1 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, what up, y'all? This is sat Yoe, it's 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: your boy Jaden kiss. You know what it is that 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: Joe and Jaden show, every show legendary, every show icony. 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: This is the evergreen version of both of those. Let 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: me tell you something, the biggest in the motherfucking globe. 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: Don't let nobody fuck and tell you anything else. We 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: got everybody back paddling, everybody changing up. 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 3: How they doing? 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: You know these podcasts, they're changing up telling stories now 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: about the time, like they're changing the whole swagging their ship. 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: But they still got dingy black T shirts on. They 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: ain't got the fly ship on. Sure they ain't throwing 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: that ship on. Jay Jada, I ran, I ran, it's 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: you on Fifth Avenue the over there, the cars just pass. 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: You know, he was doing a little browsing, spend a 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: couple of thousands. I love that shit. You love it? Huh? 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: I love it too. Every time I got a little 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: extra dollar, I just want to go. You know what 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Get fly, get fresh. 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's my shit right there. 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: Joe and Jada, we dictating the whole podcast game. If 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: we listen to your record it's your new single. If 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: we talk that shit, it is what it is. Viral mania, man, 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: I mean, this is what it is. I just like 25 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: to be relevant, talk about shit that means something to somebody. 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: When you got top dead or alive, Top five dead 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: or alive, and you got Joe Crackhead. 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: Oh you fucking can't lose. 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Can't lose, And so today we want to do whateveren 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: meaning you know, we don't need a guess, we don't 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: need none of that tell you the truth. Some of 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: our well, we love all our guests. For some of 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: our greatest shows have been just me and you discussing 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: hip hop. Because we've been around since day one. You 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: know I was you know you've been around. 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: Since day No, No, I've been around. I've been since 37 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: day three or four. You've been. I've been around since 38 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: day two you think two? Right, since yay two? Day one. 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: I was just a kid, the baby watching him do it. 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: But I watched him do it. Ruby Deeve grew up 41 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: around the corner. First Latino MC. He was shot down 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: the blot. No, no, he was in Fantastic Romantic five 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 2: shot Rock. 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: The first female MC. 45 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: What's the name of the legendary movie Man, wild Stuff, 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Wow Stuff, Movie Di is in that and they battling 47 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: with Charlie Chase and Cold Crush, grand Master Cas and them. 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ruby D's in there. 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to take my neighborhood, Melly Male, 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: grand Master Flash, all of them. 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 3: You know, I felt like, guys. 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: Wasn't doing this right, like we you know, what is 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 2: the reason why when we watched and t You see 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, you see Shaquille O'Neill, you see Kenny Smith. 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: These are all legendary figures that have been through everything 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: in the basketball game. So I said, yo, me and 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Jada got to get into this. The subject we came 58 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: up with today, it's a legendary subject. Is artists other 59 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: religious argument another religious Hey, that's what it's about. You know, 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: me growing up even more than growing up, even when 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: I was in the streets, we would break night just 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: argueing about who's the greatest rapper, who got the best bars, 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: who got shot out? 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: My boys shop. 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: We used to go to one forty eight and he 66 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: used to like day and to day and I used 67 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: to like slick Rick. That's just normal shit in the hoods. 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 2: So today I don't think it's a debate or nothing 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: like that. But we're thinking about the best debut albums 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: from an artist. 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Whoa best debut albums from an art artist, not groups artists, 72 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: not artists. 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: It could be whatever, but it's really really it could 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: be grouped. It's my art and being forever. You could 75 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: be here. 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: We can be here forever because Illmatic might be the 77 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: best piece of art ever made in hip hop records. 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: Nas Illmatic pure hip hop that tates my life. What 79 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: was it like? It was written better? 80 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: You know, I got which the barber says the same thing, 81 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: which the barber says the same I did. 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: Something to my soul, but it was written did something 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: to my blood stream. 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: That's the second album. It was feel like it was written. 85 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: It was like it to me, Illmatic just just changed 86 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: the whole game, change how everybody was rapping. You know, 87 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Na's coming from a legendary project like Query under mc 88 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: shan and Mally mal and all these guys, and then 89 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: it gave you a modern day glimpse at the time 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: of what Queensbridge was about. And so to me, you know, 91 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: well that's crazy because you know I got some friends 92 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: who say, man, but I ain't King of Rat the 93 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: King of Rock debut album nineteen eighty four. 94 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: King of Rock, Run DMC taught us how to dress. 95 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: Uh, they with the Blazers, with their didas they had 96 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: the first endorsement ever. 97 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: You know what doors that come back. 98 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is I remember when we get 99 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: the fiftieth anniversary in Yankee Stadium. I felt like they 100 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: did him wrong because they made them close even though 101 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: it's run DMC, because it was like late. 102 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: They started like two in the morning. 103 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Took that show down to two days and one day 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: should have been been No ainybody happened? I agree, boy, 105 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: I gotta wait there, Audien. I mean man, when Rudy 106 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: was on the show, I was on the sprint watching it. 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: When run DMC came out and it was like the 108 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: Kings of Raw. 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: You knew that this was like you two rolling Stones, 110 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: the Legends of All Legends, the Blueprint that this on 111 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: on and on on. I was watching it like a 112 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: little kid. I performed already. I went upstairs with my family. 113 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, this is unlike I can't believe. 114 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: Oh they made music like this, and I could tell you. 115 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 2: I was in junior high school and at the time 116 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: the Treacherous Three, they had that lights. Camera asked me 117 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: cool with the ax shunk come come up, and everybody 118 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: was rocking to dad at a talent show. I was 119 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: at a talent show, you know. I sung John Hall 120 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: and what is it? John Alles? I sung on stage 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: she only come out and not the meaning now only 122 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: eye nothing could do. 123 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: I've seen it say it before. 124 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, everybody's dancing hip hop and three girls. 125 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: All the crack Hall the track Junior High, Junior High. 126 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: I think you almost had to join the talent show. 127 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: I did a talent show. Yeah, I think it was 128 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: part of the curriculum. And man, these three girls came 129 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 2: on and they and they told the DJ to play 130 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: and they played that. It's like that, and that's the 131 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: way I watched hundreds of kids and the Bronx created 132 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: hip hop. 133 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't know any other way to explain it to you. 134 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: They was not ready to give it to any other 135 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: borough or whatever. When that shit came on, I watched 136 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: all the kids in the whole Junior High look at 137 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: each other life. 138 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: It was like an alien. It was like AI with 139 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: some new shit. 140 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: Everybody looked at each other life Oh it's sofa and 141 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: these are the new kings of hip hop. 142 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: It was one play. 143 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: The whole auditorium was like, oh my god, what's this? 144 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: So Run DMC definitely they cracked in the whole, the whole. 145 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: I don't think me and you have a TV. 146 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: We don't have a podcast right now. If it ain't 147 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: for Run DMC, I don't think we got nothing. They 148 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: took this game to the next level. 149 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: It ain't from who else you're thinking about, Biggie Damn Productions. 150 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: Man, criminal Minded came nineteen eighty seven. 151 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: But. 152 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: You talking, I wasn't even going there like that teacher 153 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: staying in the Bronx. 154 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: No, Run DMC made. 155 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: It on a higher level when you talk about street 156 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven was a fucking crazy year. It was crazy, right, 157 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 2: holy criminal minded, criminal minded? You know care uss one 158 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: sucked us in horse shit all right? 159 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, swa whoa who. 160 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: He got us on the cover looking like Malcolm X 161 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: with a machine gun. But at the same time he 162 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: was kicking consciousness and the music. The first time I 163 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: ever heard consciousness in music was criminal Minded, you know. 164 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: And uh him, Scott LeBrock, you know the story behind him. 165 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: He was homeless, and then they became the biggest and 166 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: they represented my borough. For me, I was willing to 167 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: die for care Us One that didn't even know him, 168 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: just felt like he was my idol. He was the icon, 169 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: he was the he was the Hercules of the Bronx 170 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: and uh South Bronx. I remember I was in Courtland 171 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: Avenue and the DJ came and said, we got a 172 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: new artist. 173 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: It was care Less One. 174 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: He was this skinny He had a Bob Marley T 175 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: shirt on across the hat. He did the South Bronx. 176 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: By the time he did the South Bronx, he did 177 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: it twice. By the time he did it again, the 178 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: whole block party was going South Bros South South Bral. 179 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: So it was like a one listen and the next 180 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: thing you know, that ship was crazy, criminal minded. To me, 181 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: one of the greatest albums ever made the hip Hop Records. 182 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: But of course one billion percent I'm biased. 183 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna take it this long Island kill bum 184 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: rushed the show, Public Enemy Man, Public Endemia Flavor, the 185 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: S one W Terminator Act. 186 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: He should have had the first sunglasses. 187 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Deal you wearing those glasses right now because the Terminator acts, Nigga, 188 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: you ain't bullshit. 189 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: Terminator Acts should have had the first class deal. 190 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you at the first averageing Flavor Flag 191 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: the first reality showed to me, Flavor Flave was just 192 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: it's so weird because Chuck Chalking all this black militant, 193 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: all this, and Flavor Flavors nine one one to joke 194 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: like he's just Flavor was like the funny guy from 195 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: the block and the two. It's almost like fat Joe 196 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: and Jaden like nobody thought. No, I'm not saying I'll 197 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: be Flave. I don't got a problem. I love Flavor flav. 198 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: The point I'm saying to you is our dynamics. Somebody 199 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: could have looked at this podcast to begin with it 200 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: at oh no, no way, Jaden's Joe gonna work. But 201 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: somehow the chemistry is perfect. You got Chuck d h 202 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: talking as ship and then you got Flavor Flave, who's 203 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: really a bug out and but we love him. 204 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: He got his own dance, his own ship and so on. 205 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: They just kicked in the door for black consciousness and 206 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: they birthed I think I want to say they birthed everybody, 207 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: like the Paul Righteous Teachers, that all the groups that 208 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: came out after them preaching the message consciousness. But their 209 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: beats was ridiculous. The beats who did the beats again. 210 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: For the for Tink shocked leading the. 211 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: I Ain't shocked leading a bomb squad did Ice Cubes 212 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: album too after he had when he. 213 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: Came over, he came overhead the long Noland. They came 214 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: going in too much, going too fast. I'm going too fast. 215 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck the lissen you're. 216 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: In nineteen right now, we skipped it and we just 217 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: doing like tutorials of we got away from what we 218 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: was told. 219 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: You know what I think. 220 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: I think you have a timeline and I'm fried, like 221 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: I'm fried. 222 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: No, look my ship twenty twenty five, shite seven, my 223 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: shit off being rock Kiem nineteen eighty seven. 224 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: Man paid the full nigg we can stop right here, 225 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: paid it in full. Do you know how. 226 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: Credible that them real ups in that fucking jail, them 227 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: pull ups. 228 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: Sniggas left and then yeah, they. 229 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: Taught you, you say to fuck with them jail niggas 230 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: in the gym. Them nigga got you tortured. Right now, 231 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: you got about a week fracture you'll be good at 232 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: And we the small Asian lady. Oh my okay, oh 233 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: you hot Rocks sounds like the good ship and. 234 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: They ship like that old you Hot Rocks rescue. 235 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean pay the full change the game, tap it 236 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: damn jackets, big truck, crazy ship that can lock the 237 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: store up with ropes. 238 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: Rose Royce at least Rose Royices. Yeah, early when you do. 239 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: Old fashion, he had that Rose roycees early ahead of 240 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: time doing shit. They had the whole Brooklyn with him, 241 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: Killer Ben for Fourth Green, Supreme Magnetics, the fifty second, 242 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: the original stick Up Kid. 243 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: I mean they came with Crazy our fifth endto that Yo. 244 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: They came with the whole package and the music. Some 245 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: people do rocking the best of all time. 246 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: They don't know that it was Eric Bee's record deal 247 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: and they put him with Rock Him. 248 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: Eric B had the deal. That's why I never understood 249 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: that it's not Rock Him and Eric B. 250 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well the DJ was always Jadsey, Jeffing Fresh, Prince 251 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: Back at that time. 252 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: It was Grand Master of Flash and the Furious Five. 253 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: You B had to deal with you. 254 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: What I heard from them is Eric B had the 255 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: record deal and they went and put him with Rock. 256 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, man, they put him with 257 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: the best. Hell, that's another one of them. Joe and 258 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Jada they put, they put to make this work, and 259 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,359 Speaker 1: they worked fucking tremendous. 260 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: You know, I think I got my whole ice grilled 261 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: from every B when Eric B used to be like No, 262 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm telling Eric B is. 263 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: The first nigga that was Dead series and hip hopis 264 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: the ice crill. Whenever I never forget, I shot my shot. 265 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: I shot Pun's first video, right, it's Ray Kwan me Nori, 266 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: and I threw on the sky Blue shoot and I 267 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: slipped behind Pun Punk was wrapping you on my dollar dollar, 268 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: and I got this ice grill. And the whole time 269 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm telling them, I'm like, yo, this the Eric B. 270 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: It's a remember I got to be Eric Beat. You know, 271 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: he used to stand with Ray rock Kim. I had 272 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: to be Fat Joe the rapper when Pun Rap I 273 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: could be Eric B. So I'm standing back there with 274 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: the ice grill like dalling Darling bab Man. And then 275 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: and then and then and then changed our lives. Who 276 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: else you got on the list nineteen eighty eight. 277 00:15:53,360 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: Straight out of company. Whoay, some boys came fucking spress yourself. 278 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: They came talking that crazy shit. Man. 279 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: You want to know where I was at when I 280 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: first heard NWA count I was in one twenty fifth 281 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: and Dapper Dan, and that shit came up on there 282 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: on video music box. And when I tell you, it 283 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: was noisy. Everybody was doing anything. The whole fucking place 284 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: stopped in silence and looked up at the screen. Was 285 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: like and easy, and the niggas had the flame throwers 286 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: and they went fuck coughed and they won it for 287 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: the copsters. Anybody who was there, it changed their life 288 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: right then and there. Me as a rapper around that time, 289 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: I was thinking about getting into rap. They let me 290 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: know you could rap about anything. Fuck the police, don't matter, 291 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: just don't bite. It's the world. Like they was doing 292 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: shit that nobody else was doing, so they like transformed 293 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: me as a I never forget yet. After I discovered 294 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: NW eight, I was in my aunt's not my aunt's, 295 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: my grandmother's house at Washington. I wrote a rhyme and 296 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: the rhyme completely turned into fuck you suck my dick, 297 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: your mother, this that, this, this, this like the influence 298 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: because we had never seen nobody running from the cops. 299 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 2: We had never seen nobody saying fuck the police. We 300 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: never we heard stories like the message, Grandmaster Flash and 301 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: Furious Five. We heard songs like that, but we never 302 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: seen somebody dedicate a whole classic album to that. And 303 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: you see the careers that spawned off. You got Doctor Drake, 304 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: some say the greatest producer of all time. You got 305 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: mc wren, you got ice Cube, you got easy E, 306 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: all these guys, Yo, DJ Yeller, all these guys. They 307 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: had DC around the top board. DC was one of 308 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 2: my favorites. Man, oh my god, the form you look. 309 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: But you know the we got Dre beats because of 310 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: that ship. You know what I'm saying. So the legs 311 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: and the people they put in the game. You know, 312 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: no Doctor Dre, no Eminem, no Doctor Dre, no fifty cent, 313 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: no game. 314 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: Like that whole album, just like Snoop dog poun Snoop. 315 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: Dog Pound, like Doggy styt Doggy Style gotta be on 316 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: this list. 317 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: I'm jumping ahead of time here. 318 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: You got it, you in the time caps. I do 319 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: not know your list, you know, lies ahead of which. 320 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: I'm going off the top. There's a free style straight 321 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: out of Compton. Can't be next to Doggy Staff, No, no, 322 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 3: it's way earlier. They are soul Man nineteen eighty nine. 323 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: Pot Holes in my refeeding rise, pot holes in my before. 324 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit younger, so you know what I mean. 325 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So they Soul had gangster guys like me 326 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: that was running blocks, that was doing all type of 327 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: wild shit, playing boom boom boom answering service. I cal 328 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: say this sorockerty and a man abody like I knew. 329 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: I knew I was an asshole. 330 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: I remember driving into Benz looking at dudes ice, grilling 331 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: them and and playing. 332 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: Answering service like I say that Paraga. They had to 333 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: be yo these guys all the way. Lose these guys. 334 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: It's crazy. Day O Soul start started that whole preppyat college, 335 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: Daisy Age. I believe they started all that Queen Latifa 336 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: mony love jutip, the native tongue thing. I want to say, 337 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: could be it could be a trial court quest. Well, 338 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: I want to say that all brought all that ship 339 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: to give her. The first time I seen kids being 340 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: in classrooms and videos and being nice guys. 341 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't just I got it made. 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They had the first like audio 381 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: like them drums and snazz was hitting. 382 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: That shit was crazy, y'all. 383 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: I might have played that album one thousand times, bro 384 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: two thousand when Biggie says, well tape pop till my 385 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: tape pop that ship. That album was such a work 386 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: of art q Tip Fifth Dog Five Dog was one 387 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: of my favorite rappers. Although he was simple, he was 388 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: one of my favorite rappers ever in the history and 389 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: what they started tryp coll Quest. To this day musically, 390 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: I believe we should act some producers that to this day, 391 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: I think producers study uh that first album and and 392 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: how they put that ship and they were so futuristic. 393 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: They had guys doing the robot voices back then, this 394 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: and this and that. 395 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: Like they they they was far ahead of their time. 396 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: Salute q Tail in nineteen ninety one, man. 397 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: Ali Shahib Scarface, mister Scarface, who the fucking fred. 398 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: So Scarfaces before the Ghetto Boys because I got the 399 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: album as the class. 400 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: Oh shit, I missed it. Ghetto Boys is nineteen eighty nine. Okay, 401 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: rip it on that other level Boom other than Kang King, 402 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: the Kompang Them Bang Ticket thing Coman. 403 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: Bang that Ain't mind playing Can't Sleep now that that's 404 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: on that album, that first album. That song alone changed 405 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: my life and let us know that there was guys 406 00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: in the South. 407 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: Kicking gangs the shit. 408 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: Everything cinematically from the videos to the music, it was crazy. 409 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: I remember what's the video with Scarfaces? The girls count money. 410 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: He goes in her bron pulls out the money like 411 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: she stole the money. You know what I'm saying in 412 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: the video, I mean Scarface is every rapper's favorite rapper. 413 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: He's jay Z's favorite and reacts him. You know what 414 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 415 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: Besides Big Scarface, him and the ghetto boys, Willie D. 416 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: Bushwick Bill. I used to hang out with Bushwick Bill. 417 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: Yes, man, I've been around a long time. 418 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: Maybe the Fever. It might have been the fever. I'm 419 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: the first guy took Scarface in the Bronx. I took 420 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: her to the projects. He was like, you guys live 421 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: like this because you know, Texas even to this day, 422 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: is all spread out. He couldn't believe that we had 423 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 2: twenty floors of dudes living in the jets. 424 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: I took him to the Wedge, the Wedger Hunts Point. 425 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a ghetto new at that time, I 426 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: was straight ghetto, So you wasn't gonna get nothing but 427 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: ghetto from me. I'll never forget. He asked me a 428 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: Biggie song came on. What the first biggie sold? He 429 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: was like, Yo, who's that guy? 430 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: Man? 431 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: I like Biggie Swans It's like, Yo, he's fire. He 432 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: was like, yeah that guy dope. You know what I'm saying. So, Uh, 433 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: the ghetto, the ghetto boys, you know, shout out Jay Prince. 434 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: You know, we always try to shout out Texas, Bappo Loot, 435 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: they independent game, Houston, Dallas, Houston, Dallas. I just came 436 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: from that North. 437 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: Worth, San Antonio, Austin nineteen ninety one. Then now it's 438 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: mister Scarface nineteen ninety one. Scollfaces back. 439 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: That's what that came. 440 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: Scarface is back. What the what kind of impacts call 441 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: Face had to you? Was you too young? 442 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: Or it was around yourn we I mean heard of 443 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: the Ghetto Boys first, then Face, and it seemed like 444 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: he just gravitated to to what I was doing and 445 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. 446 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 3: Well, man, he's some of the besize the ghetto boys. 447 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 3: Some of the first ships we've seen from Houston for 448 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: me was Scarface video. He's legend that mister mister Scarface. Huh. 449 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: You know what happened with that album right there? 450 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: I think it was the first time I went down, 451 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: uh to the atl and you remember, ah, what is 452 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: it New Jack City? Remember the Brown Scared Girl dancing 453 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: to I want to say, ask you up that shit? 454 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: Never like a man. 455 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: I fell in love with that song from that girl 456 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: dancing and that she was like Keisha from Belly the Girl. 457 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: Remember even they was fighting over she had the red 458 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: sinin Man. You remember that I went in the atl 459 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: Strip Club for the first time and there was some 460 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: girl up there dancing to that mister, mister scarface. I 461 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: drove back to New York that song ten thousand times 462 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: just thinking about that girl dancing to that shit. And 463 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: that's how influence you. We watched like videos and shit 464 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 2: like that. You might love a visual and then you 465 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: start to gravitate and love that song. 466 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: Shout out the scarf face. 467 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Another one in nineteen ninety one, Tupac Apocalypse. 468 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: Now, I don't really know too much about that one. 469 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very early. You know, we talked about 470 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: the greatest debut albums. You know what I'm saying, so 471 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: too Tupac. You know all lives on me. All that 472 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: other work was more prolific than the first album. Now, 473 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: I can tell you much. What was on the first album. 474 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: Brenda's Got a. 475 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: Baby Apocalypse now is the first Brenda Got a Baby? 476 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: You know that was that think I could have did 477 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: that stop? 478 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: You know Brenda's got a baby, was like very all 479 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: it resonated. You know, my projects are saying a lot 480 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: of ship man I've. 481 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: Seen on telling me seeing a baby in the golf. 482 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: What I'm gonna tell you is that I watched dudes 483 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: jump off the roof on angel dust though y no 484 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: of the day, somebody was on dust jumped off the roof. 485 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: Damn he's still doing that. How about this, somebody in Yo? 486 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: What kind of day is this? Somebody went outside the 487 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: smoke a cigarette. Somebody jumped off the roof and landed on. 488 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: Joe. What kind of comment? 489 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Yo? 490 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: Yo yo? That's yo, yo, yo yo. That's your cat show. Yo. 491 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: Let me go to let me go blow a bogie 492 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: with a person. So he's done too right? Double dead? 493 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: No way, Holy shit, I heard everything I think you 494 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: ever think about. 495 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: When they say the plane crash, that shit. 496 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: Really fall down on somebody house and motherfucker, imagine you 497 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: in your house and a plane full of you gone, 498 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: that's it a play? 499 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: What kind of fucking luck is that? Double dad? Who's 500 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: he your hearst? Who's he your hearst? Leave you? Double dad? Huh? 501 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm a bubblehead. I never listened to nothing. My mama said, Yo, what. 502 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you is that that was happening 503 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: in the hood, that girls couldn't come home, unfortunately and 504 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: tell their parents they were pregnant. They would do the 505 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: baby leaving the Chinese spiders. We're not telling them to 506 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: do that. We never said that was right, but they 507 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: was doing that. That's what Brenda Got a Baby was about. 508 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: Poor Brundon sh nineteen ninety two man UGK two all 509 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: to swallow, rest in peace, PIMC shout out to my 510 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: brother bun gonna be gunn In the UGK. 511 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: Story from the Yeah, I was there when Pimpsy got 512 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: locked up in the Ati. He pulled the choppers out 513 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: the chart he was about to shoot the place, and 514 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: I was there at the boxing match. 515 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Pimpsy was different. He's uh. He was one 516 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: of them guys just don't give a fuck. And if he. 517 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: If he felt the way about you, he tell you 518 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: right to your face right there and now he really 519 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: I used to really see him walking around with white 520 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: furs and ship like that, like the video. 521 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: It was like a pimp. 522 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: He was Pimpsy and he was, and he's far from 523 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: pussy and if you fucked with him, he was gonna 524 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: do what he had to do. 525 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: What you got next, brother nineteen ninety two, Why are 526 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: we going through the years? Man? Just call out the 527 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: most of it. You get too what I do now? 528 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god, he should be fucking punished. 529 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: Guy who sent this stupid ass our pack. 530 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: He put his greatest debuts on there. 531 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: That's why everything it fucked those just sums that he 532 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: believes his greatest debut. 533 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: Yea while, we y'all ain't touching that man like I'm 534 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: touching no on slicks. 535 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: It's great event. 536 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: Rickis definitely your great Adventures is slick Rickets by far 537 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: one of the greatest greatest albums of all fucking times. 538 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: I don't give up in any genre of music, not 539 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: even just rap, in music in general. Mollotle fuckers. 540 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: I was living in a crackhead hotel. I came out, 541 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: true story, left my mother's house when I was like fourteen. 542 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: House do the same day. So most disrespectful shit you 543 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: can think of in the world. Imagine your kid leaves 544 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: your house at fourteen. You look out the window. He's 545 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: selling crack that ass an hour lady, he's outside like 546 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: little Joey is outside. And although I used to act 547 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 2: tough for my age group, I had to actually sleep 548 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: in the crackhead hotel. It was like thirty five dollars 549 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: for the night. When I tell you they was busting 550 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: dudes heads open with forty ounces all night, or your 551 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: hurt was the cops wee weird they busting dudes heads open. 552 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: I opened my hotel door and women were shooting heroin 553 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: in the aide apidemic. 554 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: Open the door, they shooting dope in my face. 555 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I'm staying here by myself and all I'm playing 556 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: is Slick Rick music in my headphones to get me 557 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: through the night. And so he gave me the courage 558 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: to even just make it to the next day and 559 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: get back on my shit. So even though I was 560 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: living that type of life, I was terrified. Slick Rick's 561 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: music is what got me through that time. What else 562 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: you got for me? 563 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: Brother? 564 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: You don't even want to have nine from me on. 565 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: So I did not say anumatic way too. 566 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Early ships out. I mean, it ain't e many of 567 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: that time. It ain't no timeline REASONA moved out. Okay, 568 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: I want to say shot Shorty fucking black Moon into 569 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: the stages, fucking lazy. 570 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 3: What it did for me, the flows, their meeting, the flow. 571 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: Anything into the stage is one of the greatest debuts. 572 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: Is his debut. Yeah, that's his first album. We're going there. 573 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: We gotta go to the original. We gotta go to 574 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: Gangstar uh his freemo. What's their first album? Ship Jesus Christ, 575 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: Gangstar Yo Primo one of the greatest producers of all time. 576 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: Him Gurgle gul to me was like a professor. 577 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: He was like a Malcolm X said hip hop. 578 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: He was talking that shit, that consciousness, but in a 579 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: slick tone, way ahead of his time. Let me tell you, 580 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to the South. I'm gonna say 581 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: ourcast Southern playerlistic. This is what we hear about outcast 582 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: is Southern player. This is the first time I ever 583 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: saw them videos in the backwoods and all that. We 584 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: had some brothers in the ATL putting it down who 585 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: love hip hop. That was like real pure hip hop 586 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: too as well, and that started we think about all 587 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: the shit that ATL brought After that, they kicked that 588 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: bitch off. Then we get the Goodie Marb and everything else. 589 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: We Southern playerlistic. I want to go to Juvenile's four 590 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: hundred degrees. You heard they mentioned the versus, Yeah, cash 591 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: money and no limit. Juvenile four hundred degrees. 592 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: Album was great. 593 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: That whole movement when they came out just took the 594 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: world a storm. 595 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: They pronunciation of words, this everything. They shifted ship, he 596 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 3: shifted ship, shut out. The Jude Jewry is still active. 597 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: I know them all over the place, but we gotta 598 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: go out. Mob Deep first album, the first. 599 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: Album is not the infamous. If you're a real mob 600 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: Deep thing, it's not the first month ha ha. That 601 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 3: ain't their first What was their first? 602 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: Sonyle? Hell, this is their first album. How is the 603 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: Little Kids juvenile? 604 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: Hell? They was little, they was young. They don't make 605 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 3: the listing because they the first two going off album. Yeah, 606 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 3: they debut album is Juvenile. Hell the debute to the 607 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 3: world on better. So they can't make that. But the 608 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: Infamous still the infamous. 609 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: To the word they throw out the Holy girl hip hop, 610 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: Infamous is holy. 611 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: Some people say the best album ever made. Some people 612 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: say that I drove around like a couple of months 613 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: ago with Rich the Barber. He knew every word and 614 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: we just drove around with ice grilled people. We just 615 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: on our shit. We felt tight grilled people, y'all. We 616 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: felt tough. But that ain't their debut, So that's not 617 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: what we're talking about. We're talking about the debut. We're 618 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: talking about your man DMX. Hell Hell is sh shit. 619 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 3: Dazy, and a lot of that shit is all old. 620 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: How about that he came out so five million with 621 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: old rhymes. 622 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: That's crazy because I get mad at people. 623 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: Who want to bring back old shit, Like I'll be 624 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 2: like yo getting the studio work right now. 625 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: He took records in rhymes that I heard him, so 626 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: he heard him before years before the world and it's 627 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: still with five wasn't the same beat, wasn't the same 628 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: rhymes though, it was not all of them, just a 629 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: nice percentage of that first album. 630 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: We heard it before in Wio. It was still powerful. 631 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: And what was that like to see him? I mean, 632 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: you know you're around. 633 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: He was already a yaw, was already like he was 634 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: already a star in Wyo. 635 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: In every hood. When he come through, it was he 636 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: can put on. Yeah. 637 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: He used to do shows in the school twelve and 638 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: he had a big battle. He had an infamous battle. 639 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: He had two battles, but one of them is more 640 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: better than all with another with another iconic dude rapper 641 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: from Wyo, Bill Blast Mega Blast, and then. 642 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: Had a big battle. It was crazy. 643 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: That ship was over like five in the morning. Everybody 644 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: spent the night at my house. Almost got my ass 645 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: killed because my moms came. You was out there, everybody 646 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: you was watching. I couldn't miss that. That was part 647 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: of I rather did anything than I missed that shit. 648 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: I don't care what the kind to Quincy's was. You 649 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: couldn't miss that of you was for a while. Actually 650 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: they get paint staff versus DMX. 651 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She was dope, man. She 652 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 3: was history and wild. 653 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: You know, big punk Capital Punishment on my executive producer debut, 654 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: I feel like Pum was ahead of his time. A 655 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: lot of those guys that we got featured on this 656 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 2: album and all that was like they came on the. 657 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 3: Strength of me. They didn't even know who Pum was. 658 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: But I also knew that the minute I pressed play 659 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 2: and they started hearing the music that they were gonna 660 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: want to get on the album. So everybody you hear 661 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: on that Capital Punishment album, they came most of them 662 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 2: even thought they was doing songs with me. I was 663 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 2: already already had two albums out, and when they came, 664 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: I was like. 665 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 3: Now you got to hear my man and man. 666 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: That album was speaking for itself since the first day 667 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: we went in there. It just kept getting better and 668 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: better and better, and then so on. The dream Shatterer 669 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: had to ill a beat before it was like a victory, 670 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: like a like a biggie victory. It was like the 671 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 2: beat was too fucking you don't A lot of minds 672 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: are known the state and it's all. It was crazy, 673 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 2: but it was just a beautiful joy effort. And you know, 674 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 2: first soloist Latino artists to sell two million records change 675 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: the game. I think we had ten thousand platinum parties. 676 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: Everywhere we went it was a platinum part then used 677 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: a brain. I think punt I had the same people 678 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: bringing the same platte. We'll be in the tunnel anywhere, yo, platinum, 679 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: start reincarnating the fucking platinum shit. 680 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: You know he was. 681 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: He was witty, He was incredible lyrically phenomenal, and he 682 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: puts some hits out the park Man that capital punishment 683 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: when it sets off with that, I gave you fair 684 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 2: warning and man, and you know what's crazy is being 685 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 2: that I'm part of this album. You know, it's hard 686 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: for me to be from the outside there. I always 687 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 2: wondered what rappers felt like when they heard Pun's first 688 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: album and you here, they'll beware, and what that felt 689 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 2: like when you press play on that thing. 690 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 3: No, I really knew what was going on with Pun Man. 691 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: Pun was on the first Man Pun albums came out together, 692 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: my first album in Capitol Punishment. 693 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: We was on a lot of promo together. Back then. 694 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: They would you know, the labels with he was on 695 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: planes together. That's the first time I seen somebody with 696 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: an extra buckle, an extra seat belt. Pun with the 697 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: first person that he get on, they give him a 698 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: stend though, and he's sitting on me O Jaya. They 699 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: gotta give me the thing. 700 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: Me, that's some that's just ill. 701 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: He get on the handle of an extra stendo seat 702 00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: belt buckle. 703 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew Pun was my nigga. You know what 704 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: I mean? We had Pun was that nigga man. I 705 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: used to be there. 706 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: He used to be snapping on you, snapping on DJI rock. 707 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 3: Pun was crazy. 708 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: Iraq was the best. He's up upstate. Your man Pun. 709 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 2: We did the Apollo around this time, and we went 710 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 2: and got We went five thousand and one. We got 711 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: the match in first. We had like the gray Furst 712 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: and inside and set big Pun inside and said, fat Joe, 713 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure somebody got that somewhere, and I ain't gonna 714 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: lie to Apollo. Gave us like twenty thousand dollars. That 715 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: was a big deal. When I was doing flow, Joe 716 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 2: was getting five hundred. Show your man Pun, we get. 717 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 2: That's the first money we ever got like that. Twenty 718 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 2: thousand dollars brand pack. I never forget. Evro was there, 719 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: Your man Pun. Dig in his pockets and throw the 720 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: whole twenty grand in the crowd. No, I wanted my 721 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 2: two thousand, and I wanted my tent. I almost jumped 722 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: in the crowd after the money. I'm standing next to him. 723 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 2: It's like, fuck, daddy, throw the money. We just spent 724 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: ten thousand on furs. I'm like, yo, I try to 725 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 2: jump back in there and grab the buddy. 726 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: It was over. 727 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: He was a true rockstar, Like we seen the gout 728 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: the game yesterday. He was a ridy riddy piper. He 729 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 2: was a Rick Flair. He was a rioty ridy piper, 730 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: real flag. 731 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 3: He was an artist artist. You know. 732 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 2: He would pull up the DMX album signing in a 733 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: limo and start throwing a hundred dollars bills at dmxis 734 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: fans and his crowd. Like he was just different. I'm 735 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: gonna go, you know, I'm always all over the play. 736 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Woo tag thirty six chambers. 737 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was at that's another world shifter. Nine dudes 738 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: from shouting nine. 739 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 2: I thought it was like thirty thirteen thirteen of them, right, 740 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 2: it's nine. 741 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: Originals, might be one hundred add on docus bro. 742 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 3: I almost smacked my son one time. He did. 743 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 2: He did the back. But this back in the days. 744 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 2: He's a grown man now. But I asked him when 745 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: he was like fourteen to fifteen, Yo, give me all 746 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 2: the members of Woo Tank couldn't say they man, I 747 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: was about the small. 748 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 3: I was like, yo, ma, man I smacked his ship 749 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 3: out of you. You don't know that all the members 750 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 3: of Woo tight, No, that was very thing. He got it. 751 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: They shifted the world off or something like, Yo, I 752 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 2: was dumb tight. 753 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: None members shall in different slang, adding other karate flicks 754 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: they just took over the world. The Rizer production. That 755 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: ship was like a breath of fresh aird to to 756 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: the hip hop culture that I mean. And then they 757 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: just planted mad Seeds with Math, Ghost Ray, Dirty, Jesu 758 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: rizzor spect the deck. That probably nothing like that to 759 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: ever be done ever again. God it is to make 760 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: nine seven and a half eight stars solo, but nine 761 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: stars together, the new. 762 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: Edition of hip Hop facts that they all went on 763 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 2: to sell millions of records solo. You know, to this day, 764 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: I got people who argue about ghost Face. You know, 765 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 2: he might be the greatest. His first album might be 766 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 2: the greatest. I mean, you got the you got the 767 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 2: Purple Tape, you got Ray Kwan, you got anything. 768 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 3: With anything meta. Man. 769 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I honestly used to think 770 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 2: that the greatest record ever made was his Sinning morn 771 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 2: in Blue. 772 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: I took it took me about a good fifteen years 773 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: to get up off that, huh, all I need. It 774 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: took me fifteen years to figure out, like, all right, 775 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, this might not be the greatest song ever made, 776 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: like I thought it was great. Yo. 777 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 2: They playing that shit anywhere that shit came on. It 778 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 2: was like the ten Son, like this is number one? 779 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 2: What about the first Brand Nubian debut that was knocked? 780 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: The Brand Nubian ship was crazy, No, no, no, Grand 781 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 2: Pooba was the best beat was crazy. The grand POOLA 782 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: was the best. Grand Poobab was the best. Grand Pool 783 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 2: Bos the only rapper I ever watched a whole entire 784 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 2: club this dancing doing the real shit. 785 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 3: It was that dance rap that the DJ said, brand 786 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 3: new Grandpoop. 787 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 2: I watched everybody go to the speaker stop dancing just 788 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 2: to hear what the fuck he was gonna? 789 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: Had that mean bars with the voice, with the cadence, 790 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: and he was told to one time me tell you me, 791 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: let me get your staf, let me tell you story. 792 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: So you got My wife got two brothers from a 793 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: father the older, and they had kids. 794 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 3: And they know they move around and live well. 795 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: One day one of the nieces came with us. They 796 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: came to our crib for the weekend, had a nice time. 797 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: Now it was time to bring her back on Sunday. 798 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: So it was like Sunday evening we get the new row. 799 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I'll walk in it's dark, you know 800 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'll take in. Actually, what door it is. 801 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: They bring me to the door. Hey thing done? 802 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 3: Open the door. It's poolba the wng door? Yo? Pool? 803 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 3: The kiss? What's up? Me? And she lived with them? 804 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: I got back in the car, like the fucking tell 805 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 1: me she lived with grand Pooba? 806 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 3: What was you gonna tell me? She wife? That was 807 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 3: his wife. He was, she was there. 808 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: He was the guardy guse his girl was was raising. 809 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying. 810 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: Well, they could at least told me Pool with my 811 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: answer to the door when you go there? 812 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 3: I took him. I'm like this, yo, what Grandpa like? Nah? 813 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 3: She lived here? Me? Pool? You know what's up? He's like, 814 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: what's up? That ship was he? You know? 815 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 2: Grand Pool Ball took a chance with me. You know 816 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 2: my first album shout out before that and the man 817 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 2: he showed up Jazzy j Studio eight. He kicked the 818 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 2: verse with me in Diamond. I don't know how I 819 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 2: meant Poolbar, but ever since we kicked it off, we 820 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 2: was family. We was friends. He shot the vide. He 821 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: can't he's in the flow Joe video. Grand Pool Bar 822 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 2: him got. 823 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 3: On especially from West shesteron poo Pool was that nigga? 824 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: All right? 825 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: Once again you're not You're not really trying to hear me, 826 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 2: because I've been saying I said it like two three times, 827 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: and you really like almost ignoring none of the best. 828 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 2: You know how, there's some guys out there that'll argue 829 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: with everybody talking about Jada Kiss Top five dead or live. 830 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: He's somebody's top five dead all live as he should. 831 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 2: He was the best brand football. Sit As my nigga 832 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 2: brought that ship to the table. Wow, low boys, wold cowboys, 833 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 2: you're bid sid As. He's one of my favorite rappers 834 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 2: at the time. I remember when Pootball who was that 835 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 2: Dante Ross? Somebody signed him over there at a lecture. 836 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 2: It's the biggest talk in the world. You know the 837 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 2: brand Nuggie mean sort. 838 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 3: But don't be gotten to me. You're wrong. That's where 839 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 3: it's supposed to be. Check it out now, check it 840 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 3: out now, shut. 841 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 1: Out the lord jam Yeah, okay, come on, don't go there. 842 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 3: Now go there because if we go there, you much. 843 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to say, fifty second, get Richard Doe Trup. 844 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 3: We turned it up real quick, jeez, Uni, we could 845 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 3: get the drama popa nigg that probably might be arguing 846 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 3: to be one of the debut. 847 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: That's like up there with Snoop fifty Sugars, up there 848 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: with with Doggy Style. 849 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: He asks me for the East. 850 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: Coast, for the world coast. They had the same kind 851 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: of effect as Doggy Style. 852 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: Man. 853 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: That ship was everywhere when he came out, some nigga 854 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: shit is semi everywhere, both of them. Ships was everywhere 855 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: every way you could think of white people everywhere, every commerce, 856 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: you every spring break, every. 857 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 3: You open your door, your window, you saw that ship. 858 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 3: It Richard I Try and Doggy. 859 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 2: Style imagine you got beef for them shortly after that, 860 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 2: and they playing that ship. It was beating up every 861 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 2: DJ allegedly did not play the shot. 862 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: The beef was beef niggas at beef for fifty was 863 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: at to get Richard Try. 864 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 3: Worked bad, No, no, really bad. 865 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 1: Still the residue it was the other album man, Biggie Bank. 866 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was down there, cool door for a little 867 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 3: it's not a lot on a little enough enough God. Yeah, 868 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 3: that was a different field that we don't play, that 869 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 3: we don't air around. 870 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 2: And when you create music, fifty cent was giving you 871 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 2: like three songs in one song, three different hit. 872 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,919 Speaker 3: It's crazy, bro. 873 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,720 Speaker 2: That album could have really been three albums, four olbls. 874 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 3: The way he was doing all that. Ship Ah to unit, 875 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 3: we don't play around. He was like, yo, it was. 876 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 2: Too easy for I don't know what kind of zone 877 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 2: he was in, but everything was too easy for me. 878 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: At the bars, he had the beats. He felt like 879 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 2: my back break was killing ship. 880 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 3: It's a difference. There's a difference between street park bars. 881 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 3: At your leisure. 882 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 2: You can have a nice pop you come and when 883 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 2: we see him in the videos, in the street part, 884 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 2: you can jump out and have a coconut. It's different 885 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 2: when you in jail doing bars. In the bars, just 886 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 2: what they. 887 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 3: Did to him. 888 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: He was trying to like to bet with them, and 889 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: then we ain't doing like him. 890 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 2: Don't do that two times. You ain't doing bars like 891 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 2: Jada kiss get at it. 892 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, the nigga doing well. He calling up like 893 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 3: this ship doing all type of shit. You ain't doing 894 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 3: all that. Don't don't stop. Please. Just because you did 895 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 3: jail time don't mean you know how to do that. 896 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 2: They don't know how you pedal the bike. I'm not 897 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 2: don't do that. Jay Z reasonable doubt. 898 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 3: Crazy, crazy, crazy shit crazy. He taught me right because 899 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 3: I was a street dude. Man, I was a street dude, but. 900 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: I didn't really so much really get into like the 901 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: business dawn drug shit to like my second album, the 902 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: first album was I Stick You Up, I Smacked You Up, 903 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 1: you know, all that type of shit. 904 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 3: But that reason of booed. 905 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: Oubt showed me you could talk like like I could 906 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: real my live, my real life music. 907 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm listening to shit and I felt like it was 908 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 2: my life. I felt like, yo, you could rap about 909 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 2: your life and music. So in videos, I'm wearing the 910 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 2: Army fatigues, but I'm going to my man's party with 911 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: the sky blue suit on, with the gators, with the 912 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 2: this this, this Now, we could rap about it and 913 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 2: put it in the video and do that. 914 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 3: I felt like Reason that moved out did that for me. 915 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 2: And I remember driving back and forth from New York 916 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 2: to Miami just playing that one album. 917 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 3: Back to back to back to back. 918 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: Uh, that's another one right after Illmatic. That kind of 919 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 2: changed my life to where it was like, all right, 920 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: if you're gonna wrap this where you need to be, 921 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: you need to talk more about your life. 922 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 3: If you need to talk that shit, you need to die. 923 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 2: That that pushed me more towards me being the Don 924 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 2: Cardajina Like publicly, I was already the Don Carda Gina 925 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 2: behind the scene, but publicly it said you can do this. 926 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,760 Speaker 2: And I don't know what the fuck Onyx first album 927 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 2: was with them two they changed fat Joe's whole life 928 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 2: because I just pick a up dad one shot. I 929 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck up? Onyx unsung heroes. Some 930 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 2: of the greatest music I ever heard was Onyx. 931 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: Sticky just sent me so I steel not all lats 932 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: right now twenty twenty five. 933 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 3: He sent me saying, are you listening to me? Sticky? 934 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 3: Just send me a song. That's crazy, that'sh weak crazy. 935 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 3: Who had to pick beats? The beat is crazy? They 936 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,280 Speaker 3: knew how to pick beats. 937 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: They had some mean one of them Onyx. I think 938 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: it's the second one. The beats on the second Onyx. 939 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 2: Album is some of the best. Trying to revisit those 940 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 2: ships great, Yo, huh Fradjoe. Nobody writes that Joe Robs 941 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 2: seen you and my brother I love you. I'll see 942 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 2: you on the video on the. 943 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,919 Speaker 3: He said this, he said, you know Joe got ghostwriters 944 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 3: this and that. Yo, You're delusional. 945 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 2: Nobody could write my life, write my rhymes, nothing like that, 946 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 2: and I love you. 947 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 3: Frajoel. 948 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 2: Frad Joel is a good guy. I've just picked you 949 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 2: up on another level. But by seeing you the only 950 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 2: person in history on the video talking about Yeah Joe, 951 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 2: you know Joe got please brother got me fucked up. 952 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 2: Thirty seven years of doing this ship, I do this 953 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 2: in my slate, but Fradie produced all that. Let me 954 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 2: tell you something. He's a genius. 955 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 3: Carolina. 956 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 2: Them guys, them guys different and they changed my life. 957 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 2: So Fred Joe, when you look at my interviews about you, 958 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 2: they always say you changed my life. 959 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 3: Dude. Documentary The Game? Crazy is that? 960 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 2: And how game is the first rapper that if you 961 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 2: didn't tell everybody says that a million times. 962 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:18,879 Speaker 3: But if you. 963 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 2: Didn't tell me he's from Compton, I would think he's 964 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 2: from New York. 965 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 3: He was the first, you know, the West Coast, they 966 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 3: got their own sound. 967 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: Heard he study of the first Compton nigga with a 968 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 1: Yankish flow, all the bronx, the Yankish flow. Looking up 969 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: Compton nigga with the Yukish flow. 970 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 2: I repeat, still New York yunk will grill no listen. 971 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 3: I agree with him what you want me to go? 972 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: Yonkers fucking locks of some of the greatest rappers ever lived. 973 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 3: I'm not disrespecting that. Who said that? Loo? 974 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 2: He said that he got a Yonker Slow, Okay, I'll 975 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 2: give you that. What I'm trying to say is Martin 976 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 2: new for had to dream? 977 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah dream? Hey did I love it? Crazy? 978 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: He had new clear missiles on on both hold document 979 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: to this day, first one with the debut though, is 980 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: a is a smoker? 981 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 3: No biking. Nobody in front the numbers. 982 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 2: The numbers prove it four or five million, right, I'm 983 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: gonna and nobody's saying ready to die her? 984 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 3: Niggas is over here playing around like ready, you're just 985 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 3: floating all over run. He's floating over it, stopped floating 986 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 3: for a minute. Ready to die? 987 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: Is He came in and twitched the old way niggas 988 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: was rapping back then. 989 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 4: Who be out Nigga small things? The whole entire rap 990 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 4: game just floating debut albums. His flow is cadence to 991 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 4: this day. Don't make sense. He died when he was 992 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 4: like twenty six, twenty seven. He only did two years 993 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 4: of damage and in fucking phenomenal. There's not a day 994 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 4: not a day in my blessed life that God has given. 995 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 2: Me that I do not hear Biggie Small song. What 996 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 2: he was able to do to take rap, underground music 997 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 2: and commercialize it changed my life, in every other rapper's life. 998 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 3: He was twenty four years old when he died, a 999 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 3: fucking baby. 1000 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: Twenty five or twenty six or twenty four, twenty four. 1001 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 3: Pac was twenty six, Oh it was Pac. Pac was 1002 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 3: young too, twenty six. 1003 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: But man twenty five and twenty four is crazy man 1004 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: to billy get in the club. 1005 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 3: I think that's some bullshit. But Biggie Small's to this day, 1006 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 3: his flows is Cadence. You know. 1007 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 2: I help get the song together with him and Bone 1008 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 2: Thugs in Harmony. 1009 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 3: That's another album. 1010 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 2: Look up the first Bone Thugs in Harmony first album, 1011 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 2: so thirty million records. 1012 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 3: He's nineteen ninety nine. For the love of money. 1013 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: Gotta get that money, baby, money, baby, gotta get that money. 1014 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 3: Baby. 1015 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 2: Let me tell you some boy, I miss my uncle Georgia. 1016 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: Call him George ms Buncle Georgia, Uncle Charles. Fuck with 1017 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 1: George ms Buncle George. At least yo, George, Uncle George. 1018 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 3: You know yo. Listen, now you go George. 1019 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 2: You know how you go to the hey, ain't meaning 1020 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 2: to be like, Hi, I'm Joe, I'm an alcoholic. It's 1021 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: like Hi, I'm fat, Joe, I'm a fuck up, I'm 1022 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 2: a bug out. I change all the words. That's why 1023 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a problem. 1024 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 3: Rich. We put it back, Rich toward back to me. 1025 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 2: You can't even memorize my own robs, so imagine memorizing 1026 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 2: your rhymes. 1027 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 3: Just somebody else round. 1028 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: I fuck everybody shit up, But I got that boning 1029 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: Biggie done. Biggie hit me up, said Joe, I want 1030 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 2: to rock with your man's. I know that your man's 1031 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 2: be on the same label. I'm hanging out with them 1032 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 2: every day. Then you had a relationship with Bob. I 1033 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 2: had to really really convince them, and I know to 1034 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 2: this day they're happy. I convinced them, and Steve Lobell 1035 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 2: brought them to the studio. The rest is history. With 1036 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 2: that bone in Biggie Biggie boner, and nobody in New 1037 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,959 Speaker 2: York was thinking about am in dangerous? Ain't too Minny, 1038 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 2: can't bang with us? 1039 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 3: Sing up? 1040 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 2: We know ain'tel us and Torios so co be with 1041 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 2: you know who this nobody was thinking about that flow 1042 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 2: at that time. When he did it, it was like, you know, 1043 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 2: big with somebody that's like you. 1044 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 3: I mean, damn man, we got a big this thing. 1045 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 3: I'm right over here, yea something saluted man. Biggie was 1046 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 3: like you in the very way of you never said 1047 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 3: a whack verse. 1048 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 2: So every time Biggie ku ryme on one twelve, he 1049 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 2: could rhyme on fucking. 1050 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 3: A girl's TLC shit whatever, it ain't not anything that 1051 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 3: we would listen to him. We would listen to the 1052 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 3: new verse. 1053 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 2: And be like, Damn, Biggie did it again. He was 1054 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 2: super nice. He did this and this and that. It 1055 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 2: was crazy. You know what I'm saying, b ig that 1056 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 2: ready to die. That ship to this day is one 1057 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 2: of my favorite uh you know what I mean? For 1058 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 2: the slave since for the same and the two Yo Biggie, 1059 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 2: I have my homies, total bust of shit. 1060 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Every record. 1061 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't just I don't know if it was a fan, 1062 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 2: but as a rapper, every verse similar to you, every 1063 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 2: verse Biggie ever spit, we would analyze it immediately be like, yo, 1064 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 2: he did this song with total you know everything. You'd 1065 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 2: be like, damn body, that ship again. It's not easy 1066 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 2: to body every single verse. You know Jady Kish, you 1067 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 2: know he's really good at that. You know what I'm saying. 1068 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 2: We be listening for every verse like, oh shit, Jenna 1069 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 2: gonna spit that ship right now? Who else you put 1070 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 2: in that in that category of every verse they have 1071 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 2: a spit, you would listen to it like, oh shit, 1072 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 2: he about to spit that ship. 1073 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 3: Huh, black thought, Black thought. It's superiorly nice. We all agree. 1074 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 2: Lauren's deput Tell me about Lauren Ill because I always 1075 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 2: mis education. 1076 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 3: She sided me bigger than all, Like, you got this education, 1077 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 1078 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Liker Hill, I got Lauren got the same birthday one. 1079 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 3: It's big up. That's it. We wont we ail like. 1080 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 3: Education is one of the most classical albums. They gave 1081 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 3: it the best album. I got the same burden Lauryn Hill. 1082 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 1: Three stacks somebody Lauryn Hill and three stacks mean we 1083 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: will share the same birthday. 1084 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 3: And I say more we ail like miss. 1085 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Edutainment of Laurence Hill, groundbreaking album phenomenal because she could 1086 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 2: sing incredible and she got the bass. 1087 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 3: I felt cheated as a hip hop fan. 1088 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 2: Then she retired so quick like, I think we would 1089 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 2: have had multiple albums of greatness. You know, I think 1090 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 2: we got wrong from Lauren Hill, you know, walking off 1091 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 2: the game because she would have had four or five 1092 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 2: classic albums. 1093 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 3: I can't see her making wax shit and definitely where 1094 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 3: she left the game at that time. Ah she was. 1095 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 3: She just still to this day, all these girls are great. 1096 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 3: I love them all. You know, Remy gets a little. 1097 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 2: Upset because she wants me to cheat and say Remy's 1098 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 2: the greatest. Can't nobody fuck with lawn Nell Lauryn Hills 1099 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 2: in the fucking lane of her home. 1100 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 3: Nobody. That's a fact. 1101 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 2: And so uh what Little Kim's first album that we're 1102 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 2: talking about? Females allcour crazy. Little Kim first album was 1103 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 2: crazy hardcore. Everybody shifted ss Amelia, that shifted. 1104 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 1: The way females wanted to present themselves after Little Kim, 1105 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Foxy first album, I know Nan crazy. 1106 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 2: You see Elliott for he our can't stand the Raves. 1107 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:08,479 Speaker 2: The Brat shit bout numbers than everybody funk the fat Yes, 1108 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 2: the fucking Brat was the first to crack open that gate. 1109 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 3: Harsh shit. She had real. 1110 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 2: Fans minus shit platinum, but uh, Foxy and kim Man. 1111 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 2: That's like Brandy Monica. That was a time, you know 1112 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 2: what I mean. I think you know, it's very hard 1113 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 2: for a man to really be bumping the girl's album 1114 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,440 Speaker 2: like that, driving in your car like the whole album, 1115 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 2: but riding around like you think you playing the shit 1116 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 2: and you got Foxy. 1117 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 3: You got Kim On. 1118 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Recently, I listened to that Cardi B album about ten 1119 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 2: twenty times. 1120 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 3: Cardi B, she got some balls of there better than dudes. 1121 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 3: It's it's really incredible the way they put that album together. Recently, 1122 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 3: Cardi B's album is phenom and the girls is eating 1123 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 3: it up. They hello, they going crazy the ship on Instagram. 1124 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm not comparing the album to Lauren Hill or Foxy 1125 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 2: or Kemn's Days Get. 1126 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 3: I ain't saying anyone, but I'm just saying, you got that, 1127 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 3: You got that Uncle Gredy eyes. You know what I'm saying. 1128 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 3: You just you giving me the eyes like wait, wait, wait, wait, 1129 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 3: wait wait wait, you're giving me that now. 1130 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm telling you an album right now, it's better than 1131 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 2: most guys in twenty twenty five. 1132 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 3: Cardi B got that ship right now. Let's see this, 1133 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 3: Ain't that that? 1134 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 2: Ain't this cracking kissing baskets bitch,