WEBVTT - Whoopi Goldberg's Biggest Career Lesson Will Surprise You 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.720 I'm a homegrowl that knows a little bit about everything 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:05.640 and everybody. 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.160 You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.360 came in, Hey, y'all, what's up. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:11.959 It's Laura l. 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.880 Rosa and this is another episode of the Latest with 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:15.760 Laura Rosa. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.720 This is your Deily diggo on things, pop culture. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.880 Entertainment, news and all of the conversations that shake the room. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:22.280 Baby. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.200 So y'all know, we kick off The Latest with Laura 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.480 Rosa with checking in behind the scenes of the Grind. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:36.839 You all ready, let's get to it, all right, y'all. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.519 So we're checking out behind the scenes of the Grind 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:44.279 today Today. I am honestly just getting through work. This 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.519 is like a regular weekday for me. I'm here at 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.000 the Breakfast Club studio recording the podcast. We finished up 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.960 the day we did lunch. I was joking with one 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.840 of my coworkers here or Taylor, y'all know Taylor Taylor 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.680 made It who produces the podcast The Latest, Lona Rosa. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.280 I was joking to her and I was like, working 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.080 for a corporation is so crazy. If you think about it, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:12.240 like one day you can go from like having to 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.640 like sit down and have like real meetings with each 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.240 other and be very honest about what the other person 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.959 isn't doing right, that is, you know, getting you from 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:20.319 the goal. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.480 The next day, everything is cool. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.039 The day after that, y'all sitting down and eating lunch together, 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.440 Like it is a very like you have to be 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.720 very emotionally mature, and if even not emotionally mature, you 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.440 have to just really understand the climate of corporate structure 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.200 like here, and I was not even just here at 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.640 the company I work for, you guys know. And when 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.120 I say company I work for, the podcast is via 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.600 Black Effect, but the podcast is in partnership with iHeart. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.760 iHeart is also a breakfast club. I'm sorry. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.080 Breakfast club is also iHeart company as well. But any corporation, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.360 like I think back to, like, you know, when I 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.880 worked in banking, I worked at a Barcolay card Us 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.559 and Delaware, and I was there for about like two years. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.320 I worked in the community relations department, so we were 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:12.079 like the marketing team for like philanthropy for the bank. 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:13.040 That's the best way to put it. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.799 But even at like I recently saw a post from 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:21.000 my previous balls, she's like chief operating officer at like 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:27.160 some huge, you know, fintech company now, And I just 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.320 remember us being so young and having like our disagreements. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.919 And then being cool. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.360 And like, you know, some of my first corporate banking 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.919 experiences outside of Delaware just in general, even in Delaware 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.079 happened with her, Like I remember going to like, you know, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.119 there would be like these certain happy hours in Wall 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.000 Street that we would go to, and we would be 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.680 here in New York taking meetings, and then literally like 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.360 we'd be doing that on Friday, and on Monday, we'd 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.680 be in a meeting potentially talking about y'all, y'all understand 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.960 the dynamic I'm talking about, right, Yeah, For some reason, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.440 I was thinking about that today, Like the emotional maturity 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:08.520 inability to compartmentalize that is needed in order to be 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.400 able to survive the corporate structure is insane. And I 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.359 don't even think it's like even surviving the corporate structure. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:23.640 I really think it goes into like life too. Like 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.640 I think how you are and what you learn to 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.240 be and how you learn to navigate in a professional 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:34.520 setting creates a whole different level of like goals and 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.680 just different things you want to do in your personal life. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.400 Being an adult is crazy. I'm just rambling now because 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.840 oh my god, that has been me today, literally reflecting. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.120 I woke up this morning like, thank you guy, I 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:50.520 have a job and just was reflecting because Lord, life 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.120 was just you just never know where you're gonna end up. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.080 It's like the most insane thing. I was. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:00.960 Actually I fell asleep last night watching key Keypon and 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.880 Whoopi Goldberg's conversation on Baby. This is Kekey Palmer, which 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.720 is Kekey Palmer's podcast, and I think that's where my 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:11.040 thoughts derived from today and as I woke up this 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:12.200 morning to get ready for work. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:17.800 So let's get on over into the latest Kekey Palmer. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.040 I mean legendary run and I won't even say it's 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.440 a run because we've always known key Key Palmer as 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:28.159 the girl with the jobs, like key Key stay booked Palmer, period, right, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:34.560 But yes, so Kekey Palmer. She fresh off of an 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.560 announcement that she's going to be hosting The View. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:37.040 The View. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.400 Oh my god, maybe that's coming for her. I'm going 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.080 to be hosting The Voice. Carson Dally is taking a 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:43.960 step back as host for the first time in like 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.719 thirty one seasons, but he will be working as a producer. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.240 So Kekey Palmer is coming in and that's announced, But 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.320 at the same time, her conversation whoop be Goldberg goes 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.919 live on her YouTube channel, and I saw a promo 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.360 for this about like me it be like two days prior, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.440 and I was so excited, Like I just know, like 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.480 from watching other interviews that what we Goldberg has done, 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.040 and she's very selective about who she sits down and 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.160 talks to. Watching her own the view, I got the meeter. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.680 But I couldn't really tell this from meeting her because 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.719 I didn't really have an extensive conversation with her, like personally, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.359 but it just seems like she's very like it is 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.280 what it is, like she's going to tell you how 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.719 she feels. She lays everything on the line. If she 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:27.920 don't want to tell you how she feels, or she 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.560 don't want to talk about something, she's not going to 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.839 But it seems like a very vulnerable and genuine conversation. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.360 But also it seems like she just don't take no shit. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.480 And I love people like that, especially in this business 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.920 like we talk about like corporates and working for companies 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:47.200 and entertainment, like things are so different because the structures 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.720 that are normally put in the place in regular workplaces, 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.040 their structure and entertainment, but it's just very different, Like 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.840 you have to navigate, you have to work as an 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.680 entrepreneur even within a corporate setting, which can go very 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.080 well at times because you're so motivated you hit the 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.760 ground running. You know, you have to have long endurance 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.960 and stuff and entertainment. But it can also be a 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:11.520 negative thing because it's like a lot of times you are. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.040 Overworked, underpaid. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:15.760 There's a lot of things that you can go down 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.200 the list that just don't work well when you are 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.440 being treated as if you're entrepreneurial, like when you're being 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.839 treated as if you're supposed to have an entrepreneurial spirit 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.840 spirit within something that's supposed to be taking care of you. Right, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:32.080 But Woopy Goldberg has built up such a successful name 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.400 and legacy for herself, So hearing her be honest about 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.360 how this has impacted her as well, just the attitude 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.640 that she has and you know, knowing knowing her worth 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.360 and all of that, it was great to hear. Let's 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.160 get into the interview though, So coming off of that note, 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.000 let's let's get into there was a part of the 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.479 interview where Woopy Goldberg is talking about all of the 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.600 successes that we've seen, like legendary movies, color purple, all 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:03.000 the things. Because because of the diversity in roles that 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.920 she's been able to pick, people always give her her 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.200 flowers for that, like, oh, you know would be got 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.280 Range and she's like, yeah, I mean the talent is there. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.240 But to be honest, I took what I could take 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.080 because I needed work and they wouldn't hire me because 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.000 I was black. Let's take a list of myself. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:24.280 What happened with sister act? Which one you're getting into? 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:29.000 The role they wrote that for Bett Midler that wasn't mine? 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.560 How did you get on there? Take that Lady movie? 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.960 I didn't take it. I was looking for I was 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.040 looking for work, and everybody. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:43.120 Always has I was looking for it, but it's true because. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:44.680 Apparently I'm black. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.520 Yeah, and I guess I didn't realize it, Okay, So 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.440 every time I went looking for something, they were like, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:53.880 oh no, no, no, this isn't free. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.440 So i'd started, and I started. 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.080 I said to my agents, give me all the stuff 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:02.080 that people have turned down. So I got Burglar that 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:07.480 way because that was Bruce Willis's movie Jumping Jack Flash 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.960 was Shelley Long's movie. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.520 There's several a whole bunch of movies. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.600 I got, Hey, y'all call it what's Jennifer Lawrence din Walk? 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:23.600 Yeah, yes, send it to me, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.520 Because I felt like people really wanted to make those movies, 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.560 and then the person they wanted said, no, let me 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.120 see what I could do. That's why I loved when 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.000 you said, you know, you did this and this and this, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.880 and it was always different people. I was always the 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.920 character that was written. And I think because people thirty 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:51.400 years ago, forty years ago had a limited idea of 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.800 what could be done, yes, and had a limited idea 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.760 of what I could do, because clearly they hadn't seen 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.960 my show, so they didn't know. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:02.440 So I did him. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.480 And you know, listen, they didn't always work at the 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.960 box office, but when they got on television, people lost 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.439 their minds because people didn't always have money to go see. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.400 The movie, yeah, but they could see it on TV. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.600 And that's how we got all. A lot of my 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:17.319 movies have. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.240 Become these kind of classics because people went, oh, that's 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:21.320 what that was about mine. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.760 So when I saw that, I went and looked up, like, 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:29.600 what are woop By Goldberg's top fifteen movies? Because one 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.520 of our our producer is Brandon, He's been here on 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:34.239 the podcast. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.719 Made a point to me, not a point, but he 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:37.520 had a thought. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.480 So his thought was, woo By Goldberg has been in 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:46.840 a lot of huge iconic films. She is massively successful, 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.320 huge celebrity name. But like, what is one character of 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.800 hers that you can think about that sit out to 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:58.480 you beyond anything. I instantly thought color purple. It would 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.480 have to be color Purple, or it would have to 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.520 be sister act like, it would have to be one 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.560 of those two. But and when I said that, he 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.360 was like, yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. But 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.920 he was like, even those characters, like for as big 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.120 as she is, you would think that it would be 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.360 way more than those, or that the characters would be 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.880 like bigger or like more people would like talk about 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.199 them often. I'm like, but Color Purple was huge though, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:29.960 like Sealy, the Color Purple was a really big movie. 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:31.880 But it made me look up like where her top 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.040 movies were. So I have a list of what gold 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:39.319 Derby says. Player first at number fifteen, I'm sorry, Last 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.480 at number fifteen, number fourteen for Color Girls in twenty ten. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.680 It's crazy because I know for Color Girls it was 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.760 a big movie. I know what b Goldberg was in it, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.959 but I don't think instantly for Color Girls when I 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.360 think will be Goldberg, And I think that's what the 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:58.280 producer that I worked with was talking about, like there's 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.680 a lot of big movies and she's amaze in them, 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.600 but you don't even think about those characters, like you 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:07.319 can't even name who she played. And for Colored Girls, 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.760 Whoopi Goldberg played Alice Adros, the Lady in White in 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:17.760 the twenty ten film adaption of Four Colored Girls. So 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.160 she was the strict religious mother who constantly argued with 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.400 her promiscuous Barton, the daughter played by Tangi, who was 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:30.439 one of the main characters. Now you also have Koreina Karina. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.160 I've never seen at thirteen. I've never seen that number twelve. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:37.520 Haw Stella got her groove back. See, you don't even remember, like, 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.840 and that's what I'm saying. Any if you watch the 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.880 movie now, you'd be like, oh, yeah, like we couldn't 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.400 have made this movie without Whoopee. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.280 But for Halstella got her groove back. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.679 The Lion King. At number eleven, she played one of 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.719 the hyenas. I feel like most people wouldn't just think 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.520 about that role either. Number ten, Ghost of Mississippi. I 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.720 didn't see that movie. Number nine she was in Soap 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.120 Dish back in ninety one. Number eight Clara's Heart in 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.200 eighty eight, she Oh, She's been doing this for a 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.439 long time. Number seven, Jumping Jack Flash in eighty six. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.880 Number six, The Long Work, Long Walk Home. Number five, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:18.160 Girl Interrupted. Number four they listened number Sister Act this 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.920 number four. I can see Sister Act. That was from 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.760 nineteen ninety two. I think I was one year old 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.439 when Sister I came out. I could literally see Sister 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.080 Act word for word. Like that movie made me want 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.319 to be like that was one of the things that 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:31.439 made me want to be on on camera. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:32.160 Sister Act. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:38.760 Moesha in Living Note, Living Color. I feel like I 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.360 wasn't big on in Living Color. I will watch some 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.480 of the sketches, but I wasn't big on Living Color, 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:49.280 Living Single, Different World Cosby Show for sure. Like, oh 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.199 my god, I wanted their family so bad, and I 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.920 wanted to be on that show so bad. Number three 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.920 Boys on the Side. Number two Ghosts and watch My 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.680 Mom's Gonna Be Color Park. Yeah, Color Purple, Color Purple 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.760 is that is the movie for Woopi Goldberg. She was 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.080 the leading color Purple after her one woman show Broadway 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.280 became a surprise hit. Steven Spielberg took a huge chance 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.400 casting the unknown actress at the center of this film, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.360 but the gamble paid off. Possible controversy over her having 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.959 a white director tell the story calls OSCAR voters to 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.120 avoid the film and the final balloting. Despite ele eleven 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.960 OSCAR nomber nations overall, Steven Spielberg was not nominated for 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:31.000 Best Director. The various CONTROVERSI She's made the Academy go 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.319 for a safer choice Best Actress too, and they awarded 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:39.200 Jerdine Page for the trip to Bontefield since she had 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:44.960 suffered seven prior losses. I think one of the biggest 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:49.800 things though, that I took away from this conversation was 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.160 just that people might not get it all the time, 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.200 especially not right away, and some of the greatest like 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.880 s I didn't really know much about it out Whoopy 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:06.760 Goldberg's coming into her you know, like success story Kiki Palmer, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.120 I think is a bit different because, like I was 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.000 young growing up on watching you know, watching Kiky Palmer, 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.800 like was like She's like we're around the same age, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.520 so like that was like natural. Like I remember when 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.840 a Killer Bee Killing in the Bee. You could watch 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.680 it on TV or you could get it on tape, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.720 and like, you know, I didn't know that it wasn't 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.080 a box office success. I had no idea about that, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:27.960 but I was young. But I just remember the excitement. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.960 I remember hearing, you know, all of my friends talking 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.280 about it. Like I remember when that movie when she 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.600 started to become like an actress that like people were 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.920 recognizing Whoopee. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:39.760 Is you know, a lot older than me, So I 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:40.400 don't remember that. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:45.240 But taking away from this conversation is just you really 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.360 got to stay stead fast and even when you're not 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.960 for sure what you're doing, you have to still keep 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.040 doing it again because putting your reps in is what. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.000 Like you never know when you throw something at the. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.200 Wall was gonna stick, like Whoopy did not know when 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.080 she did some of those movies that eventually and Kekey 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.680 Pomer either when she talked about Killing Me that when 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.200 it flopped originally in the box office, they would later 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.960 go on to become like iconic staple pieces of cinema 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.720 attached to their careers. And I think in the moment too, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.840 like I always think so much about like what's happening 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.520 right now, what I'm not doing right now, what I'm 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.000 not doing well right now. I never think about, like 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.920 how things will grow, mature and manifest into other things, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.480 into learning lessons, into some of the greatest moments of 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.880 my life, into some of the greatest learned lessons of 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.160 my life. So it was good to hear, you know 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.440 what b Goldberg talk a lot about that. They'll talk 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:42.240 about everything. Though they got into sex, they got into career, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.080 I mean more into career. Uh, they got into what 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.240 Bigoldberg being a fashion icon? Did y'all know people look 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.600 at what Big Goldberg as a fashion icon? Now here's 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.040 the thing. When Keky Pomer said fashion icon, I was like, 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.440 I wouldn't phrase it that way. I understood what Kiki 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.000 Pomer was trying to say, but I wouldn' phrase it 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.800 that way. I would call Oprah of fashion Oprah. I 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.240 wouldn't call whoopee go Burg a fashion icon. Let's take 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.920 a listen to Kiki Palmer talk about woop Bee in 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:08.760 the fashion sense. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.120 Also a fashion icon from your hair which makes me 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.880 aware to your lipstick. I mean, everything about you can 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:20.280 be emulated because it's so specific. But then it's you 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.240 just kind of like, hey, you don't even really think 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.200 about it, like what is your pov of fashion? And 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.680 the fact that you are fashion icon to so many. 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.040 Well, I think it's so lovely for people to say that. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.840 But it wasn't always that way. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.840 There used to be a lot of talk in the 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:40.680 old days about how odd I dressed because I wore 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:46.440 sneakers to the oscars. I didn't want to put my 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.760 feet in those high heels. Some when I want to 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.720 do it, I do it. When I don't want to 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.000 do it, I make you know, I put combat boots 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.600 on under gown. I don't care because I really don't 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.000 want to be uncomfortable in what I'm wearing, which is 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.000 why the whole broad and underwear thing is. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.600 You know, it's a choice, is a choice. 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.560 Yet I would not think of Whoopy Goldberg as a 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:15.159 fashion icon. Has Whoopy Goldberg made fashion moves that people 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:22.080 like point to and have conversation about. Yes, and a 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.040 lot of them have. I mean, now we know a 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.600 lot of them are like she talks about it on 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.320 the show Comfort, But it's kind of always been like 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.919 she's had her own style, and I think, to be 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.919 honest with you, from the eighties up until now, like 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.560 like how we are in twenty twenty six and how 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.040 we dressing. You know, there's not a lot of individualism today, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.640 and I think with whoop Be, it's not that she's 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.320 ever set out to be a fashion icon. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.280 I think she's always just been very much. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.679 Individual But Woodbee has had, you know, some moments, like 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.200 you know, there there are if y'all google Whoopie Goldberg 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.359 fashion moments, there have been some moments like one of 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:02.879 the pictures I was trying to find. I'm trying to 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:04.639 see where this was from. She's at like an event 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.000 of some sort and she's in a T shirt with 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.480 this fire leather jacket, like a distress vintage leather jacket. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.919 Everything about her has always been so cool and so 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:17.040 effortless and willing to try whatever and do whatever and 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.640 be very very very different. I mean, like sneakers with dresses, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.760 sneakers with suits. Like people have just always been very 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:28.920 confused about what be Goldberg's personal style. And I love 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.880 that they had because I feel like it's very essential 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.680 to who she is as a person. She don't care 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.800 nothing about yall people. It's all about what she wants 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.080 and what she needs in the moment and how she's 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:38.720 feeling in the moment. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:39.440 And I love that. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.480 That's why I understand what Kiki Palmer is saying, even 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.720 though I know I knew what people was gonna push 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:45.080 back on that. 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:49.600 Like fashion, I conquer, please, I just do what I do. Now, 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.159 let's sh shift gears a bit. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.879 We talk about talk shows and conversations. Young Jack and 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:59.480 Miss Shainikah over on the streets warning takeover. They continued 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:03.439 the conversation today. Well, to be fair, they responded to 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:08.440 Clarissa Shield, who is huge, you know female boxer. She's 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.920 the guote, she's undefeated, does her thing. She has a 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.000 fight coming up August fifteenth in Atlanta. But there's been 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.320 a back and forth, you know, because of an interview 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:17.160 that they did with her. 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:17.879 Now. 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.680 In the interview, she was asked about pet Poos, who 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:23.160 was a rabber from New York. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.560 Who was formerly dating Remy Ma. They were married, actually 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:27.000 not dating. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.840 Sorry, they were married for some time, so a lot 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.560 of time, and then it came out that Clarissa was 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.280 dating him, which all of it caught all of us 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.359 by surprise, if I'm being honest, because we only knew 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.160 of pet Poofs and Clarissa. I'm sorry, we only knew 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.199 of pet Poofs and Remy as like black love and 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.040 working things out and you know whatever. There were rumblings 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.520 of different things, but we just did not know. But anyway, 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.320 Clarissa Shields was in Atlanta promoting her fight. She went 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.760 on a radio show with Young Jack and Miss Shaanika 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:56.560 the Street's wanting to take Over, and she was asked 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.879 this question. We talked about this in a previous episode, 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.200 but let's say it al. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:01.919 Real question because I didn't been here before. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:08.520 How much longer are you willing to be in a 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.000 relationship with somebody's husbands? 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.000 Because at the end of the day, that's. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:13.800 What people are looking at. 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.879 Well pause, pause, because that's not somebody's husband. Pat Posts 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.959 filed for divorce. Y'all hate to say that word, but 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.720 it's the word that's out there. He filed for divorce 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:27.040 because he's serious about me. I'm not with somebody's husband. 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.040 And if you're gonna call him her husband, make sure 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.360 you call her his wife, and also hold her accountable 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.240 for what she's doing in her life because she hasn't 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.960 who she's big about. So don't make it seem like 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.600 it's just one sided. I'm not with somebody's husband. 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:43.480