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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and we are back for another edition

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Speaker 1: of mix Shots. It is a Senior Bowl edition of

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Speaker 1: mix Shots. We've got our Super Bowl matchup all set

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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys. Now what is it? One? Two, three

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Speaker 1: weeks into the twenty twenty one offseason. We've got so

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Speaker 1: much to get caught up on. As we welcome you

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Speaker 1: to another edition of mix Shots. As Mickey Spagnola is

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Speaker 1: inside the SWBC Mortgage studios at Forward Center at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, ready for duty. Everson Walls inside his

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Speaker 1: own s WBC mortgage studio at his home, and I

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Speaker 1: am as well, and y'all ready for a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: matchup of quarterbacks? What do y'all think? I am so

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Speaker 1: sick of quarterbacks. Go ahead, Spacks. I'll get into that

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Speaker 1: crap later. I'm so sick of quarterbacks right now, geez,

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Speaker 1: I have to have my own show for that one.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Everson. I didn't say quarterbacks. A Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: matchup of cornerbacks. Oh sorry, yes, we're looking forward to

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Speaker 1: wood William. Thank you, sir, spoken like a true defensive back, right, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be uh you gotta be excited that this

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Speaker 1: is a Senior Bowl week, that you're able to monitor

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Speaker 1: things from a distance. It is. We're a week away

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Speaker 1: from media day at the Super Bowl and you got

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Speaker 1: to do that from a distance. But you got to

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Speaker 1: be excited that the Cowboys are now three weeks into

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Speaker 1: this and there's not much, not much to talk about

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Speaker 1: as far as this coaching staff right now that things

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Speaker 1: are resolved, well, it looks like it's resolved. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: there may be. I don't know if there's another move

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Speaker 1: coming or not. I'm still looking at that linebacker position,

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Speaker 1: coaching position. We'll see what ends up happening there. But

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm I'm I'm sort of with Everson on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback thing, not so much the uh my homes.

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Speaker 1: But can we get a little bit more of Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady on how spectacular lee he played in the game

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Speaker 1: with three consecutive interceptions, you know, and I thought he

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Speaker 1: was really good afterwards when they interviewed him on the

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Speaker 1: field when he basically said, Hey, go talk to some

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Speaker 1: of the other guys, right, Maybe go talk to those

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Speaker 1: defensive guys, right, maybe go to maybe maybe go interview

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Speaker 1: green Bay, right, and uh, figure out why they go

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Speaker 1: go go inter view the cornerback for green Bay number twenty. Well,

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Speaker 1: I got a comparison on that one too, by the way,

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Speaker 1: or the head coach who decides kicking field goals is

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Speaker 1: a really good thing, right, And when we get into

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Speaker 1: this bill, I'm gonna I'm gonna get into the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: making that same sort of decisions in the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine Divisional Round playoff game against Minnesota, when the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys went up against a team that was nearly averaging

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Speaker 1: thirty points a game, and in their last two games

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Speaker 1: in the regular season they scored thirty and forty four.

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Speaker 1: Yet the Cowboys, on fourth and one at the third

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Speaker 1: Minnesota thirty eight, decided let's just try a field goal

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Speaker 1: against this team, because, as we know, the more field

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Speaker 1: goals you attempt, the closer you are the losing So

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Speaker 1: I think those are the things that really decided this game,

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Speaker 1: all right. Well, and difference they make right now has

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Speaker 1: a target on Spagnola's back. I like that the more

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Speaker 1: field goals you kicked, the closer you are to losing. Well,

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Speaker 1: in that case, it was definitely true for the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers. But let's be real, guys, And you know,

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Speaker 1: I started off talking about the quarterbacks and things that nature.

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Speaker 1: I know, that's just the nature of the beasts. I

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Speaker 1: actually recall because I was playing at the time when

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Speaker 1: they decided to put the quarterbacks officially into their own club,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, let's market quarterbacks even more. And so that

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Speaker 1: as a defensive player and as a man trying to

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Speaker 1: make his own livelihood at doing the same things that

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are doing, I took offense to it. But

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Speaker 1: it is what it is right now. So here we are.

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Speaker 1: Every time we comment on the football game, it's always

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Speaker 1: from what the quarterback is thinking, as if no one

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Speaker 1: They're just drones. You know, you guys, just go do

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Speaker 1: queen Bee. That's what the quarterback is, all right. So

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about Aaron Rodgers. He's gonna do his job

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Speaker 1: always been on point and quit at the time. And

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers gets pressure on him.

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Speaker 1: Not just that particular play, but as the game goes on,

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Speaker 1: not as poised as he was. He's not Joe Cool anymore. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers makes an instant mistake.

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Speaker 1: It just happened, just very quickly. You have a chance

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Speaker 1: to get as many yards as possible running versus throwing

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Speaker 1: it to your wife receiver who's not quite that open.

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Speaker 1: The pressure is on you. You make that decision pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: It's a no brainer. But not for Aaron Rodgers. Not

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Speaker 1: only did he did he do it once, he did

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Speaker 1: those two mistakes really led to the difference in the

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Speaker 1: ball game. And that's on your quarterback, who MVP of

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Speaker 1: the year all of that, everybody, guys needs a teammate.

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Speaker 1: Everybody needs teammates to pull them out of the fire.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if everybody's a Tom Braided, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Eric Ridge was supposed to be the guy to make

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Speaker 1: am so tired of it. Defensive players, offensive lineman. They

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Speaker 1: have families too, They have parents. Okay, they have you know,

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Speaker 1: the five. Might have been to the two or three, right,

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Speaker 1: that's why a lot of head coaches, when they're not

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Speaker 1: in four down territory here, you know, call a play

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Speaker 1: And and think of out this, Everson, when when when

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Speaker 1: the key thing hit the field goal to win it.

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Speaker 1: The key thing in in that game was you guys

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Speaker 1: And I thought that's where they made their mistake. And

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Speaker 1: And that's what they did. They kicked field goals and

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Speaker 1: games over. Can't be kicking field goals. And the bottom

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Speaker 1: ever since you I'm sure you played in the Metrodome,

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Speaker 1: it was so loud. It was so loud. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: offensive line didn't have a chance. Right, Romo ends up

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Speaker 1: getting sacked six times, he got hit another ten times,

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Speaker 1: So we look at it and oh, Romo didn't win

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Speaker 1: playoff games, boy, you better be scoring touchdowns and you

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Speaker 1: your opponent, Spags. You know that Kansas City is gonna

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Speaker 1: it's a great sign. Yeah, I guess he want. I

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Speaker 1: it's been a while. I want to go see some

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Speaker 1: A year ago at this time, I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: I'm talking twenty twenty a year ago. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's it's always it's always a different

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Speaker 1: The Rangers are going to be playing in a new ballpark.

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Speaker 1: You look at the Mavericks and with Luca and KP healthy,

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Speaker 1: was you know, come March eleventh, though it was it

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Speaker 1: year's changed. I think a year ago today, I was

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Speaker 1: you're on as far as skiing as concerned. Uh, not

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Speaker 1: yet with the bike incident and the Achilles problem. You're

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens next year, though, I kind of

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Speaker 1: just I kind of want to just go out there

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Speaker 1: you know. You know, they do anticipate having twenty two

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Speaker 1: thousand fans in the stands in Tampa for the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl next week. I saw that. I gotta say, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty amazing, you know, for what to happen during

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Speaker 1: the pandemic year. But in regards of the Hall, the fame,

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Speaker 1: not this year. I'm gonna wait till all of this

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Speaker 1: in Tampa are. Right, their team's gonna be home for

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Their hockey team, the Lightning, won the Stanley Cup,

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Speaker 1: and the baseball team, the Rays, played in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: But Mickey, mick Key, it's it's typical Tampa though. All

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Speaker 1: this happens in a year where the fans can't even

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Speaker 1: Toronto the same Yeah, the baseball team was playing here, right,

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Speaker 1: I was playing here, and so they didn't get to

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Speaker 1: And those aren't gonna be all Tampa fans. And with

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Speaker 1: when you look at the state of Florida, let's let's

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Speaker 1: not forget the Miami Heat was in the NBA Finals

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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, we need to break this stuff up

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Speaker 1: all right, about these Kansas City Chiefs Okay, there's so

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Speaker 1: much attention, of course on the quarterback. But let me

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Speaker 1: tell you, in fact, when Micole Hardman muff that punt

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, and she went to Texas Tech. So she's

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Speaker 1: become this huge Chiefs fan all of a sudden the

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Speaker 1: watch this Hardman. He's gonna he's gonna come back from that,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna do something later in the insured en

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Speaker 1: if he scored the first touchdown and then they used

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Speaker 1: him on an end around. And but you look at

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Speaker 1: Hardman and you look at Tyreek Hill, and you just

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Speaker 1: look at the weapons that Mahomes has. Hardman, I looked

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Speaker 1: seven or something like that. Tyreek Hill laser time was

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Speaker 1: a four two nine. And I mean, when you have

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Speaker 1: that kind of speed on the field, speed kills, right Everson, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it should does. And it also, let's let's be real,

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Speaker 1: receivers came around that were two of the fastest players

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Speaker 1: I guess to be in the NFL. One was Ron

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Speaker 1: Brown wide receiver for the La Rams or Anaheim Rams

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Speaker 1: i think at the time, and then also Willie Golf

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. Now you take a look at those two

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Speaker 1: guys they were part of as NFL football players. In

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Speaker 1: it was Helsinki on the USA four by one hundred

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Speaker 1: meter relay team. I don't know what position they were in.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen it. I think I might look at

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Speaker 1: it on YouTube after the game, after the show, but

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Speaker 1: they said a world wreck. Could they were part of

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Speaker 1: Willie Golf and Ron Brown. They were still NFL football

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Speaker 1: players when they did it. So there's one thing to

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Speaker 1: have to cover fast guys that are track athletes. But

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Speaker 1: when you have someone like Bob Hayes, who is a

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Speaker 1: football player who just happens to be fast as hell,

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Speaker 1: that is a totally different issue. So when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about speed kills is one thing. But when you have

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Speaker 1: an athlete, a true athlete, a football player who happens

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Speaker 1: to have speed like Tyree Hill, who can change direction

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Speaker 1: just as quickly as he can run straight ahead. That's

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Speaker 1: when you have a problem. So in other words, Everson

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Speaker 1: Now Willie Golf had football in his background. Ron Brown,

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Speaker 1: but Ronaldo Nia Maya is a different story, right, different

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Speaker 1: story track athletes, true track athletes who don't have football

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Speaker 1: in their background at an early age. Their muscles are

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Speaker 1: made to just run straight ahead. In football, you gotta

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Speaker 1: do all kinds of stuff. You've seen Beckham, You've seen

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Speaker 1: Tommy Hill, that you have to be able to move

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Speaker 1: and change direction instinctly, and so track guys muscles are

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Speaker 1: just not made to make that lateral movement because everything

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Speaker 1: that they do is all about going straight ahead. So

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Speaker 1: that's the difference between a track athlete and a guy

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Speaker 1: who's a football player who happens to be a fast

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Speaker 1: track a fast player. And the poster child for that

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Speaker 1: was Alexander Wright, the Cowboys second round draft choice in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. He was a track guy, but boy, he

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Speaker 1: just couldn't run routes in His hands were a little

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Speaker 1: bit slower than his four three speed, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I remember, his feet were great, but his hands was

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Speaker 1: I remember. I remember at some point that rookie year,

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Speaker 1: I went up to Jimmy and I go, why do

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Speaker 1: you why do you stirn him? Why do you keep

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Speaker 1: putting him on the field, And Jimmy goes out. They

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Speaker 1: catch one. Where you had we had Johnny Johnny Lamb Jones,

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Speaker 1: I think the late great Johnny Lamb Jones, who also

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Speaker 1: came to the Cowboys. One of the guys from Lamb Passes, Texas.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, one of them he won. If

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, he won the Texas state title in

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Speaker 1: I think I just tried to block it out of

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Speaker 1: but they weren't a threat. They just weren't threats too

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Speaker 1: on the football field at all. You know, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: He was a rookie year last year. Dixon. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: sixty eight yards to tie the game. But he was

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Speaker 1: another guy because the next year they were thinking about

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Speaker 1: And I remember Jimmy, Jimmy said, Jimmy said, he goes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes with with with Dixon, you're better off handing the

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Speaker 1: mall to him than throw the ball too. And you know,

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Speaker 1: let's be real, Dixon, Uh, he wasn't the brightest bulb

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Speaker 1: in thea So you have to you have to be

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Speaker 1: aware of what you can do. But when you look

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Speaker 1: at Dixon, uh, he is that that Tyreek hill. I

645
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Speaker 1: mean if he would have you know, just had the ability,

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Speaker 1: the mental ability and all of that to put it together.

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Speaker 1: Because I've been looking at some YouTube videos. He caught

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Speaker 1: a nice skinny post on me. Uh, and we were

649
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Speaker 1: so intent on not let him in catch it. My

650
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: safety almost knocked me out because it was something that

651
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Speaker 1: we anticipated. But yeah, Dixon was he had the ability,

652
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: but physically it was just mentally he just wasn't there.

653
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Speaker 1: When you talk about that incident and have his owner,

654
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: that was the big beginning of the end of my

655
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Speaker 1: career with the Cowboys, but it was the beginning of

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Speaker 1: my career as a Super Bowl winning with the Giants,

657
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: because if it wasn't for that incident and Jimmy Johnson

658
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Speaker 1: and I cursing each other out going down the ramp

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Speaker 1: and amazone them, then I would probably still with the

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Speaker 1: Bill Dallas Cowboys. No'm telling him how that would have

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Speaker 1: turned out. And before we go to break, here's a

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Speaker 1: little trivia question for you. You mentioned Johnny Lamb Jones

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six Olympics in Montreal. How high was Johnny

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Speaker 1: Lamb Jones drafted in the NFL draft in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: What pick was he? I think he was late. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you got Hiven late. I don't remember. That was before

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Speaker 1: my NFL days. First of all, I didn't know he

670
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Speaker 1: was drafted in eighty Yeah, he was. I had no

671
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Speaker 1: idea because by the time he came around to the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: I think it was well eighty six seven or so.

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Speaker 1: You're okay, You're gonna be shocked by this revelation. Johnny

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Speaker 1: Lamb Jones was the second pick in the draft eighteen

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Speaker 1: eighty by the New York Jets. Yes, Billy Simms went

676
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Speaker 1: number one to the Detroit Lions, and Johnny Lamb Jones

677
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Speaker 1: many Boos went number three to the Cincinnati Bengals in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty Hall of Fame talk about another sprinter, Everson

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Speaker 1: Curtis Dickeye out of Texas A and M went number

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Speaker 1: five to the Baltimore Colts in nineteen eighty. Were in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. We were running behind him for about

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Speaker 1: eighty yards at Baltimore. I've seen that speed. I mean

684
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: I was way back there, but yeah, I saw it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I did. And so John Lamb Jones was the

686
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Speaker 1: number one rated receiver coming out in that draft with

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Speaker 1: that kind of speed. Art Monk first round pick of

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Speaker 1: the Redskins, number eighteen overall in nineteen eighty. All right,

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Speaker 1: doing right now, Mickey and Everson. Sounds like you're shuffling paper. No,

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Speaker 1: that's me. That would be what I'm doing is I'm

734
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Speaker 1: watching individual drills the National squad at the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: on the NFL Network. They are no longer at lad

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Speaker 1: People's Stadium in Mobile, Alabama this year for the practices

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00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: leading up to the game. That the University of South

738
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Speaker 1: Alabama instead. And oh, yeah, there you go. There's an

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma center of the Creed Humphrey right there. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm going to watch this for a little bit and

741
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: Nicky can take it away. Green Humphreys lined up at center.

742
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: Now we're going to work with the left tackles. They're

743
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Speaker 1: got a kid from Notre Dame lining up at left tackle. Oh,

744
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to spend the rest of the afternoon watching

745
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: this stuff, Picky, And I bet there's not many people

746
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: surrounding the field as normal watching those games, right, No,

747
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: they especially from dands. There are some people up in

748
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: the stands state the NFL scouts. Teams can have up

749
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: to twelve individuals in attendance. Is that right? I think

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00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 1: it's ten. I read ten. Okay, they're limited to ten

751
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: personnel to scout the event. And as you said, the

752
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: games being played this time at Hancock Whitney Stadium. Uh,

753
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: they've already sold out like six thousand tickets. And the

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00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: media availability is very very limited. Uh. You know they

755
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: used to let us on the field after the practice

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00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, pick out who you wanted

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00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: to interview. That won't be allowed. Uh. They're going to

758
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: have four players per practice to be interviewed, and the

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00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: interview has to have The media will be socially distanced

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00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: in sections in the in the stands. Uh. And then

761
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: they'll have some evening phone line uh interviews, zoom calls,

762
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: things like that. Uh. And uh, boy, they used to

763
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Speaker 1: be able to hang out out at the hotel and

764
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Speaker 1: bump into people. Uh. That's not happening uh any longer. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And as you said, this year, it'll be the national

766
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: team versus the American team. No more North uh and South.

767
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: But they did uh manage to get Davante. Yeah you

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Speaker 1: explain noticing that. I'm not sure you're not gonna drag

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Speaker 1: me into that, uh because it it very easily could happen,

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Speaker 1: by the way. Uh oh, although you know what happened though,

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00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: because of the the invitations and uh, you know, not

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Speaker 1: knowing who was gonna come or who couldn't. I think

773
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: they had a hard time dividing it up geographically, so

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00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: they just kind of put people on teams. But DeVante Smith,

775
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winner, is competing in this Senior Bowl,

776
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: and I read where he's only the tenth Heisman winner

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Speaker 1: to participate in a Senior Bowl. The other nine, Doke Walker,

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Speaker 1: I got one of them. Shut up, mother, Baker Mayfield.

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00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was the last one Heisman Trophy winner to participate.

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Speaker 1: If I go backwards, Tim Tebow, Troy Smith, Carson Palmer,

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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson in nineteen eighty, nineteen seventy four, John Cappelletti,

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Speaker 1: Pat Sullivan, Alan Amici, and Doke walk Away. Bo wait right,

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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson in nineteen seventy four. What is a third grader?

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Speaker 1: It says Comma, nineteen seventy four, Bo Jackson. It should

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Speaker 1: be nineteen eighty six, right now, that's what that's what

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Speaker 1: it has, you know, Bob Jackson. Bob Jackson as a

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00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: sixth grader could have competed in the seed. They probably

788
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: didn't have athlete as a sixth grader. He could have.

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Speaker 1: He would have been like eighty three or so. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's either it's it's maybe. Well Carson Palmer it says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's probably what it is. Yeah, they made a type

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Speaker 1: on that thing. Anyway. Yeah, things have changed. Good things

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Speaker 1: have changed. You know. They also got rid of the

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Speaker 1: East West Shrine Game and also the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl,

795
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: Uh got canceled. And the ways we can't we can't

796
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: have the East play in the West either, that's right, No, no, no,

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00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: we didn't no way. In fact, the players started arriving

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00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: on Saturday because they had to do their COVID testing

799
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: and had to pass through multiple times throughout the week.

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00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: And this year each player gets his own room. And

801
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: how about this, for the first time NFL teams had

802
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: to buy into the Bowl game. They're paying for club

803
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: suites at the new stadium for interviews with players. So

804
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: that's how they're kind of raising money to help out

805
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: with the loss because of lack of fans being allowed

806
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: into the stadium. So this whole thing is different. As

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00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, it was a couple of weeks

808
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: ago and I was talking to Will McClay. He wasn't

809
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: even sure they were gonna you know, they had all

810
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: these plans to have the game, but he wasn't even sure,

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Speaker 1: you know, who was going to be allowed there. So

812
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: from a team standpoint, even if you only have a

813
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: limited amount of personnel at the practices, they record those

814
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: things and they send them out to all the teams,

815
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: so you're able to you're able to watch the practices.

816
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: You just don't get that one on one capability with

817
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: these players, And to me, that's one of the most

818
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: important things, especially with the combine, which by the way,

819
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: that has changed significantly. Also, you guys, I was one

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Speaker 1: of those guys. I was truly blessed to have the

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00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: I came from, none of that recruiting crap. I was

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Speaker 1: privy too, had to you know, basically bragg my way

824
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Speaker 1: onto Grammling for that last scholarship. No, I mean I

825
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: led the nation of New Sections, but I didn't get

826
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: any invitations to any of the big you know, combines

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Speaker 1: or any of that. I had my one experience in Jackson, Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: It was Sardan Broadcasting Network Bowl Game, Black College Bowl Game,

829
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: and Shardan was at the hotel. It was an African

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Speaker 1: American family that was in media, s H. E. R. I.

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Speaker 1: D A N. And they were they were a great

832
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: friend to HBCUs. So they sponsored this game. Man, it

833
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: was so cold in Jackson, Mississippi in February, like fifteen

834
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: hundred people showed up at the game. I didn't want

835
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: to play that game, that's how cold it was. I

836
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: felt like I was in Green Bay somewhere. I didn't

837
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: know Jackson, Mississippi could be so cold, but it was

838
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: just so uneventful. Uh happy to play in the game.

839
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: Of course, they sent some backup scouts down there to

840
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: time us. There was no one of any prominence that

841
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: was really there. So to be able to have the

842
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: career I had and starting at such a powerful place,

843
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty I'm definitely blessed to have the

844
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: career I had. But board all of these things you're

845
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: talking about, North, South, East, West Shrine, all American Senior Bowl,

846
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Yeah, most HBCU players we just

847
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: don't get a chance to participate in that and especially

848
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: since you know all the bigger, the better players are

849
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Speaker 1: going to the Power fives now and that doesn't seem

850
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Speaker 1: to be reversing course in any way. You just won't

851
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Speaker 1: be seeing any HBCU players being prominent at any of those.

852
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Speaker 1: So to be able to come out my rookie year

853
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: and my whole career, to be able to to play

854
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Speaker 1: well against some of those guys that they thought deserved

855
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: those those that reputation more than the HBCU players, it

856
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: felt real good to just stick it to the scouts

857
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: faces and stick it to all those UH owners and

858
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: offensive coordinates that just really thought they knew better. That

859
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with the how can I

860
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: put it motivation behind my career, I think my whole career,

861
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: I was still saying something like you to take that,

862
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: take that. Yeah, that was pretty much month. So I'll

863
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: tell you you mentioned how cold my first winner in Jackson, Mississippi.

864
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: It actually snowed two inches. I want you to know this,

865
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: and it's crazy. And they were so worthy to stop

866
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: that wind from just blowing right through your clothes, and

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: they were so they were so worried that we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to get back the next morning to put

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Speaker 1: out the what was then an afternoon paper too. They

870
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: put us up in hotels overnight so we could just

871
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: walk to work the next day. Well, it was two inches, right.

872
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: I grew up in Chicago. My buddy that I was

873
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: working with grew up in Detroit or in Saint Louis.

874
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: So we went back to our our apartments to get

875
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: clothes for the next day, shower, change whatever, and bring

876
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: stuff back. Right, the sports edator found out we went

877
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: home and he just gave us, Holly, you drove home.

878
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's like time, it's two inches. Come on,

879
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 1: give me a break. He just got like three minutes left.

880
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: But Everson a capsule version of how did the Cowboys

881
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: discover you? Well, Gil Brent, you know he's out there

882
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: always looking at HBCUs away. I tell people all time

883
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: he's good at finding cheap labor. And that's what that's

884
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: what Gil is good at. So you know he finds

885
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: a cheap labor from all HBCUs and some of the

886
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: smallest schools. You know, watch top Baptist Cliff Harris. He

887
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: found me just like he found Cliff. You know, it

888
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: wasn't that hard to find I mean, I was leading

889
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: the nation in interceptions and I was only four golf

890
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: of park. You were just down the road, Yeah, I'm

891
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: just down just down the street. Yeah, no doubt a

892
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: couple of couple of lights away. But I wasn't known

893
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: in that manner at that time. But being a Grambling, really,

894
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: I think that's how they looked at it. You know,

895
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: Grammling's only four four hour drive away. Uh he said,

896
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: I think he sent uh jeff Roe Pew to lay

897
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: Jeff Roe pu to come sign me, and uh, you know,

898
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what they told jeff Or to offer me,

899
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: but I have a feeling if he could work a

900
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: deal with me, he couldn't keep the difference. I think

901
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: that's I think that's how Gill said it off. So

902
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe my fifteen hundred dollars signing bonus

903
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: could have been two thy twenty five hundred. You just

904
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: never know. I don't know what jeff will walked away with.

905
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like Drew Pearson's story when

906
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: they signed him at Tulsa and after the draft undrafted

907
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: and Drew didn't even have enough He said, I didn't

908
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: hardly had enough money to put gas in my car

909
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: to drive to the hotel to meet h to meet

910
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: whoever was was, you know, scouting him or giving him

911
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: signing him to the contract. So he got a five

912
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: hundred dollars signing bonus, right, five hundred dollars signing bonus.

913
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: He went home and he basically told his wife, well,

914
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: I got to go to the dorm because the guys

915
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: are waiting for me after I signed. And she goes, well,

916
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: how much did you get? And he goes, I got

917
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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty dollars because I took the other

918
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: two fifty to buy beer for everybody. That's a lot

919
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: of beer. Well maybe maybe food too, you never know, right,

920
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: he figured, I you can get old Milwaukee, right, Yeah,

921
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: you get old Milwaukee at six pack of Old Milwaukee

922
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: for a dollar eighty nine back. Yet I wouldn't know

923
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: about that, Bill, I bet, I bet when you were

924
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: in an HBCU right at Grambling, you never thought a

925
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: graduate from one of those schools would end up being

926
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: vice president? Is that crazy? Is that crazy Casebcus? We

927
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: run the world, baby, We're taken over the world won't

928
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: be long, all right? And next week super Bowl week

929
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: it's also Hall of Fame week, Drew Pearson will be

930
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: finding out from Big David Baker. He'll probably surprise him

931
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: at his home or something next week that he's going

932
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame and so everything. I want

933
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: you to do your homework on the Hall of Fame

934
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: finalist and give your breakdown on who should be Hall

935
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: of Famers in this class this year. Nicky, you can

936
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: do the same easy work. That's easy work, and there's

937
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: so much to get to next week, which will be

938
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: it'll be our own version of media Day at the

939
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl next Tuesday, and you keep watching those Senior

940
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: Bowl practices. Okay, I am. I am going to do that.

941
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: I'll give you a full record on the show. Sign

942
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: I'll open up my big green NFL Draft scouting notebook.

943
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: I purchased the notebook last week. I'm ready to fill

944
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Speaker 1: it up. All right, We'll talk at you next week

945
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Speaker 1: here on mix Shots, Go Cowboys. This has been a

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Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

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