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Speaker 1: I am all in, Kiss You, I am all in

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Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Everybody's Scott Patterson,

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Speaker 1: I Am all In Podcast one eleven productions, I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and I Am Joined by the Gusts Eat Up.

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Speaker 1: Half of us are Guts eat up today for big

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Speaker 1: time interviews. We're not going to tell you who they are,

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Speaker 1: but but Danielle Romo and Tara Suit here's they are,

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Speaker 1: and they are ready for a big time interview. It's

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Speaker 1: certainly they certainly didn't get ready for me. It's it's

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Speaker 1: not for me today. They're in the office right and

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Speaker 1: they are interviewing a big couple of celebrities. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to tell you who they are, but they're very

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Speaker 1: excited and it should be great. Uh great interviews, Amy Sugarman,

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Speaker 1: Uh not Gussieu wet hair straight out of the showers.

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Speaker 1: It's very Santon Gnomes. Yeah, I don't have to do

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Speaker 1: the big interview today. Uh, you're with your with your past.

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Speaker 1: What could be? I'm not big things December, guys, have

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Speaker 1: you know the I think I think the WB tour

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Speaker 1: is sold out. Yes, I talked with second You talked

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Speaker 1: to James and said he said it was sold out

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Speaker 1: for for the entire day or just he said for

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Speaker 1: Scotty peas thing. Oh man, it's so that's I love

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Speaker 1: how he always calls you Scotty p always like we

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Speaker 1: always call you Scott, but he always So. This is

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Speaker 1: James who works at the He works at Warner Brothers.

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Speaker 1: So Scott has known him for like two years. We've

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Speaker 1: we've he's the greatest guy. He's the best. He was

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Speaker 1: on the show. If you missed his episode, you gotta

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Speaker 1: go back. He's the best. Hang. He always calls you

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Speaker 1: he's the best. He's just so the best. And he's

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Speaker 1: about to get married and the whole thing. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's really great. He's just his life is just

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Speaker 1: just working out beautifully and it's it's wonderful to see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so in person is sold out, but people can still

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Speaker 1: want one person sold out, but you can still get

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Speaker 1: the stream at moment dot co Backslash. I am all

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Speaker 1: in guys. They're selling like hotcakes and and and don't

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Speaker 1: miss out because we're doing a whole kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: There's bonus features and things that I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: doing before even jump up on stage. So that's the

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Speaker 1: part that not that I'm not stoked about the interview.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome and we have amazing guests. The part that

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Speaker 1: I'm most excited for is like seeing you going all

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Speaker 1: around stars Halla. Like it's like I said to Danielle

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Speaker 1: the it up. I said to Danielle, I'm so sorry,

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Speaker 1: Like I know it's literally right before the holidays, I'm

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Speaker 1: actually super excited as the first time watch it too.

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Speaker 1: The fact that I'm excited about this, I can't even

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Speaker 1: imagine like everyone else who has seen all the seasons,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I'm thrilled, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: And you know, my buddy, you know my best friends

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Speaker 1: in the world besides you, guys are are the guys

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Speaker 1: I grew up with, right And and there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a guy called me back home. He goes what he goes,

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Speaker 1: He's like, what the heck is going on out there?

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Speaker 1: When did you become bing Crosby? What's like going on?

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Speaker 1: So she gonna go out there and do jokes and

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Speaker 1: like sing songs. I said, yeah, kinda. So he was

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Speaker 1: just he was just yeah, yeah, maybe some Gilmore jokes.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you know, nothing off color. That's that's a that's

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Speaker 1: an interesting thing because I know you've been back and

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Speaker 1: return to stars Hollow And it will be it's not

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Speaker 1: It will be a return because it will be all

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Speaker 1: stage in stars Hollow, on the steps of the high school,

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Speaker 1: commenting on. Do you you know how you're You're Scotty

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Speaker 1: gonna make me cry. Um. The stream is available for

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Speaker 1: this episode and uh um overall, um, you know this

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Speaker 1: remember Lizza's entrance, I don't remember Lizza's storyline. I don't

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Speaker 1: Or you know everybody has God. That is so true, Scott.

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Speaker 1: a situation, and she didn't see people as people. They

423
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: have no emotion, so she pass have no emotion the

424
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: way she's treating Jamie when he's been so good to her.

425
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: And also he came into town for this on birthday,

426
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: like when he said it was his birthday, I literally

427
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: was like this poor. Wasn't that a great reveal? Wasn't

428
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: like they revealed the last his last line, and it's

429
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: my birthday, and then and then and then Alexis gets

430
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: to have that reaction at the end of that Yes, right,

431
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: Alexis Rory is the one that's sweet and kind and

432
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: a nice person. Harris's crap to me. Usually it's just

433
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: about Paris, you know, like it does impact others, but

434
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: it's usually about her insecurity or her wanting to be

435
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: the best or all these things where I wouldn't. I

436
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: never until now would call her mean, even though she

437
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: did mean things in this episode. I was like, she's me.

438
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: She's intentionally mean, you know what I mean, she knows

439
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: exactly what she's doing versus before. I feel like she

440
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: was mean, but her intent wasn't to be mean. But

441
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: she's in this thing with Asher right who who? Who

442
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: was referred to as what do they call that? That

443
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: was a ming diet. But it's like, but I get

444
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: it if she's got this crush the May December. But

445
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: but it's so sad what Paris thinks that this could

446
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: work out. And you know what I'm saying, It's like

447
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: she's so out of and so insecure, and then she

448
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: she over she's overcompensating so much because she thinks she's

449
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: found this special thing and maybe she has there's a

450
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: very small chance that it could work out, and it

451
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: could be wonderful for both of them. And this is

452
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: who powers really wants to be, and this is who

453
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: she's becoming. And she's been waiting for a sixty year

454
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: old guy. Even if so, even if that's her soul mate, right,

455
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: pretend to access her soul mate, do it right, Get

456
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: treat Jamie with kindness, break up with him properly. Yeah,

457
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: Like there's it's like, even if just she really made

458
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: me madst the capacity, she doesn't think, she wants to

459
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: act like it's not her fault. That's why at the

460
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, it is because she If you

461
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: think about it, like Rory did this with Jess and

462
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: Dean right, like they have a very similar thing, but

463
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: they handled it differently totally, and so did Jess. That's

464
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: my thing is remember when Jess was Day, the girl

465
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: that worked at the cosmetics store. Yeah, he did not

466
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: like really hook up with Rory until he said I

467
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: gotta go do something right. Yeah, you're right. Yes, who

468
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: everybody says is like the town hood them literally does

469
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: it like a man above board, like and Paris is

470
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: just h and Jackie. Jackie has a fast fact for

471
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: us attend of the twelve episodes, Kenny or take it

472
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: directed work during February and November sweeps me for being

473
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: right sorry at all. Yeah, we're educating tar on this television.

474
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm kind of glad we're like hashing out

475
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: this Paris thing, just sort of like in one line

476
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: because like we've really but listen, we've all dealt with

477
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: people like this before, right, we have. I know what

478
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: I had Paris actually wasn't this. We also have had

479
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: all that, like we've all had that love or whatever

480
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: that makes us do dumb things, you know what I mean.

481
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: But this is just a different level. I don't know,

482
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: it's unforgivable, to be completely honest. Yeah, I agree with you.

483
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: I agree with you. So okay, so we're going out

484
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: of order a little bit, but we're going literally literally

485
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a word. Through the Paris storyline.

486
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: In this episode, I was very proud of Rory. It

487
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: almost was a way to get Rory to really stand

488
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: up and confront her on how messy this is. Like

489
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: Rory really calls her out, and I thought that was

490
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: like it actually made me like Rory as I hated Paris.

491
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm also curious how this is going to change the

492
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: relationship even further, you know, like because if I was Rory,

493
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: I would be like, I don't want to be friends

494
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: with this person. It's just going to like literally ruin

495
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: the people around her, like I don't want to be

496
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: involved in that tornado. Well she's apparently, and the only

497
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: way to rehabilitate this Paris character at this point is

498
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: for her to have one or several come to Jesus

499
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: moments in the future, which I'm sure are coming. I

500
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: don't know what they are, but there'll be something. There'll

501
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: be some you know, consciousness of guilt, uh down the road,

502
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: which is did you guys catch when Paris called Rory Mary? Yeah? Yeah,

503
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that it was like a callback to

504
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: Chad Michael Murray. Yeah I noticed. I was like, wow,

505
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: that was wow. Like I want to use so many

506
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: swear words. That's my problems. The only way to convey

507
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: how I feel about Paris, and I like Paris, like

508
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm a Paris fan, but in this episode, I literally

509
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: want to call her so many swear words F A,

510
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: B D. They're all found her daddy. She does a

511
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: dysfunctional her daddy has been business. She found her daddy.

512
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: So it's so it's so sick, it's so isn't so weird?

513
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: For like when you say that to me, like, it's

514
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: just I don't know why it sounds so weird? Also right,

515
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: because it's also who's the daddy? But Scott, at the

516
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: beginning of this episode, we started talking about family. Obviously,

517
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: it's called family matters, and we're talking about you know,

518
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: thinking somebody's perfect or the perfect family, or marrying your father. Well,

519
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: she personified with Paris. She's literally that's that's a better

520
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: version of her dad, who pay attentions to her, who

521
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: has the accent right, and it's Michael York's right. She

522
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: just needs therapy, tons of it. Her life coach sucks.

523
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: I know, I was gonna say, what happened to a

524
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: life coach? Not talking about that person, not that guy

525
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: sucks because she's worse than ever. It's interesting though, because

526
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: with Paris, like you know, we we've liked her up

527
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: until we've pretty much liked her up until this episode.

528
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: Scott used to hate her. But she's one of those

529
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: characters where like you come around to her. No matter

530
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: who you are, you come around to her in some episode.

531
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: And this is an episode where we all are like,

532
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: I can't stand her, but I just know it's gonna

533
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna come back around. You know. It's so interesting

534
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: because a lot of times you just want to get

535
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: rid of the character. But for her, you're like, but

536
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: she kind of makes sense in Rory's life, And keep point,

537
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: we don't want to get rid of her, right, we

538
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: want to know. We want her to get better, like

539
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: someone yeah, like someone like like want to loyalize, like

540
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: ex says, You're like, we're good, Well, we'll move on, right.

541
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Paris is one of those people who you're like, she's

542
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: bothering the crap out of me right now. But it's okay,

543
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: because give it like two more episodes and we'll like

544
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: her again. Because that's that's such a good point, because

545
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm not like going like, oh, where's you know so

546
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: and so someone replace her with Lane completely or something

547
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, or like you think about Lorelei's boyfriends, it's like,

548
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: as much as I like them, all the ones we've

549
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: had Billie Burke, and you know, you're not asking for

550
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: them to come back I don't eve him back, right, Listen,

551
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: we we forgive, We forgive Paris all of her sins

552
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: because she just brings the comedy, right, Yeah, you know,

553
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean just bringing the laughs. And you gotta hang

554
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: onto a character like that. So maybe we play through

555
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: like we just did with Paris, with the Jason Lora

556
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Lee storyline. Let's just play it through. We First of all,

557
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why he was driving like a maniac,

558
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Like that was just like weird because he was doing

559
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: twenty and Luke was doing twelve, but it was eight

560
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, first of all, it's cute

561
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: he took the morning off. It's cute they're buying furniture.

562
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: It's rude that he's on the phone all the time,

563
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: but I get it. He has to work, Like don't

564
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: we think of sort of him and their whole thing.

565
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: It's chaos, like she likes it. She likes chaos. She

566
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: likes a guy who's driven, She likes a guy who's

567
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: smart and can banter and hang with her. He's really

568
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: hanging with her. Man. He's throwing it back, He's hitting

569
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: the ball across the net faster than he's getting it.

570
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: And she loves that, you know, she really loves it. Yeah.

571
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: I think she likes putting him on his toes too,

572
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: because when they show up to the diner and he's like,

573
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: I cannot have coffee there, like, can we go somewhere else?

574
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: And she's like, all right, you know another place has

575
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: really good coffee, and she just moves the car like

576
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: two steps and she like, we're here. You didn't you

577
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: really want that scene? Though? I was disappointed they didn't

578
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: go in, come on where the scene. I wonder if

579
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: they thought about that, Like, obviously this episode is amazing,

580
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: but I wonder if like they were like, oh, that

581
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: would be a good scene, that would be yeah, yeah,

582
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe we'll have something better. His apartment

583
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: has sure grown on me though, you know the scene

584
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: where he's on the kitchen. I can't have that. Ye sorry,

585
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm back. I'm a yes, back alley basement apartment

586
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, the guest bedroom. I'm back on that

587
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 1: apartment again because I was like I had a whole

588
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: thing in my mind like, oh my god, he's on

589
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: the phone. First of all, I like his pea coat.

590
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: He had like a really cute peak coat. And then

591
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: he had a really cute white sweater. Like they're dressing him.

592
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot I like about him. They dressed him cute.

593
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: His apartment. I want to spend more time there. Right,

594
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: it's warm, exactly, and it's very cute. Like I lost

595
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: a peacoat once, I left it in a hotel cloud.

596
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: I lost a leather jacket in Mexico. It's the worst feeling, right,

597
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: You're like, you'll never find another. I left the best

598
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: pair of shoes in Italy, and I was so mad

599
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: at myself that leather jacket. So what did you make

600
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: of Emily? And that scene? Which which one? The one

601
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: where no the one where she's really talking about, oh Jason,

602
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: I hate him for all these reasons and oh my god,

603
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: you dinner. So we're jumping ahead to Frida and we're

604
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: just playing through. This was probably the best scene in

605
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: the entire It was the funniest scene in the entire

606
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't remember enjoying a scene more, you know,

607
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: because it's it's very difficult to make Lorelai that uncomfortable

608
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: and that silent. I mean, it's very difficult to do that,

609
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean, and Emily was just having such a good

610
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: time with that scene. It's ridiculous. It was just I

611
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: was just I just offended comment. It doesn't get the question.

612
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: This is really for Scott and Danielle the most, because

613
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: how do you think Emily and Richard will feel when

614
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: they find out that Laurel and Jason are together. I

615
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: think that Emily, Emily will use it as as a

616
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: weapon against yet another weapon against Laurel. I she'll she'll

617
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: interpret it in a very negative way. Let's just say that.

618
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: I think Richard will not interpreted in a negative way.

619
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: I think that they'll that creates conflict between Richard and

620
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Emily and Jason and Laurel, I and Jason and Emily

621
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: and Richard. And you know, there's all kinds of little

622
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: subcurrents going on and that um equation. So it'll be

623
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: interesting to say for sure. I agree. I think I

624
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: said this before. But Richard, I feel is going to

625
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: would be so happy that his partner is in his family.

626
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean that? Like because eventually when

627
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: Richard actually retires for good for reals, um you know,

628
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: like knowing that his business and his legacy is still

629
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: being carried on in his family in some way would

630
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: make him so happy. So I feel and and also

631
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: I do think like he gets excited, like the new

632
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: type of person, Like he feels like re energized with

633
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: with Digger on his team, you know, like doing all

634
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: the different things. Like he he loves like the different

635
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, he loves how he is now you know,

636
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: how is the word I'm trying to find, guys. But well,

637
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: he gets to be the boss. Yeah, and he's the senior,

638
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: he's the senior statesman in that relationship, and Jason gets

639
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: to do all the work and Digger gets the energy,

640
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: like he gives him energy though I feel yeah, and

641
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: so I feel like with from a richer perspective, he's

642
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: going to be like, oh okay. And I think Richard

643
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: feels like it's it's after being burned by the company.

644
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: This really is a coup for him and gives his

645
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: new business cred and he's once again on top. Yeah,

646
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: so it makes him feel he's somewhat in control and

647
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: he's like important, he's holding the pieces of his life

648
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: together through a through a guy who's dating his daughter. Exactly.

649
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: Do you think that Lorela should have just sucked it

650
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: up and told Emily there's no way she could she

651
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: how could she say anything. Oh, I thought she should have,

652
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: Like she she gave her the opportunities, you know what

653
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean before she started hysterically laughing. There was at

654
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: least like two points prior to that where she could

655
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: have been like, Okay, mom, I have to tell you something.

656
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm into this guy. She could have done it. She

657
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: was laughing like yeah, but can you imagine Emily taking

658
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: the laft to even greater heights after Laura I revealed

659
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: it to make even smaller? So we don't know. So

660
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: maybe the writers thought that's gonna make Emily appear too

661
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: cruel and Laura too small, So let's not go there

662
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: because I kind of wanted to see that too. To

663
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: too little notes before we get into the real meat

664
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: here one, what did you think when Rory told Laura

665
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: La I mean sorry, Laura La, I told Rory you know,

666
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: I really like him. He's off center and it's kind

667
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: of perfect for me, So that was sort of significant. Yeah,

668
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: question for you guys, are you concerned that there's food

669
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: in the house because we're definitely supposed to Rory noticed

670
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: it and then it comes up again. Well it makes

671
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: it makes sense because the new inn isn't up and running.

672
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: There's no income coming in, right, so they're just budgeting.

673
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: We've got money problems. I think I think they're they're significant.

674
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: She's gonna be okay. Come on, she's got Luke, she's

675
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: got Now, she's got Jason. You know there's there, there's

676
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: she's gonna be okay. I didn't. I didn't see that.

677
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: I don't really think much of it. It's not a

678
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: five alarm fire. But it is true to character that

679
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: the income isn't coming in since the fire. But I

680
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: don't see it as a significant It stood out to

681
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: me a lot on the rewatch. So this is this

682
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: is probably the third just the third time I've seen

683
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: this episode, and it really I was like, oh, oh,

684
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: I didn't take it as like a money thing. I

685
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: took it as like a oh, she's trying to be

686
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: more domestic, like she doesn't haven't she's she's she's just

687
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: running out of money. Yeah, that's yeah, you know, she's

688
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: she's going to the grocery store and because it's so

689
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: much cheaper, and the cables off because she doesn't she

690
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: canceled the channels because she doesn't want to pay that extra.

691
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't I don't worry it. That doesn't bring any

692
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: sort of fear. I mean, it's it's she's Laura La.

693
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: She'll figure it out. She's gonna figure it out, and

694
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: she's got that community supporter. She's she's gonna be fine. Okay,

695
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: So before we get to the most most, let's talk

696
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: briefly about Lane and Mrs Kim and Laura La. When

697
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: she went into Mrs Kim's and she says, she says,

698
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: she's she's fine, She's at yelled with Ror, so she's

699
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: so she's just moved out of the house. She's checked

700
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: out because Mrs Kim said get out. I feel better

701
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: in that moment, though, because I think that Mrs Kim

702
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: is trying to stay with her morals, what she believes in.

703
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: But deep down she's like, my daughter is not here,

704
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: and I'm worried about her, Like I don't. It's not

705
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: like she doesn't care, because especially the way she like

706
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: when Laura I said it, and she looked up and

707
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of smile old, you can tell like there was

708
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: an ease that like, Okay, she's good, she's with Rory,

709
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: she's at Yale, she's safe. And then she went back

710
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: to helping her customer that's interesting. I interpreted that differently.

711
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: What do you think pain? Just pure pain and pushing

712
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: the pain down and going back to her customer. I

713
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who's right between us. I

714
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: think it could be interpreted either way, because for me,

715
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: I just I think that like she had zero communication

716
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: with Lane, so just knowing that she's okay, what kind

717
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: of like totally it could be right. I don't know,

718
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: because for me it was painful. I was like, oh god,

719
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: this is experience. I mean, I felt bad no matter what.

720
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: But I just yeah, I think maybe and then Loreal

721
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: I just walked out like that was it. There wasn't

722
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: anything else in the conversation. I do find it interesting

723
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: that lore Lie is always the one to bring up

724
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: Lane first, versus like Mrs Campian like have you heard? Yeah?

725
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: But that tracks for me definitely pain, and it's like

726
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: lore Line, no, those that Mrs Kim won't do that.

727
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: So she's gonna put her out of her misery almost

728
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, f y, I this is where

729
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: Lane is. So it's almost time to really get into it.

730
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: But before we do, I just want to give Kirk

731
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: ten out of ten dude. He was a bringing it

732
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: because he brought in that first scene and all the

733
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: flirting and then I think that continued a bit and

734
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: then the lull. It's a lull like so anyway, that

735
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: was good, all right, Scott's so we meet Liz and

736
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: we have that really amazed cup like really great scene

737
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: in the apartment. He really kind of get some insight,

738
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: like she she says, oh something about your dad. I

739
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: think she even called him daddy where she hides her

740
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: pot and you're always the brother like getting rid of

741
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: it and drinking your orange juice and the whole thing.

742
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: So what did you think? I mean, you know, what

743
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: can I say? Um? You know, he's just at the

744
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: end of his rope with his sister and they obviously

745
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: are estranged and they haven't seen each other and talked

746
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: in three years. And you know he's very judgy, very

747
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: judgmental of her life. Um, you know with all the

748
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: different boyfriends and uh look, man, uh I live that.

749
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: I lived it, and it's it destroys a family, It

750
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: rips a family apart um. And I would say that's

751
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: a very uh you know. Uh. The Liz, the Liz

752
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: in this show is a is a light version that's

753
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: a very that's a very very light version of how

754
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: it can go in real life. But um, um m,

755
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: I was glad to see Luke fleshed out a little more,

756
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: a little more, he's got a family. I don't know,

757
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: I kind of I should probably recuse myself a little bit.

758
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I can talk about it, but I don't

759
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: know if it's a better show with more Luke or less.

760
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: It's like I almost feel I almost feel like, why

761
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: isn't there more Luke? Ye fan of the show, and

762
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: as somebody who's completely you know, detach from I agree

763
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: with you the experience, right, Um, he brings a lot

764
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: to this show. It's why even though we you know,

765
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: we always talk about the credits, right, for me, it's

766
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: Laura Lie Rory Luke, regardless of what the credits will

767
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: will be our were that is the show to me,

768
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: lore Lie Rory Luke. But is it as impactful if

769
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: having you know, multiple storylines happening with Luke and Luke

770
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: sort of being his sort of dramatic funny self. Um,

771
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: every single episode, does it become too much? It's hard

772
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: to say, you know, you know, that's that's what I

773
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: was thinking. I said, is this good as a as

774
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: a as a snack as you know, once let's go

775
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: out for dinner, much more than a snack, much more

776
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: than a snack. I think we could meat potatoes in

777
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: the vegeta because lucas hard to read, like you can't tell,

778
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: like he's kind of like, you know, sometimes he's crumpy.

779
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's like, you know, he loves Laurel and Rory,

780
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: but he acts like he kind of hides it. So

781
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: I think it gives him like dimension, Like it's just

782
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: kind of giving the more storylines with him, the more

783
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: we're learning about his past, why he is the way

784
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: he is. So on what I'll say is I really

785
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: like Liz. I do, and I believed Liz. Like when

786
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: Liz comes in and she's sitting there with you and

787
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: she's I'm changed, I've got this good boyfriend, I'm selling

788
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: my jewel rate the Renaissance fare blah blah blah. Here's

789
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: why I'm disappointed in Liz. Very very obnoxious move to

790
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: tell Jess that you had the car and where it was.

791
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: But that's but that's typical. That is typical. That is typical.

792
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: It was like she really won me over, and now

793
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what Liz f you because this

794
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: guy took in your kid when you couldn't, did all

795
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: these things to the point of taking the car because

796
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: it was what was best for him that a parent

797
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: would do, and she screws. So what do you think? Okay,

798
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: so what do you think Liz has been engaged in

799
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: her most of her adult life that they're not really

800
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: bringing to the four here in the show because they

801
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: probably can't. What do you think this behavior is a result?

802
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: So why is like is messy? Right? Well, I think

803
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: she's got like she's an addict. Okay, there you go. Okay,

804
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: there you go. That answers the questions and they can't

805
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: really deal with that in this show in a real way. Right,

806
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: It's not that good, right, But that's is that what

807
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: everybody else got because she has that frantic like like

808
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: personality too, you know, and you can you can never

809
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: trust an addict. They're always going to lie, they're always

810
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: going to steal, they're always going to tell you one

811
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: thing and do something else. And it's just and he

812
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: was at that point where it's like it's enough. It's

813
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: going to be more lies, it's gonna be more disappointment,

814
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be more pain, and she's here and

815
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: he knows what kind of guy he is, and he's

816
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: going to put himself out again in some way. He's

817
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: going to get disappointed again. He's got renewed. It's getting

818
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: too real. It's okay, you're it's it's yeah, because it

819
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: is real. And it's why I was so disappointed that

820
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: she called Jess to tell where the car is, because

821
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: it's exactly what you expect that person to do. Yeah,

822
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: they have that moment to like, oh, this will win

823
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: my kid back when it's like you're not being the

824
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: mom and Luke was being the parent. You know, Luke

825
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: is you know, he's heading for a moment where he's

826
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: going to have to make a decision m hm, whether

827
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: he's going to continue to have her in his life

828
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: at all in any capacity. And it's like, you know,

829
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: she's the character where you do come to the decision

830
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: in the future, you know. And it's a hard lesson

831
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: to learn, and it's a horrible, hard lesson for everybody

832
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: listening out there. If you if you're experiencing this in

833
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: your family and you're frustrated, Um, don't hate yourself for

834
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: cutting people out. Don't do it to yourself. Don't hate

835
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: yourself because you survived and because you got away from it.

836
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: Because all of the effort that you can expend and

837
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: place yourself in danger, and the money and the time

838
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: and the care and um to get away from it

839
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: can be the answer and it can save your life.

840
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Because some people just don't want to be helped. They

841
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: don't want to be saved. They want somebody to attempt

842
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: to do it, because for them, that's a version of

843
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: love and they want to feel it, but they're never

844
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: going to change. And to those people in the audience

845
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: who have successfully gotten their siblings or friends through it

846
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: and survived it and they've transformed that person, good for you,

847
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, good for you, um, I was. I don't

848
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: know how you did it, um, but good for you.

849
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: The lucky ones, you know, the lucky one. I think

850
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: the rare. I think that's more rare. Do you do

851
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: you think so? I do? I think it's really hard.

852
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: I think I think we'll see what happens with Liz

853
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: if we're taking it to the Gilmore Girls. It's like

854
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: Liz's move was telling like here's your brother, You're you're

855
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: you're wanting to like bond with him, and then you

856
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: call your kid, who you have no relationship with and

857
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: who you basically abandon, and you kiss up to him

858
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: by telling him where the car is, and create you

859
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: wreak havoc with that decision. So I guess, then, what

860
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: do you think of Jess and Luke's interaction. I think

861
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: Luke is just getting to the point where he's done.

862
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: It's like, he's no, he's got Nicole, now, Okay, He's trying, man,

863
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: you know he's he's the feeling pangs of guilt about this,

864
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: and now all these feelings are coming up because you know,

865
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: she shows up and then Jess shows up again. It's like, man,

866
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't need this. You know, these people are too

867
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: old to deal with on this level. And what what

868
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: is Jess justice nineteen? Now's I would have a little

869
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: more compassion for for him, but the tough love thing

870
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: he needs because he's has his behavior. I mean, he

871
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: learned that behavior from his mother. So Luke is screwed

872
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: whoever he turns to, because he's going to do the

873
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: same thing that Liz has always done to him because

874
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: he just learned it watching his mother. Yeah, and you

875
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: can't get away from it. You cannot get away from it.

876
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: And that's the sad reality of it. And so I

877
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: think Luke is is waking up to the fact that

878
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: he cannot have a life and he will never be

879
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: happy or whatever his his version of happy is or

880
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: content or peaceful if these two people are anywhere near

881
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: his life, and the guilt that he has to struggle

882
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: with to get to that point because he's done everything

883
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: he can, and he does still go into father mode

884
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: because one of his top concerns is Rory, don't go

885
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: near right. That makes me like want to cry stay

886
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: away from her. Yes, m hmmm, she made it out.

887
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: She did it, she made it out over it got right? Yeah,

888
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: Because then I have a question for everyone because I

889
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: like totally hear everything you're saying. But then there's also

890
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: that scene at the at the end where Luke is like,

891
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: you know where the key is, you can stay in

892
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: my apartment. So what's what's that about that guy? He's

893
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: that's who he is, Like he just turned back at

894
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he still has a heart

895
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: for him for Liz. Guys, He's not going to turn

896
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: his back on these people. He cannot do it, even

897
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: though he knows for his own well being. He should.

898
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: He cannot do it. You know why he's still involved

899
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: because the big betrayal hasn't come yet. There is there

900
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: are levels of betrayal. Okay, it hasn't happened to Luke yet,

901
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: and regarding Jess, not even close. There's a lot more

902
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: runway there for that relationship to happen to take off.

903
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: But if the big betrayal comes, I mean that you

904
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: just yeah, I gotta turn my back on your kind

905
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: of thing that hasn't happened yet, not even clothes, that's right. Yeah,

906
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: what do you think of two things? I guess Rory

907
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: and lore Ly seeing Jess and that sort of situation,

908
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: and then lore Ly and Luke, which to me was

909
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: the most beautiful scene. I loved that scene of lower

910
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: lyon Luke and the diner talking about Jess being back.

911
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: Uh you guys comment I need to take a knee. Yeah, no, no,

912
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: take take any I mean, I just thought it was

913
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: all really well done. Laura, Lee and Luke have such

914
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: a connection and I just thought that scene really, Um,

915
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: do you get this? Do you get the sense that

916
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: when Jason and Laura are together that they're great together?

917
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: But it's not what she needs. Do you get the

918
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: sense that, yeah, that's right, when Luke and morea liar together,

919
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: that's what she needs. Yeah, just deeper. It's so much deeper.

920
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: It's deeper on every level. Oh that's that's a very

921
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: good point. M hm got because that's the sense I got,

922
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: because it's it's such a such a contrast, and it's

923
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: right there for you. They're queuing it up for you

924
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: right there in that episode totally. I think the interesting

925
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: part about Rory seeing Jess though, is I think she

926
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: moved on, but us as an audience, we moved on

927
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: from her. Thinking about Jess, I was just like, oh

928
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: my god, Like he's back like you. It's like the

929
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: way her memories are coming back of him, it's ours

930
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: is too. And I'm like, but she's doing great. She's

931
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: going to Yale, like she's moved out. Like you just

932
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: think of her life now and you're like, all those

933
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: memories are now flooding back. Do you think she's over him?

934
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: And do you think you're over him? Do you know what?

935
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us will ever like us

936
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: as an audience, and Rory will ever get over him.

937
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: It's one of those people in her life. Where she's

938
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: always going to go back to, doesn't matter if they're

939
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: in the right place, right time, whatever. It is, Like

940
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna she's gonna love him forever. I love that

941
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: you bring that up. I'm kind of over him, so

942
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: I think, sorry, here's I'm not over him because I

943
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: stumbled on after this episode and I don't know if

944
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: my phone somehow just knows what I'm thinking. A TikTok

945
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: from the year in the Live Yes, yeh of the window?

946
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: Is that what you're Oh gosh, no, we want to

947
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: tell anymore. Anyone listening just knows, you know. You know,

948
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm not over him. She's not over him, He's not

949
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: over her. Maybe she's the most over him of any

950
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: of us. It's like that with Dean as well, though

951
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: I think that there's it's different stages of her life,

952
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: like she's still gonna love Dean for Dean, you know,

953
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: like it's not over, but she doesn't have to screw

954
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: up her own life to love these guys. You know

955
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: how we always ask who's the daddy? You know what

956
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: I want to add? You know what I want to

957
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: add to that, who's her soul mate? Oh that's a

958
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: good one. I think it's I actually think it's Jess

959
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: think so too. But but but here's the thing. You

960
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: look at Jess where he is now, and the way

961
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: Luke interacts with him now, and the way Rory just

962
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: walked away, and she did show some caring a little bit, right,

963
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: but she had to walk away. Her walking away says

964
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: more about how much she's still attracted to him, because

965
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: she needed to get away because if she stayed, oh right,

966
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: get me away from this, because my life is on

967
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: a good track. And that you look at Jess where

968
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: he is now, that's there's still tremendous potential in him, right,

969
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: because he's kind of extraordinary, and he's really smart, and

970
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: he's really intuitive, and he's a soulful guy. He's just

971
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, he's just filled with anger and rage from

972
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: his horrible upbringing. So's he's years away from being a

973
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: viable sort of partner in life. He's years away, and

974
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 1: nobody wants to deal with it at this point. More

975
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Lea who this guy hurt her kid? Right, her number

976
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: one biggest part in her life. This guy hurt her kid.

977
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: She goes into Luke's one of the reasons being you

978
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: can't leave your kid out there. He's it's too cold,

979
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: you got you know what I mean? So like she, oh,

980
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: this's gonna make me cry. At their core, they are parents,

981
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: Luke and Lorelei. They are parents, and so at the

982
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: end of the day, they are both the parents. Luke

983
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: with his fierce protection of Rory, Oh my god, oh

984
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: I can't. It makes me just well up, and Luke

985
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: with his you're the parents, and she with all his

986
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: her like this guy sucks, but I'm going to go

987
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: be the parent with with with my co parents. But

988
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: he talked into it. He feels more protective of as

989
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: well it should if Rory then he ever did if well,

990
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: not ever. But at this point of of Jess, no

991
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: know for obvious reasons, but he just it just doesn't

992
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: know how to hand I guess Luke just doesn't know

993
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: how to deal with Jess. He just it's how do

994
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: you deal with somebody like, yeah, well that's the questions

995
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: anyone anyone, right, I mean, how do you deal with that?

996
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that for the first seventeen years

997
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: nobody can fix that. And yeah, because I think a

998
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: part of it is it's like, obviously Jess has done

999
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: some not cool things to Luke. But for the most part,

1000
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: it's he hasn't been taught to do otherwise right. He

1001
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: hasn't been He hasn't he hasn't been taught a code,

1002
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a cur he's not his His word

1003
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You're so right because look at what Liz did.

1004
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: Liz comes back and she preaches all this stuff to Luke.

1005
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm better, I have a nice boyfriend, I'm working, I'm

1006
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: you get the vibe like I'm clean. You get all that,

1007
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: even though she doesn't say that. And then she ships

1008
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: on Luke by calling Jess just to earn some brownie

1009
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: points with the kids she screwed over for his whole

1010
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: life to give him the car when I'm like, that

1011
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: was literally the last thing she should have done. So

1012
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: that's the ship. And Luke asked the question, why are

1013
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: you here? So why was she there? Why was she there?

1014
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: I actually think she was there for the dumb reunion,

1015
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: just too like on the nose with that no you

1016
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: might be right now that you say it again, I'm like, oh, yeah,

1017
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: I forgot. She's cast, Luke. This is what addics do.

1018
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: They cast their siblings are the ones that seem to

1019
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: care in roles of saviors that they know will never

1020
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: complete the task. Yet they still go back. They still

1021
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: go back, They still go back, keep trying to save

1022
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: keep trying to save me. And they don't understand the

1023
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: impact they and the one if they do understand the

1024
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: the impact they have on people, on their siblings, coming

1025
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: back to them again and again and again, and you know,

1026
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: scrambling their brains and ruining their their moments and their lives.

1027
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: Um and they pull up the savior, which is exactly

1028
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: what she did, dang one thing. And then she goes

1029
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: behind his back like you took the car, which also

1030
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: was like the big revelation even though we knew you

1031
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: took the car, that you outwardly say I took the car.

1032
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: You did it for all the right reasons, and another

1033
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: adult parent should have your back. Lorelai would have completely

1034
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: been aligned with you. Right, These people are frightening, and

1035
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: Liz and Jess are frightening at this point, especially Liz,

1036
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: especially away from me. Just go away, no contact. You're scary.

1037
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look how ungrateful Jess is. I mean, Luke

1038
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: kept the car in his garage, locked away nice and safely.

1039
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: And then I give Jess a little more rope because

1040
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: he's a kid. Sure, sure, you have to. You have to.

1041
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: He's still a teen, right, he's nineteen, you have to.

1042
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: Is he nineteen at this point? Yeah, he's probably pushing twenty.

1043
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: But I mean, and he's just a freshman. And so

1044
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, and he's a smart kid. He's just

1045
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: a little troubled. That's very he's very true. I mean,

1046
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: to have that as a mother, I mean, now you

1047
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: see why Jesse is so screwed up because Liz shut up.

1048
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: And that's what that is. My mother is an addict,

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01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: and she's not well, and she's gonna she's gonna fall again.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna she's going to Yeah, well, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: what addicts do. They can't help it. You know, it's

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01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: it's it's an awful, awful, awful disease. It's awful. And also,

1053
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: let's not forget last season, we had the whole storyline

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Speaker 1: with his dad, I mean, and his dad just dumped

1055
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: him in California, you know what I mean. Like, so

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Speaker 1: this kid is just is is really just lost. You know,

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01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: he has he has no heart, he has no he

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01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: wanted to put his heart with Rory. And yeah, but

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: he bailed her. He didn't. He wanted it, but he

1060
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: couldn't write you because he didn't think enough of himself.

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Speaker 1: Stay goodbye, Remember think enough of himself. He didn't. He

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Speaker 1: it was an act of nobility for him to withdraw

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01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: and to sabotage subconscious right, it's almost a subconscious act

1064
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: of nobility, you guys. The silent phone call. When he

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: calls her and she says, if this is you, he

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01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: won't even talk at least, right, at least he had

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01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: that consciousness that he was going to be a bad

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: influence owner. So he stayed silent. He stayed away. He

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01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: only came. He came back because he had no place

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: to go. He came back to Luke because he had

1071
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: no place to go. He's looking for a second chance.

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01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: This is like a third chance, by the one third chance.

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01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: It's heavy, it's heavy, right, gosh, I guess we'll switch

1074
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: it to some to end on just trying to get

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01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: a simple little life together. You know, he's just got

1076
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,959
Speaker 1: his diner and he's you know, the poor guy man. Yeah,

1077
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going to Nichols, which obviously weren't even

1078
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: on in Coal. I mean, you did go to Nicals,

1079
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: but you weren't originally going to Nicals, but you went

1080
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: to Nicoles because you want to give him. You know,

1081
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: he won't come sleep there if you're in there. I mean,

1082
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: it's all just are taking caretaking, caretaking? Am I the

1083
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: only one that like weirdly wanted Luke to like for

1084
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: the scene for to be like pulling up to Loria

1085
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: Lie's house, Like I don't know why I want it,

1086
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: it's so bad, Like, no, Scott, you don't think so.

1087
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: I wanted him to pull up to their house and

1088
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: Lord lies like, come here, you can sleep on the couch.

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I think at most maybe maybe Okay,

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: on a good day, maybe he drives by the house

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01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: and glances a little bit. I don't know, but that's

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01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: that's still a little much, you know. I don't know

1093
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: about that. That's that's who has our favorite lines. That's

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: our favorite lines. And I kept forgetting to tell you

1095
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: guys this, but I do love the line when she's

1096
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: talking about Asher and Paris says like ten times not

1097
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: counting my chickens, count my chick what about you guys?

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01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: My chicken favorite lines? Yeah, um uh, every there was

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: there was again there's like too many to even everything.

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: In the scene with Kirk and Lorela, you know, I

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01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: I think when when Tanna got asked Tana got asked

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Speaker 1: out on the date or Paris says that she's in

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01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: the bathroom throwing up, and then there's another one because

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01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take liberties here, you know, because this this

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01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: episode ripped me apart. Pillar to post, it just ripped

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01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: me apart. U. Um. The the Rory line when she's

1107
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: referring to uh Asher as the Ming dynasty, what was

1108
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: it made a June romance? And then she's now you're

1109
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: made of Ming Dynasty romances? Six oh no, and Rory

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01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: another one, don't don't ever tell me about his body? Yeah,

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01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: just don't ever tell talk about his body again? Minds

1112
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: a Luke line and like Luke interna the best and

1113
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: um and Luca's double dipping you dog. That was amazing.

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01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's good. I agree. Yeah. I love

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01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 1: the banswer outside of Mrs Kim's when they both both

1116
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: Jason and Laura Lee were on the phone with Emily

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: and then she's like, is that the same man that

1118
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: was her ass? Is he harrassing you? That was funny.

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01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: I love that banswer. I thought Lauren was great in

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01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: this episode. The comedic skills just shining through in the

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: pink coat away lines and all the She's just great,

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01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: didn't she? And she just great? So what are we

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Speaker 1: going to give it one to ten? The cars? I

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: was thinking, just as cars gelopes? What is that? Maybe?

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01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I also definitely noticed that you, Scott drank the

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: orange juice. You didn't guzzle it and it wasn't a

1127
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: super tall glass, but you definitely drank that orange juice.

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01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean that's the thing that drives me crazy.

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: People don't eat and they don't drink when they get something.

1130
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: And I do think there was some fake driving, but

1131
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: I think I was thirsty, thirsty, thirsty. I thought Mercedes

1132
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: driving reel, truck driving reel, some of the Jeep driving reel.

1133
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: Some of the jeep driving so fake. Yeah, there was

1134
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot of fake like looking on the road and

1135
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: fake dr I'm like, you don't have to turn your

1136
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: stealing only I've ever in my life even done that.

1137
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: What else could we do? Should give it one to

1138
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: ten dukes? Well? So wait, let me ask this question.

1139
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: There's one question, what did we think of Jason when

1140
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: he really fought not to go into the diner? Did

1141
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: he Because he did that, he knew he was tailgating you.

1142
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: I understand why it's not Shakespeare, But what did we

1143
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: think of the character fighting so hard not to go in?

1144
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: Did he go down a couple of notches in your book? Like,

1145
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: just just man up and go down the whole time.

1146
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: That's kind of right, that's kind of his deal, right?

1147
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: How did you say he's a lovable jerk? So you're like,

1148
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: when he's a jerk, you're like you're down, and then

1149
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: you're like you're lovable. But it's also it's not like

1150
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,879
Speaker 1: the car is going inside the diner to get the coffee,

1151
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, it's like, you know

1152
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: who's tailgating you? You know the car that's tailgating you.

1153
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: We missed out, We missed out on an hysterical scene.

1154
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: We just get out of the car and go to

1155
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: do a funny scene. Ten dukes for me, ten dukes,

1156
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: ten dukes for you to sorr how many dukes? Give

1157
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: it a nine? You're gonna give it nine dukes? And

1158
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: what why is one duke missing? In your opinion? Just

1159
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: I just don't give out you're a nine room us.

1160
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: It's a great episode. Does it have something to do

1161
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: with who you're interviewing today and that she can't give attention?

1162
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 1: She's not giving because al right, um, I mean I

1163
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: I gotta say, uh, this is twenty dukes for me.

1164
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,959
Speaker 1: This is a home run. I just love this episode.

1165
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, even though it ripped me apart, it hit

1166
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: too close to home and did answer the question are

1167
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: you a lot like your character? Well, in this instance,

1168
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, M. But that's what we want. Yeah,

1169
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: we want that. That's what we want. There's a good

1170
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: number of people don't really I want you to be anything.

1171
01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: But look it's fine with me. You know. Yeah, you're

1172
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna you'll you'll see them all. Well, that's gonna be fun.

1173
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that. Um. Yeah, Well this

1174
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: was a nice, light breezy episode, wasn't fashion. They do

1175
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: figure out a way to have funny moments, and you

1176
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: know what, that's why I love it. M. Yeah, this

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01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: was God. This was just filled with such drama, um

1178
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: and such hilarity. Really wonderful episode. Kenny Artega hats off,

1179
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: who wrote the episode. By the way, Oh yeah, good question.

1180
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: Let's let's get some fun facts I'm going to Amy. Oh,

1181
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: Dan Palladino, Danny wrote it. Yeah, so you knew it

1182
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: had to be one of them. Just runs amuck, doesn't it,

1183
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: and he charges accordingly. So anyway, Um, that's gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: it up, folks. Thank you, thank you, thank you so

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: much for downloading. Best fans on the planet. Thank you

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01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: for sharing all your Yeah, well, we appreciate it. We're

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Speaker 1: not editing one. You're you're gonna fight me on that.

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01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight Sometimes I cave and I go okay

1189
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: on this one. Absolutely not, absolutely not. But we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have We're gonna have a real hoe down humdinger of

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Speaker 1: a hoe down on the twenty two of Warner Brothers

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Speaker 1: from the set of Gilmore Girls. Are I Am All

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Speaker 1: In podcast? Live in front of a live audience w

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Speaker 1: B tour audience? How many people? Apparently I sold out crowd?

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Speaker 1: What is that? What's the number there? How many people

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Speaker 1: are gonna be there? I think it's quite a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's quite a lot. Oh, it's going to be I

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Speaker 1: think it has four numbers in it, four numbers people

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Speaker 1: back there. I don't know, I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's sort of I think it's over. It's it's a lot,

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Speaker 1: it's a large area. Maybe it's high threes, but boy, wow,

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna be rollicking. We need to call James Pettit.

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Speaker 1: Am I gonna I better have a microphone? Am I

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Speaker 1: gonna have a microphone? Is gonna be professional voice? Oh

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Speaker 1: my god? Anyway, go to moment dot co backslash. I

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Speaker 1: am all in for the streaming, which will you can get?

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Speaker 1: don't miss it. We're gonna do a lot of things

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Speaker 1: stream it too. Um. But it's gonna be so much

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Speaker 1: fun and I can't wait to see everybody, um and

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Speaker 1: uses Tara sued as her nickname. I got it. I

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Speaker 1: got a couple of emails and but it's like she

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Speaker 1: she guys, I'm just gonna have Scott's back. Everything Tara

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Speaker 1: said to Scott call me Tara suit It's literally my

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Speaker 1: Instagram handle has been like that. Yeah, it's like. I

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Speaker 1: also would like to point out that we got a

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Speaker 1: little dragged last week for thinking that Laura that Luke

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Speaker 1: had already been to Emily and Richard's house. I know,

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Speaker 1: we Scott went out of order in his brain, but

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Speaker 1: cut the guys some slack, I know, but even I thought.

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Speaker 1: Even I thought when Richard had a heart attack that

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Speaker 1: he went to the house. But it was only the hospital,

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Speaker 1: so I knew it, and I just didn't want to

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Speaker 1: be I got another bone to pick with last week's episode,

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Speaker 1: you know, and crack Staff reminded me of this, you know.

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Speaker 1: And one thing that drives a crack Staff crazy is

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Speaker 1: that I didn't mention this. Yes, my brain was all

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01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: out of order that week. Why didn't I mention this?

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01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: Where does Laura, like, you know, off given me crap

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01:17:54,640 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: when she doesn't tell me about Jason when mm hmmm

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01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: we agree? Come on, very good point. Anyway, no one's

1236
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: listening to us anymore because said, yeah, yeah, they already

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Speaker 1: tuned out. Anyway. Will we do crack Staff in pop culture?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's do crack Staff in pop culture? Do

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