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Speaker 2: That's not McCovey cove So that means it's another episode

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Speaker 2: of splash Hit Territory. I'm FP Santangelo, joined by my

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Speaker 2: frequent contributor Susan Sluster. Susan, I was at the Hurricanes

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Speaker 2: game last night, the Fiesta Bowl. My voice is shot,

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Speaker 3: You know what, I applaud you just for being able

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Speaker 3: know you went a little hard and congratulations. We will

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Speaker 3: talk for college football maybe at the end. We got

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Speaker 3: to get to a lot of baseball stuff. We have

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Speaker 3: a special guest today. We've got Giants Farm director director

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Speaker 3: of player Development, Kyle Haynes is going to be joining

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Speaker 3: us in just a couple of minutes. But I think

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Speaker 2: Talk prospects in minor baseball. You guys got to subscribe

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, after you do that, we have

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Speaker 2: a special guest today. Senior direct Senior director Player development

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty two for The Giants, Kyle Haynes joins

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Speaker 1: Kyle, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I think? I think your mic is muted?

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Speaker 1: It set it down here? Did you unmute it? You good?

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Speaker 4: There we go?

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Speaker 1: Sor right there we go? Hey, thanks for coming on today,

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Speaker 4: I'll work on my I skills here shortly.

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Speaker 3: None of us know what we're doing when it comes

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Speaker 4: Hi, Kyle, Hey, Susan, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We thought that you would be the right person to

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Speaker 4: The amount of respect that we should have for major

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Speaker 4: in the base in the minor league world, because the

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Speaker 4: minor leagues in baseball is tough. Even in the major leagues.

439
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Speaker 4: It's glamorous for nine innings for those guys. But the

440
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Speaker 4: other part, the families, the struggle, the fear of getting

441
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Speaker 4: sent down. As soon as they see somebody coming off

442
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 4: the il, they know somebody's getting optioned. When someone's coming

443
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 4: off to sixty day l they know someone's getting dfaied.

444
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Speaker 4: So the mental battle of the major league or minor

445
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Speaker 4: league player. You don't want them looking out of their

446
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Speaker 4: corner eye think and I'm just going to go play

447
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 4: college quarterback somewhere as a fallback plan where I'm going

448
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 4: to become a pitcher if i don't hit enough. You

449
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 4: want them focused in all their mentality and their competitive

450
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 4: spirit on the task in front of him. So I

451
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 4: thought that that was a huge testament in Bryce was

452
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 4: even when he struggled, he never once went, hey, and

453
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 4: when am I gonna pitch? We said, we'll get there.

454
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 4: When we get there, and you focus on hitting, And

455
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 4: he's done that tremendously.

456
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Speaker 2: Hey, how does he throw? If he got on the

457
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: mound right now? What's his vila like?

458
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Speaker 4: So he was up to ninety seven early in his

459
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 4: high school spring. So, but he settled in late in

460
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 4: the year more of the low nineties, which I think

461
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 4: which soured a lot of teams and thinking he could pitch.

462
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 4: So he kind of settled more. If he went to

463
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 4: pitch today and we got him in shape, I think

464
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 4: he'd sit in ninety three ninety four right now.

465
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, just kind of job my memory. But how

466
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Speaker 3: is Reggie Crawford, what's he doing right now.

467
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Speaker 4: Reggie's in rehab. He's doing the rehab. It's going to

468
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 4: be a slow process, but he's doing mentally and personality,

469
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Speaker 4: you know, Susan at least enough, he's doing phenomenal. His

470
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Speaker 4: his spirit is always strong and happy. He's a happy

471
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Speaker 4: human being. But yeah, I mean he's he's had obviously

472
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Speaker 4: a lot of setbacks and he's got a big mountain

473
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Speaker 4: in front of him. But we're hopeful that, you know,

474
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Speaker 4: if we can just get him in into some game

475
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 4: by the end of this year, I think that's a

476
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 4: good win and a healthy Reggie Crawford's a really good

477
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Speaker 4: Reggie Crawford.

478
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Speaker 1: So how Saydan bird Song doing?

479
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Speaker 2: Did we get we dig him right mentally in the

480
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Speaker 2: offseason physically, because that guy's got so much upside. When

481
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: he's good, he's so good and you could see the confidence.

482
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: Exuding on the mound. He'll throw a curve ball and

483
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: be like, whoa, that was nasty.

484
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: You could read his lips, and then we saw the

485
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Speaker 2: opposite when he couldn't throw a strike.

486
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Speaker 1: So tell us about how Hayden's doing.

487
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Speaker 4: Hayden's doing great. You know, he moved out here this offseason.

488
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Speaker 4: I think it's the first year he's permanently moved to Scottsdale,

489
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Speaker 4: so he's I mean it was like November first. I

490
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Speaker 4: think he was already at the complex working and yeah,

491
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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of people had good heart to

492
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Speaker 4: hearts with him, and he's in as good as space

493
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Speaker 4: as I've ever seen him in. Christian Wonders, one of

494
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Speaker 4: our new pitching coaches, lives in Scottsdale, so he comes in.

495
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Speaker 4: He's formed a really good relationship with the Hayden bird Song.

496
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Speaker 4: All the coaches have as well. Frank Anderson came out

497
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 4: before the holidays, and I think they really hit it

498
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Speaker 4: off as well. But you know, I think the new

499
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 4: group's connecting with him. Hayden looks in a great spot mentally.

500
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: I know personally, I'm not trying to be his agent,

501
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: but you know, when you compare the amount of college

502
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Speaker 4: innings he had compared to players that we comp him

503
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Speaker 4: to in the big leagues or minor league inttings to

504
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: the players we comp him to, he's so low experience

505
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 4: level in all compare it to my golf game, which

506
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: isn't very good. I don't know how I fps is

507
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 4: right now, but but like you, if FP's played a

508
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Speaker 4: thousand rounds of golf in his life and I've only

509
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 4: played one hundred and fifty. You know, it's going to

510
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 4: take me a while to be able to have that

511
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: touch and feel from hole to hole. Well, the same

512
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 4: thing with pitching. If you have less reps, your ability

513
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Speaker 4: to make these adjustments on especially the touch element of

514
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: the game is going to be much different from player

515
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: to player. And Hayden, if you'll remember, if you watch

516
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 4: out each outing like I have, I know I watch

517
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 4: him all the time, it feels like but you know,

518
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: it just felt like one or two hitters he kind

519
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 4: of lose it and then really struggle to get himself

520
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 4: back and then it was like the look up and

521
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 4: four hitters later. He kind of just didn't didn't know

522
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 4: how to correct himself on the mound and didn't have

523
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 4: that knowledge of in that library of experience to go

524
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Speaker 4: back to on self correcting a miss.

525
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Speaker 3: He's a little unusual in that he's a guy who

526
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Speaker 3: was kind of almost like a converted reliever to starter too,

527
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: which kind of reduces the innings and the experience level

528
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Speaker 3: of going through lineups. You know, one time, second time,

529
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Speaker 3: third time, could you see him you know, since I

530
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Speaker 3: asked about possible guys in the bullpen coming from the system,

531
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Speaker 3: could you see him at some point maybe being a

532
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: relief option if if all things are sort of set

533
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: in the rotation, given that experience and then also what

534
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: he went through last year.

535
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think he's so good he could

536
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: do either. You know, I think I think his biggest

537
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 4: contributor to us personally, and this is a that's a

538
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: busters act, great question for them when you get them,

539
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 4: susan uh, But I think his best contributor personally is

540
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: going to be as a starter. But if if for

541
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Speaker 4: some reason, you know, I think last year, you know,

542
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: he started out in the bullpen, So if we had

543
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 4: to do that, we know he can do it, and

544
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: we know he can do it at a high level.

545
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Speaker 4: So that's definitely probably not Plan A for Hayden Bursoon

546
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: or even Plan B, but you know that that is

547
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Speaker 4: an option to make sure he impacts us winning or

548
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: on the field this year.

549
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Speaker 3: I have a sorry, I have a couple of real

550
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: quick ones before we let you go, and I know

551
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: you've got to get get down to the field. But

552
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Speaker 3: I noticed that Baseball America the other day gave Carlos

553
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: good years some love, is a nice sleeper pick. What

554
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: should we know about him? Is he a guy who's

555
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: high on your guys radar? And again, I'm asking a

556
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: lot about outfielders. But when when is he? Is he

557
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: somebody that we might see at some point if Carlos.

558
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 4: Carlos has had a lot of injuries, a lot of

559
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 4: back issues. That's what ended the year last year. But Carlos,

560
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 4: when he's on the field, he's kind of that that

561
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: table setter that the fans fall in love with at

562
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: any level he's ever played at. He hits line, drives

563
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 4: all fields, he's always on base, he can run a

564
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: little bit. Uh, he's a very competent, nice defensive player. Yeah,

565
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: he's kind of a sleeper.

566
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Speaker 1: You know.

567
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: What's what's always fun being in the front office is

568
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 4: listening through trade talks and you can see how other

569
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: teams value to players. And you know, especially when Carlos

570
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 4: was was more healthy, it felt like every team thought like, oh, hey,

571
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: this guy's not high on their list, Let's see if

572
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 4: we can steal him. But you know, he's one of

573
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: those type of players. Uh, And we have a we

574
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: have a bunch of those players actually you know, and

575
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Speaker 4: you know, I think through the lot of the prospect ranking,

576
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: it's players like Carlos or you know, Jacob Resnahan or

577
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: some of these guys that really stand out whenever teams

578
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: start asking for players from us, that you realize that

579
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: the publications don't value our players near as high as

580
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 4: other teams do. And that's not just those players. I

581
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: shouldn't name those, but like you know, whoever it is,

582
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: it's Johnny Lovell or Trevor Cohen, or Bo Davidson or

583
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: Dakota Jordan. You know, we definitely we have a lot

584
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 4: of prospects who are valued. And Baseball America's had a

585
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: lot of our games in the Complex League, so they're

586
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: familiar with a lot of our players. They do a

587
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 4: phenomenal job at that publication.

588
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: Kyle, thanks for coming on, man, go get to work.

589
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you how to do your job.

590
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: But I think that Ron Washington and Bryce Elderd should

591
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: be roommates and just put them together, maybe even just

592
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, just get to know each other, hang out.

593
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Speaker 1: With each other.

594
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: At the end of my career, I had washed in Oakland, Kyle,

595
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: best infield coach, I mean, playing second base I've been

596
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: in professional baseball for fourteen years and he's teaching me things.

597
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: At the end of my career, I'm like, where have

598
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: you been, bro? My whole life?

599
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: So I know those guys are going to click and

600
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: just get them together. Roomies, wash and Eldrid's roomies.

601
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Speaker 3: I have one quick one before you go. He's got

602
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: you know, I always have a lot of Sorry, Sorry, Kyle.

603
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: How's everybody doing in Venezuela. You guys have an extensive

604
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: operations there. We talked a little bit early on when

605
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: there was so much uncertainty there, but I just wanted

606
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 3: to double check everyone's doing well.

607
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're doing great. You know. I talked to our

608
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: lipso Noava, who's been around. He's in big league camp.

609
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: He was probably seeing around a lot. Susan, one of

610
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: our coaches, hugely valued for a long time. I talked

611
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: to him every single day. He's managing the Zulia club

612
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, and we've checked in our people and

613
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 4: they're all doing great. I think the common theme is

614
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: everyone says everything's normal and calm, but there's always that

615
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: kind of like is something going to happen? So other

616
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: than the nervousness, about what the future holds. Everything's going

617
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: great down there, and uh, you know, every day I

618
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: I you know, I call them and they get a

619
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: little a little more optimistic about how things are going.

620
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: And and I think there's a sense of excitement too

621
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Speaker 4: of what the future of Venezuela looks like, because because

622
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: our folks from Venezuela have been beat up pretty good

623
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: for for a long time. And and I think a

624
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: lot of people in the United States are excited that

625
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: they may be able to go back and see their families.

626
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: And then the Venezuelan's there are really excited about, you know,

627
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 4: seeing their their great country. Uh, you know, be strong.

628
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: Uh again, Well, FP apparently has got other things to do.

629
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: Service, he warned, room service. That's what happened.

630
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: You did.

631
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll talk about where FP is it.

632
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming, Yeah, thank you so much.

633
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: We really appreciate it.

634
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: And we are going to go to a little bit

635
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: of business. I think FP too.

636
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: Merchandise to sell. Yeah, it merch you can grab it

637
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: anywhere you want. We got hoodies, we got blue shirts

638
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: with v Nex, we got boats in the cove. We

639
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: got a black shirt with a logo. We got a

640
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: beige chat with a logo. We got the bay bridge

641
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: to the left. We've got a coffee cup, which I

642
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: need right now because I'm tired. We got a backpack

643
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: for you nerds out there that read we got the

644
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: hoodie with a hoodie and then the Duffel bag if

645
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: you're trying to smuggle stuff into the ballpark, and then

646
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: the beanie because it's freezing. Susan wants the notepad because she's.

647
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: A reporter, and I want the backpack too because I'm

648
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: also a nerd. So you get the beanie, you get

649
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: the coffee cup.

650
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 4: I'm a nerd too.

651
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: I got to get my hangers. They brought hangers, so

652
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 2: that was I'm in Scottsdale. I'll be doing the shows

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Speaker 2: here for the next week or so for Fantasy Camp,

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Speaker 2: so I'm going to do some shows from the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do in the clubhouse, in the Major

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Speaker 2: League clubhouse for spring training. So Susan, thanks for coming

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Speaker 2: on today. Sorry my voice was shot, but that was coy.

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Speaker 3: Explain to everybody why you went there a little bit

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Speaker 3: early because.

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Speaker 1: Oh, well, my Hurricanes are going to Natty. It was great.

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Speaker 2: I saw a bunch of college teammates and friends and

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Speaker 2: it was like a reunion yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We tailgated. We had so much fun and.

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Speaker 2: Then the game was one of the best college games

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Speaker 2: I've ever been to in my life. It was back

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Speaker 2: and forth. The fourth quarter was insane. There was there

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Speaker 2: was Hurricane fans crying. After we won the game, we

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Speaker 2: were all hugging and screaming, and yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was outstanding. They got a good football team. They

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Speaker 1: got a chance as as.

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Speaker 2: They could play with all the mistakes yesterday and they

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Speaker 2: still won.

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Speaker 1: So that was their hiccup game.

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Speaker 2: I got them winning big in the Natty, whether it's

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Speaker 2: Oregon or Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's exciting. Well, well all right, what a

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Speaker 3: way to finish things off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool. So thanks Susan for coming on

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Speaker 1: and like I say.

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Speaker 2: On the way out every single time, and I'll try

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Speaker 2: to say it with my scratchy voice, swing hard in

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Speaker 2: case you hit it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for watching

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