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Speaker 2: The World's of Vigeon podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: It's France and Brazil. Brazil the Patriots home markets. I

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Speaker 4: assume that we're going to root for Brazil tonight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, no.

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Speaker 5: I kind of like the guys on France better.

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Speaker 4: So when we when we had writing, you know, we

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Speaker 2: Since I'm a lefty, I'd get led.

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Speaker 5: For you guys like you with your left hand, like

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Speaker 5: like you're always bumping people on the table.

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Speaker 2: Because it's not an idiot.

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Speaker 6: It's an inordinate amount of time thinking about quicksand like

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Speaker 6: what do I do?

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't just it. It was on my mind,

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Speaker 2: like quick, it's a it's a tough way to go.

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Speaker 5: Where are you going to find?

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Speaker 7: Oh point?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I was like sometimes when I was a kid, I

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Speaker 4: As a kid, though, Evan, didn't you fantasize about NFL

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Speaker 4: films breaking into your house and getting out of.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jilette Stadium, rainy day here in Foxborough.

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Speaker 4: It's Paul, it's Deuce, it's me. Evan will be by

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Speaker 4: in a bit. So we're talking. I don't know whatever

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Speaker 4: it is NFL Owners meetings, and Rabel talked this morning.

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Speaker 4: He spoke to us yesterday. Actually you saw that on

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Speaker 4: social media.

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Speaker 2: So we've got some things to talk about, and you know,

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Speaker 2: whatever else is on our mind. I know, Paul, you

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Speaker 2: were on the morning radio this morning.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I even I was able to get out

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Speaker 9: of bed this morning. Yeah, you know after that beat

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Speaker 3: Uh No, they were.

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Speaker 9: They saw the interview that the three of us did

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Speaker 9: with Mike, and they thought, you know, might I wasn't

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the plan. That was kind of traffic related.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this morning, and I was like, listen, I'm not

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Speaker 3: Why don't I just stop on my way and I'll

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Speaker 3: just come in the studio. That's why I did it

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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 9: But you know, they they had some fun with you know,

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Speaker 9: Mike sort of tell them, well, if you if you

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Speaker 9: let me talk Paul.

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Speaker 3: You know, I stopped talking, you know, that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 9: But they they would curious about the uh, the interaction

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna stick with Max, and you.

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Speaker 9: Know what Vrabel's reaction to that was, and you know,

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Speaker 9: just I think they would kind of give it.

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Speaker 9: Really, you know, I think it was it was stemming from,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So did you did you represent well?

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Speaker 9: I mean I hope so. But always, I always that's

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Speaker 4: Well, sometimes you come out of something like that, you say,

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Speaker 2: You had to say it, I did. It was Hardy.

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Speaker 3: Now, he's still in great shape.

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Speaker 9: But you know, if he's a coach in ten years,

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Speaker 3: And he's fifty. Yeah, he's a man, he's fifty.

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Speaker 4: Uh So there was that, and you know we did

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Speaker 9: So so I did think his answer about replacing digs

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Speaker 10: Doesn't did you say that last year?

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Speaker 6: I feel like last year coming in he talked about

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Speaker 9: I also found I think you're right, Freddy, that part

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Speaker 9: And that's I thought that was interesting too, Like the

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Speaker 2: And I wonder how long you can keep that up

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Speaker 3: But that was his answer to Mike's question about Buyer yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, r that was I mean, that was what I

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Speaker 6: which he's been consistent with. I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 6: a philosophy of his coaching that acknowledging them as people.

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Speaker 10: Before well, that was a thing.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have a team full of people I like

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Speaker 10: That are right.

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Speaker 6: But he's also said I don't know if it works

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Speaker 2: That he is having that locker room that absorbs them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, ideally you get a little bit

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Speaker 9: Like I would rather have Larry Fitzgerald, who by all

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Speaker 3: I'd rather have Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 9: But you know that's obviously I'm not suggesting I'd rather have,

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Speaker 9: you know, a guy who's doesn't belong in the NFL

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Speaker 6: That's special when you find a player who can do both,

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Speaker 6: and those are the players you should invest to keep

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Speaker 2: The other thing he was asked about was the eighteen

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Speaker 2: that's what they're working towards. No big surprise. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Would have, International game for everybody, International game for everybody.

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Speaker 4: good answer, good neutral answer. I'll coach as many games

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Speaker 2: Right, right, both sides meaning the owners and.

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Speaker 9: The owners and the players, right, you know, So you

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Speaker 9: all of these things. The players have to agree to it,

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Speaker 9: and they will because there'll be money involved for them.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but I'm

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Speaker 9: But I thought it was interesting that Mike threw that

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Speaker 9: I don't want to hear everybody complain.

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Speaker 6: And you guys agreed to it, right, you know, I

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Speaker 6: just wondered the mechanics of it with adding essentially two

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Speaker 6: more weeks then with a bye week in another game.

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Speaker 6: Do they back it up and start earlier? Do they

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Speaker 6: are we now into like the third week of February?

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Speaker 1: Like right?

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Speaker 9: So that was one of the questions they asked me

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Speaker 9: this morning. Yeah, you know about that, you know, a change.

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Speaker 9: And I have always been under the impression that since

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Speaker 9: they moved off of Labor Day weekend, they don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Play on Labor Day weekend. Now maybe maybe the.

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Speaker 9: Numbers ninety eight maybe eight, Yeah, no, it was.

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Speaker 2: Recent relatively speaking.

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Speaker 9: I want to say the first game of the year,

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Speaker 9: one of the years that Carol was the coach, either

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Speaker 9: ninety seven or ninety eight, was on August thirty first.

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Speaker 2: And why did they do it? What was the reasoning?

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Speaker 9: They felt like the ratings weren't great for Labor Day weekend.

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Speaker 9: Now maybe they feel like, now it's such a machine,

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Speaker 9: it doesn't matter. The ratings will not be affected by

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Speaker 9: Yeah, because you're adding two weeks to the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's not a reason.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, phones consuming content.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, So I don't think that's a reason not

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Speaker 10: I'm sure Labor Day would be packed with a couple

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Speaker 2: It's a whole celebration.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, I remember those eight Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 10: Right then what happened?

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Speaker 4: The government basically said, we've got the Olympics coming, You're

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Speaker 10: Yeah. I don't know, it's it.

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Speaker 6: I kind of am in favor of, like everything we're

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I like what we're talking about.

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Speaker 6: right Like, there's gonna be more of those kind of

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Speaker 10: That's, you know, just one thing.

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Speaker 6: I think that's and a little bit of a negative

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Speaker 9: It doesn't matter what we think. But I'm one thousand

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Speaker 4: I think you know the old Mark Cuban thing, you know, pigs, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yep, right now we're moving from the pig to the hog.

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Speaker 6: I don't mean, I mean the NFL has just been

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 9: This is you know again, you know from our conversation

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Speaker 3: Like it's just gonna get worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 9: It's like, the point I made this morning is, in

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Speaker 6: They hate them. They all hate them. You just get

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine how this didn't go further than that

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Speaker 10: Well it was.

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Speaker 6: And with these condensed schedules. Now, I mean, if you know,

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Speaker 10: Do you start it? You know, like, is there any week.

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Speaker 2: They'll get to eighteen, then they'll move back to sixteen

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Speaker 3: See, I think that would be interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think that would be a yeah.

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Speaker 9: Like to make up for the lost revenue, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 3: The revenue, right. Yeah, I think I think fred is on.

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Speaker 4: Jacket and Arbor says the same thing I was kind

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Speaker 4: Labor Day weekend. That would give all the teams a

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's not like other sports aren't

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Speaker 9: And the college thing, it's become huge, Yeah, because they

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Speaker 3: It's the whole weekend.

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Speaker 9: There's there's a game on Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.

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Speaker 9: This year it was Bill Bill played on the Monday night, right.

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Speaker 6: Just the more games you add, the less value each

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Speaker 10: Got to the Super Bowl. But so what if battle

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Speaker 9: I understand injuries are part of the game and injuries

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Speaker 9: more games you play, the more short weeks you play

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Speaker 9: on and I know they say, they claim the data

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 4: And you know, because they're going to have to increase rosters,

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Speaker 2: You know there's a balance.

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Speaker 9: April twentieth next year.

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Speaker 3: It's not till the twenty seventh.

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Speaker 9: three years off their career in the back.

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Speaker 4: End, right, Jeff and Virginia with the second bye week?

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Speaker 4: Can they do the schedule so the Thursday games have

446
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Speaker 4: the teams with a bye week before it, so no

447
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Speaker 4: one has a short week. Doesn't that fix the Thursday

448
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Speaker 4: game issue?

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Speaker 6: I don't know how you manage the tonnage of it.

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Speaker 6: It sounds good in theory. I just there's math involved.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's people smarter than me,

452
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Speaker 9: you know, can do this. But can you give everybody

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Speaker 9: you buy before the Thursday game? I don't know if

454
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Speaker 9: that works. And then what happens when you do it twice?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was my understanding that there would be no math.

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Speaker 4: Correct, So that was a topic coming out of the

457
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Speaker 4: owners meeting. Also, I'm looking on on the screen on

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Speaker 4: an NFL network now the coaches photo, which is amazing

459
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Speaker 4: how every year it gets sected and analyzed.

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Speaker 2: There were two coaches that weren't in the photos.

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Speaker 3: This is worse than the schedule release.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean McVay.

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Speaker 4: Evans guy wasn't in the photo. He's becoming a little

464
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Speaker 4: bit like Belichick in terms of I don't need to do.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to go to the combine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And the other guy was was it Mokin the new

469
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Speaker 2: cad Monk Monkin from I don't think he wasn't in

470
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Speaker 2: it as well, but Rabel was front and center with

471
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Speaker 2: his legs. Man's taking a lot of space up.

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Speaker 9: Man spreading as they say, Yeah, he's definitely the that's

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Speaker 9: the Robert.

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Speaker 3: They're showing Robert.

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Speaker 10: Salah back in Thank God.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, yeah, Fred, everything about all the

477
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Speaker 9: things that you don't like. It's one of those hoodies,

478
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Speaker 9: the shirt hood It's like one of those sweatshirt hoodies

479
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Speaker 9: that you don't like that you make fun of every

480
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Speaker 9: time I wear it, right right, Uh, you know, he's

481
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Speaker 9: a big guy.

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Speaker 3: He's got huge shoulders, but he you know, he loves

483
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Speaker 3: to let you know that.

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Speaker 10: Surets.

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Speaker 3: He is a big guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like it. I like how the hardballs are

487
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Speaker 2: sitting next to each other, the two brothers brothers.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, my buddy Kyle Brant breaking it all down like you.

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Speaker 4: But they really, they really analyze this this photo every year.

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Speaker 9: Hilarity ensues right here. Yeah, you're right, it gets this

491
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Speaker 9: treatment that it's so fun.

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Speaker 3: Like I always look at it.

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Speaker 9: I was like, half of them look like such doors,

494
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Speaker 9: you know, and ben Jonson looks like you might kill somebody, right,

495
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Speaker 9: That's that's his comportment, that he's got the crazy eyes, right, Yeah,

496
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Speaker 9: you're right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So all right, what else Hard Knocks? Well, yes,

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Speaker 4: good one announced finally Patriots will be.

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Speaker 9: I finally got the push that meaning I have a

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Speaker 9: year and a half to find something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, part of the training cam Hard Knocks in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, which is this the first time they announced

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Speaker 2: it a year in advance?

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Speaker 10: So why do you think they did? Teams?

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Speaker 6: I don't know the two Super Bowl teams too, but

506
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Speaker 6: I don't think either one of them have been on

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Speaker 6: it in the twenty five year history.

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Speaker 2: Well they haven't. But what I'm saying is they announced

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Speaker 2: a year in advance.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I don't ever remember that, but I'm wondering if

511
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Speaker 9: they've run out of teams that haven't done it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they've begin to adjust the rule why,

513
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Speaker 6: like you know, the head coaching rule. But now it's

514
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Speaker 6: doesn't matter if you didn't make the playoffs or not.

515
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Speaker 6: If you made the playoffs, you can you can still

516
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Speaker 6: be on. So no, it's interesting. I mean I used

517
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Speaker 6: to love it. I've kind of fallen out. It became

518
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Speaker 6: kind of formulaic. I like some of the other versions

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Speaker 6: that they've done in season. I thought those were interesting

520
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Speaker 6: seeing again, I love watching coaches talk to their teams.

521
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Speaker 6: But we'll see, I mean, this is now two really

522
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Speaker 6: good teams, so it'll be interesting to see how they maybe

523
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Speaker 6: adjust the format or you know, is this, to your point, Fred,

524
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Speaker 6: something they're trying to do to build some excitement. You know,

525
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Speaker 6: we're saying, how does that affect fortune Foxborough? It has

526
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Speaker 6: now become like a competing you know, property.

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Speaker 4: The good News battle now two years to prepare for that,

528
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Speaker 4: but it does affect like what we would do with that.

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Speaker 4: I'll like, either we would collaborate in we would you know,

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Speaker 4: do some kinds of things and let the NFL Films

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Speaker 4: do others or you know, I don't know.

532
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Speaker 2: We have to think about it.

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Speaker 3: Take the year off.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I just wonder what the

535
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Speaker 9: reaction would have been if it were Belichick. You know,

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Speaker 9: I think, you know, Mike was asked about to tell

537
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Speaker 9: you He's like, I can't wait, Yeah, I can't wait.

538
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Speaker 9: And I kind of believe them, you know, I think

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Speaker 9: I think he's looking forward to it as an opportunity.

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Speaker 6: What is the hand like when they were here in

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Speaker 6: on nine shooting Bill for that was, you know, inside

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Speaker 6: the NFL or football life.

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Speaker 10: Do they have a heavy footprint here.

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Speaker 6: I don't really even know they're there. Yeah, yeah, because

545
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Speaker 6: they're really smart. I mean they obviously now with every team,

546
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Speaker 6: And if that's.

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Speaker 9: From the media perspective, I'm sure the players knew constantly

548
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Speaker 9: when they were in like the meeting rooms and stuff.

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Speaker 9: There's cameras there that aren't usually there, right for us,

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Speaker 9: you know, like in the media work room during a

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Speaker 9: Belichick press conference, I don't think we're recognizing, Oh, that

552
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Speaker 9: camera's not usually here, that's an NFL Films camera, you

553
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Speaker 9: know what I mean. So for us yeah, it's going

554
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Speaker 9: to be like I don't think I even knew that

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Speaker 9: was coming out until it came out.

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Speaker 10: Really like for our video we started it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean we always hear from our video

558
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Speaker 6: team about the battles that they have to fight on

559
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Speaker 6: the sidelines, and you know, sometimes they're moved or you know,

560
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Speaker 6: they can't stay in here or whatever. And now it

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Speaker 6: seems like you'll have a few different camera crews, you know,

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Speaker 6: following people around.

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Speaker 10: But I'm just interested to see behind the scenes and.

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Speaker 6: It'll be I'm just interesting how it compares to Forge,

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Speaker 6: you know, and you know, hey, you gave Fortune Foxborough

566
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Speaker 6: this access, so we get this, or you gave you know,

567
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Speaker 6: behind the scenes.

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Speaker 10: With NFL they got in there. Can we get in

569
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Speaker 10: the locker room? You know, it seems like it's going

570
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Speaker 10: to be a little bit of a negotiation in terms

571
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Speaker 10: of that.

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Speaker 4: Access is not an issue anymore, you know, as long

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Speaker 4: as we do it respectfully and you know, aren't really

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Speaker 4: revealing anything that would hurt the team, They give us

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Speaker 4: whatever we want.

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Speaker 6: I have a question, do you think the new training

577
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Speaker 6: facility has anything to do with it?

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Speaker 2: I think, well, I don't know, maybe maybe ownership here

579
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Speaker 2: asked for it perhaps, you know, like, can we get

580
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Speaker 2: the next open spot? Yeah, because we're proud of this thing.

581
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Speaker 2: And let's face.

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Speaker 4: It, with you just sign New Balance to a big deal.

583
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Speaker 4: It doesn't hurt them too to be able to smile.

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Speaker 4: I have never even thought of.

585
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Speaker 2: That, to be able to say to New Balance, you're

586
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Speaker 2: going to be on hard docks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean in that place is going to be

588
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Speaker 6: front center, right, I mean all the slow march shots outside,

589
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Speaker 6: all the.

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Speaker 10: You know, a lot of sign and sign.

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Speaker 2: Evan's here, Hello, how you doing.

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Speaker 3: We'll be up to writing up.

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Speaker 5: Rabel's press conference. Thirty minutes of audio to sift through. So, uh,

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Speaker 5: those are long. Those are long.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it a little. But what what's stuck

596
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Speaker 2: out for you?

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Speaker 5: I would say the two biggest takeaways for me were

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Speaker 5: I read went back and listened and read the quote again.

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Speaker 5: He basically said that Gonzales has earned a contract extension.

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Speaker 5: So that's how he feels about it. You know, I

601
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Speaker 5: think there's often on his shows, you know, people question

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Speaker 5: whether or not you know, like them, right, and I

603
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Speaker 5: mean every time he talks about him pretty positively. But

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Speaker 5: this time he said, you know, we want to draft

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Speaker 5: good players, and we want to identify the players we

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Speaker 5: want to keep in Christians one of them, you know.

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Speaker 5: So it came out and said it. The other thought

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Speaker 5: thing I thought was interesting something that Deuce has been

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Speaker 5: all over, which is, you know, Drake May's growth in

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Speaker 5: year three. And he pointed to the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 5: and you know, seeing things better pre snap and communicating

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Speaker 5: and you know, not only just conveying the play and

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Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff, but he specifically pointed to,

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Speaker 5: you know, seeing things and adjusting protections and all that

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Speaker 5: kind of stuff. And to me, that was the Super

616
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Speaker 5: Bowl just hanging over all the coaches heads of like

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Speaker 5: he wasn't ready, you know, he wasn't ready for question

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Speaker 5: him ready. It's a good question. We were actually chatting

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Speaker 5: about it almost. I feel like it's a daily, ongoing

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Speaker 5: conversation that Mike and I have. But I think that

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Speaker 5: it's a combination of you know, him obviously rowing and

622
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Speaker 5: seeing more looks and seeing more defenses and that whole thing.

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Speaker 5: But I also think that there's a happy medium of

624
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Speaker 5: this is a playmaker at the position that can move

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Speaker 5: around and can create plays on his own outside of

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Speaker 5: the structure of the offense so that he doesn't necessarily

627
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Speaker 5: need to be Tom Brady and get everybody pointed in

628
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Speaker 5: the right direction one hundred percent of the time. So

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Speaker 5: how can they kind of find a balance there? Of Well,

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Speaker 5: if he doesn't see that the Nichols blitzing and Devin

631
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Speaker 5: Witherspoon is coming Scott free to the quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 5: how can we let him kind of go into his

633
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Speaker 5: own playmaking mode and then make something happen if he

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Speaker 5: has to do that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's got me thinking.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we've had conversations this offseason and there are

637
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Speaker 6: plenty of people in football who feel like if Drake

638
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Speaker 6: may progresses and they do a good job protecting him,

639
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Speaker 6: everything else will work itself out. But it's made me

640
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Speaker 6: wondering about your mental ceiling. And obviously Tom Brady's mental

641
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Speaker 6: ceiling was incredible. He could retain information. I mean, he

642
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Speaker 6: always says my superpower was my mind. Before snap, I

643
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 6: looked at Kansas City's defense, I knew exactly what they were.

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Speaker 10: I knew them better than they did.

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Speaker 6: You can study a lot, but can you retain that

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Speaker 6: information and can you execute it when the game is

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Speaker 6: on the line. And I think that's that might be

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Speaker 6: what the question with Drake is. Last year, I kind

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Speaker 6: of like simplified it and saying, is Drake clutch? That

650
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Speaker 6: was kind of my little pocket question for the year,

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Speaker 6: which I don't really know we figure that out or

652
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Speaker 6: if there is a definitive answer for that, but I

653
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Speaker 6: think this might be the question of, you know, what

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Speaker 6: is his ceiling in terms of his mental capacity in

655
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Speaker 6: every situation to get the team in the right play

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Speaker 6: and execute.

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Speaker 10: And I mean Tevin's point he has got.

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Speaker 5: Some is that totally fairy dude, not only because of

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Speaker 5: his age, but also just because there's only one Tom

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Speaker 5: Brady And I think the only guy that I saw

661
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Speaker 5: that was really in command of an offense like that

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Speaker 5: was Peyton Manning. So now we're comparing him to two

663
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Speaker 5: of the greatest to ever do it. So I guess

664
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Speaker 5: it really fair to sit there and say that, you know,

665
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 5: he should be able to do all these things, and

666
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Speaker 5: then I would just say, you know, this is a

667
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 5: lot of Last year was kind of like the you know,

668
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: he got a bachelor's degree and Josh McDaniel's is right now,

669
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 5: he's in year two of the offense. We're hoping that

670
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: he's going to be getting his PhD soon. Yeah, and

671
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 5: that I don't think we put enough credence into that

672
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 5: because they were winning so much last year. Just how

673
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 5: new all of this was for him, especially driving the

674
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Speaker 5: bus at the line of scrimmage, which wasn't something that

675
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 5: he did his rookie year.

676
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Speaker 6: Well, it's just a Fred's point. It's like, how do

677
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 6: you get him there? How do you help them be

678
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 6: able to do that because a lot.

679
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Speaker 2: Of it is repetition, reps, reps, reps, reps, reps.

680
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Speaker 6: And I do believe that, you know, coaching can help

681
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 6: boost him along that road. Now it's going to be

682
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Speaker 6: him to achieve his ceiling. And I get Brady for

683
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Speaker 6: credit for reaching the ceiling he did, but I think

684
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 6: Josh is going to be able to give him all

685
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 6: the answers to the test. It's just can he remember

686
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 6: them and execute them within the pressure.

687
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Speaker 10: Of the game situation.

688
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Speaker 6: So, you know, it made me feel a little bit

689
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Speaker 6: better of just like not this desperate, like, you know,

690
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Speaker 6: just a reminder that you've got a really talented kid

691
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 6: and how far he can go in this system is

692
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Speaker 6: still unknown.

693
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Speaker 4: When I think of quarterbacks reading defenses and seeing what's

694
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Speaker 4: about to happen. I always related to those master chess people.

695
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: They've played so many games of chess that when they

696
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 4: see the board and they see the current configuration, they

697
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: know the moves that have to be made based on

698
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: the situation of the board because they've done it so

699
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: many times.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've seen that before. And that's where you

701
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: have to get to as a quarterback is having seen

702
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Speaker 2: every defense that they could possibly be. There can never

703
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: be more than eleven guys in the field, So you

704
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: start there and then you know, you work from backwards

705
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: from there. And you know, Brady, like he said, I

706
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: had the answers to the test because, like you said,

707
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: he retained it. Everything that he saw he remembered. So

708
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Speaker 2: I've seen that before. I've seen that tell before.

709
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Speaker 6: Maybe this is a bad example, but maybe you'll get

710
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 6: us to where I'm trying to get us to where

711
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 6: Like Jared Goff, I feel like with him, like maybe

712
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: some of the execution under pressure and key moments has

713
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: never maybe quite been there. And again, maybe this is

714
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 6: a bad example, but I'm trying to think of players

715
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 6: who have been in the league for a while who

716
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 6: have had success but haven't quite been able to get

717
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 6: to that level of like I feel like this guy's

718
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 6: a master and no matter what you throw at him,

719
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Speaker 6: he's going to have an answer for it.

720
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Speaker 10: I mean, am I making any sense with that? Do

721
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Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying?

722
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Speaker 6: Like, I just don't think it's a guarantee that just

723
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 6: because Drake plays one hundred and one hundred and fifty

724
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 6: games that all of a sudden, oh he's got it now,

725
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 6: he's seen everything.

726
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: That's sort of wind up putting Like that's a high

727
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 5: bar to set. And I think the different offenses do

728
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: it differently, where this offense tries to get into the

729
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: best play possible before the ball is even snapped, whereas

730
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Speaker 5: other offense, especially the West Coast guys like they are

731
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Speaker 5: all post snap reactions. Like when if the team brings

732
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Speaker 5: a blitz, they have like a hot route that's predetermined

733
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Speaker 5: within the concept that the quarterbacks they supposed to throw.

734
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Speaker 2: The ball to.

735
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 5: And that is is just it doesn't they don't move protections,

736
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 5: they don't set mics, they don't do all that kind

737
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Speaker 5: of craft. They just snap the ball.

738
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Speaker 4: In that offense, you said, if there's a blitz, then

739
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: there's a hot route. Yeah, how does the receiver because

740
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: they're focused on the guy in front of them there,

741
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: they know that a blitz just.

742
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Speaker 5: Have their job is decided. Just their job is to

743
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 5: see it too. How you're just by aware hot route.

744
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: Because if you're lined up over here and you're into

745
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Speaker 4: your route and then the blitz comes from the far

746
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: corner or a safety, yeah, how do you see that?

747
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 11: Well?

748
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 5: Sometimes too, like it's you know, there's sight adjustments and

749
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: then there's like pure hot routes, and like sometimes with

750
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Speaker 5: hot routes, like it might just be as short underneath

751
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: route and that's just the design of the play, right,

752
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 5: is that this guy is just running a slant or

753
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 5: he's running a flat or something like that. That's just

754
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 5: that's his natural route within the progression. And the quarterback's

755
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 5: job is to see the blitz coming and then go

756
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Speaker 5: there first, right instead of skipping the natural agression of

757
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 5: it because he's hot, he's got it. You know, too

758
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 5: many guys coming, more blitzers than you have blockers, right,

759
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Speaker 5: so that then you become hot.

760
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Speaker 1: You know.

761
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: Then there's sight adjustments, which is like what the Patriots

762
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 5: used to do in the heyday, where like everybody sees

763
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: it coming and then they actually are are adjusting their

764
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 5: route on the fly to change the route into a

765
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Speaker 5: route that can beat the blitz. So that's why Julian

766
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 5: Edelman used to joke that this is calculus, like, well,

767
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 5: this is a it's a complicated part of the offense.

768
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Speaker 5: And so I just wonder where they can kind of

769
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Speaker 5: not dumb it down but just recognize the talent, because

770
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Speaker 5: you know, Frabel did add that it's not physical, like

771
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 5: they have no physical you know, areas of growth for

772
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Speaker 5: Drake may like they're like physically, this kid is unbelievably talented.

773
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Speaker 5: It's all gonna be between the ears and whether he

774
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Speaker 5: can get there.

775
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Speaker 2: Yep, good stuff. Yeah, what else? And Evan before move on,

776
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: did you guys touch on?

777
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Speaker 5: I mean, he's basically screaming for a tight end, Like

778
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna you know, pound the table as

779
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: we like to say, you know, in the draft rooms

780
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 5: for that. So he said that he would he would

781
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 5: take all of them if he could. So I think

782
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 5: a tight end in the draft is as big of

783
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: a lock you know. When is obviously the question that

784
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 5: we can debate for the next three weeks. But uh,

785
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 5: a tight end I think we can all see is coming.

786
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: It's just a matter of when in the draft it's

787
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 5: coming and who.

788
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 10: Okay, what do you Maybe they might be a couple.

789
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule it.

790
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 9: I've seen a couple of marks with with multiple tight ends.

791
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 9: Someone had a seven round mark that had two.

792
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: Tight ends going at the Patriots.

793
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 5: I have a tough time with with double dipping at

794
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 5: that position though, because you signed Hill and you signed Gilliam.

795
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 5: Who Gilliam's kind of going to be in that in

796
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 5: that numbers crunch at tight end, So you know, are

797
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 5: you going to carry four tight ends plus a fullbacks?

798
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 5: Now you're taking up five roster spots on tight end

799
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 5: slash back. It feels like a little bit like a overkill. Yeah.

800
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: What did you think about the Hard Knocks announcement two years.

801
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, I think that's interesting. I think there's

802
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: not a lot of interest for Hard Knocks compared to

803
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 5: what it used to be.

804
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: Like Duce said earlier, is formulaic Now yeah.

805
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not a lot of interest. I think that.

806
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 5: I believe it was JJ Watt who ruined Hard.

807
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: Knocks man flipping the tire over, well, no, he I

808
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 6: think it was him.

809
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 5: He claimed that he got the cadence and the snap

810
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 5: count of an opponent that they were playing from watching

811
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 5: episodes of Hard Knocks. And ever since that point, the

812
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 5: football has been stripped out of Hard Knocks and they

813
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: they've dumbed down the football elements of it because I

814
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 5: think it was JJ Watt claimed that he had the

815
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 5: answers to the test because he studied their Hard Knocks practices,

816
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 5: and then we had it was at the Super Bowl

817
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 5: when we talked to Brian Hoyer and he said that

818
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: he did the same thing for the Rams in twenty eighteen,

819
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: that he watched their like behind the scenes stuff of

820
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: their practices and was able to like pick up on

821
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 5: things that he was able to use on the scout

822
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 5: team trying to mimic Jared Goff. So I think a

823
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 5: lot of that has stripped down Hard Knocks, you know,

824
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 5: to you know, more bare bones. And then also the

825
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 5: Giants doing the off season one and it being a

826
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 5: disaster hurt the brand a lot too.

827
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 6: I like that one that was, I mean, it was

828
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 6: great in hindsight watching them make all kinds of decisions.

829
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, so I think that you know, they're trying

830
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: to by putting the two you know, representatives in the

831
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 5: Super Bowl back to back years and two hot teams,

832
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 5: two hot coaches. They're trying to drum.

833
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: Upfully, we'll still be hot in two years, right, Oh

834
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: definitely about Yeah, good, we're back. Remember we're still back,

835
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: Joel and san Antonio.

836
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

837
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Speaker 4: With the announcement of hard knocks, I can envision HBO

838
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 4: and talks with Bill and him just giving them the

839
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: blank stare and saying, get the f out of here.

840
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: Could this be a bit of a recruiting move by Rabel?

841
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Well he's not the one that made the decision, but

842
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: can you use hard knocks as a recruiting tool in

843
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: the NFL? I mean, players care that I'm going to

844
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: be on a team that's on hard knocks.

845
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 6: I mean as much as forge could have been, you know,

846
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: seeing the kyle of coach talk to the team a

847
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 6: little bit, I think.

848
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 9: I was gonna you could maybe sell yourself. You know,

849
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 9: you're gonna have cameras on you and how you come across.

850
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 9: Maybe it could be attractive or not attractive to prospective

851
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 9: free agents. But yeah, I mean the fact that you're

852
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 9: on hard knocks, I don't think.

853
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 6: And are the players really watching that, like while they're

854
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 6: in training camp of their own you know, I don't know.

855
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 2: I don't know.

856
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: Rick and Riverside, Rhode Island. I enjoy watching Rabel interact

857
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: with the media. He had times can pull a Belichick,

858
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: but in a way that doesn't have him come across

859
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: as a jerk. Is it correctly say Boston Sports media

860
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: enjoys working with Rabel?

861
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think so far.

862
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 11: Yeah.

863
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

864
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 6: It's even when he busts you, chops, this feels like

865
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 6: it's in good fun. It never feels like he's staring,

866
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 6: like steering lasers through you, and you're not awkward silence.

867
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 5: But he just yesterday, he does a really he's a

868
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 5: good coach to work with because he gives you just

869
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 5: enough that you feel like you get something out of

870
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 5: the press conferences. Even I know it's such an insignificant

871
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 5: thing to most people, but like Friday is giving the

872
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 5: injury report before the injury report calls out, Right, that's

873
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: two hours on a Friday afternoon that you save during

874
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 5: the season, you know, compared to waiting all the way

875
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: till four o'clock. I know that that's like, you know,

876
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: first world problems, but those little things like do kind

877
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 5: of go a long way, Like not having all that stuff,

878
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: like these state secrets, like who are they going to

879
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 5: call up on Saturday? You know, sometimes when they knew

880
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 5: ahead of time, he would tell you, you know, and not

881
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Speaker 5: make you wait all the way till four o'clock Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 5: So those types of things and then the answers, I think,

883
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Speaker 5: are you know, a little bit more fansive then then

884
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Speaker 5: Bill obviously, but I think that there's also like, you know,

885
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Speaker 5: he's so good at connecting with people. I mean, we

886
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Speaker 5: see that with the players, which is obviously the most

887
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Speaker 5: important thing, but even like it's starting to happen a

888
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Speaker 5: little bit with the media. You know, he knows everybody's name.

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Speaker 5: He is guy a little bit of something with almost

890
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Speaker 5: every single person. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's you mentioned today.

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00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: You know, I know we have our spats, but I

893
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: appreciate what you're doing. I know why you're doing it,

894
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 4: and big part of bringing the fans back, you know.

895
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Speaker 9: So that seems like a small thing, and to Evan's point,

896
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Speaker 9: like you think it's not all that important but for

897
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 9: the for the guys that are covering it. For him

898
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 9: to he basically recognized that, Okay, we're going to get

899
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Speaker 9: into a little bit of a stretch here of national

900
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Speaker 9: type questions and I'm going to cut those off, Yeah,

901
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Speaker 9: because I want to make sure I take care of

902
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Speaker 9: these local guys who have done it for us all

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Speaker 9: year long, and they're all the way out here in Arizona.

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Speaker 9: And that was what that transition was. There was there

905
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Speaker 9: was a couple. There was a Chicago based guy, I

906
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Speaker 9: assume asked about brad Berry and it looked like there

907
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Speaker 9: was going to be another one, and he was like,

908
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Speaker 9: he looked at Mike Rees and said, Mike, what do

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Speaker 9: you got.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure I take care of those,

911
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Speaker 3: take care of you local guys.

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Speaker 9: And that's when he went into that whole explanation of Hollybool.

913
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Speaker 9: He appreciates the coverage, self awareness. Yeah, you know, that

914
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Speaker 9: goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff.

916
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Speaker 5: We'll see what happens, you know, when they're not fourteen

917
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Speaker 5: and three, right, I know, but I think right now

918
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Speaker 2: All right, joining us now as head coach Mike Rabel

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Speaker 2: taking some time from the owners meeting. Coach, thanks for joining.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. How are you guys?

972
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Speaker 2: Oh, we're doing good. You know, we're back here doing

973
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Speaker 2: our work. You know, someone's got to do the work

974
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Speaker 2: while you're away.

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Speaker 1: It looks like you guys are working hard.

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Speaker 2: So just to start off, you're at the owner's meeting.

977
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Speaker 2: What's the owners meeting like for a head coach?

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00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 15: Well, I think that there's a lot of Uh, there's

979
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 15: different committees that sometimes you're a part of and sometimes

980
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 15: that you're not. And then if you're if you're not

981
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 15: part of those committees, then it's more informative.

982
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: There's dialogue based on you know.

983
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 15: Football ops, the proposals, refereeing, you know, every aspect that

984
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 15: really touches our game outside of the the ex's and

985
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Speaker 15: o's with our players. Yeah, there's a lot of informative meetings.

986
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Speaker 15: There's a lot of dialogue. There's a lot of conversations

987
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 15: and then ultimately, you know, the owners will vote on

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Speaker 15: some of the rule proposals and and by law proposals.

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Speaker 9: Yep, you seem like you're pretty active in some of

990
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 9: those committees, Mike, which ones you are part of?

991
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Speaker 15: Well, you know been having asked have been on a

992
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Speaker 15: competition committee during my time at Tennessee. That's recently something

993
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Speaker 15: that I've been invited back on. So I think that

994
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Speaker 15: that's been fun and been something that I've always enjoyed,

995
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Speaker 15: is to try to, you know, do what's best for

996
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Speaker 15: the game, do what's best for our fans, and find

997
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Speaker 15: ways to make the game better and safer for our players.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Mike, just.

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Speaker 10: Want to ask you about the free agency period.

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Speaker 6: You guys signed a number of players, but none you're

1001
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 6: probably more familiar with than Kevin Byerd coming off a

1002
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 6: great season with Chicago. I know you spoke about him

1003
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Speaker 6: last year, but just when you got to Tennessee, when.

1004
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 10: Did you realize how special of a player that he is?

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Speaker 15: Well, I think I realized how special of a person, right,

1006
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 15: you talk about the player, but you know, really just

1007
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 15: from an early time there, realized what kind of special

1008
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Speaker 15: person he was as a leader and as a teammate,

1009
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Speaker 15: the way that he engaged the building and the entire staff,

1010
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 15: the coaching staff, and his teammates. So you know, we

1011
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 15: started there and realized how solid of a person he

1012
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 15: was and father and husband, and then you know, he's

1013
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 15: an excellent player and like we talked about last year,

1014
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 15: just been consistent in his attitude, his performance, his availability.

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Speaker 1: So those are a.

1016
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Speaker 15: Lot of things that are positive and that he's going

1017
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Speaker 15: to hopefully bring to our football team.

1018
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Speaker 9: Mike, I wanted to ask you about Romeo Dobbs sticking

1019
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 9: with the free agents that Mike started with, just you know,

1020
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Speaker 9: some of the traits that he brings in some of

1021
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Speaker 9: the things that maybe you hope will translate, you know,

1022
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Speaker 9: into what Josh wants to do and for Drake May

1023
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Speaker 9: and the rest of the offense.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think first of all, he loves football. I mean,

1025
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Speaker 15: he is a football junkie. He loved talking football.

1026
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 15: From the time that that we were able to sign

1028
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Speaker 15: him and have him come into the building, you know,

1029
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Speaker 15: he didn't really want to see.

1030
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Speaker 1: Any of the you know, the new building.

1031
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Speaker 15: Yeah, he wanted to see some of that, but he

1032
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Speaker 15: really wanted to meet with with Josh and and talk

1033
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Speaker 15: and meet with Todd Downing and meet with me about

1034
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Speaker 15: football and all the things that he wants to do

1035
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Speaker 15: to continue need to improve. You know, his skill set

1036
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Speaker 15: and his impact on the team. But you know, as

1037
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Speaker 15: a player that's been really consistent over the first four

1038
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Speaker 15: years of his career. Showed up in the red zone,

1039
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Speaker 15: he showed up on third down. He's got a good

1040
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Speaker 15: savvy to him. You know, runs the full route tree

1041
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 15: is good. You know, I would say play strength at

1042
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Speaker 15: the point of you know, the catch point, the contested

1043
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 15: catches that are always critical there.

1044
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Speaker 1: And you know, continues to build.

1045
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Speaker 15: Savvy and he's playing a lot of football and he's

1046
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Speaker 15: you know, relatively young still.

1047
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Speaker 2: So now with free agency kicked off, now we're closing

1048
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Speaker 2: in on the draft a little more than three weeks away.

1049
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: What's your cadence of communication with Elliott and Ryan right now?

1050
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: Are you talking multiple times during the day? Do you

1051
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: have check in meetings? How does that work?

1052
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 15: Well, we've all kind of been going separate ways here

1053
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 15: a little bit with the pro days and they go out.

1054
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Speaker 15: You know, obviously our scouting department is out of pain.

1055
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 15: Everybody will be back in really looking forward to you

1056
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Speaker 15: know next week when when those draft beatings start and

1057
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 15: what that process looks like with our coaching staff, you know,

1058
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Speaker 15: going through the players that they were asked to look at,

1059
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Speaker 15: to evaluate, to zoom interview and to meet with to

1060
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Speaker 15: see where that lies the connection and you know, their

1061
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 15: willingness to want to add that particular player or his

1062
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Speaker 15: personality to our football team.

1063
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Speaker 1: And then then we'll quickly.

1064
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Speaker 15: Transition onto you know, me and Stretch and Elliott and

1065
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Speaker 15: Ryan and the entire personnel department and kind of work

1066
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Speaker 15: through each player position by position.

1067
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Speaker 2: Paul wants to know if you took some ib and

1068
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: then still hosting some of the thirty visits. Sorry, Paull

1069
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: wants to know if you took some ibuprofen after your

1070
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Speaker 2: visit to Arizona State.

1071
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Speaker 15: I mean, I usually wake up the same every day,

1072
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Speaker 15: pretty sore, So Mike, I didn't want to ask you

1073
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Speaker 15: about that.

1074
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Speaker 1: I feel the same way. You know.

1075
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Speaker 9: You know that that video got a lot of play

1076
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 9: over the weekend with with Max. I think is I'm

1077
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Speaker 9: going to try this as he Hennachu and I think

1078
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Speaker 9: I'm getting that at.

1079
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Speaker 3: Least close Max. I'm gonna go with Max.

1080
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 9: You did the same thing, you know a lot of

1081
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 9: that stuff with Will and I just I'm curious to.

1082
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: Know I've done that. Guys, I've done that.

1083
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 9: I've gone to and that's why I wanted to ask you,

1084
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 9: what do you what do you think you you learned

1085
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 9: from that? You know, just why why do you feel

1086
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 9: like that's important to sort of, you know, get a

1087
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 9: little bit of more of a physical workout.

1088
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Speaker 15: You've done talking Paul, Can I have finish?

1089
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Speaker 3: You can wipe the smirkuffee face. That's okay.

1090
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 15: I enjoyed doing it because I think when I do

1091
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 15: it with our players, I have an understanding an idea

1092
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 15: of what each guy at the position, you know, looks like,

1093
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 15: feels like, you know, reacts to to certain movements, especially

1094
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 15: at the line of scrimmage. You know, guys some guys

1095
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 15: have heavy hands, some guys you know, their contact balance,

1096
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Speaker 15: their core strength, you know, all those things at the

1097
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 15: at the line of scrimmage that are critical, you know,

1098
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 15: and so those are things that we always try to do.

1099
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 15: I would say that some positions are better for that

1100
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 15: than others. Yeah, and yeah, you know, normally when I

1101
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 15: go out to the Pro Day, I try to be engaged,

1102
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 15: in active and try to learn something from all the

1103
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 15: players that are there in the different positions.

1104
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: So when you come back, you probably haven't had time

1105
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: to spend any time yet, but you're going to be

1106
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 4: in your new building.

1107
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: Are you looking forward to that?

1108
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

1109
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 15: It's amazing, you know what I mean. And I want

1110
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 15: to thank Robert and Jonathan obviously for their committed success

1111
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 15: and providing us with the resources that we need to

1112
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 15: to continue to grow, to continue to win, and continue

1113
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 15: to enhance what we do. With that being said, though,

1114
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 15: there's so many people that that helped us get in there.

1115
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: You know, the building group.

1116
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 15: And you know Woodie and Dan and Gail and obviously

1117
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 15: Stretch and Jonathan working closely together with them. You know,

1118
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 15: just the operations and everything that we were able to

1119
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 15: do to get over there in a short amount of time.

1120
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 15: This vision became real uh in less than a year,

1121
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 15: and then be able to get in there on Monday.

1122
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 15: You know, it's just exciting to see everything that's new

1123
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 15: and that when the players come back, how excited they're

1124
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 15: going to be. There's been a few that have come

1125
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 15: in that we've been able to see and they're certainly

1126
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 15: amazed at what it's like.

1127
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, have a great.

1128
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 15: Environment to train our players, to meet with our players,

1129
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 15: to UH to build strong connections with our players.

1130
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: What do you think is the the biggest or the

1131
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: coolest thing about it, so that you've.

1132
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: Seen, man the coolest.

1133
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 15: I mean, I certainly think that the ability to you know,

1134
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 15: walk out of a meeting room and be in a

1135
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 15: mobile classroom, to be able to extend the meeting, you know,

1136
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 15: out to a large screen format to stimulate the players,

1137
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 15: and that capacity is something that that's you know, a

1138
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 15: lot of teams have I just don't know if they

1139
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 15: have it outside the media. When we walk out of

1140
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 15: door and you know there are players are.

1141
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: You know, just the.

1142
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 15: Overall the size and the ease and the comfort and

1143
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 15: the way that it flows from the training room, the

1144
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 15: locker room to the training room, the weight room, the

1145
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 15: way that they all those tie together. There's no real

1146
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 15: gimmicks over there. It's it's just a lot of functionality.

1147
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 16: It's it's a great space. Yeah, you guys all set

1148
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 16: ye look forward to having you guys over. I know

1149
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 16: we want to have you guys over and have everybody

1150
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 16: see but you know, just tell everybody to remain patient.

1151
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 16: You know, there's a lot of punch lists and again,

1152
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 16: if it affects the players, we want to fix it first.

1153
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: If it you know, well we're going to get to everything.

1154
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 15: We have a long time before training camp, and so

1155
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 15: there's gonna be little things to fix, and sometimes there's

1156
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 15: going to be some larger items, but everybody's gonna stay

1157
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 15: patient and and help us get through this.

1158
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 2: All right, Well, coach, go ahead.

1159
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 9: I had one one last thing real quick. I know

1160
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 9: I talk a lot, and what have you got? I

1161
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 9: just saw Nick Sirianna mentioned, Uh, Nick Sirianni, you had

1162
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 9: mentioned the possibility of you guys getting together this summer,

1163
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 9: you know, for joint practices. Is that something you are

1164
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 9: ready to talk about or is that still.

1165
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 15: Something that we would we we want to continue to

1166
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 15: look at and uh, you know, obviously the league has

1167
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 15: to do their part and allow us to uh to

1168
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 15: be scheduled, you know, at that point in time. But

1169
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 15: I think that uh, you know, that's a football team

1170
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 15: that's had a lot of proven success and would would

1171
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 15: love the opportunity to practice against them and watch them work.

1172
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: Yep.

1173
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: All right, well, coach, we really appreciate you taking the time.

1174
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: We'll see and when you get back.

1175
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 3: And now, great moments in.

1176
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 8: History, Well, it used to be a gold long time ago,

1177
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 8: the golden goal. Yeah, but then they decided, like the

1178
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 8: NFL to make it fair. Let both teams have possession,

1179
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 8: the equivalent thereof letting.

1180
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean everybody has the same chance to

1181
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: get the ball, right.

1182
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 8: No, no, you didn't let me finish, I said, the equivalent

1183
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 8: of letting both teams have possession in the in the soccer.

1184
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: World, it's not.

1185
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: I don't think it's not the equivalent.

1186
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 10: Okay, it isn't.

1187
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm glad Fred agrees with me, because that's the non soccer.

1188
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense to me.

1189
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 8: A golden goal was the equivalent of the old days

1190
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 8: in the NFL, where the first team that scored one.

1191
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: Right, But football is a different sport. It's not.

1192
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 9: Well, only one team had the ball, only one team

1193
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 9: could score.

1194
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 2: It's not a soccer.

1195
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 9: Both teams have the same chance.

1196
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 8: To have the ball, right, You can possess the ball, yes,

1197
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 8: but they wanted to just let there be a you know,

1198
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 8: a set amount of time for them to.

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Speaker 1: Play the X.

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00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: Well, they don't do that in the NFL.

1201
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1202
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 3: They don't play a set amount of time.

1203
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 8: No, but they do have a ten minute you know,

1204
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 8: if you don't after ten minutes, call it a tie, right,

1205
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 8: But it does in this case. You couldn't have a

1206
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 8: tie because it's a playoff.

1207
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: It's not the same, arig. I do know what you're

1208
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: trying to say.

1209
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 9: But in soccer, no matter what equivalent what it was

1210
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 9: just saying, I want to already arguing now I want

1211
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 9: to look up the same in equivalents.

1212
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 8: But anyway, anyway, what if I walked into Revolution unfiltered

1213
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 8: where that's another great moment?

1214
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1215
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Speaker 2: official furniture store of the New with Patriots.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, can I give a quick shout out to

1225
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 6: our co host Meghan O'Brien which finally she qualified for

1226
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 6: the US Olympic Trials in a marathon.

1227
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Speaker 10: Really, she did. I just saw on social media. I

1228
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 10: think it was last night.

1229
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: What not doing?

1230
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 10: It was?

1231
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 6: She wrote a whole story on Instagram. Go check it out.

1232
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 6: I think it's Meg Moran.

1233
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 10: WW.

1234
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 6: But said, you know, I thought my career was kind

1235
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 6: of over and then she just had a baby, and

1236
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 6: so she's made the qualify.

1237
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 3: I mean, she knows she's going to get a chance

1238
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: to run great yeah one time.

1239
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 5: Los Angeles, LA Olympics.

1240
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it would be yeah, yeah, So good

1241
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 6: luck Meghan. I mean I remember when I first started

1242
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 6: here and she was just kind of starting to run

1243
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 6: marathons and she'd like, I think wanted to break four.

1244
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 5: Hours, four hours as usually.

1245
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: I think that was what it was.

1246
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 10: Yeah, she's run a few, So congratulates Meghan.

1247
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty cool, especially.

1248
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 10: Had a baby like six months ago.

1249
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: But she's going to be going up against like the

1250
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: elite athlete.

1251
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 9: I mean she looks like, what it is you need

1252
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 9: to qualify for a time, right, you know, and so

1253
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 9: like you either have that time or you don't.

1254
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 3: And that's no joke. Yeah, if she qualified, then.

1255
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 6: Nobody looks more conscious running in my whole life than her.

1256
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 10: Like she just glides and like.

1257
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 6: I mean, she's got those like long legs, and it's

1258
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 6: like like when I'm running, it's like every step is

1259
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 6: like yeah, she just like floating over there.

1260
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 5: Have you ever seen Julia run college? These are college

1261
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 5: runers right second. It's like this is unfair to fast slow.

1262
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 9: Down because it's very similar to what Jude describe Julia

1263
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 9: the same thing.

1264
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: She just like glides yes, impressed runners, Yeah me all right?

1265
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: Eight five five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast

1266
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com. Is the email address. Uh, let's

1267
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: go to the phones. We'll start with who will.

1268
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: We start with? So many to choose from, Anthony and Seattle.

1269
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 4: What's up, Anthony?

1270
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 17: Hey, what's up people? How you guys doing?

1271
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: Okay?

1272
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 17: Hey, so sorry to know a little off today's topic,

1273
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 17: but something I've been thinking about it once you got

1274
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 17: to ponder on. So I haven't talked to you guys

1275
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 17: since since they cut digs, And you know, I gotta say, man,

1276
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 17: the player we got versus the reputation that he had

1277
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 17: coming in, I just I was blown away, and yeah,

1278
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 17: thirty nine years old, I'm maybe a little embarrassed to

1279
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 17: admit how attached I became to him and how truly

1280
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 17: heartbroken I was by his release, but I'm saying that

1281
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 17: to say this, so you know, now that they ripped

1282
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 17: the band aid off with him, I'm not really overly

1283
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 17: attached really to anybody in that room now, and so

1284
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 17: I'm okay if they kind of want to start turning

1285
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 17: over turning over that wide receiver room. And you know,

1286
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 17: you guys have talked about some of the wide receiver prospects,

1287
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 17: you know, Concepcion, so it's unlikely that he drops or

1288
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 17: you know, Evan got me excited about Brazil or you know,

1289
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 17: the one guy I don't know his dama on top

1290
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 17: of the head, but I'm sure Evan knows what I'm

1291
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 17: talking about, the guy who had the injury, but he

1292
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 17: would have probably been the top receiver in the drought,

1293
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 17: you know that guy. So you know, and then you

1294
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 17: guys kind of talks a little bit about you know,

1295
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 17: there being some of the duplicate skill sets in that

1296
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 17: room or something like that, or kind of Evan and

1297
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 17: Alex they talked about kind of splitting the difference if

1298
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 17: you got the aj Brown trade in the worst. But

1299
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 17: I feel like those you know, wrapped in a young

1300
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 17: talented receiver. If the opportunity presents itself to get one

1301
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 17: of those guys like Bradsl's there at sixty three or

1302
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 17: something like that, or doing the AJ Brown trade. I

1303
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 17: don't think those should be mutually exclusive. I would love

1304
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 17: for them to if they can get one of these guys.

1305
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 17: If it's concepts, you don't get them, and then go

1306
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 17: through it to AJ Brown trade. Maybe Booty is as

1307
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 17: part of that trade, so he goes there. So you

1308
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 17: don't got eight, maybe you got seven now, and then

1309
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 17: you got seven guys competing for six spots. I love

1310
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 17: Pop Douglas, but if Chisholm beats them out, so be it.

1311
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Speaker 17: You got such a high talented receiver room that maybe

1312
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 17: you're gonna have to part ways with a really good

1313
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 17: player because everybody else is that good. I just want

1314
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 17: to know what you guys think about that, listen.

1315
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Speaker 2: I'm all for getting the best players.

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00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 5: I just think you're starting to. Thanks Anthony, put a lot,

1317
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 5: a lot of resources into one spot, and now you

1318
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 5: have a lot of bodies, and maybe we can argue

1319
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 5: the semantics of bodies versus players and all that kind

1320
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 5: of stuff. But if you draft somebody with a high

1321
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 5: draft pick and you trade a high draft pick for

1322
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 5: AJ Brown and then you also just used a third

1323
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 5: round pick on Kyle Williams. Like, that's I think we're

1324
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 5: going to get up to eight guys on the team

1325
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 5: for six spots, you know that have a legitimate shot

1326
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 5: of making the roster. Now, if you trade for AJ

1327
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 5: Brown and a receiver goes in the trade and you

1328
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 5: give Kayshawn Booty to Philly, then you know that might

1329
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 5: make it a little bit more palpable. I just I

1330
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 5: think once you now, so we're draft, we're basically using

1331
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 5: back to back let's call him top sixty five sixty

1332
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 5: four picks on wide receivers. If you draft one now

1333
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 5: and then trade one a pick for AJ Brown, it's

1334
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 5: a lot still.

1335
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 6: Just try to point out the only receivers you have

1336
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 6: under contract now your Dobbs, Williams and Chisholm. So you

1337
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 6: know there's got to be some kind of consideration for

1338
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 6: the guys you have. If you see long term futures

1339
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 6: with a guy like Kishan Boudi, you want to sign

1340
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 6: him up. Rabel spoke highie of Douglas today, pumping him up.

1341
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 6: Is he going to start to click in this offense?

1342
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1343
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 6: You know we know, we like Collins, he kind of

1344
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 6: has a role, But I don't know, I don't I

1345
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 6: wouldn't totally totally dismiss it.

1346
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: What did you think of Rabel flat out saying you

1347
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: don't draft or need Yeah.

1348
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 9: If you continue to listen to that answer, it was

1349
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 9: more like you never want to be in that.

1350
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: Position, in that position, okay, yeah, right, Yeah.

1351
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: That's kind of what he said.

1352
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: He did.

1353
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think most people would agree.

1354
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Speaker 9: You don't want to ever be backed into a corner

1355
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 9: where you're taking a lesser player because of it's a

1356
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 9: position that you have to fill.

1357
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I feel like they're a little bit there

1358
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 6: with edge. I mean, I think there it's a little

1359
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 6: bit of a need that you kind of have to draft,

1360
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 6: and it works out because.

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Speaker 10: There are a lot of good players, But it's.

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Speaker 6: Still going to be a little distressing if you get

1363
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 6: to thirty one and maybe the couple guys you really

1364
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 6: like aren't quite there, or maybe it's a little too

1365
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 6: rich for somebody a little bit lower that it's going

1366
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 6: to be a hard decision to say, this is we

1367
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,479
Speaker 6: really need to add a dude here. We don't love

1368
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 6: Zion Young as a pass rusher. We think he's a solid,

1369
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 6: you know, edge player, but not going to bring the

1370
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Speaker 6: juice that we need.

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Speaker 10: Like, I think there's gonna be some real questions for

1372
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 10: that gets made.

1373
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Speaker 5: That's where I feel like you double dip, like to me,

1374
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 5: because you know Landry Jones Swinson ponders kind of your

1375
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 5: room right now, yep, and you know who knows you.

1376
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,479
Speaker 5: He gave it a little bit of an answer about

1377
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 5: Landry's status that didn't sound particularly great to be honest,

1378
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 5: Like he still sounds like he's in a rehab phase

1379
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 5: right now with his knee injury. So you have that

1380
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 5: going on, you know, if you double dip at that

1381
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 5: position and maybe you draft the guy that is a

1382
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 5: little bit more of a stout edge center and then

1383
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 5: you also draft a guy that's a little bit of

1384
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 5: just a pure pass rusher, kind of like what they

1385
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 5: tried to do with and Anthony Jennings, which I think

1386
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 5: kind of worked doubt. I mean, you know, j probably

1387
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 5: didn't pan out quite as much as your top and ANTHONYW.

1388
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 5: Jennings was a solid player for you for a little

1389
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: while here. Now that you could maybe get two guys

1390
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Speaker 5: that because it's such a deep class that both have

1391
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 5: upside that are both a little bit different so that

1392
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 5: you can kind of see what sticks.

1393
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 6: I just let to know what they really think of

1394
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 6: Elijah Ponder and Braden Swinson like that, you know, just

1395
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 6: is there something there?

1396
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: You know?

1397
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 6: I mean, especially Ponder Swinson. We didn't see anything on it.

1398
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 6: I felt like Ponder got his opportunities last year. Is

1399
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 6: he going to continue to just be a rotational player

1400
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 6: or do they have a real confidence or hope that

1401
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 6: he could emerge as an every down kind of a guy.

1402
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: Todd's in North Carolina. I hate Todd.

1403
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I just want to thank you for the

1404
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 7: off season shows. And that interview with Rapes was just amazing.

1405
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 7: I really appreciate that content.

1406
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 6: That was great.

1407
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 3: Wow, and thank you amazing.

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01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

1409
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 7: And the the Foxborough final number four really good. Watched

1410
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Speaker 7: the whole thing, really enjoyed it.

1411
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: Great.

1412
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 2: Now, thank you for that too.

1413
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 7: Pretty quickly, well, thank yourselves, you did it. I got

1414
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 7: three quick questions. Number One, you guys see Diggs back

1415
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 7: in any way, not even necessarily as receiver, just to

1416
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 7: have him in the room. Number Two, is Josh the

1417
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 7: right guy for me? Josh McDaniels. They disappeared their offense

1418
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 7: in the playoffs, and I know we went up against

1419
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 7: a lot of tough defenses, but we just looked like

1420
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 7: we were at a thing.

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01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: So I'm not.

1422
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Speaker 7: Sure if it was just the late in the seasons

1423
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 7: of injuries or what, but is there, you know, maybe

1424
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 7: a little bit of an issue there. And the final one,

1425
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 7: does Evan know anything that we don't because he in

1426
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 7: his mock draft, which was a good showed as well,

1427
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 7: said that we were getting a J. Brown or that

1428
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 7: was and.

1429
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 5: I didn't say we're getting at the Peah.

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01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: He didn't say that. You said you based the mock

1431
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: assuming yes, that they were.

1432
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 5: Right, assuming where I said, I have no information that

1433
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 5: they are getting a J. Brown.

1434
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 4: But how much different would your mock have ben if

1435
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 4: was based on them not getting him?

1436
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 5: Pretty significant, which will be the second one will be

1437
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 5: not AJ Brown, mockecret But I mean they have to

1438
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 5: take a receiver I think in the top one hundred

1439
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 5: if they're not going to trade for a J. Brown,

1440
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 5: So that would change a lot. I think with the

1441
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 5: mock draft thing, you know the way that it came out.

1442
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 5: You know, they're up on Patriots dot com for those

1443
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 5: that want to reduce and my mock draft. But it's

1444
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 5: just the tackle thing. Like there's just not a lot

1445
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 5: of good tackles in this draft, and there's not a

1446
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 5: lot of guys that project, as you know, early career starters.

1447
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 5: So if Morgan Moses gets hurt, if Morgan Moses for

1448
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 5: retires at the end of next year, I know there

1449
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 5: are some people, not me, but some people that remain

1450
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 5: skeptical will Campbell being a long term tackle. So like there,

1451
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 5: if you want tackle depth and if you want a

1452
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 5: guy that can plug and play and actually start early

1453
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 5: on in his rookie contract, I just don't know where

1454
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 5: that comes from. If you don't use the thirty first

1455
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 5: pick now, if you want the punt on tackle and

1456
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 5: say we'll take care of that if it becomes a

1457
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 5: problem next year, that's a fair argument. But if the

1458
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 5: idea this year is to get a successor here for

1459
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 5: Morgan Moses, I think you have a tough time doing

1460
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 5: that unless you go early.

1461
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 10: It's gonna be hard for you. If Blake Miller sitting

1462
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 10: there at thirty one, like you know, we.

1463
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 6: Always talk about guys fall through the cracks, and maybe

1464
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 6: he's the kind of guy that, yeah, you know, ends.

1465
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 5: Up like I feel like Janitor probably will be the

1466
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 5: one that falls because of the inexperience with.

1467
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 10: That name right off, like he didn't even think about it.

1468
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 5: I've said it like a hundred times. I think that

1469
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 5: he would probably be the one that would fall because

1470
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 5: of the inexperience. And you know, he's pretty raw. Really

1471
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 5: didn't play high school football obviously, coming over from Nigeria,

1472
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 5: and then he goes to Juco for a year to

1473
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 5: work on it, and then he goes to Arizona State.

1474
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 5: So he's really only played football for five years of

1475
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 5: his whole life. So I think that there's a lot

1476
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 5: of development that needs to be done there. Blake Miller

1477
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 5: is he's going to start for somebody your one day one,

1478
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 5: but I think Ianito is gonna be a little bit

1479
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: more of a development.

1480
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: Justin's in Arizona.

1481
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 17: Hey, Justin, Hey boy, Jess from Portland now in Arizona.

1482
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 17: How you doing, my man?

1483
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: Good your boy?

1484
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: Justin?

1485
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 18: Yeah, this is just from Portland.

1486
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 11: I'm now a Scott Sales.

1487
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: Oh Chester, Chester, it said Justin on the calls, Hi, Chester,

1488
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: what's up? What you're an accuts?

1489
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 9: Sound like yourself at the bottom of a well.

1490
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, your phone sucks.

1491
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 18: I hope everybody's doing good.

1492
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: It's a little better funny.

1493
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 18: I just wanted to to give a call. I finally

1494
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 18: got around to seeing Forge and Foxborough number four. Oh

1495
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 18: my god, it was so good. And I know we

1496
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 18: had a lot of guarded optimism are going into the

1497
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 18: playoffs and you know, kind of playing with house money,

1498
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 18: so to speak, with this team just overachieving. But man,

1499
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 18: that documentary really really explained a lot of the housing

1500
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 18: wise behind you know, how things shook out at the

1501
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 18: end of the year. It was some some awesome closure

1502
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 18: for you know, a lot of US fans that you

1503
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 18: know left the Super Bowl disappointed and just left me

1504
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 18: with a ton of optivism for next year.

1505
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, great stuff.

1506
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 18: Loving Arizona. You know, I'm out here scouting the tight

1507
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 18: ends poolside, trying to do rable a little help here,

1508
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 18: and man, a lot of talent in Arizona, I can

1509
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 18: tell you that. But yeah, I wanted to just talk

1510
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 18: real quickly. I do think that tight End is is

1511
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 18: a is a big thing under the radar right now,

1512
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 18: and I'm wondering what it's what it would take to

1513
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 18: trade up for a guy like Sadik, if that's even

1514
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 18: a possibility. Or you know, who would be remaining that

1515
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 18: you know, top end of the first round, and then

1516
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 18: the secondary. I think we you know, looking for a

1517
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 18: depth corner is another need, and a and a passing

1518
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 18: running back, a receiving running back. I think that that's

1519
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 18: another thing that would be a nice release valve to

1520
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 18: try to take some of that pressure away if we

1521
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 18: can't get the offensive line a notch above what we

1522
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 18: saw last year. But those are kind of my thoughts

1523
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 18: going into the draft. More anything, I just want to

1524
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 18: check in give you guys a shout again on Forge'

1525
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 18: box bro. Just excellent work there and by apparel.

1526
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Chester, good to hear from you. Where's

1527
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: that tight end he's talking about. Projected to be top twenty,

1528
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: top twenty.

1529
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first round.

1530
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 5: It depends on, you know, his receiving stats at Oregon

1531
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 5: don't blow you away, you know, but his traits do.

1532
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: So it would be a little bit of a risk

1533
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 5: in terms of you know, production in college to the pros.

1534
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 5: But I know, Deuce, is this just give me the

1535
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 5: eyes over there. I know, I know you want the

1536
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 5: I mean.

1537
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: I would be open.

1538
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 6: I mean we've talked about this, but I just I

1539
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 6: think it's easy avenue.

1540
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, you want him.

1541
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 3: I kind of like him, I think, I think I

1542
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 3: I'm surprised.

1543
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 10: I just think that's an easy insertion upgrade.

1544
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 6: Kind of a player, you know, where it's not a

1545
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 6: lot of pressure on him to come in and do

1546
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 6: everything but that you know, maybe somewhat like Hernandez in

1547
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 6: twenty ten when Gronk you know, took a little bit

1548
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 6: of time. You know, it just seemed like goes more

1549
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 6: Hernandez right out of the gate. Maybe he's got the intelligence.

1550
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just the traits are so appealing into

1551
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 6: great player.

1552
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: I'm just surprised that you'd want to trade up.

1553
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 10: Talked about it a couple of times, Yeah.

1554
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, it's an interesting player because you know, you

1555
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 5: are betting on upside and betting on potential a little bit.

1556
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 5: You know that Oregon offense always has some weird outliers

1557
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 5: like that, but for the most part, you're you're betting

1558
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 5: on his athletic profile translating to even more receiving production

1559
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 5: in the NFL. I mean, the depth of the tight

1560
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 5: end class. Frable has been talking about it since February

1561
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 5: is I mean, I've I've probably could go twenty deep

1562
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 5: on the title, it's it's going to be a lot

1563
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 5: of draftable tight ends in this class.

1564
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 10: True, making the pro athletes.

1565
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is this pro athlete community thing?

1566
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1567
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 9: It started off with the mccordy's. They were the first

1568
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 9: two that were talking about.

1569
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: Down there, the new thing that they started.

1570
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 5: He's there in Arizona line.

1571
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 10: I saw him take a sip.

1572
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 6: I thought it was one, But you know, it goes

1573
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 6: back to me and I think we have this conversation

1574
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 6: every year. I think we've even asked Elliot Wolf about it.

1575
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 6: It's just when there's a stacked class, do you say, oh, great,

1576
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 6: there's twenty guys and we kind of like some of them,

1577
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 6: or do you say I want the best of those guys.

1578
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 6: And I mean, I guess where my head starting to

1579
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 6: come is like how many do you really like? Like, yeah,

1580
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 6: they are twenty guys, but I'm sure that there are

1581
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 6: colors and flavors that, you know, you like a little

1582
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 6: bit more of this shade and a little bit more.

1583
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 10: Of that style. So it's great to say that it's

1584
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 10: a huge class.

1585
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 6: I just I still struggle though, to say, but I

1586
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,480
Speaker 6: only like these three guys.

1587
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 9: Right, scouts would say, you know, there's twenty guys. Individual

1588
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 9: NFL teams don't think there's twenty guys to your point.

1589
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 9: So yeah, and if you think that there's a guy

1590
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 9: that you feel comfortable with that will be available by

1591
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 9: all means, you wait now. I would find it hard

1592
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 9: to believe with a class that this kind of depth

1593
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 9: that you'd want to move significantly up to get the

1594
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 9: best because there are good players. But I understand you, Mike,

1595
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 9: and it's a good one. Belichick used to talk about

1596
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:07,839
Speaker 9: it all the time. Just because someone views a position

1597
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 9: or two deeper or thinner than others doesn't mean that

1598
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 9: that's the way that all the teams look at it.

1599
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 3: So this is a good edge class, it's a good

1600
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 3: tight end class.

1601
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 9: Everybody seems to you, guys all are in agreement with

1602
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:22,919
Speaker 9: all of the the flavors.

1603
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 5: Thing is the toughest part is like, and he talked

1604
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 5: about it today, like, do you want more receiving upside?

1605
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 5: Do you want more blocking upside? Do you want well roundedness?

1606
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 5: Where Like, it's not great at any one thing, but

1607
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 5: he can kind of do a little bit of everything.

1608
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 5: That I think is what makes this hard at both

1609
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 5: pass catcher positions in this draft receiver and tight end. Yeah,

1610
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of names and some of them

1611
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 5: are going to be good and some of them aren't.

1612
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 5: And so like sifting through it and stacking the board

1613
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 5: in a year like this at those two positions is

1614
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 5: not easy because you're betting on certain individual traits and

1615
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 5: everybody's at their warts. And you know, Eli Stores is

1616
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 5: a great receiver, but he can't block. And you know

1617
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 5: Sam Rouch is a good blocker, but he's a little

1618
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 5: rows of receivers. Kind of athletically, he should be able

1619
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 5: to do it, right.

1620
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just I don't know.

1621
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 6: I look more and more of these guys, and it's

1622
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 6: like you said, it's more often than not with the

1623
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 6: tight ends, it's not a lot of production. You know,

1624
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 6: maybe they're more receivers like and I really like that

1625
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 6: Max clare kid from Ohio State too, who you know, not.

1626
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 10: A blocker but an athletic guy. Looks really athletic to me.

1627
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 6: But we just keep having these debates and at the

1628
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 6: end of the day, I feel like, like I think of

1629
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 6: the twenty nineteen receiving class and you know, at the time,

1630
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 6: they were like, you know, you got aj Brown, you

1631
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 6: got Debo, you got Nikhil Harry, Like, this is a

1632
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 6: really good class. And now here we are six years later,

1633
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 6: and you know that it doesn't work out. Like some

1634
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 6: of those guys certainly had periods of time where.

1635
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 10: They're really good.

1636
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 6: Some are still really good, others are out of the league,

1637
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 6: you know, So how do you find the guys.

1638
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 5: That separates men from the boys this time of year?

1639
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 4: Nick in Boston writes in Phil Perry recently said on

1640
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 4: Twitter that Maxenecorp is twenty two years old.

1641
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 2: However, around the combine, I was most seeing reports saying

1642
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: he's twenty four to twenty five. I don't understand why

1643
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 2: it's so hard to correct ages for prospects, but since

1644
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: his technique is very raw, I see him as a

1645
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: totally different prospect if he's twenty two verse twenty four.

1646
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: Any idea how old he actually is?

1647
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 5: Twenty two? Yeah, he's twenty two. I think this one

1648
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 5: got complicated because he wasn't born in the United States.

1649
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 9: It happens a lot with guys that aren't bon Yeah,

1650
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 9: it happens for in baseball, you know, the Latin American

1651
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 9: players often have different ages. Usually X equals seven. You

1652
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 9: can add seven to any any guy who comes over.

1653
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 9: But that's where the confusion would call.

1654
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 6: Well, have you talked about the Brugler Like Brugler somehow

1655
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 6: tracks down.

1656
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 5: We had a caller that called in to catch twenty

1657
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 5: two early on in February. I want to say that

1658
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 5: said that he was twenty five, and it didn't. It

1659
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 5: didn't pass the sniff test with me. I was like,

1660
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 5: that doesn't feel right, Like I feel like I would

1661
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 5: have heard that if because if he was that old.

1662
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 5: And so I actually texted Dane and he told me

1663
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 5: that he's being told he's twenty two and he's putting

1664
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 5: twenty two in the beast. So I'm gonna I'm gonna

1665
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 5: trust him there.

1666
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: How about all the baseball players losing height because.

1667
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 9: The couple gained a couple which was which was funny.

1668
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 9: That's we don't need to go into that. But that's

1669
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 9: my biggest issue with the whole thing. What is the

1670
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 9: strike zone has changed?

1671
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 2: Like you's not three dimensional now?

1672
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,520
Speaker 9: Well not only you're asking the umpire, like the umpires

1673
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 9: are now taking a strike zone that they've used for

1674
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 9: their whole career and they have to change it.

1675
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: Well, that's why they're missing. So many cops.

1676
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 4: Here's what's interesting is, I guess originally in the minor

1677
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 4: leagues they did test this with a three dimensional strike

1678
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 4: zone and the results were like really not expected by

1679
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 4: the players in the ump and every like, wow, I

1680
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 4: didn't know that was a strike, and so probably they've

1681
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 4: been calling it wrong all this time, you know, But

1682
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 4: I listen.

1683
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: Just my opinion, I've said it before.

1684
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 10: Go all out.

1685
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: It should be abs every but every pitch.

1686
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 3: That's gonna come. I just don't like.

1687
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,879
Speaker 9: I just don't like watching it because I see pitches

1688
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 9: that are now called balls and strikes that in my

1689
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 9: view aren't because it's not in that box. Like, I

1690
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 9: don't think you can take one that is at the

1691
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 9: very top and corner on the outside corner to a

1692
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 9: right handed batter and one that's at the very bottom

1693
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 9: inside corner and both of those pitches be a strike.

1694
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 2: Is it break the plane or not?

1695
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of pitches that break the plane

1696
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 3: that aren't strikes.

1697
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: Then the play then change the plane.

1698
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, I'm just watching games. I can just

1699
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 9: look at it. There's different pitches that are being called

1700
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 9: spikes that are from that box that some of them

1701
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 9: are strikes, and some of them aren't. Like you can look,

1702
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 9: you can watch, you can tell by the batter and

1703
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 9: all that. I don't think the robot has it. I

1704
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 9: don't think. I don't think that's the way the game

1705
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 9: is meant to be fixable. I don't think that's the

1706
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 9: way the game is meant to be played.

1707
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: Was tennis supposed to have all these line people, that's

1708
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: the way they did it. But now it's so much better.

1709
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 9: But that's that's to me. That's different because there's there

1710
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 9: is a line there, there's no lot, Like, it's not

1711
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 9: the same for every batter. The lines that are the

1712
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 9: same as a virtual line, and it doesn't matter if

1713
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 9: it's Michael Chang at five ten or Boris Becker at

1714
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 9: six four, right, Like the lines are the same.

1715
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 2: They're not. That's why these guys get measured the line.

1716
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 9: The lines on the tennis court are the same. Oh right, Yeah,

1717
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 9: it's not a universal strike zone for everybody's that's correct, same, right,

1718
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 9: Like your batting stance can be different, your size can

1719
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 9: be like there's a lot of different.

1720
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: Vertical can be different, horizontal is the same.

1721
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 3: And I just I don't know, I don't like it.

1722
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 3: So far.

1723
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 9: I'm sure that they'll work out the bugs, you know,

1724
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 9: I think teams and the umpires both are getting used

1725
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 9: to it.

1726
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 3: It'll it'll be better.

1727
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 9: But my initial reaction is it's not really adding my

1728
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 9: enjoyment to the game.

1729
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting. The strategy of it is interesting

1730
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 5: of when to use the challenges and which counts to

1731
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 5: use the challenges, because I usually think it would be

1732
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 5: like ball four, strike three, but like the one two

1733
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 5: to two one count I guess is like a huge

1734
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 5: if you look at the numbers, Like the difference in

1735
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 5: on base percentage is massive if you're in a two

1736
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 5: to one count vers time.

1737
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 3: On the time of the game is the big thing

1738
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 3: for the Red Sox.

1739
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 5: They wasted them, Anthony, But I I kind of agree

1740
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 5: with you, I think, Paul in the sense that like

1741
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 5: there's these ones that it's like a centimeter off the

1742
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 5: plate and it's like this is for like egregious, like

1743
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 5: this was like six inches off.

1744
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 3: It's like everything else that relay is ruined.

1745
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 9: It's supposed to be correcting the obvious mistakes and now

1746
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 9: we're getting this.

1747
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 4: But now we can get exact I don't think like

1748
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 4: the close enough the pitch in the WBC that they

1749
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 4: called a strike that was six inches off the plate.

1750
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 5: That ended that game Like that we.

1751
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 3: Should be able to.

1752
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 5: Right, But the the other day they had one that

1753
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 5: like they couldn't even show the the white in between

1754
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 5: the ball and the strike zone. All they could tell

1755
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 5: you is that it was a ball because there was

1756
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 5: such little fine line.

1757
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: If I'm a batter, and I'm happy for that.

1758
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 9: And I would argue that a ball that is outside

1759
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 9: the strike zone, that maybe touches that line by the

1760
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 9: stitch of the ball is not a strike. But if

1761
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,839
Speaker 9: it's if it's in that box that somehow you've artificially created,

1762
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 9: it's automatically.

1763
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 10: Called the strike.

1764
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: But if it touches, why is it not.

1765
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 9: It's really like it's not really a hit able pitch.

1766
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 9: It's not really over the strike zone, you know. And

1767
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 9: I'm coming from a pitcher's perspective. I think this is

1768
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 9: going to be it's it's going to be tough now.

1769
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 9: And to forget the low strike. No one can throw

1770
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 9: a low strike anymore. Everything is dropping below that box.

1771
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 9: There's strikes and they're all called balls. Now they're getting

1772
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 9: overturned because again it's down the middle of the plate.

1773
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 3: But it's this much below that line. It's a ball.

1774
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 3: That's a strike. It's been a strike for one hundred

1775
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,879
Speaker 3: and fifty years. Now it's not anymore.

1776
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it's wrong before hundred and fifty years.

1777
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 3: That's you. I mean, I don't tell you. You have

1778
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: to like it.

1779
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like getting it right.

1780
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 9: I don't like the artificial nature of it. To me,

1781
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 9: it's it takes away the enjoyment of the game.

1782
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 4: To me, it's impossible for the human eye to see

1783
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 4: this ball coming.

1784
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 9: It's just like the guy slides into second base and

1785
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 9: maybe he overslides the bag by a millimeter and I

1786
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 9: the foot off and there's a spike you know in between.

1787
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 3: He's out. Now, that's not the way the game is

1788
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 3: supposed to be played.

1789
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 5: It's not the it's not the you can change it

1790
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 5: by just okay, that was the one. I that that

1791
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 5: in the hockey off side like they can they can

1792
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 5: go a minute later. That does too, But that's the

1793
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 5: air space of second base on steels. If the guy

1794
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 5: beats the throw, he beats the throw.

1795
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: And like that's on side in hockey.

1796
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 9: If you have to go back and look and you're

1797
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 9: like the lace of the skate was like, that's not

1798
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 9: the way it's supposed to be. Yes, Fred's right, the

1799
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 9: artificial intelligence is showing you he was off side. No

1800
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,440
Speaker 9: one wants to see those plays overturned.

1801
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 6: I think part of it too with baseball and Paul

1802
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 6: is that he's so good at yelling at umps that

1803
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 6: this he can't yell at.

1804
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 10: You got some zingers on, honest. I mean you told

1805
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 10: me some gold that you spewed at at various umpires.

1806
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 10: Now it's a computer. He can't yell at the computer.

1807
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: He just got a found it and go much younger

1808
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: and earlier.

1809
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 4: Earlier, we were talking about quarterbacks and you know they're

1810
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 4: processing and the mental capacity. Travis and West Virginia says,

1811
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 4: So you guys are actually admitting that a quarterback's brains matter.

1812
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 4: You're always dismissive of me when I tell you that

1813
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's Dodo brain is holding him back.

1814
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 3: You and Evan, we're not dismissive that a brain matters.

1815
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: I think he's being suck that's all.

1816
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I didn't give the some regression there.

1817
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: Remember what we were talking about Dante Scarneki movie.

1818
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 10: We talked to him about it. Yeah, we started to.

1819
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 2: So somebody sent us a link. I don't know if Matt,

1820
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 2: maybe you can get this.

1821
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 4: This is from Mike Middletown. Mike, It's an email that

1822
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 4: just came in not too long ago. It's got a

1823
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 4: YouTube link to the movie. Maybe we could play it.

1824
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 6: So we weren't able to get the story, but we

1825
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 6: we got like Dante was there at the draft party,

1826
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 6: and so we're in the suite getting ready to go down,

1827
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 6: and and Evan asked him about it, and he was like,

1828
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 6: and he knew exactly what we're talking about.

1829
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 5: What Yeah, he had the movie right out, The Stealer

1830
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 5: and the Pittsburgh Kid.

1831
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: I sure did.

1832
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 6: And then right as they said, like Mike and Evan,

1833
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 6: can you come now? And so right as weird, I

1834
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 6: was like, get the story on Dante's movie.

1835
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 10: I thought he wouldn't remember for some reason.

1836
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 5: No, right as soon as I asked him about it.

1837
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, why wouldn't he remember a movie?

1838
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1839
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 5: No, I it was funny because commercial, right, isn't it?

1840
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: The this was a movie whole movie yea.

1841
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 10: With Henry Thomas and Lonnie Chapman.

1842
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 9: Henry Thomas, I totally misunderstood this whole thing. I thought

1843
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 9: the kid was Henry Thomas and a commercial picture. I

1844
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 9: don't know, I don't even know anything about.

1845
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 6: A movie, and it was the movie is basically was

1846
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 6: based on the Coca Cola commercials. So I guess the

1847
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 6: success made them want to make it into a movie.

1848
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, how I was. Evidently it didn't work.

1849
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 5: Jess came with me on Sunday to the draft party

1850
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 5: and she was like, watching you interact with Dante Scarneki,

1851
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 5: it was something else, and I was like.

1852
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 3: You look at her.

1853
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 6: I said, it wasn't as good as when he called

1854
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 6: Jenny Dell old to her face.

1855
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 5: Though, that was that you called her old, well, like

1856
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 5: like accidentally obviously, since I because she came up to

1857
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 5: me and introduced herself. I never met her before, and

1858
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 5: I was like, uh, I think she said that she

1859
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 5: had been watching some of our stuff to like get

1860
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 5: to know.

1861
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 10: Are just a fan? I thought, you guys.

1862
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 5: She's very prepared apparently for these types of things. And

1863
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 5: I said, oh, like, I've been a fan of yours

1864
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 5: since I was a kid, and you know.

1865
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 10: Well, but I thought he was playing it well, just

1866
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 10: sitting right there. Jess was like, good yeash.

1867
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 5: But then I also realize that, like she's not that

1868
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 5: much older than I am, Like we're not that it was.

1869
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 6: We should probably shout out Booker too, who was there

1870
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 6: and we had to meet Booker.

1871
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 10: We told you guys about him.

1872
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 6: We had a super Patriots unfiltered fan there who had

1873
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 6: his shirt signed. We had to sign it a second

1874
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 6: time for Booker. He came up on stage. He had

1875
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 6: a nice shout out for Patriots on filter. We got

1876
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 6: to try to get that footage. But he and his mom,

1877
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 6: I think it was Kelly, were there and that was

1878
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 6: that was fun. We didn't think there were gonna be

1879
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 6: any fans who want to meet us. Everybody's there to

1880
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 6: see Damien Harris and Jenny Dell and all those, but

1881
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 6: Booker was there for us.

1882
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 10: So thank you Booker.

1883
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Joe and Michigan.

1884
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 4: Evan said something regarding Edge Rusher Jennings to paraphrase, you

1885
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 4: had a pretty good player in Jennings. In Patriots world,

1886
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 4: it is we, not anything else, not you, Okay, So

1887
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 4: we should have said we had a pretty good player Jennings. Oh,

1888
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 4: you don't do that.

1889
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 10: You're not on the team, but you're part of the brand.

1890
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still got.

1891
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 5: Some some j school and me. Sorry, not a wee guy.

1892
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 9: Whether I was like, I'm not on the team, it's

1893
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 9: not we I wish. I wish you are on the team.

1894
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 9: I wish get paid by the same people that pay them.

1895
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 9: You're on the team, Paul, No, I'm not. No, definitely, okay, difference.

1896
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna stop cashing those checks.

1897
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,799
Speaker 5: Uh someday.

1898
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean, no, we are on the team. We get

1899
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: paid by them.

1900
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 5: It's not it's not.

1901
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 3: But that doesn't make you on the team.

1902
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 2: We don't play on the field, but we support the team.

1903
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:29,440
Speaker 2: We're part of support.

1904
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 3: Staff or any other significant.

1905
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: Regardless of that. The fact is we're work for the

1906
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: same people.

1907
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: We work for the same people, but you're not on

1908
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 3: the same team.

1909
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: Yes, we know, not what team are you on?

1910
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 3: Content for the content team?

1911
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: Right? But that I don't know. I don't know how

1912
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: you're differentiating. We support the team, so.

1913
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 3: Right, this is dumb. This is even for us, even

1914
01:24:58,920 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: from you and I.

1915
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: This is the I mean, you know, it is what

1916
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 2: it is.

1917
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,839
Speaker 3: I f p like on football too, that's a totally

1918
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 3: we're not They.

1919
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 9: Don't spy the same people.

1920
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: They don't support the team they don't support, like that's

1921
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: a paper company.

1922
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: But that's not what we're here for.

1923
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: It is why we're here.

1924
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: It's not we're here to provide content.

1925
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 2: For fans of the team, for.

1926
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 3: Everybody, like we don't.

1927
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 9: We don't kick you out if you're not a fan

1928
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 9: of the team, if you if we take all time.

1929
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 9: We're here to provide content period, the best we can

1930
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 9: possibly produce.

1931
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 5: If you're Broncos or Bills, We're not are we going.

1932
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 3: To kick them out.

1933
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: We're not making content about paper. We're doing it about

1934
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: the Patriots.

1935
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 9: Certainly, I wish I had the talent to be on

1936
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 9: the professional football team.

1937
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 3: I don't same. I mean, like you're too old. It's

1938
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 3: pretty simple.

1939
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1940
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 5: I just think I just you know, it's that little

1941
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 5: bit of like you don't say we.

1942
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: You know, it's not when your journalism, you don't do that.

1943
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that's one thing that I Yeah.

1944
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: But I sometimes I say I went away in the

1945
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 4: buston media a long time ago.

1946
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: Fred's absolutely right.

1947
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 5: Little bit sometimes I say.

1948
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 6: We, But it's not so much like feeling like I'm

1949
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 6: on the team. It's just like we are glued to

1950
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 6: the team's hips. So like when I talk about we

1951
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 6: were at you know, the super Bowl, it's more physically

1952
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 6: us we not we the team. But I think also

1953
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 6: to Fred's like, we're kind of part of the brand,

1954
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 6: Like we're part of the Patriots brand. We're not on

1955
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 6: the team per se, but we are part.

1956
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 2: Of We're supporting the brand right right, We're like the

1957
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 2: equipment guys.

1958
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 3: If I was on the team, i'd be able to

1959
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: bet on sports.

1960
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 9: I'm not on the team, therefore I can't in the cafeteria.

1961
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: No, I mean, are the equipment guys on the team?

1962
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 5: Yes, but they literally are on the sideline in the

1963
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 5: locker room.

1964
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 9: They're more than our department would be. No to that,

1965
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,839
Speaker 9: like coaches and players, that's the team department.

1966
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 5: I think the equipment guys are.

1967
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 3: Definitely you know, personnel department scouts. They're on the team.

1968
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 5: Because the equipment guys do a ton of work for

1969
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 5: US players.

1970
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 9: Oh my god, I think every last player that's closer

1971
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 9: I would say, but I think.

1972
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: Every last player would say, you're on our team.

1973
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean those guys.

1974
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 9: If we're using that is a barometer, then I win

1975
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,879
Speaker 9: and a knockout, because there's no way they're saying that we're.

1976
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: On Oh yeah, now they are.

1977
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: I think so.

1978
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,839
Speaker 2: No, Paul, you're wrong, Okay, back.

1979
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 3: In the day, I'll only speak for myself.

1980
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 2: Back in the day, you were right.

1981
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 9: Maybe the people that are indifferent with them, they feel

1982
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 9: differently about now, but they don't feel like that about

1983
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 9: those are yours?

1984
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: Know?

1985
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 3: What do I want them to?

1986
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: I know? But those are your colleagues. We're all part

1987
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 2: of the same family.

1988
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 3: Poll Okay, we are. This is a ridiculous conversation.

1989
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you what's.

1990
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 3: Stemming from one individual person.

1991
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you what's going on annoying me. If he thinks, oh, I.

1992
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 5: Would love to ask him that because I think he'd

1993
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 5: have some funny things to say.

1994
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 4: He would say that you're part of our team. I

1995
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 4: guarantee he would say it.

1996
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 5: I got into it a couple of weeks ago with

1997
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 5: the Thunder fans were coming after me because I was

1998
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 5: chirping Hay because he's a flopping baby, and one of

1999
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 5: their guys like that Nightven, one of the guys that

2000
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 5: was coming after me like says like it has in

2001
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 5: his bio that he's in Thunder basketball operations.

2002
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 10: He has my job for the Thunder and he's clapping back.

2003
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 5: But he says that he's in their basketball operations, and

2004
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 5: I was like, you work for the content team, Like

2005
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 5: you're not in basketball operations. Like I'm a team reporter.

2006
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 5: I'm not in football operations with the New England Patriots.

2007
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 10: So he should know what you're talking about, right, Like it.

2008
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 5: Was super weird. I was like, why would you You're

2009
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 5: acting like you're Sam Presty, like you're the general manager

2010
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 5: of the team. It was weird.

2011
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Danny's and Daytona, what's up, Danny?

2012
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 19: Hey, how's it going, gentleman Danny? But you guys went

2013
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 19: out of that. You guys went out of business for

2014
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 19: a while. And I'm just playing with you guys.

2015
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 4: Why do you say that? Why why do you say

2016
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 4: you thought we went out of business?

2017
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 19: Oh no, I uh, Matt was miss show. No, I'm

2018
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 19: just I just wanted to just giving you guys, just

2019
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 19: I'm just giving you guys a hard time, especially uh Paul, Well,

2020
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 19: I miss seeing you on your shows. Paul, you haven't

2021
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 19: been on your shows lately. But uh, well, that's another

2022
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 19: one there for another day. I just wanted to get

2023
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 19: to the point of Evan, You've been doing some good

2024
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 19: coverage on the guys, so so have you, Douce. I

2025
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 19: wanted to give you guys kudos for that. Been seeing

2026
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 19: some of your Guys coverage on YouTube, so thanks for

2027
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 19: watching that, no problem. I do want to see that guy.

2028
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 19: I talked to him. If y'all remember I called in

2029
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 19: during the middle of seasons about seeing Romeo Romelo height.

2030
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 19: I really would like to see him. I know a

2031
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 19: lot of people are saying he's older or something like that,

2032
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 19: and they're kind of watching out for that, but uh,

2033
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 19: he's one guy I would like to see.

2034
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 17: I really would like to.

2035
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 19: I really just want I'm not going to say he's

2036
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 19: that guy, but I would like to see them at

2037
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 19: a do it all kind of off ball linebacker kind

2038
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 19: of somebody like I really want to see them have

2039
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 19: like a Luke Kley slash spread warner type linebacker.

2040
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 2: He was in the middle of that.

2041
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 19: That's that's who I really would like to see.

2042
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 2: You know, we have to.

2043
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, first ballance chief singletary, somebody like,

2044
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 5: let's go the.

2045
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 3: Best that ever did it may best in my ear.

2046
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean he's good, he's good.

2047
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 19: I mean like I said, we have never really, I mean,

2048
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 19: think about it, if somebody brought up a point on

2049
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 19: this is my last steak before I get off here.

2050
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 19: Somebody really brought up a point the last thing. The Patriots,

2051
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 19: and I'm just talking about across the whole team. The

2052
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 19: Patriots have not had a single like true pro bowler slash,

2053
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 19: you know, first team All Pro since going back since

2054
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 19: twenty thirteen. They and they mentioned it was Dante high

2055
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 19: Tower or what's yeah, Dante high Tower or who is

2056
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 19: the past rusher they had they traded to the Cardinals.

2057
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 19: Who was Kaandler Jones, Taylor Jones, Ydler Jones. They haven't

2058
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 19: had they haven't had a guys like that since back

2059
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 19: in I mean, I remember watching them when I was

2060
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 19: in high school. I remember watching those guys.

2061
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 9: Are we talking about like a linebacker just juster.

2062
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 19: No, I'm talking about in general.

2063
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 3: I'm just Christian Gonzales, I would say, would be one

2064
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 3: of those.

2065
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 19: He's getting it.

2066
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 3: I'm just talking about draft picks.

2067
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying And then they also brought

2068
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 19: up another point. The somebody just brought us about ESPN

2069
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 19: that or maybe it was Colin Hurd. The Patriots haven't

2070
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 19: had another person who haven't they re signed that's been

2071
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 19: a first rounder. Uh, that's been on the team. And

2072
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 19: I went back and I was going through all the years.

2073
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 9: I was like, damn, Gonzales is going to be the first.

2074
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 3: In a little bit, Yeah.

2075
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 19: He is first, and I mean, yeah, you can say

2076
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 19: Bill was the guy picking it. But we have not

2077
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 19: had a single person that we've taken that was in

2078
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 19: the first round that they restarted. Everybody has either walked,

2079
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 19: either Bill stupidly trade him or let him go. Are

2080
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 19: they either they walked or they got traded or they

2081
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 19: were whatever. Yeah, album something happened. But every team has,

2082
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 19: for the most part, has retained at least a good

2083
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 19: portion of their first rounds. The Patriots for the last

2084
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 19: literally ten to ten years, they went back from twenty

2085
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 19: ten all in twenty nineteen anywhere.

2086
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 10: That's why they stunk the last few years.

2087
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 3: It's twelve.

2088
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 5: I think Towers the last.

2089
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 9: Gonzales is going to break that stretch, which is obviously

2090
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 9: a positive sign. I mean, I assume that they're gonna sorry,

2091
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 9: I assume that we're going to re sign Gonzales.

2092
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 10: We like to, I hope, So you're going to chip

2093
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 10: in for that.

2094
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 9: I assume that part of the money when we when

2095
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 9: we take some mic and you know, and Mike does,

2096
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 9: what are we doing the stuff that like that we suggest, I.

2097
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 3: Think we'll get it done.

2098
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 2: We'll sign him.

2099
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, help effect Adam in Louisiana. Pee Does a PU

2100
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 4: crew get a ring if they win the Super Bowl?

2101
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Some? Do you did?

2102
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 3: Yes? I did? Okay, I have sometimes okay, some I had.

2103
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 5: And ideas and I haven't had.

2104
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 9: My guess is that players that are on the team

2105
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 9: always get it. Sometimes I get it. Sometimes I didn't.

2106
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I never.

2107
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 2: Got So sometimes you with the team and sometimes you're not.

2108
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the way they think they envision it.

2109
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 9: So maybe maybe after this conversation, I cannot expect you

2110
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:13,719
Speaker 9: next time.

2111
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 2: I would say right now, and you can say that

2112
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 2: you're on the team.

2113
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 3: But I would say proud. The answer to that is

2114
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 3: sometimes be proud of it.

2115
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 6: That was that was like I didn't say it, but

2116
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 6: when I was a little depressed duce watching walking out

2117
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:30,440
Speaker 6: of the Super Bowl and there was like a Seahawks

2118
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 6: fan in front of me who would been kind of

2119
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 6: giving me the business little but I'd always been like respectful,

2120
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 6: but there was part of me.

2121
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 10: They wanted to, you know, just.

2122
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 6: They're like, man, I would have gotten a Super Bowl

2123
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 6: ring if we won, Like what are you going to get?

2124
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Nothing? Wow?

2125
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:43,959
Speaker 5: Wow?

2126
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 10: I didn't say it though.

2127
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 3: Mike came from a dark place right there, dark duce.

2128
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 5: I didn't know he was. He was one of these guys.

2129
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 6: He was like one of those guys he would like

2130
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 6: say things and then kind of like look back if

2131
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 6: there was any reaction, you know. And I'm always one

2132
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 6: of those like yeah, like he's trying to right right,

2133
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 6: and so I'm taking the cheese from him at all.

2134
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 6: I'm like and you know, I just so I could

2135
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 6: be like, your defense really good, man, Yeah.

2136
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 3: It's good. What else? Oh no, wait a good right,

2137
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 3: we're good.

2138
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 2: Williams and Phelim what's up? William? Thanks?

2139
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 11: How you doing all right?

2140
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 18: All right?

2141
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 11: What's going on?

2142
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 2: Team?

2143
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 5: Hey doing okay?

2144
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 2: We're doing good?

2145
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 3: Okay?

2146
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 11: Uh to the caller that well, I guess that caller

2147
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 11: was just on what not?

2148
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 2: He was damn right?

2149
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 11: He said since twenty ten, Yeah, you haven't had no

2150
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 11: game changes since then. That's a very long time now.

2151
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 11: And he made me think about that. I was like,

2152
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:47,799
Speaker 11: damn if he wasn't right, about that. But my questions

2153
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 11: for well, not so much a question for Evan. I'm

2154
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 11: to state this, Okay, Evan, I remember you going with

2155
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 11: the Will Campbell's train last season, So now I guess

2156
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 11: we basically do need a right tackle because I know

2157
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 11: most of it is getting older. So I agree with

2158
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 11: that assessment. Okay, but after this, I'm hopefully we're done

2159
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 11: with dolphinsive line god willing, though I really wish some

2160
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 11: of those guards we picked that pinned out. But mister

2161
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 11: Elliot Wolflow, we ain't even got justice stuff. You already

2162
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 11: know how I feel about him. But at this point

2163
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 11: I'll leave it at dizdel Nick Cattle's was right though.

2164
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 11: At some point, gentlemen, you know, and I know Duce.

2165
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 11: I know you big on the draft. I understand that though.

2166
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 7: Okay, but you know.

2167
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 11: Far as the second, third, fourth round and hoping you

2168
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 11: find this player whatever stuff thought, but at some point

2169
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 11: you need to get game changes. Okay. You know you

2170
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 11: got that that dual threat quarterback, that young man, you

2171
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 11: know what I mean, and he should have game changes

2172
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 11: bottom line. I mean somewhere I ain't saying it, maybe

2173
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 11: cross the border, but maybe one or two somewhere it

2174
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:49,440
Speaker 11: would be nice.

2175
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 5: I mean, so I'll be there will if you could

2176
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 5: tell me who the game changers were, then we could

2177
01:35:54,680 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 5: just cut this process down pretty significantly easier. I mean,

2178
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 5: deacially picking thirty one, you just yoh oh, but like

2179
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Speaker 5: you know, you never know.

2180
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 9: And the whole draft thing, I mean this is, you know,

2181
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,879
Speaker 9: Mike has railed against this for a long time. It's

2182
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 9: you go four and thirteen and back to back years.

2183
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 9: It's not just because like well Brady retired and you

2184
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 9: didn't have a quarterback. That's part of it, Like you know,

2185
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 9: the sort of the succession plan for Brady is obviously

2186
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 9: part of it. But when you draft poorly year after year,

2187
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 9: and at the end of the Belichick regime they drafted poorly,

2188
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 9: that's how you get in this situation. So yeah, I mean,

2189
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 9: Christian Gonzales broke a streak of ten plush I think

2190
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 9: it was twelve to whatever it was, gone to twenty three,

2191
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 9: twenty three, it's eleven years. That's a long time to

2192
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 9: go without a significant playmaker being drafted. And that's not

2193
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 9: an exaggeration. They went from Dante High Tower in twelve

2194
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 9: right was the last I would call really solid play

2195
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,839
Speaker 9: making difference making player that they drafted in the first.

2196
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 5: Roun Yeah, yeah, high towered Chandler Joke. Yeah, you know

2197
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:06,719
Speaker 5: those guys.

2198
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 9: You know, Jamie Collins was the second round pick and thirteen.

2199
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 9: He was a good player, but not that kind of play.

2200
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 2: Remember when they drafted, they said, we have the core

2201
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 2: of our defense for years.

2202
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 3: To come, and they did.

2203
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 5: They kind of did well.

2204
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 2: Chandler Jones they traded off, Yeah, but that was four

2205
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 2: years later.

2206
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, you know, five years later like that they

2207
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 9: had that that was the core of that defense won

2208
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 9: in fourteen.

2209
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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I mean I'd point to that as maybe

2210
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 6: being big mistakes, like not holding on to Chandler Jones.

2211
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 10: Not you know, you brought Jamie Collins back like three

2212
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 10: more times.

2213
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 5: Like Kelly Jones had a great career to the.

2214
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 6: Point, right, you find like you find these guys, hang

2215
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 6: on to them. But I'd also point to the current

2216
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 6: team and as good as last season was, and as

2217
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 6: good as last season's free agency class was, it can

2218
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 6: be like twenty one to twenty two if they don't

2219
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 6: replace the production of the veterans as they start to

2220
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 6: age out and their production starts to decline, their availability

2221
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 6: starts to decline. If the rookies and the young guys

2222
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 6: who were around last year, like you know, like a

2223
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 6: Ponder or you know, those kind of players, if those

2224
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 6: guys don't start to develop, you're gonna start to have

2225
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 6: this problem again.

2226
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,679
Speaker 10: So you have to stack another great draft class.

2227
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 6: And for as good as Gonzales and Drake may have been,

2228
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 6: and there have been a couple pieces around them, there

2229
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 6: haven't been a ton. It's not like you look at

2230
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 6: these draft classes and be like, you know the controvations

2231
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 6: from last year for sure, but you're going to need

2232
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 6: more from all those guys next year to prevent getting

2233
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 6: back into the We gotta go to free agency. We

2234
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 6: got to fill all these holes that we've missed with

2235
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 6: all these misdraft picks.

2236
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,600
Speaker 5: I think that that's why when you know, we do

2237
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 5: these mock draft that exercises, like you think so much

2238
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 5: about being a year ahead at different positions, you know, tackle,

2239
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 5: tight end, line back or safety. You know these spots

2240
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 5: where Hunter Henry's thirty two, Roberts Blaine thirty one. They

2241
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 5: just signed Kevin Byer to a one year contract at

2242
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 5: thirty three. You know, like these guys are Morgan Moses

2243
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 5: thirty four, like, those are the players that when they

2244
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 5: were rolling, Bill would always have the next guy. He

2245
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 5: would have the next guy ready to go in the

2246
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 5: pipeline already, And then that stopped happening and they just

2247
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 5: everybody started to age out, and they'd had nothing. They

2248
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 5: didn't have a backup plan for Rob Gronkowski, they didn't have,

2249
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 5: you know, guys that were in the pipeline that we're

2250
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 5: ready to step into those roles.

2251
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 6: They've been so like neat with how they've made their

2252
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 6: personnel moves with free agency, where it's like one out,

2253
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:20,719
Speaker 6: one in for the most part.

2254
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 10: I almost wonder if.

2255
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Speaker 6: You look at the draft and you look at the

2256
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 6: positions of the older free agency signed last year, like

2257
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 6: right tackle, and said, if this draft is kind of

2258
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 6: predicated on filling those positions down the road, you know,

2259
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 6: is it.

2260
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 10: I don't know if it'll be one for one, but

2261
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 10: it might be praying.

2262
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 9: This is why I really like what you know, and

2263
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 9: it's not necessarily results oriented because we don't know yet,

2264
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 9: But I like the mindset of what they did in

2265
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 9: free agency because of what Mike talked about in twenty one.

2266
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 9: They hit it out of the park in free agency.

2267
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 9: You know, they got a lot of contributions from a

2268
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 9: lot of different guys, and that was a big part

2269
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 9: of the reason why they went from a bad team

2270
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 9: to a ten win team that made the playoffs. Now

2271
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,919
Speaker 9: this last year, they were even better in free agency.

2272
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 9: But Mike didn't just sit there and say, Okay, we

2273
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 9: got all that straightened away. I think I put it

2274
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 9: in the last show. Six of the guys that they

2275
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 9: signed last year are gone. Six. That's like half of

2276
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 9: those free agents. So he's not relying on all those

2277
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 9: guys to do it again. So it's not going to

2278
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 9: be like Matthew Judon who was tremendous in his first

2279
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 9: season and then fell off a cliff, you know, in

2280
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 9: the second half of the second season, and then sort

2281
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 9: of continue to go that way.

2282
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 3: Again.

2283
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 9: That's all well and good. If Draymond Jones is as

2284
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,799
Speaker 9: good or better than calevon Chase on Romeo Dobbs, Romeo

2285
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 9: Dobbs is as you know, as good or better than

2286
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 9: Steph Diggs, and you know, all the different moves that

2287
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 9: they made, but I like the idea behind what they did.

2288
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 9: Don't get complacent with the free agents that you got

2289
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 9: last year. You know, Brad Berry was a really good

2290
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 9: player for them last year. I think they're hoping Jared

2291
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 9: Wilson can be as good, if not better than he

2292
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 9: is at center. Yeah, and they know Vera Tucka Vera

2293
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 9: ta is a better player than Jared Wilson was last

2294
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 9: year at left guard, so they know that if he's healthy,

2295
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 9: he's an upgrade.

2296
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 3: So I like that mindset.

2297
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2298
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 6: It was chatting with David Andrews also, the draft party

2299
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 6: asked him just about that move. I mean he, you know,

2300
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 6: basically saw Bradberry come in last year. I mean not

2301
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 6: nothing breaking, you know, no breaking news or anything, but

2302
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 6: he liked the movie, understood why they were doing it.

2303
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 6: You know, it's ripped the band aid off, and maybe

2304
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 6: you would have gotten another solid year from from Bradberry.

2305
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 6: But this is where Wilson's gonna end up. Let's rip

2306
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 6: the band aid off and go for it.

2307
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 5: It's a dog for him, kind of like the Georgia guys.

2308
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 4: Trent right Sin but Quicksand, Oh Good says, I can't

2309
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 4: believe you had a discussion on Quicksand and never mentioned

2310
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 4: the Princess Bride or to bring it back to football,

2311
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 4: Shane Falco's great Quicksand speech from the replacement Quicksand. Yeah,

2312
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 4: you're playing and you think everything's going fine, but then

2313
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 4: one thing goes wrong, and then another and another.

2314
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 2: You try to fight back, but the heart of you

2315
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 2: fight the deeper.

2316
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 4: You sink until you can't move, you can't breathe because

2317
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 4: you're in over your head, like Quicksand.

2318
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great movie.

2319
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 6: My wife called me out on the I asked her

2320
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 6: about it too, because I was curious and it was

2321
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 6: the same thing as us, like just a general like

2322
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 6: fear of Quicksand, but never seen quicksand didn't know why.

2323
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 6: But she brought up the Princess Bride as well, which

2324
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 6: is a good one. I mean, but I don't think

2325
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 6: that's really Quicksand. That's more like fantasy sinking into sand.

2326
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 6: I you know, I don't know irrational.

2327
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 2: Mike Nicholas in Oslo, Norway. I heard your discussion last

2328
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 2: week about the most disturbing movies you had seen. I'm

2329
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 2: surprised Evan didn't mention the movie Draft Day. I'm sure

2330
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 2: that left him traumatized.

2331
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 5: It's a good email.

2332
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 2: Must never happened.

2333
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 3: Did you ever see the movie Menace to Society?

2334
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2335
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is one of the most disturbing movies you've

2336
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 3: ever seen.

2337
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like it's kind of like a little

2338
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 6: more hardcore than Boys in the Hood, right, They were

2339
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 6: kind of back to back Menace to Society. Yeah, and

2340
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 6: then there was Don't Be a Menace in South Central

2341
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 6: Drinking Juice.

2342
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 2: Back to Draft. I thought that was a decent movie.

2343
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 4: I know it was a little bit, you know, a

2344
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,759
Speaker 4: little bit didn't like it.

2345
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 2: It was made for it was Hollywood.

2346
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 5: I didn't like a single second team, Like can we

2347
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 5: just like have some sort of realism, like just a

2348
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 5: little the.

2349
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 10: People not just whose real name?

2350
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 2: You're the that one talking about the teams? Yeah, yeah,

2351
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 2: so I think that was good.

2352
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 3: An element it wasn't Sentinels.

2353
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 9: I thought the movie itself, to your side, Fred was

2354
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 9: a decent you know, it was well done. It was

2355
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 9: it was It was a decent story. To Evan's side,

2356
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 9: they could have had a decent story exactly the way

2357
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 9: they had it. It had some semblance of reality without those

2358
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 9: really absurd trades, like you could have done the same

2359
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 9: thing and didn't have to hollywood it up, you know,

2360
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 9: like the whole the premise behind like you being the

2361
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 9: one guy that wasn't sold on the quarterback. That's that's fine,

2362
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 9: but like we're gonna trade all our picks, then we're

2363
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 9: going to get him back. Then we're going to break

2364
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 9: you over the colt.

2365
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 3: What do they know? Like that is so unrealistic, I know,

2366
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 3: but I.

2367
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 4: Think for a general audience, realism when it comes to

2368
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 4: the draft would be incredibly boring.

2369
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 9: No, but I think they could have had a dramatic

2370
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 9: trade the way they did, but it could have been

2371
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 9: based on some kind of reality. I mean, Mike dick

2372
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,640
Speaker 9: Hat traded his whole draft for Ricky Williams, Like, so

2373
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 9: you could do that, but he didn't then trade it

2374
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 9: back for twice of what he.

2375
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 5: Paid you, like when I We're gonna.

2376
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 3: End up with everybody at the end.

2377
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 5: That movie came out when I was working at NFL

2378
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 5: Network and they had a screening for us in the

2379
01:44:55,439 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 5: movie and I'm Gonna Lost and his the the Girl

2380
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 5: and Gardener Jeffer Gardner. They were gonna come on our

2381
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 5: shows that week to promote the movie the movie, and

2382
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 5: they made the really big mistake of showing that movie

2383
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 5: to a room full of like nerds like me, And

2384
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 5: so after the movie was over, everybody's like, what do

2385
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 5: you think of the movie, and the whole place was

2386
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 5: like that.

2387
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 10: Was horrible, that would never happen.

2388
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,879
Speaker 2: I was like, this is, oh yeah, but it's a movie.

2389
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,799
Speaker 3: No I got like I told you, I saw.

2390
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:30,560
Speaker 2: There wasn't a documentary.

2391
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 5: But there's a lot of really good football movies where

2392
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 5: that would like, you know, a little bit far fetched

2393
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 5: ending or something like that, that are still great movies,

2394
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 5: you know.

2395
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 3: And like I didn't it was great.

2396
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 2: I'm not calling it great, I know, but you.

2397
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 5: Can still do it with it within the parameters of reality,

2398
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 5: where like it's still not that.

2399
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 2: Like I said, they used the real names.

2400
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 5: Wow, the real teams. If that's the bar Claire Wrightson,

2401
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 5: Hello everyone, Hello.

2402
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 2: Ever, just let me ride this blissful way from mom

2403
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 2: with Rabel saying I love him about tight ends. Give

2404
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 2: them nine, give me nine of them, Bring me as

2405
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 2: many tight ends as we can get. Swoon. I endore you, Evan,

2406
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 2: And do you genuinely appreciate double dipping? Maybe a touch much,

2407
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 2: but let me have my moment.

2408
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 5: Hey, they need to draft a tight end. I just said,

2409
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 5: you already have a room that doesn't really need two

2410
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 5: of them. They clearly really like Julian Hill, you know, this.

2411
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 3: Might say more about me than anything else.

2412
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 9: But the first thing I thought of when Mike answered

2413
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 9: that question today was Claire and how much how excited

2414
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 9: about Mike Rabel talking so passionately about I mean, if

2415
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 9: there's one position that you would stake a mortgage payment

2416
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 9: on them taken, I think after that it would have

2417
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 9: to be tight end.

2418
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 3: Like at some point.

2419
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 5: He's going to throw a fit if they don't.

2420
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be pissed they don't take that.

2421
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 5: It does feel though, like he kind of feels like,

2422
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 5: you know, he could have played tight end. Like it

2423
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 5: feels like he likes sort of touchdowns. Yeah, like he

2424
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 5: loves tight ends because he kind of thinks.

2425
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 2: He he could have played it.

2426
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 5: You know, it is a tight end.

2427
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 10: Play a little tight end. Yeah, A little bit of

2428
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 10: that got some tuddies.

2429
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 5: Watch my blocking tape.

2430
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 2: Dana Virginia in Michigan talking about the super Bowl and

2431
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 2: scheduling it. Having the super Bowl on the weekend at

2432
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 2: President's Day makes sense in terms of the whole getting

2433
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 2: the next day off thing. In the absence of that switch, However,

2434
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 2: is there a reason that the super Bowl isn't played

2435
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,919
Speaker 2: on Saturday rather than Sunday. If it's played on Saturday,

2436
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 2: then the next day is already a day off for

2437
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 2: most people.

2438
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 5: Football's played on Sunday professional football.

2439
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:43,719
Speaker 9: But now it's also played on Saturday and Thursday and Friday, Wednesday, Monday.

2440
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 9: But I think that's a reasonable Yeah, the NFL days,

2441
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 9: why not. I think that originally they probably looked at

2442
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 9: it as that was not as good a day. Ratings wise,

2443
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 9: the Saturday is not as good a market, just like

2444
01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 9: use sports and stuff. But I think all that stuff

2445
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 9: is out the window now. If you put Super Bowl

2446
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 9: Sunday on Saturday, I don't think the red rating would

2447
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 9: change one eye.

2448
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 4: Or change youth sports. As for May being ready for

2449
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,679
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, it might help if.

2450
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 9: They're more youth sports on Saturdays than Sundays. I don't know,

2451
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 9: is there I don't know, Mike, you you have to

2452
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 9: have to officiate in this game.

2453
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 10: Youth hockey, they're just there every day right.

2454
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 4: As for May being ready for the Super Bowl, it

2455
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 4: might help if McDaniels is ready to make some adjustments

2456
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:28,839
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, such as a tight end chipping

2457
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 4: a D lineman, which worked when McDaniels bothered to use

2458
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 4: it against the Seahawks.

2459
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 9: I'm getting tired of the Josh hate the Josh bashing.

2460
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 9: That's about the second or third one today. Yeah, Like

2461
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 9: you know, I think Todd in North Carolina says this

2462
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 9: is the right fit, right for May, Like, look what

2463
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 9: happened to the offense, So we're just automatically assuming everything

2464
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 9: that happened bad to the offense was Josh's fault.

2465
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2466
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,560
Speaker 4: McDaniel's performance in the Super Bowl was like a lifeguard

2467
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 4: seeing someone drowning, and all that lifeguard did was keep

2468
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 4: yelling swim better. I don't know, Josh, maybe try throwing

2469
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 4: may or Campbell a life ring or send out a

2470
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 4: boat or something.

2471
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 5: I don't know. We're two months away, like remove from this.

2472
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 5: It's I've already said my piece about the Super Bowl.

2473
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,719
Speaker 9: Is it possible that he gave him all the information

2474
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 9: that he possibly could have and he just didn't, you know,

2475
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 9: apply it to what was going on.

2476
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 5: The conversations that were going on on that sideline of

2477
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 5: what can we possibly do? And they you know, I

2478
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:30,440
Speaker 5: know that you get into it and it gets complicated.

2479
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 5: You know, it's like, well, if we do that, then

2480
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 5: we can't do this, and if we help over here,

2481
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 5: then we're you know, we're this over there. What we're

2482
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 5: trying to do over here isn't going to work. And

2483
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 5: then this, you know, how about the house.

2484
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 10: We can't block them, we can't do anything. I mean, like,

2485
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 10: that's kind of the root of a.

2486
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 9: Lot of how you're supposed to recognize that they're not

2487
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 9: getting blocked and you're supposed to no where to go

2488
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 9: with the ball, Or how about the receivers recognizing, Hey,

2489
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 9: our offensive line is having a hard time. I'm going

2490
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 9: to need to get open a little bit quicker than

2491
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 9: I normally and give Drake a place to go.

2492
01:49:59,200 --> 01:49:59,679
Speaker 10: With the ball.

2493
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:02,839
Speaker 9: I think that they are a little bit limited personnel

2494
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 9: wise on offense. I don't think it's a finished product.

2495
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 9: That's why I'm a little concerned about the receiver position.

2496
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 9: Back to square one. All the draft talk that Mike

2497
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 9: and Evan have been doing for weeks now. Is a

2498
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 9: wide receiver, you know, provided that they don't get aj Brown,

2499
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 9: is wide receiver at the top of the list or

2500
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 9: is it still edge?

2501
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think they need more weapons.

2502
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I think you need to take another swing, Like

2503
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 5: when in the top one hundred, I don't know when

2504
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 5: if first second third round is a good question, and

2505
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 5: you know, what type of receivers is obviously another good question.

2506
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 5: But if AJ Brown is not coming here, then you

2507
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 5: need to take another swing. And that that's just you know,

2508
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like the whole Super Bowl thing. We

2509
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 5: dissected the Super Bowl back in February, Like, there were

2510
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 5: things that I thought that they could have done differently,

2511
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 5: you know in that game that might have helped, might

2512
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 5: have worked. You know, it's easy to sit here and

2513
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 5: say it in hindsight that that that might have been

2514
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 5: the case. Like, I don't know if we have to,

2515
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 5: but I'm with you in terms of the Josh stuff.

2516
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy did just win Assistant Coach of

2517
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 5: the Year in the NFL.

2518
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 4: If Drake hadn't thrown that interception and they had actually

2519
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 4: scored on that drive to go within one score, do you.

2520
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:13,919
Speaker 2: Think the Patriots had a shot to win that game.

2521
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 3: If they're within one score with whatever eight minutes less?

2522
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 12: Sure?

2523
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I just would have liked to have

2524
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 6: seen some pressure on Darnold. It was you know, I

2525
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 6: think he.

2526
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 3: Got away with got you know, and they got closed

2527
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 3: he means pressure.

2528
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sure, I mean you saw early on, there

2529
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 6: were some you know, just misses, so but you never

2530
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 6: could get him into that place, I'd say right now,

2531
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 6: and I'm always been an AJ Brown fan, I would

2532
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 6: just say, as this is dragged on, I'm a little

2533
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 6: bit more of a fan of drafting a guy top

2534
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 6: seventy five, first second round, developing it and you know,

2535
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 6: having a guy for the long term. And I you know,

2536
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 6: I won't be sad if AJ Brown does happen. I

2537
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 6: would feel okay about it if they get a good

2538
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 6: deal for him. But there's part of me when I

2539
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 6: look at the long term health of the depth chart.

2540
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 6: You have long term needs at this position. So even

2541
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 6: if you get Antonio Brown, you're getting two years out

2542
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 6: of him. I mean maybe, you know, maybe, and what

2543
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 6: level Probably pretty good, but is it a digs thing?

2544
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 6: And then in two years now we're going back to

2545
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 6: the market to try to trade.

2546
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 4: Like Paul said, you have to build underneath him, and

2547
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 4: you're the alternative I would I would prefer, But your

2548
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 4: alternative is best case scenario.

2549
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 9: I want to take a guy in the top seventy

2550
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 9: five and develop him in Yeah, and so.

2551
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 3: He's the no, no, no, he's the guy. Yeah, I'd rather

2552
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 3: have that than AJ Brown.

2553
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's but hard.

2554
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 5: You know, when when's the last time they've done that.

2555
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 3: I rather have AJ Brown than Kyle Williams. Yeah, you know,

2556
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 3: just to.

2557
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 10: Use I would agree with you on that. Yeah, that's

2558
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 10: I don't know if it's just fatigue for me.

2559
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's just like because we're talking

2560
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 6: to people of the draft party, there are something. I

2561
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 6: was talking to a couple of like you know, young

2562
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 6: podcasters types like us, and they're like, I'm not talking

2563
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 6: about him anymore, Like I'm just sick of it, Like

2564
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 6: I you know, if he comes, great, but if not,

2565
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 6: I'm done, Like I can't do it anymore, you know,

2566
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,600
Speaker 6: like people are like appleplectic and I mean, I you know,

2567
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 6: I get it.

2568
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:02,680
Speaker 10: We take calls all the time. I think some of

2569
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 10: our callers have felt like that too. So I don't know.

2570
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 10: And again, like I love a J.

2571
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 2: Brown.

2572
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 6: I just he's always been my kind of guy and

2573
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 6: the kind of receiver I like. But you know, the

2574
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 6: more that you wait that it's harder to just keep

2575
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 6: waiting on one person.

2576
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 9: If the choice is between a veteran like a J.

2577
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 9: Brown and a good young receiver I'll take the good

2578
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 9: young receiver. Yes, I mean that's it's just which line.

2579
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 6: That's not the way it works, you know, dobbson brazl

2580
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 6: and I like, there's something cool to me about.

2581
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 9: My box, something about if Brale can play Jalen polp Risk.

2582
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 9: I know, like that's you know, that's the hard part.

2583
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 9: Like to Evan's point, that's why that's how the big

2584
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 9: boys get paid and that's why they're on the team.

2585
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not.

2586
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 4: Karen from London, Evan loved your mock draft from start

2587
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 4: to finish. That would be an ideal situation, a rather

2588
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 4: dream scenario. If our draft ended up like that, I'd

2589
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 4: be a static But I suspect some of the players

2590
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 4: will end up going higher, like Derek Moore will probably

2591
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 4: go slightly higher in the second round in Oscar delp

2592
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 4: who we may have to slightly trade up.

2593
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:07,440
Speaker 2: For in the third round to get him.

2594
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 5: You want to know what my biggest So your mock

2595
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 5: was unrealistic, just like drafting. Do you want to know

2596
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 5: what my biggest pet peeve is is? Oh, he won't

2597
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 5: be there. Okay, so you've called all thirty two teams

2598
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 5: and you know where they have My favorite on the board.

2599
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 9: Delk Oscar Oscar Delp. Yeah, it won't be in the

2600
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 9: third round. You'll have to Okay. So now we're like

2601
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 9: one hundred picks into the draft and we're four. You know,

2602
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 9: I get it, Kenyan Sadik. We want him at thirty one,

2603
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 9: probably not going to be there at thirty one. I

2604
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 9: think that's more of a realistic He's not going to

2605
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 9: be there at thirty one. But once you get beyond

2606
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 9: you know, a round or two. Yeah, I mean, who's

2607
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 9: to say anybody thinks your Sanders are going to be available?

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01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 2: And that's thinking of him.

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01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 10: Strange was going at twenty second overall.

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01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 5: That's why. And I sometimes I think about even just

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01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 5: writing this at the top, like it's a ballpark, right,

2612
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 5: Like I if they have to move up five spots

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01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 5: to take off Delping, so they've drafted them at ninety

2614
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 5: instead of like maybe they would have to do.

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01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 4: They don't think the Patriots just you know, stacking our

2616
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 4: board the way they do and horizontal.

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01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 2: It's a dream. This is how we would love it

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01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 2: to fall. It probably won't, but this is how we

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01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 2: would love it to fall.

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01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 5: Right, So, like, you know, I try to be realistic

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01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 5: I try to be in the ballpark, you know.

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01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: But got that? Did you get that?

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01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 5: Can I see it? Am? I like, if it's going

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01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 5: to be our board, then you know there's.

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01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 4: Some people, you know, even on the coaching staff, don't

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01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 4: see that.

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01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if it's if it's we, who's that?

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01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 3: Who's the coach that said? What are we thinking about?

2629
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 2: You got loose slips? You you can't your own get

2630
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 2: out of here? Eric in Rochester will end with this email.

2631
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 2: After reading Evan and Mike's mock drafts, it got me thinking,

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01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 2: is the team better now than.

2633
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 4: It was when it played in the Super Bowl in February?

2634
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 4: Free agency seemed mostly to be replacing players that ended

2635
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 4: up leaving, giving us mostly the equivalent player than the

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01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 4: one we let go.

2637
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 2: I understand that right tackle is.

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01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 4: The need for the almost immediate future, But how can

2639
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,839
Speaker 4: the Patriots work the draft to provide the biggest injection

2640
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 4: of talent to the team so they can keep competing

2641
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 4: in the playoffs? Should they double dip at certain positions,

2642
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 4: possibly try and trade up, or even work some trades

2643
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:16,640
Speaker 4: to get some more picks?

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01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 2: Well? Do you do you agree with his premise that

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01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 2: all they've done is replace players with equivalent players.

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01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 9: Not completely, but yeah, I think they've improved in some

2647
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 9: spots and they've probably gotten worse than others. I think

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01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 9: the premise is I would say it's rational.

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01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I just I think at some point

2650
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 6: your young core that is under contract has to pick

2651
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 6: up the mantle and be the guys that determine how

2652
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 6: good or not you are. And if every year you're

2653
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 6: just looking to free agency to boost your every year,

2654
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 6: like you know, I mean, we are still there, but

2655
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 6: hopefully not for you know, next year. Where all right,

2656
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 6: now you really have a core to build around, and

2657
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 6: you know it's not wholesale replacements every single year you

2658
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 6: have you know that it's your draft.

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01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 9: Well, you've got guys with the free agent It's like

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01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 9: Dreimond Jones might be better than Chase On Yeah, no,

2661
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 9: he might not be. Like right now, I think fire

2662
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 9: it's better than Jalen Hawkins, but like I think Sarah

2663
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 9: Tucker's better than is better than Jared Wilson.

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01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 5: But if we chalk all those guys than Wilson to

2665
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 5: kind of like washes right in terms of those positions,

2666
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 5: I they try to get tougher offensively I think that

2667
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 5: that's pretty clear. Gilliam and I don't care for Julian Hill,

2668
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 5: you know, high paid guard in Baratt Tucker. Like they're

2669
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 5: trying to be more physical, be a better run running team.

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01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 5: Rabel said it today. He wants it more consistent. We're consistent.

2671
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 5: You know, they had these big plays that Trevion would hit,

2672
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 5: but they wanted to be more consistent out running the football.

2673
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 5: You know, those types of things.

2674
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 2: But when they know we're going to run, we want

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01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 2: to run anyway.

2676
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 5: But you know that the Dicks for Dobbs thing is

2677
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 5: what still stands out like a sore thumb, like if

2678
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 5: he's not as good as Stefan Diggs, then they're not

2679
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 5: as good.

2680
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 2: All Right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

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01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:00,040
Speaker 2: Patriots and Filter Cash twenty two.

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01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 5: Tomorrow noon noon. Yes, okay, we're gonna do a So

2683
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 5: we did a roster reset where we went through all

2684
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 5: the positions on offense and defense. Last week. Barth goes, well,

2685
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 5: we're gonna do special teams, right, and I was like,

2686
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 5: I wasn't planning on it, to be honest with you.

2687
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 5: And so tomorrow we're doing special teams because he's making

2688
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 5: us do special do tune in for that.

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01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, and Freddie, you and I get to welcome Mike

2690
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 9: do So into the Hall of Fame Nomination Committee meeting

2691
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 9: tomorrow first time. Yeah, we've got that at the newest

2692
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 9: member of the Patriots.

2693
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 10: Mike behave you.

2694
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 2: You are a rookie, So rookies aren't allowed to.

2695
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 9: Talk to talk, but we're supposed to bring donuts, right,

2696
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 9: talk about feeling left all right, and we.

2697
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 2: Will see you on Thursday.

2698
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 10: Hey, this is Matis. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:49,120
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01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:51,680
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01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:54,200
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2702
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:56,400
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2703
01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:58,160
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Speaker 10: Thanks a lot, a