Speaker 1: Tway to do this would be to sort of reset
Speaker 1: our boards. And I haven't talked to Kyle Yeoman's yet.
Speaker 1: I've talked to Dane and been rudely interrupted by Dave.
Speaker 1: So we'll start with Kyle. Kyle, where do you think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys brain is right now? Well, you have to
Speaker 1: look at the defense. You got to look over the
Speaker 1: secondary players that are available, and of course I think
Speaker 1: the board kind of lies out pretty nice for you
Speaker 1: going into day two. You've got some really solid corners
Speaker 1: still there, and Christian Fulton and then even Trevon Diggs
Speaker 1: out of Alabama that are still available. Are they going
Speaker 1: to fall to fifty one? You don't know. But somebody
Speaker 1: asked me today about Antoine Winfield junior, and they said, hey,
Speaker 1: what's the chance that a player like him, like Antoine
Speaker 1: Winfield falls to fifty one? And I said, it's more
Speaker 1: likely than Ceedee Lamb falling to seventeen. And that happened.
Speaker 1: So you could see something like that happening again. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys got extremely lucky, and round number one they address
Speaker 1: the offense. You can kind of put that behind you
Speaker 1: now unless you really wanted to add an interior offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: But I still think that's a Day three pick. You
Speaker 1: gotta go defense with both of these selections. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the depth of this draft and you look at
Speaker 1: it's surprising to me though, that you have those defensive
Speaker 1: ends still on the board with epin Sa Grossmatos. You know,
Speaker 1: I think that you talk about defensive interior with Blacklock, Mattabekee,
Speaker 1: even Davidson from Auburn. I you know, those are guys.
Speaker 1: Three quality guys right there on my board with Bond
Speaker 1: the linebacker there, gather Davis from from Apps State as
Speaker 1: a guy. You can talk about linebackers, but look at
Speaker 1: the corners and look at the safeties, digs Fulton, I
Speaker 1: have Danzler from Mississippi State. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are dinging him because of his speed. I promise
Speaker 1: you guys, I could have got him faster if we'd
Speaker 1: went to Starkville. But you know he's a quality, quality corner.
Speaker 1: You watch him cover all these sec receivers. But the safeties,
Speaker 1: the safeties, you know, Xavier McKinney, delpit Chin from Southern Illinois.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of quality. And I think that Stephen Jones,
Speaker 1: you know everybody's asking us on our shows, Hey, you're
Speaker 1: gonna go up. You're gonna try and find a way
Speaker 1: to go up in this job. I think if he
Speaker 1: sits right there, he's gonna fall have one of these
Speaker 1: defensive players fall right in his lap, and it might
Speaker 1: be the guy that he absolutely wants. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: a quality guy at fifty one. It's almost a certain
Speaker 1: just looking at top twenty players in this round. Even
Speaker 1: if you stay put at fifty one, you don't give
Speaker 1: up any draft capital. I agree completely, Brian. I think
Speaker 1: fifty one's a sweet spot for some of those safeties
Speaker 1: to fall. It might not be delp It or McKinney,
Speaker 1: but you mentioned Chin. There's also Kyle Dugger in that conversation,
Speaker 1: and then Antoine Winfield Junior. There's plenty of options. Dane,
Speaker 1: how does your board set up going into Day two
Speaker 1: and how does that sort of jive with what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys may be hoping to see. Yeah, we're gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot of running backs off the board here pretty quickly,
Speaker 1: I think with JK. Dobbins still around, DeAndre Swift, Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 1: and then I mean talking about these dvs. We didn't
Speaker 1: have a single safety in the first round and not
Speaker 1: surprised by that. I didn't have a single first round
Speaker 1: grade on any of these safeties. But this is the
Speaker 1: sweet spot for a safety. Now, starting in the second round,
Speaker 1: we could see five, maybe even six off the board
Speaker 1: and the next forty picks and then these corners that
Speaker 1: Brian mentioned with Fulton and with Diggs, and you know
Speaker 1: Diggs especially, is that a player that in if the
Speaker 1: first sixteen picks played out a certain way, could they
Speaker 1: have considered Digs at seventeen and would he be available
Speaker 1: at fifty one? Is that a possibility? So a really
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic with these corners here in the second round,
Speaker 1: how early they come off the board. But that's when
Speaker 1: you see at Jordan Brooks off the board in the
Speaker 1: first round. You see in Noah igbinogaty guys that you
Speaker 1: didn't expect. That's going to push other good players to
Speaker 1: the second round. And this draft is full of really
Speaker 1: good players. I think the fact that yesterday we saw
Speaker 1: four or five trades, only one trade included Day two picks,
Speaker 1: and that tells you with the general managers in this
Speaker 1: league think of the Day two talent this year. They
Speaker 1: did not want to sacrifice Day two picks because they
Speaker 1: know they're gonna come up with starters tonight with their picks.
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman, how are you feel feeling kind of going
Speaker 1: into day two here, with what the plans might be
Speaker 1: and with what the player pool looks like? This is
Speaker 1: a perfect setup for a coward like me. Guys, I'm
Speaker 1: glad to see you haven't changed, Dave. Self awareness is key, good,
Speaker 1: old Dave. If I'm sitting here like Brian brought us
Speaker 1: and I want to give up everything, please do No?
Speaker 1: Why would I do that? Lo? I'm just look like, guys, look,
Speaker 1: let's take a look at really what's facing the Cowboys here.
Speaker 1: You've got eighteen picks to go until you pick again.
Speaker 1: You've taken care of your receiver, and let's just consider
Speaker 1: some of these names that we sort of touched on
Speaker 1: that are probably gonna go soon here. Whether it's DeAndre Swift,
Speaker 1: whether it's Ezra Cleveland, JK. Dobbins out of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: You got some receivers, T Higgins, maybe Michael Pittman. Is
Speaker 1: it starting to sound like some really, some really good
Speaker 1: defenders are gonna get pushed down the board. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what it sounds like to me. And you think about
Speaker 1: guys we know the Cowboys have had their eye on,
Speaker 1: whether it's Xavier McKinney, whether it's Grant Delpit, Christian Fulton.
Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. Somebody they really like
Speaker 1: has a great shot to be there. And I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna sit and let it come to me. I don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything crazy. Let's let's play a little
Speaker 1: game here for everybody. Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: How does your board you got to dare you? Oh? Yeah, sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I'm curious about who you've got left on
Speaker 1: your board. So my only guy with better than a
Speaker 1: second round grade, I liked Zach bond as a one two.
Speaker 1: I'd like to thank Dane Brugler for paving the way
Speaker 1: for all of us to be cowards and not have
Speaker 1: to commit to a round grade be able to split
Speaker 1: the difference there. So Zach Bonn at Wisconsin's my final
Speaker 1: one two, And then I got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: twos that I think that the Cowboys should be really
Speaker 1: happy if they end up picking them at fifty one.
Speaker 1: And that's the game I want to play. I'm going
Speaker 1: to name a player, and you tell me if you'd
Speaker 1: be happy to have him on your football team at
Speaker 1: fifty one. Grant delpittlate, Yes, yes, Xavier McKinny Diggs very much,
Speaker 1: relutely Christian folk yep, sure, yeah, Antoine Winfield yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Questionable Ross Blacklock. Wow. Wait wait, we'll go back and
Speaker 1: we'll we'll go after Brianon's second Ross Blacklock. Yes, happy
Speaker 1: with Blacklock. Yes at fifty one. Okay, you two were
Speaker 1: gross mottos m at fifty one for it? Yes, yep, no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not even at fifty one. I don't like. I'm
Speaker 1: glad to see somebody else has joined the party here.
Speaker 1: I don't like up in this. I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: ran through eight or nine names. That will how many
Speaker 1: picks away? Is it? Dave? Like? Until those names start
Speaker 1: disappearing really really quickly. You don't got a panic about anything.
Speaker 1: It's eighteen picks and you just read off nine and
Speaker 1: we didn't name a single offensive player. Nope, so I didn't. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling mighty fine right now. Yeah, now, Brian who
Speaker 1: are you hating on there? I was hating on Winfield,
Speaker 1: but not hating on Winfield. I'm hating on Winfield only
Speaker 1: because I'd have other safeties I have three safeties I'd
Speaker 1: rather have than him. I'd rather have McKinney, I'd rather
Speaker 1: have Delpit, and I'd rather have Chin. Those are the
Speaker 1: three we haven't mentioned, Ashton Davis or Terrell Burgess. Burgesses
Speaker 1: let me tell you a little something. Burgess is a
Speaker 1: third round dream. Yes he is, okay dream. Whether or
Speaker 1: not he's gonna be there, that's a different question. Dane
Speaker 1: actually did the full leg work of making a mock draft,
Speaker 1: which I know how long that takes, so Dane, you
Speaker 1: have my thoughts and prayers. It took like three and
Speaker 1: a half hours to do a first round mock and
Speaker 1: then you had to do a two three, so I'm
Speaker 1: sure it took eight hours. Uh. I just ran a
Speaker 1: simulator and I ended up with Grossmatos and Terrell Burgess,
Speaker 1: and I threw a party, and Dane, I saw in
Speaker 1: your mock draft what you had the cowboys do and
Speaker 1: the party might be even bigger than the one that
Speaker 1: I had. If it plays out like that, who'd you
Speaker 1: give him and how realistic do you think it is?
Speaker 1: I gave him Trevon Digs, and Diggs isn't going to
Speaker 1: be for everybody? Now? Does he make it? To fifty one.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but I think Tarrell Burgess
Speaker 1: in the third round would be a home run at safety. Well,
Speaker 1: I like the game, first year starter. I think this
Speaker 1: team what they're looking for culture wise, fit wise, scheme wise,
Speaker 1: Terrell Burgess has a lot for what they're looking for
Speaker 1: it in the third round. I think that's where he's
Speaker 1: gonna go, somewhere in the in the top eighty picks.
Speaker 1: And we got the Cincinnati Bengals who are on the
Speaker 1: clock right now. It's rolling down. Obviously they've already taken
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in this draft, but the Bengals are on
Speaker 1: the clock. You won't miss a pick here on one
Speaker 1: O five three the fan in Dallas, Cowboys dot com
Speaker 1: and now Kyle, which you were hating on epines. So
Speaker 1: weren't you as that what you were doing. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not as high on him as normal. Now. I do
Speaker 1: have him at twenty six on my board. That's a
Speaker 1: little bit high, but I just I don't like him.
Speaker 1: I don't tell you for the Cowboys. Got him tifically
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, guys, specifically for the Cowboys, but keep
Speaker 1: him at fifty one. Don't like him welcome to the
Speaker 1: Draft show. Yeah, hey, that's okay, keep me honest. He
Speaker 1: had a horrid combine guy. Oh, by combine scares me
Speaker 1: a lot. Oh. You know there's two different guys on
Speaker 1: this broadcast with me right now that I've done a
Speaker 1: podcast with We called it trust the Tape, Kyle. We
Speaker 1: we like to trust, which I did, and I gave
Speaker 1: Eponesta first round grade then after made him a second
Speaker 1: round grade. So I didn't trust the tape either. But
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about fifty one. His tip was good and
Speaker 1: that's why I have him high there. And can I
Speaker 1: switch the conversation real quick to what are the Bengals
Speaker 1: gonna do here to kick off the night at thirty three? Uh?
Speaker 1: They gotta help Joe Burrow, Right, So we're looking at tackle,
Speaker 1: we're looking at receiver. Any of the players still available
Speaker 1: really stand out to you as worthy of the thirty
Speaker 1: third pick in a direction the Bengals might go, I
Speaker 1: think this is will they take Mems? I think this,
Speaker 1: and I think this is what I think the Bengals.
Speaker 1: It's kind of some scout world is talking about Mems,
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that Cincinnati will will make
Speaker 1: him their pick. I would worry about Tee Higgins still
Speaker 1: out there too. See Higgins is But I'm just saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna go why receiver, I've been better than both
Speaker 1: I just heard. I just yeah, Pittman, I do too.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm just saying with the Bengals, it
Speaker 1: seems to be that Mims was a name that the
Speaker 1: scouts kept talking about. Well, and the other thing with
Speaker 1: the Bengals, their wide receiver coach, former Baylor wide receiver coach.
Speaker 1: They know a little bit about Denzel Mims there, so
Speaker 1: that would be one to keep an eye on. How
Speaker 1: about that, Josh Jones, That's who I mocked. You know
Speaker 1: you get your tackle. They took Jonah Williams in the
Speaker 1: first round last year. Get more tackle, help help Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: I think that's what this pick needs to be about,
Speaker 1: whether it's offensive tackle or receiver. Keep your number one
Speaker 1: pick upright. The I know, I know Jonah Williams is
Speaker 1: coming back from an injury. They should have him. But
Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys are proof like having great having
Speaker 1: a lot of great offensive lineman's never a bad thing. Now, Dave,
Speaker 1: are you more on board with offensive line for them?
Speaker 1: Than receiver because of where the quarterback went to school.
Speaker 1: Are you more about protecting that guy than a different quarterback.
Speaker 1: Maybe Joe Burrow could have gone to Ole Miss. And
Speaker 1: I still still think it's smart to protect an investment.
Speaker 1: I mean, you drafted the guy number one overall. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to throw the ball at anybody
Speaker 1: if he's on his back. I mean, I know Aj
Speaker 1: Green's had injuries, but he's still hanging around. And Tyler
Speaker 1: Boyd has developed into a pretty damn good receiver. So
Speaker 1: I get that. You can always use more weapons, but
Speaker 1: protect your number one pick. That's what I would do.
Speaker 1: Is Josh Jones the number one offensive tackle left. I
Speaker 1: mean I think out of all the tackles, maybe over
Speaker 1: Prince Tega or Cleveland, maybe I still have Jones higher
Speaker 1: than all three of those. Yeah, he's number one on
Speaker 1: my board. That's left. You know, as far as I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like that, that might be a good
Speaker 1: route to go. So having said that, where there's a
Speaker 1: debate about who the top tackle is, there's a debate
Speaker 1: about who the top receiver is, and you could use
Speaker 1: all those things. If you're the Bengals, there's three minutes
Speaker 1: on the clock now and the pick's not in. Do
Speaker 1: you take phone calls? Yeah? I would have been taking
Speaker 1: phone calls what the last twenty hours, But I would
Speaker 1: have guessed we would get a five minute soliloquy from
Speaker 1: Brian about how trading up to the top of the
Speaker 1: second is like the fun the most fun thing you
Speaker 1: can do. Oh. I just kind of thought, Dave, you
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. It is a fun thing to do.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking that these teams all saw all
Speaker 1: the value of these those second round guys, and they
Speaker 1: were going to treat this like that fourth round we get,
Speaker 1: you know, the third day, where all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it's like, no, you're not trading in. I'm taking this guy,
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, this guy. You know, That's what
Speaker 1: I thought was gonna happen. Here. Bengals are taking a
Speaker 1: little bit longer than I thought they would, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, and you're a trade up guy, Brian,
Speaker 1: I've become a trade down guy. Well, I know the Giants.
Speaker 1: I know the Giants wanted to get out of this
Speaker 1: because the Giants don't have a third round pick and
Speaker 1: they have round to wait. I was here and they
Speaker 1: were trying to collect some things. So when we get down,
Speaker 1: the Giants pick, but see if that thing gets moved along. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the way that Zach Taylor's family is kind of surrounding
Speaker 1: him in his makeshift war room kind of makes me
Speaker 1: think that they're not trading out of this, So it
Speaker 1: would be after Indianapolis to where they would make that trade.
Speaker 1: But I mean, even they said earlier, I know, ian
Speaker 1: Rapperport kind of came out and said that the Bears
Speaker 1: were looking to move up very quickly in this round.
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna see some movement a little
Speaker 1: bit more so than we saw yesterday early in the round.
Speaker 1: They like that they like Chin the safety, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: who they like. I do like the idea of just
Speaker 1: seeing what their boar rooms look like, or the coach's
Speaker 1: house looks like, and if the family is there, assume
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make the pick and that they're gonna
Speaker 1: if they're gonna trade it, they wouldn't have the family there.
Speaker 1: So they do say that the pick is in, and
Speaker 1: they've got a camera show in te Higgins, the Clemson
Speaker 1: wide receiver, at his house, but they have not announced
Speaker 1: that the pick is te Higgins. I guess they're just
Speaker 1: going to a guy that they thought maybe might go
Speaker 1: in the first round and showing us his house, and
Speaker 1: then we'll see who the actual pick is going to be.
Speaker 1: But the Bengals pick is in. We won't be getting
Speaker 1: get Dell today, will we. We'll get announcements from somebody else.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he carries through the second round.
Speaker 1: He announced that he opened he opened the draft. So yeah,
Speaker 1: a regular on a regular draft, he does the second round.
Speaker 1: But maybe they changed it up this time. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm just relieved. One benefit of doing this
Speaker 1: thing remotely is nobody has to sit in the damn
Speaker 1: green room, so good good for them it. Also, I
Speaker 1: was amazed at how smoothly it went yesterday. Obviously I
Speaker 1: didn't have audio because we're broadcasting, but it didn't seem
Speaker 1: like there were any hiccups or glitches, and I know
Speaker 1: I had them broadcasting, So the media struggled with it
Speaker 1: more than the NFL did, which is pretty cool. So
Speaker 1: the pick is in. Yeah, pick is in, and it
Speaker 1: looks like we'll get the announcement here shortly as they're
Speaker 1: running the sweet little graphic that says the pick is
Speaker 1: in now, and here's Roger Goodell. With the thirty third
Speaker 1: pick in the two twenty draft, Cincinnati Bengals select Tim Higgins,
Speaker 1: heide receiver Clemson. Here you go short, wait for te
Speaker 1: Higgins and we will talk about that pick, how he
Speaker 1: fits with Cincinnati. Will get to all of that when
Speaker 1: we return. We will be right back. You're listening to
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft one oh five three the
Speaker 1: fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. So this is where
Speaker 1: we'll pick things up here on the Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com side and Tie Higgins. Brian, you mentioned earlier that
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims would have been a little bit of a
Speaker 1: it would have been a different fit overall with the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, but or excuse me, with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: But Brian, with the Bengals not taking Mims and instead
Speaker 1: of going with T Higgins here, what do you think
Speaker 1: about that one? No, I like to pick. I mean,
Speaker 1: Higgins was one of my I did fifty one for
Speaker 1: one oh five three, and he was my seventeenth player left.
Speaker 1: I mean that was my seventeenth guy. So I was happy.
Speaker 1: I thought his name was gonna get called last night.
Speaker 1: I think people are bashing this kid for a lot
Speaker 1: of wrong reasons here. I mean, I see a guy
Speaker 1: that will go get the football. I'll see a guy
Speaker 1: that run at all levels. I'll see a guy that'll
Speaker 1: separate and make some plays down the field. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, though, Joe Burrow has to be happy to
Speaker 1: have a guy like this guy and an AJ Green.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least throw the ball too. We saw
Speaker 1: what he did at LSU throwing with really quality wide receivers.
Speaker 1: This kid could go get it. I like this pick
Speaker 1: a lot. I think it's interesting that they draft him,
Speaker 1: and I think he's He's not on the same level
Speaker 1: as AJ Green, but stylistically there are some similarities there.
Speaker 1: Tall lean athlete. I think would you like about Higgins
Speaker 1: is the reflexes, the catch point skills, his ability to
Speaker 1: turn those erratic passes into completions. So with te Higgins,
Speaker 1: I mean some of the some of the worries are warranted.
Speaker 1: The speed is not great. Play strength is a question
Speaker 1: mark for me. But when you focus on what he
Speaker 1: does really well, that's where he can be a weapon
Speaker 1: for you. And I really like the way that when
Speaker 1: you watch Burrow on tape, if Burrow gets man coverage
Speaker 1: on a fly route. Burrow's really happy to make that throw.
Speaker 1: And I think if you take aj Green and you
Speaker 1: take T Higgins, you've got a quarterback that's willing to
Speaker 1: throw a fifty fifty ball. That sounds like a lot
Speaker 1: of fun to me, you know, absolutely sounds like a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. But the fact that Higgins goes before
Speaker 1: Denzel Man's kind of I think it plays in favor
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Like David said, when the pick was made,
Speaker 1: that's good news because now you've got another receiver that's
Speaker 1: going to go before fifty one. I know Higgins probably
Speaker 1: would have been in that category regardless, but the more
Speaker 1: oftensive players that we see early on, the better I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I mean, I said it earlier, I
Speaker 1: would have drafted an offensive tackle. But as long as
Speaker 1: the names coming up on the board are offensive players,
Speaker 1: I don't really care. Let's just push these defenders down
Speaker 1: the board and we'll all be happy. We've got other
Speaker 1: wide receivers out there too. Michael Pittman Junior. That's there.
Speaker 1: The offensive tackles, like we talked about a little bit
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier with Ezrad Cleveland, Josh Jones, they're
Speaker 1: all in that conversation. The more and more, like you said,
Speaker 1: more and more we see these offensive guys, the more
Speaker 1: exciting it gets in terms of fifty one being just
Speaker 1: a top notch starting potential. Day one Cowboys pick Indianapolis
Speaker 1: is my kind of team because they didn't need all
Speaker 1: the time in the world. They were like, hey, we're up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got our guy. We'll pick him. A feel for
Speaker 1: this one. I thought Michael Pittman would be the perfect fit.
Speaker 1: They're looking for that power forward at receiver, and that's
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman. He's got the size, he's a better athlete
Speaker 1: than giving credit for, and he fits culture wise what
Speaker 1: they want captain special teams guy. Uh, Michael Pittman I
Speaker 1: think would be a perfect fit for what they're looking
Speaker 1: for on offense. I think that's a perfect, perfect explanation
Speaker 1: and just the fit that he has overall, just the
Speaker 1: power that he has. Well, it looks like that Michael
Speaker 1: Pittman is the pick. Oh so good job, there got
Speaker 1: one right in my Monk draft. There you go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman the USC watch. I'll tell you how old
Speaker 1: I am. I scouted his dad. His dad as a
Speaker 1: heck of a football player too. Went a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with Tampa. So yeah, I mean it's ah this guy
Speaker 1: right here, I mean you watch him play and he
Speaker 1: goes and gets the football, big physical guy that makes
Speaker 1: things happen. I'm a big fan of this this pick.
Speaker 1: I actually had him better than men than twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: NFL Draft continues on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one
Speaker 1: five three The Fan. All right, welcome back, Jeff Kavanov.
Speaker 1: Bryan brought us from one oh five three the Fan
Speaker 1: along with Kyle Yeoman's, Dave Hellman and Dane Bruegler with
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Is we have Michael Pittman USC
Speaker 1: wide receiver off the board to the Indianapolis Colts. And
Speaker 1: we were just talking about, Dane, how kind of you
Speaker 1: put in the call for this one and thought it
Speaker 1: was the right fit, perfect fit. And this is who
Speaker 1: I mocked to the Colts in my mock draft last night.
Speaker 1: I just when you look with the Colts offense, t
Speaker 1: Y Higgins or excuse me, t Y Hilton still can
Speaker 1: burn you down the field, but they need that power
Speaker 1: forward on the outside, a guy who can go up
Speaker 1: and get the football and both schematically and then off
Speaker 1: the field, he's a team captain, a guy who will
Speaker 1: play special teams. He's just a natural fit with that
Speaker 1: culture and what they're looking for on offense with Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: I love Pittman. He was my fifth receiver in this
Speaker 1: draft class. He was actually the first receiver I watched,
Speaker 1: and when I was done, I started asking people. I
Speaker 1: was like, why haven't I heard about this guy more?
Speaker 1: Six to four and moves like he does, back shoulder,
Speaker 1: go up and get it, track it. He's just to me,
Speaker 1: he's just a really polished, really solid player that's not
Speaker 1: going to disappoint. You tabbed him as a pet cat
Speaker 1: the first Draft Show episode of the season, so I
Speaker 1: think you were right on top of it from the beginning.
Speaker 1: But one hundred and one receptions from thirty three targets,
Speaker 1: and the biggest stat to me that sticks out with
Speaker 1: him is the fact that he forced fourteen miss tackles.
Speaker 1: He's tough to bring down, and I love the power
Speaker 1: forward basketball reference that Dane was making because he is
Speaker 1: just that. He's so tough and he's so slippery at
Speaker 1: the same time. I think he's a great fit for
Speaker 1: that Colt's offense and Dave Hellman. I know, it's very
Speaker 1: happy as we've gone receiver receiver to open the round.
Speaker 1: If we can get about eight more of those, that'd
Speaker 1: be nice. Huh, keep him coming man, Which, ironically, I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys really liked Pittman and Higgins obviously. I
Speaker 1: mean there, let's pick thirty three, thirty four. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are gonna like him. But no, I mean
Speaker 1: I think you and I were both joking on Twitter today.
Speaker 1: Is spent most of the spring wondering, you know, how
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could get a receiver to fall to him,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I really don't care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the answer was waiting the first round. Yeah, Detroit is
Speaker 1: on the clock now at thirty five. We've got t
Speaker 1: Higgins off the board at thirty three to Cincinnati. At
Speaker 1: thirty four, we've got Michael Pittman Junior from USC the
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Speaker 1: medical workers and first responders. As we're looking at Bob Quinn,
Speaker 1: the Lions executive VP and general manager Dane Needs guesses
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions on the clock. I'd love to see one
Speaker 1: of the running backs here. I think it was up
Speaker 1: to the Lions. They would adapt what the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: did last year. Just run the ball down your throat
Speaker 1: and set up easy place for your quarterbacks. So only
Speaker 1: one running back off the board still, Jonathan Taylor's available, JK. Dobbins,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift. Would they go with one of these running
Speaker 1: backs to add to the backfield and really help open
Speaker 1: up the offense. Yeah? What about an edge here too?
Speaker 1: I mean that's something that we think about with the Lions,
Speaker 1: you know, and a a guy that with this coach,
Speaker 1: with Matt, with Patricia, his ability to play with multiple fronts.
Speaker 1: He needs a guy that could kind of do those
Speaker 1: kinds of things. Maybe maybe we'll see one of these
Speaker 1: guys go here's Roger. The second round, with the thirty
Speaker 1: fifth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions select DeAndre Swift, running back Georgia. That is why
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler is the best there is, the best there was,
Speaker 1: and the best there ever will be. As DeAndre Swift
Speaker 1: is off the board, a good number of people's top
Speaker 1: running back going to the Detroit Lions. There the guy
Speaker 1: that has the uncanny ability to make you miss. And
Speaker 1: like I said, I think the Lions really want to
Speaker 1: use that running back, use the run game to help
Speaker 1: out their quarterback, to help out everybody else in the offense.
Speaker 1: And they can do that with DeAndre Swift, who I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the top thirty players in
Speaker 1: this draft, but here he is available early second round,
Speaker 1: tremendous value for Detroit. You're creeping towards the Cowboy pick,
Speaker 1: where now it's the New York Giants on the clock.
Speaker 1: The hated New York Giants are on the clock now,
Speaker 1: and obviously they have already taken Andrew Thomas there in
Speaker 1: the first round. So as we're trying to get a
Speaker 1: handle on the direction they might go and the things
Speaker 1: that they could use to improve that roster, Brian, you
Speaker 1: got to handle on that. Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: This was a pick that they were talking about trading,
Speaker 1: but with the pick now being in, I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like that that they they're gonna go a couple
Speaker 1: of different ways here that the Giants are the offensive
Speaker 1: tackle they dressed out last night. I mentioned now the edge,
Speaker 1: what are they going to do with that wide receivers
Speaker 1: of possibility here? Even they were talking about center and
Speaker 1: safety as well as a couple of different positions. So
Speaker 1: you know, I keep mentioning those guys the grossmato's the
Speaker 1: epinessas we'll see what Dave Gettleman goes. But to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on the edge, wide receivers, safeties and maybe
Speaker 1: even a center here. Is it fair to guess that,
Speaker 1: you know, much like we're talking about the Cowboys, a
Speaker 1: lot of these you know, everybody's like, oh man, we
Speaker 1: feel really good about what's available. There's no need to
Speaker 1: try to do something crazy and get into the top
Speaker 1: of this round. I think so, I mean, I thought
Speaker 1: I saw I think it was a Schefter tweet where
Speaker 1: he said somebody in the NFL said something about this
Speaker 1: is the deepest second or third round he's ever seen,
Speaker 1: and there could be as many Pro bowlers in the
Speaker 1: second round as there is in the first. And maybe
Speaker 1: we feel that to some extent every year. I think
Speaker 1: when you do the work, you have a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that you end up really liking. But it does
Speaker 1: feel better this year. I think my board looks pretty
Speaker 1: stacked up in the second and third rounds. Does that
Speaker 1: hold true for everybody else? Yeah? No, I feel really good.
Speaker 1: I mean when I was typing all the guys that
Speaker 1: were still available on my board, I was feeling like, man,
Speaker 1: this is not there's not reaching here. There's like quality
Speaker 1: throughout this year. I think the Lions so far, I've
Speaker 1: had a pretty good draft, by the way, with Akuta
Speaker 1: and then Swift, I mean, I think they've hit a
Speaker 1: couple of nice picks here. But yeah, that the depth
Speaker 1: of the draft overall, especially in that second round, is
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable, especially with some of these defensive guys. And
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried that the Giants are gonna probably
Speaker 1: take one of those safeties that the Cowboys are looking at,
Speaker 1: whether it be McKinney or delp it here, because I mean,
Speaker 1: they need some help in that secondary. That was obvious
Speaker 1: last night. And I think if Okuda maybe would have
Speaker 1: fallen a one more pick to fall out of the
Speaker 1: Lions lap, maybe they would have taken him instead of
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. But I mean, I think overall, you
Speaker 1: look here as these next couple of picks You've got
Speaker 1: the Giants that could use a safety, the Panthers that
Speaker 1: could use a safety, and then the Dolphins who could
Speaker 1: use some defensive lion help. So I think there's a
Speaker 1: potential for a run here defensively. But like you guys
Speaker 1: are saying, I think a lot of those guys could
Speaker 1: end up being Pro Bowlers and just aren't in the
Speaker 1: first round because of the depth that's there. No why
Speaker 1: you just wished a bunch of defensive picks though out there.
Speaker 1: It's kind of message. Really, see it happening, is all
Speaker 1: it is. I'm just throwing that out there. Guy, how
Speaker 1: you're being kind of a bummer tonight? You really are.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bad mood. I don't know. I'm about what
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I'm in a great mood. It's Draft day.
Speaker 1: There's nothing vibe. Then four straight offensive picks, We're fine.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's I wonder if there's anything that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could do tonight that would offset what they
Speaker 1: did yesterday, because I can't remember the last time I
Speaker 1: don't even want to think about that. I can't remember
Speaker 1: the last time that the silence during the draft was
Speaker 1: celebratory as opposed to shock. Because I know we've been
Speaker 1: there a couple of times in shock without a lot
Speaker 1: of words to say after a cowboy pick, but not
Speaker 1: in the same way we were after the Cedee Lamp pick.
Speaker 1: Y'all's audio yesterday was one of my favorite things to
Speaker 1: go back and watch, just the pure giggles from Cavanaugh
Speaker 1: and then Brian exclaiming to the world that they did it.
Speaker 1: I thought that was perfect. What was your guys' reaction?
Speaker 1: Was it similar? We cracked open Miller lights? Is what happened?
Speaker 1: Oh so you guys probably did it actually better than
Speaker 1: we did. That's awesome. I don't think we were as
Speaker 1: animated as y'all though. Well, we just we wanted to
Speaker 1: believe that somebody would draft for just their boards, play
Speaker 1: the best player. We were just all week long, we
Speaker 1: on the radio, we've been talking about Okay, get ready,
Speaker 1: it's about need. In the first round. They always take need.
Speaker 1: Everybody takes need, and we were trying to prepare all
Speaker 1: our listeners that that was going to be the case,
Speaker 1: and they did something that I didn't think they were
Speaker 1: gonna do. Let me let me throw this earway, bright guy,
Speaker 1: because I don't get to do radio with you as
Speaker 1: often as I used to. Do you think that that
Speaker 1: signifies a philosophical change with this new coaching staff, or
Speaker 1: do you think Ceedee Lamb was just that obvious that
Speaker 1: even if Jason Garrett had been the head coach, they
Speaker 1: would have done it anyway. Yeah, maybe the fact that
Speaker 1: the coaches weren't in the room, or maybe they didn't
Speaker 1: have a chance to bend somebody's ear, you know, I
Speaker 1: think Jerry and Stephen and you know what I learned
Speaker 1: was there was this was one of the best discussions
Speaker 1: they had about a player, you know. I mean, they
Speaker 1: really talked themselves through this one. And maybe it wasn't
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys, maybe there wasn't a bunch of
Speaker 1: influencing going on, but they had to tag on their
Speaker 1: board and the six at the stack, you know, in
Speaker 1: that sixth overall spot, and that's you know, when it's
Speaker 1: like that, man, it's easy to see, you know, and
Speaker 1: so good for them. But I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it had a lot of not many voices in the
Speaker 1: room on that one. I wonder how much of that
Speaker 1: is one of the positives of not having continuity, because
Speaker 1: continuity meant that you had a lot of voices that
Speaker 1: were trusted by the front office, that were trusted by
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, and if they were interested in players, they
Speaker 1: were interested in players, and he would listen to it.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if when you get a brand new
Speaker 1: head coach, if he doesn't just come in and go,
Speaker 1: I just got here, Yeah, who's the top player, who's
Speaker 1: the best guy on the board. We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells did that when he first came to us.
Speaker 1: He sat back in that first draft oh three and
Speaker 1: watched everybody work. And that's you know, he just said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm an No. Four. He tore you up. Then he
Speaker 1: tore yeah exactly, and then No. Five I tore him back,
Speaker 1: and then I was out of a job. But but that,
Speaker 1: you know, that's where I think that you know, coaches
Speaker 1: are smart if they come in and say, okay, let's
Speaker 1: see how these guys going to operate. And the head
Speaker 1: coach of Dallas Cowboys does have some opinion. He does,
Speaker 1: whether you want to take it or not about personnel.
Speaker 1: So now it is the New York Giants on the clock,
Speaker 1: and here is Roger Goodell, Specialist Smith and thank you
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Speaker 1: We cannot thank you enough for what you do and
Speaker 1: what you continue to do in these uncertain times. Thank you.
Speaker 1: With the thirty six pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the New York Giants select Xavier McKinney, defensive back Alabama. Boo.
Speaker 1: Giants love taking those Bama safeties at the top of
Speaker 1: the second round. Landon Collins. You know, never really thought
Speaker 1: that McKinney was a good player, so I'm really worried
Speaker 1: about that one. So that's that's probably the first Cowboys
Speaker 1: target off the board here in the second round, as
Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney will be headed to the New York Giants
Speaker 1: and you get to deal with him a couple of
Speaker 1: times a year. Who is the biggest Xavier McKinney fan
Speaker 1: who wants to go scouting report on McKinney fired at him, Dane,
Speaker 1: You know, he is my top safety. I do have
Speaker 1: some questions about him holding up in coverage, but this
Speaker 1: is a player who had ten turnover worthy plays the
Speaker 1: last two years, talking about forced fumbles and interceptions. I
Speaker 1: think he's a better run defender than in pass coverage.
Speaker 1: But this is an all around safety who is very smart.
Speaker 1: The coach is good about for him in Alabama. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot to like about him as he
Speaker 1: projects to the next level. I don't know that he's
Speaker 1: ever going to be a Pro Bowl level player, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a solid starter for a long time.
Speaker 1: Anybody wanted to go up for him, Oh, absolutely not,
Speaker 1: not with what's available. Although I will say I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if he was their top guy heading into today,
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean they expected him to fall. But
Speaker 1: we heard whispers that they might have taken him seventeen
Speaker 1: in the right set of circumstances, or maybe in a
Speaker 1: trade back to the twenties. So if they liked him
Speaker 1: that much, it's a reasonable guest that he would have
Speaker 1: been one of their top guys tonight. Um. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was ever realistic to think he lasted that long,
Speaker 1: but it still hurts to see him go after just
Speaker 1: four picks. Yeah. I spent a lot of time yesterday Dave, thinking, man,
Speaker 1: this is going to come down to aj Terrell for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys or but then you had the Rugs pick,
Speaker 1: and then you had the kin Law pick, and it
Speaker 1: was like, well wait, wait, wait a second. Here it
Speaker 1: went from being. It went from like planning for a
Speaker 1: worst case to scenario to like do it? Dare I
Speaker 1: dream very quickly somewhere yeah, somewhere around pick twelve. It's
Speaker 1: time for the New England Patriots at number thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Here is the commission in the twenty twenty NFL Draft
Speaker 1: in New England Patriots like Kyle Duggar defensive back nor
Speaker 1: Rhyne Okay Dane, tell me about Kyle Dugger because I
Speaker 1: will tell you, out of the top one hundred players
Speaker 1: in this draft, he's the only one. And I tried.
Speaker 1: I've tried tweeting the school. I tried, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: get the all twenty two. So I had to try
Speaker 1: to grade him from the blimp cam and I'm not
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. So tell me about Kyle Dugger. You
Speaker 1: have to look past the dcal and the helmet because
Speaker 1: Division two here, so the competition is not exactly what
Speaker 1: you want. But he was a big time player at
Speaker 1: the D two levels. I know some teams looked at
Speaker 1: him as even a linebacker, so we'll have to see
Speaker 1: how the Patriots use him. Really rangey player, he can cover,
Speaker 1: he can run, He's a big time punt returner at
Speaker 1: the D two level as well. So a little older
Speaker 1: than you want for a player, I just turned twenty
Speaker 1: four years old, but the talent level, I don't have
Speaker 1: a question. This isn't just a late bloomer who ended
Speaker 1: up at the D two level, but he is a
Speaker 1: big time playmaker and certainly worthy of a top forty pick.
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. That's New England. The
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are on the clock at number thirty eight,
Speaker 1: and we will have that pick for you here in
Speaker 1: just a little bit. You are listening to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three the Fan
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com bank. You're on the internet
Speaker 1: side of things. Back to back safety is going in
Speaker 1: the order between the Giants and the Patriots. Xavier McKinney.
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger now off the board and continuing that conversation
Speaker 1: on Kyle Dugger and looking past the logo on the
Speaker 1: side of the helmet. A late bloomery. I mean he
Speaker 1: started at five six all the way through the early
Speaker 1: parts of his high school career and then its senior year,
Speaker 1: he all of a sudden spurred it up to six
Speaker 1: foot one and then that's where he ended up going.
Speaker 1: But just an extreme athlete and the guy who's gonna
Speaker 1: impact the Patriots. This is such a Patriots type of
Speaker 1: pick though, to be honest, that it just fits that mold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the question I have for you guys is that, Okay,
Speaker 1: of of the of Dugger and Windfield, who are you
Speaker 1: going to take? Who? Those short? Those short? And you
Speaker 1: have to think about, Oh, is this are we in
Speaker 1: a situation where Minnesota or lelnor Ryan or is this
Speaker 1: it is Dugger the better player? Dugger's the better player.
Speaker 1: I think Dugger's a better player, honest day. We actually no,
Speaker 1: I don't, No, I don't. It's still Windfield. I keep
Speaker 1: getting scared by the hype, but I don't understand. Don't
Speaker 1: be Why Why should I be scared by? That is
Speaker 1: the youngest old school scout I've ever seen in my life,
Speaker 1: the youngest scared school dude. I sorry, like Antoine Winfield,
Speaker 1: but five nine should scare you? Am I crazier? Did
Speaker 1: Tyrone Matthew not just get named all decade? I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure he did. Oh man, you're talking, Come on, so
Speaker 1: you're telling me he's the honey badger. You're telling me
Speaker 1: he has to be the honey badger to his dad
Speaker 1: was short. He played fourteen years in the league and
Speaker 1: was a solid starting at a different position. That's fair, okay.
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield looks reliable in coverage, has good ball skills,
Speaker 1: and looks like he wants to hit the crap out
Speaker 1: of you like he. Don't get me wrong here, Antoine
Speaker 1: Winfield is a very good player. I just when you
Speaker 1: compare him to some of these other safeties, I would
Speaker 1: rather have a Dugger, a delt Fit, McKinney, Jeremy Chin.
Speaker 1: I would take Antone Winfield somewhere here in the second round,
Speaker 1: just not over some of some of these other safeties.
Speaker 1: We can agree or disagree, Like the Cowboys do a
Speaker 1: lot of things right, they do a lot of things wrong.
Speaker 1: They're not right about everything. But I am. I am
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly on board with the idea that I want players
Speaker 1: that have done it at the highest level. I want
Speaker 1: the guy that's been to the horseshoe or the swamp.
Speaker 1: I don't want Leonora rhyn No offense to Kyle Dugger,
Speaker 1: but I like that piece of not mind of knowing
Speaker 1: that my draft picks have played football at the highest level.
Speaker 1: That's just me. We lost my guy yet thirty eight.
Speaker 1: We lost my guy for fifty one. Gross Mottos is
Speaker 1: off the board. So going to the Carolina Panthers, Wow,
Speaker 1: they're beefing up that defensive line. It took Derek Brown
Speaker 1: in the first and then Matt Rule grabs you to
Speaker 1: Gross Matos in the second. Okay, that's a pretty solid tandem.
Speaker 1: We call that a fake pin throw, but it's not
Speaker 1: a fake pin throw. I picked in my fake marka.
Speaker 1: We call that like a oh darn oh, oh damn it,
Speaker 1: he's not there. What are we gonna do? You guys
Speaker 1: are faking. I wanted him, that was my guy. I
Speaker 1: never I never saw it. I don't know. Somebody tell
Speaker 1: me that I'm wrong, Dan, tell me that I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: What what didn't you like about him? I just I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't see like a lot of explosiveness for a
Speaker 1: guy that people were talking about as a first round pick.
Speaker 1: And I hate to compare him. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: want to compare him to Taco. I just did it
Speaker 1: by saying his name. But like it always seemed like
Speaker 1: if he couldn't get past you with his first idea,
Speaker 1: then he didn't know what else to do. It looked
Speaker 1: really good on tape against Indiana. That didn't get me
Speaker 1: too riled up. Wow Wow, I think there's no question
Speaker 1: he still needs to learn how to patch everything together.
Speaker 1: But with that length, that flexibility, I coach him up
Speaker 1: and I think you have something there. Uh you know.
Speaker 1: I think he's an easy player to like. I thought
Speaker 1: he was worthy of a first round pick. And you
Speaker 1: can reduce him inside, you can play him outside. I
Speaker 1: think he has big time potential, not just what he
Speaker 1: is right now, but what he's going to look like
Speaker 1: two years from now. I kind of agree with David
Speaker 1: on this. Oh hey, my guy, I was going I
Speaker 1: was waiting for him. I'm watching him in the Memphis
Speaker 1: the game against the Cotton Bowl, and I'm like, he
Speaker 1: has a good rush, and then for like three or
Speaker 1: four plays in a row, he did absolutely nothing. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, going, come on, man, you're playing Memphis today.
Speaker 1: And again I'm slamming Memphis right now, but you know
Speaker 1: you're Penn State. Find a way to get to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: find a way to affect the pocket. I just did not,
Speaker 1: And Dane, you could be well right about coach him
Speaker 1: up do this with him, work on the technique. I
Speaker 1: just did not see enough of those plays to make
Speaker 1: me feel like that, well, I'm getting a real difference maker.
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm getting a guy that's got talent, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so far down the line for me.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, Well, then you guys are happy,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy that you're happy. I like to see
Speaker 1: other people happy, and Gross Mottos is gone. He was
Speaker 1: my top and second NFL Draft continues one three the Fan.
Speaker 1: Weoke down back Cowboys dot Com. Welcome back, Jeff Kavanaugh
Speaker 1: and Brian brought us of one oh five three the
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Speaker 1: for every pick. Here. On day two of the NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: at thirty eight, you had ye tour Gross Mottos defensive
Speaker 1: end Penn State go to the Carolina Panthers. I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. Dane Brugler didn't like it. If he's pulling
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, But boy, I tell you, we got
Speaker 1: three analysts on here that couldn't stand him, and we're
Speaker 1: really excited that he's gone, and I'm shock and surprised
Speaker 1: at your guys's evaluation abilities. I'm gonna have to reevaluate
Speaker 1: those myself. But he's gone, and at thirty nine we
Speaker 1: now have the Miami Dolphins on the clock because we're
Speaker 1: creeping our way towards fifty one and go ahead. No,
Speaker 1: the gross modest thing is to me, I just I
Speaker 1: was expecting it more and I didn't get more. Everybody's
Speaker 1: talking about, oh, you gotta watch this grossmatos, you gotta
Speaker 1: watch him, and like I was talking about, I did,
Speaker 1: and I watched him, and I watched him. I watched him.
Speaker 1: I was saying, give me more, give me more. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: oze left in Where is he getting right in toward
Speaker 1: traits luid range, able to get slippery inside and out
Speaker 1: in order to get himself free. You guys see a
Speaker 1: whole lot of range there. Who you didn't see range
Speaker 1: from gross mottos working down the line. He was straight
Speaker 1: forward forward line thinking no, he said no, but yeah,
Speaker 1: well forward is how you get down the line. You
Speaker 1: run forward. I'm not asking the guy to do the
Speaker 1: karaoke drill to chase the running back. Go get it
Speaker 1: might help him a little bit well, when he got
Speaker 1: that length going and used it, and he's able to
Speaker 1: make himself tough to block within him how often inside
Speaker 1: he can now Dan's moving him inside to tackle on
Speaker 1: on third downs. Absolutely, get more speed on the field. Now, Really,
Speaker 1: are not knocked around in there telling you you watch
Speaker 1: the Memphis tape. I did watch the Memphis tapes. That
Speaker 1: thing we saw him. You saw him from a three
Speaker 1: technique bully the Memphis guard right into the backfield Memphis.
Speaker 1: You know it's Chase On for nine games against bad competition,
Speaker 1: he had two sacks and you guys were drooling for
Speaker 1: the dude because he runs fast. Oh you liked Chase
Speaker 1: On too, don't rewrite history. I had Chase On right
Speaker 1: in front of gross mottos. I think they were close
Speaker 1: to me. That's where blood's explosive and one's running in sand.
Speaker 1: One produced and one didn't. That's a great point, sand.
Speaker 1: I mean, thirty five tackles for lost the last two
Speaker 1: years and the Big ten not bad. You know what,
Speaker 1: what I've learned in this conversation is for better or
Speaker 1: for worse. I'm glad he went because I don't want
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're having this debate. About Carolina Panther yet
Speaker 1: gross mottos and not Dallas Cowboy. So Miami Dolphins on
Speaker 1: the clock. Now I'm gonna go ahead and let all
Speaker 1: that go get back in a good mood because we're
Speaker 1: all broadcasting with friends on one oh five three and
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So Miami, uh, this will
Speaker 1: be the way their fourth pick of this draft. They're
Speaker 1: sitting there with two a tongue of vloa. They are
Speaker 1: sitting there with Austin Jaxon. And then my page cut
Speaker 1: off and I don't see their third PICKO noah ig
Speaker 1: oh igbinogeny. And now the Dolphins pick is in at
Speaker 1: number thirty nine in the second round. Here's Roger with
Speaker 1: the thirty ninth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins select Robert Hunt, tackle Louisiana Lafayette. There
Speaker 1: is a Dane Brugler special as this was your top
Speaker 1: rated guard, I believe, even though he's from you La La,
Speaker 1: and he played right tackle at Louisiana Lafayette. A guy
Speaker 1: that really only played a little bit of guard earlier
Speaker 1: in his career moved to tackle the last two years.
Speaker 1: We was All Conference player This is a mean dude.
Speaker 1: He will bury you and not apologize for it. He
Speaker 1: is a fun player who missed part of most of
Speaker 1: the draft process. Missed the Senior bull because of an injury,
Speaker 1: missed the Combine, so weren't sure how that was going
Speaker 1: to affect his draft status. Didn't affect it very much
Speaker 1: because I thought he was worthy of a second round pick.
Speaker 1: That's where he went. We have the Houston Texans. They're
Speaker 1: going to be on the clock at number forty overall,
Speaker 1: their first pick of the draft. I believe yes. And
Speaker 1: if they're handling of their front office lately as any indication,
Speaker 1: they will pick a sixth rounder here and then break
Speaker 1: NFL rules to sign him to a new deal before
Speaker 1: he plays for like one hundred million dollars. That's what
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's gonna do. How does Bill O'Brien end up
Speaker 1: as the GM? Is he is? He good at relationships?
Speaker 1: Did he got the owner of the team to trust
Speaker 1: him somehow? Well, it's the owner passed away, so well
Speaker 1: there's still an owner. Somebody owns the team, I know,
Speaker 1: But he's he's run out a couple of General Mattress.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, Brian Gaine was a guy that
Speaker 1: they they had worked together, and he got rid of him.
Speaker 1: Rick Smith a long time ago. He know his wife
Speaker 1: got six So you know, Bill steadily, he wins enough games,
Speaker 1: he gets some of the playoffs, he finds a way
Speaker 1: to win the division. So you know he gets a
Speaker 1: lot of control that way. But yeah, this way of
Speaker 1: handling and roster building and the team and stuff, that's
Speaker 1: a good roster. But I'm just telling you right now
Speaker 1: though his general manager skills are not very good. Well,
Speaker 1: he's on. He's on. Go ahead. Is it what gave
Speaker 1: it away? The DeAndre Hopkins trade or the money you make?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm saying. You're you're in a
Speaker 1: situation right now. You're it's about building your roster, and
Speaker 1: you know doing there's some it's a talented they got
Speaker 1: some talent there, but he's going to find a way
Speaker 1: to wreck that talent, is what he's going to do. Well.
Speaker 1: It's a lot like when Chip Kelly got personnel in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I'll just trade the good players. This
Speaker 1: is fun. I'm the personality in the room. It's just
Speaker 1: a it's a really weird strategy. And then to pretend
Speaker 1: that the David Johnson that as a player that he's
Speaker 1: a plus at his salary, that was a minus. You
Speaker 1: should have got more. Here's Roger twenty NFL Draft. You
Speaker 1: use some Texans select Ross Blacklock, defensive tackle TCU. All right,
Speaker 1: talk to me. Now, anybody throwing a pen at that one,
Speaker 1: I think that's a guy that you probably interested in
Speaker 1: at fifty one. Now I'm throwing a pin, a fake pen.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a fake pen throw. That's a fake pen
Speaker 1: throw for me. But yeah, I liked him a lot. Somebody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do. We really think he was gonna make it
Speaker 1: to fifty one, though I think realistically too good of
Speaker 1: a player. Do I think fall out of the top
Speaker 1: fifty picks. Yeah, but I think I agree with you.
Speaker 1: But I think that when we get to fifty one,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be players available that I'll have the same
Speaker 1: thing apply to where I'll be like, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: think that he was gonna make it. I don't know
Speaker 1: who that guy's name is yet, but I think as
Speaker 1: we get there that is going to happen. It's just
Speaker 1: a matter of who that name is. But he was
Speaker 1: definitely one of them where you anticipated him going well
Speaker 1: before you pick so TCUs Ross Blacklocke, who when I
Speaker 1: watched him, they were lining up as a one technique,
Speaker 1: and I think it as an NFL player, he projects
Speaker 1: more as a three technique. Put him head up over
Speaker 1: the guard and let him use some of that athletic
Speaker 1: ability to try to rush the passer. Sixty three two
Speaker 1: ninety pounds. I liked him. He would have been a
Speaker 1: nice pick at fifty one, but yeah, probably going earlier
Speaker 1: than that, only he got a basketball background. You have
Speaker 1: that unique kind of combination with some lateral quickness and
Speaker 1: you got the agility kind of paired with the length
Speaker 1: as well. So I mean, I think this is one
Speaker 1: of those guys. Him and both Neville Gallimore had some
Speaker 1: of the better lateral kind of sideline the sideline ability
Speaker 1: as a d tackle than really a lot of the
Speaker 1: guys in the draft. Even though that Blacklock had that
Speaker 1: achilles injury back in twenty eighteen. I really do like
Speaker 1: this pick for the Texans, And hey, Bill O'Brien did
Speaker 1: something smart that's kind of new. He stepped out of
Speaker 1: the room for a little bit. He'll probably trade him now.
Speaker 1: This guy, I mean, you talk about a disruptive player though.
Speaker 1: That first step quickness inside is stuff. Jeff, I think
Speaker 1: you're right about him playing in those playim as a three.
Speaker 1: Let him attack the gap. I mean, I like the
Speaker 1: fact that how he's able to put himself in position.
Speaker 1: He's a hard guy to fool. I was watching there
Speaker 1: were some schemes that were trying to pull him out
Speaker 1: of the way and he's like, I'm not going for that,
Speaker 1: and he beat He'd beat those trap blocks, get up
Speaker 1: the field tackle. He was my twenty sixth best player
Speaker 1: on my board. So I'm a big fan of this guy.
Speaker 1: Whenever I watch in tied defensive lineman in general, I
Speaker 1: really like when I don't need to know exactly what
Speaker 1: number he's wearing it because when just when you walk,
Speaker 1: you can tell pretty quickly. Okay, that's who I need
Speaker 1: to watch, because he's firing off the ball, he's winning early.
Speaker 1: You see those violent hands, you see the scheme versatility.
Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock was definitely that guy for TCU. So now
Speaker 1: we got the Indianapolis Colts on the clock at number
Speaker 1: forty one, and I believe this is their first pick
Speaker 1: of the draft. And here is the commissioner first pick
Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis folks, when the forty first pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts select Jonathan Taylor,
Speaker 1: running back Wisconsin apaula jeez. Of course they picked not
Speaker 1: too long ago, and they took Michael Pittman and now
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor running back out of Wisconsin. Dane, you said
Speaker 1: some running backs were going to start going, here's the
Speaker 1: beginning of the run. How many other teams before the
Speaker 1: Cowboys you think might take a couple? And if you
Speaker 1: want to add a Jonathan Taylor scouting report, that dude
Speaker 1: was a workhorse. Ya talk about production. If you would
Speaker 1: have went back for a senior year, he would have
Speaker 1: shattered every major rushing record in college football history. Just
Speaker 1: a really talented guy. And yes he benefited from Wisconsin's
Speaker 1: offense and offensive line, but he deserves credit as well.
Speaker 1: This is a fourth three athlete at five eleven two
Speaker 1: n twenty five pounds. He's not a big, make you
Speaker 1: miss guy, but good luck tackling him, good luck getting
Speaker 1: him on the ground. And this is an interesting selection
Speaker 1: for Indianapolis. They are giving Philip Rivers their new quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and help Michael Pittman on the outside. Jonathan Taylor in
Speaker 1: the backfield. You have to really like what Chris Ballard
Speaker 1: is doing with the Colts right now. All the old
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are finally getting weapons. And did we mention I
Speaker 1: get that was a trade up from forty four, was
Speaker 1: it not? Yes, it was because Cleveland originally had Cleveland
Speaker 1: slides out of that pick, trying to add more value.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the terms, but so that's interesting, you know, adding, Yeah,
Speaker 1: surrounding Philip Rivers with talent. I actually a little birdie
Speaker 1: told me that the Cowboys were super super high on
Speaker 1: this guy. They really like Jonathan Taylor. Obviously, who doesn't, uh,
Speaker 1: And I only bring it up because it's it's fascinating
Speaker 1: for me to think, you know, if a guy like
Speaker 1: that falls to a team like Dallas, I mean, what
Speaker 1: a test of best player available that would be, because
Speaker 1: on no level would make sense to draft that guy.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, I got too many receivers
Speaker 1: to be running out too many running backs. I understand.
Speaker 1: I'm just I just think it would be funny. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's not going to be a problem now because
Speaker 1: he's gone, but it's funny to think about we're down
Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville Jaguars at pick number forty two here
Speaker 1: in the second round on one oh five three the
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com is Jeff Kevin on
Speaker 1: Brian brought us from the Fan, Kyle Yeoman's Dane Brugler
Speaker 1: and Dave Hellman with Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And let's
Speaker 1: take a quick look back at our boards as we
Speaker 1: are now within ten picks of the Dallas Cowboys, and Kyle,
Speaker 1: you want to give me a few names that jump
Speaker 1: out at you that you're hoping can keep sticking around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm still sitting there looking at Christian Fulton
Speaker 1: on the board and then also Grant Delpit. Both guys
Speaker 1: are still there. I think here you're probably gonna see
Speaker 1: Jacksonville go with a wide receiver. So there's another pick
Speaker 1: that's gonna push that a little bit further down. We
Speaker 1: kind of expected maybe the Bears to go up a
Speaker 1: little bit. They're still sitting at forty three. They could
Speaker 1: use some defense and they may take one of those corners.
Speaker 1: So there's some teams out in front of you that
Speaker 1: scare you a little bit in terms of taking some
Speaker 1: of the guys that you're looking at. But The fact
Speaker 1: that Fulton is still on the board still kind of
Speaker 1: shocks me a little bit. I still had a one
Speaker 1: two great on him, so if he's able to fall
Speaker 1: to fifty one, I'd be at static. Dave Hellman, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's what we said. I mean, McKinney's off the board,
Speaker 1: Grossmatos and oh geez, I totally drew a blank. Who's
Speaker 1: the oh Black Black loves me? Yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not mad about that at all. Those are you know,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with them not being cowboy picks, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm looking at Trevan Diggs, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, Christian Fulton, Grant Delpit, aj Epanessa still hanging
Speaker 1: out there, Zachin, Mattabeke as well. That's another name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another name. I mean I'm feeling really good about. You know. Then,
Speaker 1: you know, we've kind of got a small circle of
Speaker 1: names that we think the cowboys might like, and there's
Speaker 1: still plenty of them here as we inch closer. What
Speaker 1: we're on pick forty two right now, so we're inside
Speaker 1: a ten or so picks, and there's still a pretty
Speaker 1: healthy amount of names sitting there. Matta Bik is a
Speaker 1: really interesting one to me because I really liked him
Speaker 1: on tape and I was actually listening to Dane on
Speaker 1: a podcast with Lance Zerline, and I think it was
Speaker 1: Lance who said he had heard some things from some
Speaker 1: teams and that maybe we should expect a slide from Mattabike.
Speaker 1: There's some character stuff there. There is, and that's something
Speaker 1: that I've verified as well. Some teams a little worried
Speaker 1: about that, but some teams are not. It's one of
Speaker 1: those things where there's no firm opinion there. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw out a what about Zach Bond? How do we
Speaker 1: feel about him as a possibility at fifty one? I
Speaker 1: like it. You would have to convince me that they're
Speaker 1: really going to be pretty darn multiple and what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do defensively, because you know, we've heard them talk
Speaker 1: about use the word SAM slash DPR designated pass rusher,
Speaker 1: and I think that fits him really well when you
Speaker 1: watch him at Wisconsin. His ability to hold the edge
Speaker 1: with one arm, which I think they teach at Wisconsin
Speaker 1: really really well. His ability to do that combined with
Speaker 1: cover and rush the passer. I love the idea of
Speaker 1: Zach Bond. The implementation of Zach Bond would be my
Speaker 1: only question. I'm on board with that too. I mean
Speaker 1: I thought a team like the Ravens was going to
Speaker 1: take him last night because of their ability to fit
Speaker 1: their players. I mean they they whatever talent their players
Speaker 1: have or skills they have, they're at one of those
Speaker 1: staffs to say, okay, well we'll call our scheme towards
Speaker 1: what's your strength. I thought that. You know, this was
Speaker 1: a guy though, I really really liked him because I
Speaker 1: do for you know, he played a little light at
Speaker 1: at at Wisconsin, tried to put on weight for the combine.
Speaker 1: You know it got to do what deluted sample, probably
Speaker 1: trying to put too much water in him to hold
Speaker 1: some weight. But man, this guy, when you watch you play,
Speaker 1: you're thinking like, oh, wait a minute, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: get there. Oh he just did? You know? He's that
Speaker 1: guy everything every time you see him. It's no way, no,
Speaker 1: he made the play. You know, I'm I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan at fifty one. If you got a
Speaker 1: guy like this, I'd be totally on board. That's like
Speaker 1: my twenty seventh best player right there at him as
Speaker 1: a one too. So mister Brugler, talk to me about
Speaker 1: how you would use bond less. I mean, we know
Speaker 1: that he can rush the passer, but what would you
Speaker 1: do with him as a sam linebacker? Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that's where you're I think he's a stack and
Speaker 1: that's how you want to use him, and you don't
Speaker 1: want to completely eliminate him as a rusher a blitzer.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the Cowboys, if they fully
Speaker 1: commit to a three to four, they're gonna need some
Speaker 1: more help at linebacker, especially on the inside, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's how you use him. You move them around, let
Speaker 1: him rush, let them blitz from different angles. And that's
Speaker 1: what Wisconsin did so well. They let him rush from
Speaker 1: so many different angles. And you can but you also
Speaker 1: saw him drop and cover. You saw him You be
Speaker 1: an athlete and do some things in space. So I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of bond As long as you're okay
Speaker 1: with that deluded sample and you know any character concerns,
Speaker 1: I would be all on board with drafting him to
Speaker 1: fifty one. Here we go, the Jacksonville Jaguars still on
Speaker 1: the clock. We'll get their pick here in just a second.
Speaker 1: Because the pick is in, we're just waiting to see
Speaker 1: who the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to take here, and
Speaker 1: then we'll be able to kind of reset and be
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to the Dallas Cowboys picking at
Speaker 1: fifty one right here on one oh five three the
Speaker 1: Fan and on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Here is the commissioner.
Speaker 1: We're the forty second pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars select Laviska Channault wide receiver Colorado. There
Speaker 1: you go, that is a dangerous, dangerous man with the
Speaker 1: football in his hands. Maybe not the most polished or
Speaker 1: developed receiver in terms of route running and being a
Speaker 1: complete player, but you let him have the ball and
Speaker 1: it becomes a party when people are trying to tackle him. Well,
Speaker 1: he was a playmaker at Colorado. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a guy who profiles more as maybe an X but
Speaker 1: you could put him in the slot. They put him
Speaker 1: in the backfield, had some handoff and some gadget plays
Speaker 1: with him as well. I just I like him overall.
Speaker 1: Did have some turf toe issue, I believe in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: I think he had surgery to repair that, or even
Speaker 1: maybe it was a He had some torn labor stuff
Speaker 1: there too, so some injury concerned. But a DeSoto kid,
Speaker 1: Texas high school football DFW product, and I think he's
Speaker 1: a great player. Honestly, I like this pick. The Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears on the clock at number forty three, as we
Speaker 1: work our way towards fifty one, where the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna pick. You're listening to the twenty twenty NFL
Speaker 1: Draft on one oh five three the fan in Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com bank you're on the Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com side of things, and Laviskas Chenault desto goal product
Speaker 1: now going to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Kavanaugh was getting up.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask him a question, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back to Brian Broad and said, Okay, Kavana, go
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. No, you're fine, go get
Speaker 1: it done. I'll ask I'll ask Brian. You're good, You're good.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to it. But Brian, I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you. We kind of gave some of our picks
Speaker 1: Dan and David and myself in terms of some of
Speaker 1: the guys you're starting to hone in on last night.
Speaker 1: We got to about pick twelve before we started seeing
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb as a possibility. Do you see any guys
Speaker 1: that kind of starts sticking out to you. Maybe it's Bond,
Speaker 1: maybe it's somebody else. Yeah, I tell you what. As
Speaker 1: I looked down the board here, you know, I was
Speaker 1: worried about the Bears of being a team that might
Speaker 1: take Diggs. You know, they've got two picks ahead of you.
Speaker 1: I think the tight end is in play here for
Speaker 1: the Bears. In one of these picks, the kid the
Speaker 1: first time, I believe it's gonna be commet, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be taken off this board. And so I was kind
Speaker 1: of hearing some whispers that the Bears, but they also
Speaker 1: heard some whispers about Diggs being a part of one
Speaker 1: of these two picks. So I was a little bit
Speaker 1: concerned about that. You know, I still like the way
Speaker 1: the board's holding up. I like the fact that there's
Speaker 1: still corners there. I like the fact that there's still
Speaker 1: some safeties there defensive end. I mean, you know this,
Speaker 1: this this board is all right right now. But like
Speaker 1: I say, we need some more of those. If you're
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan, you need some more of those offensive
Speaker 1: players to go off. If you want to get down
Speaker 1: to get one of these these defensive players we just
Speaker 1: talked about, Well, you look at forty five that could
Speaker 1: be with the Buccaneers. That could be an offensive pick.
Speaker 1: The Falcons could go offensive side of the football since
Speaker 1: they went with aj Terrell in the first round. Jets,
Speaker 1: Steelers all need some offensive help. And you already mentioned
Speaker 1: the Bears who have two picks in the next nine
Speaker 1: to potentially address a tight end issue. But now the
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh's back will ask Jeff, some of the players that
Speaker 1: you're kind of starting to look at, kind of at
Speaker 1: least highlighting maybe that blinking light like Steven Jones talked
Speaker 1: about yesterday in terms of the players that could start
Speaker 1: showing up as a potential on your board. I guess
Speaker 1: my blinking light at the moment is Zach Bond, the
Speaker 1: guy we already talked about. He's my highest rated player. Left.
Speaker 1: After him, I would go to Christian Fault in the
Speaker 1: LSU corner, Trevon Diggs the Alabama corner, and after that
Speaker 1: a Keem Davis Gaither at linebacker. I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of I know when I run simulations, I can get
Speaker 1: him in the third or fourth round. But I've got
Speaker 1: him in the second. I'm a really big fan of his.
Speaker 1: And then aj Epenesa, Julio Julian o'kwara off of the edge.
Speaker 1: Those are my top guys. What about Jeremy Chin. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard. Chin's name kind of floated around here. I
Speaker 1: know Brian mentioned some of those safeties. They're still delping
Speaker 1: in Winfield there. But Chin's another guy that's intriguing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Chin, I really am. And
Speaker 1: I maybe you know he's going against accountants and doctors
Speaker 1: and whatever else the games he's playing against and bankers
Speaker 1: and who else. But you watch him, he can cover
Speaker 1: some ground, you know, when he's running, he's getting finished.
Speaker 1: I think he can cover you know, they moved him
Speaker 1: around at Southern roy he had different responsibilities. It looks
Speaker 1: like the Bears pick is in. But I'm a fantas guy.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the commissioner right now if we could.
Speaker 1: It looks like we would just we'll talk about this selection.
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't have the commissioner here up on the side,
Speaker 1: so we'll talk through it. Make the pick regardless of
Speaker 1: whether or not we can hear it. Yeah, I was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I thought we would go through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's cool. Commet, So here we go, col Commet
Speaker 1: the tight end. Okay, dang it. Yeah, there's your pen
Speaker 1: three right there, right top tight end off the board.
Speaker 1: By the way, I forgot a name because I was
Speaker 1: scrolled over on my board. I didn't have the safeties up.
Speaker 1: Grant Delpitt is in my top three of who I
Speaker 1: would want to make it to the Cowboys at fifty one.
Speaker 1: I just real quick, Jeff, I just I want to
Speaker 1: throw this point out there, and there's I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no way for me to say this without being a hater,
Speaker 1: I guess, but do it that. I I this is
Speaker 1: what I bring the value for because all of y'all
Speaker 1: think that you're actually GMS, and I'm just over here
Speaker 1: to remind you should be. I'm just over here to
Speaker 1: remind you of what the Cowboys actually do. And I'll
Speaker 1: buy you all dinner if they draft Jeremy Chin in
Speaker 1: the second round if it take that, Can I get
Speaker 1: dinner if they take Delpit? Well, Dave is saying that
Speaker 1: because he knows that Will McClay won't take a small
Speaker 1: small You're damn right, That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: sure did you write a story about that. I sure did.
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time. They haven't drafted
Speaker 1: a non Division one football player since twenty thirteen, and
Speaker 1: that was in the third round. It was also before
Speaker 1: the process. Uh, JJ Wilcox, b W web and JJ
Speaker 1: Wilcox in the same draft, but that was before Will
Speaker 1: took over. They have not done it since the smallest
Speaker 1: there with State. Yeah, exactly. If they go FCS in
Speaker 1: the top fifty one, I'll take you all to a
Speaker 1: fast food restaurant of your choice. Yeah. Nice, quite a
Speaker 1: few that I like their Dave and I can run
Speaker 1: a wallet up there because I don't get meals, I
Speaker 1: get individual items to watch yourself. You got it all right, Cleveland.
Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty NFL Draft with Jeff Cavanaugh,
Speaker 1: Brian brought Us, Dane Hellman, Dane Brugler, and Kyle Yeomans
Speaker 1: Ollie cow We're to number forty four, working our way
Speaker 1: to fifty one for the Dallas Cowboys. We've got the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns on the clock right now. The first tight
Speaker 1: end is off the board as Cole Comet is going
Speaker 1: to be a Chicago Bear, and so you've lost the
Speaker 1: top tight end off of a lot of people's boards.
Speaker 1: There to the Chicago Bears. You have the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers on the clock, and we were just talking about
Speaker 1: some of the names that you'd love to see make
Speaker 1: it to fifty one for the Cowboys, and I will
Speaker 1: tell you the top four that I am watching our
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, Wisconsin linebacker, slash Edge, Grant Delpit safety at LSU,
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton cornerback at LSU, and Trevon Diggs cornerback at Alabama.
Speaker 1: So let's just round table here. Which names have I
Speaker 1: left off that should be in that conversation? Well, I
Speaker 1: was just gonna go through the Browns needs real quick
Speaker 1: if I could, Joe that we talked about that with
Speaker 1: the guard, safety, and edge, So keep an eye on
Speaker 1: those posessional linebacker and there ye linebacker. Well yeah, linebacker
Speaker 1: and linebacker and safety. Those are the two big ones
Speaker 1: for for the Browns. Uh, And that's what I would
Speaker 1: expect here. But uh, the both of them, but both
Speaker 1: of them are big needs. I wouldn't be surprised at either.
Speaker 1: But this is we mentioned at the top. This is
Speaker 1: a the sweet spot for the safeties, and the Browns
Speaker 1: already traded back once because they think they feel good
Speaker 1: about a couple of these guys. Uh, if they want
Speaker 1: to go safety, whether that's Chin, it's Delpit, Windfield, So
Speaker 1: that could be a direction they're going here, Dan and
Speaker 1: the new general manager there? His style? Is he a
Speaker 1: numbers guy? What is his what is his uh way
Speaker 1: he operates? Well, yeah, there's no secret you know that
Speaker 1: the Browns front office is a very analytically driven um.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, uh, you know, we don't know.
Speaker 1: This is the first year general manager. Andrew Berry is
Speaker 1: the youngest general manager in the league. We've never seen
Speaker 1: him in charge of a draft room before, so we
Speaker 1: just don't know. We don't have any draft trends. We
Speaker 1: don't understand fully just how he's going to use these
Speaker 1: metrics to draft players. You know, could be a Jeremy
Speaker 1: Chin who had the production, who has the testing but
Speaker 1: all at the FCS level. Could be an Antone Winfield
Speaker 1: who had tremendous production FBS but doesn't have the size,
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit is a mix of all that. So I
Speaker 1: think we're not really sure just how the metrics are
Speaker 1: going to drive the Browns thinking when it comes to
Speaker 1: draft picks. Yea. Does Delpitt fit that metrics kind of
Speaker 1: a system? Though? If you talk about this he just
Speaker 1: he's done his pro day, he does. I mean it's
Speaker 1: not the same as the combine. But if you just
Speaker 1: take his forty time and his height and weight, you
Speaker 1: would be projecting that he's a really good athlete at
Speaker 1: that size. You mean his thirty eight yard time probably.
Speaker 1: I mean if Karen Dansler ran in the four threes,
Speaker 1: then Grant Delpitt might a run a four one. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. We don't know with Delpit. Teams are
Speaker 1: going to take those times with grain of salt, so
Speaker 1: we don't know how that might affect some of the
Speaker 1: decision making when it comes to drafting players. So we
Speaker 1: wait for the Cleveland Browns pick at forty four, and
Speaker 1: then we'll have forty five, six more picks before the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I can do math, and we'll see which
Speaker 1: direction they're going here, hopefully whatever the Cowboys don't want.
Speaker 1: So does that mean I want them to pick a
Speaker 1: linebacker stay away from the safety group? Is that probably?
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of a pipe dream, though, I
Speaker 1: think safety is probably where they're gonna go here. That's
Speaker 1: messed up. You think the Browns go safety here or
Speaker 1: ye think? Yeah, Yeah, I think it's their biggest need
Speaker 1: for sure. I think the next couple of picks between
Speaker 1: now and the Cowboys could be offense, but I think
Speaker 1: safety's the biggest need for the Browns here by far. Well,
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them linebacker though. Yeah. I'm right
Speaker 1: there with you, Jeff. Yeah, I'd like to see them
Speaker 1: leave that alone. Let those safeties hang out until the
Speaker 1: Cowboy pick. Anybody want to try to guess what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are thinking right now amongst the names that we're mentioning,
Speaker 1: any preferences that they might have, Dave, I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are looking at their second round grades, however many
Speaker 1: of them they have, and thinking that they have more
Speaker 1: on the list than those that have been taken. And
Speaker 1: they've definitely they've lost some guys like Xavier McKinney. Obviously
Speaker 1: they've lost a few. But I think I can come
Speaker 1: up with eight to twelve names that they probably feel
Speaker 1: good about. And Jeff's fantastic arithmetic. Just let us know
Speaker 1: that there's only six to go, so the numbers add
Speaker 1: up that somebody they feel pretty good about should be there.
Speaker 1: I wasn't count in Cleveland, that'd be seven to go.
Speaker 1: Oh excuse me, I'm sorry. Yeah, you remember remember the
Speaker 1: Browns last year in the second round they took Greedy Williams,
Speaker 1: who at one point was thought to be a very
Speaker 1: high first round pick. And could they do that again
Speaker 1: in the second round with an LSU There's no question.
Speaker 1: And you guys have got me convinced you're going to
Speaker 1: take a safety. Here's the commissioner to In the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft, Cleveland Brown select Grant Delpit, defensive back. Jerks.
Speaker 1: I think that would have been my favorite guy left
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, So that would have gotten to be
Speaker 1: real excited. That would have been, to me, a great
Speaker 1: pick to get Grant Delpit. And we'd talk about, oh,
Speaker 1: his tackling is not real good, and I would have
Speaker 1: said yeah, But to me, he projects as a guy
Speaker 1: that's going to be a turnover guy. I ain't drafting
Speaker 1: him to tackle. I mean, he's gonna need to do it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna need to do it at some point, but
Speaker 1: that's not why I want him on my team. He's
Speaker 1: the last line of defense, Dave. If your last line
Speaker 1: of defense can't bring people down, that's a problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know what he can do. He can step
Speaker 1: in front of passes and take him the other way,
Speaker 1: which is something the Cowboys haven't had in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's probably we think, or at least I think
Speaker 1: that's a Cowboy potential target that goes off the board
Speaker 1: right there. And so now we're at forty five with
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. They will be followed by Denver and Atlanta
Speaker 1: as we are ticking our way on down the board
Speaker 1: towards fifty one. Hey, Dane, does do the Browns know
Speaker 1: that they're in Big ten country? Because why do they?
Speaker 1: Why did? I mean, how many LSU players do they
Speaker 1: have at this point? My god? I mean they drafted
Speaker 1: Williams last year, they got the receivers, so Dell and Jarvis.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I know you want me to
Speaker 1: set you're setting me up for this. But LSU is
Speaker 1: a pretty good school. They produced some good talent down there.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, actually, I think people have talked about
Speaker 1: this ironically. I mean, the New Orleans Saints are Ohio State,
Speaker 1: you know, the Ohio State Club, So I guess it
Speaker 1: only makes sense they're trading off. True, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's an Ohio thing. You know. The Bengals went with
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Uh, but you know, Ohio just kind of
Speaker 1: put him on loan for two years. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: him back here in Ohio. Now I want to delp it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I think. Delpit was definitely on my short list
Speaker 1: of like the four names that would get me the
Speaker 1: most excited. McKinney was the other one. He was one
Speaker 1: of them too. You seem a little down right now, Dave. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and I get it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get egged. Is the LSU Homer and I
Speaker 1: deserve it. That's fair, but it's accurate. I mean, he
Speaker 1: could have gone to any school, and I think it
Speaker 1: would be good value. I would have been just as
Speaker 1: excited about Davier McKinney. And now I think, you know,
Speaker 1: for those of us that have been waiting for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to find that heir to Darren Woodson, it doesn't
Speaker 1: look likely to happen this year because, I mean, Antoine
Speaker 1: Winfield still around. We haven't heard any buzz about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Antoine Winfield. Yeah, we don't think. We mean,
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger's gone to I don't think they would look
Speaker 1: at Jeremy Chen at least not this early. So it's
Speaker 1: hard to see that starting caliber safety coming out of
Speaker 1: this draft. So now I turned my attention to defensive
Speaker 1: lineman and corner because those are the two positions that
Speaker 1: are still kind of hanging around well. And I think
Speaker 1: you the guy who gets me most excited is still
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton, another LSU guy at fifty one. Jeff, you're
Speaker 1: shaking your head, but I think fifty one for Christian
Speaker 1: Fulton would get me extremely excited. Oh no, me too.
Speaker 1: I was I was communicating behind the scenes there. I
Speaker 1: thought you were. I thought you were reacting. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: At pick forty five, we have lost another safety. The
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers take Antoine Winfield Junior. And so I
Speaker 1: agree with you guys right now. I think if you're
Speaker 1: looking at the board, you're probably being pushed more towards
Speaker 1: the defensive line and you're being pushed towards corner there
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, we got Trevon Diggs out there, you
Speaker 1: got Christian Fulton out there. I'm keeping an eye on
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, who is my best player available. And then
Speaker 1: on defensive line, Jordan Elliott, Justin, Mattabecke, aj Epanessa. There's
Speaker 1: still names there. So the Cowboys knew they were gonna
Speaker 1: lose a bunch of their guys waiting out. The teams
Speaker 1: aren't gonna cooperate with whatever you want as the draft
Speaker 1: goes on. But yeah, you've got you got a handful
Speaker 1: of safety's gone. Xavier McKinney, Grant Delpit, Antoine Winfield, Kyle
Speaker 1: Dugger all off of the board at this point. And
Speaker 1: so we'll see which direction they're going to go. But
Speaker 1: if like cornerback, defensive line is where at least my
Speaker 1: eyes keep going on the board for them, did we
Speaker 1: we keep excuse me, do where we keep talking about
Speaker 1: though that if they got wiped out, that Diggs was
Speaker 1: gonna be their guy. I mean, was that you guys
Speaker 1: talking and talking about that potentially if they got completely
Speaker 1: if the guy so to me, Yeah, the guys like Yo, Diggs, Bond,
Speaker 1: I mean, if they go defense, those and those guys
Speaker 1: are there, I mean, that's great. I'm feeling great right
Speaker 1: now about that. We're just trying to fight through this
Speaker 1: little mini depression of the safeties going off the board.
Speaker 1: But there's still plenty of names that you like here,
Speaker 1: let me, I do worry about the Bears though, take
Speaker 1: him Diggs, I do. I was gonna be I'll be
Speaker 1: the optimist for a second. And it's kind of the
Speaker 1: same line as Kyle Dugger. What I said when the
Speaker 1: Patriots drafted him is I think, you know, we argued
Speaker 1: about Antoine Winfield earlier. A lot of us really like him.
Speaker 1: We have no indication that the Cowboys did so. Inside
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys war room, they might view Antoine Winfield
Speaker 1: going as a win in which I don't agree with that,
Speaker 1: but sure they view him possibly as you know, they're
Speaker 1: cheering that because they're saying, yes, keep pushing Trevon Diggs
Speaker 1: down the board. That's a okay. So Antoine Winfield going
Speaker 1: to Tampa is a loss for me, but I'm not
Speaker 1: sure it's a loss for the Cowboys front office. Do
Speaker 1: you think Tampa's GM's daughter is really excited about the pick.
Speaker 1: She was just hugging her dad. She looked like she
Speaker 1: was about nine years old. Do you think that she
Speaker 1: knows who Antoine Winfield is and she made a big fan,
Speaker 1: big fan of way Antoine Winfield. She's hoping they don't
Speaker 1: lose their house. You know, I don't think she's thinking
Speaker 1: about that either. He's a commissioner. The Denver Broncos select
Speaker 1: kJ Hambler wide receiver Penn State. There you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you watch Drew Locke play at the end of
Speaker 1: the year, you know it's time to drop forty burgers
Speaker 1: in Denver. So that is a nice That's that's not
Speaker 1: my top receiver available. He would have been my one
Speaker 1: two third receiver a bit available. But you totally understand
Speaker 1: the appeal of kJ Hamler at Penn State under five nine,
Speaker 1: under one hundred and eighty pounds. But the speed, the acceleration,
Speaker 1: the fits that he gives guys that are trying to
Speaker 1: stay in front of him when he's running routes, kJ
Speaker 1: Hamler is gonna be a fun addition in Denver and
Speaker 1: for a route runner like Jerry Judy and for your
Speaker 1: big receiver in Courtland Sutton having the speed threat lined
Speaker 1: up out there with them, man, that's a lot of fun. Well,
Speaker 1: last year's first round pick, Noah Fan, you add him
Speaker 1: to the mix and all of a sudden, this offense,
Speaker 1: if you can protect Drew Locke, yeah, I think John Ellaway,
Speaker 1: former quarterback, he's looking at this offense and smiling about
Speaker 1: the potential. He's got a lot of drops though, right,
Speaker 1: a lot of drops. He dropped up believe seventeen percent
Speaker 1: of his catchaball passes. And I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: as his hands are bad. It's just he is a
Speaker 1: guy that's always on the move, so he was looking
Speaker 1: to run before he finishes the catch. I think it's
Speaker 1: more of a focus issue with him. But the blur speed,
Speaker 1: that's what you're drafting here, before and after the catch.
Speaker 1: He has the potential to be uh, he's not. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna have a lot of singles, a
Speaker 1: lot of doubles. But look at his triples, look at
Speaker 1: his home runs. He is going to put up some
Speaker 1: big time numbers. Without speed. It's steal bases too. There
Speaker 1: you go. If you could do that in football, he
Speaker 1: would steal bases. It is now the Atlanta Falcons on
Speaker 1: the clock and their pick is in. I love the
Speaker 1: second and third round that I'm telling you. I love
Speaker 1: the clock getting shorter. Yeah, it's outstanding. I got these
Speaker 1: teams one minute is what they ought to do. We'll
Speaker 1: have some fun then, all right. Rapid fire, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: rapid fire. This thing. Let's see how good we are
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Speaker 1: Falcons pick, getting closer and closer to fifty one where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are picking. You're listening to the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft on one oh five three The Fan
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. As we continue here on
Speaker 1: the internet side of things, and Marlon or excuse me,
Speaker 1: kJ Hammler. The last pick here for the Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield Junior. Before that, Grant Delpit. So you have
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of options here coming up
Speaker 1: for the Falcons. The Jets, Steelers bear so five picks
Speaker 1: until the or four picks until the Cowboys make a selection.
Speaker 1: But is this a chance here for the Falcons to
Speaker 1: go with a defensive tackle here? I know that's kind
Speaker 1: of one of their picks. They could go a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: They didn't necessarily address that yesterday whenever Cede Lamb was
Speaker 1: on the board. But maybe they don't see Julio as
Speaker 1: maybe the same guy, or at least they want to
Speaker 1: plan for the future there and give him some help.
Speaker 1: What did the line for the Falcons? Lucky Photo is
Speaker 1: a name to keep on the Yeah, absolutely, Dan, You're
Speaker 1: you're doing a great job right now. That absolutely that
Speaker 1: if you talk to the Falcons. You know, one of
Speaker 1: those names that they kept bringing up. I was asking
Speaker 1: about a million guys and they was like, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Futo? And I'm like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: like he plays big man, lateral, gets outside and all.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, what do you have? And mim said, well,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it like a second third round. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's more of a second round kind of guy, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I this this seems like a very very
Speaker 1: good uh fit for them. You know, Tommy d Tommy
Speaker 1: de Mitchrof he just kind of takes his guys. He
Speaker 1: doesn't care what round or not. You know, he just
Speaker 1: you like my guy? Great if you don't like my guys,
Speaker 1: So what you know kind of a thing. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Futo would be a guy that I would definitely keep
Speaker 1: an eye on here with Falcons, pick, I just want
Speaker 1: to fast forward to fifty one. Don't take a dB.
Speaker 1: You know, the weights alone. The weight is what makes
Speaker 1: it fun because we got to sit here and sweat
Speaker 1: these out. And that's I mean, shoot, I spent twenty
Speaker 1: I spent a half hour convinced the Falcons we're gonna
Speaker 1: draft Calavon Chason last night. Maybe they go pass rush here,
Speaker 1: Curves Weaver, I think you have to go pass rush
Speaker 1: here if you're the Falcons. I mean, everybody I know
Speaker 1: that's connected to the Falcons was saying that's their number
Speaker 1: one need. And honestly, I think did not get any
Speaker 1: pressure on anybody last year by any means no, And
Speaker 1: it looks like Tack McKinley's on his way out. They
Speaker 1: did sign fil Dante Fowler, Vic Beasley's no in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: So yeah, pash Rushers definitely near the top of the list. Well,
Speaker 1: you've got guys like Mattabeke who's also there, Jordan and
Speaker 1: Elliott out of Missouri, another prospect Neville Gallimore going along
Speaker 1: with Lucky Foe two that you guys mentioned you could
Speaker 1: throw Marlon Davidson maybe in that mix. I know he's
Speaker 1: kind of a tweener either interior or a defense or
Speaker 1: excusement or an edge at the same time, played a
Speaker 1: little bit of both at Auburn. But I mean there's
Speaker 1: plenty of these individual I guess pass rushers, defensive lineman
Speaker 1: in general that are gonna put pressure on the quarterback
Speaker 1: here kind of that sweet spot. Would you talked about
Speaker 1: the sweet spot of safeties, Brian in this middle part
Speaker 1: of the second round, you can say the same thing
Speaker 1: about defensive tackle. Yeah, I mean that's I was looking
Speaker 1: down at these guys. I mean it said Mattabeke, Elliott Gallimore,
Speaker 1: James Lynch. I know people are talking about James Lynch,
Speaker 1: stop playing in but playing defensive tackle from Baylor. So
Speaker 1: I mean there's some there's a sweet spot, but I
Speaker 1: think it's probably a little bit of a round later
Speaker 1: for these guys. But you know, hey, some people might say, well,
Speaker 1: we're not going to get back around to these guys.
Speaker 1: We got to do it right now. And then when
Speaker 1: you look at the Jets, the Steelers, and the Bears,
Speaker 1: so now you're starting to narrow it down because you've
Speaker 1: still got those defensive minds that we talked about for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that are still on the clock, are still
Speaker 1: on the board. Rather with Digs, Fulton, Bond, who are
Speaker 1: all still available. If the Falcons go with somebody different here,
Speaker 1: then that even includes the chance that all three of
Speaker 1: those names are available when it comes around. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like the commissioner is going to tell us who
Speaker 1: they're going to take right here. I know we're still
Speaker 1: on dot com. The twenty twenty NFL Draft continues on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three The Fan.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. It's Marlin Davidson, the defensive end
Speaker 1: out of Auburn, going to the Atlanta Falcons at number
Speaker 1: forty seven, So there are three picks left before the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Go ahead Dane and say, hey, Jeff asked
Speaker 1: me who I had the Falcons taken to my mon craft.
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler with Dallas Cowboys dot Com, our finest scout
Speaker 1: and all the land, along with Brian brought Us and
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman, Kyle Yeoman's Jeff cavnot twenty five three The
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Dane who'd you have
Speaker 1: the Falcons taken there? In the second round, I had
Speaker 1: Marlin Davidson, a defensive tackle who could beat that jumbo
Speaker 1: defensive end for the Falcons can do a lot of things,
Speaker 1: so I thought a natural fit for them. That one
Speaker 1: of those names I heard, along with Lucky Folk too,
Speaker 1: along with a few other ones. Marlin Davidson a good fit.
Speaker 1: After they decided to pass on defensive line in the
Speaker 1: first round, j Tarrell at a clumpse in the corner,
Speaker 1: they go defensive line now here in the second with
Speaker 1: that quote unquote other defensive lineman out of Auburn, but
Speaker 1: a guy who had a big time senior season along
Speaker 1: with Derek Brown, I had. So I struggled with him
Speaker 1: a little bit on tape because I was watching him
Speaker 1: stand up and play defensive end on a four man line,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at him like that guy looks like
Speaker 1: a three technique to me, and so I just I
Speaker 1: struggled with him a little bit. You saw the power,
Speaker 1: you saw what guys would like about him, but he
Speaker 1: looked like he was out of position to me. So
Speaker 1: I had trouble projecting him and I went with a
Speaker 1: two three. But is this about where you were about
Speaker 1: where you had him, Dane, Yeah, I thought there was
Speaker 1: a chance he could sneak into the late first. You know,
Speaker 1: a team like the Patriots or you know, when they
Speaker 1: look at scheme and what they're looking for, that inside
Speaker 1: outside versatility, some teams really value that. But a little
Speaker 1: surprised that. You know, we haven't heard aj Epenessa's name right,
Speaker 1: He's still floating around there. Marlon Davidson a good player though,
Speaker 1: and put up double digit tackles for loss this past year,
Speaker 1: and they let him rush off the edge at three
Speaker 1: hundred pounds and he did a real nice job. So
Speaker 1: this for me is shaping up right now is the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks pick is in and they picked Texas tech
Speaker 1: linebacker Jordan Brooks in the first round. So Seattle does
Speaker 1: not care what your rankings are. They're going to pick
Speaker 1: their guys. They're on the clock now. Then we'll have Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: then we'll have Chicago, then we'll have the Cowboys. And
Speaker 1: for me, I'm looking at Zach Bond. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton, the cornered LSU and Trevon Diggs the corner
Speaker 1: at Alabama, and I'm zeroed in on three names. Whether
Speaker 1: that's smart or not, here's a commissioner the forty eighth
Speaker 1: pick to the Seattle Seahawks. With the forty eighth pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select
Speaker 1: Darryl Taylor, defensive end, Tennessee. Okay, that's another guy that
Speaker 1: I kind of liked. Darryl Taylor. I thought in the
Speaker 1: second or third round, I thought that that was a
Speaker 1: guy that's kind of a full sized defensive end. He
Speaker 1: plays with some power, He shows you a little something
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. I think Daryl Taylor is a
Speaker 1: nice prospect, but he is a fake pen throw for
Speaker 1: me because I'm sitting here looking at my best player
Speaker 1: available being a linebacker slash edge and a couple of
Speaker 1: the other ones being corners, and I'm wanting them to
Speaker 1: hold on for the Cowboys and then have them make
Speaker 1: that pick. But Darryl Taylor, Dane Burglar Scouting Report, a
Speaker 1: guy that looks the part. When you talk about a
Speaker 1: pass rusher, if you're gonna build one, it would look
Speaker 1: similar to Daryl Taylor. You just wish you would let
Speaker 1: it loose a little more. When you watch his tape,
Speaker 1: he just leaves you wanting a little more. So the
Speaker 1: idea of Darryl Taylor excites me. The tape in the
Speaker 1: production didn't necessarily excite me as much. Yeah, he is right.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. He is absolutely right about this guy,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think there's more power here than
Speaker 1: there is anything else, you know. I mean, he will
Speaker 1: not guys back, He'll hold the point of attack. I
Speaker 1: did see him run some balls down from the back
Speaker 1: side with this guy. But yeah, you're just he's another
Speaker 1: of those guys you're just kind of waiting for him
Speaker 1: to really turn it loose. And but man, he's got
Speaker 1: the body type to do it well, and he's starting
Speaker 1: to turn it loose because he's growing into the position.
Speaker 1: His first two years or twenty sixteen twenty eighteen, his
Speaker 1: first two healthy full seasons, he had fifty three total pressures.
Speaker 1: Last year he had forty four alone. And this is
Speaker 1: like we kind of talked about earlier, Like Jeff said
Speaker 1: a moment ago, Seattle must have really liked this guy
Speaker 1: because they traded a third to move up and get him.
Speaker 1: So the fact that they're so impressed with the fact
Speaker 1: of giving a third round pick to move up just
Speaker 1: a couple of spots to select him at forty eight.
Speaker 1: Either they were worried somebody else was going to come
Speaker 1: and snag him, or they just really are sold on
Speaker 1: the power this guy brings because he's a brute force guy.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the last couple of years, Seattle is
Speaker 1: the team that strikes me as we don't care what
Speaker 1: the world thinks about these guys. This is what we
Speaker 1: think because LJ. Collier sneaking into the first round, Jordan
Speaker 1: Brooks this year in the first round, the tech linebacker,
Speaker 1: and then Darryl Taylor right there. They don't care what
Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, they're picking there guys. My intern n
Speaker 1: doesn't care at all. Best story, Can we Okay, I'm Jeff.
Speaker 1: Jeff did a great job of laying out a short list,
Speaker 1: but can we try to zero in on pick fifty one? Here?
Speaker 1: I'm going to Diggs. I'm sweating Chicago right now. We're
Speaker 1: we're not even going to talk about other options. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know their interest level
Speaker 1: in Fulton, but I actually like the player that Fulton
Speaker 1: is today more than the player Diggs is today. But
Speaker 1: I totally get the I have them right next to
Speaker 1: each other. I totally get the appeal of Trevon Diggs,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to forget about Zach Bond. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to figure about Justin Matabek. Absolutely no, No,
Speaker 1: I think there's a great list of guys there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm totally psyched out. But me personally, I'm just being
Speaker 1: selfish right now, which I usually am. On this program.
Speaker 1: You are, and so I you know, if I get
Speaker 1: a chance to get my my like eighteenth best player
Speaker 1: off my board, my top fifty one, and it's hit
Speaker 1: this guy. Absolutely, you said, I get my eighth best
Speaker 1: player last night, my eighteenth best player today. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: bring it on in a position that it could absolutely
Speaker 1: they can use. Yeah. I don't disagree at all. I
Speaker 1: just wonder in the in the interest of being a
Speaker 1: devil's advocate, I mean, they would have taken a pass
Speaker 1: rusher if they hadn't had Ceedee Lamb fall in their laps.
Speaker 1: So is that a possibility? I think I think they
Speaker 1: had interest in Darryl Taylor. It's obviously not possible anymore. Um.
Speaker 1: I see Julian o'quara's name sitting there. I see a J. E.
Speaker 1: Panessa still hanging around. Uh, this is a good spot
Speaker 1: to be in. There's Neville Neville Gallimore, how about that.
Speaker 1: I mean the same thing with Matt Matta Bouquet. I
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know if I'm ready to better
Speaker 1: than like Gallimore. I'm not ready to take a defensive
Speaker 1: tackle of fifty one me personally. But I wonder if
Speaker 1: we can rule it out just because it's not what
Speaker 1: we would do they I don't. I don't think the
Speaker 1: player is there to be interested. But anything to the
Speaker 1: talk they've been doing about center, about Peter King talking about, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe Ruise at the end of the first Cowboys trying
Speaker 1: to move back, you could get this. I mean that's
Speaker 1: why I was. I don't mind Cushion Berry got him
Speaker 1: as a two three? Yeah, how about Matt Hennessey. I
Speaker 1: have Hennessey better. I mean, there's the same round, but
Speaker 1: I have him better. I just think he's a better
Speaker 1: athlete than Cushion Berry. Cushion Berry is kind of a
Speaker 1: wide base catch stare long. I'm with you, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he's But I just like Hennessy's athletic ability a little
Speaker 1: bit better. You know. That's kind in the Cowboys run game,
Speaker 1: it seems like they ask a lot of their center
Speaker 1: athletically reach. I don't know how Cushionberry necessarily fits schematically,
Speaker 1: but I do like the player. So the pick is
Speaker 1: in for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here's the commission either getting
Speaker 1: cheered or booed. With the forty ninth pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers select Chase Claypool, receiver. Interesting. So, uh,
Speaker 1: Claypool phenomenal. I mean, you want to talk about the
Speaker 1: size and the athletic ability at the combine. Chase Claypool
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards at Notre Dame last year. He's
Speaker 1: a phenomenal athlete. I had my concerns on tape watching
Speaker 1: him against press coverage and the way that he uses
Speaker 1: that big old body that he's got in terms of
Speaker 1: letting people move into the sideline. But end of the
Speaker 1: second round, for that size and that level of athleticism,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's tough to fight that too hard. Dane,
Speaker 1: what did you think about Claypool? Well, and historically speaking,
Speaker 1: the Steelers have been such a good drafting team when
Speaker 1: it comes to receive. On Day two, look at just
Speaker 1: In Juju Smith Schuster and your guy last year from Toledo,
Speaker 1: James Washington, h Emmanuel Sanders at one point, uh, the
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown at one point that they have been really
Speaker 1: drafting receivers outside the second round or outside the first
Speaker 1: round has been a strength to this h this organization,
Speaker 1: and they see something in Claypool to take him over
Speaker 1: some of these other receivers that are still on the board.
Speaker 1: Which is interesting, but I mean you set it up
Speaker 1: Jeff six to four, two hundred and thirty eight pounds,
Speaker 1: four four speed. But in terms of his route running,
Speaker 1: his releases a little vanilla, you know, nothing really to
Speaker 1: get excited about as a separator. But he'll go up
Speaker 1: and get the football, he'll run past you. And this
Speaker 1: is a guy who twenty five tackles, big time special
Speaker 1: teams player. Uh, that's gonna you know, the offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and the special teams coordinator, they might be duking it
Speaker 1: out to see who gets to use this guy more. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the offensive coordinator he wins if I
Speaker 1: think so, you want to put my guy on one
Speaker 1: of your special teams. Cool, don't interrupt my meetings. Thanks. So,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears are on the clock at fifty. We
Speaker 1: are one pick away from the Dallas Cowboys at fifty one,
Speaker 1: and I think you're just kind of sit there and
Speaker 1: let the draft come to you. To me, it looks
Speaker 1: really good right now with guys like Christian Fulton, Treva
Speaker 1: on Dig, Zach Bond, Justin Matabeekee, Jordan Elliott, Ajpin Sa
Speaker 1: Julie Allen Johnson. We haven't mentioned his No, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he I guess no. I know that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are really really high on him. He wasn't
Speaker 1: for me. I've got him in the third because I
Speaker 1: actually I didn't trust him in man coverage. But here's
Speaker 1: fifty for the Bears. Here's he's not going to be
Speaker 1: your problem for much longer. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears select Jalen Johnson. All Right, to me, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a dream come true for me because he
Speaker 1: was just a guy that wasn't for me. I understood
Speaker 1: the appeal of the athletic ability, and maybe the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do run a cover three scheme, so maybe it would
Speaker 1: have been a fit. He just wasn't for me in
Speaker 1: terms of his fluidity and man coverage when I watched him.
Speaker 1: But Jayalen Johnson, the Utah cornerback to the Bears. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys are on the clock, will set you up for
Speaker 1: that pick. But Dane, tell us what you thought about
Speaker 1: Jaylen Johnson. There's nothing amazing about what he offers. He's just,
Speaker 1: I think, a solid player. I don't think he has
Speaker 1: any major weaknesses, doesn't have a ton of mental mistakes.
Speaker 1: He'll be a little over aggressive at times. Not the
Speaker 1: biggest guy, not the fastest, but just a solid player.
Speaker 1: Can play inside, outside, can play man, can play zone,
Speaker 1: and a real They call him a professional at Utah
Speaker 1: because the way he carries himself. So I think just
Speaker 1: a solid pick here for Chicago is going to step
Speaker 1: in compete for a starting role as a rookie. All
Speaker 1: right around the horn, Dallas Cowboys on the clock at
Speaker 1: fifty one. I think the way I want to do
Speaker 1: this is everybody, you get one name for that you
Speaker 1: would like and we'll go around the room and we'll
Speaker 1: start with Dave Hellman, one name that you would love
Speaker 1: to see his name called here. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go out of my I'm gonna fix my Homer reputation
Speaker 1: because if I'm picking one guy I'm fine with Trevon Diggs.
Speaker 1: I'm a okay with that's he's a rare guy and
Speaker 1: he I mean, he doesn't have the most freakish athleticism
Speaker 1: in this draft, but to be able to do the
Speaker 1: things that he does at his size, it's really impressive.
Speaker 1: And to put him in a room with a guy
Speaker 1: like Al Harris, who's played cornerback at the highest level,
Speaker 1: you'd like to think you can coax some pretty good
Speaker 1: production out of him. I know his tape's not perfect.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people judge him based on
Speaker 1: what happened against LSU, which is not very fair because
Speaker 1: LSU did that to a lot of people. And I'm
Speaker 1: perfectly comfortable drafting him at this value. How boys have
Speaker 1: to pick in here's the I talked too long. Sorry,
Speaker 1: all of us in the nationale Football League extend our
Speaker 1: sincere condolences to Dak Prescott, whose brother Jason passed away yesterday. Dak,
Speaker 1: our thoughts are with you and your family. Some of
Speaker 1: my best memories growing Oh, they're not going to announce
Speaker 1: the pick. That was just the commissioner offering the condolences
Speaker 1: to the Prescott family. So we was nice that and
Speaker 1: we'll continue around the horn. Add one name to the
Speaker 1: name we've already heard from Dave with Trevon Diggs, Kyle
Speaker 1: Yeoman's well, I think they'll go Digs here because of
Speaker 1: the returnability and the fact that he was the highest
Speaker 1: rated press corner out of the entire class. But I
Speaker 1: would like Christian Fulton here. I think they'll go with Diggs,
Speaker 1: and I'm totally okay with it, But I think I
Speaker 1: just think Fulton is He's higher on my board. I
Speaker 1: liked him a little bit more, so just to add
Speaker 1: the name to it, I would say Fulton, Dane Brugler.
Speaker 1: Add a name to that list and tell us if
Speaker 1: you prefer one that's already named. No, I mean, if
Speaker 1: I'm adding someone to the list and you know, we
Speaker 1: say bond yet, um, you know a player who can
Speaker 1: play linebacker and give you rush. But I mean this
Speaker 1: all comes back to Trevon Diggs, a player that if
Speaker 1: the first sixteen picks played out a certain way, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were considering him at number seventeen and so preach
Speaker 1: if they're able to get him a fifty one, that
Speaker 1: would be uh, you know, kind of an ideal scenario
Speaker 1: for the first two rounds for this team. Brian just
Speaker 1: signing stay. I mean, it's my eighteenth best player on
Speaker 1: the board day It's absolutely right. If they were to
Speaker 1: wipe out situation, they probably would have taken him. If
Speaker 1: they couldn't move, he was a guy they were going
Speaker 1: to consider. I think they got very fortunate here that
Speaker 1: the board fell the way it did. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of great second round players here, guys that very well
Speaker 1: have been first round players. So yeah, I'm being very selfish. Fulton.
Speaker 1: I like him, but I think Diggs is a better player.
Speaker 1: And if Diggs were the pick, when he got to Alabama,
Speaker 1: he was playing wide receiver. So you're looking at it
Speaker 1: at a guy that if if they get him one,
Speaker 1: it's possible it's the best player on their board again,
Speaker 1: which would work out great that this time it falls
Speaker 1: into a big position of need. And two, I think
Speaker 1: a guy who's only played cornerback for three years, if
Speaker 1: he ends up being the pick, so what if he's
Speaker 1: not gonna beat out Cheeto or Anthony Brown or Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis on day one, you'd be looking at the next
Speaker 1: four years with him. Now, this is a yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a long term pick. If he's not a starter
Speaker 1: day one. I'm not worried about it, because that's not
Speaker 1: why you cornerbacks as badly as just to restock that position. Well.
Speaker 1: He also uses his wide receiver experience to outsmart wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Now you could see it on tape. He's very good
Speaker 1: at kind of at least seeing the field, seeing what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and the reacting very quickly. So I think
Speaker 1: overall this would be a fantastic pick if that's into
Speaker 1: who they end up going with. Yeah, we've got ourselves
Speaker 1: pigeonholed in here, which is like the exact opposite at
Speaker 1: least of our broadcast yesterday when we're sitting there watching
Speaker 1: going there is it's not gonna be lamb. It should
Speaker 1: be good be but it's not gonna be. And so
Speaker 1: now we've set the expectation that the Trevon Diggs pick
Speaker 1: is coming. Bond would be a good they would pick here.
Speaker 1: They have to be happy that the board fell the
Speaker 1: way it did. But man, there are names that you're
Speaker 1: least at least you're having to go, Wow, that guy's there,
Speaker 1: you know, having to have that that should we go
Speaker 1: this way, should go that way. I just think Diggs
Speaker 1: is too high on their board. I just that's just
Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about him right now. I
Speaker 1: think he's probably higher and it's more. But if you
Speaker 1: look at big picture, this team has no cornerbacks under
Speaker 1: contract until twenty twenty twenty one. Yeah, that's big, So
Speaker 1: you've got to think about that long term. And now
Speaker 1: you don't have to snag another corner later in the draft,
Speaker 1: even if they do go corner here. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody y'all have talked about, you know, Digs's length gets
Speaker 1: him in trouble because he relies on it too much.
Speaker 1: But like I said, man, this guy's got thirty three
Speaker 1: inch arms, Like I like the the measurables are very impressive.
Speaker 1: And it's at pick fifty one. I'm very fine rolling
Speaker 1: the dice on him developing a little bit more. They've
Speaker 1: got the pick in we are just waiting for the
Speaker 1: announcement of who that pick is, and we are sort
Speaker 1: of zoomed in on who we hope it is. Which man,
Speaker 1: if they make that pick and it's one that we're
Speaker 1: all happy with. Can you think of the last time
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys had picked two players in the draft
Speaker 1: and you went, hey, that's exactly who I would have picked. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's I know. I was trying to think,
Speaker 1: now they're gonna bus there's no there's some Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: so many times we've sat there and gone, oh geez,
Speaker 1: you know, why did they take that guy? We felt
Speaker 1: bad about the situation and trying to make it sound
Speaker 1: better than it was. I think I think, you know,
Speaker 1: if they get if they get Lamb and Digs out
Speaker 1: of this, I think the positivity about the direction they're going,
Speaker 1: I think is very very good with this draft so far. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we are seeing Mike McCarthy, but he's not in
Speaker 1: his seat. It says Mike McCarthy head coach. But it's
Speaker 1: just a chair sitting there, and there's Jerry But here
Speaker 1: comes to Dallas Cowboys pick at number fifty one, with
Speaker 1: the fifty first pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys select Trey Von Diggs, defensive back Alabama. Hey,
Speaker 1: here you go, I think, and there's a decent chance
Speaker 1: they picked their best player available two picks in a row.
Speaker 1: Is that is a guy that we talked about. If
Speaker 1: they were wiped out at seventeen, there's a chance that
Speaker 1: was the pick. It falls into position of need. It's
Speaker 1: a guy that they really really liked. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of Cowboy fans are gonna be really really happy
Speaker 1: with this pick. You want to hit us with the
Speaker 1: scouting report, Dane, this is a like we mentioned before,
Speaker 1: a former receiver who likes to do receiver like things
Speaker 1: at the catch point. And look, if you're looking for
Speaker 1: the most technically refined corner, this is not your guy.
Speaker 1: But as an athlete, he moves really well. And you
Speaker 1: watch his tape Nick Saban and that staff kind of said,
Speaker 1: you know, don't worry about your pedal, don't worry about
Speaker 1: your footwork being perfect, just go be an athlete and
Speaker 1: go cover your guy. And that's exactly what he did,
Speaker 1: and he did at a high level quite often. So
Speaker 1: again I think this in terms of value, this is
Speaker 1: tremendous value to get a player like this outside the
Speaker 1: top fifty, and a guy that, regardless of how we
Speaker 1: felt about him this, we know how high the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were on on him, and so to get him at
Speaker 1: this point just the awesome value for them. Guys, you
Speaker 1: don't see this guy out of balance, you know when
Speaker 1: you watch him play. I mean the d Dane painted
Speaker 1: a great picture of him. But I saw a guy
Speaker 1: that was an aware player. He's got the mirror skills
Speaker 1: and he's plays in ballants. You know. Usually sometimes you
Speaker 1: see quarters when they pedal, they turn and they drive
Speaker 1: and they're like kind of clunky. This kid's not clunky.
Speaker 1: I mean he can move and be a position to
Speaker 1: keep himself in positions. Big, he's long, he attacks the football,
Speaker 1: he's athletic. I think it's it's what the league wants
Speaker 1: at cornerback now, and it's a guy that the best
Speaker 1: football of his life is obviously going to be ahead
Speaker 1: of him as he's only played corner for three years
Speaker 1: and he's already got the tape of a guy that
Speaker 1: deserves to get picked in the top fifty. So it's
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs going to the Dallas Cowboys at fifty one,
Speaker 1: and we will continue on as we march through the
Speaker 1: second round and into the third round. Here, you're listening
Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five
Speaker 1: three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com bank. You're
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com side of things, and
Speaker 1: we're also live on social now here on the Draft
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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dave Hellman and the great Dane Brugler
Speaker 1: as Treyvon Diggs is your newest Dallas Cowboys. So now
Speaker 1: the draft class consists of Seedee Lamb from Oklahoma Trayvon
Speaker 1: Digs from Alabama. I think that's a pretty solid first
Speaker 1: two picks, to say the least. Moving forward, I think
Speaker 1: I've yeah, I would go right ahead. I just I
Speaker 1: think you're plucking right from the very top of your board,
Speaker 1: and the fact that that lines up for you in
Speaker 1: the second round is that's awesome. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: of good fortune, and when you're picking from the top
Speaker 1: of your board, it's usually gonna turn out pretty well.
Speaker 1: It's gonna turn out well, and then you also go ahead,
Speaker 1: Dave No. I just I got really scared about Diggs
Speaker 1: when we started hearing that he could be the first
Speaker 1: round pick. I think most of y'all would agree with me,
Speaker 1: But it's amazing how your opinion changes about a guy
Speaker 1: the further he falls down the board. The same thing
Speaker 1: for aj Epinessa. I wouldn't want to touch him in
Speaker 1: the top thirty, but you're looking at him at fifty one.
Speaker 1: And now you look at Trevon Diggs starting experience in
Speaker 1: the SEC again. I mean I've said it five times already,
Speaker 1: Like he's just rare from a build standpoint, Like you
Speaker 1: don't find cornerbacks that look like him very often, and
Speaker 1: you don't. It would be great if he is good
Speaker 1: enough to step in and start, but you don't need it.
Speaker 1: You've got three guys that can do it. And so
Speaker 1: that gives Al Harris and the rest of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: defensive coaches time to work with him. And this could
Speaker 1: be an even better value next season when you do
Speaker 1: need him to start. I just you know, at this value,
Speaker 1: I really really like to pick a lot. This guy
Speaker 1: has played in some big time games. I mean he
Speaker 1: has lined up in national championship games, playoff games. I
Speaker 1: mean he gets coached hard. At Alabama. You ever go
Speaker 1: to an Alabama practice, Nick Saban is yelling at these
Speaker 1: kids the whole time. Only Gary Patterson yells at his
Speaker 1: kids more over at TCU. I mean, these kids to
Speaker 1: go play a football game as a break for them.
Speaker 1: They I mean, that's what I like about those Alabama
Speaker 1: kids are a little banged up the way you know,
Speaker 1: they get banged up, beat up because they play a
Speaker 1: lot of football. But man, this kid, I think he'll
Speaker 1: come in here. He'll be competitive, and that's what we need.
Speaker 1: We need some quarterbacks. He'll be compet This kid won't
Speaker 1: let you run across the field and catch the ball
Speaker 1: on him. I mean that guy, it's gonna knock the
Speaker 1: ball down. He'll do that. And kind of going off
Speaker 1: of that, he's still level headed because he's been around
Speaker 1: a pedigree of a family member who's had success in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Of course, his brother Stefon Diggs, the wide
Speaker 1: receiver who had a ton of success in Many Minnesota.
Speaker 1: And then turns around and he goes over to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: We'll see what he does up in Buffalo. But this
Speaker 1: is it's a family that's used to success in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's been in big time games. He's been a part
Speaker 1: of the bright lights. And I think this is just
Speaker 1: a brilliant pick for the Cowboys at fifty one. Now
Speaker 1: a pick has come since the Cowboys were on the
Speaker 1: clock of the Rams take cam Acres. They're running back
Speaker 1: out of Florida State. As I guess the now replacement
Speaker 1: for Todd Gurley, who has departed and gone to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: As we continue here in this second round, Cowboys pick
Speaker 1: next at eighty two. But with the cornerback spot now
Speaker 1: solidified at least early in this part of the draft,
Speaker 1: now your attention shifts to safety, shifts to edge rusher.
Speaker 1: What's now up on the priority list here? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you're all over. And by the way, Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: goes to the Philadelphia Eagles, which to me makes all
Speaker 1: the sense in the world because the Philadelphia Eagles probably
Speaker 1: need to plan to play four to six games without
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback every year, and I think that that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good backup to have, where you've got a
Speaker 1: guy who's got the ability to help you with his
Speaker 1: feet to try to get by until Wentz is healthy again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: corner being addressed and wide receiver being addressed, which I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people didn't think was a need,
Speaker 1: but I did because you were missing a starter there,
Speaker 1: and yeah, and uh safety, defensive line, and you know,
Speaker 1: they seemed like they were showing some interest in the
Speaker 1: linebackers at the top of this draft. Rybe even there
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, probably looking all over the defense, just
Speaker 1: not at and I think you still could look at corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they double dipped at corner
Speaker 1: at all. I mean I know that. You know, Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones came on our station was talking about, well, a
Speaker 1: linebacker maybe not early, it's not a concern right now.
Speaker 1: I know for a fact they like Logan Wilson from
Speaker 1: from Wyoming. I do too. And you know, and you're
Speaker 1: talking about a guy that that could be. You know,
Speaker 1: he's kind of a throwbacks linebacker. He's always you know,
Speaker 1: he drops at cabbage and there's the ball, he's up. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's tackling a guy. He never misses tackles, you know.
Speaker 1: Willie Gay was another guy we talked about. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we've mentioned maybe that's the spot. There's I just feel
Speaker 1: like now there's defensive ends, there's linebackers, and there's some
Speaker 1: safeties that they could even go. They can stay on
Speaker 1: that defensive side of the ball and be really really
Speaker 1: happy with that direction. I think defense is still where
Speaker 1: you have to go here, and whether it's safety or
Speaker 1: edge rusher, I still think there's gonna be some names
Speaker 1: available at eighty two as well. Then twenty twenty NFL
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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. At fifty one, the Dallas Cowboys went
Speaker 1: with Trevon Diggs, the Alabama cornerback who we thought there
Speaker 1: was a chance in some circumstances he could have been
Speaker 1: picked at seventeen by the Cowboys. So I bet when
Speaker 1: we get a press conference at the conclusion of today's round,
Speaker 1: we will hear something similar to what we heard yesterday
Speaker 1: in terms of the dude was right there at the
Speaker 1: top of our board and we kind of had to
Speaker 1: pick him, and it falls into position a need for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. At fifty two, the Rams took Cam Akers,
Speaker 1: the Florida State running back, and at fifty three, the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles just took Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma quarterback, which to
Speaker 1: me makes a lot of sense. I had him more
Speaker 1: as a third round guy but I think of the
Speaker 1: guys you would hope to develop, he gives you a
Speaker 1: chance to win games when he has to play, because
Speaker 1: you start using his legs and you make it hard
Speaker 1: for teams to defend. So Trevon Diggs to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: cam Akers to the Rams, and Jalen Hurts to the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Dane, how you like that pairing with Hurts
Speaker 1: in Philly? It is interesting? Um, And you kind of
Speaker 1: set it up with you know, they have a quarterback
Speaker 1: who's really talented, but for him to start all sixteen games,
Speaker 1: you know that's the question mark. And so you bring
Speaker 1: in Hurts for your number two. You got to change
Speaker 1: your offensive around a little bit because this is a
Speaker 1: player who anticipation wise, uh in terms of reading coverages,
Speaker 1: not exactly where you want. And so I think this
Speaker 1: is much earlier than I would have taken Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: But he's the type of leader, the type of guy
Speaker 1: you want your locker room, want your quarterback room. H
Speaker 1: And so I don't if I'm a Cowboys fan, am
Speaker 1: I do? I see this pick and say, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: is that doesn't worry made that much? I mean that
Speaker 1: that's kind I would feel if I was a Dallas fan,
Speaker 1: I was kind of hopeful that he would have got
Speaker 1: to Dallas in the third round. Yeah, I was interested
Speaker 1: a little. Yeah, I was interested and if he would
Speaker 1: have done that if he'd been there, because you know,
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Jones is you know, those Monday morning meetings.
Speaker 1: He comes in and he starts talking about, did you
Speaker 1: guys see the Ravens play last night? You know, and
Speaker 1: and I know they're they're they're different. He's not the
Speaker 1: but but that kind of attack, you know, where you
Speaker 1: put pressure on defenses with the ability to run and
Speaker 1: the ball handling and stuff like that. You know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he probably wishes his starting quarterback would do a little
Speaker 1: bit more of that, but he was always fascinated with
Speaker 1: what was going on with that kind of scheme. We
Speaker 1: got the Buffalo Bills on the clock at fifty four.
Speaker 1: But we also have for you the secret audio of
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs being drafted by the Dallas Cowboys, which is
Speaker 1: always great. We love that that we get that for you.
Speaker 1: So here it is Trevon Diggs being picked for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Strayvon. This is Will McClay with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have somebody that wants to speak to you, dear, how
Speaker 1: you doing cook? Hey, this is Jerry. How you gonna listen? Listen?
Speaker 1: We're I'm proud to tell you because I'm proud of
Speaker 1: it too. You've got a star on your helmet. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Well, I appreciate that alone. Well, I sure,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoy our time, our interview and talking to you
Speaker 1: and um, everybody or potential coaches, and we're all excited
Speaker 1: about that you're getting in here. And what we're were
Speaker 1: most excited about is the improvement that you can make. Everybody.
Speaker 1: The word is he can get better. He can get better. Now, now,
Speaker 1: remember what I told you. If anybody ever tells you
Speaker 1: that gives you something for nothing, they're lying to you.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna have to go to work, but
Speaker 1: if you go to work, you'll get something. Okay, you
Speaker 1: can do. Yes, I got your coach, hey, man, so
Speaker 1: pride your capital worker. Here's something. Um, here's your coach
Speaker 1: and he wants to skate with. I want to transfer
Speaker 1: your Dray Vaughan for birthday? How you do? How are
Speaker 1: you doing right now? He congratulations on being the Dallas
Speaker 1: com do. Excited to have you soone. I apprecaid everything.
Speaker 1: Thank you, they do me a favorite. You're a bummer
Speaker 1: with your family. God bless and just keep doing what
Speaker 1: your dog you just self Freddie and really look forward
Speaker 1: to working with Tea and went some championships. All right,
Speaker 1: Well man, do you take care of Thank you so much?
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna go with Will McClay and
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and try to not screw this up every day.
Speaker 1: And it sounds like it's Trayvon Diggs and not Treyvon
Speaker 1: like I've been saying. Oh I've been saying that too.
Speaker 1: Damn Trayvon. Is that Diggs? Okay? Confirmed? Trayvon Diggs cornerback
Speaker 1: for your Dallas Cowboys and aj Epinessa's slide ends at
Speaker 1: Buffalo at number fifty four and Baltimore at fifty five.
Speaker 1: Is on the clock. I love when Jerry talks because
Speaker 1: you never know where he's gonna meander two just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're happy to have you. And remember I told you
Speaker 1: story nothing for free ever? Will all right, dude, Jerry voice, well,
Speaker 1: trey Von you remember no he went, Treyvon. You remember
Speaker 1: I told you Netting's free. Somebody gives you a carton
Speaker 1: of milk. You better believe they're gonna come back round
Speaker 1: two weeks from man and one something from you, probably
Speaker 1: pair of kick something like that. I'm a little scared
Speaker 1: right now. You just never heard your Jerry. It's very good,
Speaker 1: it is great. Well, that is Arry. That's what's scary
Speaker 1: about it, Dave. You've been meaning to talk to you
Speaker 1: man facts to save you for about three weeks. Talk
Speaker 1: to you about a furlough. Please. That's not funny. That's
Speaker 1: not funny. That's really not And I apologize for that.
Speaker 1: That was a terrible joke and I didn't mean it.
Speaker 1: And I love everybody. Um okay. So aj Epanessa is
Speaker 1: off the board, and now we are looking at the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, who earlier in this draft took Patrick Queen
Speaker 1: already linebacker out of LSU, and they are back up
Speaker 1: on the clock at fifty five. Who has got a
Speaker 1: handle on what they may be looking at here? Running back? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Go Dan, well along the lines of what you were
Speaker 1: just saying, what am I missing on? JK. Dobbins? Why
Speaker 1: is he still around? I think that needs to be
Speaker 1: the pick, honestly, Dane, I'm right there. JK Dobbins to me,
Speaker 1: was the best back in this draft, and I am
Speaker 1: shocked that he not shocked that the three Taylor Edwards,
Speaker 1: A Laire and Swift went ahead of him. I'm shocked
Speaker 1: cam Akers went ahead of them. Yeah, well, cam Akers
Speaker 1: to fifty two to the Rams, and you're still sitting
Speaker 1: here looking for Dobbins to come off the board. I
Speaker 1: think this is one of those Ravens picks that the
Speaker 1: fact that he's still sitting here, you're looking up at
Speaker 1: the board and saying, oh my gosh, he fell in
Speaker 1: our lap. Let's go ahead and pare Dobbins with mark
Speaker 1: Ingram in that backfield with Lamar Jackson and add some
Speaker 1: firepower to that offense that really doesn't need any Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you're Baltimore. I know they don't target
Speaker 1: their receivers a ton or as much as anyone else
Speaker 1: in the league, but with some of those guys available,
Speaker 1: maybe you look that way. But Mint is still there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: To Dane's point, you know what Baltimore has done consistently
Speaker 1: over the six years that I've been doing the draft.
Speaker 1: They take the guys I want, so they which means
Speaker 1: if I want them, obviously they must be good. So
Speaker 1: that means the Ravens are good at this and if JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins is that needed to come off the board quickly,
Speaker 1: they'll probably be the team to do it because they
Speaker 1: love to snatch up the good players that just fall
Speaker 1: in their lap. I think the Ravens just take the
Speaker 1: best guy available way more often than not. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: had that thought earlier. Today. It's like, man, Cowboys really
Speaker 1: had a Ravens moment with Ceedee Lamb and maybe not
Speaker 1: as big of a steal, but it feels like they
Speaker 1: did it again with Treyvon Diggs. Is like, Hey, if
Speaker 1: you none of y'all want these really good players that
Speaker 1: keep dropping midway through the round, we'll gladly take them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So JK. Dobbins best back available, my guy, Zach Moss
Speaker 1: probably behind him, and we shall see how many running
Speaker 1: backs are going off the board and get I think
Speaker 1: eighty two is too far away to be cheering for
Speaker 1: positions or is it ever too far away or we
Speaker 1: just pulling for all for all offense? It's too far away,
Speaker 1: we got I mean, there's basically thirty picks until the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are on the clock. I can't start worrying about
Speaker 1: that until like pick until probably the start of the
Speaker 1: third You don't have your shortlist ready. Everybody but Zach Bond.
Speaker 1: Let's just let's draft like that. Oh, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: I've got it. Honestly, it's fun I mean funny how
Speaker 1: this works. I went Terrell Burgess if they and then
Speaker 1: they would have hit basically my exact draft that I
Speaker 1: would want, and that would match Dane's mock. You gave
Speaker 1: them dicks, didn't you. Let's make it happen. Let's let's
Speaker 1: speak it into existence. I think be great. I think yeah,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin, I don't think he's have to wait much
Speaker 1: longer here. He'll be a safety off the board. Ashton
Speaker 1: Davis from Cal I think is another safety who belongs
Speaker 1: somewhere in the top seventy picks. But then Terrell Burgess,
Speaker 1: he I think he's the next safety to go and
Speaker 1: should be in the mix for the Cowboys next round.
Speaker 1: I'm just a big fan of his ability to play
Speaker 1: a lot of different spots. You know, you have to
Speaker 1: find him. He's got a similar number to one of
Speaker 1: his teammates. Yes, you don't know if you spend a
Speaker 1: whole half trying to find him. You're like going, oh,
Speaker 1: there he is, and then like, oh he made another player. Okay,
Speaker 1: then you gotta run it back. You know, Oh I
Speaker 1: missed him because I thought it was the other guy.
Speaker 1: Now he's down at the line, now he's yeah. So no.
Speaker 1: This is a guy though that when you talk about him,
Speaker 1: he's all over the field. He makes plays. You know,
Speaker 1: you could put him in coverage and things like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the I like the player there
Speaker 1: at If you could get him to your pick in
Speaker 1: the third round, I think that would be a huge get.
Speaker 1: That would be a little I'm a little scared that
Speaker 1: the Dolphins of fifty six, who pick right after the Ravens.
Speaker 1: By the way, Baltimore's pick is in. We haven't had
Speaker 1: an announced yet, but I think the Dolphins could maybe
Speaker 1: go safety there. You talk about some of the picks
Speaker 1: that they've made. They picked up a corner and no
Speaker 1: egg bnogady in the middle of the draft, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like the Dolphins could potentially snatch
Speaker 1: one of those guys. I don't know if it'll be
Speaker 1: specifically Terrell Burgess or Jeremy Chin, but I think they
Speaker 1: may at least look in that direction. Well, and Kyle,
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to have somebody on the
Speaker 1: show constantly try to bring the room down. And I
Speaker 1: always that I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah, we're out here
Speaker 1: trying to get our safety and you're trying to send
Speaker 1: them all off the board. And I think if you
Speaker 1: must think, you would think the new guy is like
Speaker 1: bright eyed and bushy tails. Yeah, he's just trying bush
Speaker 1: He's trying to kill everybody's mood hater right out of
Speaker 1: the gate. Who would have thought, I'm just a realist guy.
Speaker 1: That's all it is. You know, Hey, as the resident realist.
Speaker 1: I'm glad somebody's taken over for me. See, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's the reason it's Dave. Dave and I have spent
Speaker 1: too much time together over the past four months. Dave
Speaker 1: likes to have somebody try to push him around, So
Speaker 1: that's what you need to do. I think he misses
Speaker 1: Brian doing that. So here is the Baltimore Baltimore Ravens pick.
Speaker 1: Here's the commissioner with the fifty fifth pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft for Baltimore Ravens select JK. Dobbins,
Speaker 1: running back Ohio State all right, Dane, you feel like
Speaker 1: you've been waiting way too long to do this, but
Speaker 1: rip off his scouting report real quick. What are the
Speaker 1: Ravens do. In the first round? They stay where they
Speaker 1: were and they got Patrick Queen. In the second round,
Speaker 1: they stay where they were, They got JK. Dobbins. Two
Speaker 1: terriffic players, Dobbins. Some guys were just born to play
Speaker 1: running back, and Dobbins is that guy. His ability to
Speaker 1: read and hit the whole at the perfect time is
Speaker 1: just a really unique skill. And then once he gets
Speaker 1: to the second level, he can make defenders miss. He's
Speaker 1: a reliable pass catcher of the backfield, just a really
Speaker 1: solid back. Who I mean, you look at the Ravens
Speaker 1: and that backfield with mark Ingram Lamar Jackson. You had JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins to that mix. That's the makings of a pretty
Speaker 1: fun offense. JK. Dobbins to the Ravens. The Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: are on the clock. Kyle is trying to get them
Speaker 1: to take a player that the Cowboys want. It's a
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Speaker 1: along here. In the back half of the second round,
Speaker 1: Cowboys that made their selection, it was Trayvon Diggs now
Speaker 1: j JK. Dobbins off of the board, Dolphins, Rams, Vikings, Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and then the Ravens back up again within the next
Speaker 1: five picks. So I mentioned safety here, you could also
Speaker 1: maybe throw in a corner. I know they did select
Speaker 1: Noah Igbonogamy, but any needs out there, Dane that you
Speaker 1: kind of see the Dolphins, maybe honey on here. This
Speaker 1: is the Dolphins have so many needs. I mean, they
Speaker 1: can go in a lot of different directions, but can
Speaker 1: we see a safety here? Maybe this is where maybe
Speaker 1: we could see Jeremy Chin and Nashton Davis. You know,
Speaker 1: I think when you look at some of their needs.
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton, they went corn on the first so probably
Speaker 1: not there. Could they go edge rusher, Curtis Weaver. Possibly?
Speaker 1: They have a lot of different directions they need to add.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins have fourteen picks in his draft, so they
Speaker 1: are not going to be shy making picks over the
Speaker 1: course of the night in tomorrow. What about interior defensive line,
Speaker 1: because before the Cowboys picked, brought us and I were
Speaker 1: kind of talking back and forth about some of those
Speaker 1: d tackles that are still available. And you still have
Speaker 1: Matta Bouque out there or Mattabek excuse me, Jordan Elliot's
Speaker 1: still out there. Gallimore's their vote to Rae Kwon Davis
Speaker 1: even if you wanted to throw that name into the mix,
Speaker 1: A Brian, Are those some kind of guys that maybe
Speaker 1: Miami would be interested in? Yeah? The thing with Matta
Speaker 1: Bouque Mattabike is that we you know, it's like we
Speaker 1: watch the tape and see the tape and swatch him play, right,
Speaker 1: but what's behind the scenes, you know, is he interviewing
Speaker 1: bad is he a bad character guy? I mean, there's
Speaker 1: things that we don't know about some of these players,
Speaker 1: and you put him where you think he's going to be,
Speaker 1: you know, on the board, and give him his due,
Speaker 1: But maybe there's something that is keeping him from being
Speaker 1: selected at this time. So it looks like the commissioner
Speaker 1: the pick is in. The commissioner is reading it right now,
Speaker 1: so I will give it to you as we're going
Speaker 1: along here, let's see it's a oh, the Dolphins take
Speaker 1: ray Kuon Davis, defensive tackle from Alabama? Is who they take?
Speaker 1: All right, Dane Scouting report time on mister ray Kwon
Speaker 1: Davis here looks a lot better than he plays. I
Speaker 1: mean he's a monster because he's one of those tools
Speaker 1: versus production kind of guys. Yeah, and I'm not even
Speaker 1: sure sure the tools are all that great. He just
Speaker 1: looks great, but he's not the most agile player. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna give you a ton of pass rush.
Speaker 1: His strength is going to be using that length, using
Speaker 1: that size to take on multiple blocks clog up your
Speaker 1: run lanes, and you need those guys. So not to
Speaker 1: say this is a bad pick by any means, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he was not a first round pick here
Speaker 1: outside the top fifty. This is where he should have gone.
Speaker 1: And I think the Dolphins are adding a player who
Speaker 1: can be a solid run stuffer and maybe give you
Speaker 1: a little bit of pass rush value. We'll see if
Speaker 1: he can develop that part of his game. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought Kyle he played a lot better earlier than late.
Speaker 1: You watch some late late games at Alabama, and he
Speaker 1: was not very good, you know. And I sometimes he
Speaker 1: won't stay square when he plays, He'll get turned, he'll
Speaker 1: jump around blocks, you know, he'll lose his balance, he
Speaker 1: struggles with quickness against him, you know. And I just
Speaker 1: I'm with Dane on this. So I was expecting a
Speaker 1: better player, and it it just was that the more
Speaker 1: film I watched, the more I just became disenchanted with
Speaker 1: the player though well. And I think the one part
Speaker 1: of his game that he was consistent in, at least
Speaker 1: in watching film was probably run stopping, correct. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like that was really his go to, his
Speaker 1: bread and butter of of what made him enticing in
Speaker 1: the middle of the second round. He had seven sacks
Speaker 1: in the past for USh his sophomore season, but after
Speaker 1: that it was really kind of sparse in that regard.
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Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty NFL Draft with Jeff Kavanaugh. Prian
Speaker 1: brought us, Dane Hellman, Dan Prougler, and Kyle Yeomanns. Welcome
Speaker 1: back the Dallas Cowboys Cede Lamb in round one, tray
Speaker 1: Von Diggs, cornerback out of Alabama in round two. According
Speaker 1: to all five of us, I believe you would say
Speaker 1: they are doing quite well in this NFL draft, the
Speaker 1: first one under new head coach Mike McCarthy. And we're
Speaker 1: cruising along in this draft. Currently we are looking at
Speaker 1: number fifty seven. The La Rams will be making that
Speaker 1: pick as we creep our way towards eighty two and
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys next selection, where we still got some
Speaker 1: players that we're cheering for to make it to eighty two.
Speaker 1: And this maybe this is gonna be the first year
Speaker 1: where they just draft all of the guys that we
Speaker 1: want them to draft, and everybody's in agreement and it
Speaker 1: turns out none of them can play, and we don't
Speaker 1: know what we're doing. Yeah, I'm all about Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: kicking them scouts and coaches out of that. You know
Speaker 1: at that room. Let him just draft these players. Man,
Speaker 1: he's doing our I don't think that's what's happening. It's
Speaker 1: not happening. Don't think that's what's happening. I think what's happening.
Speaker 1: I think this is the scouts draft. I think that's
Speaker 1: why we agree with the pick so much. I think
Speaker 1: they let the scouts do their work, and the coaching
Speaker 1: staff said, yeah, pick the best players and give them that.
Speaker 1: It's really if he came in and just took over
Speaker 1: and said, no, we're gonna draft these players, will Jerry.
Speaker 1: It's all about Jerry. Jerry, He's got this thing under control.
Speaker 1: It's really ironic because I wanted to play a game
Speaker 1: with with y'all this year where we charted who was
Speaker 1: available at the pick and who we wanted and who
Speaker 1: they took, and that would you know, it would give
Speaker 1: us receipts of who was right and who was wrong
Speaker 1: two or three years from now. But I think we're
Speaker 1: all in agreement through the first two rounds were close.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I would have to keep my
Speaker 1: eye on the careers of Zach Bond and Christian Fulton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I don't think anybody, you know,
Speaker 1: And and they chose one of my top three that yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think any but he's gonna
Speaker 1: kill him for for digs over those two, you know,
Speaker 1: the way that happened with t J. Watt and Taco
Speaker 1: or some of the other choices that they've made, not
Speaker 1: at all. So those were those were both picks that
Speaker 1: you look the other direction and automatically said, I would
Speaker 1: rather have that guy. I want that guy, not the
Speaker 1: one that we have. That's just not the case this year, right,
Speaker 1: And hey, trust me, Kyle, there have been a few
Speaker 1: years where we've all been sitting around looking at each other, like,
Speaker 1: who wants to say something nice about this guy? First
Speaker 1: happened a couple of times. Six years. Yeah, it happened
Speaker 1: a few times. Yeah, a few times. All right, anybody
Speaker 1: got to handle on what you think the rams might
Speaker 1: be interested in here. They went running back with their
Speaker 1: last pick, right, they went cam Acres and now they're
Speaker 1: back up here on the clock about treated. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: just traded Brandon Cooks. Um go back wide receiver? Replace
Speaker 1: that need Denzel Mims? Come on down? Or are we?
Speaker 1: Are we a little bit too high on Denzel Mims
Speaker 1: based on his postseason stuff? But I loved his Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: loved his combine, and liked his tape, so I feel
Speaker 1: like second rounds a good spot for him. The pick
Speaker 1: for the Rams is in and here is the commissioner.
Speaker 1: With the fifty seventh pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams select Van Jefferson wide receiver Florida.
Speaker 1: There you go, No Van Jefferson wide receiver at Florida.
Speaker 1: Somebody else can give their scouting report if you like.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that I feel like
Speaker 1: he had an unfair advantage. His dad, Sean is the
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach for the Jets, so probably had good
Speaker 1: teaching and that would explain being a really good route runner.
Speaker 1: But Van Jefferson is going to be going to the Rams. Daane,
Speaker 1: you want to go scouting report? The Jets didn't draft him,
Speaker 1: so how good is he? Okay? Good question, good question.
Speaker 1: This is a player who when he was at Old Miss.
Speaker 1: He transferred to Florida. When he was at Old Miss
Speaker 1: with AJ Brown and DK Metcalf and all the talent
Speaker 1: they had there, there were scouts that were saying, who's
Speaker 1: this kid? Because he was a perfect route runner even
Speaker 1: as a freshman when he came went to Oxford, transfers
Speaker 1: to Florida. And that's the advantage of having a wide
Speaker 1: receiver coach for a dad. You learn the tricks of
Speaker 1: setting up defensive backs and understanding pace, understanding footwork, and
Speaker 1: that's what he does at a really high level. Not
Speaker 1: the biggest, not the fastest, but for a guy that
Speaker 1: is technically sound, he is going to see the field
Speaker 1: very early as a rookie and he's going to be
Speaker 1: productive for this Rams offense. That sounds really like somebody
Speaker 1: that would work with Sean McBay. It's just kind of
Speaker 1: the way I picture that offense. Everything on time. Hey, Jared,
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you which route to throw, Just
Speaker 1: throw it on time. Cooper Cuppish, Yeah, another one of
Speaker 1: those one of our find me a window. It's never
Speaker 1: my goal to make everything about LSU. But you're talking
Speaker 1: about a guy who picked fifty seventh. I mean, go
Speaker 1: with me here, go with me here. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be a good point because en route to a national
Speaker 1: champion and ship, LSU played Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, T Higgins,
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb on top of a bevy of other guys.
Speaker 1: And if you talk to Grant Delpit, Christian Fulton, and
Speaker 1: anybody else on that defense, they consistently said Van Jefferson
Speaker 1: was the toughest receiver they had to go against in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It's because Christian Fulton put up a great
Speaker 1: line against those Alabama guys and against them forgetting which
Speaker 1: other and against the Clemson guys. So, uh, Christian Fulton,
Speaker 1: get your name called soon. I believe in you, buddy,
Speaker 1: I'm so. I mean, I I came to terms with
Speaker 1: the thought that he wouldn't be a first round pick.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, But to see him still here approaching
Speaker 1: pick sixty eight two, it's fairly surprising. If he's there
Speaker 1: at I would run to make that pick at eighty two.
Speaker 1: I just that seems unlikely. Way you would run. Well,
Speaker 1: there's no podium commissioners. Here I keep forgetting yet, Dave. Sorry.
Speaker 1: NFL Draft the Minnesota Vikings select saw some whispers that
Speaker 1: maybe Ezra Cleveland was going to sneak out of the
Speaker 1: first round. But here he is, the Boise State offensive
Speaker 1: tackle going at fifty eight to the Vikings, and I
Speaker 1: get killed. I pick I picked him to the Vikings
Speaker 1: in my mock draft, and Jeff mauled me in his
Speaker 1: mock draft. And I picked this guy in the first round,
Speaker 1: and now the last night, and then now the Vikings
Speaker 1: take him. I felt like that they really really liked him.
Speaker 1: I mean I watched him play against Florida State Tallahassee
Speaker 1: hot day kid from an athlete. Yeah, and he's he's
Speaker 1: he's hanging in there with those guys. I mean it's
Speaker 1: like boys is running no huddle and he just keeps
Speaker 1: coming and coming and coming after the Florida State guys.
Speaker 1: I like his technique. I like the way he got
Speaker 1: his sets. I like the way he stays in front
Speaker 1: of this guy. I don't know about the power overall,
Speaker 1: but I saw a guy that's a really really good athlete.
Speaker 1: So Vikings got him a tackle left tackle. I think
Speaker 1: that's a cauld play let because of his athletic ability.
Speaker 1: It kind of seems the way that it's going an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle is if you've got the requisite athleticism that
Speaker 1: pass protect protection is so important in today's NFL that
Speaker 1: you got to have the feat to be able to
Speaker 1: match some of these pass rushers. Is that the way
Speaker 1: it's kind of going, Dane, where that's kind of where
Speaker 1: people start is tell me what kind of athlete he is? Right?
Speaker 1: And I think that you're you're right about that, and
Speaker 1: the combine he had really helped him. The Vikings, I know,
Speaker 1: were considering him in the first round. Yeah, with two
Speaker 1: first round picks. Well, and if the kind of how
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Cowboys, if the first sixteen picks
Speaker 1: played out a certain way, Diggs might have been the
Speaker 1: guy at seventeen if the first twenty one picks or so,
Speaker 1: because they did the Vikings did not expect Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: to be there at twenty two. He fell there and
Speaker 1: they were like, oh shoot, we got to take this guy.
Speaker 1: And Ezra Cleveland was a guy they were ready to
Speaker 1: take if the if the board played out a certain way,
Speaker 1: so to get him in the second round. This is
Speaker 1: kind of like a Cowboys moment for the Vikings to
Speaker 1: get him at this point in the draft. So now
Speaker 1: we get the New York Jets on the clock. We
Speaker 1: are at number fifty eight in the draft. It'll be
Speaker 1: the Jets followed by the Ravens, followed by the Titans.
Speaker 1: And Mike Zimmer is hanging out in front of his fireplace.
Speaker 1: It's a good looking fireplace. I wonder, I wonder if
Speaker 1: he's ad his ranch, he might have got his things.
Speaker 1: Wondering about that. I got a place in Kentucky. Huh, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's, he's it's his big ranch that he's got.
Speaker 1: Man ranch would be a good place to be for
Speaker 1: a draft. The only question is you gotta be sure
Speaker 1: about your WiFi, your internet situation, because sometimes a ranch,
Speaker 1: you know you're not in the sub dude makes like
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, Jeff, you don't think he can.
Speaker 1: Which would be rousier for Wi Fi? A yacht or
Speaker 1: a ranch? It doesn't which, that's the question. You think
Speaker 1: The yacht was hardwired, like he was close enough to
Speaker 1: somewhere that they were running extension cords and the longest
Speaker 1: Cat six cable you've ever seen out of a nearby
Speaker 1: restaurant and down the dock. All can't kick something off,
Speaker 1: just lug into a Starbucks outlet. This is the New
Speaker 1: York Jets second pick of this draft. The first one
Speaker 1: was McKay Beckton in the first round, Louisville offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Like that. By the way, Brian or Dane, do you
Speaker 1: have some needs for the New York Jets to try
Speaker 1: to try to guide us in the right direction? Let
Speaker 1: me see if I could figure this out. They traded
Speaker 1: down before, right, so this is only their second pick. Ye, second,
Speaker 1: so they have obvious needs at you look at the
Speaker 1: cornerback depth chart and you're just kind of shaking your head,
Speaker 1: and who's this guy? So cornerback definitely receiver yea, Robbie
Speaker 1: Anderson going to Carolina. Uh, you know they gave sam
Speaker 1: Donold help at eleven with the left tackle time to
Speaker 1: get him some help to you know, who's gonna be
Speaker 1: catching these passes? So I think corner or edge rusher
Speaker 1: or receiver. I'd be pretty surprised. If it's any other position,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fault right here. Well, okay, so names
Speaker 1: I would consider if you're talking to those, Yeah, Denzel Mims,
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton and then I'm way higher than the rest
Speaker 1: of the world. One makes way too much sense. Oh,
Speaker 1: I understand, it's too much sense. No, I understand. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you know Fulton Dane also laid it out though.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at their needs to talk about edge,
Speaker 1: wide receiver, cornerback, linebacker. I mean they dressed their offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think their best corners Pierre to see her. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think if you ask Jets fans and name the
Speaker 1: top three corners on their team, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they could do it. Come to Cowboys couldn't score on that?
Speaker 1: Yeah about a depth? You know why? You know why
Speaker 1: they couldn't score on that because Cooper played. Cooper played
Speaker 1: two snaps and they didn't have ceedee lamb and yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: they didn't have very fair, very fair. We fixed that
Speaker 1: problem last night, Jeffrey, Maybe Treyvon Diggs can also be
Speaker 1: your fourth or fifth wide receiver. Maybe, well, maybe Treyvon
Speaker 1: Diggs can stop a ninety eight yard touchdown too. That
Speaker 1: would be good, That would be very good. Well, that
Speaker 1: guy's not on the Jets anymore. You don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about it. What a just what a kick in
Speaker 1: the junk that game was let's not go back. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you guys are doing this. Why are
Speaker 1: you you started it about Cede Lamb and Trevon Diggs. Guys,
Speaker 1: come on, yeah, yeah, I like where Dane's heads at.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the rest of you guys. So
Speaker 1: New York Jets on the clock. They've taken Beckton in
Speaker 1: the first round. Denzel Mims would be a lot of
Speaker 1: fun there, my guys, Sammy d poor guy Dane. You
Speaker 1: were really high on Sam Darnold in the draft, and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here watching him in the NFL, like, are
Speaker 1: they ever going to give him a chance to succeed?
Speaker 1: There's nobody Blocker and Rogers learning the same things. Nobody open. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't draft anybody. Let's trade up for another quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I don't think Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the
Speaker 1: type to handle that well when somebody's like, well Aaron,
Speaker 1: we did it with you too. I don't think that
Speaker 1: that's gonna work for him. I think that he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot to say. How do you think Rogers
Speaker 1: feels about the fact that McCarthy got such a great
Speaker 1: receiver in the first round? In his first Cowboy draft
Speaker 1: after never getting a skill player in the first round
Speaker 1: during his Packer tenure. I think Aaron is ready to
Speaker 1: demand a trade and then have a QB competition with Dak.
Speaker 1: I've seen Aaron's contract figures. I don't think that's likely.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what you've seen. What daxus going, Yeah, exactly, well,
Speaker 1: fair true story. That one doesn't exist yet as far
Speaker 1: as I'm aware. Yeah yet. So the show in the
Speaker 1: graphic of the top receivers remaining, which would make sense,
Speaker 1: and now the camera is actually in Denzel Mims's living room.
Speaker 1: Very nice couch appears to be either leather or pleather,
Speaker 1: able to seat at least eight to ten people on
Speaker 1: that couch, and the Jets Adam gase looks like they've
Speaker 1: made a pick. He's hugging his son, Joe Douglas as
Speaker 1: it appears three screens. Adam Gasee's kid is really fascinated
Speaker 1: with the camera, making sure to wave like you see
Speaker 1: kids do at a basketball game, making sure, but he's
Speaker 1: not looking at the camera. He's looking at the screen
Speaker 1: that shows the display of the draft and waving it
Speaker 1: in which is alway by play. I need it in
Speaker 1: my life. This is beautiful. Well, it's always a tough
Speaker 1: deal because you don't know where the camera is. You
Speaker 1: just know that you're on TV, so you're actually looking
Speaker 1: at TV instead of at the camera, and you're really
Speaker 1: waving at yourself, watching yourself. See and as here come
Speaker 1: the other kids. Now we got three kids. You see
Speaker 1: it on scoreboards all the time and on the big
Speaker 1: monitor at and T Stadium. You see it all the day. Beth, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I have better aware to get the kids. If
Speaker 1: I'm in that situation, I immediately try to find the camera,
Speaker 1: just if you're keeping track at home. It took till
Speaker 1: pick fifty nine for us to go off the rails.
Speaker 1: Here's Roger with the the New York Jets pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The Jets, like Denzel Mims,
Speaker 1: going people finding a way to pick the best guy
Speaker 1: on the board. Denzel Mims, who I think is one
Speaker 1: of the guys who helped himself the absolute most out
Speaker 1: of everybody after actual football had ended with the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl and with the combine, finding a home here on
Speaker 1: a team where there should be plenty of targets available.
Speaker 1: Scouting report, Denzel Mims Dane player at Baylor who didn't
Speaker 1: run a diverse route tree. But then he goes to
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, like you mentioned Jeff, and you see
Speaker 1: him more more versatile player than I thought a lot
Speaker 1: of us thought he would be. Paul Long almost thirty
Speaker 1: four in jarms. Speed was outstanding, had the best three
Speaker 1: cone out of anybody at the combine. So really impressive
Speaker 1: athlete for that size. You wish he was more and
Speaker 1: more consistent with the route running. Had a few drops,
Speaker 1: but at this point in the draft, this is a
Speaker 1: this is a tremendous steal for them. And if you're
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, you got your left tackle in the first
Speaker 1: you get your receiver, and the second you have to
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about what your GM Joe Douglas is
Speaker 1: doing and trying to help you. And this was the
Speaker 1: top target for Charlie Brewer and that Matt Rural offense
Speaker 1: during It's really his entire tenure down at Baylor. And
Speaker 1: you talk about a guy who can go up and
Speaker 1: get a football, he's right there with it. He high
Speaker 1: points the ball so well. He was tied for second
Speaker 1: in the country in terms of contested receptions. He was
Speaker 1: honestly one of my favorite players just in college football
Speaker 1: to watch throughout the course of this past season. Then
Speaker 1: another Texas high school football product got to throw it
Speaker 1: out out there. He's from Dangerfield, Texas, which is of
Speaker 1: course very football history rich in that regard. Played four
Speaker 1: sports there, including track, which you saw with the forty
Speaker 1: that ended up running a four three eight, which was
Speaker 1: one of the top five wide receiver forties that you
Speaker 1: saw in the NFL combine. So I like him a lot.
Speaker 1: And Jeff, I remember you talking about the route tree
Speaker 1: early on in the offseason. That kind of scared you.
Speaker 1: I think he kind of dispelled that kind of bugaboo
Speaker 1: to his game at the at the Senior Bowl, just
Speaker 1: the way that he was able to show some reality
Speaker 1: and some versatility. Nobody could cover him at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: And once again we have a GM's kid who is
Speaker 1: pretending to be super excited about a pick that looks
Speaker 1: like an eight year old. And I just don't know
Speaker 1: if they understand what they're excited about, but that's the
Speaker 1: way it goes. All Right, We've got the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots who have traded up their pick is in. We'll
Speaker 1: get to that and the rest of this draft. You're
Speaker 1: listening to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh
Speaker 1: five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And
Speaker 1: as we continue here on the website side of things,
Speaker 1: the Patriots still looking to make their first select. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: correct now that they've traded up because they traded out
Speaker 1: of twenty three. No, they I take that back. They
Speaker 1: took Kyle Dugger earlier in the draft, so you did have, uh,
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger. We don't, we don't. I believe y'all are
Speaker 1: still up. I'm not sure what's going on here. I
Speaker 1: think we're having some technical difficulties. That's what happens when
Speaker 1: we're all virtual. But that's okay, Dave. You can still
Speaker 1: hear me, correct, I can hear you, Kyle. I think
Speaker 1: our fans let's go ahead and go Yeah, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and go to New England. You've got New England
Speaker 1: coming up next with the trade with Baltimore and the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Then the Titans, Packers, Chiefs, Seahawks are the scheduled guys
Speaker 1: to go on for the or scheduled picks to go
Speaker 1: on until the end of the round. But with the
Speaker 1: Patriots here, she picks sixty. What do you see, Dane
Speaker 1: at where they could go here? Front seven? Um, you
Speaker 1: know he took a defensive line, you know, could they
Speaker 1: go a Matta Bouquet? Could they go with the Curtis
Speaker 1: Weaver goes somewhere? They need to get younger on that
Speaker 1: defensive line. Um, need to get younger a linebacker seeing Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe could we see the run on linebackers start here?
Speaker 1: We haven't had many linebackers off the board. Zach Bond
Speaker 1: possibly Logan Wilson. Let's see what the Patriots do. I
Speaker 1: can tell you what they're gonna do. They just picked
Speaker 1: Josh Uche out of Michigan. Personal favorite of mine. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I love this dude. And he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys I feel like people are afraid of him
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a definitive role. Dane, tell me
Speaker 1: if I'm crazy, Like, doesn't this seem like Chase Winovitch
Speaker 1: all over again? Just in terms of I mean just
Speaker 1: a specialized guy who can get to the quarterback. I
Speaker 1: mean he's not gonna be for everybody, but man, he
Speaker 1: can do something. He can do something for you. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and Chase Winovich who was drafted by the Patriots last
Speaker 1: year on Day two. Uh yeah, you know he's He's
Speaker 1: a guy who I don't I think he's a little
Speaker 1: more versatility than a win it bitch, where Winovich is
Speaker 1: an upfield play player only where oocha, maybe you have
Speaker 1: a guy that can draw up a playing space six one, two,
Speaker 1: forty five. So he has the size of a linebacker,
Speaker 1: but the speed is what you're banking on here. Good
Speaker 1: luck slowing him down around the edge. And a player
Speaker 1: who only played about fifty percent of snaps last year
Speaker 1: as a senior at Michigan. So you know, even even
Speaker 1: the Wolverines weren't sure exactly how to use him and
Speaker 1: in which situations. So this is interesting pick by coach Belichick. Obviously.
Speaker 1: I think he knows a thing or two about defense
Speaker 1: and how to use a player like this, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of those value picks
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are just destined to make throughout the
Speaker 1: course of a draft. He's gonna have six sacks year,
Speaker 1: He's gonna have six sacks at the halfway point in
Speaker 1: next season, and like they're only gonna use him in
Speaker 1: certain situations and there it's gonna be like they're they're
Speaker 1: two four front that nobody else in the league runs,
Speaker 1: and he's just gonna be a nightmare. That's my prediction.
Speaker 1: And now I'm kind of looking down the list here, guys,
Speaker 1: and there's a couple names that stick out to me
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, that guy's still kind of there
Speaker 1: or that guy's still there type of player. How about
Speaker 1: Josh Jones out of Houston, the offensive tackle that I
Speaker 1: thought would go well early in the draft, and he's
Speaker 1: still on the board. You still got Christian Fulton up
Speaker 1: there as well. Josh Jones is surprising. Um. I thought
Speaker 1: there was a chance he'd go in the first round.
Speaker 1: Obviously that didn't happen, and surprise, he has fallen to
Speaker 1: this point a really very good player in pass protection.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not the greatest as a run blocker.
Speaker 1: And when you watch his film, who did he who
Speaker 1: did he really face? That really challenged him. I think
Speaker 1: that's what teams are struggling with. All right, here we
Speaker 1: go back on the fan side of things. The twenty
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft continues on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and
Speaker 1: one three the Fan. All right, welcome back. It is
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, where the Dallas Cowboys last
Speaker 1: night took Ceedee Lamb if you somehow missed that, So sir,
Speaker 1: they got Cite Lamb and then they got Brian brought
Speaker 1: us his eighteen ranked player in this draft in the
Speaker 1: second round in trey Von Diggs. Where now it picks
Speaker 1: sixty one with the Tennessee Titans. Here at the back
Speaker 1: end of the second round. Cowboy's next pick, of course
Speaker 1: is at eighty two, So with the Tennessee Titans. Anybody
Speaker 1: got a nice little list handy to try to point
Speaker 1: us in the right direction, Zach Bond, Should we just
Speaker 1: say that for every pick, like I mean, at this
Speaker 1: point where the value is what it is. They drafted
Speaker 1: tackle in the first round, so Josh Jones I think
Speaker 1: would be excellent value, but they're not going to go
Speaker 1: that direction. Could we start to see Cushion Berry get
Speaker 1: more offensive line? Helps surprised? Jeremy Chen is still a
Speaker 1: round so a few names, and that's what happens when
Speaker 1: you we have so many talented Day two picks, a
Speaker 1: lot of talents still available. It's going to happen. I
Speaker 1: mean the third round, we're still gonna have some intriguing names. Uh,
Speaker 1: Matta Bouque, you know they they shipped off. Uh who's
Speaker 1: the really good defensive tackle they shipped off to Denver? Yes,
Speaker 1: so Matta Bouque, George Elliott, one of these big defensive
Speaker 1: tackles maybe coming in help replace him up front. I
Speaker 1: still think corner could be an option here too, because
Speaker 1: you look at what their needs are at cornerback. I
Speaker 1: mean they don't have I mean they've got Andrew Jackson
Speaker 1: out there and then Malcolm Butler. But are you really
Speaker 1: trusting Malcolm Butler to be your your corner as a Titan?
Speaker 1: Probably they lose. They lose Logan Ryan and that that
Speaker 1: is a great point. They need that guy that can
Speaker 1: play inside outside, Uh, that can has the football character
Speaker 1: that you know coach Vrabel's looking for. So absolutely, and
Speaker 1: you look at the top corner still available, Christian Fulton's
Speaker 1: still there. Yeah, so that that is a possibility for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I was looking. I was thinking.
Speaker 1: And if you're their cornerback situation, and like, okay, if
Speaker 1: you're just go for the second round, taking the best
Speaker 1: available player, that Christian Fulton's the guy. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: gotta be right, Yeah, we can leave him alone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: him and Bond or the two guys that I would say, Man,
Speaker 1: if I got either one of those guys, i'd be
Speaker 1: lated about that. Yeah. I'm just gonna watch this draft
Speaker 1: and hope to not hear either of their names for
Speaker 1: the next twenty picks. Any chance, any chance either of
Speaker 1: those guys in eighty two? Oh, that'd be awesome. I
Speaker 1: guess you never have to trade up to get it, though.
Speaker 1: I don't think eighty two. I think eighty two too far.
Speaker 1: That's still like you just said, twenty picks away and
Speaker 1: you still think that they're gonna be there. We weren't,
Speaker 1: weren't gonna be there fifty one. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I'm begging. I'm asking if anybody tell me you're asking
Speaker 1: the question you're out here saying, do you think no,
Speaker 1: there's no way? Dang it? Yeah, Kyle, I'm bringing it
Speaker 1: down again, I know, but I'm being real here. They're
Speaker 1: trying to make sure we set up the board the rend. Jeff,
Speaker 1: I've done this to Kyle, Dave. No. I mean it's
Speaker 1: good that somebody is there to rain you and Brian
Speaker 1: in 'all are monster. Sorry, Commissioner, with the pick Titans
Speaker 1: to see Titans select Christian Fulton. He fens him back.
Speaker 1: Happy Now Kyle, I'm mad on Kavanaugh, Now Kyle, Kyle
Speaker 1: nailed it. Was what do you want? Um? I want
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton to go back on the board, wait twenty
Speaker 1: picks and then be a Dallas cowboy. A bond still
Speaker 1: there though. Yeah, Christian Fulton. I really like Christian Fulton.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys that, to me,
Speaker 1: he got to this spot because he's not six two
Speaker 1: and he didn't run a four to three, But when
Speaker 1: you just watch him play corner, I think instinctually his
Speaker 1: ability to play man coverage. I really am a big
Speaker 1: fan of Christian Fulton. Am I missing something that is
Speaker 1: the reason that he got pushed down here? Is it
Speaker 1: just lacking those traits? He was my sixtieth ranked player
Speaker 1: in this draft, um, and he just I mean he
Speaker 1: went right where I thought he's a joke. But this
Speaker 1: is I mean, they lost Logan Ryan, They're looking for
Speaker 1: that reliable player they could play inside outside, and Fulton's
Speaker 1: that guy. Uh you know you you do wonder is
Speaker 1: there anything kind of like we talked about with Jalen
Speaker 1: Johnson is there anything exceptional to what he does? Not? Really,
Speaker 1: He's solid size, sold speed, only two career picks, so
Speaker 1: he wasn't overly productive. But he didn't get beat a
Speaker 1: ton either, unless you're facing Henry Ruggs, who got him
Speaker 1: a few times. But this is just a quality player
Speaker 1: who maybe got pushed down a little bit because of
Speaker 1: the overall talent in this class. All right, well, now
Speaker 1: let's talk about a different cornerback. How about the ones
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys picked at number fifty one overall? On
Speaker 1: the phone with us right now, Trey Von Diggs is
Speaker 1: with us. Tray Von, first of all, congratulations and welcome
Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you. I appreciate everything. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having him. Happy to be a member in
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboy. What's it like talking to Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: on the phone? I feel like heeled sometimes be a storyteller.
Speaker 1: Where are you familiar with Jerry? And is it strange
Speaker 1: hearing him on the other end of your phone? I've
Speaker 1: always been offended Jerry like is amazing? Like when I
Speaker 1: first had talked to us, kind of starshut because of
Speaker 1: this life area Jonald I talking to So it was
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, I was star stuck. But
Speaker 1: you know, I love the Dallas Cowboys. Everything I brought
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I love the program. So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited with your Can you tell us about
Speaker 1: the video conference that you had with those guys? What
Speaker 1: kind of experience was that and not so much maybe
Speaker 1: what you guys were talking about, well what about you know,
Speaker 1: they probably would have had you in as one of
Speaker 1: the thirty visit guys, but now you had to do
Speaker 1: this over video conference. Did you get a feel for
Speaker 1: everybody doing it that way? Yeah? It was It was
Speaker 1: pretty Uh it was different, um, you know, just seeing
Speaker 1: everybody like on social media and technology and stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: not in person. But you know, it was good. We
Speaker 1: had a good conversation and our conversation went very well.
Speaker 1: So you know, I feel like, you know, that played
Speaker 1: affecting to them selecting me. I enjoyed talking to them.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed our conversation that I had with them. Man,
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be funny. I'm a happy, good
Speaker 1: part of team. You know, I want to win game
Speaker 1: and championships. So I'm ready to go, dray Von, even
Speaker 1: with it being a virtual after overall, your family still
Speaker 1: gets to be right next to you and you have
Speaker 1: that that explosive reaction from them. What was that moment, like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it was amazing, Like my heart dropped. When I got
Speaker 1: the call, I was like kind of like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I kind of paused for a second, like, Wow, this
Speaker 1: is really happened. I seen the area code pop up
Speaker 1: with Dallas, Texas. I said, wow, it's really happened. I
Speaker 1: look up on the screen. I see Chicago picking out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas is picking out of Chicago. So I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I don't really about to go to
Speaker 1: my dream, my dream. This isn't my dream. I always
Speaker 1: wanted to do this, and it's just amazing. I'm happy.
Speaker 1: You know, my family was right there to support me
Speaker 1: and be there with me throughout, you know, this draft,
Speaker 1: and you know, just keeping me encouraged and you know,
Speaker 1: staying positive, geting me positive energy and just telling me
Speaker 1: stay patient. And you know, I'm a far where exactly
Speaker 1: where I want to fall, and you know, they happened.
Speaker 1: I'm thankful, I think God, And it's just amazing. Drev.
Speaker 1: And speaking of your family, I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty normal to have a guy who's dad or
Speaker 1: uncle or cousin played in the league. It's pretty unique
Speaker 1: to talk to a guy who's brother, Your brother, Stefan
Speaker 1: is a is a five six year NFL veteran. What
Speaker 1: was that like? You know, having a guy who's who's
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now to help take you through
Speaker 1: this process, It's amazing. I'm just thankful because you know,
Speaker 1: he just did everything, like literally just did everything. Just
Speaker 1: did what I did in college. Now he's doing a protein.
Speaker 1: You know, he gave me many attempts and reminders that
Speaker 1: I need. You know, I can ask me like a
Speaker 1: you know, like a Google. He's Google to me. You know,
Speaker 1: he's like a father's figure to me. So you know,
Speaker 1: I asked me anything I want. And you know, he's
Speaker 1: just amazing to have him because you know, he can
Speaker 1: tell me everything all ins and out um and just
Speaker 1: helped me and guide me and you know, just help
Speaker 1: me grow in the NFL. And you know, I'm tremendously
Speaker 1: I'm tremendously thankful and you know, just blessed to have
Speaker 1: him and be in his position. Trayvon, you know you
Speaker 1: played in some big games and you you come from
Speaker 1: a big time program. Can you talk about the experience
Speaker 1: that Nick Saban and how he prepared you. I know
Speaker 1: he is on you those defensive backs, the techniques, things
Speaker 1: like that. How did that with his coaching, the big stage,
Speaker 1: all that prepare you for this opportunity now with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It helps out so much because he was so tight
Speaker 1: on me and so on me every day and just
Speaker 1: you know, made me a better football player, because if
Speaker 1: he wasn't on me like that, I just shows that
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't care, but it shows that he
Speaker 1: does care that he keeps reminding me and telling me
Speaker 1: things that you know, even if I corrected it before,
Speaker 1: He's still gonna remind me and still remind me the
Speaker 1: little things. You know, he expects the best out of me.
Speaker 1: So you know, I always got to be at my
Speaker 1: best on and off the field, and you know, just
Speaker 1: doing things right and you know, holding myself accountablees just
Speaker 1: building a lot of character and you know, just helping
Speaker 1: me grow. And you know, I thankful, thankful for him
Speaker 1: in the University of Alabama because everything that they do
Speaker 1: there is just playing a factor who I am today,
Speaker 1: and you know I can't be one and thankful everything
Speaker 1: that we did all the sprints, all the workouts, all
Speaker 1: the yelling, meetings, everything, it's just, you know, it's been amazing.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thankful I decided to go to that
Speaker 1: school and play on the coach Geam. It's just been amazing.
Speaker 1: I think him a lot too as well. I don't
Speaker 1: know if my memory is failing me. You've played against
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, haven't you, Trevlon No, I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: get to play against Ceedee Lamb. I was hurt that
Speaker 1: day year when when we went to the attempment to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He had a good game too. Okay, see
Speaker 1: if you had any opinions on him or any thoughts
Speaker 1: on him. But so for a guy who is playing
Speaker 1: wide receiver in just three years of cornerback to be
Speaker 1: drafted in the second round of the NFL Draft, that's
Speaker 1: that's quite an accomplishment. And it would see like that
Speaker 1: means your best football is certainly even ahead of you,
Speaker 1: even having been a really good college player. How much
Speaker 1: room for growth do you feel like you have in
Speaker 1: your game? I have femnisus amount of movement growth, and
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, you know, that's that beneficial
Speaker 1: in my situation. Because you know I can learn. I can,
Speaker 1: you know, learn from the older guys. I can learn
Speaker 1: from my coaches, I can learn my peers. And I
Speaker 1: have so much room for him from me that I'm
Speaker 1: a worker. I'm gonna work hard and I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: the promises. I'm gonna get that. All right, it's Treyvon Diggs,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys second round pick. Congratulations and welcome to the
Speaker 1: callous Dallas Cowboys. Treyvon, Congratulations, Trayvon, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: All Right, there he goes, Trayvon Diggs, your newest Dallas Cowboy,
Speaker 1: and from talking to him for five minutes, I like him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm a worker, I'm a worker. I'm ready. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: that's good. That's great. They've had a great first couple
Speaker 1: of rounds. And Sirie thinks that I'm talking to her
Speaker 1: for some reason and I'm not. That was so close
Speaker 1: to being an epic callback, Jeff, because I'm right there
Speaker 1: with you. I would have thought Diggs played against LAMB two.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like I was thinking. I was
Speaker 1: thinking playoff game. Did they play in a playoff game?
Speaker 1: AAMA plays Ou and Clemson like every season. At this point,
Speaker 1: Jeff defined me for help, and I was like the
Speaker 1: old krusty scout man. I couldn't remember. I threw my
Speaker 1: gave it like palms up emoji guy, and Jef said,
Speaker 1: I'm going Bertieway was scout. I was pretty sure. I
Speaker 1: was like, No, Bama and Oklahoma played in the playoff game. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're the Oklahoma fan. You should have known him.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not a fan of any program. I
Speaker 1: am an observer of college football at the highest level,
Speaker 1: and I go and watch Oklahoma again. Roll By Lsu
Speaker 1: just accepts. He accepts Amanda's sweet tickets is what he does.
Speaker 1: Here are the Chiefs at sixty three, with the sixty
Speaker 1: third pick twenty twenty NFL Draft, The Kansas City chief
Speaker 1: select Willie Gay, linebacker Mississippi State. Now there is a guy,
Speaker 1: Willie Gay junior, Dane Brugler, if you want to give
Speaker 1: us the scouting report and tell me if he had
Speaker 1: never had a suspension of any kind. Where does Willie
Speaker 1: Gay Junior get drafted? Yeah? Maybe snuck into the first maybe.
Speaker 1: You know we're talking about does he go with that
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks Patrick Queen group. Because this guy's explosive and
Speaker 1: not only initially, but as a finisher, he will strike
Speaker 1: through his target. Uh. Missed most of his past year
Speaker 1: because it's some academic stuff. But this is a player
Speaker 1: who when you see him on the field, the range
Speaker 1: that he plays with and then he matched it at
Speaker 1: the combine with the testing that he did the jumps
Speaker 1: the forty Uh, this is a guy with a lot
Speaker 1: of ability. Uh, and so not surprised that he went
Speaker 1: off the board here in the second round. Insane athlete.
Speaker 1: He's got a good right, insane that to get a
Speaker 1: good right, a light cross, it's like a truck that regard.
Speaker 1: And as a tackler, yeah, he's such a fun player
Speaker 1: to watch. He is like seriously, you watch him on
Speaker 1: tape and you're like, my gosh, he is not afraid
Speaker 1: to step up, take on blockers, get rid of them,
Speaker 1: and explode on these on these ball cares. I was
Speaker 1: really really impressed by him. I just I was. I
Speaker 1: just kind of was like every time I was like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a play, He's gonna make this play again.
Speaker 1: He's got But it was just that how much power
Speaker 1: that he played with. There's very few of those middle
Speaker 1: linebacker type guys in this draft, but he's one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the one guy you gotta look at. So the
Speaker 1: Chiefs have now taken Clyde Edwards to Hilaire in the
Speaker 1: first round, Billie Gay Junior in the second, and they
Speaker 1: got and they got the Lobardi Trophy last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are nice picks for a team that doesn't really
Speaker 1: need a lot. Now they took they took a luxury
Speaker 1: pick on the best receiving back in the class, just
Speaker 1: to make fun of us. All like watch this. We're
Speaker 1: gonna score thirty eight a game, so it'll be fun
Speaker 1: to watch. My favorite part of that was if you
Speaker 1: saw the call. Veach for the Chiefs was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we just asked Pat what he wanted and he told
Speaker 1: us he lair. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers gets a quarterbacks Damian
Speaker 1: Williams is sitting at the house like, man, that's really
Speaker 1: messed up. Pat, Like, I really helped you. Yeah for real.
Speaker 1: Damian Williams was like the Super Bowl MVP, let's be real.
Speaker 1: Sixty four Carolina Panthers the final pick of the second round.
Speaker 1: The pick is in. We will be waiting for him
Speaker 1: to announce that pick. Carolina Panthers. Any clues on where
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers might be headed. This pick's moved around
Speaker 1: a little bit. It went from Kansas City, then it
Speaker 1: was Seattle's, now it is Carolina's here at sixty four
Speaker 1: to end the second round. They've got defensive lineman both times, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have they Yeah, they snagged Brown in the first
Speaker 1: and then they come back out and they get an
Speaker 1: edge rusher in the second round. Man, I would have
Speaker 1: said that Lynch would have been a great fit here
Speaker 1: for for the Panthers, reuniting him with Matt Rule out
Speaker 1: of Baylor. But after they went defensive line with the
Speaker 1: first two picks, hard to see them doing it again.
Speaker 1: Our guy Zack bonstill sitting there. What about safety here though,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chen maybe corner, possibly corner. Secondary help. They need
Speaker 1: secondary help after losing Bradberry to the Giants in free agency.
Speaker 1: All right, well, when we get back, we will have
Speaker 1: the Carolina with Panthers pick and we will be moving
Speaker 1: into the third round. Getting ready to get to that
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys pick at number eighty two. Listening to the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three the
Speaker 1: fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And here we go,
Speaker 1: here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Sticking with it as
Speaker 1: we do have the final pick here of the second
Speaker 1: round David Hellman and Dane Brugler here. Jeff Kavanaugh and
Speaker 1: Brian brought us also along with us as well. But uh, guys,
Speaker 1: you've got the Panthers here, and then you move into
Speaker 1: the third and of course the Cowboys picking at eighty two.
Speaker 1: We still got a long way to go until we
Speaker 1: get to that eighty second pick. But now you're starting
Speaker 1: to kind of see those names that drop that you
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily think, and Bond is one that continues to
Speaker 1: come up that is just kind of a question mark
Speaker 1: on why he's fallen this far. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can watch his tape and
Speaker 1: not be excited about him. I talked about a guy
Speaker 1: that I just kept seeing that every time that the
Speaker 1: ball was going away from him, I think he's not
Speaker 1: going to get there, but he'll make that play. You
Speaker 1: know ed he's got the capability. Everybody now in this
Speaker 1: in this day and age, is looking or that that
Speaker 1: linebacker that can run, that can rush. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a guy that's got tools to his game. It's
Speaker 1: just not just that one trick pony guy. As we
Speaker 1: say in scouting, here's a guy that's got something to
Speaker 1: his game. And and maybe maybe teams are thinking more
Speaker 1: about the deluded sample. Maybe maybe that's what's going on now.
Speaker 1: Brian broad Us, who loves the player, is saying he's
Speaker 1: trying to keep waterway all that stuff like that. But
Speaker 1: with the collective bargaining agreement the way it is, i mean,
Speaker 1: if a guy's got a deluded test, don't you kind
Speaker 1: of like going? And so I would be like, I've
Speaker 1: done that. I've made a whole career. I've made a
Speaker 1: whole career looking away from the deluded test. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, give you the guy, give me that guy.
Speaker 1: Y'all take the deluded test. Brian, Yeah, do you know
Speaker 1: do you know who picks after Carolina? Can you see Cincinnati?
Speaker 1: You know what, there's your team that's not afraid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always in my media, guy, I'm gonna say I
Speaker 1: worked with the Cincinnati Bengals. I'm just gonna lie. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lie that I work for the Cincinnati Bengals, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's my team. When they just they don't care,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're basic out Borrow, Yeah, why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think it must be now teams
Speaker 1: are worried about what happened to him at the combine.
Speaker 1: And that's a shame that that's the case. But and
Speaker 1: I thought we would now the collective bargaining. I've said
Speaker 1: it before. Can't be out there messing with the crippler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike Fisher, the crippler aft there messing with the crippler. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: just to reset the board. Top five available players on
Speaker 1: my board, h Josh Jones tackle out of Houston, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Linebacker Zach Vaughn, Lloyd Cushionberry guards center out of LSU,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chinn, safety out of Southern Illinois, and then Justin
Speaker 1: Mattaboutca defensive tackle out of Texas A and m Yeah,
Speaker 1: there must be something wrong with him too, you know
Speaker 1: that those character stuff. Well here, yes, we got the
Speaker 1: picks in. Let's see what happens here with the commissioner
Speaker 1: in Carolina. Uh. And the last of second round, there's
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin. There you go, Jeremy Chin off the board.
Speaker 1: Call that one you say I did? I didn't say Chin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, I said position Dane was the one that guys,
Speaker 1: we were we were tag team in that one. But
Speaker 1: that is the final pick of the second round. Now
Speaker 1: you have the Bengals up, and with the Bengals past history,
Speaker 1: like David alluded to just a moment ago, you're thinking
Speaker 1: Zach Bond here saying they're not afraid, They're never afraid.
Speaker 1: Is there an Ohio player on the board still here?
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking a big ten player, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. The Brown family's all about that as big ten.
Speaker 1: This could be this could be Bonde. So wait, the Bengals.
Speaker 1: The Bengals went with Higgins at the start of this thing,
Speaker 1: right right right, Yeah, And I sat there and said,
Speaker 1: they need a tackle, and here I'm thinking they should
Speaker 1: draft Josh Jones thirty three. Yeah, and he's still sitting here. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I would. Okay, Now, what's wrong with Josh Jones? Seriously?
Speaker 1: What is wrong with I mean, he's raw, right, but
Speaker 1: so what he guy? He has some character stuff earlier
Speaker 1: in his career, but I heard, you know, being a
Speaker 1: red Shard senior, he was passed all of that. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how much that plays in um he
Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. When you watched him on tape.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the best pass rusher you saw him
Speaker 1: go against? That was Marius Hamilton. That was unt zone,
Speaker 1: So I'll throw that out there. That was my biggest
Speaker 1: worry with Josh Jones is all of his tape. I
Speaker 1: just didn't see him go up against a big time
Speaker 1: pass rusher. That made made me get really really jacked
Speaker 1: about what he could do. Now, he did a nice
Speaker 1: job of the Senior Bowl, but still the tape was good,
Speaker 1: but the competition level wasn't necessarily there. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: that's something you always got to worry about with those
Speaker 1: American Conference teams that don't play a strong out of
Speaker 1: conference schedule. Maybe Oklahoma would probably be his his toughest.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that was great tape overall for
Speaker 1: Josh Jones. But there's a couple on board here. We
Speaker 1: just lost Logan Wilson to the Cincinnati Bengals. Smart pick
Speaker 1: yep A smart pick. The twenty twenty NFL Draft continues
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three
Speaker 1: the Fan. We are into Round three of the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft and we just had Wyoming's linebacker Logan Wilson go
Speaker 1: off the board to the Cincinnati Bengals at number sixty five,
Speaker 1: Cowboys pick at eighty two, and Logan Wilson. I think
Speaker 1: the biggest knock that I had on him was that
Speaker 1: he played at Wyoming. I mean, you want production, you
Speaker 1: want a guy, make him plays in coverage and against
Speaker 1: the run and tackling. Logan Wilson is a really good player.
Speaker 1: Making it all the way to sixty five. He's a
Speaker 1: great player. And I think if I don't want to
Speaker 1: bring the room down again, but I'm going to because
Speaker 1: the blanket of the team now. Four of the last
Speaker 1: five picks have been guys that you would argue that
Speaker 1: you really wanted to fall to eighty two. You've got Fulton,
Speaker 1: Willie Gay, Junior, Jeremy chinon Logan Wilson. Those are four
Speaker 1: guys that they would have gone to eighty two. I
Speaker 1: would have been excited about. Who are you saying, NA about?
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Jeremy Chin wasn't gonna be the pick
Speaker 1: in Dallas. That's I just I don't believe he's gone
Speaker 1: now anyway, But I don't go as our fast food
Speaker 1: bet true and then and and my point and Logan Wilson,
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player, But it feels too
Speaker 1: early for a linebacker for me. I'm looking at linebackers
Speaker 1: on Day three, so I'm not sad about him going
Speaker 1: off the board. All Right, you guys want to reset.
Speaker 1: I know Dane set us up with his top five
Speaker 1: available recently. I've got my top five available for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that I would like to see picked. That's left
Speaker 1: in the draft right now. If you're following at home,
Speaker 1: we'll get it after the Washington pick. Right here. Gibson
Speaker 1: running back, Memphis running back slash, wide receiver, slash. Get
Speaker 1: the ball in the dude's hands and let him work.
Speaker 1: Very much like Tony Pollard last year Memphis. Different players,
Speaker 1: but same sort of thing. Get the ball in Antonio
Speaker 1: Gibson's hand and let him work. And I think that
Speaker 1: that is what Washington is going to do. He's a
Speaker 1: pretty good one day. How's your scouting report on Antonio Gibson?
Speaker 1: Just get the ball in his hands, and I think
Speaker 1: what's the that's the debate. Is he a running back?
Speaker 1: Is he a receiver? All I know is when he
Speaker 1: had a chance to do something with the ball, he
Speaker 1: would create. And this is a He's a big guy
Speaker 1: at six foot two, hundred and twenty eight pounds, really
Speaker 1: good athlete. Ran in the leave. He got in the
Speaker 1: four threes at the combine four three nine. So if
Speaker 1: you want to use him in a slot, you want
Speaker 1: to use him my jet sweeps, you want to use
Speaker 1: him out of the backfield. You can get creative with
Speaker 1: a player like this, and I think his best football
Speaker 1: is ahead of him. So my top five guys for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, And tell me if you guys want to
Speaker 1: add names or if you disagree with them, but where
Speaker 1: we sit right now, Zach Bond like it at Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: Justin Mattabuke at A and M that'd be great, Jordan
Speaker 1: Elliott at Missouri, Terrell Burgess at Utah, and Akeem Davis Gaither.
Speaker 1: That's my top five guys available to think are at
Speaker 1: positions that could help the Cowboys. And I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys there because even with
Speaker 1: some of the names that are falling here, like a
Speaker 1: Josh Jones and an Ashton Davis, that's still on the board.
Speaker 1: And Prince Tega went on, I want to go from
Speaker 1: from Auburn. I mean, there's still picks to be made here,
Speaker 1: even quarterbacks that haven't gone, think about this might be
Speaker 1: the sweet spot for a Jake from or a Jacob
Speaker 1: Easton to potentially go. I think there's some I would
Speaker 1: throw Neville Gallimore in there, that's true, Um, Julian Aquara
Speaker 1: from noted, Yeah, for sure, they'll sitting there. I would
Speaker 1: even How do y'all feel about is it? Is it
Speaker 1: too soon to talk about Zooniga Florida za Zooigay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would be a guy I would consider. I thought
Speaker 1: the traits I was worried about. I might have missed
Speaker 1: something there. I have him a lot higher than people do.
Speaker 1: But I was watching the Florida tape of him, and
Speaker 1: I was seeing the first step quickness. I've seen a
Speaker 1: guy getting around the edge. I've seen a guy being disruptive.
Speaker 1: So I might be way way high on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish he wasn't so banged up in this in
Speaker 1: this most recent season. But so those are some Those
Speaker 1: are some defensive linemen. And then we hit on the centers.
Speaker 1: I don't think they need to do it. They have
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern obviously, Joe Looney's here, but I mean every
Speaker 1: center except for Caesar Ruiz is there. Lloyd Cushionberry Tyler
Speaker 1: beats Matt Hennessey, So if they want to do that,
Speaker 1: they can. But I mean, for the most part, I think, Jeff,
Speaker 1: your list is is pretty solid. Well, thank you, thank you, Dave.
Speaker 1: How are we? How's everybody on Cameron Danceler? Did the
Speaker 1: forty scare you like it did me? I've got him
Speaker 1: bottom a second early third, but I'm here, I got
Speaker 1: I pushed him down with a forty time. I'd be
Speaker 1: okay with him at eighty two though, if he's the
Speaker 1: best available there corner wise, I swear to god i'd
Speaker 1: gone already address corner that I'd have gone to start
Speaker 1: field and got him running a lot faster. Boys, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking four three faster. They said, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: It was the thirty eight yard time he was faster.
Speaker 1: How can you? How can you know? Watch that tape
Speaker 1: and like be impressed by the way he played? Was
Speaker 1: he does? He played well? Everybody's like, oh, he's a
Speaker 1: second round guy, and then he runs bad. Jeff goes,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's in the fourth for me. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, Jamara, he didn't play Sloan, not at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I work with a bunch of Cowards, that's
Speaker 1: where he goes. I would feel fine drafting him at
Speaker 1: eighty two. But we're starting to get into a spot
Speaker 1: where I can you know, we're getting close enough to
Speaker 1: the point where you can envision what the board's gonna
Speaker 1: look like. And I'm not convinced he would be your
Speaker 1: best available option. I mean, I think there's other names
Speaker 1: there that are more intrigued. Did we say say Okuara? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah we did. Okay, I'm sure he might be. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I would for me. For me, I think Oquara Gallimore
Speaker 1: and Jordan Elliott, oh and Bond obviously, like Bond is
Speaker 1: probably tops, but those are the names that really stand
Speaker 1: out to me right now. Burgess is my name that
Speaker 1: stands out. Yeah, scooped him up, Just scooped him up.
Speaker 1: This more learning Dane scooped him in the mock draft.
Speaker 1: And I think getting a safety in here with coverage ability,
Speaker 1: reliable tackler, versatility, Yeah, I think for a team that's
Speaker 1: got two safeties on a one year deal right now,
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods and Haha, Clinton Dicks. If the right guy
Speaker 1: is there, and to me, that's the right guy at safety,
Speaker 1: He's be happy with that. Has Detroit addressed their edge
Speaker 1: rush problem because they need an edge rusher, and I
Speaker 1: don't think they've picked one because they selected a Kuda.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, and they took DeAndre Swift in the
Speaker 1: second round. So edge rusher man. Yeah, they might go,
Speaker 1: they might go not yeah, they might take Aquara here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver still out there as well. Oh, I didn't remember.
Speaker 1: I forgot about Curtis Weaver. Dane, were you okay with
Speaker 1: him standing up all the time as a rusher? Weaver? Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: he's he's tough to figure out. Bad body guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's predictable, but really good with his hands
Speaker 1: and you can't ignore the productions. So the Commissiers Dane
Speaker 1: real quick twenty NFL draft the Detroit Lions. So like
Speaker 1: Julian Ouah minebacker notre Day. I am a fan of
Speaker 1: Julian Aquara. I had him as a second round guy.
Speaker 1: I think the tools to be a really good pass rusher.
Speaker 1: I think he's got him. I think the athletic ability,
Speaker 1: the movement, skills, the length. I liked a lot about him.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna make eighty two, but
Speaker 1: it would have been a lot of fun if he
Speaker 1: did so, Julian o'quara, Dane, you're scouting report there. I
Speaker 1: really struggled with him because I think you're you're spot
Speaker 1: on with the traits and the natural ability. The speed
Speaker 1: has a chance to be special off the edge, but
Speaker 1: he has no idea how to use his hands. He's
Speaker 1: a little soft in the run game. That really bothered me.
Speaker 1: And I hate using that sword when talking about these
Speaker 1: guys because that's kind of a it's a cuss word. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not nice, and so I apologize, but
Speaker 1: it's what you see, that's what the tape says. And
Speaker 1: it's just too many, almost most plays on his tape,
Speaker 1: you know. And so but you know, we're in the
Speaker 1: third round now, and so we're talking about traits, we're
Speaker 1: talking about upside of potential and what he can be. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, the Lions are very familiar with the Acora family.
Speaker 1: They had his brother. Uh they still have them, don't they. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's is he still in the roster? You're still on
Speaker 1: the roster. I was trying to look that up right now,
Speaker 1: and I think you're very familiar with with that family.
Speaker 1: In the the ability that he has also a Notre
Speaker 1: Dame product, by the way, his brother. So now we
Speaker 1: got the New York Jets on the clock where it
Speaker 1: picks sixty eight Cowboys at eighty two. We're looking at
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, which is a Lion's head coach, while the
Speaker 1: Jets are on the clock. So that's kind of confusing.
Speaker 1: Or I guess it's at the aftermath of their pick. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that makes more sense. So we're waiting on a Jets pick.
Speaker 1: Then it'll be Seattle and then Miami. We're here in
Speaker 1: the early part of the third round of the draft
Speaker 1: here on one O five three The Fan and Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. New York Jets so far have added
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton to play offensive tackle. They've added Denzel Mims
Speaker 1: to play wide receiver out of Baylor, and this will
Speaker 1: be their third pick of the draft. Outside of what
Speaker 1: they've already addressed on the offensive line and at wide receiver,
Speaker 1: where else might we think they're going cornerback help? They
Speaker 1: need corner in the worst way. And you know I
Speaker 1: mentioned it before. I don't think their fans could name
Speaker 1: the top three corners on their rosters. So it picks
Speaker 1: in Dance Ashton Davis say it's gone Ashton Davis. I
Speaker 1: think he could play a little bit of cornerback. I
Speaker 1: mean he looks like a corners two hundred pounds, So
Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily this is him. Just put
Speaker 1: him at safety and that's it. Uh. They might be
Speaker 1: able to look at him as a nickelback, someone that
Speaker 1: can play a little inside, a little outside. Ashton Davis
Speaker 1: is a fun player. All right. Here's my problem with
Speaker 1: the Ashton Davis pick. I have a huge problem with
Speaker 1: this pick. He's not account you wanted him. No, I
Speaker 1: was fine with him going like Burgess actually better than Davis.
Speaker 1: I might be the only one, but I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: Burgess to me, now is going to be the next
Speaker 1: safety picked. Are there other options that could be the
Speaker 1: next safety pick that could keep him moving down the board.
Speaker 1: What if somebody likes Wallace from Wallace Wallace from Clemson,
Speaker 1: because if you watch him play, he plays like a
Speaker 1: slot player too. You know that weird? You get confused
Speaker 1: watching Clemson's defense. Yeah, I mean they do things with
Speaker 1: their secondary. You're like, oh, that's not sound, you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no they don't. But they get away with
Speaker 1: it because they get their front home because they got
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, they got guys to get Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean besides Burgess, you got Brandon Jones out of Texas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: out of Iowa, Tanner Music, Clemson. Stone's a good player, though.
Speaker 1: I like Stone. My safety's left goes Burgess and then Stone.
Speaker 1: And my next guy is actually the XFL guy, Robinson Robinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I forget about him. I like Kenny Robinson and then
Speaker 1: Cavan Wallace and then Brandon Jones. But I worried that
Speaker 1: Burgess maybe the next safety off the board. And so we'll, uh,
Speaker 1: we'll keep track of just that's fine. Just push Sackbon
Speaker 1: all the way down. Just push Sackbon all the way
Speaker 1: to eighty two. And let's see. Could you imagine if
Speaker 1: Zach Bond was there at eighty two and you know,
Speaker 1: Lamb Trayvon Diggs and Zach Bond as your draft class
Speaker 1: in days one and two. I wouldn't mind that at all.
Speaker 1: In another linebacker, I'll take app State to Keem Davis
Speaker 1: Gaither and if you want to try him strong safety,
Speaker 1: I'm at Snyder's about to pick him. Watch. John is
Speaker 1: gonna take a guy that can run, you know, linebackers
Speaker 1: that can run. Harry took one in the first round, though,
Speaker 1: well he doesn't care. You know, he doesn't care. In
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select Amien
Speaker 1: Lewis Guards. There you go, damiens player drafted so far.
Speaker 1: I think no Delpit went to Cleveland guys. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. Second round Damian Lewis round scouting report from
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler. Massive guy, and this is someone that the
Speaker 1: LSU coaching style loves because of the meaner that he
Speaker 1: plays with, toughness. You don't see a lot of negative
Speaker 1: reps on his tape. Not the most mobile guy. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna ask him to be on the move very much.
Speaker 1: He'll bury you, yeah, in his phone and in his
Speaker 1: little phone booth. Yeah, you're right. He will beat you
Speaker 1: up and and bury you to the ground. So he's
Speaker 1: a fun player. Yeah. I think he had to make
Speaker 1: a lot of plays because Christian Berry was kind of
Speaker 1: if he had time. I'm just saying that I sat
Speaker 1: next to cow I'm just saying now, boys are definitely
Speaker 1: drafting Christian Berry. Now if they do. If they do, great,
Speaker 1: I mean, will crack a Miller light if they draft
Speaker 1: I just just a wide bass guy. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just don't. I mean, I see a catcher there. I
Speaker 1: just don't. I like the I like the other guy
Speaker 1: better from Temple. But hey, we'll see. Are we here? You?
Speaker 1: We saw you just swerved out. Have you swerved out
Speaker 1: of your plane to fire a shot at cushion? John's
Speaker 1: put on some weight? What's going on? Oh? Wow, get
Speaker 1: on friends, You get on soda for six months and
Speaker 1: start taking shots at people's weight. Text him, text him
Speaker 1: and tell me fat. Say I said you're fat? I
Speaker 1: will I got just no Braw'll show you that he was.
Speaker 1: He's kind of wearing that football. Football guys who have
Speaker 1: let themselves go love to wear that wet pants now.
Speaker 1: They just love to wear that like windbreaker outfits, like
Speaker 1: the like the ambiguous windbreaker thing. It doesn't really have
Speaker 1: sleeves up, No sleeves just kind of hangs down. I just,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not surprised because the Seahawks offensive line
Speaker 1: has been trying to get Russell Wilson killed for years.
Speaker 1: But I feel like they've added about nineteen old linemen
Speaker 1: to that roster just this offseason alone. We get the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins on the clock at seventy we are working
Speaker 1: our way towards eighty two, will come back with the
Speaker 1: Dolphins pick, and then seventy one, seventy two, and all
Speaker 1: the way down to eighty two. You're listening to the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three The
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And here's the internet
Speaker 1: side of things, as once again, I feel like this
Speaker 1: is every twenty minutes, but the Miami Miami Dolphins are
Speaker 1: on the clock again, believe it or not, because they've
Speaker 1: got just a handful of picks. Throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the draft, Cowboys just about outside of that range where
Speaker 1: we can start seeing how the board is shaping up.
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomen's Jeff Kavanaugh, Brian brought us, David Hellman and
Speaker 1: the great Dane Brugler with you here on the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft show. And of course, with eleven
Speaker 1: picks left, there's a lot of things that can happen,
Speaker 1: but there are some really interesting names still available. Zach Bond,
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver, Justin Mattabeke, Brandon Jones in like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh was saying a little bit earlier. There's some safeties
Speaker 1: there that have some have some oomph to them if
Speaker 1: you're talking about Tarell Burgess maybe in that category as well.
Speaker 1: So with the Dolphins on the clock here, they've had
Speaker 1: one of the more intriguing drafts because they've kind of
Speaker 1: gone outside of the realm of what we thought could happen.
Speaker 1: What do you think maybe again here with the Dolphins
Speaker 1: at seventy, we got to work through all the picks
Speaker 1: that they've already made. I know it's tough. You got
Speaker 1: to go back through chapters. Yeah, quarterback to h they
Speaker 1: took Austin Jackson at offensive tackle, Noah Igbanogny at corner
Speaker 1: illstimate tackle here, ray Kuan Davis at defensive tackle. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: that team needs everything. If linebackers one of those things,
Speaker 1: Zach Bonn or Akeem Davis gaither, they would be at
Speaker 1: the top of my board for the linebackers. Harrison at
Speaker 1: Ohio State at linebacker. Right now, they've got ray Kwon
Speaker 1: McMillan and Jerome Bakers or linebackers, and I don't think
Speaker 1: they're feeling super great about that right So that being said,
Speaker 1: I could see them going linebacker here. You can maybe
Speaker 1: say safety because I didn't hear a safety mentioned in there.
Speaker 1: They haven't taken one of them. They took a corner.
Speaker 1: We're trying to dodge that here, Kyle's on purpose. We're
Speaker 1: trying to dodge that. Kyle trying to get Drell Burgess there. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want Terrell Burgess there, and I don't want him
Speaker 1: to be the next safety picked. I would rather be
Speaker 1: like a Brandon Jones or uh, I don't even know
Speaker 1: who we mentioned earlier in that con zone. Yeah, Gino Stone,
Speaker 1: that's fine, Yeah, that's fine, let him go and we'll
Speaker 1: we'll take Terrell Burgess. But I mean, I think linebacker
Speaker 1: or safety is probably where they could go here. Could
Speaker 1: they add a wide receiver? Maybe? Yeah, they could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's everybody's top wide receiver? Left? I bet this is where.
Speaker 1: I bet this is where it gets really fun because
Speaker 1: for me, it's actually kJ Hill, then Brian Edwards, then
Speaker 1: Antonio Gandy Gold. Those are my top three receivers. Give
Speaker 1: me Edward, yeah, I would. I think you guys are
Speaker 1: hating on a great route runner in kJ Hill and
Speaker 1: not appreciate it. I love kJ Hill to death, but
Speaker 1: I can't draft a guy that runs I've got six
Speaker 1: five in the third round, I've got an incredible round
Speaker 1: there where it's got Prochet duven at Van Jefferson was
Speaker 1: in that group along with kJ Hill and Bowden. That
Speaker 1: was kind of Limboden Junior is my name. That was
Speaker 1: kind of my little group of like, oh, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of keeping an eye on you guys over here. I'm
Speaker 1: really sad about I'm really sad that I just have
Speaker 1: to let go of all these receivers. I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: rather have Ceedee lamb. Don't get me wrong, but like
Speaker 1: I've been, I've been watching this position for months and
Speaker 1: maybe they double up on receiver, but it's not as
Speaker 1: high of a priority. I mean it's the fifty burger
Speaker 1: offensive thing, yeah for real. But Brian Edwards before Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb fell, Brian Edwards would have been a pipe dream
Speaker 1: at eighty two. I would have loved that pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brandon Jones just went we did. We got a different safety.
Speaker 1: You go, all right, suckers. Yes, I like Brandon Jones.
Speaker 1: I had him be in the fourth though, But I
Speaker 1: like Brandon Jones. But Roll Burges I got his two three,
Speaker 1: so hey, there hang their burges Cam interested because Jeff
Speaker 1: and I were split on this guy, Dane as far
Speaker 1: can he cover or can he not cover? I don't
Speaker 1: trust him in coverage. Yeah, I think you're I think
Speaker 1: you're right. I think you want him. I wasn't impressed
Speaker 1: with him as a nickel, but the closer he was
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, that's where I liked him because
Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job with the play
Speaker 1: in front of him. But when he had to turn
Speaker 1: his back to the ball, that's where I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a little money. I just kind of thought
Speaker 1: that he was a little bit of a better cover
Speaker 1: guy than and and he's got an athletic ability. Jeff
Speaker 1: and I were going back and forth because people were
Speaker 1: asking us about him, you know, on our during our show,
Speaker 1: like what what's your problem with Brandon Jones? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think the guy can cover, yeah, But Jeff is like,
Speaker 1: I'd rather see him play down is where he and
Speaker 1: you know, it looks like the highlights are showing a
Speaker 1: little bit. That looks like they're showing a little coverage.
Speaker 1: He just needs to keep the ball in front of him.
Speaker 1: I think if the ball, if he has to turn
Speaker 1: his back to the ball, That's where I thought he
Speaker 1: just he looked lost. So as long I think he
Speaker 1: could play high, as long as the ball stays in
Speaker 1: front of him, well him up like Jabrill Peppers, like
Speaker 1: forty five yards off the line. Here you go. Just
Speaker 1: get ready to be a punt returners, a safety. I
Speaker 1: like that plan. So what do we got? We got
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens up at seventy one, working our way
Speaker 1: to eighty two or Terrell Burgess will be on the board.
Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty NFL Draft with Jeff Kavanaugh.
Speaker 1: Prian brought us Dane Hellman, Dane Brugler, and Kyle Yeoman niece.
Speaker 1: They lost to safety, but it was Brandon Jones, not
Speaker 1: Terrell Burgess. Here's Baltimore selection Justin Matta Bouque, defensive tackle
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. That would be a guy that
Speaker 1: is coming off of the list of guys I would
Speaker 1: love to see the Cowboys pick up at eighty two.
Speaker 1: Mada Bouque. I was. I was really high on his tape.
Speaker 1: I had him. I liked him at the top of
Speaker 1: the second round, and here we are in the middle
Speaker 1: of the third where he goes and it goes to
Speaker 1: I think Dane and Brian some of the things that
Speaker 1: you hear about that I don't get to find out
Speaker 1: when I just watched tape. But on tape, man, I
Speaker 1: love the tools you have. I love was he six
Speaker 1: and a half sacks back to back years, back to
Speaker 1: back years of double digit tackles for loss. I think
Speaker 1: he can win early. I think he can pressure the quarterback.
Speaker 1: And he's off the board at number seventy one. Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny. I was talking to a scout about George
Speaker 1: Elliott at a Missouri defensive tackle and Matt Bouquet saying,
Speaker 1: these guys got some talent they flash on tape. Had
Speaker 1: the scout kind of look at me, or actually he
Speaker 1: didn't look at me as over the phone, and he
Speaker 1: kind of I could hear in his voice though he
Speaker 1: was yeah. And the interviews did not go well for
Speaker 1: those two players and for different teams. So but the
Speaker 1: Ravens what do they do? They sit and they wait
Speaker 1: and good players fall to them. And this is a
Speaker 1: power packed player, twitchy, he can rush, he can make
Speaker 1: plays in the run game or against the run. There's
Speaker 1: a lot to like about what he offers. I think
Speaker 1: that this is a guy I've said all along that
Speaker 1: I probably could be the wrong most wrong about you know,
Speaker 1: because I went back and forth on him about the
Speaker 1: twitch athlete and things like that, and then I just
Speaker 1: saw like lack of awareness. Like there were times you
Speaker 1: watched him the Clemson game, he got trapped like four
Speaker 1: times in a row and they never figured it out.
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like going, gosh, dang, man,
Speaker 1: are you getting tired of getting hit in the side
Speaker 1: of the head. You know, play with your hands, keep
Speaker 1: that outside shoulder free. And then you know, but he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Dang's right though he can create turnovers.
Speaker 1: He can. He's got athletic ability. He just doesn't show
Speaker 1: it enough. That's what bothered him. Here's here's a pick
Speaker 1: from the commissioner for the Arizona Cardinal Josh Jones, that
Speaker 1: finally took long enough. There is a free fall ending
Speaker 1: there for a guy that I had seen in some
Speaker 1: first round mox. It'll be Josh Jones there to the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals at seventy two. So I played the you know,
Speaker 1: I played the game that draft nerds love to play,
Speaker 1: where you pick your top thirty two players that you
Speaker 1: think have the best chance to go in the first round.
Speaker 1: Here it picks seventy two. I finally crossed them all off,
Speaker 1: which I'm not an expert expert, so I'm not surprised
Speaker 1: that it took. So I am surprised that the last
Speaker 1: guy to go is Josh Jones. I would not have
Speaker 1: guessed that heading into the draft. Well, and this is
Speaker 1: a guy who was even though he was at Houston,
Speaker 1: he was recruited by Tom Herman to Houston. You got
Speaker 1: to think about whenever back when before Tom was the
Speaker 1: head coach of Texas and according to Pro Football Focus,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the grade they have of him right now,
Speaker 1: and he was graded above a ninety three in almost
Speaker 1: every category. And so I like Josh Jones. I actually
Speaker 1: met him at the combine, which was kind of fun
Speaker 1: in the airport. He was on my flight, but he
Speaker 1: was unpredictable on his tape with his hands, and I
Speaker 1: think that kept defensive linemen off balance. But we kind
Speaker 1: of talked about it earlier. Those defensive linemen were not
Speaker 1: necessarily the top of the cream of the crop. It
Speaker 1: was the American Athletic Conference. It was guys like Ladarius
Speaker 1: Hamilton from You and T and then also you you
Speaker 1: throw in maybe Oklahoma there as well. So I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised that he fell, but I'm surprised he fell this
Speaker 1: far is kind of where I met Greed. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I mentioned how you watch his tape and it was
Speaker 1: hard to get too excited about the competition he was
Speaker 1: going up against. That was my biggest issue with him.
Speaker 1: But in past protection, he just didn't get beat very often.
Speaker 1: And so you see light feet, you see the ability
Speaker 1: to mirror in space. Not a bully, not a guy
Speaker 1: that's going to overwhelm at the point of attack, but
Speaker 1: just a solid player who surprised in his tackle starved league.
Speaker 1: Surprised he would last this long into the third, But
Speaker 1: look at the Cardinals get Isaiah Simmons in the first
Speaker 1: and then they don't pick again until a third. They
Speaker 1: had to feel pretty good about landing Josh Jones at
Speaker 1: this point. I actually, I think on Thursday night day
Speaker 1: and I said, how can you go away from a
Speaker 1: tackle if you don't pick until the third count? Twell,
Speaker 1: it worked out for him. This guy's a really good athlete, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just going through my notes and
Speaker 1: how he plays with range. He gets the second level easy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the contact balance was good. I mean, I
Speaker 1: was just I thought that the athletic ability allowed him
Speaker 1: to overcome any technical issues that he might have, you know,
Speaker 1: So I was I was impressed by this Scott. I
Speaker 1: thought maybe he'd get a little top heavy at times,
Speaker 1: but I mean he gets away with it just because
Speaker 1: of how good of an athlete he is. So now
Speaker 1: we're at seventy three with the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're within
Speaker 1: ten picks of the Dallas Cowboys and trying to whittle
Speaker 1: these names down and see if we can't hone in
Speaker 1: on a couple of guys that would make sense for them.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start throwing out the names again. Zach Bonn,
Speaker 1: that's the big one. Is that name still getting closer?
Speaker 1: Zach Bonn, A Keem Davis Gaither, MALIEK. Harrison. Those are
Speaker 1: my top three linebackers remaining. Terrell Burgess at safety out
Speaker 1: of Utah, Jordan Elliott at de tackle out of Missouri,
Speaker 1: Terrell Lewis pass rusher from Bama, Curtis Weaver pass rusher
Speaker 1: from Boise, and then I guess in Neville Gallimore, the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma defensive tackle. I've got Harrison Bryant, the tight end
Speaker 1: going around this area. I'm a big fan of his
Speaker 1: and Cushionberry. That's the names I would throw out there
Speaker 1: when I add anything to the pile. I'm still working
Speaker 1: off my top fifty one I've got. As I look
Speaker 1: at my number, Zach Bond would be at twenty seven,
Speaker 1: I'm Ben, and then Cameron Danzler would be at forty four.
Speaker 1: Jabari Zagina would be at forty five, and then a
Speaker 1: Keem gather Davis would be at forty nine, and in
Speaker 1: Matt Hennessee at fifty. So that's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 1: That's a center, a defensive end. Two linebackers on a
Speaker 1: corner is what I'm looking at off my top fifty one. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: I want to play Devil's advocate here for a split second.
Speaker 1: What about quarterback? Second or third round? I know there's
Speaker 1: plenty of names here. I would personally not even touch it.
Speaker 1: Here's my theory on backup quarterback. If you're firing off
Speaker 1: one of your fifth round picks, because is if he
Speaker 1: played a couple of games and played well or looked
Speaker 1: good in preseason, maybe you could flip that later for
Speaker 1: a two or three suite. But if you're picking him
Speaker 1: in the third round, especially with names there, can you
Speaker 1: really build that guy's stock. He's probably not gonna play.
Speaker 1: But even if he did, are you really gonna up
Speaker 1: what that value from a third round pick in a
Speaker 1: game or two or in some preseason games. I get
Speaker 1: it with a five or a six, But with a three,
Speaker 1: what if not unless I'm thinking I'm picking a guy
Speaker 1: who might start Let me ask you this, just in
Speaker 1: a thought about the quarterback. What if you did take
Speaker 1: a guy like from and and he's like a career
Speaker 1: backup guy, you know, like DA's Dak gets signed, but
Speaker 1: you have a good, stable backup guy that's not gonna
Speaker 1: cause problems and stuff like that. You know, does that
Speaker 1: make sense? No? D You know? I mean, okay, who's like,
Speaker 1: who's the best? Is your Is your quarterback signed long
Speaker 1: term right now? David? No, he's not. Okay, then then
Speaker 1: you should be really quiet right now because why because
Speaker 1: because he under contract? He is he is he under
Speaker 1: club control. Okay, he's under you want do you want
Speaker 1: to continue to go down the path of every year
Speaker 1: having a franchise tag the guy? No, I want to
Speaker 1: sign him? Okay, as he signed. No, why is he
Speaker 1: not signed? Why is he not signed? The because money
Speaker 1: is a b. It's not money, Dave. It's years. It's
Speaker 1: four years or five years, is what it is. And
Speaker 1: you're not willing to to to and and what Jake
Speaker 1: from is going to be your leverage to fix this
Speaker 1: magical situation. I am just saying though that if you,
Speaker 1: if you thought enough of the guy to do that
Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback, if this guy, if this guy
Speaker 1: didn't sign with you, I don't think you could discount
Speaker 1: now me personally, I would go out and sign that.
Speaker 1: I'd go out and signed the kid it was at Tampa,
Speaker 1: you know, or or that that's who I would go sign. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would go sign jameis Wits. If you want to
Speaker 1: play and still out there, Yeah, if you want to
Speaker 1: play a round with me at quarterback, that's fine. You know,
Speaker 1: if you want to hold me up and you know
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make you a decent offer. Okay. Who
Speaker 1: are like? Who are like the best career backups in
Speaker 1: the NFL over the last like decade or or or
Speaker 1: maybe more. Culton McCoy keeps hanging around, didn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, I had Super Bowl. Well what did another
Speaker 1: team in the NFC East do in the second round? Yeah,
Speaker 1: their guy can't stay on the field. Well, our guy
Speaker 1: never leaves the field. I'm just saying. I also doesn't
Speaker 1: have a contract though, Yeah, exactly, he does have a contract.
Speaker 1: He has a one year contract. No, not kind of,
Speaker 1: he's under club control. I understand he'll play for the Cowboy.
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, it's not Jake fromp But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying you, no, I'm just saying that even worse. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if you, if you don't look at
Speaker 1: your quarterback situation, then you've got your head in the sand. Miss.
Speaker 1: They absolutely should draft a guy. They should do it
Speaker 1: with one of the last Let's take again who I
Speaker 1: was really wrong about? Yeah, so what it didn't work out?
Speaker 1: It's it's low risk. What's what like? What's what are
Speaker 1: you gonna get from Jake? From what is realistically gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You will not get a lot of picks, Like, you
Speaker 1: won't get a lot of picks for him, or he
Speaker 1: won't throw a lot of picks. He won't throw a
Speaker 1: lot of picks. It's the best I got on from
Speaker 1: He will not throw a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: games the SEC. He'll be responsible with the football. You
Speaker 1: have a twenty six year old quarterback who has very
Speaker 1: rarely Basically the last month of last season was the
Speaker 1: only time he's ever shown wear and tearror. Jacksonville pick
Speaker 1: is in Dave, and then I want you and Brian
Speaker 1: to keep fighting because I love it. Here's the seventy
Speaker 1: third pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars select the Von Hamilton. Those tackle Ohio State. Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go, defensive linemen off the board that you
Speaker 1: could have seen the Cowboys being interested in Guy to
Speaker 1: play the one technique for you, a little bit of
Speaker 1: a run stuffer who you hope can offer a little
Speaker 1: bit more than that. He wouldn't have been exciting for
Speaker 1: me though at eighty two though, no Neile Okay, already
Speaker 1: get excited. Boy nose tackles. But Von Hamilton one of
Speaker 1: the most improved players this year. He was a priority
Speaker 1: free agent for scouts over the summer, but he turned
Speaker 1: it on as a senior kind of really things clicked
Speaker 1: for him. You saw him dominate Guy. It's different centers
Speaker 1: start the league throughout the big ten, and he did
Speaker 1: a nice job and turn himself into a third round pick.
Speaker 1: So the Von Hamilton going in front of guys like luck,
Speaker 1: he foted to Jordan Elliott Neville Gallimore. So a nice
Speaker 1: job by him to put himself in this position. Zach
Speaker 1: Bonn still on the board. That's act. Before we got
Speaker 1: derailed with the quarterback talk, I was actually I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that loves to say good luck finding
Speaker 1: pass rush help outside the top fifty like it just
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a great track record. But I'm sitting here,
Speaker 1: eighty two are close to eighty two getting there, and
Speaker 1: I feel very encouraged about what you might be able
Speaker 1: to get to help your pass rush. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Bond. But I would also throw in Terrell Lewis
Speaker 1: and Curtis Weaver. I think that there's I think there's
Speaker 1: a few guys maybe they could do it. Here's the
Speaker 1: Saints pick, the New Orleans Saints with the seventy fourth
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The New Orleans
Speaker 1: Saints like Zach Bond, but what is this? Sean Payton
Speaker 1: and Mickey Loomis, what are you guys doing? It's a
Speaker 1: terrible pick. The Saints did this last year with Eric McCoy.
Speaker 1: They did this last year with the Chauncey Gardner Johnson.
Speaker 1: The Saints really do a nice job with you know,
Speaker 1: they don't have a ton of draft picks, but when
Speaker 1: they see a player fall, they just seem to go
Speaker 1: get him or be in a position to get him.
Speaker 1: So this is a player that if we saw him
Speaker 1: go in the first round at number twenty four, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of us would have batten nigh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think it's something that the cow Boys are
Speaker 1: really famous for doing with guys like Ceedee Lamb. So
Speaker 1: let the guy fall to you and go ahead and
Speaker 1: take the good players. So we're gonna lose Zach Bond
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to reshuffle here, and yeah, that's
Speaker 1: messed up. And Kyle, I pretty much blame you. Thanks. Uh.
Speaker 1: You seem to be like the guy who was pulling
Speaker 1: for it the whole time I was pulling for I
Speaker 1: just didn't expect him to go all the way down. Well,
Speaker 1: Dave and Brian were fighting seventy five, you were texting
Speaker 1: people to take Zach Bonn, and that messed up. I
Speaker 1: was hitting up my sources in the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 1: to get it done. I know you were. Dave's got
Speaker 1: sources too. He probably gave you people to talk to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and I've got sources in the Saints. Well,
Speaker 1: I really like Zach Bond. I think, um, what's your
Speaker 1: play here now? What? Like? What is what's there for you? Now? Burgess,
Speaker 1: Terrell Burgess is there for you? A Keem Davis Gaither,
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver, Terrell Lewis, Cushion, Barry Jordan Elli picks ahead
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys the Raiders. They pick at eighty and
Speaker 1: eighty one. Tarrell Burgess seems like I'm like Mayok type
Speaker 1: of player. Hey, Dane, Hey, this is what we need
Speaker 1: to do. You need to look at realistic possibilities here.
Speaker 1: And I think those are two landmines sitting Grudon as
Speaker 1: we speak. Do it? Tell him you heard some really
Speaker 1: bad stuff? Actually do this? Yeah, called Grudon up. I
Speaker 1: bet Dane could too. He might have to back channel it.
Speaker 1: I bet Dane could find his way to Grudon if
Speaker 1: he needed to. Maybe not him, but maybe a general manager. Okay, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, Well, a position we haven't talked about.
Speaker 1: What about one of these tight ends. What about when
Speaker 1: he's tight? We know they like the UCLA kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know Dane really liked Troutman from Dayton was
Speaker 1: a guy and je Harrison Bryant has Harrison Bryan is
Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah under Bryan as well from Washington. A
Speaker 1: little bit of a different mindset with him though than
Speaker 1: maybe Blake Jarwin and Blake Bell. Well they can't well
Speaker 1: Blake Bell can block, but Darwin can't box, Drolin can't.
Speaker 1: So they'd be fine right along the same lines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can teach each other. It'd be great. Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: are on the clock at seventy five. Go ahead, Brian,
Speaker 1: Now I was just looking. Is there anything, is any
Speaker 1: reason why traded the seventy fifth pick the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: With the seventy fifth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions select Jonah Jackson guard Ohio State. Dane
Speaker 1: Bruler scouting report Jonah Jackson another phone booth blocker, a
Speaker 1: guy that's not going to give you a ton of
Speaker 1: range athletic ability, but if you get in his square,
Speaker 1: he is going to get his hands on you and
Speaker 1: dominate you. He was a big part of stabilizing that
Speaker 1: Ohio State offensive line this year. He was a grad
Speaker 1: transfer coming in from Rutgers and one left guard spot
Speaker 1: and was a big reason why JK. Dobbins and Justin
Speaker 1: Fields had so much success. So seeing him go US
Speaker 1: early here in the third round not not that big
Speaker 1: of a surprise. And now we have the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers on the clock. Their pick is in. We'll get
Speaker 1: that pick and we'll continue to work our way towards
Speaker 1: number eighty two for the Dallas Cowboys. You're listening to
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three
Speaker 1: the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. All right, here
Speaker 1: we are on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and we've still
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a ways to go, but
Speaker 1: we're starting to get into that range of starting to
Speaker 1: fill out exactly what that board is going to look
Speaker 1: like when it comes to the Cowboys picking at eighty two.
Speaker 1: CD lamb Treyvon Diggs both already selections for the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Brian. I know there's a lot of defensive
Speaker 1: players on the board here still, but we were just
Speaker 1: talking about some of the tight ends. Is there any
Speaker 1: chance you go offense and I'm not just talking about
Speaker 1: skill positions, but even interior offensive line here with maybe
Speaker 1: a cushion Berry on the board. Yeah, you know, Jeff
Speaker 1: and I've always in our show, it always has these
Speaker 1: discussions about cushion Berry Hennessy. I mean, I've got him
Speaker 1: in the same round, so I mean, but I have Hennessy.
Speaker 1: Their tags are touching just above him here. The Buccaneers
Speaker 1: are about to make their pick. Let me just get
Speaker 1: it for you here. But yeah, to finish up, I
Speaker 1: just think the athletic billy of Hennessy at Temples a
Speaker 1: little bit better than Kushion Berry, powerful guy Cushion Berry
Speaker 1: at LSU. But I just feel like they're gonna give
Speaker 1: their guy an opportunity. They drafted, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: Shawn Vaughan, the running back from Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt. Yes, because
Speaker 1: Sean Vaughan, running back Vanderbilt, just got selected by the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Dane. That's an intriguing pick from
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen in my mind, But twenty nineteen it was
Speaker 1: not a great year for him overall and all of Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1: There Kalija Lipscomb, the receiver, Jared Pinkney, the tight end.
Speaker 1: None of those guys really stood out. But Vaughan had
Speaker 1: a lot of fans coming into the year, and just
Speaker 1: a lot of them still stayed on that Vaughan vandwagon.
Speaker 1: Apparently the Bucks liked them. Surprise, he went here at
Speaker 1: seventy six over some of these other running backs. But
Speaker 1: he's a good player. He can run inside, run outside,
Speaker 1: He's got some production in the passing game. There's a
Speaker 1: lot to like about him, even though he didn't have
Speaker 1: the greatest year. Well, Dany, let me ask you this though, Moss.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, he was a guy that a
Speaker 1: lot of people had. The Utah Kid had hints. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the medicals what's killing him right now? I probably
Speaker 1: because he's banged up with the knee. I mean he
Speaker 1: was getting shots into his shoulder down the stretch. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think. I mean he's a better running back, we
Speaker 1: can agree there. But the medicals I think are probably
Speaker 1: the problem with him. Well, now running back seems to
Speaker 1: get a little bit thinner. I mean, Zach Boss, you know, Benjamin,
Speaker 1: These aren't necessarily guys that the Cowboys would be interested in.
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for teams to maybe take some
Speaker 1: of those guys ahead of you to to maybe sure
Speaker 1: up your defensive talent that's on the board that's starting
Speaker 1: to get a little bit thinner than we originally saw. Yeah,
Speaker 1: surprised by von this high though, guys, Yeah, I am too,
Speaker 1: especially because again I didn't have the on Moss and
Speaker 1: being with the you know, the shots and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So he's going to be a guy that you know
Speaker 1: you have in the third round there and then he
Speaker 1: didn't get taken and you're like, okay, what happened? And
Speaker 1: you ask people around and it's what is exactly what
Speaker 1: Dank just told you. Yeah? Those just eat you up,
Speaker 1: don't they? Brian? Oh heck yeah they do. Absolutely they do.
Speaker 1: Can't wait till about tomorrow at about one thirty when
Speaker 1: you've just got a blinking red guy who's been there
Speaker 1: for for a round and a half. We've done this
Speaker 1: draft together now a long time and it happens every year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're wondering why, Okay, what's wrong? It's always got a
Speaker 1: heart condition. But you know what, you're like, I love you.
Speaker 1: You're still so invested in it that you take it
Speaker 1: that personally, and that's what makes you the goat I
Speaker 1: think this is a good conversation to have because with
Speaker 1: pro days and with some of those medical rechecks being rescheduled, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we might not know about it. As media members, we
Speaker 1: don't have that inside that normally scouting departments would maybe
Speaker 1: allow us to see. Maybe even the scouting departments don't know,
Speaker 1: is what. That's a great point, Kyle, because they didn't
Speaker 1: have in the first weekend of April. They didn't have
Speaker 1: those medical rechecks, and a lot of those guys that
Speaker 1: had problems at the combine never got looked at again.
Speaker 1: And so you know, those those trainers and doctors did
Speaker 1: a good job, but probably you know, exchanging information what
Speaker 1: they had on these guys. But unless you went to
Speaker 1: the combine, you know, they don't they'll probably have all
Speaker 1: that all that to work up on you. Twenty twenty
Speaker 1: NFL Draft continued on one o five three The Fan
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. All Right, welcome back, Jeff Kavanaugh,
Speaker 1: Brian brought us, Dane Brugler, Kyle Yeoman's and Dave Hellman
Speaker 1: here with you. One oh five three The Fan and
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Denver Broncos are on the clock,
Speaker 1: and the pick is in we'll get the Bronchos pick
Speaker 1: shortly at seventy seven. The Cowboys pick at eighty two,
Speaker 1: and we are keeping a sharp eye on a small
Speaker 1: handful of names to see if certain guys can get
Speaker 1: down there for the Dallas Cowboys and if they'll take
Speaker 1: the guys that we keep talking about. But I keep
Speaker 1: going back to Dane's mock draft. This morning, I took
Speaker 1: the lazy route of just running one of the simulators
Speaker 1: and then making a pick, and both came up with
Speaker 1: the same names. He just worked a lot harder for it,
Speaker 1: and you could read his work. Terrell Burgess is the
Speaker 1: name that I'm keeping an eye on the Utah Safety.
Speaker 1: I think that would be a great fit for what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need and for picking a guy that's somewhere
Speaker 1: up there towards the top of your board. Terrell Burgess
Speaker 1: is the name I'm keeping an eye on, but he's
Speaker 1: not the only one. There's a handful of other names
Speaker 1: to be looking for at positions that could really help
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And do we need to start thinking about
Speaker 1: would they take a center we had we heard the
Speaker 1: name Ruiz, I haven't really heard the name Cushionberry with
Speaker 1: them I mean, I've got him graded here. But I've
Speaker 1: heard rumor of Hennessey. I have heard that that's a
Speaker 1: guy that they like. I don't know how him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never had Kyle. You're talking about drinking right that too,
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about you know, I that would Miller light.
Speaker 1: Of course. I wonder if they would go center or
Speaker 1: they do the tighten because we've heard a lot about Assisi,
Speaker 1: Devin ASIASI from But but there's people also that will
Speaker 1: tell you that there's Dane. Correct me if you've heard
Speaker 1: this too, that like the football. There's some football character
Speaker 1: issues with this guy. Have you heard anything? Yeah? Does
Speaker 1: he really love football? Kind of a thing? Right Well,
Speaker 1: he went to Michigan and then had transfer back. He
Speaker 1: suspended a few games early on for UCLA. So there
Speaker 1: are a few questions there, no doubt in terms of
Speaker 1: uh putting in the work, maximizing his ability. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: not the most physically impressive guy, both you know, body
Speaker 1: wise and UH testing wise. You feel like he has
Speaker 1: the skills to be a solid player. He might not
Speaker 1: be a great route runner, might not be a great blocker,
Speaker 1: but he's good in both are Let's go the Commissioners draft,
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos select Michael O. J. Moodia, defensive back Iowa.
Speaker 1: Oh that's actually a guy that I kind of liked
Speaker 1: out of Iowa. He's one of those guys that I think,
Speaker 1: even as just a you know, six one two hundred
Speaker 1: pound and look at the athleticism, I kind of viewed
Speaker 1: him as a little bit more of a developmental guy.
Speaker 1: But here we are, I guess in the seventies, and
Speaker 1: that might make a little bit of sense. Did you
Speaker 1: see him better than that day? And I saw a
Speaker 1: guy that I really liked the traits. I don't know
Speaker 1: that the player as somebody i'd want to throw onto
Speaker 1: my NFL field at the moment. It's a good way
Speaker 1: to sum him up, was Yeah, he's six one, two
Speaker 1: hundred pounds and when he ran the four four five
Speaker 1: at the combine, I think he kind of knew, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's going to go somewhere high. I gave him a
Speaker 1: fourth round grade because I tape was probably fifth round,
Speaker 1: and then after his testing. Okay, i'm u put him
Speaker 1: in the fourth because of the traits. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a guy who gets out leveraged a little too easily.
Speaker 1: You know you like the physicality, but when he got beat,
Speaker 1: he struggled to recover. He just doesn't have that twitch
Speaker 1: to him. But he's smart, he's physical. You like the length,
Speaker 1: So understand why the Broncos will go this direction at
Speaker 1: this point. And that'll take us to the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 1: at number seventy eight. As we're getting closer and closer
Speaker 1: to number eighty two for the Dallas Cowboys, the Atlanta Falcons,
Speaker 1: let me see if I can get their draft so
Speaker 1: far pulled up here, which is going to take me
Speaker 1: a second. Well, while you do that, I don't want
Speaker 1: Kyle to be the only bummer here, So all right,
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I just want to take you through my
Speaker 1: thought process because I liked to Rrel Burgess too. I
Speaker 1: think I in my final mock for Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: I think he was my pick at eighty two, so
Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled with it. But one, can you trust
Speaker 1: him to survive these next few picks? And two I
Speaker 1: just can't help but look at this list of available
Speaker 1: defensive linemen, and we know they went best player available
Speaker 1: last night, but we also know they don't really value
Speaker 1: safety that much. That's never been a thing that they do,
Speaker 1: and for all I know, they might just be sitting
Speaker 1: in there like, well, yeah, we have Haha and Woods
Speaker 1: and we can just sign guys next year. This is fine.
Speaker 1: And I look at I look at Neville Gallimore and
Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott sitting there. I look at Terrell Lewis sitting there,
Speaker 1: which is Curtis Weaver. I mean, I'm gonna throw in
Speaker 1: Zuniga as well, and that is a healthy list of
Speaker 1: names that are probably more talented than I expected to
Speaker 1: be here at eighty two. And so that's just where
Speaker 1: my radar is right now. But James lyn yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: throw him in there too. Well. I know people are
Speaker 1: talking about him playing more of as a three technique.
Speaker 1: I don't know where to play it. Here's a commissioner
Speaker 1: at the podium now or his beyond, to take care
Speaker 1: of our most vulnerable. You have our full support, and
Speaker 1: that with the seventy eighth pick in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Matt Hennessey Center Temple.
Speaker 1: There you go, now, Brian, I know you are a
Speaker 1: big fan of Hennessy. I believe he was your top
Speaker 1: center on the board. So you want to hit us
Speaker 1: with the Matt Hennessey scouting report that he center for
Speaker 1: the Falcon. I will do my very best here with
Speaker 1: Matt Hennessey here if I can get to it. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I'm technologically struggling at times. Uh yeah, this
Speaker 1: with Hennessy. He's an undersized guy, but he's got really
Speaker 1: good movement. He's not the strongest guy, you know, but
Speaker 1: he plays with really good foot quickness and positioning. He's
Speaker 1: kind of a getting away blocker, but he'll use his
Speaker 1: feet to stay in position with his man. His contact
Speaker 1: balance I thought was good. He's not going to drive
Speaker 1: anybody off the ball. If you look at what the
Speaker 1: Falcons do scheme wise, that outside zone stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's going to be very very capable
Speaker 1: for doing this. He'll slide across, he'll pick up rushers.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I don't know if he'll function really
Speaker 1: well with a heavy man on his nose. But the scoop,
Speaker 1: the reach, all those stuff, anything you have to do athletically,
Speaker 1: he can. He can handle that stuff. Well. He's another
Speaker 1: guy also that shined on film against lesser competition. He's
Speaker 1: got a brother that that played for Duke for a
Speaker 1: little bit, and he's got that family pedigree, but I
Speaker 1: I liked him a lot up at the top. I
Speaker 1: wrote an article a couple of weeks ago when Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick retired saying, here's five guys in the draft that
Speaker 1: could replace Travis Frederick, and I had him as one
Speaker 1: of the top guys out of those five that could
Speaker 1: potentially come in and do the job. So the fact
Speaker 1: that he's off the board here makes me kind of
Speaker 1: a little sad because maybe at least that option wasn't
Speaker 1: there at eighty two. Not that I would have really
Speaker 1: wanted him to go with an interior offensive lineman at
Speaker 1: eighty two, but at least he would have been on
Speaker 1: the board when that pick came around. So we're on
Speaker 1: the Jets at seventy nine so far in this draft,
Speaker 1: and their pick is in. We're just waiting for the commissioner.
Speaker 1: But so far in the draft, the Jets have gone
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton Louisville offensive tackle, Denzel Mims, bay lloroid receiver
Speaker 1: in the second, and Ashton Davis, the safety out of
Speaker 1: Cow in the third. This is their second third round pick,
Speaker 1: and they have a third third round pick later in
Speaker 1: the round. Needs for the Jets. They haven't taken a
Speaker 1: cornerback yet, they haven't taken a linebacker yet, they haven't
Speaker 1: taking an offensive wineman Yette. They have addressed the wide receiver,
Speaker 1: maybe a running back. They could go all over the
Speaker 1: place with the New York Jets. Here at pick number
Speaker 1: seventy nine, Dane, have you reset your big board recently
Speaker 1: or your your top one hundred players? Who are the
Speaker 1: top guys? Yeah, let's see. You have guy Lloyd Cushionberry
Speaker 1: I think is the top guy. Yep, he's the top available.
Speaker 1: Trell Lewis is next. Although Lewis it's all medical with him,
Speaker 1: some teams just removing them from the board because of
Speaker 1: his knee. That could be something that uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he could fall into Day three. That's very possible. Could
Speaker 1: be this year's Josh Sweat that type of player. So
Speaker 1: a Keem Davis Davis Gaither linebacker at of app State
Speaker 1: would be next. Then Adam Troutman the tight end out
Speaker 1: of Dayton, Curtis Weaver pass rusher at a Boise State,
Speaker 1: and then George Elliott defensive tackle out of Missouri. So
Speaker 1: still some big name players with talent that are available
Speaker 1: as we get within four picks of Dallas and some
Speaker 1: of those names. Yeah, it sounds like either they would
Speaker 1: be or we just hope they would be interested in.
Speaker 1: As you go through a few of those names, it
Speaker 1: seems like a fit for the Cowboys in terms of
Speaker 1: pass rushers, maybe the linebackers, although maybe that was just
Speaker 1: them doing the due diligence on the guys that we're
Speaker 1: going to go in the first round in case they
Speaker 1: moved around or they got stuck. Or do we think
Speaker 1: they're a team that seems like they enjoy picking mid
Speaker 1: round linebackers pretty much every year, Dave, What do we
Speaker 1: think or know about their interest in linebacker? Could have
Speaker 1: just been those top guys as a just in case,
Speaker 1: or do we pay attention to them all the way through? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a I mean me personally, I've always targeted Day
Speaker 1: three for a linebacker, but I would be lying if
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of specific names, either Kenneth Murray
Speaker 1: and Patrick Queen or the two that we really heard linked,
Speaker 1: you know for monement, Like I'm very intrigued by Marcus
Speaker 1: Bailey out of Purdue. I don't know if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are h Jacob Phillips out of LSU I think is
Speaker 1: a really underrated player. But I haven't heard any of
Speaker 1: them linked to the Cowboys. Um, so that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: be something to watch. I just I think it makes
Speaker 1: too much sense. Maybe with one of those fifth round picks,
Speaker 1: UH to draft some depth at that position. But like
Speaker 1: I said, I haven't heard any name beyond those first rounds.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that app State kid Davis Gaither
Speaker 1: can play. I mean you you watch him and you're
Speaker 1: and I know will probably won't take but that state
Speaker 1: should count. They play the big boys and give him trust.
Speaker 1: I'm saying every year, you don't want to schedule him
Speaker 1: early in the year because they'll take you down. They'll
Speaker 1: take a check, he'll beat you. Yeah, exactly, But I
Speaker 1: just watching him. Go Dave draft the New York Jets
Speaker 1: select Jabari Zuniga, defensive end Florida. All right, Brian, guy,
Speaker 1: you want to hit us with the scouting report on
Speaker 1: your guy before Dave attacks app State, hit him, reason,
Speaker 1: hit him real quick. I'm doing some paperwork, okay, Dane,
Speaker 1: go ahead and hit us with Jabari Zuniga. Zuniga's a
Speaker 1: face up pass rusher. He's not going to bend the
Speaker 1: edge or you know, win with just pure speed. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go right at you, use his length and try
Speaker 1: to bully you, try to overpower you. He was very
Speaker 1: productive as a junior, then missed a big chunk of
Speaker 1: the senior year due to injury, but still a very
Speaker 1: good player who I think tested a lot better. And
Speaker 1: we thought two hundred sixty five pounds and he ran
Speaker 1: in the mid four sixes, and so the testing numbers
Speaker 1: were there, the tape was there. Just a quality passed
Speaker 1: rusher reminds me a lot of you know, the Jets
Speaker 1: drafted Jordan Jenkins out of Georgia a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Similar type of player here at this point in the
Speaker 1: third round. Yeah, I mean, right now, they're showing the highlights.
Speaker 1: One of the games I watched and it was Miami,
Speaker 1: and he the game. He killed the game at the end,
Speaker 1: the pressure that he was able to make a couple
Speaker 1: of different times. I think Dane's got him absolutely right.
Speaker 1: The type of player. I did see a little bit
Speaker 1: more quickness with him. He's got some traits that are
Speaker 1: that will impress you, but you know, he could be
Speaker 1: really inconsistent at times. You know, there's quickness and then
Speaker 1: there's snaps where he's laid off the ball, and then
Speaker 1: like a time about the Miami game. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I was a lot higher on him because I did
Speaker 1: those traits flashed at me and I'm thinking, Okay, find
Speaker 1: a guy that's got some traits, find some guy that
Speaker 1: can maybe capture that edge. I probably had him way
Speaker 1: too high to where I got him, but I'm glad
Speaker 1: he finally got picked here by the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: I wonder I think he would have been in pretty
Speaker 1: serious consideration if he had lasted another couple picks. We'll
Speaker 1: never know now, but that's what I think. Vegas defensive
Speaker 1: line in general has him or has defensive line need
Speaker 1: at least at eighty two. So I think you could
Speaker 1: still throw maybe a Curtis Weaver or Jordan Elliott in there.
Speaker 1: Sure Vegas was going double pick here, and I hope
Speaker 1: when they announced the first one they just announced them
Speaker 1: both got two picks. Don't you know them both? No,
Speaker 1: they never do that. This isn't This isn't the first
Speaker 1: time we've had back to back picks. This is this
Speaker 1: is the two land mines that I mentioned before. Dane,
Speaker 1: just tell us, what are you doing Dane. Dane knows
Speaker 1: this morning. No, I just look when you think about
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock and what he's looking for, John Brud, what
Speaker 1: he's looking for. Troll Burgess is a player where they
Speaker 1: just the coaches that Utah won't shut up about him.
Speaker 1: Kyle Willingham, Kyle Winningham was a pro coach for a
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, the defensive coordinator Skali mean, they talk
Speaker 1: about him as you know, he's he's one of their
Speaker 1: sons and so big special teams guy, versatile. Uh So,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the picks in right now. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Namily joins me and offering our condolences as
Speaker 1: we join you tonight in honoring Rico's memory by making
Speaker 1: this next pick in his honor. With the eightieth pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders
Speaker 1: select Lynn Bowden hon Kentucky the other picking a quarterback here,
Speaker 1: how but they're listening to him as a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: That's interesting? Why huh? Yeah? Lynn Lynn Bowden junior, Holy cow,
Speaker 1: what a fun all purpose player. I need to give
Speaker 1: a shout out to my brother Seth, who went to
Speaker 1: actually went to high school with Lynn Bowden. Here in Warren,
Speaker 1: Ohio and told me about him five six years ago,
Speaker 1: how good this guy was, and so cut them on
Speaker 1: my radar, and man, he was right. This is a
Speaker 1: good player. Just is he gonna running back? Is he receiver?
Speaker 1: Just just get the ball in his hands. He's got
Speaker 1: some lower body power to him. He can make guys miss.
Speaker 1: A lot to like about Lynn Bowden and what he
Speaker 1: can bring to your offense. Well, and he's also a
Speaker 1: return threat. I mean one of those videos that kind
Speaker 1: of surfaced again this past week was a return that
Speaker 1: he had or it wasn't even a return. He was
Speaker 1: the punter on special teams because of course the guy
Speaker 1: plays every position out there, and then he took it
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight yards to the house after a
Speaker 1: fumbled snap because he just looked like a man playing
Speaker 1: amongst boys. So that continued into college. Even at the
Speaker 1: SEC level. He was all of Kentucky's offense. He's over
Speaker 1: the course over the course of the season, he is
Speaker 1: He's one of the most everybody in the Everybody in
Speaker 1: the SEC knew that he was limited as a passer
Speaker 1: and that they were just gonna run a run based offense,
Speaker 1: and nobody could do anything with him. Anyway, they averaged
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy eight rushing yards per game
Speaker 1: with a wide receiver playing quarterback. I actually I talked
Speaker 1: to Randall Cobb in the Cowboys locker room about Bowden
Speaker 1: during the season, and Cobb obviously went to Kentucky and
Speaker 1: he's like, he's the best Kentucky player in history. And
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, dude, you realize you went there too,
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, I said what I said? Wow,
Speaker 1: So that's pretty high praise. Yeah. I think the world
Speaker 1: of him. I can't wait to watch him in the NFL.
Speaker 1: All right, Vegas has made one of their picks, but I, oh,
Speaker 1: you well, we're talking about him. Holy cow. Hey, guys,
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Speaker 1: today at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Draft live. I
Speaker 1: was just excited about telling you guys that wanted you
Speaker 1: to know. Why did you let us know? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought that that was something you guys would want to know.
Speaker 1: I also wonder if you would want to hear what
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell says for their second pick to the Bigot.
Speaker 1: With the eighty first pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders select Brian Edwards, wide receiver South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Much like Screw could not help himself. Much like South
Speaker 1: Carolina's core receiver in the draft last year, get that
Speaker 1: dude the ball and see who he runs over. Brian
Speaker 1: Edwards is a tough, tough dude once he has the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. So they just remade their whole
Speaker 1: receiver corps in two days. Yes, they did three rugs,
Speaker 1: Lynn Bawd and Brian Edwards. That is fun. Who's the
Speaker 1: course of thretty good players? Derek carr Well Cowboys are
Speaker 1: on the clock at number car Gonna throw it down
Speaker 1: field of these guys or how's that going to work? Oh?
Speaker 1: They just know you had to run after. They just
Speaker 1: run after. Yeah, run us lant route over the middle.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. Officially at eighty
Speaker 1: two right now and the pick is in. By the way,
Speaker 1: it didn't take them long. But we'll look at the
Speaker 1: options until we actually get the announcement. My best guys
Speaker 1: Terrell Burgess, Utah safety, the Keem Davis s gather App
Speaker 1: State linebacker, Jordan Elliott, the d tackle out of Missouri,
Speaker 1: Terrell Lewis at Alabama, the pass rusher, and Curtis Weaver
Speaker 1: the pass rusher at Boise, along with Lloyd Cushionberry at center,
Speaker 1: maybe Cameron Danceler and Meek Robertson at corner. But those
Speaker 1: are the names that I've got. I think the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle here we didn't mention Gallimore was a guy to
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma kid. I love his effort. By the way,
Speaker 1: I may have a couple of times with the ball
Speaker 1: broke and he was able to go make that play.
Speaker 1: So where would you play? I mean, he's a three technique.
Speaker 1: I think Gallimore is a three technique to me. I
Speaker 1: just I saw him get pushed around on tape, which
Speaker 1: I didn't love. But you did see a lot of
Speaker 1: snaps where you're like, oh, there's there's some initial quickness
Speaker 1: here that maybe wasn't measured at the combine, but there's
Speaker 1: some initial quickness here to beat blockers early. How about
Speaker 1: the pairing between what could be Gallimore and then Gerald McCoy,
Speaker 1: two Oklahoma products on that defensive line. You throw Don
Speaker 1: Torri Poe in there as well, that would be fun
Speaker 1: to me. Honestly, I was still kind of looking at
Speaker 1: the secondary. But now that you've kind of brought up Gallimore,
Speaker 1: I like that idea. The fact that he's even here.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, I would prefer an edge rusher, but
Speaker 1: you know, those options kind of got taken away from you.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you would you be comfortable with Weaver here?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Me personally, I don't really like Weaver.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I went and spent some more time with
Speaker 1: him earlier this week, and I just didn't see anything
Speaker 1: that translated to what I think the Cowboy want to do.
Speaker 1: The NFL Draft to Dallas Cowboys select Neville Gallimore, defensive tackle, Oklahoma. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a guy we're talking about, Neville Gallimore. Guy. You
Speaker 1: see him with the initial quickness winning early in the
Speaker 1: in the plays, as a guy that's able to penetrate
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher and kind of shoot gaps in
Speaker 1: the run game. I had questions about his power and
Speaker 1: his ability to anchor. What do you guys see on
Speaker 1: the scouting report for Neville Gallimore. I saw a player
Speaker 1: who he would get to the backfield, but then he
Speaker 1: wouldn't finish. I think he has some uh some struggles
Speaker 1: to really uh turn make hard directions in small areas.
Speaker 1: Love the quickness, I just wish he was a better finisher.
Speaker 1: And you know, we don't like the harp too much
Speaker 1: on the production, but this is for a guy with
Speaker 1: these types of traits. I wanted to see more than
Speaker 1: eight and a half career sacks, you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't again, I trust the tape every single time, but
Speaker 1: production matters, and he just didn't have the backfield production.
Speaker 1: From a guy that's nicknamed the Canadian Bulldozer, you just
Speaker 1: expected a little bit more. But he is a very
Speaker 1: toolsy player. You love the effort, you love the quickness.
Speaker 1: So I think his best football is ahead of him,
Speaker 1: and so just hopefully this coaching staff can get it
Speaker 1: out of him. Yeah, I think Dane's got him dead
Speaker 1: on and the ability. I thought the pressive thing about
Speaker 1: him was his ability to get play with range to
Speaker 1: get to the outside, you know, chase the ball, all
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. But he's a guy that when
Speaker 1: you watch you play, he doesn't stop. Everything is fast,
Speaker 1: it's quick, keeps going. He tries to do his best.
Speaker 1: But Dane's right about the finish there too. Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: in the first round, Neville Gallimore now in the third round,
Speaker 1: and Trey Von Diggs in the second round for the
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Speaker 1: and we continue on the Cowboys Socials as well as
Speaker 1: the Cowboys website after the eighty second pick. Here in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Neville Gallamore, Oklahoma defensive tackle guys.
Speaker 1: Are we happy overall with this? I know with a fit, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense. This is another
Speaker 1: solid pick. Are they three for three? Though? I will
Speaker 1: say no, because for me, he wouldn't have been one
Speaker 1: of the top I haven't graded as a third round player,
Speaker 1: and they picked him in the third round, so that's fine.
Speaker 1: But one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I had
Speaker 1: seven or so guys ahead of him, but that's still
Speaker 1: towards the top of my board, So I won't kill
Speaker 1: him for it. But I some guys that I liked
Speaker 1: better than him. They like college players that wear crimson
Speaker 1: and white, at least in the course of this draft
Speaker 1: right now, because the two Oklahoma guys in an Alabama cornerback.
Speaker 1: So one of the things at least that I had
Speaker 1: written down on my film study of him is that
Speaker 1: he didn't have as much bend as I kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to. And you could see that at least in
Speaker 1: the combine drills where the change of the direction was
Speaker 1: a little bit stagnant. Is that something that you would
Speaker 1: be worried about here, because, like Brian was talking about,
Speaker 1: he's a sidelines the sideline kind of guy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's a whole lot of a worry as
Speaker 1: long as he's got some got some lateral and some
Speaker 1: athleticism too. I think Dane's kind it perfect though that
Speaker 1: the finish is the thing you worry about if you're
Speaker 1: if you're going to get in position and play with
Speaker 1: the range and things like that. I think he'd have
Speaker 1: been if if he was a better finisher he had
Speaker 1: have he'd be a second round guy. He wouldn't be
Speaker 1: in the third round. I think there's people that have
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. I know I have questions about him. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know that would be like to finish, you know,
Speaker 1: if you get in position, make it happens. There's times
Speaker 1: where guys get away from him and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a little bit disappointing for him.
Speaker 1: I did like his forty though. He ran a four
Speaker 1: seven nine. A big guy like that, you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: running a four seven nine of the combine six two
Speaker 1: three oh four. You could see that on his film
Speaker 1: as well. Man there was one play in in his
Speaker 1: Big twelve championship game against Baylor that stuck out to me.
Speaker 1: Dan Well that three combe though seven nine to seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's abysmal and so you do that speaks to the
Speaker 1: you know, lack of change of direction, skills, the inability
Speaker 1: to finish in tight areas. That's kind of what you
Speaker 1: worry about with them. And again, for a player with
Speaker 1: all that ability, you just you wanted to see better production.
Speaker 1: But I think context is important here. Oklahoma would line
Speaker 1: him up, head up over the center. Yeah, those tackle
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't asked to just let loose and
Speaker 1: win as a three technique in a lot of situations.
Speaker 1: So I think if he is in the right situation,
Speaker 1: that that is something that could really help him. And
Speaker 1: what does this say about Triston Hill and his how
Speaker 1: he fits with moving forward? Nobody here's got loyalty left
Speaker 1: to him, right, Yeah, I mean you got a new coach,
Speaker 1: you got a new coaching staff. They don't have any
Speaker 1: loyalty to the to the previous right guys, let me
Speaker 1: Dane before we bury Tristan Hill. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: this though, I because I am I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: dislike the pick at all. I'm you know, he's not
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players, but if fits a need,
Speaker 1: I think you know, it fits the draft slot. I
Speaker 1: don't dislike it by any means, but knowing what we know,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Nolan, it seems like they're going to
Speaker 1: be a little multiple. They could, you know, mess with
Speaker 1: their front a little bit. They've got Poe and McCoy
Speaker 1: who can play in both fronts, who also are going
Speaker 1: to start. So there's no starting spot for Neville Gallimore.
Speaker 1: What what does his rookie season look like? Is this
Speaker 1: just a rotational guy? Does he have the flex to
Speaker 1: play a variety of different positions? Can he play three
Speaker 1: and one? Could he maybe do some three four defensive
Speaker 1: end if they wanted him to? What do you think?
Speaker 1: I think you go to training camp and say you've
Speaker 1: got a chance to win a job here, let's see
Speaker 1: what you can do. And because I think he does
Speaker 1: have the ability uh to do that. He was a
Speaker 1: four year starter at Oklahoma. He's played a lot of football. Uh.
Speaker 1: Can he be the guy that steps up and wins
Speaker 1: a job? I think he can. He just needs to
Speaker 1: be more consistent. Uh. And the thing that really helps him,
Speaker 1: that will really go a long way with his coaching
Speaker 1: staff is the effort. Who Texas Tech game, Oh my gosh, effort, play,
Speaker 1: absolute effort, play after effort, play and he's affecting the
Speaker 1: game with his hustle, and that's something that the coaches
Speaker 1: will love. Is this the first Senior Bowl guy that
Speaker 1: we've seen for the Cowboys? Because I don't believe was
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I didn't think so. So this is
Speaker 1: the first Senior Bowl selection. It's actually that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have made. I love the way the draft brings this
Speaker 1: full circle because Neville Gallimore and Justin Matta Bouquet were
Speaker 1: We're probably the first two guys that we were really on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're exactly right, all the way back to the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl and low and behold. I mean Gallimore was one
Speaker 1: of our first names, and here he is on the
Speaker 1: team three months later. I'm pulling up my notes on
Speaker 1: what I actually had on him at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that whenever we get back here on
Speaker 1: the Fan. Then twenty twenty NFL Draft continued on one
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Speaker 1: one oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: It is Jeff Kavan O'Brien brought us Dane Brugler, Dave Hellman,
Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's the Cowboys most likely done for the night,
Speaker 1: but they have made their third round pick. It's Neville
Speaker 1: Gallimore out of Oklahoma. And I think, all in all,
Speaker 1: when you are looking at what they've done so far
Speaker 1: in this draft, if I ask Brian or Dane, have
Speaker 1: all three of their picks been ranked higher for you
Speaker 1: as a play then the number they were picked at.
Speaker 1: Does Nevil Gallimore fall into that? Absolutely? Neville Gallimore was
Speaker 1: seventy for me and they get him at what eighty one?
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, Ceedee Lamb was seven on
Speaker 1: my board, get him at seventeen. Trayvone Diggs was I
Speaker 1: believe like around thirty three. They get him at fifty one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, just my opinion my board, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys did really nice with their value here. Yeah, Canadian
Speaker 1: product by the way, on the team, along with LP
Speaker 1: and Tyrone Crawford. We got to pick in from the
Speaker 1: commissioner here for the Rams. Los Angeles Ram select Terrell Lewis,
Speaker 1: linebacker Alabama. Oh. It's one of the few guys that
Speaker 1: I think I would have preferred the pick to be. Like,
Speaker 1: I won't be hard on the Cowboys here because I
Speaker 1: think I had six guys that I liked more than
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore at that spot, and you know, that's pretty
Speaker 1: darn close to the top. So they've picked probably they
Speaker 1: might have picked their very top guy on the board
Speaker 1: multiple times in this draft, and they might have got
Speaker 1: close to it on the third one. I think I
Speaker 1: think Gallimore might have been the top grade on their board.
Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously you can differ, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that, but in their minds, I think they got
Speaker 1: their best guy, and that's you know, Burgess, I God,
Speaker 1: I want the Cowboys to draft a safety so bad.
Speaker 1: I think I think everybody knows that about me. But
Speaker 1: I can't kill them for not drafting a guy with
Speaker 1: chronic injury issues. I think that's that's the most terrifying
Speaker 1: kind of player is and that's not his fault. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to knock Terrell Lewis, but that stuff scares
Speaker 1: the crap out of me, and I feel more comfortable
Speaker 1: with the sure thing in terms of availability. Nine times
Speaker 1: out of ten. Well, now you've got corner taken care of,
Speaker 1: you've got wide receiver, and you've got interior defensive line.
Speaker 1: That leaves edge in safety is really the pressing needs
Speaker 1: going into Day three. I think you've done yourself a favor,
Speaker 1: even with even with the first pick being Cede Lamb.
Speaker 1: I know Cede Lamb was an exciting pick, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily that that pressing that you have. Now you
Speaker 1: you move into Day three and you can still maybe
Speaker 1: go get a linebacker, you can still grab a safety.
Speaker 1: You can look at edge rusher and still feel good
Speaker 1: about what you've done in the draft. Oh, I think
Speaker 1: this this draft is shaping up really well. I mean
Speaker 1: there's no like this is. This is looking really good.
Speaker 1: Even if you don't love the Gallimore pick, I mean, Kavanaugh,
Speaker 1: even you agree with that, right, No, no, no, I do,
Speaker 1: And I'd like, I don't even want to take it.
Speaker 1: Oh No, you had six guys in front of him. Like,
Speaker 1: that's not a pick that I'm going to complain about.
Speaker 1: You've got a defensive tackle that's got the initial quickness,
Speaker 1: that has the traits to rush the quarterback. I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at that pick at all. It's just the first
Speaker 1: pick they've made where they literally didn't pick the top guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: according to me, or Diggs was very very very close
Speaker 1: so I think it's it's the first time that I
Speaker 1: have more than three guys that I would have taken
Speaker 1: over who they took. But to be that close, I
Speaker 1: love to pick. Here's the cult selection, cold select Julian
Speaker 1: Blackman defensive back Burgess not even the first Utah safety
Speaker 1: off the board, how about that? But I love Julian Blackman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. That USC tape. I can't get
Speaker 1: that out of my mind. Michael Pittman just just abusing
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman, but uh surprised. I mean, he's not a
Speaker 1: better player than Troll Burgess in my opinion. Read on
Speaker 1: that real quick before we I mean, before we do that.
Speaker 1: I mean just thinking about this in the big picture,
Speaker 1: because we assume the Cowboys are done tonight. Um I get.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm trying to nitpick, not going edge
Speaker 1: rusher here at eighty two, by and large probably means
Speaker 1: you're not finding, you know, a difference maker in for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, at least on the edge. So I mean
Speaker 1: you're you're you're probably you know, you're hoping Aldon Smith
Speaker 1: and Randy Gregory and Tyrone Crawford can all be that
Speaker 1: for you and that's definitely kind of scary. But with
Speaker 1: what they've gotten, I can't complain about it. Um, if
Speaker 1: Gallimore is the pick you feel the least good about,
Speaker 1: I got nothing bad to say, especially you know he's
Speaker 1: got Dontari Poe and Gerald McCoy a fellow Oklahoma sooner
Speaker 1: to learn from. I don't think there's any reason to
Speaker 1: feel bad about that at all. I mean, there's still
Speaker 1: a defensive end out there in free agency. You're gonna
Speaker 1: spend a little bit of money, Well yeah, but is
Speaker 1: that really the Cowboys way? You get some money laying around,
Speaker 1: a couple bucks laying around. Devion Clowney doesn't have a
Speaker 1: home right now. I will reinstitute the McDonald's bet with
Speaker 1: you about that. No, bet, I just thirty two teams.
Speaker 1: The odds are in your favor. I can't make that bet. Okay,
Speaker 1: wouldn't be right. But no, I think I think around
Speaker 1: the room, everybody's pretty darn happy with what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have gone. We have done through two days here, you're
Speaker 1: a better football team than you were yesterday by far.
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of what they wanted to
Speaker 1: give themselves an opportunity to do. Whenever it in terms
Speaker 1: of free agency. Yes, you just picked up the Ville Gallimore,
Speaker 1: but you picked up guys like Gerald McCoy and Dontari
Speaker 1: Poe that if you didn't want to go Gallimore there
Speaker 1: you'd be fine. Same thing, Edge Rusher. I think it
Speaker 1: gives him an option and he gives him a safety
Speaker 1: net to go best player available at least on their
Speaker 1: board and not have any worries about it. And like
Speaker 1: what Dave was saying, And now it's time to go hunting.
Speaker 1: It's time to day three. It's time to find guys
Speaker 1: that you like the traits on that you hope something
Speaker 1: can work out for, or see if somebody falls into
Speaker 1: your lap, because you know, when you're playing the odds
Speaker 1: your day three guys, some of them aren't gonna make
Speaker 1: the team, some of them are never gonna make an Impactum,
Speaker 1: but now it's time to go hunting. Let me do
Speaker 1: my since he's not talking right now, let me do
Speaker 1: my broadest impressions. The day of the Scouts, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go hunting it. I'm gonna go hunting for some for
Speaker 1: some players. I'm glad you learned after all these years, Dave.
Speaker 1: The Day of the Scouts, Buffalo Bills pick picks in Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go. You talk Ah, Zach Moss running back
Speaker 1: Utah is going to the Buffalo Bills. I love Zach Moss.
Speaker 1: He's hard to tackle, running back to break tackles. They're
Speaker 1: my friend. You look at that Buffalo backfield. Devin's singletary
Speaker 1: Zach Mah. That's a that's a pretty nice duo back
Speaker 1: there for Josh Allen at quarterback. Well, they got three
Speaker 1: running backs. They got Josh Allen back there. So that's nice.
Speaker 1: That's not even really a joke. It's the best the
Speaker 1: best thing he has, uh. That team. That team's fun.
Speaker 1: You know, you build a good defense, you'd have a
Speaker 1: quarterback whose legs are a threat, and now you're backing
Speaker 1: him up with a couple of different running backs. It's
Speaker 1: a little bit old school, um and that I just
Speaker 1: I like Zach Moss. I think he's a fun runner
Speaker 1: to watch. I think you got a really mean business
Speaker 1: if you're going to tackle him. And I think that
Speaker 1: that bodes well to transition from college to the NFL
Speaker 1: when you're somebody that people are going to shy away
Speaker 1: from wanting to hit because you're tough to bring down.
Speaker 1: He's not even that big. You look at him, you're,
Speaker 1: I guess not a big guy. I just remember we
Speaker 1: started the process even last year. He was like running
Speaker 1: back number one on everybody, and then he stayed in, right,
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't, he didn't come out, and everyone's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch this guy. You gotta watch him, you
Speaker 1: gotta watch him. And tough, and he is and he
Speaker 1: is really tough. I mean you catch the ball. I
Speaker 1: mean there's sometimes when you watch him on tape as
Speaker 1: pass protector, he's got some of those those all around
Speaker 1: back trades to him with that ability to step up
Speaker 1: and hit people. Physical guy well, and kind of going
Speaker 1: back to what Kavanaugh was saying about his size, he's
Speaker 1: five nine and a half, but he's still two hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty three pounds, so he's wide enough to be
Speaker 1: able to pack an impact on in the middle of
Speaker 1: runs up the middle, and I think he's somebody that
Speaker 1: you could just kind of run up the gut and
Speaker 1: be okay. With the draft rolls on. The Patriots are
Speaker 1: on the clock at number eighty seven. You've been listening
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have made their three picks in the first
Speaker 1: three rounds of the draft, seemingly done for the day
Speaker 1: unless they want to get crazy here at the back
Speaker 1: half of the third round. We're almost getting too comp
Speaker 1: pick time, about ten picks away from at least that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. You've got the Patriots, the Saints, the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and the Browns coming up next. As the Patriots are
Speaker 1: currently on the clock here, guys, how are we kind
Speaker 1: of shaping out as we go back into this this
Speaker 1: latter part of the third round. Well, trying to reset
Speaker 1: the draft board here. You know, we had a few
Speaker 1: key players coming off Chushian, Barry Lewis, Davis Gaithers still around,
Speaker 1: Adam Outman from Dayton to tight end, Curtis Weaver Boise State,
Speaker 1: George Elliott Missouri, Malik Harrison out of Ohio State. And
Speaker 1: then we still have the quarterbacks, you know, Jake from
Speaker 1: Jacob Eason. Surprise we haven't heard either of those two
Speaker 1: names come off the board. I mean, they're issues with
Speaker 1: both these players said, don't get me wrong, but it's
Speaker 1: still surprised that we haven't seen one of these teams
Speaker 1: maybe roll the dice on one of them. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a little surprised by that too, because normally you would
Speaker 1: see more quarterbacks go. We've seen the top four in
Speaker 1: the first round and then one since then. We saw
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts to Philadelphia in the second and since then
Speaker 1: it's been all quiet on the quarterback front, while running
Speaker 1: backs have kind of been going a little bit crazy.
Speaker 1: But I guess you can maybe get the sense from
Speaker 1: some of the teams and the way they've handled their offseason.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's still guys like Jamis Winston and Cam
Speaker 1: Newton out on the free agent market. You think that
Speaker 1: has a little bit of an impact on why teams
Speaker 1: or maybe reluctant to take a quarterback here. I think
Speaker 1: not only that, but you think about the current set
Speaker 1: up of what we think the fall is gonna look like.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have a training camp, are we gonna
Speaker 1: have you know, these opportunities for these young quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: get acclimated with the playbook and his new teammates and everything,
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be tough for some of these young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to really, uh, you know, get in there and
Speaker 1: carve out a role. So I think when you look
Speaker 1: at both these guys, they both have something about them
Speaker 1: that you really worry about their their transition. With Easton,
Speaker 1: it's the heavy feet, his ability to navigate pressure. With
Speaker 1: from it's he's very scheme specific. So it's interesting that
Speaker 1: you know, are they going to follow to day three?
Speaker 1: We have what twenty picks left or so, so it
Speaker 1: should be interesting. Now and the Patriots selection has been
Speaker 1: made and announced. Anthony Jennings often or outside linebacker rather
Speaker 1: out of Alabama is what New England goes with at
Speaker 1: pick eighty seven. Dane, what's your scouting report on him?
Speaker 1: This is a guy who going into twenty nineteen I
Speaker 1: think was tabbed. Is maybe one of the guys to
Speaker 1: watch as a first or second round recruit. Yeah. With Jennings,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's tough to get overly excited about
Speaker 1: what he offers because I don't know, average size, six
Speaker 1: two two fifty six. He's not very sudden as a
Speaker 1: pass rusher, but he led Alabama and tackles for loss
Speaker 1: and sacks. You like a lot of what he brings from,
Speaker 1: you know, a stopping the run play recognition standpoint. But
Speaker 1: I just don't I think he's a little bit limited
Speaker 1: if you're expecting him to just rush off the edge.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be someone that it's and it's
Speaker 1: interesting that they drafted him along with Josh Uch kind
Speaker 1: of similar positions but very different types of players. Uch
Speaker 1: is going to bring that speed off the edge and
Speaker 1: you little bit of a liability against the run, where
Speaker 1: Jennings a little bit the opposite. So if you combine
Speaker 1: these two players, you might have a really good pass
Speaker 1: rusher you could stay on the field at all, all
Speaker 1: three downs. But it's interesting that they would bring both
Speaker 1: these guys in on day two. Maybe they're gonna do
Speaker 1: an experiment like that. Why not find a way to
Speaker 1: combine them. It's like the horse Lake theory. That's easy.
Speaker 1: That's a day three and three. Yeah, saved that one
Speaker 1: for late in the day. Yeah. Who who likes Saban?
Speaker 1: Guys more New England or Baltimore. Oh, I think that
Speaker 1: and maybe even clude the Vegas Raiders in this too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike Mayock is always going to He's got
Speaker 1: a great relationship with three sets of coaches I think
Speaker 1: at Clemson, Alabama, and Ohio State. So I mean that's
Speaker 1: kind of Mike mac when he goes to When he
Speaker 1: used to go to Alabama Pro Day, he was like king,
Speaker 1: you know, he was like walking around like he was
Speaker 1: a king. So uh, yeah, I think that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's teams that they all bowed down to. I mean, Saban,
Speaker 1: he's got all these players, he recruits them, but he
Speaker 1: just beats them all up, you know. He mean he does,
Speaker 1: he uses them up. They play a lot, and they
Speaker 1: play extra games every year. They have hard practices, you know,
Speaker 1: with him. So yeah, it's it's what you're gonna You're
Speaker 1: gonna love the players because they play in those games
Speaker 1: and they're good players, but you get them, they're pretty
Speaker 1: they're pretty beat up and by the time you get them,
Speaker 1: and he's the second Alabama player to go off the
Speaker 1: board in the last four picks, actually splitting that with
Speaker 1: Utah by the way, in Alabama Edge Rusher and Roll Lewis,
Speaker 1: and then you've got Julian Blackman from Utah, Zach Moss
Speaker 1: from Utah, and then Jennings from Alabama. Now with the
Speaker 1: Saints and Vikings coming up here in the next couple
Speaker 1: of moments, what's what are the boards kind of starting
Speaker 1: to look like Dane as we do get into we're
Speaker 1: getting close to pick ninety here, So I mentioned the
Speaker 1: compensatory picks coming up here in a little bit. The
Speaker 1: Patriots had plenty of those, but at least the board
Speaker 1: for me looks pretty heavy on the defensive line, with
Speaker 1: still Curtis Weaver and even Jordan Elliott in that mix
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, the top guy for me is a
Speaker 1: Keem Davis Gaither talking about defender who can be a playmaker,
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of that Isaiah Simmons light. You know, tall, long, athletic,
Speaker 1: he can do a lot of different things for you.
Speaker 1: Surprised he's still around here at this late stage of
Speaker 1: the third round. Uh. And but I'm with you with
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver too. Um. You know, this guy was so
Speaker 1: productive at Boise State. There's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: don't like about him. He doesn't have an ideal body,
Speaker 1: doesn't have uh, you know, necessarily there's a reason he
Speaker 1: didn't run the forty yard dash at the combine. Um.
Speaker 1: But the production is undeniable. Now he beat up on
Speaker 1: some weaker competition. But still the way he can use
Speaker 1: his hands is something that I think at that position.
Speaker 1: Surprised that we haven't seen a team take a flyer
Speaker 1: on him yet. Yeah, I've seen a flyer at all there, Brian. No,
Speaker 1: I'm with Dane about the player. I'm I just keep
Speaker 1: looking at that Davis Gaither and yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. But you know, if I'm looking for
Speaker 1: in the third round, guys that can run, guys that
Speaker 1: can finish, you know, I mean that he's that. He's
Speaker 1: that guy. For me. I look at him and I
Speaker 1: just I'm like, Okay, somebody's gonna take this guy. You know,
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that the Cowboys were gonna
Speaker 1: look at him, you know, I mean I had him
Speaker 1: in that round with with Gallum More and all that.
Speaker 1: We need to figure out what the deal with Burgess too.
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, you know that keeps falling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a phone call for Brian brought us
Speaker 1: on the way home, you know, And I know Dane
Speaker 1: can do the same thing, you know, but we can.
Speaker 1: You know, you just wonder a few of those phone
Speaker 1: calls from Brian brought us. Yeah, no, but you but
Speaker 1: you you gotta, you gotta figure out. Okay, why is
Speaker 1: this guy? He was clearly if you look at the tape,
Speaker 1: his ability to do a lot of different things to
Speaker 1: cover to play in the slot. I mean, he had
Speaker 1: to find him out there, but he made He's a
Speaker 1: productive player. I just don't understand why. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: teams are just kind of shying away from guys like this. Now,
Speaker 1: I do want to make a correction. I said that
Speaker 1: the Saints were on the clocks that Cleveland Browns. Yeah, Cleveland.
Speaker 1: This is a direct deal from whether they had earlier
Speaker 1: in the second round, whenever they swapped picks there, So
Speaker 1: the Browns are actually on the clock because we see
Speaker 1: maybe a corner here potentially go in the next couple
Speaker 1: of moments, because I know they still need cornerback help.
Speaker 1: Uh maybe uh, I don't know, maybe defensive line here.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, defensive tackle. They need defensive end definitely. So
Speaker 1: and that we always have, you know, with a new
Speaker 1: front office, a new head coach, you have a group
Speaker 1: of guys that want their guys, and so I really
Speaker 1: don't think, you know, besides quarterback and running back, I
Speaker 1: think every other position's pretty much in play at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. It's much like the Dolphins, where I don't
Speaker 1: think they're in as bad of a spot as the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: But they've already taken an offensive tackle in Jedrick Will's
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit went in the second round at pick forty four,
Speaker 1: and now they're picking here in the third, so they've
Speaker 1: had a little bit of time to wait here for
Speaker 1: this pick. But they could really address a couple of
Speaker 1: issues where when it comes to the defense, and then
Speaker 1: also maybe adding a wide receiver if you really wanted to,
Speaker 1: depending on what the what the deal is with Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham junior. Yeah, as we wait for this pick, guys,
Speaker 1: when does that run for the tight ends going to start? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I've got all these tight ends kind of
Speaker 1: lumped together. And I know with ASSISI I mentioned him. Okay,
Speaker 1: Troutman is a Dane guy, the law firm of Brian
Speaker 1: and Bryant. You know, Albert Oh from Missouri. I mean
Speaker 1: is Pinkney when we got the commissioner's got to pick
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Speaker 1: keep it coming. Tonight, with the eighty eighth pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jordan Elliott,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Yeah, Missouri, that's a good pick. That's a
Speaker 1: good pick. That Yeah, as long as you are comfortable
Speaker 1: with the character, you're comfortable with the person. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: you definitely liked the player. At this point in the draft,
Speaker 1: a guy who started at Texas transferred Missouri. And I
Speaker 1: tell you there are times on his tape where you
Speaker 1: see a first round player. You see a guy that
Speaker 1: can dominate the point of attack. He can slip through gas. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about Jordan Elliott as a
Speaker 1: as an ascending player, a guy who's getting better and
Speaker 1: better and still very young. So that was the thing
Speaker 1: with him. He plays young, he acts young, but the
Speaker 1: talent is not a question with this player. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: this is where I would have taken him over Gallimore.
Speaker 1: This is where you know, you know me, I'm the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals of our staff. Yep, and I really don't
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, everything Dane said is absolutely right
Speaker 1: about maturity and things like that. The tape is too
Speaker 1: good for me. I'm in the third round here, I'm
Speaker 1: the big, massive tackle that gets up the field, stops people.
Speaker 1: It's hard to move. Yeah, no, no, no, Brian's contradicting
Speaker 1: himself and I'm here to hold him to task. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do because I love Jordan Elli. I
Speaker 1: loved his tape like I really early and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy's getting in the backfield every other snap from
Speaker 1: like five different positions. He's a ton of fun. But
Speaker 1: Brian brought us will tell you that the criminal run
Speaker 1: round is the fourth round. Appreciate. I mean, he might
Speaker 1: not be a criminal, but if there are character and
Speaker 1: non tape concerns about a guy, yeah, then eighty two
Speaker 1: is too high for me to take that. But Brian
Speaker 1: bringing that name, bringing this name up after the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have taken Gallmore makes me look back at my board
Speaker 1: and be like, oh wow, I don't think I even
Speaker 1: mentioned him when Gallamore was taken as one of the
Speaker 1: guys I had ahead of him, and I had him
Speaker 1: a full round ahead of him, So I gotta be
Speaker 1: honest about that. Vic. Who's gonna pick right now? King
Speaker 1: sle Cameron Danceler defensive back? The good pick there, Mike Ziver.
Speaker 1: Solid corner that they've they've selected because they took Jeff
Speaker 1: Gladney with thirty one, so they're double dipping in corner already.
Speaker 1: I like the need they need corner? Oh they cos
Speaker 1: I'm not going to point fingers in anybody here. I'm not,
Speaker 1: And because I just feel like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that carried this guy down the board because of
Speaker 1: of the of the forty and I guarantee something happened
Speaker 1: to him at the combine where he didn't have a
Speaker 1: good day, and I could have gone to Missisippi State.
Speaker 1: I said it a bunch. I could have gotten faster,
Speaker 1: not at thirty eight yards, and I wouldn't have got
Speaker 1: him at four three. I would have got him at
Speaker 1: four or five, two or something like that, maybe or
Speaker 1: four or five. But I don't think he plays like
Speaker 1: a four to six guy. I'm just watching him play
Speaker 1: against a quality competition weekend week out in the SEC,
Speaker 1: and the guy covers, the guy has ability to make plays, intercepts,
Speaker 1: creates turnovers, things like that. I hope he has a
Speaker 1: really nice career. He went to the perfect coach, by
Speaker 1: the way, Mike Zimmer. Mike Zimmer will, Mike Zimmer will
Speaker 1: get him to play to his best level. If he's
Speaker 1: a four or five guy, he'll outplay this draft slot
Speaker 1: for sure. He will. This is this is this he will,
Speaker 1: He's he's on tape. He is better than that draft slot.
Speaker 1: But I like, I just can't take this place where
Speaker 1: everything's even and I can trust the times and throw
Speaker 1: out one it says it's going to be really tough
Speaker 1: for him to be a good NFL player. Can't do it.
Speaker 1: I just I mean they picked him in the round
Speaker 1: where I have him, got him in the third round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that the tape is just too good for me and
Speaker 1: I again, Mike Zimmer will figure out a way to
Speaker 1: use him and and use him the right way. This
Speaker 1: is much, this is this is getting. This could be
Speaker 1: the Richard Sherman. This could be a Richard Sherman Sherman
Speaker 1: four five. Yeah, well this guy ran four six yep,
Speaker 1: and he could and I could have got him in
Speaker 1: four five. My biggest issue with with Danceler wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: his speed. It was just his ability to turn and
Speaker 1: find the football that I thought that was something that
Speaker 1: he did and inconsistently, and when he did he would
Speaker 1: make contact. And uh, it's it's a player who was
Speaker 1: a quarterback in high school. He didn't really play corner
Speaker 1: until he got to Mississippi Mississippi State, and so he's
Speaker 1: still learning. But I think he has upside because he's
Speaker 1: a good athlete. Uh he's tall, little leaner than you want.
Speaker 1: You worry about the body armor holding up and run support.
Speaker 1: But I thought he was a better, better play than here.
Speaker 1: Around the ninetieth pick, it's Jonathan Greenard at ninety to
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. The Florida pass rusher. That is who
Speaker 1: you've got going there at number ninety, that's the Houston Texans, right, Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: to finish off and pick and they're both defensive tackles
Speaker 1: excuse me, defensive lineman. I mean the gs with the
Speaker 1: amount of trades they've been making. Yeah, they just don't
Speaker 1: have that many picks. No, but I just I mean
Speaker 1: to finish off the thought we were having about Elliott
Speaker 1: and Gallimore. And you know, it's it's difficult and tricky
Speaker 1: talking about off the field stuff because you don't know
Speaker 1: the full picture unless you're really part of this process. Sure,
Speaker 1: I can't fault the Cowboys for taking the surer guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they don't, you know, if you don't
Speaker 1: feel good about Elliott off the field, eighty two is
Speaker 1: still too high for me. I mean, if you're talking
Speaker 1: day three, it makes a lot more sense. But I'm
Speaker 1: not going to ding them for taking the guy that
Speaker 1: they feel more comfortable with, which makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: I think overall, Well, I mean, I I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just that's fair. I thought their tape was around difference.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Elliot's tape was considerably better. But
Speaker 1: I will say, but you're right about what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I don't there's things that I don't know about them.
Speaker 1: I don't know what people mean when they say off
Speaker 1: the field, and unless there's something documented on it, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. So if you want to
Speaker 1: give me an effort player, I'll take I'll take the
Speaker 1: Lynch kid from Baylor. You know. If you want to
Speaker 1: give me a guy that could play in play tackle,
Speaker 1: I'll take that guy. You know, But I mean Gallimore,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean where they I had him on
Speaker 1: that spot. I just thought that Elliott was a better player.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you said, put all those guys together,
Speaker 1: who do you have Elliott Gallimore, say Lynch in that round?
Speaker 1: I would have it Elliott Gallimore Lynch. I mean, like
Speaker 1: I say, I'm kind of looking at it as like
Speaker 1: that Gallimore Lynch. It really was a toss up for me.
Speaker 1: On the Raiders, did you a favor before year pick
Speaker 1: at eighty two with back to back wide receivers. They're
Speaker 1: up again for the fifth time today. Do you think
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna take another wide receiver? Here? Guys,
Speaker 1: the fourth of the draft. Oh, Green can't help him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Green can't help himself. They're all there. I mean they're
Speaker 1: a great wide receiver class and deep one at that. Well,
Speaker 1: they got the this was like a New England pick,
Speaker 1: so maybe this was a pick. Yeah, yeah, New England
Speaker 1: traded in. Sorry I did I should have yelled that out.
Speaker 1: They traded up to ninety one. It's like, ah, Devin Asias.
Speaker 1: How about that the Raiders took Devin asi Assi, the
Speaker 1: tight end out of UCLA. It means the Cowboys cannot
Speaker 1: take him in the fourth round if I've got the
Speaker 1: rules of the draft right, correct, that's correct, Jeffrey. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a fake, that's a fake. Pro Yeah they did, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots they oh, okay that Assisi was
Speaker 1: the Patriots pick. Okay, ye. The thing. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: team that needed a lot of tight end help, and
Speaker 1: I think Assisi is a fun prospect. I think this
Speaker 1: is where he belongs. I think that that's that's good.
Speaker 1: That's a team that needed one and they probably found
Speaker 1: a future starter here in the end of the third round. Dan,
Speaker 1: did you did you hear it all about football character
Speaker 1: concerns like how hard he would work, how hard he
Speaker 1: wouldn't work that kind of Did you hear anything about
Speaker 1: this player that way? There were there were talks about that,
Speaker 1: about him reaching his full potential, and you know he
Speaker 1: was suspended at one point, and uh, you know the
Speaker 1: he liked to enjoy the college experience, that type of thing. Um,
Speaker 1: so you do worry about that a lot. He was
Speaker 1: a California kid and how he's going all the way
Speaker 1: out to New England. How's that going to play? But
Speaker 1: second tight end off the board, right, Yeah, commit was
Speaker 1: the first one. Yeah, a little surprising to see. I
Speaker 1: mean I thought ASSISI was a top five tight end
Speaker 1: in this draft. I don't necessarily think I would have
Speaker 1: guessed he would have been the second tight end drafted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was tight ends though. Oh I'll tell you what though,
Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys did a ton of work on him,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was a guy the video
Speaker 1: conferencing maybe a thirty visit thing. If if that did that,
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of there were people
Speaker 1: talking about this guy. Him and and Terrell. Those guys were,
Speaker 1: you know, where the guys that did a lot a
Speaker 1: lot of work. Chase On was another one of those
Speaker 1: guys that did, they did a lot of work on
Speaker 1: and so you know, I knew the Cowboys maybe would
Speaker 1: would conserve. I was asking you, guys, there is this
Speaker 1: the run for the tight ends? Now? Is this you know,
Speaker 1: are people gonna say, Okay, we gotta go ahead and
Speaker 1: start grabbing him now, or is it this thing gonna
Speaker 1: stretch a little bit further down the board? I could
Speaker 1: see this being a tight end run here late in
Speaker 1: the third. Let's go down the list of teams that
Speaker 1: could use a tight end. Titans, yeah, I think they could. Packers,
Speaker 1: Packers absolutely, yeah, Broncos, Chiefs don't need a tight end.
Speaker 1: The Browns, yeah. See that's what I'm saying. I just
Speaker 1: these guys. It's the one part of my board I'm
Speaker 1: looking at. I've got everything kind of color coded. It's
Speaker 1: the one position where I have those guys like Bill
Speaker 1: pars Hills used to say, snacked in there like club sandwiches,
Speaker 1: you know, And so I'm just thinking, Okay, at some
Speaker 1: point somebody is going to go out. But I've got
Speaker 1: some cornerbacks too, Holmes kid from UCLA, I got Robertson
Speaker 1: from Louisiana Tech. But those are those are two small guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are two like tiny guys, you know, eat peanuts
Speaker 1: off the top of their heads kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're the I mean you're my Cleveland Browns guy. I
Speaker 1: just I just look at you as an extension of
Speaker 1: the Browns front office. Naturally. Um, what what do you
Speaker 1: what can I want? What do you want for David
Speaker 1: and jokut Um? I'm trying to get rid of them,
Speaker 1: so I know you are what do you take much?
Speaker 1: I mean, can I offer you looking for a soft
Speaker 1: tight end you can't catch? Oh? Wow wow wow wow
Speaker 1: wow wow? Uh second five? If I can get your third.
Speaker 1: But now that I told you how I really feel
Speaker 1: about him, you cannot have my You can't have my
Speaker 1: third because his name is going back and forth. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, can I can I pry him away from you?
Speaker 1: For pick one sixty four? I think if no? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty late. I got to be able to
Speaker 1: get a better offer than that. I'm not giving. Kay,
Speaker 1: Or do you try to? I mean this, how about Tampa?
Speaker 1: Do you go to Tampa and try and get oj Howard?
Speaker 1: I mean, are they are? They? Are? They caught in? Okay,
Speaker 1: we had to have a second round you guys not
Speaker 1: letting my god drow and get a shine on. No,
Speaker 1: I just got paid. If we're talking, if we're talking
Speaker 1: about tight end, he's got two backups. Okay, So I actually, hey,
Speaker 1: Jeff said a tight end. For the record, if I'm
Speaker 1: I'm honestly relieved that Assiassi's gone because I don't want
Speaker 1: them to draft a tight end. They have Lake Darwin, right, Dave,
Speaker 1: So you heard the same thing then that they really
Speaker 1: liked ASSISI then, oh, yeah, no, he, I mean he's
Speaker 1: he is one of those names that's been circulating around.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have been the pick
Speaker 1: at one twenty three, but I think they really liked him.
Speaker 1: Um so, and I don't think they need a tight end.
Speaker 1: My whole point was I would rather try to get
Speaker 1: in Joku out of Cleveland than draft one of these
Speaker 1: tight ends because I just I don't feel great about
Speaker 1: this tight end class. I don't think it's that impressive.
Speaker 1: I still think I picks hang on, boys picks it. Okay,
Speaker 1: With the ninety second pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the ball more ravens like Devin DuVernay, wide receiver Texas,
Speaker 1: I thought they would maybe go with like a John
Speaker 1: high Tower or somebody like that first before DuVernay popped up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that a lot, though, Lamar, listen, you've got
Speaker 1: two choices. You can throw it to him behind the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and watch him work, or you can
Speaker 1: throw it to him way down there and watch him run.
Speaker 1: Because to me, that's what DuVernay kind of is. He's
Speaker 1: a deep threat. He's good in the screen game because
Speaker 1: he can break tackles, but I don't trust him as
Speaker 1: a route runner. Nope, let's let's run and let's do
Speaker 1: the opposite of running and step backwards and catch the ball.
Speaker 1: Maybe jet sweep it. Let Lamar just keep running the ball,
Speaker 1: keep running the ball. Give him an extra guy that
Speaker 1: can really run along with Hollywood Brown. You're throwing to
Speaker 1: these tight ends. I really like that fit. Dane. How
Speaker 1: is he as a blocker? I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: asked to do it that much, at least if he
Speaker 1: did on tape, I didn't see it a lot. But
Speaker 1: I mean, he's basically an engineer the run game. That's
Speaker 1: what he was at Texas, and he could track the
Speaker 1: deep ball. But yeah, he used to get the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands and he has the size of a
Speaker 1: running back and so he'd break tackles. Grant Delpa to
Speaker 1: tell you that. I mean he's a fourth three athlete,
Speaker 1: and you know it's like, do you look at the
Speaker 1: Ravens building a little bit of a track team there
Speaker 1: on offense with Hollywood Brown. Miles Boykin was a four
Speaker 1: three athlete last year, So they've got speed, speed to
Speaker 1: burn and JK. Dobbins in this draft that that offense
Speaker 1: is not fun to go against. I think it's a
Speaker 1: great pick by these guys. I told you I had
Speaker 1: those pocket of those receivers, those like the Porches, the Duvenais,
Speaker 1: the Van Jefferson's, kJ Hill. I mean, these are all
Speaker 1: guys that can really catch the ball, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean you just throw it in their direction, they find
Speaker 1: a way to make the play and then after the catch,
Speaker 1: they've got that kind of ability to finish. So I
Speaker 1: think the raven the Ravens just continually do things that
Speaker 1: you're like, you're you're looking at me, You're going, okay.
Speaker 1: They for years, they've gotten Ozzie, they've made the transition
Speaker 1: to Eric to Costa. I give them a high march
Speaker 1: for what they've been able to do. I like this
Speaker 1: pick overall. I really do you add another receiver? We
Speaker 1: kind of talked about maybe a Denzel Mims earlier for Baltimore,
Speaker 1: but honestly, I think du Rene might be a better
Speaker 1: fit than Mims in that offense anyway. So now we've
Speaker 1: got the Titans up ninety three, ninety four, ninety five
Speaker 1: Titans packers Broncos. Here what are we looking at for
Speaker 1: the Titans? I mean, they took Isaiah Wilson offensive tackle
Speaker 1: in the first Christian Fulton in that second round? Where
Speaker 1: are we going from here? If you're looking at an
Speaker 1: AFC Championship Titans team that has done a nice job
Speaker 1: of adding some talent here, Yeah, I'm trying. Yeah, i'd
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver. Um, we have a bullet who's off the
Speaker 1: board for them? So far? They took the right tackle,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson the first. They took the corner in the second,
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton. So could see them go ahead Rusher? Uh?
Speaker 1: Could see them go with more offensive line help? Uh?
Speaker 1: Could they take a linebacker like Malik Harrison? Um already
Speaker 1: didn't they? Yeah? Yeah? So they lost their tight end though, too,
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't? They lose. Uh. They they moved on
Speaker 1: from their long time tied end there, Landy Walker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they moved on like what's his name a lot though,
Speaker 1: Um they're other tight end uh from fiu oh Um
Speaker 1: Smith John Smith, Yes, uh so they like him a lot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean tight end could be a possibility here.
Speaker 1: I mean I was just again looking at the board
Speaker 1: and you know, and and seeing where the position maybe
Speaker 1: the better rated players would be on somebody's board. You know,
Speaker 1: that's kind of who who is the backup quarterback there?
Speaker 1: Have They have they addressed that with their situation there?
Speaker 1: I don't think so? Is that an I mean that's
Speaker 1: what I'm kind of looking at right now. If you
Speaker 1: know they've they've made commitment, you know, for the guy
Speaker 1: to have. But is there a backup quarterback there? Well? No,
Speaker 1: I think yeah, they they have the tleto kid Logan
Speaker 1: woods Side. Yeah, but no, I mean yeah, could they
Speaker 1: go with Aniston here as a you know, the value
Speaker 1: is just too much here to put behind Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: in case you know there's an injuries that's possibility. It's
Speaker 1: still odd we even mentioned maybe twelve thirteen picks ago,
Speaker 1: how we haven't seen a quarterback off the board. Since
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts went to Philadelphia at fifty three and we're
Speaker 1: almost to pick one hundred, we still haven't seen a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, much to Brian's point about the tight ends,
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing about some of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily need to be starters. A backup quarterback
Speaker 1: potential like a team like Tennessee. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Tennessee would go with one here, but I mean there's
Speaker 1: some teams here that could use one. I think this
Speaker 1: is just a random observation, but I think if the
Speaker 1: cowboys are listening, as they tend to do while they're
Speaker 1: in their separate war rooms right now, don't be afraid
Speaker 1: to jump back up in here to get a Keem Davis,
Speaker 1: Gaither or Terrell Burgess. Okay, don't be afraid to jump
Speaker 1: back in here. Are you willing this now? I'm willing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you willing. I'm willing my way Keem Davis,
Speaker 1: Gaither or Terrell burg Usually day three, you're one of
Speaker 1: the best willers there is. Yeah, maybe I do have
Speaker 1: to wait. I have to this round to end ye
Speaker 1: sleep in and day three will something Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: you using? I mean, what would you use to get
Speaker 1: up anyway? That's my question. Okay, So here's the way
Speaker 1: I would approach this two fives. Here's the way i'd
Speaker 1: approaches I do worth that's worth like eight points. Oh,
Speaker 1: just use them. I have the two five, call the
Speaker 1: guy down to Houston. He'll give it to you. I
Speaker 1: also a couple picks. I also know how the comp
Speaker 1: formula works, so I know what I have coming next year.
Speaker 1: I know that I'm going to have extra picks, and
Speaker 1: maybe three or four, and maybe a couple of them
Speaker 1: are pretty darn good. I'm not afraid to use the
Speaker 1: next year's pick because it's gonna get replaced by a
Speaker 1: COMP pick that's fair. Next year's three for Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can't have my way up trading for
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. No no, I'm just saying that you cannot.
Speaker 1: You cannot have my threes for next year. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna get next year threes. Not Well, you can't trade
Speaker 1: a pick that doesn't exist, first of all, So okay,
Speaker 1: but you can say that, But you could say next
Speaker 1: year three your own three. Yeah, you have your own
Speaker 1: you three, your own three for you got one. You
Speaker 1: know you're getting one. If you know you're getting one, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can do that. I would not do that. But
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna give you a third right now for next
Speaker 1: year's three. Yeah, exactly. Yets are happy about picking a
Speaker 1: player here. They're just going there. You're usually my my
Speaker 1: common sense buddy. Don't do this. You guys are all
Speaker 1: really taking turns being common sense guy, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to narrow down who's gonna play that role.
Speaker 1: Ever since Dane moved, he's become common sense guy. I
Speaker 1: got two kids. That happens. I thought that was the
Speaker 1: role that I was gonna have to fill coming into
Speaker 1: this this one. But it's everybody but Jeff. Yeah, Kyle,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come on over to my side
Speaker 1: and get a little wild on him. You know, Jeff
Speaker 1: and Brian, we got too much reality in here. You
Speaker 1: try to get crazy. Fine, let's trade back up and
Speaker 1: let's go get another wide receiver. Let's go fifty Burger.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, is there a wide receiver the running would
Speaker 1: even want to draft this early? Left? Uh? Donovan, people's jones, Kja,
Speaker 1: why would you bring that name up? I don't know
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just getting I'm just getting crazy. Dandy
Speaker 1: Golden I can get I should be able to Proche tomorrow. Jennings,
Speaker 1: I can get Proche tomorrow. Ideally I could get kJ
Speaker 1: Hill tomorrow too. Ideal. Yeah, I bet, I bet kJ
Speaker 1: Hills Belle with their fourth round pick, we gotta pick cut. Finally, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans slack Darrington Evans running back state. I
Speaker 1: didn't think he'd be the first step steak guy off
Speaker 1: the board. That makes sense. Five bucks to anybody that
Speaker 1: can name Tennessee's back up running back. I would I
Speaker 1: would lose Darrington Evans. Yeah, exactly, there it is bucks. No,
Speaker 1: because they don't really have anybody behind Derrick Henry, who's
Speaker 1: on the franchise tag. So, uh, that pick makes sense
Speaker 1: and this is the right way to do things. Leave
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry on the franchise tag and after this year, Una,
Speaker 1: let's not go down that rabbit hole. Sorry. Uh, like
Speaker 1: Darrison Evans, it's all about speed that uh that outside zone.
Speaker 1: Uh just let he's not the most gifted runner in
Speaker 1: terms of uh, you know, working off contact and you
Speaker 1: know he's not a banger in the middle, but He's
Speaker 1: a guy that will give him a runway and he'll
Speaker 1: make something happen kind of a lot of ways. Kind
Speaker 1: of like Derrick Henry, just in a much different package. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's not nearly as big and he's much faster, but
Speaker 1: it's all about the runway. You give him a little
Speaker 1: bit of room to work and he'll do the rest
Speaker 1: of that athleticism. Yeah, I think this guy does a
Speaker 1: really good job. Dane. Once again, it's got him cold.
Speaker 1: I think that to me that the the you look
Speaker 1: at him and the way he runs, and you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of see a guy that's been used as
Speaker 1: a running back and a wide receiver both during his career,
Speaker 1: and so when the ball's thrown to his direction, he'll
Speaker 1: make some he'll make some place. I mean, he'll make
Speaker 1: some place that makes some catch. I thought he did
Speaker 1: a really good job of protecting the football. You don't
Speaker 1: see him put the ball on the ground. You know
Speaker 1: he's gonna run tough, he's gonna hold onto it. He's
Speaker 1: got some value as a kickoff return guy as well.
Speaker 1: I know that's something that's not really big and I
Speaker 1: just bring it up, but you know, because the special
Speaker 1: team's value. But in this day and age, with kickoff return,
Speaker 1: it's like they pump him out of the end zone.
Speaker 1: If if a guy is a punt returner, that kind
Speaker 1: of gets my attention right there. But this kid is
Speaker 1: a he's one of those guys. When he does see
Speaker 1: that opening boom, he's gonna hit it and he's gonna go. Man,
Speaker 1: once you get outside the tackles with him, he is
Speaker 1: as fun as they come on tape. I mean, seven
Speaker 1: yards per carry, eighteen touchdowns, I mean, and I think
Speaker 1: eight of those eighteen were outside of the tackles as well.
Speaker 1: By the way, just a stat that I think I
Speaker 1: saw on Pro Football Focus. It looks like credit excuse me.
Speaker 1: It looks like the Packers pick is in in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft, Green Bay Packers slack Josiah tight ends.
Speaker 1: Interesting who had the Guara head of Troutman and Albertau
Speaker 1: and uh some of these other tight ends. That's that's surprising.
Speaker 1: You would have had me on that one for sure. Now,
Speaker 1: Deguara did have a really nice Senior Bowl week, and
Speaker 1: I even saw some of the notes that I wrote down.
Speaker 1: He made a couple of flashy plays in practice that
Speaker 1: kind of caught my eye, but overall as a player,
Speaker 1: I didn't have him even close to either of the
Speaker 1: Bryant and Bryant Law firm. Like Brian called it earlier.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a great way to put it,
Speaker 1: But I didn't have him anywhere close to those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. This was I think that if you look
Speaker 1: at I'm trying to think of what would be his
Speaker 1: his best trait and probably his ability to catch the ball.
Speaker 1: I think that's something that I didn't see anything else
Speaker 1: that was really kind of just really stood out other
Speaker 1: than Okay, throw him the ball. He's pretty good at
Speaker 1: extending the hands, catching it on the move, getting up
Speaker 1: the field. But I would kind of see a guy
Speaker 1: that that that that's about his best ability of doing
Speaker 1: that is being able to catch the ball instead of
Speaker 1: being a run blocker. For say, now you got the
Speaker 1: Broncos up the Chiefs in the Browns or excuse me,
Speaker 1: yeah no, it would be the Browns next at ninety
Speaker 1: seven and ninety seven, by the way, is the first
Speaker 1: comp pick that we would have out of a string
Speaker 1: of them. There's ten comp picks to round out the
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixth overall selection. That right, now it
Speaker 1: belongs to the Ravens. So with the Broncos on the
Speaker 1: clock here, they've had a couple of picks go their
Speaker 1: way so far. Trying to look back as to who
Speaker 1: they have selected. And you go back up to the
Speaker 1: first round come away with Jerry Judy helped kind of
Speaker 1: open the door for Cede Land to the Cowboys. Then
Speaker 1: you get kJ Hamler, so they're going with that that
Speaker 1: extra wide receiver look much like the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1: And then they get Ojamodidiya or whatever you say his name,
Speaker 1: like the cornerback Iowa. Yeah, that guy, But what are
Speaker 1: you looking at here? Oh? They also got Lloyd Cushionberry
Speaker 1: from LSU to go into that as well. So maybe
Speaker 1: defensive line thinking about here for the Broncos. They haven't
Speaker 1: addressed that yet. That's the one need that I have
Speaker 1: written down for him that they haven't necessarily had a
Speaker 1: solid pick at here. James Lynch from Baylor surprised we
Speaker 1: haven't heard his name yet. I think teams are confused.
Speaker 1: Where the best play him is my problem three? Technique
Speaker 1: only can you play him an outside as a base end?
Speaker 1: He doesn't have great length, but hard to ignore the
Speaker 1: production that he put up. I mean it's the Panther
Speaker 1: stack him and Weaver. Yeah. Yeah, the Panthers have drafted
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive lineman. But if he falls any further,
Speaker 1: Matt Rule is going to make a play. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: has to. I mean this kids guy, Yeah, this is guy.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's really nice about him is
Speaker 1: that you can't see him play as a wide technique,
Speaker 1: you know, as an edge rusher. He's got the great
Speaker 1: effort and those he'll finish some plays. I saw him
Speaker 1: get fooled a couple of times. I mean, I like
Speaker 1: the kid, and there's people saying, Okay, you could play
Speaker 1: him outside, you could play him inside, play him as
Speaker 1: a three technique, let him get up the field, use
Speaker 1: the quickness, you know. Just kind of one of those guys.
Speaker 1: He just keeps coming at you, you know, he is.
Speaker 1: There's a relentless type of to his game and effort
Speaker 1: and all that. So yeah, I mean I love players
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe I fall in love with players that
Speaker 1: I always see, and Gallimore was a guy. Should give
Speaker 1: him credit for the plays he was making running down
Speaker 1: the field and stuff like that. But I really did
Speaker 1: like James Lynch quite a bit. What about Foeto here
Speaker 1: for Denver. I mean, that's a guy who's still on
Speaker 1: the board that I know, Brian, you brought him up
Speaker 1: really early in the broadcast, but he's still on the
Speaker 1: board as a guy that could maybe come in and
Speaker 1: make Yeah. I know that was the Falcons. I was
Speaker 1: talking to those guys and there they kept you know,
Speaker 1: they kept cluing me in. I'm like, oh, we know what,
Speaker 1: we liked this Futo guy. We like him and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: watched him and stuff like that. But you know, then
Speaker 1: they made another pick. But yeah, I'm I've I've got
Speaker 1: other guys I think that I would I would take
Speaker 1: I like the Lawrence kid from Lshoe a little better
Speaker 1: at that's at that spy if you want to, if
Speaker 1: you want to, yeah I did. I did tell me.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do with him? You know,
Speaker 1: I've got a plane. I've got a plane as a
Speaker 1: as a defensive tackle, is what I do. You know,
Speaker 1: I think he could play. I think he could put
Speaker 1: him like as that, maybe as a one, a heavy one,
Speaker 1: or you could play him as the three. There's there's
Speaker 1: things you could when you watch him play. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the Denver Broncos picks in and we'll get
Speaker 1: back into it. Here's a Roger uh Roger Goodell with
Speaker 1: the with the Broncos pick twenty twenty NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos select Vic Telvin. A gene defensive tackles him Arkansas.
Speaker 1: M What got you to cuss there? Dave does Roger
Speaker 1: his feet kicked up. First of all, Oh yeah, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he is big time done here in the nineties. He's
Speaker 1: throwing the cards on the ground after their pick. He's
Speaker 1: just taking me. He's like spinning him into the fireplace.
Speaker 1: Now picks up a glass of whiskey and then yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a cigarette burning over in the corner. He
Speaker 1: got a nice book in between picks that he's reading. Anyway,
Speaker 1: who's up? Okay? Um? No, I just I mentioned this
Speaker 1: earlier with Neville Gallimore. It's it's the same thing. I
Speaker 1: just I love the way this whole process is so
Speaker 1: cyclical because McTelvin a game was a Shrine game. Guy,
Speaker 1: was he not down? Yes, he was good enough that
Speaker 1: he got the call up to the Senior Bowl and
Speaker 1: he he was on our flight to Mobile. And you know,
Speaker 1: anytime you see a football player in the airport you're
Speaker 1: kind of looking for. You're like, Okay, this guy's got
Speaker 1: a pig on his backpack. He went to Arkansas. What's
Speaker 1: what's this dude's deal? You figure out it's McTelvin. A game,
Speaker 1: he goes to the Senior Bowl, jumps up onto the radar,
Speaker 1: you know, his last second invite, had a really good
Speaker 1: week down there. And he's a guy that I would
Speaker 1: have been really happy to see the Cowboys pick. I
Speaker 1: said day three, which we're really close to day three,
Speaker 1: so that makes sense. And it's just cool, like you
Speaker 1: know he was. He made the best of a of
Speaker 1: a late time call up, and I'm happy for It's
Speaker 1: a pressure, Dave. You feel that pressure covering the Arkansas guys, right,
Speaker 1: you know, you know Steve and a Jerry. You got
Speaker 1: to kind of know those Arkansas guys. I have a
Speaker 1: background on him. Oh, Brian, you're smarter than that. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't actually ever draft Arkansas, but you got to
Speaker 1: know about those kids. This guy started forty forty games
Speaker 1: in his career. Think about that experienced. Yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: some athletic ability to him. He's got really good desire.
Speaker 1: I love the effort, the way he plays. The reason
Speaker 1: I watched him is because I kind of was getting
Speaker 1: us some hearing some whispered Oh, Kansas season on the clock.
Speaker 1: Let's go the commissioner real quick. Here with the ninety
Speaker 1: six pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs like Lucas near tackle TCU Frogs, Lucas, Oh,
Speaker 1: go Frogs. I thought Jeff was yelling, we were robbed.
Speaker 1: I have to so I have to reach to the
Speaker 1: thing when that miss I had to get out of
Speaker 1: the chair and push just right. Games on fire right
Speaker 1: now from having to get up so many times, but
Speaker 1: just finish up with our Arkansas guy. I like the
Speaker 1: guy as far as you could watch him. A couple
Speaker 1: of games Kentucky Auburn. I thought he played pretty well
Speaker 1: in those games with the like to see him use
Speaker 1: his hands a little bit better. But there were some
Speaker 1: snaps where he just threw his shoulder in the blocker
Speaker 1: and went from there. But he's got some pop to
Speaker 1: his approach, and you know, I could see why somebody
Speaker 1: likes the kid great. The effort with him is really
Speaker 1: really good well, and I also I think during his
Speaker 1: time at the Senior Bowl, you also just kind of
Speaker 1: saw the effort, and I know there was a piece
Speaker 1: put out by the Dallas Cowboys dot com crew a
Speaker 1: little bit earlier this week, and even in those kind
Speaker 1: of it was a documentary behind the scenes of the
Speaker 1: draft process with the scouting department, and one of the
Speaker 1: clips they're actually talking about a game and what he's
Speaker 1: doing at the Senior Bowl, kind of talking about his
Speaker 1: technique and whatnot. So at least at one point the
Speaker 1: Cowboys scouting department at least caught the attention or at
Speaker 1: least a game caught the attention of the scouting department overall.
Speaker 1: But yes, Lucas Nange goes to the Kansas City Chiefs,
Speaker 1: they get some offensive line help. Is that just depth
Speaker 1: day in terms of there for Kansas City or his
Speaker 1: tackle actually a need there? No, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a need with Fisher and Schwartz, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the value for the Chiefs became, you know,
Speaker 1: too much, and they didn't want to pass. He was
Speaker 1: a right tackle only at TCU. Maybe you look to
Speaker 1: move I mean six six through fifteen, maybe you'd try
Speaker 1: and movement inside to guards see what he can do.
Speaker 1: But this is a player where if he were fully healthy.
Speaker 1: I think he goes earlier than this, but he had
Speaker 1: a hip injury that he played with. He played through
Speaker 1: his entire for the first half of his senior year,
Speaker 1: and then he just you know, pain tolerance became too
Speaker 1: much and he missed the second half of the year,
Speaker 1: missed most of the pre draft process. If he can
Speaker 1: be more consistent with his footwork, with his landmarks, like,
Speaker 1: I like a lot of what he has to offer.
Speaker 1: So I like this as an upside pick for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips, the linebacker from LSU, goes to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: We're now in the compensatory phase of the draft here,
Speaker 1: so David Hellman, give me a little scouting report on
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips, the linebacker LSU. I just think he's a
Speaker 1: He is a steady player like nothing. I mean, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have the athleticism that's gonna wow you like Patrick Queen.
Speaker 1: That's why he's being drafted here. But he just produced
Speaker 1: for LSU. I mean, he tackles everything. He's got the
Speaker 1: athleticism to move side to side. He makes plays on
Speaker 1: the ball. I remember, Brian, we sat next to each
Speaker 1: other at at and T stadium and watched him pick
Speaker 1: six Miami. He's just a reliable guy, like I would
Speaker 1: have loved to draft this guy on Day three to
Speaker 1: be a you know, a fill in for my will
Speaker 1: in mic linebacker position. Yeah. That a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: they're showing that interception right now against Miami. The thing
Speaker 1: that bothered me, even though he had that pick six,
Speaker 1: I saw them take him off the field in some
Speaker 1: nickel situations. You know, it's like they it's like they
Speaker 1: weren't really sure about him. They were rotating guys in
Speaker 1: and out of there. But you're right, Dave, he'll step
Speaker 1: up and he will take on ball carriers and he
Speaker 1: will finish and he's not afraid to deliver a blow,
Speaker 1: be physical. But again, that get taking him off the field,
Speaker 1: especially here. That's I mean he's at a school like LSU,
Speaker 1: Like he could be the best player on the defense
Speaker 1: at a lot of schools, but not LSU. And I
Speaker 1: mean he got lost in the shuffle behind a lot
Speaker 1: of guys because they're they've got four and five star
Speaker 1: talents everywhere, which is you know, I wouldn't have I
Speaker 1: would not have drafted him any higher than this. But
Speaker 1: I just think he's I mean, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: play in the NFL for a while, maybe not be
Speaker 1: a star, but just a solid, productive linebacker. Well, and
Speaker 1: I think kind of the fact that he's selected here,
Speaker 1: it kind of brings up the conversation of the linebacking group. Overall,
Speaker 1: there's only been a handful of linebackers even taken in
Speaker 1: the draft. You still got some good ones out there,
Speaker 1: like a Malie Harrison from Ohio State, Troy Die Oregon,
Speaker 1: Keem Davis Gaither who we continue to talk about here,
Speaker 1: Marcus Bailey from Purdue as a guy who right around
Speaker 1: this sweet spot of the fourth round. We've had conversations
Speaker 1: on the Draft show before. Over So, I still think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of linebackers that are taken or that
Speaker 1: are still on the board. Rather so the fact that
Speaker 1: he's I believe I have seven linebackers taken, so you
Speaker 1: have Phillips is the seventh. That's a pretty high token
Speaker 1: for a guy who, like you said, got kind of
Speaker 1: pushed back because of the success of a guy like
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen Well got Baltimore is on the clock. This
Speaker 1: was a pick that originally belonged to New England, though
Speaker 1: now the Ravens were waiting for them to hand their
Speaker 1: card in right now. So I feel like the Ravens
Speaker 1: have had always say this, the Ravens had a good draft.
Speaker 1: They just sit there and pick the pick players and
Speaker 1: they'd say fall to them, you know, and they get
Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson at thirty two. Why does that make
Speaker 1: all so mad? Because they do the right thing? Do
Speaker 1: you wish your team did that? Yes, I admire it,
Speaker 1: and they're doing the Cowboys are doing it this year,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's cool. Just they do it a lot.
Speaker 1: The Ravens pick Patrick Queen, JK. Dobbins, yeah, Justin Metabek,
Speaker 1: Devin DuVernay. And they still need some defensive line help
Speaker 1: maybe defensive tackle or edge here. But that is a hell.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good draft so far. And you're wondering
Speaker 1: why I was mad, Right, No, I'm not. But I
Speaker 1: mean it's they're like they don't move. It's not like
Speaker 1: they're in the damn NFC East. I mean, you get
Speaker 1: to see him firsthand next year, Dave. Yeah, we get
Speaker 1: you get to make a trip to Baltimore and hopefully
Speaker 1: they'll have the hope I'm gonna get to stay there
Speaker 1: at Camden Yards. I mean crab cakes. Yeah, watch some football.
Speaker 1: Such a lovely city. This is going to be a blast.
Speaker 1: Flip the lady in extra twenty Sh'll give you an
Speaker 1: extra crab cake, Dave. I'll do that, Brian, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did it a couple of times. It works. How much
Speaker 1: of crab cakes twenty No, you get them free and
Speaker 1: you know in the media area, but they only give
Speaker 1: you one, so you Roger Goodell is gonna give me
Speaker 1: a pick with exues me In the twenty NFL Draft
Speaker 1: to Baltimore Ravens select Malie Harrison, line back Ohio State.
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me, Malie Harrison. Speaking of getting
Speaker 1: good players, I think Millie Harrison's arguably the best run
Speaker 1: defending linebacker in the draft. Um, and he wasn't asked
Speaker 1: to be in pass coverage all that much. But this
Speaker 1: is a pretty good athlete, so I think he can
Speaker 1: do it. But verse the run, he's really really good.
Speaker 1: And he's a high school quarterback. Wanted to play receiver
Speaker 1: when he went to Ohio State. They moved to linebacker.
Speaker 1: In every single year he got better and better and better.
Speaker 1: Surprised that he's the ninety eighth pick. I thought he'd
Speaker 1: go much higher than this, but typical Ravens fashion, they
Speaker 1: let a good player fall to them and they get him.
Speaker 1: I will say this, I just I mean, I just
Speaker 1: gave a nice scouting report of Jacob Phillips. I would
Speaker 1: draft this guy ahead of Jacob Phillips. Oh yeah, oh
Speaker 1: I would too. No, like, no question. I didn't even
Speaker 1: you know, we're so deep into this thing. I didn't
Speaker 1: even realized he was still on the board. Yeah. This,
Speaker 1: I mean, this feels like a steal, which again not
Speaker 1: a huge surprise for the Ravens. Well. And the thing
Speaker 1: is is, I brought his name up a little bit ago.
Speaker 1: I did, much like Kavanaugh did, and he kind of
Speaker 1: talked about a little earlier about doing the cheap and
Speaker 1: kind of lazy mock draft the night or the morning
Speaker 1: of the draft. He was the one that was there
Speaker 1: at ninety eight for my mock draft this morning, So
Speaker 1: that's why I brought his name up, kind of going
Speaker 1: along with Jacob Phillips going it kind of sparked the
Speaker 1: conversation of linebackers. I had no idea that even the
Speaker 1: Ravens were interested in a guy like Malie Harrison, but man,
Speaker 1: I love that pick for them. There, and now you
Speaker 1: move on to the Giants and then the Patriots, or
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Patriots have given up their one hundredth
Speaker 1: comp pick as well, because now Las Vegas has that selection,
Speaker 1: and so you've got the Giants and then the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Is this a spot maybe for the Giants to look
Speaker 1: at a tight end overall, because much like Brian was
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, there's a run of tight ends going
Speaker 1: and I think you look at the Giants that, even
Speaker 1: though they have Evan Ingram, they may want to look
Speaker 1: at a tight end here, maybe interior offensive line, because
Speaker 1: I know they've had some trouble there too. It's been
Speaker 1: a run on tight ends that probably shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: picked yet over tight ends that are still on the board.
Speaker 1: So if you want one hold on going to the
Speaker 1: podium in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New York
Speaker 1: Giants like Matt Parrot tackle University of Connecticut. Matt few parrot.
Speaker 1: Is it perfect parrot? It's parrot, It's what parrots? Parrot? Parrot?
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, Roger had it right, job, Rodger, well done.
Speaker 1: Why is it a good Dane? Well? And it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of local flavor for him, grew up in
Speaker 1: the Bronx. Uh So he goes to the Giants and
Speaker 1: a player who I feel like I've said this a
Speaker 1: few times, but you have to play his best football.
Speaker 1: Huge size of frame, six six three eighteen thirty thirty
Speaker 1: six and five eighth inch arms, highlights. I mean, just silly.
Speaker 1: But you know he played left tackle and right tackle.
Speaker 1: He's still figuring out how to you know, how to
Speaker 1: answer a lot of the counters that rushers are gonna
Speaker 1: throw at him. But he moves well, he has length.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's he's a developmental tackle that in the
Speaker 1: third round. That's the type of guy you're looking for. Well,
Speaker 1: just to tie this back to the Cowboys, also Cam
Speaker 1: Fleming right now is listed as the right tackle, but
Speaker 1: they did take Andrew Thomas in the first round, a
Speaker 1: fourth overall, so this the second tackle that they've taken.
Speaker 1: Dane was prepared more of a left or a right
Speaker 1: tackle during his time at Yukon. He played well. I
Speaker 1: saw him on right. Well. It was weird because he
Speaker 1: played He started at left tackles first two years, then
Speaker 1: they moved in the right tackle for his final two
Speaker 1: years and I asked him why and he said, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Coaches just asked me too, so I did.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, there you go. So he he
Speaker 1: he's shown that he can play both sides. That went
Speaker 1: back and looked at some of a sophomore film and
Speaker 1: it's not like he was abysmal there. He did a
Speaker 1: nice job. And you know, I talked to him about
Speaker 1: he was the last remaining member of that recruiting class
Speaker 1: from yukon twenty fifteen, and UH asked him, why why
Speaker 1: just stay? You could have transferred grad transfer and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a loyal guy. This is the program
Speaker 1: that believed in me, gave me a scholarship, so I
Speaker 1: want to pay that back. And just a really good person.
Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed talking to him. And actually I
Speaker 1: called his high school football coach to find out more
Speaker 1: about him, and he I couldn't get him off the
Speaker 1: phone because he kept raving about how impressive a young
Speaker 1: man he is. Tanner Muse is going to be the
Speaker 1: first Clemson safety off the board. Although do you guys
Speaker 1: thinker That's what I'm thinking. And this is a Raiders
Speaker 1: pick right, Oh yeah, Oh here's Mike Mayock again. I mean,
Speaker 1: great guy, but he's he's gonna take a guy from Clemson, Alabama,
Speaker 1: one of those places. So yeah, I mean winning doubt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: draft guys from the schools that go to the playoffs
Speaker 1: every year. The one thing that I noticed about this
Speaker 1: guy watched him on tape. He looks like he can
Speaker 1: really running him here. I'm with Dave Hellman live at
Speaker 1: the game, but I had to go back and watch
Speaker 1: the tape and this kid. They put him in coverage.
Speaker 1: Either they put him like uh Edwards Hilaire would go
Speaker 1: to the flat and he would run with him, or
Speaker 1: he would carry Moss inside. So they did him a
Speaker 1: couple of different Uh, put him in a couple different spots. Dan,
Speaker 1: this guy's a really good special teams player, isn't he?
Speaker 1: That's it? Yeah, exactly, he's gonna I think he's I
Speaker 1: don't know that he's Where's he gonna play on defense?
Speaker 1: I have my questions there. This is a Rich Bisaccia
Speaker 1: pick right here, right, He's gonna play ten years in
Speaker 1: the league because of special teams. But I I just
Speaker 1: I question, uh with the rare Jets and Patriots trade. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Tanner muse four four one speed to
Speaker 1: his size, he was a big time baseball player in
Speaker 1: high school. He is going to be a special team's
Speaker 1: demon for a lot of years in this league. And
Speaker 1: you just mentioned the Jets in the Patriots trading. I
Speaker 1: thought Seattle had one on one. Yeah, it looks like Seattle.
Speaker 1: It says New England's pick is in here? Are he not?
Speaker 1: Still on one hundred? Am I behind on one on
Speaker 1: one day? Damn it? Come on? Where'd you go? Dave?
Speaker 1: I'm losing. I'm losing my mind. That's what's going on
Speaker 1: the whole Another day tomorrow, Dave. Four more rounds left? No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm up to date, like this was the last A
Speaker 1: Blue Cup tomorrow is not a problem. Guys, you know
Speaker 1: how to say this. Hey Dane, what do you think?
Speaker 1: That's what happens on day three? There's water in the cup? Spicy?
Speaker 1: What I did? My uh no, my spreadsheet was just off.
Speaker 1: He's some Miller white right behind you. One wrong, all wrong? Okay,
Speaker 1: just remember that. I freaking hate you. May By the way,
Speaker 1: did you get the speech before the start of the
Speaker 1: draft yesterday? No? I didn't. I did. Didn't go with
Speaker 1: these of the times to try. We threw out, we
Speaker 1: threw out some Thomas Paine. We didn't do that. You didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't do the never had so many oaths, so
Speaker 1: much to so few Me and me and Dane basically
Speaker 1: just made fun of how melodramatic you are. That's basically
Speaker 1: what happened. Cal. I'm a little disappointed in you didn't
Speaker 1: carry on that tradition. Is there is there a speech
Speaker 1: you want to give as we head into the start?
Speaker 1: There was such addition. And also Dave showed up yesterday
Speaker 1: with a tie tie tie? Dane should Dane? Did you
Speaker 1: not wear a tie? Dane asked me. Dan asked me
Speaker 1: what we should wear, and I told him to do
Speaker 1: what he wanted. It's so blame Hellman for the lack
Speaker 1: of tradition. A selfish guy. Y'all are your own men,
Speaker 1: y'all are grown ups. Whatever. Since Dane moved, Brian's right,
Speaker 1: he's really been about his family. Not cool kind of
Speaker 1: person is that? Yeah? Oh me? The fun we have
Speaker 1: at the draft, questions football character, the question why even
Speaker 1: came back. I feel like Brian would if he were scouting,
Speaker 1: he'd be like this guy's got two kids. He loves
Speaker 1: him so much. He's not really into football now, Dan,
Speaker 1: I do want to apologize because it was New It
Speaker 1: was New York that traded to New England, because New
Speaker 1: England had one hundred, but they gave that to the
Speaker 1: Raiders and now they get back up to one. So
Speaker 1: I don't know it's New England. But yeah, I was
Speaker 1: confused by the original saying. But Dane, of course, as always,
Speaker 1: was correct and one hundred percent certain that it was
Speaker 1: a rare New England New York trade between the Jets
Speaker 1: and the Patriots, and that's why the Patriots are actually
Speaker 1: on the clock here. Anthony Jennings Devin ASSISI two guys
Speaker 1: that they've already selected. Yeah, picked the most random guy
Speaker 1: on your board, and that's who they're gonna take. Could
Speaker 1: they go tight end again? Man? Yes, yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be such a problem. Take my guy Harris, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of what I would think. That's my guy Troutman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Troutman would be a yeah, that would be good. I mean,
Speaker 1: I tuts my next best guy, Hunter, I mean Hunter
Speaker 1: Bryant too at Washington. Washington's a good player. I do.
Speaker 1: I do kind of like Hunter Bryant. He's fun. Could
Speaker 1: this be for a quarterback? Oh? Man, let's find about
Speaker 1: that because it's good value, fake fake out from Rod.
Speaker 1: But Rogers is talking to random Yeah, he says, on
Speaker 1: zoom with people or something. But how certain are they
Speaker 1: in Jared Stidham and the fact that nobody's taking a
Speaker 1: quarterback in a while. It seems like that take his
Speaker 1: kind of do. Here, Belichick is eight steps ahead. He
Speaker 1: doesn't really believe in Stidham. He believes Stidham can go
Speaker 1: one in fifteen, and he believes he can win eight
Speaker 1: Super Bowls with Trevor Lawrence. We love that he's sitting
Speaker 1: at this dining room table with him. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: got a better set up than the greatest coach of
Speaker 1: all time. He looks like he's doing homework. Did you
Speaker 1: see he had the dog like, oh yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: his GM is working. He and the dog is at
Speaker 1: the chair like looking at the computer. Belichick. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: that's the difference between Belichick and Kingsbury. You know, Kingsbury
Speaker 1: gets caught up and having a fire lit in a
Speaker 1: courtyard that you're not even at. Belichick believes in working.
Speaker 1: I think that looked like the lobby of a hotel
Speaker 1: more so than somebody. So here we go a at
Speaker 1: the table. Bill's waiting on a biscuits, a gravy to
Speaker 1: show up or something like that. Great if you had
Speaker 1: breakfast for dinner and it was sitting right there at
Speaker 1: the waffle house hanging out hungry me too. Okay, we
Speaker 1: talked about quarterback here, right, it's just somebody to throw
Speaker 1: that out. We just do it. Mentioned we mentioned it.
Speaker 1: Here's the commissioner tell us the hundred first pick to
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. With the hundred first pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Patriots like Dalton teen tight
Speaker 1: end right sleeper, tight end at all to get tight
Speaker 1: ends rolling down the board. Okay, heard a lot of
Speaker 1: people really high on him, even though he doesn't get
Speaker 1: a lot of shine. I like the number twenty nine.
Speaker 1: But there wasn't a lot to watch this year in
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. But he was one of the few guys
Speaker 1: and they just barely used him. I mean he was. Uh.
Speaker 1: You look at his production. It doesn't get you excited.
Speaker 1: But when he had a chance, he made the most
Speaker 1: of it. So uh. And you gotta love a guy
Speaker 1: whose nickname is Rambo. So did you see his picture there?
Speaker 1: He had he had the stringing. He looked like a Rambo.
Speaker 1: He did here you go. Yeah, thanks. His dad was
Speaker 1: a former offensive lineman, so he's got that in his DNA,
Speaker 1: and uh, there's a lot to like about him as
Speaker 1: and he goes to a good fit with the with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, who will know how to use him along
Speaker 1: with Devin Assissi. At the same time, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: it's a very Patriots thing to just draft two at
Speaker 1: the same time, well, listen, when you don't have one
Speaker 1: draft a bunch, especially if you're talking about the end
Speaker 1: of the third round through the end of the draft,
Speaker 1: just pick four of them and hope that you hit
Speaker 1: on one or something. I mean, don't didn't they come
Speaker 1: into this draft and into today with like twelve picks.
Speaker 1: It was it was quite a few. I mean they
Speaker 1: got there. They're they're owning this round right now. It
Speaker 1: looks like they got you know, with the It's funny
Speaker 1: about the Patriots though again they're teamed to draft. They
Speaker 1: don't care. They just don't. They don't care. They're just
Speaker 1: gonna do what they have to do. But it's it's
Speaker 1: it makes me now think of, Okay, what did did
Speaker 1: I miss somethone Troutman, did I miss something on these
Speaker 1: Bryant guys. I miss something on Pinckney. Did I miss
Speaker 1: something on Albert? Oh? You know? I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: is it are these just now instead of third round guys?
Speaker 1: Are the fourth round guys or the fifth round eyes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's the thing if Pittsburgh Steelers picks.
Speaker 1: And we haven't gone to the commissioner yet, but it
Speaker 1: just makes me think. Now when I when I look
Speaker 1: at this guy tonight, I'll sit down and look at
Speaker 1: this board again to get ready for tomorrow, and I'll
Speaker 1: have five tight ends that'll be you know, next available guy.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the Steelers pick with the one second thick
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers select Alex Highsmith,
Speaker 1: linebacker Charlotte. I like that pick a lot. Actually ESPN
Speaker 1: tipped that pick. They showed Alex hi Smith. They showed
Speaker 1: his little package before like two minutes ago. Oh stop it, Cavanaugh,
Speaker 1: come on. They showed his graphic God, the graphics. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: do you guys, you guys suck man? Alex Highsmith, good player?
Speaker 1: Um And like, hey, if Dabbos Sweeney calls you the
Speaker 1: best player we've seen all year. That's pretty good and
Speaker 1: that's what that Bosweeney did with that. After they played
Speaker 1: Charlotte and it wasn't much of a contest, But Alex
Speaker 1: Highsmith as a really talented guy, and he really wasn't
Speaker 1: on the radar because he was more of an interior
Speaker 1: player the way they the way they lined him up.
Speaker 1: But new coaching staff comes in, they put him outside,
Speaker 1: let him just pin his ears back and go and
Speaker 1: he was one of the most productive backfield guys this year.
Speaker 1: He was top five in the FBS and tackles for
Speaker 1: loss and sacks. So you don't do that without having
Speaker 1: a little bit of juice to rush off the edge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the best film to watch with him was that Clemson tape.
Speaker 1: You're right, Dane and this guy, I mean, he is
Speaker 1: I don't think he has that start stop quickness, but
Speaker 1: once he does get you know, the quickness is good,
Speaker 1: but it's not that stuck when if you kind of
Speaker 1: if you could hold him. At Clemson, we're kind of
Speaker 1: bumping him around a little bit, and you know he
Speaker 1: was he was having a little bit of trouble to
Speaker 1: get going again. But I'll tell you what though made
Speaker 1: he is one of those guys that when he could
Speaker 1: work to the inside or he could play on the move,
Speaker 1: that's where that's where I think he does some good.
Speaker 1: He does have some pass rush moves. I think his
Speaker 1: techniques need to get a little bit better. But but
Speaker 1: I felt like though overall though, there's a lot to
Speaker 1: work with him when it comes to the type of
Speaker 1: player he is. I think the strength needs to improve
Speaker 1: a little bit though with him. But you're right Van
Speaker 1: about watching the Clemson tape. That's at least gives you
Speaker 1: an idea of some of the type of competition will
Speaker 1: have to play. And I like stories like that as well.
Speaker 1: With whenever you talk about a guy who walked on
Speaker 1: at Charlotte, a Conference USA school and he was a
Speaker 1: walk on because he didn't receive any FBS offers, and
Speaker 1: he goes on Day two of the NFL Draft. That's
Speaker 1: a cool story for anybody out there, and it just
Speaker 1: kind of a personal aspect of it. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: okay because Team Davis Gaither's still on the board. Davion Taylor,
Speaker 1: the Colorado linebacker who played a grand total of one
Speaker 1: high school football games. The Scouting Report six foot, two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight runs like the wind. You can
Speaker 1: tell that he hasn't played a ton of football because
Speaker 1: you can see that the keys and the reading isn't
Speaker 1: always what you would want it to be. But when
Speaker 1: he gets it right, holy cow, he can get aggressive.
Speaker 1: He can fly sideline the sideline. He's a four four guy.
Speaker 1: I think dave On Taylor is my favorite developmental linebacker
Speaker 1: in this class. I love him. I love him, and
Speaker 1: he's gone. I'll tell you what. You know this this guy,
Speaker 1: Jeff's right about him. It's funny. They play him like
Speaker 1: wide and kind of detached. They'll play him in the slide.
Speaker 1: Was watching the Nebraska game and he'll cover in the slot.
Speaker 1: He can cover some ground though too. When he's got
Speaker 1: legit speed, he really attacks the ball when given the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I think he's a good tackler when
Speaker 1: he gets the chance to bring the guy down there.
Speaker 1: There's some he'll put his body in some crazy positions
Speaker 1: to make tackles. I thought he needed maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit balanced, a bit of balance and body control. But man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, there's there's some times out
Speaker 1: there where he didn't know what he's doing. You can
Speaker 1: watch him and you're like, you're like, man, he's like
Speaker 1: he's kind of looking around and he's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: need to get the ball. He's running to get the ball.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a he's like, Muse is going to
Speaker 1: be a special teams guy initially. This this guy's the
Speaker 1: same way. I mean, check checked the special team snaps
Speaker 1: for this cat. He ran a four four nine at
Speaker 1: the combine. Then he ran a four three. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: yeah it actually happened. Yeah, absolutely, And one of the
Speaker 1: best stories. Didn't play in high school because of religious reasons,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's just fascinating the path that he took. Um,
Speaker 1: he practiced, he was part of the team, just never
Speaker 1: played in a game. He played in one game, and
Speaker 1: it's because they started early enough on a Friday, but
Speaker 1: went to Juco route went then went to Colorado. But
Speaker 1: like you said, a player where you can tell he's
Speaker 1: inexperience with the way he plays. The instincts aren't quite
Speaker 1: there yet, but the speed sure is. And he ran
Speaker 1: track at Colorado. So not surprised to see him go
Speaker 1: at this point a third round rams at one oh four.
Speaker 1: Take Terrell bone, no, Utah, it's kind of crazy that
Speaker 1: he lasted all the way to one oh four. We
Speaker 1: need to figure that out. Boys, That's all right, Well
Speaker 1: we need to figure out is what's going on with
Speaker 1: a Keem Davis Gaither and hope it keeps going on
Speaker 1: for about twenty more picks, twenty to twenty five more pick. Well,
Speaker 1: you only got two left in the round, and you
Speaker 1: still got Curtis Weaver on the board, still got all
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, Lewis, if you want to take an injury
Speaker 1: risk in the fourth round, I know we don't. We
Speaker 1: haven't talked a lot of tackles, at least since the
Speaker 1: first But what about Prince Tega here? I mean, Prince
Speaker 1: Tega has been on the board for quite a while.
Speaker 1: I actually liked the Charles kid from Lshoe a little bit.
Speaker 1: And that's not because it's my school. Damn, the Kansas Kid.
Speaker 1: How do you pronounced the Kansas Kid's last name? Identity? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have Charles the Prince and identity kind of in
Speaker 1: that little pocket. Prince is a real prince. He is
Speaker 1: a real prince. Yeah yeah, But I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of got all those guys in that in that fourth
Speaker 1: round pocket there, guys, is where I'm looking at those Cats.
Speaker 1: I'm curious about Charles. Uh you know he was in
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, more you dig the worst you got, And
Speaker 1: I just I don't know this, but I wonder if
Speaker 1: we're gonna be sitting here tomorrow saying, oh man, he's
Speaker 1: still there, He's still there. I wonder why. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think we wonder why. No, Well, you're you're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, we know and we know why. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: I think you know, every year there's a guy who
Speaker 1: is the best available for like two hours. You know
Speaker 1: it was, I mean it was probably just Terrell Burgess
Speaker 1: just now, and I think you know, Sadiq Charles could
Speaker 1: be that guy tomorrow. One thing that is pretty uh,
Speaker 1: pretty encouraging in terms of some of these uh these
Speaker 1: picks laid in this round. There's a lot of interior
Speaker 1: offensive line talent that's gonna be there in the fourth
Speaker 1: round if the Cowboys want to address that position, I
Speaker 1: mean before the I mean we got two picks left,
Speaker 1: do we kind of want to reset our expectations for
Speaker 1: what we're looking at a pick one twenty three. I
Speaker 1: think that's a good idea, like to trade back into
Speaker 1: one oh five or one oh six, just make it interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Saints have got The Saints just did that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Saints are back into this thing. Go get a
Speaker 1: Keem Davis Gaither, thank you. I don't think it would
Speaker 1: be a linebacker. I think it would be a tight end.
Speaker 1: Why why would you not try and go get one
Speaker 1: of those guys? I don't know if it's it's one
Speaker 1: of the Bryants or if it's uh An Albert o'quebanam,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who. Why would you not try and
Speaker 1: hang out? Vikings have traded the one fifth pick to
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saint. With the one hundred and fifth
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New Orleans
Speaker 1: Saints select Adam Troutman tight end day Grol Kyle. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that, I promise. I was just trying to
Speaker 1: bring up a talking point. Sure you didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: all have on my screen. We all have Twitter. My
Speaker 1: Twitter's not up, I promise. Oh you're a liar. I'm not,
Speaker 1: but early, I was trying to bring it up. Let's
Speaker 1: go something real quick. This was Dane Brugler's number one
Speaker 1: tight end, Dane firemout uh a guy, there's a quarterback.
Speaker 1: His entire life, and then he goes to Dayton and
Speaker 1: he says, hey, I just want to play, so let
Speaker 1: me move to tight end. First time he ever caught
Speaker 1: a pass as the ret refreshman was the first time
Speaker 1: in his life he ever caught a pass in a
Speaker 1: football game. So I'm surprised he's lasted outside the top
Speaker 1: one hundred picks. But the competitiveness that he offers. Not
Speaker 1: a speed guy, but you see the route running, you
Speaker 1: see a guy that's able to attack the catch point.
Speaker 1: And what I loved most after I got done talking
Speaker 1: with him, was just the competitiveness that he has. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is a guy that has driven and so typical.
Speaker 1: You know, we've mentioned this with the Ravens and with
Speaker 1: some other teams, but the Saints seemed to find really
Speaker 1: good players in rounds two, three, and four, and they
Speaker 1: did it again. Here. You see an opportunity, you go
Speaker 1: up and try and grab a guy that could help
Speaker 1: you out, and the Saints needed to tie end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that and that I just wondered. I thought this run
Speaker 1: would come a lot earlier. With these sides. There's a
Speaker 1: couple that have just flat that I I didn't think
Speaker 1: we're as good as the guys were. You know, we're
Speaker 1: talking about with like I said, we mentioned Troutman, the
Speaker 1: two Bryants, Albertau. I just you know, the hot Hopkins
Speaker 1: kid is another guy, Parkinson from Stanford. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: just a pocket of guys there that are really, really
Speaker 1: good players, and it's just it's surprising me that it
Speaker 1: took this long for for Troutman to go and real quick.
Speaker 1: You know, since we were taught, did you you guys
Speaker 1: see the terms of this thing, this trade? So we
Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, if you want to get
Speaker 1: back in there, Jeff, be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1: Because the Saints needed four picks to get this done.
Speaker 1: They gave up one thirty one, thirty one, sixty nine,
Speaker 1: two oh three, and two forty four. So I don't
Speaker 1: know the Saints whole draft, but that's I mean, it
Speaker 1: sounds like they're done picking to get this guy. So
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you wanted to go get your linebacker,
Speaker 1: you probably have to give up everything you've got tomorrow
Speaker 1: to do. We just hang out see if that was
Speaker 1: to us, and then we use quality over quantity. I
Speaker 1: think they are done. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it.
Speaker 1: I don't hate. I mean, if the Saints feel like
Speaker 1: that's their guy, I don't hate the decision, because what
Speaker 1: are the odds you're gonna just hit home runs with
Speaker 1: those pass organizations? Done it before, right, Yeah? Just go yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: oh god, the Ricky Williams trade and getting address or whatever.
Speaker 1: Which one word dress was it Ricky or yeah, ricky
Speaker 1: word dress. If you feel like he's the guy, I say,
Speaker 1: do it, as long as you're comfortable being done for
Speaker 1: the weekend. Well, they've traded next year's one before to
Speaker 1: do stuff. You know, the Saints, they're not afraid to trade.
Speaker 1: The Saints are in a unique spot where they are
Speaker 1: really I mean, it's it's it's now. Should have been
Speaker 1: the super Bowl the last two years, That's what. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's now or never. You got maybe
Speaker 1: two years to win a championship with Breeze maybe, Well,
Speaker 1: they're operating on a different timeline than most NFL teams.
Speaker 1: You can also just throw in the factor of who's
Speaker 1: had a better third round. They pick up Zach Bond
Speaker 1: and Adam Troutman in the third round alone, and then
Speaker 1: you add Caesar Ruise in the first as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty solid draft, even if you call it
Speaker 1: quits there. So yeah, the Vitings have thirteen picks tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Good god, Yeah that's true. So we're just gonna be
Speaker 1: here and we're gonna be talking about Spielman every other Well,
Speaker 1: here's the final pick of the final pick of the round.
Speaker 1: We go. Here we go with the pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft the Baltimore Ravens like Kyrie Phillips
Speaker 1: guard Mississippi State. There is irrelevant of Day two hiree Phillips.
Speaker 1: That's another guy I had in that article of guys
Speaker 1: who could potentially replace Travis Frederick late in the draft.
Speaker 1: That was another offensive guard that could potentially fill that role.
Speaker 1: Anything else on him? Dane Uh massive, dude, surprise they
Speaker 1: announced him as a guard. I thought, I mean, because
Speaker 1: he played love tackle this past year from Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: I think he can play tackle. UM six five, three
Speaker 1: thirty one uh over thirty five inch arms. Not a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna move all that well, but uh, he's
Speaker 1: going to Uh he's gonna once he gets his hands
Speaker 1: on you, he's gonna control you, drive you off the screen.
Speaker 1: So uh, to me, I think he's a tackle, but
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how the Raven use him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a guy I haven't said this. I went
Speaker 1: back and I go in the tradition of big Mississippi
Speaker 1: State offensive lineman, and I went Robert Hicks, Gabe Jackson,
Speaker 1: pork chopped Womack. You know, here's another one, this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's the guy three hundred over thirty pounds. He uses
Speaker 1: his mask to his advantage when it comes to creating holes,
Speaker 1: and once he gets that big body going, he can
Speaker 1: cause some problems. So he's a hard guy for defenders
Speaker 1: to do with due to his size. You know, he's
Speaker 1: the one pushing folks around. He's got some power in
Speaker 1: his hands. I think when he hits the defenders there's
Speaker 1: some shock. But he has to be careful because he
Speaker 1: does become over extended. He's a wastebender at times. I
Speaker 1: would not call him with I don't think he has
Speaker 1: nifty feet at all, So he's not going to press
Speaker 1: you with that lateral slide or things that you look
Speaker 1: with those those offensive lineman he was. It was a
Speaker 1: Juco kid that has put himself in position to be
Speaker 1: drafted and here he is. He's been drafted by the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. He had bottom three numbers in the tackle
Speaker 1: position and both the broad jump and then the shuttle
Speaker 1: as well, So it didn't have a great combine at
Speaker 1: five three, seven forty and then a twenty five inch vertical. Now,
Speaker 1: I know, in the third round you're still just looking
Speaker 1: for projections over the combine numbers, but at least there
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily anything to write home about. Now, kind
Speaker 1: of going back to the conversation that Dave was having
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, where does this put us? I mean,
Speaker 1: we're at the end of the third round. You're looking
Speaker 1: forward to pick one twenty three, or excuse me, to
Speaker 1: the fourth round pick here for the Cowboys at one thirteen.
Speaker 1: What are we thinking here? Man? I'm I'm just now.
Speaker 1: You know, it kind of gets away from you when
Speaker 1: the picks start flying, but you kind of reset everything.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of names that intrigue me,
Speaker 1: and I mean the later you go in the draft,
Speaker 1: the harder it is to know how the Cowboys feel.
Speaker 1: But both of the Bryants are still there at tight end.
Speaker 1: You got Jeff skuy Akeem Davis Gaither, Carol Lewis Curtis Weaver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: both so there. Robertson the corner, wasn't he? Yeah, troll
Speaker 1: Lewis was picked. Well, let me take him out of
Speaker 1: the draft pool. Then Brian's guy, James Lynch is still there,
Speaker 1: Yes he is. kJ Hill is still there, Tyler surprising Meek.
Speaker 1: Robertson's still around. Yeah, he tweeted about it. He's gonna
Speaker 1: try really hard. Is that an injury thing, Dane, it's
Speaker 1: a short thing. He had the groin injury. But as
Speaker 1: far as I know, it's more size related than anything. Shoot,
Speaker 1: how about my guy Troy Pride junior him? Well, if
Speaker 1: you're talking about a corner with some link to him,
Speaker 1: damn you Dane. Oh, I so agree with your man.
Speaker 1: And I was wondering if I was alone on the
Speaker 1: Troy Pride Junior man. What about what about Robinson from
Speaker 1: is it from Tulsa? Yeah? Rot, Where's Kevin Turner when
Speaker 1: we need good play? Yeah? I mean that's what I'm saying. Though,
Speaker 1: if you're you know, the guys were talking about like
Speaker 1: Holmes from UCLA or Robertson, those are shorter guys, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're kind of at that point right now,
Speaker 1: and I think there's still safeties on the board that
Speaker 1: could help the kill Boys. But you like Josiah Josiah Scott,
Speaker 1: Josiah Scott, but not I mean no, I mean not
Speaker 1: in the top three rounds. He is one of the
Speaker 1: undersized corners that I do like. But I think it
Speaker 1: shapes up still with Geno Stone, Iowa safety, Kenny Robinson,
Speaker 1: the West Virginia Joint Louis Battlehawk Jr. Reid M. Cavan Wallace.
Speaker 1: I think you still got safeties that could like right now.
Speaker 1: What we're what you're looking for is a combination of things,
Speaker 1: right a guy that could make the team. We're going
Speaker 1: in to day three. We're looking for a guy that
Speaker 1: could make the team. We're looking for traits. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: looking for special teamers. So yeah, I still think they've
Speaker 1: got they've got some nice players to pick from, and
Speaker 1: I mean pick one, Sorry Kyle, but I think there's
Speaker 1: still potential here for somebody who can help you in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and pick at pick one twenty three, depending
Speaker 1: on what you do with it. Yeah, agreed, And I
Speaker 1: think Edge Rusher is still a possibility. Kalee Kareem, who
Speaker 1: hasn't been mentioned yet out of Notre Dame. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that I I kind of tabbed early as one
Speaker 1: of those mid day maybe three day three guys that
Speaker 1: I would like steel. I think he would be a
Speaker 1: steel in the fourth round. Absolutely, And I think you're
Speaker 1: looking at some receivers that are there. I know you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need receiver, but kJ Hill a guy that
Speaker 1: I know, Dave, you are really high. He makes it
Speaker 1: to day three, I would I mean, I don't know when,
Speaker 1: when or where he would play, but I'd love to
Speaker 1: have him. Lucky Foe two still on the board, Darnay
Speaker 1: Holmes from UCLA still on the board. There's some names here, guys.
Speaker 1: Ye A little surprised that, uh, the quarterbacks Jacob Base
Speaker 1: and Jake from Learn taken the day and that was
Speaker 1: hurts make him make it to the fifth something like
Speaker 1: we've always and guys, we've all been together doing this
Speaker 1: for a while, so you understand tomorrow, like say, scouts
Speaker 1: and front offices, they're not sitting in their war rooms,
Speaker 1: but they've seen their board. And I have a feeling
Speaker 1: tomorrow when we get back, we're gonna see those guys
Speaker 1: those things with those picks. Everyone'll say I got value here,
Speaker 1: I got value, I get value here, and they're just
Speaker 1: gonna go down that board and they're gonna pick these
Speaker 1: guys and all these names that we're talking about right
Speaker 1: now are gonna be those guys that are taken early.
Speaker 1: I trust me that. It's like, Wow, I got a
Speaker 1: third round grade on this guy, I gotta take him now.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of teams sitting around with
Speaker 1: third round grades on guys when we get to this
Speaker 1: fourth round and they're just gonna they're gonna pick them
Speaker 1: off there as we get going tomorrow, first thing in
Speaker 1: the morning, let me let me if you're if you're
Speaker 1: with us at eleven oh seven or twelve oh seven,
Speaker 1: if you're in Dame, somewhere in the world, other around
Speaker 1: the world, appreciate thank you guys. If you're with it, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: love you to death. We're thrilled you're here. But if
Speaker 1: you're with us right now, let me give you some
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, because what's gonna happen is Brian brought us,
Speaker 1: is going to log out of here and he's gonna
Speaker 1: go home, and on the drive home, he's gonna start
Speaker 1: pounding the hell out of that cell phone. Get ready.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make about thirty phone calls between now and
Speaker 1: ten am tomorrow, and he's gonna come in here. I
Speaker 1: mean we're not actually gonna be in the same room,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna log in with just the most ridiculous
Speaker 1: curveballs about what we should be expect at the top
Speaker 1: of the fourth. It happens every freaking year and it's
Speaker 1: very fun. I should tune in. I can't wait. Sometimes
Speaker 1: he comes in no one who certain team's gonna pick,
Speaker 1: and it ruins his whole day before the draft. Yeah start,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like yeah, like last year. Yeah, it hurts.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I take this way too seriously, like you guys.
Speaker 1: As we met at Brian gets gets it in his
Speaker 1: head that the pick might not be what he wants.
Speaker 1: I want to say one thing though, before we do
Speaker 1: close this. I know Kyle closes out here tonight. Though.
Speaker 1: I love being with you guys again. I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: missed you for all those draft shows. Jeff, you got
Speaker 1: everybody did a great job. Dang, it's great to have
Speaker 1: you back to man. When we signed out, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what was going to happen at the end. But
Speaker 1: maybe this is not goodbye because we got tomorrow. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of fun. But it is nice
Speaker 1: to be able to work a draft with you guys again.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of the great joys of my career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Glad we got another day. Well,
Speaker 1: and I'll also add to that, Brian, this is the
Speaker 1: first time I've actually gotten to work with you there.
Speaker 1: We worked up behind the Saints back and forth, So
Speaker 1: I mean, that's ecstatic for me. I grew up listening
Speaker 1: to you listening or going to uh maybe sounds or
Speaker 1: something like that. That's fair, that's fair. Well, it's the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm young is probably the better. I'll throw
Speaker 1: that in there. So but yeah, I will sign us
Speaker 1: off tonight. Jeff started things off on the one O
Speaker 1: five three the fans side. We will be back on
Speaker 1: the fan tomorrow. Jeff tell me ten am or no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no at is it noon or is it ten right?
Speaker 1: We're I think I think Jeff and I got a
Speaker 1: pre pregame show and then you guys join on with us,
Speaker 1: so I know we start at ten am tomorrow. Ye
Speaker 1: see that was where I was consumers back and yeah,
Speaker 1: it happens every year to tradition like no other. The
Speaker 1: draft itself is at eleven, though, isn't it central? Eleven Central?
Speaker 1: So me and Jeff were gonna pregame this thing. We're
Speaker 1: gonna throw all these names out there and can confuse everybody.
Speaker 1: You guys are welcome, Yeah, Bill, free to jump off
Speaker 1: you want. H Well, we'll be a part of the
Speaker 1: one oh five three the fan draft coverage tomorrow will
Speaker 1: also be on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are picking, we will be on the social side
Speaker 1: of things too, So that is gonna do it here
Speaker 1: for Day two of the twenty twenty NFL Draft for
Speaker 1: Brian Bronness, for Dane Brugler, for Jeff Cavanaugh and David Helman.
Speaker 1: I'm Kyleeelman saying so long. We'll see you tomorrow morning
Speaker 1: for Day three of the twenty twenty NFL Draft. This
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