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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ and

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Speaker 2: my friend Baldy here. Buck's traveling back from England after

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Speaker 2: the Jags took one on the chin there against against

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Speaker 2: the Rams. So no Bucky today. He'll be back tomorrow, Weldy.

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Speaker 2: We got some games to rip through. But where were you?

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Speaker 2: First of all? Yesterday I was in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I saw the Eagles offense and the receivers, you

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Speaker 1: know kind of you know, they still have their aduldrums

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Speaker 1: where they don't do anything for period of time and

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Speaker 1: then they just explode.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, Carson was good at times and

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Speaker 3: then he was bad at times.

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Speaker 1: And the same things that have allowed Carson, you know,

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Speaker 1: to travel to six teams and six different places here

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Speaker 1: is the same things that you know. He's still mechanically

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Speaker 1: just completely falls apart at times, and it really affects

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Speaker 1: the way that he plays, despite some really good plays.

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Speaker 2: And I have no doubt. Let let's just start with

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Speaker 2: this game's already on it. I went through its interesting.

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Speaker 2: We talked last if you remember on here, and uh,

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Speaker 2: I said, Man, when I when I'm watching all the

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Speaker 2: top offenses, I feel like I'm seeing some trends here,

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Speaker 2: which is under you want to get your chunk plays,

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Speaker 2: it's under center. It's play action, it's early on and downs,

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Speaker 2: and then take your vertical shots where you can protect

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Speaker 2: the quarterback and get vertical and then you're in the gun.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the ball out quick. Let's not sit back

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Speaker 2: there and hold the ball forever. And it was like

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Speaker 2: magically the Eagles jumped on board this week.

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Speaker 3: You still have a pipeline, you know, to show that organization. DJ.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because I talked to Lane Johnson before the

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Speaker 1: game down the field and he told me watch that

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Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be understted a little bit, just

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Speaker 1: you know today baldy Uh. I talked to AJ Brown

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Speaker 1: he said similar things. And then I talked to Kevin Patullo,

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Speaker 1: who looked like he was that you know that coach

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Speaker 1: that comes down the field before the game and he's

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Speaker 1: just looking for a friend, like he's just been.

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Speaker 2: Bashed for He's exactly what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: You know, like that guy's just standing all by himself

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Speaker 1: and nobody's talking to him, and they don't might not

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Speaker 3: I end up talking to Patula for it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've known a little bit, but it's not

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Speaker 1: like I, you know, seek him out, but I knew

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Speaker 1: and so we just started talking about about almost that

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Speaker 1: DJ like how in this league right now, when these

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Speaker 1: teams are playing these shell defenses and playing these zones, like.

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Speaker 3: How you're getting your explosive plays.

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Speaker 1: And so, I mean, Jalen's not a big guy to

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Speaker 1: to do that. They got the big seventy nine yard

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Speaker 2: The other thing I was noticing just going through their video,

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Speaker 2: a man Shipley blocked his tail off in the backfield

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Speaker 2: Gosh, I didn't I mean going back to his college stuff.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember him blocking like that. Like he he

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Speaker 1: You know, going against floors, you're going to get those,

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Speaker 2: They haven't got it all rolling yet, but you know,

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Speaker 1: They you know, it's interesting because you know, they they

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Speaker 1: He's in San Francisco and he's lights out good right now.

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Speaker 2: just real quick, Baldy. I went through and watched Addison stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's a great route runner. I mean he turned

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Speaker 2: I mean just weaving down. I mean even.

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Speaker 1: They were terrible in the red zone. They had a situation.

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Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. They this new center, Blake Brandle,

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Speaker 2: Chargers smarting after the loss. Will get to in a

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Speaker 2: Chargers should be a big game. Let's get that Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. You referenced tough. I mean, just let's start

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Speaker 2: first of all, on the defense. I think the story

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Speaker 2: you mentioned in the text right, just who they're missing

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Speaker 1: Give whatever Robert Salad is doing, like it's nothing but kids.

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Speaker 1: that team. I showed a couple of plays on a

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Speaker 1: breakdown DJ their pursuit, Like there's not a team in

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Speaker 3: Plays that I put up and go, this is how

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Speaker 1: This is what happens when you do v John Robinson

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Speaker 1: doesn't have eighty one yard runs when the team pursues

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Speaker 3: But I mean, other than that.

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Speaker 1: They don't really have a pure pass rusher. But they

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Speaker 2: go watch all these runs. Yeah, So I'm watching them

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Speaker 2: and I've been. I mean, I feel like I've seen

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Speaker 2: Was making plays in there. I mean it was like

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Speaker 2: Played down hill. And I'm also, you know, seeing when

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Speaker 2: I haven't even seen your breakdown yet, but that that

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Speaker 1: All they're looking for. All they need is a little

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Speaker 3: And I think they stepped up and cleaned it up. Man.

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Speaker 1: Three points in the fourth quarter DJ And honestly, like

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Speaker 2: Well, there's some line smart enough to remember it ball

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, there's got to be some explosives baked

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Speaker 1: It's a horrible It's I've never played up there seven

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Speaker 3: I never won a game in Denver.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean there's not every receiver can run back

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Speaker 3: If you're a Giant fan, you just you just gut

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, Drew put in on a little chat here

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Speaker 3: So yeah, this this was like very similar though.

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Speaker 1: DJ they you know, they lost to Dallas, and you

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Speaker 1: Had games one against good teams and you know, let

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Speaker 1: it slip away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough loss for them, But again I'm hopeful

435
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Speaker 2: and optimistic if you're a Giants fan, just based off

436
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Speaker 2: where the quarterback is right now, Washington Dallas. You mentioned

437
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Speaker 2: the Dallas team there, Baldy. They doubled up Washington. Jade

438
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Speaker 2: Daniels gets hurt forty four to twenty two. Dallas wins,

439
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Speaker 2: and it was kind of a was a Dak Prescott show.

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Speaker 1: I just play this game when I watched Dak, and

441
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Speaker 1: I actually did it with Flacco the other night. I'm

442
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Speaker 1: literally just going one two three, ball out, one two three.

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Speaker 3: There is a rhythm. I mean, I don't care if

444
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Speaker 3: it's a three step or five step drop.

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Speaker 1: He's hitching and he's throwing and however they're obviously it

446
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Speaker 1: helps that you have pickings and you have CD back,

447
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter if it's Jake Ferguson or who

448
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Speaker 1: he's thrown to right now the ball. I have never

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Speaker 1: seen Dak play this good. Ever, I don't care if

450
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Speaker 1: he had a Mari Cooper whoever. He's playing with like

451
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Speaker 1: his confidence level right now to see the field, to

452
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Speaker 1: know where his guys are when he has to throw

453
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Speaker 1: a jump ball to pickings, like he doesn't miss right now.

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Speaker 3: But I just thought, dude, I.

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Speaker 1: Just think in watching him because this is the third

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Speaker 1: time now DJ, they've put up forty plus, so this

457
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Speaker 1: isn't a fluke. This is what they can do. And

458
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Speaker 1: they got they got Booker back in the offensive line.

459
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Speaker 1: He got their guys all up front, so they ran

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Speaker 1: the ball really good. With Javonte, he looks like he

461
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Speaker 1: did his rookie year or even going back to North Carolina.

462
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Speaker 1: But so he's given him some real pop. But Dak

463
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Speaker 1: has a rhythm to this offense. It is as good

464
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Speaker 1: a timing rhythm offense as ers in the league right now.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things that impressed me the

466
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Speaker 2: most going through his stuff in this game was I

467
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Speaker 2: always think about somethings with defenses almost like whack them all,

468
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Speaker 2: where you kind of they're trying to make late movement

469
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Speaker 2: and trying to they play kid of invert to cover

470
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Speaker 2: two on one of them, and it's just they're trying

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Speaker 2: to catch you with a late movement. And it's like

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Speaker 2: Dak is he'd be on leave a whackamole player because

473
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Speaker 2: it's like he just see that boom boom boom boom boom,

474
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Speaker 2: and then the next thing you know, ceedee lambs throwing

475
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Speaker 2: his hand up and you're splitting them and gashing him

476
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Speaker 2: like he's he looks very comfortable and poised, and none

477
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Speaker 2: of that late movement stuff's bother him at all. The

478
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Speaker 2: voids he's finding them.

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Speaker 1: To your point though, DJ the throw to the CD

480
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Speaker 1: for the big touchdown that was you know, play action

481
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Speaker 1: under center. You know, Max protected, Max it up and

482
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Speaker 1: really literally he could have thrown to Pickens or CD

483
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Speaker 1: like they were.

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Speaker 3: Both down the field. But I mean, you know they

485
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Speaker 3: they run into each other.

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Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, like I've been watching this Washington defense,

487
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Speaker 1: like people are just going after Lattimore like left and right,

488
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Speaker 1: like he just is not the same guy. Like I

489
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Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do, but the the accumulation

490
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Speaker 1: of injuries over the year, he's not anywhere near the

491
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Speaker 1: type of guy that would just challenge you know, big

492
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Speaker 1: ex receivers at the line of scrimmage and they couldn't

493
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Speaker 1: get off. It's they're running by him right now.

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Speaker 2: I know coming into the Charger game that they had

495
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Speaker 2: given up the most explosive pass plays because I was,

496
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Speaker 2: you know, getting ready prepping for that game. I got it,

497
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Speaker 2: especially after this when I got to their their fault

498
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Speaker 2: holding firm to that.

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Speaker 1: It looks at he's looking at takeaways and explosives and

500
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Speaker 1: if you're taking it away and you're limiting the explosives,

501
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Speaker 1: like you have a pretty good chance of winning these

502
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Speaker 1: games on Sunday, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels gets hurt when it's hamstring, so we'll

504
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Speaker 2: see how long that's going to be. This feels like

505
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Speaker 2: and this happens in sports. It's not just the NFL.

506
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 2: It happens in all types of sports. I think of uh,

507
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Speaker 2: you know us C Lincoln Riley's first year there. They

508
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 2: won all those games, but it was almost like, you know, guys,

509
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Speaker 2: this is not the schedule kind of fell our way.

510
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Speaker 2: We kind of got some breaks, like we're ahead, this

511
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Speaker 2: is ahead of schedule, not necessarily indicative of where we are.

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Speaker 2: I think last year we're kind of looking back at Washington,

513
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Speaker 2: go man. Everything kind of lined up for them. Well,

514
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Speaker 2: it all kind of worked. You got the the squeezed

515
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Speaker 2: the last little juice out of some veterans, and it

516
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Speaker 2: just kind of it popped form. And now I feel

517
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Speaker 2: like it's kind of come. It's come, not say crashing down,

518
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Speaker 2: but like this is probably more the the arc that

519
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Speaker 2: I thought they were on when Kingsbury got there, uh

520
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Speaker 2: you know, dan Quinn got there, Jane Daniels all coming

521
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Speaker 2: in there together. I thought this is probably three. You

522
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Speaker 2: have the year three, you'll see this tank take off.

523
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Speaker 2: Sometimes it goes out of order though chronologically.

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Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things. One I remember his first

525
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Speaker 1: game last year, Jade Daniels like he ran, he played

526
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Speaker 1: played Tampa and Todd Bowles split some every play and

527
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Speaker 1: he ran it sixteen times, a lot of them just

528
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Speaker 1: escaping the rush, and I thought, this guy's not going

529
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Speaker 1: to survive. Now they kept running him, and they're still

530
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Speaker 1: running him, and now he's starting to like these injuries

531
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Speaker 1: are coming because he's you know, he's not a big guy,

532
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Speaker 1: he's frail, he's tough as gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very.

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Speaker 1: Narrow, and then you know, you take mclaar and you

535
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Speaker 1: take Debo, you take the top three receivers out, like

536
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Speaker 1: you're just going to be limited with any kind of

537
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Speaker 1: attacking that poor secondary of the Cowboys, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: have that ability. So it's you know, but some of

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Speaker 1: what you're saying is is definitely true. I'd like to

540
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Speaker 1: see him a little bit more at full strength. But

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Speaker 1: they did not get the running game going against Dallas,

542
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Speaker 1: and that had been their achilles heel all season long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Let's take quick pause, we'll come back,

544
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Speaker 2: We'll get to three more games here really exciting weekend

545
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: of football. Some crazy games, one of them not exciting.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that one, all right, Baldi. The game.

547
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Speaker 2: I was at Man I studying this game, getting ready.

548
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you look at records and you're like, okay, is

549
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: this kind of a fake five and one? You know,

550
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: like who have they played? What have they done? And

551
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 2: then I studied that the Colts all week getting ready

552
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 2: for the game, like no, no, no, this this offense

553
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: is very very good. And defensively I thought there was

554
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: some things maybe you could attack, especially because the secondary

555
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: injuries that they had. But offensively, this is a this

556
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: is a difficult team. I don't know if you follow him, Baldi,

557
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: but Dan Casey is you know a guy that all

558
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Speaker 2: these coaches follow that does a great job of posting

559
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Speaker 2: plays and he's you got to look at his He

560
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Speaker 2: did a full ten play breakdown. It just and it's

561
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Speaker 2: just the place. And then he gives a description of

562
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Speaker 2: what you play. Call is of ten plays for Shane

563
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Speaker 2: Stike and you can see the stuff he's doing is

564
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Speaker 2: in like he is next level with the stuff he's

565
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 2: doing offensively right now, a lot of insert stuff where

566
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Speaker 2: you've got tight end you've got two tight ends where

567
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Speaker 2: you've got the outside tight end releasing inside the tight

568
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Speaker 2: end next to him, and then it just looks like

569
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Speaker 2: you're going there to block somebody. Then he's gone, and

570
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: then you get a lot of just hold and release

571
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: stuff from guys on the perimeter and they're getting lost

572
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: and they're getting guys wide open. And then hey, you

573
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Speaker 2: get a third and ten, you want to take a

574
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: shot down the field. It's a double chip with like

575
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: a deep deep curl and a deep deep corner, but

576
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: understanding how to marry what you need protection wise to

577
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: get the ball vertically, and then not to mention all

578
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: the just the different ways they're running, like you know,

579
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 2: the counter stuff and same side poles and everything else

580
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Speaker 2: they're doing in the run game like it he was

581
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Speaker 2: as we talked about players getting in a rhythm, Shane

582
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Speaker 2: Stikeen got in a rhythm in that game. It was

583
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Speaker 2: it was surgery what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty interesting, you know because it started last year.

585
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Speaker 1: But you know, they they drafted Bortolini and they drafted

586
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Speaker 1: gun Salvi's you know, middle round guys that are starters,

587
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: and they let Will Fryes and Ryan Kelly go and

588
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: they rebuilt that offense line. Those kids are great players,

589
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: like tough kids. So that's up front. How many different

590
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Speaker 1: places did Tyler Warren line up?

591
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Speaker 2: You know, he's all over the place. He's everywhere, you know,

592
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: and so they ran duo with him at fullback and

593
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: he just cleans it up.

594
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Speaker 1: Okay, So so I've been watching this now because you know,

595
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Speaker 1: people want to like even Daniel Jones is that he's

596
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: being asked after the game, like you know, nobody expected

597
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: this and like, well, you know, you didn't do your work.

598
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Speaker 3: But you know, regardless, he's not making any mistakes DJ No,

599
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: he used to the ball is going where's like he's

600
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Speaker 3: seeing the field and that. But he's even when he

601
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Speaker 3: would see the field before he'd missed a throw, like

602
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Speaker 3: he wasn't an accurate guy, Like he's stick accurate right

603
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 3: now with the ball and his eyes just you know,

604
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: he trusts his eyes. But you know what Steichen is

605
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: doing with these tight ends, like running him through the

606
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Speaker 3: line where the guys are getting lost and they're getting

607
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Speaker 3: deep behind him, and and like that's that's been a

608
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Speaker 3: stateboard I feel like every week and honestly, I'm they

609
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Speaker 3: able to beat in the rams. If they didn't have

610
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Speaker 3: a knucklehead play, you know by the receiver, they could

611
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: easily be under that. Yeah, they want to play if

612
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: if you want to play that style, they can line

613
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: up and do that. Because Jonathan Taylor's gonna he's gonna

614
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: give you a bunch like he's he's on his game.

615
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Speaker 3: He looks really awesome.

616
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Speaker 2: He looks aw and.

617
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Speaker 1: Josh Downs has his role like everybody's got a defined

618
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: role on that team.

619
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Speaker 3: Right now.

620
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: Pierce made some plays down the field in this game.

621
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Speaker 2: Downs was out and then I mean they're big, they're physical,

622
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: and Jonathan Taylor has adds the speed element to it.

623
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Speaker 2: It's just it is a very well coached offensive team.

624
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: The offensive line is very physical. It was It was

625
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: quite impressive watching them in person. And the other thing

626
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Speaker 2: I would say is if you did, if you if

627
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Speaker 2: you did a breakdown Baldie and that if you could

628
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Speaker 2: insert you think about like the halo rule for a

629
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Speaker 2: punt returner, right yeah, if you did. And I think

630
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: this goes to why Daniel Jones has been so accurate.

631
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: You go to him when he's getting ready to release

632
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: the ball and you just put a halo circle. Nobody there.

633
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: I mean he's started like clean pocket. Yeah, clean pocket

634
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: after clean pocket after clean pocket.

635
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: Well they they you know, protection first, so all the

636
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: chipping and everything on the outside like that, that's going

637
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: to be a big part. They did the same thing

638
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: to the rams to be able to make sure that

639
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones going to be clean. So I agree with that.

640
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: I think that uh. I always said this about Quentin

641
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: Nelson and it's really implies this year. Like there was

642
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: a time when Zeke was running in Dallas and Zach

643
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: Martin was the right guard, and he used to say

644
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: that no matter where the play starts, it always ends

645
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: up Like Zach Martin, I feel like right now, like

646
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: no matter where the run starts, it finishes behind when

647
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: in the way that he's playing right now because he

648
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: you know, when he first came into this leg, he

649
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: was just you know, he was just drilling people into

650
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: the dirt. He doesn't really play that style where he's

651
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: just trying to you know, get pancake box. But he's

652
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: so good right now. Man, he's his endurances. He's running

653
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: every play. The only pool to the right with him

654
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: or to the left with him. He's so good in space.

655
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I don't know why I was thinking

656
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: of this. We had an old scout he used to say, uh,

657
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: you know, talking about Corner, and he's like, look, I'm

658
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: not saying it's always his fault, but he's always at

659
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: the scene of the crime, and he's got all over Yeah,

660
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying I'm not saying that. Quentin's yeah,

661
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: reason why all these things are happening, But he always

662
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: seems to be in the picture at the scene of

663
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: the crime when when things are going down.

664
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: But he's let me ask you this because I talked

665
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: to lou Anarumo a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I mean,

666
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: first of all, he was bragging about the forest Buckner

667
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: like he had had never had a three technique like that,

668
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: and it's amazing. I don't know how many years Buck's

669
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: been going on, probably almost ten years almost, like he's

670
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: still got so much juice.

671
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: But they were really.

672
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: They're really having trouble with some run fits, you know,

673
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: and how they were doing things to really fix the

674
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: run game compared to what they were doing a year ago,

675
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: the year before that. And then I thought they had

676
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: some issues at Corner. I was curious just how because

677
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the defense.

678
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there. The charge was I mean Herbert threw

679
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: for four undred yards. I mean they moved the ball

680
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: up and down the field. They had you know, Grover

681
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: Stewart pops the ball up in the ear to himself

682
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: and picks it off the end one drive. Herbert tried

683
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: to force the ball in the end zone. For picking

684
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: the end zone. So I mean that they that was.

685
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: It should have been a It should have been a

686
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: high thirties forty game for the chart offense. Ronde Gatzon

687
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: I'll get to in a minute, had a huge game.

688
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: He's got two really good games back to back.

689
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: But I want to finish.

690
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: Yes, there were two really good rookie tight ends. But

691
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: to Forest Buckner, nine pressures, two sacks, and when you

692
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: go through and watch it ball that this is my

693
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: one recommendation. I like to give you one Baldy breakdown

694
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: wreck for the week that I'd love to see you do.

695
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: Just look at the toolkit of the Forest Buckner in

696
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: those nine pressures. Because you watch some guys like I

697
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: remember we had Trevor Price when I you know he

698
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: used to be he was with him in Baltimore. He

699
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: was unbelievable. It was swim swim, swim, swim, swim skinny

700
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: like the Forest Buckner. You watch it. So he wins

701
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: on a twist, he wins on a push poll, he

702
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: wins on an inside spin, which you don't see from

703
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: interior d Lineman. Ever, he wins with a long arm.

704
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: You'll see him. He'll he'll get doubled. He'll stack two

705
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: moves together and get home like he's showing you the

706
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: whole toolkit of in his year ten for him, this

707
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: is ten years in the NFL, and he was going

708
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: I was friendly fire. He's going up against his you know,

709
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: another former duck back there and Herbert, and you know

710
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: when you know you're a big dude when you swallow

711
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: up justin Herbert when you get back there, which he

712
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: did a couple of times. But the Forest Buckner playing

713
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: at a very high level. Those guys are good. Those

714
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: two DT's him and Grover Stewart against the run are

715
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: really really good good. They can they can shut.

716
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: It down a lot. I saw a lot he got home.

717
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: He got home. I mean they got to I mean

718
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: I thought, overall, considering how many times they threw it

719
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: that the you know, the Chargers collection of backup tackles there.

720
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: You know, they hung in there as good as they

721
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: could and they threw the ball pretty well. But inside

722
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: that to me is the forest buckner. If you're getting

723
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: ready to play them like you circle him defensively, and

724
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: then the secondary they're missing some guys. Yeah, and so

725
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: there was there was There was a lot of opportunities

726
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: down the field, but they hey, do you do what

727
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: you got to do. You get turnovers and they were

728
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: able to do that yeah too, So that was that

729
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: was big there, But real quick on Gadson seven for

730
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: a Bucks sixty four. He just keeps getting better and better.

731
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: In Conklin's not even I mean I think he's that's

732
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 2: clearly he's he's beat him out. But you look at this,

733
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: you know, the concern for me on the Charger side

734
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: of things. Defensively, it's not like the Calvary's coming. They

735
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: got Khalil Mack back in this game. You know, he

736
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: a ton, but they'll get more of him and he'll

737
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: get healthier that that'll help them going forward. They were

738
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: missing the safety in this ball game, so you'll get

739
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 2: low he's gone, and I wonder, you know, a loowie

740
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: in terms of the you know, communication side of things.

741
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: That might be something they miss a little bit, but

742
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: have Elijah Molden out, he'll he'll be back. So defensively,

743
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's a ton more upside. They got

744
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: to figure some things out communication wise in the back end.

745
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: Offensively there, I would be optimistic just because Joe Walt's

746
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: really close. I think there's a good chance he plays

747
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: Thursday night. That'll make a big difference for him. Then

748
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: you look at eventually down the line, you get hamped

749
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: and back, you know, the running by the Rooi running back,

750
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: who's playing great, And then you start looking at it

751
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: going Okay, Maconkey's coming around, Keenan's playing well, Quentin Johnson

752
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: was back this week, and now all of a sudden

753
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: you got this tight end and Gatston who's who's making

754
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: some plays. You could see by the end of the

755
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: year they could be really, really dynamic as the offensive

756
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 2: line work. In fact, yeah, they got to survive and

757
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: that's why this Thursday night game will be big for

758
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: them against Minnesota coming in there. All right, Baldi, I

759
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: didn't I think I showed you this text beforehand, and

760
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: I think I would have time this morning to get

761
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: to the Vegas case game. To offer anything to what

762
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: you've done on this I have.

763
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: It was so bad, so one sided. I figured that's

764
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: not gonna be.

765
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, No, no it wouldn't. It's not a

766
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: high PERSI I still.

767
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: The Raiders last week, and I knew how the only

768
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: team that could have beaten last week DJ was Tennessee.

769
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: That's the only team that could have beaten.

770
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: It took me four minutes in forty four seconds to

771
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: watch every offensive snap from Vegas in this game. I

772
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: don't remember ever doing that now. I mean I rewound

773
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: a couple of plays a couple times. But if I

774
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: mean I was it was I was joking with you.

775
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: I mean they could if you were going to do

776
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: the theme of the Raiders offense, it'd be run, run sack.

777
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: I mean that was. That was That was a painful watch.

778
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: How about some numbers? Did this thing? Three first downs

779
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: over seven on third down ended up being thirty plays

780
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: when you count for penalties, thirty plays with ninety five

781
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: total yards. And I mean, I'm just I'm right down penalties,

782
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: negating first downs, drop sacks, throwing underneath the sticks on

783
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: like third and seven, third and eight, run run sack,

784
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: you're trying to run quick screen after quick screen against

785
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: maybe one of the best tackling secondaries in the NFL.

786
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just catching, catching tackle.

787
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: Tr mcduffey and Jayats.

788
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, those guys don't miss tackles. So it was

789
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: faulty from a game plan standpoint, faulty from an execution standpoint.

790
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: But I mean, hey, give Kansas City credit. That Kansas

791
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: City had thirty first downs on offense and Vegas ran

792
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: thirty plays. I don't know that's ever been done before.

793
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, did you ever see Rice back.

794
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Obviously he made a difference already, but we already knew

795
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: as soon as Amy Worthy came back in that offense,

796
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: this whole thing just changed.

797
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: And now you've got Braden Smith working into the offense.

798
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: And you know, people don't want to hear that Mahomes

799
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: and Kansas City are back at four to three, but

800
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: they're back all the way back, like they're just gonna

801
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: be tough to be because they're gonna they're gonna score thirty,

802
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: Like any of the dollgrooms they had last year are gone.

803
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: Like this is a this is this offense, and you

804
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: give Andy Tinkering time at night with Mahomes, like nobody's

805
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: better drawing up new play week in week out, and

806
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, but the like I'm curious, like if I

807
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: was there in this one because I saw it last week.

808
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: Like you when your offense is that bad the way

809
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: the Jets are that bad, you know you can't score.

810
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of time before your defense just

811
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: starts walking on the field and off the field. I

812
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: don't care if you're Max Crosby who you are, Like,

813
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: you just know you're not scoring points. Like it just

814
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: wears everybody down.

815
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you also get to the point

816
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: where you're like, we have to create a turnover. We

817
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: have to do something outside of our our normal routine here.

818
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: We're not gonna win, like we got to we gotta

819
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: get points, we got to get possessions, all that stuff.

820
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: So we also have Omar Norman a lot towards ACL

821
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: so he's out for the year. That's unfortunate. He's gone

822
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: to hit some injuries. I believe in Tennessee they're kind

823
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: of going back into his history a little bit. But

824
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: that's a tough one. Let's get to the last game here.

825
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: I was in there for this one in the studio.

826
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: Bucky was at the game. I don't know. I don't

827
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: think Bucky's going to miss being here to discuss it.

828
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: The Rams thirty five to seven over there in London

829
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: over Jacksonville. Just an anemic, anemic performance from the Jags

830
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: and the Rams. Matthew Stafford, I mean, if he's not

831
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: the MVP, he's in the top three right now. I

832
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: mean he's putting together a monster season for the Rams.

833
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Five touchdowns in this game.

834
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's without Puka, So you know, DeVante

835
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: gets the action and he you know, I mean you're

836
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: on the one yard line and DeVante's out there like

837
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna win.

838
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: He's just gonna win.

839
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 1: Like there's you can't really bracket him, you can't really

840
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: double him. He's gonna win with his releases and Stafford

841
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: just I talked to DeVante about this a couple of

842
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: weeks ago, like how did you build a timing with Stafford?

843
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: And he didn't even practice in preseason, like he wasn't

844
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: out there, and uh, he said, you know, we're just veterans.

845
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: We just talked through this all this stuff, like we

846
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: know exactly what we want to do. We don't actually

847
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: have to go through it all the time.

848
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: But they have.

849
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: Amazing chemistry, you know, and you get Puka back with

850
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: that defense in that defensive front right now. They destroyed

851
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: Jacksonville in that game.

852
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: So to give you an idea of the season that

853
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Stafford's on pace for, He's on pace for forty five

854
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty two yards, forty one touchdowns, five picks.

855
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: That's the that's the pace that he's on right now.

856
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: So last year Baker threw for over forty touchdowns and

857
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: had over forty five hundred yards and he was the

858
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: tenth quarterback in NFL history to ever do that. So

859
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: you Stafford is right in that top ten category on

860
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: this page. And I don't know if it's going to

861
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: change the way that he's thrown it right now. He's

862
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: he's got two guys that he and in just the

863
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: design of offense and the way it is right now.

864
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 3: Like I can see him putting finishing at that pace.

865
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: The one positive on the Jacksonville standpoint, Travis Hunter has

866
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: one hundred yard game, gets his first touchdown, and I

867
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: lobbied for it in the pregame of this thing. But

868
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: you know, I think they're viewing him as a gadget guy,

869
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, And so it's just been quick screens and

870
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: hetches and tunnel screens, and I'm like, this guy's more

871
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: than that. Now. This guy, when I watched him at Colorado,

872
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: reminded me of Garrett Wilson or Ohio State. Like, this

873
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: guy understands how to get out of in and out

874
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: of breaks. This guy can route guys up, and this

875
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: guy can play above the rim and win fifty to

876
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: fifty balls down the field. Like I think you're short

877
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: changing him to make him just your reverse guy and

878
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: you you know, and your quick screen guy. So of

879
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: course he gets touched on a deep seven round, a

880
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: deep corner out in this game, and he gets interfered on,

881
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: still powers through it and gets into the end zone.

882
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: He catches a they throw it like I assume it

883
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: was intended a back shoulder steamball to him, which he

884
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: adjusts to him, makes a play, he throttles down in

885
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: zone because he shows the feel and instincts and awareness

886
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: to do that. And they still tried to mix in

887
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 2: a couple quick quick hitters to him, which went nowhere.

888
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: But that's what I've been lobbying for. Look, if you're

889
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: going to make the commitment to say he's an offensive player,

890
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: which I know and was told in the draft process

891
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: he prefers he wants to do both, but given his choice,

892
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: he prefers to play offense. So if you're going to

893
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: major in offense and minor in defense, well, if you're

894
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: going to major in offense and I need you to

895
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: be a receiver, let's not make you a gadget. I

896
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: make you a dang receiver. And that I feel like

897
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: when they've done that this year and they've let him

898
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: get down the field, that's when he made the plays.

899
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: And and really, Brian Thomas is having a misery.

900
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: We can't catch.

901
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, Like is his confidence just

902
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: shot because he put up ten touchdowns? But he was

903
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: the guy last year and now he's had one drop

904
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: after another all year long.

905
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: I think he had over twelve hundred yards and ten

906
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: touchdowns last year. Yeah, and I'm watching him and I'm like,

907
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: he has zero confidence. And I feel bad for I mean,

908
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: because Trevor's gonna get nicked because of you know he

909
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: has He's got a little bit of the disease of

910
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: his misses or bad misses, like you know, you know,

911
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: you know it's a guy in accurate MISSI yeah, just

912
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: it just takes off and sales it. You know who

913
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 2: it reminds me of just from it. When Lamar Jackson

914
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: was coming out, it was hard to get over like

915
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: the misses because you're like, man, I see these amazing plays,

916
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: but man, some of the misses are so bad.

917
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: Would you think it's mechanics? Like is his feet set?

918
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: Is he finally threw.

919
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: Like balls taken off on him? I just don't think.

920
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: I think, honestly more than in a mechanical issue because

921
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: I didn't see and jumped out to me. From that standpoint,

922
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: I think it's just a guy's confidence is not is

923
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: nowhere to be found, okay, and there's no conviction. You

924
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: always talk about like you want to throw with conviction,

925
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: trust it and rip it. And I just kind of

926
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: unsure what he's doing. And then the other part of

927
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: it is there's freaking four or five drops every game,

928
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: and you add those into the mix, not only do

929
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: your stats improve, I think his confidence comes along with that.

930
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: No question, because they could have won a couple of

931
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: games this year if they if they just caught the ball.

932
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: I know, Buck, he's talked about it a bunch, you know,

933
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: but it's uh, he he doesn't have the best group around,

934
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: but what he does, miss though.

935
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: I had ten foot sale jobs, you know. And you're like,

936
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: what the heck happened here? Now it was rainy. It

937
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: looked it was rainy there and a little wet, so

938
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: maybe that's maybe that's part of it.

939
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: But I mean they've played that stuff before.

940
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah they got I mean, and they were one of

941
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: those teams. It was four and two coming into that game,

942
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: I believe. And you're like, what do you think about him?

943
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: I'm just curious. I just had anything to do with

944
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: the game, or maybe it did.

945
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: But the way the rams said, you know what, We're

946
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: just we're just gonna leave on We'll get there on Saturday,

947
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: we'll walk through, give the guys off and moves, go

948
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: play the game like you like you're going down to

949
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: San like you're going to San Francisco to play, you know,

950
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: like they took that approach. It's kind of and the

951
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: players were like, we just trust, you know, we just

952
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: trusted the science is what it's good. And evidently they

953
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: started so fast in the game that you know, maybe

954
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: that changes the approach of a lot of teams going

955
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: over there.

956
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they stayed in Baltimore, so my same game. So

957
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: coming from the West coast, they got on that time zone,

958
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: just stayed on that time zone for the week, because

959
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 2: that's a long haul from the West Coast to get

960
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: over there. When I when to I.

961
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: Think it was Anthony Trained Camden Yards.

962
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: They were at Camden Yards. Yeah, I saw some video

963
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: of Stafford out there with a glove throwing the baseball

964
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: around a little bit. But uh, the Chargers when this

965
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: is going back to Anthony Lynn years. I believe when

966
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 2: I was this was like eighteen maybe. Uh, they played

967
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: the Titans over there, and they had played Cleveland the

968
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: week before, so they had stayed in Cleveland, right, and

969
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: just stayed on that East Coast time and then went

970
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: from Cleveland over to London and beat Thet's over there.

971
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: So everybody has different theories on it. But you know,

972
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: you know who's you know who's crushed by this whole development.

973
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: It's money by our buddy. So Matt Muney Smith, who's

974
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: played by play with the Chargers, he's like, oh no, man,

975
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, he likes getting over these international cities.

976
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 2: He likes exploring he likes being able.

977
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 3: To take a sight see.

978
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't like this idea of just jetting in

979
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: and jet now. He feels like he's going to miss

980
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: out on his travel experience.

981
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that's what the off season is for.

982
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: I've done all those.

983
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're all over that, Hey, Baldy, this was fun, man,

984
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: damn through it, miss miss Buckey. But we'll have him

985
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: back tomorrow. A couple of Monday nighters. By the way,

986
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: uh as as a fan, put your fan hat on.

987
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: Do you like the double Monday nighters?

988
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: Ah?

989
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean this last week when they were playing

990
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: like they staggered the games, so I had one game

991
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: on one screen and the other game on the other screen.

992
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: It was actually, you know, it was actually kind of

993
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: fun to sit there and watch both games at the

994
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: same time.

995
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: Like they're staggering tonight.

996
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: So one fin this is one starts like that's a

997
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: little late when we start as early as we're starting,

998
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: So I don't think I'm gonna finish.

999
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, the second game, it's too much.

1000
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: I just think one game is enough.

1001
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: I'm a one game guy. Man. I I don't I

1002
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: love I love football. It's hard to say it's too much.

1003
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: But it's like just like having the standalone one game.

1004
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, I know, but you got two good games tonight,

1005
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: so yeah, we'll see like if one, you know, if

1006
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: one's no good, maybe you'll stay up and watch the

1007
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: second one.

1008
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got that plus a big game seven in

1009
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: baseball too, keep an eye on. Yeah, all right, Baldy

1010
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: to be the best brother. I appreciate you, man, we'll

1011
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: see all right there he goes. Appreciate Baldi coming on

1012
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: each and every Monday here, uh, breaking these games down.

1013
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: We'll get back tomorrow. I got bad news for everybody.

1014
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: It looks like rtt Lewis had another good week in

1015
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: the rookie draft unfortunately, so we'll hear about that all

1016
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: tomorrow when he joins the show, and we have our

1017
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: rookie draft for this upcoming week as well. And his

1018
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: swishers had to keep winning, man, So he's feeling good

1019
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: about life. Meanwhile, Buck's Carolina, it's our heels. No point now, Well,

1020
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: we'll welcome those guys back tomorrow. Appreciate you guys. See

1021
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: you next time I move the sticks.

1022
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Mhmm