1 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Stu Guts. 2 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: You know how you can tell mel is in work mode. 3 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: He's Bob in the it's not the living room with 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: the beach setting behind him, with the with the Nope. 5 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: It's all books and football behind him. Now he's in 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: a study, right that the study That. 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: Was the ESPN helmet in ninety four when he said, 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: who the hell is Melkaiper and all of that. That's 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: the helmet from ninety four draft with the whole villa 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: for trev Alberts thing, and then freddie Gadelli was producing that. 11 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: He said, just take the Dan helmet. This is a 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: memorable draft. Take the Dan helmet. So that's the exact 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: helmet from the nineteen ninety four draft. That helmet phone. 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: It's good to see you're still not hanging on to that. 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: Mel I had never leaving. I got that's a Kay's 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: Valley picture back there. Okay, they just had the BMW 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: championship of Kay's. This was the summer. That's a football 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: signed by Chris Win. Lauren was born in March and April. 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: He said, Lauren, a true number one pick. Signed that football. There. 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: I got Pete Rose all over the place, signed baseball's 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: and Pete Rose got all kind of stuff going on 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: in there. 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's your favorite baseball player of all time? 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: Though, Brooks Robinson and Jim Pie Brooks Robinson and Jim 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: Palmer were my two all time favorites. That's why I 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: were always in More seven and twenty two because I 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: was in I was Burt Jones was seven, but I 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: was my favorite, one of my favorite quarterbacks. I grew 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: up with him in the seventies. So Burt Jones football 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: was seven, then Palmer twenty two, and then Brooks. I 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: wore five at Brooks was my and I got no Brooks. 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: You know, groot a great guy. So he was actually 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: above our tickets were right below where the sweets were, 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: so Brooks would be in Bashaddy Sweet, right above us, right. 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: So I'd always be standing in Rocket and I'd look 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: up and Brooks would be there talking to me. I 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: just looking up to see brook Robinson. I was like, 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: oh my god. Yeah. And then Gary Williams would always 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: being that suite, Ralph Frigan, all the Maryland guys, you know, 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: and then I looked up and there's Brooks. So it's chazy. 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: When I got that, I always wuld to see Brooks 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: down a difference. You know. Uh, there's shops down in Towson, 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, he was great. 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Uh, Taylor's a Yankee fan. Are you delighted when 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: the Yankees get knocked out of the playoffs? Do you 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: love it? 47 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: You know what, Taylor, I don't hate the Yankees. In fact, 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: when father grew up, was a big Yankees fan, and 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: he'd actually take a bike right up to watch the 50 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: Yankees when the kid and got in a lot of 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: trouble when he was like fifteen, thinking a little motor 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: scooter up in the New York to watch the Yankees. Yeah, 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: the Yankees were part and parcel to what baseball is. 54 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: You know, the history of baseball, So the Yankees responsible 55 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: for a lot of that. So now you know, so 56 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: it's a great rivalry. No, I respect. I like Steyle 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: was a bit. I love with stein Brenner. I love 58 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: those kind of owners that are personalities that actually did thing. 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: I don't care if they're right. Jerry Jones, he cares 60 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: enough to say, hey, I think our defense in front 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: bury What do you want to laugh at him or not? 62 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: He at least has an opinion, So what the hell? 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: You know, it's sports, So you don't have to take 64 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: it that seriously. So I always like Stein Brener. I 65 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: thought he was great. You know Billy Martin, you know 66 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: Billy was great. So yeah, uh. In fact, I love 67 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 2: what the Scooter was doing, the games with with Bill 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: White with Scooters. 69 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to watch. 70 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: Him every every time I can watch them. We would 71 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: watch that Yankee game. So I'm probably watching more Yankees 72 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: than I did Orioles back in those days. 73 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 5: I feel like the connection point between Yankee fans and 74 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 5: Orioles fans too. It's Mike Mussina. We kind of both 75 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 5: look at Mike Musina and it's like, this is our guy. 76 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 5: Thank you for him, Thank you for taking care of 77 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 5: Mike Musina after he left us. 78 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was a great pitcher. Finally won 79 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: twenty games, right, will win with twenty games at one year? Fine? Yeah, yeah, 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: that's the thing that he needed to win that twenty games. 81 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 2: Back to say, we had four twenty game winners in Baltimore, 82 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: can you name the four twenty game winners? 83 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Well? Can you? 84 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't think Jim Po, Dave McNally. 85 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: McNally, yep, was it? 86 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: Flanagan, Mike Kway are right and Pat Dobson and Pat Dobson. 87 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: Wow, they will never have that. 88 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: You'll never get that again. So because you got four starters, 89 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: they have four man rotation that you don't enough starts 90 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: to ever have. You know, four twenty game winners with 91 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: a five and these guys are pitching five six innings. 92 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: Now they're getting out of there. So it's crazy. But 93 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: now four twenty game winners in Baltimore. Yeah, First of all, 94 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: a game I went to the sixty six World Series 95 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: against Dodgers. First baseball went to a Memorial Stadium. Yeah, 96 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: but no, the Yankees. I love the Yankees. 97 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: Can I start a baseball show with you? Can we 98 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: do that? I want to start them? Can we do it? 99 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to ruin my career. Brought me one for 100 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 2: a podcast after draft. We talked baseball for like ninety 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: ninety percent of the podcast was about the baseball with Timmy. 102 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: So because you love it so much? 103 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I got books back up there. 104 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: One is Ain't the Beer Cold with Charlie Actan. Charlie 105 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: Ackman was the one when he coached the Pistons. The 106 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: owner brought him in for a meeting, right and the 107 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: owner said that Charlie said, we're gonna make a change 108 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: in your department. He said, oh okay, he said, I 109 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: sat there for size. I'm the only one in my department. 110 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: So I got that. Ain't the beer cold with this? 111 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: Remember Chuck Thompson did that, got the book with his 112 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, So I got some great books. At 113 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: two o'clock on Sundays and more said Colts played at 114 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: two o'clock on Sunday because the church. They won't have 115 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: left times for the church to let out, so we 116 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: didn't start games at one o'clock. Later we started at 117 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: two o'clock. That's one of the reasons they wasn't happy. 118 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: I don't think he left because of that. But we 119 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: were two. We were only team in the league. I 120 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: had two o'clock home game starts when everybody else was 121 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: one o'clock because we were a thirty third Street. It 122 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: was the church right there. They had to let the 123 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: church the you know, the new mask got out and 124 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: they started two o'clock. So we had crazy. So that's 125 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: why I was a book. I think Vince Bagley wrote 126 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: at two O'clock's two o'clock one Sunday, but with the 127 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: Baltimore Cults so I'll here you. 128 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: Go all right at the end of this mel because 129 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: I want to get to the to your big board. 130 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: I want to get to the NFL stuff. 131 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: I will ask you your Mount Rushmore of Baltimore Orioles. 132 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: So you have a few minutes here to think about it. 133 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore, Well, I know I can tell you about 134 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: the bat who they are going to be. It's going 135 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: be obvious. 136 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really there's a definitive Mount Rushmore is. 137 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: That was no question for me. Who my defense of 138 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore. I got three guarantee, and I'll debate ten others, 139 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: but my three of it are automatic. Automatic are Brooks 140 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: and Frank Right, Brooks and Frank and Palmer? Okay, Brooks 141 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: and Frank and for me Brooks, Frank Palmer still doing 142 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: oriole games? 143 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I know right? Four right? Right? 144 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: How was that ripkin? 145 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: Gotta be four? Right? 146 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: See? For me, I go, I go. Cal would be 147 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: in the mix of the ten. But I like to 148 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: go back. I think we all appreciate when we were 149 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: young who we were big fans of when we were 150 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: growing up, you know, And I was in my Calvert 151 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: Hall and watching Brooks and Frank and Palmer and all 152 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: those and then cal was you know, eighty three World Series. 153 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: I'm twenty was I twenty three then? You know? So 154 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: you know, and actually he came out of high school 155 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: same year I did, just about out of Aberdeen. So yeah, 156 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: he would be onely hard not to put in. But 157 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: there's so many others. I mean, you know, I mean, 158 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: I love Paul Blair. I mean to play that shallow 159 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: center field, that dear people that try to the wall 160 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: and he goes. Nobody ever hit all over. Nobody always 161 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: say tracking the ball in football, you know, tracking the 162 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: deep ball. You gotta track it like Paul Blair, track 163 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: like I always bring up my baseball and that comparisons 164 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: and analogy is that because Paul Blair, nobody tracked the 165 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: ball in center field. Nobody playing a shadow like anybody 166 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: ever play a shallower center field than Paul Blair did. 167 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: Right, Earl Weaver could be in that conversation, Oh my god. 168 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: Pull up the hall was that haller who was the 169 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: lumpire when he does. If you pull up a Weaver 170 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: and he keeps, he goes back and he goes back 171 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: and he goes back, and you gotta pull it up 172 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: on YouTube. It's funny. You were over right, never one 173 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: a damn guy play you never want. He knew all 174 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: his stats that he would aways. Those two were going 175 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: at it. Uh Earl Weaver, Yeah definitely, or was smoking 176 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: the cigarettes and the dugout trying to. 177 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh yeah. 178 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: He and Palmer would always bang heads. All it was. 179 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: It was a love hate thing with Palmer and Weaver. 180 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, he would be hard. It was a big 181 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: I love Mark Boalantra because he was a great fielding 182 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: short couldn't hit his way out of a paper bag, but great, great, 183 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: great fielder, you know, tremendous, probably one of the best 184 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: fielding shortstops of all time. So yeah, and I say 185 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: it with Paul Blair and then Weaver. Yeah, but uh 186 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: yeah four. It would be hard to stop at four, 187 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: but I'll do it whenever. Yes night, I'll think about. 188 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: The fourth STU. 189 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: We have to put it on the pole. 190 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: Did anybody ever play a shower center field than Paul Blair? 191 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: No one did. I mean he was standing on second 192 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: base essentially. 193 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he was so shallow and it 194 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: was like, holy hell. You know, I saw the first 195 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: game ever, one of the first games ever that it 196 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: was my favorite players. It wasn't Ori was Paul Maloder 197 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: and Paul Maward. I think one of his first games 198 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: was in Baltimore against the Oarls. He played here and 199 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: I saw that game with him, So it was out there, 200 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: and we used to have true double You guys don't 201 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: really stu. You do true doubleheaders where yeah, you played 202 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 2: a one game and you'd have a little break and 203 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: you start the second day night. 204 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 205 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get the day double headers where you got 206 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: to pay for one and pay for the other one. 207 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: It used to be two for rice a one right, 208 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 2: they'll do that anymore. Now it's day night. You got 209 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: to pay for the one and pay for the other. 210 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: We got a double header where it started at one 211 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: and you were there until eight nine at night. It 212 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: was what was. I used to get there at eleven 213 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: o'clock for batting practice in the morning and stay until 214 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: and never leave early, stay late. But I always got 215 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,359 Speaker 2: we always made sure we got there for batting practice, 216 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: and so you knew from like eleven am when you 217 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: got the memorial stay and you weren't leaving there at 218 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: like eight nine at night. And the great thing was 219 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: there was a double header, say in September, because of 220 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: a rain out, they'd all you can see the lines 221 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: of the football field knowing on Sunday the culture gonna 222 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: be playing there. We don't have that any work, because 223 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: we got always we don't have you know, you know, 224 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: dual purpose stadiums anymore. We got one staying for baseball, 225 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: one staying for football. Back in those days, the coachs 226 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: and the and the oriols playing that same field. So 227 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: in September, you knew, hey, baseball on Wednesday Tuesday and 228 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 2: Wednesday football one Sunday. So as a kid, it was 229 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: great to have that too. So kids won't have that 230 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: in it benefit anymore either. 231 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: The great melkiper junior with us here. I am very 232 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 4: excited about this. We are presented by Fan Duel and 233 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: the Ndel Sportsbook. Mel you get just as excited for 234 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: your the release of your first big board as we do, 235 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 4: as the consumer does. 236 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: And that's one of the many things I love about you. 237 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: You're excited, you really are. 238 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: That's why I say take your shots, man, because it's 239 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: all subjective. Now, this is why scouting is so difficult. 240 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: It's it's all subjective. And then you have theories and 241 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: you have philosophies and different ways of evaluating, and that 242 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: they have to have a certain amount of starts if 243 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: they're a quarterback, right, they have to run a certain 244 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: forty time if they play this position, whatever certain size, 245 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: arm length, I'm big one. And then you got to 246 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,479 Speaker 2: try to put it all together and not draft outliers 247 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: and try to stay disciplined in your approach and not say, well, 248 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: I love this guy so much even though it's arm length, 249 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: I'm still gonna take them. So that's why I think 250 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: it's fascinating to see how these organizations deal with the draft. 251 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here for all these years with one with 252 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: forty eight years now as just an outsider, trying to 253 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: you know, critique teams, but to be in that room 254 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: and have to actually, yeah, we all say, well we 255 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: like that guy, we didn't like that guy. But when 256 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: you had to pick one in the first round, you can't. 257 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: You can't pick five. You got to pick one, okay, 258 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: and are you gonna make the right pick? And you 259 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: get to it. So again, you don't end up with 260 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: twenty picks in the draft. You know you have teams 261 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: are lucky always. I'd like to have ten to eleven, 262 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: twelve if it's a seven round draft, you get the 263 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: compensed stories thrown in. I would never want to have 264 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: less than seven. But at the end of the day, 265 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: there's no marching for air there. So guys can be 266 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: really good evaluators and look terrible when you look back 267 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: on them because the pick that they made. They might 268 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: have liked certain guys they were debating, but they picked 269 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: the wrong one. 270 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking at your I'm looking at your big board, 271 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: and I see all the things that you're looking at 272 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: with all these guys, and I'm curious for you, what 273 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: is your non negotiable, Like, what is the thing that 274 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: when you're when a guy doesn't have this or can't 275 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: do this or this is no good, You're like, I 276 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: can't put him in the top five. 277 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: I can't put him in the top twenty. 278 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, great question. I think for me personally, it's and 279 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: I'll get to this in a second because people yell 280 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: at me on your add all. 281 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: The time about you take your time about kiper Junior. 282 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 2: The first thing is I want to see passion and 283 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: fire when I'm watching a player. I want to see hustle. 284 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: I want to see a guy never quoti on a play. 285 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: I want to see a guy who plays the word 286 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: I use is fierce? Who plays fierce? And who is 287 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: the guy that I say, no matter where they're going 288 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: to go in the draft, who is the guy I say, 289 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: I want that guy on my team. There is a 290 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: certain player this year on the top twenty five big 291 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: board that is a guy that I identify. He's not number one, 292 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: it's not number two or three, but he's on that 293 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,239 Speaker 2: big board that is fierce, plays fierce. I'm around Saint Brown. 294 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 2: You know, you think about all the guys heinz Ward. Okay, 295 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna rous Saint Brown was a fourth round pick. 296 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: Hines Ward was like a third round pick quarterback of Georgia. 297 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: But they played fierce, okay. And that's what I look 298 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: at with one player in that first round that I 299 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: have probably higher than most. Actually I saw Jordan Reed's mock. 300 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: He has him down in the twenties. I believe I 301 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: have him right now in the top ten. So, uh, 302 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: there's a guy in then, and I'll give him. I'll 303 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: tell you who it is, and he guesses and he 304 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: guesses good. 305 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: Does he play wide receiver? 306 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: Yes he does. 307 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: Does he play wide receiver at USC. 308 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: Yes he does. Like he yes, and I said, I 309 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: said yesterday during our podcast first Draft, but he's not 310 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: all He's not a Lemon, but his name's kay Lemon. 311 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: He'smon. 312 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: He is a great player. He's yeah, he is a 313 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: great play. I'll say, if you saw the catch against 314 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: Michigan Saturday night, unbelievable gravity does it all the time. 315 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: So McKay Lemon, I would say, is one of my favorite. 316 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 2: You can have your favorite players in the draft and 317 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: they are not here first rounders necessarily. So again, those 318 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: are so many guys I identify, and this year is 319 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: going to be tricky because at quarterback there's one kid 320 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: who you could argue right now is playing at the 321 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: highest level since the debacle at Florida, saying that's Ty 322 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: Simpson at Alabama. Ty Simpson is great. Never started a 323 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: game till this year, right, no starts sixteen games he 324 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: played him at, No starts. How many are you gonna 325 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: have at the end of this year twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, 326 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: See how far Alabama goes and whatever it gets heard 327 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: or he stays healthy, ty Simpson is gonna have a 328 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: tough decision to make. I think you've got to go back. 329 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: I don't think you're ready. I got a list here, guys. 330 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: It starts by NFL quarterback. Okay, and here's some names. 331 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: Mitchell Trubisky thirteen, Anthony Richardson thirteen. 332 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: These are the start they made in college, the amount 333 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: of starts they made in college arts in college. 334 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: Trey Lance seventeen, Kyler Murray seventeen, Mac Jones seventeen. Now 335 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: I'll go to the top. Bo Nick sixty one, Jane 336 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: Daniels fifty five, Philip Rivers fifty one, Brock Perty forty six, 337 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield forty six, Peyton Manning forty five. When Ryan 338 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: Leif was twenty four that same year, I remember Leaf 339 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: went one, yees Leaf twenty four, starts Manning forty five, 340 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: Michael Pennix June, you're forty five, okay, Justin Herbert forty two, 341 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts forty two, Jackson Dart forty one. Why is 342 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: that important? And Bill Parcells is the one started this 343 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: whole thing. Roland okay and said you need to have 344 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: two three years as a starter, Okay. The maturity, the progression, 345 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: the experience. If I'm asking you to come into the 346 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: NFL and play at a high level, every week a 347 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: consistently high level. You better be able to do it 348 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: in college so when you get to the NFL, you're confident. 349 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: You could see arch Manning now gaining confidence at Texas. 350 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: He's not ready for the NFL, but people were talking 351 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: about him maybe going in Why for one year as 352 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: a starter. It's not enough. And I think when you 353 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: and you look at Bill Parcells, ironically, this is the 354 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,119 Speaker 2: irony of this. He started this. It's a bad experience 355 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: and this is why it's not a perfect science and 356 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: not an exact science. It's not a perfect world. With 357 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: the draft, he drafted Jake Long Okay and waited till 358 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: the second round, number one overall. Jake Long, offensive tackle 359 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: out in Michigan, and the second round drafted Chad Henny, 360 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: quarterback out of Michigan. Chad Henny had forty five starts 361 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: at Michigan. Matt Ryan was in that draft. Now, Matt 362 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: Ryan had about thirty, but he took Chad Henny. Matt 363 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: Ryan went in that draft. He could have had Matt 364 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: Ryan instead of Jake Long, but he said, I'll get 365 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: the left tackle, the book end like Jumbo Elliott was 366 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: right for him, and I'll wait for the second round 367 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: and get my quarterback who's got forty five starts, have 368 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: it work out with Chad Henny but a really good 369 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: backup in the NFL, but as a starter. Uh ah. 370 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: So for Bill Parcells, who I think had a great 371 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: philosophy on that, it didn't work with ch Had Henny 372 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: in the second round with those forty five starts. So 373 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: you know, I do think it's important though, and I 374 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: do think it proves that the minimal starts that you 375 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: have show that you're just not ready. You're not ready. 376 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: And so I think that's why I say Ty Simpson 377 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: with only what fourteen hopefully fourteen fifteen starts at the 378 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: end of the year of the partent, pending on how 379 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: far Alabama goes, will have to make that tough call. 380 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: And I know the money is hard to pass up, 381 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: but you're getting paid in college now, right, So then 382 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna it's gonna benefit you in terms of the 383 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: longevity of your career and the succession will have in 384 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: the NFL. So use that I one's called a minor 385 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: leg year, but use that year against a lot of aogs, 386 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: and you guys know what aogs are. Use it against 387 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: a lot of aogs in college, because when you're go 388 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: playing in the NFL, you're playing against the best in 389 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: the world, and you better be prepared and equipped and 390 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: mature and experienced enough to go up against those guys 391 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: and you're one in year two and be ready to 392 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: play at a high level where everybody in the media 393 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: and around the country is gonna be ripping you is 394 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: a bus. You're not getting the year four, five, or six. 395 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: You're gonna be evaluated the first second year quarter. They're saying, now, well, 396 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: shoot Door Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, I haven't necessarily shown 397 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: enough shown what they're just should where I ain't played yet, Okay, 398 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: Dylln Gabriel's just kind of figure it out. And he's 399 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: holding his own with a bad offensive line and guy's 400 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: dropping balls all over the place. So again, this is 401 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: what you have to deal with. And that's why I 402 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: say I should have Fernando Mendoza and Jordan has him 403 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: going number one. I have him like third on the board. 404 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza had one thing, guys, I love. He said, 405 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: I don't touch social media. Oh what that guy should 406 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: be my all time number one. Fernando Mendoza doesn't even 407 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: touch social media. Great, that'll take you a long way, Fernando, 408 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: and hopefully everybody follows suit. So again, I have him three. 409 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: I probably should have won. But Dante Moore from Oregon, 410 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: despite the subpar performance against Indiana, I still have him 411 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: at number one because I can't get that Penn Stake 412 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: game out of my head where he was. Yeah, unbelievable. 413 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: Listen, he's in mid season for him. This is Pete 414 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: mel kiper junior. Mike, how long ago did you ask 415 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: him what does he look for? 416 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: I mean about five six minutes. And that's why I 417 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: loved mel It was the easiest thing in the world 418 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: to produce. 419 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 2: I remember the damn question when I'm looking either, how 420 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: you start talking? I don't remember what the damn question was. 421 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: Somehow took us to Mendoza, and I love you for it. 422 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 6: So so, Matt, let me ask you that you have 423 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 6: more higher on your big board, but more has substantially 424 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 6: lower starts in college than Mendoza. So does that mean 425 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 6: even though you have more ranked higher, if you were 426 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 6: picking number one like a certain team, might you would 427 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 6: take Mendoza. 428 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the tough part, Mike. He is trying 429 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: to balance that all out. Yeah, I love Dante Moore. 430 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: I was hoping he goes back to Oregon. Like I said, 431 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: I got the starts here. Guess what who was the 432 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: quarterback this past year that he backed up? Dylan Gabriel 433 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: gave sixty three starts. Who was the quarterback the year 434 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: prior to Gabriel was Bo Nicks. Bonnicks sixty one starts Auburn. 435 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: Then Oregon has it Bonnicks? Has it benefited him? I 436 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: would think it has. Dylan Gabriel's holding his own right. 437 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: Does it benefit him? I think it has. So again, 438 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: I will rattle off those nomes the guys with all 439 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: those starts. Certainly it's benefited Jackson Dart to have all 440 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: those starts, right, So again I look at it and say, 441 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: and ironically, when Mitchell Trubisky went second overall with those 442 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: thirteen starts, Patrick Mahones went behind him, he had twenty 443 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: nine starts, right to Shaun Watson, I've got their thirty 444 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: five starts, went behind the guy with only thirteen. How'd 445 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: that work out? So I'm not saying it's full proof. 446 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: It's no systems perfect. You can have a gambler, a 447 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 2: handicapper come once I got a system. It's not going 448 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: to be eighty ninety hundred percent. You're gonna have some 449 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 2: the're wrong, but you got to stick and be disciplined 450 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: in that approach. To your point, Mikey Dante Moore, I wouldn't. 451 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: I would advise him to go back, right, great player, 452 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: go back, get another full year. This is only the 453 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: only one full year he will have is this year 454 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: when he was at UCLA after being ranked the number 455 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: one guy coming out of high school. He had four 456 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: games that year where he was low I think fifty percent. 457 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: Three games he was like, he's like forty two, forty 458 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 2: three percent against Oregon State and like Washington State. He 459 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: struggled there. So this is his first full year and 460 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: let's see how he plays the of the season. And 461 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 2: the one thing too, guys, last time I checked, this 462 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: came out October fourteenth. Okay, October fourteenth. Baseball season is 463 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: not over yet, may not until November first, right, whatever 464 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: it is when the seventh game of the World Series 465 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: hopefully takes place. 466 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: And when the Yankees went out though melt well, yeah. 467 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: I'm not do with a lot of injuries and whatever, 468 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: But the bottom line is I'm not writing anything in 469 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: pen and I think we get locked in the Kuiper 470 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: said this that I'm saying a lot of things. No 471 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not putting exclamation points and I'm not 472 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: writing anything in pen now. So don't hold me to 473 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 2: anything about these ratings and about these these feelings. When 474 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: players they can change. Okay, you evaluate this as a 475 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: stock up stock down type of thing. But I do 476 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: think Dante Moore when I saw that Penn State game, 477 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: and you just think about that. Guys, this is off 478 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: subject too, because I'm going to the Penn State looked 479 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: like they had that game in overtime, all right, they 480 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: had it. Dante Moore was Superman that night and Happy 481 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: Valley at the white out, and he's not Superman. And 482 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Penn State wins that game. What happens to Penn State? 483 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: Where are they then against your cla? Where are they 484 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: against the word? Where's James Franklin? Now I probably still 485 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: coaching Penn State, So that one game cost them a season, 486 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: cost James Franklin his job there and that and Dante 487 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: wore was dn TAEI wore that night? I say was superman. 488 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: He was all inspiring, and I can't I can't dispise. 489 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: I can't say because he didn't play as well against Indiana. 490 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: Team didn't play as well. They looked like they were 491 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: I would say, maybe over confident. They didn't bring the 492 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: fire the passion that Indiana did. Indiana brought that. You 493 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: saw Signetty go crazy after that non call, right, yeah, 494 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: and they had to pick six against Fernando for a 495 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: touch yoah six? Right. 496 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: The earl weaver of college football Signetti is he. 497 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: Went crazy, he wanted and I love that. Yeah, And 498 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: that's what Signetti brings, that passion, that confidence of those 499 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: players Aiden Fisher and you see it with the Angelo Ponds, 500 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: and you see it with Carter Smith at left tackle, 501 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: and Sarah and and Cooper the wide receiver, and got 502 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: Roman Henby to transfer from Maryland at running back. This 503 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: team has a lot of great warriors, Okay. And he 504 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: got a lot of guys that he brought from JMU, 505 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: by the way, Yeah, there's still key guys. That was 506 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: the benefit that Kurtz Signett he had going from JMU 507 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: to Indiana last year. He had a ton of guys, 508 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: some left right they moved on to the NFL or 509 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 2: another I call him aog's you know what they are 510 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: another occupation guys, right, they're doing something else, they're playing football. 511 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: But he still got some mcamara coming off the edge. JM. 512 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: You got so those guys are still helping Signette do 513 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: what he's doing. So he had a big advantage with that. 514 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: Those guys came with him, they knew what he wanted 515 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: offensively and defensively, and they kind of helped them bring 516 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: the rest of that team on board. And that locker 517 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: room went on that practice field. So to me, you know, 518 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: Indiana brought it against Oregon. Oregon didn't match that intensity 519 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: and it showed. 520 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 4: I'm glad you mentioned how much this could change moving 521 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 4: forward here, But I'm wondering when you left last year's 522 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: college football season did you have did you think Dante 523 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: Moore was going to be number one on a big 524 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: board or did that just happen over time over the 525 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: course of seeing him. 526 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: You know what, you wanted to see him because he 527 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: was rated so highly coming out of high school, right, 528 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: and then you saw him at UCLA and say, okay 529 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: with ship Kelly, that wasn't working. And then he sat 530 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: behind Dylan Gabriel. But we didn't see and there's no 531 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: evidence then that he was going to be great. Then 532 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: you watched him this year and say, boy, he's doing 533 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: the arm angles. He's accurate us, he's got this, I 534 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: would say, unflappable, feel about him like nothing's bothering him. 535 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: And as I said, it's hard. That's why the subjective 536 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: evaluation is so tough. When I watched him at that 537 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 2: against Penn Sad, I'm thinking, wow, he looks like and 538 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: think about this too. Forget the starts too. Another fact, 539 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: he's twenty years of age. He won't be twenty one 540 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: until after the draft. He'll be twenty years of age. 541 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: That's why I say the noors sellers at South Carolina 542 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: struggling right the offensive line is that very good. Go 543 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: back into play another year. Don't come out after a 544 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: struggling year when you didn't figure it out and have 545 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: that swagger in college and that's super confidence that your 546 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: week the week playing great football. Go find that in 547 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: college and then come out after that type of year 548 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: into the NFL where you're playing against the best in 549 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: the world. To expect these guys who are struggling a 550 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: little bit in college, all of a sudden flip that 551 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: switch and the NFL is not gonna happen, so to me, 552 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: unless you want to let them sit for three or 553 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: four years, and that's not gonna happen. It happens in 554 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: Green Bay. That's the only one that happens with Green Bay. 555 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: Aaron Jordan lovesat. But guess what guys Patrick mahomesat for 556 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: one year right in Kansas City behind Alex Smith. Normally 557 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: that doesn't happen. So for these guys, be ready, be 558 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 2: equipped to play at that level as a rookie or 559 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: second year because by year three you're kicked at the curb. 560 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: You're kicking because guess what happens. It's not that the quarterbacks. 561 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: You imagine I say that the internet for Mendoza. You 562 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: imagine reading the stuff that people say you I mentioned 563 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: turn on the TV and listening to comments. You listen 564 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: to all it used to be. Did you read the 565 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: paper that there was no papers, right, you gotta go 566 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: to the papers to read. Don't read the paper, don't 567 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: listen to the radio. 568 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: But now has no idea what you're talking about? 569 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got everything else. So if you stay 570 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 2: can you can you stay away from that like Fernando Can. 571 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: A lot of players can't so they're beat up so 572 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: much mentally and physically, like say behind a bad offensive 573 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: line or whatever it is that you know, you got 574 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: to take as many years as you have in college 575 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: to play football. Take them unless you're you know, at 576 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: that number you need to be and you feel like 577 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: you are coming out after a hell of a year 578 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: where you're ready, you're ready physically and mentally for what 579 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: you're going to be the demands and the expectations right 580 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: away in the NFL. 581 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 4: Well, if now he's not going to do it, But 582 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: if arch Manning decided to come out after this season, 583 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: would he be the number one pick in the draft? 584 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, I yeah he would be. Now, 585 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: so this is again you're asking me on October fourteenth. Yeah, 586 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: you know, if he he made progress against Oklahoma and Mattier, 587 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: John Mattier, give the kid credit. 588 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: He is great. 589 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: He went out there. He wanted to play in a 590 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: Red River rivalry because that's probably his only shot if 591 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: he goes into the NFL after this year. He shouldn't play. 592 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't think you should to play coming off that 593 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: hand that quick, you know, I know he probably forced 594 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: his wa He w into the field and you saw 595 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: that he just didn't have it, you know. And that's 596 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 2: and that allowed arch in Texas and that defense, and 597 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: I think felt like, hey, we're underappreciated. It's all about 598 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: vendables and that defense. We're pretty good here too. We're 599 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: gonna show you. And they showed a quarterback that was 600 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: not even close to one hundred percent with that hand injury. 601 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: So then have coming off that surgery from what sixteen 602 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: seventeen days prior. So for me, arch made progress. This 603 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: year is about starting to develop and get to the 604 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: point where you are silencing the critics and where are 605 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: saying you're terrible. Okay, because you hear you heard it. 606 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: If his name is not Manning, we're not even does it. Yep. 607 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: It's all about the Manning and that's why he was 608 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: hyped and that's he's used to. I heard somebody he's awful. 609 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: This is what she got to deal with, guys, this 610 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: is what you got to deal with as a young 611 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one year old kid. And you know, Archie 612 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: said it best back in August. Would you guys stop 613 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: with the first round mox with arch Remember Archie said 614 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: that grandpa, who you have to respect round my grandfather 615 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: respects grandfathers, their wisdom, right, Yes, please keep Arch out 616 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: of the my first rounds. He's not going to be 617 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: in the draft. And that that was before he played 618 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: Ohio State guys, and I saw what happened there. So 619 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: if Arch Manning, I would say ninety nine point nine 620 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: nine nine nine nine, because I'm never going to say 621 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: a hundred percent is going to be back at Texas 622 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: next year. He has to be back at Texas next year. 623 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: He would be crazy to leave for the NFL. He's 624 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: got to figure out college first, and this one year 625 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: figuring it out. I gave you the starts. You know, 626 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: he had two starts going to this year. He's not 627 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: going to be to that number or anywhere close to it, 628 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: and he's still trying to figure out he's that is. 629 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: That was that all inspiring? 630 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: No, it was. 631 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: It was progression, but it wasn't a wow. He's ready 632 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: for the NFL performance, So you know, if he can 633 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: string them together and get ready for next year and 634 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: to have that great year to answer your question, so 635 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: he could be the number one picking the twenty twenty 636 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: seven draft when we're in Washington, DC, the twenty twenty 637 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: seven draft. If he keeps progressing. That should be arch 638 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: Manning's year twenty twenty six NOL. 639 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 5: How impressive have has it been watching this Miami team 640 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: with Bain and Mesador bookending each other on that defensive line. 641 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Taylor coaching them. I about Jason Taylor coaching them. 642 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 2: Hall of famer Jason a third round pick out of 643 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: Akron by the way. Yeah, you know again, you're talking 644 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: about Mesador, who is a guy who kind of say, 645 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: plays in the shadow, but is equally He's good. I 646 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: always had him on the twenty twenty Top twenty five board. 647 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: Love the kid, Love what he's doing. Baine. The one 648 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: thing that's underrated about Bank because people are gonna say 649 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: he doesn't have the longest arms, and he doesn't. He 650 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: has short arms. He's not gonna run the greatest forty. 651 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: He takes one thing he does. He takes incredible angles 652 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: to the quarterback when he Yeah, you can make up 653 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: for a lack of this stuff. You do have great instincts, 654 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: great technique, great fundamentals. Okay, linebackers that see it quicker 655 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: to have to have the great forty. Okay, you can 656 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: have a great forty if you if you're slower reacting. 657 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: You're gonna play like a four to nine guy when 658 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: you're a four to six guy and vice versa. So 659 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: for Bain, yeah, he doesn't have the great arm length. 660 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: Everybody love Miles Garrett thirty five arms, right, but guess 661 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: what Hendrickson's got only thirty two arms. I checked Michael 662 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: Parsons thirty one and a half. Okay, so it's arm 663 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: length for them. The end all be all. You'd love 664 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: to have it, but you don't have to have it. 665 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: And for Bame, we'll have to see what he runs. 666 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: That's gonna be important because some of these defensive ends 667 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: have to run a certain time where the way they 668 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: utilize them within their schemes. Get all that. But yeah, 669 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: he's in the top ten because he is one hell 670 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: of a football player and he brings it. I mean 671 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: he talk about tackles, chasing plays, hustling, playing fierce, Yet 672 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: he does it. Messador does it as well. That kid 673 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: ton Malakai Tony, a true freshman receiver, does it as well. 674 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: Carson Beck's getting a clean pocket now to throw from 675 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: to hit Tony down the field. Right, Fletcher's give him 676 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: the balance, but that old Lions give him that fortress, 677 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: and Carson Beck needs to be a guy that people 678 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: are gonna start discussing more and more. It's a potential 679 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: first round pick. Remember, guys, that's twenty five, it's not 680 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: thirty two. Okay, so it's not the entire first round. 681 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: Twenty five guys, thirty two going the first Carson Beck tier. 682 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: If he can get back to the way he was 683 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: prior to the injury, I think certainly are guys. And 684 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: you also have to think about Derreck Nussmeyer. Garrett Nussmeyer 685 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: is just inconsistent. You see flashes, but then you see 686 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: some head scratchers. So if he can gain a measure 687 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: of consistency moving forward through the rest of the year. 688 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: But at the halfway mark, less than that, if guys 689 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: go onto the playoffs and even in championship games and 690 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: forget the bowl game. So we're at the halfway mark, 691 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: a lot of football still to be played. 692 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: Mel who's the guy who has hurt their draft status 693 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 4: the most? 694 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great question. I would say, right now, 695 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: what we expected. I'll go to write the Leonora Sellers 696 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: quarterback in South Carolina. You thought he could be right 697 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: up there with Dante Moore and with Fernando Mendoza and 698 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: being I don't know where Jordan. I didn't see the 699 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: whole Jordan Reid Mack. I'd be curious if you can 700 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: pull it up, pull up Jordan Reid's mock and see 701 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: where Jordan had him going. I thought he'd be up 702 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: there at one or two. He looked like Josh Allen 703 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: type physical build. He looked like the Cam Newton type 704 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: bill That's who the comps would be. But the inconsistencies 705 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: with accuracy, the mistakes, the offensive line's not helping them, 706 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: He's not getting the ball to Nick Harbor enough. There's 707 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: a lot of things going on there that I think 708 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: tell you that Leonora's sellers. I think needs to go back, 709 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: you know, for another year to South Carolina. Now I 710 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: still have him right now with twenty one on the 711 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: big board, so he's still you know, on talent is 712 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: going to be tough to pass up at some point there. 713 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: But I think he needs to go back for another 714 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 2: year and it would certainly benefit him tremendously as far 715 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: as other guys that the other posient, Cayden Proctor, would 716 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: have been based on the Florida State game where he 717 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: had all kinds of issues and pass protection okay, but 718 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: he is rebounded like Ty Simpson, Cayden Proctor has rebounded 719 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: to the point where he's in that top twenty five. 720 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: So he's not as high as maybe you know he 721 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: would have been went back in August. He's not as 722 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: low as some people are talking him as our fourth 723 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: rounder after the Florida State game, like this guy can't 724 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: play as an offensive tack win in the NFL. He 725 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: has rebounded to get back into that top twenty five. 726 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: So sometimes I say, if you'd asked me after that's 727 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: are to State games too, were Mikey, who's got Kayton 728 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: Proctor has dropped way down? Well, here he is after 729 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: we played with five more games. He's recovered. So let's 730 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: see how these guys go the rest of the way 731 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: in terms of their great and not to give knee 732 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: jerk reactions as I say, to one game. And that's 733 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: why I didn't want to do that for Dante Moore 734 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: based on the Indiana game. Guess what, Fernando Mendozo threw 735 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: a pick six in that game. He wasn't all inspiring either, 736 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: So none of this was the week I waited for. 737 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: This week purpose it was intentional to wait for this 738 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 2: particular week because all these quarterbacks were having all these 739 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: great evaluation games. Outside of Ty Simpson, I'm doing anything special. 740 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: So it was like, why did I wait? I didn't 741 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: need to wait, you know. 742 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 743 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, And we all realize this is in pencil. It's 744 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: not in pen all right, So everyone leaving the fuck alone? 745 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: All right? 746 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 4: You understand that when you were changing change to week 747 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 4: because college football is crazy. 748 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: Now, hey, I love seeing some of the Kim and 749 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: I West. We'll sit here and and a good friend 750 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: of mine sense I don't that's it. I just laugh 751 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: at these guys are really creative with some of the 752 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: things they say. They really are they they really are creative. 753 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: I give them a lot of credit. I mean, I 754 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: don't know who these people are. I don't know who 755 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: would respond and say things like that. You know, you 756 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: live your life, go out and have fun and enjoy 757 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: got on the golf course, through your thing. You're worried 758 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: about sending stuff, both comments, all these comments, after all 759 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: these different things that people. I don't get it, but hey, 760 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: some of it is very entertaining. 761 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but those people have bade you this famous milkiper. 762 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: They have I love that. 763 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: I love that because guess what, A lot of them 764 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: will call me and they'll be arguing with me. And 765 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: I love arguing. I love I'm gonna say arguments. I 766 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: love debates. I can't catch you tell yeah, I love debates. 767 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: I love I bring it, bring it, bring your your feelings, 768 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: bring your opinions, and let's hash it out here and 769 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: at the end of the day we'll find out who's 770 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: right as far as prospects three four years down the road, 771 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: as far as predictions, maybe next week. So again, I 772 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 2: think fans are great. I know. I love I love that. Now. 773 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: I did say to everybody, don't send me anything after 774 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: they used to send me all these articles after the draft. 775 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: There were some real good ones. There are some incredibly 776 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: harsh ones, right, I said, why, I don't want to 777 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: read the good and I don't want to read the 778 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: band said, don't send me anything. I don't want any 779 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: of that. I don't want any of it. So I 780 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: don't get any of that. But I do hear through 781 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: the great fight a lot of the comments, and I 782 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: do get the calls because a lot of them will 783 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: call me because were subscribers of mine for thirty some years, 784 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: they will still call me and say, oh, what the 785 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: heck are you thinking? Why did you have him here? 786 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: Why did you do that? Why did you say this? 787 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: And I love to have those. Some of those conversations 788 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: guys start being like fifteen minute conversation and guess what, 789 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: they end up being three hours. 790 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 4: So there you go, right, yes, yes, and you dominate 791 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 4: all of them. Don't get tailor any ideas. 792 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 5: By the way, Okay, no, when you're doing your big 793 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 5: board and you're factoring Caden Proctor and how are you 794 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 5: kind of taking into account how Alabama uses him, Like 795 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 5: they're putting in wildcat packages for him, they're splitting him 796 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 5: out wide at receiver, Like is that going into the 797 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 5: big board at all? 798 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? That was an interesting play. When you saw that 799 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: seventy four rolling, rumbling and bumbling, and people just reminded me, 800 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: what's that movie? What's the movie? Where the the was? 801 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: The movie was, Oh gosh, it was a movie with 802 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: a football movie. I can't remember. 803 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: Rumbling, bumbling. 804 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: I'm trying to job that big guy was a trick 805 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: play at the end of the game, and. 806 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: He remember the Titans, Yes. 807 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: Replacements, No, remember the Titans play at the end of 808 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 4: the game. 809 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: It would work in real life. I mean. 810 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: No varsity blues, Varsity blues, Mary Bloom, Yeah, yeah, varsity blues. Yeah. 811 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: When a backup quarterback was in and whatever, and they 812 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: had the trick play at the end to win the game, 813 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 2: and he's got the he's rocky coming boom boom, boom boom. 814 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you what that's what Katon Procter 815 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: was doing. It was that was pretty amazing. But to 816 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: see him come back, and to see Florida State Ty 817 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: Simpson come back, I mean in Alabama, come back from 818 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: that Florida. I call it the Florida State the backle 819 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: to see them rebound the way they have in Killing 820 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: the Boar. I'm listening to the Fine bomb after after 821 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: that week and legends calling in to find I'm listening 822 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: to the legends go yeah, the bar's gotta go, You 823 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: gotta go, you gotta go. Yeah. They want to Kaylin 824 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: the board, they want the a D. They want everybody gone, right, 825 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: everybody's got to go after that one game, and now 826 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: they all love Kaylen de boor love the ador. Hey. 827 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: And he called it, and I give legend credit called 828 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: he said, hey, I'm a fan, I'm right to change 829 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: my mind. 830 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, yes, yes, they live Tennessee this weekend. 831 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 2: He'll fire him again, Yeah, exactly. But we all should 832 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: have the right to change her mind. I think we 833 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 2: all get in. We can't change your mind because it's 834 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: a sign of weakness. It's a sign of strength. 835 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: Guys. 836 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: Yes, Mel, I can't let you. 837 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 3: I can't let you come on here without asking about 838 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: your beloved Ravens. They are they are, they are floundering, Mel. 839 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: What's wrong with the Ravens injuries? 840 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: Guys? 841 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: We had the Ools with injuries with the pitching staff 842 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: and other players and the Ravens, and it's been kind 843 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: of a perfect storm against the Ravens. Guys, you have 844 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: all these injuries on both sides of the ball. Now 845 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: Lamar hurt, and you have this schedule which has been unforgiving. 846 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: You know, you look at this gauntlet they had to 847 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 2: go through. They had Cleveland, they got to win. That's 848 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: their only win. But every team has been playoff. It 849 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: seems Kansas City is now looking like they're gonna be 850 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 2: back in the Super Bowl. So it's been one of 851 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 2: those things that I get to buy. Got the Bears 852 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: coming up at home. You gotta get on a roll, 853 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 2: and we talked about making the tournament, but you gotta 854 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: win enough games to qualify. So they got their in 855 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: the margin for air. Now they don't have it. They 856 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: got to win, and with all the injuries they have, 857 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if they can recover. Hopefully they can. 858 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: There's a landa pleasant living roles on guys. The Crabcakes, 859 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: the Orange Crushes are great, but the Orioles and the 860 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: Ravens has been rough all the way around. My predictions 861 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: a Penn State the Ravens, uh uh, you know, it 862 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: just didn't work in there. So again we got a 863 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: long season ahead. The NFL was shown Kansas City. Everybody 864 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: was critical. They had injuries. Right, when you have a 865 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 2: ton of injuries, you're reduced to not quite the team 866 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: you were, right because they've reduced the mediocrity. But you 867 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 2: get healthier and then you start to show you're the 868 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: team everybody thought you were and could be. So maybe 869 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: if the Ravens can get healthy and get that swagger 870 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: back and that confidence back in Lamark comes back from 871 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: that hamstring, then maybe in this division, which is not 872 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: that strong obviously, Pittsburgh finds a way to win games 873 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: Bengals don't have Burrow, and that's why they made the 874 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: move for Flacco because they're thinking, maybe we can steal 875 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 2: some wins and maybe get in this mix. So again, 876 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: the division will allow the Ravens and maybe get back 877 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: into it. But you gotta start winning football games at 878 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: some point. 879 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 4: Mel, We're gonna let you go here in a second, 880 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 4: do you think any of these quarterbacks might tank a 881 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 4: couple of games played poorly because they're trying to avoid 882 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: being drafted by the Jets? 883 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: Smart well, dis guts is good. Here's Justin Fields. Everybody's 884 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: critical of Justin Fields. He can never be in the 885 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: same system for two years. If you're not, you know, 886 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: seeing it quickly and throwing and getting it out there 887 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: body of your hands and processing, you need to be 888 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 2: in the same system for two or three years. He's 889 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: never been afforded that opportunity. So it's kind of in 890 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: the perfect storm against Justin Fields. They're going to find 891 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: a quarterback. I don't know who it's gonna be, because 892 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 2: if I'm Dante Moore, I'm not worrying about any of 893 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: this nonsense. I'm going back to Oregon. First of all, 894 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 2: I got to try to kind of bottle what I 895 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: did against Penn State and take that through the rest 896 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: of the year. Forget that Indiana game. Flush that game, right, 897 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: Flush the Indiana game, Bottle the Penn State game. And 898 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: if he does, he's gonna be number one. If he doesn't, 899 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: it's an easy decision. You go back. Even if he 900 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 2: does do that is does he have enough starts? I 901 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: would still go back. In terms of Mendoza. Is Mendoz's 902 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: gonna play well enough to be worthy at the end? 903 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 2: The guy it's gonna be franchise we'll see, right, And 904 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 2: then Ty Simpson, what's he gonna play like the rest 905 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: of the year? And is that going to be enough starts? 906 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I would go back to Alabama Sellers. 907 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: I would go back as well. So who's left, who's 908 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: the last man standing at quarterback is going to be 909 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 2: the question. It's certainly Mendoza's going to be in this mix, 910 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: there's no question about that. Does Carson Beck ascend up 911 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: that high? We'll see, He's got a hell of a 912 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 2: supporting cast around him down at Miami. I think it's 913 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: gonna be fun to see how it plays out. But 914 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: this quarterback class was supposed to be seven eight nine 915 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: guys deep in terms of early rounders. Now n he 916 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 2: go goes out at UCLA doing some good things. Now 917 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 2: after struggles early on left Tennessee for UCLA, ever said, O, 918 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 2: why do you do that would happen? He can't win 919 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 2: a game and that he upsets Penn State, thing beats 920 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 2: Michigan State. See how that plays out. But this quarterback 921 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 2: class was suppose that said seven eight nine deep has 922 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: not panned out at all. So if you ask me, 923 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 2: the most disappointing aspect of this draft from what we saw, 924 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: said and thought in August to where we are right now, 925 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: it's the quarterback position overall. 926 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 4: All right, the big board is out, it's on ESPN 927 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 4: dot com. He'll be all over ESPN. I'm certain promoting it. 928 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: Mel. 929 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 4: Thank you for the time. Are you good with your 930 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 4: Orioles Mount Rushmore? Do you want to finish that off 931 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 4: for your game? 932 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 933 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready. Now, I'm ready. This is what I 934 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 2: gotta do. I got it obviously, Brooks and Frank Brooks 935 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 2: and Frank Robinson, Jim Palmer still going struck doing great 936 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: work with the cover of the Orioles as the color commentator, 937 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: and my fourth one is a tough one because I'm 938 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: considering ten to eleven, twelve guys we thought about all 939 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: the time. But it's got to be the Earl of Baltimore. 940 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 2: That's got to be the Earl of Baltimore. 941 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. 942 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 2: You can't cause you got the players, You got the 943 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: love hate relationship with Earl Weaver and Jim Palmer had, 944 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: you got Brooks and Frank and you got to have 945 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: the manager who was as entertaining and as spectacular as 946 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: any manager in the history of Major League Baseball. Well, yeah, 947 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 2: and I'll go Earl Weavers. 948 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: That's my Taylor's outrage. 949 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 4: You've left out Eddie Murray, who I believe had five 950 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 4: hundred homers and three thousand hits. 951 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: So Eddie Murray was great. He was. Eddie Murray made 952 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: playing baseball look too easy. 953 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. You're right. 954 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: He made everyone look too easy. He was almost looked like, 955 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: well he wasn't given the great effort because he made 956 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: it look so easy. Everything was so instinctual and easy 957 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: for Eddie. Switched, hitting first base, everything, he just unbelievable. 958 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: Eddie and Cal Bes the friends, right, they were together. 959 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: I was young coming up through the ranks, with Jim 960 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: Palmer and brooksh Robinson and Frank Robinson and Earl Weaver. 961 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, I was in my twenties with col and Eddie, 962 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: so we all can't. So you always go back to 963 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 2: when you were the young years, that kind of the 964 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: formative years where you became who created the baseball fan? 965 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: We are created a football fan that we are, right, 966 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm here with Johnny and IDAs in Baltimore. You kidding me, 967 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm here with already, Donovan. I'm here with with you know, 968 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: you know great players. You thought about the best in 969 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,479 Speaker 2: the world. Raymond Barry right behind me, came up. There's 970 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: a playoff there, Raymond Barry right up here. Okay. Bottom 971 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: line is you think about the Colts and the Oriole 972 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: players when you're in that six years old to fifteen 973 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 2: year old area. Those are the guys that you remember 974 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: the most and you kind of want to credit the 975 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: most for, you know, creating that football fan or that 976 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: baseball fan that we are. 977 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you know how much I hate Richard Todd 978 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 4: for being just good enough to suck this six or 979 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 4: seven year old kid into the Jets. 980 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he was just good enough. 981 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: That was what you had, you know, you had go 982 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 2: back to Cleco and Gastono and Lions and the Yeah. 983 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean those were some interesting year fund years. So 984 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: we all we all had that. I said, when you 985 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 2: fastward to the sack Pack, I remember being out Christmas Eve, 986 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 2: how about ruining a Christmas Christmas ever? Playing or Raiders? 987 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: And we got the Ghost to the post and I 988 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: got the sack Pack and Bert and I got Roger 989 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: Carr and Dowdy and everybody going strong. And we end 990 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 2: up losing that game in overtime to the Raiders. Where 991 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 2: that was. And then the next year after that, Burt 992 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 2: Jones is sacked by al Bubba Baker at the Pontiac 993 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 2: Silver Dome and a final preseason again sitting down at 994 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: the shore down on the Severn River, our family shore 995 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: property and eating crabs, watching listening to the radio of 996 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 2: Chuck Thompson and Vince Bagley call that game at the 997 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 2: Pontiac Silverdome, final preseason game late August, Burt Jones sacked 998 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 2: by bubb Ban shoulder injury. Okay, we'll be now, not 999 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: gonna ruin the year. Ended up having a horrific year. 1000 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 2: We have got the Dallas Cowboys are playing that first 1001 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 2: Monday Night, we lose like thirty one to nothing. 1002 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 3: Right. 1003 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: So again that's why I always say to fans, this, 1004 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: to Allevia with this. That was a year where everything 1005 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: was set up for the Colts, this team that was 1006 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 2: on the cusp. They lost that game in overtime to 1007 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: the Raiders, and this is gonna be their year. This 1008 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: is gonna be the next five, six, seven years is 1009 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: gonna be the Colts are gonna dominate. Injuries in football 1010 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: can destroy you and destroy every thing. And so don't 1011 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: I can't assue people say in August or September, October 1012 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 2: and make these said we're gonna do this. We make predictions. 1013 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 2: We hope we're right, but don't get so excited that 1014 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 2: we're just I'm always cautiously optimistic on every want to 1015 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 2: go and say we're gonna beat the hell out of 1016 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: his hand. We're gonna do this, We're gonna be great, 1017 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 2: because in football, injuries can destroy you, and they can 1018 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, just you know, eliminate all your enthusiasm and 1019 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 2: your hope is destroyed by injuries. So let's hope, you know, 1020 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 2: hope and pray it doesn't happen to your team, but 1021 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: you know it seems like every week we got something 1022 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 2: different happened in the NFL with injuries. But that that, 1023 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: I think, going back to the late seventies with the 1024 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 2: Colts is the why I've always been since that point, 1025 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 2: sitting there eating those crabs and sting hearing to Burt 1026 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 2: Jones out of shoulder injury was why I never get 1027 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 2: too high about any team in football that I'm rooting for, 1028 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: just because of that one factor injury. 1029 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 4: H Taylor, do you understand why it is? Me and Mikey. 1030 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 4: I love having this man on so much. I made 1031 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 4: a comment about Richard Todd. 1032 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: He took us to a story about ruining Christmas. It's amazing. 1033 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 2: Hey, I can destroy a podcast very quickly. 1034 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: Through that, destroying it in a good way. 1035 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 2: I get destroyed Dari and Mel show. Mikey tried to 1036 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: reel me. I talked through. I talked, Hey, hey guys, 1037 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 2: what was the over runner on? How many heart outs? 1038 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: I talked Tom, I'm still talking to Mike Now. We 1039 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 2: want the commercial break about now? 1040 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: Three minutes? 1041 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 2: The commercial? 1042 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 1: What what you gotta come back soon? 1043 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god. We had some wild times that the dark. 1044 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: We did that we did well. 1045 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 4: We appreciate the time, always, Man, you are the absolute greatest. 1046 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 2: Every day this is. 1047 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow. 1048 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 2: Man, take anybody