1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Oh, good time. Steve Tasker into the text time tex 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: time text more time, Good afternoon, and welcome to another 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: edition of One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health for 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: coming to you live from Orchard Park, New York. If 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: you're watching the video side on MSG, you see a 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: look at a totally empty new Era field with no 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: uh with no crass, no work, no working. Come on, 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: let's go, no rain, Let's get on. What a day 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be when that finally takes place. It'd be cool. 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: It'll be cool to watch it being built. Yeah, you know, 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: on our show, we keep you up to date on that. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Shore, everybody. I'm John Murphy, is Steve Tasker. 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Here until three it is OTA day number five with 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: Tomorrow is just a conditioning day. Friday is an OTA 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: three more OTAs next week and then the following week. 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: The veteran Mandatory not vetter into the entire team mandatory NAMP. 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: You'd be hard pressed to see a distinction between mandatory 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: mini camp and the voluntary session. So far, Steeve, it 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: looks like almost everyone's is here. We're not taking attendance, 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: but it looks like almost everyone just many here. Right, Yeah, 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: it's it's not our job to do that. I mean, 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: we don't go out there because we don't even watch 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: practice because it happens, literally, it starts like ten minutes 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: before we go on the air, so we don't get 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: a chance to see any of it. But there are 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: guys out there even that they're taking names and if nobody, 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: if somebody's not here, you hear about it because it's 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: such a big deal, right, especially if it's a star player. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: So on a daylight today, when they're outside practicing many camp. 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: I want to see the mini caamp too, when the 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: mandatory nickcamp because then they can step it up a notch. 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of us not watching practice, we were not there yesterday. 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: We watched the first ten minutes or so. But the 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: reports coming out of yesterday's Ota number four, we're kind 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: of over the top about Josh Allen. I was shocked 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: at how people were reacting to the way he threw 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: the ball yesterday. He usually throws it pretty well, and 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: the fact that you know the media, that was one 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: of two open OTAs yesterday. There's only been one other 40 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: one last week, and he threw it well, but it 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: became like breaking news locally, Hey, Josh Allens throwing strikes, 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allens throwing dimes. I was a little surprised by that. Ye, 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: and they were gaga over that. Yeah, that's what he does. Yeah, yeah, 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: you and I have I've seen it now. He throws it. 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: He throws a good that's why he's an NFL quarterback. Yeah, 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: in practice, especially that we were talking about it today. 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: The best I mean this, Seve and I all due 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: respect to the Hall of Famer Jim Kelly, the best 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: practice quarterback I've ever seen here was Rob Johnson in practice. 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. He threw great press passes. Now, I 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: know Josh Allen's gonna be better than Rob Johnson, but 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: I just I don't want to get too carried away 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: about a practice performance. No pads, no contact. Um, you 54 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: know it's it's it's practice. And it's not even a 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: botified practice. It's an Oka practice in the month of May. 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: You can't go over the top of it, right, I mean, 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: you pump the brakes since you know, and yeah, I 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: get it, And you've mentioned guys like, you know, Jim 59 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Kelly and the Hall of Famers and stuff, and I 60 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: watched him play and practice, and that there are times 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: when practice where the bowl never touched ground. You know, 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: it's just every throw was on the money. Guys were 63 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: catching it and run. Of course he was throwing the 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: Hall of Famers as well, So yeah, that goes. Speaking 65 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: of Hall of Famers, the announcement came today brought Buffalo 66 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: Broadcasting Hall of Fame announced its inductees and John Murphy, 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: You're going in the Buffalo Broadcasting Hall of Fame. Congratulations man, 68 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: thank you, that's awesome. Yeah, I've told you a long time. 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Over thirty years I've been here in town thirty two years. 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: We've known each other that almost the entire time, and 71 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: I've said, there's nobody who I would look through to 72 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: have more experience in this market and done a better 73 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: job on more venues and more platforms. Even when there 74 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: wasn't a million platforms in the city. You've been on 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: all of them, and you've done You've quitted yourself as 76 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: a Buffalo native outstandingly, and I'm glad you're finally getting noticed. 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Congratulations And in fact, it's not it's not just me. 78 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: We have a lot of other people that want to 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: say congratulations too. So we have somebody else who wants 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: to say a bunch of people who want to say 81 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: congratulations to John Murphy on being named as a Buffalo 82 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: Broadcast Hall of Famer. This is Pete Webber wanting to 83 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: congratulate you on your selection to the Buffalo Broadcasters Hall 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: of Fame. I remember it wasn't that long ago where 85 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: you talked about when you and I worked together on 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: Wbean Radio, on Buffalo Bill's magazine, and on Buffalo Bison baseball, 87 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: what it was like that you and I were almost 88 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: like an arranged marriage. Speaking of marriages, Claudie and I 89 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: want to congratulate you on this honor. But when you 90 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: and Mary Travers were married at the Kennisius College Chapel, 91 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: it was such a big thing taking you away from 92 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: the Bison broadcast for that weekend that the guy who 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: filled in for you was named Bill Polian. How about 94 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: that the general manager the Buffalo Bills took over for 95 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: John Murphy for a few baseball games on the weekend 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: birth That just tells you how important you are. All 97 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: the congratulations to you and being named to the Buffalo 98 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasters Hall of Fame, Johnny, it's keefe. You know you're 99 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: ol long time buddy, I'm so thrilled that you're going 100 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame planning. I know that you 101 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: were so envious after I went in that you must 102 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: have twisted somebody's arm. I'm only kidding, but I'm really happy. 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully I'll be there to see it all. And I'm 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: most excited that now I can go since you're going in, 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: and I'll be sitting at your table, and i won't 106 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: have to pay because you'll be picking up the tickets. Everyone. 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: Jeff Rusie from seven Eye Witness News here in Buffalo, Congratulations, Murph. 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: Such a well deserved honor, and I'll be a member 109 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Hall of Fame. Just an incredible honor 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: and so well deserved. I remember you took a shot 111 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: on me back in two thousand and three, bringing me 112 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: on as your weekend sports anchor, and over the last 113 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: sixteen years you've remained a mentor and a friend, teaching 114 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: me the importance of work ethic, showing me really how 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: to approach this business and also really how to balance 116 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: a family along the way. So congratulations on a well 117 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: deserved honor and for all your hard work. Thank you 118 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: for all you do for the community and for myself personally, 119 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: we'll see a super Hey, this is Mike Randall with 120 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: Channel seven. I worked with Murphy. I don't know, eighties, nineties, 121 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: something that, you know, it all runs together for me. 122 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: But when we work together. We were on this huge 123 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: desk and Murph was way over on this side, and 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: I think then there was Kathleen and Keith, and I 125 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: think Herb was in here somewhere too, and then I 126 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: was all the way over here. I like hardly every 127 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: who saw the guy, but I know I had one 128 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: conversation specifically about maybe he should learn how to do 129 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: the weather because everybody loves the weather guy and the 130 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: sports guys. You know. I don't know, it's kind of 131 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: like being a salesman or something. But anyway, Murph, congratulations. 132 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a great thing that you're being inducted 133 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: into the Buffalo Broadcasting Hall of Fame. I thought you're 134 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: already in there, buddy. I'm telling you, it's a great 135 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: thing to have you and congratulations. Hi. I'm Jackie Walker 136 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: and I'm post those. We just got word in the 137 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: news for our newsroom that John Murphy has been indicted, 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean inducted into the Buffalo Broadcasters Hall of Fame. 139 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: We love working with John for so many years here 140 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: at US four, But take you so long, so long. 141 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: We've heard of extra innings, We've heard of going into overtime. 142 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: Did you fumble? Did you drop the ball? Did you 143 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: stop short of the goal line? There? John, but no more. 144 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: We are so happy for you. Congratulations. I'm being inducted 145 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: into the Buffalo Broadcasters Hall of Fame, and your grandchild 146 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: will be extremely proud. Page's inevitable, and so I've just 147 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: thought it was time to hang up for play by 148 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: play vicro fall. I'm unfashionating my seat belt and I'm 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: turning it over to our your buddy, Mike Mlane. Twenty 150 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: four years together working in the booth. I wanted to 151 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: give it a little practice spotting in the offseason here 152 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: and make sure I'm ready to go. And I wanted 153 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: to wish you congratulations on your induction into the Buffalo 154 00:07:54,920 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasters Hall of Fame. Congratulations well deserved. Congratulations mur on 155 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: your induction into the Buffalo Broadcasters Hall of Fame, and 156 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: honor that is well deserved. This is Greg Harvey Wabanger, 157 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: your Game Day producer. It's been my privilege and honor 158 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: to have worked with you for over twenty seasons on 159 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bills Radio network, The John Murphy Show and 160 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: one Bills Live, and I look forward to many more 161 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: seasons ahead of whispering in your ear and and in 162 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: EQ cards. Hi, I'm Paul Peck, Voice of the UV Bulls, Murph. 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: Congratulations on your induction into the Buffalo Broadcasters Hall of Fame. 164 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure and an honor of mine who 165 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: have known you all the way back to the one 166 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: on one sports days on Elmwood Avenue, to be in 167 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: the booth with you and Van and to work in 168 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: with you at Channel four. You are one of those 169 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: guys and everybody who broadcast sports and Buffalo looks up 170 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: to and admires appreciate all the help over the years. Congratulations. 171 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: In Buffalo and Western New York, Murphy's law means getting 172 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: it right and doing it right every time. Congratulations, Hey Murph. 173 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Rick Jenner right here, I just want to tell you 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: that I've been waiting for you. I've been waiting for 175 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: you in this Hall of fame, and finally you alive 176 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: with Bellows on and it's nice to have another pensantly 177 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: plump broadcaster for sharing my space and just share the 178 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: space of a whole lot of other folks who are 179 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: awfully good at what they do. Thanks for all the memories. 180 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: There you go, John, Congratulations every everybody who is anybody 181 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: in Buffalo Broadcasting chiming in to wish you congratulations on 182 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: your induction Buffalo Broadcast. A little overwhelmed by all that 183 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: those are Those are all Hall of famers for the 184 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: most part day he and the crew that works with 185 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: you in the booth and has for decades, and it's 186 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: a it's a small fraternity that you're a part of. 187 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: You've been there for a long time. I'm a little 188 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: blown away. It's very nice. I'm a little blown away 189 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: by that. Thank you to all those who participated. I 190 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: assumed Jay put it together or did you know, Jake, 191 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: I don't do any work that would you know? That 192 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: would have been real work. Thank you that you know 193 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: I said this. They had a news compertation. Now it's 194 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: all the Hall of Famers. Let me tell you who's 195 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: going besides me. Sherry Margolis, native Buffalonian, works in Detroit, 196 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: worked at Channel seven. Jim Toler, the general manager of 197 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: Channel two here in Buffalo, Tony Farina, former investigative reporter 198 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: for a Channel seven and Channel two. Don Thomasulo good 199 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: buddy of mine, long time advertising guy at Intercom Radio, 200 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: and the late Larry Anderson program director at w w 201 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: GR Radio. Here's a cool thing. And I'm not We're 202 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: not doing this the whole show, by the way, right, 203 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: We got a show to do, but well we got 204 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: because getting because I got about two hours and fifteen 205 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: minutes worth of No, here's the cool the coolest thing 206 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: for me. All those people who you just saw, and 207 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: most of the people in the Hall of Fame I've 208 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: worked with. You know how fortunate I've been. I work 209 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: with Hall of famers. Yeah, I've just been lucky to 210 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: be around. I'm extremely lucky to kind of fall into 211 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: jobs where they were good people working who want to 212 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: do a good job. And many of them are in 213 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Many of the others are not, 214 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: but belonging in a Buffalo Broadcast Hall of Fame. So 215 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: the hallmark of my career I think has been good fortune, 216 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: luck and um, and that's pretty much it. But I'm 217 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: extremely honored and thank you to Jane for you guys 218 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: to put I feel the same way because I'm I'm 219 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: not in the Rundown meeting today. I know, why don't 220 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: we have these meetings if no one's gonna find Yeah, 221 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I would have killed that. You probably 222 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: probably would have tried um. But I'm with you. I mean, 223 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: I get a chance to work with you, who who 224 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: I've always thought of as a as a Hall of famer. 225 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a You're an iconic guy. I mean, 226 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: you've worked in all these different places in the Buffalo 227 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: market and you've yeah, let's face it, you've decided, you know. 228 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean that was a decision to you and your 229 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: wife made. You're gonna be a Buffalo guy. You're a 230 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: lifer and you told me that you were born and 231 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: raised in Lockport, and I'm really proud of it. And 232 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: I know what you mean. I'm still learning a lot 233 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: from you. I've been doing this just a little over 234 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: a year with you. I worked with Don Crickey, who's 235 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: also in the Buffalo Broadcasters Hall of Fame. When you 236 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: work with good people like you saw those people who 237 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: were congratulating you, it teaches you things about the business 238 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: that really help you in your way. And it's uh, 239 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: it's good to see it and uh, congratulations again, it's 240 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: crazy awesome. Yeah, I consider you one of the Hall 241 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: of famers. I work with you Dan, you know yeah, 242 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: except yeah, yeah, except that was like the Kansas Sports 243 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, the great Well Greater Buffalo Sports Sports 244 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Yeah that's cool. Northwestern you must be 245 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: in a hall of fame there or something. No, no, okay, yeah, 246 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: thank you though, thank you, Jay. I'm barely an alumnus, 247 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: but that yeah, it's congratulations John, It's absolutely well deserved. 248 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. See. Yeah, that's awesome. That announcement was made today. Uh, 249 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: as we got ready to come on and you were 250 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: were you that you were there right? Yeah? The news 251 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: conference at ten o'clock very now, Yeah, that's why I 252 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: was late today. I brought in a letter. You want 253 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: to see my note for being Hall of famers. I'm 254 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: pretty sure that if you're a Hall of Famer, you 255 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: don't now now that you are, you're gonna start showing 256 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: up blade all the time or is that now that works? Yeah? 257 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: Why now, I don't know where to go now with men? 258 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: Try um, it's as we started out to say, it's 259 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: ota day number five, five more to go. What else 260 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: do we have to announce today? There was something else? Uh, 261 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: hold on, I guess we had Twitter, the Twitter polls 262 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: coming up and all out of the OTAs, and we 263 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: had and we were trying to we're trying to come 264 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: up with the way this offseason is going and taking 265 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: a quick hiccup break for to acknowledge your accomplishments. And 266 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: but we're trying to pump the brakes a little bit 267 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: on the optimism. Well, you and I were both taken 268 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: aback by There was an open Ota practice yesterday. And 269 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: for people who don't know this, all these practices are closed. 270 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Nobody gets to watch him except Bill's personnel, and they 271 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: let for the first fifteen twenty minutes local media in 272 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: to watch. Right, and yesterday I think they can watch 273 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: a whole practice first fifteen or so. Right, they can 274 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: watch the whole thing, but they can only shoot a 275 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: little bit of shoot video of a little bit of it. 276 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: And all the media comes out of that practice yesterday, 277 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: just like giddy with how well Josh Allen threw the ball. 278 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, we didn't watch it. We were on 279 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: the air during the practice. We didn't get to see it. 280 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: But we've watched you know, we've watched practices during season 281 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: and all that, and Josh looks and throws it like 282 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback should look and he throws it like 283 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback should throw it. It goes where he's 284 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: aim at it, right, Yeah, And you know it's this 285 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: big surpriseazing thing about oh my guys, he's got a 286 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's got a scattershot arm. He's not very 287 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: accurate when he throws out. You know, you and I 288 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: have never bought into that for a lot of different things. 289 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: And now we saw some stuff come out in this 290 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: preseason about how Josh needs to make better decisions and 291 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: one of the reasons his completion percentage hasn't been what 292 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: it should be is because he chooses to make hard 293 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: throws a little too often, you know, not when he's 294 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: demanded of it. When he chooses to he tries to 295 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: throw the big the big shot a lot. He tries 296 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: to push the ball into a window down the field 297 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot more than taking the little dump off for 298 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: the crossing route with a little easy, so to speak, completion. 299 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: And so we've always seen him throw the ball and 300 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: throw it pretty well. But now they've started coming out 301 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: about May if he makes more better decisions and takes 302 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: easier completions like he did in Week seventeen last year, 303 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: his completion percentage will significantly rise. So you and I 304 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: hear these other guys come out there and they're starting 305 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: to watch practice. They say, wow, they're seeing what you 306 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: and I have seen for months now. And so you 307 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: and I decide, whoa, whoa? You know what's different? Yeah, 308 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: And here's one thing that's different is you know, that's 309 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: one practice that was opened this week, will be one 310 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: next week. And then I believe I think I'll I 311 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: don't know what the opening schedule will be media opening 312 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: for the three day mandatory mini camp in mid June. 313 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: But look, Joshka go out there today and stinking up 314 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: and nobody would know, you know what I mean. I 315 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: don't think he will, but that could happen. And maybe 316 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: it's happened in four the first five practices, or three 317 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: of the first five practices so far. So I just 318 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: realized I don't want to damp an enthusiasm. On the contrary, 319 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: I like the fact that people are excited about the bills. 320 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: I got people stopping me at the car wash yesterday 321 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: and today at the Hall of Fame announcement saying, Hey, 322 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna be good this year, aren't we. Yeah, I 323 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be pretty good. But it's a practice. 324 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: It's one practice. The fact that it was open to 325 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the media leads to the kind of over emphasized importance 326 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: about what went on yesterday. Did Josh row it well yesterday? 327 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: I bet he did. He's thrown it well a lot 328 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: when I've seen him. We're gonna get Chris Brown's the 329 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on this. He's joining us at the bottom of 330 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: the hour twelve thirty because Brownie. Look, we all work here, 331 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: but Brownie is sort of an impassioned observer radio and 332 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: get too worked up about what he sees. What are 333 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: you laughing about? Right? He gets worked up about stuff 334 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: that he didn't like, but he'll give us the straight 335 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: his take on how well Josh are throwing it yesterday? 336 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're throwing it well. But let's not get 337 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: carried away. So that took. That got us to our 338 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Twitter question today, and it is up on Twitter. You 339 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: can respond there. The phones are working and you can 340 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: give us a call if you'd like. Eight oh three 341 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: five fifty and toll three fifty two five fifty. I 342 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: guess they were fixed shortly after we went off the 343 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: air yesterday. Strange how that happened, and nobody knows how 344 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: they were fixed. Don't get me started, but what are 345 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: your expectations for the Bills quarterback Josh Allen? And this 346 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: is sophomore year. We're gonna talk a lot today. Steph 347 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: and I are about the second year for various quarterbacks 348 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL, good quarterbacks and others, and what their 349 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: second year looked like. And we want to get your take. 350 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: What are you looking for for Josh Allen from Josh 351 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Allen this year? Give us a call. We'd love to 352 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: discuss on the phones. It's been a couple of days 353 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: since we've taking a phone call. Eight h three five 354 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: fifty to three one eight eight eight five fifty two 355 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: five fifty. Your expectation for Josh Ellen in his second 356 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: season in the NFL. Send it a tweet. We might 357 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: read it on the air on the tweet sheet one 358 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: at one. Bills Live is our Twitter site, But let 359 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: us know what you think. Give us your response on 360 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 1: the air or send it in by Twitter. What are 361 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: your expectations for Josh Allen in his second year? You 362 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: are we gonna take you want to do some tweet 363 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: sheet stuff first or do you want to what you want? 364 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: Do you want to do our opinions first? I want 365 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: to hear yours. All right, here's here's my thing. I 366 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: we've got and we put some graphics up for the 367 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: people who are watching on MSG about some of the 368 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: other most notable second year quarterbacks, guys like Jared Goff 369 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: who took a huge leap obviously, Carson Wentz who took 370 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: a huge leap, Russell Wilson, who's one of those quarterbacks 371 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: who was a question, our third round draft pick who 372 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: came in and then what happened in his second season, 373 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: and of course Patrick Mahomes last year who really set 374 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: the standard. And there's no time and let me tell 375 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: you this too, Pat Mahomes is not thrown for five 376 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: thousand yards this year. Year he threw for just over 377 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: five thousand yards. Last year. He threw fifty touchdowns and 378 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: twelve interceptions. He just knocked it out of the park 379 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: last year as a sophomore in the NFL. That is 380 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: not going to happen again this year, not only with 381 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: the players around him being a little bit modified, and 382 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: guys who are who have left that fold. But also 383 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: just because that's the way the NFL is teams have 384 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: gotten to know him, and they're gonna come up with 385 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: an exorbitant or sorry, exotic plan if need be, to 386 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: take Pat Mahomes away and not let him throw for 387 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: five thousand yards against him. So Pat Mahomes is going 388 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: to take a step back. But let's face it, Murph. 389 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: When you're talking about sophomore seasons in the National Football League, 390 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: and it was Pat mahomes first season ever as a 391 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: starter where he played any significant time, he killed it. 392 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he killed it. That is the standard from 393 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: now on for a guy coming in in his second 394 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: year in the league to throw for fifty touchdowns and 395 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: twelve interceptions and throw for five thousand yards. Forget it. 396 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: He got to the AFC Championship Game and got him 397 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: to over good the Patriots to overtime in a year 398 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: when the Patriots won the Super Bowl. Man, he did it. 399 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: That's kind of the gold standard. The top of the spectrum, 400 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: and you go down there's guys like mitche Trubisky, who 401 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: was a sophomore quarterback last year. He you know, he 402 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: had twenty four touchdowns and twelve interceptions. He's probably the 403 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: one that's like he did good. His team was really good, 404 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: his defense played really well, but you know, he threw 405 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: for twelve interceptions. I think the one thing for these 406 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that I see that really changed in their second 407 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: year with Russell Wilson, Jared Golf, Carson Wentz, Mitch Trubisky, 408 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: and of course Pat Mahomes as well, their interceptions were low. 409 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: Their big mistake kind of went away a little bit. Now, 410 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: they certainly threw some interceptions, but that was the one 411 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: thing that didn't because you've got guys like Mitch Trubisky 412 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: only threw for thirty two hundred yards. I say only, 413 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: but thirty two hundred yards last season. Russell Wilson threw 414 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: for thirty three hundred and his second year. Then you 415 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: got Jared Goff, who remember that second year of him 416 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: after Jeff Fisher left that organization and Sean McVeigh came 417 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: in and all of a sudden, wow, he's great. Well, 418 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: he had twenty twenty eight tds, seven interceptions. That was 419 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: the thing. The interceptions went away. They didn't have the big, 420 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: huge mistake, but Jared Goff still only completed fifty two 421 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: percent of his completion of his passes in his sophomore 422 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: year twenty eight touchdowns, fifty two percent completions, thirty eight 423 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: hundred yards passing, and he went to the Pro Bowl. 424 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: You know, that was his year as a Rams quarterback 425 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: before this last year when they got to the NFC 426 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: Championship game. So it's not that big a jump to 427 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: start to get into the conversation of being a really 428 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: good quarterback in your second year, no matter what you 429 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: did in your first year. Here's a couple of things 430 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: and you folks should know. You know, the question is 431 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: what are your expectations for Josh Allen in his rookie year, 432 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: As you know, played in twelve games, started eleven, so 433 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: he didn't have extensive playing time, but he had enough 434 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: to get a pretty good idea of who he is. 435 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: Only completed fifty three percent of his passes, all right, 436 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: everybody knows that number. Ten touchdowns, twelve interceptions and this 437 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: and two thousand yards passing. That goes to your point 438 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: about the interceptions going down. If you know, if Josh 439 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: could get to a point where he was two to 440 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: one touchdowns of interception, as most of these good quarterbacks are, 441 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: that would be amazing. I mean, Mahomes is a ridiculous 442 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns, twelve interceptions, And it strikes me too looking 443 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: at that list of what five quarterbacks Mahomes, Trubisky, Wentz, Golf, 444 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: and Wilson in their second year. Five different situations here, right, 445 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: Mahomes sat for a year and then started last year, 446 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: and he started in a quarterback pass friendly offense. Right, 447 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: That's what the Andy Reid runs out there. Trubisky got 448 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: a new head coach in his second year in the 449 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: league who obviously got kind of doubled down on Trubisky 450 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 1: and helped make him better. Russell Wilson second year, much 451 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: better numbers, Jared Goff, As you mentioned, new head coach 452 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: in his second year. So what are the realistic and 453 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: what are your best case expectations for Josh Allen in 454 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: his second year? For Josh, if you're a Bills fan, 455 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: you'd take any one of those numbers, right, any one 456 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: of those numbers for in a second year. But for me, 457 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: you know not. And it's not just about numbers, but 458 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: I would like to see Josh get upwards of thirty 459 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: thirty two hundred, thirty five hundred passing yards two to 460 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: one touchdowns at interception, get that completion percentage up to 461 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: somewhere in the fifty seven fifty eight, maybe sixty percent 462 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: percent of completions. Most importantly, though, when you measure these quarterbacks, 463 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: are any of them, it's win Steve, it's how is 464 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: your team doing? And I think the Bills in Allen's 465 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: second year can live with whatever the numbers say, as 466 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: long as they're successful all on the field. They may 467 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: run it more than any of those five quarterbacks did 468 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: in their second year. They may have a better defense 469 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: than any of those five teams had this year, you know, 470 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: when Josh's second year. So whatever it takes to win 471 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: would be the thing that I'd be looking for when 472 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: it comes to Josh Allen. And really, if you're if 473 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: you're looking for one to do to compy copy, it's 474 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson. You know, he had thirty thirty three 475 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: hundred yards passing, had like a two to one or 476 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: three to one touchdowns, twenty eight was twenty six tds, 477 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: nine interceptions, sixty three percent completion percentage. He rushed for 478 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty nine five hundred forty yards. But 479 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: the bottom flyings right there. Russell Wilson, in his second 480 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: year in the league won the Super Bowl, you know, 481 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl thirty eight. That and I'm sorry, forty eight. 482 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: I think that's the x l v I II champion, right, 483 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl forty eight. He won the Super Bowl in 484 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: his second year. Russell Wilson did throw him for thirty 485 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty yards, twenty six touchdowns, nine interceptions, 486 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: and rushed for five hundred and thirty nine yards. He 487 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: was just a winner. That's what you want your guy 488 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: to do. Josh's got a lot. Josh's got the tools 489 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson does. Physically, he can run well, he 490 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: can sling it well. The question is that that X 491 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: factor you want him to have, is that winning mentality 492 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: where he makes a play in crucial times, you know. 493 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: And Josh Allen was five and six in the eleven 494 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: games he started last year. And remember he's one drop 495 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: pass away five in Miami again, you bet, I am. 496 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: And those kind of things haunt you, you know, but 497 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: they also paint a broad brush and start to make generalizations. Well, 498 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: they weren't a winning team with him at quarterback. Yeah, 499 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: they probably were. You're a drop pass away from going 500 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: six and five. With a quarterback with the worst offensive 501 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: line in football, zero wide receivers who were proven in 502 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: the league, and no running game, and a first year 503 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: quarterback who had, you know, started eleven games and was 504 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: injured for four games in the middle of it. Who 505 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: was you know, they were a mess at times. Who 506 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: was just trying to keep his head above water? You were, 507 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: And this is a team that you know was playing 508 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: pretty darn well and went playing winning football more often 509 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: than not when he was starting quarterback when he didn't 510 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: know anything, right, you think they're gonna take a step forward. 511 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: I do, I do, But he's got a It's gonna 512 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: a lot of it's gonna come down to Josh Allen 513 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: and his ability to make better decisions. Not completing more passes, 514 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: not running the ball less, now just making better decision. 515 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: You look at that list of quarterbacks who in their 516 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: sophomore year did things. Russell Wilson jumps out he won 517 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and I'm not saying Josh Allen's going 518 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: to do that, but that's the stat that's the bar. 519 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Mahomes statistically had the great year, Russell Wilson had the 520 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: great year winning. You want to be in there, you 521 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: want to be in that conversation as a sophomore quarterback 522 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: in this league, particularly when you walk in to your 523 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: training camp and your OTAs as the guy he's going 524 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: to take all the reps. The offense is going to 525 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: be built around him. The other quarterbacks in the room 526 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: are going to be focused on helping him prepare. The 527 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: offense is going to be tailored around his abilities. It's 528 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: going to be getting him some weapons. It's gonna be 529 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: working Tyler Croft and Dawson Knox and Cole Beasley and 530 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: John Brown and all of those guys into his mix 531 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: of his skill set. And that's you know, you gotta 532 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: the conversation starts with those quarterbacks that we've had on 533 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: the screen for the last couple of minutes, and Russell Wilson, 534 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Patrick Mahomes, Mitch Trubisky, all those 535 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: guys who have taken a step forward and who for 536 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: the most part gripped the franchise quarterback moniker and men. 537 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: Those teams are not going anywhere about, you know, with 538 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: those five guys, and none of those teams are making 539 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: any changes. What kind of affectations do you have for 540 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen in his second year. This all came about 541 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: because of all of the reporting about his practice day yesterday. Look, 542 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: it's about more than a one day practice in ot as. 543 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: You know that everybody knows that, Yes, there are positive signs, 544 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: Yes he usually throws a ball pretty well. But what 545 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: do you think? What are your expectations for Josh Allen. 546 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with Chris Brown about that when he 547 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: joined us in a minute or two. But we'd love 548 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: to take your phone calls on it as well. And 549 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: we can't take phone calls on it. Eighth three five 550 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty 551 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: two five fifty. Send it a tweet. We might read 552 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: it on the tweet sheet at One Bill's Life. Come 553 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: on back and we'll start doing some of that Chris Brown. 554 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: When we return. It's One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. 555 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One Bills Live 556 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Casker here 557 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: until three o'clock today, the Bills involved in their organized 558 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: team activity number five. Did we get to the rest 559 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: of the show, Steve, We didn't say. We got Chris 560 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: Brown standingbody to join us here in a moment. Pete 561 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Priscoe from CBS Sports dot Com coming up at one 562 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: and Trent Murphy's gonna join us after practice. Talk with him. 563 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: He said, kind of a quiet return to lean lineup 564 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: after kind of an injury played first year in Buffalo. Yeah, 565 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: we struggle a little bit with that last year, staying 566 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: on the field in one piece and two. You know, 567 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: when he was out there, I don't think he felt 568 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I'm to ask him about that, because 569 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: for me, that was one of the worst parts about playing. Sometimes. Yeah, 570 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: you could go, but how you know, how good did 571 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: you feel when you were out there? Could you really 572 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: concentrate on what you're doing. I'm gonna ask him about 573 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: that when he comes on. It'll be nice to see 574 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: him after practice. Yep, after practice. We got Chris Brown 575 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: in studio with us right now. Bills Inside from Buffalo 576 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. At practice yesterday, he follows the rules 577 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: just like the rest of the media. There are open 578 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: OTAs and closed OTAs. Today they're in the middle of 579 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: a closed ota. But you were there for the entire 580 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: practice yesterday, Chris. We were not. We're blown away by 581 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: Josh Allen because a lot of people seem to be 582 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, he had a good day. I actually thought 583 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: his day last week for the open period was even 584 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: sharper than yesterday, really, particularly the two minutes drill. I 585 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: mean he was locked in in the two minutes drill 586 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: back in week one. Last week, I was of the 587 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: opinion he was even sharper in that practice than he 588 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: was in the practice we saw yesterday. That's not to 589 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: say he didn't perform well yesterday. He did, but I 590 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: thought he was even better with that two minutes. When 591 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: he's in two minutes drill, he's pretty good. I think 592 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: he just likes the let's go and let's make plays 593 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: kind of approach where I think when they're you know, 594 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: kind of in more of a regular pace, you know, 595 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say he struggles. I 596 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: just think there's a comfort level with that hurry up 597 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: that works with him. I don't know if you're interesting 598 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: to see where things go with that, because you know 599 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: that the Patriots have a history of changing tempo on 600 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: teams offensively to get them in a bad personnel grouping 601 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: or to slow it down when they're up on the scoreboard. 602 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: And Dable comes from that school, So you wonder what 603 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: steps he might take this year if he's confident that 604 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: Josh can handle it. And he's already taking those kinds 605 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: of steps. Dable is because he even said yesterday in 606 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: the press conference there have been times already here in 607 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: these first handful of OTA practices where he said, we've 608 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: gone no huddle and I've said, Josh, you call it. 609 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: So you're hands in a second year quarterback an awful 610 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: lot and there don't seem to be too many hiccups 611 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: from what Dabele is saying. So it can be interesting 612 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: to see where this offense goes and morphs and changes 613 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: and develops, because it's largely going to be based on 614 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: Josh's development, and right now he's looking pretty good. What 615 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: do you think got people's attention yesterday with the way 616 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: Josh just throwing the ball? Uh? I mean it was 617 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: your one spectacular throw or something. No, I mean, I 618 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: don't think there was anything different that we didn't see 619 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: last week. Maybe I don't know, maybe they missed it 620 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: last week and just saw this week. I don't know, 621 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: But I mean he threaded the needle a couple of 622 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: times into some very tight windows, and you know, that 623 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: is always impressive when you can see that live when 624 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: there's you know, two defenders closing and he still wedges 625 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: a ball in there to Dawson Knox, you know. Or 626 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: and I think the other thing that he showed yesterday 627 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: was the diversity of throws. He made a nice over 628 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: the shoulder touch past is a Jones, you know, dropped 629 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: it right over his shoulder, you know, not everything was 630 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: a ninety mile per hour laser. So there's some finesse 631 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: elements to his game that maybe some people didn't readily 632 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: recognize this offseason here in OTA's and it's an indication 633 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: that he's kind of diversified what the situation calls for 634 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: and apply the type of throw necessary to make that 635 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: play effect. You've probably seen Josh Adam play practice as 636 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: much as anybody that's not on the team or on 637 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: the step right, and we were talking just before the 638 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: break that Murph and I have seen him throw the 639 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: ball a lot too, not as much as you, but 640 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: it's our when you hear people saying, wow, we made 641 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: this through, it doesn't seem out of character for us 642 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: to have him do that. What's your you know, what's 643 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: your opinion about that is this above and beyond what 644 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: we've seen him do before or is this more of 645 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: the same. I just think it's more consistent. It's happening 646 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: more often. You know, last year at this time he's 647 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: running with the threes. And part of who you play 648 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: with counts in your effectiveness too. Let's let's be honest, 649 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, and now he's the guy. He knows he's 650 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: the guy. His confidence is off the charts. He knows 651 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: the system like the back of his hand, and he 652 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: knows a lot of the personnel that he's working with, 653 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: chiefly the ones he's throwing too. So you roll all 654 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: that together, and then you add in the hard work 655 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: that Josh himself has put in this offseason on his footwork, 656 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: on his ball location, and in determining the right kind 657 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: of throw for the right kind of situation. You know 658 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: you're going to see more effective play more of the time. 659 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: And that's what you're witnessing now. There's only a hiccup 660 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: or two a practice now, where last year at this 661 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: time there were probably half a dozen to ten hiccups, 662 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: just whether it's bad feat so the ball's errant, overthrowing 663 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: a target, reading a play wrong, running out of the 664 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: pocket early. These were all things he was working through 665 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: as a rookie last year. You don't see any of 666 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: those now, or if you do, they're not nearly with 667 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: the quantity that they were last year. Chris Brown Bills 668 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 1: Inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com and studio with us. Well, 669 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: let me get you to what we've got for a 670 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: tribute question today, Brownie, what are your expectations for Josh 671 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: Ellen in his second season? And a lot of what 672 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about, I think, and a lot of people's 673 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: perceptions of what they saw yesterday during the workout and 674 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: whatever good throws they saw. What you've seen the last 675 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: couple of open OTAs based on what your expectation level is, right, 676 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: So first of all, have your expectations change from what 677 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: you've seen the two OTAs? Number one, number two? What 678 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: are your expectations? What do you think's realistic for Josh 679 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: Allen in his second year. I guess what I was 680 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: saying initially to myself was I hope he can take 681 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: the next step, improve his short to intermediate passing game, 682 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: improve his ball location so as completion percentage can be 683 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: up closer to fifty eight to sixty percent instead of 684 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: fifty two percent. Those were my hopes for him. Now, 685 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: after seeing him here in OTAs and watching the way 686 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: he's operated, I'm confident he can do those things. So 687 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: I've gone from hoping to being pretty convinced that, you know, 688 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: provided the offense stays healthy and the right people are 689 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: in place, that he can take the next step. It's 690 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: not a hope anymore. It's kind of a more of 691 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: a win than an if. We've been talking about some 692 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: of the other quarterbacks that are in the league now 693 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: in current day that and this is their sophomore seasons, 694 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: and we're looking at it right now. Patrick Mahomes, Turbisky, 695 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Russell Wilson. You go down that list, 696 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: and it's a little bit of a roller coaster. You know, 697 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: you've got Patrick Mahomes, which has got to be the 698 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: gold standard, although you look at the other end of 699 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: this graphic that we're looking at, Russell Wilson won the 700 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with much less shiny, polished statistics. Now, obviously 701 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: it was the Seattle Seahawks team and they had one 702 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: of the all time great defenses, particularly in the Super 703 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: Bowl they played in, and Patrick Mahomes was carrying the 704 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: entire team on that offense, so he had more opportunities. 705 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: He had the head coach behind him as the offensive 706 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: play caller. Thrown for five thousand yards. Russell Wilson didn't 707 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: have to do that. He threw for less than thirty 708 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: four hundred yards and all of that. So some you know, 709 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: those are the spectrums. One you got a guy winning 710 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The other guy you know, it's the MVP. 711 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I know which one. Everybody wants. You want 712 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: the guy that won the Super Bowl, right, yea, even 713 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: though it you know, think about it, think about it, 714 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a rage. It's about what you want 715 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: your quarterback and your team to look like. But yeah, 716 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean there's the there's the standard. I think he 717 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: could be somewhere between Golf and Wilson. That's where I 718 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 1: think he could be UM. And part of the reason 719 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: that I say that is because one the completion percentage, 720 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: and it's very hard to bump that up ten percent. 721 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to stay realistic and not get carried away. 722 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if he can be somewhere between fifty eight 723 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: and sixty, that's a good jump from last year when 724 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: he was fifty two point four, so I think that's attainable, um, 725 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, so that that'll fit him somewhere in between 726 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: Golf and Wilson. That'll change during the season as well. 727 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: I mean, he may start out burying the fifty five percent, 728 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, but he may evolve into you know, so 729 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: in the season it will come out of that. The 730 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: touchdown pass thing, I think is still something that's a 731 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: wait and see only because we have to see where 732 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: this offense goes in light of the changes made at 733 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: running back, offensive line, and wide receiver. We don't know 734 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: does Dable swing more heavily to the passing game because 735 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: he has Josh and a lot more weapons, or does 736 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: he swing back to the run game because the line 737 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: is improved to the degree where he can run it 738 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: whenever he darned well pleases to support his quarterback and 739 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: so and that could very well change. That could very 740 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: well change week to week based on the opponent too. 741 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: So I think until we have a better handle on 742 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: what the identity of this offense is going to be. 743 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: With an improved Josh Allen, an improved offensive line upgrades 744 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: and talented wide receiver and at running back, you know, 745 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to really say where that touchdown to interception 746 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: figure is going to be. I got one more Josh 747 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: Allen question for you, Christy. Stay to the top of 748 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: the hour, by the way today. Yeah, okay, because because 749 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: we've got more questions come up after this, after this 750 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: segment um. The one thing it's kind of reflected on 751 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: the comparison chart the second year, uh second years of 752 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: those great quarterbacks. Look, you got five rushing yards for 753 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in his second year, twenty one for Mitch Drubisky, 754 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns for a Trubisky. Josh had eight hundred 755 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: yards rushing and what eight touchdowns rushing last year? How 756 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: much of that is a component of his game moving 757 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: forward in particular this year. Do the Bills kind of 758 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: want to get away from that totally or do you 759 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: think that'll be part of part of what I don't 760 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: think they'll get away from it totally. I think it 761 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: will exist in some capacity, but I do not think 762 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: it will exist with nearly the frequency that we saw 763 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: last year. And that's more about self preservation than anything else. 764 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: So I think that what you have is a quarterback 765 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: who's certainly capable if you need to turn to that 766 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: page in a pinch, or you feel that that's a 767 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: higher percentage play than maybe what you thought going into 768 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: the game, and you need a play at a specific time, 769 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: you can turn to him and his legs to do that. 770 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: But I think on the whole, they want this guy 771 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: to be a pocket quarterback. If he has to buy 772 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: some time and then throw by rolling out of the pocket, 773 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: that's fine. But taking off, tucking and running, I think 774 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: it's something he'd like to do or the coaches would 775 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: like him to do less of, uh and hopefully with 776 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: a better running game he won't have to. I mean, 777 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: in essence, he was the running game for this team, 778 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: and especially in the second half of the season. I 779 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: mean he's the leading rusher, So I think they want 780 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: to get away from that, and they want their running 781 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: backs doing more of that type of work. Can you 782 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: do it? When Keiko's on the field. I like watching 783 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: him twist and turn them into a spinning time turn. Yeah. 784 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: I think one of the things too, is that's always 785 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: a part of his game because you know he can 786 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: do it. I don't think you're gonna have them calling 787 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: quarterback draws unless it's a red zone kind of thing 788 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: where they empty it out. I don't think he's gonna 789 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have any cold runs. I think you're gonna say, Josh, listen, 790 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: you got a one yard you know it's it's a 791 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: third and one. We're gonna call this pass play. It's 792 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be moving pocket if you see it. 793 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: Just dive for the first down or slide for the 794 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: first down. Make sure you get it kind of thing. Uh. Situationally, 795 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: they'll call it and say listen, be alert. If they're 796 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: gonna run this, they're gonna open it up like the 797 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: Red Sea. Just walk up through the middle of slide 798 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: for the first down, to stay on the field. Those 799 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: kind of I don't think they're ever. I think it's 800 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: crazy to make call quarterback runs in this league. Um. 801 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills are going to have a 802 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: big page of that in their playbook. Certainly it's there. 803 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: I want it, come on. You don't need to, yeah, 804 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: but you can. Yeah. But I think it's more effective 805 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: as a weapon when it's off the page, not on 806 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: the page, not not when it's designed scripted. Yeah, when 807 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: he when he sees it, and he'll get better at it. Um. 808 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: And he's We've seen him get better at most of 809 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: the things he does as a quarterback. So I think 810 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be very rare that they 811 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: call a quarterback run uh in this because they didn't 812 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: do it last year and he ran for eight hundred yards. Right. 813 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: The only thing is I could see them spreading the 814 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: field more in the red zone with the receiving weapons 815 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: that they have. And I remember the Tennessee Titans would 816 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: do this with Vince Young when he was actually playing 817 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: well before his career went south. They would spread it 818 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: five wide in the red zone. It like the ten 819 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: yard line, and you got five guy's going out in 820 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: the pattern. You only got six defenders. You got five linemen, 821 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's one on one 822 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: with him in a safety or a linebacker, he's gonna win. 823 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to see it two times a game, at 824 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: least maybe three. He's a big, strong sink Brownie's right, 825 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: I think. And it doesn't have to be in the 826 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: red zone. But I wouldn't do it on the goal line. 827 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd do it on like the twenty going 828 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: in and I'm done. I were splitting hairs because then 829 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: they the guys who were in the back of the 830 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: end zone couldn't run up and make a play on 831 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: him and get a hit on him. You need to 832 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: do it out and where there's some space where he 833 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 1: can still get the objective, which is the first down 834 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: or maybe the touchdown, and still have space to dodge, 835 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: like the run he made at the end in the 836 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: Miami game this last year where he ran at seventeen 837 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: yards off the end and got in and the guy 838 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: just barely barely touched him as he crossed the goal. 839 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: That kind of play you can see, but you don't 840 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: want to. You know, you don't want this guy coming 841 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: in there and taking on two defenders at the goal 842 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: line because they're gonna they're gonna bear up, you know, 843 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: and that's where you lose him. That's what Carson Wentz 844 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: lost his MVP season trying to dive into the end 845 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: zone between two guys, So you know that's what you're risking, 846 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: and you know, good grief. I mean, you don't want 847 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: that ever. I mean, you got a quarterback who's got 848 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: an MVP season going and the Eagles, he tries to 849 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: dive into the end zone, they lose him. So you know, 850 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, you know, to the rescue risk reward. Right, Hey, 851 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: we got more were to talk about besides Josh Allen 852 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: will do that when we return. Chris Brown states with us. 853 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: One more segment with Chris. It's One Goes Live from 854 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: One Goes Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, One Guy 855 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: Murphy and he Tansker. Chris Brown joins us for a 856 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: couple of more minutes. You were talking about his observations 857 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: from OTAs. The Bills have had four OTA sessions. They've 858 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: got number five underway right now. We talked a lot 859 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: of We talked to enough about Josh Chris for now. 860 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: It's you noted in your post that's up on Full 861 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: of Bills dot Com. It was a good day for 862 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: for several rookies yesterday, with a lot of playing time 863 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: for several rookies. Well yeah, and it's due mainly to 864 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: the injury situation that some of the positions are dealing with. 865 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: I mean, Frank Gore's sideline, so too is t J 866 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeldon with a groin injury. So Devin Singletary, he's getting 867 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: a ton of first team reps because they don't give 868 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: Shady a lot of work this time of year. So 869 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: he's running with the first team a good deal. Doesn't 870 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: look like he's out of place. I'll say that. Now. 871 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: That's also being mindful of the fact that the pads 872 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: aren't on and you can't really fit up the run 873 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: the way you would when the pads are on and 874 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: you're playing thud. Um. You know, guys are kind of 875 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: going through the motions up on the line to provide 876 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: the holes that he has to read. Um. But yeah, 877 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't look out of place. And uh, 878 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, Dawson Knox and Tommy Sweeney are getting more 879 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: reps than they probably ever could have hoped for, you know, 880 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: with Tyler Croft out and now Jason Krum out with 881 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: the hamstring injury. So those guys are getting a ton 882 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: of reps, Knox chiefly. Yeah. And I was just going 883 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: to say when when Brian Dable said yesterday that the 884 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: springtime injuries give them a chance to look at other players. 885 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: Those are the two that I thought of, those two 886 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: tight ends. Yeah, and and Knox got the lion's share 887 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: of the first team reps yesterday. And that kid can run, 888 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: He can run. How good can he be? Um? I think, Well, 889 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: it's hard, it's hard. To say wait, wait, wait, wait 890 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: till the pads. Let's wait till the pads get on. 891 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: But we can stand, we can put this stamp on him. 892 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: He's an athlete. He can really run like he doesn't 893 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: look like he's moving fast, and he's covering ground. Um, 894 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: but for a six for a six four guy to 895 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: move the way he moved, I think he ran a 896 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: four or five one at the at the combine, I 897 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: mean he can move um. And I think he's you know, 898 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: blessed with having the experience of being a former quarterback. 899 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: So he's absorbing this system really quick, uh, and is 900 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: not having busts out there in turn ms of assignments. 901 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: There's only just you know, in the two practices we've seen, 902 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: there's just been a couple of times where he'll fight 903 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit with his hands. Not always 904 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, super secure. But he had a good day yesterday. 905 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: He just had one go through his hands. Unfortunately wound 906 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: up being an interception because Poter was standing right behind him, 907 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: one right into his arms. I love it when Josh 908 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: Allen cites Dawson Knox as a guy who seems to 909 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: pick up quickly what's going on out there. Right. A 910 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: lot of times. A couple of times, Yeah, a lot 911 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: of times you have a rookie in the huddle and 912 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: they're like, wait, can you repeat that? What was that? 913 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 1: What was that play? What am I doing? And there's 914 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: none of that with him. He knows, he knows his 915 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: p's and q's, and he's ready and this is an 916 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: opportunity for him, and he has stepped up. I talked 917 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: to Zay Jones after practice yesterday and he said, yeah, 918 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: we're dealing with some injuries here in the spring, but 919 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 1: some young guys have stepped up, and he mentioned Dawson 920 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: Knox specifically. So that's two or three players who have 921 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: been here a year or two who have singled out 922 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: Knox and his play. So all good things, and you know, 923 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes. But the pads have to 924 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: come on, you know, and we'll see if that play continue. 925 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 1: You make note in your article about Cody Ford running 926 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: with the first team at right tackle right last week 927 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: he was with the twos. He was with the twos 928 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: on the right side. They rotated him up this week 929 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: flip Tye and Secky to left tackle with the second 930 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: group behind Dion Dawkins. You know, and again it's not 931 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: true line play, but the feet you can tell that 932 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: he has the feet to play the position. I just 933 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: remember watching his college film and for a man his size, 934 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: the way he's able to get to the second level 935 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: get there prevent a linebacker from scraping over the top, 936 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, getting out in front, you know, to keep 937 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: the side of the field sealed where the running play 938 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: is going to is good. And again here's another example 939 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: of a guy who did not look out of place 940 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: with the ones. We'll obviously know more about where it 941 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: goes when the pads go on, because you know, we 942 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: heard Dable yesterday saying, you know, the lineman especially, We're 943 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: not going to worry about who are best five are 944 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: until we put the pads on and watch them for 945 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: a week or two at camp. And the thing I 946 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: was going to ask you about, there's no question though 947 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: Mitch Morse's injury really set them back in their ability 948 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: to sort that out. I mean, now they've got all 949 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: these moving parts, all these guys they want to look at, 950 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: and certainly they feel like they've got to give all. 951 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: They signed them to contracts. They're not just out there 952 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: to be bodies, even if their expectations are lower for 953 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: some of these guys. They're going to give them all 954 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: a chance to do what they can do. They're all 955 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: going to get a chance to make the team, and 956 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: that means a ton of reps with different combinations. And 957 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: the one thing that was, you know, we were kind 958 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: of taken for granted, is Mitch Morse's presence in the center. Well, 959 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: him not being there changes everything. It does. I actually 960 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: asked Dabel about that yesterday. What is he doing to 961 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: build the chemistry with Josh when he can't take the 962 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,479 Speaker 1: physical reps? And there are times where Morsel just stand 963 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: out there and you know, snap the ball to Josh 964 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: in a non competitive setting, just off to the side, 965 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 1: and they'll just work on snap count, cadence, those kinds 966 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: of things. So Morrise just gets used to hearing the voice, 967 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, and matching that up with the snap count. Um, 968 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 1: there's other stuff in the film room that they're doing 969 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: together to kind of walk through line calls and reads 970 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: and making adjustments at the line of scrimmage. And you know, 971 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: hopefully early in training camp Morris is out there. If 972 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: not sooner, who knows. We haven't been given a timetable 973 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: on that. But those core muscle surgeries usually take a 974 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 1: few months. Conditioning day tomorrow and an OTA on Friday, 975 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: and then three morrowts next week? Right, it might is 976 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 1: it four next week or just three? It's four this week? 977 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: Look three next week. I think it's one way or 978 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: the other. I may have it backwards, um, but yeah, 979 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: and then that'll be it. Um. And today tomorrow is 980 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: not a conditioning day. It's going to be a full 981 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: bill practice. I'm not I'm not sure. I gotta try 982 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 1: to make Look, I got my weeks mixed up. Perhaps 983 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: day kind of a day by day, guys, Wednesday, ninth, ninth, 984 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: I'm looking at June. That doesn't help. OTA five is 985 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: today tomorrow Phase three workout and then a number six 986 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: is furday and then next week two fo yeah, four 987 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: next week? That's okay? And what's coming up on the 988 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: website before we let you go? So we have a 989 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: feature coming up now on Josh just kind of mapping 990 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: out why some of the year two, some of the 991 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: year the OTA Hall of Fame, some of the year 992 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: two growth we were hoping for is already revealing itself, 993 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: and not just on the field. So you know, we 994 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: kind of pulled some of his teammates coach table yesterday 995 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: Coach McDermott and kind of have them way in on 996 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: what they've seen so far from him and not just 997 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: as we said on the field, also you know around 998 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: the building, in the locker room with other players on 999 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, those kinds of things. Um, 1000 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: he's checking a lot of boxes right now. Great, thanks Chris. 1001 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: We'll look for that, guys. Chris, Chris Brown Bills inside 1002 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bills dot Com. We're gonna take a break 1003 00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: when we come back. Pete Prisco is gonna join it 1004 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: from CBS Sports dot Com. He's got thoughts on Josh 1005 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: Allen and other NFL issues, And yes, we'll get back 1006 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: to our Twitter poll and your thoughts on our question 1007 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen Oliver coming up. One Bill's Live presented 1008 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: by Kalaida Health from One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo 1009 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network. Sports up Day update 1010 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. The Buffalo Bills in OTA number 1011 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: five right now. They've got five left. After this, they'll 1012 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: be tomorrow just a conditioning day and then back in 1013 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: organized team activity session on Friday. Four OTAs next week 1014 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: and after that It is the mandatory minicamp in the 1015 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: middle of June around the NFL Pro Bowl. Cornerback Chris 1016 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: Harris Jr. Who told the Broncos earlier the last season 1017 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: he wanted to be traded if he didn't get a 1018 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: new deal, gotta raised in an adjusted one year contract 1019 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: he's agreed to with the team. The Broncos announced the 1020 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,280 Speaker 1: deal last night. Harris will get twelve million dollars this season, 1021 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 1: after being scheduled to get close to nine million dollars. 1022 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: The NFL Players Association is telling its players to save up. 1023 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: The Morris Smith sent a letter Tuesday to all certified 1024 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: NFL player agents asking them to encourage their players to 1025 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: save money in the event of a work stoppage. In 1026 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 1: two twenty one Stanley Cup Finals tonight, it is Game 1027 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: two in Boston. The Bruins up one game to none. 1028 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: They host the Saint Louis Blues tonight in Game two 1029 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: eight pm faceoff in Boston. Dave Tippott has been hired 1030 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: as the sixteenth head coach of the Edmonton Oilers. He 1031 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: is the third head coach of Connor McDavid's five year 1032 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: career so far, tip at fifty seven years old, previously 1033 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: coached the Dallas Stars from two thousand and two through 1034 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine and the Arizona Coyotes for a 1035 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: couple of years. His team made the playoffs in eight 1036 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: of the nine seasons in which he coached in Dallas 1037 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: and Arizona. And the NBA Finals start tomorrow night Game 1038 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: one in Toronto. The Toronto Raptors and the Golden State Warriors. 1039 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: Nine o'clock to tip off tomorrow night Game one of 1040 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. That's the update from One Wheel Drive, 1041 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio here 1042 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: until three. Hope to get Trent Murphy in here after 1043 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: today's Ota session. Bill's defensive end Trent Murphy and we'll 1044 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about what's going on out there. 1045 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: Talking with us right now is senior NFL columnists for 1046 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: CBS Sports dot com, the host of the Pick six podcast. 1047 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: He's covering the NFL for more than thirty years. Happy 1048 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: to have Pete Prisco on the line with us. I Pete, 1049 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker up here in Buffalo. Thank 1050 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: you for joining us today. What's up, guys, How are 1051 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: you well? We talked a lot about We're talking a 1052 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: lot here today about Josh Allen. He had apparently a 1053 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: tremendous ota yesterday that's got people excited. But beyond that, 1054 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: you've got Josh Allen listed as one of your players 1055 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: in the NFL who is ready to take the next step. 1056 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: What do you see there, Peton, What do you expect 1057 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: from Josh Allen? Well? I like the coming out, probably 1058 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: more so than a lot of people did. And people 1059 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: always pointed to his completion percentage at Wyoming and it 1060 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: wasn't good and there were mechanical laws, but he's played 1061 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: with I always joke around he played with bartenders and bouncers. 1062 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's who we played with when he was 1063 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: at Wyoming. A lot of those castes were dropped at 1064 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: the Buffalo, and you guys know they led the league 1065 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: in drops last year. I mean, the receivers didn't exactly 1066 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: help him out and so and the offensive line was bad. 1067 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: But I think he showed a lot by standing in 1068 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: there taking the shots, and he you know, he would 1069 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: get outside and run. He was much more athletics than 1070 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people saw it, including myself, And I 1071 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: think now that they've built it around them, and that's 1072 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 1: one thing when I talked to Sean McDermott at as 1073 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: the Comboy, he says, look, we're gonna spend the off 1074 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 1: season building this thing around their quarterbacks. And they did. 1075 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: They get a slot receiver in Cole Beasley, which is 1076 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: always great to have for a young quarterback. They get 1077 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: a speed guy and John Brown. I think the offensive 1078 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: line upgrades are going to be really helpful to him 1079 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: and so and not by the way. I do like 1080 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: his tight ends office box. I think he's end up 1081 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: being a heck of a players for him down the road. 1082 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: And when you look at this makeup, they're building this 1083 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: thing so the quarterback can take the next step, and 1084 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: I think that's the right way to do it. What's 1085 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: that next step gonna look like this year? Yeah? Yeah, 1086 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: I think he can get to twenties seven touchdown passes, 1087 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven touchdown passes and and 1088 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe ten eleven, twelve interceptions, and then next 1089 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: year it's probably thirty one, thirty two and nine. I 1090 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: mean that that's the kind of progression, the type of 1091 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: ability he had. I think the kid has star potential, 1092 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: I really do. And you know, Baker Mayfield was fantastic 1093 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: last year, and I think he's gonna be very good. 1094 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: I think Sam Sam Darnold struggled the same week freetway 1095 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen did because they didn't have any players, 1096 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: and so did Josh Rosen. But uh, you know, Mayfield 1097 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: stepped into the best situation. This kid's situation was not good, 1098 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: and he handled it. And I think from all the 1099 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: everything you want to see from a quarterback, you want 1100 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: to see how they handle it, he handled it very 1101 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 1: very well. So I think their star potential. And Pete 1102 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: here when you say, you know, you thought higher of 1103 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen than many people did a year ago when 1104 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: he came out in the draft. Do you think because 1105 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: I think this, that there's kind of a hangover of 1106 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: doubt about Josh Allen, you know, and I think many people, 1107 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, he was a kind of a polarizing figure 1108 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 1: among the quarterback class of two eighteen, and many people 1109 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: aren't yet ready to say, Okay, this guy will be 1110 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: all right. Do you think that there's anything to that? Yes, absolutely, 1111 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, he's the most ripped apart quarterback 1112 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: of anybody you know, at least from that draft class. 1113 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: On Twitter, it's like everybody takes great delight in finding 1114 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 1: his flaws and finding his bad throws, and let's be honest, 1115 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 1: let me make some bad throws. They look awful, but 1116 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: they pick him apart and they shred him, and I 1117 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: don't know why that is. And now everybody banged, like 1118 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: you said, they bang that drum that he can't play 1119 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: is not very good. And then I think he's surprised 1120 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people last year, and now there's ticket 1121 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: to it. So for me, I think there is something 1122 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: to that. The kid's a good kid. He's a tough kid, 1123 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,760 Speaker 1: he's a hard worker, and I don't understand the disdain 1124 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: and the dislike for him at all. One of the 1125 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: things about his progression has to do with where he 1126 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: plays in Buffalo. They're the AFC East, you've said, and 1127 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 1: a lot of what happens in the FC East still 1128 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: and always will kind of revolve around what happens in 1129 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: New England. You think that there may be a year 1130 00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: away from wrestling that AFC East Crown away from New England. 1131 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, what do you think is 1132 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: going to happen in New England this year? There's some 1133 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: people who already saw cracks in Tom Brady's abilities at 1134 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: forty one forty two, is that going to progress further 1135 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,760 Speaker 1: in New England and make them more vulnerable? Then perhaps 1136 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,320 Speaker 1: people thought about this year, and certainly you said that 1137 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: the Bill. You think that the Bills are gonna maybe 1138 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: not contend for the title until maybe next year. Yeah, 1139 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: I think New England's still going to be the team 1140 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: to beat in that division this year. And every year 1141 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: we sit there, we say, when's Brady gonna fall off? 1142 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 1: When's he going to become an ordinary quarterback and not 1143 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: be able to carry that team? And he's carried that 1144 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: team because they've had some flaws. But I don't think 1145 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: it's this year. I think they're still going to be 1146 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: the elite team in the division. I think the win's division. 1147 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: I think the Jets and the Bills are coming. And 1148 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: I like to make up for the Bills team more 1149 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: so than the Jets right now. I really like what 1150 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: they've done on offense. You know, they need guys to 1151 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 1: step up. Don't get me wrong. I think you know 1152 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: this guy, somebody like say Jones or Robert Foster, one 1153 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: of those guys needs to be, you know, a guy 1154 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 1: that can stretch the field and get down the fields 1155 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: become more of a factor. I think defensively, you know 1156 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: the pass rush, Jerry Uses is a good player. You 1157 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: know what about the Shack Lawson if you ever going 1158 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: to be one of those, you know, dominant players as 1159 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: they thought he could be. And then you go to 1160 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, some of the other spots. I think there's 1161 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: good players there, but depth could be an issue. So 1162 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 1: I think that's why they're your way. One thing that 1163 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: stands out about the Buffalo Bills to me watching them 1164 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: on tape, if you're watching him the first two years 1165 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: and Sean mcdermot's tenure there, they play hard. You can 1166 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: tell that they respect their coach and he gets the 1167 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: best out of him. You know, sometimes you wonder when 1168 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: you're watching the game and you go, oh boy, this 1169 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: team doesn't play that hard. I don't know how they 1170 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 1: feel about their coach, but you can tell when you 1171 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: watch the Buffalo builds, they have nothing but respect for 1172 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: their head coach and they play for him. With Pete Prisco, 1173 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: he is senior NFL columns for CBS sports dot Com, 1174 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,439 Speaker 1: host to the Pick six podcast. You mentioned the Jets 1175 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: and the Bills. You said they're both coming. We talk 1176 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: about the Jets a lot here over the last few weeks. 1177 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: Be and wonder, Steve, and I wonder what the turmoil, 1178 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,919 Speaker 1: the current turmoil, the GM issue with mccagnen and Adam Gase, 1179 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 1: What if how would that be quantified in wins and 1180 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 1: losses this year will have any effect at all on 1181 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: this year for the Jets or the immediate future for 1182 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: that franchise. My personal opinion is, and Steve would probably 1183 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: know this better than me because he played is until 1184 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: it's time to negotiate your contract, guys in the locker 1185 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: room don't care who the general manager is. I mean, yeah, 1186 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: you'd like you'd like that, now, you guys got you 1187 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: know he he played Buffalo At a great general manager 1188 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: of Bill Polly. He was fantastic of what he did. 1189 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: But until he got to deal with the contract situation, it's, 1190 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, you deal with the coach. The coach is 1191 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: the guy, and I think from that standpoint, Adam Gate 1192 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: is the guy that they're going to look to and 1193 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: it's all on him. Now they'll hire a general manager, 1194 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: probably be a guy that can work with Adam Case. 1195 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: Adam Case is high strung, he's very violatile, he's tough, to. 1196 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, he wants things done his way. I understand 1197 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: that Mike mccagnan was an exact opposite. So I think 1198 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: that they were never going to work together. It was 1199 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: never going to be a situation where they meshed. I 1200 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: think from you know, get the right guy in there. 1201 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: Guys will play. You play for your coach. You know 1202 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: you negotiate with the general manager, You play for your coach. Yeah. 1203 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,959 Speaker 1: I agree with that completely and Jet And remember Adam 1204 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: Gas went to Miami in that coaching when they made 1205 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: their coaching change, and he took them to the playoffs 1206 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 1: with a ten and six record his first year, and 1207 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: then it kind of deteriorated around him. Could we look 1208 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: at could we be looking at kind of a repeat 1209 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: of that where he comes in gets a splash this 1210 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: year with all the free agent money they spent with 1211 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: the draft picks that they got with Sam Darnolin his 1212 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: second year, Could Adam Gase get that same kind of 1213 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: bump for the Jets take them to the playoffs maybe 1214 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: in his first year, and then as this general manager 1215 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: thing progresses and they have to start building this team, 1216 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: it starts to go like it did in Miami. No, 1217 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so I don't because I don't think 1218 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: they're playoffs team this year either. I just don't. You know, 1219 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: I think both the Bills and the Jets will be, 1220 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, eight and eight, seven and nine pushing for something. 1221 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: But I don't know if either one of them will 1222 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 1: get there to have to throw ball out the past 1223 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: their their way to get there. But but I think 1224 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 1: you know what happened in Miami, and I'm gonna give 1225 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: credit to Adam Gays for this. There were guys in 1226 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,920 Speaker 1: Miami that didn't want to buy in and and you 1227 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: know you could. J gis perfect example. They've got him 1228 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: back in why he didn't buy in. He became a problem. 1229 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry, you know, they he was an issue at 1230 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: times for them, the Dominican sue. He fined them over 1231 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: and over and over and over again and just wouldn't 1232 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: do it. And so you know, when a guy makes sap, 1233 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: which money to find money is a little slap on 1234 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: the risk you didn't care. So when that happens, you 1235 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: get rid of guys. And so I give Gays credit 1236 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 1: for that. The problem is when you do that, you're 1237 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: getting rid of talent, and you know you gotta Sometimes 1238 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,959 Speaker 1: you gotta have a fine line between having the team 1239 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: built the way you want to build it, but also 1240 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: having guys that might not be one hundred percent buying in, 1241 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: but might be ninety percent buy again. Talking with Pete 1242 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: Prisco of CBA sports dot Com, I want to get 1243 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: you around the league a litt but Pete, and the 1244 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: news that came out yesterday about Richie Incognito, one of 1245 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: our favorites here in Buffalo, with a new role, a 1246 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: new job with the Oakland Raiders. Will he fit in 1247 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: with the Oakland Raiders, These Oakland Raiders, not the you 1248 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: know Oakland Raiders of nineteen eighty seven or something like that. Yeah, 1249 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: he would have been great and the old Oakland Raiders, 1250 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: no question about that. I mean. And if you guys 1251 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: know Ritchie's when you watch film Ritchie, it's one of 1252 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: the most pleasurable things to do is to watch him 1253 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: after the whistle. And I told him that, I go, 1254 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: I go, Richie, you're you're you are dirty and Sylphie 1255 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: after that whistle, I said, but you push it right 1256 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: to the edge. You know, it's not like he's you know, blasted. 1257 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Guys like Sue doesn't stepping on their head but Richie 1258 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 1: after the whistle right or right up until the whistle 1259 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: is a fun watch. He's a tough kid. He's you know, 1260 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: good to have around when you're you know, from a 1261 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 1: run game standpoint, if that's what the Raiders want to 1262 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: do more of. And it's a one year deal. And look, 1263 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: he's had his issues. Everybody knows that he had his 1264 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: issues in Miami. He's had issues off the field, Richie, 1265 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 1: and you guys know Ritchie. Richie can be a vote 1266 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: tall guy. I happen to like again. And look, I 1267 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: know he's had some missus in his life, but I 1268 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: like Richie and Conino. And on a one year deal, 1269 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: that could be a good signing for the open. Well, 1270 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of guys that they've brought on board. 1271 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: Is it going to be enough to help Derek Carr 1272 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: prove that he is the quarterback he was about three 1273 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: years ago when they were twelve and four? Well, yeah, 1274 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's everything they've done this entire off season 1275 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: is to point the finger right out of them. I mean, 1276 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 1: you go out and get Antonio Brown, you sign Tyrone Williams, 1277 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: did draft Josh Jacobs to bring in some offensive line? 1278 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Help you know, you get Trent Brown to play right tackle. 1279 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 1: You know, for me, everything they've done is to find 1280 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: out if if he's the guy and you know you 1281 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 1: hear Gruten likes them, but he wants them to be 1282 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, stand in the pocket, take the shot to 1283 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: make the throws. Yeah, everything's in your in your court 1284 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: right now. Let's see if he can do it. Hey, 1285 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: there's you know, some attention focus on the Bills a 1286 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: ton of attention in recent months, Pete focused on the 1287 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who have added talent and they have a 1288 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: good young second year quarterback. They also have a first 1289 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 1: time head coach, Freddy Kitchens. Can he get that talent 1290 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 1: together into a team, maybe a successful team. Yeah, I 1291 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: mean the talent is there, but you know, it's one 1292 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: thing to talk about it in May, June, and July, 1293 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: and it's another thing to go out and do it 1294 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 1: in December. But particularly it's another thing to go out 1295 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: and do it in December. I always say that until 1296 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: you learn how to win close games, big games in 1297 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: December games, show me. You gotta show me. If you 1298 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: can show me you can do that, then I'm gonna 1299 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: be a believer. And they haven't done it. Yet they've 1300 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: not been a team that's been forced to play that 1301 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: style and play in those situations and it's all new 1302 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 1: to them. So until they show me they can do it, 1303 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my reservations. Plus the first time coach, 1304 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: plus it's you know, yeah, yeah, he's he's an offensive guy. 1305 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: Who He's got Todd Monkin in there as an offensive coordinator. 1306 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: How's that going to mesh with Baker Mayfield? They still 1307 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: have you know, Greg Robinson who played okay at less 1308 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: tackle last year, is he going to be able to 1309 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 1: hold up again? You know, the right tackle is a 1310 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: solid player, but not a great player. They don't have 1311 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: the best offensive line in the league, so there's still 1312 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: some issues there. But yeah, on paper, very good team. 1313 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: It's be excited about what they have, but again, you 1314 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: got to go out and show me. Yeah, just as 1315 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: a follow up to that, do you think Freddie Kitchens 1316 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: is the biggest question mark left in Cleveland? No? I 1317 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: think the left tackle is. Look, he played well last year, 1318 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: but if you're a left tackle is a problem, you're 1319 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna have a problem. And I got to see him 1320 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: do it again. You know, they brought him back, and 1321 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, the right tackle. Chris hupperts a solid player 1322 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: and not a great player. But bring it back to 1323 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: your left tackle last year and can he sustain it again? 1324 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a big question for that. I want 1325 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 1: to ask you about a recent podcast you did Pete 1326 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 1: about quarterbacked extensions. So you guys talked about who would 1327 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: be more deserving. I guess who would you want to 1328 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: extend to a big time quarterback deal, Deak Prescott or 1329 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. How did that turn out? Who did you 1330 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 1: guys settle on? I would extend Carson Wentz. I think 1331 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. You know, everybody thought Carson Wentz at a 1332 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: bad year last year. He didn't. He was very good. 1333 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: It just wasn't what it was before the injury. But 1334 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I think the year removed from the injury, he's going 1335 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: to be a heck of a player this year. I 1336 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: think the Eagles are gonna have a good season again. 1337 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: But you know what, with those guys, you have to 1338 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: extend them both. You're almost damned if you do and 1339 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 1: damns if you don't. And I say that not because 1340 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of them is good. It 1341 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 1: is because, okay, let's say you give mega money to 1342 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Well, he's got to be a special player 1343 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 1: because essentially your roster's gonna, you know, fall off because 1344 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: of the cap reasons. You're gonna have attrition and then 1345 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's on him. And then can 1346 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: that quarterback carry a team when things aren't going as 1347 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 1: well as they are when he was a chief you 1348 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: know quarterback. So from that standpoint, I think you're damned 1349 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 1: if you do, and your damns if you don't. But 1350 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: I think both guys will get long term extense. You 1351 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: talk about a lot of quarterbacks have been there. Not 1352 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 1: too many have been in that spot where they're one 1353 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: of the higher paid quarterbacks and then leave. Joe Flacco 1354 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl for Baltimore. He's landed in Denver. 1355 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: Can he recapture what he was doing in Baltimore by 1356 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: winning a World championship out in the mountains. We're gonna 1357 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 1: get after a lot of help from a lot of 1358 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: young players, particularly the wide receivers. I mean, there's a 1359 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: young group around him. And look, he had moments where 1360 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: he was outstanding in the postseason over the years. I mean, 1361 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: he's one of the best postseason quarterback. You put up 1362 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: his numbers. You've been fantastic in the postseason, but that's 1363 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: been the same. He hasn't been very good for the 1364 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 1: last you know, three or four years, and so from 1365 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 1: that standpoint, I question it. And you know, John Elway's 1366 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: track record of quarterbacks hasn't exactly been great, So I 1367 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: have to see it to believe it. But right now 1368 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 1: i'd say that you know they're not going to be 1369 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: a playoffs. Here in my mind, one more question for you, 1370 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: and we're going to tap into your three decades of 1371 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: experience around The segue gets a long term NFL business 1372 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 1: questions and what appears to me to be kind of 1373 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: conflicting points here. Demorris Smith quoted as sending out a 1374 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: letter to agents. We're advising players to plan for a 1375 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: work stoppage of at least a year in length. And 1376 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: then a story in the New York Times yesterday where 1377 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 1: they said the NFL has begun, it's pushed for a 1378 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: new labor agreement and things are going pretty well. Which 1379 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: way do you think this is going? Well? I think 1380 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 1: it's going better than people thought it would go. To 1381 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: be honest with you, but Demarrow Smith is always going 1382 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,439 Speaker 1: to send out the file boat to save your money 1383 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: just in case it doesn't. You know, yeok, we know 1384 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: these guys aren't going to save their money for that. 1385 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. I'm not saving either. I mean, 1386 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: you can throw them all. Look, you might not work 1387 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 1: in a couple of years, save your money, well, love, 1388 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: those guys, think about the ranked file the National Football League. 1389 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: What fifty percent of them won't be in the league 1390 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 1: in a couple of years, right, what are they saving 1391 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 1: their money for? I mean the reality is is, yeah, 1392 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 1: the stars, they could save their money, but the ranked 1393 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 1: file aren't going to be in the league. The majority 1394 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: of those guys are gone. So what are you saving 1395 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 1: your money for? You know, granted I'm not saying you 1396 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: should save your money anyway, but but it's hard to 1397 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: tell those guys to do that to prepare for something 1398 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 1: they're likely not going to be involved. Yeah, do you 1399 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 1: think what are the chances do you think there'll be 1400 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: any kind of work stoppage or do you think both 1401 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 1: sides will see that? If you know, um, if it 1402 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 1: does have a the damage it could do if they 1403 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: do get a workstoppage, how big a specter does that 1404 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 1: possibility cast over the negotiations and what do you think 1405 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: the chances are that something actually doesn't get done before 1406 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 1: it expires. The league's making money, the players are making money, 1407 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 1: The CAP's going up. You know they're gonna let them 1408 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 1: smoke pots eventually, you know, Yeah, I think it gets done. 1409 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: I think cooler heads will prevail. Now. One of the 1410 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 1: things I've talked about is an eighteen game season. If 1411 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 1: people think I'm nuts, but what you do is expand 1412 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: the rosters. That means more jobs. Give them each team 1413 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: two weeks off, and each player aside from the quarterback, 1414 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 1: plays only sixteen games, so it puts more strategy into it. 1415 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Now you've got to decide, am I going to play 1416 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: a guy in week seventeen that's or is he going 1417 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: to be ineligible to play? And it gives more jobs. 1418 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: It will put more money in the pockets of the players, 1419 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 1: and then you can maybe give them a little bit 1420 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: more time off in the summer, uh to you know, 1421 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 1: recoup their bodies a little bit. For me, I think 1422 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: that would work. I don't know if it'ld over be 1423 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: out there, but I think that's a formula for successful 1424 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 1: expanding the league. Tame just a second pet I want 1425 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: to take a deep breath. I'm gonna push back from 1426 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: the microphone and a my partner, John Murphy's gonna gonna 1427 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 1: expand it on a soar point here, Pete, because we 1428 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 1: call that the Tasker plan. Here players play sixteen games 1429 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,759 Speaker 1: in an eighteen game season. I've told Steve he was crazy, 1430 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: and now he's gonna site you whenever he brings up 1431 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: the Tasker plan. No, I never heard you say this, see, 1432 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: but it's absolutely if it makes all the sense in 1433 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 1: the world. And aside from the quarterback, the quarterback has 1434 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: to play a TV that's fine. Here's the thing. You're right, 1435 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: the stars got you gotta have the quarterbacks play because 1436 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: the position is too difficult. But you get it's you 1437 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:46,679 Speaker 1: give the union more jobs, you give the TV people 1438 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 1: more product, and and you cut the preseason by two games. 1439 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah see, and then you have one scrimmage like okay, 1440 01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 1: the build each year would go to Toronto or something 1441 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 1: and having scrimmage with another Northern team where you go 1442 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 1: to a city where and all the money that's raised 1443 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 1: goes to the charitable groups in the area forever like Buffalo, 1444 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,720 Speaker 1: and who else trains up there by Buffalo? You could 1445 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: get those two teams to go to one of the other. 1446 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 1: You go Buffalo Cleveland, have the game in the eerie 1447 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 1: for for whatever. Yeah yeah, and you go to the 1448 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 1: high school stadium and whatever money you raise, you have 1449 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,040 Speaker 1: like a carnival like atmosphere for you get bands out 1450 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: there and whatever money is raised that week, it goes 1451 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: to the charities in that area and gives a lot 1452 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 1: of people a chance to experience NFL football that can't 1453 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 1: necessarily experience it. And for me, I think it makes 1454 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 1: all the sense of the world. You get eighteen games, 1455 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 1: like you said, more product for the TV fans will 1456 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 1: love it. The seasons longer, and you know, the players 1457 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 1: aren't playing more games, which and it's just the only 1458 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 1: people who won't won't like it are the coaches because 1459 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: it puts more strategy and play. Well. Pete, now we 1460 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 1: gotta let you go because Tasker wants to take a 1461 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:57,080 Speaker 1: victory lap around our studio here. I'm telling Pete, it's 1462 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 1: it's a great plan. I love it. Thank you, Pete. 1463 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: We appreciate you guy. We appreciate your perspective. Thanks Pete. Prisco, 1464 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: CBS Sports NFL couldun the Senior NFL column as hosts 1465 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: of the Pick six podcast cover the NFL for over 1466 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,680 Speaker 1: thirty years, and he agrees with Steve Tasker. Look a 1467 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 1: lot of what he said. I agree with two two 1468 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 1: preseason games, have a scrimmage with a chair by team, 1469 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 1: give the proceeds to charity. Blah blah blah. I'm all 1470 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 1: by that. Sixteen or six players playing sixteen of the 1471 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: eighteen games, No, nope, can't do it. Quarterbacks play, okay, quarterback. 1472 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 1: What if Larry Fitzgerald in the Arizona Cardinals around the schedule, Oh, 1473 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,600 Speaker 1: we're keeping Larry out this game. I'm not going to 1474 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,600 Speaker 1: that game. And if as a season ticket older, I 1475 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 1: want a refund because I'm not seeing the Arizona Cardinals 1476 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 1: with Larry Fitzgerald or Antonio Brown and the Oakland Raiders. 1477 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 1: None of that makes any sense. Oh, if Larry Fitzgerald 1478 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 1: on a Friday steps off the curtain breaks his ankle, 1479 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: it's not a conscious, deliberate decision to keep him out 1480 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 1: of the line. You know, you know those rules going 1481 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 1: into buying your season tickets. You know there's a chance 1482 01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 1: you have seen a deliberate decision to keep the guy 1483 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: out on the lineup. That's not treating the fans fairly, 1484 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: that's not it's a players safety issue. If you and 1485 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco against eight million other NFL fans. Oh, I 1486 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: think the fans would love that. I don't oh I 1487 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 1: would particularly you know who would really get off on 1488 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 1: it and Mike Show fantasy football players would go crazy 1489 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 1: over this because you got guys who you've got to 1490 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: stay on top of them, get in and out of 1491 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:28,800 Speaker 1: the lineup. It's it's it's absolutely positively genius. You and 1492 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: Pete versus every other win win every front. It's a 1493 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: win a break. We're back with more One Bill's Like. Hey, 1494 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 1: by the way, we're gonna read some of your tweets 1495 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: on the Corrigan Moving tweet sheet. We'd love to hear 1496 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: your phone calls about our question of to day, your 1497 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 1: expectations for Josh Allen in his second season in the NFL. 1498 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three five fifty toll 1499 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty 1500 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: or sending a tweet at one Bill's Live. We're back 1501 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 1: with more One Bill's Live, presented by Kalina Health from 1502 01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 1: One Bill Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome. It's 1503 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 1: One Bills Live. We're midway through the show practice, ending 1504 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,679 Speaker 1: the OTA session number five. Expect to get Trent Murphy 1505 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,679 Speaker 1: in here momentarily. Johnny questions for Trent Murphy, Stevie, not yet, Okay, 1506 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: we'll have something for him. He's coming in after today's 1507 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,800 Speaker 1: OTA session. Hey, we'll be started today. I'd like to 1508 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,639 Speaker 1: get back to this a little bit and get your opinions, 1509 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: get you into the show. Listener viewer Josh Allen going 1510 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 1: into a second year. We talked to Chris Brown about 1511 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 1: his practice yesterday, getting rave reviews for his work in 1512 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 1: practice yesterday. We talked a moment ago with our guest 1513 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco about Josh Allen, and we ask you the question, 1514 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: what are your expectations for Josh Allen in his second 1515 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,719 Speaker 1: season in the NFL. Give us a call. Let's discuss 1516 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,880 Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty the number to call toll 1517 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,639 Speaker 1: free from outside Buffalo one eight five fifty two five fifty, 1518 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,040 Speaker 1: or you can send it a tweet. We're going to 1519 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 1: get through the tweet sheet in a moment, but first 1520 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: to call it. It comes from Mark in Buffalo. Hello, 1521 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 1: Mark Ahead, you're on the air, Mark in Buffalo, Hello, Mark, 1522 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,680 Speaker 1: Aw you there? No, he is not callback Mark and 1523 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: Buffalo great tweet. At least the phones are working even 1524 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 1: if Marks I thought they were working. Yeah, tweet sheet, 1525 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 1: it is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the 1526 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 1: official movers up the Buffalo Bills. Tweet sheet. Take it away, 1527 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 1: Steve all Right. From Nick, he's what are your expectations 1528 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 1: for Josh Allen in his sophomore season? Expectations for approximately 1529 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: thirty five hundred yards, thirty tds, five or six tds running, 1530 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 1: obvious growth from last year with a revamped offensive line, 1531 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 1: wide receivers that can create separation running game that was 1532 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 1: non existent in year one. In my opinion, playoffs are 1533 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: a must. If the d can stay a defense can 1534 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: stay top ten, there's no reason the Bills are not 1535 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 1: a playoff team. If you got a quarterback doing what 1536 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: he says Josh Allen should do. I think he's right. 1537 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 1: You improvement, I think that's true. Thirty touchdowns, Yeah, that is. 1538 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 1: That's an enormous jump rushing, that's big. And he doesn't 1539 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,560 Speaker 1: say anything about how many interceptions last year he was 1540 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,560 Speaker 1: what ten and twelve was and ten touchdowns twelve interceptions, 1541 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 1: I mean that's played twelve games started eleven last year 1542 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 1: and got the ten touchdown passes. So what's that. That's 1543 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 1: a rate of one point two per game. So I 1544 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 1: don't know, can you get it up to two points 1545 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 1: something a game to get the thirty touchdown passes? That's 1546 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: a lot. It's a big jump. That's a big jump. 1547 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 1: But that's what we're talking about here. Some of these 1548 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we've been speaking about that have done that. 1549 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,720 Speaker 1: Jared Goff was an atrocity bust his first year and 1550 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 1: then he turns into you know what is what could 1551 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: have been an MVP candidate a year or two later. 1552 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: So we try to have a phone call here, let's 1553 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 1: see we can do this, Cory and Buffalo Corey. I'm 1554 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 1: gonna put him on hold and we will retrench. But 1555 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: why don't you go to Okay, we go back to 1556 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet from Brian. What are your expectations for 1557 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 1: Josh Allen in his sophomore season from Brian, And obviously 1558 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,560 Speaker 1: there's a bit of an improved surrounding cast, and we 1559 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 1: can see more than his desire to compete for wins, 1560 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: not putting stats into it. I wanted to be a 1561 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 1: pocket passer who delivers catchable balls. In all three levels 1562 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 1: while recognizing the defenses and deciphering optimal target. And I 1563 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 1: just say this, I love the fact that Brian did 1564 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 1: not do it in a stat based way because I 1565 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,879 Speaker 1: don't think the true manager of Josh or any quarterback 1566 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,680 Speaker 1: comes from solely statistics. There's a lot more to it. 1567 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 1: We all have this idea that when we see it, 1568 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 1: we'll recognize it no matter what the statistics say. We 1569 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 1: see it. We staying about him now, well, now we 1570 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 1: all the people who believe Josh Allen is the guy. 1571 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: It's not about his statistics last year, certainly, right. I 1572 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,760 Speaker 1: mean statistics were bad last year. He had started eleven games, 1573 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 1: they were five and six in those games he threw 1574 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 1: for just over what two thousand yards? Last season? He 1575 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 1: just wasn't good enough, right, And the problem is that's 1576 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 1: your stats aren't reflective of the effect that he had 1577 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 1: on the game. Remember how you felt when you watch 1578 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,840 Speaker 1: this guy play. He was the best player on the 1579 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 1: field on either team in more than a handful of 1580 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 1: games that we watched him playing. Last year, this team 1581 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: was five and six with him, And I can I 1582 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 1: keep going back to it, or dropped passed away from 1583 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,640 Speaker 1: being six and five with him a starting quarterback, and 1584 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: he was the reason they were one and four without him. 1585 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean, he was compelling to watch. He carried this offense. 1586 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 1: He made this whole team way better than it was 1587 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 1: without him. And that's what you look at. So when 1588 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 1: you get a guy like Brian who comes in on 1589 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,879 Speaker 1: the tweet sheets says, I'm not gonna put a statistic 1590 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,720 Speaker 1: on it. I just wanted to look like it. I 1591 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: get it. And even though even though it's hard to communicate, 1592 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: you know it when you see it. Most of us do. 1593 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: Another from the tweet sheet, from the Corrigan Moving System 1594 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 1: tweet sheet, from one shot tweets, and I expect peaks 1595 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 1: and valleys, but more wins than losses. Josh is a 1596 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,840 Speaker 1: team player who wants to win more than anything else. 1597 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 1: I expect him and Dave Old to find weaknesses in 1598 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 1: opposing defenses and game plan to exploit those weaknesses. I 1599 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,759 Speaker 1: expect some big games and some sound game manager type games. 1600 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 1: It's a good way to look at it. Right. There 1601 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,560 Speaker 1: might be games where his numbers are not impressive and 1602 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 1: you see, well they won and he didn't turn it 1603 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 1: over more than once or something. Right, you know, you 1604 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: can live with that. I think if your defense is 1605 01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 1: as it was last year, a top ten They were 1606 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 1: a top two defense last year. If your defense is 1607 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:27,560 Speaker 1: that good and you got a strong running game, you 1608 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,599 Speaker 1: can live with game manager type performances from your quarterback. Yeah, 1609 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 1: I like it too. And here's another one from the 1610 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. What are your expectations for Josh Allen as 1611 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 1: sophomore season? And this is we're getting into it more 1612 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 1: and more. Everybody's trying to describe what we all kind 1613 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 1: of see in our own mind's eye. Pete says, I 1614 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 1: hope to see him work on taking what the defense 1615 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,719 Speaker 1: gives him, settle down into the pocket, make some better reads. 1616 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: The new weapons around him should help take another step 1617 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 1: this season. All that stuff is kind of you can't 1618 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 1: quantify it, but you know it when you see it. 1619 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 1: And I think, I think what a lot of Bills 1620 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 1: fans would say, you know, as opt mystic because a 1621 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of them are me included. I want more people 1622 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 1: who didn't like Josh two years ago to fall in 1623 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 1: love with him this year by seeing watching what he does. Yeah, 1624 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean that it's hard, 1625 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,680 Speaker 1: let's face him. Pete Priscoe acknowledged it too. We just 1626 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 1: had him on the senior columnists for CBS Sports Network. 1627 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 1: He said, you know, there's a lot of people who 1628 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,920 Speaker 1: didn't like him. He was very polarizing when he came out. 1629 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: There's no doubt that he has won some of those 1630 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 1: people over. But it'd be nice for him to put 1631 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 1: the people who he didn't win over on an island 1632 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 1: by themselves. You know, like, now, what do you say? 1633 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 1: You know, they've got to make it. They've got to 1634 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 1: acknowledge how good he is, right, what a difference player, 1635 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 1: the kind of player he is, the way you know 1636 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 1: you and I are so willing to do Oh he 1637 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: can do that, right, there's no guarantee you can do that. 1638 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 1: That's the sweetest thing to think about, though. That's the 1639 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,599 Speaker 1: most delicious thing ever to have all these people out 1640 01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,640 Speaker 1: there who are killing him. Still, he was polarizing, and 1641 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to figure why. You know, it 1642 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was Johnny Man's Allen in college or anything. 1643 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 1: He played wayoming, you know, I mean, even Mahomes wasn't polarizing, right, right, No, 1644 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,720 Speaker 1: some people liked them better than others. The Bills liked them, 1645 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 1: didn't draft them, but the Bills like them, Well they 1646 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 1: got more assets out of what they thought was going 1647 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,000 Speaker 1: to be an easier place to get one the next year, Yeah, 1648 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 1: and you know them and everybody else kind of passed 1649 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,639 Speaker 1: on him. Interesting One more from the tweet sheet from 1650 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 1: Brian for Josh's second year, I'm not looking for him 1651 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 1: to hit certain stack goals, but I would love for 1652 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 1: Josh Ellen to become a team captain and lead the 1653 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 1: Bills to a winning season, preferably a wildcard game or more. 1654 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 1: I put in the or more part. I don't want 1655 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 1: to just end it the wildcard game. But yeah, again, 1656 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: this is a non statistical look, and I think you 1657 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,040 Speaker 1: and I appreciate these, a non stat based look on 1658 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 1: what we're expecting and hoping for from Josh Allen and 1659 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,799 Speaker 1: his second year. Look the part at the part win games. 1660 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 1: That's really what we're asking for, right, you know, not 1661 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 1: razor completion percentage up four or five percentage points. Who cares? Really? 1662 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,560 Speaker 1: Who cares if you're winning, man, right, no matter no 1663 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: matter what it takes. And hopefully we're sitting here having 1664 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,640 Speaker 1: this conversation when you know the team's like twelve and 1665 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,639 Speaker 1: four and Josh's you know, run for another seven hundred 1666 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 1: yards and throw him for thirty. You know, is he 1667 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 1: doing too much? Do they need more help? Does you know? 1668 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: How do you do it? This week? You know he 1669 01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 1: ran too much this week, but he threw a bunch 1670 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: of this week. They won both games. You know that 1671 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Those are the kind of debates you 1672 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 1: love having if you're a fan, and that's kind of 1673 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 1: the thing. You sit back and you look at Josh 1674 01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 1: and what's it gonna look like. It's hard to know 1675 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,720 Speaker 1: because he can do all of that, right. Um, they 1676 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 1: tell me to try the phone lines again. Here we go. 1677 01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm with you, murf. Let's go push the button. Oh 1678 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 1: now I can't. It's been great. Seriously, you can't, you can't. 1679 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 1: We can't get a phone call up. I got a 1680 01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 1: call from Corey in Buffalo. Can we bring that up? 1681 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 1: Corey in Buffalo? Hello Corey? Hey, can you hear me now? Murf? 1682 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,519 Speaker 1: We can't. Thank you, Correy, thanks for getting through quite 1683 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,559 Speaker 1: a special. We're gonna send you a gifts or divergate 1684 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 1: to some plate. We're not this Mark and Buffalo. Oh 1685 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 1: well we'll not back then you won't get that gifts. Good. Sorry, 1686 01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Mark and Buffalo welcome. Congratulations Murphy. I think Steve needs 1687 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 1: to start calling you mister Murphy from now on as 1688 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,200 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, Broadcast Hall of Famer. It ain't happening, absolutely, 1689 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,800 Speaker 1: you know that's not that's a good point, but you 1690 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,559 Speaker 1: But thank that's good. Yes, congratulations to John Murphy. Everybody 1691 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 1: who just got is going to be inducted into the 1692 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo Broadcast Hall of Fame. We're stoked about it. What 1693 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:39,640 Speaker 1: do you got, Mark? Uh? Real quick, a couple of comments, Uh, 1694 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I believe he's gonna have a kind of 1695 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 1: season where his highs are going to be real high 1696 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 1: and maybe some lows that are sort of low. I'm 1697 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 1: just hoping that he outnumbers the lows by two to three, 1698 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 1: four plays to one, okay, because I think he's that 1699 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of talent. Question Mark, why do you see the 1700 01:21:55,640 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: lows being so low? Um? You can't dismiss some of 1701 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 1: the bad throws that he made last year. He's got 1702 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,519 Speaker 1: to work on that, and I know he is, and 1703 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,920 Speaker 1: I believe he's going to correct that. That's number one. 1704 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: But he's also still a young quarterback and he still 1705 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,639 Speaker 1: hasn't seen a lot of things, so he may get 1706 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 1: fooled on some plays. He still needs to grow his knowledge. 1707 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 1: I believe he's a leader. I believe he's willing to 1708 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,360 Speaker 1: take control of things out there. Excuse me, but I 1709 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 1: think he's still going to have some some growth things. Yeah, 1710 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: let me And that's that's an interesting point, Mark, and 1711 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 1: I just went back and looked and thought a little 1712 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,919 Speaker 1: bit about last year. His worst performance last year probably 1713 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 1: was the game at green Bay right through a couple 1714 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 1: of interceptions, no touchdowns, Right, and how bad was he 1715 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 1: that day? The whole team was bad that day, by 1716 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,040 Speaker 1: the way, but he might have been his worst right 1717 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 1: the Green Bay games? What do you think was that? 1718 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,040 Speaker 1: What you're thinking? Mark? Yeah, I am, But I think 1719 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I've been a Bill's fan for since the day they 1720 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:59,680 Speaker 1: opened quote unquote rich Stadium, and I had seasons through 1721 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,519 Speaker 1: almost two thousand and we haven't had a quarterback since 1722 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 1: since Jim that no matter how bad the game seems 1723 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,920 Speaker 1: to be going on any given play, that guy a 1724 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 1: quarterback can turn a game around for us. And that's 1725 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 1: the feeling I get with Josh. He can turn the 1726 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 1: game around with one throw. He's competitive is all get out. 1727 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 1: He wants to win, and he fits our team so well, 1728 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 1: he fits us communities so well. I mean since the 1729 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 1: day he started playing here, I following in well with him, 1730 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 1: and I just hope he continues to grow. So that 1731 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,360 Speaker 1: that's my thoughts about but Josh, and then the other 1732 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to comment on real quick is the 1733 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 1: eighteen game schedule. One thing's for sure, sports sports lie 1734 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 1: ULDs are like politicians. If it makes too much sense, 1735 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 1: it's too much common sense and the people want it, 1736 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,040 Speaker 1: they'll never go for it. So I love to hear it, 1737 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 1: love to see it, but I don't believe they'd ever 1738 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 1: go for it. Do you think it makes sense to 1739 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 1: keep players out when they're healthy? I do. If you're 1740 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,720 Speaker 1: gonna go to an eighteen game schedule, I think it 1741 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 1: would be really really interesting. I mean, sports team could 1742 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 1: become sort of boring. We need to change things up 1743 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, not the same old, same old every year. 1744 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 1: It would be really interesting to see how a coach 1745 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 1: would handle trying to move players from the offensive line 1746 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 1: in and out to the point where he doesn't weaken 1747 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,400 Speaker 1: his line any given a week. I guess it's interesting. 1748 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,000 Speaker 1: It's also like saying, Hey, this week, we're going to tire. 1749 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Your one arm behind your back. Now, let's see a 1750 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 1: fight with one arm. And that's what we're talking about here. 1751 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,320 Speaker 1: You have this team you put together. You can't use 1752 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,679 Speaker 1: that entire team this Sunday because of this new rule. 1753 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 1: Go ahead and play. Now, what are we doing? Why 1754 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,479 Speaker 1: would we do that? Then? I think you need to 1755 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,160 Speaker 1: abandon ever going to a larger ske Why don't you 1756 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,519 Speaker 1: just play your best pitcher every day because you can't 1757 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,800 Speaker 1: pitch well every day, can't play football well every week either. 1758 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,360 Speaker 1: Sixteen games is a lot different than pitching. It's no, 1759 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,639 Speaker 1: I'm not giving in on this one. We're gonna think 1760 01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 1: it's not the same, exactly the same. It's not the 1761 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,840 Speaker 1: same thing. It's exactly the same. We're taking a break. 1762 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 1: See what we're gonna keep saying this. During the break, 1763 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 1: one goes live from One's Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1764 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back, It's One Bill's Live. John Murphy, Steve Task here, 1765 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,799 Speaker 1: the Bills Ota number five has just completed and joining 1766 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,720 Speaker 1: us in studio, getting said for a second year or 1767 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 1: the Bills six year in the NFL. Happy to have 1768 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,680 Speaker 1: defensive end Trent Murphy, High, Trent, thanks for coming by. 1769 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,280 Speaker 1: Were happy to be here as always. We were reminiscing 1770 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 1: about a year ago. At this time, you were basically 1771 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,800 Speaker 1: on the station, everybody on the sideline. You couldn't do 1772 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,720 Speaker 1: much right with me Now he had me in the 1773 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,880 Speaker 1: red jers. They looked like a quarterback out there. It 1774 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 1: was it was the worst. So I'm happy to be 1775 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: out there with my guys working right now. We're just 1776 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 1: before we came on, just the second before. I remember 1777 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:43,799 Speaker 1: what it was like, and it's one of the reasons, 1778 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, guys stopped playings because you spend all your 1779 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 1: time working around this ache and this pain and this 1780 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 1: bad shoulder, this bad need, whatever, whatever. And you spend 1781 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the time last year working hard, but 1782 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:58,080 Speaker 1: you had to work around your rehab and now that's 1783 01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 1: all different. Yeah, I mean it's tough. I have a 1784 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 1: lot of respect for guys that have been through injuries 1785 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 1: and done it well because it's something people don't really 1786 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,760 Speaker 1: talk about how hard it is, and it's kind of 1787 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 1: a lonely journey. Even though you're you're with the team, 1788 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,080 Speaker 1: you're kind of on the side. And I know Kyle, 1789 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 1: he's not here anymore, but he always helped a lot, 1790 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,360 Speaker 1: and he always said. You know, at one point in 1791 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,640 Speaker 1: his career, he was like, he said to himself, I 1792 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 1: want to know how great I could be, how great 1793 01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 1: of a career I can have if I just never quit? 1794 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 1: And that kind of resonate with me, and I think 1795 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 1: it's resonate with the guys that are injured. Just how 1796 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:25,960 Speaker 1: good can you be if you never quit and you 1797 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 1: never give up? And even though you might not see 1798 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 1: the results from all that hard work because you're on 1799 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 1: the side and you have nagging injuries and it's going 1800 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 1: to other places, eventually you'll kind of reput you. So 1801 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,479 Speaker 1: so I gotta learned a lot from him and he'll 1802 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 1: push me through that. And it was in a tough year. 1803 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,439 Speaker 1: It always is for guys that go through that injury. 1804 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 1: And Kyle was speaking from experience. He had a couple 1805 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:46,560 Speaker 1: of years in the middle of his career where he 1806 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,439 Speaker 1: had just terrible foot injuries every year, always trying to 1807 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,559 Speaker 1: come back to that. He knew what you went through 1808 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 1: last Oh yeah, he's been through it. He's been there, 1809 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,920 Speaker 1: he's done it, so you can respect what he says. 1810 01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,680 Speaker 1: So so for sure, and it wasn't as if you 1811 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 1: coasted last year. Thirteen games started ten, So you were 1812 01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 1: kind of a Steve said, getting around at fighting through it. 1813 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,719 Speaker 1: I would think, huh, yeah. I mean I still wanted 1814 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 1: to do my job and didn't want to let down 1815 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:08,920 Speaker 1: the guy next to me, and we preached that, and 1816 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:10,519 Speaker 1: I wanted to do my one to love and I 1817 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,599 Speaker 1: felt even though I was hopping along, I could still 1818 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 1: do my one to eleven and let Tremaine or Milan 1819 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 1: or whoever clean up behind me. So I was fighting 1820 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,080 Speaker 1: for sure. And what does it feel like now, like 1821 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 1: your knee and your conditioning in your overall health, how 1822 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:24,920 Speaker 1: do you feel now compared to where you were? Yeah, 1823 01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's just good to be out there. I 1824 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,920 Speaker 1: think I feel good. Everyone feels good. We're excited to 1825 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 1: be out there and then just to keep building every 1826 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 1: day really what we're doing. So it's a it's a 1827 01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,320 Speaker 1: much much better starting point for me mentally and physically, 1828 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,519 Speaker 1: and I think being there with the guys helps a ton. 1829 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,640 Speaker 1: There was a lot of new faces last year. Even 1830 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 1: though you know your defense ended up being a top 1831 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,840 Speaker 1: two defense in the National Football League, it's still got 1832 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,600 Speaker 1: to make a difference with that much time and that 1833 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,120 Speaker 1: many reps under the belt and that much familiarity with 1834 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,680 Speaker 1: the guys around you, that much familiarity with the systems, 1835 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 1: that can you guys use that as a springboard. Is 1836 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,760 Speaker 1: it gonna come back? Is it gonna make you an 1837 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 1: even better defense? In some ways, I think we can 1838 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 1: use it in the sense that we were good last year, 1839 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 1: but we left so many plays and made so many 1840 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:16,080 Speaker 1: mistakes and gave up explosives and could have had more takeaways, 1841 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,919 Speaker 1: And so I think we can use it as motivation 1842 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,880 Speaker 1: to be excited about what we can build. But you're 1843 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 1: only as good as your next play, and we have 1844 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,759 Speaker 1: so much to prove. And I think the tape speaks 1845 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 1: for itself always, but we have a lot of work 1846 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: to do it. And I think last year, like knowing 1847 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 1: how much it was still left on the field, gives 1848 01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 1: you excitement for the work you can put in to 1849 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,360 Speaker 1: kind of see that come to fruition. With Bill's defensive 1850 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,439 Speaker 1: end Trent Murphy getting set for a second season with 1851 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, a teammate getting set for his first 1852 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 1: season his first round draft pick at Oliver, You've had 1853 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks of OTA's with him. What do 1854 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 1: you see so far from him's what's good about him. 1855 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,600 Speaker 1: What have you seen? Yeah, probably more than anything is 1856 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,600 Speaker 1: his passion and fight. I mean there's no question that 1857 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,599 Speaker 1: he's a dog. I mean he's coming off the ball 1858 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 1: and he's fighting. I mean we almost have to break 1859 01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,560 Speaker 1: up a fight every play because he's so passionate and 1860 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,800 Speaker 1: wants to win and wants to be good. And I 1861 01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,599 Speaker 1: think he can be as as special as he wants 1862 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,800 Speaker 1: to be. And he's a rookie, so I'm not gonna 1863 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 1: give him too much credit. He's got a long ways 1864 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,800 Speaker 1: to go and a lot to prove, but I think 1865 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 1: he can be a tool and a and something like 1866 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,400 Speaker 1: a sharp tool we have. Well, he's got a unique 1867 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 1: skill set, right, And I've been saying, just off the 1868 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,240 Speaker 1: top of my head out here with mister Tasker, that 1869 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,240 Speaker 1: he might present some opportunities to have different looks up 1870 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,080 Speaker 1: front front seven with a guy like that, quick, guy 1871 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 1: like that undersized too. Yeah, definitely. I mean the more 1872 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 1: packages and variations and things Coach Frasier can throw at 1873 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 1: an offense and keep them on their toes and they 1874 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna put in and these four 1875 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 1: rushed different than these four and having a player as 1876 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,839 Speaker 1: talented as him I mean it gives us a special 1877 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 1: package that we can work like twelve months later. I mean, 1878 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,240 Speaker 1: you drafted a guy last year number one overall to 1879 01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,320 Speaker 1: sit in the middle of the defense, and Tremaine Edmonds 1880 01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,800 Speaker 1: who wasn't even well he's still you can't even have 1881 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,160 Speaker 1: a beer with him yet, so so don't try, right, Yeah, 1882 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,599 Speaker 1: how has he evolved? And how is how do you sense? 1883 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 1: You know? The Because I having a guy like that 1884 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,400 Speaker 1: who's supposed to make all the calls and communicate with everybody, 1885 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,280 Speaker 1: you feel like everybody has conversations with the guy. What's 1886 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,200 Speaker 1: different about him this year? Yeah, I mean I think 1887 01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,320 Speaker 1: confidence is sky high. Last year, I mean, new team, 1888 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,560 Speaker 1: new system, new role, middle linebacker, he's got to be 1889 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 1: a leader. Everyone's kind of looking to him to make 1890 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 1: those calls, and he did a great job. But I 1891 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,240 Speaker 1: think going into year two and having that year under 1892 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,280 Speaker 1: his bill, he's like, all right, you know, I got 1893 01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 1: this out. He's barking out the calls confidently and we 1894 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,600 Speaker 1: trust him. And I think that's a big thing. We 1895 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,920 Speaker 1: harp on here and we all trust him up front. 1896 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:39,800 Speaker 1: If it's a wrong call, we're all gonna be wrong together. 1897 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of the biggest point. That's 1898 01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,880 Speaker 1: a foundation we're trying to lay here in Ota. So 1899 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 1: it's it's been cool to see him evolve and grow 1900 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,800 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see what he can do with 1901 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 1: the defensive end. Trent Murphy, the Buffalo Bills. I wonder um. Well, 1902 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,000 Speaker 1: we had Eddie Yarborough in here yesterday talking about how 1903 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,479 Speaker 1: he plans during what he got five weeks after the 1904 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,000 Speaker 1: end of Mini camp before tweting came. He plans on 1905 01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,639 Speaker 1: joining you and Lorenzo out in Phoenix, right a little 1906 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,040 Speaker 1: working out out there, That's what That's what Eddie says. 1907 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,120 Speaker 1: He's been known to say he's gonna be in Phoenix 1908 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:12,200 Speaker 1: before and show up last time. So you work out 1909 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,760 Speaker 1: with Lorenzo out there. Yeah, Zoe Shack where we're out 1910 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,560 Speaker 1: there training and I know Zoe he might bring his 1911 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,519 Speaker 1: family out there. And Zoe's always working, so we're trying 1912 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,240 Speaker 1: to keep up with him and he's setting the standard. 1913 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,080 Speaker 1: But it's a great place to be. It's gonna be 1914 01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:27,400 Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventeen degrees out there, so get 1915 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,720 Speaker 1: our conditioning up in the in the desert heat, and 1916 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 1: hopefully Eddie shows up and works with us. We were 1917 01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 1: talking before the break. You're you're you're you're still in 1918 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 1: your twenties, You're you feel like I gotta feel like 1919 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 1: this is this is right in your wheelhouse or your career. 1920 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,920 Speaker 1: And but you also said last year was probably one 1921 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: of the most difficult years you've had to suffer through 1922 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,760 Speaker 1: as a as a probe, just because of the physicality 1923 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:50,240 Speaker 1: of it. You weren't you didn't feel like you were 1924 01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,479 Speaker 1: as up to it as you wanted to be. Is 1925 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 1: that going to change this year? How much of a 1926 01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,360 Speaker 1: difference could that make for you? Yeah? I mean I've 1927 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,920 Speaker 1: always had high standards for myself. I mean my family 1928 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 1: I started there. I want to make them proud and 1929 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,400 Speaker 1: want to make you know, my team and coach is 1930 01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 1: proud and don't let the guy down next to me, 1931 01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,240 Speaker 1: and I know they're going hard and what we put 1932 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 1: into is so I want to always put my best 1933 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,120 Speaker 1: foot forward, and when that doesn't happen, I'm disappointed and 1934 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:15,600 Speaker 1: I want to work and want to get better. So 1935 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,960 Speaker 1: last year wasn't my best. I think my best is 1936 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 1: yet to come, and we're just gonna keep working and 1937 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 1: keep working together. And I know guys like Jerry and 1938 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Star and Big Jordan and all those guys inside. I mean, 1939 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,599 Speaker 1: they're they're going to definitely push me to keep putting 1940 01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,599 Speaker 1: my best foot forward. And I'm excited just to keep 1941 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,439 Speaker 1: working and blindly and put the blinders on and hopefully 1942 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,840 Speaker 1: when I look up, we like where we are. First 1943 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 1: four years of your NFL career, we're spending Watchington and 1944 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,280 Speaker 1: Washington's coming here in mid season. Does that matter to 1945 01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:45,600 Speaker 1: you to get a chance to go up again your 1946 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 1: role team? It'll matter when when that week comes, And 1947 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, we have so far to go 1948 01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,840 Speaker 1: rustot as a mini camp and training camp and preseason 1949 01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,800 Speaker 1: that that's a long long ways away. But I know 1950 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,160 Speaker 1: that that week could be familiar with some of those 1951 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,840 Speaker 1: guys and friends with some of those guys and played 1952 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,400 Speaker 1: with them for four four years. It'll it'll be an 1953 01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,800 Speaker 1: exciting week for sure, But for me it'll come down 1954 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,680 Speaker 1: and doing my job and we'll celebrate those guys and 1955 01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,960 Speaker 1: hug after the game, but yeah, we'll have business to 1956 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 1: take care of. Where you are right now, OTAs, What 1957 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,640 Speaker 1: do you go into ots looking to OTAs looking to 1958 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,840 Speaker 1: accomplish and how's that coming? What do you hope to 1959 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,240 Speaker 1: get out of these ten sessions. Yeah, I mean I 1960 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,880 Speaker 1: think first we knock the rust off and we find 1961 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,720 Speaker 1: a way to kind of lay a foundation and get 1962 01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,120 Speaker 1: chemistry up front. Know you're working with learn the playbook, 1963 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,120 Speaker 1: and then find something to sharpen, something to get better at, 1964 01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,720 Speaker 1: whether it's a move or your eyes or your hand 1965 01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,400 Speaker 1: placement or something. You got to come out with something. 1966 01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,479 Speaker 1: So every day just kind of pick one thing to 1967 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,160 Speaker 1: work on and whether that's a coaching tip or something 1968 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,640 Speaker 1: you're you're working on yourself, and then then you have 1969 01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,000 Speaker 1: some tools to go into training camp to sharpen kind 1970 01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 1: of even even further. So you came into these OTAs 1971 01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,040 Speaker 1: and you know that most of the free agent signings 1972 01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:58,760 Speaker 1: and all of the draft picks, a lot of the 1973 01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,320 Speaker 1: draft picks at Oliver's side, they're all focused on the 1974 01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,240 Speaker 1: other side of the ball. And you're sitting there, you're 1975 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 1: standing up in a stand up position, watching with your 1976 01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,800 Speaker 1: hand on the ground, watching what's going on the other 1977 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,120 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Can you see a difference, Yeah, 1978 01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: as far as offense or defense. Offense and what those 1979 01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:15,920 Speaker 1: guys on the other side. You know, the offense is 1980 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,559 Speaker 1: looking like you know, you're rushing against different offensive linemen 1981 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,360 Speaker 1: now too. They got nineteen thousand new guys over there. 1982 01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean you're new faces. Yeah, definitely a lot of 1983 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,840 Speaker 1: new faces. They brought in some big boys up front. 1984 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a lot of weight, those five 1985 01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,519 Speaker 1: dudes all together that we got to run through, and 1986 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,840 Speaker 1: it's tough to do without without pad. So there's some 1987 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,880 Speaker 1: tussles and everyone's working together. But some great dudes a 1988 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,000 Speaker 1: play with Spence and tie in Washington, um, and they're 1989 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,800 Speaker 1: all good, smart players. So I'm excited for them to 1990 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:46,760 Speaker 1: learn to work together and excited to see what they 1991 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,880 Speaker 1: can do. We're talking to before anyone on the air 1992 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:50,439 Speaker 1: a year ago when you were on our show and 1993 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,599 Speaker 1: you were looking for a place to buy in Western 1994 01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,040 Speaker 1: New York, and in particular looking for a place with 1995 01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,120 Speaker 1: a suitable room to put your weights in a weight room. Yeah, 1996 01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,200 Speaker 1: you told me you don't then anymore. Right, I don't 1997 01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 1: need that anymore. They outdid me. I can't. I can't 1998 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:08,719 Speaker 1: have they just build. So I'm gonna use our facility 1999 01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:13,400 Speaker 1: here and that's more than I though. Right with forty 2000 01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 1: five pound plates. I got rid of the forty five 2001 01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,280 Speaker 1: pound place from under my bed and put him in store. 2002 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,479 Speaker 1: We're okay now, Trent, thanks for the stay healthy. It's 2003 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,240 Speaker 1: great to have you back. Man. Have a great thank 2004 01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,040 Speaker 1: you off season Trent Murphy, Bill's defensive end Stephen Steph 2005 01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,200 Speaker 1: and I coming back for our number three. When we return, 2006 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,799 Speaker 1: it's One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo 2007 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:48,840 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. The old radio network Stories update comes from 2008 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,600 Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. Another day of OTAs is over in 2009 01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,840 Speaker 1: the books, five down, five to go, and then the 2010 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,240 Speaker 1: Bills get into a three day mandatory mini camp in 2011 01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,519 Speaker 1: the middle of June. Practice ended in the last half 2012 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 1: hour or so. The Bills to have just a conditioning 2013 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,160 Speaker 1: day back in the OTA mode. On Friday, around the league, 2014 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,519 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl quarterback Chris Harris as a new deal with 2015 01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,640 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. He told the Broncos earlier this offseason 2016 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:11,479 Speaker 1: he wanted to be traded if he didn't get a 2017 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,360 Speaker 1: new contract. Last night, the Broncos confirmed at Harris will 2018 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,280 Speaker 1: get twelve million dollars this season. He was scheduled to 2019 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,800 Speaker 1: get nine million. It wasn't the longer term deal that 2020 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,960 Speaker 1: Harris wanted, but it keeps him in the fold with 2021 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,679 Speaker 1: the Broncos for at least another year. NFLPA Executive director 2022 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,320 Speaker 1: DeMar Smith sent a letter to all agents yesterday asking 2023 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,720 Speaker 1: them to encourage their players to save money in the 2024 01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,120 Speaker 1: event of a work stoppage in twenty twenty one. We 2025 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 1: are advising players to plan for a work stoppage of 2026 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,400 Speaker 1: at least a year in length. That letter said, Stanley 2027 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,880 Speaker 1: Cup Finals tonight in his game two Boston Bruins at home. 2028 01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,559 Speaker 1: The Ruins eight o'clock face up tonight in Boston against 2029 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,960 Speaker 1: Saint Louis Boston one game one a couple of nights ago, 2030 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,360 Speaker 1: trying to take a two games to none edge over 2031 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:54,479 Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Blues. Coming up tonight, the Edmonton Oilers 2032 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,120 Speaker 1: have hired a coach, Dave Tippett, the sixteenth head coach 2033 01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,920 Speaker 1: in Edmonton Oiler's history. Previous experience coach the Dallas Stars 2034 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,439 Speaker 1: for eight years and the Phoenix Arizona Coyotes for eight years, 2035 01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,479 Speaker 1: his team's made the playoffs in eight of nine seasons 2036 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 1: during his career. Dave Tippett becomes the sixteenth head coach 2037 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,000 Speaker 1: of the Edmonton Others and the third of Connor mcdavi 2038 01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,800 Speaker 1: it's five year career and the NBA Finals waiting until 2039 01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,160 Speaker 1: tomorrow to get started game one coming up in Toronto, 2040 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,600 Speaker 1: nine pm tipoff, nine o'clock tipoff tomorrow in Toronto, the 2041 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,759 Speaker 1: Raptors at home against Golden State in the NBA Finals. 2042 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,960 Speaker 1: And that's the update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy's 2043 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:32,000 Speaker 1: team tasker. It's One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. Steve, 2044 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,840 Speaker 1: nine o'clock tip. Wow, what's that going to do to 2045 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:39,200 Speaker 1: the killing me the infirm and elderly like us? I 2046 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,640 Speaker 1: was gonna see you, it's gonna look. I want to 2047 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,559 Speaker 1: watch the finals. I've tried to watch playoffs till now. 2048 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,920 Speaker 1: I want to watch the finals. But nine o'clock tipoff 2049 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,200 Speaker 1: means the game ends at what midnight? Twelve fifteen. I'll 2050 01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,960 Speaker 1: be a mess, Steve. I will share me for a 2051 01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,840 Speaker 1: week or two. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'll tell you, 2052 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm with you this. I will say this 2053 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,559 Speaker 1: on behalf of the NBA, which we have no skin 2054 01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,880 Speaker 1: in that game. It's been a really good playoff. Yeah, 2055 01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,519 Speaker 1: it's been a really good year for NBA playoffs. There's 2056 01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,760 Speaker 1: been compelling storylines, there's been great games, there's been absolute 2057 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:19,479 Speaker 1: buzzer beaters. It's been phenomenal, and you got stars on 2058 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,160 Speaker 1: all these teams. That you really want to watch. I 2059 01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,200 Speaker 1: think the NBA for me, and I'm a casual fan, 2060 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,519 Speaker 1: the most casual of fans. I think it's been a 2061 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 1: real boost for their popularity these last this last year 2062 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,920 Speaker 1: of playoff basketball, and doesn't say much for the regular season. 2063 01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:40,560 Speaker 1: But I want to watch it. I probably will watch it, 2064 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,400 Speaker 1: probably exhausted. Hey, we want to get you involved in 2065 01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:46,439 Speaker 1: our Twitter poll. What are your expectations for Josh Allen 2066 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,960 Speaker 1: in his second season? Give us a call, we'll discuss 2067 01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty or toll free one eight 2068 01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,600 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or you can 2069 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,240 Speaker 1: send it a tweet. We would read it on the 2070 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. We got a lot to talk about this hour, 2071 01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,840 Speaker 1: but a lot of time for you to discuss with 2072 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,479 Speaker 1: your expectations for Josh Allen in his second year. What 2073 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,160 Speaker 1: do you think. Let's go to Jim in Lakeview. Hello, Jim, Welcome, 2074 01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,600 Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Yeah, hi, guys. You know, 2075 01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,960 Speaker 1: my expectations for Josh Ellen are that he's gonna be 2076 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,760 Speaker 1: much much better than he was last year. But I'd 2077 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 1: make this point a couple of points even if he 2078 01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:20,679 Speaker 1: plays just as well as he did the last five 2079 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,080 Speaker 1: games of the season last year, that would be good 2080 01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,280 Speaker 1: enough to propel the Bills to a playoff spot. I 2081 01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 1: think people underrate just how good he was. And there's 2082 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,120 Speaker 1: a couple of things that really stood out. I mean, 2083 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:34,000 Speaker 1: everybody knows about the rocket arm, but my goodness, he's 2084 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,120 Speaker 1: got the quickest release I've seen since San Marino. But 2085 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,760 Speaker 1: the more important thing I saw about him and why 2086 01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm so optimistic about his future, is the rare ability 2087 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,360 Speaker 1: of him to elevate the players around him. I look 2088 01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,000 Speaker 1: at Robert Foster, right, Robert Foster was on drafted, was 2089 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,280 Speaker 1: cut by the Bills, put on this practice squad, cut again, 2090 01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 1: and brought back. But by the end of the year 2091 01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,640 Speaker 1: he was one of the top rated receivers in Pro 2092 01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 1: Book Well Focus, averaging over twenty yards a catch. Now, 2093 01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:11,519 Speaker 1: there's two possibilities about that. Everybody overlooked this gem who 2094 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,120 Speaker 1: turns out who turns out to be the second coming 2095 01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,200 Speaker 1: of Julio Jones, or the quarterback really elevated the play 2096 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,880 Speaker 1: of a pretty good player. And I think that speaks 2097 01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:25,439 Speaker 1: volumes or where Josh Allan is going, because I think 2098 01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,560 Speaker 1: it's rare for a quarterback to elevated players like that 2099 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,040 Speaker 1: Brady certainly does. The only thing I would the only 2100 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,600 Speaker 1: nitpick point I would make, I guess you, guys, is 2101 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 1: certainly in the long run, Josh Ellen or any quarterback 2102 01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,400 Speaker 1: has to be rated or has to be evaluated by wins. 2103 01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 1: But in the short term, and I'm not sure that's true. 2104 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,720 Speaker 1: For example, when you look at the last four years, 2105 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 1: he had two Hall of Fame quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers and 2106 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,280 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, who actually played the whole season on teams 2107 01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,680 Speaker 1: that finished less than five hundreds. So you know, if 2108 01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,840 Speaker 1: Josh doesn't have a lot of wins next year and 2109 01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 1: next years, I'm not gonna lay that solely on his shoulder. 2110 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 1: It's a team game, and even Hall of famers can't 2111 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:05,960 Speaker 1: elevate their teams sometimes. But you know, all the futures 2112 01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,760 Speaker 1: bright and I expect great things out of him this 2113 01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,920 Speaker 1: year and many years to come. All right, Thanks Jim. 2114 01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,120 Speaker 1: Jim made a lot of good points, so Steve, including 2115 01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,439 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's last was it six or five games when 2116 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,760 Speaker 1: he came back, six games when he came back after 2117 01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:24,880 Speaker 1: his injury, where he had just ended it up two 2118 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,960 Speaker 1: six seven interceptions against eight touchdowns, so he was he 2119 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,599 Speaker 1: had his head above water touchdown to interception ratio when 2120 01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:35,040 Speaker 1: he came back from injury eight touchdowns, seven interceptions, completion 2121 01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,760 Speaker 1: percentage still around mid fifties at Bessie had the great 2122 01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:39,919 Speaker 1: game at the end of the year been completion percentage 2123 01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,320 Speaker 1: wise against the Dolphins. We've talked about that a lot, 2124 01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,679 Speaker 1: how it was a different approach for him, an approach 2125 01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,640 Speaker 1: that we may see more of this year, you know, 2126 01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,800 Speaker 1: using the checkdown receivers, throwing underneath the coverage. He may 2127 01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,720 Speaker 1: do that more this year. But Jim is right, he 2128 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,240 Speaker 1: got bet and we've said this a lot on the show. 2129 01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 1: Josh got better virtually week to week during the course 2130 01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:59,479 Speaker 1: of last season, which bodes well I think for this year. 2131 01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 1: I agree, And we've had other callers come on and 2132 01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,120 Speaker 1: saying that, you know, you want and we're all trying 2133 01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,479 Speaker 1: to describe this, what's it gonna look like? And you 2134 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,920 Speaker 1: can't do it really with statistics because we can cite others, 2135 01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, the players who had better statistics than that, 2136 01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:13,800 Speaker 1: and they didn't win, you know, and it wasn't the 2137 01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,200 Speaker 1: quarterback when I think I like what he said, you know, 2138 01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,840 Speaker 1: the caller said about him elevating the guys around him. 2139 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 1: There's no doubt that he did. And I've been talking 2140 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:23,720 Speaker 1: about this off and on and during the breaks, drink 2141 01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,720 Speaker 1: all day. Today, I go back to that Miami game. 2142 01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:28,640 Speaker 1: In Miami, we're the last play of the game. We 2143 01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,479 Speaker 1: can't catch that ball on the goal line. If you 2144 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,200 Speaker 1: win that, if you catch that ball, then all of 2145 01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,920 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're seven and nine, right, because that's a win. 2146 01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:38,720 Speaker 1: It's the last play of the game and he's he's 2147 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 1: in the end zone. And there's another highlight that they've 2148 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,200 Speaker 1: been shown back in the control from the some of 2149 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,000 Speaker 1: you've been seeing who are watching on MSG in the 2150 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:49,000 Speaker 1: Houston Texans game down in Houston. It's the game at 2151 01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:50,600 Speaker 1: the end of the game when our defense was on. 2152 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,320 Speaker 1: It's actually a Trent Murphy highlight where he knocks the 2153 01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:59,320 Speaker 1: ball out of Deshaun Watson's hands and it's loose. If 2154 01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,200 Speaker 1: the Bills and there's a little scramble for the ball 2155 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 1: and the Texans get it back. If the Bills cover 2156 01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,320 Speaker 1: that fumble up, that's in the last two minutes the game. 2157 01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,800 Speaker 1: The Bills offense comes up, kneels down, that's a win. 2158 01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,960 Speaker 1: You're two bounces of your two plays away in that 2159 01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:14,200 Speaker 1: season from getting two more wins on a team that 2160 01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:18,280 Speaker 1: was horrific on offense with the worst offensive line in 2161 01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 1: the NFL, with no running game and a defense that 2162 01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,840 Speaker 1: was never playing it against an offense that was absolutely 2163 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,080 Speaker 1: desperate like they were in that Houston game where they 2164 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,040 Speaker 1: almost caused that turnover, which they you know, the kind 2165 01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 1: of play they made two years ago when these other 2166 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,519 Speaker 1: teams had to score some points to try and stay 2167 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,880 Speaker 1: in the game with where they felt compelled to air 2168 01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 1: it out a little bit. This defense was stellar in 2169 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 1: that regard last year. Those two plays put this team 2170 01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:49,240 Speaker 1: from six and ten to eight and eight. That is different, 2171 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,600 Speaker 1: that puts a different shine, But you can't disapplain you 2172 01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,479 Speaker 1: are what you are. You're six and ten. But for me, 2173 01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,280 Speaker 1: that speaks of a team that is not that far 2174 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:02,000 Speaker 1: away and wasn't that far away twelve months ago when 2175 01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:07,040 Speaker 1: they had a bad offense with a rookie quarterback who 2176 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,880 Speaker 1: was just trying to tread water, and certainly he had 2177 01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,680 Speaker 1: a lot of a billion, a lot of upside. But 2178 01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,640 Speaker 1: that's two plays that make this team into an eight 2179 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,840 Speaker 1: and eight squad and had nothing to do with the 2180 01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,240 Speaker 1: starting quarterback where he made the throw that should have 2181 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:22,639 Speaker 1: been caught in the end zone by by Charles Clay 2182 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,120 Speaker 1: and then the one where the defense just missed on 2183 01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:27,880 Speaker 1: a fumble recovery that would have put a game away 2184 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,439 Speaker 1: that they ended up losing in Houston. All of that 2185 01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,640 Speaker 1: stuff's being said, do you know that changes it for 2186 01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people? For me included, because this is 2187 01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,240 Speaker 1: a team that doesn't seem to be that far away 2188 01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:41,960 Speaker 1: from taking another step and another step. If they're that 2189 01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,720 Speaker 1: team that I'm describing a year ago where they're eight 2190 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:46,880 Speaker 1: and eight instead of six and ten and they take 2191 01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,920 Speaker 1: another step, where does that take him for you? Right? Yeah, 2192 01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:54,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't take it to nine and seven. It takes 2193 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 1: you to ten and six, eleven and five, twelve and four. 2194 01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,040 Speaker 1: You're getting yourself right, I mean, that's what you're talking about, 2195 01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,280 Speaker 1: that that's what the league is. You're right, But this 2196 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,519 Speaker 1: is it's the league where the bounce of the ball 2197 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,920 Speaker 1: says a lot about what you are to a lot 2198 01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,360 Speaker 1: of people. When it's the bounce of the ball that 2199 01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,400 Speaker 1: nobody has any control over you or your opponent. So 2200 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,320 Speaker 1: you can make that evaluation if you want, But to me, 2201 01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:23,080 Speaker 1: it's about what you do all the time and about 2202 01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:24,880 Speaker 1: the guys who you know in your locker room and 2203 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,280 Speaker 1: what you're you know what you can control. And I 2204 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:31,120 Speaker 1: think everything in this organization from this new weight room 2205 01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,839 Speaker 1: to the draft, to the way they handle free agency, 2206 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,680 Speaker 1: to the way they handle their contract negotiations, to the 2207 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,840 Speaker 1: way they handle their team building exercises out here, to 2208 01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:44,400 Speaker 1: the staff they have behind the scenes. I can't find 2209 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,479 Speaker 1: anything to throw a dart out right, And I know 2210 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:48,880 Speaker 1: they you know, I know it's not gonna They're not 2211 01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna go sixteen and oz And then you know, Josh 2212 01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,879 Speaker 1: Allen's not gonna throw for five thousand yards fifty touchdowns 2213 01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:55,559 Speaker 1: in twelve hund or seven. It's not going to happen 2214 01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,519 Speaker 1: because yeah, the other teams are on scholarship too. Yeah, 2215 01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:03,200 Speaker 1: but I you and I and part of part of 2216 01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 1: our deal is here's to do this. I'm here to 2217 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, tell you what's right about it. And they're 2218 01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,439 Speaker 1: getting a lot of stuff right, but they still gotta 2219 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,439 Speaker 1: it comes down to proving it. YEA, with a lot 2220 01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,320 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, what was our Twitter poll? What do 2221 01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:16,960 Speaker 1: you what do you lay awake? And I ain't worry 2222 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:18,880 Speaker 1: about remember, Yeah, what keeps you awake at night? Yeah, 2223 01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,639 Speaker 1: that's a good question. It isn't a good question. Stuff 2224 01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:23,920 Speaker 1: we have you want me to go through it now? 2225 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, no, we're talking about Josh. But here's the 2226 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:31,760 Speaker 1: way you're missing. Yeah, it's only because some of the 2227 01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,200 Speaker 1: stuff that got is unproven. It's not because the problems 2228 01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:38,000 Speaker 1: were not addressed. They have addressed virtually naming something has 2229 01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,920 Speaker 1: not been addressed. That's my really, But the question what 2230 01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,280 Speaker 1: has not been Addressing problems and solving problems two different things, right, 2231 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,960 Speaker 1: But that's what they're doing. They've really taken steps towards 2232 01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:51,040 Speaker 1: solving every problem that we were sitting here lamenting through 2233 01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,880 Speaker 1: four months of the season last year. What are your expectation? 2234 01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,360 Speaker 1: I get you. I know you don't have a huge 2235 01:46:56,479 --> 01:47:01,920 Speaker 1: You get me, Murph, And I appreciate that you because 2236 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:03,439 Speaker 1: I went on for a minute there. I'm sorry. You've 2237 01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,280 Speaker 1: got you got John going crazy, Josh Allen, your expectations? 2238 01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:07,760 Speaker 1: What do you have for him in the second year 2239 01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:09,840 Speaker 1: on the line is John? John? Go ahead, you're on 2240 01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,240 Speaker 1: the air with us. Yeah. You know what, I wish 2241 01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:17,680 Speaker 1: the NFL would get rid of that stupid instant replays 2242 01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:22,479 Speaker 1: because the officials they just keep going over and over 2243 01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:26,280 Speaker 1: on the plate. You know, I know I've said that 2244 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,320 Speaker 1: a lot and people laugh. I think it's much more 2245 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,840 Speaker 1: realistic than the tasker rule. But people laugh at me. Well, 2246 01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:33,439 Speaker 1: we both had a call or call in. I was 2247 01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,160 Speaker 1: just gonna say that, Well, go ahead, go ahead, John, 2248 01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:40,200 Speaker 1: finish your point. It's you know, it's a man's game. 2249 01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,960 Speaker 1: It's a brutal sport. Let them play. They hit each other, 2250 01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:48,839 Speaker 1: they bang each other, and the other thing. I'm granting 2251 01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:53,000 Speaker 1: Richie incognito. It's back in the NFL. He signed with 2252 01:47:53,160 --> 01:48:00,360 Speaker 1: the Oakland Writers. A nasty glare. All right, thank John. 2253 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,599 Speaker 1: Here's Mike and West Virginia. He's gonna move on right 2254 01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,559 Speaker 1: in mind, Mike and West Virginia. That's how you get 2255 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:09,400 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Pay attention, believing. And I 2256 01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,320 Speaker 1: heard Steve talking about how the Bills we're only a 2257 01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,280 Speaker 1: couple of bounces away from actually being seventy nine or 2258 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,400 Speaker 1: eight and eight. And one are those points that I 2259 01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,800 Speaker 1: want to refuse, is that we had three games that 2260 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,280 Speaker 1: we could have lost, that we should have lost. We 2261 01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:28,320 Speaker 1: would beat Tennessee by one point. We lose the Jacksonville 2262 01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:31,000 Speaker 1: over the Leonard Fournet and they missed the field though, 2263 01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,120 Speaker 1: and we beat Detroit by a point, so well, how 2264 01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 1: should they have lost? Just because you win by a 2265 01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,800 Speaker 1: point doesn't mean you should have lost. That's a very 2266 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,560 Speaker 1: good point as well, John. But those games could have 2267 01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:45,120 Speaker 1: win either way. That's the league. That's what I was 2268 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,120 Speaker 1: saying to Steve, and that's what I'm gonna say to you, Mike. 2269 01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,120 Speaker 1: That's the league. They're all closed. Here's the thing, and 2270 01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,160 Speaker 1: here's the point, Mike, And see if you can stick 2271 01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:52,320 Speaker 1: with me for this, and then I want you to 2272 01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:56,000 Speaker 1: reply to it. So hang on that it is the league. 2273 01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,479 Speaker 1: But I think like the two bounces that I described 2274 01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,519 Speaker 1: to make this into mega an eight and eight squad, 2275 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,960 Speaker 1: and the two and the three plays or four plays 2276 01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:05,720 Speaker 1: that you describe that could have made this into a 2277 01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:09,360 Speaker 1: one and fifteen team, the truth is in there somewhere. 2278 01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,760 Speaker 1: Where is it? And where do you do you think 2279 01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,680 Speaker 1: they're closer to the eight and eight squad that that 2280 01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,400 Speaker 1: I mentioned, or do you think they're closer to the 2281 01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:20,599 Speaker 1: one and sixteen squad that you describe? My great question, Steve, 2282 01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:22,479 Speaker 1: and I listened to the guys in the afternoon as 2283 01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:25,360 Speaker 1: well as your and what Mike says all the time 2284 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,840 Speaker 1: is that there's not really much difference between a six 2285 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,799 Speaker 1: and ten team and the nine and seventeen who sneaks 2286 01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:35,920 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. I believe that that's true. And so 2287 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's just the bounces man, Like you guys said, 2288 01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:40,640 Speaker 1: that's that's the way the league goes. And thanks for 2289 01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,320 Speaker 1: taking my car. Okay, you bet. I agree with you, Mike. 2290 01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,200 Speaker 1: It is and I'll tell you and this is something 2291 01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,439 Speaker 1: that my old coach, Marv Levey told us when when 2292 01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:50,840 Speaker 1: we're trying to you're in the you know, the dog 2293 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:52,560 Speaker 1: days of training camp, and you're in a in a 2294 01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,400 Speaker 1: season that's going well or well or bad, or you're 2295 01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,439 Speaker 1: in a tough spot, and you're trying to get your 2296 01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,439 Speaker 1: team to do the things right, the details. You're trying 2297 01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,479 Speaker 1: to get them to recommit themselves, and you're trying to 2298 01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,160 Speaker 1: come up big. He said. Listen, he goes to guys, 2299 01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,000 Speaker 1: and he pointed this out twenty five thirty years ago. 2300 01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:12,920 Speaker 1: So listen to the difference between the best teams in 2301 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,200 Speaker 1: the National Football League and the worst teams in the 2302 01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:20,439 Speaker 1: National Football League in total is probably two percent of 2303 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,920 Speaker 1: the one hundred percent of everything these NFL teams do. 2304 01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,320 Speaker 1: There's a two percent difference between the number one team 2305 01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,200 Speaker 1: and the number thirty two team, there's a two percent difference. 2306 01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,920 Speaker 1: But then he said this, He goes listen that two 2307 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,480 Speaker 1: and this is where it gets kind of marv alleviation. 2308 01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:39,679 Speaker 1: He said that two percent is still one hundred percent 2309 01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:42,800 Speaker 1: of the difference. You've got to do that two percent. 2310 01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,799 Speaker 1: You've got to put everything into that. The difference between 2311 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,200 Speaker 1: the best teams and the worst teams. There is a difference, 2312 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,479 Speaker 1: and you've got to make the difference in your two 2313 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,400 Speaker 1: percent to get there. And that means the details. That 2314 01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:56,920 Speaker 1: means the bounce of the ball. That means the hand 2315 01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,200 Speaker 1: position on a pass play, that means an extra be 2316 01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:03,000 Speaker 1: an extra step on a pass route. It means all 2317 01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:07,960 Speaker 1: those billions of details that you're responsible for within your job, 2318 01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:11,200 Speaker 1: and you trust that your teammate is they're doing his 2319 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,439 Speaker 1: and you're helping him and he's helping you. There's just 2320 01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:16,840 Speaker 1: not that much difference. And that was that, guess the 2321 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,519 Speaker 1: point we were headed down with this bounce of the 2322 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,559 Speaker 1: ball making him eight and eight instead of six and ten, 2323 01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:22,920 Speaker 1: and a couple of other bounces, a missfield goal here, 2324 01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:27,000 Speaker 1: a missfield goal there, and now they're two and fourteen, 2325 01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,920 Speaker 1: they're one and fifteen or three and thirteen instead of 2326 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,160 Speaker 1: six and ten. It's just not that big a difference, 2327 01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,760 Speaker 1: but the difference is there, and I think a lot 2328 01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:42,280 Speaker 1: of the differences are systemic. They're organizational, they're mindset oriented, 2329 01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:45,400 Speaker 1: not just the fact that one guy makes a drop 2330 01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,120 Speaker 1: here or a pass there. We're talking about John Shannon 2331 01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:50,600 Speaker 1: today and we want to hear from you. What are 2332 01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:53,920 Speaker 1: your expectations for Josh going into his second season in 2333 01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:55,600 Speaker 1: the league. Let's get back to the tweet sheet for 2334 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,559 Speaker 1: a minute. Tweet sheet brought to you by Carrigan Moving Systems, 2335 01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,639 Speaker 1: the official movers the Buffalo Bills. From the tweet sheet 2336 01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:04,680 Speaker 1: from Bernie, I expect he'll be much better than last year. 2337 01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:07,360 Speaker 1: He'll get more protection from the offensive line that will 2338 01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,479 Speaker 1: translate into better decisions. With shady back in form plus 2339 01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,320 Speaker 1: new wide receiver talent, the opposing defenses will have to 2340 01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:15,840 Speaker 1: respect the entire Bill's offense. That's a really good point 2341 01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,800 Speaker 1: by Bernie. Something that you know. We put up the 2342 01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:21,679 Speaker 1: stats for all the prominent younger quarterbacks in their second 2343 01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,960 Speaker 1: year and talked about how would Josh compared to this. Yeah, 2344 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,160 Speaker 1: that stat there you might see if you're watching on MSG. 2345 01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 1: The one thing that stat doesn't show, doesn't measure is 2346 01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,280 Speaker 1: who they playing with. Did they get better? Did they 2347 01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,519 Speaker 1: get different personnel? Better personnel? In the quarterback second year, 2348 01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,439 Speaker 1: you could argue, I think pretty convincingly as Bernie did 2349 01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:41,559 Speaker 1: that now Josh Allen has gonna have a better offensive line, 2350 01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna have a better wide receiver talent, much better 2351 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver talent than he had a year ago. And 2352 01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,240 Speaker 1: that is not measured when you look at those five 2353 01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,360 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks second year in the league. And that's gonna 2354 01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,200 Speaker 1: make a difference the people around him. For Josh, I 2355 01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:56,000 Speaker 1: think it's gonna make a big difference for him. I 2356 01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,000 Speaker 1: think so too. And I think one of the things 2357 01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,479 Speaker 1: also that was in Bernie's tweet was the fact that 2358 01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,760 Speaker 1: Leshawn h you know, Shady's back in form. I don't 2359 01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,000 Speaker 1: think it's just It's not just about Leshaw McCoy being 2360 01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:09,320 Speaker 1: back in form. I think it's Leshaun McCoy and Frank 2361 01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:13,120 Speaker 1: Gore having something left in the tank and maybe something 2362 01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,240 Speaker 1: to prove. I think you gotta think about it, Leshawn McCoy, 2363 01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:19,880 Speaker 1: think about what he has seen people say about and 2364 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,240 Speaker 1: heard people say about him all this offseason. He's finished, 2365 01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:26,000 Speaker 1: he didn't have it. He's not he doesn't have anything 2366 01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,280 Speaker 1: left in the tank. Um, he's over the hill. He's overpaid. 2367 01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,160 Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of articles on the internet saying, hey, 2368 01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,880 Speaker 1: the Bills should trade Leshaun McCoy, he's you know, should 2369 01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,960 Speaker 1: get something for him, and then they hire Frank Gore, who, 2370 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,400 Speaker 1: by the way, that the two guys are pretty good buddies. 2371 01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,560 Speaker 1: I think Lashawn McCoy's got as big a chip on 2372 01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,200 Speaker 1: it should have as big a chip on his shoulders 2373 01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:49,960 Speaker 1: anybody on the roster. He's the one that's got something 2374 01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,000 Speaker 1: to prove to people who about the kind of back 2375 01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:56,720 Speaker 1: he is and about what what last year was. It 2376 01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,160 Speaker 1: wasn't about him, It's about everybody around him. It's about 2377 01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,240 Speaker 1: the offensive line be getting some help. I think he's 2378 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:03,880 Speaker 1: going to have a chip on his shoulder as well. 2379 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,840 Speaker 1: And don't forget this either. This is a guy that 2380 01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,439 Speaker 1: has I think he has real aspirations of getting to 2381 01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:14,560 Speaker 1: the twelve thousand yard mark in his career, and he 2382 01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:16,080 Speaker 1: needs a lot of help to do it because it 2383 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,120 Speaker 1: means something for a future, for the Hall of Fame, 2384 01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:21,280 Speaker 1: for his legacy as a professional football player, and for 2385 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:23,200 Speaker 1: what he did here in Buffalo. I think he's got 2386 01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,000 Speaker 1: a huge chip on his shoulder and something to prove, 2387 01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:27,519 Speaker 1: and I think that's a good place for Bill's fans 2388 01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:29,959 Speaker 1: to think about him being in. I continue this discussion 2389 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:33,600 Speaker 1: your expectations for Josh Allen in his second season sending 2390 01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,360 Speaker 1: a tweet. We may read it on the tweet sheet 2391 01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,600 Speaker 1: or give us a call eight oh three five fifty 2392 01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,520 Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two 2393 01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:42,880 Speaker 1: five fifty. Hey, it's this Sunday now coming up. The 2394 01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:46,760 Speaker 1: Micah Hide Charity softball game builds offense versus Bill's defense, 2395 01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:50,040 Speaker 1: salan Field, Downtown Buffalo. 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Things get underway 2405 01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,440 Speaker 1: at twelve noon at Sailing Field Downtown. Steve and I 2406 01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:25,680 Speaker 1: breaking here back with more. Give us a call. One 2407 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,480 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. 2408 01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:41,720 Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, One Bills Live. 2409 01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:43,760 Speaker 1: And now we're short on time, so let's get into 2410 01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,840 Speaker 1: some stuff here, including our topic of the day, which 2411 01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:49,040 Speaker 1: has taken off like a rocket. What are your expectations 2412 01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,720 Speaker 1: for Josh Allen in his sophomore season sending a tweet? 2413 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,720 Speaker 1: We might read it on the tweet sheet. Give us 2414 01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:55,640 Speaker 1: a call. We think we got the phones working now 2415 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:58,440 Speaker 1: eight h three oh five fifty or outside Buffalo toll 2416 01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:02,040 Speaker 1: free at one eight eight eight fifty two fifty. We'll 2417 01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:03,280 Speaker 1: get back to that in a moment. See if I 2418 01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:06,040 Speaker 1: want to talk Richie incognito. We talked about that yesterday. 2419 01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:08,680 Speaker 1: We both agreed yesterday how good we felt about Richie 2420 01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:11,200 Speaker 1: getting a second chance. Right we do? And Pete Prisco 2421 01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,320 Speaker 1: mentioned it too. He could be a fit for what 2422 01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,640 Speaker 1: they're doing out there in Oakland. Did you see the tweet? 2423 01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,000 Speaker 1: You may have put it on my desk, or maybe 2424 01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:19,800 Speaker 1: our producer Jade. Somebody had a tweet about they think 2425 01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:23,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders have signed Richie Incognito just for the training camp, 2426 01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:27,160 Speaker 1: just to toughen up the Oakland Raiders offensive lines. Kim 2427 01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,480 Speaker 1: a little spice and training. Richie can play. He's not 2428 01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:33,800 Speaker 1: just a thug. Even when Prisco said, Richie after the 2429 01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:35,960 Speaker 1: snap is fun to watch, you know what, Richie during 2430 01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:37,720 Speaker 1: the play was fun to watch. He had three good 2431 01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:40,320 Speaker 1: years here, three Pro Bowl years here with the Buffalo Bills. 2432 01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:41,760 Speaker 1: He was a pretty good offense. It's a very good 2433 01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:45,400 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And I think it remains to me seeing 2434 01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:46,920 Speaker 1: if he's got some stuff left in the tank he 2435 01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,320 Speaker 1: comes back and plays like he did, then there's absolutely 2436 01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,080 Speaker 1: no question the Raiders are gonna be better for that, 2437 01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:55,000 Speaker 1: because the guy could play. When he was on here, 2438 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:57,760 Speaker 1: he was don't forget it was. He was very well 2439 01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:59,960 Speaker 1: liked in this locker room, despite what happened to him 2440 01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:04,120 Speaker 1: in Miami. But there's no question he's got some demons. 2441 01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:05,600 Speaker 1: He has to deal with it. He deals with all 2442 01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,320 Speaker 1: the time, mental health issues when he goes off the 2443 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:10,800 Speaker 1: rails once in a while. And I think the structure 2444 01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,760 Speaker 1: of being on a team, at least the one here 2445 01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:15,840 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and the culture they were trying to build 2446 01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,840 Speaker 1: there when Richie was here kept him on the straight 2447 01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:21,800 Speaker 1: and narrow. They helped him a lot. I think that 2448 01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:24,120 Speaker 1: the atmosphere and the work ethic here. I don't know 2449 01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,920 Speaker 1: how it is in Oakland. You got guys like Vontz 2450 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,400 Speaker 1: Berfect out there, you got Antonio Brown out there. I 2451 01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,960 Speaker 1: don't know that the same culture is already built there 2452 01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:34,520 Speaker 1: that it is here, or even if they're trying to 2453 01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:36,520 Speaker 1: build that there. But I know that that's one of 2454 01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:38,480 Speaker 1: the things that allowed Richie to play as well as 2455 01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:41,640 Speaker 1: he did, was the locker room that existed here. And 2456 01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, you hope for like you, I hope the 2457 01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,480 Speaker 1: best for the guy. Mike Mayock is the new Raiders, 2458 01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,320 Speaker 1: a general manager, the guy who actually acted and signed 2459 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:52,840 Speaker 1: Richie Incognito yesterday to the Raiders roster, and he was asked, 2460 01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:56,120 Speaker 1: why take a chance on Richie Incognito with his background. 2461 01:57:56,320 --> 01:58:01,120 Speaker 1: Here's what the Raiders to him. Mike Mayock said, whenever 2462 01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:04,200 Speaker 1: he's been focused on activities solely on the field, he's 2463 01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:07,960 Speaker 1: been fine, and we've done a one year prove it 2464 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,200 Speaker 1: deal with him and prove it means both on and 2465 01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,560 Speaker 1: off the field. Okay, there's some expectations he's got to 2466 01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,040 Speaker 1: meet in both areas. He turns thirty six in July. 2467 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:18,800 Speaker 1: We think he's going to be a good football player 2468 01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,040 Speaker 1: and allow us allow himself to compete for the left 2469 01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,520 Speaker 1: guard job. And just as importantly, he's got to prove 2470 01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:27,680 Speaker 1: it off the field. What assurances did you get from 2471 01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,440 Speaker 1: him or his agent ahead of time that he would 2472 01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,320 Speaker 1: be able to prove on this, that he would be 2473 01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:34,360 Speaker 1: able to be able to prove himself on and off 2474 01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,680 Speaker 1: the field. Well, we've done a lot of homework on him, Okay. 2475 01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:40,960 Speaker 1: I've known some of the line coaches he's played for 2476 01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,600 Speaker 1: several of his stops. I've called several people around the league. 2477 01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:48,600 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable that he's going to compete on the field, 2478 01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:52,440 Speaker 1: and I feel comfortable that a he wants to compete 2479 01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:55,400 Speaker 1: off the field, and we're going to provide the infrastructure 2480 01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:57,480 Speaker 1: for him. So at the end of the day, I 2481 01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:59,040 Speaker 1: think it's a two way street. We got to help 2482 01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:01,680 Speaker 1: him help himself. Man I answered that the best. I 2483 01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:05,240 Speaker 1: don't get that question. What assurances have you received? What 2484 01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:07,200 Speaker 1: difference does that mean? Of course, the agent is going 2485 01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:10,120 Speaker 1: to say, we we assure you Richie is fine, He's 2486 01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,160 Speaker 1: not going to act up right, and I think he 2487 01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:14,320 Speaker 1: probably is going to be fine. But what DIFA does 2488 01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:15,720 Speaker 1: it make? How many assurance you canna have all the 2489 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:19,960 Speaker 1: assurances you want? Right, people do stuff. Yeah, and Richie, 2490 01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:21,560 Speaker 1: I think we'll be able to handle this because he 2491 01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:23,320 Speaker 1: has in the past. He did it here. He was 2492 01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,760 Speaker 1: in much more dire straits when he signed here four 2493 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:28,440 Speaker 1: years ago. Right coming up, nobody want off the field, 2494 01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,760 Speaker 1: nobody wanted to touch him. Nobody wanted to touch him. 2495 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:34,520 Speaker 1: And because of the bullying scandal that happened in Miami, 2496 01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:39,520 Speaker 1: and it's it's funny, not funny, it's tragic. Actually, I'm 2497 01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,440 Speaker 1: not saying funny funny, haha, I'm saying funny kind of strange. 2498 01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:46,880 Speaker 1: It was tragic what happened in Miami because even Jonathan 2499 01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:49,480 Speaker 1: Martin and subsequent has had issues as well. So you 2500 01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:52,280 Speaker 1: got two guys with that kind of issues at a 2501 01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:55,080 Speaker 1: conflict in that locker room and it blew up in 2502 01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:59,200 Speaker 1: their face. And rightfully, so nobody can anticipate that. I 2503 01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,000 Speaker 1: had never seen something like that before in the NFL, 2504 02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,360 Speaker 1: and yet there it was, and it blew up in Miami. 2505 02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,120 Speaker 1: I think ultimately it cost Joe Philbin the head coaching 2506 02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:11,080 Speaker 1: job there in Miami was in a contributing factor, and 2507 02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Richie Incognito was out of football for a year and 2508 02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:16,920 Speaker 1: a half. Jonathan Martin has yet to play anywhere he's done. 2509 02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:21,320 Speaker 1: So it was two guys with some issues coming together 2510 02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:25,440 Speaker 1: in a conflict that still, I think to this day 2511 02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:28,120 Speaker 1: affects the perception about both of them. Yep, Hey, back 2512 02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:30,280 Speaker 1: to our topic of the day. Josh Allen after his 2513 02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:34,000 Speaker 1: remarkable OTA performance yesterday that neither one of us saw, 2514 02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:37,920 Speaker 1: we were told about, we were told I've been told no, 2515 02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean it was otash and we've talked about that 2516 02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:42,240 Speaker 1: a lot. Kind of took us to our topic of 2517 02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:45,320 Speaker 1: the day. Your expectations for Josh Allen in his second season. 2518 02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Jim is on the line with the thought on that 2519 02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Jim go ahead his buffalo, Jeff, yes, bangor yes there 2520 02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:57,240 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm obviously against the 2521 02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:00,960 Speaker 1: enemy up here, and I've been following you guys for 2522 02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:04,840 Speaker 1: a while, and I really think Josh Allen gotta pump 2523 02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the brakes a little because there's gonna be tape on 2524 02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:10,040 Speaker 1: him now. And you got this evil coach up here 2525 02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:15,200 Speaker 1: in New England and watch tape and change the way 2526 02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:18,080 Speaker 1: people act on the field just by watching so much 2527 02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:22,720 Speaker 1: tape on him. Obviously, the offensive line is gonna be 2528 02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I think the biggest factor. You go back three years ago, 2529 02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:30,640 Speaker 1: put the names of the offensive line, and then you 2530 02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:32,520 Speaker 1: go last year and put the names and see what 2531 02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:35,000 Speaker 1: the difference is. Now, let's see what this year is 2532 02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:38,000 Speaker 1: gonna be and what teck the line so he can 2533 02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:44,320 Speaker 1: use all the the arsenal that he's gonna have time 2534 02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:46,960 Speaker 1: in the pocket. Yeah, it doesn't mean much for him 2535 02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,640 Speaker 1: because he's got some legs. But we know what happens 2536 02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:52,480 Speaker 1: when you use those legs too much, too long. He's 2537 02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna be put You know, he could, he could get injured, 2538 02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:59,480 Speaker 1: and we don't want that. So he's gotta play smart 2539 02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:05,280 Speaker 1: to be able to bring along an offensive line like 2540 02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Kelly did. That office is the line. They've met, they 2541 02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:12,560 Speaker 1: ate together, they did things together. You know, you gotta 2542 02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:16,440 Speaker 1: have a commodities that I think you're gonna have with 2543 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:20,200 Speaker 1: these new people coming in. I'm attempted. All right, we'll 2544 02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:21,360 Speaker 1: let you go. I won't do it. We had a 2545 02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:26,880 Speaker 1: discussion about the word camaraderie here a week ago, right, Yes, 2546 02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,840 Speaker 1: well you had the discussion. I went to the wall 2547 02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,320 Speaker 1: right on how to spell it right, and I was right, 2548 02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:33,960 Speaker 1: and what it meant not Steve and I. We're not 2549 02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:37,880 Speaker 1: fighting about camaraderie. We have we have camaraderie exactly so. 2550 02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:42,760 Speaker 1: But the caller was right, um, you need you want 2551 02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:45,600 Speaker 1: to pump the brakes, you know, and me especially you 2552 02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,520 Speaker 1: and I kind of laugh at me, and rightfully so, 2553 02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:54,520 Speaker 1: because I am some days I am unbelievably optimist. Is yeah, 2554 02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:57,000 Speaker 1: some days I kind of go off the rails, thinking, man, 2555 02:02:57,080 --> 02:03:00,880 Speaker 1: there's no stopping its um, And then you know, other 2556 02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:06,640 Speaker 1: days I'm only slightly less realistic, slightly more realistic, but 2557 02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:09,320 Speaker 1: I think. And Jim, by the way, thanks for calling 2558 02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:12,160 Speaker 1: from banger Manier and Pilgrim and and Unholy Land obviously, 2559 02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:15,720 Speaker 1: but that's right. Josh Allen is going to have some 2560 02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,400 Speaker 1: people preparing to stop Josh Allen. They're not going to 2561 02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:21,840 Speaker 1: prepare to stop Josh Allen slash Nathan Peterman or slash 2562 02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Derek Anderson or Josh slash Matt Barkley or whoever else 2563 02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:28,520 Speaker 1: intended to be there. They're gonna watch him, and they're 2564 02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna know what he can do and can't do. The 2565 02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:34,120 Speaker 1: issue is gonna be and I think this too, a 2566 02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:36,680 Speaker 1: little bit of it's gonna be a little early season success. 2567 02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:40,640 Speaker 1: I think the Bills, you'd like to see them jump out. 2568 02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,800 Speaker 1: You'd like to see him beat the Jets on opening day, obviously, 2569 02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:45,320 Speaker 1: and go back to the same building and beat a 2570 02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Giant's team that is in rebuild mode a little bit. 2571 02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,000 Speaker 1: You'd like to see him get off to a fast start. 2572 02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:52,960 Speaker 1: But what happens when you start doing that is you 2573 02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:55,880 Speaker 1: start telling people who you are, and as soon as 2574 02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,120 Speaker 1: the NFL finds out who you are and what you do, 2575 02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:00,840 Speaker 1: they will make sure that you have to beat him 2576 02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:04,400 Speaker 1: being somebody else you gotta be. You gotta beat him 2577 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:07,000 Speaker 1: left handed, because they're gonna take your strong hand away. 2578 02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna take what you do best away. And that's 2579 02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:11,760 Speaker 1: when it's really gonna get tough for this team. I 2580 02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:14,160 Speaker 1: don't this team and this staff doesn't even know what 2581 02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:17,600 Speaker 1: they have yet. And other teams are in the same boat. 2582 02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:20,240 Speaker 1: But as the season progresses, it's going to be more 2583 02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:23,240 Speaker 1: and more difficult to be successful. But as we've said, 2584 02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:25,960 Speaker 1: he's going to have better people around him, more people 2585 02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:29,080 Speaker 1: helping him. He's gonna have more preparation under his belt 2586 02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:32,960 Speaker 1: than he did before, so a lot of question marks remain. 2587 02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:35,880 Speaker 1: But when you talk about what Josh is gonna look 2588 02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:37,760 Speaker 1: like like Jim the caller was trying to do there 2589 02:04:38,120 --> 02:04:40,480 Speaker 1: what it's going to look like, it's easier to describe 2590 02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:43,480 Speaker 1: it rather than to put a statistic on it. You 2591 02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:45,680 Speaker 1: want it to look and feel like. This is a 2592 02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:48,280 Speaker 1: guy that other teams are really worried about beating them. 2593 02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:50,760 Speaker 1: Hey tign Down for NFL True and False brought to 2594 02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,640 Speaker 1: you by Yancy's Fancy New York's artist in chiefe A 2595 02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:57,520 Speaker 1: couple of interesting questions. Andy Dalton Bengals starting quarterback Andy 2596 02:04:57,600 --> 02:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Dalton will have a career year under a new head coach, 2597 02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor. That's what Adam Shine from CBS Sports predicts. 2598 02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:06,320 Speaker 1: A career year Zach Taylor on the offensive side of 2599 02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:09,240 Speaker 1: the ball, first time Dalton's had a real offensive minded 2600 02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:12,120 Speaker 1: coach right after Marvin Louis several years. I also think 2601 02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:15,040 Speaker 1: don't underestimate the impact that our buddy Alex van Pelt 2602 02:05:15,080 --> 02:05:18,680 Speaker 1: will have on Andy Dalton. But a career year, maybe 2603 02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,800 Speaker 1: a winning successful the year for Andy Dalton, who you know, 2604 02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:23,320 Speaker 1: it was just in town two weeks ago. I had 2605 02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:26,640 Speaker 1: a great time, great guy. I don't know. I'm gonna 2606 02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:28,000 Speaker 1: go false on this. I don't think it will be 2607 02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:30,760 Speaker 1: viewed as a career year, even though he will benefit 2608 02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:35,120 Speaker 1: from the coaching hopet Well. His greatest career was forty 2609 02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:40,400 Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety three yards, thirty three touchdowns, twenty interceptions. 2610 02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:42,920 Speaker 1: That was in two thousand and thirteen, his third year 2611 02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:49,160 Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, because you're not talking about Dan 2612 02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:52,120 Speaker 1: Marino having a career year throwing for fifty two hundred yards. 2613 02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:53,720 Speaker 1: You're talking about a guy with a new head coach 2614 02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:58,040 Speaker 1: and offensive minded coach, a healthy AJ Green, a guy 2615 02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:00,640 Speaker 1: that could if he throws for forty one two hundred 2616 02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:05,600 Speaker 1: yards and cuts his touchdown to interception ratio improves that 2617 02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:07,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, that is a career year, and I 2618 02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:10,680 Speaker 1: think that's well within his reach. I think that's well 2619 02:06:10,720 --> 02:06:12,480 Speaker 1: within his reach. So I'm gonna say true to this. 2620 02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,280 Speaker 1: I think Andy Dalton is gonna play much better this 2621 02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:17,680 Speaker 1: year than he has in the past few years under 2622 02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:21,400 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis. Remember, don't forget Marvin Lewis was a head 2623 02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:24,480 Speaker 1: coach that there was there was signs that him maybe 2624 02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:26,560 Speaker 1: not being there for very much longer, and it you know, 2625 02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:29,200 Speaker 1: I think whenever that happens, I think that changes the 2626 02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:31,240 Speaker 1: dynamic in the locker room. I think that's a detriment 2627 02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,720 Speaker 1: to the team and therefore detriment to Dalton and his 2628 02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:37,760 Speaker 1: ability to be successful offensively. You got Zach Taylor, offensive 2629 02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:40,720 Speaker 1: minded head coach. Yeah, I think that's exactly where Andy 2630 02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:42,160 Speaker 1: Dalton's head. I think he's going to have one of 2631 02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:44,760 Speaker 1: the best years of his career this year. NFL True 2632 02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:48,880 Speaker 1: or False Part two. This one is just bizarre. This 2633 02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,280 Speaker 1: kind of double tuck you get deep in the offseason. 2634 02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:55,720 Speaker 1: The Patriots will benefit from the Ben Watson suspension. He's 2635 02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:59,760 Speaker 1: out four games, right with the performance enhancing drug suspension. 2636 02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:03,640 Speaker 1: Former Dolphins executive Mike Tannenbaum, now an executive, now an 2637 02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:07,480 Speaker 1: analyst with ESPN thinks the reigning Super Bowl champion Patriots 2638 02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:10,640 Speaker 1: could actually benefit from losing him for four games. It 2639 02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:14,280 Speaker 1: gives them roster flexibility. Tannebomb said yesterday he won't be 2640 02:07:14,320 --> 02:07:16,720 Speaker 1: on the roster opening day, and therefore his contract won't 2641 02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:19,080 Speaker 1: be guaranteed. They only gave him six hundred thousand dollars, 2642 02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:21,360 Speaker 1: so between now and the fifth Game of the Year. 2643 02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:24,160 Speaker 1: If another option presents itself, they can simply move on 2644 02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:27,160 Speaker 1: from Watson and not reinstate him after Week four. Obviously 2645 02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:30,160 Speaker 1: this was bad news, but this actually creates some flexibility 2646 02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:33,320 Speaker 1: for them. False. It's not good. It's not good. The 2647 02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:36,520 Speaker 1: Patriots have you know, they lost Gronkowski, they have questions 2648 02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:38,680 Speaker 1: at tight end. Not having Ben Watson for four weeks 2649 02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:41,480 Speaker 1: is not a benefit. It's a deficit. False. I don't 2650 02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:44,400 Speaker 1: care how you look at the contracts. That's crazy talk. 2651 02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:49,760 Speaker 1: It is right, Mike Tannenbaum's posturing for a job. From 2652 02:07:49,800 --> 02:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Mike Tannenba. They're paying him six hundred grand. They're only 2653 02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna pay him four hundred and fifty because that four 2654 02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:56,120 Speaker 1: you divide. You know that the twenty five percent of 2655 02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,120 Speaker 1: his paycheck because salary is not going to get paid 2656 02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,400 Speaker 1: to him because he's suspended for four games twenty five 2657 02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:04,120 Speaker 1: percent of the season. They need him. They signed him. 2658 02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:09,160 Speaker 1: He's thirty eight. I mean at a tight end, he's ancient. 2659 02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,200 Speaker 1: They need all the guys they can get now. Certainly, 2660 02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:15,280 Speaker 1: if he comes back and he can't play because he 2661 02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:19,200 Speaker 1: is old that, you know that doesn't help him getting 2662 02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:21,320 Speaker 1: him back because he's not gonna but they need him. 2663 02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,000 Speaker 1: They need all the guys they can get, So no, 2664 02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:25,880 Speaker 1: this doesn't help them. They need to And even so 2665 02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:28,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna hang on to him through this suspension and 2666 02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,760 Speaker 1: come back and then find out he can't play. In 2667 02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:35,560 Speaker 1: no way, shape or form. Does this make them benefit 2668 02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:38,280 Speaker 1: them by his suspension? Finally, NFL true or false? This 2669 02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:41,920 Speaker 1: came from USA today their touchdown wire dot com. The XFL, 2670 02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,280 Speaker 1: the new XFL coming up next year, should start planning 2671 02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:47,640 Speaker 1: now for an NFL work stoppage. I'm gonna go false 2672 02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:50,320 Speaker 1: on this. Look, go about your business, XFL. You seem 2673 02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:52,520 Speaker 1: to have a good business plan, unlike the alliance which 2674 02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:54,840 Speaker 1: folded up in the middle of their year. There may 2675 02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:57,000 Speaker 1: be a work stoppage, there may not, but just go 2676 02:08:57,080 --> 02:09:00,120 Speaker 1: about your business. Do what you're doing. Oliver Luck talk 2677 02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:02,080 Speaker 1: him at the Super Bowl. Seems to have his head 2678 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,360 Speaker 1: in the right place. They're getting great backing from the 2679 02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:07,960 Speaker 1: wrestling guy. What's his name, you know, h Vince mcmannon. Yeah, right, 2680 02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Just do go about your business and be ready to play. 2681 02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Don't worry about a possible NFL work stoppage. I'm gonna 2682 02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:16,160 Speaker 1: say true only because of this. Certainly, if there's any 2683 02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:18,080 Speaker 1: benefit to be had, you've got to exploit it. You 2684 02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:20,680 Speaker 1: you need to leave no stone unturned if you want 2685 02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:23,760 Speaker 1: your league to work where half a dozen other entire 2686 02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:28,040 Speaker 1: leagues and millions and millions of hundreds of million dollars 2687 02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:30,600 Speaker 1: have been blown trying to get an alternate league up 2688 02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:32,960 Speaker 1: to go to the NFL. You've got to take every 2689 02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:36,280 Speaker 1: opportunity to expand that market and get a foot in 2690 02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:40,560 Speaker 1: the door that is sustainable long term. But if you 2691 02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:45,160 Speaker 1: think for one minute that you're gonna supplant the NFL, 2692 02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:47,960 Speaker 1: or that the NFL is gonna die and go away 2693 02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:53,040 Speaker 1: because of a work stoppage, you are high. The NFL 2694 02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:56,000 Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere. They're gonna be there. And if, but 2695 02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:58,040 Speaker 1: if there is a gap there that you can fill 2696 02:09:58,120 --> 02:09:59,920 Speaker 1: and get some benefit for your league to do it, 2697 02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:02,600 Speaker 1: you've got to explore every opportunity to do that. So, yeah, 2698 02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,240 Speaker 1: do prepare in case there is a workstoppage, But don't 2699 02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:07,440 Speaker 1: think you're going to replace the NFL or in some way, 2700 02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:09,960 Speaker 1: shape or form. The NFL's gonna go away and give 2701 02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:11,960 Speaker 1: you an open window for very long to do it. 2702 02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:14,440 Speaker 1: If you can get some benefit, take it in any way, 2703 02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:16,560 Speaker 1: shape or form you can, but you know this, that 2704 02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:18,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred pound guerrilla is going to come sauntering back 2705 02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:20,280 Speaker 1: into the room in a minute, and it's going to 2706 02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:24,360 Speaker 1: pound you like a tent steak. So you got to 2707 02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:26,920 Speaker 1: take every advantage you can to survive it. NFL True 2708 02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:29,560 Speaker 1: and False brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's 2709 02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:31,360 Speaker 1: Hardist and Chief Steph and I coming back to wrap 2710 02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:33,800 Speaker 1: things up. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This 2711 02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:51,680 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Okay, what do we learn? Presented 2712 02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,880 Speaker 1: by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes and businesses 2713 02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:57,440 Speaker 1: with the finest and security in a home theater the 2714 02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:00,280 Speaker 1: preferred alarm a home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. 2715 02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:02,400 Speaker 1: What do we learned? Chris Brown was here the first 2716 02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:04,560 Speaker 1: segment of the show. Chris Brown Bills inside of Buffalo 2717 02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:07,120 Speaker 1: Bills dot Com, talked about the topic of the day. 2718 02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:10,440 Speaker 1: His expectations were Josh Allen in his second season with Buffalo. 2719 02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:15,880 Speaker 1: I guess what I was saying initially to myself was 2720 02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I hope he can take the next step improve his 2721 02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:23,040 Speaker 1: short to intermediate passing game, improve his ball location so 2722 02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:25,760 Speaker 1: as completion percentage can be up closer to fifty eight 2723 02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:28,800 Speaker 1: to sixty percent instead of fifty two percent. Those were 2724 02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:31,760 Speaker 1: my hopes for him. Now, after seeing him here in 2725 02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:36,120 Speaker 1: OTA's and watching the way he's operated, I'm confident he 2726 02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:39,320 Speaker 1: can do those things. So I've gone from hoping to 2727 02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:43,400 Speaker 1: being pretty convinced that, you know, provided the offense stays 2728 02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:45,800 Speaker 1: healthy and the right people are in place, that he 2729 02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:48,120 Speaker 1: can take the next step. It's not a hope anymore. 2730 02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:51,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of a more of a when than an if. 2731 02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:54,560 Speaker 1: Chris Brown on Josh Allen. Also today, Pete Frisco joined 2732 02:11:54,640 --> 02:11:58,200 Speaker 1: us from CBS Sports dot Com. Pete Frisco said, it's 2733 02:11:58,360 --> 02:12:01,080 Speaker 1: very apparent that Bills players think a great deal about 2734 02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:04,960 Speaker 1: their head coach Sean McDermott. Here's what he said. One 2735 02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:07,040 Speaker 1: thing that stamps out about the Buffalo Bills to be 2736 02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,200 Speaker 1: watching them on DAYE, but you're watching him the first 2737 02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:13,920 Speaker 1: two years Sean McDermott's tenure there. They play hard. You 2738 02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:17,280 Speaker 1: can tell that they respect their coach and he gets 2739 02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:19,320 Speaker 1: the best out of him. You know, sometimes you wonder 2740 02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:21,040 Speaker 1: when you watching the game and you go, oh boy, 2741 02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:23,600 Speaker 1: the team doesn't play that hard. I don't know how 2742 02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:25,480 Speaker 1: they feel about their coach. But you can tell when 2743 02:12:25,480 --> 02:12:28,520 Speaker 1: you watch the Buffalo Bill they have nothing but respect 2744 02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:30,880 Speaker 1: for their head coach and they played for him. Okay, 2745 02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Critico sounded like Bills fan today when he was on this, 2746 02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:35,720 Speaker 1: didn't a little bit or Our guests tend to do 2747 02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:37,680 Speaker 1: that when they come on One Bill's Live. You know, 2748 02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:41,080 Speaker 1: they kind of they kind of even even the critics 2749 02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:45,240 Speaker 1: kind of temper their criticism. Intimidate them. Ah yeah, you 2750 02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:49,160 Speaker 1: intimidate them. That's why Prowley. Yeah, right, we had a 2751 02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:50,880 Speaker 1: good show. It was good to get you know again. 2752 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,120 Speaker 1: A lot of our discussion today was came as a 2753 02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:58,560 Speaker 1: result of the reports on Josh Allen's day yesterday. One practice, 2754 02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:02,480 Speaker 1: one OTA practice, the only one opened this week and 2755 02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:05,040 Speaker 1: the only one the second one open during the OTAs, 2756 02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:06,720 Speaker 1: and he threw it well, he throws it well a lot. 2757 02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:08,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I just didn't want to get 2758 02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:10,200 Speaker 1: carried away. And I guess it got me thinking and 2759 02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:13,400 Speaker 1: us thinking about, you know, what are we talking about here? 2760 02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:15,200 Speaker 1: What do you think he throws it well? A lot 2761 02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:17,200 Speaker 1: of times. We talked about Joshi a lot today and 2762 02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:19,280 Speaker 1: we also started the show up. I congratulating. I want 2763 02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:21,200 Speaker 1: to into the show by congratulating you on getting into 2764 02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:23,760 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Broadcast Hall of Fame. Proud of you, man. 2765 02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:26,080 Speaker 1: It's almost a big thank you. It's a big moment. 2766 02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:30,320 Speaker 1: And uh, well I well deserved and and uh, you know, 2767 02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:32,200 Speaker 1: the guys back in the control room, they all kind 2768 02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:34,960 Speaker 1: of got together. They we had the big video already. 2769 02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,120 Speaker 1: We had we had for those of you who didn't 2770 02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:40,920 Speaker 1: want we had cake to cake. Thanks for our production 2771 02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:44,400 Speaker 1: assistance in the back room. George As, Steff Colteneck, Thomas Honalder, 2772 02:13:44,480 --> 02:13:46,920 Speaker 1: Kelley Rude, j J. Torito getting cardgies seems Robill our 2773 02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:49,920 Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris. We're back tomorrow. Dawson Knox is going 2774 02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:51,520 Speaker 1: to join us tomorrow on the show. Make sure you 2775 02:13:51,600 --> 02:13:54,240 Speaker 1: show up One Bills Drive from One Bills Live, One 2776 02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:56,920 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bills Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio.