1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to stephone 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: never told your protection of iHeart Radio, and welcome to 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: our monthly book club. I feel like it needs to 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: be cheers with wines and all of that, but I 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: don't have any of those things. But cheers, cheers um, 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: And just a quick heads up. If you read the 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: title before you clicked on to listen to this episode, 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: you might already know there will be a lot of 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: bleeps for this episode. As uh, we are kids friendly. 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: You may not want to this is ironic because you 11 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: may not want to listen to this in front of 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: your kids. You may, however, you phil because this is 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: a we're talking about a not really children's children's book, 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: is how you would say it. It's a book that's 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: done in the style of a children's book, but it's 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: not really a children's book. Yeah right. I would give 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: this to my niece who was graduated from college, or 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: my niece in high school, and I think they would 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: appreciate them. Right. But it does have amazing illustration we'll 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: talk about later. And the book we were referring to 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: is The Little Girl Who Gave a Zero, written by 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: Amy Charlotte Keene and illustrated by j Milton. And yes, 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: we were really excited to discover this one. I was like, yeah, 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: this feels perfect for Christmas, and I feel like it 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: should be a gift for everyone. Yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: It was a delight because we were we had discussed 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: before on this show and off the show, we wanted 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: to do a children's book. Uh. We wanted to we 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: want to keep this kind of like, you know, not 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: limited to a certain type of book, um with this 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: comics of children's boo or whatever. And you found this one, 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: which again isn't necessarily a children's book, but it's very 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: much in the style of one, has the feeling of one. Yeah, 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: and we were very, very excited about it. I do 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: also think this is going to break our record for 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: most beleeps in a podcast, but I could be wrong. 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. So we're sorry ahead of time 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: if that bothers you. Um, I wonderful. We can do 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: an unedited version as a second request, Yes, long as 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: we have a heavy like hey f y um. Yeah. 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: As as you said, we love taking on new and 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: different types of books and literature. Uh and yeah, this 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: seemed perfect for us and for our show, and since 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: it's a short book, which by the way, is all 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: written in rhyme, and she has a poetry book as well, 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: if y'all interested go look her up, we thought we 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: would present this episode a bit differently. Instead of doing 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: the usual summary and then coming back with the themes, 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: we wanted to go ahead and talk about all the 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: themes along with some of the wonderful stanzas in the book. 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Is that what we call them stanzas? First of all, 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: I will go with it. Yeah, I'm sure there's somebody 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: who's studying Shakespeare that's like, this is not when you're 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: being prose prose. Yeah. First, for some context and background 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: of this book. In a Q and A with Keene, 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: she explained where her idea where this book came from 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: um and she said years ago, a more senior female 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: at an agency I work for said to me, you 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: have two options. You can be yourself or you can 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: progress in your career. And I've never forgotten it and 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: know so many people who have been told similar. Being 62 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: a woman in marketing is tricky because there's so much 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: personal critique. You're too loud, too enthusiastic, too informal, too emotional, 64 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: too nice, too hard on people, too overpowering, not enough gravitas, 65 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: too much cleavage close to front fee Uh of the 66 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: amount of times I've heard people say about stern female bosses, Oh, 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: she just needs a good shag. What's worse is this 68 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: is often women talking about other women. We forged strict 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: templates and regulate each other's behavior in a way that 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: men don't. The book is the fruit of my frustrations 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: and encourages women to be themselves, no matter what, person 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: only and professionally. It's about how we support each other 73 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: more and we don't always have to agree, but we 74 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: can stop pushing other women down as we clamber for 75 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: the spotlight. Um, there's room for all of us to 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: succeed and for a multitude of diverse, powerful characters. Yeah, 77 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and she talks about, you know, coming out of the 78 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: marketing world doing all of these things. This, by the way, 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: was published through Unbound Books, which she did through crowdsourcing 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: UM and apparently met her goal very quickly, and it's 81 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: a best seller. People were pretty shocked there, like this 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: is not a very successful She's like, oh watch me, 83 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: and it has Yeah. I mean, don't underestimate the power 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: of a title like that. We were immediately like what 85 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: is this? And Keen continued on saying she sees the 86 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: book as quote an oh to everyday bravery and being 87 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: true to yourself as brave. I love this quote from 88 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: American feminist Gloria Steinham. Any woman who chooses to behave 89 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: like a full human being should be warned that the 90 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: armies of the status quo will treat her as some 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: think of a dirty joke. She will need sisterhood. But 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: sisterhood is not a click or a privileged little industry 93 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: society that women are invited to join. It refers to 94 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: our behaviors as a social group. Will never be truly 95 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: equal unless we accept and take responsibility for the sometimes 96 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: subtle role we play and allowing inequality to thrive. Yeah 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: so we love that. Yes, and again there's so many 98 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: bleeps the strap in uh yeah, let's be in uh. So. 99 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: In the book, we follow along Ledie Rose and her 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: journey to be herself. We are introducing the book with 101 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: this uh quote. This is the story of a brave 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: young girl called Elodie Rose, who, on one completely average morning, 103 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: decides to change the world and keep her in her 104 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: basket all day you're confused, what are do you ask? 105 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: It is quite simple. So her blues esteems her happies 106 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: and wonderful thoughts that sit in her basket, that sit 107 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: in all girls baskets, and all girls must give these 108 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: away to any people who make them sad or angry 109 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: or tell them off for being too loud. With a 110 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: spring inter step in a buzz in her brain, Ledie 111 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Rose decides to see what happens if those stay where 112 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: they are. Yes, all right, so yeah, let's start our 113 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: journey with led Rose. Um, Ledie Rose, welcome, ready to 114 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: change the world. So here is a stanza and we'll 115 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: talk about this. Elodie Rose was a girl on a 116 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: mission in a town where girls act like obedient kittens, 117 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: sings offt the same tune and dance and nate same jig, 118 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: wear the same flowery dress and pretty blonde wigs. But 119 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: Ledi Rose vowed to change the old world. But led 120 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: Rose isn't like other girls. Um, yeah, so obviously we're 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: going to start with a bang. She wakes up with 122 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: some sass, as we would like to say, and ready 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: to go to change the world. Yeah, kind of a 124 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: clear like almost confusion about why why is the world 125 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: this way? Why do I have to be this way? 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: Like questioning? Questioning? Yeah, and we are introduced to the 127 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: what are they you might ask, Well, here is a quote. 128 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Fluffy are bouncy, are filled with slime, se existen since 129 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: day one of time. Unparalleled energy runs through their veins. 130 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Lively curious creatures. Each basket contains as unique as the 131 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: way your own tongue says your name. No two people's 132 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: are ever the same. I love it, I love I can't, 133 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: I can't. Rhyming schemes draw me in. They really do. 134 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I love it. And the descriptions, Yes, it's fantastic in hear, Yes, 135 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: and the imagery is great compared by side by side, 136 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: very very good. Um. And these are something all girls 137 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: carry in their baskets and usually by the end of 138 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: the day they will have given them all away. Oh 139 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: that was my rhyme. It was like a trapulaid for me, 140 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: all right, Yes, um, and yeah, that's the thing. It's like, oh, 141 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: will they give them all away? I haven't they give 142 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: them all away? We'll see. So we were introduced. She 143 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: gets a little bit of bullying, but then she goes 144 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: to school. Um and Elie Rose almost gives one of 145 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: her it's away when she hears um these other girls 146 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: talk about the trending of toes. So essentially this is 147 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: about body shaming. It took me a minute, so here's there. 148 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: Here's this first, what peculiar statements thought leddie Rose, who 149 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: gazed at these girls and then at her own toes, 150 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: where they fat, where they thin, clinically obese, where they 151 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: filled with pure large, just like over fed geese. Fingers 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: reached for a at the heft of her hoofs unwillingly 153 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: dampened by insecure youths. But clowns have big toes, and 154 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: they all have a ball and Rhinoso says, care a 155 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: little for toe sizes at all, All these beauties with 156 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: big paws completely content. If I hate both my feet, 157 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: then my will be spent. And as long as they'll 158 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: get me from A to B, my basket taste full 159 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: of my and my heart remains free. I did look 160 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: so in the illustration, and we're gonna mention the illustration 161 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot. You see these magazines, So obviously when we're 162 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: talking about toes, we're talking about body shaming. And also 163 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about the media influences and self esteem, 164 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: and here Keene takes it to a whole different level, 165 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: bringing in toes, which a lot of people don't white toes, 166 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: or maybe some people really like toes. That's on you, whatever, 167 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: But I did love that she took this moment to 168 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: talk about insecurities and then bringing in the fact that, yeah, 169 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: the rest of nature to give note. Why do we 170 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: you're adding in a This is so fun. I feel 171 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: like we're off the chain because we've never I know. 172 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: It's so I'm like, what show am I on right now? 173 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Are you added? Okay? I do love this. I know 174 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: I've told this story before, but I was I think 175 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: in high school, like early high school, and a friend 176 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: of mine found out that I didn't tweeze my eyebrows 177 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: and she acted like, oh, what are you doing? This 178 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: is the inter world And it wasn't a thing I 179 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: thought about. It wasn't like insecurity I had. And then 180 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: it became like, oh, I've been walking around like this, 181 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: I've got to go fix it. Like it, you know, 182 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: changes your whole when you're young, especially like hearing these 183 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: messages from the media, from your friends, people around you. 184 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: They do really really stick with you. And I love 185 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: how in this. It's put as like, you know, I 186 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: only have so many I can't I can't exactly not 187 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: for this one. And then there is moving on pressured, 188 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: this pressure by boys or society to let boys touch 189 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: or push you into uncomfortable positions. So here's a quote. 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Her ears could suck all the bad words and noise, 191 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: or ignored the lame things spat by insecure boys, those 192 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: stayed in her basket a wonderful thing. Feeling taller than ever, 193 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: she started to sing, if the boy is mean or 194 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: acts too keen or jealousy makes him turn bright green, 195 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: is very important not to give him one of your 196 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: because they're the most important thing a little girl's got. Mhm. 197 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, so we kind of just brant in this 198 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: small bit, but in this whole conversation, it's this dude 199 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: who literally just thinks that he can do this, and 200 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: all the other girls let him, and she's held hands. 201 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: Of course, it's very like benign types of things, but 202 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: it's still uncomfortable. Um, but like he's like, you held 203 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: all the other boys hands, well, what you hold mine? 204 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: As he owed she owed him something, and she was 205 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: she almost thought about it, and then she took it 206 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: back she was like nabra na um and we love 207 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: to see it. And he was angry and called her 208 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: a toad. That little versus really cute too, So you 209 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: should go back if you haven't, you should be getting this. 210 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: But yes, but I thought that was fantastic. I was like, 211 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: this is a great analogy of a lot of young 212 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: girls not understanding you don't have to be there. Yeah, 213 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: and and a great way of because we've talked abou 214 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: so much as young girls, a lot of us are 215 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: taught are worth is in our desirability of men, like 216 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: our male the male gaze, and if we're pretty, and 217 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: if they pays attention, even if it's like the worst 218 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of attention, then that's a good thing. It means 219 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm desired. It means I have worth, and how damaging 220 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: and horrible that is and how it contributes to so 221 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: much heartbreak and hurt and rape culture at large. So yeah, 222 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: it is very much when you're young girl. I remember 223 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: once this. I think I was like pretty young and 224 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: already like this kid kissed me in the playground and 225 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: then I pulled away and he I mean we were 226 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: like eight or nine, and he immediately was like I've 227 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: seen you with all the other boys. There were no 228 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: other boys like you like this, right, And though Eli 229 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Rose felt good at that moment, seeing other girls giving 230 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: their so freely made her sad. So she says, a 231 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: million small girls, all standing in tears, crushing their hopes 232 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: and expanding their fears. When you're stuck in the swamp, 233 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: all you see is the muck where they taught one 234 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: another to give all their faces. So I thought it 235 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: was really interesting. Uh. And of course, like we've talked 236 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: about supporting women, and yeah, there's a lot of backbiting, 237 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: but really doesn't have to be that way, um and 238 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: not perpetuating that um. And soon she meets Sophie Jane, 239 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: who at first seems wary of led Rose because at 240 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: this whole time everybody's watching her led Rose doing these things. 241 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: They're all shocked, eyes exploded, keep saying, eyes pop out, 242 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: but soon listens to Eldi Rose's story. Uh, she says, 243 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: it's nonsense and silly to worry of others. Be strong 244 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: and be kind. Fis a smile on your face gives 245 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: zero in the world's a more positive place. Yeah, yeah, 246 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's what we're talking about when we're talking 247 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: about supporting women because you know, there are plenty of 248 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: examples of things purposeful or not that are harmful that 249 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: women do to each other. But when you finds like 250 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: the friend, the solid friend, or the family member, and 251 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: you know they don't have to be perfect, but there 252 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: they have insights like this or support like this, like 253 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: they're there for you for that. That's what we're talking about, 254 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: like right, right, should think in the in the book, 255 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: she says, I'm no guru, but it is when you 256 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: see and you're inspired. It's kind of how the Me 257 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Too movement began. One person spoke up, and then another 258 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: person spoke up, and it became a home movement. And 259 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: that was the point that when you see inspirations like 260 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: finally caring for yourself and not holding it in, it 261 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: became a powerhouse of a movement. Of course, there's bumps 262 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: in in all the roads, but yeah, this is kind 263 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: of that level. And yeah, and they decided to be friends. 264 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: As in fact, they said, this is the second person. 265 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: Let's have lunch tomorrow, sit under the trees. Well like 266 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: chocolate cupcakes, talked with melted cheese. Sophie James swooned at 267 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: the thought of their feast united their friendship in eating 268 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: like beasts perfect. I'm not gonna lie. Melted cheese on 269 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: cookate does not sound good, Unles, you're talking about cream cheese. 270 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: I guess I think I think there could be some ways. 271 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: There could be some way, but I I like it. 272 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: I'll take it more for it. Yeah, the kind of like, 273 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: oh we can do this, which feels kind of like 274 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: but there's no boundaries. That's what exactly like. It's not 275 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: the normal thing, but we can do it. It doesn't matter. 276 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: We're not going to give our because we like it, 277 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: we want to do it. I love it et cupcakes 278 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: with Miltichie. I think you and I have really shown 279 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: her hand about like one of our very favorite things. 280 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: It's just friendships between women like in the media or 281 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: like it makes me cry. I love that. I do too. 282 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: I do too. So Upon returning home, Ldie Rose was anxious, 283 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: thinking her mother may disapprove and think that she was weird, 284 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: but was surprised when her mother told her of her 285 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: own experiences and how she was so proud of her. 286 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: I loved this part. Um. Here's a quote. If an 287 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: enemy tells you how to feel our judges when you 288 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: eat a meal, they crave your thunder swipe and steal, 289 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: give zero like no big deal. This unshines to make 290 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: us warm as toast, so safe for those who need 291 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: it most. Look to those who have no voice, born 292 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: without riches, and live without choice. Think of those who 293 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: need support. Act as kindly as you've been taught. Yes, yeah, yeah, 294 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: And in that story and we skipped over, but the 295 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: mother talks about how she had to give him all 296 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: away and that she just was so sad and loves 297 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: seeing that she's able to do this, and it is 298 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: so proud that she's standing up for herself in this. 299 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: So it was really sweet. It was really sweet because 300 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: we've just been primed to expect like the drama of 301 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: your disown and get out and these kind of stories. 302 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: But it was so nice when Eldie Rose was worried 303 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: and her mom was like, oh no, I'm so proud 304 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: of you and here's my experience, and uh, I do 305 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: like that inter generational support, but also like learn learn 306 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: from me and then grow from that, which is something 307 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: we talked about all the time too, right, And they 308 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: have to do this to be do more and be 309 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: beyond me, which we love to see. We want to 310 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: see people grow, and with our spirits high, Ledi Rose 311 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: went to bed to be visited by rebels before her, 312 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: and then this, it says, a woman appeared, saying, you 313 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: gave zero, What a wonderful day. I'll tell you a 314 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: story about me if I may. Once upon a time, 315 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: I was a young girl like you, with so many 316 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: things I wanted to do. My friend and I such 317 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: lives ahead of us, being inspired by being rebellious. Um. Yeah, 318 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: she told Elodie Rose of which trials and how men 319 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: quote driven by desire tortured and murdered them for being 320 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: different or not sticking to societal norms. Uh. And the 321 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: woman continued with her story. Dear Ledie Rose, this happened 322 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: to me. I was loud and different and long to 323 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: be free, had mischievous thoughts, refused to marry, and made 324 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: some men around me weary. I was trying and tested 325 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Brandon to which burned on a heap and dumped in 326 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: a ditch. Uh. And oh yeah, I was like, wow, 327 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: that's damn. That was Like, you know, I was expecting 328 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: a certain thing when it came to this book, and 329 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: this wasn't necessarily a surprise, but it was one of 330 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: the hardest like sharp turns of like, oh, we're talking 331 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: about the got you got you? Um, and the woman 332 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: spoke their warnings. Uh. And there were many women that 333 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: came around, so in the book it's not just her. 334 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: And then you see like a congregation of wronged women 335 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: who were rebellious and so therefore we're punished. Um. And 336 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: the women spoke their warnings and hopes and asked for 337 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: her to stand up for those from the past and 338 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: for quote the girls through the ages. And I thought 339 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: that was really yeah, it really was, like and then 340 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 1: the book literally goes dark because she's dreaming, but you're like, 341 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: what what just happened? It was such a cool, like 342 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: artistic tool because I had to lean in closer to 343 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: the book. Oh it's on purpose, I got you. Yeah, yeah, 344 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: yeah they did. They did a good a job. And like, 345 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: as you see, and we don't mention it here in 346 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: any of it, but like they talk about the buzz, 347 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: the buzz of being free, and that the terror and 348 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: the anxiety, but then realizing that it's a newness, being 349 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: new But in this conversation and this time of dreaming, 350 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: she hears bats and buzzing and like that the creepy 351 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: crawleys to tell her a truth that she didn't expect. Yeah, 352 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: and I love how it's again that kind of like, 353 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: this is what happened to me. Build on this. It's 354 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: not fear mongery. It's scary, but it's not meant to 355 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: scare her into giving zero rights. Inspire. Yes, I love it, um, 356 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: And soon she dreamed of possibilities for the future of 357 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: all girls. Um, here's a quote, resolved to make these 358 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: dreams come true. The ridiculous as your ideas may sound, 359 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: big things start from one thought profound, like the volcano 360 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: knows it's meant to rise, possibilities explode for a girl 361 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: who tries, Yeah, that's what we would like to be. Yeah. 362 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: And it's so sweet because there are these big, big 363 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: ideas in it. There's a constant theme of like speaking 364 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: up for others, being supportive, all that stuff. But it's 365 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: also a lot of the it's a celebrating of small 366 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: connections to like a friendship or her connection with her mom. 367 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. It's like these big 368 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: things but also these small things, right m um. Yeah say. 369 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: And at the end of the book, she wakes up 370 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: with a heart full of possibilities. Elodie Rose wrote down 371 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: the dreams and hopes for herself and so many others, 372 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: and it ends with when you're being brave and nerves attack, 373 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: don't let your basket hold you back. Your brain might 374 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: buzz and feel so strange, but we all have strength 375 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: to make things change, like the spark you fill when 376 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: lightning struck. Elodie Rose had wondered and pondered and thought 377 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: it important that the world needs more little girls who 378 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: give zero fox. Yes, Yes, I love it. I love it. 379 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. It's such a fun 380 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: quick read. It's really beautiful. It's beautifully illustrated, and yeah, 381 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: when you get your your company, which you should um 382 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: there are some wonderful Easter eggs with notable women leaders 383 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: throughout including I was like, oh, very iconic. Look, yeah 384 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: she did some hold up, I believe I found a 385 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Rosa park Frieda was I think was in there. Well, 386 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: there's so many amazing tools in this illustration, and it's 387 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: very whimsy, but yeah it is. I think it's a 388 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: hopeful call out for women who you know, care too 389 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: much or are too scared to care, like beyond these things. 390 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: And I found it really, really lovely and yeah, I 391 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: kind of want to buy it for my nieces and 392 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: my uh like older as I come. And again though 393 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: there's some who really have a handle and being able 394 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: to speak. I don't really, I don't know my former 395 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. That was my formal rebellion growing up. 396 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: So I was fine with it. But it's fantastic and 397 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: it kind of goes along the lines of go to 398 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: the bed. I think, um in that level, but it is. 399 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: It is a very inspiring feminist book. Uh. And I 400 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: love that it came in such a humorous thing, even 401 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: though it was it was a pretty big subject. Yeah 402 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: and as mentioned that got it can get pretty dark 403 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: in sections, but yeah, it's very heartwarming and uplifting and 404 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: it was one of those Usually when we do these 405 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: book clubs, I usually get the digital copy, but this 406 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: is one of the times where I was like, I 407 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: think I want to physical. I think I want this 408 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: to ownness and look at So I had downloaded on 409 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: audible as well as when it had ordered. I was like, yeah, 410 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna need this copy. I think, yeah, yeah, 411 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: me too, I think I might I might get it. Um. Yeah, 412 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: and I believe the author Is Keene is a I 413 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: want to say, a writer from the UK. I think 414 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: from London. I'm not really sure. Um, so I loved 415 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: her perspective. There's some interviews where she does more pros 416 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: uh talking about why does it have tony and she 417 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: said it's just words and sometimes you need to express 418 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: it that way. Loved all of that. Um. And then 419 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: when she talks about why she writes books, she said, 420 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: it's to command a little more people's time than five minutes. 421 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: I have a lot to say and I want to 422 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: sit on their shelves. I want to we get them 423 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: from coffee table when they're feeling low and odd and 424 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: need a bit of reassurance. I thought that was cute. 425 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: This is off of her website, Amy Charlotte Kane dot 426 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: co dot uk and yeah on here she has some 427 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: poetry House of Weeds. I believe it is one with 428 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: some fantastic drawings as well. Um, the Little Girl who 429 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: gave you a You can see a little preview of 430 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: that book. And then apparently she has another one, You 431 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: will Change the World. Um, I'm show of it because 432 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: you changed mine. So I don't know this up and 433 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: coming or if it's already been published, but she's got 434 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: a few out there and at cute Um. Dawngs on 435 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: that as well, and you can find her on Instagram 436 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: and Twitter, so there you go. But yeah, I loved it. 437 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: How did you feel about this? I love it too. 438 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: It was such a fun thing, and I was thinking 439 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: about I'm such a nerd for words and history of 440 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: words in mind to catch on, but I was thinking about, like, 441 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, giving it this title. I mean, it's very 442 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: eye catching obviously, but we've talked about that before where 443 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: it's not I'm cursing is not expected for women, but 444 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: especially like children. So I liked that too, that even 445 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: with that, you're like, okay, this is about kind of 446 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: breaking away from these expectations that young girls and women 447 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: have on them society placed. But no, it was super cute. 448 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: I love the illustrations. I thought it was so fun. 449 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: It was a really we wanted we wanted to book 450 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: collect that we found day. It was perfect, right. I 451 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: think it felt perfect for the holidays that we are 452 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: trying to put a lot of things together, and you know, 453 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: it's it's been pretty overwhelming with a lot of things happening. 454 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: We just finished the election. Um, but you know, having 455 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: something that was a good read, that was entertaining, that 456 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: was uplifting, that was humorous, It was perfect. And yeah, again, 457 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: like I said, I think it's a great little gift. 458 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: I think it would buy it. Oh yeah, great gift. 459 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean like again, the title alone, I think when 460 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: somebody opens it up, they'll chuckle, they'll be like, oh right. 461 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: Like the reviews are pretty much all five stars because 462 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: people don't know exactly what they want, they get and 463 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: they love it. Yeah, yeah, I really, I really really 464 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: loved it because it's so we've talked about it all 465 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: the time here, but it can get pretty dark when 466 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: you're a feminist podcast talking about things, and this didn't 467 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: shy away from the bad things, but it made it. 468 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: It made it very hopeful and uplifting, So it was nice. 469 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: It was a nice change of pace for us. It 470 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: was a good change of pace. So uh, not that 471 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: she's gonna ever hear, but if you do, Amy, Charlotte Keane, 472 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: thank you for such an amazing book. We are very 473 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: we're very glad we found it. 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