WEBVTT - Draft Show: Finding Value On Day 2 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.120 Tway to do this would be to sort of reset 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.600 our boards. And I haven't talked to Kyle Yeoman's yet. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.520 I've talked to Dane and been rudely interrupted by Dave. 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.560 So we'll start with Kyle. Kyle, where do you think 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:14.960 the Cowboys brain is right now? Well, you have to 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.200 look at the defense. You got to look over the 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.639 secondary players that are available, and of course I think 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.599 the board kind of lies out pretty nice for you 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.560 going into day two. You've got some really solid corners 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.320 still there, and Christian Fulton and then even Trevon Diggs 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.120 out of Alabama that are still available. Are they going 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.320 to fall to fifty one? You don't know. But somebody 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.280 asked me today about Antoine Winfield junior, and they said, hey, 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:43.159 what's the chance that a player like him, like Antoine 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.519 Winfield falls to fifty one? And I said, it's more 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.800 likely than Ceedee Lamb falling to seventeen. And that happened. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.280 So you could see something like that happening again. The 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.120 Cowboys got extremely lucky, and round number one they address 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.240 the offense. You can kind of put that behind you 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.480 now unless you really wanted to add an interior offensive lineman. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.120 But I still think that's a Day three pick. You 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.560 gotta go defense with both of these selections. Yeah, I 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.640 think the depth of this draft and you look at 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.520 it's surprising to me though, that you have those defensive 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.960 ends still on the board with epin Sa Grossmatos. You know, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:18.520 I think that you talk about defensive interior with Blacklock, Mattabekee, 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.080 even Davidson from Auburn. I you know, those are guys. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.080 Three quality guys right there on my board with Bond 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.880 the linebacker there, gather Davis from from Apps State as 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.240 a guy. You can talk about linebackers, but look at 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:36.280 the corners and look at the safeties, digs Fulton, I 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.679 have Danzler from Mississippi State. I know a lot of 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.240 people are dinging him because of his speed. I promise 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.560 you guys, I could have got him faster if we'd 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.000 went to Starkville. But you know he's a quality, quality corner. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.160 You watch him cover all these sec receivers. But the safeties, 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:56.240 the safeties, you know, Xavier McKinney, delpit Chin from Southern Illinois. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.559 There's a lot of quality. And I think that Stephen Jones, 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.880 you know everybody's asking us on our shows, Hey, you're 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.600 gonna go up. You're gonna try and find a way 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.280 to go up in this job. I think if he 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.640 sits right there, he's gonna fall have one of these 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.440 defensive players fall right in his lap, and it might 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.079 be the guy that he absolutely wants. You're gonna have 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.519 a quality guy at fifty one. It's almost a certain 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.440 just looking at top twenty players in this round. Even 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.400 if you stay put at fifty one, you don't give 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.440 up any draft capital. I agree completely, Brian. I think 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.920 fifty one's a sweet spot for some of those safeties 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.400 to fall. It might not be delp It or McKinney, 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.920 but you mentioned Chin. There's also Kyle Dugger in that conversation, 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.040 and then Antoine Winfield Junior. There's plenty of options. Dane, 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.400 how does your board set up going into Day two 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.960 and how does that sort of jive with what the 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.720 Cowboys may be hoping to see. Yeah, we're gonna see 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:45.840 a lot of running backs off the board here pretty quickly, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.600 I think with JK. Dobbins still around, DeAndre Swift, Jonathan Taylor, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.520 and then I mean talking about these dvs. We didn't 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.240 have a single safety in the first round and not 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.520 surprised by that. I didn't have a single first round 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.160 grade on any of these safeties. But this is the 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.960 sweet spot for a safety. Now, starting in the second round, 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.799 we could see five, maybe even six off the board 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.840 and the next forty picks and then these corners that 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.240 Brian mentioned with Fulton and with Diggs, and you know 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.440 Diggs especially, is that a player that in if the 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.359 first sixteen picks played out a certain way, could they 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.440 have considered Digs at seventeen and would he be available 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.440 at fifty one? Is that a possibility? So a really 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.280 interesting dynamic with these corners here in the second round, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.960 how early they come off the board. But that's when 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.520 you see at Jordan Brooks off the board in the 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.680 first round. You see in Noah igbinogaty guys that you 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.280 didn't expect. That's going to push other good players to 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.160 the second round. And this draft is full of really 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.440 good players. I think the fact that yesterday we saw 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.360 four or five trades, only one trade included Day two picks, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.000 and that tells you with the general managers in this 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.840 league think of the Day two talent this year. They 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.400 did not want to sacrifice Day two picks because they 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.600 know they're gonna come up with starters tonight with their picks. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.280 Dave Hellman, how are you feel feeling kind of going 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.840 into day two here, with what the plans might be 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:11.920 and with what the player pool looks like? This is 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.440 a perfect setup for a coward like me. Guys, I'm 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:20.200 glad to see you haven't changed, Dave. Self awareness is key, good, 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.760 old Dave. If I'm sitting here like Brian brought us 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.560 and I want to give up everything, please do No? 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.240 Why would I do that? Lo? I'm just look like, guys, look, 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.080 let's take a look at really what's facing the Cowboys here. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.359 You've got eighteen picks to go until you pick again. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.760 You've taken care of your receiver, and let's just consider 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.719 some of these names that we sort of touched on 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.480 that are probably gonna go soon here. Whether it's DeAndre Swift, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.440 whether it's Ezra Cleveland, JK. Dobbins out of Ohio State. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.279 You got some receivers, T Higgins, maybe Michael Pittman. Is 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.520 it starting to sound like some really, some really good 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.240 defenders are gonna get pushed down the board. Yeah, that's 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.080 what it sounds like to me. And you think about 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.120 guys we know the Cowboys have had their eye on, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.679 whether it's Xavier McKinney, whether it's Grant Delpit, Christian Fulton. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.160 The list goes on and on. Somebody they really like 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.920 has a great shot to be there. And I'm just 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.800 gonna sit and let it come to me. I don't 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.520 have to do anything crazy. Let's let's play a little 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.440 game here for everybody. Can I ask you a question? 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.600 How does your board you got to dare you? Oh? Yeah, sure? Yeah? 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.599 I mean I'm curious about who you've got left on 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.000 your board. So my only guy with better than a 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.920 second round grade, I liked Zach bond as a one two. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.080 I'd like to thank Dane Brugler for paving the way 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.279 for all of us to be cowards and not have 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.200 to commit to a round grade be able to split 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.880 the difference there. So Zach Bonn at Wisconsin's my final 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.680 one two, And then I got a whole bunch of 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.360 twos that I think that the Cowboys should be really 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.240 happy if they end up picking them at fifty one. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.839 And that's the game I want to play. I'm going 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.120 to name a player, and you tell me if you'd 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.880 be happy to have him on your football team at 0:05:55.880 --> 0:06:03.600 fifty one. Grant delpittlate, Yes, yes, Xavier McKinny Diggs very much, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:08.839 relutely Christian folk yep, sure, yeah, Antoine Winfield yep, yep. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.880 Questionable Ross Blacklock. Wow. Wait wait, we'll go back and 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.119 we'll we'll go after Brianon's second Ross Blacklock. Yes, happy 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.960 with Blacklock. Yes at fifty one. Okay, you two were 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:26.120 gross mottos m at fifty one for it? Yes, yep, no, 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.760 absolutely not even at fifty one. I don't like. I'm 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.560 glad to see somebody else has joined the party here. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.400 I don't like up in this. I'm just saying I 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.680 ran through eight or nine names. That will how many 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.120 picks away? Is it? Dave? Like? Until those names start 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.640 disappearing really really quickly. You don't got a panic about anything. 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.720 It's eighteen picks and you just read off nine and 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:51.000 we didn't name a single offensive player. Nope, so I didn't. Yeah. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.120 I'm feeling mighty fine right now. Yeah, now, Brian who 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.240 are you hating on there? I was hating on Winfield, 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.920 but not hating on Winfield. I'm hating on Winfield only 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.480 because I'd have other safeties I have three safeties I'd 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.200 rather have than him. I'd rather have McKinney, I'd rather 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.839 have Delpit, and I'd rather have Chin. Those are the 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:19.160 three we haven't mentioned, Ashton Davis or Terrell Burgess. Burgesses 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:21.680 let me tell you a little something. Burgess is a 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.960 third round dream. Yes he is, okay dream. Whether or 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:26.840 not he's gonna be there, that's a different question. Dane 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.559 actually did the full leg work of making a mock draft, 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.640 which I know how long that takes, so Dane, you 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.360 have my thoughts and prayers. It took like three and 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.520 a half hours to do a first round mock and 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.160 then you had to do a two three, so I'm 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.720 sure it took eight hours. Uh. I just ran a 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.239 simulator and I ended up with Grossmatos and Terrell Burgess, 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:44.960 and I threw a party, and Dane, I saw in 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.720 your mock draft what you had the cowboys do and 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.560 the party might be even bigger than the one that 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.720 I had. If it plays out like that, who'd you 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.520 give him and how realistic do you think it is? 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.200 I gave him Trevon Digs, and Diggs isn't going to 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.440 be for everybody? Now? Does he make it? To fifty one. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.920 I don't know about that, but I think Tarrell Burgess 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.560 in the third round would be a home run at safety. Well, 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.320 I like the game, first year starter. I think this 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:13.680 team what they're looking for culture wise, fit wise, scheme wise, 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.680 Terrell Burgess has a lot for what they're looking for 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.160 it in the third round. I think that's where he's 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.480 gonna go, somewhere in the in the top eighty picks. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.240 And we got the Cincinnati Bengals who are on the 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.880 clock right now. It's rolling down. Obviously they've already taken 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.080 Joe Burrow in this draft, but the Bengals are on 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.840 the clock. You won't miss a pick here on one 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.960 O five three the fan in Dallas, Cowboys dot com 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.920 and now Kyle, which you were hating on epines. So 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.600 weren't you as that what you were doing. Yeah, I'm 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.480 not as high on him as normal. Now. I do 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.600 have him at twenty six on my board. That's a 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.720 little bit high, but I just I don't like him. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.559 I don't tell you for the Cowboys. Got him tifically 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:53.120 for the Cowboys, guys, specifically for the Cowboys, but keep 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.160 him at fifty one. Don't like him welcome to the 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.640 Draft show. Yeah, hey, that's okay, keep me honest. He 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.560 had a horrid combine guy. Oh, by combine scares me 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.560 a lot. Oh. You know there's two different guys on 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.959 this broadcast with me right now that I've done a 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.360 podcast with We called it trust the Tape, Kyle. We 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.680 we like to trust, which I did, and I gave 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.480 Eponesta first round grade then after made him a second 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.800 round grade. So I didn't trust the tape either. But 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.600 I'm thinking about fifty one. His tip was good and 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.679 that's why I have him high there. And can I 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.200 switch the conversation real quick to what are the Bengals 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.640 gonna do here to kick off the night at thirty three? Uh? 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.360 They gotta help Joe Burrow, Right, So we're looking at tackle, 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:37.199 we're looking at receiver. Any of the players still available 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.400 really stand out to you as worthy of the thirty 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.920 third pick in a direction the Bengals might go, I 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.320 think this is will they take Mems? I think this, 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.439 and I think this is what I think the Bengals. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.880 It's kind of some scout world is talking about Mems, 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.560 and I have a feeling that Cincinnati will will make 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.679 him their pick. I would worry about Tee Higgins still 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.240 out there too. See Higgins is But I'm just saying, Okay, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.600 they're gonna go why receiver, I've been better than both 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.760 I just heard. I just yeah, Pittman, I do too. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.320 I'm with you. I'm just saying with the Bengals, it 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.320 seems to be that Mims was a name that the 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.120 scouts kept talking about. Well, and the other thing with 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.679 the Bengals, their wide receiver coach, former Baylor wide receiver coach. 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.720 They know a little bit about Denzel Mims there, so 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.440 that would be one to keep an eye on. How 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.200 about that, Josh Jones, That's who I mocked. You know 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.079 you get your tackle. They took Jonah Williams in the 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.439 first round last year. Get more tackle, help help Joe Burrow. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.120 I think that's what this pick needs to be about, 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.439 whether it's offensive tackle or receiver. Keep your number one 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.400 pick upright. The I know, I know Jonah Williams is 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.360 coming back from an injury. They should have him. But 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.240 I mean the Cowboys are proof like having great having 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.280 a lot of great offensive lineman's never a bad thing. Now, Dave, 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.560 are you more on board with offensive line for them? 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.440 Than receiver because of where the quarterback went to school. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.000 Are you more about protecting that guy than a different quarterback. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.360 Maybe Joe Burrow could have gone to Ole Miss. And 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.880 I still still think it's smart to protect an investment. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.319 I mean, you drafted the guy number one overall. He's 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:01.920 not gonna be able to throw the ball at anybody 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.000 if he's on his back. I mean, I know Aj 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.600 Green's had injuries, but he's still hanging around. And Tyler 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.040 Boyd has developed into a pretty damn good receiver. So 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.920 I get that. You can always use more weapons, but 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.320 protect your number one pick. That's what I would do. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.160 Is Josh Jones the number one offensive tackle left. I 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.120 mean I think out of all the tackles, maybe over 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:28.199 Prince Tega or Cleveland, maybe I still have Jones higher 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:29.920 than all three of those. Yeah, he's number one on 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.079 my board. That's left. You know, as far as I 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.160 kind of feel like that, that might be a good 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.360 route to go. So having said that, where there's a 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.120 debate about who the top tackle is, there's a debate 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.120 about who the top receiver is, and you could use 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.720 all those things. If you're the Bengals, there's three minutes 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.640 on the clock now and the pick's not in. Do 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.679 you take phone calls? Yeah? I would have been taking 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.600 phone calls what the last twenty hours, But I would 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.160 have guessed we would get a five minute soliloquy from 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.320 Brian about how trading up to the top of the 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.440 second is like the fun the most fun thing you 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.440 can do. Oh. I just kind of thought, Dave, you 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.360 know what's gonna happen. It is a fun thing to do. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.600 But I was thinking that these teams all saw all 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.240 the value of these those second round guys, and they 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.320 were going to treat this like that fourth round we get, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:12.800 you know, the third day, where all of a sudden 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.120 it's like, no, you're not trading in. I'm taking this guy, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.840 this guy, this guy, this guy. You know, That's what 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.040 I thought was gonna happen. Here. Bengals are taking a 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.840 little bit longer than I thought they would, to be 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.560 honest with you, and you're a trade up guy, Brian, 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.200 I've become a trade down guy. Well, I know the Giants. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.240 I know the Giants wanted to get out of this 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.000 because the Giants don't have a third round pick and 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.000 they have round to wait. I was here and they 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.840 were trying to collect some things. So when we get down, 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.240 the Giants pick, but see if that thing gets moved along. Yeah. Well, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.160 the way that Zach Taylor's family is kind of surrounding 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.840 him in his makeshift war room kind of makes me 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.720 think that they're not trading out of this, So it 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.800 would be after Indianapolis to where they would make that trade. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.520 But I mean, even they said earlier, I know, ian 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.480 Rapperport kind of came out and said that the Bears 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.640 were looking to move up very quickly in this round. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.520 So I think you're gonna see some movement a little 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.720 bit more so than we saw yesterday early in the round. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.319 They like that they like Chin the safety, Yeah, that's 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.440 who they like. I do like the idea of just 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.280 seeing what their boar rooms look like, or the coach's 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.439 house looks like, and if the family is there, assume 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.120 that they're gonna make the pick and that they're gonna 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.440 if they're gonna trade it, they wouldn't have the family there. 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.520 So they do say that the pick is in, and 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.160 they've got a camera show in te Higgins, the Clemson 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.920 wide receiver, at his house, but they have not announced 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.520 that the pick is te Higgins. I guess they're just 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.240 going to a guy that they thought maybe might go 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.840 in the first round and showing us his house, and 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.240 then we'll see who the actual pick is going to be. 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.199 But the Bengals pick is in. We won't be getting 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.680 get Dell today, will we. We'll get announcements from somebody else. 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.880 I thought I thought he carries through the second round. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.680 He announced that he opened he opened the draft. So yeah, 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.560 a regular on a regular draft, he does the second round. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.920 But maybe they changed it up this time. I was 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.199 gonna say, I'm just relieved. One benefit of doing this 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.520 thing remotely is nobody has to sit in the damn 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.120 green room, so good good for them it. Also, I 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.800 was amazed at how smoothly it went yesterday. Obviously I 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.520 didn't have audio because we're broadcasting, but it didn't seem 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.440 like there were any hiccups or glitches, and I know 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.920 I had them broadcasting, So the media struggled with it 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.839 more than the NFL did, which is pretty cool. So 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.160 the pick is in. Yeah, pick is in, and it 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.680 looks like we'll get the announcement here shortly as they're 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.000 running the sweet little graphic that says the pick is 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.960 in now, and here's Roger Goodell. With the thirty third 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:29.920 pick in the two twenty draft, Cincinnati Bengals select Tim Higgins, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.800 heide receiver Clemson. Here you go short, wait for te 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.400 Higgins and we will talk about that pick, how he 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.360 fits with Cincinnati. Will get to all of that when 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.440 we return. We will be right back. You're listening to 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.680 the twenty twenty NFL Draft one oh five three the 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:51.080 fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. So this is where 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.400 we'll pick things up here on the Dallas Cowboys dot 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.760 Com side and Tie Higgins. Brian, you mentioned earlier that 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.640 Denzel Mims would have been a little bit of a 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:04.600 it would have been a different fit overall with the 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.320 Dallas Cowboys, but or excuse me, with the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.680 But Brian, with the Bengals not taking Mims and instead 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.200 of going with T Higgins here, what do you think 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:14.840 about that one? No, I like to pick. I mean, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.760 Higgins was one of my I did fifty one for 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.320 one oh five three, and he was my seventeenth player left. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.960 I mean that was my seventeenth guy. So I was happy. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.800 I thought his name was gonna get called last night. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.440 I think people are bashing this kid for a lot 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.560 of wrong reasons here. I mean, I see a guy 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.200 that will go get the football. I'll see a guy 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.280 that run at all levels. I'll see a guy that'll 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.920 separate and make some plays down the field. I'll tell 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.040 you what, though, Joe Burrow has to be happy to 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.440 have a guy like this guy and an AJ Green. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.080 I mean, at least throw the ball too. We saw 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.280 what he did at LSU throwing with really quality wide receivers. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.080 This kid could go get it. I like this pick 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.320 a lot. I think it's interesting that they draft him, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.000 and I think he's He's not on the same level 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.800 as AJ Green, but stylistically there are some similarities there. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.760 Tall lean athlete. I think would you like about Higgins 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.800 is the reflexes, the catch point skills, his ability to 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:10.600 turn those erratic passes into completions. So with te Higgins, 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:15.720 I mean some of the some of the worries are warranted. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.400 The speed is not great. Play strength is a question 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.520 mark for me. But when you focus on what he 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.120 does really well, that's where he can be a weapon 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.840 for you. And I really like the way that when 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.240 you watch Burrow on tape, if Burrow gets man coverage 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:34.040 on a fly route. Burrow's really happy to make that throw. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.920 And I think if you take aj Green and you 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.000 take T Higgins, you've got a quarterback that's willing to 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.680 throw a fifty fifty ball. That sounds like a lot 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.480 of fun to me, you know, absolutely sounds like a 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.320 lot of fun. But the fact that Higgins goes before 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.160 Denzel Man's kind of I think it plays in favor 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.400 for the Cowboys. Like David said, when the pick was made, 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.160 that's good news because now you've got another receiver that's 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.920 going to go before fifty one. I know Higgins probably 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.680 would have been in that category regardless, but the more 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.040 oftensive players that we see early on, the better I 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.639 was gonna say. I mean, I said it earlier, I 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.240 would have drafted an offensive tackle. But as long as 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.600 the names coming up on the board are offensive players, 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.440 I don't really care. Let's just push these defenders down 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.960 the board and we'll all be happy. We've got other 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.800 wide receivers out there too. Michael Pittman Junior. That's there. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.000 The offensive tackles, like we talked about a little bit 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.680 a little bit earlier with Ezrad Cleveland, Josh Jones, they're 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.440 all in that conversation. The more and more, like you said, 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.640 more and more we see these offensive guys, the more 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.160 exciting it gets in terms of fifty one being just 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:37.000 a top notch starting potential. Day one Cowboys pick Indianapolis 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.040 is my kind of team because they didn't need all 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.399 the time in the world. They were like, hey, we're up, Yeah, 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.960 we got our guy. We'll pick him. A feel for 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.080 this one. I thought Michael Pittman would be the perfect fit. 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.080 They're looking for that power forward at receiver, and that's 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.679 Michael Pittman. He's got the size, he's a better athlete 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.639 than giving credit for, and he fits culture wise what 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:05.040 they want captain special teams guy. Uh, Michael Pittman I 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:06.880 think would be a perfect fit for what they're looking 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.399 for on offense. I think that's a perfect, perfect explanation 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.320 and just the fit that he has overall, just the 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.119 power that he has. Well, it looks like that Michael 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.240 Pittman is the pick. Oh so good job, there got 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.000 one right in my Monk draft. There you go, Yeah, 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.680 Michael Pittman the USC watch. I'll tell you how old 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.760 I am. I scouted his dad. His dad as a 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.720 heck of a football player too. Went a Super Bowl 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.760 with Tampa. So yeah, I mean it's ah this guy 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.040 right here, I mean you watch him play and he 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.320 goes and gets the football, big physical guy that makes 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.040 things happen. I'm a big fan of this this pick. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:43.320 I actually had him better than men than twenty twenty. 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:47.560 NFL Draft continues on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.800 five three The Fan. All right, welcome back, Jeff Kavanov. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.680 Bryan brought us from one oh five three the Fan 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.640 along with Kyle Yeoman's, Dave Hellman and Dane Bruegler with 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:02.520 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Is we have Michael Pittman USC 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.760 wide receiver off the board to the Indianapolis Colts. And 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.399 we were just talking about, Dane, how kind of you 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.240 put in the call for this one and thought it 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:15.120 was the right fit, perfect fit. And this is who 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.280 I mocked to the Colts in my mock draft last night. 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.600 I just when you look with the Colts offense, t 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.600 Y Higgins or excuse me, t Y Hilton still can 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.200 burn you down the field, but they need that power 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.199 forward on the outside, a guy who can go up 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.280 and get the football and both schematically and then off 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.560 the field, he's a team captain, a guy who will 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.159 play special teams. He's just a natural fit with that 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.399 culture and what they're looking for on offense with Philip Rivers, 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.119 I love Pittman. He was my fifth receiver in this 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.600 draft class. He was actually the first receiver I watched, 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.840 and when I was done, I started asking people. I 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:51.600 was like, why haven't I heard about this guy more? 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.920 Six to four and moves like he does, back shoulder, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.320 go up and get it, track it. He's just to me, 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.800 he's just a really polished, really solid player that's not 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.000 going to disappoint. You tabbed him as a pet cat 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.520 the first Draft Show episode of the season, so I 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.359 think you were right on top of it from the beginning. 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.680 But one hundred and one receptions from thirty three targets, 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.639 and the biggest stat to me that sticks out with 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.200 him is the fact that he forced fourteen miss tackles. 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.359 He's tough to bring down, and I love the power 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.560 forward basketball reference that Dane was making because he is 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.840 just that. He's so tough and he's so slippery at 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.439 the same time. I think he's a great fit for 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.240 that Colt's offense and Dave Hellman. I know, it's very 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.160 happy as we've gone receiver receiver to open the round. 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:34.840 If we can get about eight more of those, that'd 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.320 be nice. Huh, keep him coming man, Which, ironically, I 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.439 think the Cowboys really liked Pittman and Higgins obviously. I 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.639 mean there, let's pick thirty three, thirty four. A lot 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.400 of people are gonna like him. But no, I mean 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.600 I think you and I were both joking on Twitter today. 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.760 Is spent most of the spring wondering, you know, how 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.040 the Cowboys could get a receiver to fall to him, 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:57.000 and all of a sudden, I really don't care. Yeah, 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.760 the answer was waiting the first round. Yeah, Detroit is 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.000 on the clock now at thirty five. We've got t 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.880 Higgins off the board at thirty three to Cincinnati. At 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.720 thirty four, we've got Michael Pittman Junior from USC the 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.959 receiver going to Indianapolis. Caliber Collision is proud to sponsor 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.840 the Dallas Cowboys and to recognize the frontline workers keeping 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.120 a safe. Caliber Collision restoring the rhythm of your life. 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.520 Visit Caliber Collision dot com to see how Caliber's restoring 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.320 medical workers and first responders. As we're looking at Bob Quinn, 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:31.760 the Lions executive VP and general manager Dane Needs guesses 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.560 Detroit Lions on the clock. I'd love to see one 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.320 of the running backs here. I think it was up 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.440 to the Lions. They would adapt what the Tennessee Titans 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.280 did last year. Just run the ball down your throat 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.840 and set up easy place for your quarterbacks. So only 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.760 one running back off the board still, Jonathan Taylor's available, JK. Dobbins, 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.760 DeAndre Swift. Would they go with one of these running 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.760 backs to add to the backfield and really help open 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.520 up the offense. Yeah? What about an edge here too? 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.960 I mean that's something that we think about with the Lions, 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.679 you know, and a a guy that with this coach, 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:09.160 with Matt, with Patricia, his ability to play with multiple fronts. 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:10.960 He needs a guy that could kind of do those 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:12.679 kinds of things. Maybe maybe we'll see one of these 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:19.639 guys go here's Roger. The second round, with the thirty 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:23.720 fifth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Detroit 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:29.760 Lions select DeAndre Swift, running back Georgia. That is why 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.399 Dane Brugler is the best there is, the best there was, 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.360 and the best there ever will be. As DeAndre Swift 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.320 is off the board, a good number of people's top 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:43.040 running back going to the Detroit Lions. There the guy 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.280 that has the uncanny ability to make you miss. And 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.040 like I said, I think the Lions really want to 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.600 use that running back, use the run game to help 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.960 out their quarterback, to help out everybody else in the offense. 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.119 And they can do that with DeAndre Swift, who I mean, 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.080 I think he's one of the top thirty players in 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.920 this draft, but here he is available early second round, 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.520 tremendous value for Detroit. You're creeping towards the Cowboy pick, 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.919 where now it's the New York Giants on the clock. 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.760 The hated New York Giants are on the clock now, 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:16.480 and obviously they have already taken Andrew Thomas there in 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.840 the first round. So as we're trying to get a 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.120 handle on the direction they might go and the things 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:24.000 that they could use to improve that roster, Brian, you 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.400 got to handle on that. Yeah, I'll tell you what. 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.360 This was a pick that they were talking about trading, 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.520 but with the pick now being in, I kind of 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.440 feel like that that they they're gonna go a couple 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.800 of different ways here that the Giants are the offensive 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.240 tackle they dressed out last night. I mentioned now the edge, 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.800 what are they going to do with that wide receivers 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:47.040 of possibility here? Even they were talking about center and 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.440 safety as well as a couple of different positions. So 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.960 you know, I keep mentioning those guys the grossmato's the 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.680 epinessas we'll see what Dave Gettleman goes. But to keep 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.320 an eye on the edge, wide receivers, safeties and maybe 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:04.119 even a center here. Is it fair to guess that, 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.040 you know, much like we're talking about the Cowboys, a 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.480 lot of these you know, everybody's like, oh man, we 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.720 feel really good about what's available. There's no need to 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:13.600 try to do something crazy and get into the top 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:15.560 of this round. I think so, I mean, I thought 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.680 I saw I think it was a Schefter tweet where 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.399 he said somebody in the NFL said something about this 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.680 is the deepest second or third round he's ever seen, 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:25.879 and there could be as many Pro bowlers in the 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.200 second round as there is in the first. And maybe 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.640 we feel that to some extent every year. I think 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.000 when you do the work, you have a lot of 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.440 guys that you end up really liking. But it does 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.520 feel better this year. I think my board looks pretty 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.439 stacked up in the second and third rounds. Does that 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:43.280 hold true for everybody else? Yeah? No, I feel really good. 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.480 I mean when I was typing all the guys that 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.400 were still available on my board, I was feeling like, man, 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.440 this is not there's not reaching here. There's like quality 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:53.359 throughout this year. I think the Lions so far, I've 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.040 had a pretty good draft, by the way, with Akuta 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.080 and then Swift, I mean, I think they've hit a 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.440 couple of nice picks here. But yeah, that the depth 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.000 of the draft overall, especially in that second round, is 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:08.000 pretty remarkable, especially with some of these defensive guys. And 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.040 I'm a little worried that the Giants are gonna probably 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.240 take one of those safeties that the Cowboys are looking at, 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.879 whether it be McKinney or delp it here, because I mean, 0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.200 they need some help in that secondary. That was obvious 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.639 last night. And I think if Okuda maybe would have 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.240 fallen a one more pick to fall out of the 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.960 Lions lap, maybe they would have taken him instead of 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.399 an offensive tackle. But I mean, I think overall, you 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.520 look here as these next couple of picks You've got 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.920 the Giants that could use a safety, the Panthers that 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.280 could use a safety, and then the Dolphins who could 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.280 use some defensive lion help. So I think there's a 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.360 potential for a run here defensively. But like you guys 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.200 are saying, I think a lot of those guys could 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.480 end up being Pro Bowlers and just aren't in the 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.320 first round because of the depth that's there. No why 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.920 you just wished a bunch of defensive picks though out there. 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.440 It's kind of message. Really, see it happening, is all 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.439 it is. I'm just throwing that out there. Guy, how 0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.560 you're being kind of a bummer tonight? You really are. 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.560 I'm sorry, bad mood. I don't know. I'm about what 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:05.960 That's the thing. I'm in a great mood. It's Draft day. 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:12.000 There's nothing vibe. Then four straight offensive picks, We're fine. 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.919 I wonder if there's I wonder if there's anything that 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.960 the Cowboys could do tonight that would offset what they 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.119 did yesterday, because I can't remember the last time I 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:23.919 don't even want to think about that. I can't remember 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.959 the last time that the silence during the draft was 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.840 celebratory as opposed to shock. Because I know we've been 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:33.560 there a couple of times in shock without a lot 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.080 of words to say after a cowboy pick, but not 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.400 in the same way we were after the Cedee Lamp pick. 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.000 Y'all's audio yesterday was one of my favorite things to 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.200 go back and watch, just the pure giggles from Cavanaugh 0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.240 and then Brian exclaiming to the world that they did it. 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.360 I thought that was perfect. What was your guys' reaction? 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.240 Was it similar? We cracked open Miller lights? Is what happened? 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.880 Oh so you guys probably did it actually better than 0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.919 we did. That's awesome. I don't think we were as 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.040 animated as y'all though. Well, we just we wanted to 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:06.760 believe that somebody would draft for just their boards, play 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.280 the best player. We were just all week long, we 0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.560 on the radio, we've been talking about Okay, get ready, 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.040 it's about need. In the first round. They always take need. 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.959 Everybody takes need, and we were trying to prepare all 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.159 our listeners that that was going to be the case, 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.639 and they did something that I didn't think they were 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.880 gonna do. Let me let me throw this earway, bright guy, 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.960 because I don't get to do radio with you as 0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:31.120 often as I used to. Do you think that that 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:35.000 signifies a philosophical change with this new coaching staff, or 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.680 do you think Ceedee Lamb was just that obvious that 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.199 even if Jason Garrett had been the head coach, they 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.040 would have done it anyway. Yeah, maybe the fact that 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.040 the coaches weren't in the room, or maybe they didn't 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.199 have a chance to bend somebody's ear, you know, I 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.760 think Jerry and Stephen and you know what I learned 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.200 was there was this was one of the best discussions 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.320 they had about a player, you know. I mean, they 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.520 really talked themselves through this one. And maybe it wasn't 0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.359 a bunch of guys, maybe there wasn't a bunch of 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.440 influencing going on, but they had to tag on their 0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.439 board and the six at the stack, you know, in 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.200 that sixth overall spot, and that's you know, when it's 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.439 like that, man, it's easy to see, you know, and 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.280 so good for them. But I think a lot of 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.679 it had a lot of not many voices in the 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.879 room on that one. I wonder how much of that 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.320 is one of the positives of not having continuity, because 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.760 continuity meant that you had a lot of voices that 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.560 were trusted by the front office, that were trusted by 0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.520 Jerry Jones, and if they were interested in players, they 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.520 were interested in players, and he would listen to it. 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.240 And I wonder if when you get a brand new 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.080 head coach, if he doesn't just come in and go, 0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.359 I just got here, Yeah, who's the top player, who's 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.160 the best guy on the board. We'll figure it out. 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.680 Bill Parcells did that when he first came to us. 0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:43.840 He sat back in that first draft oh three and 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.920 watched everybody work. And that's you know, he just said, Okay, 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.040 I'm an No. Four. He tore you up. Then he 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.000 tore yeah exactly, and then No. Five I tore him back, 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.760 and then I was out of a job. But but that, 0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.240 you know, that's where I think that you know, coaches 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.080 are smart if they come in and say, okay, let's 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.440 see how these guys going to operate. And the head 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.280 coach of Dallas Cowboys does have some opinion. He does, 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.240 whether you want to take it or not about personnel. 0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:08.800 So now it is the New York Giants on the clock, 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.680 and here is Roger Goodell, Specialist Smith and thank you 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.560 to all our service members both here and around the world. 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.160 We cannot thank you enough for what you do and 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.880 what you continue to do in these uncertain times. Thank you. 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.200 With the thirty six pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:35.400 the New York Giants select Xavier McKinney, defensive back Alabama. Boo. 0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.440 Giants love taking those Bama safeties at the top of 0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:46.280 the second round. Landon Collins. You know, never really thought 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.560 that McKinney was a good player, so I'm really worried 0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.080 about that one. So that's that's probably the first Cowboys 0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.720 target off the board here in the second round, as 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.640 Xavier McKinney will be headed to the New York Giants 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.080 and you get to deal with him a couple of 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:04.440 times a year. Who is the biggest Xavier McKinney fan 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:08.440 who wants to go scouting report on McKinney fired at him, Dane, 0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.040 You know, he is my top safety. I do have 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.680 some questions about him holding up in coverage, but this 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:18.680 is a player who had ten turnover worthy plays the 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.320 last two years, talking about forced fumbles and interceptions. I 0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.120 think he's a better run defender than in pass coverage. 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.560 But this is an all around safety who is very smart. 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.960 The coach is good about for him in Alabama. I 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.680 think there's a lot to like about him as he 0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.640 projects to the next level. I don't know that he's 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.960 ever going to be a Pro Bowl level player, but 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.880 he's gonna be a solid starter for a long time. 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:43.760 Anybody wanted to go up for him, Oh, absolutely not, 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:47.200 not with what's available. Although I will say I wouldn't 0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:51.920 be surprised if he was their top guy heading into today, 0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.760 And that doesn't mean they expected him to fall. But 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.640 we heard whispers that they might have taken him seventeen 0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.920 in the right set of circumstances, or maybe in a 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.200 trade back to the twenties. So if they liked him 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.320 that much, it's a reasonable guest that he would have 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.880 been one of their top guys tonight. Um. I don't 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.560 think it was ever realistic to think he lasted that long, 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.800 but it still hurts to see him go after just 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.880 four picks. Yeah. I spent a lot of time yesterday Dave, thinking, man, 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.280 this is going to come down to aj Terrell for 0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.240 the Cowboys or but then you had the Rugs pick, 0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.040 and then you had the kin Law pick, and it 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.440 was like, well wait, wait, wait a second. Here it 0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.200 went from being. It went from like planning for a 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.000 worst case to scenario to like do it? Dare I 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:37.040 dream very quickly somewhere yeah, somewhere around pick twelve. It's 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.120 time for the New England Patriots at number thirty seven. 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.320 Here is the commission in the twenty twenty NFL Draft 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:48.360 in New England Patriots like Kyle Duggar defensive back nor 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.800 Rhyne Okay Dane, tell me about Kyle Dugger because I 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.880 will tell you, out of the top one hundred players 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.960 in this draft, he's the only one. And I tried. 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.400 I've tried tweeting the school. I tried, but I couldn't 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.120 get the all twenty two. So I had to try 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.080 to grade him from the blimp cam and I'm not 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.480 comfortable with that. So tell me about Kyle Dugger. You 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.600 have to look past the dcal and the helmet because 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.560 Division two here, so the competition is not exactly what 0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.360 you want. But he was a big time player at 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.280 the D two levels. I know some teams looked at 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:20.040 him as even a linebacker, so we'll have to see 0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:23.760 how the Patriots use him. Really rangey player, he can cover, 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.240 he can run, He's a big time punt returner at 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.840 the D two level as well. So a little older 0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.080 than you want for a player, I just turned twenty 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.840 four years old, but the talent level, I don't have 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.440 a question. This isn't just a late bloomer who ended 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.080 up at the D two level, but he is a 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.240 big time playmaker and certainly worthy of a top forty pick. 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.200 All right, So there you go. That's New England. The 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.000 Carolina Panthers are on the clock at number thirty eight, 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.520 and we will have that pick for you here in 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.720 just a little bit. You are listening to the twenty 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.040 twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three the Fan 0:32:55.120 --> 0:33:00.520 and Dallas Cowboys dot Com bank. You're on the internet 0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:03.480 side of things. Back to back safety is going in 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.040 the order between the Giants and the Patriots. Xavier McKinney. 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.960 Kyle Dugger now off the board and continuing that conversation 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.480 on Kyle Dugger and looking past the logo on the 0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.480 side of the helmet. A late bloomery. I mean he 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.120 started at five six all the way through the early 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.480 parts of his high school career and then its senior year, 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.080 he all of a sudden spurred it up to six 0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.720 foot one and then that's where he ended up going. 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.920 But just an extreme athlete and the guy who's gonna 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.560 impact the Patriots. This is such a Patriots type of 0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:34.640 pick though, to be honest, that it just fits that mold. Yeah, 0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:38.200 you know the question I have for you guys is that, Okay, 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.400 of of the of Dugger and Windfield, who are you 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.480 going to take? Who? Those short? Those short? And you 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.280 have to think about, Oh, is this are we in 0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.440 a situation where Minnesota or lelnor Ryan or is this 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.240 it is Dugger the better player? Dugger's the better player. 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.680 I think Dugger's a better player, honest day. We actually no, 0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.400 I don't, No, I don't. It's still Windfield. I keep 0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.920 getting scared by the hype, but I don't understand. Don't 0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.800 be Why Why should I be scared by? That is 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:08.359 the youngest old school scout I've ever seen in my life, 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:14.360 the youngest scared school dude. I sorry, like Antoine Winfield, 0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.040 but five nine should scare you? Am I crazier? Did 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.800 Tyrone Matthew not just get named all decade? I'm pretty 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:24.920 sure he did. Oh man, you're talking, Come on, so 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:26.799 you're telling me he's the honey badger. You're telling me 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:32.359 he has to be the honey badger to his dad 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.400 was short. He played fourteen years in the league and 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:41.800 was a solid starting at a different position. That's fair, okay. 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:46.640 Antoine Winfield looks reliable in coverage, has good ball skills, 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.200 and looks like he wants to hit the crap out 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.320 of you like he. Don't get me wrong here, Antoine 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.520 Winfield is a very good player. I just when you 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.919 compare him to some of these other safeties, I would 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.759 rather have a Dugger, a delt Fit, McKinney, Jeremy Chin. 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.799 I would take Antone Winfield somewhere here in the second round, 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.240 just not over some of some of these other safeties. 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:09.920 We can agree or disagree, Like the Cowboys do a 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.920 lot of things right, they do a lot of things wrong. 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.040 They're not right about everything. But I am. I am 0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:18.320 wholeheartedly on board with the idea that I want players 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.239 that have done it at the highest level. I want 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.480 the guy that's been to the horseshoe or the swamp. 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.440 I don't want Leonora rhyn No offense to Kyle Dugger, 0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.719 but I like that piece of not mind of knowing 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.120 that my draft picks have played football at the highest level. 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.960 That's just me. We lost my guy yet thirty eight. 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.640 We lost my guy for fifty one. Gross Mottos is 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.560 off the board. So going to the Carolina Panthers, Wow, 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.440 they're beefing up that defensive line. It took Derek Brown 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.320 in the first and then Matt Rule grabs you to 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:48.080 Gross Matos in the second. Okay, that's a pretty solid tandem. 0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.960 We call that a fake pin throw, but it's not 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.400 a fake pin throw. I picked in my fake marka. 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.040 We call that like a oh darn oh, oh damn it, 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.440 he's not there. What are we gonna do? You guys 0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.799 are faking. I wanted him, that was my guy. I 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.120 never I never saw it. I don't know. Somebody tell 0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.319 me that I'm wrong, Dan, tell me that I'm wrong. 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.920 What what didn't you like about him? I just I didn't. 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.000 I didn't see like a lot of explosiveness for a 0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.359 guy that people were talking about as a first round pick. 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.480 And I hate to compare him. I don't. I don't 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.600 want to compare him to Taco. I just did it 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.600 by saying his name. But like it always seemed like 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.600 if he couldn't get past you with his first idea, 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.080 then he didn't know what else to do. It looked 0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:36.080 really good on tape against Indiana. That didn't get me 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:40.640 too riled up. Wow Wow, I think there's no question 0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.080 he still needs to learn how to patch everything together. 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:47.120 But with that length, that flexibility, I coach him up 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.040 and I think you have something there. Uh you know. 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.919 I think he's an easy player to like. I thought 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:55.120 he was worthy of a first round pick. And you 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.000 can reduce him inside, you can play him outside. I 0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.480 think he has big time potential, not just what he 0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.239 is right now, but what he's going to look like 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.840 two years from now. I kind of agree with David 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:09.000 on this. Oh hey, my guy, I was going I 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.320 was waiting for him. I'm watching him in the Memphis 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.640 the game against the Cotton Bowl, and I'm like, he 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.880 has a good rush, and then for like three or 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.440 four plays in a row, he did absolutely nothing. And 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.759 I'm like, going, come on, man, you're playing Memphis today. 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.200 And again I'm slamming Memphis right now, but you know 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.680 you're Penn State. Find a way to get to the quarterback, 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.360 find a way to affect the pocket. I just did not, 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.120 And Dane, you could be well right about coach him 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.520 up do this with him, work on the technique. I 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.520 just did not see enough of those plays to make 0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.680 me feel like that, well, I'm getting a real difference maker. 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.640 I thought, I'm getting a guy that's got talent, but 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.000 it's gonna be so far down the line for me. 0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.200 I tell you what, Well, then you guys are happy, 0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.040 and I'm happy that you're happy. I like to see 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.279 other people happy, and Gross Mottos is gone. He was 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:59.719 my top and second NFL Draft continues one three the Fan. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.640 Weoke down back Cowboys dot Com. Welcome back, Jeff Kavanaugh 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.480 and Brian brought us of one oh five three the 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:09.520 Fan along with Kyle Yeoman's Dave Hellman and Dane Brugler 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.880 of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We'll be here with you 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.720 for every pick. Here. On day two of the NFL Draft, 0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:19.560 at thirty eight, you had ye tour Gross Mottos defensive 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.880 end Penn State go to the Carolina Panthers. I didn't 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:26.080 like it. Dane Brugler didn't like it. If he's pulling 0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.000 for the Cowboys, But boy, I tell you, we got 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.719 three analysts on here that couldn't stand him, and we're 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.840 really excited that he's gone, and I'm shock and surprised 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:37.399 at your guys's evaluation abilities. I'm gonna have to reevaluate 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.799 those myself. But he's gone, and at thirty nine we 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.319 now have the Miami Dolphins on the clock because we're 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.400 creeping our way towards fifty one and go ahead. No, 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.640 the gross modest thing is to me, I just I 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.800 was expecting it more and I didn't get more. Everybody's 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.200 talking about, oh, you gotta watch this grossmatos, you gotta 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.919 watch him, and like I was talking about, I did, 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:00.880 and I watched him, and I watched him. I watched him. 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.080 I was saying, give me more, give me more. I'm thinking, 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.279 oze left in Where is he getting right in toward 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:10.960 traits luid range, able to get slippery inside and out 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.880 in order to get himself free. You guys see a 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.719 whole lot of range there. Who you didn't see range 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.320 from gross mottos working down the line. He was straight 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:23.160 forward forward line thinking no, he said no, but yeah, 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.120 well forward is how you get down the line. You 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.160 run forward. I'm not asking the guy to do the 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.520 karaoke drill to chase the running back. Go get it 0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.520 might help him a little bit well, when he got 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.600 that length going and used it, and he's able to 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:38.680 make himself tough to block within him how often inside 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:43.319 he can now Dan's moving him inside to tackle on 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:47.200 on third downs. Absolutely, get more speed on the field. Now, Really, 0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.719 are not knocked around in there telling you you watch 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.160 the Memphis tape. I did watch the Memphis tapes. That 0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.080 thing we saw him. You saw him from a three 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.640 technique bully the Memphis guard right into the backfield Memphis. 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:02.640 You know it's Chase On for nine games against bad competition, 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.880 he had two sacks and you guys were drooling for 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.840 the dude because he runs fast. Oh you liked Chase 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.000 On too, don't rewrite history. I had Chase On right 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:14.440 in front of gross mottos. I think they were close 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:19.120 to me. That's where blood's explosive and one's running in sand. 0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.120 One produced and one didn't. That's a great point, sand. 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.799 I mean, thirty five tackles for lost the last two 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.760 years and the Big ten not bad. You know what, 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.759 what I've learned in this conversation is for better or 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.200 for worse. I'm glad he went because I don't want 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.640 I'm glad we're having this debate. About Carolina Panther yet 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:41.440 gross mottos and not Dallas Cowboy. So Miami Dolphins on 0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:43.040 the clock. Now I'm gonna go ahead and let all 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:44.920 that go get back in a good mood because we're 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.440 all broadcasting with friends on one oh five three and 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.839 on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So Miami, uh, this will 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.919 be the way their fourth pick of this draft. They're 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.080 sitting there with two a tongue of vloa. They are 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:02.279 sitting there with Austin Jaxon. And then my page cut 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.640 off and I don't see their third PICKO noah ig 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.960 oh igbinogeny. And now the Dolphins pick is in at 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.000 number thirty nine in the second round. Here's Roger with 0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.280 the thirty ninth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:21.359 the Miami Dolphins select Robert Hunt, tackle Louisiana Lafayette. There 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.400 is a Dane Brugler special as this was your top 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.160 rated guard, I believe, even though he's from you La La, 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:33.200 and he played right tackle at Louisiana Lafayette. A guy 0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:37.200 that really only played a little bit of guard earlier 0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.640 in his career moved to tackle the last two years. 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.560 We was All Conference player This is a mean dude. 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.880 He will bury you and not apologize for it. He 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.319 is a fun player who missed part of most of 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.720 the draft process. Missed the Senior bull because of an injury, 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.600 missed the Combine, so weren't sure how that was going 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.879 to affect his draft status. Didn't affect it very much 0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.839 because I thought he was worthy of a second round pick. 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.239 That's where he went. We have the Houston Texans. They're 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.239 going to be on the clock at number forty overall, 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.279 their first pick of the draft. I believe yes. And 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.480 if they're handling of their front office lately as any indication, 0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.640 they will pick a sixth rounder here and then break 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.360 NFL rules to sign him to a new deal before 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.120 he plays for like one hundred million dollars. That's what 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.080 Bill O'Brien's gonna do. How does Bill O'Brien end up 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:30.880 as the GM? Is he is? He good at relationships? 0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.720 Did he got the owner of the team to trust 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:37.000 him somehow? Well, it's the owner passed away, so well 0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.200 there's still an owner. Somebody owns the team, I know, 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.960 But he's he's run out a couple of General Mattress. 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:43.880 A matter of fact, Brian Gaine was a guy that 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.120 they they had worked together, and he got rid of him. 0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.680 Rick Smith a long time ago. He know his wife 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.360 got six So you know, Bill steadily, he wins enough games, 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.040 he gets some of the playoffs, he finds a way 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.279 to win the division. So you know he gets a 0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.719 lot of control that way. But yeah, this way of 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.200 handling and roster building and the team and stuff, that's 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.080 a good roster. But I'm just telling you right now 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:10.000 though his general manager skills are not very good. Well, 0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.120 he's on. He's on. Go ahead. Is it what gave 0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.239 it away? The DeAndre Hopkins trade or the money you make? 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:16.920 I mean, that's what I'm saying. You're you're in a 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.800 situation right now. You're it's about building your roster, and 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.799 you know doing there's some it's a talented they got 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.560 some talent there, but he's going to find a way 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:29.239 to wreck that talent, is what he's going to do. Well. 0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.759 It's a lot like when Chip Kelly got personnel in Philadelphia. 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.440 It's like, oh, I'll just trade the good players. This 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.359 is fun. I'm the personality in the room. It's just 0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.640 a it's a really weird strategy. And then to pretend 0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.200 that the David Johnson that as a player that he's 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.960 a plus at his salary, that was a minus. You 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.759 should have got more. Here's Roger twenty NFL Draft. You 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:55.359 use some Texans select Ross Blacklock, defensive tackle TCU. All right, 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.520 talk to me. Now, anybody throwing a pen at that one, 0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.279 I think that's a guy that you probably interested in 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.920 at fifty one. Now I'm throwing a pin, a fake pen. 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:03.839 Oh it's a fake pen throw. That's a fake pen 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.920 throw for me. But yeah, I liked him a lot. Somebody, Yeah, 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.640 we do. We really think he was gonna make it 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.120 to fifty one, though I think realistically too good of 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:13.480 a player. Do I think fall out of the top 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.520 fifty picks. Yeah, but I think I agree with you. 0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.279 But I think that when we get to fifty one, 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.319 there's gonna be players available that I'll have the same 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.279 thing apply to where I'll be like, yeah, I didn't 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:26.840 think that he was gonna make it. I don't know 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.080 who that guy's name is yet, but I think as 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.120 we get there that is going to happen. It's just 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.200 a matter of who that name is. But he was 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.560 definitely one of them where you anticipated him going well 0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.719 before you pick so TCUs Ross Blacklocke, who when I 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.560 watched him, they were lining up as a one technique, 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.160 and I think it as an NFL player, he projects 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.319 more as a three technique. Put him head up over 0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.440 the guard and let him use some of that athletic 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.399 ability to try to rush the passer. Sixty three two 0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.400 ninety pounds. I liked him. He would have been a 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.120 nice pick at fifty one, but yeah, probably going earlier 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.800 than that, only he got a basketball background. You have 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:05.320 that unique kind of combination with some lateral quickness and 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.600 you got the agility kind of paired with the length 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.120 as well. So I mean, I think this is one 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.880 of those guys. Him and both Neville Gallimore had some 0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:15.760 of the better lateral kind of sideline the sideline ability 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.400 as a d tackle than really a lot of the 0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:20.920 guys in the draft. Even though that Blacklock had that 0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.560 achilles injury back in twenty eighteen. I really do like 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:26.319 this pick for the Texans, And hey, Bill O'Brien did 0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:28.840 something smart that's kind of new. He stepped out of 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.680 the room for a little bit. He'll probably trade him now. 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.759 This guy, I mean, you talk about a disruptive player though. 0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.880 That first step quickness inside is stuff. Jeff, I think 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:39.799 you're right about him playing in those playim as a three. 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.719 Let him attack the gap. I mean, I like the 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.720 fact that how he's able to put himself in position. 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:47.960 He's a hard guy to fool. I was watching there 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:49.920 were some schemes that were trying to pull him out 0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.239 of the way and he's like, I'm not going for that, 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.400 and he beat He'd beat those trap blocks, get up 0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:57.880 the field tackle. He was my twenty sixth best player 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.560 on my board. So I'm a big fan of this guy. 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.960 Whenever I watch in tied defensive lineman in general, I 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.279 really like when I don't need to know exactly what 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.759 number he's wearing it because when just when you walk, 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.600 you can tell pretty quickly. Okay, that's who I need 0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:16.080 to watch, because he's firing off the ball, he's winning early. 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:19.160 You see those violent hands, you see the scheme versatility. 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:23.319 Ross Blacklock was definitely that guy for TCU. So now 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.000 we got the Indianapolis Colts on the clock at number 0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:27.920 forty one, and I believe this is their first pick 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.239 of the draft. And here is the commissioner first pick 0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:35.800 for the Indianapolis folks, when the forty first pick in 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:40.800 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts select Jonathan Taylor, 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:44.279 running back Wisconsin apaula jeez. Of course they picked not 0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.359 too long ago, and they took Michael Pittman and now 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.399 Jonathan Taylor running back out of Wisconsin. Dane, you said 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.279 some running backs were going to start going, here's the 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.360 beginning of the run. How many other teams before the 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.520 Cowboys you think might take a couple? And if you 0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.919 want to add a Jonathan Taylor scouting report, that dude 0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.799 was a workhorse. Ya talk about production. If you would 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:04.480 have went back for a senior year, he would have 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:09.840 shattered every major rushing record in college football history. Just 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.839 a really talented guy. And yes he benefited from Wisconsin's 0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.920 offense and offensive line, but he deserves credit as well. 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.000 This is a fourth three athlete at five eleven two 0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.120 n twenty five pounds. He's not a big, make you 0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.920 miss guy, but good luck tackling him, good luck getting 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.240 him on the ground. And this is an interesting selection 0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:31.040 for Indianapolis. They are giving Philip Rivers their new quarterbacks 0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:34.080 and help Michael Pittman on the outside. Jonathan Taylor in 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:37.400 the backfield. You have to really like what Chris Ballard 0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.799 is doing with the Colts right now. All the old 0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.719 quarterbacks are finally getting weapons. And did we mention I 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.000 get that was a trade up from forty four, was 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:48.040 it not? Yes, it was because Cleveland originally had Cleveland 0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:50.480 slides out of that pick, trying to add more value. 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:55.560 I haven't seen the terms, but so that's interesting, you know, adding, Yeah, 0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.360 surrounding Philip Rivers with talent. I actually a little birdie 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:02.400 told me that the Cowboys were super super high on 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.799 this guy. They really like Jonathan Taylor. Obviously, who doesn't, uh, 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.320 And I only bring it up because it's it's fascinating 0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:10.120 for me to think, you know, if a guy like 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.040 that falls to a team like Dallas, I mean, what 0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:15.800 a test of best player available that would be, because 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.200 on no level would make sense to draft that guy. 0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:25.720 But I mean, you know, I got too many receivers 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.320 to be running out too many running backs. I understand. 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.360 I'm just I just think it would be funny. I mean, 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.120 it's it's not going to be a problem now because 0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.560 he's gone, but it's funny to think about we're down 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:38.200 to the Jacksonville Jaguars at pick number forty two here 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:39.759 in the second round on one oh five three the 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:42.279 Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com is Jeff Kevin on 0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.480 Brian brought us from the Fan, Kyle Yeoman's Dane Brugler 0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:49.439 and Dave Hellman with Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And let's 0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:52.200 take a quick look back at our boards as we 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.560 are now within ten picks of the Dallas Cowboys, and Kyle, 0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.279 you want to give me a few names that jump 0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:00.640 out at you that you're hoping can keep sticking around. Yeah, 0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:03.240 I mean I'm still sitting there looking at Christian Fulton 0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:05.799 on the board and then also Grant Delpit. Both guys 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.879 are still there. I think here you're probably gonna see 0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:12.960 Jacksonville go with a wide receiver. So there's another pick 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:14.800 that's gonna push that a little bit further down. We 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:16.920 kind of expected maybe the Bears to go up a 0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.719 little bit. They're still sitting at forty three. They could 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.560 use some defense and they may take one of those corners. 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.480 So there's some teams out in front of you that 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.120 scare you a little bit in terms of taking some 0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:28.799 of the guys that you're looking at. But The fact 0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:30.680 that Fulton is still on the board still kind of 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:33.120 shocks me a little bit. I still had a one 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.640 two great on him, so if he's able to fall 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:40.880 to fifty one, I'd be at static. Dave Hellman, I mean, 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.760 it's it's what we said. I mean, McKinney's off the board, 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:49.600 Grossmatos and oh geez, I totally drew a blank. Who's 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.640 the oh Black Black loves me? Yeah, I mean, I'm 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:54.560 not mad about that at all. Those are you know, 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:57.239 I'm fine with them not being cowboy picks, but I'm 0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.759 I'm still I'm looking at Trevan Diggs, I'm looking at 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:05.439 Jalen Johnson, Christian Fulton, Grant Delpit, aj Epanessa still hanging 0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:09.239 out there, Zachin, Mattabeke as well. That's another name. Yeah, 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:13.520 another name. I mean I'm feeling really good about. You know. Then, 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:15.960 you know, we've kind of got a small circle of 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:19.560 names that we think the cowboys might like, and there's 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.120 still plenty of them here as we inch closer. What 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.640 we're on pick forty two right now, so we're inside 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:27.959 a ten or so picks, and there's still a pretty 0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:30.719 healthy amount of names sitting there. Matta Bik is a 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.799 really interesting one to me because I really liked him 0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:36.840 on tape and I was actually listening to Dane on 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:39.880 a podcast with Lance Zerline, and I think it was 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.440 Lance who said he had heard some things from some 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.680 teams and that maybe we should expect a slide from Mattabike. 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:50.120 There's some character stuff there. There is, and that's something 0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.760 that I've verified as well. Some teams a little worried 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:56.520 about that, but some teams are not. It's one of 0:50:56.560 --> 0:51:00.640 those things where there's no firm opinion there. I'm gonna 0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:03.080 throw out a what about Zach Bond? How do we 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:06.040 feel about him as a possibility at fifty one? I 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.919 like it. You would have to convince me that they're 0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:12.239 really going to be pretty darn multiple and what they're 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.080 gonna do defensively, because you know, we've heard them talk 0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:19.680 about use the word SAM slash DPR designated pass rusher, 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:21.680 and I think that fits him really well when you 0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:24.040 watch him at Wisconsin. His ability to hold the edge 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.560 with one arm, which I think they teach at Wisconsin 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:29.800 really really well. His ability to do that combined with 0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.560 cover and rush the passer. I love the idea of 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.600 Zach Bond. The implementation of Zach Bond would be my 0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.360 only question. I'm on board with that too. I mean 0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:41.440 I thought a team like the Ravens was going to 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.959 take him last night because of their ability to fit 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.680 their players. I mean they they whatever talent their players 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:49.839 have or skills they have, they're at one of those 0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:52.760 staffs to say, okay, well we'll call our scheme towards 0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:56.120 what's your strength. I thought that. You know, this was 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.840 a guy though, I really really liked him because I 0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.680 do for you know, he played a little light at 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:05.160 at at Wisconsin, tried to put on weight for the combine. 0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.560 You know it got to do what deluted sample, probably 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:09.239 trying to put too much water in him to hold 0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.359 some weight. But man, this guy, when you watch you play, 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.919 you're thinking like, oh, wait a minute, he's not gonna 0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.120 get there. Oh he just did? You know? He's that 0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:20.920 guy everything every time you see him. It's no way, no, 0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:23.960 he made the play. You know, I'm I'm a I'm 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:25.680 a big fan at fifty one. If you got a 0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:27.920 guy like this, I'd be totally on board. That's like 0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:29.920 my twenty seventh best player right there at him as 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:33.720 a one too. So mister Brugler, talk to me about 0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:37.239 how you would use bond less. I mean, we know 0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.440 that he can rush the passer, but what would you 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.000 do with him as a sam linebacker? Yeah, and I 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:44.000 think that's where you're I think he's a stack and 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:45.719 that's how you want to use him, and you don't 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:49.120 want to completely eliminate him as a rusher a blitzer. 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:53.080 But when you look at the Cowboys, if they fully 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.360 commit to a three to four, they're gonna need some 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:58.600 more help at linebacker, especially on the inside, and maybe 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:00.319 that's how you use him. You move them around, let 0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.759 him rush, let them blitz from different angles. And that's 0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:05.880 what Wisconsin did so well. They let him rush from 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.719 so many different angles. And you can but you also 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:10.960 saw him drop and cover. You saw him You be 0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:14.120 an athlete and do some things in space. So I'm 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:15.840 a big fan of bond As long as you're okay 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.520 with that deluded sample and you know any character concerns, 0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:21.600 I would be all on board with drafting him to 0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:25.200 fifty one. Here we go, the Jacksonville Jaguars still on 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:28.160 the clock. We'll get their pick here in just a second. 0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.839 Because the pick is in, we're just waiting to see 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.279 who the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to take here, and 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.800 then we'll be able to kind of reset and be 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:38.839 getting closer and closer to the Dallas Cowboys picking at 0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.480 fifty one right here on one oh five three the 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.239 Fan and on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Here is the commissioner. 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:49.000 We're the forty second pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. 0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:56.080 The Jacksonville Jaguars select Laviska Channault wide receiver Colorado. There 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:59.560 you go, that is a dangerous, dangerous man with the 0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:02.160 football in his hands. Maybe not the most polished or 0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.480 developed receiver in terms of route running and being a 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:07.840 complete player, but you let him have the ball and 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:10.719 it becomes a party when people are trying to tackle him. Well, 0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.200 he was a playmaker at Colorado. I mean, this is 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:15.759 a guy who profiles more as maybe an X but 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:17.319 you could put him in the slot. They put him 0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:20.040 in the backfield, had some handoff and some gadget plays 0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:22.520 with him as well. I just I like him overall. 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:25.440 Did have some turf toe issue, I believe in twenty nineteen. 0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:27.439 I think he had surgery to repair that, or even 0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:30.040 maybe it was a He had some torn labor stuff 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.120 there too, so some injury concerned. But a DeSoto kid, 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:37.000 Texas high school football DFW product, and I think he's 0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.640 a great player. Honestly, I like this pick. The Chicago 0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:43.080 Bears on the clock at number forty three, as we 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.640 work our way towards fifty one, where the Dallas Cowboys 0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:48.040 are gonna pick. You're listening to the twenty twenty NFL 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.040 Draft on one oh five three the fan in Dallas 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:56.359 Cowboys dot com bank you're on the Dallas Cowboys dot 0:54:56.400 --> 0:55:00.800 Com side of things, and Laviskas Chenault desto goal product 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:04.840 now going to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Kavanaugh was getting up. 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:06.479 I was gonna ask him a question, but I'm gonna 0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.400 go back to Brian Broad and said, Okay, Kavana, go 0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:11.640 do what you gotta do. No, you're fine, go get 0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:14.759 it done. I'll ask I'll ask Brian. You're good, You're good. 0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:16.959 We'll come back to it. But Brian, I was gonna 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:19.080 ask you. We kind of gave some of our picks 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:21.759 Dan and David and myself in terms of some of 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:23.759 the guys you're starting to hone in on last night. 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:26.479 We got to about pick twelve before we started seeing 0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:29.439 Ceedee Lamb as a possibility. Do you see any guys 0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:31.640 that kind of starts sticking out to you. Maybe it's Bond, 0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:34.160 maybe it's somebody else. Yeah, I tell you what. As 0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.680 I looked down the board here, you know, I was 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:39.080 worried about the Bears of being a team that might 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:41.920 take Diggs. You know, they've got two picks ahead of you. 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.239 I think the tight end is in play here for 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.279 the Bears. In one of these picks, the kid the 0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:49.600 first time, I believe it's gonna be commet, that's gonna 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:51.839 be taken off this board. And so I was kind 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:54.239 of hearing some whispers that the Bears, but they also 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:57.560 heard some whispers about Diggs being a part of one 0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:59.520 of these two picks. So I was a little bit 0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:03.160 concerned about that. You know, I still like the way 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:05.359 the board's holding up. I like the fact that there's 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:07.960 still corners there. I like the fact that there's still 0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:11.239 some safeties there defensive end. I mean, you know this, 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:14.759 this this board is all right right now. But like 0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:16.480 I say, we need some more of those. If you're 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:18.480 a Cowboy fan, you need some more of those offensive 0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.040 players to go off. If you want to get down 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:23.600 to get one of these these defensive players we just 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.480 talked about, Well, you look at forty five that could 0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:29.839 be with the Buccaneers. That could be an offensive pick. 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:32.399 The Falcons could go offensive side of the football since 0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:34.800 they went with aj Terrell in the first round. Jets, 0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:37.960 Steelers all need some offensive help. And you already mentioned 0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.319 the Bears who have two picks in the next nine 0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.680 to potentially address a tight end issue. But now the 0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:46.759 Kavanaugh's back will ask Jeff, some of the players that 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.600 you're kind of starting to look at, kind of at 0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:53.160 least highlighting maybe that blinking light like Steven Jones talked 0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.120 about yesterday in terms of the players that could start 0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:59.640 showing up as a potential on your board. I guess 0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.440 my blinking light at the moment is Zach Bond, the 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:05.600 guy we already talked about. He's my highest rated player. Left. 0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:08.960 After him, I would go to Christian Fault in the 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:13.640 LSU corner, Trevon Diggs the Alabama corner, and after that 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.160 a Keem Davis Gaither at linebacker. I'm a big fan 0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:19.120 of I know when I run simulations, I can get 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:20.640 him in the third or fourth round. But I've got 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:22.280 him in the second. I'm a really big fan of his. 0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:27.840 And then aj Epenesa, Julio Julian o'kwara off of the edge. 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.640 Those are my top guys. What about Jeremy Chin. I 0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:33.120 haven't heard. Chin's name kind of floated around here. I 0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.840 know Brian mentioned some of those safeties. They're still delping 0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:39.320 in Winfield there. But Chin's another guy that's intriguing. Yeah, 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:41.600 I'm a big fan of Chin, I really am. And 0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:45.400 I maybe you know he's going against accountants and doctors 0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:48.080 and whatever else the games he's playing against and bankers 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:50.600 and who else. But you watch him, he can cover 0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:53.840 some ground, you know, when he's running, he's getting finished. 0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:55.960 I think he can cover you know, they moved him 0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:58.480 around at Southern roy he had different responsibilities. It looks 0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:01.040 like the Bears pick is in. But I'm a fantas guy. 0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:02.720 Let's go to the commissioner right now if we could. 0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:13.640 It looks like we would just we'll talk about this selection. 0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.040 Maybe we don't have the commissioner here up on the side, 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:19.120 so we'll talk through it. Make the pick regardless of 0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:20.880 whether or not we can hear it. Yeah, I was, Yeah, 0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:22.560 I was, I was. I thought we would go through. Yeah, 0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:24.720 it's it's cool. Commet, So here we go, col Commet 0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:29.080 the tight end. Okay, dang it. Yeah, there's your pen 0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:31.880 three right there, right top tight end off the board. 0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:34.920 By the way, I forgot a name because I was 0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:37.280 scrolled over on my board. I didn't have the safeties up. 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:39.600 Grant Delpitt is in my top three of who I 0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.720 would want to make it to the Cowboys at fifty one. 0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:44.320 I just real quick, Jeff, I just I want to 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:46.800 throw this point out there, and there's I mean, there's 0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:48.560 no way for me to say this without being a hater, 0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:51.240 I guess, but do it that. I I this is 0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.600 what I bring the value for because all of y'all 0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:57.160 think that you're actually GMS, and I'm just over here 0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.600 to remind you should be. I'm just over here to 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.240 remind you of what the Cowboys actually do. And I'll 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.560 buy you all dinner if they draft Jeremy Chin in 0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.800 the second round if it take that, Can I get 0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:09.560 dinner if they take Delpit? Well, Dave is saying that 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:11.800 because he knows that Will McClay won't take a small 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:14.440 small You're damn right, That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm 0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:16.720 sure did you write a story about that. I sure did. 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.080 I talk about it all the time. They haven't drafted 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:23.120 a non Division one football player since twenty thirteen, and 0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:25.280 that was in the third round. It was also before 0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:29.439 the process. Uh, JJ Wilcox, b W web and JJ 0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:32.840 Wilcox in the same draft, but that was before Will 0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:35.640 took over. They have not done it since the smallest 0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:40.240 there with State. Yeah, exactly. If they go FCS in 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:42.960 the top fifty one, I'll take you all to a 0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:48.360 fast food restaurant of your choice. Yeah. Nice, quite a 0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:50.200 few that I like their Dave and I can run 0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:52.040 a wallet up there because I don't get meals, I 0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:58.280 get individual items to watch yourself. You got it all right, Cleveland. 0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:03.600 This is the twenty twenty NFL Draft with Jeff Cavanaugh, 1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:08.360 Brian brought Us, Dane Hellman, Dane Brugler, and Kyle Yeomans 1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:12.400 Ollie cow We're to number forty four, working our way 1:00:12.440 --> 1:00:14.920 to fifty one for the Dallas Cowboys. We've got the 1:00:15.040 --> 1:00:18.320 Cleveland Browns on the clock right now. The first tight 1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:21.320 end is off the board as Cole Comet is going 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:24.360 to be a Chicago Bear, and so you've lost the 1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:26.520 top tight end off of a lot of people's boards. 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:29.400 There to the Chicago Bears. You have the Tampa Bay 1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:32.600 Buccaneers on the clock, and we were just talking about 1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:34.560 some of the names that you'd love to see make 1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:36.800 it to fifty one for the Cowboys, and I will 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:40.320 tell you the top four that I am watching our 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:46.200 Zach Bond, Wisconsin linebacker, slash Edge, Grant Delpit safety at LSU, 1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:52.640 Christian Fulton cornerback at LSU, and Trevon Diggs cornerback at Alabama. 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:56.280 So let's just round table here. Which names have I 1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:59.200 left off that should be in that conversation? Well, I 1:00:59.280 --> 1:01:01.439 was just gonna go through the Browns needs real quick 1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:03.680 if I could, Joe that we talked about that with 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:08.080 the guard, safety, and edge, So keep an eye on 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:12.640 those posessional linebacker and there ye linebacker. Well yeah, linebacker 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:15.840 and linebacker and safety. Those are the two big ones 1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:18.600 for for the Browns. Uh, And that's what I would 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:23.720 expect here. But uh, the both of them, but both 1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:25.680 of them are big needs. I wouldn't be surprised at either. 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:27.720 But this is we mentioned at the top. This is 1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:31.000 a the sweet spot for the safeties, and the Browns 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:33.800 already traded back once because they think they feel good 1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:36.400 about a couple of these guys. Uh, if they want 1:01:36.440 --> 1:01:40.400 to go safety, whether that's Chin, it's Delpit, Windfield, So 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:42.840 that could be a direction they're going here, Dan and 1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:46.200 the new general manager there? His style? Is he a 1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:49.760 numbers guy? What is his what is his uh way 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:52.560 he operates? Well, yeah, there's no secret you know that 1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:56.080 the Browns front office is a very analytically driven um. 1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:59.800 But at the same time, uh, you know, we don't know. 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:02.000 This is the first year general manager. Andrew Berry is 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:04.200 the youngest general manager in the league. We've never seen 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:06.320 him in charge of a draft room before, so we 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:09.160 just don't know. We don't have any draft trends. We 1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:12.120 don't understand fully just how he's going to use these 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:16.480 metrics to draft players. You know, could be a Jeremy 1:02:16.560 --> 1:02:20.240 Chin who had the production, who has the testing but 1:02:20.440 --> 1:02:23.840 all at the FCS level. Could be an Antone Winfield 1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:27.040 who had tremendous production FBS but doesn't have the size, 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.160 Grant Delpit is a mix of all that. So I 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:33.240 think we're not really sure just how the metrics are 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:35.600 going to drive the Browns thinking when it comes to 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:38.080 draft picks. Yea. Does Delpitt fit that metrics kind of 1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:40.200 a system? Though? If you talk about this he just 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:42.480 he's done his pro day, he does. I mean it's 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:44.120 not the same as the combine. But if you just 1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:45.880 take his forty time and his height and weight, you 1:02:45.920 --> 1:02:47.880 would be projecting that he's a really good athlete at 1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:51.080 that size. You mean his thirty eight yard time probably. 1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:53.600 I mean if Karen Dansler ran in the four threes, 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:56.040 then Grant Delpitt might a run a four one. Well, 1:02:56.080 --> 1:02:58.920 that's the problem. We don't know with Delpit. Teams are 1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:00.800 going to take those times with grain of salt, so 1:03:01.080 --> 1:03:02.760 we don't know how that might affect some of the 1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:06.120 decision making when it comes to drafting players. So we 1:03:06.240 --> 1:03:09.520 wait for the Cleveland Browns pick at forty four, and 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:14.600 then we'll have forty five, six more picks before the 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:17.760 Dallas Cowboys. I can do math, and we'll see which 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:20.800 direction they're going here, hopefully whatever the Cowboys don't want. 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:22.360 So does that mean I want them to pick a 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:25.720 linebacker stay away from the safety group? Is that probably? 1:03:26.360 --> 1:03:28.200 I think that's kind of a pipe dream, though, I 1:03:28.280 --> 1:03:30.439 think safety is probably where they're gonna go here. That's 1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:33.480 messed up. You think the Browns go safety here or 1:03:33.560 --> 1:03:36.200 ye think? Yeah, Yeah, I think it's their biggest need 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:38.720 for sure. I think the next couple of picks between 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:40.720 now and the Cowboys could be offense, but I think 1:03:40.760 --> 1:03:44.520 safety's the biggest need for the Browns here by far. Well, 1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:47.480 I'd like to see them linebacker though. Yeah. I'm right 1:03:47.520 --> 1:03:48.960 there with you, Jeff. Yeah, I'd like to see them 1:03:49.080 --> 1:03:51.360 leave that alone. Let those safeties hang out until the 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:54.160 Cowboy pick. Anybody want to try to guess what the 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:57.200 Cowboys are thinking right now amongst the names that we're mentioning, 1:03:57.520 --> 1:04:00.880 any preferences that they might have, Dave, I think the 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:05.360 Cowboys are looking at their second round grades, however many 1:04:05.400 --> 1:04:09.800 of them they have, and thinking that they have more 1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:12.080 on the list than those that have been taken. And 1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:15.640 they've definitely they've lost some guys like Xavier McKinney. Obviously 1:04:17.080 --> 1:04:20.960 they've lost a few. But I think I can come 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:24.200 up with eight to twelve names that they probably feel 1:04:24.240 --> 1:04:27.520 good about. And Jeff's fantastic arithmetic. Just let us know 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:30.600 that there's only six to go, so the numbers add 1:04:30.640 --> 1:04:33.880 up that somebody they feel pretty good about should be there. 1:04:34.840 --> 1:04:37.280 I wasn't count in Cleveland, that'd be seven to go. 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:39.920 Oh excuse me, I'm sorry. Yeah, you remember remember the 1:04:40.000 --> 1:04:43.440 Browns last year in the second round they took Greedy Williams, 1:04:43.960 --> 1:04:48.200 who at one point was thought to be a very 1:04:48.520 --> 1:04:52.200 high first round pick. And could they do that again 1:04:52.240 --> 1:04:54.800 in the second round with an LSU There's no question. 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:56.960 And you guys have got me convinced you're going to 1:04:57.000 --> 1:05:01.080 take a safety. Here's the commissioner to In the twenty 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:09.040 twenty NFL Draft, Cleveland Brown select Grant Delpit, defensive back. Jerks. 1:05:09.120 --> 1:05:11.200 I think that would have been my favorite guy left 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:13.760 for the Cowboys, So that would have gotten to be 1:05:13.840 --> 1:05:16.600 real excited. That would have been, to me, a great 1:05:16.720 --> 1:05:19.080 pick to get Grant Delpit. And we'd talk about, oh, 1:05:19.240 --> 1:05:21.200 his tackling is not real good, and I would have 1:05:21.240 --> 1:05:23.920 said yeah, But to me, he projects as a guy 1:05:24.000 --> 1:05:26.280 that's going to be a turnover guy. I ain't drafting 1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:28.560 him to tackle. I mean, he's gonna need to do it. 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:30.400 He's gonna need to do it at some point, but 1:05:30.520 --> 1:05:32.000 that's not why I want him on my team. He's 1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:34.040 the last line of defense, Dave. If your last line 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:36.720 of defense can't bring people down, that's a problem. Yeah, 1:05:36.840 --> 1:05:38.560 but you know what he can do. He can step 1:05:38.600 --> 1:05:40.520 in front of passes and take him the other way, 1:05:40.600 --> 1:05:43.040 which is something the Cowboys haven't had in a while. Yeah, 1:05:43.240 --> 1:05:46.240 So that's probably we think, or at least I think 1:05:46.280 --> 1:05:49.000 that's a Cowboy potential target that goes off the board 1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:51.360 right there. And so now we're at forty five with 1:05:51.560 --> 1:05:55.080 Tampa Bay. They will be followed by Denver and Atlanta 1:05:55.240 --> 1:05:57.520 as we are ticking our way on down the board 1:05:57.600 --> 1:06:01.760 towards fifty one. Hey, Dane, does do the Browns know 1:06:01.920 --> 1:06:05.480 that they're in Big ten country? Because why do they? 1:06:05.640 --> 1:06:07.800 Why did? I mean, how many LSU players do they 1:06:07.800 --> 1:06:10.160 have at this point? My god? I mean they drafted 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:13.400 Williams last year, they got the receivers, so Dell and Jarvis. 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:15.600 I mean, come on, I know you want me to 1:06:15.680 --> 1:06:17.680 set you're setting me up for this. But LSU is 1:06:17.680 --> 1:06:21.000 a pretty good school. They produced some good talent down there. 1:06:21.480 --> 1:06:23.240 I mean, well, actually, I think people have talked about 1:06:23.280 --> 1:06:27.000 this ironically. I mean, the New Orleans Saints are Ohio State, 1:06:27.320 --> 1:06:29.240 you know, the Ohio State Club, So I guess it 1:06:29.360 --> 1:06:31.520 only makes sense they're trading off. True, and it's just 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:33.520 it's an Ohio thing. You know. The Bengals went with 1:06:33.640 --> 1:06:36.560 Joe Burrow. Uh, but you know, Ohio just kind of 1:06:36.600 --> 1:06:40.080 put him on loan for two years. Yeah, we got 1:06:40.160 --> 1:06:45.400 him back here in Ohio. Now I want to delp it. Yeah, 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:48.919 that's I think. Delpit was definitely on my short list 1:06:49.040 --> 1:06:51.480 of like the four names that would get me the 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:54.400 most excited. McKinney was the other one. He was one 1:06:54.440 --> 1:06:57.360 of them too. You seem a little down right now, Dave. Yeah, 1:06:57.400 --> 1:06:59.280 I mean, you know, and I get it. I'm gonna 1:06:59.320 --> 1:07:01.280 I'm gonna get egged. Is the LSU Homer and I 1:07:01.400 --> 1:07:04.360 deserve it. That's fair, but it's accurate. I mean, he 1:07:04.400 --> 1:07:05.680 could have gone to any school, and I think it 1:07:05.720 --> 1:07:07.240 would be good value. I would have been just as 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:10.280 excited about Davier McKinney. And now I think, you know, 1:07:10.400 --> 1:07:12.160 for those of us that have been waiting for the 1:07:12.240 --> 1:07:17.760 Cowboys to find that heir to Darren Woodson, it doesn't 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:22.120 look likely to happen this year because, I mean, Antoine 1:07:22.160 --> 1:07:25.120 Winfield still around. We haven't heard any buzz about the 1:07:25.200 --> 1:07:28.360 Cowboys and Antoine Winfield. Yeah, we don't think. We mean, 1:07:28.520 --> 1:07:30.960 Kyle Dugger's gone to I don't think they would look 1:07:31.000 --> 1:07:34.240 at Jeremy Chen at least not this early. So it's 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:37.560 hard to see that starting caliber safety coming out of 1:07:37.600 --> 1:07:40.800 this draft. So now I turned my attention to defensive 1:07:40.880 --> 1:07:43.480 lineman and corner because those are the two positions that 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:46.000 are still kind of hanging around well. And I think 1:07:46.040 --> 1:07:48.400 you the guy who gets me most excited is still 1:07:48.480 --> 1:07:52.920 Christian Fulton, another LSU guy at fifty one. Jeff, you're 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:55.880 shaking your head, but I think fifty one for Christian 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:58.400 Fulton would get me extremely excited. Oh no, me too. 1:07:58.480 --> 1:08:01.360 I was I was communicating behind the scenes there. I 1:08:01.400 --> 1:08:03.640 thought you were. I thought you were reacting. No, no, no. 1:08:04.160 --> 1:08:08.200 At pick forty five, we have lost another safety. The 1:08:08.280 --> 1:08:14.280 Tampa Bay Buccaneers take Antoine Winfield Junior. And so I 1:08:14.440 --> 1:08:16.920 agree with you guys right now. I think if you're 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:20.320 looking at the board, you're probably being pushed more towards 1:08:20.400 --> 1:08:25.000 the defensive line and you're being pushed towards corner there 1:08:25.240 --> 1:08:27.160 and yeah, yeah, we got Trevon Diggs out there, you 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:29.360 got Christian Fulton out there. I'm keeping an eye on 1:08:29.479 --> 1:08:33.679 Zach Bond, who is my best player available. And then 1:08:34.080 --> 1:08:39.679 on defensive line, Jordan Elliott, Justin, Mattabecke, aj Epanessa. There's 1:08:39.680 --> 1:08:42.400 still names there. So the Cowboys knew they were gonna 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:44.080 lose a bunch of their guys waiting out. The teams 1:08:44.080 --> 1:08:46.840 aren't gonna cooperate with whatever you want as the draft 1:08:46.920 --> 1:08:50.400 goes on. But yeah, you've got you got a handful 1:08:50.400 --> 1:08:54.120 of safety's gone. Xavier McKinney, Grant Delpit, Antoine Winfield, Kyle 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:57.280 Dugger all off of the board at this point. And 1:08:57.360 --> 1:08:59.560 so we'll see which direction they're going to go. But 1:08:59.680 --> 1:09:03.360 if like cornerback, defensive line is where at least my 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:05.400 eyes keep going on the board for them, did we 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:08.719 we keep excuse me, do where we keep talking about 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:12.280 though that if they got wiped out, that Diggs was 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:15.040 gonna be their guy. I mean, was that you guys 1:09:15.120 --> 1:09:18.799 talking and talking about that potentially if they got completely 1:09:18.800 --> 1:09:23.400 if the guy so to me, Yeah, the guys like Yo, Diggs, Bond, 1:09:23.439 --> 1:09:25.760 I mean, if they go defense, those and those guys 1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:29.080 are there, I mean, that's great. I'm feeling great right 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:30.880 now about that. We're just trying to fight through this 1:09:30.960 --> 1:09:33.720 little mini depression of the safeties going off the board. 1:09:33.760 --> 1:09:35.639 But there's still plenty of names that you like here, 1:09:36.040 --> 1:09:38.160 let me, I do worry about the Bears though, take 1:09:38.240 --> 1:09:40.920 him Diggs, I do. I was gonna be I'll be 1:09:41.040 --> 1:09:42.760 the optimist for a second. And it's kind of the 1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:45.640 same line as Kyle Dugger. What I said when the 1:09:45.680 --> 1:09:48.719 Patriots drafted him is I think, you know, we argued 1:09:48.760 --> 1:09:51.360 about Antoine Winfield earlier. A lot of us really like him. 1:09:52.200 --> 1:09:55.720 We have no indication that the Cowboys did so. Inside 1:09:55.800 --> 1:09:59.200 of the Cowboys war room, they might view Antoine Winfield 1:09:59.280 --> 1:10:01.680 going as a win in which I don't agree with that, 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:06.120 but sure they view him possibly as you know, they're 1:10:06.200 --> 1:10:09.000 cheering that because they're saying, yes, keep pushing Trevon Diggs 1:10:09.000 --> 1:10:12.479 down the board. That's a okay. So Antoine Winfield going 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:14.880 to Tampa is a loss for me, but I'm not 1:10:14.960 --> 1:10:17.800 sure it's a loss for the Cowboys front office. Do 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:21.680 you think Tampa's GM's daughter is really excited about the pick. 1:10:21.840 --> 1:10:23.600 She was just hugging her dad. She looked like she 1:10:23.720 --> 1:10:25.600 was about nine years old. Do you think that she 1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:28.360 knows who Antoine Winfield is and she made a big fan, 1:10:28.960 --> 1:10:31.320 big fan of way Antoine Winfield. She's hoping they don't 1:10:31.360 --> 1:10:34.040 lose their house. You know, I don't think she's thinking 1:10:34.040 --> 1:10:37.599 about that either. He's a commissioner. The Denver Broncos select 1:10:38.240 --> 1:10:47.479 kJ Hambler wide receiver Penn State. There you go. Yeah, 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:49.760 if you watch Drew Locke play at the end of 1:10:49.760 --> 1:10:52.120 the year, you know it's time to drop forty burgers 1:10:52.160 --> 1:10:54.960 in Denver. So that is a nice That's that's not 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:58.160 my top receiver available. He would have been my one 1:10:58.280 --> 1:11:02.200 two third receiver a bit available. But you totally understand 1:11:02.200 --> 1:11:05.479 the appeal of kJ Hamler at Penn State under five nine, 1:11:05.680 --> 1:11:09.720 under one hundred and eighty pounds. But the speed, the acceleration, 1:11:10.080 --> 1:11:12.400 the fits that he gives guys that are trying to 1:11:12.600 --> 1:11:14.960 stay in front of him when he's running routes, kJ 1:11:15.080 --> 1:11:18.560 Hamler is gonna be a fun addition in Denver and 1:11:19.160 --> 1:11:22.760 for a route runner like Jerry Judy and for your 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.920 big receiver in Courtland Sutton having the speed threat lined 1:11:25.960 --> 1:11:28.360 up out there with them, man, that's a lot of fun. Well, 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:31.400 last year's first round pick, Noah Fan, you add him 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:33.439 to the mix and all of a sudden, this offense, 1:11:33.479 --> 1:11:37.439 if you can protect Drew Locke, yeah, I think John Ellaway, 1:11:37.479 --> 1:11:41.040 former quarterback, he's looking at this offense and smiling about 1:11:41.080 --> 1:11:43.320 the potential. He's got a lot of drops though, right, 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:45.519 a lot of drops. He dropped up believe seventeen percent 1:11:45.600 --> 1:11:47.479 of his catchaball passes. And I don't I don't think 1:11:47.680 --> 1:11:49.960 as his hands are bad. It's just he is a 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:52.040 guy that's always on the move, so he was looking 1:11:52.120 --> 1:11:54.360 to run before he finishes the catch. I think it's 1:11:54.400 --> 1:11:57.679 more of a focus issue with him. But the blur speed, 1:11:58.040 --> 1:12:01.160 that's what you're drafting here, before and after the catch. 1:12:01.840 --> 1:12:03.960 He has the potential to be uh, he's not. I 1:12:03.960 --> 1:12:05.400 don't think he's gonna have a lot of singles, a 1:12:05.439 --> 1:12:07.680 lot of doubles. But look at his triples, look at 1:12:07.720 --> 1:12:09.720 his home runs. He is going to put up some 1:12:09.880 --> 1:12:13.519 big time numbers. Without speed. It's steal bases too. There 1:12:13.560 --> 1:12:15.040 you go. If you could do that in football, he 1:12:15.080 --> 1:12:18.560 would steal bases. It is now the Atlanta Falcons on 1:12:18.640 --> 1:12:20.600 the clock and their pick is in. I love the 1:12:20.680 --> 1:12:22.720 second and third round that I'm telling you. I love 1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:25.920 the clock getting shorter. Yeah, it's outstanding. I got these 1:12:26.000 --> 1:12:27.720 teams one minute is what they ought to do. We'll 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:31.040 have some fun then, all right. Rapid fire, Yeah, just 1:12:31.200 --> 1:12:33.320 rapid fire. This thing. Let's see how good we are 1:12:33.880 --> 1:12:36.640 with our analysis, stats and hats. I've been meaning to 1:12:36.680 --> 1:12:38.760 tell you guys about stats and hats about for a 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:41.600 long time. Stats and hats have been American made with 1:12:41.720 --> 1:12:44.519 pride since eighteen sixty five and are still the official 1:12:44.640 --> 1:12:47.840 crown of all self respecting Cowboys. Find your Stetson hat 1:12:48.280 --> 1:12:51.759 at shop dot Dallas Cowboys dot com or at Stetson 1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:54.719 dot com. Today we'll be coming back with the Atlanta 1:12:54.760 --> 1:12:57.800 Falcons pick, getting closer and closer to fifty one where 1:12:57.800 --> 1:13:00.000 the Cowboys are picking. You're listening to the twenty twenty 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:01.800 the NFL Draft on one oh five three The Fan 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:06.560 and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. As we continue here on 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:10.360 the internet side of things, and Marlon or excuse me, 1:13:10.680 --> 1:13:13.719 kJ Hammler. The last pick here for the Denver Broncos 1:13:13.760 --> 1:13:17.360 Antoine Winfield Junior. Before that, Grant Delpit. So you have 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:20.240 a couple of a couple of options here coming up 1:13:20.280 --> 1:13:23.599 for the Falcons. The Jets, Steelers bear so five picks 1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:28.040 until the or four picks until the Cowboys make a selection. 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:30.439 But is this a chance here for the Falcons to 1:13:30.560 --> 1:13:33.160 go with a defensive tackle here? I know that's kind 1:13:33.160 --> 1:13:35.000 of one of their picks. They could go a wide receiver. 1:13:35.600 --> 1:13:40.080 They didn't necessarily address that yesterday whenever Cede Lamb was 1:13:40.160 --> 1:13:43.760 on the board. But maybe they don't see Julio as 1:13:43.920 --> 1:13:45.439 maybe the same guy, or at least they want to 1:13:45.479 --> 1:13:47.160 plan for the future there and give him some help. 1:13:47.640 --> 1:13:52.040 What did the line for the Falcons? Lucky Photo is 1:13:52.080 --> 1:13:55.920 a name to keep on the Yeah, absolutely, Dan, You're 1:13:56.080 --> 1:13:59.000 you're doing a great job right now. That absolutely that 1:13:59.520 --> 1:14:01.600 if you talk to the Falcons. You know, one of 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:03.639 those names that they kept bringing up. I was asking 1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:05.560 about a million guys and they was like, what do 1:14:05.600 --> 1:14:07.800 you think about Futo? And I'm like, well, you know, 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:10.640 like he plays big man, lateral, gets outside and all. 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:12.720 You're like, yeah, what do you have? And mim said, well, 1:14:12.720 --> 1:14:14.920 I'm thinking about it like a second third round. Oh, 1:14:14.960 --> 1:14:17.360 he's more of a second round kind of guy, you know. 1:14:17.640 --> 1:14:20.320 So yeah, I this this seems like a very very 1:14:20.439 --> 1:14:24.400 good uh fit for them. You know, Tommy d Tommy 1:14:24.400 --> 1:14:26.360 de Mitchrof he just kind of takes his guys. He 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:28.439 doesn't care what round or not. You know, he just 1:14:29.000 --> 1:14:30.679 you like my guy? Great if you don't like my guys, 1:14:30.720 --> 1:14:32.639 So what you know kind of a thing. So yeah, 1:14:32.760 --> 1:14:34.760 Futo would be a guy that I would definitely keep 1:14:34.800 --> 1:14:39.400 an eye on here with Falcons, pick, I just want 1:14:39.400 --> 1:14:43.599 to fast forward to fifty one. Don't take a dB. 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:47.679 You know, the weights alone. The weight is what makes 1:14:47.720 --> 1:14:49.479 it fun because we got to sit here and sweat 1:14:49.520 --> 1:14:54.120 these out. And that's I mean, shoot, I spent twenty 1:14:54.240 --> 1:14:56.360 I spent a half hour convinced the Falcons we're gonna 1:14:56.400 --> 1:14:59.800 draft Calavon Chason last night. Maybe they go pass rush here, 1:15:01.479 --> 1:15:04.559 Curves Weaver, I think you have to go pass rush 1:15:04.640 --> 1:15:07.360 here if you're the Falcons. I mean, everybody I know 1:15:07.560 --> 1:15:10.320 that's connected to the Falcons was saying that's their number 1:15:10.360 --> 1:15:12.920 one need. And honestly, I think did not get any 1:15:13.000 --> 1:15:16.479 pressure on anybody last year by any means no, And 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:18.960 it looks like Tack McKinley's on his way out. They 1:15:19.000 --> 1:15:24.560 did sign fil Dante Fowler, Vic Beasley's no in Tennessee. 1:15:25.280 --> 1:15:29.040 So yeah, pash Rushers definitely near the top of the list. Well, 1:15:29.080 --> 1:15:33.519 you've got guys like Mattabeke who's also there, Jordan and 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:37.280 Elliott out of Missouri, another prospect Neville Gallimore going along 1:15:37.320 --> 1:15:39.880 with Lucky Foe two that you guys mentioned you could 1:15:39.880 --> 1:15:42.320 throw Marlon Davidson maybe in that mix. I know he's 1:15:42.400 --> 1:15:46.360 kind of a tweener either interior or a defense or 1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:48.680 excusement or an edge at the same time, played a 1:15:48.720 --> 1:15:51.080 little bit of both at Auburn. But I mean there's 1:15:51.120 --> 1:15:55.920 plenty of these individual I guess pass rushers, defensive lineman 1:15:55.960 --> 1:15:57.839 in general that are gonna put pressure on the quarterback 1:15:57.920 --> 1:16:00.479 here kind of that sweet spot. Would you talked about 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:03.320 the sweet spot of safeties, Brian in this middle part 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:05.120 of the second round, you can say the same thing 1:16:05.160 --> 1:16:08.559 about defensive tackle. Yeah, I mean that's I was looking 1:16:08.640 --> 1:16:12.880 down at these guys. I mean it said Mattabeke, Elliott Gallimore, 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:15.760 James Lynch. I know people are talking about James Lynch, 1:16:15.760 --> 1:16:18.960 stop playing in but playing defensive tackle from Baylor. So 1:16:19.240 --> 1:16:21.800 I mean there's some there's a sweet spot, but I 1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:23.679 think it's probably a little bit of a round later 1:16:24.120 --> 1:16:26.840 for these guys. But you know, hey, some people might say, well, 1:16:27.320 --> 1:16:28.960 we're not going to get back around to these guys. 1:16:28.960 --> 1:16:33.599 We got to do it right now. And then when 1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:36.120 you look at the Jets, the Steelers, and the Bears, 1:16:36.240 --> 1:16:38.400 so now you're starting to narrow it down because you've 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:40.320 still got those defensive minds that we talked about for 1:16:40.400 --> 1:16:42.960 the Cowboys that are still on the clock, are still 1:16:43.000 --> 1:16:46.400 on the board. Rather with Digs, Fulton, Bond, who are 1:16:46.439 --> 1:16:50.160 all still available. If the Falcons go with somebody different here, 1:16:50.280 --> 1:16:54.200 then that even includes the chance that all three of 1:16:54.280 --> 1:16:57.360 those names are available when it comes around. Yeah, it 1:16:57.400 --> 1:16:59.320 looks like the commissioner is going to tell us who 1:16:59.360 --> 1:17:02.120 they're going to take right here. I know we're still 1:17:02.200 --> 1:17:06.560 on dot com. The twenty twenty NFL Draft continues on 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:10.400 Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three The Fan. 1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:15.439 All right, welcome back. It's Marlin Davidson, the defensive end 1:17:15.479 --> 1:17:17.960 out of Auburn, going to the Atlanta Falcons at number 1:17:18.040 --> 1:17:21.120 forty seven, So there are three picks left before the 1:17:21.200 --> 1:17:23.599 Dallas Cowboys. Go ahead Dane and say, hey, Jeff asked 1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:25.320 me who I had the Falcons taken to my mon craft. 1:17:25.520 --> 1:17:30.240 Dane Brugler with Dallas Cowboys dot Com, our finest scout 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:31.880 and all the land, along with Brian brought Us and 1:17:31.960 --> 1:17:34.519 Dave Hellman, Kyle Yeoman's Jeff cavnot twenty five three The 1:17:34.600 --> 1:17:37.479 Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Dane who'd you have 1:17:37.640 --> 1:17:40.400 the Falcons taken there? In the second round, I had 1:17:40.479 --> 1:17:44.479 Marlin Davidson, a defensive tackle who could beat that jumbo 1:17:44.600 --> 1:17:47.160 defensive end for the Falcons can do a lot of things, 1:17:47.240 --> 1:17:50.160 so I thought a natural fit for them. That one 1:17:50.160 --> 1:17:52.599 of those names I heard, along with Lucky Folk too, 1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:55.680 along with a few other ones. Marlin Davidson a good fit. 1:17:56.080 --> 1:17:58.600 After they decided to pass on defensive line in the 1:17:58.680 --> 1:18:02.360 first round, j Tarrell at a clumpse in the corner, 1:18:02.680 --> 1:18:04.960 they go defensive line now here in the second with 1:18:05.760 --> 1:18:09.320 that quote unquote other defensive lineman out of Auburn, but 1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:11.880 a guy who had a big time senior season along 1:18:11.920 --> 1:18:14.439 with Derek Brown, I had. So I struggled with him 1:18:14.439 --> 1:18:16.000 a little bit on tape because I was watching him 1:18:16.040 --> 1:18:19.120 stand up and play defensive end on a four man line, 1:18:19.160 --> 1:18:21.040 and I'm looking at him like that guy looks like 1:18:21.080 --> 1:18:24.240 a three technique to me, and so I just I 1:18:24.320 --> 1:18:26.400 struggled with him a little bit. You saw the power, 1:18:26.560 --> 1:18:28.840 you saw what guys would like about him, but he 1:18:28.920 --> 1:18:30.320 looked like he was out of position to me. So 1:18:30.400 --> 1:18:32.120 I had trouble projecting him and I went with a 1:18:32.160 --> 1:18:34.080 two three. But is this about where you were about 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:36.840 where you had him, Dane, Yeah, I thought there was 1:18:36.880 --> 1:18:38.680 a chance he could sneak into the late first. You know, 1:18:38.680 --> 1:18:41.439 a team like the Patriots or you know, when they 1:18:41.560 --> 1:18:44.320 look at scheme and what they're looking for, that inside 1:18:44.360 --> 1:18:48.400 outside versatility, some teams really value that. But a little 1:18:48.439 --> 1:18:51.920 surprised that. You know, we haven't heard aj Epenessa's name right, 1:18:52.000 --> 1:18:55.479 He's still floating around there. Marlon Davidson a good player though, 1:18:55.520 --> 1:18:58.240 and put up double digit tackles for loss this past year, 1:18:58.479 --> 1:19:00.479 and they let him rush off the edge at three 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:03.920 hundred pounds and he did a real nice job. So 1:19:04.080 --> 1:19:06.200 this for me is shaping up right now is the 1:19:06.240 --> 1:19:08.960 Seattle Seahawks pick is in and they picked Texas tech 1:19:09.040 --> 1:19:12.080 linebacker Jordan Brooks in the first round. So Seattle does 1:19:12.160 --> 1:19:14.120 not care what your rankings are. They're going to pick 1:19:14.200 --> 1:19:16.879 their guys. They're on the clock now. Then we'll have Pittsburgh, 1:19:16.920 --> 1:19:19.560 then we'll have Chicago, then we'll have the Cowboys. And 1:19:19.880 --> 1:19:23.160 for me, I'm looking at Zach Bond. I'm looking at 1:19:23.600 --> 1:19:27.080 Christian Fulton, the cornered LSU and Trevon Diggs the corner 1:19:27.120 --> 1:19:30.320 at Alabama, and I'm zeroed in on three names. Whether 1:19:30.360 --> 1:19:32.720 that's smart or not, here's a commissioner the forty eighth 1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:36.599 pick to the Seattle Seahawks. With the forty eighth pick 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:40.879 in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select 1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:46.200 Darryl Taylor, defensive end, Tennessee. Okay, that's another guy that 1:19:46.360 --> 1:19:48.640 I kind of liked. Darryl Taylor. I thought in the 1:19:48.720 --> 1:19:50.960 second or third round, I thought that that was a 1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:53.320 guy that's kind of a full sized defensive end. He 1:19:53.400 --> 1:19:55.519 plays with some power, He shows you a little something 1:19:55.560 --> 1:19:59.120 as a pass rusher. I think Daryl Taylor is a 1:19:59.240 --> 1:20:02.000 nice prospect, but he is a fake pen throw for 1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:04.880 me because I'm sitting here looking at my best player 1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:07.400 available being a linebacker slash edge and a couple of 1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:10.200 the other ones being corners, and I'm wanting them to 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:12.320 hold on for the Cowboys and then have them make 1:20:12.400 --> 1:20:18.000 that pick. But Darryl Taylor, Dane Burglar Scouting Report, a 1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:20.280 guy that looks the part. When you talk about a 1:20:20.320 --> 1:20:22.920 pass rusher, if you're gonna build one, it would look 1:20:23.040 --> 1:20:25.080 similar to Daryl Taylor. You just wish you would let 1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:27.280 it loose a little more. When you watch his tape, 1:20:27.320 --> 1:20:30.120 he just leaves you wanting a little more. So the 1:20:30.439 --> 1:20:34.320 idea of Darryl Taylor excites me. The tape in the 1:20:34.439 --> 1:20:38.160 production didn't necessarily excite me as much. Yeah, he is right. 1:20:38.240 --> 1:20:42.360 I'm sorry about that. He is absolutely right about this guy, 1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:45.880 you know, And I think there's more power here than 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:48.880 there is anything else, you know. I mean, he will 1:20:48.920 --> 1:20:51.720 not guys back, He'll hold the point of attack. I 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:54.120 did see him run some balls down from the back 1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:57.400 side with this guy. But yeah, you're just he's another 1:20:57.439 --> 1:20:59.599 of those guys you're just kind of waiting for him 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:04.000 to really turn it loose. And but man, he's got 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:06.160 the body type to do it well, and he's starting 1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:08.439 to turn it loose because he's growing into the position. 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:11.640 His first two years or twenty sixteen twenty eighteen, his 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:14.960 first two healthy full seasons, he had fifty three total pressures. 1:21:15.240 --> 1:21:17.560 Last year he had forty four alone. And this is 1:21:17.840 --> 1:21:20.760 like we kind of talked about earlier, Like Jeff said 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:23.120 a moment ago, Seattle must have really liked this guy 1:21:23.120 --> 1:21:25.280 because they traded a third to move up and get him. 1:21:25.360 --> 1:21:27.639 So the fact that they're so impressed with the fact 1:21:27.680 --> 1:21:29.680 of giving a third round pick to move up just 1:21:29.840 --> 1:21:32.200 a couple of spots to select him at forty eight. 1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:34.160 Either they were worried somebody else was going to come 1:21:34.360 --> 1:21:36.120 and snag him, or they just really are sold on 1:21:36.160 --> 1:21:38.639 the power this guy brings because he's a brute force guy. 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:41.200 I'm telling you the last couple of years, Seattle is 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:43.040 the team that strikes me as we don't care what 1:21:43.120 --> 1:21:45.519 the world thinks about these guys. This is what we 1:21:45.680 --> 1:21:49.360 think because LJ. Collier sneaking into the first round, Jordan 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:52.040 Brooks this year in the first round, the tech linebacker, 1:21:52.439 --> 1:21:55.960 and then Darryl Taylor right there. They don't care what 1:21:56.160 --> 1:22:00.280 you think. Yeah, they're picking there guys. My intern n 1:22:00.360 --> 1:22:04.759 doesn't care at all. Best story, Can we Okay, I'm Jeff. 1:22:04.880 --> 1:22:07.240 Jeff did a great job of laying out a short list, 1:22:07.400 --> 1:22:11.760 but can we try to zero in on pick fifty one? Here? 1:22:11.920 --> 1:22:16.960 I'm going to Diggs. I'm sweating Chicago right now. We're 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:19.320 we're not even going to talk about other options. Well, 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:21.840 I don't know how. I don't know their interest level 1:22:21.880 --> 1:22:25.439 in Fulton, but I actually like the player that Fulton 1:22:25.560 --> 1:22:28.680 is today more than the player Diggs is today. But 1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:30.880 I totally get the I have them right next to 1:22:30.920 --> 1:22:33.719 each other. I totally get the appeal of Trevon Diggs, 1:22:34.080 --> 1:22:35.840 and I'm not going to forget about Zach Bond. I'm 1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:38.640 not going to figure about Justin Matabek. Absolutely no, No, 1:22:38.800 --> 1:22:41.200 I think there's a great list of guys there. Yeah, 1:22:41.520 --> 1:22:44.439 I'm totally psyched out. But me personally, I'm just being 1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:46.759 selfish right now, which I usually am. On this program. 1:22:47.040 --> 1:22:49.080 You are, and so I you know, if I get 1:22:49.120 --> 1:22:52.439 a chance to get my my like eighteenth best player 1:22:52.520 --> 1:22:55.479 off my board, my top fifty one, and it's hit 1:22:55.520 --> 1:22:58.479 this guy. Absolutely, you said, I get my eighth best 1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:01.960 player last night, my eighteenth best player today. Yeah, come on, 1:23:02.080 --> 1:23:04.440 bring it on in a position that it could absolutely 1:23:04.920 --> 1:23:07.400 they can use. Yeah. I don't disagree at all. I 1:23:07.520 --> 1:23:10.560 just wonder in the in the interest of being a 1:23:10.640 --> 1:23:13.439 devil's advocate, I mean, they would have taken a pass 1:23:13.520 --> 1:23:16.519 rusher if they hadn't had Ceedee Lamb fall in their laps. 1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:19.400 So is that a possibility? I think I think they 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:23.200 had interest in Darryl Taylor. It's obviously not possible anymore. Um. 1:23:23.760 --> 1:23:27.760 I see Julian o'quara's name sitting there. I see a J. E. 1:23:27.840 --> 1:23:31.479 Panessa still hanging around. Uh, this is a good spot 1:23:31.520 --> 1:23:34.280 to be in. There's Neville Neville Gallimore, how about that. 1:23:34.520 --> 1:23:37.560 I mean the same thing with Matt Matta Bouquet. I 1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:41.240 just don't. I don't know if I'm ready to better 1:23:41.320 --> 1:23:44.160 than like Gallimore. I'm not ready to take a defensive 1:23:44.200 --> 1:23:47.240 tackle of fifty one me personally. But I wonder if 1:23:47.280 --> 1:23:48.960 we can rule it out just because it's not what 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:53.840 we would do they I don't. I don't think the 1:23:53.920 --> 1:23:56.720 player is there to be interested. But anything to the 1:23:56.800 --> 1:24:00.360 talk they've been doing about center, about Peter King talking about, hey, 1:24:00.439 --> 1:24:02.639 maybe Ruise at the end of the first Cowboys trying 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:05.160 to move back, you could get this. I mean that's 1:24:05.160 --> 1:24:07.240 why I was. I don't mind Cushion Berry got him 1:24:07.240 --> 1:24:10.360 as a two three? Yeah, how about Matt Hennessey. I 1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:12.880 have Hennessey better. I mean, there's the same round, but 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:14.840 I have him better. I just think he's a better 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:17.960 athlete than Cushion Berry. Cushion Berry is kind of a 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:23.639 wide base catch stare long. I'm with you, but yeah, 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:26.599 he's But I just like Hennessy's athletic ability a little 1:24:26.600 --> 1:24:29.240 bit better. You know. That's kind in the Cowboys run game, 1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:31.000 it seems like they ask a lot of their center 1:24:31.240 --> 1:24:36.640 athletically reach. I don't know how Cushionberry necessarily fits schematically, 1:24:36.720 --> 1:24:39.000 but I do like the player. So the pick is 1:24:39.040 --> 1:24:41.439 in for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here's the commission either getting 1:24:41.479 --> 1:24:46.160 cheered or booed. With the forty ninth pick in the 1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:57.000 twenty twenty NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers select Chase Claypool, receiver. Interesting. So, uh, 1:24:57.240 --> 1:25:01.519 Claypool phenomenal. I mean, you want to talk about the 1:25:01.640 --> 1:25:04.760 size and the athletic ability at the combine. Chase Claypool 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:06.920 over a thousand yards at Notre Dame last year. He's 1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:11.160 a phenomenal athlete. I had my concerns on tape watching 1:25:11.240 --> 1:25:13.599 him against press coverage and the way that he uses 1:25:13.720 --> 1:25:16.479 that big old body that he's got in terms of 1:25:16.600 --> 1:25:19.720 letting people move into the sideline. But end of the 1:25:19.800 --> 1:25:23.440 second round, for that size and that level of athleticism, 1:25:23.520 --> 1:25:26.240 I think it's it's tough to fight that too hard. Dane, 1:25:26.280 --> 1:25:29.679 what did you think about Claypool? Well, and historically speaking, 1:25:29.880 --> 1:25:33.840 the Steelers have been such a good drafting team when 1:25:33.880 --> 1:25:37.120 it comes to receive. On Day two, look at just 1:25:37.200 --> 1:25:40.639 In Juju Smith Schuster and your guy last year from Toledo, 1:25:41.560 --> 1:25:46.760 James Washington, h Emmanuel Sanders at one point, uh, the 1:25:47.200 --> 1:25:49.880 Antonio Brown at one point that they have been really 1:25:52.120 --> 1:25:56.360 drafting receivers outside the second round or outside the first 1:25:56.439 --> 1:25:59.200 round has been a strength to this h this organization, 1:25:59.360 --> 1:26:02.479 and they see something in Claypool to take him over 1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:05.200 some of these other receivers that are still on the board. 1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:09.160 Which is interesting, but I mean you set it up 1:26:09.600 --> 1:26:12.320 Jeff six to four, two hundred and thirty eight pounds, 1:26:12.800 --> 1:26:16.200 four four speed. But in terms of his route running, 1:26:16.320 --> 1:26:19.519 his releases a little vanilla, you know, nothing really to 1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:22.439 get excited about as a separator. But he'll go up 1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:24.439 and get the football, he'll run past you. And this 1:26:24.560 --> 1:26:27.559 is a guy who twenty five tackles, big time special 1:26:27.640 --> 1:26:30.920 teams player. Uh, that's gonna you know, the offensive coordinator 1:26:30.920 --> 1:26:33.120 and the special teams coordinator, they might be duking it 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:35.280 out to see who gets to use this guy more. Well, 1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:39.800 I'm gonna tell the offensive coordinator he wins if I 1:26:39.840 --> 1:26:41.680 think so, you want to put my guy on one 1:26:41.720 --> 1:26:45.200 of your special teams. Cool, don't interrupt my meetings. Thanks. So, 1:26:45.320 --> 1:26:47.680 the Chicago Bears are on the clock at fifty. We 1:26:47.760 --> 1:26:51.599 are one pick away from the Dallas Cowboys at fifty one, 1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:54.280 and I think you're just kind of sit there and 1:26:54.400 --> 1:26:56.360 let the draft come to you. To me, it looks 1:26:56.439 --> 1:26:59.960 really good right now with guys like Christian Fulton, Treva 1:27:00.040 --> 1:27:04.360 on Dig, Zach Bond, Justin Matabeekee, Jordan Elliott, Ajpin Sa 1:27:04.439 --> 1:27:07.960 Julie Allen Johnson. We haven't mentioned his No, Yeah, I 1:27:08.040 --> 1:27:11.439 mean he I guess no. I know that a lot 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:13.960 of people are really really high on him. He wasn't 1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:16.160 for me. I've got him in the third because I 1:27:16.240 --> 1:27:19.960 actually I didn't trust him in man coverage. But here's 1:27:20.240 --> 1:27:22.000 fifty for the Bears. Here's he's not going to be 1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:25.719 your problem for much longer. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 1:27:26.760 --> 1:27:32.000 Chicago Bears select Jalen Johnson. All Right, to me, that's 1:27:32.040 --> 1:27:34.320 a that's a dream come true for me because he 1:27:34.439 --> 1:27:36.400 was just a guy that wasn't for me. I understood 1:27:36.400 --> 1:27:39.200 the appeal of the athletic ability, and maybe the Cowboys 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:41.400 do run a cover three scheme, so maybe it would 1:27:41.439 --> 1:27:43.240 have been a fit. He just wasn't for me in 1:27:43.400 --> 1:27:46.120 terms of his fluidity and man coverage when I watched him. 1:27:46.200 --> 1:27:48.960 But Jayalen Johnson, the Utah cornerback to the Bears. The 1:27:49.040 --> 1:27:50.920 Cowboys are on the clock, will set you up for 1:27:51.000 --> 1:27:53.240 that pick. But Dane, tell us what you thought about 1:27:53.280 --> 1:27:58.000 Jaylen Johnson. There's nothing amazing about what he offers. He's just, 1:27:58.160 --> 1:28:00.519 I think, a solid player. I don't think he has 1:28:00.560 --> 1:28:03.679 any major weaknesses, doesn't have a ton of mental mistakes. 1:28:03.720 --> 1:28:05.920 He'll be a little over aggressive at times. Not the 1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:08.759 biggest guy, not the fastest, but just a solid player. 1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:11.679 Can play inside, outside, can play man, can play zone, 1:28:12.520 --> 1:28:15.320 and a real They call him a professional at Utah 1:28:15.439 --> 1:28:17.519 because the way he carries himself. So I think just 1:28:17.600 --> 1:28:20.280 a solid pick here for Chicago is going to step 1:28:20.360 --> 1:28:22.640 in compete for a starting role as a rookie. All 1:28:22.720 --> 1:28:25.040 right around the horn, Dallas Cowboys on the clock at 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:27.360 fifty one. I think the way I want to do 1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:30.320 this is everybody, you get one name for that you 1:28:30.400 --> 1:28:32.120 would like and we'll go around the room and we'll 1:28:32.160 --> 1:28:34.960 start with Dave Hellman, one name that you would love 1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:37.880 to see his name called here. I'm gonna I'm gonna 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:40.879 go out of my I'm gonna fix my Homer reputation 1:28:41.000 --> 1:28:43.679 because if I'm picking one guy I'm fine with Trevon Diggs. 1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:46.880 I'm a okay with that's he's a rare guy and 1:28:47.040 --> 1:28:49.280 he I mean, he doesn't have the most freakish athleticism 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:51.320 in this draft, but to be able to do the 1:28:51.400 --> 1:28:54.520 things that he does at his size, it's really impressive. 1:28:54.680 --> 1:28:56.639 And to put him in a room with a guy 1:28:56.760 --> 1:28:59.599 like Al Harris, who's played cornerback at the highest level, 1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:02.040 you'd like to think you can coax some pretty good 1:29:02.080 --> 1:29:04.360 production out of him. I know his tape's not perfect. 1:29:04.760 --> 1:29:06.600 I think a lot of people judge him based on 1:29:06.720 --> 1:29:09.360 what happened against LSU, which is not very fair because 1:29:09.479 --> 1:29:12.280 LSU did that to a lot of people. And I'm 1:29:12.360 --> 1:29:15.240 perfectly comfortable drafting him at this value. How boys have 1:29:15.400 --> 1:29:17.800 to pick in here's the I talked too long. Sorry, 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:20.599 all of us in the nationale Football League extend our 1:29:20.680 --> 1:29:27.599 sincere condolences to Dak Prescott, whose brother Jason passed away yesterday. Dak, 1:29:27.640 --> 1:29:46.640 our thoughts are with you and your family. Some of 1:29:46.760 --> 1:29:49.200 my best memories growing Oh, they're not going to announce 1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:51.840 the pick. That was just the commissioner offering the condolences 1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:55.920 to the Prescott family. So we was nice that and 1:29:56.080 --> 1:29:58.920 we'll continue around the horn. Add one name to the 1:29:59.000 --> 1:30:01.679 name we've already heard from Dave with Trevon Diggs, Kyle 1:30:01.840 --> 1:30:04.600 Yeoman's well, I think they'll go Digs here because of 1:30:04.680 --> 1:30:07.719 the returnability and the fact that he was the highest 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:10.880 rated press corner out of the entire class. But I 1:30:11.080 --> 1:30:14.000 would like Christian Fulton here. I think they'll go with Diggs, 1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:15.720 and I'm totally okay with it, But I think I 1:30:15.960 --> 1:30:18.360 just think Fulton is He's higher on my board. I 1:30:18.439 --> 1:30:20.240 liked him a little bit more, so just to add 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:22.439 the name to it, I would say Fulton, Dane Brugler. 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:24.880 Add a name to that list and tell us if 1:30:24.920 --> 1:30:28.040 you prefer one that's already named. No, I mean, if 1:30:28.040 --> 1:30:31.439 I'm adding someone to the list and you know, we 1:30:31.520 --> 1:30:34.599 say bond yet, um, you know a player who can 1:30:34.640 --> 1:30:37.040 play linebacker and give you rush. But I mean this 1:30:37.160 --> 1:30:39.840 all comes back to Trevon Diggs, a player that if 1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:42.920 the first sixteen picks played out a certain way, the 1:30:43.000 --> 1:30:46.360 Cowboys were considering him at number seventeen and so preach 1:30:46.680 --> 1:30:48.720 if they're able to get him a fifty one, that 1:30:48.880 --> 1:30:51.639 would be uh, you know, kind of an ideal scenario 1:30:52.040 --> 1:30:55.920 for the first two rounds for this team. Brian just 1:30:56.240 --> 1:30:59.000 signing stay. I mean, it's my eighteenth best player on 1:30:59.040 --> 1:31:01.439 the board day It's absolutely right. If they were to 1:31:01.520 --> 1:31:04.519 wipe out situation, they probably would have taken him. If 1:31:04.560 --> 1:31:06.680 they couldn't move, he was a guy they were going 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:08.960 to consider. I think they got very fortunate here that 1:31:09.080 --> 1:31:11.240 the board fell the way it did. There's a lot 1:31:11.280 --> 1:31:14.040 of great second round players here, guys that very well 1:31:14.040 --> 1:31:18.479 have been first round players. So yeah, I'm being very selfish. Fulton. 1:31:18.560 --> 1:31:20.920 I like him, but I think Diggs is a better player. 1:31:21.040 --> 1:31:24.720 And if Diggs were the pick, when he got to Alabama, 1:31:24.880 --> 1:31:29.120 he was playing wide receiver. So you're looking at it 1:31:29.360 --> 1:31:31.599 at a guy that if if they get him one, 1:31:32.520 --> 1:31:35.000 it's possible it's the best player on their board again, 1:31:35.400 --> 1:31:37.519 which would work out great that this time it falls 1:31:37.560 --> 1:31:41.040 into a big position of need. And two, I think 1:31:41.080 --> 1:31:43.840 a guy who's only played cornerback for three years, if 1:31:43.880 --> 1:31:46.720 he ends up being the pick, so what if he's 1:31:46.760 --> 1:31:49.280 not gonna beat out Cheeto or Anthony Brown or Jordan 1:31:49.360 --> 1:31:51.880 Lewis on day one, you'd be looking at the next 1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:54.479 four years with him. Now, this is a yeah, this 1:31:54.640 --> 1:31:56.960 is a long term pick. If he's not a starter 1:31:57.120 --> 1:31:59.160 day one. I'm not worried about it, because that's not 1:31:59.360 --> 1:32:03.280 why you cornerbacks as badly as just to restock that position. Well. 1:32:03.360 --> 1:32:07.519 He also uses his wide receiver experience to outsmart wide receivers. 1:32:07.600 --> 1:32:10.360 Now you could see it on tape. He's very good 1:32:10.400 --> 1:32:14.040 at kind of at least seeing the field, seeing what's 1:32:14.040 --> 1:32:16.880 gonna happen, and the reacting very quickly. So I think 1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:20.559 overall this would be a fantastic pick if that's into 1:32:20.840 --> 1:32:23.639 who they end up going with. Yeah, we've got ourselves 1:32:23.880 --> 1:32:26.400 pigeonholed in here, which is like the exact opposite at 1:32:26.439 --> 1:32:29.040 least of our broadcast yesterday when we're sitting there watching 1:32:29.120 --> 1:32:31.519 going there is it's not gonna be lamb. It should 1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:33.800 be good be but it's not gonna be. And so 1:32:33.960 --> 1:32:36.439 now we've set the expectation that the Trevon Diggs pick 1:32:36.560 --> 1:32:40.840 is coming. Bond would be a good they would pick here. 1:32:41.560 --> 1:32:44.360 They have to be happy that the board fell the 1:32:44.439 --> 1:32:47.240 way it did. But man, there are names that you're 1:32:47.320 --> 1:32:50.280 least at least you're having to go, Wow, that guy's there, 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:52.880 you know, having to have that that should we go 1:32:53.040 --> 1:32:54.840 this way, should go that way. I just think Diggs 1:32:54.960 --> 1:32:57.400 is too high on their board. I just that's just 1:32:57.520 --> 1:32:59.080 kind of how I feel about him right now. I 1:32:59.120 --> 1:33:01.160 think he's probably higher and it's more. But if you 1:33:01.240 --> 1:33:04.639 look at big picture, this team has no cornerbacks under 1:33:04.680 --> 1:33:07.960 contract until twenty twenty twenty one. Yeah, that's big, So 1:33:08.120 --> 1:33:10.640 you've got to think about that long term. And now 1:33:10.680 --> 1:33:13.040 you don't have to snag another corner later in the draft, 1:33:13.120 --> 1:33:15.680 even if they do go corner here. I know, you know, 1:33:15.880 --> 1:33:18.760 somebody y'all have talked about, you know, Digs's length gets 1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:21.280 him in trouble because he relies on it too much. 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:25.240 But like I said, man, this guy's got thirty three 1:33:25.320 --> 1:33:29.400 inch arms, Like I like the the measurables are very impressive. 1:33:29.439 --> 1:33:32.679 And it's at pick fifty one. I'm very fine rolling 1:33:32.720 --> 1:33:35.160 the dice on him developing a little bit more. They've 1:33:35.200 --> 1:33:37.720 got the pick in we are just waiting for the 1:33:37.800 --> 1:33:41.120 announcement of who that pick is, and we are sort 1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:44.280 of zoomed in on who we hope it is. Which man, 1:33:44.400 --> 1:33:46.439 if they make that pick and it's one that we're 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:48.800 all happy with. Can you think of the last time 1:33:49.200 --> 1:33:51.599 that the Cowboys had picked two players in the draft 1:33:51.640 --> 1:33:55.360 and you went, hey, that's exactly who I would have picked. Yeah, No, 1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:57.880 I mean it's I know. I was trying to think, 1:33:58.439 --> 1:34:00.519 now they're gonna bus there's no there's some Yeah, there's 1:34:00.520 --> 1:34:03.160 so many times we've sat there and gone, oh geez, 1:34:03.280 --> 1:34:05.960 you know, why did they take that guy? We felt 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:08.519 bad about the situation and trying to make it sound 1:34:08.600 --> 1:34:10.880 better than it was. I think I think, you know, 1:34:10.920 --> 1:34:13.160 if they get if they get Lamb and Digs out 1:34:13.200 --> 1:34:16.439 of this, I think the positivity about the direction they're going, 1:34:16.520 --> 1:34:19.559 I think is very very good with this draft so far. Yeah, 1:34:20.479 --> 1:34:23.519 so we are seeing Mike McCarthy, but he's not in 1:34:23.680 --> 1:34:25.960 his seat. It says Mike McCarthy head coach. But it's 1:34:26.000 --> 1:34:28.280 just a chair sitting there, and there's Jerry But here 1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:31.080 comes to Dallas Cowboys pick at number fifty one, with 1:34:31.320 --> 1:34:34.400 the fifty first pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 1:34:35.080 --> 1:34:41.280 the Dallas Cowboys select Trey Von Diggs, defensive back Alabama. Hey, 1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:43.639 here you go, I think, and there's a decent chance 1:34:43.680 --> 1:34:45.880 they picked their best player available two picks in a row. 1:34:46.080 --> 1:34:47.479 Is that is a guy that we talked about. If 1:34:47.479 --> 1:34:49.360 they were wiped out at seventeen, there's a chance that 1:34:49.560 --> 1:34:51.920 was the pick. It falls into position of need. It's 1:34:51.960 --> 1:34:54.680 a guy that they really really liked. I think a 1:34:54.760 --> 1:34:56.719 lot of Cowboy fans are gonna be really really happy 1:34:56.760 --> 1:34:58.040 with this pick. You want to hit us with the 1:34:58.080 --> 1:35:01.320 scouting report, Dane, this is a like we mentioned before, 1:35:01.320 --> 1:35:04.719 a former receiver who likes to do receiver like things 1:35:04.960 --> 1:35:07.360 at the catch point. And look, if you're looking for 1:35:07.600 --> 1:35:10.760 the most technically refined corner, this is not your guy. 1:35:11.000 --> 1:35:13.479 But as an athlete, he moves really well. And you 1:35:13.600 --> 1:35:16.880 watch his tape Nick Saban and that staff kind of said, 1:35:17.200 --> 1:35:19.280 you know, don't worry about your pedal, don't worry about 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:22.800 your footwork being perfect, just go be an athlete and 1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:25.320 go cover your guy. And that's exactly what he did, 1:35:25.400 --> 1:35:27.640 and he did at a high level quite often. So 1:35:28.920 --> 1:35:31.680 again I think this in terms of value, this is 1:35:31.760 --> 1:35:34.000 tremendous value to get a player like this outside the 1:35:34.080 --> 1:35:36.920 top fifty, and a guy that, regardless of how we 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:40.000 felt about him this, we know how high the Cowboys 1:35:40.080 --> 1:35:41.960 were on on him, and so to get him at 1:35:42.000 --> 1:35:44.280 this point just the awesome value for them. Guys, you 1:35:44.320 --> 1:35:46.400 don't see this guy out of balance, you know when 1:35:46.439 --> 1:35:49.519 you watch him play. I mean the d Dane painted 1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:51.760 a great picture of him. But I saw a guy 1:35:51.840 --> 1:35:54.400 that was an aware player. He's got the mirror skills 1:35:54.760 --> 1:35:57.439 and he's plays in ballants. You know. Usually sometimes you 1:35:57.520 --> 1:35:59.479 see quarters when they pedal, they turn and they drive 1:35:59.520 --> 1:36:02.479 and they're like kind of clunky. This kid's not clunky. 1:36:02.720 --> 1:36:05.640 I mean he can move and be a position to 1:36:05.760 --> 1:36:09.439 keep himself in positions. Big, he's long, he attacks the football, 1:36:09.560 --> 1:36:12.679 he's athletic. I think it's it's what the league wants 1:36:12.720 --> 1:36:16.320 at cornerback now, and it's a guy that the best 1:36:16.400 --> 1:36:18.320 football of his life is obviously going to be ahead 1:36:18.320 --> 1:36:20.240 of him as he's only played corner for three years 1:36:20.320 --> 1:36:21.880 and he's already got the tape of a guy that 1:36:21.960 --> 1:36:24.240 deserves to get picked in the top fifty. So it's 1:36:24.320 --> 1:36:27.840 Trevon Diggs going to the Dallas Cowboys at fifty one, 1:36:28.040 --> 1:36:30.240 and we will continue on as we march through the 1:36:30.320 --> 1:36:33.559 second round and into the third round. Here, you're listening 1:36:33.600 --> 1:36:35.720 to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five 1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:41.040 three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com bank. You're 1:36:41.040 --> 1:36:43.040 on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com side of things, and 1:36:43.120 --> 1:36:46.240 we're also live on social now here on the Draft 1:36:46.280 --> 1:36:50.920 Show and Dallas Cowboys Social media's Kyle Yeoman's Jeff cavanaal 1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:54.360 Brian brought us Dave Hellman and the great Dane Brugler 1:36:54.479 --> 1:36:57.760 as Treyvon Diggs is your newest Dallas Cowboys. So now 1:36:57.840 --> 1:37:01.799 the draft class consists of Seedee Lamb from Oklahoma Trayvon 1:37:01.840 --> 1:37:04.800 Digs from Alabama. I think that's a pretty solid first 1:37:04.840 --> 1:37:08.360 two picks, to say the least. Moving forward, I think 1:37:08.439 --> 1:37:10.519 I've yeah, I would go right ahead. I just I 1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:13.639 think you're plucking right from the very top of your board, 1:37:13.800 --> 1:37:15.640 and the fact that that lines up for you in 1:37:15.640 --> 1:37:18.559 the second round is that's awesome. It's a little bit 1:37:18.640 --> 1:37:21.400 of good fortune, and when you're picking from the top 1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:24.160 of your board, it's usually gonna turn out pretty well. 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:27.320 It's gonna turn out well, and then you also go ahead, 1:37:27.400 --> 1:37:31.080 Dave No. I just I got really scared about Diggs 1:37:31.160 --> 1:37:33.000 when we started hearing that he could be the first 1:37:33.080 --> 1:37:34.960 round pick. I think most of y'all would agree with me, 1:37:35.120 --> 1:37:38.400 But it's amazing how your opinion changes about a guy 1:37:38.520 --> 1:37:40.320 the further he falls down the board. The same thing 1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:42.680 for aj Epinessa. I wouldn't want to touch him in 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:45.360 the top thirty, but you're looking at him at fifty one. 1:37:45.400 --> 1:37:48.720 And now you look at Trevon Diggs starting experience in 1:37:48.760 --> 1:37:51.479 the SEC again. I mean I've said it five times already, 1:37:51.560 --> 1:37:54.240 Like he's just rare from a build standpoint, Like you 1:37:54.320 --> 1:37:57.560 don't find cornerbacks that look like him very often, and 1:37:58.080 --> 1:38:00.320 you don't. It would be great if he is good 1:38:00.400 --> 1:38:02.360 enough to step in and start, but you don't need it. 1:38:02.560 --> 1:38:05.280 You've got three guys that can do it. And so 1:38:05.479 --> 1:38:08.240 that gives Al Harris and the rest of the Cowboys 1:38:08.320 --> 1:38:11.080 defensive coaches time to work with him. And this could 1:38:11.120 --> 1:38:13.560 be an even better value next season when you do 1:38:13.680 --> 1:38:15.880 need him to start. I just you know, at this value, 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:18.040 I really really like to pick a lot. This guy 1:38:18.120 --> 1:38:20.560 has played in some big time games. I mean he 1:38:20.640 --> 1:38:24.320 has lined up in national championship games, playoff games. I 1:38:24.400 --> 1:38:27.320 mean he gets coached hard. At Alabama. You ever go 1:38:27.400 --> 1:38:30.400 to an Alabama practice, Nick Saban is yelling at these 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:33.360 kids the whole time. Only Gary Patterson yells at his 1:38:33.479 --> 1:38:36.240 kids more over at TCU. I mean, these kids to 1:38:36.360 --> 1:38:38.439 go play a football game as a break for them. 1:38:38.840 --> 1:38:41.400 They I mean, that's what I like about those Alabama 1:38:41.439 --> 1:38:43.040 kids are a little banged up the way you know, 1:38:43.080 --> 1:38:44.760 they get banged up, beat up because they play a 1:38:44.760 --> 1:38:47.120 lot of football. But man, this kid, I think he'll 1:38:47.200 --> 1:38:50.800 come in here. He'll be competitive, and that's what we need. 1:38:50.840 --> 1:38:52.840 We need some quarterbacks. He'll be compet This kid won't 1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:54.639 let you run across the field and catch the ball 1:38:54.680 --> 1:38:56.519 on him. I mean that guy, it's gonna knock the 1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:58.840 ball down. He'll do that. And kind of going off 1:38:58.880 --> 1:39:01.400 of that, he's still level headed because he's been around 1:39:01.439 --> 1:39:04.120 a pedigree of a family member who's had success in 1:39:04.160 --> 1:39:06.559 the NFL. Of course, his brother Stefon Diggs, the wide 1:39:06.600 --> 1:39:09.720 receiver who had a ton of success in Many Minnesota. 1:39:09.760 --> 1:39:12.000 And then turns around and he goes over to Buffalo. 1:39:12.120 --> 1:39:14.640 We'll see what he does up in Buffalo. But this 1:39:14.880 --> 1:39:18.200 is it's a family that's used to success in the NFL. 1:39:18.560 --> 1:39:21.080 He's been in big time games. He's been a part 1:39:21.160 --> 1:39:24.479 of the bright lights. And I think this is just 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:27.680 a brilliant pick for the Cowboys at fifty one. Now 1:39:28.439 --> 1:39:31.200 a pick has come since the Cowboys were on the 1:39:31.280 --> 1:39:33.920 clock of the Rams take cam Acres. They're running back 1:39:33.960 --> 1:39:37.520 out of Florida State. As I guess the now replacement 1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:40.519 for Todd Gurley, who has departed and gone to Atlanta. 1:39:40.560 --> 1:39:43.280 As we continue here in this second round, Cowboys pick 1:39:43.400 --> 1:39:47.040 next at eighty two. But with the cornerback spot now 1:39:47.240 --> 1:39:50.000 solidified at least early in this part of the draft, 1:39:50.120 --> 1:39:54.400 now your attention shifts to safety, shifts to edge rusher. 1:39:54.479 --> 1:39:57.560 What's now up on the priority list here? Yeah, I 1:39:57.600 --> 1:39:59.679 think you're all over. And by the way, Jalen Hurts 1:40:00.200 --> 1:40:02.800 goes to the Philadelphia Eagles, which to me makes all 1:40:02.880 --> 1:40:05.280 the sense in the world because the Philadelphia Eagles probably 1:40:05.360 --> 1:40:07.400 need to plan to play four to six games without 1:40:07.400 --> 1:40:10.040 their starting quarterback every year, and I think that that's 1:40:10.040 --> 1:40:12.120 a pretty good backup to have, where you've got a 1:40:12.120 --> 1:40:13.720 guy who's got the ability to help you with his 1:40:13.880 --> 1:40:18.160 feet to try to get by until Wentz is healthy again. Yeah, 1:40:18.720 --> 1:40:22.720 corner being addressed and wide receiver being addressed, which I 1:40:22.760 --> 1:40:24.160 know a lot of people didn't think was a need, 1:40:24.240 --> 1:40:26.479 but I did because you were missing a starter there, 1:40:26.800 --> 1:40:34.439 and yeah, and uh safety, defensive line, and you know, 1:40:34.560 --> 1:40:36.320 they seemed like they were showing some interest in the 1:40:36.360 --> 1:40:38.639 linebackers at the top of this draft. Rybe even there 1:40:38.680 --> 1:40:41.640 as well. Yeah, probably looking all over the defense, just 1:40:42.000 --> 1:40:45.639 not at and I think you still could look at corner. Yeah, 1:40:45.720 --> 1:40:48.599 I wouldn't be surprised if they double dipped at corner 1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:51.160 at all. I mean I know that. You know, Stephen 1:40:51.240 --> 1:40:53.479 Jones came on our station was talking about, well, a 1:40:53.560 --> 1:40:55.920 linebacker maybe not early, it's not a concern right now. 1:40:56.360 --> 1:40:59.000 I know for a fact they like Logan Wilson from 1:40:59.320 --> 1:41:01.960 from Wyoming. I do too. And you know, and you're 1:41:02.000 --> 1:41:04.120 talking about a guy that that could be. You know, 1:41:04.160 --> 1:41:06.760 he's kind of a throwbacks linebacker. He's always you know, 1:41:06.840 --> 1:41:08.760 he drops at cabbage and there's the ball, he's up. Oh, 1:41:08.840 --> 1:41:11.720 he's tackling a guy. He never misses tackles, you know. 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:14.800 Willie Gay was another guy we talked about. Uh, you know, 1:41:15.400 --> 1:41:17.920 we've mentioned maybe that's the spot. There's I just feel 1:41:18.000 --> 1:41:21.640 like now there's defensive ends, there's linebackers, and there's some 1:41:21.800 --> 1:41:23.720 safeties that they could even go. They can stay on 1:41:23.760 --> 1:41:26.240 that defensive side of the ball and be really really 1:41:26.320 --> 1:41:29.960 happy with that direction. I think defense is still where 1:41:30.000 --> 1:41:32.600 you have to go here, and whether it's safety or 1:41:32.680 --> 1:41:34.719 edge rusher, I still think there's gonna be some names 1:41:34.960 --> 1:41:39.559 available at eighty two as well. Then twenty twenty NFL 1:41:39.680 --> 1:41:43.240 Draft continued on one o five three The Fan and 1:41:43.520 --> 1:41:46.960 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Welcome back. It's Jeff Kavanaugh and 1:41:47.080 --> 1:41:49.080 Brian brought us from one oh five three the Fan, 1:41:49.280 --> 1:41:53.600 along with Dane Brugler, Dave Hellman, and Kyle Yeoman's on 1:41:53.800 --> 1:41:56.519 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. A simulcaster that you have all 1:41:56.560 --> 1:41:58.880 your best friends with you right here as we do 1:41:59.040 --> 1:42:01.800 the NFL Draft. At fifty one, the Dallas Cowboys went 1:42:01.880 --> 1:42:06.000 with Trevon Diggs, the Alabama cornerback who we thought there 1:42:06.120 --> 1:42:08.960 was a chance in some circumstances he could have been 1:42:09.000 --> 1:42:11.800 picked at seventeen by the Cowboys. So I bet when 1:42:11.840 --> 1:42:14.719 we get a press conference at the conclusion of today's round, 1:42:15.160 --> 1:42:17.799 we will hear something similar to what we heard yesterday 1:42:17.840 --> 1:42:20.120 in terms of the dude was right there at the 1:42:20.160 --> 1:42:23.200 top of our board and we kind of had to 1:42:23.280 --> 1:42:25.360 pick him, and it falls into position a need for 1:42:25.439 --> 1:42:28.719 the Cowboys. At fifty two, the Rams took Cam Akers, 1:42:28.760 --> 1:42:31.720 the Florida State running back, and at fifty three, the 1:42:31.840 --> 1:42:36.800 Philadelphia Eagles just took Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma quarterback, which to 1:42:36.920 --> 1:42:40.160 me makes a lot of sense. I had him more 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:42.640 as a third round guy but I think of the 1:42:42.760 --> 1:42:44.840 guys you would hope to develop, he gives you a 1:42:44.960 --> 1:42:46.719 chance to win games when he has to play, because 1:42:46.760 --> 1:42:48.840 you start using his legs and you make it hard 1:42:48.880 --> 1:42:52.200 for teams to defend. So Trevon Diggs to the Cowboys, 1:42:52.520 --> 1:42:55.880 cam Akers to the Rams, and Jalen Hurts to the 1:42:55.960 --> 1:42:58.960 Philadelphia Eagles. Dane, how you like that pairing with Hurts 1:42:59.000 --> 1:43:02.479 in Philly? It is interesting? Um, And you kind of 1:43:02.520 --> 1:43:04.639 set it up with you know, they have a quarterback 1:43:04.720 --> 1:43:07.840 who's really talented, but for him to start all sixteen games, 1:43:08.040 --> 1:43:10.599 you know that's the question mark. And so you bring 1:43:10.680 --> 1:43:13.200 in Hurts for your number two. You got to change 1:43:13.200 --> 1:43:15.160 your offensive around a little bit because this is a 1:43:15.200 --> 1:43:19.440 player who anticipation wise, uh in terms of reading coverages, 1:43:20.040 --> 1:43:22.080 not exactly where you want. And so I think this 1:43:22.280 --> 1:43:24.479 is much earlier than I would have taken Jalen Hurts. 1:43:24.520 --> 1:43:26.760 But he's the type of leader, the type of guy 1:43:26.840 --> 1:43:29.560 you want your locker room, want your quarterback room. H 1:43:29.920 --> 1:43:32.400 And so I don't if I'm a Cowboys fan, am 1:43:32.439 --> 1:43:35.479 I do? I see this pick and say, yeah, you know, 1:43:35.760 --> 1:43:37.280 is that doesn't worry made that much? I mean that 1:43:37.320 --> 1:43:39.280 that's kind I would feel if I was a Dallas fan, 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:41.000 I was kind of hopeful that he would have got 1:43:41.120 --> 1:43:43.799 to Dallas in the third round. Yeah, I was interested 1:43:43.920 --> 1:43:45.960 a little. Yeah, I was interested and if he would 1:43:45.960 --> 1:43:48.360 have done that if he'd been there, because you know, 1:43:48.520 --> 1:43:51.360 I think Jerry Jones is you know, those Monday morning meetings. 1:43:51.439 --> 1:43:53.360 He comes in and he starts talking about, did you 1:43:53.400 --> 1:43:55.800 guys see the Ravens play last night? You know, and 1:43:55.960 --> 1:43:59.840 and I know they're they're they're different. He's not the 1:44:00.200 --> 1:44:02.479 but but that kind of attack, you know, where you 1:44:02.600 --> 1:44:06.120 put pressure on defenses with the ability to run and 1:44:06.200 --> 1:44:09.080 the ball handling and stuff like that. You know. I mean, 1:44:09.160 --> 1:44:11.800 he probably wishes his starting quarterback would do a little 1:44:11.800 --> 1:44:14.240 bit more of that, but he was always fascinated with 1:44:14.360 --> 1:44:16.560 what was going on with that kind of scheme. We 1:44:16.680 --> 1:44:19.160 got the Buffalo Bills on the clock at fifty four. 1:44:19.360 --> 1:44:21.840 But we also have for you the secret audio of 1:44:21.960 --> 1:44:25.240 Trevon Diggs being drafted by the Dallas Cowboys, which is 1:44:25.320 --> 1:44:27.640 always great. We love that that we get that for you. 1:44:27.960 --> 1:44:30.799 So here it is Trevon Diggs being picked for the Cowboys. 1:44:31.240 --> 1:44:33.720 Thank you, Strayvon. This is Will McClay with the Cowboys 1:44:34.400 --> 1:44:40.120 have somebody that wants to speak to you, dear, how 1:44:40.200 --> 1:44:44.679 you doing cook? Hey, this is Jerry. How you gonna listen? Listen? 1:44:44.760 --> 1:44:47.360 We're I'm proud to tell you because I'm proud of 1:44:47.479 --> 1:44:51.840 it too. You've got a star on your helmet. Thank you, 1:44:52.520 --> 1:44:56.160 thank you. Well, I appreciate that alone. Well, I sure, 1:44:56.680 --> 1:44:59.880 I'm enjoy our time, our interview and talking to you 1:45:00.160 --> 1:45:06.160 and um, everybody or potential coaches, and we're all excited 1:45:06.200 --> 1:45:09.439 about that you're getting in here. And what we're were 1:45:09.600 --> 1:45:13.479 most excited about is the improvement that you can make. Everybody. 1:45:13.880 --> 1:45:19.040 The word is he can get better. He can get better. Now, now, 1:45:19.080 --> 1:45:21.080 remember what I told you. If anybody ever tells you 1:45:21.200 --> 1:45:23.960 that gives you something for nothing, they're lying to you. 1:45:24.800 --> 1:45:26.560 So if you're gonna have to go to work, but 1:45:26.640 --> 1:45:29.400 if you go to work, you'll get something. Okay, you 1:45:29.439 --> 1:45:33.920 can do. Yes, I got your coach, hey, man, so 1:45:34.120 --> 1:45:37.519 pride your capital worker. Here's something. Um, here's your coach 1:45:38.160 --> 1:45:40.160 and he wants to skate with. I want to transfer 1:45:40.240 --> 1:45:44.240 your Dray Vaughan for birthday? How you do? How are 1:45:44.240 --> 1:45:48.400 you doing right now? He congratulations on being the Dallas 1:45:48.439 --> 1:45:52.080 com do. Excited to have you soone. I apprecaid everything. 1:45:52.200 --> 1:45:55.759 Thank you, they do me a favorite. You're a bummer 1:45:55.840 --> 1:45:59.880 with your family. God bless and just keep doing what 1:46:00.000 --> 1:46:02.400 your dog you just self Freddie and really look forward 1:46:02.439 --> 1:46:06.800 to working with Tea and went some championships. All right, 1:46:06.840 --> 1:46:08.960 Well man, do you take care of Thank you so much? 1:46:10.760 --> 1:46:12.479 All right, So I'm gonna go with Will McClay and 1:46:12.560 --> 1:46:15.720 Mike McCarthy and try to not screw this up every day. 1:46:15.720 --> 1:46:18.320 And it sounds like it's Trayvon Diggs and not Treyvon 1:46:18.479 --> 1:46:20.599 like I've been saying. Oh I've been saying that too. 1:46:20.720 --> 1:46:27.240 Damn Trayvon. Is that Diggs? Okay? Confirmed? Trayvon Diggs cornerback 1:46:27.400 --> 1:46:31.360 for your Dallas Cowboys and aj Epinessa's slide ends at 1:46:31.479 --> 1:46:36.200 Buffalo at number fifty four and Baltimore at fifty five. 1:46:36.400 --> 1:46:38.880 Is on the clock. I love when Jerry talks because 1:46:38.880 --> 1:46:41.920 you never know where he's gonna meander two just like, yeah, 1:46:41.960 --> 1:46:44.360 we're happy to have you. And remember I told you 1:46:44.520 --> 1:46:49.760 story nothing for free ever? Will all right, dude, Jerry voice, well, 1:46:50.240 --> 1:46:53.400 trey Von you remember no he went, Treyvon. You remember 1:46:53.479 --> 1:46:56.160 I told you Netting's free. Somebody gives you a carton 1:46:56.200 --> 1:46:58.679 of milk. You better believe they're gonna come back round 1:46:58.760 --> 1:47:01.200 two weeks from man and one something from you, probably 1:47:01.280 --> 1:47:03.719 pair of kick something like that. I'm a little scared 1:47:03.760 --> 1:47:07.439 right now. You just never heard your Jerry. It's very good, 1:47:07.479 --> 1:47:11.000 it is great. Well, that is Arry. That's what's scary 1:47:11.040 --> 1:47:13.280 about it, Dave. You've been meaning to talk to you 1:47:13.439 --> 1:47:16.880 man facts to save you for about three weeks. Talk 1:47:16.920 --> 1:47:20.519 to you about a furlough. Please. That's not funny. That's 1:47:20.520 --> 1:47:22.680 not funny. That's really not And I apologize for that. 1:47:22.760 --> 1:47:24.560 That was a terrible joke and I didn't mean it. 1:47:24.640 --> 1:47:28.600 And I love everybody. Um okay. So aj Epanessa is 1:47:28.640 --> 1:47:30.320 off the board, and now we are looking at the 1:47:30.360 --> 1:47:33.240 Baltimore Ravens, who earlier in this draft took Patrick Queen 1:47:33.400 --> 1:47:37.599 already linebacker out of LSU, and they are back up 1:47:37.640 --> 1:47:40.720 on the clock at fifty five. Who has got a 1:47:40.880 --> 1:47:44.639 handle on what they may be looking at here? Running back? Sorry? 1:47:45.120 --> 1:47:47.640 Go Dan, well along the lines of what you were 1:47:47.640 --> 1:47:50.040 just saying, what am I missing on? JK. Dobbins? Why 1:47:50.120 --> 1:47:52.120 is he still around? I think that needs to be 1:47:52.200 --> 1:47:54.720 the pick, honestly, Dane, I'm right there. JK Dobbins to me, 1:47:54.960 --> 1:47:57.200 was the best back in this draft, and I am 1:47:57.680 --> 1:48:02.120 shocked that he not shocked that the three Taylor Edwards, 1:48:02.160 --> 1:48:05.439 A Laire and Swift went ahead of him. I'm shocked 1:48:05.479 --> 1:48:08.800 cam Akers went ahead of them. Yeah, well, cam Akers 1:48:08.880 --> 1:48:11.880 to fifty two to the Rams, and you're still sitting 1:48:11.920 --> 1:48:14.439 here looking for Dobbins to come off the board. I 1:48:14.479 --> 1:48:17.160 think this is one of those Ravens picks that the 1:48:17.320 --> 1:48:19.519 fact that he's still sitting here, you're looking up at 1:48:19.520 --> 1:48:21.600 the board and saying, oh my gosh, he fell in 1:48:21.680 --> 1:48:24.080 our lap. Let's go ahead and pare Dobbins with mark 1:48:24.280 --> 1:48:26.720 Ingram in that backfield with Lamar Jackson and add some 1:48:26.840 --> 1:48:30.519 firepower to that offense that really doesn't need any Yeah. 1:48:30.720 --> 1:48:33.320 I wonder if you're Baltimore. I know they don't target 1:48:33.400 --> 1:48:36.519 their receivers a ton or as much as anyone else 1:48:36.560 --> 1:48:39.519 in the league, but with some of those guys available, 1:48:39.520 --> 1:48:42.800 maybe you look that way. But Mint is still there. Yeah. 1:48:42.960 --> 1:48:46.080 To Dane's point, you know what Baltimore has done consistently 1:48:46.360 --> 1:48:48.280 over the six years that I've been doing the draft. 1:48:49.000 --> 1:48:53.479 They take the guys I want, so they which means 1:48:53.560 --> 1:48:56.160 if I want them, obviously they must be good. So 1:48:56.320 --> 1:48:59.160 that means the Ravens are good at this and if JK. 1:48:59.320 --> 1:49:01.639 Dobbins is that needed to come off the board quickly, 1:49:01.880 --> 1:49:04.040 they'll probably be the team to do it because they 1:49:04.200 --> 1:49:06.479 love to snatch up the good players that just fall 1:49:06.560 --> 1:49:09.920 in their lap. I think the Ravens just take the 1:49:10.080 --> 1:49:12.560 best guy available way more often than not. Honestly, I 1:49:12.960 --> 1:49:17.320 had that thought earlier. Today. It's like, man, Cowboys really 1:49:17.360 --> 1:49:19.960 had a Ravens moment with Ceedee Lamb and maybe not 1:49:20.120 --> 1:49:22.240 as big of a steal, but it feels like they 1:49:22.320 --> 1:49:25.040 did it again with Treyvon Diggs. Is like, Hey, if 1:49:25.040 --> 1:49:26.880 you none of y'all want these really good players that 1:49:27.000 --> 1:49:30.599 keep dropping midway through the round, we'll gladly take them. Yeah, 1:49:30.880 --> 1:49:35.360 So JK. Dobbins best back available, my guy, Zach Moss 1:49:35.560 --> 1:49:39.439 probably behind him, and we shall see how many running 1:49:39.479 --> 1:49:41.080 backs are going off the board and get I think 1:49:41.120 --> 1:49:44.000 eighty two is too far away to be cheering for 1:49:44.160 --> 1:49:46.200 positions or is it ever too far away or we 1:49:46.280 --> 1:49:49.760 just pulling for all for all offense? It's too far away, 1:49:49.880 --> 1:49:52.880 we got I mean, there's basically thirty picks until the 1:49:52.960 --> 1:49:55.200 Cowboys are on the clock. I can't start worrying about 1:49:55.240 --> 1:49:58.000 that until like pick until probably the start of the 1:49:58.000 --> 1:50:01.080 third You don't have your shortlist ready. Everybody but Zach Bond. 1:50:01.200 --> 1:50:03.400 Let's just let's draft like that. Oh, that'd be great. 1:50:03.880 --> 1:50:06.479 I've got it. Honestly, it's fun I mean funny how 1:50:06.560 --> 1:50:08.680 this works. I went Terrell Burgess if they and then 1:50:08.720 --> 1:50:12.360 they would have hit basically my exact draft that I 1:50:12.360 --> 1:50:14.439 would want, and that would match Dane's mock. You gave 1:50:14.520 --> 1:50:17.040 them dicks, didn't you. Let's make it happen. Let's let's 1:50:17.120 --> 1:50:20.160 speak it into existence. I think be great. I think yeah, 1:50:20.240 --> 1:50:22.320 Jeremy Chin, I don't think he's have to wait much 1:50:22.400 --> 1:50:25.639 longer here. He'll be a safety off the board. Ashton 1:50:25.800 --> 1:50:28.799 Davis from Cal I think is another safety who belongs 1:50:29.120 --> 1:50:32.320 somewhere in the top seventy picks. But then Terrell Burgess, 1:50:32.360 --> 1:50:33.960 he I think he's the next safety to go and 1:50:34.240 --> 1:50:36.240 should be in the mix for the Cowboys next round. 1:50:36.800 --> 1:50:39.040 I'm just a big fan of his ability to play 1:50:39.040 --> 1:50:41.080 a lot of different spots. You know, you have to 1:50:41.120 --> 1:50:43.040 find him. He's got a similar number to one of 1:50:43.120 --> 1:50:47.120 his teammates. Yes, you don't know if you spend a 1:50:47.200 --> 1:50:49.559 whole half trying to find him. You're like going, oh, 1:50:49.600 --> 1:50:51.880 there he is, and then like, oh he made another player. Okay, 1:50:51.920 --> 1:50:53.720 then you gotta run it back. You know, Oh I 1:50:53.760 --> 1:50:55.200 missed him because I thought it was the other guy. 1:50:55.400 --> 1:50:57.680 Now he's down at the line, now he's yeah. So no. 1:50:57.840 --> 1:51:00.280 This is a guy though that when you talk about him, 1:51:00.800 --> 1:51:04.360 he's all over the field. He makes plays. You know, 1:51:04.400 --> 1:51:06.160 you could put him in coverage and things like that. 1:51:06.320 --> 1:51:08.720 I mean, I like the I like the player there 1:51:08.880 --> 1:51:10.840 at If you could get him to your pick in 1:51:10.880 --> 1:51:12.679 the third round, I think that would be a huge get. 1:51:12.840 --> 1:51:14.680 That would be a little I'm a little scared that 1:51:14.720 --> 1:51:17.360 the Dolphins of fifty six, who pick right after the Ravens. 1:51:17.400 --> 1:51:19.720 By the way, Baltimore's pick is in. We haven't had 1:51:19.720 --> 1:51:22.439 an announced yet, but I think the Dolphins could maybe 1:51:22.520 --> 1:51:25.040 go safety there. You talk about some of the picks 1:51:25.120 --> 1:51:27.040 that they've made. They picked up a corner and no 1:51:27.200 --> 1:51:29.640 egg bnogady in the middle of the draft, and I 1:51:29.720 --> 1:51:32.479 don't know, I feel like the Dolphins could potentially snatch 1:51:32.560 --> 1:51:33.920 one of those guys. I don't know if it'll be 1:51:34.080 --> 1:51:39.200 specifically Terrell Burgess or Jeremy Chin, but I think they 1:51:39.280 --> 1:51:42.479 may at least look in that direction. Well, and Kyle, 1:51:42.600 --> 1:51:46.080 I think it's really important to have somebody on the 1:51:46.160 --> 1:51:48.720 show constantly try to bring the room down. And I 1:51:48.840 --> 1:51:52.040 always that I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah, we're out here 1:51:52.080 --> 1:51:53.720 trying to get our safety and you're trying to send 1:51:53.800 --> 1:51:55.040 them all off the board. And I think if you 1:51:55.120 --> 1:51:57.720 must think, you would think the new guy is like 1:51:57.880 --> 1:52:00.479 bright eyed and bushy tails. Yeah, he's just trying bush 1:52:00.479 --> 1:52:03.120 He's trying to kill everybody's mood hater right out of 1:52:03.120 --> 1:52:05.479 the gate. Who would have thought, I'm just a realist guy. 1:52:06.000 --> 1:52:08.960 That's all it is. You know, Hey, as the resident realist. 1:52:09.040 --> 1:52:11.600 I'm glad somebody's taken over for me. See, that's it. 1:52:11.800 --> 1:52:13.800 That's the reason it's Dave. Dave and I have spent 1:52:13.880 --> 1:52:17.000 too much time together over the past four months. Dave 1:52:17.080 --> 1:52:19.160 likes to have somebody try to push him around, So 1:52:19.360 --> 1:52:21.120 that's what you need to do. I think he misses 1:52:21.160 --> 1:52:25.120 Brian doing that. So here is the Baltimore Baltimore Ravens pick. 1:52:25.200 --> 1:52:31.200 Here's the commissioner with the fifty fifth pick in the 1:52:31.280 --> 1:52:36.120 twenty twenty NFL Draft for Baltimore Ravens select JK. Dobbins, 1:52:36.840 --> 1:52:39.840 running back Ohio State all right, Dane, you feel like 1:52:39.920 --> 1:52:41.800 you've been waiting way too long to do this, but 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:44.760 rip off his scouting report real quick. What are the 1:52:44.840 --> 1:52:47.240 Ravens do. In the first round? They stay where they 1:52:47.280 --> 1:52:50.280 were and they got Patrick Queen. In the second round, 1:52:50.400 --> 1:52:53.240 they stay where they were, They got JK. Dobbins. Two 1:52:53.360 --> 1:52:56.120 terriffic players, Dobbins. Some guys were just born to play 1:52:56.240 --> 1:52:58.400 running back, and Dobbins is that guy. His ability to 1:52:58.560 --> 1:53:01.360 read and hit the whole at the perfect time is 1:53:01.400 --> 1:53:03.920 just a really unique skill. And then once he gets 1:53:03.920 --> 1:53:07.000 to the second level, he can make defenders miss. He's 1:53:07.080 --> 1:53:11.000 a reliable pass catcher of the backfield, just a really 1:53:11.040 --> 1:53:13.559 solid back. Who I mean, you look at the Ravens 1:53:13.640 --> 1:53:17.800 and that backfield with mark Ingram Lamar Jackson. You had JK. 1:53:18.000 --> 1:53:20.880 Dobbins to that mix. That's the makings of a pretty 1:53:20.920 --> 1:53:23.920 fun offense. JK. Dobbins to the Ravens. The Miami Dolphins 1:53:23.960 --> 1:53:25.640 are on the clock. Kyle is trying to get them 1:53:25.680 --> 1:53:27.680 to take a player that the Cowboys want. It's a 1:53:27.800 --> 1:53:32.479 real safety. Join the Dallas Cowboys and raising vital funds 1:53:32.560 --> 1:53:35.479 for the Salvation Army by participating in the twenty twenty 1:53:35.600 --> 1:53:39.200 NFL Draft that thon a three day virtual fundraiser aimed 1:53:39.200 --> 1:53:42.439 at helping communities impacted by the COVID nineteen health crisis. 1:53:42.920 --> 1:53:47.200 Learn more at NFL dot com slash Relief. We'll be 1:53:47.280 --> 1:53:49.639 back with the Dolphins pick as we continue on here. 1:53:49.680 --> 1:53:52.120 You're listening to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one 1:53:52.160 --> 1:53:55.200 oh five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 1:53:57.400 --> 1:53:59.840 And here we are on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com thing. 1:53:59.880 --> 1:54:02.840 I still believe we're still on the social sites up 1:54:02.920 --> 1:54:06.880 until eight o'clock or so. But we could continue rolling 1:54:06.920 --> 1:54:08.880 along here. In the back half of the second round, 1:54:08.920 --> 1:54:11.519 Cowboys that made their selection, it was Trayvon Diggs now 1:54:11.920 --> 1:54:16.800 j JK. Dobbins off of the board, Dolphins, Rams, Vikings, Seahawks, 1:54:16.880 --> 1:54:19.439 and then the Ravens back up again within the next 1:54:19.640 --> 1:54:23.040 five picks. So I mentioned safety here, you could also 1:54:23.160 --> 1:54:25.639 maybe throw in a corner. I know they did select 1:54:25.920 --> 1:54:30.320 Noah Igbonogamy, but any needs out there, Dane that you 1:54:30.479 --> 1:54:33.680 kind of see the Dolphins, maybe honey on here. This 1:54:33.920 --> 1:54:35.840 is the Dolphins have so many needs. I mean, they 1:54:35.840 --> 1:54:37.960 can go in a lot of different directions, but can 1:54:38.000 --> 1:54:41.080 we see a safety here? Maybe this is where maybe 1:54:41.200 --> 1:54:46.200 we could see Jeremy Chin and Nashton Davis. You know, 1:54:46.280 --> 1:54:48.520 I think when you look at some of their needs. 1:54:48.680 --> 1:54:51.080 Christian Fulton, they went corn on the first so probably 1:54:51.120 --> 1:54:55.360 not there. Could they go edge rusher, Curtis Weaver. Possibly? 1:54:55.800 --> 1:54:57.760 They have a lot of different directions they need to add. 1:54:57.920 --> 1:55:01.200 The Dolphins have fourteen picks in his draft, so they 1:55:01.240 --> 1:55:03.680 are not going to be shy making picks over the 1:55:03.760 --> 1:55:06.760 course of the night in tomorrow. What about interior defensive line, 1:55:06.800 --> 1:55:10.240 because before the Cowboys picked, brought us and I were 1:55:10.320 --> 1:55:12.200 kind of talking back and forth about some of those 1:55:12.320 --> 1:55:14.640 d tackles that are still available. And you still have 1:55:14.800 --> 1:55:17.680 Matta Bouque out there or Mattabek excuse me, Jordan Elliot's 1:55:17.680 --> 1:55:21.280 still out there. Gallimore's their vote to Rae Kwon Davis 1:55:21.360 --> 1:55:23.440 even if you wanted to throw that name into the mix, 1:55:23.520 --> 1:55:26.360 A Brian, Are those some kind of guys that maybe 1:55:26.440 --> 1:55:28.920 Miami would be interested in? Yeah? The thing with Matta 1:55:28.960 --> 1:55:32.920 Bouque Mattabike is that we you know, it's like we 1:55:33.080 --> 1:55:36.160 watch the tape and see the tape and swatch him play, right, 1:55:36.480 --> 1:55:39.880 but what's behind the scenes, you know, is he interviewing 1:55:40.040 --> 1:55:42.960 bad is he a bad character guy? I mean, there's 1:55:43.000 --> 1:55:45.240 things that we don't know about some of these players, 1:55:45.400 --> 1:55:47.200 and you put him where you think he's going to be, 1:55:48.080 --> 1:55:50.120 you know, on the board, and give him his due, 1:55:50.560 --> 1:55:53.440 But maybe there's something that is keeping him from being 1:55:53.560 --> 1:55:56.960 selected at this time. So it looks like the commissioner 1:55:57.160 --> 1:55:59.720 the pick is in. The commissioner is reading it right now, 1:56:00.320 --> 1:56:02.840 so I will give it to you as we're going 1:56:02.880 --> 1:56:05.640 along here, let's see it's a oh, the Dolphins take 1:56:05.800 --> 1:56:09.920 ray Kuon Davis, defensive tackle from Alabama? Is who they take? 1:56:10.520 --> 1:56:13.760 All right, Dane Scouting report time on mister ray Kwon 1:56:13.920 --> 1:56:18.720 Davis here looks a lot better than he plays. I 1:56:18.800 --> 1:56:22.520 mean he's a monster because he's one of those tools 1:56:22.640 --> 1:56:25.560 versus production kind of guys. Yeah, and I'm not even 1:56:25.640 --> 1:56:27.600 sure sure the tools are all that great. He just 1:56:27.720 --> 1:56:31.200 looks great, but he's not the most agile player. I 1:56:31.200 --> 1:56:33.080 don't think he's gonna give you a ton of pass rush. 1:56:33.440 --> 1:56:36.400 His strength is going to be using that length, using 1:56:36.480 --> 1:56:39.840 that size to take on multiple blocks clog up your 1:56:39.920 --> 1:56:42.760 run lanes, and you need those guys. So not to 1:56:43.280 --> 1:56:45.080 say this is a bad pick by any means, I mean, 1:56:45.120 --> 1:56:47.320 I think he was not a first round pick here 1:56:47.360 --> 1:56:49.800 outside the top fifty. This is where he should have gone. 1:56:49.840 --> 1:56:52.280 And I think the Dolphins are adding a player who 1:56:52.320 --> 1:56:55.400 can be a solid run stuffer and maybe give you 1:56:55.400 --> 1:56:57.240 a little bit of pass rush value. We'll see if 1:56:57.280 --> 1:56:59.040 he can develop that part of his game. Yeah, I 1:56:59.120 --> 1:57:02.520 thought Kyle he played a lot better earlier than late. 1:57:02.920 --> 1:57:06.200 You watch some late late games at Alabama, and he 1:57:06.440 --> 1:57:09.880 was not very good, you know. And I sometimes he 1:57:09.960 --> 1:57:12.640 won't stay square when he plays, He'll get turned, he'll 1:57:12.720 --> 1:57:15.800 jump around blocks, you know, he'll lose his balance, he 1:57:15.880 --> 1:57:19.200 struggles with quickness against him, you know. And I just 1:57:20.080 --> 1:57:22.520 I'm with Dane on this. So I was expecting a 1:57:22.600 --> 1:57:25.320 better player, and it it just was that the more 1:57:25.400 --> 1:57:28.000 film I watched, the more I just became disenchanted with 1:57:28.080 --> 1:57:30.600 the player though well. And I think the one part 1:57:30.640 --> 1:57:32.520 of his game that he was consistent in, at least 1:57:32.520 --> 1:57:35.000 in watching film was probably run stopping, correct. I mean, 1:57:35.160 --> 1:57:37.560 I feel like that was really his go to, his 1:57:37.640 --> 1:57:40.120 bread and butter of of what made him enticing in 1:57:40.160 --> 1:57:42.120 the middle of the second round. He had seven sacks 1:57:42.160 --> 1:57:44.600 in the past for USh his sophomore season, but after 1:57:44.720 --> 1:57:47.000 that it was really kind of sparse in that regard. 1:57:47.080 --> 1:57:49.960 Now we are going to go off of the social sites. 1:57:50.000 --> 1:57:52.440 You can go online and go to the Cowboys app 1:57:52.440 --> 1:57:54.880 and then Dallas Cowboys dot com to watch the show 1:57:54.960 --> 1:57:57.240 from here. Of course, we are continuing on one oh 1:57:57.280 --> 1:57:58.960 five three the Fan. But before I do that, do 1:57:59.040 --> 1:58:01.320 want to remind you that the Draft show is reminded 1:58:01.440 --> 1:58:04.520 or is sponsored by Miller Light. 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Welcome 1:59:16.440 --> 1:59:19.680 back the Dallas Cowboys Cede Lamb in round one, tray 1:59:19.760 --> 1:59:24.040 Von Diggs, cornerback out of Alabama in round two. According 1:59:24.120 --> 1:59:26.240 to all five of us, I believe you would say 1:59:26.320 --> 1:59:28.920 they are doing quite well in this NFL draft, the 1:59:29.000 --> 1:59:33.160 first one under new head coach Mike McCarthy. And we're 1:59:33.200 --> 1:59:35.760 cruising along in this draft. Currently we are looking at 1:59:35.880 --> 1:59:40.000 number fifty seven. The La Rams will be making that 1:59:40.160 --> 1:59:43.160 pick as we creep our way towards eighty two and 1:59:43.280 --> 1:59:46.280 the Dallas Cowboys next selection, where we still got some 1:59:46.360 --> 1:59:49.280 players that we're cheering for to make it to eighty two. 1:59:49.400 --> 1:59:51.200 And this maybe this is gonna be the first year 1:59:51.240 --> 1:59:53.200 where they just draft all of the guys that we 1:59:53.280 --> 1:59:55.480 want them to draft, and everybody's in agreement and it 1:59:55.560 --> 1:59:57.240 turns out none of them can play, and we don't 1:59:57.280 --> 1:59:59.400 know what we're doing. Yeah, I'm all about Jerry Jones 1:59:59.520 --> 2:00:01.640 kicking them scouts and coaches out of that. You know 2:00:01.760 --> 2:00:03.960 at that room. Let him just draft these players. Man, 2:00:04.000 --> 2:00:06.880 he's doing our I don't think that's what's happening. It's 2:00:06.920 --> 2:00:09.280 not happening. Don't think that's what's happening. I think what's happening. 2:00:09.280 --> 2:00:13.360 I think this is the scouts draft. I think that's 2:00:13.400 --> 2:00:15.240 why we agree with the pick so much. I think 2:00:15.280 --> 2:00:18.080 they let the scouts do their work, and the coaching 2:00:18.120 --> 2:00:20.520 staff said, yeah, pick the best players and give them that. 2:00:21.120 --> 2:00:22.880 It's really if he came in and just took over 2:00:22.920 --> 2:00:25.480 and said, no, we're gonna draft these players, will Jerry. 2:00:26.080 --> 2:00:29.040 It's all about Jerry. Jerry, He's got this thing under control. 2:00:29.280 --> 2:00:31.480 It's really ironic because I wanted to play a game 2:00:31.560 --> 2:00:35.160 with with y'all this year where we charted who was 2:00:35.200 --> 2:00:39.320 available at the pick and who we wanted and who 2:00:39.400 --> 2:00:41.160 they took, and that would you know, it would give 2:00:41.240 --> 2:00:43.560 us receipts of who was right and who was wrong 2:00:43.680 --> 2:00:46.320 two or three years from now. But I think we're 2:00:46.320 --> 2:00:48.880 all in agreement through the first two rounds were close. 2:00:49.080 --> 2:00:50.600 I mean, I guess I would have to keep my 2:00:50.680 --> 2:00:53.800 eye on the careers of Zach Bond and Christian Fulton. Yeah, 2:00:53.880 --> 2:00:55.800 but I don't think I don't think anybody, you know, 2:00:55.840 --> 2:00:58.200 And and they chose one of my top three that yeah, 2:00:58.440 --> 2:01:00.520 and you know, I don't think any but he's gonna 2:01:00.600 --> 2:01:03.600 kill him for for digs over those two, you know, 2:01:03.720 --> 2:01:06.160 the way that happened with t J. Watt and Taco 2:01:06.400 --> 2:01:09.080 or some of the other choices that they've made, not 2:01:09.240 --> 2:01:11.680 at all. So those were those were both picks that 2:01:12.200 --> 2:01:15.160 you look the other direction and automatically said, I would 2:01:15.280 --> 2:01:17.920 rather have that guy. I want that guy, not the 2:01:18.000 --> 2:01:20.600 one that we have. That's just not the case this year, right, 2:01:20.640 --> 2:01:22.640 And hey, trust me, Kyle, there have been a few 2:01:22.760 --> 2:01:25.320 years where we've all been sitting around looking at each other, like, 2:01:25.520 --> 2:01:28.360 who wants to say something nice about this guy? First 2:01:28.600 --> 2:01:33.560 happened a couple of times. Six years. Yeah, it happened 2:01:33.560 --> 2:01:36.960 a few times. Yeah, a few times. All right, anybody 2:01:37.000 --> 2:01:39.320 got to handle on what you think the rams might 2:01:39.400 --> 2:01:41.640 be interested in here. They went running back with their 2:01:41.760 --> 2:01:45.160 last pick, right, they went cam Acres and now they're 2:01:45.240 --> 2:01:48.320 back up here on the clock about treated. Yeah, they 2:01:48.400 --> 2:01:52.960 just traded Brandon Cooks. Um go back wide receiver? Replace 2:01:53.120 --> 2:01:55.880 that need Denzel Mims? Come on down? Or are we? 2:01:56.080 --> 2:01:58.440 Are we a little bit too high on Denzel Mims 2:01:58.560 --> 2:02:02.880 based on his postseason stuff? But I loved his Senior Bowl, 2:02:02.960 --> 2:02:05.400 loved his combine, and liked his tape, so I feel 2:02:05.400 --> 2:02:07.560 like second rounds a good spot for him. The pick 2:02:07.720 --> 2:02:09.880 for the Rams is in and here is the commissioner. 2:02:13.840 --> 2:02:17.120 With the fifty seventh pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 2:02:17.520 --> 2:02:23.240 the Los Angeles Rams select Van Jefferson wide receiver Florida. 2:02:23.520 --> 2:02:26.240 There you go, No Van Jefferson wide receiver at Florida. 2:02:26.360 --> 2:02:28.320 Somebody else can give their scouting report if you like. 2:02:28.440 --> 2:02:30.720 I just want you to know that I feel like 2:02:30.840 --> 2:02:33.680 he had an unfair advantage. His dad, Sean is the 2:02:33.760 --> 2:02:36.720 wide receiver coach for the Jets, so probably had good 2:02:36.760 --> 2:02:39.240 teaching and that would explain being a really good route runner. 2:02:39.240 --> 2:02:42.640 But Van Jefferson is going to be going to the Rams. Daane, 2:02:42.680 --> 2:02:45.800 you want to go scouting report? The Jets didn't draft him, 2:02:45.840 --> 2:02:49.040 so how good is he? Okay? Good question, good question. 2:02:50.240 --> 2:02:52.280 This is a player who when he was at Old Miss. 2:02:52.440 --> 2:02:54.760 He transferred to Florida. When he was at Old Miss 2:02:54.920 --> 2:02:58.080 with AJ Brown and DK Metcalf and all the talent 2:02:58.160 --> 2:03:00.720 they had there, there were scouts that were saying, who's 2:03:00.800 --> 2:03:04.400 this kid? Because he was a perfect route runner even 2:03:04.520 --> 2:03:07.120 as a freshman when he came went to Oxford, transfers 2:03:07.120 --> 2:03:09.640 to Florida. And that's the advantage of having a wide 2:03:09.640 --> 2:03:12.720 receiver coach for a dad. You learn the tricks of 2:03:13.080 --> 2:03:17.440 setting up defensive backs and understanding pace, understanding footwork, and 2:03:17.560 --> 2:03:20.200 that's what he does at a really high level. Not 2:03:20.320 --> 2:03:23.000 the biggest, not the fastest, but for a guy that 2:03:23.240 --> 2:03:25.880 is technically sound, he is going to see the field 2:03:26.200 --> 2:03:28.640 very early as a rookie and he's going to be 2:03:28.800 --> 2:03:33.240 productive for this Rams offense. That sounds really like somebody 2:03:33.280 --> 2:03:35.600 that would work with Sean McBay. It's just kind of 2:03:35.600 --> 2:03:38.600 the way I picture that offense. Everything on time. Hey, Jared, 2:03:38.640 --> 2:03:40.440 I'm going to tell you which route to throw, Just 2:03:40.600 --> 2:03:44.320 throw it on time. Cooper Cuppish, Yeah, another one of 2:03:44.360 --> 2:03:48.200 those one of our find me a window. It's never 2:03:48.400 --> 2:03:50.920 my goal to make everything about LSU. But you're talking 2:03:50.960 --> 2:03:54.240 about a guy who picked fifty seventh. I mean, go 2:03:54.720 --> 2:03:56.640 with me here, go with me here. This is gonna 2:03:56.680 --> 2:03:59.600 be a good point because en route to a national 2:03:59.680 --> 2:04:03.879 champion and ship, LSU played Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, T Higgins, 2:04:04.440 --> 2:04:07.280 Ceedee Lamb on top of a bevy of other guys. 2:04:07.640 --> 2:04:10.040 And if you talk to Grant Delpit, Christian Fulton, and 2:04:10.120 --> 2:04:14.040 anybody else on that defense, they consistently said Van Jefferson 2:04:14.120 --> 2:04:16.120 was the toughest receiver they had to go against in 2:04:16.200 --> 2:04:18.880 twenty nineteen. It's because Christian Fulton put up a great 2:04:19.040 --> 2:04:23.880 line against those Alabama guys and against them forgetting which 2:04:24.000 --> 2:04:28.000 other and against the Clemson guys. So, uh, Christian Fulton, 2:04:28.040 --> 2:04:30.120 get your name called soon. I believe in you, buddy, 2:04:30.200 --> 2:04:33.000 I'm so. I mean, I I came to terms with 2:04:33.080 --> 2:04:34.880 the thought that he wouldn't be a first round pick. 2:04:35.000 --> 2:04:38.240 That makes sense, But to see him still here approaching 2:04:38.320 --> 2:04:42.160 pick sixty eight two, it's fairly surprising. If he's there 2:04:42.200 --> 2:04:45.680 at I would run to make that pick at eighty two. 2:04:46.080 --> 2:04:49.400 I just that seems unlikely. Way you would run. Well, 2:04:49.640 --> 2:04:53.240 there's no podium commissioners. Here I keep forgetting yet, Dave. Sorry. 2:04:54.400 --> 2:05:02.520 NFL Draft the Minnesota Vikings select saw some whispers that 2:05:02.640 --> 2:05:04.520 maybe Ezra Cleveland was going to sneak out of the 2:05:04.640 --> 2:05:07.600 first round. But here he is, the Boise State offensive 2:05:07.640 --> 2:05:09.520 tackle going at fifty eight to the Vikings, and I 2:05:09.640 --> 2:05:11.920 get killed. I pick I picked him to the Vikings 2:05:12.000 --> 2:05:14.640 in my mock draft, and Jeff mauled me in his 2:05:14.840 --> 2:05:17.400 mock draft. And I picked this guy in the first round, 2:05:17.440 --> 2:05:19.800 and now the last night, and then now the Vikings 2:05:19.880 --> 2:05:22.760 take him. I felt like that they really really liked him. 2:05:22.960 --> 2:05:27.320 I mean I watched him play against Florida State Tallahassee 2:05:27.520 --> 2:05:31.480 hot day kid from an athlete. Yeah, and he's he's 2:05:31.960 --> 2:05:34.280 he's hanging in there with those guys. I mean it's 2:05:34.360 --> 2:05:37.440 like boys is running no huddle and he just keeps 2:05:37.520 --> 2:05:40.280 coming and coming and coming after the Florida State guys. 2:05:41.000 --> 2:05:43.000 I like his technique. I like the way he got 2:05:43.040 --> 2:05:45.240 his sets. I like the way he stays in front 2:05:45.280 --> 2:05:47.879 of this guy. I don't know about the power overall, 2:05:48.240 --> 2:05:50.879 but I saw a guy that's a really really good athlete. 2:05:51.000 --> 2:05:53.440 So Vikings got him a tackle left tackle. I think 2:05:53.520 --> 2:05:56.480 that's a cauld play let because of his athletic ability. 2:05:56.600 --> 2:05:58.360 It kind of seems the way that it's going an 2:05:58.400 --> 2:06:02.600 offensive tackle is if you've got the requisite athleticism that 2:06:02.800 --> 2:06:06.320 pass protect protection is so important in today's NFL that 2:06:06.360 --> 2:06:07.560 you got to have the feat to be able to 2:06:07.640 --> 2:06:09.840 match some of these pass rushers. Is that the way 2:06:09.840 --> 2:06:12.040 it's kind of going, Dane, where that's kind of where 2:06:12.120 --> 2:06:15.440 people start is tell me what kind of athlete he is? Right? 2:06:15.680 --> 2:06:17.600 And I think that you're you're right about that, and 2:06:17.800 --> 2:06:21.080 the combine he had really helped him. The Vikings, I know, 2:06:21.200 --> 2:06:24.120 were considering him in the first round. Yeah, with two 2:06:24.160 --> 2:06:28.320 first round picks. Well, and if the kind of how 2:06:28.320 --> 2:06:30.440 we're talking about the Cowboys, if the first sixteen picks 2:06:30.480 --> 2:06:32.680 played out a certain way, Diggs might have been the 2:06:32.720 --> 2:06:35.600 guy at seventeen if the first twenty one picks or so, 2:06:35.720 --> 2:06:38.920 because they did the Vikings did not expect Justin Jefferson 2:06:38.960 --> 2:06:41.200 to be there at twenty two. He fell there and 2:06:41.280 --> 2:06:43.360 they were like, oh shoot, we got to take this guy. 2:06:44.040 --> 2:06:46.240 And Ezra Cleveland was a guy they were ready to 2:06:46.320 --> 2:06:49.000 take if the if the board played out a certain way, 2:06:49.040 --> 2:06:51.160 so to get him in the second round. This is 2:06:51.240 --> 2:06:53.600 kind of like a Cowboys moment for the Vikings to 2:06:53.640 --> 2:06:56.080 get him at this point in the draft. So now 2:06:56.120 --> 2:06:59.120 we get the New York Jets on the clock. We 2:06:59.200 --> 2:07:01.880 are at number fifty eight in the draft. It'll be 2:07:01.960 --> 2:07:04.960 the Jets followed by the Ravens, followed by the Titans. 2:07:05.000 --> 2:07:07.360 And Mike Zimmer is hanging out in front of his fireplace. 2:07:07.520 --> 2:07:09.760 It's a good looking fireplace. I wonder, I wonder if 2:07:09.800 --> 2:07:12.280 he's ad his ranch, he might have got his things. 2:07:12.320 --> 2:07:15.360 Wondering about that. I got a place in Kentucky. Huh, Well, yeah, 2:07:15.480 --> 2:07:18.280 he's he's, he's it's his big ranch that he's got. 2:07:18.400 --> 2:07:20.160 Man ranch would be a good place to be for 2:07:20.240 --> 2:07:23.120 a draft. The only question is you gotta be sure 2:07:23.120 --> 2:07:26.600 about your WiFi, your internet situation, because sometimes a ranch, 2:07:26.960 --> 2:07:29.400 you know you're not in the sub dude makes like 2:07:29.600 --> 2:07:31.800 five million dollars a year, Jeff, you don't think he can. 2:07:31.880 --> 2:07:34.840 Which would be rousier for Wi Fi? A yacht or 2:07:34.920 --> 2:07:37.920 a ranch? It doesn't which, that's the question. You think 2:07:37.920 --> 2:07:40.400 The yacht was hardwired, like he was close enough to 2:07:40.480 --> 2:07:43.600 somewhere that they were running extension cords and the longest 2:07:43.680 --> 2:07:46.640 Cat six cable you've ever seen out of a nearby 2:07:46.720 --> 2:07:50.600 restaurant and down the dock. All can't kick something off, 2:07:52.080 --> 2:07:55.160 just lug into a Starbucks outlet. This is the New 2:07:55.240 --> 2:07:57.720 York Jets second pick of this draft. The first one 2:07:57.840 --> 2:08:02.040 was McKay Beckton in the first round, Louisville offensive tackle. 2:08:02.400 --> 2:08:04.560 Like that. By the way, Brian or Dane, do you 2:08:04.680 --> 2:08:06.960 have some needs for the New York Jets to try 2:08:07.000 --> 2:08:09.400 to try to guide us in the right direction? Let 2:08:09.440 --> 2:08:12.000 me see if I could figure this out. They traded 2:08:12.080 --> 2:08:14.680 down before, right, so this is only their second pick. Ye, second, 2:08:15.560 --> 2:08:18.160 so they have obvious needs at you look at the 2:08:18.240 --> 2:08:20.960 cornerback depth chart and you're just kind of shaking your head, 2:08:21.000 --> 2:08:26.040 and who's this guy? So cornerback definitely receiver yea, Robbie 2:08:26.080 --> 2:08:29.280 Anderson going to Carolina. Uh, you know they gave sam 2:08:29.360 --> 2:08:32.280 Donold help at eleven with the left tackle time to 2:08:32.280 --> 2:08:34.640 get him some help to you know, who's gonna be 2:08:34.720 --> 2:08:38.800 catching these passes? So I think corner or edge rusher 2:08:38.960 --> 2:08:41.200 or receiver. I'd be pretty surprised. If it's any other position, 2:08:41.240 --> 2:08:44.280 it's gonna be fault right here. Well, okay, so names 2:08:44.280 --> 2:08:46.640 I would consider if you're talking to those, Yeah, Denzel Mims, 2:08:46.680 --> 2:08:48.680 Christian Fulton and then I'm way higher than the rest 2:08:48.720 --> 2:08:52.640 of the world. One makes way too much sense. Oh, 2:08:52.680 --> 2:08:55.960 I understand, it's too much sense. No, I understand. I mean, 2:08:56.040 --> 2:08:59.360 but you know Fulton Dane also laid it out though. 2:08:59.480 --> 2:09:01.640 I mean, you look at their needs to talk about edge, 2:09:01.720 --> 2:09:05.320 wide receiver, cornerback, linebacker. I mean they dressed their offensive line. 2:09:05.640 --> 2:09:08.080 I think their best corners Pierre to see her. I mean, 2:09:08.200 --> 2:09:11.080 I think if you ask Jets fans and name the 2:09:11.120 --> 2:09:13.320 top three corners on their team, I don't know if 2:09:13.320 --> 2:09:15.480 they could do it. Come to Cowboys couldn't score on that? 2:09:16.640 --> 2:09:22.280 Yeah about a depth? You know why? You know why 2:09:22.320 --> 2:09:25.440 they couldn't score on that because Cooper played. Cooper played 2:09:25.480 --> 2:09:28.680 two snaps and they didn't have ceedee lamb and yeah, exactly, 2:09:28.720 --> 2:09:32.840 they didn't have very fair, very fair. We fixed that 2:09:33.000 --> 2:09:36.360 problem last night, Jeffrey, Maybe Treyvon Diggs can also be 2:09:36.520 --> 2:09:39.960 your fourth or fifth wide receiver. Maybe, well, maybe Treyvon 2:09:40.040 --> 2:09:43.000 Diggs can stop a ninety eight yard touchdown too. That 2:09:43.000 --> 2:09:44.840 would be good, That would be very good. Well, that 2:09:44.840 --> 2:09:46.360 guy's not on the Jets anymore. You don't have to 2:09:46.400 --> 2:09:48.360 worry about it. What a just what a kick in 2:09:48.440 --> 2:09:50.520 the junk that game was let's not go back. I 2:09:50.560 --> 2:09:52.360 don't know why you guys are doing this. Why are 2:09:52.360 --> 2:09:56.440 you you started it about Cede Lamb and Trevon Diggs. Guys, 2:09:57.000 --> 2:10:01.000 come on, yeah, yeah, I like where Dane's heads at. 2:10:01.080 --> 2:10:02.800 I don't know about the rest of you guys. So 2:10:03.040 --> 2:10:05.080 New York Jets on the clock. They've taken Beckton in 2:10:05.120 --> 2:10:07.520 the first round. Denzel Mims would be a lot of 2:10:07.560 --> 2:10:11.040 fun there, my guys, Sammy d poor guy Dane. You 2:10:11.080 --> 2:10:12.960 were really high on Sam Darnold in the draft, and 2:10:13.000 --> 2:10:14.720 I'm sitting here watching him in the NFL, like, are 2:10:14.760 --> 2:10:16.879 they ever going to give him a chance to succeed? 2:10:18.120 --> 2:10:22.520 There's nobody Blocker and Rogers learning the same things. Nobody open. Yeah, 2:10:22.680 --> 2:10:25.800 they don't draft anybody. Let's trade up for another quarterback. 2:10:27.040 --> 2:10:28.720 And I don't think Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the 2:10:28.800 --> 2:10:30.840 type to handle that well when somebody's like, well Aaron, 2:10:30.880 --> 2:10:32.320 we did it with you too. I don't think that 2:10:32.400 --> 2:10:34.480 that's gonna work for him. I think that he's gonna 2:10:34.480 --> 2:10:36.800 have a lot to say. How do you think Rogers 2:10:36.880 --> 2:10:39.640 feels about the fact that McCarthy got such a great 2:10:39.720 --> 2:10:42.360 receiver in the first round? In his first Cowboy draft 2:10:42.440 --> 2:10:44.760 after never getting a skill player in the first round 2:10:45.200 --> 2:10:47.520 during his Packer tenure. I think Aaron is ready to 2:10:47.600 --> 2:10:50.680 demand a trade and then have a QB competition with Dak. 2:10:51.200 --> 2:10:54.720 I've seen Aaron's contract figures. I don't think that's likely. 2:10:55.000 --> 2:10:58.520 I don't think that's what you've seen. What daxus going, Yeah, exactly, well, 2:10:58.880 --> 2:11:02.520 fair true story. That one doesn't exist yet as far 2:11:02.600 --> 2:11:05.840 as I'm aware. Yeah yet. So the show in the 2:11:05.920 --> 2:11:08.400 graphic of the top receivers remaining, which would make sense, 2:11:08.440 --> 2:11:12.400 and now the camera is actually in Denzel Mims's living room. 2:11:12.720 --> 2:11:15.600 Very nice couch appears to be either leather or pleather, 2:11:16.560 --> 2:11:18.960 able to seat at least eight to ten people on 2:11:19.080 --> 2:11:22.320 that couch, and the Jets Adam gase looks like they've 2:11:22.400 --> 2:11:26.040 made a pick. He's hugging his son, Joe Douglas as 2:11:26.160 --> 2:11:29.600 it appears three screens. Adam Gasee's kid is really fascinated 2:11:29.640 --> 2:11:32.680 with the camera, making sure to wave like you see 2:11:32.760 --> 2:11:35.760 kids do at a basketball game, making sure, but he's 2:11:35.800 --> 2:11:37.800 not looking at the camera. He's looking at the screen 2:11:37.920 --> 2:11:40.360 that shows the display of the draft and waving it 2:11:40.480 --> 2:11:43.080 in which is alway by play. I need it in 2:11:43.200 --> 2:11:44.960 my life. This is beautiful. Well, it's always a tough 2:11:45.000 --> 2:11:46.360 deal because you don't know where the camera is. You 2:11:46.440 --> 2:11:48.680 just know that you're on TV, so you're actually looking 2:11:48.760 --> 2:11:51.320 at TV instead of at the camera, and you're really 2:11:51.400 --> 2:11:54.320 waving at yourself, watching yourself. See and as here come 2:11:54.360 --> 2:11:56.720 the other kids. Now we got three kids. You see 2:11:56.720 --> 2:11:58.560 it on scoreboards all the time and on the big 2:11:58.920 --> 2:12:02.400 monitor at and T Stadium. You see it all the day. Beth, Yeah, 2:12:02.480 --> 2:12:04.320 but I have better aware to get the kids. If 2:12:04.360 --> 2:12:07.000 I'm in that situation, I immediately try to find the camera, 2:12:07.800 --> 2:12:10.000 just if you're keeping track at home. It took till 2:12:10.040 --> 2:12:12.120 pick fifty nine for us to go off the rails. 2:12:12.320 --> 2:12:21.680 Here's Roger with the the New York Jets pick in 2:12:21.760 --> 2:12:26.240 the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The Jets, like Denzel Mims, 2:12:27.120 --> 2:12:30.160 going people finding a way to pick the best guy 2:12:30.240 --> 2:12:32.200 on the board. Denzel Mims, who I think is one 2:12:32.240 --> 2:12:34.720 of the guys who helped himself the absolute most out 2:12:34.760 --> 2:12:38.680 of everybody after actual football had ended with the Senior 2:12:38.720 --> 2:12:42.320 Bowl and with the combine, finding a home here on 2:12:42.520 --> 2:12:45.920 a team where there should be plenty of targets available. 2:12:46.520 --> 2:12:51.880 Scouting report, Denzel Mims Dane player at Baylor who didn't 2:12:52.000 --> 2:12:54.960 run a diverse route tree. But then he goes to 2:12:55.040 --> 2:12:57.080 the Senior Bowl, like you mentioned Jeff, and you see 2:12:57.160 --> 2:13:00.600 him more more versatile player than I thought a lot 2:13:00.640 --> 2:13:03.600 of us thought he would be. Paul Long almost thirty 2:13:03.640 --> 2:13:06.600 four in jarms. Speed was outstanding, had the best three 2:13:06.720 --> 2:13:10.280 cone out of anybody at the combine. So really impressive 2:13:10.320 --> 2:13:13.160 athlete for that size. You wish he was more and 2:13:13.240 --> 2:13:15.640 more consistent with the route running. Had a few drops, 2:13:15.720 --> 2:13:17.640 but at this point in the draft, this is a 2:13:17.800 --> 2:13:19.920 this is a tremendous steal for them. And if you're 2:13:19.960 --> 2:13:22.320 Sam Darnold, you got your left tackle in the first 2:13:22.600 --> 2:13:24.920 you get your receiver, and the second you have to 2:13:24.960 --> 2:13:27.800 feel pretty good about what your GM Joe Douglas is 2:13:27.840 --> 2:13:29.640 doing and trying to help you. And this was the 2:13:29.720 --> 2:13:33.040 top target for Charlie Brewer and that Matt Rural offense 2:13:33.200 --> 2:13:36.240 during It's really his entire tenure down at Baylor. And 2:13:36.400 --> 2:13:37.840 you talk about a guy who can go up and 2:13:37.920 --> 2:13:40.440 get a football, he's right there with it. He high 2:13:40.480 --> 2:13:43.040 points the ball so well. He was tied for second 2:13:43.080 --> 2:13:45.760 in the country in terms of contested receptions. He was 2:13:45.880 --> 2:13:48.760 honestly one of my favorite players just in college football 2:13:48.800 --> 2:13:51.920 to watch throughout the course of this past season. Then 2:13:52.440 --> 2:13:54.680 another Texas high school football product got to throw it 2:13:54.680 --> 2:13:56.960 out out there. He's from Dangerfield, Texas, which is of 2:13:57.040 --> 2:14:01.440 course very football history rich in that regard. Played four 2:14:01.720 --> 2:14:04.800 sports there, including track, which you saw with the forty 2:14:04.840 --> 2:14:07.040 that ended up running a four three eight, which was 2:14:07.080 --> 2:14:09.680 one of the top five wide receiver forties that you 2:14:09.800 --> 2:14:12.720 saw in the NFL combine. So I like him a lot. 2:14:12.880 --> 2:14:14.960 And Jeff, I remember you talking about the route tree 2:14:15.000 --> 2:14:17.440 early on in the offseason. That kind of scared you. 2:14:17.520 --> 2:14:21.160 I think he kind of dispelled that kind of bugaboo 2:14:21.200 --> 2:14:23.040 to his game at the at the Senior Bowl, just 2:14:23.160 --> 2:14:25.879 the way that he was able to show some reality 2:14:25.920 --> 2:14:28.560 and some versatility. Nobody could cover him at the Senior Bowl. 2:14:28.600 --> 2:14:30.920 And once again we have a GM's kid who is 2:14:31.040 --> 2:14:33.840 pretending to be super excited about a pick that looks 2:14:33.880 --> 2:14:35.120 like an eight year old. And I just don't know 2:14:35.200 --> 2:14:37.960 if they understand what they're excited about, but that's the 2:14:38.000 --> 2:14:40.360 way it goes. All Right, We've got the New England 2:14:40.440 --> 2:14:43.680 Patriots who have traded up their pick is in. We'll 2:14:43.720 --> 2:14:46.440 get to that and the rest of this draft. You're 2:14:46.480 --> 2:14:48.480 listening to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh 2:14:48.560 --> 2:14:53.880 five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And 2:14:54.080 --> 2:14:56.880 as we continue here on the website side of things, 2:14:56.960 --> 2:15:00.440 the Patriots still looking to make their first select. Shouldn't 2:15:00.440 --> 2:15:03.040 correct now that they've traded up because they traded out 2:15:03.080 --> 2:15:06.000 of twenty three. No, they I take that back. They 2:15:06.040 --> 2:15:09.440 took Kyle Dugger earlier in the draft, so you did have, uh, 2:15:09.640 --> 2:15:15.600 Kyle Dugger. We don't, we don't. I believe y'all are 2:15:15.640 --> 2:15:23.040 still up. I'm not sure what's going on here. I 2:15:23.120 --> 2:15:25.760 think we're having some technical difficulties. That's what happens when 2:15:25.800 --> 2:15:27.960 we're all virtual. But that's okay, Dave. You can still 2:15:28.000 --> 2:15:29.920 hear me, correct, I can hear you, Kyle. I think 2:15:29.920 --> 2:15:31.800 our fans let's go ahead and go Yeah, let's go 2:15:31.800 --> 2:15:34.720 ahead and go to New England. You've got New England 2:15:34.840 --> 2:15:37.160 coming up next with the trade with Baltimore and the Ravens. 2:15:37.240 --> 2:15:41.520 Then the Titans, Packers, Chiefs, Seahawks are the scheduled guys 2:15:41.560 --> 2:15:44.200 to go on for the or scheduled picks to go 2:15:44.320 --> 2:15:46.600 on until the end of the round. But with the 2:15:46.720 --> 2:15:50.280 Patriots here, she picks sixty. What do you see, Dane 2:15:50.680 --> 2:15:55.120 at where they could go here? Front seven? Um, you 2:15:55.240 --> 2:15:57.800 know he took a defensive line, you know, could they 2:15:57.840 --> 2:16:00.960 go a Matta Bouquet? Could they go with the Curtis 2:16:01.040 --> 2:16:04.480 Weaver goes somewhere? They need to get younger on that 2:16:04.560 --> 2:16:08.680 defensive line. Um, need to get younger a linebacker seeing Uh, 2:16:09.240 --> 2:16:12.240 maybe could we see the run on linebackers start here? 2:16:12.600 --> 2:16:15.400 We haven't had many linebackers off the board. Zach Bond 2:16:15.520 --> 2:16:21.800 possibly Logan Wilson. Let's see what the Patriots do. I 2:16:21.920 --> 2:16:23.920 can tell you what they're gonna do. They just picked 2:16:24.320 --> 2:16:29.080 Josh Uche out of Michigan. Personal favorite of mine. Oh 2:16:29.160 --> 2:16:31.160 my gosh, I love this dude. And he's one of 2:16:31.200 --> 2:16:33.800 those guys I feel like people are afraid of him 2:16:33.840 --> 2:16:37.040 because he doesn't have a definitive role. Dane, tell me 2:16:37.120 --> 2:16:39.640 if I'm crazy, Like, doesn't this seem like Chase Winovitch 2:16:39.680 --> 2:16:43.200 all over again? Just in terms of I mean just 2:16:43.360 --> 2:16:45.560 a specialized guy who can get to the quarterback. I 2:16:45.600 --> 2:16:47.480 mean he's not gonna be for everybody, but man, he 2:16:47.560 --> 2:16:50.200 can do something. He can do something for you. Yeah. Well, 2:16:50.200 --> 2:16:52.880 and Chase Winovich who was drafted by the Patriots last 2:16:52.920 --> 2:16:55.879 year on Day two. Uh yeah, you know he's He's 2:16:55.879 --> 2:16:58.520 a guy who I don't I think he's a little 2:16:58.520 --> 2:17:01.040 more versatility than a win it bitch, where Winovich is 2:17:01.040 --> 2:17:04.440 an upfield play player only where oocha, maybe you have 2:17:04.520 --> 2:17:06.720 a guy that can draw up a playing space six one, two, 2:17:06.879 --> 2:17:09.519 forty five. So he has the size of a linebacker, 2:17:09.800 --> 2:17:13.360 but the speed is what you're banking on here. Good 2:17:13.440 --> 2:17:16.680 luck slowing him down around the edge. And a player 2:17:16.720 --> 2:17:19.760 who only played about fifty percent of snaps last year 2:17:19.800 --> 2:17:22.760 as a senior at Michigan. So you know, even even 2:17:22.879 --> 2:17:25.560 the Wolverines weren't sure exactly how to use him and 2:17:25.840 --> 2:17:30.400 in which situations. So this is interesting pick by coach Belichick. Obviously. 2:17:30.440 --> 2:17:32.160 I think he knows a thing or two about defense 2:17:32.240 --> 2:17:34.360 and how to use a player like this, no doubt. 2:17:34.400 --> 2:17:36.520 I feel like this is one of those value picks 2:17:36.560 --> 2:17:39.200 that the Patriots are just destined to make throughout the 2:17:39.320 --> 2:17:41.879 course of a draft. He's gonna have six sacks year, 2:17:42.120 --> 2:17:44.160 He's gonna have six sacks at the halfway point in 2:17:44.240 --> 2:17:46.680 next season, and like they're only gonna use him in 2:17:46.760 --> 2:17:49.800 certain situations and there it's gonna be like they're they're 2:17:49.840 --> 2:17:52.680 two four front that nobody else in the league runs, 2:17:52.760 --> 2:17:55.240 and he's just gonna be a nightmare. That's my prediction. 2:17:55.600 --> 2:17:58.000 And now I'm kind of looking down the list here, guys, 2:17:58.040 --> 2:17:59.720 and there's a couple names that stick out to me 2:18:00.040 --> 2:18:01.920 and oh my gosh, that guy's still kind of there 2:18:02.000 --> 2:18:04.960 or that guy's still there type of player. How about 2:18:05.080 --> 2:18:08.280 Josh Jones out of Houston, the offensive tackle that I 2:18:08.400 --> 2:18:11.440 thought would go well early in the draft, and he's 2:18:11.480 --> 2:18:13.640 still on the board. You still got Christian Fulton up 2:18:13.640 --> 2:18:18.960 there as well. Josh Jones is surprising. Um. I thought 2:18:18.959 --> 2:18:20.480 there was a chance he'd go in the first round. 2:18:20.640 --> 2:18:23.440 Obviously that didn't happen, and surprise, he has fallen to 2:18:23.560 --> 2:18:27.800 this point a really very good player in pass protection. 2:18:29.120 --> 2:18:31.680 You know, he's not the greatest as a run blocker. 2:18:31.800 --> 2:18:34.920 And when you watch his film, who did he who 2:18:35.000 --> 2:18:37.360 did he really face? That really challenged him. I think 2:18:37.400 --> 2:18:40.360 that's what teams are struggling with. All right, here we 2:18:40.480 --> 2:18:45.920 go back on the fan side of things. The twenty 2:18:46.000 --> 2:18:50.120 twenty NFL Draft continues on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 2:18:50.400 --> 2:18:54.240 one three the Fan. All right, welcome back. It is 2:18:54.320 --> 2:18:57.360 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, where the Dallas Cowboys last 2:18:57.480 --> 2:19:00.400 night took Ceedee Lamb if you somehow missed that, So sir, 2:19:00.600 --> 2:19:04.120 they got Cite Lamb and then they got Brian brought 2:19:04.200 --> 2:19:06.560 us his eighteen ranked player in this draft in the 2:19:06.720 --> 2:19:11.360 second round in trey Von Diggs. Where now it picks 2:19:11.440 --> 2:19:14.039 sixty one with the Tennessee Titans. Here at the back 2:19:14.160 --> 2:19:16.760 end of the second round. Cowboy's next pick, of course 2:19:17.480 --> 2:19:22.400 is at eighty two, So with the Tennessee Titans. Anybody 2:19:22.520 --> 2:19:25.120 got a nice little list handy to try to point 2:19:25.200 --> 2:19:30.760 us in the right direction, Zach Bond, Should we just 2:19:30.800 --> 2:19:33.920 say that for every pick, like I mean, at this 2:19:34.080 --> 2:19:38.000 point where the value is what it is. They drafted 2:19:38.080 --> 2:19:40.040 tackle in the first round, so Josh Jones I think 2:19:40.080 --> 2:19:42.360 would be excellent value, but they're not going to go 2:19:42.480 --> 2:19:46.720 that direction. Could we start to see Cushion Berry get 2:19:46.800 --> 2:19:50.960 more offensive line? Helps surprised? Jeremy Chen is still a 2:19:51.120 --> 2:19:54.520 round so a few names, and that's what happens when 2:19:55.040 --> 2:19:57.320 you we have so many talented Day two picks, a 2:19:57.400 --> 2:20:00.080 lot of talents still available. It's going to happen. I 2:20:00.160 --> 2:20:03.240 mean the third round, we're still gonna have some intriguing names. Uh, 2:20:04.360 --> 2:20:09.640 Matta Bouque, you know they they shipped off. Uh who's 2:20:09.879 --> 2:20:13.640 the really good defensive tackle they shipped off to Denver? Yes, 2:20:13.879 --> 2:20:16.920 so Matta Bouque, George Elliott, one of these big defensive 2:20:16.959 --> 2:20:20.560 tackles maybe coming in help replace him up front. I 2:20:20.640 --> 2:20:23.200 still think corner could be an option here too, because 2:20:23.240 --> 2:20:25.760 you look at what their needs are at cornerback. I 2:20:25.840 --> 2:20:27.840 mean they don't have I mean they've got Andrew Jackson 2:20:27.920 --> 2:20:30.160 out there and then Malcolm Butler. But are you really 2:20:30.320 --> 2:20:33.320 trusting Malcolm Butler to be your your corner as a Titan? 2:20:34.040 --> 2:20:36.840 Probably they lose. They lose Logan Ryan and that that 2:20:36.959 --> 2:20:39.440 is a great point. They need that guy that can 2:20:39.480 --> 2:20:43.760 play inside outside, Uh, that can has the football character 2:20:43.840 --> 2:20:46.960 that you know coach Vrabel's looking for. So absolutely, and 2:20:47.320 --> 2:20:51.040 you look at the top corner still available, Christian Fulton's 2:20:51.120 --> 2:20:54.640 still there. Yeah, so that that is a possibility for sure. Yeah, 2:20:54.680 --> 2:20:56.440 that's kind of where I was looking. I was thinking. 2:20:56.680 --> 2:20:59.640 And if you're their cornerback situation, and like, okay, if 2:20:59.680 --> 2:21:02.440 you're just go for the second round, taking the best 2:21:02.480 --> 2:21:05.520 available player, that Christian Fulton's the guy. I mean, he's 2:21:05.560 --> 2:21:08.080 gotta be right, Yeah, we can leave him alone. Yeah, 2:21:08.280 --> 2:21:10.640 him and Bond or the two guys that I would say, Man, 2:21:10.720 --> 2:21:12.320 if I got either one of those guys, i'd be 2:21:12.480 --> 2:21:16.160 lated about that. Yeah. I'm just gonna watch this draft 2:21:16.200 --> 2:21:18.120 and hope to not hear either of their names for 2:21:18.200 --> 2:21:21.520 the next twenty picks. Any chance, any chance either of 2:21:21.600 --> 2:21:24.400 those guys in eighty two? Oh, that'd be awesome. I 2:21:24.480 --> 2:21:26.320 guess you never have to trade up to get it, though. 2:21:27.840 --> 2:21:29.880 I don't think eighty two. I think eighty two too far. 2:21:29.920 --> 2:21:31.960 That's still like you just said, twenty picks away and 2:21:32.040 --> 2:21:33.920 you still think that they're gonna be there. We weren't, 2:21:33.920 --> 2:21:35.560 weren't gonna be there fifty one. I don't think so. 2:21:35.720 --> 2:21:39.039 I'm begging. I'm asking if anybody tell me you're asking 2:21:39.080 --> 2:21:41.720 the question you're out here saying, do you think no, 2:21:41.959 --> 2:21:45.560 there's no way? Dang it? Yeah, Kyle, I'm bringing it 2:21:45.640 --> 2:21:47.960 down again, I know, but I'm being real here. They're 2:21:47.959 --> 2:21:50.199 trying to make sure we set up the board the rend. Jeff, 2:21:50.280 --> 2:21:53.240 I've done this to Kyle, Dave. No. I mean it's 2:21:53.360 --> 2:21:56.120 good that somebody is there to rain you and Brian 2:21:56.200 --> 2:21:59.240 in 'all are monster. Sorry, Commissioner, with the pick Titans 2:22:00.000 --> 2:22:04.080 to see Titans select Christian Fulton. He fens him back. 2:22:05.120 --> 2:22:08.879 Happy Now Kyle, I'm mad on Kavanaugh, Now Kyle, Kyle 2:22:09.000 --> 2:22:12.840 nailed it. Was what do you want? Um? I want 2:22:12.920 --> 2:22:15.800 Christian Fulton to go back on the board, wait twenty 2:22:15.879 --> 2:22:19.039 picks and then be a Dallas cowboy. A bond still 2:22:19.080 --> 2:22:22.400 there though. Yeah, Christian Fulton. I really like Christian Fulton. 2:22:22.400 --> 2:22:24.320 I think he's one of those guys that, to me, 2:22:25.480 --> 2:22:28.480 he got to this spot because he's not six two 2:22:28.600 --> 2:22:30.480 and he didn't run a four to three, But when 2:22:30.520 --> 2:22:32.880 you just watch him play corner, I think instinctually his 2:22:33.000 --> 2:22:36.200 ability to play man coverage. I really am a big 2:22:36.240 --> 2:22:38.360 fan of Christian Fulton. Am I missing something that is 2:22:38.400 --> 2:22:40.080 the reason that he got pushed down here? Is it 2:22:40.200 --> 2:22:44.080 just lacking those traits? He was my sixtieth ranked player 2:22:44.120 --> 2:22:48.560 in this draft, um, and he just I mean he 2:22:48.640 --> 2:22:51.520 went right where I thought he's a joke. But this 2:22:51.720 --> 2:22:54.040 is I mean, they lost Logan Ryan, They're looking for 2:22:54.200 --> 2:22:57.080 that reliable player they could play inside outside, and Fulton's 2:22:57.120 --> 2:23:00.120 that guy. Uh you know you you do wonder is 2:23:00.160 --> 2:23:02.600 there anything kind of like we talked about with Jalen 2:23:02.640 --> 2:23:05.720 Johnson is there anything exceptional to what he does? Not? Really, 2:23:06.120 --> 2:23:09.760 He's solid size, sold speed, only two career picks, so 2:23:09.879 --> 2:23:13.160 he wasn't overly productive. But he didn't get beat a 2:23:13.280 --> 2:23:16.800 ton either, unless you're facing Henry Ruggs, who got him 2:23:16.800 --> 2:23:18.720 a few times. But this is just a quality player 2:23:18.800 --> 2:23:21.400 who maybe got pushed down a little bit because of 2:23:21.480 --> 2:23:23.600 the overall talent in this class. All right, well, now 2:23:23.680 --> 2:23:25.640 let's talk about a different cornerback. How about the ones 2:23:25.680 --> 2:23:27.760 that the Cowboys picked at number fifty one overall? On 2:23:27.840 --> 2:23:30.640 the phone with us right now, Trey Von Diggs is 2:23:30.720 --> 2:23:34.360 with us. Tray Von, first of all, congratulations and welcome 2:23:34.400 --> 2:23:38.119 to the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you. I appreciate everything. Thank 2:23:38.120 --> 2:23:40.320 you for having him. Happy to be a member in 2:23:40.360 --> 2:23:43.840 the Dallas Cowboy. What's it like talking to Jerry Jones 2:23:43.920 --> 2:23:47.080 on the phone? I feel like heeled sometimes be a storyteller. 2:23:47.160 --> 2:23:49.960 Where are you familiar with Jerry? And is it strange 2:23:50.080 --> 2:23:52.720 hearing him on the other end of your phone? I've 2:23:52.760 --> 2:23:56.600 always been offended Jerry like is amazing? Like when I 2:23:56.680 --> 2:23:58.960 first had talked to us, kind of starshut because of 2:23:59.040 --> 2:24:02.040 this life area Jonald I talking to So it was 2:24:02.160 --> 2:24:04.000 kind of like you know, I was star stuck. But 2:24:04.240 --> 2:24:07.080 you know, I love the Dallas Cowboys. Everything I brought 2:24:07.120 --> 2:24:09.800 the Dallas Cowboys. I love the program. So I'm excited. 2:24:10.160 --> 2:24:14.240 I'm really excited with your Can you tell us about 2:24:14.360 --> 2:24:16.960 the video conference that you had with those guys? What 2:24:17.080 --> 2:24:19.760 kind of experience was that and not so much maybe 2:24:19.800 --> 2:24:21.960 what you guys were talking about, well what about you know, 2:24:22.120 --> 2:24:23.680 they probably would have had you in as one of 2:24:23.720 --> 2:24:25.960 the thirty visit guys, but now you had to do 2:24:26.120 --> 2:24:28.880 this over video conference. Did you get a feel for 2:24:28.959 --> 2:24:33.160 everybody doing it that way? Yeah? It was It was 2:24:33.240 --> 2:24:36.080 pretty Uh it was different, um, you know, just seeing 2:24:36.160 --> 2:24:39.480 everybody like on social media and technology and stuff, you know, 2:24:39.840 --> 2:24:41.920 not in person. But you know, it was good. We 2:24:42.000 --> 2:24:44.760 had a good conversation and our conversation went very well. 2:24:44.840 --> 2:24:46.680 So you know, I feel like, you know, that played 2:24:46.680 --> 2:24:49.400 affecting to them selecting me. I enjoyed talking to them. 2:24:49.440 --> 2:24:51.360 I enjoyed our conversation that I had with them. Man, 2:24:51.600 --> 2:24:53.800 you know, it's gonna be funny. I'm a happy, good 2:24:53.879 --> 2:24:55.360 part of team. You know, I want to win game 2:24:55.720 --> 2:24:58.600 and championships. So I'm ready to go, dray Von, even 2:24:58.640 --> 2:25:01.640 with it being a virtual after overall, your family still 2:25:01.760 --> 2:25:03.920 gets to be right next to you and you have 2:25:04.160 --> 2:25:09.600 that that explosive reaction from them. What was that moment, like, Oh, 2:25:09.800 --> 2:25:12.039 it was amazing, Like my heart dropped. When I got 2:25:12.080 --> 2:25:15.360 the call, I was like kind of like, I don't know. 2:25:15.440 --> 2:25:17.680 I kind of paused for a second, like, Wow, this 2:25:17.760 --> 2:25:19.720 is really happened. I seen the area code pop up 2:25:19.720 --> 2:25:22.000 with Dallas, Texas. I said, wow, it's really happened. I 2:25:22.040 --> 2:25:24.600 look up on the screen. I see Chicago picking out there. 2:25:24.840 --> 2:25:26.760 I mean, Dallas is picking out of Chicago. So I 2:25:26.800 --> 2:25:28.720 was like, wow, I don't really about to go to 2:25:29.720 --> 2:25:32.360 my dream, my dream. This isn't my dream. I always 2:25:32.400 --> 2:25:34.280 wanted to do this, and it's just amazing. I'm happy. 2:25:34.520 --> 2:25:36.360 You know, my family was right there to support me 2:25:36.440 --> 2:25:38.760 and be there with me throughout, you know, this draft, 2:25:38.840 --> 2:25:41.160 and you know, just keeping me encouraged and you know, 2:25:41.320 --> 2:25:44.000 staying positive, geting me positive energy and just telling me 2:25:44.080 --> 2:25:46.760 stay patient. And you know, I'm a far where exactly 2:25:46.800 --> 2:25:48.560 where I want to fall, and you know, they happened. 2:25:48.640 --> 2:25:52.120 I'm thankful, I think God, And it's just amazing. Drev. 2:25:52.240 --> 2:25:54.560 And speaking of your family, I mean, you know, it's 2:25:54.640 --> 2:25:57.360 it's pretty normal to have a guy who's dad or 2:25:57.840 --> 2:26:00.720 uncle or cousin played in the league. It's pretty unique 2:26:00.760 --> 2:26:02.920 to talk to a guy who's brother, Your brother, Stefan 2:26:03.080 --> 2:26:05.400 is a is a five six year NFL veteran. What 2:26:05.680 --> 2:26:09.240 was that like? You know, having a guy who's who's 2:26:09.320 --> 2:26:11.680 in the NFL right now to help take you through 2:26:11.760 --> 2:26:16.440 this process, It's amazing. I'm just thankful because you know, 2:26:16.560 --> 2:26:19.400 he just did everything, like literally just did everything. Just 2:26:19.560 --> 2:26:22.480 did what I did in college. Now he's doing a protein. 2:26:22.520 --> 2:26:25.520 You know, he gave me many attempts and reminders that 2:26:25.600 --> 2:26:27.320 I need. You know, I can ask me like a 2:26:27.680 --> 2:26:30.080 you know, like a Google. He's Google to me. You know, 2:26:30.200 --> 2:26:32.360 he's like a father's figure to me. So you know, 2:26:32.400 --> 2:26:34.520 I asked me anything I want. And you know, he's 2:26:34.520 --> 2:26:36.280 just amazing to have him because you know, he can 2:26:36.360 --> 2:26:39.160 tell me everything all ins and out um and just 2:26:39.280 --> 2:26:41.160 helped me and guide me and you know, just help 2:26:41.240 --> 2:26:43.920 me grow in the NFL. And you know, I'm tremendously 2:26:43.959 --> 2:26:46.560 I'm tremendously thankful and you know, just blessed to have 2:26:46.680 --> 2:26:49.240 him and be in his position. Trayvon, you know you 2:26:49.400 --> 2:26:52.080 played in some big games and you you come from 2:26:52.120 --> 2:26:55.879 a big time program. Can you talk about the experience 2:26:56.040 --> 2:26:58.640 that Nick Saban and how he prepared you. I know 2:26:58.800 --> 2:27:02.800 he is on you those defensive backs, the techniques, things 2:27:02.840 --> 2:27:06.600 like that. How did that with his coaching, the big stage, 2:27:06.680 --> 2:27:10.040 all that prepare you for this opportunity now with the Cowboys. 2:27:11.760 --> 2:27:14.160 It helps out so much because he was so tight 2:27:14.240 --> 2:27:16.680 on me and so on me every day and just 2:27:16.959 --> 2:27:18.920 you know, made me a better football player, because if 2:27:18.959 --> 2:27:20.760 he wasn't on me like that, I just shows that 2:27:20.959 --> 2:27:22.720 you know, he didn't care, but it shows that he 2:27:22.800 --> 2:27:24.760 does care that he keeps reminding me and telling me 2:27:24.840 --> 2:27:27.040 things that you know, even if I corrected it before, 2:27:27.080 --> 2:27:28.840 He's still gonna remind me and still remind me the 2:27:28.879 --> 2:27:31.040 little things. You know, he expects the best out of me. 2:27:31.120 --> 2:27:32.320 So you know, I always got to be at my 2:27:32.440 --> 2:27:34.320 best on and off the field, and you know, just 2:27:34.480 --> 2:27:37.000 doing things right and you know, holding myself accountablees just 2:27:37.280 --> 2:27:39.320 building a lot of character and you know, just helping 2:27:39.400 --> 2:27:41.720 me grow. And you know, I thankful, thankful for him 2:27:41.800 --> 2:27:44.280 in the University of Alabama because everything that they do 2:27:44.400 --> 2:27:47.320 there is just playing a factor who I am today, 2:27:47.360 --> 2:27:49.360 and you know I can't be one and thankful everything 2:27:49.440 --> 2:27:52.680 that we did all the sprints, all the workouts, all 2:27:52.760 --> 2:27:56.120 the yelling, meetings, everything, it's just, you know, it's been amazing. 2:27:56.280 --> 2:27:59.080 You know, I'm thankful I decided to go to that 2:27:59.240 --> 2:28:02.720 school and play on the coach Geam. It's just been amazing. 2:28:02.920 --> 2:28:06.480 I think him a lot too as well. I don't 2:28:06.480 --> 2:28:08.600 know if my memory is failing me. You've played against 2:28:08.600 --> 2:28:12.160 Ceedee Lamb, haven't you, Trevlon No, I didn't. I didn't 2:28:12.160 --> 2:28:14.680 get to play against Ceedee Lamb. I was hurt that 2:28:14.879 --> 2:28:17.440 day year when when we went to the attempment to 2:28:17.600 --> 2:28:22.080 the playoffs. He had a good game too. Okay, see 2:28:22.080 --> 2:28:24.000 if you had any opinions on him or any thoughts 2:28:24.080 --> 2:28:26.480 on him. But so for a guy who is playing 2:28:26.520 --> 2:28:29.440 wide receiver in just three years of cornerback to be 2:28:29.560 --> 2:28:31.680 drafted in the second round of the NFL Draft, that's 2:28:32.080 --> 2:28:35.080 that's quite an accomplishment. And it would see like that 2:28:35.240 --> 2:28:37.760 means your best football is certainly even ahead of you, 2:28:38.360 --> 2:28:42.080 even having been a really good college player. How much 2:28:42.160 --> 2:28:43.960 room for growth do you feel like you have in 2:28:44.040 --> 2:28:48.240 your game? I have femnisus amount of movement growth, and 2:28:48.520 --> 2:28:50.959 you know, I feel like, you know, that's that beneficial 2:28:51.080 --> 2:28:54.120 in my situation. Because you know I can learn. I can, 2:28:54.360 --> 2:28:56.119 you know, learn from the older guys. I can learn 2:28:56.120 --> 2:28:57.840 from my coaches, I can learn my peers. And I 2:28:57.920 --> 2:29:00.360 have so much room for him from me that I'm 2:29:00.400 --> 2:29:02.160 a worker. I'm gonna work hard and I'm gonna get 2:29:02.200 --> 2:29:05.840 the promises. I'm gonna get that. All right, it's Treyvon Diggs, 2:29:05.840 --> 2:29:09.080 the Cowboys second round pick. Congratulations and welcome to the 2:29:09.160 --> 2:29:13.760 callous Dallas Cowboys. Treyvon, Congratulations, Trayvon, thank you so much. 2:29:14.360 --> 2:29:17.760 All Right, there he goes, Trayvon Diggs, your newest Dallas Cowboy, 2:29:18.080 --> 2:29:23.400 and from talking to him for five minutes, I like him. Yeah. 2:29:23.640 --> 2:29:26.840 I'm a worker, I'm a worker. I'm ready. Yeah, So 2:29:27.000 --> 2:29:29.840 that's good. That's great. They've had a great first couple 2:29:29.879 --> 2:29:32.240 of rounds. And Sirie thinks that I'm talking to her 2:29:32.320 --> 2:29:35.080 for some reason and I'm not. That was so close 2:29:35.200 --> 2:29:38.160 to being an epic callback, Jeff, because I'm right there 2:29:38.200 --> 2:29:40.920 with you. I would have thought Diggs played against LAMB two. 2:29:40.959 --> 2:29:42.600 I mean, it seems like I was thinking. I was 2:29:42.640 --> 2:29:44.760 thinking playoff game. Did they play in a playoff game? 2:29:44.840 --> 2:29:48.119 AAMA plays Ou and Clemson like every season. At this point, 2:29:48.360 --> 2:29:50.680 Jeff defined me for help, and I was like the 2:29:50.800 --> 2:29:55.880 old krusty scout man. I couldn't remember. I threw my 2:29:56.040 --> 2:30:00.240 gave it like palms up emoji guy, and Jef said, 2:30:00.240 --> 2:30:02.880 I'm going Bertieway was scout. I was pretty sure. I 2:30:03.000 --> 2:30:06.119 was like, No, Bama and Oklahoma played in the playoff game. Yeah, yeah, 2:30:06.160 --> 2:30:08.360 but you're the Oklahoma fan. You should have known him. 2:30:08.440 --> 2:30:10.920 I don't. I'm not a fan of any program. I 2:30:11.520 --> 2:30:14.920 am an observer of college football at the highest level, 2:30:14.959 --> 2:30:18.080 and I go and watch Oklahoma again. Roll By Lsu 2:30:18.480 --> 2:30:21.760 just accepts. He accepts Amanda's sweet tickets is what he does. 2:30:22.000 --> 2:30:28.760 Here are the Chiefs at sixty three, with the sixty 2:30:28.840 --> 2:30:33.240 third pick twenty twenty NFL Draft, The Kansas City chief 2:30:33.320 --> 2:30:38.800 select Willie Gay, linebacker Mississippi State. Now there is a guy, 2:30:39.000 --> 2:30:41.480 Willie Gay junior, Dane Brugler, if you want to give 2:30:41.520 --> 2:30:44.440 us the scouting report and tell me if he had 2:30:44.480 --> 2:30:47.240 never had a suspension of any kind. Where does Willie 2:30:47.240 --> 2:30:51.640 Gay Junior get drafted? Yeah? Maybe snuck into the first maybe. 2:30:51.760 --> 2:30:53.800 You know we're talking about does he go with that 2:30:54.800 --> 2:30:59.840 Jordan Brooks Patrick Queen group. Because this guy's explosive and 2:31:00.560 --> 2:31:03.240 not only initially, but as a finisher, he will strike 2:31:03.480 --> 2:31:06.800 through his target. Uh. Missed most of his past year 2:31:06.840 --> 2:31:09.920 because it's some academic stuff. But this is a player 2:31:10.000 --> 2:31:12.320 who when you see him on the field, the range 2:31:12.360 --> 2:31:15.039 that he plays with and then he matched it at 2:31:15.080 --> 2:31:18.240 the combine with the testing that he did the jumps 2:31:18.320 --> 2:31:20.720 the forty Uh, this is a guy with a lot 2:31:20.760 --> 2:31:23.400 of ability. Uh, and so not surprised that he went 2:31:23.440 --> 2:31:26.680 off the board here in the second round. Insane athlete. 2:31:27.400 --> 2:31:29.640 He's got a good right, insane that to get a 2:31:29.640 --> 2:31:33.840 good right, a light cross, it's like a truck that regard. 2:31:34.000 --> 2:31:36.480 And as a tackler, yeah, he's such a fun player 2:31:36.560 --> 2:31:39.080 to watch. He is like seriously, you watch him on 2:31:39.280 --> 2:31:43.600 tape and you're like, my gosh, he is not afraid 2:31:43.800 --> 2:31:47.200 to step up, take on blockers, get rid of them, 2:31:47.280 --> 2:31:50.920 and explode on these on these ball cares. I was 2:31:51.080 --> 2:31:54.360 really really impressed by him. I just I was. I 2:31:54.480 --> 2:31:56.520 just kind of was like every time I was like, 2:31:56.560 --> 2:31:58.440 he's gonna make a play, He's gonna make this play again. 2:31:58.480 --> 2:32:00.760 He's got But it was just that how much power 2:32:00.879 --> 2:32:03.440 that he played with. There's very few of those middle 2:32:03.480 --> 2:32:06.400 linebacker type guys in this draft, but he's one of them. Yeah, 2:32:06.440 --> 2:32:08.600 he's the one guy you gotta look at. So the 2:32:08.720 --> 2:32:11.040 Chiefs have now taken Clyde Edwards to Hilaire in the 2:32:11.080 --> 2:32:14.720 first round, Billie Gay Junior in the second, and they 2:32:14.760 --> 2:32:17.240 got and they got the Lobardi Trophy last year. Yeah, 2:32:17.280 --> 2:32:19.360 those are nice picks for a team that doesn't really 2:32:19.440 --> 2:32:21.680 need a lot. Now they took they took a luxury 2:32:21.760 --> 2:32:23.720 pick on the best receiving back in the class, just 2:32:23.840 --> 2:32:26.400 to make fun of us. All like watch this. We're 2:32:26.440 --> 2:32:29.000 gonna score thirty eight a game, so it'll be fun 2:32:29.040 --> 2:32:31.080 to watch. My favorite part of that was if you 2:32:31.120 --> 2:32:34.320 saw the call. Veach for the Chiefs was like, yeah, 2:32:34.360 --> 2:32:36.920 we just asked Pat what he wanted and he told 2:32:37.000 --> 2:32:42.199 us he lair. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers gets a quarterbacks Damian 2:32:42.240 --> 2:32:44.120 Williams is sitting at the house like, man, that's really 2:32:44.200 --> 2:32:47.280 messed up. Pat, Like, I really helped you. Yeah for real. 2:32:47.720 --> 2:32:50.360 Damian Williams was like the Super Bowl MVP, let's be real. 2:32:50.800 --> 2:32:55.840 Sixty four Carolina Panthers the final pick of the second round. 2:32:56.120 --> 2:32:58.520 The pick is in. We will be waiting for him 2:32:58.600 --> 2:33:03.520 to announce that pick. Carolina Panthers. Any clues on where 2:33:03.560 --> 2:33:05.840 the Carolina Panthers might be headed. This pick's moved around 2:33:05.879 --> 2:33:07.520 a little bit. It went from Kansas City, then it 2:33:07.640 --> 2:33:10.760 was Seattle's, now it is Carolina's here at sixty four 2:33:10.800 --> 2:33:14.080 to end the second round. They've got defensive lineman both times, right, Yeah, 2:33:14.080 --> 2:33:16.640 they have they Yeah, they snagged Brown in the first 2:33:16.680 --> 2:33:18.080 and then they come back out and they get an 2:33:18.160 --> 2:33:22.240 edge rusher in the second round. Man, I would have 2:33:22.280 --> 2:33:26.720 said that Lynch would have been a great fit here 2:33:26.840 --> 2:33:30.000 for for the Panthers, reuniting him with Matt Rule out 2:33:30.040 --> 2:33:32.440 of Baylor. But after they went defensive line with the 2:33:32.520 --> 2:33:34.640 first two picks, hard to see them doing it again. 2:33:35.240 --> 2:33:38.680 Our guy Zack bonstill sitting there. What about safety here though, 2:33:39.560 --> 2:33:45.640 Jeremy Chen maybe corner, possibly corner. Secondary help. They need 2:33:45.720 --> 2:33:49.080 secondary help after losing Bradberry to the Giants in free agency. 2:33:51.040 --> 2:33:52.720 All right, well, when we get back, we will have 2:33:52.920 --> 2:33:55.400 the Carolina with Panthers pick and we will be moving 2:33:55.440 --> 2:33:57.680 into the third round. Getting ready to get to that 2:33:57.760 --> 2:34:00.520 Dallas Cowboys pick at number eighty two. Listening to the 2:34:00.520 --> 2:34:02.600 twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three the 2:34:02.640 --> 2:34:07.440 fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And here we go, 2:34:07.640 --> 2:34:10.160 here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Sticking with it as 2:34:10.200 --> 2:34:12.680 we do have the final pick here of the second 2:34:12.840 --> 2:34:16.760 round David Hellman and Dane Brugler here. Jeff Kavanaugh and 2:34:16.800 --> 2:34:20.200 Brian brought us also along with us as well. But uh, guys, 2:34:20.440 --> 2:34:22.760 you've got the Panthers here, and then you move into 2:34:23.200 --> 2:34:25.840 the third and of course the Cowboys picking at eighty two. 2:34:25.879 --> 2:34:27.760 We still got a long way to go until we 2:34:27.840 --> 2:34:29.920 get to that eighty second pick. But now you're starting 2:34:29.959 --> 2:34:32.480 to kind of see those names that drop that you 2:34:32.520 --> 2:34:35.640 didn't necessarily think, and Bond is one that continues to 2:34:35.760 --> 2:34:38.640 come up that is just kind of a question mark 2:34:38.720 --> 2:34:42.280 on why he's fallen this far. Yeah, I don't know. 2:34:42.480 --> 2:34:45.400 I don't know how you can watch his tape and 2:34:45.600 --> 2:34:48.920 not be excited about him. I talked about a guy 2:34:49.000 --> 2:34:51.920 that I just kept seeing that every time that the 2:34:52.000 --> 2:34:54.000 ball was going away from him, I think he's not 2:34:54.040 --> 2:34:56.000 going to get there, but he'll make that play. You 2:34:56.040 --> 2:34:58.520 know ed he's got the capability. Everybody now in this 2:34:58.680 --> 2:35:00.640 in this day and age, is looking or that that 2:35:00.840 --> 2:35:03.760 linebacker that can run, that can rush. I mean, this 2:35:03.959 --> 2:35:06.200 is a guy that's got tools to his game. It's 2:35:06.240 --> 2:35:08.360 just not just that one trick pony guy. As we 2:35:08.480 --> 2:35:11.000 say in scouting, here's a guy that's got something to 2:35:11.120 --> 2:35:14.400 his game. And and maybe maybe teams are thinking more 2:35:14.480 --> 2:35:18.560 about the deluded sample. Maybe maybe that's what's going on now. 2:35:18.879 --> 2:35:21.400 Brian broad Us, who loves the player, is saying he's 2:35:21.400 --> 2:35:23.960 trying to keep waterway all that stuff like that. But 2:35:24.120 --> 2:35:27.600 with the collective bargaining agreement the way it is, i mean, 2:35:27.959 --> 2:35:30.800 if a guy's got a deluded test, don't you kind 2:35:30.800 --> 2:35:33.280 of like going? And so I would be like, I've 2:35:33.320 --> 2:35:34.960 done that. I've made a whole career. I've made a 2:35:35.000 --> 2:35:38.000 whole career looking away from the deluded test. I'm like, 2:35:38.080 --> 2:35:39.640 I'm like, give you the guy, give me that guy. 2:35:39.720 --> 2:35:41.880 Y'all take the deluded test. Brian, Yeah, do you know 2:35:42.040 --> 2:35:45.160 do you know who picks after Carolina? Can you see Cincinnati? 2:35:49.280 --> 2:35:51.720 You know what, there's your team that's not afraid. Yeah. 2:35:51.760 --> 2:35:53.760 I always in my media, guy, I'm gonna say I 2:35:53.879 --> 2:35:57.560 worked with the Cincinnati Bengals. I'm just gonna lie. I'm 2:35:57.600 --> 2:36:00.200 gonna lie that I work for the Cincinnati Bengals, you know, 2:36:00.480 --> 2:36:03.520 because that's my team. When they just they don't care, 2:36:03.640 --> 2:36:07.400 I mean, they're basic out Borrow, Yeah, why not? Why not? 2:36:07.680 --> 2:36:11.520 But yeah, I just think it must be now teams 2:36:11.600 --> 2:36:14.080 are worried about what happened to him at the combine. 2:36:14.360 --> 2:36:16.880 And that's a shame that that's the case. But and 2:36:16.959 --> 2:36:19.040 I thought we would now the collective bargaining. I've said 2:36:19.080 --> 2:36:21.840 it before. Can't be out there messing with the crippler. Yeah, 2:36:22.240 --> 2:36:27.120 Mike Fisher, the crippler aft there messing with the crippler. Yeah. Uh, 2:36:27.280 --> 2:36:30.960 just to reset the board. Top five available players on 2:36:31.160 --> 2:36:34.440 my board, h Josh Jones tackle out of Houston, Yeah, 2:36:34.959 --> 2:36:39.040 Linebacker Zach Vaughn, Lloyd Cushionberry guards center out of LSU, 2:36:39.680 --> 2:36:42.400 Jeremy Chinn, safety out of Southern Illinois, and then Justin 2:36:42.520 --> 2:36:45.480 Mattaboutca defensive tackle out of Texas A and m Yeah, 2:36:45.480 --> 2:36:47.760 there must be something wrong with him too, you know 2:36:48.000 --> 2:36:50.120 that those character stuff. Well here, yes, we got the 2:36:50.200 --> 2:36:53.720 picks in. Let's see what happens here with the commissioner 2:36:53.760 --> 2:36:59.640 in Carolina. Uh. And the last of second round, there's 2:36:59.680 --> 2:37:02.119 Jeremy Chin. There you go, Jeremy Chin off the board. 2:37:03.120 --> 2:37:06.160 Call that one you say I did? I didn't say Chin, Yeah, 2:37:06.200 --> 2:37:10.640 I said, I said position Dane was the one that guys, 2:37:11.000 --> 2:37:12.480 we were we were tag team in that one. But 2:37:12.560 --> 2:37:14.360 that is the final pick of the second round. Now 2:37:14.440 --> 2:37:17.920 you have the Bengals up, and with the Bengals past history, 2:37:18.040 --> 2:37:21.240 like David alluded to just a moment ago, you're thinking 2:37:21.360 --> 2:37:25.120 Zach Bond here saying they're not afraid, They're never afraid. 2:37:25.320 --> 2:37:27.920 Is there an Ohio player on the board still here? 2:37:28.040 --> 2:37:30.400 But I'm thinking a big ten player, you know what 2:37:30.400 --> 2:37:33.120 I mean. The Brown family's all about that as big ten. 2:37:33.400 --> 2:37:37.959 This could be this could be Bonde. So wait, the Bengals. 2:37:38.000 --> 2:37:40.800 The Bengals went with Higgins at the start of this thing, 2:37:40.959 --> 2:37:43.600 right right right, Yeah, And I sat there and said, 2:37:44.200 --> 2:37:47.520 they need a tackle, and here I'm thinking they should 2:37:47.600 --> 2:37:51.920 draft Josh Jones thirty three. Yeah, and he's still sitting here. Okay, 2:37:51.959 --> 2:37:55.520 that's what I would. Okay, Now, what's wrong with Josh Jones? Seriously? 2:37:55.640 --> 2:37:57.520 What is wrong with I mean, he's raw, right, but 2:37:57.720 --> 2:38:02.480 so what he guy? He has some character stuff earlier 2:38:02.480 --> 2:38:04.000 in his career, but I heard, you know, being a 2:38:04.040 --> 2:38:05.880 red Shard senior, he was passed all of that. So 2:38:05.920 --> 2:38:09.480 I don't know how much that plays in um he 2:38:10.040 --> 2:38:11.879 I'll put it this way. When you watched him on tape. 2:38:11.879 --> 2:38:14.199 Do you remember the best pass rusher you saw him 2:38:14.240 --> 2:38:19.160 go against? That was Marius Hamilton. That was unt zone, 2:38:19.920 --> 2:38:23.640 So I'll throw that out there. That was my biggest 2:38:23.640 --> 2:38:26.480 worry with Josh Jones is all of his tape. I 2:38:26.640 --> 2:38:29.240 just didn't see him go up against a big time 2:38:29.280 --> 2:38:32.360 pass rusher. That made made me get really really jacked 2:38:32.400 --> 2:38:34.200 about what he could do. Now, he did a nice 2:38:34.240 --> 2:38:37.400 job of the Senior Bowl, but still the tape was good, 2:38:37.520 --> 2:38:42.240 but the competition level wasn't necessarily there. Yeah, and that's 2:38:42.360 --> 2:38:43.920 that's something you always got to worry about with those 2:38:43.920 --> 2:38:46.600 American Conference teams that don't play a strong out of 2:38:46.680 --> 2:38:50.760 conference schedule. Maybe Oklahoma would probably be his his toughest. 2:38:50.920 --> 2:38:53.160 And I don't think that was great tape overall for 2:38:53.280 --> 2:38:55.720 Josh Jones. But there's a couple on board here. We 2:38:55.840 --> 2:38:59.240 just lost Logan Wilson to the Cincinnati Bengals. Smart pick 2:38:59.440 --> 2:39:05.240 yep A smart pick. The twenty twenty NFL Draft continues 2:39:05.520 --> 2:39:08.800 on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three 2:39:08.920 --> 2:39:14.240 the Fan. We are into Round three of the NFL 2:39:14.400 --> 2:39:19.440 Draft and we just had Wyoming's linebacker Logan Wilson go 2:39:19.560 --> 2:39:22.520 off the board to the Cincinnati Bengals at number sixty five, 2:39:23.160 --> 2:39:26.040 Cowboys pick at eighty two, and Logan Wilson. I think 2:39:26.080 --> 2:39:28.040 the biggest knock that I had on him was that 2:39:28.160 --> 2:39:30.920 he played at Wyoming. I mean, you want production, you 2:39:31.000 --> 2:39:33.119 want a guy, make him plays in coverage and against 2:39:33.160 --> 2:39:37.080 the run and tackling. Logan Wilson is a really good player. 2:39:37.160 --> 2:39:40.360 Making it all the way to sixty five. He's a 2:39:40.400 --> 2:39:42.400 great player. And I think if I don't want to 2:39:42.440 --> 2:39:44.920 bring the room down again, but I'm going to because 2:39:45.280 --> 2:39:48.040 the blanket of the team now. Four of the last 2:39:48.160 --> 2:39:50.080 five picks have been guys that you would argue that 2:39:50.200 --> 2:39:52.800 you really wanted to fall to eighty two. You've got Fulton, 2:39:52.840 --> 2:39:55.400 Willie Gay, Junior, Jeremy chinon Logan Wilson. Those are four 2:39:55.440 --> 2:39:58.160 guys that they would have gone to eighty two. I 2:39:58.200 --> 2:40:00.280 would have been excited about. Who are you saying, NA about? 2:40:00.280 --> 2:40:03.440 I mean, maybe Jeremy Chin wasn't gonna be the pick 2:40:03.600 --> 2:40:06.920 in Dallas. That's I just I don't believe he's gone 2:40:06.959 --> 2:40:09.039 now anyway, But I don't go as our fast food 2:40:09.160 --> 2:40:13.280 bet true and then and and my point and Logan Wilson, 2:40:13.760 --> 2:40:15.920 I think he's a good player, But it feels too 2:40:16.000 --> 2:40:19.000 early for a linebacker for me. I'm looking at linebackers 2:40:19.040 --> 2:40:21.680 on Day three, so I'm not sad about him going 2:40:21.720 --> 2:40:24.520 off the board. All Right, you guys want to reset. 2:40:24.560 --> 2:40:26.959 I know Dane set us up with his top five 2:40:27.040 --> 2:40:30.360 available recently. I've got my top five available for the 2:40:30.480 --> 2:40:34.080 Cowboys that I would like to see picked. That's left 2:40:34.120 --> 2:40:35.800 in the draft right now. If you're following at home, 2:40:35.840 --> 2:40:42.240 we'll get it after the Washington pick. Right here. Gibson 2:40:42.959 --> 2:40:47.840 running back, Memphis running back slash, wide receiver, slash. Get 2:40:47.920 --> 2:40:49.840 the ball in the dude's hands and let him work. 2:40:50.000 --> 2:40:52.720 Very much like Tony Pollard last year Memphis. Different players, 2:40:53.320 --> 2:40:55.640 but same sort of thing. Get the ball in Antonio 2:40:55.720 --> 2:40:58.480 Gibson's hand and let him work. And I think that 2:40:58.640 --> 2:41:00.920 that is what Washington is going to do. He's a 2:41:00.959 --> 2:41:04.000 pretty good one day. How's your scouting report on Antonio Gibson? 2:41:04.440 --> 2:41:06.119 Just get the ball in his hands, and I think 2:41:06.160 --> 2:41:08.119 what's the that's the debate. Is he a running back? 2:41:08.240 --> 2:41:10.480 Is he a receiver? All I know is when he 2:41:10.560 --> 2:41:13.000 had a chance to do something with the ball, he 2:41:13.080 --> 2:41:15.880 would create. And this is a He's a big guy 2:41:16.520 --> 2:41:19.280 at six foot two, hundred and twenty eight pounds, really 2:41:19.360 --> 2:41:21.800 good athlete. Ran in the leave. He got in the 2:41:21.840 --> 2:41:25.240 four threes at the combine four three nine. So if 2:41:25.320 --> 2:41:27.039 you want to use him in a slot, you want 2:41:27.080 --> 2:41:28.800 to use him my jet sweeps, you want to use 2:41:28.879 --> 2:41:30.960 him out of the backfield. You can get creative with 2:41:31.000 --> 2:41:33.640 a player like this, and I think his best football 2:41:33.680 --> 2:41:37.640 is ahead of him. So my top five guys for 2:41:37.720 --> 2:41:39.360 the Cowboys, And tell me if you guys want to 2:41:39.360 --> 2:41:41.440 add names or if you disagree with them, but where 2:41:41.520 --> 2:41:45.600 we sit right now, Zach Bond like it at Wisconsin, 2:41:46.920 --> 2:41:50.840 Justin Mattabuke at A and M that'd be great, Jordan 2:41:50.879 --> 2:41:58.039 Elliott at Missouri, Terrell Burgess at Utah, and Akeem Davis Gaither. 2:41:58.280 --> 2:42:00.520 That's my top five guys available to think are at 2:42:00.560 --> 2:42:02.960 positions that could help the Cowboys. And I think there's 2:42:02.959 --> 2:42:05.240 gonna be one of those guys there because even with 2:42:05.400 --> 2:42:07.440 some of the names that are falling here, like a 2:42:07.560 --> 2:42:10.360 Josh Jones and an Ashton Davis, that's still on the board. 2:42:10.600 --> 2:42:13.200 And Prince Tega went on, I want to go from 2:42:13.440 --> 2:42:16.360 from Auburn. I mean, there's still picks to be made here, 2:42:16.480 --> 2:42:19.160 even quarterbacks that haven't gone, think about this might be 2:42:19.280 --> 2:42:22.199 the sweet spot for a Jake from or a Jacob 2:42:22.240 --> 2:42:25.480 Easton to potentially go. I think there's some I would 2:42:25.520 --> 2:42:29.920 throw Neville Gallimore in there, that's true, Um, Julian Aquara 2:42:30.200 --> 2:42:32.920 from noted, Yeah, for sure, they'll sitting there. I would 2:42:33.000 --> 2:42:35.720 even How do y'all feel about is it? Is it 2:42:35.800 --> 2:42:44.119 too soon to talk about Zooniga Florida za Zooigay? Yeah, 2:42:44.240 --> 2:42:46.560 he would be a guy I would consider. I thought 2:42:46.600 --> 2:42:49.080 the traits I was worried about. I might have missed 2:42:49.120 --> 2:42:52.040 something there. I have him a lot higher than people do. 2:42:52.600 --> 2:42:54.920 But I was watching the Florida tape of him, and 2:42:55.080 --> 2:42:57.120 I was seeing the first step quickness. I've seen a 2:42:57.160 --> 2:42:59.600 guy getting around the edge. I've seen a guy being disruptive. 2:43:00.080 --> 2:43:02.920 So I might be way way high on him. Yeah, 2:43:02.920 --> 2:43:04.880 I wish he wasn't so banged up in this in 2:43:04.959 --> 2:43:08.520 this most recent season. But so those are some Those 2:43:08.520 --> 2:43:11.240 are some defensive linemen. And then we hit on the centers. 2:43:11.440 --> 2:43:13.560 I don't think they need to do it. They have 2:43:13.680 --> 2:43:17.760 Connor McGovern obviously, Joe Looney's here, but I mean every 2:43:17.879 --> 2:43:21.280 center except for Caesar Ruiz is there. Lloyd Cushionberry Tyler 2:43:21.360 --> 2:43:24.760 beats Matt Hennessey, So if they want to do that, 2:43:24.920 --> 2:43:28.280 they can. But I mean, for the most part, I think, Jeff, 2:43:28.320 --> 2:43:31.080 your list is is pretty solid. Well, thank you, thank you, Dave. 2:43:31.120 --> 2:43:33.280 How are we? How's everybody on Cameron Danceler? Did the 2:43:33.360 --> 2:43:35.320 forty scare you like it did me? I've got him 2:43:35.320 --> 2:43:38.240 bottom a second early third, but I'm here, I got 2:43:38.280 --> 2:43:40.360 I pushed him down with a forty time. I'd be 2:43:40.440 --> 2:43:42.240 okay with him at eighty two though, if he's the 2:43:42.560 --> 2:43:46.320 best available there corner wise, I swear to god i'd 2:43:46.360 --> 2:43:48.360 gone already address corner that I'd have gone to start 2:43:48.400 --> 2:43:50.360 field and got him running a lot faster. Boys, I'm 2:43:50.400 --> 2:43:54.640 not talking four three faster. They said, Yeah, I don't. 2:43:54.760 --> 2:43:58.200 It was the thirty eight yard time he was faster. 2:43:58.800 --> 2:44:01.040 How can you? How can you know? Watch that tape 2:44:01.080 --> 2:44:03.080 and like be impressed by the way he played? Was 2:44:03.240 --> 2:44:05.360 he does? He played well? Everybody's like, oh, he's a 2:44:05.440 --> 2:44:07.360 second round guy, and then he runs bad. Jeff goes, 2:44:07.400 --> 2:44:09.240 oh my gosh, he's in the fourth for me. Now, 2:44:10.400 --> 2:44:16.240 I mean, hey, Jamara, he didn't play Sloan, not at all. Yeah, 2:44:16.760 --> 2:44:20.240 I mean, I work with a bunch of Cowards, that's 2:44:20.280 --> 2:44:23.480 where he goes. I would feel fine drafting him at 2:44:23.520 --> 2:44:27.240 eighty two. But we're starting to get into a spot 2:44:27.320 --> 2:44:29.720 where I can you know, we're getting close enough to 2:44:29.760 --> 2:44:31.760 the point where you can envision what the board's gonna 2:44:31.800 --> 2:44:34.039 look like. And I'm not convinced he would be your 2:44:34.080 --> 2:44:36.440 best available option. I mean, I think there's other names 2:44:36.480 --> 2:44:39.280 there that are more intrigued. Did we say say Okuara? Yeah, 2:44:39.440 --> 2:44:42.560 yeah we did. Okay, I'm sure he might be. I'm sorry. 2:44:42.800 --> 2:44:48.279 I would for me. For me, I think Oquara Gallimore 2:44:48.879 --> 2:44:52.040 and Jordan Elliott, oh and Bond obviously, like Bond is 2:44:52.080 --> 2:44:54.879 probably tops, but those are the names that really stand 2:44:54.959 --> 2:44:56.840 out to me right now. Burgess is my name that 2:44:56.959 --> 2:44:59.680 stands out. Yeah, scooped him up, Just scooped him up. 2:44:59.720 --> 2:45:01.720 This more learning Dane scooped him in the mock draft. 2:45:01.760 --> 2:45:04.680 And I think getting a safety in here with coverage ability, 2:45:05.080 --> 2:45:08.800 reliable tackler, versatility, Yeah, I think for a team that's 2:45:08.840 --> 2:45:10.960 got two safeties on a one year deal right now, 2:45:11.120 --> 2:45:13.440 Xavier Woods and Haha, Clinton Dicks. If the right guy 2:45:13.560 --> 2:45:16.560 is there, and to me, that's the right guy at safety, 2:45:16.840 --> 2:45:20.280 He's be happy with that. Has Detroit addressed their edge 2:45:20.360 --> 2:45:23.960 rush problem because they need an edge rusher, and I 2:45:24.040 --> 2:45:26.640 don't think they've picked one because they selected a Kuda. 2:45:26.760 --> 2:45:28.800 Oh yeah, no, and they took DeAndre Swift in the 2:45:28.840 --> 2:45:31.960 second round. So edge rusher man. Yeah, they might go, 2:45:32.080 --> 2:45:35.360 they might go not yeah, they might take Aquara here. Yeah. 2:45:36.760 --> 2:45:39.680 Curtis Weaver still out there as well. Oh, I didn't remember. 2:45:39.760 --> 2:45:42.360 I forgot about Curtis Weaver. Dane, were you okay with 2:45:42.480 --> 2:45:46.760 him standing up all the time as a rusher? Weaver? Yeah, uh, 2:45:47.080 --> 2:45:50.440 he's he's tough to figure out. Bad body guys. Yeah, 2:45:51.360 --> 2:45:54.360 you know, he's predictable, but really good with his hands 2:45:54.560 --> 2:45:57.959 and you can't ignore the productions. So the Commissiers Dane 2:45:57.959 --> 2:46:02.560 real quick twenty NFL draft the Detroit Lions. So like 2:46:03.560 --> 2:46:08.840 Julian Ouah minebacker notre Day. I am a fan of 2:46:08.959 --> 2:46:11.240 Julian Aquara. I had him as a second round guy. 2:46:11.320 --> 2:46:14.240 I think the tools to be a really good pass rusher. 2:46:14.360 --> 2:46:17.520 I think he's got him. I think the athletic ability, 2:46:17.720 --> 2:46:21.160 the movement, skills, the length. I liked a lot about him. 2:46:21.840 --> 2:46:23.680 I didn't think he was gonna make eighty two, but 2:46:23.720 --> 2:46:24.840 it would have been a lot of fun if he 2:46:24.920 --> 2:46:30.680 did so, Julian o'quara, Dane, you're scouting report there. I 2:46:30.840 --> 2:46:33.000 really struggled with him because I think you're you're spot 2:46:33.080 --> 2:46:36.920 on with the traits and the natural ability. The speed 2:46:37.440 --> 2:46:39.160 has a chance to be special off the edge, but 2:46:39.640 --> 2:46:42.240 he has no idea how to use his hands. He's 2:46:42.240 --> 2:46:45.000 a little soft in the run game. That really bothered me. 2:46:45.680 --> 2:46:48.800 And I hate using that sword when talking about these 2:46:48.840 --> 2:46:52.520 guys because that's kind of a it's a cuss word. Yeah, 2:46:52.560 --> 2:46:54.800 it's not it's not nice, and so I apologize, but 2:46:55.240 --> 2:46:57.000 it's what you see, that's what the tape says. And 2:46:58.760 --> 2:47:02.400 it's just too many, almost most plays on his tape, 2:47:02.560 --> 2:47:04.120 you know. And so but you know, we're in the 2:47:04.200 --> 2:47:06.560 third round now, and so we're talking about traits, we're 2:47:06.600 --> 2:47:10.200 talking about upside of potential and what he can be. Uh. 2:47:10.360 --> 2:47:13.119 You know, the Lions are very familiar with the Acora family. 2:47:13.160 --> 2:47:16.400 They had his brother. Uh they still have them, don't they. Yeah, 2:47:16.480 --> 2:47:18.960 he's is he still in the roster? You're still on 2:47:19.000 --> 2:47:20.600 the roster. I was trying to look that up right now, 2:47:20.640 --> 2:47:23.720 and I think you're very familiar with with that family. 2:47:24.080 --> 2:47:27.080 In the the ability that he has also a Notre 2:47:27.160 --> 2:47:29.880 Dame product, by the way, his brother. So now we 2:47:29.959 --> 2:47:32.080 got the New York Jets on the clock where it 2:47:32.200 --> 2:47:36.960 picks sixty eight Cowboys at eighty two. We're looking at 2:47:37.680 --> 2:47:42.080 Matt Patricia, which is a Lion's head coach, while the 2:47:42.200 --> 2:47:44.400 Jets are on the clock. So that's kind of confusing. 2:47:44.520 --> 2:47:47.280 Or I guess it's at the aftermath of their pick. Yeah, okay, 2:47:47.440 --> 2:47:49.920 that makes more sense. So we're waiting on a Jets pick. 2:47:50.000 --> 2:47:52.640 Then it'll be Seattle and then Miami. We're here in 2:47:52.720 --> 2:47:55.160 the early part of the third round of the draft 2:47:55.200 --> 2:47:56.920 here on one O five three The Fan and Dallas 2:47:57.040 --> 2:48:00.760 Cowboys dot Com. New York Jets so far have added 2:48:00.840 --> 2:48:05.080 McKay Beckton to play offensive tackle. They've added Denzel Mims 2:48:05.240 --> 2:48:08.160 to play wide receiver out of Baylor, and this will 2:48:08.200 --> 2:48:11.680 be their third pick of the draft. Outside of what 2:48:11.760 --> 2:48:14.600 they've already addressed on the offensive line and at wide receiver, 2:48:15.120 --> 2:48:22.280 where else might we think they're going cornerback help? They 2:48:22.400 --> 2:48:24.840 need corner in the worst way. And you know I 2:48:24.959 --> 2:48:27.080 mentioned it before. I don't think their fans could name 2:48:27.160 --> 2:48:29.200 the top three corners on their rosters. So it picks 2:48:29.280 --> 2:48:36.200 in Dance Ashton Davis say it's gone Ashton Davis. I 2:48:36.240 --> 2:48:38.160 think he could play a little bit of cornerback. I 2:48:38.200 --> 2:48:40.320 mean he looks like a corners two hundred pounds, So 2:48:40.879 --> 2:48:44.560 I don't think that's necessarily this is him. Just put 2:48:44.640 --> 2:48:47.800 him at safety and that's it. Uh. They might be 2:48:47.840 --> 2:48:49.880 able to look at him as a nickelback, someone that 2:48:49.959 --> 2:48:53.000 can play a little inside, a little outside. Ashton Davis 2:48:53.000 --> 2:48:55.240 is a fun player. All right. Here's my problem with 2:48:55.360 --> 2:48:57.720 the Ashton Davis pick. I have a huge problem with 2:48:57.800 --> 2:49:00.640 this pick. He's not account you wanted him. No, I 2:49:00.800 --> 2:49:03.720 was fine with him going like Burgess actually better than Davis. 2:49:03.760 --> 2:49:05.240 I might be the only one, but I'm okay with that. 2:49:06.040 --> 2:49:08.280 Burgess to me, now is going to be the next 2:49:08.320 --> 2:49:12.840 safety picked. Are there other options that could be the 2:49:12.920 --> 2:49:15.320 next safety pick that could keep him moving down the board. 2:49:15.600 --> 2:49:19.360 What if somebody likes Wallace from Wallace Wallace from Clemson, 2:49:19.400 --> 2:49:21.800 because if you watch him play, he plays like a 2:49:21.920 --> 2:49:25.400 slot player too. You know that weird? You get confused 2:49:25.440 --> 2:49:28.120 watching Clemson's defense. Yeah, I mean they do things with 2:49:28.200 --> 2:49:30.600 their secondary. You're like, oh, that's not sound, you know, 2:49:30.760 --> 2:49:33.720 but yeah, no they don't. But they get away with 2:49:33.760 --> 2:49:35.840 it because they get their front home because they got 2:49:35.879 --> 2:49:39.000 Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, they got guys to get Yeah, I 2:49:39.080 --> 2:49:42.959 mean besides Burgess, you got Brandon Jones out of Texas, Yeah, 2:49:44.400 --> 2:49:48.760 out of Iowa, Tanner Music, Clemson. Stone's a good player, though. 2:49:48.800 --> 2:49:51.960 I like Stone. My safety's left goes Burgess and then Stone. 2:49:52.040 --> 2:49:56.560 And my next guy is actually the XFL guy, Robinson Robinson. Yeah, 2:49:56.560 --> 2:49:58.920 I forget about him. I like Kenny Robinson and then 2:49:59.000 --> 2:50:03.040 Cavan Wallace and then Brandon Jones. But I worried that 2:50:03.360 --> 2:50:07.120 Burgess maybe the next safety off the board. And so we'll, uh, 2:50:07.440 --> 2:50:10.640 we'll keep track of just that's fine. Just push Sackbon 2:50:10.760 --> 2:50:13.080 all the way down. Just push Sackbon all the way 2:50:13.120 --> 2:50:16.119 to eighty two. And let's see. Could you imagine if 2:50:16.240 --> 2:50:18.080 Zach Bond was there at eighty two and you know, 2:50:18.840 --> 2:50:21.920 Lamb Trayvon Diggs and Zach Bond as your draft class 2:50:21.959 --> 2:50:25.000 in days one and two. I wouldn't mind that at all. 2:50:25.080 --> 2:50:27.960 In another linebacker, I'll take app State to Keem Davis 2:50:28.040 --> 2:50:30.320 Gaither and if you want to try him strong safety, 2:50:30.520 --> 2:50:33.600 I'm at Snyder's about to pick him. Watch. John is 2:50:33.640 --> 2:50:36.439 gonna take a guy that can run, you know, linebackers 2:50:36.520 --> 2:50:38.840 that can run. Harry took one in the first round, though, 2:50:38.879 --> 2:50:41.760 well he doesn't care. You know, he doesn't care. In 2:50:41.840 --> 2:50:46.440 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select Amien 2:50:46.560 --> 2:50:54.200 Lewis Guards. There you go, damiens player drafted so far. 2:50:54.360 --> 2:50:58.640 I think no Delpit went to Cleveland guys. Oh yeah, 2:50:59.120 --> 2:51:03.520 thank you. Second round Damian Lewis round scouting report from 2:51:03.600 --> 2:51:07.560 Dane Brugler. Massive guy, and this is someone that the 2:51:07.920 --> 2:51:12.120 LSU coaching style loves because of the meaner that he 2:51:12.200 --> 2:51:15.440 plays with, toughness. You don't see a lot of negative 2:51:15.480 --> 2:51:18.200 reps on his tape. Not the most mobile guy. You're 2:51:18.240 --> 2:51:20.400 not gonna ask him to be on the move very much. 2:51:20.480 --> 2:51:23.080 He'll bury you, yeah, in his phone and in his 2:51:23.200 --> 2:51:25.800 little phone booth. Yeah, you're right. He will beat you 2:51:26.000 --> 2:51:28.920 up and and bury you to the ground. So he's 2:51:28.959 --> 2:51:30.640 a fun player. Yeah. I think he had to make 2:51:30.640 --> 2:51:32.880 a lot of plays because Christian Berry was kind of 2:51:33.280 --> 2:51:37.640 if he had time. I'm just saying that I sat 2:51:37.720 --> 2:51:40.360 next to cow I'm just saying now, boys are definitely 2:51:40.440 --> 2:51:43.480 drafting Christian Berry. Now if they do. If they do, great, 2:51:43.600 --> 2:51:46.600 I mean, will crack a Miller light if they draft 2:51:47.280 --> 2:51:50.360 I just just a wide bass guy. I'm sorry, I'm 2:51:50.400 --> 2:51:52.240 just don't. I mean, I see a catcher there. I 2:51:52.320 --> 2:51:54.600 just don't. I like the I like the other guy 2:51:54.640 --> 2:51:56.720 better from Temple. But hey, we'll see. Are we here? You? 2:51:56.879 --> 2:51:59.560 We saw you just swerved out. Have you swerved out 2:51:59.600 --> 2:52:02.039 of your plane to fire a shot at cushion? John's 2:52:02.040 --> 2:52:05.560 put on some weight? What's going on? Oh? Wow, get 2:52:05.640 --> 2:52:10.080 on friends, You get on soda for six months and 2:52:10.120 --> 2:52:13.080 start taking shots at people's weight. Text him, text him 2:52:13.080 --> 2:52:17.400 and tell me fat. Say I said you're fat? I 2:52:17.480 --> 2:52:20.320 will I got just no Braw'll show you that he was. 2:52:20.440 --> 2:52:23.640 He's kind of wearing that football. Football guys who have 2:52:23.760 --> 2:52:26.640 let themselves go love to wear that wet pants now. 2:52:26.680 --> 2:52:29.560 They just love to wear that like windbreaker outfits, like 2:52:29.840 --> 2:52:34.720 the like the ambiguous windbreaker thing. It doesn't really have 2:52:34.920 --> 2:52:40.360 sleeves up, No sleeves just kind of hangs down. I just, 2:52:40.680 --> 2:52:44.000 I mean, I'm not surprised because the Seahawks offensive line 2:52:44.040 --> 2:52:46.520 has been trying to get Russell Wilson killed for years. 2:52:46.600 --> 2:52:49.960 But I feel like they've added about nineteen old linemen 2:52:50.040 --> 2:52:52.600 to that roster just this offseason alone. We get the 2:52:52.680 --> 2:52:55.240 Miami Dolphins on the clock at seventy we are working 2:52:55.320 --> 2:52:58.560 our way towards eighty two, will come back with the 2:52:58.680 --> 2:53:01.840 Dolphins pick, and then seventy one, seventy two, and all 2:53:01.920 --> 2:53:03.840 the way down to eighty two. You're listening to the 2:53:03.879 --> 2:53:06.440 twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three The 2:53:06.480 --> 2:53:12.360 Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And here's the internet 2:53:12.440 --> 2:53:15.800 side of things, as once again, I feel like this 2:53:16.000 --> 2:53:19.440 is every twenty minutes, but the Miami Miami Dolphins are 2:53:19.520 --> 2:53:21.760 on the clock again, believe it or not, because they've 2:53:21.800 --> 2:53:24.200 got just a handful of picks. Throughout the course of 2:53:24.280 --> 2:53:28.280 the draft, Cowboys just about outside of that range where 2:53:28.280 --> 2:53:31.080 we can start seeing how the board is shaping up. 2:53:31.200 --> 2:53:34.640 Kyle Yeomen's Jeff Kavanaugh, Brian brought us, David Hellman and 2:53:34.800 --> 2:53:37.040 the great Dane Brugler with you here on the Dallas 2:53:37.080 --> 2:53:41.119 Cowboys dot Com Draft show. And of course, with eleven 2:53:41.200 --> 2:53:43.520 picks left, there's a lot of things that can happen, 2:53:43.600 --> 2:53:47.000 but there are some really interesting names still available. Zach Bond, 2:53:47.520 --> 2:53:55.600 Curtis Weaver, Justin Mattabeke, Brandon Jones in like, excuse me, 2:53:55.680 --> 2:53:57.920 Kavanaugh was saying a little bit earlier. There's some safeties 2:53:57.959 --> 2:54:02.360 there that have some have some oomph to them if 2:54:02.440 --> 2:54:05.320 you're talking about Tarell Burgess maybe in that category as well. 2:54:05.400 --> 2:54:08.360 So with the Dolphins on the clock here, they've had 2:54:08.400 --> 2:54:11.280 one of the more intriguing drafts because they've kind of 2:54:11.400 --> 2:54:14.000 gone outside of the realm of what we thought could happen. 2:54:14.080 --> 2:54:16.520 What do you think maybe again here with the Dolphins 2:54:16.640 --> 2:54:20.080 at seventy, we got to work through all the picks 2:54:20.160 --> 2:54:22.400 that they've already made. I know it's tough. You got 2:54:22.520 --> 2:54:25.560 to go back through chapters. Yeah, quarterback to h they 2:54:25.640 --> 2:54:29.279 took Austin Jackson at offensive tackle, Noah Igbanogny at corner 2:54:32.640 --> 2:54:37.560 illstimate tackle here, ray Kuan Davis at defensive tackle. Fortunately, 2:54:37.640 --> 2:54:41.840 that team needs everything. If linebackers one of those things, 2:54:42.640 --> 2:54:45.760 Zach Bonn or Akeem Davis gaither, they would be at 2:54:45.800 --> 2:54:48.720 the top of my board for the linebackers. Harrison at 2:54:48.760 --> 2:54:52.760 Ohio State at linebacker. Right now, they've got ray Kwon 2:54:52.879 --> 2:54:55.680 McMillan and Jerome Bakers or linebackers, and I don't think 2:54:55.680 --> 2:55:00.840 they're feeling super great about that right So that being said, 2:55:01.040 --> 2:55:03.320 I could see them going linebacker here. You can maybe 2:55:03.360 --> 2:55:05.800 say safety because I didn't hear a safety mentioned in there. 2:55:05.800 --> 2:55:07.680 They haven't taken one of them. They took a corner. 2:55:07.720 --> 2:55:10.800 We're trying to dodge that here, Kyle's on purpose. We're 2:55:10.840 --> 2:55:13.440 trying to dodge that. Kyle trying to get Drell Burgess there. Okay, 2:55:13.560 --> 2:55:15.760 I want Terrell Burgess there, and I don't want him 2:55:15.760 --> 2:55:17.560 to be the next safety picked. I would rather be 2:55:17.680 --> 2:55:20.800 like a Brandon Jones or uh, I don't even know 2:55:21.040 --> 2:55:24.240 who we mentioned earlier in that con zone. Yeah, Gino Stone, 2:55:24.240 --> 2:55:26.440 that's fine, Yeah, that's fine, let him go and we'll 2:55:26.560 --> 2:55:30.959 we'll take Terrell Burgess. But I mean, I think linebacker 2:55:31.080 --> 2:55:33.240 or safety is probably where they could go here. Could 2:55:33.240 --> 2:55:38.480 they add a wide receiver? Maybe? Yeah, they could. Yeah, 2:55:38.600 --> 2:55:41.240 who's everybody's top wide receiver? Left? I bet this is where. 2:55:41.840 --> 2:55:43.400 I bet this is where it gets really fun because 2:55:43.400 --> 2:55:46.400 for me, it's actually kJ Hill, then Brian Edwards, then 2:55:46.440 --> 2:55:49.720 Antonio Gandy Gold. Those are my top three receivers. Give 2:55:49.760 --> 2:55:54.240 me Edward, yeah, I would. I think you guys are 2:55:54.280 --> 2:55:56.200 hating on a great route runner in kJ Hill and 2:55:56.280 --> 2:56:00.520 not appreciate it. I love kJ Hill to death, but 2:56:00.680 --> 2:56:03.000 I can't draft a guy that runs I've got six 2:56:03.200 --> 2:56:05.560 five in the third round, I've got an incredible round 2:56:05.600 --> 2:56:09.520 there where it's got Prochet duven at Van Jefferson was 2:56:09.600 --> 2:56:12.640 in that group along with kJ Hill and Bowden. That 2:56:12.760 --> 2:56:14.880 was kind of Limboden Junior is my name. That was 2:56:14.959 --> 2:56:16.880 kind of my little group of like, oh, I'm kind 2:56:16.920 --> 2:56:19.240 of keeping an eye on you guys over here. I'm 2:56:19.280 --> 2:56:22.000 really sad about I'm really sad that I just have 2:56:22.160 --> 2:56:25.280 to let go of all these receivers. I mean, I'd 2:56:25.360 --> 2:56:27.280 rather have Ceedee lamb. Don't get me wrong, but like 2:56:27.440 --> 2:56:31.080 I've been, I've been watching this position for months and 2:56:31.800 --> 2:56:34.400 maybe they double up on receiver, but it's not as 2:56:34.480 --> 2:56:36.760 high of a priority. I mean it's the fifty burger 2:56:36.840 --> 2:56:40.920 offensive thing, yeah for real. But Brian Edwards before Ceedee 2:56:41.000 --> 2:56:43.240 Lamb fell, Brian Edwards would have been a pipe dream 2:56:43.280 --> 2:56:45.119 at eighty two. I would have loved that pick. Yeah, 2:56:45.200 --> 2:56:49.920 Brandon Jones just went we did. We got a different safety. 2:56:49.959 --> 2:56:55.240 You go, all right, suckers. Yes, I like Brandon Jones. 2:56:55.280 --> 2:56:56.520 I had him be in the fourth though, But I 2:56:56.680 --> 2:56:59.360 like Brandon Jones. But Roll Burges I got his two three, 2:56:59.440 --> 2:57:02.600 so hey, there hang their burges Cam interested because Jeff 2:57:02.640 --> 2:57:04.480 and I were split on this guy, Dane as far 2:57:04.760 --> 2:57:06.680 can he cover or can he not cover? I don't 2:57:06.720 --> 2:57:09.760 trust him in coverage. Yeah, I think you're I think 2:57:09.800 --> 2:57:13.400 you're right. I think you want him. I wasn't impressed 2:57:13.400 --> 2:57:15.640 with him as a nickel, but the closer he was 2:57:15.760 --> 2:57:17.640 the line of scrimmage, that's where I liked him because 2:57:17.720 --> 2:57:20.440 I thought he did a nice job with the play 2:57:20.520 --> 2:57:22.959 in front of him. But when he had to turn 2:57:23.040 --> 2:57:24.960 his back to the ball, that's where I think, Yeah, 2:57:24.959 --> 2:57:26.720 I got a little money. I just kind of thought 2:57:26.760 --> 2:57:28.240 that he was a little bit of a better cover 2:57:28.400 --> 2:57:31.199 guy than and and he's got an athletic ability. Jeff 2:57:31.240 --> 2:57:33.360 and I were going back and forth because people were 2:57:33.400 --> 2:57:36.320 asking us about him, you know, on our during our show, 2:57:36.480 --> 2:57:38.760 like what what's your problem with Brandon Jones? And I'm like, 2:57:39.000 --> 2:57:42.280 I think the guy can cover, yeah, But Jeff is like, 2:57:42.320 --> 2:57:44.520 I'd rather see him play down is where he and 2:57:44.640 --> 2:57:46.080 you know, it looks like the highlights are showing a 2:57:46.080 --> 2:57:48.119 little bit. That looks like they're showing a little coverage. 2:57:48.600 --> 2:57:50.120 He just needs to keep the ball in front of him. 2:57:50.160 --> 2:57:51.840 I think if the ball, if he has to turn 2:57:51.920 --> 2:57:53.840 his back to the ball, That's where I thought he 2:57:53.959 --> 2:57:56.160 just he looked lost. So as long I think he 2:57:56.200 --> 2:57:58.040 could play high, as long as the ball stays in 2:57:58.080 --> 2:58:01.280 front of him, well him up like Jabrill Peppers, like 2:58:01.360 --> 2:58:04.000 forty five yards off the line. Here you go. Just 2:58:04.080 --> 2:58:07.280 get ready to be a punt returners, a safety. I 2:58:07.400 --> 2:58:09.959 like that plan. So what do we got? We got 2:58:10.040 --> 2:58:13.879 the Baltimore Ravens up at seventy one, working our way 2:58:13.879 --> 2:58:16.240 to eighty two or Terrell Burgess will be on the board. 2:58:16.879 --> 2:58:20.920 This is the twenty twenty NFL Draft with Jeff Kavanaugh. 2:58:21.200 --> 2:58:25.720 Prian brought us Dane Hellman, Dane Brugler, and Kyle Yeoman niece. 2:58:26.000 --> 2:58:28.280 They lost to safety, but it was Brandon Jones, not 2:58:28.480 --> 2:58:35.360 Terrell Burgess. Here's Baltimore selection Justin Matta Bouque, defensive tackle 2:58:35.640 --> 2:58:37.760 Texas A and M. That would be a guy that 2:58:37.920 --> 2:58:39.840 is coming off of the list of guys I would 2:58:39.879 --> 2:58:42.400 love to see the Cowboys pick up at eighty two. 2:58:42.560 --> 2:58:46.520 Mada Bouque. I was. I was really high on his tape. 2:58:46.600 --> 2:58:48.320 I had him. I liked him at the top of 2:58:48.360 --> 2:58:50.360 the second round, and here we are in the middle 2:58:50.360 --> 2:58:52.800 of the third where he goes and it goes to 2:58:53.040 --> 2:58:55.960 I think Dane and Brian some of the things that 2:58:57.000 --> 2:58:58.720 you hear about that I don't get to find out 2:58:58.840 --> 2:59:01.760 when I just watched tape. But on tape, man, I 2:59:01.879 --> 2:59:04.720 love the tools you have. I love was he six 2:59:04.760 --> 2:59:07.080 and a half sacks back to back years, back to 2:59:07.120 --> 2:59:09.520 back years of double digit tackles for loss. I think 2:59:09.560 --> 2:59:12.080 he can win early. I think he can pressure the quarterback. 2:59:12.600 --> 2:59:15.720 And he's off the board at number seventy one. Well, 2:59:15.760 --> 2:59:18.240 it's funny. I was talking to a scout about George 2:59:18.320 --> 2:59:21.360 Elliott at a Missouri defensive tackle and Matt Bouquet saying, 2:59:21.879 --> 2:59:24.800 these guys got some talent they flash on tape. Had 2:59:24.800 --> 2:59:26.840 the scout kind of look at me, or actually he 2:59:26.840 --> 2:59:28.200 didn't look at me as over the phone, and he 2:59:28.360 --> 2:59:29.840 kind of I could hear in his voice though he 2:59:29.959 --> 2:59:33.640 was yeah. And the interviews did not go well for 2:59:33.680 --> 2:59:36.680 those two players and for different teams. So but the 2:59:36.800 --> 2:59:38.520 Ravens what do they do? They sit and they wait 2:59:38.600 --> 2:59:40.520 and good players fall to them. And this is a 2:59:40.600 --> 2:59:44.720 power packed player, twitchy, he can rush, he can make 2:59:44.760 --> 2:59:49.080 plays in the run game or against the run. There's 2:59:49.080 --> 2:59:51.680 a lot to like about what he offers. I think 2:59:51.720 --> 2:59:53.440 that this is a guy I've said all along that 2:59:53.480 --> 2:59:56.960 I probably could be the wrong most wrong about you know, 2:59:56.959 --> 2:59:59.560 because I went back and forth on him about the 2:59:59.640 --> 3:00:02.200 twitch athlete and things like that, and then I just 3:00:02.320 --> 3:00:04.640 saw like lack of awareness. Like there were times you 3:00:04.680 --> 3:00:06.600 watched him the Clemson game, he got trapped like four 3:00:06.680 --> 3:00:09.240 times in a row and they never figured it out. 3:00:09.640 --> 3:00:11.680 So I was kind of like going, gosh, dang, man, 3:00:11.760 --> 3:00:13.240 are you getting tired of getting hit in the side 3:00:13.280 --> 3:00:15.760 of the head. You know, play with your hands, keep 3:00:15.800 --> 3:00:18.480 that outside shoulder free. And then you know, but he's 3:00:18.840 --> 3:00:21.720 one of those guys. Dang's right though he can create turnovers. 3:00:21.800 --> 3:00:24.880 He can. He's got athletic ability. He just doesn't show 3:00:24.920 --> 3:00:26.880 it enough. That's what bothered him. Here's here's a pick 3:00:26.920 --> 3:00:30.440 from the commissioner for the Arizona Cardinal Josh Jones, that 3:00:30.720 --> 3:00:34.879 finally took long enough. There is a free fall ending 3:00:34.959 --> 3:00:36.720 there for a guy that I had seen in some 3:00:36.879 --> 3:00:39.520 first round mox. It'll be Josh Jones there to the 3:00:39.680 --> 3:00:43.080 Arizona Cardinals at seventy two. So I played the you know, 3:00:43.160 --> 3:00:46.120 I played the game that draft nerds love to play, 3:00:46.160 --> 3:00:48.240 where you pick your top thirty two players that you 3:00:48.320 --> 3:00:50.600 think have the best chance to go in the first round. 3:00:51.400 --> 3:00:54.960 Here it picks seventy two. I finally crossed them all off, 3:00:55.360 --> 3:00:59.359 which I'm not an expert expert, so I'm not surprised 3:00:59.360 --> 3:01:01.440 that it took. So I am surprised that the last 3:01:01.520 --> 3:01:03.960 guy to go is Josh Jones. I would not have 3:01:04.080 --> 3:01:06.880 guessed that heading into the draft. Well, and this is 3:01:07.280 --> 3:01:09.920 a guy who was even though he was at Houston, 3:01:10.000 --> 3:01:12.720 he was recruited by Tom Herman to Houston. You got 3:01:12.840 --> 3:01:15.720 to think about whenever back when before Tom was the 3:01:16.000 --> 3:01:19.320 head coach of Texas and according to Pro Football Focus, 3:01:19.360 --> 3:01:21.000 I'm looking at the grade they have of him right now, 3:01:21.080 --> 3:01:24.080 and he was graded above a ninety three in almost 3:01:24.120 --> 3:01:27.440 every category. And so I like Josh Jones. I actually 3:01:27.480 --> 3:01:29.040 met him at the combine, which was kind of fun 3:01:29.160 --> 3:01:31.840 in the airport. He was on my flight, but he 3:01:32.000 --> 3:01:34.800 was unpredictable on his tape with his hands, and I 3:01:34.879 --> 3:01:38.240 think that kept defensive linemen off balance. But we kind 3:01:38.240 --> 3:01:41.360 of talked about it earlier. Those defensive linemen were not 3:01:41.520 --> 3:01:44.520 necessarily the top of the cream of the crop. It 3:01:44.640 --> 3:01:48.039 was the American Athletic Conference. It was guys like Ladarius 3:01:48.080 --> 3:01:50.160 Hamilton from You and T and then also you you 3:01:50.480 --> 3:01:53.240 throw in maybe Oklahoma there as well. So I'm not 3:01:54.040 --> 3:01:56.560 surprised that he fell, but I'm surprised he fell this 3:01:56.720 --> 3:02:00.160 far is kind of where I met Greed. Yeah, and 3:02:00.480 --> 3:02:02.720 I mentioned how you watch his tape and it was 3:02:02.760 --> 3:02:05.000 hard to get too excited about the competition he was 3:02:05.080 --> 3:02:07.640 going up against. That was my biggest issue with him. 3:02:07.720 --> 3:02:10.840 But in past protection, he just didn't get beat very often. 3:02:10.959 --> 3:02:13.920 And so you see light feet, you see the ability 3:02:14.080 --> 3:02:18.280 to mirror in space. Not a bully, not a guy 3:02:18.360 --> 3:02:20.840 that's going to overwhelm at the point of attack, but 3:02:21.160 --> 3:02:25.520 just a solid player who surprised in his tackle starved league. 3:02:25.760 --> 3:02:27.920 Surprised he would last this long into the third, But 3:02:28.200 --> 3:02:31.560 look at the Cardinals get Isaiah Simmons in the first 3:02:31.600 --> 3:02:34.120 and then they don't pick again until a third. They 3:02:34.200 --> 3:02:36.280 had to feel pretty good about landing Josh Jones at 3:02:36.320 --> 3:02:39.120 this point. I actually, I think on Thursday night day 3:02:39.120 --> 3:02:41.080 and I said, how can you go away from a 3:02:41.160 --> 3:02:43.600 tackle if you don't pick until the third count? Twell, 3:02:44.160 --> 3:02:46.959 it worked out for him. This guy's a really good athlete, though, 3:02:47.080 --> 3:02:48.600 I mean, I was just going through my notes and 3:02:48.720 --> 3:02:52.160 how he plays with range. He gets the second level easy. 3:02:52.400 --> 3:02:56.000 I mean, the contact balance was good. I mean, I 3:02:56.400 --> 3:03:00.520 was just I thought that the athletic ability allowed him 3:03:00.560 --> 3:03:04.360 to overcome any technical issues that he might have, you know, 3:03:04.600 --> 3:03:06.600 So I was I was impressed by this Scott. I 3:03:06.640 --> 3:03:08.720 thought maybe he'd get a little top heavy at times, 3:03:09.240 --> 3:03:12.200 but I mean he gets away with it just because 3:03:12.200 --> 3:03:15.160 of how good of an athlete he is. So now 3:03:15.240 --> 3:03:18.680 we're at seventy three with the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're within 3:03:18.879 --> 3:03:23.800 ten picks of the Dallas Cowboys and trying to whittle 3:03:23.920 --> 3:03:27.040 these names down and see if we can't hone in 3:03:27.160 --> 3:03:29.280 on a couple of guys that would make sense for them. 3:03:29.400 --> 3:03:32.480 So I'm gonna start throwing out the names again. Zach Bonn, 3:03:34.000 --> 3:03:37.040 that's the big one. Is that name still getting closer? 3:03:37.440 --> 3:03:42.840 Zach Bonn, A Keem Davis Gaither, MALIEK. Harrison. Those are 3:03:42.920 --> 3:03:47.280 my top three linebackers remaining. Terrell Burgess at safety out 3:03:47.360 --> 3:03:50.960 of Utah, Jordan Elliott at de tackle out of Missouri, 3:03:51.800 --> 3:03:55.720 Terrell Lewis pass rusher from Bama, Curtis Weaver pass rusher 3:03:55.800 --> 3:04:01.240 from Boise, and then I guess in Neville Gallimore, the 3:04:01.320 --> 3:04:05.600 Oklahoma defensive tackle. I've got Harrison Bryant, the tight end 3:04:05.720 --> 3:04:08.320 going around this area. I'm a big fan of his 3:04:08.879 --> 3:04:11.600 and Cushionberry. That's the names I would throw out there 3:04:12.680 --> 3:04:15.600 when I add anything to the pile. I'm still working 3:04:15.640 --> 3:04:18.680 off my top fifty one I've got. As I look 3:04:18.720 --> 3:04:20.880 at my number, Zach Bond would be at twenty seven, 3:04:21.520 --> 3:04:24.520 I'm Ben, and then Cameron Danzler would be at forty four. 3:04:25.040 --> 3:04:29.080 Jabari Zagina would be at forty five, and then a 3:04:29.240 --> 3:04:31.680 Keem gather Davis would be at forty nine, and in 3:04:31.760 --> 3:04:34.840 Matt Hennessee at fifty. So that's kind of where I'm at. 3:04:34.920 --> 3:04:38.040 That's a center, a defensive end. Two linebackers on a 3:04:38.160 --> 3:04:41.800 corner is what I'm looking at off my top fifty one. Okay, guys, 3:04:41.800 --> 3:04:44.200 I want to play Devil's advocate here for a split second. 3:04:44.920 --> 3:04:49.880 What about quarterback? Second or third round? I know there's 3:04:49.920 --> 3:04:52.320 plenty of names here. I would personally not even touch it. 3:04:52.480 --> 3:04:57.520 Here's my theory on backup quarterback. If you're firing off 3:04:57.680 --> 3:05:00.240 one of your fifth round picks, because is if he 3:05:00.320 --> 3:05:02.160 played a couple of games and played well or looked 3:05:02.200 --> 3:05:04.640 good in preseason, maybe you could flip that later for 3:05:04.720 --> 3:05:08.400 a two or three suite. But if you're picking him 3:05:08.440 --> 3:05:11.880 in the third round, especially with names there, can you 3:05:12.400 --> 3:05:16.400 really build that guy's stock. He's probably not gonna play. 3:05:17.320 --> 3:05:20.360 But even if he did, are you really gonna up 3:05:20.640 --> 3:05:23.160 what that value from a third round pick in a 3:05:23.320 --> 3:05:25.760 game or two or in some preseason games. I get 3:05:25.800 --> 3:05:28.520 it with a five or a six, But with a three, 3:05:28.920 --> 3:05:31.000 what if not unless I'm thinking I'm picking a guy 3:05:31.040 --> 3:05:32.960 who might start Let me ask you this, just in 3:05:33.040 --> 3:05:35.640 a thought about the quarterback. What if you did take 3:05:35.680 --> 3:05:38.960 a guy like from and and he's like a career 3:05:39.080 --> 3:05:42.480 backup guy, you know, like DA's Dak gets signed, but 3:05:42.680 --> 3:05:46.000 you have a good, stable backup guy that's not gonna 3:05:46.080 --> 3:05:50.040 cause problems and stuff like that. You know, does that 3:05:50.160 --> 3:05:58.880 make sense? No? D You know? I mean, okay, who's like, 3:05:59.080 --> 3:06:01.680 who's the best? Is your Is your quarterback signed long 3:06:01.800 --> 3:06:04.720 term right now? David? No, he's not. Okay, then then 3:06:04.920 --> 3:06:08.240 you should be really quiet right now because why because 3:06:08.640 --> 3:06:12.560 because he under contract? He is he is he under 3:06:12.600 --> 3:06:17.560 club control. Okay, he's under you want do you want 3:06:17.560 --> 3:06:19.760 to continue to go down the path of every year 3:06:19.879 --> 3:06:22.080 having a franchise tag the guy? No, I want to 3:06:22.240 --> 3:06:27.360 sign him? Okay, as he signed. No, why is he 3:06:27.480 --> 3:06:30.080 not signed? Why is he not signed? The because money 3:06:30.240 --> 3:06:33.600 is a b. It's not money, Dave. It's years. It's 3:06:33.680 --> 3:06:36.000 four years or five years, is what it is. And 3:06:36.080 --> 3:06:39.720 you're not willing to to to and and what Jake 3:06:39.840 --> 3:06:41.960 from is going to be your leverage to fix this 3:06:42.120 --> 3:06:44.760 magical situation. I am just saying though that if you, 3:06:44.920 --> 3:06:46.720 if you thought enough of the guy to do that 3:06:46.800 --> 3:06:49.560 as a starting quarterback, if this guy, if this guy 3:06:49.600 --> 3:06:51.720 didn't sign with you, I don't think you could discount 3:06:51.840 --> 3:06:54.600 now me personally, I would go out and sign that. 3:06:54.800 --> 3:06:56.520 I'd go out and signed the kid it was at Tampa, 3:06:56.879 --> 3:06:59.400 you know, or or that that's who I would go sign. Yeah, 3:06:59.480 --> 3:07:01.240 I would go sign jameis Wits. If you want to 3:07:01.240 --> 3:07:02.800 play and still out there, Yeah, if you want to 3:07:02.800 --> 3:07:05.360 play a round with me at quarterback, that's fine. You know, 3:07:05.440 --> 3:07:06.960 if you want to hold me up and you know 3:07:07.080 --> 3:07:09.760 I'm trying to make you a decent offer. Okay. Who 3:07:09.840 --> 3:07:12.680 are like? Who are like the best career backups in 3:07:12.760 --> 3:07:15.760 the NFL over the last like decade or or or 3:07:16.000 --> 3:07:18.800 maybe more. Culton McCoy keeps hanging around, didn't he? Yeah? 3:07:20.640 --> 3:07:25.840 Nick Foles, I had Super Bowl. Well what did another 3:07:25.920 --> 3:07:29.879 team in the NFC East do in the second round? Yeah, 3:07:29.920 --> 3:07:33.000 their guy can't stay on the field. Well, our guy 3:07:33.160 --> 3:07:36.240 never leaves the field. I'm just saying. I also doesn't 3:07:36.280 --> 3:07:39.560 have a contract though, Yeah, exactly, he does have a contract. 3:07:39.680 --> 3:07:43.040 He has a one year contract. No, not kind of, 3:07:43.160 --> 3:07:45.960 he's under club control. I understand he'll play for the Cowboy. 3:07:46.840 --> 3:07:49.000 You know, Okay, it's not Jake fromp But I'm just 3:07:49.120 --> 3:07:53.520 saying you, no, I'm just saying that even worse. No, No, 3:07:53.680 --> 3:07:56.040 I'm just saying if you, if you don't look at 3:07:56.080 --> 3:08:00.280 your quarterback situation, then you've got your head in the sand. Miss. 3:08:00.560 --> 3:08:03.480 They absolutely should draft a guy. They should do it 3:08:03.600 --> 3:08:06.120 with one of the last Let's take again who I 3:08:06.240 --> 3:08:08.680 was really wrong about? Yeah, so what it didn't work out? 3:08:08.800 --> 3:08:11.400 It's it's low risk. What's what like? What's what are 3:08:11.400 --> 3:08:14.840 you gonna get from Jake? From what is realistically gonna happen. 3:08:14.959 --> 3:08:18.560 You will not get a lot of picks, Like, you 3:08:18.680 --> 3:08:20.280 won't get a lot of picks for him, or he 3:08:20.320 --> 3:08:21.800 won't throw a lot of picks. He won't throw a 3:08:21.840 --> 3:08:23.720 lot of picks. It's the best I got on from 3:08:24.520 --> 3:08:26.000 He will not throw a lot of a lot of 3:08:26.080 --> 3:08:28.920 games the SEC. He'll be responsible with the football. You 3:08:29.000 --> 3:08:32.720 have a twenty six year old quarterback who has very 3:08:32.959 --> 3:08:35.560 rarely Basically the last month of last season was the 3:08:35.640 --> 3:08:39.280 only time he's ever shown wear and tearror. Jacksonville pick 3:08:39.640 --> 3:08:41.879 is in Dave, and then I want you and Brian 3:08:41.920 --> 3:08:44.400 to keep fighting because I love it. Here's the seventy 3:08:44.480 --> 3:08:48.440 third pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The Jacksonville 3:08:48.480 --> 3:08:54.760 Jaguars select the Von Hamilton. Those tackle Ohio State. Okay, 3:08:54.879 --> 3:08:57.240 there you go, defensive linemen off the board that you 3:08:57.320 --> 3:08:59.880 could have seen the Cowboys being interested in Guy to 3:09:00.200 --> 3:09:02.560 play the one technique for you, a little bit of 3:09:02.640 --> 3:09:04.600 a run stuffer who you hope can offer a little 3:09:04.600 --> 3:09:07.480 bit more than that. He wouldn't have been exciting for 3:09:07.560 --> 3:09:11.600 me though at eighty two though, no Neile Okay, already 3:09:11.640 --> 3:09:14.560 get excited. Boy nose tackles. But Von Hamilton one of 3:09:14.600 --> 3:09:17.760 the most improved players this year. He was a priority 3:09:17.840 --> 3:09:20.920 free agent for scouts over the summer, but he turned 3:09:20.920 --> 3:09:23.400 it on as a senior kind of really things clicked 3:09:23.440 --> 3:09:27.560 for him. You saw him dominate Guy. It's different centers 3:09:27.560 --> 3:09:30.280 start the league throughout the big ten, and he did 3:09:30.320 --> 3:09:32.800 a nice job and turn himself into a third round pick. 3:09:32.959 --> 3:09:35.800 So the Von Hamilton going in front of guys like luck, 3:09:35.800 --> 3:09:41.080 he foted to Jordan Elliott Neville Gallimore. So a nice 3:09:41.200 --> 3:09:44.360 job by him to put himself in this position. Zach 3:09:44.440 --> 3:09:47.720 Bonn still on the board. That's act. Before we got 3:09:47.800 --> 3:09:49.960 derailed with the quarterback talk, I was actually I mean, 3:09:50.200 --> 3:09:53.760 I'm the guy that loves to say good luck finding 3:09:53.840 --> 3:09:56.400 pass rush help outside the top fifty like it just 3:09:56.840 --> 3:09:59.880 it doesn't have a great track record. But I'm sitting here, 3:10:00.080 --> 3:10:03.200 eighty two are close to eighty two getting there, and 3:10:03.840 --> 3:10:07.879 I feel very encouraged about what you might be able 3:10:07.920 --> 3:10:10.040 to get to help your pass rush. Oh yeah, I 3:10:10.120 --> 3:10:13.039 mean Bond. But I would also throw in Terrell Lewis 3:10:13.160 --> 3:10:16.879 and Curtis Weaver. I think that there's I think there's 3:10:16.879 --> 3:10:18.440 a few guys maybe they could do it. Here's the 3:10:18.480 --> 3:10:22.360 Saints pick, the New Orleans Saints with the seventy fourth 3:10:22.400 --> 3:10:25.720 pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The New Orleans 3:10:25.760 --> 3:10:31.280 Saints like Zach Bond, but what is this? Sean Payton 3:10:31.360 --> 3:10:33.240 and Mickey Loomis, what are you guys doing? It's a 3:10:33.440 --> 3:10:36.400 terrible pick. The Saints did this last year with Eric McCoy. 3:10:36.560 --> 3:10:39.279 They did this last year with the Chauncey Gardner Johnson. 3:10:39.680 --> 3:10:43.280 The Saints really do a nice job with you know, 3:10:43.360 --> 3:10:45.240 they don't have a ton of draft picks, but when 3:10:45.280 --> 3:10:48.040 they see a player fall, they just seem to go 3:10:48.120 --> 3:10:49.800 get him or be in a position to get him. 3:10:49.840 --> 3:10:52.879 So this is a player that if we saw him 3:10:52.959 --> 3:10:55.400 go in the first round at number twenty four, I 3:10:55.440 --> 3:10:57.960 don't think any of us would have batten nigh. Yeah, 3:10:58.160 --> 3:11:00.400 And I think it's something that the cow Boys are 3:11:00.480 --> 3:11:04.480 really famous for doing with guys like Ceedee Lamb. So 3:11:04.560 --> 3:11:06.080 let the guy fall to you and go ahead and 3:11:06.120 --> 3:11:09.240 take the good players. So we're gonna lose Zach Bond 3:11:09.480 --> 3:11:13.360 and we're gonna have to reshuffle here, and yeah, that's 3:11:13.400 --> 3:11:16.880 messed up. And Kyle, I pretty much blame you. Thanks. Uh. 3:11:17.040 --> 3:11:18.720 You seem to be like the guy who was pulling 3:11:18.760 --> 3:11:20.760 for it the whole time I was pulling for I 3:11:20.840 --> 3:11:22.879 just didn't expect him to go all the way down. Well, 3:11:23.000 --> 3:11:25.600 Dave and Brian were fighting seventy five, you were texting 3:11:25.680 --> 3:11:28.600 people to take Zach Bonn, and that messed up. I 3:11:28.760 --> 3:11:31.560 was hitting up my sources in the New Orleans Saints 3:11:31.640 --> 3:11:33.680 to get it done. I know you were. Dave's got 3:11:33.720 --> 3:11:36.040 sources too. He probably gave you people to talk to 3:11:36.200 --> 3:11:38.800 the Cowboys, and I've got sources in the Saints. Well, 3:11:38.879 --> 3:11:42.080 I really like Zach Bond. I think, um, what's your 3:11:42.160 --> 3:11:45.720 play here now? What? Like? What is what's there for you? Now? Burgess, 3:11:46.480 --> 3:11:48.959 Terrell Burgess is there for you? A Keem Davis Gaither, 3:11:49.480 --> 3:11:53.760 Curtis Weaver, Terrell Lewis, Cushion, Barry Jordan Elli picks ahead 3:11:53.760 --> 3:11:57.640 of the Cowboys the Raiders. They pick at eighty and 3:11:57.760 --> 3:12:00.840 eighty one. Tarrell Burgess seems like I'm like Mayok type 3:12:00.879 --> 3:12:08.680 of player. Hey, Dane, Hey, this is what we need 3:12:08.720 --> 3:12:11.360 to do. You need to look at realistic possibilities here. 3:12:11.640 --> 3:12:15.000 And I think those are two landmines sitting Grudon as 3:12:15.040 --> 3:12:17.440 we speak. Do it? Tell him you heard some really 3:12:17.480 --> 3:12:21.960 bad stuff? Actually do this? Yeah, called Grudon up. I 3:12:22.040 --> 3:12:24.400 bet Dane could too. He might have to back channel it. 3:12:24.440 --> 3:12:26.160 I bet Dane could find his way to Grudon if 3:12:26.200 --> 3:12:31.080 he needed to. Maybe not him, but maybe a general manager. Okay, yeah, exactly, 3:12:32.000 --> 3:12:34.160 you know. Okay, Well, a position we haven't talked about. 3:12:34.200 --> 3:12:36.760 What about one of these tight ends. What about when 3:12:36.800 --> 3:12:41.800 he's tight? We know they like the UCLA kid. Yeah, 3:12:41.840 --> 3:12:44.800 and I know Dane really liked Troutman from Dayton was 3:12:44.840 --> 3:12:47.720 a guy and je Harrison Bryant has Harrison Bryan is 3:12:47.720 --> 3:12:51.680 a guy. Yeah under Bryan as well from Washington. A 3:12:51.680 --> 3:12:54.640 little bit of a different mindset with him though than 3:12:54.720 --> 3:12:58.360 maybe Blake Jarwin and Blake Bell. Well they can't well 3:12:58.440 --> 3:13:01.240 Blake Bell can block, but Darwin can't box, Drolin can't. 3:13:01.280 --> 3:13:03.920 So they'd be fine right along the same lines. Yeah, 3:13:04.040 --> 3:13:06.760 they can teach each other. It'd be great. Detroit Lions 3:13:06.760 --> 3:13:09.000 are on the clock at seventy five. Go ahead, Brian, 3:13:09.360 --> 3:13:11.720 Now I was just looking. Is there anything, is any 3:13:11.800 --> 3:13:17.840 reason why traded the seventy fifth pick the Detroit Lions. 3:13:18.840 --> 3:13:21.720 With the seventy fifth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 3:13:22.400 --> 3:13:28.640 the Detroit Lions select Jonah Jackson guard Ohio State. Dane 3:13:28.680 --> 3:13:33.640 Bruler scouting report Jonah Jackson another phone booth blocker, a 3:13:33.720 --> 3:13:35.280 guy that's not going to give you a ton of 3:13:35.480 --> 3:13:40.400 range athletic ability, but if you get in his square, 3:13:40.800 --> 3:13:42.840 he is going to get his hands on you and 3:13:43.000 --> 3:13:46.800 dominate you. He was a big part of stabilizing that 3:13:46.879 --> 3:13:49.240 Ohio State offensive line this year. He was a grad 3:13:49.320 --> 3:13:52.680 transfer coming in from Rutgers and one left guard spot 3:13:52.840 --> 3:13:55.840 and was a big reason why JK. Dobbins and Justin 3:13:55.959 --> 3:14:00.160 Fields had so much success. So seeing him go US 3:14:00.200 --> 3:14:02.360 early here in the third round not not that big 3:14:02.360 --> 3:14:05.480 of a surprise. And now we have the Tampa Bay 3:14:05.480 --> 3:14:07.920 Buccaneers on the clock. Their pick is in. We'll get 3:14:08.000 --> 3:14:10.480 that pick and we'll continue to work our way towards 3:14:10.640 --> 3:14:13.040 number eighty two for the Dallas Cowboys. You're listening to 3:14:13.120 --> 3:14:15.600 the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three 3:14:15.640 --> 3:14:20.880 the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. All right, here 3:14:20.920 --> 3:14:24.320 we are on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and we've still 3:14:24.400 --> 3:14:26.200 got a little bit of a ways to go, but 3:14:26.280 --> 3:14:28.520 we're starting to get into that range of starting to 3:14:29.000 --> 3:14:31.680 fill out exactly what that board is going to look 3:14:31.760 --> 3:14:36.200 like when it comes to the Cowboys picking at eighty two. 3:14:36.640 --> 3:14:40.240 CD lamb Treyvon Diggs both already selections for the Dallas 3:14:40.320 --> 3:14:43.879 Cowboys and Brian. I know there's a lot of defensive 3:14:43.920 --> 3:14:46.320 players on the board here still, but we were just 3:14:46.400 --> 3:14:48.959 talking about some of the tight ends. Is there any 3:14:49.080 --> 3:14:51.440 chance you go offense and I'm not just talking about 3:14:51.480 --> 3:14:54.640 skill positions, but even interior offensive line here with maybe 3:14:54.800 --> 3:14:57.320 a cushion Berry on the board. Yeah, you know, Jeff 3:14:57.360 --> 3:14:59.360 and I've always in our show, it always has these 3:14:59.400 --> 3:15:02.000 discussions about cushion Berry Hennessy. I mean, I've got him 3:15:02.000 --> 3:15:04.400 in the same round, so I mean, but I have Hennessy. 3:15:04.480 --> 3:15:07.280 Their tags are touching just above him here. The Buccaneers 3:15:07.320 --> 3:15:08.840 are about to make their pick. Let me just get 3:15:08.879 --> 3:15:11.440 it for you here. But yeah, to finish up, I 3:15:11.840 --> 3:15:14.320 just think the athletic billy of Hennessy at Temples a 3:15:14.360 --> 3:15:17.360 little bit better than Kushion Berry, powerful guy Cushion Berry 3:15:17.360 --> 3:15:19.680 at LSU. But I just feel like they're gonna give 3:15:19.760 --> 3:15:23.200 their guy an opportunity. They drafted, you know, it's a 3:15:24.040 --> 3:15:28.880 Shawn Vaughan, the running back from Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt. Yes, because 3:15:28.920 --> 3:15:32.680 Sean Vaughan, running back Vanderbilt, just got selected by the 3:15:33.160 --> 3:15:36.520 Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Dane. That's an intriguing pick from 3:15:36.600 --> 3:15:39.640 twenty eighteen in my mind, But twenty nineteen it was 3:15:39.800 --> 3:15:43.400 not a great year for him overall and all of Vanderbilt. 3:15:43.640 --> 3:15:48.280 There Kalija Lipscomb, the receiver, Jared Pinkney, the tight end. 3:15:48.360 --> 3:15:51.200 None of those guys really stood out. But Vaughan had 3:15:51.200 --> 3:15:53.440 a lot of fans coming into the year, and just 3:15:54.040 --> 3:15:57.359 a lot of them still stayed on that Vaughan vandwagon. 3:15:57.400 --> 3:16:00.400 Apparently the Bucks liked them. Surprise, he went here at 3:16:00.440 --> 3:16:02.760 seventy six over some of these other running backs. But 3:16:03.160 --> 3:16:06.120 he's a good player. He can run inside, run outside, 3:16:06.200 --> 3:16:09.680 He's got some production in the passing game. There's a 3:16:09.760 --> 3:16:11.480 lot to like about him, even though he didn't have 3:16:11.560 --> 3:16:13.879 the greatest year. Well, Dany, let me ask you this though, Moss. 3:16:14.200 --> 3:16:15.480 You know, I mean, he was a guy that a 3:16:15.520 --> 3:16:18.520 lot of people had. The Utah Kid had hints. Yeah, 3:16:18.760 --> 3:16:21.640 So the medicals what's killing him right now? I probably 3:16:21.800 --> 3:16:24.040 because he's banged up with the knee. I mean he 3:16:24.160 --> 3:16:27.520 was getting shots into his shoulder down the stretch. Okay, 3:16:28.000 --> 3:16:30.120 I think. I mean he's a better running back, we 3:16:30.160 --> 3:16:33.160 can agree there. But the medicals I think are probably 3:16:33.200 --> 3:16:35.680 the problem with him. Well, now running back seems to 3:16:35.720 --> 3:16:38.560 get a little bit thinner. I mean, Zach Boss, you know, Benjamin, 3:16:38.640 --> 3:16:41.520 These aren't necessarily guys that the Cowboys would be interested in. 3:16:41.720 --> 3:16:44.200 But if you're looking for teams to maybe take some 3:16:44.280 --> 3:16:46.360 of those guys ahead of you to to maybe sure 3:16:46.520 --> 3:16:49.560 up your defensive talent that's on the board that's starting 3:16:49.600 --> 3:16:54.360 to get a little bit thinner than we originally saw. Yeah, 3:16:54.560 --> 3:16:57.680 surprised by von this high though, guys, Yeah, I am too, 3:16:57.840 --> 3:17:01.360 especially because again I didn't have the on Moss and 3:17:01.520 --> 3:17:03.840 being with the you know, the shots and stuff like that. 3:17:04.000 --> 3:17:05.720 So he's going to be a guy that you know 3:17:05.800 --> 3:17:07.560 you have in the third round there and then he 3:17:07.840 --> 3:17:10.000 didn't get taken and you're like, okay, what happened? And 3:17:10.120 --> 3:17:12.800 you ask people around and it's what is exactly what 3:17:12.959 --> 3:17:15.080 Dank just told you. Yeah? Those just eat you up, 3:17:15.120 --> 3:17:18.080 don't they? Brian? Oh heck yeah they do. Absolutely they do. 3:17:18.240 --> 3:17:21.400 Can't wait till about tomorrow at about one thirty when 3:17:21.600 --> 3:17:24.680 you've just got a blinking red guy who's been there 3:17:24.800 --> 3:17:27.360 for for a round and a half. We've done this 3:17:27.480 --> 3:17:30.840 draft together now a long time and it happens every year. Yeah, 3:17:30.879 --> 3:17:32.960 we're wondering why, Okay, what's wrong? It's always got a 3:17:33.000 --> 3:17:36.160 heart condition. But you know what, you're like, I love you. 3:17:36.400 --> 3:17:38.400 You're still so invested in it that you take it 3:17:38.520 --> 3:17:40.720 that personally, and that's what makes you the goat I 3:17:41.600 --> 3:17:44.160 think this is a good conversation to have because with 3:17:44.440 --> 3:17:48.040 pro days and with some of those medical rechecks being rescheduled, Yeah, 3:17:48.280 --> 3:17:50.440 we might not know about it. As media members, we 3:17:50.520 --> 3:17:54.680 don't have that inside that normally scouting departments would maybe 3:17:54.879 --> 3:17:57.400 allow us to see. Maybe even the scouting departments don't know, 3:17:57.560 --> 3:18:00.680 is what. That's a great point, Kyle, because they didn't 3:18:00.720 --> 3:18:03.480 have in the first weekend of April. They didn't have 3:18:03.920 --> 3:18:06.400 those medical rechecks, and a lot of those guys that 3:18:06.720 --> 3:18:09.480 had problems at the combine never got looked at again. 3:18:09.640 --> 3:18:12.480 And so you know, those those trainers and doctors did 3:18:12.480 --> 3:18:15.680 a good job, but probably you know, exchanging information what 3:18:15.800 --> 3:18:17.760 they had on these guys. But unless you went to 3:18:17.840 --> 3:18:20.600 the combine, you know, they don't they'll probably have all 3:18:20.640 --> 3:18:23.720 that all that to work up on you. Twenty twenty 3:18:23.920 --> 3:18:27.560 NFL Draft continued on one o five three The Fan 3:18:27.879 --> 3:18:33.080 and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. All Right, welcome back, Jeff Kavanaugh, 3:18:33.160 --> 3:18:37.080 Brian brought us, Dane Brugler, Kyle Yeoman's and Dave Hellman 3:18:37.200 --> 3:18:39.040 here with you. One oh five three The Fan and 3:18:39.360 --> 3:18:43.040 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Denver Broncos are on the clock, 3:18:43.120 --> 3:18:46.200 and the pick is in we'll get the Bronchos pick 3:18:46.400 --> 3:18:50.240 shortly at seventy seven. The Cowboys pick at eighty two, 3:18:50.840 --> 3:18:53.600 and we are keeping a sharp eye on a small 3:18:53.760 --> 3:18:57.680 handful of names to see if certain guys can get 3:18:57.760 --> 3:19:00.560 down there for the Dallas Cowboys and if they'll take 3:19:00.640 --> 3:19:02.680 the guys that we keep talking about. But I keep 3:19:02.720 --> 3:19:05.560 going back to Dane's mock draft. This morning, I took 3:19:05.600 --> 3:19:07.920 the lazy route of just running one of the simulators 3:19:08.040 --> 3:19:10.760 and then making a pick, and both came up with 3:19:10.840 --> 3:19:13.000 the same names. He just worked a lot harder for it, 3:19:13.120 --> 3:19:16.280 and you could read his work. Terrell Burgess is the 3:19:16.360 --> 3:19:18.560 name that I'm keeping an eye on the Utah Safety. 3:19:18.959 --> 3:19:20.520 I think that would be a great fit for what 3:19:20.640 --> 3:19:23.760 the Cowboys need and for picking a guy that's somewhere 3:19:23.840 --> 3:19:26.440 up there towards the top of your board. Terrell Burgess 3:19:26.520 --> 3:19:29.039 is the name I'm keeping an eye on, but he's 3:19:29.040 --> 3:19:31.400 not the only one. There's a handful of other names 3:19:32.240 --> 3:19:34.800 to be looking for at positions that could really help 3:19:34.879 --> 3:19:36.879 the Cowboys. And do we need to start thinking about 3:19:36.920 --> 3:19:39.600 would they take a center we had we heard the 3:19:39.680 --> 3:19:42.600 name Ruiz, I haven't really heard the name Cushionberry with 3:19:42.760 --> 3:19:45.560 them I mean, I've got him graded here. But I've 3:19:45.680 --> 3:19:49.200 heard rumor of Hennessey. I have heard that that's a 3:19:49.240 --> 3:19:52.520 guy that they like. I don't know how him. Yeah, 3:19:52.560 --> 3:19:55.440 I've never had Kyle. You're talking about drinking right that too, 3:19:55.640 --> 3:20:00.800 But I'm talking about you know, I that would Miller light. 3:20:00.840 --> 3:20:02.880 Of course. I wonder if they would go center or 3:20:02.920 --> 3:20:05.760 they do the tighten because we've heard a lot about Assisi, 3:20:05.920 --> 3:20:09.520 Devin ASIASI from But but there's people also that will 3:20:09.560 --> 3:20:12.400 tell you that there's Dane. Correct me if you've heard 3:20:12.480 --> 3:20:16.320 this too, that like the football. There's some football character 3:20:16.440 --> 3:20:20.879 issues with this guy. Have you heard anything? Yeah? Does 3:20:20.920 --> 3:20:24.080 he really love football? Kind of a thing? Right Well, 3:20:24.200 --> 3:20:26.520 he went to Michigan and then had transfer back. He 3:20:26.640 --> 3:20:30.040 suspended a few games early on for UCLA. So there 3:20:30.120 --> 3:20:32.680 are a few questions there, no doubt in terms of 3:20:33.320 --> 3:20:37.200 uh putting in the work, maximizing his ability. Um, you know, 3:20:37.320 --> 3:20:40.480 not the most physically impressive guy, both you know, body 3:20:40.560 --> 3:20:43.680 wise and UH testing wise. You feel like he has 3:20:43.800 --> 3:20:47.160 the skills to be a solid player. He might not 3:20:47.240 --> 3:20:49.279 be a great route runner, might not be a great blocker, 3:20:49.640 --> 3:20:53.360 but he's good in both are Let's go the Commissioners draft, 3:20:54.080 --> 3:21:00.720 the Denver Broncos select Michael O. J. Moodia, defensive back Iowa. 3:21:01.040 --> 3:21:03.280 Oh that's actually a guy that I kind of liked 3:21:03.360 --> 3:21:05.480 out of Iowa. He's one of those guys that I think, 3:21:05.879 --> 3:21:08.600 even as just a you know, six one two hundred 3:21:08.640 --> 3:21:11.080 pound and look at the athleticism, I kind of viewed 3:21:11.160 --> 3:21:13.920 him as a little bit more of a developmental guy. 3:21:14.080 --> 3:21:16.080 But here we are, I guess in the seventies, and 3:21:16.160 --> 3:21:18.240 that might make a little bit of sense. Did you 3:21:18.280 --> 3:21:19.960 see him better than that day? And I saw a 3:21:20.000 --> 3:21:22.560 guy that I really liked the traits. I don't know 3:21:22.680 --> 3:21:24.760 that the player as somebody i'd want to throw onto 3:21:24.840 --> 3:21:27.240 my NFL field at the moment. It's a good way 3:21:27.240 --> 3:21:29.119 to sum him up, was Yeah, he's six one, two 3:21:29.200 --> 3:21:31.280 hundred pounds and when he ran the four four five 3:21:31.360 --> 3:21:33.320 at the combine, I think he kind of knew, Okay, 3:21:33.879 --> 3:21:35.720 he's going to go somewhere high. I gave him a 3:21:35.720 --> 3:21:39.280 fourth round grade because I tape was probably fifth round, 3:21:39.320 --> 3:21:41.480 and then after his testing. Okay, i'm u put him 3:21:41.480 --> 3:21:44.200 in the fourth because of the traits. But yeah, this 3:21:44.280 --> 3:21:46.520 is a guy who gets out leveraged a little too easily. 3:21:47.560 --> 3:21:50.840 You know you like the physicality, but when he got beat, 3:21:51.120 --> 3:21:53.440 he struggled to recover. He just doesn't have that twitch 3:21:53.520 --> 3:21:56.560 to him. But he's smart, he's physical. You like the length, 3:21:56.760 --> 3:21:59.680 So understand why the Broncos will go this direction at 3:21:59.680 --> 3:22:03.360 this point. And that'll take us to the Atlanta Falcons 3:22:03.440 --> 3:22:06.320 at number seventy eight. As we're getting closer and closer 3:22:06.440 --> 3:22:10.800 to number eighty two for the Dallas Cowboys, the Atlanta Falcons, 3:22:11.200 --> 3:22:13.320 let me see if I can get their draft so 3:22:13.520 --> 3:22:15.840 far pulled up here, which is going to take me 3:22:15.920 --> 3:22:18.800 a second. Well, while you do that, I don't want 3:22:18.920 --> 3:22:22.560 Kyle to be the only bummer here, So all right, 3:22:23.120 --> 3:22:25.360 I'm doing. I just want to take you through my 3:22:25.440 --> 3:22:29.000 thought process because I liked to Rrel Burgess too. I 3:22:29.120 --> 3:22:32.160 think I in my final mock for Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 3:22:32.240 --> 3:22:33.880 I think he was my pick at eighty two, so 3:22:33.959 --> 3:22:37.520 I'd be thrilled with it. But one, can you trust 3:22:37.600 --> 3:22:41.240 him to survive these next few picks? And two I 3:22:41.440 --> 3:22:43.840 just can't help but look at this list of available 3:22:43.879 --> 3:22:47.800 defensive linemen, and we know they went best player available 3:22:47.879 --> 3:22:52.200 last night, but we also know they don't really value 3:22:52.200 --> 3:22:54.200 safety that much. That's never been a thing that they do, 3:22:54.480 --> 3:22:57.400 and for all I know, they might just be sitting 3:22:57.440 --> 3:22:59.800 in there like, well, yeah, we have Haha and Woods 3:23:00.000 --> 3:23:02.560 and we can just sign guys next year. This is fine. 3:23:03.080 --> 3:23:06.600 And I look at I look at Neville Gallimore and 3:23:06.680 --> 3:23:10.640 Jordan Elliott sitting there. I look at Terrell Lewis sitting there, 3:23:10.720 --> 3:23:14.000 which is Curtis Weaver. I mean, I'm gonna throw in 3:23:14.120 --> 3:23:18.280 Zuniga as well, and that is a healthy list of 3:23:18.480 --> 3:23:22.760 names that are probably more talented than I expected to 3:23:22.920 --> 3:23:25.800 be here at eighty two. And so that's just where 3:23:25.879 --> 3:23:29.640 my radar is right now. But James lyn yeah, I'd 3:23:29.680 --> 3:23:31.680 throw him in there too. Well. I know people are 3:23:31.720 --> 3:23:34.119 talking about him playing more of as a three technique. 3:23:34.160 --> 3:23:35.880 I don't know where to play it. Here's a commissioner 3:23:35.879 --> 3:23:40.080 at the podium now or his beyond, to take care 3:23:40.080 --> 3:23:45.760 of our most vulnerable. You have our full support, and 3:23:45.920 --> 3:23:48.680 that with the seventy eighth pick in the twenty twenty 3:23:49.360 --> 3:23:55.160 NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Matt Hennessey Center Temple. 3:23:55.640 --> 3:23:57.480 There you go, now, Brian, I know you are a 3:23:57.600 --> 3:23:59.600 big fan of Hennessy. I believe he was your top 3:23:59.680 --> 3:24:01.200 center on the board. So you want to hit us 3:24:01.200 --> 3:24:03.320 with the Matt Hennessey scouting report that he center for 3:24:03.400 --> 3:24:05.520 the Falcon. I will do my very best here with 3:24:05.680 --> 3:24:08.200 Matt Hennessey here if I can get to it. Uh 3:24:08.360 --> 3:24:11.680 you know, I'm technologically struggling at times. Uh yeah, this 3:24:11.800 --> 3:24:15.000 with Hennessy. He's an undersized guy, but he's got really 3:24:15.040 --> 3:24:17.960 good movement. He's not the strongest guy, you know, but 3:24:18.080 --> 3:24:21.119 he plays with really good foot quickness and positioning. He's 3:24:21.200 --> 3:24:23.280 kind of a getting away blocker, but he'll use his 3:24:23.400 --> 3:24:25.879 feet to stay in position with his man. His contact 3:24:25.959 --> 3:24:28.360 balance I thought was good. He's not going to drive 3:24:28.400 --> 3:24:30.080 anybody off the ball. If you look at what the 3:24:30.160 --> 3:24:33.480 Falcons do scheme wise, that outside zone stuff like that. 3:24:33.680 --> 3:24:35.920 I mean he's he's going to be very very capable 3:24:36.200 --> 3:24:38.880 for doing this. He'll slide across, he'll pick up rushers. 3:24:39.360 --> 3:24:41.920 Uh you know, I don't know if he'll function really 3:24:41.959 --> 3:24:44.840 well with a heavy man on his nose. But the scoop, 3:24:45.000 --> 3:24:48.240 the reach, all those stuff, anything you have to do athletically, 3:24:48.800 --> 3:24:51.880 he can. He can handle that stuff. Well. He's another 3:24:51.959 --> 3:24:55.240 guy also that shined on film against lesser competition. He's 3:24:55.280 --> 3:24:57.080 got a brother that that played for Duke for a 3:24:57.160 --> 3:24:59.800 little bit, and he's got that family pedigree, but I 3:25:00.200 --> 3:25:01.600 I liked him a lot up at the top. I 3:25:01.640 --> 3:25:03.600 wrote an article a couple of weeks ago when Travis 3:25:03.640 --> 3:25:06.880 Frederick retired saying, here's five guys in the draft that 3:25:06.920 --> 3:25:09.160 could replace Travis Frederick, and I had him as one 3:25:09.200 --> 3:25:11.360 of the top guys out of those five that could 3:25:11.360 --> 3:25:13.760 potentially come in and do the job. So the fact 3:25:13.800 --> 3:25:15.560 that he's off the board here makes me kind of 3:25:16.320 --> 3:25:19.400 a little sad because maybe at least that option wasn't 3:25:19.440 --> 3:25:21.120 there at eighty two. Not that I would have really 3:25:21.200 --> 3:25:23.840 wanted him to go with an interior offensive lineman at 3:25:23.879 --> 3:25:25.560 eighty two, but at least he would have been on 3:25:25.600 --> 3:25:28.080 the board when that pick came around. So we're on 3:25:28.160 --> 3:25:31.280 the Jets at seventy nine so far in this draft, 3:25:31.320 --> 3:25:34.240 and their pick is in. We're just waiting for the commissioner. 3:25:34.360 --> 3:25:36.240 But so far in the draft, the Jets have gone 3:25:36.320 --> 3:25:41.400 McKay Beckton Louisville offensive tackle, Denzel Mims, bay lloroid receiver 3:25:41.520 --> 3:25:44.120 in the second, and Ashton Davis, the safety out of 3:25:44.200 --> 3:25:47.440 Cow in the third. This is their second third round pick, 3:25:47.560 --> 3:25:50.600 and they have a third third round pick later in 3:25:50.680 --> 3:25:55.800 the round. Needs for the Jets. They haven't taken a 3:25:55.879 --> 3:25:59.920 cornerback yet, they haven't taken a linebacker yet, they haven't 3:26:00.080 --> 3:26:04.360 taking an offensive wineman Yette. They have addressed the wide receiver, 3:26:04.600 --> 3:26:07.400 maybe a running back. They could go all over the 3:26:07.480 --> 3:26:09.800 place with the New York Jets. Here at pick number 3:26:09.840 --> 3:26:13.000 seventy nine, Dane, have you reset your big board recently 3:26:13.160 --> 3:26:15.400 or your your top one hundred players? Who are the 3:26:15.480 --> 3:26:18.240 top guys? Yeah, let's see. You have guy Lloyd Cushionberry 3:26:18.280 --> 3:26:21.240 I think is the top guy. Yep, he's the top available. 3:26:21.400 --> 3:26:24.800 Trell Lewis is next. Although Lewis it's all medical with him, 3:26:25.240 --> 3:26:27.400 some teams just removing them from the board because of 3:26:27.440 --> 3:26:30.960 his knee. That could be something that uh, you know, 3:26:31.360 --> 3:26:34.040 he could fall into Day three. That's very possible. Could 3:26:34.120 --> 3:26:38.240 be this year's Josh Sweat that type of player. So 3:26:38.400 --> 3:26:41.560 a Keem Davis Davis Gaither linebacker at of app State 3:26:41.640 --> 3:26:44.400 would be next. Then Adam Troutman the tight end out 3:26:44.440 --> 3:26:48.360 of Dayton, Curtis Weaver pass rusher at a Boise State, 3:26:48.520 --> 3:26:51.600 and then George Elliott defensive tackle out of Missouri. So 3:26:52.120 --> 3:26:56.080 still some big name players with talent that are available 3:26:56.160 --> 3:27:00.640 as we get within four picks of Dallas and some 3:27:00.760 --> 3:27:04.440 of those names. Yeah, it sounds like either they would 3:27:04.480 --> 3:27:07.080 be or we just hope they would be interested in. 3:27:07.200 --> 3:27:08.560 As you go through a few of those names, it 3:27:08.640 --> 3:27:10.720 seems like a fit for the Cowboys in terms of 3:27:11.720 --> 3:27:16.080 pass rushers, maybe the linebackers, although maybe that was just 3:27:16.240 --> 3:27:18.360 them doing the due diligence on the guys that we're 3:27:18.360 --> 3:27:19.880 going to go in the first round in case they 3:27:19.959 --> 3:27:23.240 moved around or they got stuck. Or do we think 3:27:23.360 --> 3:27:25.680 they're a team that seems like they enjoy picking mid 3:27:25.800 --> 3:27:29.720 round linebackers pretty much every year, Dave, What do we 3:27:30.000 --> 3:27:32.880 think or know about their interest in linebacker? Could have 3:27:33.040 --> 3:27:35.040 just been those top guys as a just in case, 3:27:35.720 --> 3:27:38.400 or do we pay attention to them all the way through? Yeah, 3:27:38.560 --> 3:27:42.200 that's a I mean me personally, I've always targeted Day 3:27:42.280 --> 3:27:45.480 three for a linebacker, but I would be lying if 3:27:45.600 --> 3:27:49.360 I've heard a lot of specific names, either Kenneth Murray 3:27:49.440 --> 3:27:52.520 and Patrick Queen or the two that we really heard linked, 3:27:54.400 --> 3:27:57.280 you know for monement, Like I'm very intrigued by Marcus 3:27:57.360 --> 3:27:59.760 Bailey out of Purdue. I don't know if the Cowboys 3:27:59.800 --> 3:28:02.400 are h Jacob Phillips out of LSU I think is 3:28:02.440 --> 3:28:05.760 a really underrated player. But I haven't heard any of 3:28:05.840 --> 3:28:09.960 them linked to the Cowboys. Um, so that's that's gonna 3:28:10.000 --> 3:28:11.600 be something to watch. I just I think it makes 3:28:11.640 --> 3:28:14.119 too much sense. Maybe with one of those fifth round picks, 3:28:14.920 --> 3:28:17.760 UH to draft some depth at that position. But like 3:28:17.840 --> 3:28:20.520 I said, I haven't heard any name beyond those first rounds. 3:28:20.520 --> 3:28:22.959 I'll tell you what that app State kid Davis Gaither 3:28:23.120 --> 3:28:25.840 can play. I mean you you watch him and you're 3:28:25.879 --> 3:28:29.680 and I know will probably won't take but that state 3:28:29.680 --> 3:28:31.720 should count. They play the big boys and give him trust. 3:28:31.760 --> 3:28:33.480 I'm saying every year, you don't want to schedule him 3:28:33.520 --> 3:28:35.480 early in the year because they'll take you down. They'll 3:28:35.520 --> 3:28:38.080 take a check, he'll beat you. Yeah, exactly, But I 3:28:38.400 --> 3:28:46.720 just watching him. Go Dave draft the New York Jets 3:28:46.720 --> 3:28:53.440 select Jabari Zuniga, defensive end Florida. All right, Brian, guy, 3:28:53.560 --> 3:28:55.040 you want to hit us with the scouting report on 3:28:55.080 --> 3:28:57.800 your guy before Dave attacks app State, hit him, reason, 3:28:58.120 --> 3:29:00.600 hit him real quick. I'm doing some paperwork, okay, Dane, 3:29:00.600 --> 3:29:03.800 go ahead and hit us with Jabari Zuniga. Zuniga's a 3:29:03.840 --> 3:29:06.480 face up pass rusher. He's not going to bend the 3:29:06.640 --> 3:29:09.280 edge or you know, win with just pure speed. He's 3:29:09.280 --> 3:29:12.480 gonna go right at you, use his length and try 3:29:12.520 --> 3:29:15.520 to bully you, try to overpower you. He was very 3:29:15.560 --> 3:29:18.200 productive as a junior, then missed a big chunk of 3:29:18.240 --> 3:29:20.800 the senior year due to injury, but still a very 3:29:20.879 --> 3:29:23.040 good player who I think tested a lot better. And 3:29:23.120 --> 3:29:25.840 we thought two hundred sixty five pounds and he ran 3:29:25.920 --> 3:29:29.040 in the mid four sixes, and so the testing numbers 3:29:29.080 --> 3:29:31.920 were there, the tape was there. Just a quality passed 3:29:32.000 --> 3:29:34.640 rusher reminds me a lot of you know, the Jets 3:29:34.760 --> 3:29:38.200 drafted Jordan Jenkins out of Georgia a couple of years ago. 3:29:38.360 --> 3:29:40.040 Similar type of player here at this point in the 3:29:40.120 --> 3:29:42.640 third round. Yeah, I mean, right now, they're showing the highlights. 3:29:42.800 --> 3:29:44.560 One of the games I watched and it was Miami, 3:29:44.720 --> 3:29:46.960 and he the game. He killed the game at the end, 3:29:47.360 --> 3:29:49.560 the pressure that he was able to make a couple 3:29:49.600 --> 3:29:52.200 of different times. I think Dane's got him absolutely right. 3:29:52.800 --> 3:29:55.480 The type of player. I did see a little bit 3:29:55.560 --> 3:29:58.320 more quickness with him. He's got some traits that are 3:29:58.400 --> 3:30:00.080 that will impress you, but you know, he could be 3:30:00.200 --> 3:30:03.080 really inconsistent at times. You know, there's quickness and then 3:30:03.080 --> 3:30:04.880 there's snaps where he's laid off the ball, and then 3:30:05.160 --> 3:30:07.360 like a time about the Miami game. Uh. You know, 3:30:07.520 --> 3:30:09.480 I was a lot higher on him because I did 3:30:10.000 --> 3:30:13.200 those traits flashed at me and I'm thinking, Okay, find 3:30:13.400 --> 3:30:15.600 a guy that's got some traits, find some guy that 3:30:15.640 --> 3:30:18.240 can maybe capture that edge. I probably had him way 3:30:18.280 --> 3:30:20.280 too high to where I got him, but I'm glad 3:30:20.320 --> 3:30:22.840 he finally got picked here by the New York Jets. 3:30:23.320 --> 3:30:26.200 I wonder I think he would have been in pretty 3:30:26.240 --> 3:30:29.960 serious consideration if he had lasted another couple picks. We'll 3:30:30.000 --> 3:30:33.480 never know now, but that's what I think. Vegas defensive 3:30:33.520 --> 3:30:37.920 line in general has him or has defensive line need 3:30:37.959 --> 3:30:39.640 at least at eighty two. So I think you could 3:30:39.640 --> 3:30:42.240 still throw maybe a Curtis Weaver or Jordan Elliott in there. 3:30:42.560 --> 3:30:45.720 Sure Vegas was going double pick here, and I hope 3:30:45.760 --> 3:30:47.840 when they announced the first one they just announced them 3:30:47.920 --> 3:30:51.200 both got two picks. Don't you know them both? No, 3:30:51.360 --> 3:30:53.800 they never do that. This isn't This isn't the first 3:30:53.840 --> 3:30:56.120 time we've had back to back picks. This is this 3:30:56.240 --> 3:30:59.840 is the two land mines that I mentioned before. Dane, 3:31:00.200 --> 3:31:02.560 just tell us, what are you doing Dane. Dane knows 3:31:04.120 --> 3:31:06.640 this morning. No, I just look when you think about 3:31:06.760 --> 3:31:08.880 Mike Mayock and what he's looking for, John Brud, what 3:31:08.959 --> 3:31:11.760 he's looking for. Troll Burgess is a player where they 3:31:11.879 --> 3:31:14.560 just the coaches that Utah won't shut up about him. 3:31:15.000 --> 3:31:17.680 Kyle Willingham, Kyle Winningham was a pro coach for a 3:31:17.720 --> 3:31:21.600 long time. Yeah, the defensive coordinator Skali mean, they talk 3:31:21.640 --> 3:31:24.200 about him as you know, he's he's one of their 3:31:24.280 --> 3:31:29.400 sons and so big special teams guy, versatile. Uh So, 3:31:29.520 --> 3:31:32.280 there's a lot of the picks in right now. Let's 3:31:32.280 --> 3:31:36.240 go to Namily joins me and offering our condolences as 3:31:36.280 --> 3:31:39.560 we join you tonight in honoring Rico's memory by making 3:31:39.680 --> 3:31:44.040 this next pick in his honor. With the eightieth pick 3:31:44.520 --> 3:31:48.440 in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders 3:31:48.680 --> 3:31:54.800 select Lynn Bowden hon Kentucky the other picking a quarterback here, 3:31:54.879 --> 3:31:57.200 how but they're listening to him as a wide receiver. 3:31:57.400 --> 3:32:03.000 That's interesting? Why huh? Yeah? Lynn Lynn Bowden junior, Holy cow, 3:32:03.400 --> 3:32:07.680 what a fun all purpose player. I need to give 3:32:07.680 --> 3:32:10.480 a shout out to my brother Seth, who went to 3:32:10.520 --> 3:32:13.119 actually went to high school with Lynn Bowden. Here in Warren, 3:32:13.160 --> 3:32:15.560 Ohio and told me about him five six years ago, 3:32:15.640 --> 3:32:17.640 how good this guy was, and so cut them on 3:32:17.720 --> 3:32:19.880 my radar, and man, he was right. This is a 3:32:20.000 --> 3:32:22.800 good player. Just is he gonna running back? Is he receiver? 3:32:23.080 --> 3:32:25.080 Just just get the ball in his hands. He's got 3:32:25.120 --> 3:32:27.560 some lower body power to him. He can make guys miss. 3:32:28.240 --> 3:32:30.360 A lot to like about Lynn Bowden and what he 3:32:30.400 --> 3:32:32.120 can bring to your offense. Well, and he's also a 3:32:32.200 --> 3:32:34.760 return threat. I mean one of those videos that kind 3:32:34.800 --> 3:32:37.360 of surfaced again this past week was a return that 3:32:37.480 --> 3:32:39.240 he had or it wasn't even a return. He was 3:32:39.320 --> 3:32:42.080 the punter on special teams because of course the guy 3:32:42.120 --> 3:32:44.400 plays every position out there, and then he took it 3:32:44.480 --> 3:32:46.240 one hundred and eight yards to the house after a 3:32:46.280 --> 3:32:48.840 fumbled snap because he just looked like a man playing 3:32:48.840 --> 3:32:53.080 amongst boys. So that continued into college. Even at the 3:32:53.240 --> 3:32:56.840 SEC level. He was all of Kentucky's offense. He's over 3:32:56.920 --> 3:32:59.000 the course over the course of the season, he is 3:32:59.040 --> 3:33:03.600 He's one of the most everybody in the Everybody in 3:33:03.680 --> 3:33:07.360 the SEC knew that he was limited as a passer 3:33:07.480 --> 3:33:09.920 and that they were just gonna run a run based offense, 3:33:10.000 --> 3:33:13.440 and nobody could do anything with him. Anyway, they averaged 3:33:13.480 --> 3:33:16.160 like one hundred and seventy eight rushing yards per game 3:33:16.800 --> 3:33:20.160 with a wide receiver playing quarterback. I actually I talked 3:33:20.160 --> 3:33:23.600 to Randall Cobb in the Cowboys locker room about Bowden 3:33:23.840 --> 3:33:27.440 during the season, and Cobb obviously went to Kentucky and 3:33:27.520 --> 3:33:29.880 he's like, he's the best Kentucky player in history. And 3:33:30.000 --> 3:33:32.160 I was like, whoa, dude, you realize you went there too, 3:33:32.240 --> 3:33:34.280 And he was like, yeah, I said what I said? Wow, 3:33:34.720 --> 3:33:38.240 So that's pretty high praise. Yeah. I think the world 3:33:38.320 --> 3:33:40.080 of him. I can't wait to watch him in the NFL. 3:33:40.920 --> 3:33:45.720 All right, Vegas has made one of their picks, but I, oh, 3:33:45.840 --> 3:33:49.840 you well, we're talking about him. Holy cow. Hey, guys, 3:33:50.360 --> 3:33:53.040 have I told you thought something the show? I told 3:33:53.080 --> 3:33:56.320 you guys something. I'm super excited about us, Jeff. Join 3:33:56.440 --> 3:33:59.080 us in the Dallas Cowboys Draft Day Virtual five k 3:33:59.600 --> 3:34:02.200 presented by Baylor's Scott and White Health and give back 3:34:02.240 --> 3:34:04.920 to those on the front line on Saturday, April twenty fifth, 3:34:05.040 --> 3:34:08.680 runner walk from your home hashtag to the front line 3:34:08.720 --> 3:34:13.039 and celebration of Draft weekend. Registration is free. Register online 3:34:13.080 --> 3:34:17.280 today at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Draft live. I 3:34:17.400 --> 3:34:19.240 was just excited about telling you guys that wanted you 3:34:19.280 --> 3:34:21.640 to know. Why did you let us know? Yeah, I 3:34:22.000 --> 3:34:23.760 thought that that was something you guys would want to know. 3:34:23.800 --> 3:34:26.160 I also wonder if you would want to hear what 3:34:26.280 --> 3:34:28.720 Roger Goodell says for their second pick to the Bigot. 3:34:30.280 --> 3:34:33.720 With the eighty first pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 3:34:34.480 --> 3:34:40.080 Las Vegas Raiders select Brian Edwards, wide receiver South Carolina. 3:34:40.640 --> 3:34:45.600 Much like Screw could not help himself. Much like South 3:34:45.680 --> 3:34:49.160 Carolina's core receiver in the draft last year, get that 3:34:49.280 --> 3:34:51.760 dude the ball and see who he runs over. Brian 3:34:51.920 --> 3:34:55.120 Edwards is a tough, tough dude once he has the 3:34:55.160 --> 3:34:57.080 ball in his hands. So they just remade their whole 3:34:57.120 --> 3:35:00.920 receiver corps in two days. Yes, they did three rugs, 3:35:01.160 --> 3:35:05.080 Lynn Bawd and Brian Edwards. That is fun. Who's the 3:35:05.160 --> 3:35:09.000 course of thretty good players? Derek carr Well Cowboys are 3:35:09.080 --> 3:35:11.400 on the clock at number car Gonna throw it down 3:35:11.480 --> 3:35:13.600 field of these guys or how's that going to work? Oh? 3:35:13.640 --> 3:35:15.520 They just know you had to run after. They just 3:35:15.600 --> 3:35:18.000 run after. Yeah, run us lant route over the middle. 3:35:18.160 --> 3:35:21.800 The Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. Officially at eighty 3:35:21.879 --> 3:35:24.520 two right now and the pick is in. By the way, 3:35:24.640 --> 3:35:27.080 it didn't take them long. But we'll look at the 3:35:27.160 --> 3:35:31.000 options until we actually get the announcement. My best guys 3:35:31.320 --> 3:35:34.480 Terrell Burgess, Utah safety, the Keem Davis s gather App 3:35:34.560 --> 3:35:37.920 State linebacker, Jordan Elliott, the d tackle out of Missouri, 3:35:38.600 --> 3:35:42.480 Terrell Lewis at Alabama, the pass rusher, and Curtis Weaver 3:35:42.640 --> 3:35:46.800 the pass rusher at Boise, along with Lloyd Cushionberry at center, 3:35:47.560 --> 3:35:50.760 maybe Cameron Danceler and Meek Robertson at corner. But those 3:35:50.800 --> 3:35:53.840 are the names that I've got. I think the defensive 3:35:53.920 --> 3:35:57.440 tackle here we didn't mention Gallimore was a guy to 3:35:57.640 --> 3:35:59.920 the Oklahoma kid. I love his effort. By the way, 3:36:00.000 --> 3:36:01.400 I may have a couple of times with the ball 3:36:01.480 --> 3:36:03.120 broke and he was able to go make that play. 3:36:03.440 --> 3:36:05.160 So where would you play? I mean, he's a three technique. 3:36:05.160 --> 3:36:06.880 I think Gallimore is a three technique to me. I 3:36:06.920 --> 3:36:09.119 just I saw him get pushed around on tape, which 3:36:09.160 --> 3:36:11.040 I didn't love. But you did see a lot of 3:36:11.080 --> 3:36:13.840 snaps where you're like, oh, there's there's some initial quickness 3:36:13.920 --> 3:36:16.080 here that maybe wasn't measured at the combine, but there's 3:36:16.080 --> 3:36:19.039 some initial quickness here to beat blockers early. How about 3:36:19.080 --> 3:36:24.279 the pairing between what could be Gallimore and then Gerald McCoy, 3:36:24.800 --> 3:36:29.240 two Oklahoma products on that defensive line. You throw Don 3:36:29.320 --> 3:36:31.360 Torri Poe in there as well, that would be fun 3:36:31.440 --> 3:36:33.320 to me. Honestly, I was still kind of looking at 3:36:33.400 --> 3:36:35.800 the secondary. But now that you've kind of brought up Gallimore, 3:36:36.400 --> 3:36:38.760 I like that idea. The fact that he's even here. 3:36:39.200 --> 3:36:41.840 It's I mean, I would prefer an edge rusher, but 3:36:42.560 --> 3:36:44.760 you know, those options kind of got taken away from you. 3:36:44.920 --> 3:36:48.000 And I mean, you would you be comfortable with Weaver here? 3:36:48.040 --> 3:36:52.039 I don't think so. Me personally, I don't really like Weaver. 3:36:52.280 --> 3:36:54.600 I wasn't. I went and spent some more time with 3:36:54.720 --> 3:36:57.879 him earlier this week, and I just didn't see anything 3:36:57.959 --> 3:37:00.440 that translated to what I think the Cowboy want to do. 3:37:00.760 --> 3:37:09.920 The NFL Draft to Dallas Cowboys select Neville Gallimore, defensive tackle, Oklahoma. Okay, 3:37:10.080 --> 3:37:12.560 there's a guy we're talking about, Neville Gallimore. Guy. You 3:37:12.600 --> 3:37:15.640 see him with the initial quickness winning early in the 3:37:16.080 --> 3:37:18.480 in the plays, as a guy that's able to penetrate 3:37:18.520 --> 3:37:20.840 as a pass rusher and kind of shoot gaps in 3:37:20.879 --> 3:37:23.200 the run game. I had questions about his power and 3:37:23.280 --> 3:37:25.360 his ability to anchor. What do you guys see on 3:37:25.480 --> 3:37:28.840 the scouting report for Neville Gallimore. I saw a player 3:37:28.920 --> 3:37:31.680 who he would get to the backfield, but then he 3:37:31.720 --> 3:37:35.880 wouldn't finish. I think he has some uh some struggles 3:37:36.000 --> 3:37:41.640 to really uh turn make hard directions in small areas. 3:37:42.240 --> 3:37:44.800 Love the quickness, I just wish he was a better finisher. 3:37:45.160 --> 3:37:47.440 And you know, we don't like the harp too much 3:37:47.480 --> 3:37:49.840 on the production, but this is for a guy with 3:37:49.959 --> 3:37:52.160 these types of traits. I wanted to see more than 3:37:52.240 --> 3:37:54.720 eight and a half career sacks, you know, and I 3:37:54.840 --> 3:37:58.080 don't again, I trust the tape every single time, but 3:37:58.360 --> 3:38:01.560 production matters, and he just didn't have the backfield production. 3:38:02.000 --> 3:38:05.480 From a guy that's nicknamed the Canadian Bulldozer, you just 3:38:05.640 --> 3:38:09.000 expected a little bit more. But he is a very 3:38:09.200 --> 3:38:12.119 toolsy player. You love the effort, you love the quickness. 3:38:12.480 --> 3:38:14.760 So I think his best football is ahead of him, 3:38:14.879 --> 3:38:17.560 and so just hopefully this coaching staff can get it 3:38:17.600 --> 3:38:20.160 out of him. Yeah, I think Dane's got him dead 3:38:20.240 --> 3:38:23.280 on and the ability. I thought the pressive thing about 3:38:23.360 --> 3:38:26.520 him was his ability to get play with range to 3:38:26.680 --> 3:38:29.160 get to the outside, you know, chase the ball, all 3:38:29.200 --> 3:38:31.320 those kinds of things. But he's a guy that when 3:38:31.320 --> 3:38:34.560 you watch you play, he doesn't stop. Everything is fast, 3:38:34.680 --> 3:38:36.800 it's quick, keeps going. He tries to do his best. 3:38:37.080 --> 3:38:39.840 But Dane's right about the finish there too. Ceedee Lamb 3:38:39.920 --> 3:38:44.560 in the first round, Neville Gallimore now in the third round, 3:38:44.640 --> 3:38:46.880 and Trey Von Diggs in the second round for the 3:38:46.959 --> 3:38:50.360 Dallas Cowboys so far. 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Here in 3:39:28.360 --> 3:39:33.560 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Neville Gallamore, Oklahoma defensive tackle guys. 3:39:33.600 --> 3:39:36.240 Are we happy overall with this? I know with a fit, yeah, 3:39:36.280 --> 3:39:38.440 and it makes a lot of sense. This is another 3:39:38.520 --> 3:39:41.720 solid pick. Are they three for three? Though? I will 3:39:41.840 --> 3:39:45.240 say no, because for me, he wouldn't have been one 3:39:45.280 --> 3:39:47.280 of the top I haven't graded as a third round player, 3:39:47.280 --> 3:39:49.800 and they picked him in the third round, so that's fine. 3:39:50.000 --> 3:39:53.560 But one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I had 3:39:53.680 --> 3:39:55.920 seven or so guys ahead of him, but that's still 3:39:56.080 --> 3:39:58.640 towards the top of my board, So I won't kill 3:39:58.760 --> 3:40:00.920 him for it. But I some guys that I liked 3:40:00.959 --> 3:40:03.440 better than him. They like college players that wear crimson 3:40:03.520 --> 3:40:05.320 and white, at least in the course of this draft 3:40:05.440 --> 3:40:09.520 right now, because the two Oklahoma guys in an Alabama cornerback. 3:40:09.640 --> 3:40:12.320 So one of the things at least that I had 3:40:12.600 --> 3:40:14.280 written down on my film study of him is that 3:40:14.360 --> 3:40:15.880 he didn't have as much bend as I kind of 3:40:15.920 --> 3:40:18.320 wanted to. And you could see that at least in 3:40:18.440 --> 3:40:22.600 the combine drills where the change of the direction was 3:40:23.000 --> 3:40:25.360 a little bit stagnant. Is that something that you would 3:40:25.360 --> 3:40:28.160 be worried about here, because, like Brian was talking about, 3:40:28.200 --> 3:40:30.560 he's a sidelines the sideline kind of guy. I don't 3:40:30.560 --> 3:40:33.320 know if that's a whole lot of a worry as 3:40:33.400 --> 3:40:36.560 long as he's got some got some lateral and some 3:40:36.680 --> 3:40:39.160 athleticism too. I think Dane's kind it perfect though that 3:40:39.280 --> 3:40:41.200 the finish is the thing you worry about if you're 3:40:41.280 --> 3:40:43.280 if you're going to get in position and play with 3:40:43.360 --> 3:40:45.560 the range and things like that. I think he'd have 3:40:45.560 --> 3:40:47.800 been if if he was a better finisher he had 3:40:47.920 --> 3:40:50.440 have he'd be a second round guy. He wouldn't be 3:40:50.520 --> 3:40:52.320 in the third round. I think there's people that have 3:40:52.440 --> 3:40:55.680 a lot of questions. I know I have questions about him. Uh, 3:40:56.400 --> 3:40:58.280 you know that would be like to finish, you know, 3:40:58.320 --> 3:41:01.280 if you get in position, make it happens. There's times 3:41:01.320 --> 3:41:03.200 where guys get away from him and stuff like that, 3:41:03.360 --> 3:41:05.600 and I think that's a little bit disappointing for him. 3:41:06.200 --> 3:41:07.840 I did like his forty though. He ran a four 3:41:08.000 --> 3:41:10.760 seven nine. A big guy like that, you shouldn't be 3:41:10.879 --> 3:41:13.480 running a four seven nine of the combine six two 3:41:13.640 --> 3:41:15.920 three oh four. You could see that on his film 3:41:16.000 --> 3:41:19.320 as well. Man there was one play in in his 3:41:19.440 --> 3:41:22.920 Big twelve championship game against Baylor that stuck out to me. 3:41:23.120 --> 3:41:27.000 Dan Well that three combe though seven nine to seven. Yeah, 3:41:27.480 --> 3:41:31.200 that's abysmal and so you do that speaks to the 3:41:31.879 --> 3:41:34.640 you know, lack of change of direction, skills, the inability 3:41:34.680 --> 3:41:36.880 to finish in tight areas. That's kind of what you 3:41:36.959 --> 3:41:38.840 worry about with them. And again, for a player with 3:41:39.440 --> 3:41:42.200 all that ability, you just you wanted to see better production. 3:41:42.320 --> 3:41:45.840 But I think context is important here. Oklahoma would line 3:41:45.879 --> 3:41:48.720 him up, head up over the center. Yeah, those tackle 3:41:49.360 --> 3:41:51.440 You know, he wasn't asked to just let loose and 3:41:52.000 --> 3:41:54.160 win as a three technique in a lot of situations. 3:41:54.240 --> 3:41:57.160 So I think if he is in the right situation, 3:41:57.360 --> 3:42:00.600 that that is something that could really help him. And 3:42:00.920 --> 3:42:03.320 what does this say about Triston Hill and his how 3:42:03.360 --> 3:42:06.800 he fits with moving forward? Nobody here's got loyalty left 3:42:06.840 --> 3:42:08.520 to him, right, Yeah, I mean you got a new coach, 3:42:09.200 --> 3:42:11.080 you got a new coaching staff. They don't have any 3:42:11.160 --> 3:42:14.880 loyalty to the to the previous right guys, let me 3:42:15.320 --> 3:42:18.800 Dane before we bury Tristan Hill. Let me ask you 3:42:18.959 --> 3:42:21.120 this though, I because I am I mean, I don't 3:42:21.160 --> 3:42:23.280 dislike the pick at all. I'm you know, he's not 3:42:23.959 --> 3:42:26.119 one of my favorite players, but if fits a need, 3:42:26.200 --> 3:42:28.600 I think you know, it fits the draft slot. I 3:42:28.879 --> 3:42:32.560 don't dislike it by any means, but knowing what we know, 3:42:33.840 --> 3:42:37.120 you know, Mike Nolan, it seems like they're going to 3:42:37.200 --> 3:42:39.640 be a little multiple. They could, you know, mess with 3:42:39.720 --> 3:42:41.880 their front a little bit. They've got Poe and McCoy 3:42:41.959 --> 3:42:44.600 who can play in both fronts, who also are going 3:42:44.680 --> 3:42:48.840 to start. So there's no starting spot for Neville Gallimore. 3:42:49.560 --> 3:42:53.200 What what does his rookie season look like? Is this 3:42:53.360 --> 3:42:56.040 just a rotational guy? Does he have the flex to 3:42:56.720 --> 3:42:59.200 play a variety of different positions? Can he play three 3:42:59.320 --> 3:43:02.120 and one? Could he maybe do some three four defensive 3:43:02.200 --> 3:43:03.879 end if they wanted him to? What do you think? 3:43:04.959 --> 3:43:07.600 I think you go to training camp and say you've 3:43:07.680 --> 3:43:09.440 got a chance to win a job here, let's see 3:43:09.440 --> 3:43:11.480 what you can do. And because I think he does 3:43:11.560 --> 3:43:13.840 have the ability uh to do that. He was a 3:43:13.840 --> 3:43:17.039 four year starter at Oklahoma. He's played a lot of football. Uh. 3:43:17.360 --> 3:43:20.400 Can he be the guy that steps up and wins 3:43:20.440 --> 3:43:22.280 a job? I think he can. He just needs to 3:43:22.360 --> 3:43:25.760 be more consistent. Uh. And the thing that really helps him, 3:43:25.879 --> 3:43:27.680 that will really go a long way with his coaching 3:43:27.720 --> 3:43:34.800 staff is the effort. Who Texas Tech game, Oh my gosh, effort, play, 3:43:34.840 --> 3:43:37.760 absolute effort, play after effort, play and he's affecting the 3:43:37.879 --> 3:43:40.279 game with his hustle, and that's something that the coaches 3:43:40.280 --> 3:43:43.400 will love. Is this the first Senior Bowl guy that 3:43:43.480 --> 3:43:46.920 we've seen for the Cowboys? Because I don't believe was 3:43:49.040 --> 3:43:51.120 the Senior Bowl. I didn't think so. So this is 3:43:51.120 --> 3:43:54.400 the first Senior Bowl selection. It's actually that the Cowboys 3:43:54.400 --> 3:43:56.360 have made. I love the way the draft brings this 3:43:56.440 --> 3:43:59.920 full circle because Neville Gallimore and Justin Matta Bouquet were 3:44:00.160 --> 3:44:03.800 We're probably the first two guys that we were really on. Yeah, 3:44:03.840 --> 3:44:05.880 you're exactly right, all the way back to the Senior 3:44:05.959 --> 3:44:09.600 Bowl and low and behold. I mean Gallimore was one 3:44:09.640 --> 3:44:11.280 of our first names, and here he is on the 3:44:11.360 --> 3:44:13.760 team three months later. I'm pulling up my notes on 3:44:13.920 --> 3:44:16.040 what I actually had on him at the Senior Bowl. 3:44:16.080 --> 3:44:18.120 I'll give you that whenever we get back here on 3:44:18.200 --> 3:44:22.360 the Fan. Then twenty twenty NFL Draft continued on one 3:44:22.400 --> 3:44:26.000 O five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 3:44:26.440 --> 3:44:29.360 Welcome back. It's the twenty twenty NFL Draft. Here on 3:44:29.400 --> 3:44:32.520 one oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 3:44:32.680 --> 3:44:35.760 It is Jeff Kavan O'Brien brought us Dane Brugler, Dave Hellman, 3:44:35.840 --> 3:44:41.200 and Kyle Yeoman's the Cowboys most likely done for the night, 3:44:41.360 --> 3:44:43.480 but they have made their third round pick. It's Neville 3:44:43.560 --> 3:44:47.680 Gallimore out of Oklahoma. And I think, all in all, 3:44:48.080 --> 3:44:50.120 when you are looking at what they've done so far 3:44:50.200 --> 3:44:55.640 in this draft, if I ask Brian or Dane, have 3:44:56.040 --> 3:44:59.280 all three of their picks been ranked higher for you 3:44:59.440 --> 3:45:02.240 as a play then the number they were picked at. 3:45:02.440 --> 3:45:05.680 Does Nevil Gallimore fall into that? Absolutely? Neville Gallimore was 3:45:05.800 --> 3:45:07.879 seventy for me and they get him at what eighty one? 3:45:08.000 --> 3:45:11.840 So I think, you know, Ceedee Lamb was seven on 3:45:11.959 --> 3:45:14.960 my board, get him at seventeen. Trayvone Diggs was I 3:45:15.040 --> 3:45:19.120 believe like around thirty three. They get him at fifty one. 3:45:19.280 --> 3:45:22.640 So yeah, I mean, just my opinion my board, the 3:45:22.760 --> 3:45:27.600 Cowboys did really nice with their value here. Yeah, Canadian 3:45:27.640 --> 3:45:29.560 product by the way, on the team, along with LP 3:45:29.800 --> 3:45:32.640 and Tyrone Crawford. We got to pick in from the 3:45:32.680 --> 3:45:37.320 commissioner here for the Rams. Los Angeles Ram select Terrell Lewis, 3:45:38.320 --> 3:45:41.240 linebacker Alabama. Oh. It's one of the few guys that 3:45:41.360 --> 3:45:43.480 I think I would have preferred the pick to be. Like, 3:45:43.600 --> 3:45:46.160 I won't be hard on the Cowboys here because I 3:45:46.240 --> 3:45:49.080 think I had six guys that I liked more than 3:45:49.800 --> 3:45:53.080 Neville Gallimore at that spot, and you know, that's pretty 3:45:53.160 --> 3:45:56.360 darn close to the top. So they've picked probably they 3:45:56.480 --> 3:45:58.240 might have picked their very top guy on the board 3:45:58.560 --> 3:46:00.560 multiple times in this draft, and they might have got 3:46:00.640 --> 3:46:03.040 close to it on the third one. I think I 3:46:03.160 --> 3:46:05.800 think Gallimore might have been the top grade on their board. 3:46:06.160 --> 3:46:09.520 And I mean, obviously you can differ, there's nothing wrong 3:46:09.560 --> 3:46:11.240 with that, but in their minds, I think they got 3:46:11.280 --> 3:46:14.360 their best guy, and that's you know, Burgess, I God, 3:46:14.440 --> 3:46:16.520 I want the Cowboys to draft a safety so bad. 3:46:16.680 --> 3:46:19.000 I think I think everybody knows that about me. But 3:46:20.160 --> 3:46:23.400 I can't kill them for not drafting a guy with 3:46:23.560 --> 3:46:26.480 chronic injury issues. I think that's that's the most terrifying 3:46:26.680 --> 3:46:29.560 kind of player is and that's not his fault. I'm 3:46:29.560 --> 3:46:32.840 not trying to knock Terrell Lewis, but that stuff scares 3:46:32.879 --> 3:46:36.400 the crap out of me, and I feel more comfortable 3:46:36.440 --> 3:46:38.760 with the sure thing in terms of availability. Nine times 3:46:38.800 --> 3:46:42.160 out of ten. Well, now you've got corner taken care of, 3:46:42.560 --> 3:46:46.199 you've got wide receiver, and you've got interior defensive line. 3:46:46.240 --> 3:46:49.160 That leaves edge in safety is really the pressing needs 3:46:49.240 --> 3:46:51.760 going into Day three. I think you've done yourself a favor, 3:46:52.280 --> 3:46:55.320 even with even with the first pick being Cede Lamb. 3:46:55.360 --> 3:46:57.560 I know Cede Lamb was an exciting pick, but it 3:46:57.720 --> 3:47:01.360 wasn't necessarily that that pressing that you have. Now you 3:47:01.600 --> 3:47:03.640 you move into Day three and you can still maybe 3:47:03.680 --> 3:47:06.080 go get a linebacker, you can still grab a safety. 3:47:06.160 --> 3:47:08.520 You can look at edge rusher and still feel good 3:47:08.560 --> 3:47:12.040 about what you've done in the draft. Oh, I think 3:47:12.160 --> 3:47:14.920 this this draft is shaping up really well. I mean 3:47:15.840 --> 3:47:18.879 there's no like this is. This is looking really good. 3:47:19.000 --> 3:47:21.440 Even if you don't love the Gallimore pick, I mean, Kavanaugh, 3:47:21.480 --> 3:47:23.480 even you agree with that, right, No, no, no, I do, 3:47:23.640 --> 3:47:24.920 And I'd like, I don't even want to take it. 3:47:25.480 --> 3:47:27.560 Oh No, you had six guys in front of him. Like, 3:47:27.640 --> 3:47:29.600 that's not a pick that I'm going to complain about. 3:47:29.600 --> 3:47:32.240 You've got a defensive tackle that's got the initial quickness, 3:47:32.280 --> 3:47:34.920 that has the traits to rush the quarterback. I'm not 3:47:35.040 --> 3:47:37.480 mad at that pick at all. It's just the first 3:47:37.520 --> 3:47:41.160 pick they've made where they literally didn't pick the top guy. Yeah, 3:47:41.200 --> 3:47:44.640 according to me, or Diggs was very very very close 3:47:44.760 --> 3:47:47.160 so I think it's it's the first time that I 3:47:47.280 --> 3:47:49.840 have more than three guys that I would have taken 3:47:49.879 --> 3:47:52.200 over who they took. But to be that close, I 3:47:52.280 --> 3:47:56.000 love to pick. Here's the cult selection, cold select Julian 3:47:56.240 --> 3:48:01.879 Blackman defensive back Burgess not even the first Utah safety 3:48:01.920 --> 3:48:05.360 off the board, how about that? But I love Julian Blackman. Yeah, 3:48:06.959 --> 3:48:09.400 I don't know that. That USC tape. I can't get 3:48:09.440 --> 3:48:11.840 that out of my mind. Michael Pittman just just abusing 3:48:11.959 --> 3:48:15.360 Julian Blackman, but uh surprised. I mean, he's not a 3:48:15.440 --> 3:48:18.320 better player than Troll Burgess in my opinion. Read on 3:48:18.400 --> 3:48:22.200 that real quick before we I mean, before we do that. 3:48:22.280 --> 3:48:24.879 I mean just thinking about this in the big picture, 3:48:24.879 --> 3:48:28.560 because we assume the Cowboys are done tonight. Um I get. 3:48:28.600 --> 3:48:31.760 I mean, if I'm trying to nitpick, not going edge 3:48:31.840 --> 3:48:36.119 rusher here at eighty two, by and large probably means 3:48:36.440 --> 3:48:40.400 you're not finding, you know, a difference maker in for 3:48:40.560 --> 3:48:44.000 twenty twenty, at least on the edge. So I mean 3:48:44.080 --> 3:48:46.959 you're you're you're probably you know, you're hoping Aldon Smith 3:48:47.040 --> 3:48:49.480 and Randy Gregory and Tyrone Crawford can all be that 3:48:49.640 --> 3:48:53.520 for you and that's definitely kind of scary. But with 3:48:53.760 --> 3:48:57.680 what they've gotten, I can't complain about it. Um, if 3:48:57.760 --> 3:48:59.879 Gallimore is the pick you feel the least good about, 3:49:00.480 --> 3:49:02.800 I got nothing bad to say, especially you know he's 3:49:02.840 --> 3:49:06.360 got Dontari Poe and Gerald McCoy a fellow Oklahoma sooner 3:49:06.440 --> 3:49:08.880 to learn from. I don't think there's any reason to 3:49:08.920 --> 3:49:10.640 feel bad about that at all. I mean, there's still 3:49:10.960 --> 3:49:13.240 a defensive end out there in free agency. You're gonna 3:49:13.240 --> 3:49:15.480 spend a little bit of money, Well yeah, but is 3:49:15.560 --> 3:49:18.680 that really the Cowboys way? You get some money laying around, 3:49:19.560 --> 3:49:22.440 a couple bucks laying around. Devion Clowney doesn't have a 3:49:22.480 --> 3:49:26.720 home right now. I will reinstitute the McDonald's bet with 3:49:26.880 --> 3:49:31.240 you about that. No, bet, I just thirty two teams. 3:49:31.280 --> 3:49:33.600 The odds are in your favor. I can't make that bet. Okay, 3:49:33.680 --> 3:49:36.040 wouldn't be right. But no, I think I think around 3:49:36.120 --> 3:49:39.320 the room, everybody's pretty darn happy with what the Cowboys 3:49:39.400 --> 3:49:41.560 have gone. We have done through two days here, you're 3:49:41.560 --> 3:49:44.200 a better football team than you were yesterday by far. 3:49:44.880 --> 3:49:46.560 And I think that's kind of what they wanted to 3:49:47.080 --> 3:49:49.720 give themselves an opportunity to do. Whenever it in terms 3:49:49.760 --> 3:49:52.760 of free agency. Yes, you just picked up the Ville Gallimore, 3:49:52.840 --> 3:49:56.040 but you picked up guys like Gerald McCoy and Dontari 3:49:56.120 --> 3:49:58.600 Poe that if you didn't want to go Gallimore there 3:49:58.800 --> 3:50:01.040 you'd be fine. Same thing, Edge Rusher. I think it 3:50:01.160 --> 3:50:03.360 gives him an option and he gives him a safety 3:50:03.440 --> 3:50:05.760 net to go best player available at least on their 3:50:05.840 --> 3:50:08.960 board and not have any worries about it. And like 3:50:09.040 --> 3:50:11.720 what Dave was saying, And now it's time to go hunting. 3:50:11.920 --> 3:50:14.240 It's time to day three. It's time to find guys 3:50:14.280 --> 3:50:16.280 that you like the traits on that you hope something 3:50:16.400 --> 3:50:19.200 can work out for, or see if somebody falls into 3:50:19.280 --> 3:50:21.880 your lap, because you know, when you're playing the odds 3:50:21.920 --> 3:50:24.240 your day three guys, some of them aren't gonna make 3:50:24.280 --> 3:50:27.200 the team, some of them are never gonna make an Impactum, 3:50:27.640 --> 3:50:30.200 but now it's time to go hunting. Let me do 3:50:30.360 --> 3:50:32.080 my since he's not talking right now, let me do 3:50:32.200 --> 3:50:36.000 my broadest impressions. The day of the Scouts, we're gonna 3:50:36.000 --> 3:50:37.840 go hunting it. I'm gonna go hunting for some for 3:50:37.960 --> 3:50:40.480 some players. I'm glad you learned after all these years, Dave. 3:50:40.840 --> 3:50:43.960 The Day of the Scouts, Buffalo Bills pick picks in Yeah, 3:50:44.000 --> 3:50:48.920 here we go. You talk Ah, Zach Moss running back 3:50:49.400 --> 3:50:52.360 Utah is going to the Buffalo Bills. I love Zach Moss. 3:50:52.400 --> 3:50:55.280 He's hard to tackle, running back to break tackles. They're 3:50:55.360 --> 3:50:59.160 my friend. You look at that Buffalo backfield. Devin's singletary 3:50:59.320 --> 3:51:03.480 Zach Mah. That's a that's a pretty nice duo back 3:51:03.600 --> 3:51:06.520 there for Josh Allen at quarterback. Well, they got three 3:51:06.600 --> 3:51:10.440 running backs. They got Josh Allen back there. So that's nice. 3:51:10.720 --> 3:51:14.240 That's not even really a joke. It's the best the 3:51:14.320 --> 3:51:18.720 best thing he has, uh. That team. That team's fun. 3:51:18.840 --> 3:51:21.040 You know, you build a good defense, you'd have a 3:51:21.120 --> 3:51:23.360 quarterback whose legs are a threat, and now you're backing 3:51:23.440 --> 3:51:25.800 him up with a couple of different running backs. It's 3:51:25.800 --> 3:51:28.720 a little bit old school, um and that I just 3:51:28.880 --> 3:51:30.840 I like Zach Moss. I think he's a fun runner 3:51:30.880 --> 3:51:33.600 to watch. I think you got a really mean business 3:51:33.640 --> 3:51:36.560 if you're going to tackle him. And I think that 3:51:37.240 --> 3:51:39.920 that bodes well to transition from college to the NFL 3:51:40.040 --> 3:51:42.000 when you're somebody that people are going to shy away 3:51:42.000 --> 3:51:44.560 from wanting to hit because you're tough to bring down. 3:51:45.560 --> 3:51:47.800 He's not even that big. You look at him, you're, 3:51:47.800 --> 3:51:49.880 I guess not a big guy. I just remember we 3:51:50.000 --> 3:51:53.640 started the process even last year. He was like running 3:51:53.640 --> 3:51:56.440 back number one on everybody, and then he stayed in, right, 3:51:56.560 --> 3:51:59.520 he didn't. He didn't, he didn't come out, and everyone's like, Oh, 3:51:59.520 --> 3:52:01.400 you gotta watch this guy. You gotta watch him, you 3:52:01.400 --> 3:52:03.520 gotta watch him. And tough, and he is and he 3:52:03.720 --> 3:52:07.200 is really tough. I mean you catch the ball. I 3:52:07.240 --> 3:52:09.800 mean there's sometimes when you watch him on tape as 3:52:09.920 --> 3:52:13.280 pass protector, he's got some of those those all around 3:52:13.360 --> 3:52:15.320 back trades to him with that ability to step up 3:52:15.320 --> 3:52:17.800 and hit people. Physical guy well, and kind of going 3:52:17.840 --> 3:52:20.680 back to what Kavanaugh was saying about his size, he's 3:52:20.720 --> 3:52:22.680 five nine and a half, but he's still two hundred 3:52:22.680 --> 3:52:25.800 and twenty three pounds, so he's wide enough to be 3:52:25.960 --> 3:52:28.760 able to pack an impact on in the middle of 3:52:28.920 --> 3:52:31.120 runs up the middle, and I think he's somebody that 3:52:31.440 --> 3:52:33.280 you could just kind of run up the gut and 3:52:33.360 --> 3:52:36.560 be okay. With the draft rolls on. The Patriots are 3:52:36.600 --> 3:52:39.320 on the clock at number eighty seven. You've been listening 3:52:39.360 --> 3:52:41.000 to the draft here one oh five three The Fan 3:52:41.120 --> 3:52:43.560 and Dallas Cowboys dot Com Zach and Eric will be 3:52:43.680 --> 3:52:46.320 coming up next here as the draft rolls on on 3:52:46.600 --> 3:52:49.920 Dallas Cowboys dot com. You're listening to the draft on 3:52:49.960 --> 3:52:51.960 one O five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot com. 3:52:54.480 --> 3:52:57.200 And now we are back on Dallas Cowboys dot com 3:52:57.360 --> 3:52:59.200 and I want to go ahead and tell you about 3:52:59.280 --> 3:53:03.800 the Cowboys and raising virtual funds for the Salvation Army. 3:53:03.800 --> 3:53:06.520 They're real funds, but they're doing it virtually by participating 3:53:06.560 --> 3:53:09.840 in the twenty twenty NFL Draft Athon, three day virtual 3:53:10.000 --> 3:53:14.400 fundraiser aimed at helping communities impacted by COVID nineteen and 3:53:14.440 --> 3:53:16.160 a health crisis. If you want to learn more, go 3:53:16.280 --> 3:53:19.520 online the NFL dot com slash Relief doing some great 3:53:19.560 --> 3:53:22.920 things during these crucial times here in our community. And 3:53:23.000 --> 3:53:25.800 the Cowboys have made their three picks in the first 3:53:25.840 --> 3:53:28.320 three rounds of the draft, seemingly done for the day 3:53:28.400 --> 3:53:30.200 unless they want to get crazy here at the back 3:53:30.280 --> 3:53:33.480 half of the third round. We're almost getting too comp 3:53:33.560 --> 3:53:37.080 pick time, about ten picks away from at least that 3:53:37.320 --> 3:53:40.240 sort of thing. You've got the Patriots, the Saints, the Vikings, 3:53:40.320 --> 3:53:43.280 and the Browns coming up next. As the Patriots are 3:53:43.280 --> 3:53:45.160 currently on the clock here, guys, how are we kind 3:53:45.200 --> 3:53:47.520 of shaping out as we go back into this this 3:53:47.720 --> 3:53:52.640 latter part of the third round. Well, trying to reset 3:53:52.720 --> 3:53:55.720 the draft board here. You know, we had a few 3:53:55.840 --> 3:53:59.440 key players coming off Chushian, Barry Lewis, Davis Gaithers still around, 3:53:59.520 --> 3:54:03.440 Adam Outman from Dayton to tight end, Curtis Weaver Boise State, 3:54:03.600 --> 3:54:07.800 George Elliott Missouri, Malik Harrison out of Ohio State. And 3:54:07.920 --> 3:54:10.680 then we still have the quarterbacks, you know, Jake from 3:54:11.600 --> 3:54:14.680 Jacob Eason. Surprise we haven't heard either of those two 3:54:14.760 --> 3:54:18.600 names come off the board. I mean, they're issues with 3:54:18.720 --> 3:54:21.120 both these players said, don't get me wrong, but it's 3:54:21.120 --> 3:54:24.040 still surprised that we haven't seen one of these teams 3:54:24.160 --> 3:54:27.640 maybe roll the dice on one of them. Yeah, I'm 3:54:27.680 --> 3:54:29.880 a little surprised by that too, because normally you would 3:54:29.920 --> 3:54:33.280 see more quarterbacks go. We've seen the top four in 3:54:33.360 --> 3:54:35.840 the first round and then one since then. We saw 3:54:36.720 --> 3:54:39.200 Jalen Hurts to Philadelphia in the second and since then 3:54:39.680 --> 3:54:42.280 it's been all quiet on the quarterback front, while running 3:54:42.320 --> 3:54:44.800 backs have kind of been going a little bit crazy. 3:54:44.920 --> 3:54:48.560 But I guess you can maybe get the sense from 3:54:48.600 --> 3:54:50.680 some of the teams and the way they've handled their offseason. 3:54:50.720 --> 3:54:53.000 I mean, there's still guys like Jamis Winston and Cam 3:54:53.120 --> 3:54:55.520 Newton out on the free agent market. You think that 3:54:55.640 --> 3:54:57.720 has a little bit of an impact on why teams 3:54:57.840 --> 3:55:01.000 or maybe reluctant to take a quarterback here. I think 3:55:01.040 --> 3:55:05.400 not only that, but you think about the current set 3:55:05.480 --> 3:55:07.640 up of what we think the fall is gonna look like. 3:55:07.720 --> 3:55:09.560 Are we gonna have a training camp, are we gonna 3:55:09.600 --> 3:55:13.280 have you know, these opportunities for these young quarterbacks to 3:55:13.960 --> 3:55:17.280 get acclimated with the playbook and his new teammates and everything, 3:55:17.360 --> 3:55:18.800 And it's gonna be tough for some of these young 3:55:18.960 --> 3:55:21.960 quarterbacks to really, uh, you know, get in there and 3:55:22.240 --> 3:55:24.400 carve out a role. So I think when you look 3:55:24.400 --> 3:55:27.000 at both these guys, they both have something about them 3:55:27.080 --> 3:55:30.640 that you really worry about their their transition. With Easton, 3:55:30.760 --> 3:55:34.160 it's the heavy feet, his ability to navigate pressure. With 3:55:34.440 --> 3:55:38.640 from it's he's very scheme specific. So it's interesting that 3:55:39.000 --> 3:55:41.000 you know, are they going to follow to day three? 3:55:42.000 --> 3:55:44.400 We have what twenty picks left or so, so it 3:55:44.440 --> 3:55:47.840 should be interesting. Now and the Patriots selection has been 3:55:47.960 --> 3:55:52.120 made and announced. Anthony Jennings often or outside linebacker rather 3:55:52.200 --> 3:55:55.600 out of Alabama is what New England goes with at 3:55:55.680 --> 3:55:58.560 pick eighty seven. Dane, what's your scouting report on him? 3:55:58.600 --> 3:56:01.120 This is a guy who going into twenty nineteen I 3:56:01.160 --> 3:56:02.760 think was tabbed. Is maybe one of the guys to 3:56:02.920 --> 3:56:06.960 watch as a first or second round recruit. Yeah. With Jennings, 3:56:07.040 --> 3:56:09.480 I don't know, it's tough to get overly excited about 3:56:09.720 --> 3:56:12.160 what he offers because I don't know, average size, six 3:56:12.280 --> 3:56:15.920 two two fifty six. He's not very sudden as a 3:56:15.960 --> 3:56:19.680 pass rusher, but he led Alabama and tackles for loss 3:56:19.720 --> 3:56:22.720 and sacks. You like a lot of what he brings from, 3:56:23.760 --> 3:56:27.760 you know, a stopping the run play recognition standpoint. But 3:56:28.160 --> 3:56:29.960 I just don't I think he's a little bit limited 3:56:30.040 --> 3:56:32.200 if you're expecting him to just rush off the edge. 3:56:32.200 --> 3:56:34.760 I think he's gonna be someone that it's and it's 3:56:34.760 --> 3:56:37.760 interesting that they drafted him along with Josh Uch kind 3:56:37.800 --> 3:56:42.280 of similar positions but very different types of players. Uch 3:56:42.480 --> 3:56:44.440 is going to bring that speed off the edge and 3:56:44.600 --> 3:56:47.760 you little bit of a liability against the run, where 3:56:47.880 --> 3:56:50.800 Jennings a little bit the opposite. So if you combine 3:56:50.880 --> 3:56:53.760 these two players, you might have a really good pass 3:56:53.840 --> 3:56:55.600 rusher you could stay on the field at all, all 3:56:55.680 --> 3:56:58.240 three downs. But it's interesting that they would bring both 3:56:58.320 --> 3:57:00.400 these guys in on day two. Maybe they're gonna do 3:57:00.440 --> 3:57:03.280 an experiment like that. Why not find a way to 3:57:03.280 --> 3:57:08.080 combine them. It's like the horse Lake theory. That's easy. 3:57:08.160 --> 3:57:12.360 That's a day three and three. Yeah, saved that one 3:57:12.440 --> 3:57:16.640 for late in the day. Yeah. Who who likes Saban? 3:57:16.760 --> 3:57:20.800 Guys more New England or Baltimore. Oh, I think that 3:57:21.360 --> 3:57:24.440 and maybe even clude the Vegas Raiders in this too. Yeah. 3:57:24.560 --> 3:57:26.800 You know, Mike Mayock is always going to He's got 3:57:26.880 --> 3:57:30.120 a great relationship with three sets of coaches I think 3:57:30.160 --> 3:57:34.000 at Clemson, Alabama, and Ohio State. So I mean that's 3:57:34.120 --> 3:57:36.480 kind of Mike mac when he goes to When he 3:57:36.560 --> 3:57:38.440 used to go to Alabama Pro Day, he was like king, 3:57:38.880 --> 3:57:40.440 you know, he was like walking around like he was 3:57:40.480 --> 3:57:43.800 a king. So uh, yeah, I think that. But yeah, 3:57:43.840 --> 3:57:46.880 there's teams that they all bowed down to. I mean, Saban, 3:57:46.960 --> 3:57:48.760 he's got all these players, he recruits them, but he 3:57:48.840 --> 3:57:51.640 just beats them all up, you know. He mean he does, 3:57:51.720 --> 3:57:53.520 he uses them up. They play a lot, and they 3:57:53.560 --> 3:57:56.800 play extra games every year. They have hard practices, you know, 3:57:57.040 --> 3:57:59.600 with him. So yeah, it's it's what you're gonna You're 3:57:59.600 --> 3:58:01.520 gonna love the players because they play in those games 3:58:01.560 --> 3:58:03.760 and they're good players, but you get them, they're pretty 3:58:03.760 --> 3:58:05.680 they're pretty beat up and by the time you get them, 3:58:06.440 --> 3:58:08.720 and he's the second Alabama player to go off the 3:58:08.800 --> 3:58:11.360 board in the last four picks, actually splitting that with 3:58:11.560 --> 3:58:14.800 Utah by the way, in Alabama Edge Rusher and Roll Lewis, 3:58:14.880 --> 3:58:17.760 and then you've got Julian Blackman from Utah, Zach Moss 3:58:17.800 --> 3:58:20.400 from Utah, and then Jennings from Alabama. Now with the 3:58:20.520 --> 3:58:22.920 Saints and Vikings coming up here in the next couple 3:58:22.960 --> 3:58:25.200 of moments, what's what are the boards kind of starting 3:58:25.200 --> 3:58:28.720 to look like Dane as we do get into we're 3:58:28.760 --> 3:58:32.200 getting close to pick ninety here, So I mentioned the 3:58:32.240 --> 3:58:34.280 compensatory picks coming up here in a little bit. The 3:58:34.320 --> 3:58:37.120 Patriots had plenty of those, but at least the board 3:58:37.160 --> 3:58:39.280 for me looks pretty heavy on the defensive line, with 3:58:39.400 --> 3:58:42.400 still Curtis Weaver and even Jordan Elliott in that mix 3:58:42.480 --> 3:58:45.280 as well. Yeah, the top guy for me is a 3:58:45.400 --> 3:58:49.000 Keem Davis Gaither talking about defender who can be a playmaker, 3:58:49.840 --> 3:58:54.680 you know, he's kind of that Isaiah Simmons light. You know, tall, long, athletic, 3:58:54.800 --> 3:58:56.360 he can do a lot of different things for you. 3:58:57.360 --> 3:59:00.920 Surprised he's still around here at this late stage of 3:59:01.000 --> 3:59:03.600 the third round. Uh. And but I'm with you with 3:59:03.680 --> 3:59:05.960 Curtis Weaver too. Um. You know, this guy was so 3:59:06.160 --> 3:59:08.360 productive at Boise State. There's a lot of things that 3:59:08.440 --> 3:59:10.760 don't like about him. He doesn't have an ideal body, 3:59:11.160 --> 3:59:13.640 doesn't have uh, you know, necessarily there's a reason he 3:59:13.680 --> 3:59:16.320 didn't run the forty yard dash at the combine. Um. 3:59:16.480 --> 3:59:19.320 But the production is undeniable. Now he beat up on 3:59:19.360 --> 3:59:22.040 some weaker competition. But still the way he can use 3:59:22.120 --> 3:59:25.040 his hands is something that I think at that position. 3:59:25.480 --> 3:59:27.920 Surprised that we haven't seen a team take a flyer 3:59:27.960 --> 3:59:32.200 on him yet. Yeah, I've seen a flyer at all there, Brian. No, 3:59:32.400 --> 3:59:36.680 I'm with Dane about the player. I'm I just keep 3:59:36.800 --> 3:59:39.880 looking at that Davis Gaither and yeah, I don't know 3:59:40.720 --> 3:59:42.600 what it is. But you know, if I'm looking for 3:59:42.800 --> 3:59:45.520 in the third round, guys that can run, guys that 3:59:45.640 --> 3:59:48.600 can finish, you know, I mean that he's that. He's 3:59:48.680 --> 3:59:51.120 that guy. For me. I look at him and I 3:59:51.240 --> 3:59:54.320 just I'm like, Okay, somebody's gonna take this guy. You know, 3:59:54.440 --> 3:59:56.440 I was kind of hoping that the Cowboys were gonna 3:59:56.440 --> 3:59:58.480 look at him, you know, I mean I had him 3:59:58.520 --> 4:00:00.520 in that round with with Gallum More and all that. 4:00:00.880 --> 4:00:02.760 We need to figure out what the deal with Burgess too. 4:00:02.840 --> 4:00:05.120 By the way, guys, you know that keeps falling. Yeah, 4:00:05.160 --> 4:00:07.040 that's a that's a phone call for Brian brought us 4:00:07.080 --> 4:00:08.880 on the way home, you know, And I know Dane 4:00:08.920 --> 4:00:11.000 can do the same thing, you know, but we can. 4:00:11.080 --> 4:00:13.520 You know, you just wonder a few of those phone 4:00:13.560 --> 4:00:15.720 calls from Brian brought us. Yeah, no, but you but 4:00:15.880 --> 4:00:18.360 you you gotta, you gotta figure out. Okay, why is 4:00:18.400 --> 4:00:21.400 this guy? He was clearly if you look at the tape, 4:00:21.680 --> 4:00:24.160 his ability to do a lot of different things to 4:00:24.400 --> 4:00:26.720 cover to play in the slot. I mean, he had 4:00:26.760 --> 4:00:28.680 to find him out there, but he made He's a 4:00:28.760 --> 4:00:31.720 productive player. I just don't understand why. You know, maybe 4:00:31.800 --> 4:00:35.160 teams are just kind of shying away from guys like this. Now, 4:00:35.200 --> 4:00:36.640 I do want to make a correction. I said that 4:00:36.720 --> 4:00:39.760 the Saints were on the clocks that Cleveland Browns. Yeah, Cleveland. 4:00:39.840 --> 4:00:44.440 This is a direct deal from whether they had earlier 4:00:44.480 --> 4:00:46.720 in the second round, whenever they swapped picks there, So 4:00:47.120 --> 4:00:49.120 the Browns are actually on the clock because we see 4:00:49.160 --> 4:00:52.360 maybe a corner here potentially go in the next couple 4:00:52.400 --> 4:00:54.960 of moments, because I know they still need cornerback help. 4:00:55.480 --> 4:00:58.760 Uh maybe uh, I don't know, maybe defensive line here. 4:00:59.400 --> 4:01:03.120 Uh yeah, defensive tackle. They need defensive end definitely. So 4:01:03.720 --> 4:01:06.240 and that we always have, you know, with a new 4:01:06.400 --> 4:01:09.120 front office, a new head coach, you have a group 4:01:09.200 --> 4:01:11.800 of guys that want their guys, and so I really 4:01:11.840 --> 4:01:15.320 don't think, you know, besides quarterback and running back, I 4:01:15.480 --> 4:01:19.080 think every other position's pretty much in play at this point. Yeah, 4:01:19.160 --> 4:01:21.600 that's true. It's much like the Dolphins, where I don't 4:01:21.600 --> 4:01:23.640 think they're in as bad of a spot as the Dolphins. 4:01:23.720 --> 4:01:26.560 But they've already taken an offensive tackle in Jedrick Will's 4:01:26.600 --> 4:01:30.600 Grant Delpit went in the second round at pick forty four, 4:01:30.760 --> 4:01:33.920 and now they're picking here in the third, so they've 4:01:33.960 --> 4:01:35.760 had a little bit of time to wait here for 4:01:35.840 --> 4:01:38.280 this pick. But they could really address a couple of 4:01:38.400 --> 4:01:40.560 issues where when it comes to the defense, and then 4:01:40.600 --> 4:01:43.000 also maybe adding a wide receiver if you really wanted to, 4:01:43.480 --> 4:01:46.560 depending on what the what the deal is with Odell 4:01:46.600 --> 4:01:49.120 Beckham junior. Yeah, as we wait for this pick, guys, 4:01:49.200 --> 4:01:52.040 when does that run for the tight ends going to start? Yeah, 4:01:52.160 --> 4:01:53.920 I got I've got all these tight ends kind of 4:01:54.000 --> 4:01:57.920 lumped together. And I know with ASSISI I mentioned him. Okay, 4:01:58.040 --> 4:02:01.560 Troutman is a Dane guy, the law firm of Brian 4:02:01.640 --> 4:02:05.360 and Bryant. You know, Albert Oh from Missouri. I mean 4:02:05.600 --> 4:02:09.640 is Pinkney when we got the commissioner's got to pick 4:02:09.720 --> 4:02:11.160 in right now, let's see we can get in here, 4:02:12.880 --> 4:02:15.680 and we encourage you to keep them coming. We've made 4:02:15.720 --> 4:02:19.240 a difference and well we've raised millions of dollars already 4:02:19.280 --> 4:02:22.320 and we hope to do more. And remember, the NFL 4:02:22.480 --> 4:02:25.040 is matching all of your donations, so we hope you'll 4:02:25.120 --> 4:02:30.360 keep it coming. Tonight, with the eighty eighth pick in 4:02:30.480 --> 4:02:35.360 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jordan Elliott, 4:02:36.080 --> 4:02:39.360 defensive tackle. Yeah, Missouri, that's a good pick. That's a 4:02:39.440 --> 4:02:43.280 good pick. That Yeah, as long as you are comfortable 4:02:43.360 --> 4:02:46.480 with the character, you're comfortable with the person. Uh yeah, 4:02:46.600 --> 4:02:49.240 you definitely liked the player. At this point in the draft, 4:02:49.840 --> 4:02:53.080 a guy who started at Texas transferred Missouri. And I 4:02:53.200 --> 4:02:54.720 tell you there are times on his tape where you 4:02:54.800 --> 4:02:57.000 see a first round player. You see a guy that 4:02:57.080 --> 4:03:00.680 can dominate the point of attack. He can slip through gas. Uh. 4:03:01.040 --> 4:03:03.440 There's a lot to like about Jordan Elliott as a 4:03:03.680 --> 4:03:05.600 as an ascending player, a guy who's getting better and 4:03:05.680 --> 4:03:08.080 better and still very young. So that was the thing 4:03:08.120 --> 4:03:10.840 with him. He plays young, he acts young, but the 4:03:11.000 --> 4:03:13.440 talent is not a question with this player. Yeah. See, 4:03:13.480 --> 4:03:15.560 this is where I would have taken him over Gallimore. 4:03:17.680 --> 4:03:19.360 This is where you know, you know me, I'm the 4:03:19.400 --> 4:03:22.360 Cincinnati Bengals of our staff. Yep, and I really don't 4:03:22.400 --> 4:03:25.280 you know. I mean, everything Dane said is absolutely right 4:03:25.320 --> 4:03:28.040 about maturity and things like that. The tape is too 4:03:28.120 --> 4:03:30.320 good for me. I'm in the third round here, I'm 4:03:30.360 --> 4:03:33.880 the big, massive tackle that gets up the field, stops people. 4:03:33.920 --> 4:03:41.600 It's hard to move. Yeah, no, no, no, Brian's contradicting 4:03:41.640 --> 4:03:43.560 himself and I'm here to hold him to task. That's 4:03:43.600 --> 4:03:47.680 what I'm gonna do because I love Jordan Elli. I 4:03:47.760 --> 4:03:51.560 loved his tape like I really early and I was like, yeah, 4:03:51.640 --> 4:03:54.160 this guy's getting in the backfield every other snap from 4:03:54.200 --> 4:03:56.560 like five different positions. He's a ton of fun. But 4:03:57.240 --> 4:04:00.000 Brian brought us will tell you that the criminal run 4:04:00.040 --> 4:04:07.400 round is the fourth round. Appreciate. I mean, he might 4:04:07.480 --> 4:04:09.600 not be a criminal, but if there are character and 4:04:09.800 --> 4:04:13.280 non tape concerns about a guy, yeah, then eighty two 4:04:13.480 --> 4:04:16.080 is too high for me to take that. But Brian 4:04:16.120 --> 4:04:19.720 bringing that name, bringing this name up after the Cowboys 4:04:19.760 --> 4:04:23.080 have taken Gallmore makes me look back at my board 4:04:23.080 --> 4:04:24.320 and be like, oh wow, I don't think I even 4:04:24.360 --> 4:04:26.120 mentioned him when Gallamore was taken as one of the 4:04:26.160 --> 4:04:27.400 guys I had ahead of him, and I had him 4:04:27.440 --> 4:04:28.880 a full round ahead of him, So I gotta be 4:04:28.920 --> 4:04:32.200 honest about that. Vic. Who's gonna pick right now? King 4:04:32.280 --> 4:04:39.320 sle Cameron Danceler defensive back? The good pick there, Mike Ziver. 4:04:39.760 --> 4:04:42.520 Solid corner that they've they've selected because they took Jeff 4:04:42.560 --> 4:04:45.600 Gladney with thirty one, so they're double dipping in corner already. 4:04:45.760 --> 4:04:50.040 I like the need they need corner? Oh they cos 4:04:51.080 --> 4:04:54.440 I'm not going to point fingers in anybody here. I'm not, 4:04:55.120 --> 4:04:57.320 And because I just feel like there's a lot of 4:04:57.400 --> 4:05:01.400 people that carried this guy down the board because of 4:05:02.440 --> 4:05:06.640 of the of the forty and I guarantee something happened 4:05:06.640 --> 4:05:08.560 to him at the combine where he didn't have a 4:05:08.640 --> 4:05:10.760 good day, and I could have gone to Missisippi State. 4:05:10.800 --> 4:05:12.280 I said it a bunch. I could have gotten faster, 4:05:12.400 --> 4:05:14.200 not at thirty eight yards, and I wouldn't have got 4:05:14.320 --> 4:05:16.080 him at four three. I would have got him at 4:05:16.120 --> 4:05:18.560 four or five, two or something like that, maybe or 4:05:18.600 --> 4:05:21.040 four or five. But I don't think he plays like 4:05:21.120 --> 4:05:23.400 a four to six guy. I'm just watching him play 4:05:23.400 --> 4:05:26.840 against a quality competition weekend week out in the SEC, 4:05:27.080 --> 4:05:30.800 and the guy covers, the guy has ability to make plays, intercepts, 4:05:30.880 --> 4:05:33.520 creates turnovers, things like that. I hope he has a 4:05:33.600 --> 4:05:35.760 really nice career. He went to the perfect coach, by 4:05:35.840 --> 4:05:38.800 the way, Mike Zimmer. Mike Zimmer will, Mike Zimmer will 4:05:38.880 --> 4:05:42.200 get him to play to his best level. If he's 4:05:42.200 --> 4:05:44.600 a four or five guy, he'll outplay this draft slot 4:05:44.680 --> 4:05:49.200 for sure. He will. This is this is this he will, 4:05:49.320 --> 4:05:52.920 He's he's on tape. He is better than that draft slot. 4:05:53.200 --> 4:05:55.720 But I like, I just can't take this place where 4:05:55.720 --> 4:05:59.320 everything's even and I can trust the times and throw 4:05:59.400 --> 4:06:01.720 out one it says it's going to be really tough 4:06:01.800 --> 4:06:04.240 for him to be a good NFL player. Can't do it. 4:06:05.080 --> 4:06:06.560 I just I mean they picked him in the round 4:06:06.600 --> 4:06:08.680 where I have him, got him in the third round. Yeah, 4:06:08.800 --> 4:06:11.560 that the tape is just too good for me and 4:06:11.680 --> 4:06:14.040 I again, Mike Zimmer will figure out a way to 4:06:14.840 --> 4:06:17.600 use him and and use him the right way. This 4:06:17.760 --> 4:06:19.720 is much, this is this is getting. This could be 4:06:19.800 --> 4:06:22.520 the Richard Sherman. This could be a Richard Sherman Sherman 4:06:22.880 --> 4:06:25.600 four five. Yeah, well this guy ran four six yep, 4:06:25.720 --> 4:06:27.000 and he could and I could have got him in 4:06:27.040 --> 4:06:30.560 four five. My biggest issue with with Danceler wasn't necessarily 4:06:30.600 --> 4:06:32.880 his speed. It was just his ability to turn and 4:06:32.920 --> 4:06:35.240 find the football that I thought that was something that 4:06:35.400 --> 4:06:38.560 he did and inconsistently, and when he did he would 4:06:38.560 --> 4:06:42.200 make contact. And uh, it's it's a player who was 4:06:42.240 --> 4:06:44.440 a quarterback in high school. He didn't really play corner 4:06:44.720 --> 4:06:48.640 until he got to Mississippi Mississippi State, and so he's 4:06:48.680 --> 4:06:51.240 still learning. But I think he has upside because he's 4:06:51.240 --> 4:06:54.600 a good athlete. Uh he's tall, little leaner than you want. 4:06:54.640 --> 4:06:57.400 You worry about the body armor holding up and run support. 4:06:57.560 --> 4:07:01.440 But I thought he was a better, better play than here. 4:07:01.800 --> 4:07:05.560 Around the ninetieth pick, it's Jonathan Greenard at ninety to 4:07:05.680 --> 4:07:08.840 the Houston Texans. The Florida pass rusher. That is who 4:07:08.840 --> 4:07:14.360 you've got going there at number ninety, that's the Houston Texans, right, Yes, Okay, 4:07:14.680 --> 4:07:17.400 to finish off and pick and they're both defensive tackles 4:07:17.720 --> 4:07:20.600 excuse me, defensive lineman. I mean the gs with the 4:07:20.640 --> 4:07:22.560 amount of trades they've been making. Yeah, they just don't 4:07:22.560 --> 4:07:25.800 have that many picks. No, but I just I mean 4:07:25.880 --> 4:07:27.920 to finish off the thought we were having about Elliott 4:07:27.960 --> 4:07:31.600 and Gallimore. And you know, it's it's difficult and tricky 4:07:31.720 --> 4:07:34.000 talking about off the field stuff because you don't know 4:07:34.120 --> 4:07:36.920 the full picture unless you're really part of this process. Sure, 4:07:37.640 --> 4:07:41.240 I can't fault the Cowboys for taking the surer guy. 4:07:41.360 --> 4:07:42.880 I mean, if they don't, you know, if you don't 4:07:42.880 --> 4:07:45.680 feel good about Elliott off the field, eighty two is 4:07:45.720 --> 4:07:47.680 still too high for me. I mean, if you're talking 4:07:47.800 --> 4:07:50.320 day three, it makes a lot more sense. But I'm 4:07:50.360 --> 4:07:52.600 not going to ding them for taking the guy that 4:07:52.640 --> 4:07:55.920 they feel more comfortable with, which makes a lot of sense. 4:07:56.000 --> 4:07:59.480 I think overall, Well, I mean, I I don't know. 4:07:59.560 --> 4:08:03.760 I just that's fair. I thought their tape was around difference. 4:08:04.000 --> 4:08:07.000 I thought I thought Elliot's tape was considerably better. But 4:08:07.080 --> 4:08:08.840 I will say, but you're right about what you're saying. 4:08:08.840 --> 4:08:10.760 I don't there's things that I don't know about them. 4:08:10.800 --> 4:08:12.560 I don't know what people mean when they say off 4:08:12.600 --> 4:08:15.200 the field, and unless there's something documented on it, I 4:08:15.240 --> 4:08:17.040 don't know what it is. So if you want to 4:08:17.080 --> 4:08:19.560 give me an effort player, I'll take I'll take the 4:08:19.680 --> 4:08:22.480 Lynch kid from Baylor. You know. If you want to 4:08:22.480 --> 4:08:24.440 give me a guy that could play in play tackle, 4:08:24.640 --> 4:08:27.360 I'll take that guy. You know, But I mean Gallimore, 4:08:27.440 --> 4:08:29.200 that's fine. I mean where they I had him on 4:08:29.280 --> 4:08:32.320 that spot. I just thought that Elliott was a better player. 4:08:32.640 --> 4:08:34.760 I mean, if you said, put all those guys together, 4:08:34.800 --> 4:08:38.880 who do you have Elliott Gallimore, say Lynch in that round? 4:08:39.560 --> 4:08:42.960 I would have it Elliott Gallimore Lynch. I mean, like 4:08:43.000 --> 4:08:45.120 I say, I'm kind of looking at it as like 4:08:45.320 --> 4:08:48.000 that Gallimore Lynch. It really was a toss up for me. 4:08:49.080 --> 4:08:52.040 On the Raiders, did you a favor before year pick 4:08:52.120 --> 4:08:54.440 at eighty two with back to back wide receivers. They're 4:08:54.520 --> 4:08:56.560 up again for the fifth time today. Do you think 4:08:57.120 --> 4:08:59.080 do you think they're gonna take another wide receiver? Here? Guys, 4:08:59.240 --> 4:09:02.600 the fourth of the draft. Oh, Green can't help him? Yeah, 4:09:02.640 --> 4:09:05.760 Green can't help himself. They're all there. I mean they're 4:09:05.760 --> 4:09:08.400 a great wide receiver class and deep one at that. Well, 4:09:08.440 --> 4:09:10.400 they got the this was like a New England pick, 4:09:10.560 --> 4:09:13.880 so maybe this was a pick. Yeah, yeah, New England 4:09:13.960 --> 4:09:16.760 traded in. Sorry I did I should have yelled that out. 4:09:16.800 --> 4:09:20.720 They traded up to ninety one. It's like, ah, Devin Asias. 4:09:21.720 --> 4:09:25.000 How about that the Raiders took Devin asi Assi, the 4:09:25.080 --> 4:09:27.640 tight end out of UCLA. It means the Cowboys cannot 4:09:27.680 --> 4:09:29.320 take him in the fourth round if I've got the 4:09:29.400 --> 4:09:32.840 rules of the draft right, correct, that's correct, Jeffrey. Yes, 4:09:33.800 --> 4:09:37.880 that's a fake, that's a fake. Pro Yeah they did, Okay, 4:09:38.320 --> 4:09:42.480 I mean the Patriots they oh, okay that Assisi was 4:09:42.520 --> 4:09:45.040 the Patriots pick. Okay, ye. The thing. Yeah, that's a 4:09:45.080 --> 4:09:47.200 team that needed a lot of tight end help, and 4:09:47.280 --> 4:09:49.680 I think Assisi is a fun prospect. I think this 4:09:49.800 --> 4:09:52.840 is where he belongs. I think that that's that's good. 4:09:52.920 --> 4:09:55.920 That's a team that needed one and they probably found 4:09:55.920 --> 4:09:58.600 a future starter here in the end of the third round. Dan, 4:09:58.720 --> 4:10:02.760 did you did you hear it all about football character 4:10:02.880 --> 4:10:06.160 concerns like how hard he would work, how hard he 4:10:06.200 --> 4:10:08.600 wouldn't work that kind of Did you hear anything about 4:10:08.680 --> 4:10:11.840 this player that way? There were there were talks about that, 4:10:12.200 --> 4:10:15.240 about him reaching his full potential, and you know he 4:10:15.360 --> 4:10:18.560 was suspended at one point, and uh, you know the 4:10:19.320 --> 4:10:22.920 he liked to enjoy the college experience, that type of thing. Um, 4:10:23.080 --> 4:10:25.240 so you do worry about that a lot. He was 4:10:25.280 --> 4:10:27.720 a California kid and how he's going all the way 4:10:27.720 --> 4:10:30.240 out to New England. How's that going to play? But 4:10:30.600 --> 4:10:33.720 second tight end off the board, right, Yeah, commit was 4:10:33.760 --> 4:10:35.800 the first one. Yeah, a little surprising to see. I 4:10:35.840 --> 4:10:38.120 mean I thought ASSISI was a top five tight end 4:10:38.160 --> 4:10:40.840 in this draft. I don't necessarily think I would have 4:10:40.880 --> 4:10:44.360 guessed he would have been the second tight end drafted. Yeah, 4:10:45.040 --> 4:10:49.640 he was tight ends though. Oh I'll tell you what though, 4:10:49.680 --> 4:10:52.280 I know the Cowboys did a ton of work on him, 4:10:52.680 --> 4:10:54.400 you know, I mean it was a guy the video 4:10:54.520 --> 4:10:57.280 conferencing maybe a thirty visit thing. If if that did that, 4:10:57.400 --> 4:10:59.160 I mean, there was a lot of there were people 4:10:59.280 --> 4:11:03.000 talking about this guy. Him and and Terrell. Those guys were, 4:11:03.160 --> 4:11:04.720 you know, where the guys that did a lot a 4:11:04.760 --> 4:11:06.520 lot of work. Chase On was another one of those 4:11:06.600 --> 4:11:08.760 guys that did, they did a lot of work on 4:11:08.920 --> 4:11:11.800 and so you know, I knew the Cowboys maybe would 4:11:11.800 --> 4:11:14.040 would conserve. I was asking you, guys, there is this 4:11:14.160 --> 4:11:16.360 the run for the tight ends? Now? Is this you know, 4:11:16.520 --> 4:11:18.120 are people gonna say, Okay, we gotta go ahead and 4:11:18.200 --> 4:11:20.640 start grabbing him now, or is it this thing gonna 4:11:20.640 --> 4:11:24.000 stretch a little bit further down the board? I could 4:11:24.040 --> 4:11:27.040 see this being a tight end run here late in 4:11:27.080 --> 4:11:29.840 the third. Let's go down the list of teams that 4:11:29.880 --> 4:11:35.000 could use a tight end. Titans, yeah, I think they could. Packers, 4:11:35.120 --> 4:11:39.160 Packers absolutely, yeah, Broncos, Chiefs don't need a tight end. 4:11:39.760 --> 4:11:42.760 The Browns, yeah. See that's what I'm saying. I just 4:11:43.440 --> 4:11:45.600 these guys. It's the one part of my board I'm 4:11:45.640 --> 4:11:48.080 looking at. I've got everything kind of color coded. It's 4:11:48.120 --> 4:11:50.440 the one position where I have those guys like Bill 4:11:50.480 --> 4:11:53.240 pars Hills used to say, snacked in there like club sandwiches, 4:11:53.720 --> 4:11:56.240 you know, And so I'm just thinking, Okay, at some 4:11:56.360 --> 4:11:58.240 point somebody is going to go out. But I've got 4:11:58.280 --> 4:12:02.640 some cornerbacks too, Holmes kid from UCLA, I got Robertson 4:12:02.720 --> 4:12:06.160 from Louisiana Tech. But those are those are two small guys. Yeah, 4:12:06.200 --> 4:12:08.520 those are two like tiny guys, you know, eat peanuts 4:12:08.600 --> 4:12:11.360 off the top of their heads kind of thing. Yeah, 4:12:12.000 --> 4:12:14.080 you're the I mean you're my Cleveland Browns guy. I 4:12:14.200 --> 4:12:16.920 just I just look at you as an extension of 4:12:17.000 --> 4:12:20.840 the Browns front office. Naturally. Um, what what do you 4:12:20.920 --> 4:12:23.640 what can I want? What do you want for David 4:12:23.680 --> 4:12:28.680 and jokut Um? I'm trying to get rid of them, 4:12:28.760 --> 4:12:30.640 so I know you are what do you take much? 4:12:30.920 --> 4:12:33.640 I mean, can I offer you looking for a soft 4:12:33.720 --> 4:12:37.280 tight end you can't catch? Oh? Wow wow wow wow 4:12:37.320 --> 4:12:41.520 wow wow? Uh second five? If I can get your third. 4:12:41.680 --> 4:12:43.400 But now that I told you how I really feel 4:12:43.440 --> 4:12:46.000 about him, you cannot have my You can't have my 4:12:46.080 --> 4:12:49.480 third because his name is going back and forth. Well, 4:12:50.320 --> 4:12:52.280 I mean, can I can I pry him away from you? 4:12:52.360 --> 4:12:56.040 For pick one sixty four? I think if no? I mean, 4:12:56.080 --> 4:12:57.760 that's that's pretty late. I got to be able to 4:12:57.800 --> 4:13:00.720 get a better offer than that. I'm not giving. Kay, 4:13:00.920 --> 4:13:04.000 Or do you try to? I mean this, how about Tampa? 4:13:04.080 --> 4:13:05.920 Do you go to Tampa and try and get oj Howard? 4:13:06.200 --> 4:13:08.720 I mean, are they are? They? Are? They caught in? Okay, 4:13:08.800 --> 4:13:10.440 we had to have a second round you guys not 4:13:10.560 --> 4:13:12.960 letting my god drow and get a shine on. No, 4:13:13.040 --> 4:13:15.320 I just got paid. If we're talking, if we're talking 4:13:15.360 --> 4:13:18.880 about tight end, he's got two backups. Okay, So I actually, hey, 4:13:19.080 --> 4:13:21.720 Jeff said a tight end. For the record, if I'm 4:13:21.880 --> 4:13:25.000 I'm honestly relieved that Assiassi's gone because I don't want 4:13:25.040 --> 4:13:28.200 them to draft a tight end. They have Lake Darwin, right, Dave, 4:13:28.280 --> 4:13:30.000 So you heard the same thing then that they really 4:13:30.080 --> 4:13:32.400 liked ASSISI then, oh, yeah, no, he, I mean he's 4:13:32.560 --> 4:13:35.240 he is one of those names that's been circulating around. 4:13:35.280 --> 4:13:36.520 I don't know if he would have been the pick 4:13:36.560 --> 4:13:38.840 at one twenty three, but I think they really liked him. 4:13:39.600 --> 4:13:42.800 Um so, and I don't think they need a tight end. 4:13:42.920 --> 4:13:45.680 My whole point was I would rather try to get 4:13:45.880 --> 4:13:48.160 in Joku out of Cleveland than draft one of these 4:13:48.200 --> 4:13:50.520 tight ends because I just I don't feel great about 4:13:50.560 --> 4:13:52.600 this tight end class. I don't think it's that impressive. 4:13:52.840 --> 4:13:55.480 I still think I picks hang on, boys picks it. Okay, 4:13:55.520 --> 4:13:59.000 With the ninety second pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 4:13:59.600 --> 4:14:05.120 the ball more ravens like Devin DuVernay, wide receiver Texas, 4:14:06.200 --> 4:14:07.840 I thought they would maybe go with like a John 4:14:07.920 --> 4:14:13.680 high Tower or somebody like that first before DuVernay popped up. Yeah, 4:14:13.680 --> 4:14:15.920 I like that a lot, though, Lamar, listen, you've got 4:14:16.000 --> 4:14:18.000 two choices. You can throw it to him behind the 4:14:18.040 --> 4:14:20.040 line of scrimmage and watch him work, or you can 4:14:20.080 --> 4:14:22.000 throw it to him way down there and watch him run. 4:14:22.640 --> 4:14:25.080 Because to me, that's what DuVernay kind of is. He's 4:14:25.080 --> 4:14:27.880 a deep threat. He's good in the screen game because 4:14:27.880 --> 4:14:31.480 he can break tackles, but I don't trust him as 4:14:31.480 --> 4:14:35.120 a route runner. Nope, let's let's run and let's do 4:14:35.200 --> 4:14:37.600 the opposite of running and step backwards and catch the ball. 4:14:38.200 --> 4:14:41.560 Maybe jet sweep it. Let Lamar just keep running the ball, 4:14:41.640 --> 4:14:43.320 keep running the ball. Give him an extra guy that 4:14:43.400 --> 4:14:45.840 can really run along with Hollywood Brown. You're throwing to 4:14:45.960 --> 4:14:50.120 these tight ends. I really like that fit. Dane. How 4:14:50.240 --> 4:14:53.760 is he as a blocker? I don't know if he's 4:14:53.920 --> 4:14:56.240 asked to do it that much, at least if he 4:14:56.360 --> 4:14:58.440 did on tape, I didn't see it a lot. But 4:14:58.880 --> 4:15:01.240 I mean, he's basically an engineer the run game. That's 4:15:01.240 --> 4:15:03.280 what he was at Texas, and he could track the 4:15:03.400 --> 4:15:05.520 deep ball. But yeah, he used to get the ball 4:15:05.560 --> 4:15:07.440 in his hands and he has the size of a 4:15:07.560 --> 4:15:10.160 running back and so he'd break tackles. Grant Delpa to 4:15:10.240 --> 4:15:14.760 tell you that. I mean he's a fourth three athlete, 4:15:14.880 --> 4:15:17.000 and you know it's like, do you look at the 4:15:17.120 --> 4:15:19.560 Ravens building a little bit of a track team there 4:15:19.600 --> 4:15:22.440 on offense with Hollywood Brown. Miles Boykin was a four 4:15:22.840 --> 4:15:25.880 three athlete last year, So they've got speed, speed to 4:15:25.920 --> 4:15:30.040 burn and JK. Dobbins in this draft that that offense 4:15:30.280 --> 4:15:34.000 is not fun to go against. I think it's a 4:15:34.080 --> 4:15:36.160 great pick by these guys. I told you I had 4:15:36.200 --> 4:15:40.720 those pocket of those receivers, those like the Porches, the Duvenais, 4:15:40.840 --> 4:15:43.520 the Van Jefferson's, kJ Hill. I mean, these are all 4:15:43.600 --> 4:15:46.120 guys that can really catch the ball, you know. I 4:15:46.200 --> 4:15:49.080 mean you just throw it in their direction, they find 4:15:49.120 --> 4:15:51.440 a way to make the play and then after the catch, 4:15:52.160 --> 4:15:54.600 they've got that kind of ability to finish. So I 4:15:55.040 --> 4:15:58.520 think the raven the Ravens just continually do things that 4:15:58.720 --> 4:16:00.640 you're like, you're you're looking at me, You're going, okay. 4:16:01.240 --> 4:16:04.320 They for years, they've gotten Ozzie, they've made the transition 4:16:04.360 --> 4:16:07.440 to Eric to Costa. I give them a high march 4:16:07.520 --> 4:16:10.520 for what they've been able to do. I like this 4:16:10.640 --> 4:16:12.800 pick overall. I really do you add another receiver? We 4:16:12.880 --> 4:16:17.000 kind of talked about maybe a Denzel Mims earlier for Baltimore, 4:16:17.080 --> 4:16:19.520 but honestly, I think du Rene might be a better 4:16:19.560 --> 4:16:21.560 fit than Mims in that offense anyway. So now we've 4:16:21.600 --> 4:16:24.200 got the Titans up ninety three, ninety four, ninety five 4:16:24.280 --> 4:16:27.200 Titans packers Broncos. Here what are we looking at for 4:16:27.280 --> 4:16:29.640 the Titans? I mean, they took Isaiah Wilson offensive tackle 4:16:29.680 --> 4:16:33.680 in the first Christian Fulton in that second round? Where 4:16:33.680 --> 4:16:36.120 are we going from here? If you're looking at an 4:16:36.160 --> 4:16:40.320 AFC Championship Titans team that has done a nice job 4:16:40.360 --> 4:16:45.640 of adding some talent here, Yeah, I'm trying. Yeah, i'd 4:16:46.080 --> 4:16:49.840 Curtis Weaver. Um, we have a bullet who's off the 4:16:49.880 --> 4:16:52.680 board for them? So far? They took the right tackle, 4:16:52.720 --> 4:16:56.280 Isaiah Wilson the first. They took the corner in the second, 4:16:56.440 --> 4:17:00.960 Christian Fulton. So could see them go ahead Rusher? Uh? 4:17:01.920 --> 4:17:05.440 Could see them go with more offensive line help? Uh? 4:17:05.480 --> 4:17:10.480 Could they take a linebacker like Malik Harrison? Um already 4:17:10.520 --> 4:17:14.360 didn't they? Yeah? Yeah? So they lost their tight end though, too, 4:17:14.480 --> 4:17:18.640 didn't they didn't? They lose. Uh. They they moved on 4:17:18.800 --> 4:17:22.000 from their long time tied end there, Landy Walker. Yeah, 4:17:22.040 --> 4:17:25.120 they moved on like what's his name a lot though, 4:17:25.320 --> 4:17:29.760 Um they're other tight end uh from fiu oh Um 4:17:31.360 --> 4:17:36.120 Smith John Smith, Yes, uh so they like him a lot. 4:17:36.200 --> 4:17:38.720 But yeah, I mean tight end could be a possibility here. 4:17:39.200 --> 4:17:41.160 I mean I was just again looking at the board 4:17:41.280 --> 4:17:44.280 and you know, and and seeing where the position maybe 4:17:44.320 --> 4:17:48.640 the better rated players would be on somebody's board. You know, 4:17:49.240 --> 4:17:51.880 that's kind of who who is the backup quarterback there? 4:17:51.920 --> 4:17:54.520 Have They have they addressed that with their situation there? 4:17:54.560 --> 4:17:57.400 I don't think so? Is that an I mean that's 4:17:57.400 --> 4:17:59.040 what I'm kind of looking at right now. If you 4:17:59.120 --> 4:18:01.880 know they've they've made commitment, you know, for the guy 4:18:01.960 --> 4:18:05.320 to have. But is there a backup quarterback there? Well? No, 4:18:05.560 --> 4:18:08.360 I think yeah, they they have the tleto kid Logan 4:18:08.400 --> 4:18:12.960 woods Side. Yeah, but no, I mean yeah, could they 4:18:13.000 --> 4:18:16.200 go with Aniston here as a you know, the value 4:18:16.240 --> 4:18:19.240 is just too much here to put behind Ryan Tannehill 4:18:19.680 --> 4:18:25.320 in case you know there's an injuries that's possibility. It's 4:18:25.360 --> 4:18:28.720 still odd we even mentioned maybe twelve thirteen picks ago, 4:18:28.800 --> 4:18:31.280 how we haven't seen a quarterback off the board. Since 4:18:31.800 --> 4:18:34.840 Jalen Hurts went to Philadelphia at fifty three and we're 4:18:34.840 --> 4:18:37.600 almost to pick one hundred, we still haven't seen a quarterback. 4:18:37.920 --> 4:18:40.640 I mean, much to Brian's point about the tight ends, 4:18:40.640 --> 4:18:43.200 you could say the same thing about some of these quarterbacks. 4:18:43.240 --> 4:18:46.960 They don't necessarily need to be starters. A backup quarterback 4:18:47.040 --> 4:18:49.920 potential like a team like Tennessee. I don't know if 4:18:49.960 --> 4:18:52.760 Tennessee would go with one here, but I mean there's 4:18:52.840 --> 4:18:56.000 some teams here that could use one. I think this 4:18:56.200 --> 4:18:58.480 is just a random observation, but I think if the 4:18:58.600 --> 4:19:01.880 cowboys are listening, as they tend to do while they're 4:19:01.960 --> 4:19:04.960 in their separate war rooms right now, don't be afraid 4:19:05.000 --> 4:19:06.880 to jump back up in here to get a Keem Davis, 4:19:07.000 --> 4:19:10.280 Gaither or Terrell Burgess. Okay, don't be afraid to jump 4:19:10.360 --> 4:19:14.160 back in here. Are you willing this now? I'm willing it. Yeah, 4:19:14.440 --> 4:19:17.680 I appreciate you willing. I'm willing my way Keem Davis, 4:19:17.760 --> 4:19:20.280 Gaither or Terrell burg Usually day three, you're one of 4:19:20.320 --> 4:19:22.360 the best willers there is. Yeah, maybe I do have 4:19:22.440 --> 4:19:24.280 to wait. I have to this round to end ye 4:19:24.480 --> 4:19:27.160 sleep in and day three will something Yeah, what are 4:19:27.200 --> 4:19:28.960 you using? I mean, what would you use to get 4:19:29.040 --> 4:19:32.680 up anyway? That's my question. Okay, So here's the way 4:19:32.680 --> 4:19:34.840 I would approach this two fives. Here's the way i'd 4:19:34.880 --> 4:19:37.400 approaches I do worth that's worth like eight points. Oh, 4:19:37.560 --> 4:19:40.080 just use them. I have the two five, call the 4:19:40.120 --> 4:19:41.720 guy down to Houston. He'll give it to you. I 4:19:41.960 --> 4:19:44.920 also a couple picks. I also know how the comp 4:19:45.000 --> 4:19:48.120 formula works, so I know what I have coming next year. 4:19:48.440 --> 4:19:51.800 I know that I'm going to have extra picks, and 4:19:52.120 --> 4:19:54.320 maybe three or four, and maybe a couple of them 4:19:54.360 --> 4:19:56.760 are pretty darn good. I'm not afraid to use the 4:19:56.840 --> 4:19:59.000 next year's pick because it's gonna get replaced by a 4:19:59.080 --> 4:20:02.480 COMP pick that's fair. Next year's three for Byron Jones. 4:20:03.600 --> 4:20:05.760 Oh no, you can't have my way up trading for 4:20:05.800 --> 4:20:08.360 Byron Jones. No no, I'm just saying that you cannot. 4:20:08.600 --> 4:20:11.400 You cannot have my threes for next year. You're not 4:20:11.440 --> 4:20:13.920 gonna get next year threes. Not Well, you can't trade 4:20:13.920 --> 4:20:16.440 a pick that doesn't exist, first of all, So okay, 4:20:16.840 --> 4:20:18.960 but you can say that, But you could say next 4:20:19.040 --> 4:20:21.320 year three your own three. Yeah, you have your own 4:20:21.320 --> 4:20:23.240 you three, your own three for you got one. You 4:20:23.360 --> 4:20:25.280 know you're getting one. If you know you're getting one, yeah, 4:20:26.160 --> 4:20:28.320 you can do that. I would not do that. But 4:20:28.400 --> 4:20:30.520 nobody's gonna give you a third right now for next 4:20:30.600 --> 4:20:33.920 year's three. Yeah, exactly. Yets are happy about picking a 4:20:34.000 --> 4:20:40.160 player here. They're just going there. You're usually my my 4:20:40.360 --> 4:20:43.320 common sense buddy. Don't do this. You guys are all 4:20:43.400 --> 4:20:45.720 really taking turns being common sense guy, and I'm gonna 4:20:45.720 --> 4:20:47.520 need you to narrow down who's gonna play that role. 4:20:47.600 --> 4:20:51.400 Ever since Dane moved, he's become common sense guy. I 4:20:51.440 --> 4:20:56.160 got two kids. That happens. I thought that was the 4:20:56.240 --> 4:20:57.920 role that I was gonna have to fill coming into 4:20:58.000 --> 4:21:01.320 this this one. But it's everybody but Jeff. Yeah, Kyle, 4:21:01.320 --> 4:21:02.800 you're gonna have to come on over to my side 4:21:02.800 --> 4:21:05.160 and get a little wild on him. You know, Jeff 4:21:05.160 --> 4:21:07.040 and Brian, we got too much reality in here. You 4:21:07.400 --> 4:21:09.480 try to get crazy. Fine, let's trade back up and 4:21:09.520 --> 4:21:11.640 let's go get another wide receiver. Let's go fifty Burger. 4:21:12.080 --> 4:21:15.560 Oh okay, is there a wide receiver the running would 4:21:15.600 --> 4:21:19.960 even want to draft this early? Left? Uh? Donovan, people's jones, Kja, 4:21:21.840 --> 4:21:23.520 why would you bring that name up? I don't know 4:21:23.560 --> 4:21:28.240 I'm just I'm just getting I'm just getting crazy. Dandy 4:21:28.360 --> 4:21:32.520 Golden I can get I should be able to Proche tomorrow. Jennings, 4:21:33.120 --> 4:21:35.880 I can get Proche tomorrow. Ideally I could get kJ 4:21:36.040 --> 4:21:39.000 Hill tomorrow too. Ideal. Yeah, I bet, I bet kJ 4:21:39.160 --> 4:21:42.160 Hills Belle with their fourth round pick, we gotta pick cut. Finally, Tennessee, 4:21:44.000 --> 4:21:52.080 the Tennessee Titans slack Darrington Evans running back state. I 4:21:52.120 --> 4:21:54.160 didn't think he'd be the first step steak guy off 4:21:54.200 --> 4:21:59.080 the board. That makes sense. Five bucks to anybody that 4:21:59.120 --> 4:22:03.440 can name Tennessee's back up running back. I would I 4:22:03.440 --> 4:22:09.600 would lose Darrington Evans. Yeah, exactly, there it is bucks. No, 4:22:09.680 --> 4:22:13.000 because they don't really have anybody behind Derrick Henry, who's 4:22:13.840 --> 4:22:16.880 on the franchise tag. So, uh, that pick makes sense 4:22:17.000 --> 4:22:18.760 and this is the right way to do things. Leave 4:22:18.840 --> 4:22:22.640 Derrick Henry on the franchise tag and after this year, Una, 4:22:22.760 --> 4:22:25.560 let's not go down that rabbit hole. Sorry. Uh, like 4:22:25.720 --> 4:22:30.000 Darrison Evans, it's all about speed that uh that outside zone. 4:22:30.480 --> 4:22:34.120 Uh just let he's not the most gifted runner in 4:22:34.280 --> 4:22:37.560 terms of uh, you know, working off contact and you 4:22:37.600 --> 4:22:39.560 know he's not a banger in the middle, but He's 4:22:39.600 --> 4:22:42.120 a guy that will give him a runway and he'll 4:22:42.160 --> 4:22:44.680 make something happen kind of a lot of ways. Kind 4:22:44.680 --> 4:22:47.360 of like Derrick Henry, just in a much different package. Uh. 4:22:47.440 --> 4:22:50.040 He's not nearly as big and he's much faster, but 4:22:50.280 --> 4:22:52.000 it's all about the runway. You give him a little 4:22:52.000 --> 4:22:53.440 bit of room to work and he'll do the rest 4:22:53.480 --> 4:22:56.280 of that athleticism. Yeah, I think this guy does a 4:22:56.400 --> 4:22:59.680 really good job. Dane. Once again, it's got him cold. 4:23:00.240 --> 4:23:02.960 I think that to me that the the you look 4:23:03.040 --> 4:23:05.280 at him and the way he runs, and you know, 4:23:05.480 --> 4:23:07.440 you kind of see a guy that's been used as 4:23:07.520 --> 4:23:10.480 a running back and a wide receiver both during his career, 4:23:10.600 --> 4:23:13.080 and so when the ball's thrown to his direction, he'll 4:23:13.120 --> 4:23:15.560 make some he'll make some place. I mean, he'll make 4:23:15.600 --> 4:23:17.240 some place that makes some catch. I thought he did 4:23:17.280 --> 4:23:19.560 a really good job of protecting the football. You don't 4:23:19.600 --> 4:23:21.360 see him put the ball on the ground. You know 4:23:21.440 --> 4:23:24.520 he's gonna run tough, he's gonna hold onto it. He's 4:23:24.560 --> 4:23:27.160 got some value as a kickoff return guy as well. 4:23:27.200 --> 4:23:29.480 I know that's something that's not really big and I 4:23:30.280 --> 4:23:32.280 just bring it up, but you know, because the special 4:23:32.320 --> 4:23:35.000 team's value. But in this day and age, with kickoff return, 4:23:35.040 --> 4:23:36.480 it's like they pump him out of the end zone. 4:23:36.480 --> 4:23:38.400 If if a guy is a punt returner, that kind 4:23:38.440 --> 4:23:40.960 of gets my attention right there. But this kid is 4:23:41.000 --> 4:23:43.520 a he's one of those guys. When he does see 4:23:43.600 --> 4:23:46.640 that opening boom, he's gonna hit it and he's gonna go. Man, 4:23:47.080 --> 4:23:49.720 once you get outside the tackles with him, he is 4:23:49.840 --> 4:23:52.200 as fun as they come on tape. I mean, seven 4:23:52.280 --> 4:23:56.320 yards per carry, eighteen touchdowns, I mean, and I think 4:23:56.400 --> 4:23:58.880 eight of those eighteen were outside of the tackles as well. 4:23:58.920 --> 4:24:01.080 By the way, just a stat that I think I 4:24:01.720 --> 4:24:04.560 saw on Pro Football Focus. It looks like credit excuse me. 4:24:04.880 --> 4:24:08.440 It looks like the Packers pick is in in the 4:24:08.560 --> 4:24:15.640 twenty twenty NFL Draft, Green Bay Packers slack Josiah tight ends. 4:24:18.000 --> 4:24:23.840 Interesting who had the Guara head of Troutman and Albertau 4:24:24.200 --> 4:24:27.840 and uh some of these other tight ends. That's that's surprising. 4:24:28.640 --> 4:24:30.440 You would have had me on that one for sure. Now, 4:24:30.600 --> 4:24:32.960 Deguara did have a really nice Senior Bowl week, and 4:24:33.040 --> 4:24:34.920 I even saw some of the notes that I wrote down. 4:24:34.960 --> 4:24:38.000 He made a couple of flashy plays in practice that 4:24:38.200 --> 4:24:40.160 kind of caught my eye, but overall as a player, 4:24:40.160 --> 4:24:42.880 I didn't have him even close to either of the 4:24:42.960 --> 4:24:45.400 Bryant and Bryant Law firm. Like Brian called it earlier. 4:24:45.400 --> 4:24:46.520 I thought that was a great way to put it, 4:24:46.640 --> 4:24:51.040 But I didn't have him anywhere close to those guys. Yeah, 4:24:51.120 --> 4:24:54.200 I was. This was I think that if you look 4:24:54.200 --> 4:24:55.880 at I'm trying to think of what would be his 4:24:56.760 --> 4:25:00.640 his best trait and probably his ability to catch the ball. 4:25:00.680 --> 4:25:03.040 I think that's something that I didn't see anything else 4:25:03.160 --> 4:25:05.520 that was really kind of just really stood out other 4:25:05.600 --> 4:25:08.080 than Okay, throw him the ball. He's pretty good at 4:25:08.360 --> 4:25:11.240 extending the hands, catching it on the move, getting up 4:25:11.280 --> 4:25:13.960 the field. But I would kind of see a guy 4:25:14.040 --> 4:25:17.720 that that that that's about his best ability of doing 4:25:17.760 --> 4:25:19.640 that is being able to catch the ball instead of 4:25:19.680 --> 4:25:23.800 being a run blocker. For say, now you got the 4:25:23.880 --> 4:25:27.840 Broncos up the Chiefs in the Browns or excuse me, 4:25:28.640 --> 4:25:30.800 yeah no, it would be the Browns next at ninety 4:25:30.880 --> 4:25:33.480 seven and ninety seven, by the way, is the first 4:25:33.560 --> 4:25:35.920 comp pick that we would have out of a string 4:25:36.000 --> 4:25:38.560 of them. There's ten comp picks to round out the 4:25:38.960 --> 4:25:42.200 one hundred and sixth overall selection. That right, now it 4:25:42.280 --> 4:25:45.480 belongs to the Ravens. So with the Broncos on the 4:25:45.600 --> 4:25:47.800 clock here, they've had a couple of picks go their 4:25:47.840 --> 4:25:50.960 way so far. Trying to look back as to who 4:25:51.080 --> 4:25:54.160 they have selected. And you go back up to the 4:25:54.240 --> 4:25:58.600 first round come away with Jerry Judy helped kind of 4:25:58.640 --> 4:26:00.680 open the door for Cede Land to the Cowboys. Then 4:26:00.680 --> 4:26:03.240 you get kJ Hamler, so they're going with that that 4:26:03.440 --> 4:26:06.520 extra wide receiver look much like the Las Vegas Raiders. 4:26:06.920 --> 4:26:09.880 And then they get Ojamodidiya or whatever you say his name, 4:26:09.960 --> 4:26:14.360 like the cornerback Iowa. Yeah, that guy, But what are 4:26:14.360 --> 4:26:16.640 you looking at here? Oh? They also got Lloyd Cushionberry 4:26:16.680 --> 4:26:19.360 from LSU to go into that as well. So maybe 4:26:19.440 --> 4:26:23.320 defensive line thinking about here for the Broncos. They haven't 4:26:23.320 --> 4:26:25.120 addressed that yet. That's the one need that I have 4:26:25.200 --> 4:26:27.880 written down for him that they haven't necessarily had a 4:26:28.040 --> 4:26:31.240 solid pick at here. James Lynch from Baylor surprised we 4:26:31.280 --> 4:26:33.600 haven't heard his name yet. I think teams are confused. 4:26:33.600 --> 4:26:36.760 Where the best play him is my problem three? Technique 4:26:36.840 --> 4:26:40.400 only can you play him an outside as a base end? 4:26:40.520 --> 4:26:43.640 He doesn't have great length, but hard to ignore the 4:26:43.720 --> 4:26:47.040 production that he put up. I mean it's the Panther 4:26:47.200 --> 4:26:51.800 stack him and Weaver. Yeah. Yeah, the Panthers have drafted 4:26:51.800 --> 4:26:55.000 a lot of defensive lineman. But if he falls any further, 4:26:55.160 --> 4:26:57.080 Matt Rule is going to make a play. Yeah, it 4:26:57.280 --> 4:26:59.720 has to. I mean this kids guy, Yeah, this is guy. 4:26:59.880 --> 4:27:02.000 I think the thing that's really nice about him is 4:27:02.080 --> 4:27:04.840 that you can't see him play as a wide technique, 4:27:05.240 --> 4:27:07.520 you know, as an edge rusher. He's got the great 4:27:07.560 --> 4:27:10.200 effort and those he'll finish some plays. I saw him 4:27:10.240 --> 4:27:12.000 get fooled a couple of times. I mean, I like 4:27:12.080 --> 4:27:13.760 the kid, and there's people saying, Okay, you could play 4:27:13.840 --> 4:27:15.920 him outside, you could play him inside, play him as 4:27:15.960 --> 4:27:17.840 a three technique, let him get up the field, use 4:27:17.880 --> 4:27:20.040 the quickness, you know. Just kind of one of those guys. 4:27:20.080 --> 4:27:22.160 He just keeps coming at you, you know, he is. 4:27:22.240 --> 4:27:25.120 There's a relentless type of to his game and effort 4:27:25.160 --> 4:27:28.360 and all that. So yeah, I mean I love players 4:27:28.440 --> 4:27:30.200 like that. Maybe I fall in love with players that 4:27:30.240 --> 4:27:32.720 I always see, and Gallimore was a guy. Should give 4:27:32.800 --> 4:27:35.000 him credit for the plays he was making running down 4:27:35.040 --> 4:27:37.800 the field and stuff like that. But I really did 4:27:37.960 --> 4:27:41.520 like James Lynch quite a bit. What about Foeto here 4:27:41.760 --> 4:27:44.240 for Denver. I mean, that's a guy who's still on 4:27:44.280 --> 4:27:46.280 the board that I know, Brian, you brought him up 4:27:46.320 --> 4:27:49.320 really early in the broadcast, but he's still on the 4:27:49.360 --> 4:27:51.000 board as a guy that could maybe come in and 4:27:51.040 --> 4:27:52.960 make Yeah. I know that was the Falcons. I was 4:27:53.040 --> 4:27:55.480 talking to those guys and there they kept you know, 4:27:55.520 --> 4:27:57.560 they kept cluing me in. I'm like, oh, we know what, 4:27:57.800 --> 4:27:59.840 we liked this Futo guy. We like him and I'm like, okay, 4:28:00.040 --> 4:28:02.160 watched him and stuff like that. But you know, then 4:28:02.200 --> 4:28:06.280 they made another pick. But yeah, I'm I've I've got 4:28:06.360 --> 4:28:08.240 other guys I think that I would I would take 4:28:08.480 --> 4:28:11.000 I like the Lawrence kid from Lshoe a little better 4:28:11.320 --> 4:28:13.560 at that's at that spy if you want to, if 4:28:13.600 --> 4:28:15.400 you want to, yeah I did. I did tell me. 4:28:16.000 --> 4:28:18.320 I mean, what do you do with him? You know, 4:28:18.440 --> 4:28:20.040 I've got a plane. I've got a plane as a 4:28:20.160 --> 4:28:23.000 as a defensive tackle, is what I do. You know, 4:28:23.120 --> 4:28:24.720 I think he could play. I think he could put 4:28:24.800 --> 4:28:27.120 him like as that, maybe as a one, a heavy one, 4:28:27.240 --> 4:28:29.280 or you could play him as the three. There's there's 4:28:29.360 --> 4:28:31.480 things you could when you watch him play. And by 4:28:31.520 --> 4:28:33.920 the way, the Denver Broncos picks in and we'll get 4:28:33.960 --> 4:28:37.320 back into it. Here's a Roger uh Roger Goodell with 4:28:37.440 --> 4:28:43.160 the with the Broncos pick twenty twenty NFL Draft, the 4:28:43.280 --> 4:28:49.320 Denver Broncos select Vic Telvin. A gene defensive tackles him Arkansas. 4:28:50.320 --> 4:28:53.360 M What got you to cuss there? Dave does Roger 4:28:53.520 --> 4:28:56.800 his feet kicked up. First of all, Oh yeah, he's yeah, 4:28:56.840 --> 4:29:00.360 he is big time done here in the nineties. He's 4:29:00.400 --> 4:29:03.040 throwing the cards on the ground after their pick. He's 4:29:03.080 --> 4:29:05.480 just taking me. He's like spinning him into the fireplace. 4:29:05.600 --> 4:29:08.120 Now picks up a glass of whiskey and then yeah, 4:29:09.080 --> 4:29:11.160 he's got a cigarette burning over in the corner. He 4:29:11.280 --> 4:29:14.440 got a nice book in between picks that he's reading. Anyway, 4:29:14.840 --> 4:29:17.920 who's up? Okay? Um? No, I just I mentioned this 4:29:18.040 --> 4:29:20.880 earlier with Neville Gallimore. It's it's the same thing. I 4:29:21.000 --> 4:29:23.600 just I love the way this whole process is so 4:29:23.760 --> 4:29:28.440 cyclical because McTelvin a game was a Shrine game. Guy, 4:29:28.680 --> 4:29:33.360 was he not down? Yes, he was good enough that 4:29:33.400 --> 4:29:35.200 he got the call up to the Senior Bowl and 4:29:35.440 --> 4:29:38.720 he he was on our flight to Mobile. And you know, 4:29:38.880 --> 4:29:41.120 anytime you see a football player in the airport you're 4:29:41.160 --> 4:29:43.200 kind of looking for. You're like, Okay, this guy's got 4:29:43.280 --> 4:29:45.560 a pig on his backpack. He went to Arkansas. What's 4:29:45.680 --> 4:29:48.640 what's this dude's deal? You figure out it's McTelvin. A game, 4:29:48.720 --> 4:29:51.720 he goes to the Senior Bowl, jumps up onto the radar, 4:29:51.840 --> 4:29:53.720 you know, his last second invite, had a really good 4:29:53.760 --> 4:29:56.080 week down there. And he's a guy that I would 4:29:56.120 --> 4:29:58.160 have been really happy to see the Cowboys pick. I 4:29:58.520 --> 4:30:01.360 said day three, which we're really close to day three, 4:30:01.480 --> 4:30:04.440 so that makes sense. And it's just cool, like you 4:30:04.520 --> 4:30:07.040 know he was. He made the best of a of 4:30:07.440 --> 4:30:10.160 a late time call up, and I'm happy for It's 4:30:10.200 --> 4:30:13.200 a pressure, Dave. You feel that pressure covering the Arkansas guys, right, 4:30:13.760 --> 4:30:16.360 you know, you know Steve and a Jerry. You got 4:30:16.440 --> 4:30:18.280 to kind of know those Arkansas guys. I have a 4:30:18.320 --> 4:30:21.320 background on him. Oh, Brian, you're smarter than that. The 4:30:21.400 --> 4:30:24.360 Cowboys don't actually ever draft Arkansas, but you got to 4:30:24.400 --> 4:30:27.040 know about those kids. This guy started forty forty games 4:30:27.080 --> 4:30:29.840 in his career. Think about that experienced. Yeah, he's got 4:30:29.920 --> 4:30:32.160 some athletic ability to him. He's got really good desire. 4:30:32.200 --> 4:30:34.800 I love the effort, the way he plays. The reason 4:30:34.840 --> 4:30:36.840 I watched him is because I kind of was getting 4:30:36.920 --> 4:30:38.800 us some hearing some whispered Oh, Kansas season on the clock. 4:30:38.880 --> 4:30:41.800 Let's go the commissioner real quick. Here with the ninety 4:30:41.840 --> 4:30:44.800 six pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Kansas 4:30:44.840 --> 4:30:54.120 City Chiefs like Lucas near tackle TCU Frogs, Lucas, Oh, 4:30:54.280 --> 4:30:57.040 go Frogs. I thought Jeff was yelling, we were robbed. 4:30:58.280 --> 4:31:01.640 I have to so I have to reach to the 4:31:01.760 --> 4:31:03.680 thing when that miss I had to get out of 4:31:03.720 --> 4:31:06.760 the chair and push just right. Games on fire right 4:31:06.840 --> 4:31:08.280 now from having to get up so many times, but 4:31:08.400 --> 4:31:11.960 just finish up with our Arkansas guy. I like the 4:31:12.040 --> 4:31:13.640 guy as far as you could watch him. A couple 4:31:13.640 --> 4:31:15.840 of games Kentucky Auburn. I thought he played pretty well 4:31:15.880 --> 4:31:17.800 in those games with the like to see him use 4:31:17.840 --> 4:31:19.840 his hands a little bit better. But there were some 4:31:19.920 --> 4:31:22.080 snaps where he just threw his shoulder in the blocker 4:31:22.120 --> 4:31:24.480 and went from there. But he's got some pop to 4:31:24.560 --> 4:31:27.080 his approach, and you know, I could see why somebody 4:31:27.200 --> 4:31:29.400 likes the kid great. The effort with him is really 4:31:29.440 --> 4:31:32.920 really good well, and I also I think during his 4:31:33.800 --> 4:31:36.120 time at the Senior Bowl, you also just kind of 4:31:36.120 --> 4:31:38.600 saw the effort, and I know there was a piece 4:31:38.640 --> 4:31:41.440 put out by the Dallas Cowboys dot com crew a 4:31:41.520 --> 4:31:44.000 little bit earlier this week, and even in those kind 4:31:44.040 --> 4:31:45.920 of it was a documentary behind the scenes of the 4:31:46.040 --> 4:31:48.880 draft process with the scouting department, and one of the 4:31:49.120 --> 4:31:51.480 clips they're actually talking about a game and what he's 4:31:51.520 --> 4:31:53.680 doing at the Senior Bowl, kind of talking about his 4:31:53.720 --> 4:31:56.080 technique and whatnot. So at least at one point the 4:31:56.120 --> 4:32:00.080 Cowboys scouting department at least caught the attention or at 4:32:00.120 --> 4:32:02.880 least a game caught the attention of the scouting department overall. 4:32:02.920 --> 4:32:06.800 But yes, Lucas Nange goes to the Kansas City Chiefs, 4:32:06.840 --> 4:32:09.240 they get some offensive line help. Is that just depth 4:32:09.560 --> 4:32:17.960 day in terms of there for Kansas City or his 4:32:18.000 --> 4:32:20.680 tackle actually a need there? No, I don't think it's 4:32:20.680 --> 4:32:23.680 a need with Fisher and Schwartz, but uh, you know, 4:32:23.720 --> 4:32:26.520 I think the value for the Chiefs became, you know, 4:32:26.560 --> 4:32:28.760 too much, and they didn't want to pass. He was 4:32:28.800 --> 4:32:31.600 a right tackle only at TCU. Maybe you look to 4:32:31.720 --> 4:32:34.720 move I mean six six through fifteen, maybe you'd try 4:32:34.800 --> 4:32:36.720 and movement inside to guards see what he can do. 4:32:37.520 --> 4:32:40.280 But this is a player where if he were fully healthy. 4:32:40.440 --> 4:32:42.480 I think he goes earlier than this, but he had 4:32:42.520 --> 4:32:45.920 a hip injury that he played with. He played through 4:32:46.000 --> 4:32:48.120 his entire for the first half of his senior year, 4:32:48.160 --> 4:32:50.800 and then he just you know, pain tolerance became too 4:32:50.920 --> 4:32:54.040 much and he missed the second half of the year, 4:32:54.160 --> 4:32:56.720 missed most of the pre draft process. If he can 4:32:56.760 --> 4:33:00.880 be more consistent with his footwork, with his landmarks, like, 4:33:01.000 --> 4:33:02.920 I like a lot of what he has to offer. 4:33:03.040 --> 4:33:05.960 So I like this as an upside pick for the Chiefs. 4:33:06.680 --> 4:33:11.400 Jacob Phillips, the linebacker from LSU, goes to the Cleveland Browns. 4:33:11.440 --> 4:33:15.640 We're now in the compensatory phase of the draft here, 4:33:15.720 --> 4:33:18.160 so David Hellman, give me a little scouting report on 4:33:18.280 --> 4:33:21.920 Jacob Phillips, the linebacker LSU. I just think he's a 4:33:22.919 --> 4:33:25.920 He is a steady player like nothing. I mean, he 4:33:26.000 --> 4:33:29.040 doesn't have the athleticism that's gonna wow you like Patrick Queen. 4:33:29.160 --> 4:33:32.160 That's why he's being drafted here. But he just produced 4:33:32.320 --> 4:33:34.560 for LSU. I mean, he tackles everything. He's got the 4:33:34.640 --> 4:33:39.080 athleticism to move side to side. He makes plays on 4:33:39.120 --> 4:33:41.000 the ball. I remember, Brian, we sat next to each 4:33:41.040 --> 4:33:43.120 other at at and T stadium and watched him pick 4:33:43.200 --> 4:33:48.960 six Miami. He's just a reliable guy, like I would 4:33:49.000 --> 4:33:51.520 have loved to draft this guy on Day three to 4:33:51.759 --> 4:33:54.560 be a you know, a fill in for my will 4:33:54.640 --> 4:33:56.840 in mic linebacker position. Yeah. That a matter of fact, 4:33:56.840 --> 4:34:00.280 they're showing that interception right now against Miami. The thing 4:34:00.400 --> 4:34:02.160 that bothered me, even though he had that pick six, 4:34:02.840 --> 4:34:04.880 I saw them take him off the field in some 4:34:05.040 --> 4:34:07.840 nickel situations. You know, it's like they it's like they 4:34:07.880 --> 4:34:10.360 weren't really sure about him. They were rotating guys in 4:34:10.480 --> 4:34:13.000 and out of there. But you're right, Dave, he'll step 4:34:13.160 --> 4:34:15.360 up and he will take on ball carriers and he 4:34:15.440 --> 4:34:18.000 will finish and he's not afraid to deliver a blow, 4:34:18.160 --> 4:34:21.120 be physical. But again, that get taking him off the field, 4:34:21.360 --> 4:34:25.680 especially here. That's I mean he's at a school like LSU, 4:34:25.840 --> 4:34:27.840 Like he could be the best player on the defense 4:34:28.000 --> 4:34:30.240 at a lot of schools, but not LSU. And I 4:34:30.320 --> 4:34:32.640 mean he got lost in the shuffle behind a lot 4:34:32.720 --> 4:34:34.960 of guys because they're they've got four and five star 4:34:35.040 --> 4:34:38.720 talents everywhere, which is you know, I wouldn't have I 4:34:38.759 --> 4:34:40.920 would not have drafted him any higher than this. But 4:34:41.080 --> 4:34:42.840 I just think he's I mean, I think he's gonna 4:34:42.840 --> 4:34:45.120 play in the NFL for a while, maybe not be 4:34:45.400 --> 4:34:48.600 a star, but just a solid, productive linebacker. Well, and 4:34:48.680 --> 4:34:51.440 I think kind of the fact that he's selected here, 4:34:51.840 --> 4:34:55.200 it kind of brings up the conversation of the linebacking group. Overall, 4:34:55.240 --> 4:34:57.560 there's only been a handful of linebackers even taken in 4:34:57.600 --> 4:34:59.399 the draft. You still got some good ones out there, 4:34:59.440 --> 4:35:02.960 like a Malie Harrison from Ohio State, Troy Die Oregon, 4:35:03.320 --> 4:35:05.840 Keem Davis Gaither who we continue to talk about here, 4:35:06.600 --> 4:35:09.120 Marcus Bailey from Purdue as a guy who right around 4:35:09.200 --> 4:35:11.440 this sweet spot of the fourth round. We've had conversations 4:35:11.440 --> 4:35:14.559 on the Draft show before. Over So, I still think 4:35:14.600 --> 4:35:17.360 there's a lot of linebackers that are taken or that 4:35:17.440 --> 4:35:19.440 are still on the board. Rather so the fact that 4:35:19.600 --> 4:35:24.040 he's I believe I have seven linebackers taken, so you 4:35:24.160 --> 4:35:27.600 have Phillips is the seventh. That's a pretty high token 4:35:27.680 --> 4:35:29.640 for a guy who, like you said, got kind of 4:35:29.680 --> 4:35:31.680 pushed back because of the success of a guy like 4:35:31.800 --> 4:35:35.840 Patrick Queen Well got Baltimore is on the clock. This 4:35:36.000 --> 4:35:39.320 was a pick that originally belonged to New England, though 4:35:39.400 --> 4:35:42.560 now the Ravens were waiting for them to hand their 4:35:42.640 --> 4:35:44.960 card in right now. So I feel like the Ravens 4:35:45.000 --> 4:35:47.320 have had always say this, the Ravens had a good draft. 4:35:47.600 --> 4:35:49.920 They just sit there and pick the pick players and 4:35:49.960 --> 4:35:52.040 they'd say fall to them, you know, and they get 4:35:52.040 --> 4:35:54.520 the Lamar Jackson at thirty two. Why does that make 4:35:54.600 --> 4:35:57.280 all so mad? Because they do the right thing? Do 4:35:57.440 --> 4:35:59.840 you wish your team did that? Yes, I admire it, 4:36:00.040 --> 4:36:02.200 and they're doing the Cowboys are doing it this year, 4:36:02.280 --> 4:36:04.880 so you know, it's cool. Just they do it a lot. 4:36:05.759 --> 4:36:10.200 The Ravens pick Patrick Queen, JK. Dobbins, yeah, Justin Metabek, 4:36:10.720 --> 4:36:13.560 Devin DuVernay. And they still need some defensive line help 4:36:13.640 --> 4:36:16.160 maybe defensive tackle or edge here. But that is a hell. 4:36:16.360 --> 4:36:18.800 It's a pretty good draft so far. And you're wondering 4:36:18.840 --> 4:36:20.640 why I was mad, Right, No, I'm not. But I 4:36:20.680 --> 4:36:24.360 mean it's they're like they don't move. It's not like 4:36:24.480 --> 4:36:27.680 they're in the damn NFC East. I mean, you get 4:36:27.680 --> 4:36:30.240 to see him firsthand next year, Dave. Yeah, we get 4:36:30.280 --> 4:36:32.080 you get to make a trip to Baltimore and hopefully 4:36:32.080 --> 4:36:34.079 they'll have the hope I'm gonna get to stay there 4:36:34.080 --> 4:36:38.160 at Camden Yards. I mean crab cakes. Yeah, watch some football. 4:36:38.360 --> 4:36:40.520 Such a lovely city. This is going to be a blast. 4:36:40.720 --> 4:36:42.600 Flip the lady in extra twenty Sh'll give you an 4:36:42.600 --> 4:36:45.160 extra crab cake, Dave. I'll do that, Brian, Yeah, I 4:36:45.280 --> 4:36:47.160 did it a couple of times. It works. How much 4:36:47.160 --> 4:36:49.400 of crab cakes twenty No, you get them free and 4:36:49.480 --> 4:36:51.320 you know in the media area, but they only give 4:36:51.320 --> 4:36:54.120 you one, so you Roger Goodell is gonna give me 4:36:54.160 --> 4:37:02.280 a pick with exues me In the twenty NFL Draft 4:37:02.480 --> 4:37:07.800 to Baltimore Ravens select Malie Harrison, line back Ohio State. 4:37:08.080 --> 4:37:14.560 You gotta be kidding me, Malie Harrison. Speaking of getting 4:37:14.600 --> 4:37:19.720 good players, I think Millie Harrison's arguably the best run 4:37:19.840 --> 4:37:24.040 defending linebacker in the draft. Um, and he wasn't asked 4:37:24.080 --> 4:37:26.120 to be in pass coverage all that much. But this 4:37:26.320 --> 4:37:28.520 is a pretty good athlete, so I think he can 4:37:28.640 --> 4:37:31.680 do it. But verse the run, he's really really good. 4:37:31.880 --> 4:37:35.120 And he's a high school quarterback. Wanted to play receiver 4:37:35.280 --> 4:37:37.520 when he went to Ohio State. They moved to linebacker. 4:37:37.919 --> 4:37:40.360 In every single year he got better and better and better. 4:37:41.000 --> 4:37:43.280 Surprised that he's the ninety eighth pick. I thought he'd 4:37:43.320 --> 4:37:46.399 go much higher than this, but typical Ravens fashion, they 4:37:46.520 --> 4:37:48.320 let a good player fall to them and they get him. 4:37:48.560 --> 4:37:50.120 I will say this, I just I mean, I just 4:37:50.240 --> 4:37:53.200 gave a nice scouting report of Jacob Phillips. I would 4:37:53.280 --> 4:37:55.600 draft this guy ahead of Jacob Phillips. Oh yeah, oh 4:37:55.680 --> 4:37:57.720 I would too. No, like, no question. I didn't even 4:37:58.080 --> 4:37:59.800 you know, we're so deep into this thing. I didn't 4:37:59.800 --> 4:38:02.600 even realized he was still on the board. Yeah. This, 4:38:02.759 --> 4:38:04.960 I mean, this feels like a steal, which again not 4:38:05.080 --> 4:38:07.360 a huge surprise for the Ravens. Well. And the thing 4:38:07.560 --> 4:38:09.600 is is, I brought his name up a little bit ago. 4:38:09.640 --> 4:38:12.200 I did, much like Kavanaugh did, and he kind of 4:38:12.240 --> 4:38:14.720 talked about a little earlier about doing the cheap and 4:38:14.840 --> 4:38:17.280 kind of lazy mock draft the night or the morning 4:38:17.320 --> 4:38:19.080 of the draft. He was the one that was there 4:38:19.520 --> 4:38:22.200 at ninety eight for my mock draft this morning, So 4:38:22.280 --> 4:38:23.919 that's why I brought his name up, kind of going 4:38:23.960 --> 4:38:26.640 along with Jacob Phillips going it kind of sparked the 4:38:26.720 --> 4:38:29.080 conversation of linebackers. I had no idea that even the 4:38:29.160 --> 4:38:32.960 Ravens were interested in a guy like Malie Harrison, but man, 4:38:33.160 --> 4:38:34.960 I love that pick for them. There, and now you 4:38:35.080 --> 4:38:37.400 move on to the Giants and then the Patriots, or 4:38:37.440 --> 4:38:39.920 excuse me, the Patriots have given up their one hundredth 4:38:39.960 --> 4:38:42.919 comp pick as well, because now Las Vegas has that selection, 4:38:43.400 --> 4:38:45.760 and so you've got the Giants and then the Raiders. 4:38:46.120 --> 4:38:48.120 Is this a spot maybe for the Giants to look 4:38:48.520 --> 4:38:51.720 at a tight end overall, because much like Brian was 4:38:51.759 --> 4:38:54.080 talking about earlier, there's a run of tight ends going 4:38:54.160 --> 4:38:56.960 and I think you look at the Giants that, even 4:38:57.000 --> 4:38:59.480 though they have Evan Ingram, they may want to look 4:38:59.520 --> 4:39:02.720 at a tight end here, maybe interior offensive line, because 4:39:02.759 --> 4:39:04.320 I know they've had some trouble there too. It's been 4:39:04.360 --> 4:39:06.719 a run on tight ends that probably shouldn't have been 4:39:06.759 --> 4:39:09.759 picked yet over tight ends that are still on the board. 4:39:09.840 --> 4:39:11.360 So if you want one hold on going to the 4:39:11.400 --> 4:39:15.759 podium in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New York 4:39:15.840 --> 4:39:23.759 Giants like Matt Parrot tackle University of Connecticut. Matt few parrot. 4:39:25.680 --> 4:39:30.400 Is it perfect parrot? It's parrot, It's what parrots? Parrot? Parrot? 4:39:30.759 --> 4:39:34.400 All right? Yeah, Roger had it right, job, Rodger, well done. 4:39:35.560 --> 4:39:39.240 Why is it a good Dane? Well? And it's a 4:39:39.280 --> 4:39:41.800 little bit of local flavor for him, grew up in 4:39:41.840 --> 4:39:44.760 the Bronx. Uh So he goes to the Giants and 4:39:45.880 --> 4:39:48.320 a player who I feel like I've said this a 4:39:48.360 --> 4:39:50.359 few times, but you have to play his best football. 4:39:50.720 --> 4:39:56.480 Huge size of frame, six six three eighteen thirty thirty 4:39:56.680 --> 4:40:01.960 six and five eighth inch arms, highlights. I mean, just silly. 4:40:02.800 --> 4:40:05.160 But you know he played left tackle and right tackle. 4:40:05.320 --> 4:40:09.320 He's still figuring out how to you know, how to 4:40:09.400 --> 4:40:11.760 answer a lot of the counters that rushers are gonna 4:40:11.800 --> 4:40:14.079 throw at him. But he moves well, he has length. 4:40:14.160 --> 4:40:16.320 I mean, that's he's a developmental tackle that in the 4:40:16.400 --> 4:40:19.079 third round. That's the type of guy you're looking for. Well, 4:40:19.200 --> 4:40:21.640 just to tie this back to the Cowboys, also Cam 4:40:21.680 --> 4:40:23.840 Fleming right now is listed as the right tackle, but 4:40:23.919 --> 4:40:26.040 they did take Andrew Thomas in the first round, a 4:40:26.200 --> 4:40:29.120 fourth overall, so this the second tackle that they've taken. 4:40:29.680 --> 4:40:32.360 Dane was prepared more of a left or a right 4:40:32.440 --> 4:40:34.440 tackle during his time at Yukon. He played well. I 4:40:34.640 --> 4:40:36.600 saw him on right. Well. It was weird because he 4:40:36.680 --> 4:40:39.120 played He started at left tackles first two years, then 4:40:39.120 --> 4:40:41.040 they moved in the right tackle for his final two 4:40:41.120 --> 4:40:44.240 years and I asked him why and he said, I 4:40:44.320 --> 4:40:46.320 don't know. Coaches just asked me too, so I did. 4:40:46.800 --> 4:40:49.200 I was like, okay, there you go. So he he 4:40:49.520 --> 4:40:51.120 he's shown that he can play both sides. That went 4:40:51.120 --> 4:40:52.760 back and looked at some of a sophomore film and 4:40:52.840 --> 4:40:54.520 it's not like he was abysmal there. He did a 4:40:54.600 --> 4:40:58.240 nice job. And you know, I talked to him about 4:40:58.280 --> 4:41:01.759 he was the last remaining member of that recruiting class 4:41:02.120 --> 4:41:05.800 from yukon twenty fifteen, and UH asked him, why why 4:41:05.880 --> 4:41:08.520 just stay? You could have transferred grad transfer and he said, 4:41:09.120 --> 4:41:11.239 you know, I'm a loyal guy. This is the program 4:41:11.400 --> 4:41:13.560 that believed in me, gave me a scholarship, so I 4:41:13.640 --> 4:41:17.280 want to pay that back. And just a really good person. 4:41:17.520 --> 4:41:20.520 And I really enjoyed talking to him. And actually I 4:41:20.640 --> 4:41:23.079 called his high school football coach to find out more 4:41:23.080 --> 4:41:25.600 about him, and he I couldn't get him off the 4:41:25.640 --> 4:41:28.440 phone because he kept raving about how impressive a young 4:41:28.520 --> 4:41:31.520 man he is. Tanner Muse is going to be the 4:41:31.600 --> 4:41:34.400 first Clemson safety off the board. Although do you guys 4:41:34.440 --> 4:41:39.320 thinker That's what I'm thinking. And this is a Raiders 4:41:39.360 --> 4:41:41.840 pick right, Oh yeah, Oh here's Mike Mayock again. I mean, 4:41:42.040 --> 4:41:45.160 great guy, but he's he's gonna take a guy from Clemson, Alabama, 4:41:45.280 --> 4:41:48.400 one of those places. So yeah, I mean winning doubt. Yeah, 4:41:48.640 --> 4:41:50.640 draft guys from the schools that go to the playoffs 4:41:50.680 --> 4:41:52.720 every year. The one thing that I noticed about this 4:41:52.800 --> 4:41:54.919 guy watched him on tape. He looks like he can 4:41:55.000 --> 4:42:02.040 really running him here. I'm with Dave Hellman live at 4:42:02.080 --> 4:42:03.440 the game, but I had to go back and watch 4:42:03.560 --> 4:42:07.000 the tape and this kid. They put him in coverage. 4:42:07.000 --> 4:42:09.680 Either they put him like uh Edwards Hilaire would go 4:42:09.720 --> 4:42:12.040 to the flat and he would run with him, or 4:42:12.080 --> 4:42:14.840 he would carry Moss inside. So they did him a 4:42:14.919 --> 4:42:18.160 couple of different Uh, put him in a couple different spots. Dan, 4:42:18.240 --> 4:42:20.400 this guy's a really good special teams player, isn't he? 4:42:20.720 --> 4:42:22.800 That's it? Yeah, exactly, he's gonna I think he's I 4:42:22.800 --> 4:42:25.079 don't know that he's Where's he gonna play on defense? 4:42:25.080 --> 4:42:27.399 I have my questions there. This is a Rich Bisaccia 4:42:27.480 --> 4:42:29.440 pick right here, right, He's gonna play ten years in 4:42:29.440 --> 4:42:31.800 the league because of special teams. But I I just 4:42:32.040 --> 4:42:36.960 I question, uh with the rare Jets and Patriots trade. Uh. 4:42:38.200 --> 4:42:40.320 But yeah, the Tanner muse four four one speed to 4:42:40.480 --> 4:42:42.560 his size, he was a big time baseball player in 4:42:42.640 --> 4:42:45.640 high school. He is going to be a special team's 4:42:45.759 --> 4:42:49.160 demon for a lot of years in this league. And 4:42:49.280 --> 4:42:51.520 you just mentioned the Jets in the Patriots trading. I 4:42:51.600 --> 4:42:56.280 thought Seattle had one on one. Yeah, it looks like Seattle. 4:42:56.280 --> 4:42:58.640 It says New England's pick is in here? Are he not? 4:42:58.840 --> 4:43:02.120 Still on one hundred? Am I behind on one on 4:43:02.240 --> 4:43:04.840 one day? Damn it? Come on? Where'd you go? Dave? 4:43:05.000 --> 4:43:07.040 I'm losing. I'm losing my mind. That's what's going on 4:43:07.120 --> 4:43:10.680 the whole Another day tomorrow, Dave. Four more rounds left? No, No, 4:43:10.800 --> 4:43:14.120 I'm up to date, like this was the last A 4:43:14.120 --> 4:43:16.760 Blue Cup tomorrow is not a problem. Guys, you know 4:43:16.840 --> 4:43:18.760 how to say this. Hey Dane, what do you think? 4:43:19.360 --> 4:43:23.359 That's what happens on day three? There's water in the cup? Spicy? 4:43:23.480 --> 4:43:26.840 What I did? My uh no, my spreadsheet was just off. 4:43:27.040 --> 4:43:32.399 He's some Miller white right behind you. One wrong, all wrong? Okay, 4:43:32.560 --> 4:43:35.079 just remember that. I freaking hate you. May By the way, 4:43:35.080 --> 4:43:36.600 did you get the speech before the start of the 4:43:36.680 --> 4:43:39.640 draft yesterday? No? I didn't. I did. Didn't go with 4:43:39.720 --> 4:43:42.280 these of the times to try. We threw out, we 4:43:42.400 --> 4:43:44.640 threw out some Thomas Paine. We didn't do that. You didn't. 4:43:44.759 --> 4:43:46.560 We didn't do the never had so many oaths, so 4:43:46.720 --> 4:43:49.200 much to so few Me and me and Dane basically 4:43:49.280 --> 4:43:51.920 just made fun of how melodramatic you are. That's basically 4:43:52.040 --> 4:43:54.600 what happened. Cal. I'm a little disappointed in you didn't 4:43:54.640 --> 4:43:56.640 carry on that tradition. Is there is there a speech 4:43:56.640 --> 4:43:59.120 you want to give as we head into the start? 4:43:59.360 --> 4:44:01.920 There was such addition. And also Dave showed up yesterday 4:44:01.960 --> 4:44:09.960 with a tie tie tie? Dane should Dane? Did you 4:44:10.040 --> 4:44:13.000 not wear a tie? Dane asked me. Dan asked me 4:44:13.080 --> 4:44:14.480 what we should wear, and I told him to do 4:44:14.560 --> 4:44:16.759 what he wanted. It's so blame Hellman for the lack 4:44:16.840 --> 4:44:20.840 of tradition. A selfish guy. Y'all are your own men, 4:44:21.160 --> 4:44:25.039 y'all are grown ups. Whatever. Since Dane moved, Brian's right, 4:44:25.600 --> 4:44:29.480 he's really been about his family. Not cool kind of 4:44:29.560 --> 4:44:33.080 person is that? Yeah? Oh me? The fun we have 4:44:33.160 --> 4:44:38.120 at the draft, questions football character, the question why even 4:44:38.160 --> 4:44:40.640 came back. I feel like Brian would if he were scouting, 4:44:40.720 --> 4:44:42.520 he'd be like this guy's got two kids. He loves 4:44:42.600 --> 4:44:46.600 him so much. He's not really into football now, Dan, 4:44:46.680 --> 4:44:48.960 I do want to apologize because it was New It 4:44:49.200 --> 4:44:52.919 was New York that traded to New England, because New 4:44:53.000 --> 4:44:55.080 England had one hundred, but they gave that to the 4:44:55.200 --> 4:44:58.720 Raiders and now they get back up to one. So 4:44:59.320 --> 4:45:01.320 I don't know it's New England. But yeah, I was 4:45:01.400 --> 4:45:04.480 confused by the original saying. But Dane, of course, as always, 4:45:04.640 --> 4:45:07.200 was correct and one hundred percent certain that it was 4:45:07.320 --> 4:45:10.400 a rare New England New York trade between the Jets 4:45:10.440 --> 4:45:12.960 and the Patriots, and that's why the Patriots are actually 4:45:12.960 --> 4:45:17.160 on the clock here. Anthony Jennings Devin ASSISI two guys 4:45:17.240 --> 4:45:19.680 that they've already selected. Yeah, picked the most random guy 4:45:19.759 --> 4:45:21.680 on your board, and that's who they're gonna take. Could 4:45:21.720 --> 4:45:25.040 they go tight end again? Man? Yes, yeah, that would 4:45:25.040 --> 4:45:29.720 be such a problem. Take my guy Harris, and that's 4:45:29.800 --> 4:45:33.640 kind of what I would think. That's my guy Troutman. Yeah, 4:45:33.720 --> 4:45:36.600 Troutman would be a yeah, that would be good. I mean, 4:45:36.640 --> 4:45:40.000 I tuts my next best guy, Hunter, I mean Hunter 4:45:40.120 --> 4:45:43.320 Bryant too at Washington. Washington's a good player. I do. 4:45:43.720 --> 4:45:46.040 I do kind of like Hunter Bryant. He's fun. Could 4:45:46.120 --> 4:45:51.360 this be for a quarterback? Oh? Man, let's find about 4:45:51.400 --> 4:45:59.559 that because it's good value, fake fake out from Rod. 4:46:00.400 --> 4:46:03.000 But Rogers is talking to random Yeah, he says, on 4:46:03.360 --> 4:46:07.160 zoom with people or something. But how certain are they 4:46:07.240 --> 4:46:09.520 in Jared Stidham and the fact that nobody's taking a 4:46:09.640 --> 4:46:11.760 quarterback in a while. It seems like that take his 4:46:11.840 --> 4:46:14.440 kind of do. Here, Belichick is eight steps ahead. He 4:46:14.480 --> 4:46:17.040 doesn't really believe in Stidham. He believes Stidham can go 4:46:17.120 --> 4:46:18.879 one in fifteen, and he believes he can win eight 4:46:18.960 --> 4:46:22.360 Super Bowls with Trevor Lawrence. We love that he's sitting 4:46:22.400 --> 4:46:25.360 at this dining room table with him. I mean, I've 4:46:25.400 --> 4:46:27.200 got a better set up than the greatest coach of 4:46:27.280 --> 4:46:29.520 all time. He looks like he's doing homework. Did you 4:46:29.560 --> 4:46:31.800 see he had the dog like, oh yeah, yeah, like 4:46:31.919 --> 4:46:34.039 his GM is working. He and the dog is at 4:46:34.080 --> 4:46:36.800 the chair like looking at the computer. Belichick. Yeah, Well, 4:46:36.800 --> 4:46:39.720 that's the difference between Belichick and Kingsbury. You know, Kingsbury 4:46:39.800 --> 4:46:41.720 gets caught up and having a fire lit in a 4:46:42.000 --> 4:46:45.360 courtyard that you're not even at. Belichick believes in working. 4:46:45.440 --> 4:46:47.400 I think that looked like the lobby of a hotel 4:46:47.560 --> 4:46:49.840 more so than somebody. So here we go a at 4:46:49.880 --> 4:46:52.840 the table. Bill's waiting on a biscuits, a gravy to 4:46:52.919 --> 4:46:54.800 show up or something like that. Great if you had 4:46:54.840 --> 4:46:56.840 breakfast for dinner and it was sitting right there at 4:46:56.880 --> 4:47:02.120 the waffle house hanging out hungry me too. Okay, we 4:47:02.200 --> 4:47:04.559 talked about quarterback here, right, it's just somebody to throw 4:47:04.640 --> 4:47:07.720 that out. We just do it. Mentioned we mentioned it. 4:47:08.040 --> 4:47:11.000 Here's the commissioner tell us the hundred first pick to 4:47:11.120 --> 4:47:15.040 the New England Patriots. With the hundred first pick in 4:47:15.160 --> 4:47:21.040 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Patriots like Dalton teen tight 4:47:21.200 --> 4:47:26.640 end right sleeper, tight end at all to get tight 4:47:26.759 --> 4:47:29.240 ends rolling down the board. Okay, heard a lot of 4:47:29.320 --> 4:47:31.800 people really high on him, even though he doesn't get 4:47:31.840 --> 4:47:34.640 a lot of shine. I like the number twenty nine. 4:47:35.759 --> 4:47:37.600 But there wasn't a lot to watch this year in 4:47:37.720 --> 4:47:40.040 Virginia Tech. But he was one of the few guys 4:47:40.200 --> 4:47:44.120 and they just barely used him. I mean he was. Uh. 4:47:44.640 --> 4:47:46.879 You look at his production. It doesn't get you excited. 4:47:47.000 --> 4:47:49.000 But when he had a chance, he made the most 4:47:49.080 --> 4:47:51.560 of it. So uh. And you gotta love a guy 4:47:51.600 --> 4:47:55.000 whose nickname is Rambo. So did you see his picture there? 4:47:55.400 --> 4:47:57.520 He had he had the stringing. He looked like a Rambo. 4:47:58.160 --> 4:48:01.400 He did here you go. Yeah, thanks. His dad was 4:48:01.880 --> 4:48:04.400 a former offensive lineman, so he's got that in his DNA, 4:48:04.680 --> 4:48:06.759 and uh, there's a lot to like about him as 4:48:07.000 --> 4:48:08.680 and he goes to a good fit with the with 4:48:08.759 --> 4:48:11.759 the Patriots, who will know how to use him along 4:48:11.800 --> 4:48:14.079 with Devin Assissi. At the same time, I was gonna say, 4:48:14.080 --> 4:48:16.280 it's a very Patriots thing to just draft two at 4:48:16.280 --> 4:48:18.560 the same time, well, listen, when you don't have one 4:48:19.120 --> 4:48:21.600 draft a bunch, especially if you're talking about the end 4:48:21.640 --> 4:48:23.199 of the third round through the end of the draft, 4:48:23.360 --> 4:48:25.160 just pick four of them and hope that you hit 4:48:25.240 --> 4:48:26.879 on one or something. I mean, don't didn't they come 4:48:26.880 --> 4:48:29.240 into this draft and into today with like twelve picks. 4:48:30.600 --> 4:48:32.360 It was it was quite a few. I mean they 4:48:32.480 --> 4:48:34.720 got there. They're they're owning this round right now. It 4:48:34.720 --> 4:48:36.960 looks like they got you know, with the It's funny 4:48:36.960 --> 4:48:39.680 about the Patriots though again they're teamed to draft. They 4:48:39.720 --> 4:48:41.800 don't care. They just don't. They don't care. They're just 4:48:41.840 --> 4:48:44.240 gonna do what they have to do. But it's it's 4:48:44.400 --> 4:48:46.200 it makes me now think of, Okay, what did did 4:48:46.200 --> 4:48:48.600 I miss somethone Troutman, did I miss something on these 4:48:48.680 --> 4:48:51.600 Bryant guys. I miss something on Pinckney. Did I miss 4:48:51.680 --> 4:48:55.120 something on Albert? Oh? You know? I mean, I mean, 4:48:55.680 --> 4:48:58.160 is it are these just now instead of third round guys? 4:48:58.200 --> 4:49:00.640 Are the fourth round guys or the fifth round eyes? Yeah, 4:49:00.800 --> 4:49:02.920 that's the thing. That's the thing if Pittsburgh Steelers picks. 4:49:02.960 --> 4:49:04.920 And we haven't gone to the commissioner yet, but it 4:49:05.080 --> 4:49:06.800 just makes me think. Now when I when I look 4:49:06.800 --> 4:49:08.320 at this guy tonight, I'll sit down and look at 4:49:08.360 --> 4:49:10.800 this board again to get ready for tomorrow, and I'll 4:49:10.840 --> 4:49:14.400 have five tight ends that'll be you know, next available guy. 4:49:14.440 --> 4:49:18.120 Here's here's the Steelers pick with the one second thick 4:49:18.280 --> 4:49:23.960 in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers select Alex Highsmith, 4:49:24.640 --> 4:49:29.800 linebacker Charlotte. I like that pick a lot. Actually ESPN 4:49:29.960 --> 4:49:33.000 tipped that pick. They showed Alex hi Smith. They showed 4:49:33.080 --> 4:49:39.040 his little package before like two minutes ago. Oh stop it, Cavanaugh, 4:49:39.120 --> 4:49:45.520 come on. They showed his graphic God, the graphics. Oh okay, okay, 4:49:45.640 --> 4:49:51.200 do you guys, you guys suck man? Alex Highsmith, good player? 4:49:51.640 --> 4:49:55.040 Um And like, hey, if Dabbos Sweeney calls you the 4:49:55.080 --> 4:49:58.120 best player we've seen all year. That's pretty good and 4:49:58.240 --> 4:50:01.600 that's what that Bosweeney did with that. After they played 4:50:01.680 --> 4:50:03.520 Charlotte and it wasn't much of a contest, But Alex 4:50:03.600 --> 4:50:07.680 Highsmith as a really talented guy, and he really wasn't 4:50:07.720 --> 4:50:10.239 on the radar because he was more of an interior 4:50:10.320 --> 4:50:12.399 player the way they the way they lined him up. 4:50:12.440 --> 4:50:14.960 But new coaching staff comes in, they put him outside, 4:50:15.040 --> 4:50:17.400 let him just pin his ears back and go and 4:50:17.880 --> 4:50:21.040 he was one of the most productive backfield guys this year. 4:50:22.040 --> 4:50:24.080 He was top five in the FBS and tackles for 4:50:24.200 --> 4:50:27.240 loss and sacks. So you don't do that without having 4:50:27.280 --> 4:50:29.720 a little bit of juice to rush off the edge. Yeah, 4:50:29.759 --> 4:50:32.040 the best film to watch with him was that Clemson tape. 4:50:32.040 --> 4:50:34.800 You're right, Dane and this guy, I mean, he is 4:50:35.000 --> 4:50:38.040 I don't think he has that start stop quickness, but 4:50:38.240 --> 4:50:40.120 once he does get you know, the quickness is good, 4:50:40.160 --> 4:50:41.840 but it's not that stuck when if you kind of 4:50:41.880 --> 4:50:43.400 if you could hold him. At Clemson, we're kind of 4:50:43.440 --> 4:50:45.400 bumping him around a little bit, and you know he 4:50:45.560 --> 4:50:46.800 was he was having a little bit of trouble to 4:50:46.840 --> 4:50:49.440 get going again. But I'll tell you what though made 4:50:49.560 --> 4:50:51.919 he is one of those guys that when he could 4:50:51.960 --> 4:50:54.120 work to the inside or he could play on the move, 4:50:54.680 --> 4:50:57.160 that's where that's where I think he does some good. 4:50:57.200 --> 4:50:59.200 He does have some pass rush moves. I think his 4:50:59.280 --> 4:51:01.640 techniques need to get a little bit better. But but 4:51:01.720 --> 4:51:04.040 I felt like though overall though, there's a lot to 4:51:04.120 --> 4:51:06.840 work with him when it comes to the type of 4:51:06.919 --> 4:51:09.759 player he is. I think the strength needs to improve 4:51:09.800 --> 4:51:12.399 a little bit though with him. But you're right Van 4:51:12.440 --> 4:51:14.720 about watching the Clemson tape. That's at least gives you 4:51:14.720 --> 4:51:16.960 an idea of some of the type of competition will 4:51:17.000 --> 4:51:19.919 have to play. And I like stories like that as well. 4:51:20.000 --> 4:51:22.600 With whenever you talk about a guy who walked on 4:51:23.120 --> 4:51:26.000 at Charlotte, a Conference USA school and he was a 4:51:26.120 --> 4:51:28.880 walk on because he didn't receive any FBS offers, and 4:51:29.040 --> 4:51:30.880 he goes on Day two of the NFL Draft. That's 4:51:30.880 --> 4:51:33.760 a cool story for anybody out there, and it just 4:51:33.960 --> 4:51:39.160 kind of a personal aspect of it. You're gonna be 4:51:39.200 --> 4:51:44.240 okay because Team Davis Gaither's still on the board. Davion Taylor, 4:51:44.320 --> 4:51:47.680 the Colorado linebacker who played a grand total of one 4:51:47.800 --> 4:51:52.079 high school football games. The Scouting Report six foot, two 4:51:52.200 --> 4:51:54.399 hundred and twenty eight runs like the wind. You can 4:51:54.480 --> 4:51:56.719 tell that he hasn't played a ton of football because 4:51:56.800 --> 4:52:00.680 you can see that the keys and the reading isn't 4:52:00.759 --> 4:52:02.840 always what you would want it to be. But when 4:52:02.880 --> 4:52:05.239 he gets it right, holy cow, he can get aggressive. 4:52:05.320 --> 4:52:07.800 He can fly sideline the sideline. He's a four four guy. 4:52:07.880 --> 4:52:10.919 I think dave On Taylor is my favorite developmental linebacker 4:52:10.960 --> 4:52:13.800 in this class. I love him. I love him, and 4:52:13.960 --> 4:52:16.400 he's gone. I'll tell you what. You know this this guy, 4:52:16.880 --> 4:52:19.440 Jeff's right about him. It's funny. They play him like 4:52:19.640 --> 4:52:22.000 wide and kind of detached. They'll play him in the slide. 4:52:22.000 --> 4:52:24.680 Was watching the Nebraska game and he'll cover in the slot. 4:52:24.759 --> 4:52:27.960 He can cover some ground though too. When he's got 4:52:28.080 --> 4:52:31.200 legit speed, he really attacks the ball when given the opportunity. 4:52:31.759 --> 4:52:33.640 Uh you know, I think he's a good tackler when 4:52:33.640 --> 4:52:35.280 he gets the chance to bring the guy down there. 4:52:35.360 --> 4:52:37.920 There's some he'll put his body in some crazy positions 4:52:38.000 --> 4:52:40.440 to make tackles. I thought he needed maybe a little 4:52:40.440 --> 4:52:43.160 bit balanced, a bit of balance and body control. But man, 4:52:43.240 --> 4:52:45.800 I'll tell you what, though, there's there's some times out 4:52:45.800 --> 4:52:48.280 there where he didn't know what he's doing. You can 4:52:48.320 --> 4:52:50.760 watch him and you're like, you're like, man, he's like 4:52:50.840 --> 4:52:52.880 he's kind of looking around and he's like, oh, I 4:52:52.960 --> 4:52:54.880 need to get the ball. He's running to get the ball. 4:52:55.000 --> 4:52:58.080 But yeah, there's a he's like, Muse is going to 4:52:58.120 --> 4:53:00.640 be a special teams guy initially. This this guy's the 4:53:00.720 --> 4:53:03.480 same way. I mean, check checked the special team snaps 4:53:03.480 --> 4:53:05.400 for this cat. He ran a four four nine at 4:53:05.440 --> 4:53:08.640 the combine. Then he ran a four three. Yeah, so 4:53:08.919 --> 4:53:12.120 yeah it actually happened. Yeah, absolutely, And one of the 4:53:12.200 --> 4:53:16.239 best stories. Didn't play in high school because of religious reasons, 4:53:16.360 --> 4:53:20.919 so you know, it's just fascinating the path that he took. Um, 4:53:21.320 --> 4:53:23.280 he practiced, he was part of the team, just never 4:53:23.320 --> 4:53:25.640 played in a game. He played in one game, and 4:53:25.680 --> 4:53:27.840 it's because they started early enough on a Friday, but 4:53:28.560 --> 4:53:31.760 went to Juco route went then went to Colorado. But 4:53:31.840 --> 4:53:33.879 like you said, a player where you can tell he's 4:53:33.919 --> 4:53:36.680 inexperience with the way he plays. The instincts aren't quite 4:53:36.720 --> 4:53:39.440 there yet, but the speed sure is. And he ran 4:53:39.520 --> 4:53:42.920 track at Colorado. So not surprised to see him go 4:53:42.960 --> 4:53:45.360 at this point a third round rams at one oh four. 4:53:46.360 --> 4:53:53.880 Take Terrell bone, no, Utah, it's kind of crazy that 4:53:53.960 --> 4:53:56.240 he lasted all the way to one oh four. We 4:53:56.320 --> 4:53:58.600 need to figure that out. Boys, That's all right, Well 4:53:58.640 --> 4:54:00.200 we need to figure out is what's going on with 4:54:00.280 --> 4:54:02.400 a Keem Davis Gaither and hope it keeps going on 4:54:02.600 --> 4:54:05.840 for about twenty more picks, twenty to twenty five more pick. Well, 4:54:05.880 --> 4:54:07.800 you only got two left in the round, and you 4:54:07.919 --> 4:54:13.120 still got Curtis Weaver on the board, still got all 4:54:13.160 --> 4:54:15.480 the quarterbacks, Lewis, if you want to take an injury 4:54:15.560 --> 4:54:18.120 risk in the fourth round, I know we don't. We 4:54:18.160 --> 4:54:19.920 haven't talked a lot of tackles, at least since the 4:54:20.040 --> 4:54:22.480 first But what about Prince Tega here? I mean, Prince 4:54:22.520 --> 4:54:24.800 Tega has been on the board for quite a while. 4:54:24.960 --> 4:54:27.560 I actually liked the Charles kid from Lshoe a little bit. 4:54:27.800 --> 4:54:30.960 And that's not because it's my school. Damn, the Kansas Kid. 4:54:31.000 --> 4:54:34.440 How do you pronounced the Kansas Kid's last name? Identity? Yeah, 4:54:34.480 --> 4:54:37.800 I have Charles the Prince and identity kind of in 4:54:37.880 --> 4:54:40.040 that little pocket. Prince is a real prince. He is 4:54:40.040 --> 4:54:42.960 a real prince. Yeah yeah, But I mean I kind 4:54:43.000 --> 4:54:45.200 of got all those guys in that in that fourth 4:54:45.320 --> 4:54:47.720 round pocket there, guys, is where I'm looking at those Cats. 4:54:48.000 --> 4:54:50.920 I'm curious about Charles. Uh you know he was in 4:54:51.080 --> 4:54:53.640 Oh yeah, more you dig the worst you got, And 4:54:53.919 --> 4:54:57.880 I just I don't know this, but I wonder if 4:54:57.919 --> 4:55:00.720 we're gonna be sitting here tomorrow saying, oh man, he's 4:55:00.720 --> 4:55:03.960 still there, He's still there. I wonder why. So yeah, 4:55:04.000 --> 4:55:06.719 I don't think we wonder why. No, Well, you're you're right, 4:55:06.840 --> 4:55:09.960 you're right, we know and we know why. Yeah. But 4:55:10.120 --> 4:55:13.000 I think you know, every year there's a guy who 4:55:13.160 --> 4:55:15.480 is the best available for like two hours. You know 4:55:15.560 --> 4:55:17.360 it was, I mean it was probably just Terrell Burgess 4:55:17.480 --> 4:55:20.520 just now, and I think you know, Sadiq Charles could 4:55:20.560 --> 4:55:24.280 be that guy tomorrow. One thing that is pretty uh, 4:55:25.680 --> 4:55:29.560 pretty encouraging in terms of some of these uh these 4:55:29.640 --> 4:55:32.160 picks laid in this round. There's a lot of interior 4:55:32.280 --> 4:55:34.720 offensive line talent that's gonna be there in the fourth 4:55:34.840 --> 4:55:38.280 round if the Cowboys want to address that position, I 4:55:38.360 --> 4:55:40.360 mean before the I mean we got two picks left, 4:55:41.080 --> 4:55:43.400 do we kind of want to reset our expectations for 4:55:43.480 --> 4:55:45.400 what we're looking at a pick one twenty three. I 4:55:45.440 --> 4:55:48.000 think that's a good idea, like to trade back into 4:55:48.080 --> 4:55:52.640 one oh five or one oh six, just make it interesting. Yeah, 4:55:52.720 --> 4:55:55.000 the Saints have got The Saints just did that. Yeah, yeah, 4:55:55.080 --> 4:55:57.560 the Saints are back into this thing. Go get a 4:55:57.640 --> 4:56:00.520 Keem Davis Gaither, thank you. I don't think it would 4:56:00.520 --> 4:56:02.440 be a linebacker. I think it would be a tight end. 4:56:02.800 --> 4:56:04.759 Why why would you not try and go get one 4:56:04.759 --> 4:56:07.320 of those guys? I don't know if it's it's one 4:56:07.360 --> 4:56:10.960 of the Bryants or if it's uh An Albert o'quebanam, 4:56:11.240 --> 4:56:14.640 it doesn't matter who. Why would you not try and 4:56:14.759 --> 4:56:20.160 hang out? Vikings have traded the one fifth pick to 4:56:20.280 --> 4:56:23.800 the New Orleans Saint. With the one hundred and fifth 4:56:23.880 --> 4:56:27.720 pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New Orleans 4:56:27.800 --> 4:56:32.800 Saints select Adam Troutman tight end day Grol Kyle. I 4:56:32.919 --> 4:56:35.240 didn't know that, I promise. I was just trying to 4:56:35.240 --> 4:56:37.880 bring up a talking point. Sure you didn't. I didn't 4:56:38.600 --> 4:56:41.360 all have on my screen. We all have Twitter. My 4:56:41.480 --> 4:56:44.280 Twitter's not up, I promise. Oh you're a liar. I'm not, 4:56:44.960 --> 4:56:47.280 but early, I was trying to bring it up. Let's 4:56:47.280 --> 4:56:49.520 go something real quick. This was Dane Brugler's number one 4:56:49.600 --> 4:56:54.000 tight end, Dane firemout uh a guy, there's a quarterback. 4:56:54.080 --> 4:56:55.840 His entire life, and then he goes to Dayton and 4:56:55.960 --> 4:56:58.120 he says, hey, I just want to play, so let 4:56:58.160 --> 4:57:01.520 me move to tight end. First time he ever caught 4:57:01.560 --> 4:57:03.520 a pass as the ret refreshman was the first time 4:57:03.560 --> 4:57:04.840 in his life he ever caught a pass in a 4:57:04.880 --> 4:57:08.960 football game. So I'm surprised he's lasted outside the top 4:57:09.000 --> 4:57:12.440 one hundred picks. But the competitiveness that he offers. Not 4:57:13.000 --> 4:57:16.200 a speed guy, but you see the route running, you 4:57:16.280 --> 4:57:18.680 see a guy that's able to attack the catch point. 4:57:19.120 --> 4:57:21.280 And what I loved most after I got done talking 4:57:21.360 --> 4:57:24.399 with him, was just the competitiveness that he has. I mean, 4:57:24.480 --> 4:57:27.520 he is a guy that has driven and so typical. 4:57:27.800 --> 4:57:29.760 You know, we've mentioned this with the Ravens and with 4:57:29.840 --> 4:57:32.640 some other teams, but the Saints seemed to find really 4:57:32.720 --> 4:57:36.079 good players in rounds two, three, and four, and they 4:57:36.160 --> 4:57:40.000 did it again. Here. You see an opportunity, you go 4:57:40.120 --> 4:57:41.520 up and try and grab a guy that could help 4:57:41.560 --> 4:57:44.640 you out, and the Saints needed to tie end. Yeah, 4:57:44.720 --> 4:57:47.120 that and that I just wondered. I thought this run 4:57:47.200 --> 4:57:49.600 would come a lot earlier. With these sides. There's a 4:57:49.680 --> 4:57:52.320 couple that have just flat that I I didn't think 4:57:52.360 --> 4:57:53.919 we're as good as the guys were. You know, we're 4:57:53.960 --> 4:57:56.640 talking about with like I said, we mentioned Troutman, the 4:57:56.800 --> 4:58:00.360 two Bryants, Albertau. I just you know, the hot Hopkins 4:58:00.480 --> 4:58:03.640 kid is another guy, Parkinson from Stanford. I mean, there's 4:58:03.640 --> 4:58:07.440 just a pocket of guys there that are really, really 4:58:07.520 --> 4:58:10.160 good players, and it's just it's surprising me that it 4:58:10.320 --> 4:58:13.680 took this long for for Troutman to go and real quick. 4:58:13.960 --> 4:58:15.840 You know, since we were taught, did you you guys 4:58:15.880 --> 4:58:19.400 see the terms of this thing, this trade? So we 4:58:19.520 --> 4:58:21.039 were talking about, you know, if you want to get 4:58:21.120 --> 4:58:23.040 back in there, Jeff, be careful what you wish for. 4:58:23.200 --> 4:58:25.960 Because the Saints needed four picks to get this done. 4:58:26.080 --> 4:58:29.560 They gave up one thirty one, thirty one, sixty nine, 4:58:29.680 --> 4:58:32.120 two oh three, and two forty four. So I don't 4:58:32.120 --> 4:58:35.000 know the Saints whole draft, but that's I mean, it 4:58:35.280 --> 4:58:37.600 sounds like they're done picking to get this guy. So 4:58:38.400 --> 4:58:40.759 I mean, if if you wanted to go get your linebacker, 4:58:41.520 --> 4:58:43.680 you probably have to give up everything you've got tomorrow 4:58:43.720 --> 4:58:45.320 to do. We just hang out see if that was 4:58:45.400 --> 4:58:48.880 to us, and then we use quality over quantity. I 4:58:49.000 --> 4:58:51.040 think they are done. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it. 4:58:51.600 --> 4:58:53.320 I don't hate. I mean, if the Saints feel like 4:58:53.400 --> 4:58:55.480 that's their guy, I don't hate the decision, because what 4:58:55.600 --> 4:58:57.400 are the odds you're gonna just hit home runs with 4:58:57.440 --> 4:59:02.400 those pass organizations? Done it before, right, Yeah? Just go yeah? Well, 4:59:02.640 --> 4:59:05.400 oh god, the Ricky Williams trade and getting address or whatever. 4:59:05.440 --> 4:59:08.560 Which one word dress was it Ricky or yeah, ricky 4:59:08.600 --> 4:59:11.800 word dress. If you feel like he's the guy, I say, 4:59:11.880 --> 4:59:14.080 do it, as long as you're comfortable being done for 4:59:14.160 --> 4:59:18.760 the weekend. Well, they've traded next year's one before to 4:59:18.840 --> 4:59:21.200 do stuff. You know, the Saints, they're not afraid to trade. 4:59:23.120 --> 4:59:25.280 The Saints are in a unique spot where they are 4:59:25.400 --> 4:59:27.960 really I mean, it's it's it's now. Should have been 4:59:27.960 --> 4:59:29.600 the super Bowl the last two years, That's what. That's 4:59:29.600 --> 4:59:31.480 what I'm saying. It's now or never. You got maybe 4:59:31.560 --> 4:59:35.720 two years to win a championship with Breeze maybe, Well, 4:59:36.120 --> 4:59:39.239 they're operating on a different timeline than most NFL teams. 4:59:39.440 --> 4:59:41.919 You can also just throw in the factor of who's 4:59:41.919 --> 4:59:44.199 had a better third round. They pick up Zach Bond 4:59:44.360 --> 4:59:46.759 and Adam Troutman in the third round alone, and then 4:59:46.800 --> 4:59:48.800 you add Caesar Ruise in the first as well. I mean, 4:59:48.840 --> 4:59:50.600 that's a pretty solid draft, even if you call it 4:59:50.680 --> 4:59:54.480 quits there. So yeah, the Vitings have thirteen picks tomorrow. 4:59:54.919 --> 4:59:58.280 Good god, Yeah that's true. So we're just gonna be 4:59:58.440 --> 5:00:01.160 here and we're gonna be talking about Spielman every other Well, 5:00:01.160 --> 5:00:03.680 here's the final pick of the final pick of the round. 5:00:03.800 --> 5:00:07.360 We go. Here we go with the pick in the 5:00:07.520 --> 5:00:12.480 twenty twenty NFL Draft the Baltimore Ravens like Kyrie Phillips 5:00:13.280 --> 5:00:20.600 guard Mississippi State. There is irrelevant of Day two hiree Phillips. 5:00:22.000 --> 5:00:24.240 That's another guy I had in that article of guys 5:00:24.280 --> 5:00:28.559 who could potentially replace Travis Frederick late in the draft. 5:00:28.880 --> 5:00:32.160 That was another offensive guard that could potentially fill that role. 5:00:33.320 --> 5:00:37.480 Anything else on him? Dane Uh massive, dude, surprise they 5:00:37.480 --> 5:00:39.080 announced him as a guard. I thought, I mean, because 5:00:39.080 --> 5:00:41.160 he played love tackle this past year from Mississippi State. 5:00:41.240 --> 5:00:43.640 I think he can play tackle. UM six five, three 5:00:43.800 --> 5:00:47.160 thirty one uh over thirty five inch arms. Not a 5:00:47.280 --> 5:00:50.759 guy that's gonna move all that well, but uh, he's 5:00:50.800 --> 5:00:53.480 going to Uh he's gonna once he gets his hands 5:00:53.520 --> 5:00:55.600 on you, he's gonna control you, drive you off the screen. 5:00:55.759 --> 5:00:58.640 So uh, to me, I think he's a tackle, but 5:00:58.680 --> 5:01:00.760 it'll be interesting to see how the Raven use him. Yeah, 5:01:00.800 --> 5:01:02.720 this is a guy I haven't said this. I went 5:01:02.800 --> 5:01:05.240 back and I go in the tradition of big Mississippi 5:01:05.280 --> 5:01:09.199 State offensive lineman, and I went Robert Hicks, Gabe Jackson, 5:01:09.400 --> 5:01:12.880 pork chopped Womack. You know, here's another one, this guy. Yeah, 5:01:12.960 --> 5:01:16.160 here's the guy three hundred over thirty pounds. He uses 5:01:16.240 --> 5:01:18.840 his mask to his advantage when it comes to creating holes, 5:01:19.080 --> 5:01:20.960 and once he gets that big body going, he can 5:01:21.000 --> 5:01:24.359 cause some problems. So he's a hard guy for defenders 5:01:24.400 --> 5:01:26.440 to do with due to his size. You know, he's 5:01:26.440 --> 5:01:28.480 the one pushing folks around. He's got some power in 5:01:28.560 --> 5:01:30.720 his hands. I think when he hits the defenders there's 5:01:30.800 --> 5:01:33.040 some shock. But he has to be careful because he 5:01:33.080 --> 5:01:36.200 does become over extended. He's a wastebender at times. I 5:01:36.200 --> 5:01:38.000 would not call him with I don't think he has 5:01:38.080 --> 5:01:40.800 nifty feet at all, So he's not going to press 5:01:40.840 --> 5:01:42.800 you with that lateral slide or things that you look 5:01:42.840 --> 5:01:45.080 with those those offensive lineman he was. It was a 5:01:45.160 --> 5:01:48.040 Juco kid that has put himself in position to be 5:01:48.160 --> 5:01:51.280 drafted and here he is. He's been drafted by the 5:01:51.440 --> 5:01:56.040 Baltimore Ravens. He had bottom three numbers in the tackle 5:01:56.120 --> 5:01:58.480 position and both the broad jump and then the shuttle 5:01:58.520 --> 5:02:00.879 as well, So it didn't have a great combine at 5:02:00.919 --> 5:02:04.640 five three, seven forty and then a twenty five inch vertical. Now, 5:02:04.680 --> 5:02:06.600 I know, in the third round you're still just looking 5:02:06.680 --> 5:02:11.240 for projections over the combine numbers, but at least there 5:02:11.280 --> 5:02:15.759 it wasn't necessarily anything to write home about. Now, kind 5:02:15.800 --> 5:02:18.520 of going back to the conversation that Dave was having 5:02:18.560 --> 5:02:21.160 a little bit earlier, where does this put us? I mean, 5:02:21.160 --> 5:02:23.000 we're at the end of the third round. You're looking 5:02:23.120 --> 5:02:26.680 forward to pick one twenty three, or excuse me, to 5:02:26.759 --> 5:02:29.480 the fourth round pick here for the Cowboys at one thirteen. 5:02:29.640 --> 5:02:33.800 What are we thinking here? Man? I'm I'm just now. 5:02:34.000 --> 5:02:36.200 You know, it kind of gets away from you when 5:02:36.240 --> 5:02:39.240 the picks start flying, but you kind of reset everything. 5:02:40.520 --> 5:02:42.720 A lot of a lot of names that intrigue me, 5:02:42.840 --> 5:02:44.480 and I mean the later you go in the draft, 5:02:44.520 --> 5:02:46.520 the harder it is to know how the Cowboys feel. 5:02:46.680 --> 5:02:50.239 But both of the Bryants are still there at tight end. 5:02:50.520 --> 5:02:56.640 You got Jeff skuy Akeem Davis Gaither, Carol Lewis Curtis Weaver. Yeah, 5:02:56.720 --> 5:03:01.920 both so there. Robertson the corner, wasn't he? Yeah, troll 5:03:02.000 --> 5:03:04.440 Lewis was picked. Well, let me take him out of 5:03:04.480 --> 5:03:07.800 the draft pool. Then Brian's guy, James Lynch is still there, 5:03:08.000 --> 5:03:13.240 Yes he is. kJ Hill is still there, Tyler surprising Meek. 5:03:13.320 --> 5:03:16.640 Robertson's still around. Yeah, he tweeted about it. He's gonna 5:03:16.680 --> 5:03:19.840 try really hard. Is that an injury thing, Dane, it's 5:03:19.840 --> 5:03:22.720 a short thing. He had the groin injury. But as 5:03:22.800 --> 5:03:26.759 far as I know, it's more size related than anything. Shoot, 5:03:26.800 --> 5:03:30.800 how about my guy Troy Pride junior him? Well, if 5:03:30.800 --> 5:03:32.960 you're talking about a corner with some link to him, 5:03:33.080 --> 5:03:35.480 damn you Dane. Oh, I so agree with your man. 5:03:35.640 --> 5:03:37.360 And I was wondering if I was alone on the 5:03:37.520 --> 5:03:40.840 Troy Pride Junior man. What about what about Robinson from 5:03:41.080 --> 5:03:45.399 is it from Tulsa? Yeah? Rot, Where's Kevin Turner when 5:03:45.440 --> 5:03:48.400 we need good play? Yeah? I mean that's what I'm saying. Though, 5:03:48.440 --> 5:03:50.840 if you're you know, the guys were talking about like 5:03:51.040 --> 5:03:54.840 Holmes from UCLA or Robertson, those are shorter guys, you know, 5:03:54.960 --> 5:03:56.440 I mean, we're kind of at that point right now, 5:03:56.480 --> 5:03:58.280 and I think there's still safeties on the board that 5:03:58.320 --> 5:04:02.039 could help the kill Boys. But you like Josiah Josiah Scott, 5:04:02.120 --> 5:04:04.160 Josiah Scott, but not I mean no, I mean not 5:04:04.240 --> 5:04:06.400 in the top three rounds. He is one of the 5:04:06.520 --> 5:04:08.920 undersized corners that I do like. But I think it 5:04:09.080 --> 5:04:14.079 shapes up still with Geno Stone, Iowa safety, Kenny Robinson, 5:04:14.160 --> 5:04:20.880 the West Virginia Joint Louis Battlehawk Jr. Reid M. Cavan Wallace. 5:04:21.040 --> 5:04:23.320 I think you still got safeties that could like right now. 5:04:23.400 --> 5:04:26.600 What we're what you're looking for is a combination of things, 5:04:26.720 --> 5:04:29.680 right a guy that could make the team. We're going 5:04:29.720 --> 5:04:31.240 in to day three. We're looking for a guy that 5:04:31.320 --> 5:04:34.600 could make the team. We're looking for traits. Maybe you're 5:04:34.640 --> 5:04:38.080 looking for special teamers. So yeah, I still think they've 5:04:38.120 --> 5:04:40.280 got they've got some nice players to pick from, and 5:04:40.480 --> 5:04:44.400 I mean pick one, Sorry Kyle, but I think there's 5:04:44.440 --> 5:04:46.920 still potential here for somebody who can help you in 5:04:47.040 --> 5:04:49.920 twenty twenty and pick at pick one twenty three, depending 5:04:49.960 --> 5:04:53.160 on what you do with it. Yeah, agreed, And I 5:04:53.280 --> 5:04:57.400 think Edge Rusher is still a possibility. Kalee Kareem, who 5:04:57.480 --> 5:04:59.520 hasn't been mentioned yet out of Notre Dame. He's a 5:04:59.560 --> 5:05:01.440 guy that I I kind of tabbed early as one 5:05:01.480 --> 5:05:04.800 of those mid day maybe three day three guys that 5:05:05.160 --> 5:05:07.480 I would like steel. I think he would be a 5:05:07.520 --> 5:05:11.800 steel in the fourth round. Absolutely, And I think you're 5:05:11.880 --> 5:05:15.040 looking at some receivers that are there. I know you 5:05:15.160 --> 5:05:18.520 don't necessarily need receiver, but kJ Hill a guy that 5:05:18.600 --> 5:05:20.720 I know, Dave, you are really high. He makes it 5:05:20.800 --> 5:05:23.400 to day three, I would I mean, I don't know when, 5:05:23.600 --> 5:05:26.080 when or where he would play, but I'd love to 5:05:26.160 --> 5:05:29.040 have him. Lucky Foe two still on the board, Darnay 5:05:29.160 --> 5:05:33.399 Holmes from UCLA still on the board. There's some names here, guys. 5:05:33.640 --> 5:05:38.600 Ye A little surprised that, uh, the quarterbacks Jacob Base 5:05:38.680 --> 5:05:41.120 and Jake from Learn taken the day and that was 5:05:41.200 --> 5:05:43.560 hurts make him make it to the fifth something like 5:05:43.680 --> 5:05:45.720 we've always and guys, we've all been together doing this 5:05:45.800 --> 5:05:48.480 for a while, so you understand tomorrow, like say, scouts 5:05:48.600 --> 5:05:51.360 and front offices, they're not sitting in their war rooms, 5:05:51.400 --> 5:05:54.120 but they've seen their board. And I have a feeling 5:05:54.160 --> 5:05:56.440 tomorrow when we get back, we're gonna see those guys 5:05:56.480 --> 5:05:59.400 those things with those picks. Everyone'll say I got value here, 5:05:59.400 --> 5:06:00.840 I got value, I get value here, and they're just 5:06:00.840 --> 5:06:02.320 gonna go down that board and they're gonna pick these 5:06:02.360 --> 5:06:04.559 guys and all these names that we're talking about right 5:06:04.600 --> 5:06:07.039 now are gonna be those guys that are taken early. 5:06:07.400 --> 5:06:09.560 I trust me that. It's like, Wow, I got a 5:06:09.560 --> 5:06:11.400 third round grade on this guy, I gotta take him now. 5:06:11.759 --> 5:06:13.880 You know, there's a lot of teams sitting around with 5:06:13.960 --> 5:06:15.960 third round grades on guys when we get to this 5:06:16.040 --> 5:06:17.879 fourth round and they're just gonna they're gonna pick them 5:06:17.919 --> 5:06:20.640 off there as we get going tomorrow, first thing in 5:06:20.680 --> 5:06:23.000 the morning, let me let me if you're if you're 5:06:23.040 --> 5:06:25.600 with us at eleven oh seven or twelve oh seven, 5:06:25.680 --> 5:06:27.880 if you're in Dame, somewhere in the world, other around 5:06:27.880 --> 5:06:30.880 the world, appreciate thank you guys. If you're with it, yeah, absolutely, 5:06:30.960 --> 5:06:32.480 love you to death. We're thrilled you're here. But if 5:06:32.520 --> 5:06:34.160 you're with us right now, let me give you some 5:06:34.320 --> 5:06:37.879 behind the scenes, because what's gonna happen is Brian brought us, 5:06:37.960 --> 5:06:40.280 is going to log out of here and he's gonna 5:06:40.320 --> 5:06:42.520 go home, and on the drive home, he's gonna start 5:06:42.600 --> 5:06:44.840 pounding the hell out of that cell phone. Get ready. 5:06:45.040 --> 5:06:48.520 He's gonna make about thirty phone calls between now and 5:06:48.680 --> 5:06:51.640 ten am tomorrow, and he's gonna come in here. I 5:06:51.720 --> 5:06:53.320 mean we're not actually gonna be in the same room, 5:06:53.400 --> 5:06:57.840 but he's gonna log in with just the most ridiculous 5:06:57.919 --> 5:07:00.520 curveballs about what we should be expect at the top 5:07:00.560 --> 5:07:04.760 of the fourth. It happens every freaking year and it's 5:07:05.000 --> 5:07:09.560 very fun. I should tune in. I can't wait. Sometimes 5:07:09.600 --> 5:07:11.759 he comes in no one who certain team's gonna pick, 5:07:11.880 --> 5:07:14.160 and it ruins his whole day before the draft. Yeah start, 5:07:14.280 --> 5:07:16.800 oh yeah, like yeah, like last year. Yeah, it hurts. 5:07:16.880 --> 5:07:19.320 Uh huh. I take this way too seriously, like you guys. 5:07:20.240 --> 5:07:22.800 As we met at Brian gets gets it in his 5:07:22.919 --> 5:07:25.000 head that the pick might not be what he wants. 5:07:25.759 --> 5:07:27.280 I want to say one thing though, before we do 5:07:27.360 --> 5:07:29.640 close this. I know Kyle closes out here tonight. Though. 5:07:29.680 --> 5:07:32.200 I love being with you guys again. I'm sorry I 5:07:32.240 --> 5:07:34.040 missed you for all those draft shows. Jeff, you got 5:07:34.120 --> 5:07:35.640 everybody did a great job. Dang, it's great to have 5:07:35.759 --> 5:07:38.920 you back to man. When we signed out, I didn't 5:07:38.960 --> 5:07:40.280 know what was going to happen at the end. But 5:07:40.759 --> 5:07:42.759 maybe this is not goodbye because we got tomorrow. We're 5:07:42.759 --> 5:07:44.440 gonna have a lot of fun. But it is nice 5:07:44.480 --> 5:07:46.240 to be able to work a draft with you guys again. 5:07:46.520 --> 5:07:50.080 It's it's one of the great joys of my career. Yeah, 5:07:50.120 --> 5:07:53.320 I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Glad we got another day. Well, 5:07:53.320 --> 5:07:55.440 and I'll also add to that, Brian, this is the 5:07:55.440 --> 5:07:57.600 first time I've actually gotten to work with you there. 5:07:57.880 --> 5:08:00.080 We worked up behind the Saints back and forth, So 5:08:00.560 --> 5:08:02.520 I mean, that's ecstatic for me. I grew up listening 5:08:02.560 --> 5:08:06.320 to you listening or going to uh maybe sounds or 5:08:06.360 --> 5:08:09.000 something like that. That's fair, that's fair. Well, it's the 5:08:09.080 --> 5:08:11.759 fact that I'm young is probably the better. I'll throw 5:08:11.840 --> 5:08:14.160 that in there. So but yeah, I will sign us 5:08:14.200 --> 5:08:16.520 off tonight. Jeff started things off on the one O 5:08:16.640 --> 5:08:18.640 five three the fans side. We will be back on 5:08:18.759 --> 5:08:21.360 the fan tomorrow. Jeff tell me ten am or no no, no, no, 5:08:21.400 --> 5:08:24.600 no at is it noon or is it ten right? 5:08:25.520 --> 5:08:27.240 We're I think I think Jeff and I got a 5:08:27.240 --> 5:08:29.800 pre pregame show and then you guys join on with us, 5:08:29.840 --> 5:08:31.719 so I know we start at ten am tomorrow. Ye 5:08:31.759 --> 5:08:33.600 see that was where I was consumers back and yeah, 5:08:33.960 --> 5:08:36.280 it happens every year to tradition like no other. The 5:08:36.440 --> 5:08:40.800 draft itself is at eleven, though, isn't it central? Eleven Central? 5:08:40.800 --> 5:08:42.600 So me and Jeff were gonna pregame this thing. We're 5:08:42.600 --> 5:08:45.240 gonna throw all these names out there and can confuse everybody. 5:08:45.360 --> 5:08:47.520 You guys are welcome, Yeah, Bill, free to jump off 5:08:47.640 --> 5:08:49.760 you want. H Well, we'll be a part of the 5:08:49.960 --> 5:08:52.759 one oh five three the fan draft coverage tomorrow will 5:08:52.800 --> 5:08:55.080 also be on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and when the 5:08:55.160 --> 5:08:58.600 Cowboys are picking, we will be on the social side 5:08:58.640 --> 5:09:01.039 of things too, So that is gonna do it here 5:09:01.040 --> 5:09:03.560 for Day two of the twenty twenty NFL Draft for 5:09:03.640 --> 5:09:07.239 Brian Bronness, for Dane Brugler, for Jeff Cavanaugh and David Helman. 5:09:07.280 --> 5:09:10.399 I'm Kyleeelman saying so long. We'll see you tomorrow morning 5:09:10.480 --> 5:09:14.240 for Day three of the twenty twenty NFL Draft. 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