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Speaker 2: Please Bet responsibly. Day sixty one. We're in the second

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Speaker 2: half of the one hundred and twenty they plan. Also

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Speaker 2: Happy NHL Trade deadline Day to those who celebrate. I imagine

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Speaker 2: that's Young Gabril.

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Speaker 3: Celebrating a Penguin's loss last night five to one in person.

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Speaker 2: You know what hurts me, though, Gibbet, is that he

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Speaker 2: sent us a picture. He was all fired up about it,

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Speaker 2: he was excited, and then you just completely trashed him.

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Speaker 2: Trashed the Penguins, broke their spirit and this is the

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Speaker 2: result as they get smushed.

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Speaker 3: They had one bad game. Good news. They play for

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Speaker 3: six months. They have like forty games? How many games

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Speaker 3: left they have?

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Speaker 2: When I'm over here, I don't have eyes on young Gabril.

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Speaker 3: He's over here, He's just hanging out there.

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Speaker 2: He is the Colins worst slide. That was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: After I did go on a little tirade, and then

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Speaker 3: I was like, I do feel bad about that.

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Speaker 2: I know I dropped.

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Speaker 3: I dropped a lot of descriptions. Yeah, you did it.

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Speaker 3: I was I was entertaining myself. And then I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: he's probably not entertained by this. He's trying to watch

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Speaker 3: a game. Did you get the shirt?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, why young Gabril?

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Speaker 2: Who was the guy on the jumbo tron that you

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Speaker 2: were trying to show us?

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Speaker 3: Or No, that was boy?

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Speaker 2: It was just a guy. Yeah, no, I know bo

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Speaker 2: zoomed in on him. He recognized that he was not

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Speaker 2: likely to be a mallwalker from his panache, which was apparent.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I feel like he could have.

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Speaker 2: Been by the way. I don't know what to make

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Speaker 2: of this situation out like it was what there's so

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Speaker 2: much defensive like doctor j misrepresented the mallwalking story, there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt, but also he was right directionally, like at

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Speaker 2: the core the essence of it. Because we had people

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Speaker 2: Vincenzo and Noah, well not Noah he was more of

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Speaker 2: a silent partner. But Vincenzo still totally defending it, in fact,

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Speaker 2: making declarative statements that he's going to go there and

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Speaker 2: it's gonna work.

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Speaker 3: He's quite the eligible bachelor. He just wants to hang

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Speaker 3: out with the people.

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Speaker 2: Good for him, Good for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't know what to make of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, doctor J led us astray a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit, Actor J did, but we we love that. We

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Speaker 2: love doctor J.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on today's program, we're going to hear from

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Speaker 2: Andrew Ceciliano three point fifteen. It's going to join Live,

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Speaker 2: Gonna join Live lunchtime there. We're gonna find out what

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Speaker 2: he's doing snacking on a wrap. We're gonna hear from

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Speaker 2: Brown's new Brown Special Teams coordinator Brian storer Uh. We'll

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Speaker 2: do a little mail bag. Yeah, we got a bunch

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Speaker 2: of questions from Cynthia Friedland. We got a bunch of questions.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned you want to take calls. Hey, keV, I

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Speaker 3: didn't tell you that.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic I got it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, keV.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm not afraid on a Friday. In our

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Speaker 2: early March before the league year kicks off. When's the

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Speaker 2: league year kickoff? The eleventh?

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Next, what is that next?

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Speaker 3: It's Wednesday, Forday, right in the middle of this fine program.

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Speaker 2: Exciting.

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Speaker 3: I can hear it in your voice.

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Speaker 2: Exciting. It is exciting. We've got some news from around

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Speaker 2: the NFL, but also Cleveland Brown's news. The first is

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Speaker 2: as well. The Browns are processing a salary conversion. This

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Speaker 2: full amount, they'll convert forty four point seven million of

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Speaker 2: Cleveland is updated the contract allowing a post six to

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Speaker 2: one designation next March. If they did that, there would

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Speaker 2: twenty eight. Now there are two ways to look at this.

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Speaker 2: One is obviously you had to do it, get under,

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Speaker 2: get under salary cap, get compliance. Now you've got some

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Speaker 2: room to spend and buttress this roster. The other is,

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Speaker 2: you know that garant Deshaun Watson is on the right

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Speaker 2: this year, it is possible that the Browns then after

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Speaker 2: this season could make a change in terms of his

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Speaker 2: think that some people are interpreting as saying if you

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Speaker 2: plays really well, you can just keep him on his contract,

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Speaker 2: he would be under contract. Now, you also have an

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Speaker 2: the Browns go that route. But I definitely do not

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Speaker 2: think that this means Deshaun Watson is not in the

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Speaker 2: quarterback competition. I believe Deshaun Watson is in the quarterback

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Speaker 2: competition for the Cleveland Browns. So that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: The restructuring again, it's kicking money down the line. And

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Speaker 2: what that does is it takes his massive twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: It allows the money to go forward when the salary

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Speaker 2: it becomes a smaller percentage of your salary cap. That's

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Speaker 2: the thought process, and it allows them to be compliant

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Speaker 2: this year. So that's kind of where they are with that.

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Speaker 2: So that's a big news from the Browns. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff going around the league. Daniel Hunter, who

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Speaker 3: Football Arier Christmas. Good to be.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be Daniel Hunter. Daniel Hunter one of

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Speaker 2: the better pass rushers in the NFL. For the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 2: they have Daniel Hunter. They have Will and or Send.

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Speaker 2: Hunter used to be on the other side of would

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Speaker 2: Zidias Smith at one point in his career. He's coming

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Speaker 2: But since twenty eighteen, he's gone fourteen and a half sacks,

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Speaker 2: He has been a two times second team All Pro.

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Speaker 2: This year not a Pro Bowler, which is crazy at

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Speaker 2: And he has had seven double digit sack seasons in

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Speaker 2: So he gets a one year contract, fully guaranteed worth

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Speaker 2: forty million. That's impressive. That is good for him. Congrats,

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Speaker 3: That's a nice little generational payday for one year's work.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and when you look at you know, in terms

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Speaker 2: that is a pretty darn good payday for him. That's

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Speaker 2: going to put him Danil Hunter one year forty is

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Speaker 2: going to put him fourth behind Micah Parsons, Aiden Hutchinson,

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Speaker 2: And obviously his guys get paid after the fact. They

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Speaker 2: freeing up eight million in cap space. I'll carry an

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Speaker 2: Obviously resurrected it when he went to Seattle. Geno Smith

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Speaker 2: two time pro bowler. If you look at kind of

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Speaker 2: fifty touchdowns, only twenty picks. Completes a very high percentage

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Speaker 2: of his passes. It's been basically the last you know,

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Speaker 2: sixty seven percent. He's got to work on those interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Part of that, though, I think, is what was going

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Speaker 2: on in Vegas this season. But he's a guy that

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of people think that he has

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to land somewhere better than people think Minnesota, Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: It's been a hell of a career turnaround for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you did look at his career from starton dow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't really start playing. He was a full

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Speaker 2: last year was twenty fourteen, then not again until twenty

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Speaker 2: has his best season there with Seattle and goes back

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Speaker 3: As the g man said, he's just got to stop

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Speaker 3: running into Clint Kubiak.

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Speaker 2: He does twenty eight and twenty four as a starter

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Speaker 2: there in Seattle in those years, sixty nine percent completion,

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Speaker 2: seventy six touchdowns, thirty six picks, better than a two

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Speaker 2: last year obviously not as good there in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: But Gino Smith is a guy that has an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to go somewhere, and I've seen people even throw his

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Speaker 2: That's that's the question. I don't know about that, But

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Speaker 5: missed all of last season, the way I understand it

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00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 5: is that there is a possibility for a cap credit there. What,

436
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 5: how big? When does it hit? I'm not certain. I

437
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 5: do not believe it is like a full credit for

438
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 5: last year's year missed. I don't think that's the case.

439
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 5: It's not as if.

440
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: Forty sixth the percentage of it, right, Yeah.

441
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 5: Forty six million is magically going to appear as a credit.

442
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 5: That's not what's gonna happen. But I do believe there

443
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 5: is a credit.

444
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see you and then we'll keep you

445
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: posted if we ever, whenever that becomes, if anybody learns

446
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: of that, we certainly will let you know. Other quarterback

447
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: news around the league raiders no surprise releasing Geno Smith.

448
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: I will say I thought at the combine, the way

449
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: that a lot of people talked about Geno Smith and

450
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: the way that he's regarded around the league, being so

451
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: much ahead of the other free agent quarterbacks surprised me.

452
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: Does it surprise you? And where do you think Geno

453
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: Smith could end up?

454
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 5: Gino Smith did not play well last year, However, there

455
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 5: are other things going on. We saw the Raiders in person.

456
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 5: They're a bad team. Chip Kelly was fired shortly after

457
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 5: we saw them in Vegas. It was a mess. It

458
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 5: was an utter mess. So both can be true. He

459
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 5: played poorly and he did have a good support system

460
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 5: around him, and what you heard is accurate. People around

461
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 5: the league still think Gino can play a little bit.

462
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 5: And I want to go back to the Rogers thing.

463
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 5: We're joking about young Gabriel there. I do have a

464
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,719
Speaker 5: little bit of a different opinion on Rogers' appearance on

465
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 5: Pat McAfee a couple of days ago. I think there

466
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 5: is some reading between the Lions here, and I'm not

467
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 5: trying to play Aaron Rodgers psychologist, but consider the timing.

468
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 5: It was right after Kyler Murray was cut free or

469
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 5: we found the news, we heard the news that it

470
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: is going to happen right after the Daniel Jones transition tag,

471
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: which means he can go shop around. Gino Smith is

472
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 5: now part of this equation as well, which I have

473
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 5: no doubt that Aaron foresaw. And if you listen to

474
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 5: what Rogers said, he praised Pittsburgh, he praised McCarthy. He

475
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 5: said that any issues they had in the past, they

476
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 5: they mended those fences. When McCarthy came in twenty twenty

477
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: two with the Cowboys to Green Bay, he said all

478
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 5: the nice things. He also said, there's no deadline, and

479
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 5: there can't be a deadline because I don't have an offer,

480
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 5: and then he prays Will Howard up and down. To me,

481
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: this was him saying, hey, guys, make me an offer.

482
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 5: Not I haven't decided if I want to play football yet.

483
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 5: It's hey, guys, make me an offer. And Omar Khan

484
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 5: last week at the combine, I was standing right there,

485
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 5: said hey, we've talked to Aaron and the door is

486
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 5: certainly open for him to come back. Okay to me,

487
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 5: this was Aaron saying, well, if you want me to

488
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 5: come back, go ahead, ask me. Because he's reading the

489
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 5: room and understands that if it's not the Steelers he

490
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 5: may not have another option. There are going to be

491
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 5: veteran options for other teams, including the Steelers, and the

492
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 5: most interesting thing, well, one of the most interesting things

493
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 5: to watch at noon on Monday is do you hear

494
00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 5: the Steelers connected to Kyler or Gino yep? And their

495
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 5: easy way to explain it is, Hey, we haven't heard

496
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: from Aaron. We've got to do We've got to cover

497
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: our butts. But maybe it's we are going to very

498
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 5: calmly walk away from Aaron and just say, well, he

499
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 5: didn't tell us, so we're gonna have to go find

500
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 5: someone else. Does that make sense?

501
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: It makes a ton of sense, and I think that

502
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: that's gonna be The quarterbacks, obviously, are what make this

503
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: league go round, and I think that's what Those are

504
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: very interesting dominoes. Where does Malik Willis end up? Where

505
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: does Gino Smith end up? Where does Kyler Murray end up?

506
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: Where does Tua end up? Where's Kirk Cousins end up?

507
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: Does anybody trade for mac Jones? And where does Aaron

508
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: Rodgers I guess end up if we're I've always assumed

509
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: he's going to be in Pittsburgh, but maybe that won't

510
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: be the case.

511
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 5: Maybe they don't want them.

512
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: Do you think? Do you think or how do you think?

513
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: Or look at this. Do you have any kind of

514
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: connections you're making already on some of these quarterbacks, any

515
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: natural spots or you know things that you've heardy were,

516
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: We know that you were. People are saying we had

517
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: it in here? What some are saying, what do we

518
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: have on here? Summer saying? Some people are calling you

519
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: mister Olympics. I'm calling you mister Combine because you are

520
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: the most popular guy in Indianapolis. Bar none. So was

521
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: there any did he get any scuttle butt on these things?

522
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 5: Bar none?

523
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: Like William Floyd, William Floyd, former forty nine er, that's right,

524
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: best fullback in the draft, bar none.

525
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 5: I think Kyler is the most interesting piece here, and

526
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 5: there's a lot of revisionist history. Kyler is a heck

527
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 5: of an athlete and a heck of a football player.

528
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 5: He hasn't played great football recently. There's the curious case

529
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 5: of his foot injury last year and shutting him down

530
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 5: when they couldn't get a deal done at the deadline.

531
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 5: So there's a lot going on there. I think the

532
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 5: question teams have to answer is are we going to

533
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: get a rejuvenated I have something to prove Kyler Murray

534
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: and if they believe they're going to get that guy

535
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 5: as opposed to the guy who at the end maybe

536
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: his last couple of years in Arizona. I think all

537
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 5: sides were just kind of ready for it to be over.

538
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 5: Which Kyler are they going to get? And if they

539
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 5: get a I'm out to prove the world wrong former

540
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 5: number one overall pick, then that's something to get excited about. Yeah,

541
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: and where does he go? Does he decide? Because remember

542
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: he went to Oklahoma and backed up Baker and waited. Ye,

543
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: so he has that in his bag, Like could he

544
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: go somewhere where he's not the guy like Matt Jones?

545
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 5: Or remember Sam Darnold went and went to San Francisco

546
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 5: And I'm just gonna take a gap year rehab, rehab

547
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: my reputation and then go kill it next year. I

548
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: don't think that's like the Rams or anything like that,

549
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: But Cliff Kingsbury is there. I'm just spitballing ideas. I

550
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: think the easiest one for him. Oh, I'm not saying

551
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 5: he's going to the Rams, but just like that kind

552
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 5: of if he if he does not that, but sure,

553
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: I think the Vikings is the most obvious one people

554
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 5: want to put Malik Willis in Miami or Kyler in Miami.

555
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 5: Why would either go to a team that is in

556
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 5: total tear down mode. I mean they're not just rebuilding,

557
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: they are in teardown mode. So I don't I don't

558
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 5: get why people are linking quarterbacks to Miami. I think

559
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 5: Kyler in Atlanta with Kevin and Tommy Reese. I agree,

560
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 5: that's interesting. He's the first Domino.

561
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: He is and I think the biggest, and I think

562
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: Malik Willis. I like Arizona for Malik Willis, especially if

563
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: they say, you know, all right, we're gonna do you

564
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: believe Marvin Harrison's available?

565
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's available, but I would try.

566
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: To get him same. Yeah.

567
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 5: Sure, I mean I've been saying that one for a while.

568
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 5: I was all on team that the Browns should go

569
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 5: get DJ Moore as well. But I figured all it

570
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 5: would take is a five. I mean, with the Bills

571
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 5: gave up a two, I would know, no thanks.

572
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: So I said this this this morning. I was one

573
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: with with Mo Pedman, and I said, I think that

574
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: that has throttled the wide receiver trading as Yeah, I mean,

575
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: if if we're if we're to believe and there are

576
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: multiple people reporting it that the asking price now for

577
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 2: aj Brown is a one and a two and a player.

578
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: That's absurd, which to me is a They're saying, hey,

579
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: Dj more for a two, then it's got to be

580
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: more than that. Just like to me, I think it

581
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: almost makes it. I was sitting here in a dream

582
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: world where maybe thirty nine would get Marvin Harrison. I

583
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: don't think there's any way they would trade him for

584
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: thirty nine at this point with the if DJ Moore

585
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: got a two and they're paying a ton of money

586
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: for him.

587
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Marvin's on a rookie contract, right, so huge difference.

588
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: I really thought that DJ Moore could have been had

589
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 5: for like the deal that the Browns gave the Cowboys, yeah,

590
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 5: which in retrospect was robbery, or the Jerry Judy deal,

591
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: which is even less. I thought you could get DJ

592
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: Moore for that. If you want to go back, look

593
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: at the Bears trade. So the Bears trade three years ago,

594
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 5: this week this month for the Panthers, right, the number

595
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: one overall pick. So Carolina got Brice Young. Yep, they

596
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 5: got their guy. Whether he is the guy remains to

597
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 5: be seen, but it's not a total disaster, I know,

598
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: rigging endorsement with that pick or with that trade. The

599
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 5: Bears have now turned it into Caleb Williams because they

600
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: had the number one pick the next year, which was

601
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: from the Panthers, Caleb Williams, Darnell Wright, Tyreek Stevenson, Tory Taylor,

602
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 5: Luther Burden, and after three years and three thousand yards

603
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 5: and twenty four touchdowns from DJ Moore, they flip him

604
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 5: for a.

605
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: Two and a second and twenty six. Yeah, it's an incredible, like,

606
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable.

607
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 5: They got three years and three thousand yards. Now, there

608
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: weren't three one thousand yard seasons, but you add them

609
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 5: all up. Three years, three thousand yards, include the playoffs,

610
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: twenty four touchdowns, and then they get a two out

611
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 5: of it, and they take forty plus if you include

612
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 5: the extra money that allegedly the Bills have now kicked in.

613
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 5: They got like fifty five million off their books.

614
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah it's incredible, Yeah, it's incredible. And now they're loaded.

615
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: They got forty four million under the cap. They're loaded up, Yeah,

616
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: loaded up. Yeah. Fact. I think that that. I think

617
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: it just makes it really hard to trade for a

618
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Now, I think that that trade has kind

619
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: of throttled that market.

620
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 5: Well, what's Brian Thomas going to cost you? Let's throw

621
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: that one out there.

622
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: Why are they going to get rid of Brian Thomas?

623
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: What don't we know about Brian Thomas?

624
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 5: A lot a lot of the stuff that they have.

625
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: It's the Rams offense, right, So a lot of the

626
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: stuff that they have asked him to do. He just

627
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 5: doesn't fit. He doesn't fit. I mean, I worked.

628
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: I get that on some level. But on the other level,

629
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: you had a guy who was probably the best most

630
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: productive rookie in his class two years ago and was awesome,

631
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: and I like the monk and way that give me

632
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: guys with talent and I'm going to kind of get

633
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: it going with them. I mean, he had eighty seven

634
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: to twelve, eighty two and ten as a rookie.

635
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: I know, we saw him down there in Jacksonville. We

636
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: talked about him all week and right out of the

637
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: gate in the first half, he's hitting a deep shot.

638
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 5: He didn't score, I don't think, but he didn't he

639
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 5: get like a fifty yard bomb.

640
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, he did.

641
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 5: The guy can play. I would take a flyer on him.

642
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: He's a number one hundred, not a number one overall. Rather,

643
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: he's a first round pick, remember not from this administration.

644
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 5: And also remember that their offense took off the Jaguars

645
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 5: last year when they traded for Jacobe Meyers, who does

646
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: all the stuff that Brian Thomas is not not buy

647
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: not that player.

648
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: Would I would call that right now? Yeah, right now, Yes,

649
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: that's interesting. That's to me that if he a guy

650
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Speaker 2: who can if you can have eighty seven, twelve, eighty

651
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Speaker 2: two and ten average fourteen point seven yard schedule, which

652
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Speaker 2: he did this year, and I know he had some

653
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Speaker 2: problems with the drops this year early on, I agree

654
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Speaker 2: with that. But to me, you find a way to

655
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Speaker 2: make that guy fit in your offense. I mean as

656
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Speaker 2: a first round pick. I also don't think that if

657
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Speaker 2: I was a Jacks, I would never trade with us again.

658
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: If Andy Bray caught up saying no thank you. And

659
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: we've abused them twice in the last calendar year.

660
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Speaker 5: What was the other one?

661
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Speaker 2: Which one? Or which is the one that you're referring to?

662
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Speaker 5: There's the day the draft trade? Yeah, it was the

663
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Speaker 5: other one. Tyson Campbell, Oh, Tyson Camblell, Yeah, I forgot

664
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Speaker 5: about that.

665
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Speaker 2: How can I forget about that.

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Speaker 5: That was a great one. Yeah, that's yeah, that's worked

667
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Speaker 5: out pretty well well but for us. But I wouldn't

668
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Speaker 5: look at that as abuse. I would say it turned

669
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Speaker 5: out really well for the Browns and the Jaguars simply

670
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Speaker 5: didn't think he was a scheme fit and they wanted

671
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Speaker 5: him off their books. It was again signed by a

672
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Speaker 5: different administration. Tyson Campbe's a really good player. I'm glad,

673
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Speaker 5: no doubt the Browns have him. He played and mis

674
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: fits in our system on PC, they were playing zone.

675
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 5: He didn't fit in their system. Them and someone else

676
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: signed him and they wanted to free up the contract,

677
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: so they decided to move on. Whether or not Greg

678
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Speaker 5: signs back there, I have no clue.

679
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all and it worked out well for.

680
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Speaker 5: The Browns, there's no debating that.

681
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Speaker 2: For sure. It's been it's been excellent. But I would

682
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if they want to move on, he's

683
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: not a scheme fit either. Sometimes a getting you just

684
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Speaker 2: want good football players. I think, like scheme is, Yeah,

685
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: it's important, but you have good football players, I think

686
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Speaker 2: you want to keep them. So anyway, just met anyway, Yeah,

687
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: all right, so we've got that we've got those things

688
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: that we've kind of settled down. By the way, the

689
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Speaker 2: Chargers signing Tyler Beatish, who I thought might have been

690
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Speaker 2: a target for us on the interior of the offensive

691
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Speaker 2: line three years, thirty million dollars. What do you think

692
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Speaker 2: about that?

693
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Speaker 5: They they have to rework the middle of their their

694
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Speaker 5: interior O line as well center retired right guard. They're

695
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Speaker 5: gonna cut Mackai Beckton. Is Zion Johnson a free agent?

696
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Speaker 5: I believe he is? Right? Am I wrong? I mean

697
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 5: that's the guy that I would look at for the Browns.

698
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Speaker 2: Is you're absolutely right about that? Yep, He's on the list.

699
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. I would take a gander at him.

700
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Speaker 5: My biggest thing, Okay, the Texans have released Joe Mixon.

701
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Speaker 5: I'm just reading stuff coming across my desk right here.

702
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: I expect them proba. Did Nick Chubb get a one

703
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 5: year contract or a two year contract?

704
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb? I think is either way he will be

705
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Speaker 2: a free agent.

706
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I agree. I was just thinking out loud

707
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Speaker 5: here with the mixing thing.

708
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Speaker 3: Where was I?

709
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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: The Browns I think are going to sign one free

711
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Speaker 5: agent offensive lineman.

712
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Speaker 3: Uh.

713
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Speaker 5: The Titus Howard thing gives him a lot of flexibility.

714
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think of that mobility?

715
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Speaker 5: I think for the cost of a fifth round pick,

716
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Speaker 5: I I I'm curious as to what the actual new

717
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Speaker 5: contract looks like. I would hesitate to immediately believe all

718
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 5: the numbers that are immediately reported. So I would love

719
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 5: to see what that real deal looks like either way.

720
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Speaker 5: For a fifth round pick for a guy that could

721
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Speaker 5: play right tackle or potentially right guard. He played left

722
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Speaker 5: guard as well, and obviously Joel's future is up in

723
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Speaker 5: the air. Maybe we find something out about that this weekend.

724
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: The timing indicates we should we need to, we need to.

725
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Speaker 5: I thought, Titus Howard, for what you gave up was

726
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 5: a very very savvy move.

727
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk for a second about the quarterbacks here,

728
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: because we talked a little bit about de Shaun the restructuring.

729
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Speaker 2: There was an article at The Athletic yesterday where they

730
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Speaker 2: predicted some of the quarterback rooms and they had ours

731
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Speaker 2: adding Justin fields and I've said some things take justin

732
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Speaker 2: fields out of it as evaluating him. Although I could

733
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Speaker 2: see how, you know, with some of the stuff that

734
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: Mounkin and Travis Switzer would have in from Lamar and

735
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: their run game in Baltimore. Why he would make some sense.

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Speaker 2: But I was of the opinion that if you are

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Speaker 2: going to bring in somebody like Justin Fields, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how beneficial a three person quarterback competition is,

739
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Speaker 2: and I don't know how you would clearly define the

740
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Speaker 2: roles of those three. And then it almost feels like

741
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Speaker 2: it'd be too many cooks in the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: You know.

743
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: I agree with Deshaun and Chadour, And we know Deshaun,

744
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: because of his contract, he can't go anywhere. I liked Shador.

745
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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think that he needs to go, and

746
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Speaker 2: I don't want to see him go anywhere, So I

747
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Speaker 2: don't understand how that would work bringing in another veteran here.

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Speaker 5: I agree, And I also agree that if they do

749
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Speaker 5: choose to do that, which you never know, I mean,

750
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Speaker 5: who knows what's going to happen to the next ninety

751
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Speaker 5: six hours. But if they do choose to do that,

752
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 5: then you have to move somebody else. Three doesn't work.

753
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 5: Three doesn't work for anybody. So yeah, I would agree

754
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Speaker 5: with you. Somebody's probably got to move on if you

755
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Speaker 5: go get another veteran quarterbacks. Not forget about Dylan. He's

756
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 5: still very much in the room. He did start half

757
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Speaker 5: the season a year ago. So you have three in

758
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Speaker 5: the building right now. Is that tenable?

759
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: Not sure?

760
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 5: I don't know, but that's what you have. It's also

761
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 5: good to have a surplus, right yep.

762
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Speaker 2: And I can just see them say, look, Dylan, you're

763
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Speaker 2: gonna be of those three. You're going to be third string.

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Speaker 2: They're going to battle it out. He would understand his

765
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Speaker 2: role and I think would always be ready and able

766
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Speaker 2: to go in whenever you needed him, because he's just

767
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Speaker 2: that kind of a professional.

768
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Speaker 5: Look, as much as people like to look back and

769
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Speaker 5: question the training camp quarterback competition, you're a go in

770
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Speaker 5: the deals that were subsequently made at the end of

771
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Speaker 5: the preseason and during the regular season. It is nice

772
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Speaker 5: to have the three fives right now because one of

773
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Speaker 5: those fives turned into Titus Howard, and that gives you

774
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Speaker 5: flexibility to rebuild the offensive line. And you still have

775
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Speaker 5: two fifth run picks. Those three fifth run picks were

776
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Speaker 5: all in the same neighborhood, about ten twelve picks away

777
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Speaker 5: from each other. The one you give up is the

778
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Speaker 5: Raiders Picket's the Candy Pickett trade. So if you I

779
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: told you last year, will trade case pick into the Raiders.

780
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Speaker 5: You get a starting offensive lineman next year who's a

781
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: former first round pick. Kenny, although I wish him well,

782
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Speaker 5: is not going to be a factor at all for

783
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Speaker 5: the Raiders last season. I think people would have taken

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Speaker 5: that deal.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. You certainly would have. There's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: You would have been It would have made a lot

787
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Speaker 2: of sense. I know your reference in Joe Mixed a

788
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: few minutes ago, Schefter saying they released him. I looked

789
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: up Nick Chubb was signed to a one year deal. Obviously,

790
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: they made the trade for David Montgomery, who will be

791
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Speaker 2: kind of the big compliment to Woody Mark Burnhuton.

792
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Speaker 5: A two like. I'm a big David Montgomery fan. He

793
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: immediately gives them a good player this year. He's entering

794
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 5: his eighth year. He's not a young man. No, he's

795
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 5: entering his eighth season. And you give up You gave

796
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Speaker 5: up a four, right, you gave a yes. Yeah, it's

797
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Speaker 5: it's an interesting deal.

798
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Speaker 2: He's going to be the hammer though they were, they

799
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Speaker 2: were so frustrated with their goal line performance, and he is.

800
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Speaker 2: He is still one of the better short yarded running

801
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: backs the National Football League, which is I think why

802
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: they make that move. I think if from you never

803
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: want to your fantasy had on. We'll see obviously who

804
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Speaker 2: the Lions bring into that running back room. I'm sure

805
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Speaker 2: they're gonna try to find their version of Kyle m

806
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Speaker 2: Nungai or David Montgomery in the draft. At some point.

807
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Speaker 5: That's emir you generally win, of.

808
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Speaker 2: Course, but Jamiir Gibbs is Jamier Gibbs is now the

809
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Speaker 2: man there.

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Speaker 5: Of course. Oh, I get it from the Lion's perspective,

811
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Speaker 5: one hundred percent. Yeah, I'm saying for the Texans perspective,

812
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Speaker 5: it was teams are paying a lot, like a four

813
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Speaker 5: for a twenty for an eighth year running back, a

814
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Speaker 5: two for a wide receiver that does well. He's going

815
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Speaker 5: to turn twenty nine before this. Actually I think he

816
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Speaker 5: turns twenty nine into a couple of weeks.

817
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Speaker 2: Oh way, they gave a four a center Juice Scrugs

818
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Speaker 2: and a seventh for Montgomery.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if they decide, hey, Juice Scruggs isn't our guys,

820
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Speaker 5: so be it move on, that's cool totally. Yeah, but

821
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Speaker 5: he was a Day two pick of memory serves.

822
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Speaker 2: Man, how about it? So that's good there. What did

823
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Speaker 2: you think of speaking of I mentioned Travis Switz or

824
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: all of our coordinators spoke with the media. We'll storry,

825
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: we'll focus on offense defense. But what do you think

826
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: of Travis Sweitzer and what he's going to bring to

827
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Speaker 2: Todd Monkins staff. I like Travis.

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Speaker 5: I got to interview him last week as well in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 5: That is up on BPA, the best podcast.

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Speaker 2: GIVEBA. It is now up.

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Speaker 5: Go to Cleveland Browns dot com or the Browns YouTube

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Speaker 5: page wherever you get your Browns content.

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Speaker 2: It is there. We're in the hallway in the hallway. Yeah, yeah,

834
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Speaker 2: we had.

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Speaker 5: To step out into the hallway for privacy, which makes

836
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 5: no sense. But I like Travis. I like the fact

837
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Speaker 5: that he's a former offensive lineman. Todd Monkins call him

838
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 5: plays and we know it's quote unquote his offense and

839
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 5: Sweitzer was the run game coordinator, but I like the

840
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 5: fact that he brings a different perspective. There aren't many

841
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 5: offensive line coordinators in the NFL. There's Andy Stanovich up

842
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 5: in Green Bay, obviously, Mike Matt Lafor's calling plays, Clayton

843
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: Adams in Dallas, there Brian Schottenheimer is calling plays. Andy Reid,

844
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 5: if you want to go back to his BYU days,

845
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 5: is a former offensive lineman, though he didn't play much.

846
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Speaker 5: But there aren't many old linemen as coordinators in this league,

847
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 5: so I think it's different. I think when you put

848
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Speaker 5: it together with Monkin, who is a college quarterback, I

849
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 5: think it's a good pairing. And personally I got along

850
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 5: with Travis great. I think Northeast Ohio. He's happy to

851
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 5: be back him with his family. Yeah, I like that one.

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00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: And Mike Grutenberg, he is everything that we had heard.

853
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: He's the energy guy. I think commanded the podium well

854
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 5: from everything if we've heard behind the scenes, the rest

855
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 5: of the defensive staff, which is staying, likes Mike Grutenberg

856
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: as well. So I am all for that and I'm

857
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 5: excited to see what it does with that defense. And

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00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 5: Byron store, look, you learned under rich Passaccia. Hopefully that

859
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 5: turns into a good result for the Browns. Obviously the

860
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: special teams have been an issue the last couple years.

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00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: Let's see what he could do.

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00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think, and it's amazing. And then Basacia kind

863
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: of surprises and retires the Packers, so they need to

864
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: go a completely different direction with their special teams coordinator.

865
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Speaker 2: It's funny after the Rutenberg presser, Bo Bishop was like, man,

866
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Monkin's got a type, right he and Ry he's ky

867
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: energy football guys. And it's an interesting staff. And you

868
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: look at all first time coordinators, obviously Todd first time

869
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: head coach, but you've got a lot of senior Don

870
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: Caper's in there. You've got guys on our defense who

871
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: have been here for a very very long time. You've

872
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: got capable guys obviously on the offensive side as well.

873
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: It's an interesting staff and the biggest staff we've had

874
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: in quite some time. Twenty nine guys. One thing, I

875
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw this with Rutenberg. I don't

876
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: know if this made it onto the air or not,

877
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: but young Gabriel was down there. He did his whole

878
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 2: press conference, and he forgot to mention our good friend

879
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: Jeff Anderson's promotion, and he came back just to give

880
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Anderson his props, which I thought was very cool.

881
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did hear that from somebody. And I'm also,

882
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 5: by the way, happy for Jeff and the promotion. I'm

883
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 5: happy that he's back in the fold as well. He

884
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: got some good work into the East West Shrine game

885
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 5: coaching down there and Dallas on the field caught his

886
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 5: mug a couple of times on NFL networks covers of

887
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 5: that event. So glad he and the rest of the

888
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 5: defensive staff is back in the billigy. I also think

889
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 5: that Tom Caper's thing can't be overstated, that it's significance.

890
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 5: I was talking to back in Indianapolis of the combine,

891
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 5: a former head coach and a former coordinator, guy that

892
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 5: has worn't a lot of hats, and I asked him specifically,

893
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: when you became head coach, how important was it to

894
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 5: have because you're like a play caller and a head coach.

895
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 5: How important was it for you to have another head

896
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 5: coach on the staff, a guy who has done it before,

897
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 5: just to have a second set of eyes. And he said,

898
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 5: I couldn't have done it without another head coach on

899
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 5: the staff because I'm worried about calling plays and there's

900
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 5: so much stuff in the game mana that is new,

901
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 5: and talking about Todd munkin here as a first time

902
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 5: head coach at the NFL level, Obviously he's been a

903
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: college head coach, but there's so many other things where

904
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: it was great to have another guy there who keep

905
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 5: just keep a tab on things, clock management, timeouts, just

906
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 5: little things, little things, another set of eyes, someone who

907
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 5: has been in that chair. So we talk about how

908
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 5: important it's going to be for Mike Gruttenberg, but I

909
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: think it's going to be it's going to be good

910
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 5: for Todd Munkin as well.

911
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm excited. I think if the players are excited.

912
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: People I've talked you are excited about all of this,

913
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: and now it's kind of go time. One thing that

914
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: we're waiting to find out what it means, though, is

915
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: speaking of in our divisions. I mean that Todd Munkin

916
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: brought to I think his best seasons in the NFL.

917
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson tweeted out an hour ago Denzel Boom. What

918
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: do you make of that? Do you think that's I

919
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: think I think that means Linderbaum. I don't know.

920
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 5: I think it could mean something bigger than that. I

921
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: don't know for sure. Yeah, it's just Lamar doesn't tweet much.

922
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 5: I don't know that Lamar is going to tweet a

923
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 5: Denzel training day meme for Tyler Linderbaum coming back. Maybe

924
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, I could be wrong.

925
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

926
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: I think I think it could be something big.

927
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: I could tell. Everyone's texting have reckless speculation, can have

928
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: reckless speculation.

929
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 5: The NFL behind the scenes world is all texting about

930
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 5: what is Lamar tweeting about. Lamar doesn't tweet very often.

931
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 5: He knows a lot of a lot of Instagram stories

932
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: that you know, like his buddies in his backyard, or

933
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 5: he does a lot of reposting of Instagram stories of

934
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 5: people sending him photos of like their kids and Lamar

935
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 5: Jackson jerseys. He doesn't tweet a lot, so he clearly

936
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 5: thinks something's coming. We'll see.

937
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: Do we get any no reckless speculation from you? No?

938
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: But to what you know? I don't know, I don't know.

939
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 5: I don't know. Diana Ruscini had a tweet though this

940
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 5: morning about the Max Crosby sweep steaks. Maybe he's talking

941
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 5: about that.

942
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 2: The condor with the Ravens. That would be we don't

943
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: need that. There is enough of them. People go elsewhere,

944
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: other teams, other divisions, other conferences. What are you giving up?

945
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 5: So let's let's look at Russini's tweet this morning, Diana.

946
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: Diana tweeted, while you guys are looking at up the

947
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: g man as a question that I find fascinating.

948
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 6: Okay, so we're talking reckless speculation. I mean, what if

949
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 6: what if this boom is, you know, maybe Lamar's headed

950
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 6: to Vegas in exchange for the number one pick in

951
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 6: Max Crosby, would.

952
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: You do that? I mean, I I was.

953
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 5: Joking about that a couple of days ago. Wouldn't that

954
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 5: be an interesting you know, I don't think that's happening

955
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 5: in any way, shape or form. I don't what would

956
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: you do? Fascinating? I have said, I have said for

957
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: weeks now that the Raiders should sign Malik Willis and

958
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 5: trade the number one overall pick and get a whole

959
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 5: bunch of assets and just start plugging in number one picks. Right,

960
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: So let's say they could trade down, collect another number

961
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 5: one this year, another number one next year, and just

962
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 5: sign a veteran quarterback and collect all these picks. You

963
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: have so many holes now trading for Lamar Jackson. That

964
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 5: would be wild. I don't think that is going to

965
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 5: be the case. That is not I don't think that's

966
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 5: gonna happen, but it would be a crazy scenario. Here's

967
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 5: what Diana tweeted this morning. Max Crosby is drawing serious

968
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 5: interest from around the league that Dallas Cowboys are closely

969
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,479
Speaker 5: monitoring the situation and remain and remain very interested, while

970
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens are also a team to watch. Tweeted

971
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 5: that this morning. I don't think that Crosby to the

972
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 5: Cowboys makes a lot of sense now.

973
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: I think if they did that, it'd be like, why'd

974
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 2: you just get why did you just pay Michael Parsons.

975
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 5: I think the Cowboys signing a now soon to be

976
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 5: free agent Trey Hendrickson makes sense.

977
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: I think that. I mean Dodge all right. Do you

978
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: think what daneil Hunter did today sets the floor for

979
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: Crosby or Trey Hendrickson?

980
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 5: I think a big question for either of those two.

981
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 5: I don't think Trey Hendrickson is going to get forty million.

982
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna happen at all. I do

983
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: think that the question for anyone doing a Crosby trade

984
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 5: is does Max want to redo his deal? Because he

985
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 5: just did it like eighteen months ago, but it's been

986
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 5: passed like five times. So if he's happy playing for

987
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 5: what's he got left, maybe sixty five seventy million the

988
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 5: next two years, then that's cool. Does he need an extension?

989
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 5: Let's see Max this year is playing for I'm looking.

990
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: At cash cap number cash.

991
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's owed, he's only owed sixty over the

992
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 5: next two years cash, I say only he obviously got

993
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 5: upfront money. He's owed sixty over two. Danielle Hunter just

994
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 5: got forty for one. We know Miles is in that

995
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 5: neighborhood as well. So does he want thirty seven, thirty eight, forty?

996
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 5: What does he want?

997
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 3: Yep?

998
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: Interesting, I mean i'd think so, I would think that

999
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 2: he would.

1000
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: You would think he's or at least a you know,

1001
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 5: a Bologney one year sweetener. You add a year, you

1002
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 5: give him, you know, an extra twelve million guaranteed over

1003
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 5: these next two so you make it really thirty six.

1004
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's all again, there's a lot of

1005
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 5: excuse me, my, it's just cracked. There was gonna pur

1006
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: there's a lot of cap gymnastics that's gonna go on.

1007
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, listen, we're the we're the best at it.

1008
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: If you are the gold zone on cap gymnastics, you'd

1009
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: be you'd be handing out awards to the Cleveland Browns.

1010
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: What's on the agenda for the rest of your day. Uh,

1011
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: what do I got.

1012
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 5: That's a great question, Michael Workout.

1013
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: You know what, that's the best answer. That is the

1014
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: answer that everybody.

1015
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 5: These last two days have been like whatever I want

1016
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 5: to true off days in two months.

1017
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: So that's a fact. Folks. You're in a hotel in Stanford,

1018
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: Connecticut for how long.

1019
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 5: Like three and a half weeks. I'm not complaining it.

1020
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 7: And then went from there.

1021
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: It is a good problem, and I'm not saying you're

1022
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: you're you never complained about it. You love what you do.

1023
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 5: And February it's a first world problem, which.

1024
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: Was, by the way, a flight from New York to

1025
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: LA to sleep in your bed to then get on

1026
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: a flight and go to Indianapolis and beat us into

1027
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: indian plants.

1028
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 5: I don't want anyone have sympathy. I love my job.

1029
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: I love it. I said that. We said that. This

1030
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: full disclaimer. So gold jack gold jackets, orange Jackets don't

1031
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: complain about the joys of their lives.

1032
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 5: I have dinner plans tonight. Someone's got like some some

1033
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 5: group dinner that their friend is throwing going to something

1034
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 5: like that, and we'll.

1035
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: Say after that, what type of cuisine?

1036
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, friend who's friend who's like a chef

1037
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: and have it a whole bunch of over the house

1038
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 5: one of those.

1039
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, that makes me happy. I was

1040
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: talking about today. I think one of the hard things

1041
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: for people today is that I read this article and

1042
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: it's so true. The death of the house party. Yes,

1043
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: like we are people who went to bazillions of house parties.

1044
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 2: House parties are great. It's how people meet each other.

1045
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: I think it's it's a wonderful thing. The death of

1046
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: the house party. Revive, bring back the house party, make

1047
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: house parties great again. That's what I would. That's my

1048
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: message for twenty twenty six.

1049
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 5: Death of Death of the House Party sounds like a

1050
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 5: techno album.

1051
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: It sounds like it was a banger too.

1052
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 5: There's no doubt something Gabriel's blasting on Spotify right now.

1053
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: Young Gabriel, Young Gabriel and Doctor Jane need to throw

1054
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: some house parties. We need to get the house parties

1055
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: going and get all Oh you bring your friends, I'll

1056
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 2: bring my friends. Oh you bring it there. Oh yeah,

1057
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 2: let's go.

1058
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 5: And let's let's let's cut the boloney hair. If you

1059
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 5: were to show up at either of their house parties,

1060
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 5: you would be the creepy old dad.

1061
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Okay, totally, I'm not invited to their house parties. No way.

1062
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm gonna I'm gonna say now, I'm gonna disagree

1063
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: vehemently with that.

1064
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: I think we're going to be.

1065
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 3: The life of the party.

1066
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: We would be the life.

1067
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 5: You would be the party, but you'd be double their age.

1068
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: There'd be young people in the corner being like these.

1069
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: Guys, like like, I'm here to the party.

1070
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: Someone's gotta go.

1071
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 5: Who invited their dad?

1072
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: You?

1073
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 6: You also have to remember that all of my friends

1074
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 6: are like die hard Browns fans, and if they saw Nathan.

1075
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: Ze Gera at a house party, they'd be.

1076
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: Like, it's awesome, this is awesome.

1077
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 5: He's the guy from he's the guy from the grocery

1078
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: store TV commercial.

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Speaker 2: That's right, he's her perfect pumpkin. That's right, the perfect pumpkin.

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Speaker 2: You remember that time when you found the perfect pumpkin?

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00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: That was awesome. Awesome ALRP Chris Farley, Siciliano, this is great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. You are an absolute legend. The

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00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: Orange Jackets, i'm told, are in production. I'm very excited

1084
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: about it. I know you are too.

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Speaker 5: I texted my buddy Jeff Darlington, who just got honored

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Speaker 5: at the University of Florida, his alma mater, yesterday. Mike,

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Speaker 5: we need to get you now a blue jacket.

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Speaker 2: There you go, see, yes, and have very particket. It's

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00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: a very particular blue there, gator holding the microphone boom. Really,

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00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: we're people helping people. It's a beautiful thing to do

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Speaker 2: in March, right before the new league year. Andrew Siciliano,

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Speaker 2: enjoy your dinner party, Have a.

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Speaker 5: Blast, brother, have a great weekend friends.

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Speaker 2: All right, you too? All right, Ceciliano. What an hour

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Speaker 2: right there. That's what we call a power hour doing,

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Speaker 2: by the way, the Lord's work. Thank you, Andrew Siliano

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Speaker 2: for giving us so much of your of your time.

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Speaker 2: Our number two coming up, defensive coordinator, Brian Store. We've

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Speaker 2: got Cynthia Freeland. We've got a lot of stuff. We're

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Speaker 2: Brown's Special Teams Coordinator Byron Store from his Availa ability

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to introduce Mirror because you already said okay,

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Speaker 4: oh hey, I just want to say first off is

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be here in Cleveland. Every coach

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Speaker 4: I've talked to that I've come around has spoken extremely

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Speaker 4: highly of Cleveland and their experience here. They were they

1122
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 4: ranked it as one of their top spots.

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Speaker 7: And that's no bs SO and the Browns organization.

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Speaker 4: I'm truly honored and privileged to be in this part

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Speaker 4: of this organization. As a coach in this organization, I'm

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Speaker 4: really excited about the players.

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Speaker 3: There's the guys that.

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Speaker 4: I am going to work with that I'm pretty excited about.

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Speaker 4: And it's you know, Andre Schmidt and Rex Sanajara and

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Speaker 4: guys like Winston Reed and Nate Watson and Easton Macaranas

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Speaker 4: Arnold and Donovan McMillan and.

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Speaker 7: Chris Edmonds and Aiden Huntington and.

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Speaker 4: Male Kai Corley and uh Gage Lobndon and uh. I

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Speaker 4: don't think I'm forgetting any of them, but those are

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Speaker 4: some of the guys I'm pumped up about the coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: I got.

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Speaker 4: I get a chance to learn from a lot of

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Speaker 4: new faces.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of experience with the guys

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00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: on staff, uh so it's an opportunity for me to

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00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 4: learn from those guys. So that pumps me up. And

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00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 4: then I also want to mention my assistant Keith Tandy.

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00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: Super excited to work with Keith. He played for seven

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00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: years in the NFL and he's going on his seventh

1146
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 4: year coaching, so I'm pretty excited about him and having

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Speaker 4: him with me.

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Speaker 7: He's a huge resource for me.

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Speaker 4: He's been in multiple different systems, so I'm fired up

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Speaker 4: about Keith and and then the fan base.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 4: I've been around town a little bit and learning the areas,

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00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I get a few will from

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00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 4: the people I've talked to that the fan base here

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Speaker 4: is pretty special. And I'm coming from Green Bay Packers

1156
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 4: and the fans are pretty special there too, But this

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00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: is a different feel for me.

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Speaker 7: I think the dog Pound now is pretty strong here.

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Speaker 4: I can feel it already, but you know, really, I

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Speaker 4: the next thing I want to say is just thank

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Speaker 4: you to Todd Monkin, Andrew Berry, the Haslam family. It's

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Speaker 4: you know, it's a for them to have the trust

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Speaker 4: and faith in me to run their special teams.

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Speaker 7: That means a lot to me.

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Speaker 4: And lastly, but not least, I also want to thank

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Speaker 4: my my wife Ashley, and my three daughters, Benny, Lulu

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Speaker 4: and gal uh for their unconditional love and support. So

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Speaker 4: with that, any questions you have for me, I'll take

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Speaker 4: them at this time.

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Speaker 3: What did you see as the immediate pressing needs for

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Speaker 3: you guys to get a specialteach turn around, Dre, you

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Speaker 3: can get asset to the rest of you.

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Speaker 4: You know, I thought about that question. Uh So I'm

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Speaker 4: glad you asked it. The thing about I think the

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Speaker 4: ask the the the building blocks are here, the foundation

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Speaker 4: of players is here. So, like I said, those players

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Speaker 4: that I named off I'm really excited about, and I

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Speaker 4: think that really for me, it's about starting building a

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Speaker 4: really strong foundation of techniques and fundamentals, Like we're gonna

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Speaker 4: master the basics.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Fundamentally and tech technically sound, and then we'll build from

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Speaker 4: there and then you know, so it goes by a

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Speaker 4: phase now, so it'll be you know, we'll start with

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Speaker 4: coverage and we'll drill that down, and then we'll go

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Speaker 4: to pump protection, drill that down, return phases, drill that down.

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Speaker 4: So it's just gonna be a lot of drill work

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Speaker 4: to start and mastering techniques and fundamentals and then going

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Speaker 4: from there. But in terms of the players, I believe

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Speaker 4: in a lot of Like when I went through the

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Speaker 4: interview process, I got fired up about the players that

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Speaker 4: we have here, and then we're gonna obviously going to

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Speaker 4: add more as we go through free agency and in

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Speaker 4: the draft.

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Speaker 7: So for me, it's about mastering the basics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that has a rich as rich had on you.

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Speaker 8: You've been with them since all the way back as

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Speaker 8: a player in Campa. Just how has he sort of

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Speaker 8: molded you and as a coach in your philosophy towards question?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Rich, it starts and ends with Rich. Now,

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Speaker 4: I spent ten years as a coach for Rich as

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Speaker 4: his assistant, and I spent three years as a player

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Speaker 4: for Rich. So everything I really know starts with Rich.

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Speaker 4: And one thing about Rich is that he is a

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Speaker 4: master at making connections with players, and he is a

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Speaker 4: total the best leader of men that I've ever been around.

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Speaker 4: So first and foremost, he taught me how to be

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Speaker 4: a leader and how to connect with players, because it's

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Speaker 4: all about the players. And the other thing about Rich

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Speaker 4: is Rich. Now, when I first got with him, he

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Speaker 4: was he does everything by hand. Now, he drew all

1212
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Speaker 4: of his stuff, and the first way I helped him

1213
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 4: was just put all of his stuff on the computer.

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Speaker 7: And then that was the first thing I did, just

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01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 7: you know, helping him get his Scout.

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Speaker 4: Report on computer to playbook on computer. And as I

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Speaker 4: went through that, I read all of his notes. You know,

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Speaker 4: I took copious amount of notes in his in his meetings,

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Speaker 4: and I transferred all that into a playbook and scouting report.

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Speaker 4: And then as I got further along the line with Rich,

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Speaker 4: he let me run drills and run meetings and then

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Speaker 4: put a practice plan together, put an install plan together,

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Speaker 4: evaluate players, and so I think it all came to

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Speaker 4: a head really in twenty twenty one when he became

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Speaker 4: the interim head coach. That's when I really got a

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Speaker 4: chance to see what this job really is because he

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Speaker 4: was the head coach now. So I took on a

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Speaker 4: lot of responsibility from Rich during that time in terms

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Speaker 4: of getting in front of the team, presenting the keys

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Speaker 4: to the victory, you know, putting the plan together, script

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Speaker 4: and practice coaching every day, making the corrections.

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Speaker 7: In the meeting room.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like that experience with Rich in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty one, and then Matt Lafleur did a great job

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Speaker 4: too of giving the opportunity to get in front of

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Speaker 4: the team and presenting in front of the team some

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Speaker 4: of the things we do a ball meeting.

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Speaker 7: We did a ball meeting every week.

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Speaker 4: So he give me the opportunity to get in front

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Speaker 4: of the guys. And then, you know, being with Rich

1241
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 4: for over ten years, little things would come up, and

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Speaker 4: I think last year he had kidney stones, on a Friday,

1243
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 4: and we found out at like five am. It's like

1244
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 4: we didn't blink an eye, just hopped in there and

1245
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Speaker 4: ran the meeting and got ready for practice. And then Rich,

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Speaker 4: who's a stud, made it back for practice. So really

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Speaker 4: everything I know always from Rich.

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Speaker 7: And uh, that's that's all I have to say about that.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: I mean, did you know that was coming down?

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Speaker 6: And would you ever think about what you're bringing him

1252
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Speaker 6: here is like a senior fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Or anything there?

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Speaker 7: Well, I would look.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the first thing I asked him after he

1256
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Speaker 4: resigned from Green Bay. I said, does that mean I

1257
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Speaker 4: get to bring you bring you in as my consultant?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 4: No, I think Rich actually took a job at Clemson,

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Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 7: He did mention it to me, and it was kind

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Speaker 7: of excuse me. It was kind of.

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Speaker 4: After I had already got the job in Cleveland, and

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Speaker 4: he kind of said, you know, this is I'm thinking

1265
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Speaker 4: about retiring.

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Speaker 7: And he's like, what do you think?

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Speaker 4: And I and I just said, you know what, coach,

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01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: uh going through the process here in Cleveland and uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, and getting to know Todd Monkin and Andrew

1270
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Speaker 4: Berry and you know, the Cleveland's where I want to be,

1271
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 4: and so you know, he did let me know about that,

1272
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 4: but I didn't know for sure if he was going

1273
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: to do it or not. You know, it was kind

1274
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: of like in passing, like this is what I'm thinking.

1275
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 4: But you know, he went back to work, so I thought,

1276
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 4: you know, he's going to go back and running back

1277
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Speaker 4: another year.

1278
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Speaker 7: So but I Rich wish.

1279
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Speaker 4: Rich all the best. We stay in touch, we talk

1280
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Speaker 4: all the time, and so I always have him as

1281
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Speaker 4: a guy that I can call at any point in

1282
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Speaker 4: time and ask questions.

1283
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Speaker 2: Okay, so special teams coach, and now you.

1284
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 7: Help a ticker or a punter when the game was

1285
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 7: su who.

1286
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Speaker 3: You haven't done yet?

1287
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm not a kid can coach, as I'll

1288
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 4: tell you guys that first and foremost.

1289
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Speaker 3: But one thing.

1290
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 4: I'd like to do is I really study the player. Okay,

1291
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 4: study the player, and I ask him a ton of

1292
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 4: questions okay, and we we get together and decide, okay,

1293
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 4: this this is what it should look like. This is

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Speaker 4: what it should look like. And he it's from him

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Speaker 4: telling me this is what it should look like, this

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Speaker 4: is how I should this is the contact I'm looking for.

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01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 4: This is the finish I'm looking for. This is how

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Speaker 4: I should hold the ball, or this is how my

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Speaker 4: foot should be, my angle, my approach, angles all those

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Speaker 4: different things. He tells me what's good, okay, how it

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Speaker 4: should look, when things are, when he gets the results

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Speaker 4: that he wants, and then I hold him to that standard.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I do, you know. And then if

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Speaker 4: they're I'm not opposed to them if they had a

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Speaker 4: lot of these guys already have kicking coaches already, So

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Speaker 4: if they want to talk to their kicking coach, I

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Speaker 4: have no problem with that.

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Speaker 3: Just reading your.

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Speaker 9: Bio, was curious about those handful of years you stepped

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 9: away from coaching and went back to your family business,

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 9: Like how did that change your life and taking that

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01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 9: sort of sabbatical and when you came back.

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Speaker 5: How it's different.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So my story was, you know, I talked to

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Speaker 4: Dan about this earlier. I said, I don't want to

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01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 4: get too long winded with this if I have to

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 4: talk about it. But so I played three years, okay,

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01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 4: and my career ended two knee injuries, and so I

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01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,959
Speaker 4: went up to coach Rich Massage's office and I said, hey, coach,

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Speaker 4: just want to let you know, thank you for the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: It's probably the reason why I'm here is because of you.

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Speaker 4: So and I'm going to go business school, you know,

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01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 4: I might go work for the family business. And Rich said,

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Speaker 4: hold on, hold on, what do you think about coaching?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 7: And so I got straight into coach, like.

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Speaker 4: The in Tampa Bay, I finished playing the year that

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01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 4: I was on IR, I started writing the write ups

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Speaker 4: on players and like, so I wouldn't go on the

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Speaker 4: field and coach at all, but I do like evaluations

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 4: of our opponents and give them to Rich and he

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 4: would give them.

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Speaker 7: To the players. So I went into that.

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Speaker 4: Got a coaching job the next year in twenty ten,

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01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 4: and then I had gone four years coaching. But you

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Speaker 4: have to understand, like I come from a four generation

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 4: bus family. Okay, my great grandfather started a bus company

1338
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 4: in nineteen fifty two. Okay, So like none of my

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 4: family coaches. Okay, So that in my vision of like

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 4: what I was gonna do with my life, coaching was.

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Speaker 7: Never what I saw for myself.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 4: My dad came to me in twenty thirteen. The twenty

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Speaker 4: thirteen season, we had a good year. I was in

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01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 4: at San Diego Chargers coaching on defense, actually as an

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 4: assistant linebackers coach under Joe Barry and John Pagano.

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 7: Mike McCoy was the head coach, and.

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01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 4: My dad came to me and said, I'm opening a

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01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: brand new branch of the business in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I was right. Gibbe, come on. That was a

1351
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: Brown special teams coordinator Byron Store from Availability on Wednesday.

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01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 2: When we come back, we do a little mail bag.

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01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: Little mail bag here for you on a Football Friday

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Let's bring in Gibbe. Let's bring in Doctor

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Speaker 2: j and Young Gabriel. It's time for a little mail bag.

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01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: Get your questions in. Apparently, Gibbe, you said you've got

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: questions in your ext them, so am I.

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 3: There we go. Bobby's first question I gotbby ask. Thanks.

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01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 3: Bobby totally threw a brunch into that.

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01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: Bob.

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01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 3: I can't ask the second one either. Number three, we'll

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01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 3: try which animal will be the worst coworker? And why?

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Speaker 2: Which animal? A cat? Because I'm allergic to them and

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01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: I hate them. Sorry, sorry, cat people, Sorry, it's super

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01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: allergic to him. And when you're a when you as

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01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: a species, the best compliment that somebody can give to

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01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 2: a cat is that it's like a dog to get

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: a dog.

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 3: That's right. Uh. What food would make the absolute worst

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: candle scent? That's a good one. There you go, Bobby.

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01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: What food?

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01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: Egg? Salad or a hard boiled egg? Just a hard

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01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: boiled egg, sulfur.

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01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 3: They're awful. We hard boiled eggs because my wife and

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01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 3: my father in law love them. I opened the container

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01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 3: and nothing like dry heaving itself.

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01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: I'm having a visceral reaction in the morning.

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 3: There you go. If you had to replace your hands

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 3: with something from a kitchen, what are you choosing? G

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01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 3: Man said, scissors, scissor hands.

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Speaker 2: If I had to replace my hands with something from

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: the kitchen, yeah, no, I mean I originally thought like,

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01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: if it has to be a kitchen are utensil, then

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,520
Speaker 2: I probably tongues because then I could sell like grab stuff.

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: But I was thinking, what about this is in my

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: kitchen a five fingered oven.

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01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 3: Mitt I guess that's not really answer for this.

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be functional here, dude, my hands are gone.

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 2: I think tongues would have to be the right answer,

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01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: or maybe like one hand tongue, one hand ladle, so

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: I could just like ladle and scoop pasta or soup

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01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 2: into my mouth. Okay, I might need it to be

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01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: a tongue and a spoon. You might have to have

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01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 2: a spoon. How is if? Like why was are you

1404
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: gonna hold a spoon with your toes?

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01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 3: I think the spoon is like like connected to your

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: to your body.

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01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're instead of a hand, you have a spoon. Yeah,

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: this is a weird one, Bobby, not gonna lie.

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 3: You can only listen to one song for the rest

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01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: of the year.

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 2: What are you picking for the rest of the year. Yeah,

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: that's a really tough one. Uh. It's probably got to

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01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: be like a wrestling theme because it's something like or

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: something instrumental where I'm just like feeling the vibe. I

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 2: don't think it could be that song with lyrics. I

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: think I'd get like, you'd eventually get sick of it.

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01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: Maybe Roman reigns this theme. It's a good one that

1418
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: always gets me juiced in the gym. There you go,

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: the Game of Thrones theme, Last of Mohicans theme.

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01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: This is an interesting one from Trey Carey. Would we

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,919
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl with fifty three Miles Garretts?

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01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: No, No, you have to score, Like if they were

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01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 2: the Miles Garrett of their position, then yeah, we'd go undefeed.

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 3: It No, like if we if we cloned Miles Garrett

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 3: fifty three times, somebody has to play offense. He would

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,839
Speaker 3: play running back. Miles Garrett would hand off to Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is a supreme athlete. But like, I do

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01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: think that it would be tough. I mean maybe, I

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01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 2: don't know. Could five Miles Garretts blow every defensive line off.

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: The ball, That's what I'm saying.

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. At some point they're gonna throw so

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: like three hundred and eighty pounds, just like space eaters

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01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: out there, And I feel like that would be hard

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01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: as strong and gifted as he is, like if he was.

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking the questions.

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I No, I don't think so. I think if

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Speaker 2: you had fifty three miles Garretts at their respective positions,

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01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: you'd never lose.

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 3: Uh. If you had to set this is from the

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01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 3: cl fan in shy Town.

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 2: This is your burner. What do you mean this is?

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01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't know who that is? You stumble reading it.

1444
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 2: Very believable if.

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01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: You if you had to set the line, don't choke, Jake,

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01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 3: don't don't choke, doctor j.

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01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: If you what's going on in there?

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01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 3: They're they're all, they've all gone mad, everybody. If you

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 3: had to set the line for a number of transactions

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01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 3: next week, where would you put it? More trade, Well,

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 3: I'll forget about that. More trades are free agent signings?

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01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 3: Say that again, more trades or free agent signings for

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 3: the Browns next week?

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01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: Of course there's gonna be more free agenc.

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01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 3: I thinks, what about in the NFL?

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 2: Of course there's me more for every every time somebody

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01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 2: finds a contract. I don't know, I'm just asking the question, Okay,

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 2: you're burner.

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, Bobby says, tongs on the left, spoon

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Speaker 3: on the right.

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01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: By the way, hold on, can I just jump in

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 2: real fast? I don't know you guys know this, but

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01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: Logan Paul and Le'Veon Bell have agreed to terms on

1464
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: a boxing match. Ten ounce gloves, no head year, three

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01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: minute rounds until someone quits.

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01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: Perfect.

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: This is really happening.

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01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 3: Perfect, Nothing but positive things can happen there and on

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Speaker 3: a number of different levels. Shout out to uh Jack Jenko,

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01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 3: he just got his license? Can I get breaking new?

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 3: Shout out to the near West Side's newest driver.

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Speaker 2: Who just congrats, yes you can.

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01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: Good job, well done, well done kid, Uh real quick

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Speaker 3: because we have to go to break now. Okay, iron

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: well top two meals from the cafeteria downstairs. Ever, I'm assuming.

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01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 2: I still go back that one time that one split

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01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: piece soup was just with a smoked ham and it

1478
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 2: was just a revelation. It was incredible.

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01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 3: It's it's the top of the.

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01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: Soup that was unbelievable. They've had some great smoked meats.

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 2: Elk Elk was very good. Sure sure, sure, sure, Yeah,

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01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: we've had a lot of good.

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01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 3: Stuff LaBelle Holly, They're awesome.

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01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: All right, we gotta go to break. Cynthia Freeland Next.

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Speaker 2: Cynthia Freeland is next. Clevet Brown Dailey fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Danley on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Browns. Please bed responsibly.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cleveland Brown's daily Time. Now to head

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01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: back to Indianapolis to the Combine. I got to sit

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Speaker 2: down with NFL network analysts and analytics expert Cynthia Freeland.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen. One of the great treats of the combine.

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01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 2: We had talked to our old friend Cynthia Freeland. The

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01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: most baddest, amazing person on planet Earth. That's the official

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01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: title these days. How are you doing? And welcome to Indy.

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01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 2: What's going on? You know?

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Speaker 10: I'm glad like it's so strange, like they redid this

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 10: whole area.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about it? Your a review?

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Speaker 10: I I it's not as cozy, agreed, it feels very

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01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 10: like far apart, So I'm weird it out.

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01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: If I'm on speaking our view by the way, spectacular

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01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 2: a panted a beige painted brick wall.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, if you needed to get out, you'd beat there.

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01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: We're right there, so yes, in the event, and by

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01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: the way, that's actually turned out to be a pretty

1507
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: good thing because you know, you walked through here, I'm

1508
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: sure you're getting grabbed. This is why you have your

1509
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: henchmen with you to protect you and shield you from

1510
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: all that.

1511
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 10: Just terrible time. That's that's his job.

1512
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to we go out here so we

1513
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: can go down there without being smart.

1514
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 10: Yeah sometimes smart, Yes, that's brilliant.

1515
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: Well, we do what we can. We got to make

1516
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: it work here. When you come to this year's combine,

1517
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 2: what in your mind is the thing that you're most

1518
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: excited to learn study? See maybe eve, it's even a

1519
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: person to talk to present company excluded Obviously it's too

1520
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: much of a leaf right here, right duh.

1521
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 10: But no, it's interesting because I think we've talked about

1522
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 10: it before how we'll want to hate the transfer portal,

1523
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 10: but we're now seeing like transfer portal meets nil meets draft.

1524
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 10: So this is the first time. And by the way,

1525
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 10: ten new head coaches at on top of all of that,

1526
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 10: including ours correct. So the question is is how am

1527
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 10: I looking at this resume of college experience and it's

1528
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 10: sometimes looks like pew pew, pew pew pew over here,

1529
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 10: and then seeing how playbooks have thinned out because if

1530
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 10: your quarterback moves or you're whatever, if people keep shifting

1531
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 10: around so much, you're not getting into deeper plays in

1532
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 10: the playbook. So it's a thinner playbook. They've been in

1533
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 10: college longer. So some of these guys are downright old

1534
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 10: for the combine. Listen back in my day when we

1535
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 10: have to sit out a year if you try to

1536
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 10: move different school, whatever, that was so different. So when

1537
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 10: you're looking at like the ages with the thin resumes,

1538
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 10: I don't know how these ten new head coaches are

1539
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 10: evaluating everyone because it feels like it's a whole new world, right,

1540
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 10: Like it's a totally different I feel like it's just

1541
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 10: so strange.

1542
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 2: So what's interesting? So we talked with with Glenn Cook,

1543
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 2: our assistant general. Mabe. Oh, Glenn, yeah, Glenn.

1544
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 10: Oh, I love Glenn. You know that I love Glenn, right,

1545
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 10: I do. Now, Glenn is worlds. Glenn is like fake angry,

1546
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 10: like he has like a stoe that's good. Don't don't

1547
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 10: tell anyone that I'm saying this. No, it's just between us.

1548
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 10: But he he's a very stoic, like he's super smart,

1549
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 10: very stoic. He doesn't want to like say the wrong

1550
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 10: thing because like eventually he deserves to be a GM,

1551
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 10: so he's like making sure. But he is hilarious, Like

1552
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 10: he's just hilarious. And he's also like the nicest person ever.

1553
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 10: He is a great guy, Like he feels like a

1554
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 10: big brother.

1555
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: He's so friendly that you could be walking in sant

1556
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: Elmo's you never know who's gonna be sitting with because

1557
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: he's just.

1558
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 10: Trend all truly truly give me something.

1559
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: So I was talking Glen about it. We actual talked

1560
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: to coach Mounkin about it. We've talked to him. It's

1561
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: actually been a topic, and I'm glad you brought up

1562
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 2: because a lot of people have been talking about that

1563
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 2: and there's maybe a couple of schools of thought. The

1564
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 2: one is now with nil you understand, Okay, how does

1565
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,799
Speaker 2: money affect these kids? You actually get a better idea

1566
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,879
Speaker 2: of Okay, we've seen some of these kids' seven figures.

1567
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: Do they still have the hunger? Do they still you know,

1568
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 2: there's a lot.

1569
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 10: More bling in the ear like earrings. Oh yes, these kids,

1570
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 10: Like I've been looking at the prospects. I've never seen

1571
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 10: so many earrings.

1572
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 2: My lobes are pure.

1573
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 10: I mean I have a little one, little chips compared

1574
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 10: to these kids.

1575
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: Seriously, it must be nice, must be nice. So there's

1576
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: that aspect of it. Then there's you can see how

1577
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: quickly if you have you know, and we have kids

1578
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 2: that are you know, one year in this school, the

1579
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: next year in this school, and the third year and

1580
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 2: the third school, how do they handle coming into new

1581
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: locker rooms? And it gives actually the scouts what Glenn

1582
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: was saying is you now have multiple touch points of

1583
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 2: opinion because sometimes when somebody's coming through one program the

1584
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: whole time they want to pump that up right, They

1585
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: want our program to be good. So he thinks there

1586
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: is some more information, but the same time you'll get

1587
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 2: see him develop in one system and see what that

1588
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: looks like. So it is it's almost a new era

1589
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: of scouting and trying to really understand who these kids are.

1590
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 10: Totally different stuff. And I will say and like this

1591
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 10: is a little off track, but I like it. I

1592
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 10: will say one of the things I've noticed though, is

1593
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 10: you do get like a better like you can. You

1594
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 10: can judge their emotional foundation a little bit better because

1595
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 10: the ones who look you in the eye and talk

1596
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 10: to you are now fewer and far between, but they

1597
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 10: stand out, and like the guys who are really good

1598
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 10: stand out because they did develop in a system, they

1599
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 10: did get better every season they do like so that

1600
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 10: used to be part for the course they are now.

1601
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 10: So now you're like, Okay, well, I know you're found.

1602
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 10: You have figured out how to at least play this game. Absolutely,

1603
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 10: I don't know, I don't know what the rest of

1604
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 10: it means, but at least you figured out how to

1605
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 10: play this recruiting game.

1606
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 2: You know, when you think about kind of the quarterback position,

1607
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 2: that's obviously the big one in the NFL. This is

1608
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: a draft by by most accounts, is you know for

1609
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: Danna Mendoz is going to go number one? You can

1610
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: pretty sure that down.

1611
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 10: I just did talk to the Raiders and they're like,

1612
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 10: I think he's bought. I think he already like bought

1613
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 10: a house in Henderson and they're joking with.

1614
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: Fantastic great spot to be lots of good golf out there.

1615
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: I mean he could. I mean, it is, it's certainly

1616
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 2: in play. But then after that, this is a class

1617
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: and you know some people like Tysimson. But we'll see

1618
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: where that all shakes out as we go through it.

1619
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: But you know the real question is going to be

1620
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 2: what is Malik Willis who has a very small sample

1621
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: size and I know you are very much into the

1622
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: numbers and the analytics and the stats and all of that.

1623
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: He's going to be the top free agent quarterback. Then

1624
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: you've got Kyler Murray who was likely to at some

1625
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: point hit the market. Yes, how do you kind of

1626
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: see this quarterback landscapeing to you? What are the big dominoes?

1627
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: And maybe how you could see the shakeout?

1628
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 10: Where's Mac Jones go? Because that's the other one I

1629
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:08,919
Speaker 10: care about.

1630
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: So that's an interest one. If I'm the Niners, if

1631
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm Kyle and John Lynch, right, I saw what he

1632
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 2: could do in my system. Now if I'm the rest

1633
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: of the league, I said, oh, he's just like Sam

1634
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: Darnold went to Kyle finishing school and then came out

1635
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: of there and oh man, he's pretty darn good. Can

1636
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 2: Mac Jones be that next guy? Right?

1637
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 4: Yep?

1638
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: If they I think if even if he doesn't play

1639
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: this year, if they let him walk, somebody's gonna give

1640
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: him a good contract. So to me, he's gonna bring

1641
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: in a compensatory third when he leaves. So don't you

1642
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: think that it starts then in the second if you

1643
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: want him now, you'd think And will somebody give a

1644
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: second for mac Jones?

1645
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 10: I think they might.

1646
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 2: You think they might.

1647
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 10: There aren't thirty two guys that are that are able

1648
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 10: to play this game.

1649
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: It's a problem. I know, we're still listen, We're on

1650
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 2: our search. You know, we hope obviously Deshaun Watson can

1651
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: recapture his past glory. We hope that, you know, should Sanders.

1652
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: We saw some good some not so good that maybe

1653
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: the not so good goes away and the good show

1654
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: was there. But yeah, that's the whole question, the lead.

1655
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 10: But even some team, I mean, like where does is

1656
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 10: Kirk Cousins? Okay, I'm like where, Like what happens with that?

1657
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 2: Like he played very well at the end of the.

1658
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 10: Year, right, And what about Tua? We didn't even talk

1659
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 10: about Tua. Does he go to Atlanta? That would be interesting,

1660
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 10: Like I think we could see some crazy wave of

1661
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 10: free agency. These moves could be totally bananas, but I

1662
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 10: think like the maliqualest one is a little scary for me.

1663
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie.

1664
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, when you look at it, and every time

1665
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 2: he's played it with Green Bay, with Matt Lafleur, it's

1666
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: looked good. Yeah, but we haven't seen a game where

1667
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: he's aired it out. I don't even think thirty four

1668
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: times we haven't seen I think six starts yep, and

1669
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 2: he's gonna get somebody is going to give him thirty

1670
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 2: plus million.

1671
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 10: Absolutely there.

1672
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're there. What do you like about it?

1673
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 2: What do you what makes you nervous? Because you are

1674
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: a little nervous. Just a lack of samples ize.

1675
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 10: I think the I don't have enough information on his

1676
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,040
Speaker 10: decision making. So I actually have more information on and

1677
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 10: cam Ward's decision making. And it's better. It's like it's

1678
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 10: more positive than it looked.

1679
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 2: He got I thought he was quite good. By the

1680
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 2: end of the year.

1681
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 10: He got better every single game. I mean, the poor

1682
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 10: kid was under so much dress, like please just get it,

1683
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 10: get the ball out fast, like whatever. But my point

1684
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 10: is is with a rookie who's played one season, I

1685
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 10: have more information on him than Alik will Is that

1686
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 10: it's just a little confusing. I mean, do we see Arizona.

1687
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 10: I mean there is a laflur connection there. I mean,

1688
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 10: I know, I'm just curious to see how.

1689
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 2: They got Jeff Haffley. Everybody in from Green Bays now

1690
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: in Miami, Miami, go after him.

1691
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 10: I love Jeff Haffley, Like I went to b C

1692
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 10: so you know, he was.

1693
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: Our dB coach in twenty fourteen. He was on that

1694
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: Mike Petton staff that is basically coaching the league now.

1695
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 10: Amazing.

1696
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

1697
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,799
Speaker 10: So but you're you're looking that there's so many different

1698
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 10: areas that he I'm I'm curious to see. It will

1699
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 10: depend entirely on who's around him. To me, and entirely

1700
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 10: on like you can't he needs an on line. He

1701
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 10: I know, he's I know he's a capable runner, but

1702
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 10: he needs everyone to.

1703
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,919
Speaker 2: Everybody needs lesson. We're looking at potentially five new starters

1704
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,600
Speaker 2: on our offensive line. That is going to be a

1705
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: big one for us. Just kind of Brown's big picture,

1706
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: high level. I know, you keep tabs on us all

1707
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: the time. Of course, Todd Mounkin coming in, you know,

1708
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: defense was excellent obviously, Jim Schwartz come. But the whole

1709
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: staff intact. They bring in Utenberg gonna run a very

1710
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 2: similar style system to what they have, but every position

1711
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: coach remains the same, which I think is a good

1712
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: connective tissue for the players. You know, if this team

1713
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 2: can just get to middle of the league on offense,

1714
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 2: we've got a shot, right.

1715
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 10: Absolutely, If you can have stability on offense, it doesn't

1716
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 10: need to be top five. It doesn't look at the look.

1717
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: At the Broncos.

1718
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 10: Do you do you remember that Broncos Jets game that

1719
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 10: was played in England. I was so sad we exported

1720
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Speaker 10: that to them. I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, horrible game.

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Speaker 10: Then they were almost playing for a chance to go

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01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 10: in Super Bowl. Not because they had this offense that

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01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 10: was lighting the world on fire, because they had an offense.

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01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: That was serviceable and they didn't fourth quarter, he'd sure, but.

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01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 10: He'd take negative plays Bonix did not take like that

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01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 10: was his biggest strength was that he didn't do the

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01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 10: bad mistake often. Yeah, you know, he didn't take the sacks.

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01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 10: Sean Payton said, I had the season that if he

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01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 10: didn't take sacks that their defense would win them a

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01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 10: Super Bowl and everyone was like, what a crazy thing

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01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 10: to say, And he was almost right. He's like one

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 10: ankle injury away from being right.

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Speaker 2: He was, and maybe some field goal decision. So you

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01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 2: love to dabble in this world. Yeah, what do you

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01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 2: make of the trend in fourth down field versus field goals?

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01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: And I know that some to me numbers and the

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01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: added win expectancy, I've added win value all that that

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01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: makes less sense. But sometimes three points is a lot.

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01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 2: It's three more than zero.

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01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't there's no like, you know, analytics overlord,

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01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 10: that's like, don't kick the field goal, Like, that's not

1743
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 10: how this works, right, And a lot of teams it's

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01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 10: their identity. So if you look at the Lions with

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01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,440
Speaker 10: Dan Campbell, that was it wasn't necessarily the right analytics

1746
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 10: decision to go for it as much as they did,

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01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 10: but they chose to do that and that was who

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01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 10: they were, and they practiced it and they felt comfortable

1749
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 10: with it, so psychologically there was an at it, right,

1750
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 10: so they did it. Now it stopped working and they

1751
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 10: kept doing it. That's where things get a little dicey.

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01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 2: You go back to the NSCU Championship, came against the

1753
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: Niners two years ago for them to I grew up

1754
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: in the Bay Area, so I get it. I'm as

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01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: but yeah, you can look at that and you're just like.

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01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 10: But you mess with your identity and like.

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01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: Things go poorly, the sword die by the say right.

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01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 10: But ultimately, ultimately you need to have a few plays

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01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 10: that are like if you're the Eagles and you have

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01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 10: the touch push, whatever your feelings are on it, but

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01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 10: you have that, you have that play, you have that

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01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 10: O line, you have the people who could actually execute

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01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 10: the play, which is way easier said than done. You

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01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 10: can't just run that. Nobody else does it, nobody else.

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01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 10: Then it does actually give you an advantage because you

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01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 10: are winning those you haven't, So third down and four

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01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 10: becomes like third and two because you could get that anyways.

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01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 10: But the point is.

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Speaker 2: Is they're starting the Eagles really start it first down

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01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: in eight and a half.

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Speaker 10: That's right, that's right, fifteen percent advantage. I mean that's

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01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 10: exactly significant, exactly. So it's really all about like the

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01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 10: everything working together. So to me, I don't think there's

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01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 10: one answer, and I also don't know because I'm not

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01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 10: the coach, but like I hate on team when they're

1776
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 10: like the analytics say to go for like did they

1777
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 10: did you know someone playing did Miles Gear just crush

1778
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 10: my left tackle because probably shouldn't go for two if

1779
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 10: my left tackle is like not necessarily okay, right, So

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01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 10: there are there, there are reasons not to. You need

1781
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 10: to create a you need to create a structure so

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01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 10: you know if you're if you're doing the high probability

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01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 10: or the low probability thing. It doesn't mean you shouldn't

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01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 10: sometimes pick the low probability thing, but it's knowing you

1785
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 10: got it. You're on a map. If you don't know

1786
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 10: where you are, you can't figure out which way this

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01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 10: map goes right.

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01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: And the other thing that I'm sure is frustrating for you.

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01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 2: But sometimes this discourse around these things are so outcome bias. God,

1790
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily right. I would say to people, you

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01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 2: go to casino, you're playing blackjack, obviously off season, not

1792
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 2: an NFL trip.

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01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,560
Speaker 10: What are you talking about? Compliance training? Sabrina Parrel. I'm

1794
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 10: always on it.

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01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: We just had a lot of compliance trained. By the way,

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01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: the last two weeks, we're a really heavy compliance trip.

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01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: But you go and you're playing black check and the

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01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 2: dealer shows a six and you've got eleven, you're going

1799
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 2: to double down? How you get the odds in your favor.

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Speaker 2: Now that doesn't guarantee you win that hey, well, but

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01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 2: it still was the right decision even if you see.

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01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 10: You have a framework, that's your framework. Right, if you

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01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 10: didn't know. If you were a newbie and you'd never

1804
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 10: played blackjack before, and you the dealer show stick and

1805
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 10: you how to load, you'd be like what you wouldn't know,

1806
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 10: but you wouldn't know you were making a high probability decision.

1807
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 10: You could make that decision. But if you don't know

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01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 10: the reason why you did something, you can't figure out

1809
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 10: where in your line of reasoning you either went right

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01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 10: or went wrong for sure, right, So it's like that's

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01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 10: where people get.

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01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: That's why it become so outcome biased, because they're not

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01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: thinking about the process that led to the decision. There's

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01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: looking at the result.

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01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 10: That's right. It drives me bonkers, I know it does.

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01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 10: The analytics say, I'm like, who's this analytics overlord? Can

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01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 10: I meet them?

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01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: You would probably guys would probably bring me that might

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01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: be you there it is, So we start off with

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Speaker 2: the most awesomest.

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Speaker 5: Man, ask me I wanted.

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Speaker 10: He asked me how I wanted to be introduced, and

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01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 10: that's what I said as a joke. But whatever.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna close it with We've enjoyed spending our

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Speaker 2: time with the analytics Overlord, Cynthia Freeland. Well there it is.

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Speaker 2: Sounds a good time. Good time, Cynthia Freeland at the

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