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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of fish Ology. I'm

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Speaker 1: always joined here today with Adam and Lewis who will

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Speaker 1: be talking about in this episode first baseman. So we'll

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Speaker 1: go back and last season talk about some first basement

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Speaker 1: from the Marlins, how they did, and really look into

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Speaker 1: who could be the starting first basement for the Marlins

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. As I mentioned, I'm here with

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Speaker 1: Adam and Lewis. Guys, how are we feeling about this episode?

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Speaker 2: It's definitely going to be interesting, lots of solid options

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Speaker 2: to look at them. Definitely looking forward to diving into

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Speaker 2: that conversation today.

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Speaker 1: All right, and starting off to lead off, let's go

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Speaker 1: back last season and talk about the only first baseman

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Speaker 1: who played more than fifty games for the Marlins who

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Speaker 1: is still on the team, and that is all Star

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Speaker 1: Garrett Cooper. Garrett Cooper had an All star season, had

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Speaker 1: a really great June, posting one of the largest ops's

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Speaker 1: for the Marlins during that month. Finished off a little slow,

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Speaker 1: was switched in between first base and DH with his

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Speaker 1: Suss Aguilar, but then shared time with Lanwin Diaz when

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Speaker 1: he was brought up. Adam, let me get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: first on Garrett Cooper and what you saw him during

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Speaker 1: his time as first baseman for the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: Right, so this earlier this year, he was performing pretty

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Speaker 2: well up until the All Star break where he kind

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Speaker 3: One nobody out and now Garrett Cooper down the line.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna one off the wall, Kurbi's around third, He's

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Speaker 3: gonna score and ershit being held at third base. Another

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Speaker 3: double for Garrett Cooper, and this game is time and one.

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Speaker 2: Garrett Cooper is just kind of that guy who the

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Speaker 2: Marlins were able to get from the Yankees a few

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Speaker 2: years ago, and he's actually just kind of turned into

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Speaker 2: a very good player, a very solid plug and play

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Speaker 2: option at first base. He's obviously nothing super special. He

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Speaker 2: not really that he was. Up to the All Star

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Speaker 2: other All Star options. But I do like Garrett Cooper

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Speaker 2: in the sense that he's just he provides some fringe

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Speaker 2: Groschan's type of prospect that is not insignificant. So he

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Speaker 2: does provide a lot of value, and especially you know,

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Speaker 2: I do believe some teams could see something in Garrett Cooper,

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Speaker 2: which is why I do like him. But regardless, as

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Speaker 2: and I think obviously unless he's not moved, it's his

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Speaker 2: So that's that's my opinion on him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've kind of just said he's like

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Speaker 4: an above at average Big leaguer as far as hitting goes.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like metrics, look at whether you use a

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Speaker 4: fourteen to about twenty percent above league average. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's he's only two years removed from abbreviated twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: I mean, so like the Thatt's there, I think defensively,

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Speaker 4: you know, what you see is what you get. He's

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Speaker 4: not exactly you know, out peek Abbert Pooles at first base.

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Speaker 4: He's kind of just like serviceable. But I mean at

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Speaker 4: much demand, but where I guess there's less expect expectations

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Speaker 4: as far as what you provide. Defensively, I think Cooper

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Speaker 4: you can do a lot worse than him. There's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and for the Marlins in first base, it was

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Speaker 1: really a revolving door between three guys. The Marlins did

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Speaker 1: the highest as I mentioned, Garrett Cooper with fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: Laywan Dias their time in Miami as first basement.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, you know the old analytic adage where

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Speaker 4: what the Marlins kind of had with their first base

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Speaker 4: more in the past. I mean, he did twelve percent

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Speaker 4: when it came to scoring runs. Yeah, there was definitely

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Speaker 4: Aggiar and Cooper were pretty much switching off most of

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Speaker 4: the time. They have shown they can be productive big leaguers.

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Speaker 4: I think, realistically, if you want to build a sustainable winner,

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Speaker 4: aren't necessarily guys you want there. I think they're complementary pieces.

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Speaker 4: Maybe as bench beats. I think that's where they're best service.

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Speaker 4: And maybe Cooper starts on a bad team. I guess

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam sim question with Aggie and Laywin. Laywin, who's

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Marlins can bring him back Aggie free agency.

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Speaker 1: Probably both guys most likely not coming back to the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was kind of interesting to see both

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Speaker 2: we saw some production from Aguilard in the past as

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Speaker 2: struggles obviously come at the play. He's a fantastic defensive

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Speaker 2: he would be like sabermetrically, probably the best defensive first

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Speaker 3: That is down the line and Laywood makes another slick

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Speaker 2: It's just unfortunate to see that his contact never really

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Speaker 2: But I just don't believe that Leywin could be the

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Speaker 2: But ideally you want to try to find a full

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Speaker 2: year long. He had some success with Milwaukee, was an

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Speaker 2: him go. And it's really this kind of the same issue.

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Speaker 2: There isn't a lot, There isn't a lot to work

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Speaker 2: I think Cooper is probably the best option going into

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Speaker 2: continue to add to that revolving door of options with

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Speaker 4: Adam said, Cooper is the most viable option. We haven't

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Speaker 4: really talked about LeBlanc possibly playing first base, especially when

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Speaker 4: less much lesser extent. Is kind of like jazz chism

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Speaker 4: but you also have two guys who have very weak arms.

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Speaker 4: On the defensive spectrum. I think maybe you could hide

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Speaker 3: This one is in the year to left field and

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Speaker 3: Lablanck goes deep bron Charles LeBlanc.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, you'd hope that they would kind

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Speaker 4: Marlins did have discussions with his team. There are hard

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Speaker 4: no reports at this time as to what their offer

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Speaker 4: think that, like the Marlins could literally go into twenty

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Speaker 4: where because LeBlanc was slightly encouraging or he was encouraging.

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Speaker 4: In twenty two, they could enter with another platoon of

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Speaker 4: LeBlanc and Cooper, and again, like, you're just kind of

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Speaker 4: when it comes to getting total production because you're splitting

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Speaker 4: I mean, if they were to enter with another platoon

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Speaker 4: just look at that collective six sixty five team. Ops.

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Speaker 4: about guys like JP Crawford, wit Merrifield, caber Uiz, Ramel Tapia, Pabier, Baiaz,

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Speaker 4: Kacius Aguiar, Gary Sanchez. These are all guys that ops

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Speaker 4: I think some team will pony up. I mean, if

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Speaker 4: Well, I've seen projections out there that he's going to

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Speaker 4: they do indicate that though you really need to go through,

432
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: you know, previous game logs to kind of get an idea.

433
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Maybe he's being said a couple of times, I'm sorry,

434
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe face Sandy all those times.

435
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that isn't going to help you there,

436
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 4: And maybe that's an indicator that like if you can't

437
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 4: even hit out contract, can you imagine and what he's

438
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 4: going to do against the shuser, although again we have

439
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: data a show what he can do against the sh

440
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: I mean they faced each other the last year, they

441
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 4: faced their last year, and you know, again I don't

442
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 4: have those numbers in front of me, but yeah, I

443
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: think there are things. These are things you have to consider. So,

444
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: I mean, like ballpark numbers, they mean something. I don't

445
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 4: think they mean everything, though, especially when you consider that

446
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 4: it's not a true indicator of the player's performer before.

447
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not a full sample size. I mean,

448
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you said how many pas? Was it

449
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: a loan depot this year for both Last year was

450
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: one thirteen, but this year probably Yeah.

451
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: His career is one thirteen. Last season at loan depot

452
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: thirty nine.

453
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two.

454
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, nine.

455
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's not a huge sample size. I

456
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 2: wouldn't I wouldn't stress too much about it. His overall

457
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: numbers look good, yeah, yeah, I mean this year especially. Yeah,

458
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: he also moved to San Diego, so that cut him

459
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: up opportunities because he's in the Western Division. Now, yeah,

460
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not too worried about it. I mean,

461
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: if he were to ever play in lone depot full time.

462
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure it would probably look more closer to his

463
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, his career average, if not as WRC plus

464
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 2: would take care of negating any sort of ballpark factors

465
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: that would come into it. But I mean, like, I

466
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: like Josh Bell, like he's a good player. Absolutely going

467
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: back quickly and making a note on this BAMTech. This

468
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: isn't the first time we've seen BAMTech in the news.

469
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: I remember that was a critical part of the Marlin

470
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: sale like five years ago. I remember seeing how much

471
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: money would be coming in as part of revenue sharing.

472
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 2: I think from that was critical and seeing okay, like,

473
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: well this makes sense for for us to buy the team.

474
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 2: I remember that was bam Tech was relevant back way

475
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: back when when the Marlins were being bought by the

476
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: Sherman company, Sherman and his company. So this is like,

477
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, seeing what kind of money be coming in here.

478
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, there's just I believe there are more

479
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: valuable and more efficient ways, more savvy ways I should

480
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: put to spend whatever capital comes in from that deal.

481
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: And I believe, like I mentioned, like you know, like

482
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: looking of an option up the middle would probably better,

483
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: would be born beneficiary for the Marlins. Then I think

484
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: maybe a corner infield just sense like it's just there's

485
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: so much the more that could go wrong, because if

486
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: you don't have the bat, you're not really accruing valley.

487
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: Because first base kind of naturally anchors you, whether there's

488
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: if you're playing shortstop or second base, or center field

489
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: or catcher for that matter, anywhere up the middle, really

490
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: anywhere else besides first space, you're kind of anchor at

491
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 2: a certain value that you really can't go anywhere less.

492
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: I should say, DH is the only one below first base,

493
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: but you're still you're still buoyed by your position, the

494
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: fact that it's much harder to play the other.

495
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: Ones around the diamond.

496
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 2: So I just think that, like, because we have so

497
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: many holes there, because shortstop accrues for so much value,

498
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: and so does center field they account for I should say,

499
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: those are huge gaping holes on our team that I

500
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: think if we filled, could easily propel the Marlin to

501
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: potentially being an eighty win team if they were to

502
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: address them wisely and correctly. You take that couple with

503
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: the return of Garcia and Solaire, who I do well,

504
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: I firmly believe will bounce back and they're not due

505
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: to have as poor seasons as they had this year,

506
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: their first year in Miami. I firmly believe they'll They

507
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: may not play as well as they have been in

508
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: their past, and with Solaire having that almost fifty home

509
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: run season and Garcia playing really well during the time

510
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: with the White Sox and the Brewers in twenty twenty one,

511
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: but I do believe that there is something there to

512
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: potentially be excited about. It's just the way, it's just

513
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: hard to continue that accitement because who knows what's going

514
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: to happen in a couple of years, where they might

515
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 2: just continue to tear the team down if it's not

516
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: working out super well, or even.

517
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Then if it is.

518
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: But it's just I do like leywin, but just in

519
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: rent ending my rant, I would say that there's just

520
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: better ways to spend that, and I think it would

521
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: be better us, like up the middle somewhere.

522
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I shouldn't have. I was taught. The last thing

523
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: I'll say about Josh Bell as I talked about him

524
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: facing Max Suers or in the if you were in

525
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: our league, would be one thing. I mean, I just

526
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: pull up his numbers against Sures are sixteen played appearances,

527
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 4: four seventeen, five sixty three, nine seventeen A fourteen seventy

528
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: nine ops. So maybe facing Max Suers or would be

529
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: beneficial to him, But again, you know he'll get paid.

530
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think the Marlins will be the team.

531
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: To do it.

532
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: No, absolutely agree.

533
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: The next player up I wanted to mention, I want

534
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: to go down the list a little bit and talk

535
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: about mister Brandon Bell from the San Francisco Giants, Kevin's

536
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: favorite player of all time? Has has he talked about

537
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: him a bit? He battled some injury last season before

538
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: going season ending surgery on a right knee. He's thirty

539
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: five years old, he's ops. Wasn't really the best two one, three, three,

540
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: two six, three fifty in about three hundred pas last season.

541
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: Where do you guys see someone like Brenda Belt who

542
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: is up there with age but does have a history

543
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: of playing good baseball and really decent for his entire career.

544
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: How is Brendan Belt even transitioned to the Marlins and

545
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: what type of contract would he even be looking for

546
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: as a thirty five year old for his basement?

547
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 4: I think realistically, you can't expect anything beyond a one

548
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: year deal given what you said, Danny. The age, and

549
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 4: obviously he's coming off an injury. There isn't like a

550
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 4: Michael Confordo thing where he's you know, he'll be at

551
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: full strength hopefully, but you know, he didn't miss an

552
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: entire year, and in the year in which he did play,

553
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: he wasn't he wasn't necessarily his usual productive self, and

554
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: that was off off of two years where he was,

555
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: you know, sixty percent above league average. I mean like

556
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: he he had kind of just entered this like mid

557
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: thirties phase of just like offensive dominance, at least by

558
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: his standards and by most standards.

559
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: You know.

560
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: I talked earlier about guys like Aggie ar and Cooper

561
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: kind of being like I don't know, like named or

562
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: players that were blocking others from getting regular playing time

563
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: and at least others, I mean, like younger players. I

564
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: guess Belt would just be one of those like one

565
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: year to reestablish your value kind of deals, although I

566
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: don't know how much re value you're going to re

567
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: establish when you're thirty five years old. That being said,

568
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: I've been writing about and even just discussing the idea

569
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: of acquiring him for two years. Now, I think in

570
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: the midst of San Francisco's one hundred and seven wins season,

571
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: before I bought into, you know what they were doing

572
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: over there in the Bay Area about the possible idea

573
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: of like trading for him and maybe just being a

574
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: guy that you would have control for in twenty two

575
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: and dealing for prospect capital because I thought where he

576
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: was offensively and where I had thought that Giants would

577
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: have wound up at the end of twenty one wasn't

578
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: a match where he was going to stay there. So

579
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: I kind of figured that, like, if you acquired a

580
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: guy like that, and say the Marlins had struggled in

581
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: twenty two, he was a guy that because of the

582
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: recent track record and even the track record prior to

583
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: him just being an above average big leaguer or like

584
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: say like a more durable Garret Cooper, then you could

585
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: have gone out and dealt him and gotten something in return.

586
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: And I think that's maybe where I am now. I

587
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 4: think maybe in the short term, if the Marlins were

588
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: to sign a guy like this to say like a

589
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: one year, say twelve to fifteen million dollar deal, because

590
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: I think that's where he'll likely end up from an

591
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: AAV perspective. If he produces and the team as a

592
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: whole just doesn't perform to the way that at least

593
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: fans would expect or want them to perform, then he's

594
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: still a guy. Given his track record and given the

595
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: fat that he's a rental, he could still merit you

596
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: something at the deadline. And I think that's maybe, you know,

597
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: like what you know could realistically happen, And I think

598
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: maybe that's the expectation that you take in signing a

599
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: guy like that, although you know, like when you're trying

600
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: to establish a core, he doesn't fit that criterion. So

601
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: when you're ven diagram of like where do we see guys,

602
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: he's not a long term fixed but he's a temporary

603
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: guy who could give you, like a minor boost. He's

604
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 4: maybe like you know, Narcan if you overdose. He's like

605
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: the Marlins offensive Narcan for a short term. But that's

606
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: that's at least where I see him. Again. I love Belt,

607
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: I think he's an excellent player, and I think he's

608
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 4: aged relatively well, but you know what, I kind of

609
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: feel bad for the guy. Maybe I'd like to see

610
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: him go somewhere where he can tap more into the

611
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: power that he's always been touted for but has never

612
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: been able to fully access because he plays in a

613
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: cavernous Ballparker played in the Cavern's ballpark and said, since long.

614
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean last in twenty twenty one, he had twenty

615
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: nine home runs, which is a career high at thirty

616
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: four or thirty three years old. And that's think that

617
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: the Marlins also, you didn't get that first base would

618
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: also be great. And Adam talking about Brandon Belt, is

619
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: he also someone you could see signing if you have

620
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: a bounce back year. Maybe that's someone the Marlins I'm

621
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: looking for, like in a first basement for them that

622
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: can finally hit twenty plus home runs. It's been a

623
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: long time and the Marlins have even had that, especially

624
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: from first basement.

625
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I really like Brandon Belt in the sense

626
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: that he's a very He's one of the most advanced

627
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: pure like from a swing decision and approach perspective, he's

628
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: one of the most advanced hitters in all of baseball

629
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: from that perspective. From that regard, and he has been

630
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: for really his entire career. He's always been someone I

631
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: believe who knows what he's doing at the play, he

632
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: never really gets cheated on many at bats. The one

633
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: gripe I do have with Belt is the fact that

634
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: I believe he's had an injury pass and you know,

635
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: he hasn't played a full season, I believe in a while,

636
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: and I do think that, you know, if we can

637
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: get in for cheap, I believe he's a perfect bounce

638
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: back option in the same way that maybe someone like

639
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: a Matt Carpenter was signed by the Yankees and he

640
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: absolutely destroyed for the time. I'm not saying he's going

641
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: to be Matt Carpenter the same production, but it's a

642
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: similar idea because I think they're both very advanced staters.

643
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: I think Belt might be a better one, but Carpenter

644
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: is obviously more a better run producer. But it's that

645
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: same idea where you're just kind of taking a flyer

646
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: and a guy who was once you know, one of

647
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: the best in the league at his position, and you know,

648
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: obviously now his career is in the limelight, but maybe

649
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: he has one more last he has one last hurrah

650
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: before he.

651
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: Heads and you know, he rides off into the sunset

652
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: and one of.

653
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: A better places to do it in Miami, right, So, yeah, exactly,

654
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: So I think there it's just it's a good option

655
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: if we can get in for cheap. Like I mentioned,

656
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: he's still a first baseman, so if it's too expensive,

657
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: I would rather spend that money up the middle. But

658
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: if he is out there, and you know, if it's

659
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: early next year of spring and he's still in the market,

660
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: if we can, I'll get him for maybe like you know,

661
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: eight to ten million dollars, or maybe it might be

662
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: a little bit more than that. He might be gone.

663
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind taking a flyer in him because he's

664
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: a good player, and if it's like a for one

665
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: year deal, it really doesn't matter. So he can always

666
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: trade him too.

667
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the last time he played over one hundred

668
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: games was twenty nineteen. I believe he played one hundred

669
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: and fifty one hundred and fifty six games. So it's

670
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: been a little bit. He's played almost a full season.

671
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: And I know you guys mentioned about the parks the

672
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: ballparks numbers, but him at Loan Depot has been well.

673
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: He has been a good hitter at Loane Deepot Park. Again,

674
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: very small sample size eighty played appearances, but having an

675
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: eight six' eight ops and we also mentioned that he

676
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,959
Speaker 1: is an older, player so old that he also has

677
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: one game played At Sunlife stadium even Before Loan People.

678
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: Park he has one game of Sun life hitting two

679
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: home runs in one. Game so maybe he could do

680
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: that for The. Marlins BUT i also, think like you, Said,

681
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: adam they can get him someone eight to ten million

682
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: dollars for just a. YEAR i think it's good value

683
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: for someone Like Brandon belt again a, veteran a, leader

684
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: someone who could come in also show the younger guys

685
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: what it means to play first base and. Everything there

686
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: we Mentioned Brandon Jury. Lewis you showed me a list

687
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: and there are some NAMES i really wanted to talk

688
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: about from. That the last one you had there WAS.

689
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: Miguelsono miguelson no power, hitting was a. Player it will

690
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: Be MIGUELSON. O i have to know why you have

691
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: him on your? List is that someone you could see

692
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: The marlins grabbing it in free?

693
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 4: Agency, again it was a it was kind of just

694
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: a hierarchy of names THAT i felt like made the most.

695
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: SENSE i think when you talk about the Pre Thomas

696
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: Edison marlins offense and by THAT i mean the one

697
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: pre the one with like no, power right WHICH i

698
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: guess their biggest. Issue snow would address that if he's.

699
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: Healthy he's coming off a year where he got and

700
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: he played something like twenty games and had like seventy

701
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: played appearances and literally had an adjusted ops plus three

702
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 4: because he had an adjusted o ps of three forty.

703
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: Five you're gonna get a lot of. Strikeouts the defense

704
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 4: is not going to be. Good but you have a

705
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 4: guy who draws his walks and when he hits, him

706
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: he hits. Him he had like light tower. Power But

707
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 4: snow is one of those, guys you, know we kind

708
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: of just saw Yesterday Shelby miller signed a one, year

709
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: one and a half million dollar deal with The. Dodgers

710
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 4: where if you perform early in your, career there's maybe

711
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: that the teams have this in their, head they have

712
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 4: this idea of an expiration date that maybe hasn't, reached

713
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: that it hasn't reached, yet and that maybe you just

714
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 4: want to hatch you, know another bit of their, production

715
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: or at least like good production before they kind of

716
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: just fully dissipate and, become you, know nothing of value

717
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: from a performative. Standpoint so, NO i think maybe one

718
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: of those guys who fits into that category of, like,

719
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: hey we may there may be something. Left that's WHY

720
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 4: i had him at the bottom of my list because,

721
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: ONE i think he maybe be the. CHEAPEST i think

722
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 4: he'd even be cheaper Than duriel given that he's just kind,

723
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: of you, know been be set by injuries and the.

724
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 4: Inconsistencies but then, again he's got that one skill set

725
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: that's oh so attractive in a in a division like The.

726
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 4: ANALYS i, mean just imagining him hitting home runs in you,

727
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: know somewhere Like philadelphia would be, crazy but you, know be.

728
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 4: It give The marlins, power should he you, know give

729
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 4: him one hundred and thirty under forty? Games?

730
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

731
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: No so a guy Like Shelby miller was interesting because the.

732
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: VELOCITY i looked With miller BECAUSE i was, like why

733
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 2: is he back in the. League the velocity is still, there,

734
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: RIGHT i mean he threw seven innings this, year but,

735
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: like you don't need a million pitches to be able

736
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: to determine fastball velocity in your, max, Right so the

737
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: fact that he's still pumping ninety four or average on

738
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: his velocity as fastball was actually pretty cool to, see.

739
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: Well he was even that he was getting. Extension he

740
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: was getting. There he was the ninety eight percentile and,

741
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 4: EXTENSION i, Believe so that you, know that kind of

742
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 4: gives the illusion of a guy throwing. Harder we've seen

743
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 4: a guy Like kirshak who doesn't even throw all that hard.

744
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Gets, Yeah and that's What i've been trying to, Say,

745
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: like that's the Narrative i've been trying to push. That

746
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: even IF i got and like kind of alluding to

747
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: The eliezer, thing that's kind of a different. Thing but

748
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: it's just the fact that if the data is, there

749
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: if you collect a bunch of these, guys maybe not

750
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: one of them the individual would work, out but if

751
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: you collect a lot of, them maybe one of them

752
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: would work. Out so if you collected Ten Shelby Miller's

753
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: Elieza hernandez is eventually maybe one of them you could,

754
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: fix but the.

755
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Rest on work would.

756
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: Not but it's just the idea that the profile is

757
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: fixable right.

758
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: Off twenty one or right off twenty. Two for snow

759
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 4: in this, case since we're talking about first baseman and

760
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: he plays LIKE i, said he played twenty, GAMES i

761
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: mean you look at the, Data, adam he was in

762
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: the ninety eight percentile and eat max exit velow and

763
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: the ninety ninth and hard hit. Rate but he also strikes,

764
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 4: out you, know a, Lot so you know that in

765
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: itself if you really see twenty twenty one as the

766
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: last full season he, played obviously it is by his

767
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: standards because he's consistently been. Injured that's maybe the the

768
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 4: slightly alerting thing about. Him but continue with what you

769
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 4: were saying about, data because obviously we have data person

770
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: now to indicate that He, yeah Well i'm so incredibly. Productive.

771
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no that was no absolo for. Sure that was

772
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: just more of a side, tangent which regardless would fall

773
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: in line with what you're. Saying. ABSOLUTELY i MEAN i

774
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: would JUST i would be, cautious which would be, like, hey,

775
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: like you, know giving some know a chance given the

776
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: fact that he's probably got some of the Best Rob

777
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: howard numbers of any player In Major League baseball and professional,

778
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: BASEBALL i should, say it's just that you need to

779
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: be cautious with how much money you would be awarding

780
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: him for that and how much risk you're willing to

781
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: take based on the fact that he just cannot make contact. Whatsoever,

782
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: right he is a somewhat of a disciplined, hitter BUT

783
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: i just do like when you, swing he, swings the

784
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: bat is just you see the, path the plane isn't.

785
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: There the attack angle is just not. Optimal it's something

786
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: where it's going to need a lot of, refinement and

787
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: it hasn't been something where he's really been able to

788
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: address as a major. Leaguer so giving him a shot

789
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: on a flyer to maybe in a minor league deal

790
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 2: where if he makes the majors you pay him, SOMETHING

791
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: i would try to see.

792
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: IT i wouldn't. Mind but it's been three years and it's.

793
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: Been a full season of production and almost a full

794
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: stabilization rate of at bats and played appearances for his

795
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: average to really be something.

796
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: Poor.

797
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Now could he turn it?

798
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Around?

799
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: Maybe BUT i feel Like SnO is more bound for

800
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: an international league at this point more than he is

801
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: another opportunity to majors if he if he's not going

802
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: to be in a minor league, DEAL i JUST i.

803
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: WOULDN'T i personally wouldn't have, Him LIKE i personally don't

804
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: have a spot for him.

805
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: On my major league.

806
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 4: Team power to be one is on my list like.

807
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: Because it's just there's.

808
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: NOTHING i, mean you saw you have the thirty home,

809
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: runs but he's like.

810
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: A one win, player not even right because he provides Not.

811
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah there's just no there's no multi dimension, now and

812
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: it's hard to be multi dimensional when you're in first,

813
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: baseman which is why you are a first, baseman because

814
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: you lack the athleticism to play anywhere.

815
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 4: Else that were well the side when he came, UP

816
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: i mean like he had a power arm at a third,

817
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 4: base but yeah he.

818
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: Did but he's a Big, yeah he's just too big

819
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: to kind of feel the. Position he's a bigger. Guy

820
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: he was very very good earlier on in his, career

821
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: but he was always having an issue making contact with the,

822
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 2: ball AND i just his career than.

823
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: An issue for a long.

824
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: Time there's another GUY i want to talk, about not

825
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: primarily a first, baseman but someone who has played first

826
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: base quite a lot in his. CAREER i want to

827
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: talk a little bit About Will. Myers we know he's a,

828
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: nowtfielder but half of his stats and appearances do come

829
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: from first. Base is that's someone also that The marlins

830
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: could potentially look, at someone who has ties here To,

831
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: florida played with the played with The. Rays is he

832
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: someone that That marlins could bring, in try to bring in

833
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: there as a platoon guy in first, base maybe in now,

834
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: field can play multiple positions that The marlins. Like is

835
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: that someone that you could see land with The. Marlins

836
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: he had a one win, Season his batting average WAS

837
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: i believe in the two sixties had a seven seven thirteen.

838
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: Ops is that someone that The marlins really could bring?

839
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 4: On you know, What, Mars he's kind of like a

840
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: poor Man's donalds Or. Donaldson he's like a poor man's

841
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 4: fell in that. Regard if you look back at the

842
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: last three, years he's opsing about eight. Hundred he's a

843
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: one twenty two piece, Plus and maybe some of that

844
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: is slightly inflated by the fact that he was great

845
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: in the sixty GAME samp twenty twenty, Season so slightly.

846
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: INFLATED i think he's maybe more of like a league

847
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: average to maybe a slightly above league average. Hitter but,

848
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: again like if you go by twenty one to twenty two,

849
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 4: standards that's still far more productive than what The marlins are.

850
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: Getting LIKE i told you guys ahead of the. Show

851
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: since twenty, eighteen and that's really WHAT i would call

852
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 4: the commencement of The Jeter sherman era because that's the

853
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 4: first year Without, larea in the first year Without sampson

854
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 4: running the steering the. Ship The marlins are twenty seventh

855
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 4: in production BY ops from first baseman seven. Four so

856
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: that's like Getting. Ronald that's like Getting Randall gritchick for

857
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenty Through Randal ritchick for five years at the

858
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: position that's a seven to twenty four. Ops or it's

859
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: getting jerks and profis off and minus.

860
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: All of the.

861
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 4: Walks like that is the kind of. Play that's kind

862
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: of the offensive production you're. Getting, yeah if you look

863
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: At meyers, numbers, again he's a productive. Player do you

864
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 4: look at the averages, though and we have him on the.

865
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 4: SCREEN i know this is an audio. Medium you, know

866
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: he's averaging ninety three games the last three. Years but

867
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: again take out twenty, twenty and he's been, durable he's been.

868
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: VERSATILE i remember when he moved to first base around

869
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: the time he signed that extension with The, potters believe

870
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: it was like six years and eighty, million and he

871
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: looked pretty serviceable. There but the, POWER i don't think necessarily.

872
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: Translates so, again he proved that he could hit pretty

873
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: well In San. Diego so it's not the worst. Option and,

874
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 4: honestly if The marlins want to kind of like steer

875
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: on the side of, frugality which is something they're not

876
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: that averse, to not the worst. Option ALTHOUGH i know

877
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: he's Maybe i've heard he's maybe got some clubhouse. Issues

878
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 4: there was the controversy back When Andy green was the

879
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: manager that he was seen playing call of duty and

880
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 4: calling Out Andy, green and you, know maybe so maybe

881
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: there's just like a question with how he deals with.

882
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: Leadership but that was four years, ago so he could you,

883
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: know that could be on him at this. Point so,

884
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: yeah but that's actually an interesting name that you brought.

885
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 4: UP i, MEAN i wasn't even somebody THAT i thought,

886
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 4: of because obviously it's really.

887
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: Great in twenty seventeen was like the last time he

888
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: fully time full time played first base in twenty seventeen twenty,

889
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: Sixteen and if you just go by those two, numbers

890
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: those are the primarily times he played first. Base his

891
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: ops is seven ninety four a one to twelve ops plus. Two,

892
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: yeah he had some pretty good, numbers AND i think

893
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: that's not that, option and if they, want they can

894
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: always put him in now field if they ever need

895
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: someone like. THAT i Believe Will. Myers he's up there in,

896
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: age but he's not really that. Old he's thirty. Two

897
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: he's not someone like you, know we Mentioned yuli who's thirty.

898
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Nine Brendan belt is thirty five coming off. Injuries, Well

899
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: myers has just really just been platooned a lot. Recently

900
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: with The San diego he played almost one, fifteen twenty,

901
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: one nineteen one to fifty, five multiple, times playing over

902
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: at least one hundred and fifty. Games AND i Believe

903
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: Will myers is a sneaky option that The mormons really

904
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: can look.

905
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 5: At and maybe and BY drs every he's not necessarily

906
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: greted as a great, outfielder but BY drs he's actually

907
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 5: plus ten for his career first, Base so maybe you're

908
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 5: playing to a strength.

909
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: AGAIN i Know adam is not the biggest fan OF

910
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: uzr AND, drs but it is at least an indicator

911
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: that he may be better at those positions than he

912
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: is at roaming, outfields especially At cavern and his outfield

913
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: In San. Diego, Yeah, adam your thoughts On Will.

914
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: Myers i'd love to hear what you have to say About.

915
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: Myers, No AND i feel like Fish stripes in general

916
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 2: has been kind of tough On Will. Myers i'm actually

917
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: kind of more optimistic in, general just BECAUSE i think

918
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: he's a really good, hitter And i've always that he's

919
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: been one of the more underrated players In Major League

920
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: baseball during this, course during his time as A Major

921
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 2: league in the past ten, years we forget this guy

922
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: was a Former rookie of The year and a Former All.

923
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Star and he's. Capable, yeah he's capable of hitting twenty

924
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: five to thirty home runs when he's really on. It

925
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: AND i think he's Very he's a very talented, player

926
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: and he hasn't played a full. SEASON i think he's been,

927
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: injured and he's obviously sputting time platuning with some, very

928
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: very talented infielders In San. Diego BUT i still think

929
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: that if he were, to you, know, obviously if he

930
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: were to leave and find time on a you, know

931
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: not as good team to try to eventually be traded

932
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: onto a contender later on next year and down the,

933
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: ROAD i do believe That miami would be another pretty

934
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 2: good option AND i do believe he would actually provide

935
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: a lot of value during his time, here and if

936
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: he were The Marlins war to be contending in twenty

937
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: twenty three THAT i do think that he would state

938
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: staying around for that stretch run and potentially you, know

939
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: being part of something Special, miami if we're to come to.

940
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: That BUT i do Like Will, myers AND i do,

941
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: think you, know, like for, me out of all the

942
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: players that we've talked about so, far he's probably my,

943
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: favorite just because he's the most, safe at least right.

944
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: Now belt has had a very good career as, Well

945
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: BUT i think so, far like most, RECENTLY i do

946
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: like What Will myers brings to the, table AND i

947
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: think that he's probably the best option if we were

948
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 2: to spend money on a first.

949
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: Baseman he's a consistent two win, player and Again bell

950
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 4: could be. That bell is a, consistent you, know three win.

951
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: Player But myers would be, cheaper, yes for, caught for

952
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: dollars per war, perspective as far as getting a bang

953
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: for your buck, goes if you want to go thrift

954
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 4: shopping for a first, baseman then you kind of would

955
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: just do. That so, yeah it makes all the sense

956
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: in the, world look at the look at the host

957
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 4: come in with these these great under the radar. NAMES

958
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: i love, it so.

959
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: YEAH i had. TO i think with, that it's a

960
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: great time to finish it. OFF i want to hear

961
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: both of you, guys You're i'm gonna ask you one

962
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: more question for both of? You who do you think

963
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: will be the starting first baseman for The marlins in

964
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three on opening? Day Adam Garrett. Cooper all,

965
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: Right Lewis Garrett.

966
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 4: Cooper if they don't go out and make a move

967
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: on the. Market but The Winter meetings start next, week

968
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 4: and again we'll stay tuned at Fish trips because're gonna

969
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 4: have a lot of coverage on. That, yeah there's gonna

970
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 4: be a lot of. Things so maybe they do, something

971
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: or maybe they just kind of do what they've always

972
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: done and they do. Nothing fingers crossed twenty Eleven Winter

973
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: meetings all over.

974
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: AGAIN i stick can'll probably Be Garrett. Cooper but let's

975
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: just Go Trey. Mancini why not for The vibes have

976
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: them in the, back and we Have Eli Eli eli

977
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: predicts they'll Get Yuli. Guriel so, opinion Maybe eli is,

978
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: Right eli is most of the time right and looks

979
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: Like yuli will be our twenty twenty three for his,

980
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: basement For louis, Self daniel For eli in the back

981
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: working his. Magic this Is. Phisiology next episode we'll do another.

982
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: Position you have to stay and be. Tuned excuse me.

983
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: Phishology as, always go fish h