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Speaker 1: It's Daddy Jack Jones on the phone.

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Speaker 2: Young daddy did damn you did it? Bro? You strapped

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Speaker 2: that my down? Bro, I was married.

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Speaker 3: Now yeah, bitch, I'm a cow.

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Speaker 4: Bet I'm a cow I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I don't see introduce this.

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Speaker 2: We gonna start with that ship, bro.

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Speaker 5: Bro really a motherfucking husband out here. That ship is

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Speaker 5: kind of still surreal.

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Speaker 2: Bro, It's just real.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you know it. It doesn't feel weird that I

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Speaker 5: married the woman I married because I love the ship

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Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 2: Lady.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've been together six years, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, So we committed a long time ago. But

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Speaker 5: being a husband, you know, like like that still hasn't

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Speaker 5: suck yet.

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Speaker 6: It is the word wife weird to you, Like it

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Speaker 6: took me about a year to wear saying my wife

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Speaker 6: didn't sound like a.

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Speaker 5: Joke, you know, like like dude, like like on the

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Speaker 5: vacation and ship. You know, I'm telling people like you know,

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Speaker 5: like for instance, the first time that I really use

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Speaker 5: it and I'll probably remember forever, like me and my

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Speaker 5: wife we had like the play where where I was

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Speaker 5: like seat and and she was like seat seet and

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Speaker 5: you know there's a lady between us and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 5: did you mind if you know my wife and I

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Speaker 5: sit together? You think we could swap seats? And I

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Speaker 5: felt like I felt kind of like a snitch because

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Speaker 5: like that, but talking for the rest of my life fell.

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Speaker 6: Hey, that's that's the you ash shit ever that the

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Speaker 6: first time you referred to your wife as your wife

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Speaker 6: was you guys were trying to run the fucking three

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Speaker 6: seat flight scamp.

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Speaker 1: I remember when you I remember when you told me

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Speaker 1: that you were getting married like last year, and you

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Speaker 1: were saying and you said, I guess it's my fiance.

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Speaker 5: Bro, I tet you like Beyonce with like birth season

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Speaker 5: question marks, like.

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Speaker 7: Like like like you were like you didn't like it

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Speaker 7: was just it was just funny, like you were kind

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Speaker 7: of surprised by the fact that you had to use

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Speaker 7: that word, like, bro, it's cool, man, like this was.

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Speaker 5: It's just like because it's like we agreed to get married,

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Speaker 5: but without like an official proposal and ship, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean. So but but then you know, we

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Speaker 5: did the whole official proposal ship and not like I

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Speaker 5: proposed her with a band aid that I drew a

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Speaker 5: diamond on because I because you know, because yeah, because like, Bro,

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Speaker 5: I had like surprises with Jorge before that she hadn't

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Speaker 5: liked and ship, and I wasn't gonna fucking blow thousands

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Speaker 5: on that mistake against I was like, Yo, pick whatever

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Speaker 5: ring you want, sure.

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Speaker 2: That's bro, and that's you.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing that's really cool, bro, Like like about you.

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Speaker 8: You exist the way that you exist, you know what

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Speaker 8: I mean, And you found somebody that fucks with you

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Speaker 8: for you, you know what I mean, And that's really dope.

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Speaker 1: And like we've talked about like even you and like

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Speaker 1: your career decisions and ship, like you'll turn down things

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Speaker 1: that people might jump at because it doesn't fit what

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Speaker 1: you desire in life, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 1: your your life is really your own and that's that's

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Speaker 1: super admirable, bro. Even like with the twitt the like,

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Speaker 1: I was really surprised you told people at all. I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised that you that you like when you when when

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Speaker 1: like when I think Mike you hit me up and

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Speaker 1: said it told me that he and I was like,

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Speaker 1: my first response was he tweeted it because you know,

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Speaker 1: you keep your ship to yourself, and I'm like, damn okay, Tyler.

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Speaker 6: My theory was confirm or deny the theory that I was, like, well,

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Speaker 6: you knew you were about to go to Hawaii for

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Speaker 6: a week, and you didn't want people blowing your ship up,

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Speaker 6: like wondering if you were dead or whatever.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm dug, I'm not gonna like keep it

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Speaker 5: kept to the secret that I had a girlfriend, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean. So yeah, I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 5: I'm just I don't know. I just like speaking on

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Speaker 5: shit when it's done, you know what I'm saying. Like

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Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna announce my engagement because you know, God

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Speaker 5: forbid that shit would have fallen apart, and then someone

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Speaker 5: tweets me, Hey, how's your fiance, and and then I'm

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Speaker 5: fucking crying in Chipotle. So I just like, I'm just like,

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Speaker 5: announce the ship when it's done, when it's concrete, when

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Speaker 5: it's setting stone, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And the picture you dropped was beautiful, bro, God, that

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Speaker 1: was that was brilliant and it was moving.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I've never been more moved by brown look before.

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Speaker 5: I feel like that's my hashtag brand right now.

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Speaker 2: But it was so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I laughing and feeling like crying at.

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Speaker 9: The same time.

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Speaker 10: Hey, John and John and I went through a journey

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Speaker 10: while you were gone. Dude, you did well.

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Speaker 6: Just first of all, you posted that ship on Twitter,

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Speaker 6: and it was like someone poured estrogen on my timeline

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Speaker 6: and lit.

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Speaker 10: It on fire or something like.

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Speaker 6: There was for sure a segment of the timeline that was,

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Speaker 6: uh that wanted to be the brown liquor bottle next

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Speaker 6: to your brown liquor boy.

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Speaker 5: So well, I'm a one cognact man.

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Speaker 2: Now, dude.

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Speaker 1: There have been women in on my ig for years

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Speaker 1: hitting me up, you know, proclaiming their undying love for

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Speaker 1: you for the cognac bottle that I am friends with.

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Speaker 1: You said, what.

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Speaker 5: The sentient liquor box.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't even have I g you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 2: I figured i'd shoot my shot.

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Speaker 5: I'm like like third party shoot shots, right, damn.

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Speaker 2: But I was.

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Speaker 1: I literally wondered, like, how many women were you know,

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Speaker 1: extremely affected, maybe even.

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Speaker 2: Called out of work.

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Speaker 10: It wasn't zero.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't zero.

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Speaker 10: It wasn't zero. I'm not gonna say it was a million,

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Speaker 10: but it wasn't zero.

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Speaker 1: To the fact the Battle of Grandma Ya is posted

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Speaker 1: up in Hawaii with another bottle of Grandmarket.

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Speaker 2: So it was it was that was That was cool though.

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Speaker 2: That was cool though. I was experienced, though, Bro.

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Speaker 5: Dude, the what you know, I really wanted us to

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Speaker 5: just just kind of elope, you know, and just like

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Speaker 5: fucking having a fishing and a photographer on the beach

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Speaker 5: in Hawaii where we were honeymoon and at And I'm

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Speaker 5: so glad that, no.

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Speaker 10: Ship, that's what you wanted to do. Bro, I'm a

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Speaker 10: big surprised dude.

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Speaker 5: I'm so I'm so glad she talked me out of that,

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Speaker 5: because that shit was a blast, dude, friends and family

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Speaker 5: and drinks and music.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you go out, like you

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Speaker 1: don't want to go out and you go out and

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Speaker 1: you have fun.

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Speaker 5: Like wow, this just like wow, going out is kind

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Speaker 5: of fun.

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Speaker 2: Leave in your house isn't the worst, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 1: So getting drunk with family and friends is not the

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Speaker 1: worst thing you can do, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: It might actually be fun, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that shit freaked me out because I'm not

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Speaker 5: a dude who likes to be made like a big deal.

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Speaker 5: And I was like the whole thing, like like I know,

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Speaker 5: you know that was her day, Like you know I

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Speaker 5: was gonna be the fucking Kelly to her Beyonce and

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Speaker 5: no fucking you know, no hard feelings there, Like she

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Speaker 5: deserves that shit. She's amazing woman. She deserves to be celebrated.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I'm glad that it went that way.

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Speaker 5: But I was like, dude, like there were times when

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Speaker 5: I was freaking out, like, bro, all these motherfuckers are

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Speaker 5: coming and they're all gonna be looking at me the

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Speaker 5: whole fucking time. And They're really only going to be

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Speaker 5: looking at me because I'm with my wife, you know.

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Speaker 5: Still they're still gonna be looking at me.

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Speaker 2: Like not ideal for me. But like I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: so glad she talked me to that ship. You sound

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Speaker 2: you sound with weird Tyler. You're echoing. Hold on, what

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Speaker 2: the fuck we need?

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Speaker 1: All the we need, all the deeps, Bro, you can't.

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Speaker 1: This is the wrong time to go out.

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Speaker 10: He's he's mister Dragonfly Jones. Now so we're on speakerphone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're Gucca, you guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah man, but hey man, hey niggas is

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Speaker 1: made now.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy as hell.

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Speaker 11: Bro, Like, bro, enjoy your beautiful wife, bro, will the

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Speaker 11: rest of your days.

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Speaker 2: For the rest of your days?

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Speaker 6: Man, when when when did you guys get back from

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Speaker 6: the Was it herd coming back from the honeymoon? I

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Speaker 6: know we did.

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Speaker 10: We did the same thing.

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Speaker 6: We went to Hawaii for a week and it was like,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to come home, Bro.

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Speaker 5: That ship is paradise. Look, man, let me tell you something, BRO,

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Speaker 5: Tropical subtropical coastal living is the best fucking living you

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Speaker 5: could do on this planet. And I hope you two

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Speaker 5: soak ol motherfuckers never lose sight of that shit, bro,

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Speaker 5: And like smelling the ocean and fucking feeling a breeze

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Speaker 5: and looking up a palm trees, that shit will like

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Speaker 5: it just makes me happy on the inside.

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Speaker 10: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, Bro.

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Speaker 1: I'm only been here what nine months, and I've been

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Speaker 1: to the beach like twice.

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Speaker 2: I forget that. I forget that I live by a beach.

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Speaker 2: I do the palm tree.

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Speaker 5: That's that's because you're Midwest, motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 5: Like water is not you know your thing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, John's kind of a drive. John's kind of a

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Speaker 6: drive from the water too. We a nice thing about

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Speaker 6: where we are on Long Beach, just about fifteen minutes

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Speaker 6: maybe to the beach, So my wife and I actually.

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Speaker 10: Just went for a run down there today.

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Speaker 6: But but like I live, I don't know, thirty minutes

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Speaker 6: from LA and I go there maybe three times a year.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I understand why LA people don't find their

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Speaker 6: way through the traffic to the beach all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is the thing. This is

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Speaker 2: the thing. This is the thing.

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Speaker 1: Like Okay, like I love I love of beaches, right,

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Speaker 1: beaches like like Venice Beach or whatever, like even even

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Speaker 1: like nice places, I mean super nice beaches like Laguna Beach.

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Speaker 1: It's it's different than probably Hawaii, definitely from Miami. The

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Speaker 1: experience totally different. You don't really get in the water

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Speaker 1: like in Cali, like people get in the water, but

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Speaker 1: it's like super cold. It doesn't feel the same. The

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Speaker 1: sand is kind of different. So I mean, I I

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Speaker 10: I don't prefer.

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Speaker 1: Right these these oceans are as you know, the Sira,

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Speaker 1: but the other oceans I've been to, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: But like that like this, like it's just different. It's

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Speaker 2: That sun in my fucking let's coming up every days

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Speaker 2: Like it's super powerful, super peaceful.

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, it's like looking at it on the ocean,

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Speaker 6: Right, yeah, exact exactly exactly, And I'm not religious, but

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Speaker 10: If I go down there, it's like you do you

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Speaker 6: Like lose yourself a little bit, just like looking out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even as a kid, like I remember being in

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Speaker 2: Anyway we can tell you about that shit.

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Speaker 1: I think that kind of relates to Sithard or two,

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Speaker 1: But I was like I was, I would sit, I

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Speaker 10: Fuck with the anti shock, right anti shock.

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Speaker 5: You know, I could run a move Iowa, Iowa.

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Speaker 1: I would go sit by the ocean and I would

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Speaker 2: Ocean is and what you're witnessing this huge body of

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Speaker 2: It's just so it's just so insane. What the fuck

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows, Like literally nobody knows what the fuck's going

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Speaker 2: And it's just I don't know, It's it's something.

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Speaker 1: There's something really strange and endearing about the ocean of me,

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Speaker 1: you know what i mean. This makes me think I'm really, really,

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Speaker 2: Visit the fuck with it right, Yeah, yeah, it.

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Speaker 6: Makes me feel in tune with the universe, unless the

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Speaker 2: The water is three degrees colder than I rememer.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking my ass to Miami, taking my talents to Miami.

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Speaker 2: You feel me? Like, no, man, but yeah, yeah I

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Speaker 12: Tyler bro Like, I'll like take the rash out with

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Speaker 12: my shirt off, and it was like February like in

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Speaker 1: February and it's it's it's not it's not ninety degrees,

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Speaker 2: Fucking thirty, you know what I mean? Like right, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Oh so yeah, yeah, yeah I agree, man,

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Speaker 2: We me and me and might be both should take

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Speaker 2: better advantage of it. Was you called it subtropical?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's the subtropical climate.

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Speaker 2: That climate. Yeah, what what the fuck's happened on the Internet?

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Speaker 2: Do we even want to talk about internet? Ship?

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Speaker 10: Internet sucks right now, Tyler. You didn't miss one fucking day.

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Speaker 5: Oh this this, this Twitter is life is very calm

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Speaker 5: and relaxing, and it's like I feel like coming back

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Speaker 5: to Twitter is like coming back to work, Like do

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Speaker 5: I really want to do that shit?

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Speaker 1: You know what, I was scared because you got back

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Speaker 1: yesterday and you haven't tweeted yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have this nigga might not give a fuck.

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Speaker 5: Like like I definitely spilled the timeline. I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: we ain't nobody really talking about it, but we're never

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Speaker 5: talking about ship, No, but you always like you just

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Speaker 5: ship into ship. That's that's we're talking about, Like that's

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Speaker 5: what we do on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just.

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Speaker 6: It's been boring. It's been kind of bleak. The only thing,

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Speaker 6: to be honest with you, it kind of ties into

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Speaker 6: what you're saying. The only real conversation has been about

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Speaker 6: how bad of a job Twitter has done of keeping

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Speaker 6: Twitter from feeling like work, but like by not kicking.

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Speaker 10: The assholes off their fucking website.

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Speaker 6: Man, Yeah, the worst the worst person at Twitter is

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Speaker 6: the fucking jack he might be.

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Speaker 2: Does he even tweet?

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Speaker 10: Bro?

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Speaker 5: Every time he tweets, he's explaining how he's not doing

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Speaker 5: ship Basically, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Like I I think it's been a progressively. I haven't

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Speaker 1: tweeted as much, but like Tyler, you said, like you

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Speaker 1: always found some thing to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Dog, I mean you dude, dude.

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Speaker 1: Motherfuckers might not log on Twitter if you stop tweeting, Like, well,

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Speaker 1: you might be the thing that keeps certain people connected

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Speaker 1: to that site. Like what the fuck did Tyler say?

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean, it's kind of weird to

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Speaker 6: and we're friends or whatever, but like that's I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like I created a Twitter account, I didn't

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Speaker 6: really do anything about it, and then I followed Tyler

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Speaker 6: and then I was like, this is like someone had

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Speaker 6: a really funny TV show, but it's on all the

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Speaker 6: Like that's for sure why I was on for like

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've built up a pretty good network

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Speaker 5: it's a lot of different senses of humor that I

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Speaker 5: I jump in on shit. So you know, I've curated

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Speaker 5: a very a very advantageous environment in my Twitter experience.

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Speaker 1: When I'm talking about your followers, we're talking about you time,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about you. Don't don't don't evade what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Bro, soaking this motherfucking ship.

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Speaker 6: He's like, well, last year he has received too much love,

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Speaker 6: like but surrounded by it, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: surrounded by that ship?

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Speaker 2: Were you Were you surprised by the love at the wedding?

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Speaker 5: Was I surprised by what?

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised by the feeling of love at the wedding?

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Speaker 5: The feeling of love at the wedd yea yeah, yea yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was super fun. You know, I thought that

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Speaker 5: in the Claire on both of those, you know what

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Speaker 5: The the only time I teared up was when my

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Speaker 5: he's telling me how happy is I mean? And then

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Speaker 5: I'm not telling you how you and your lady how

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Speaker 5: really hope that y'all planning on having some kids. Listen,

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Speaker 5: I'm choking up right now while I'm speaking of this

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Speaker 5: is beautiful. Yeah, And he was like, I really hope

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Speaker 5: that y'all planning on having some kids because the world

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Speaker 5: needs some more yous man. And dude, I looked to

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Speaker 2: Man, But that's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. Man, that's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: That's what are you thinking? Are you thinking? You thought?

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Speaker 2: Have you thought about it all?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're gonna give it a go. We're gonna see,

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Speaker 13: Work.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, some travel sized am I he bottles right

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm glad you're back. My nigger. God damn

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Speaker 2: that week was him. Thank God, I need to hear

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Speaker 2: that ship.

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Speaker 1: No pu pull pun there we go, man, I saw,

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Speaker 1: are we gonna jump into the book because I mean,

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Speaker 1: funk the Internet, everything's trashed.

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Speaker 2: I don't give a funk about.

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Speaker 1: Talking about you know, y g you know, getting kicked

445
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Speaker 1: off the joint game, get in a fight.

446
00:20:35,400 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 14: I guess that ship has happened, but it it just doesn't.

447
00:21:33,920 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: And we don't talk.

448
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: About Trump being Trump because that just gets money.

449
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, this is now a marriage and classic

450
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 6: literature podcast. It's officially we don't talk about Internet anymore.

451
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 6: What Internet?

452
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: But this this is one thing I will say.

453
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Speaker 1: This is one thing I will say which is fucking

454
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Speaker 1: super interesting to me.

455
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: While talking to my homegirl about some ship.

456
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: And she was saying, time moves forward, but people don't

457
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: always follow. And I kind of feel like, I mean,

458
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: we can talk about that with religion and a lot

459
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: of things, but I kind of feel like that it's.

460
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: Very proof, you know, like what's will what's going on now?

461
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: Like that the earth, Like.

462
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: We we assume that social issues get better, we assume

463
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: that humanity gets better. That's very dangerous to assume because

464
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: obviously there are people that.

465
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: Are fighting for the opposite side. You know what I mean,

466
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: and and and this is proof of that.

467
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Speaker 1: Like I was thinking, like, dude, if I chose a

468
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: hell to exist, it and I mean if there's a

469
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: if I thought of a hell to existence, I would.

470
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Speaker 2: Think this motherfucker would be running it, you know what.

471
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Speaker 1: I mean, Like this would be the this would be

472
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Speaker 1: the head of a country that I thought would I

473
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Speaker 1: would compare to hell.

474
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Speaker 2: But there's been other leaders that are even worse, you

475
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Speaker 2: know what I mean.

476
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Speaker 1: But I don't know, bro, It's it's a I just

477
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Speaker 1: think we can't assume those things.

478
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Speaker 2: And I think certain people that aren't following where time

479
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: is going.

480
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: And we have to be visilant, you know what I'm

481
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: saying when it comes to, you know, fighting against shit

482
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: like this, you know what I mean.

483
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Speaker 6: But I do think there's some value to the fact

484
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 6: that it's all out in the open, you know, like

485
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 6: in terms of yeah, and like you know, we've talked

486
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Speaker 6: about that with like the different places you can grow up.

487
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Speaker 6: And I think growing up in a in a diverse

488
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Speaker 6: city like in southern California where I am, like, the

489
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 6: racism that that I see here tends to be more

490
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Speaker 6: like the like behind closed doors, like expectations and you know,

491
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Speaker 6: as opposed to like outright ship to see they're literally

492
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Speaker 6: talking on prime time in Fox News about the problem

493
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 6: in America right now is quote demographic shift like that

494
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 6: is outright like white cable broadcasters on the most watched

495
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Speaker 6: cable news network in America saying the problem is there's

496
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 6: less white people every year, like they're like and to me,

497
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 6: you know, that's crazy to hear that, but to hear

498
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Speaker 6: it said that overtly and not have like alarm bells

499
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 6: going off everywhere. So to me, it's like, hopefully the

500
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Speaker 6: fact that it's not just black people saying racism exists,

501
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 6: the fact that everyone can see it moves the middle

502
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Speaker 6: third of the country more towards progress and being decent people.

503
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 6: And I guess that's really all we can hope for,

504
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 6: because we've learned that the other third, the bad third,

505
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 6: is going to get worse and worse and worse.

506
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Speaker 1: Basically, well, being born in the Midwest and growing up

507
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Speaker 1: in the South and becoming a man back in the Midwest,

508
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Speaker 1: I am not surprised by any of this shit.

509
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

510
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: I've been drowning in this shit for the majority of

511
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Speaker 1: my life and at least it's at the fourth point.

512
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: That's why I said the the one good thing about

513
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: Trump being elected is that the fucking you know, the

514
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: roaches came out and showed their face.

515
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: You know, they're not hiding in the cabinets right now.

516
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: They're you know, showing their whole ass, whole ass face

517
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: and ass and tits and all that dick and our

518
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: ass naked out here, you know, dancing in our fucking

519
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: in our kitchen floor. Yeah but yeah, so, I mean

520
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: that's a good thing.

521
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Speaker 6: But I yeah, yeah, that's that's that's a shitty silver

522
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 6: lining to find at least people are being outwardly racist.

523
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, fuck this ship.

524
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: I honestly feel like.

525
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll be in this country for

526
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: super long, bro. I honestly feel that way. I genuinely

527
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: feel like I think it might be. We've been our

528
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: whole life, our whole life, We've been told this is

529
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Speaker 1: the greatest country in the world. Right, We've been filled

530
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: up with a whole bunch of information, and we haven't

531
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: seen a whole bunch of even we didn't read a

532
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: whole bunch of ship outside of like, you know, white history,

533
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, Western nice society.

534
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

535
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: And I just feel like I guinely need to know

536
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: that I want to be here and I have to

537
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: experience other places because seeing all this ship, bro, it's

538
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: like yo, man, like a lot of this shit's gonna lie,

539
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: and I feel like it might be time to shake

540
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: the up, Like it just might be time, Like I

541
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: don't you know, not tomorrow, but might be trying to

542
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: look other places, man, experience other things and to see if,

543
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm gonna live my best life here,

544
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: maybe it's somewhere else, man. Seriously, I was looking at

545
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: real estate and Ghana like we.

546
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 10: Can have somewhere that we want to visit though for sure.

547
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gana has Ghana has beaches that might be nice

548
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: enough for me and and the like.

549
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, beautiful coastlines, you know what

550
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: I mean.

551
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: So I'm serious, bro, like his niggas might shake my

552
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: nigga flat out, but I mean, I'm genuinely thinking about that.

553
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's get this at hard. Let's so, so,

554
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: how are we gonna go about doing this? How we

555
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: go about talking about this? We talk about but we

556
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: found interesting. I'm gonna break it up, based upon section.

557
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to read it?

558
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I read.

559
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean it's only thirty five pages, but.

560
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 5: Dude, yeah, I had a fucking twenty four hours flight

561
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 5: time this whole fucking trick, but I knocked that shit out.

562
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just in the first part, what do you

563
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Speaker 1: think The first part was about what do you think

564
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: that like the censor message we were supposed to get

565
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: from the first.

566
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: Part was, Ah, you know, I think when when when

567
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 5: when examining like novels and shit, you kind of have

568
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 5: to look at the authors a lot of times you

569
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 5: gotta you know, do some research on the author and shit,

570
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 5: and foind out that this this Herman Hessy guy, like

571
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: he's he's he was a German, he was a fucking

572
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 5: born in the late nineteenth century, you know, came up

573
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Speaker 5: in the twentieth century. So this is a dude who

574
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 5: was kind of you know, under the shadow out of

575
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 5: on Bismarck and was in his twilight years during Hitler's time.

576
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 5: And and it's like there's kind of a unique, a

577
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: unique fucking thing with with Germans where if you look

578
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: at their history, like Germans kind of understand that Enlightenment

579
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 5: and and and you know, spiritual discovery it comes with pain,

580
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: it comes with legit tangible pain and bloodshed, like do

581
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 5: Germans fucking invented Protestantism like Martin Luther with the ninety

582
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 5: five DC's you know what I mean. And then yeah,

583
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 5: and that shit fucking uh snowballed into the Thirty Year War,

584
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: you know, fucking one hundred years later, which is which

585
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 5: which was the most devastating war in the history of Germany.

586
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 5: Like most people think World War One or World War

587
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 5: Two had the most German casualy, You no, Thirty Years

588
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: War had more German casualties than both of those wars combined.

589
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 5: So it's and and and even you know, going to

590
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 5: Nazi Germany, the third riche, which harkens back to the

591
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: Holy Roman Empire, which is the first Reich, you know

592
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: what I mean, and the whole they're that whole positive

593
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 5: Christianity bullshit that they ran on where they just basically

594
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 5: rewrote crisis whole image and persecuted the Jews, you know

595
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: a lot of so you know, the fucking the backbone

596
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 5: of Nazi Germany was rooted in religion too, So like

597
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Speaker 5: like I said, like with the German people, there's kind

598
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: of this underlying thing where they they kind of used,

599
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 5: you know, coming to enlightenment and and self discovery is

600
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 5: rooted and intangible suffering and pain, and you know that's

601
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: that was kind of like the theme that I think

602
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 5: was was expressed in the in the first part here,

603
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 5: like you know, Sin Darthan went through a whole bunch

604
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 5: of ship when he joined that that that ragtag group.

605
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: I forgot their fucking name, and then he said fuck

606
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 5: this ship and shook.

607
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

608
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the first one was aid was it.

609
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 6: The tramanas or the astheticsthetics?

610
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: The second so yeah, okay, what do you think? What

611
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: do you think? Mike?

612
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know my understanding of the book, uh

613
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 6: from my and I actual I was an English Lit major,

614
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: but I actually not read this in college. So my

615
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 6: wife wrote the syllabus that we sent out to people,

616
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 6: and she's sort of like, so the book is like

617
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 6: this guy looking for peace and enlightenment or sort of

618
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 6: like the next level of existence or whatever. And it

619
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 6: just seemed like the first part is sort of he's

620
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 6: trying the different places that most people in their lives

621
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 6: even today might kind of go for those things. So

622
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 6: like he's looking in the religious tradition of his family

623
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 6: and his parents and his dad, and then he goes

624
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 6: to the forest and sort of like joins a different

625
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 6: religion or like a more extreme version of the religion.

626
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 10: And then you know, and then he sort of like

627
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 10: finds the.

628
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 6: Leader in the Buddha or whatever and even goes, Okay, well,

629
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 6: I don't even want to follow this guy, and so

630
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 6: sort of just ultimately coming to the realization that like, okay,

631
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 6: whatever I do is going to be an individual thing

632
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 6: for me, Like I'm not going to go join some

633
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 6: other group, even if it's like literally the Buddha himself

634
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 6: or whatever. And so it's just sort of like him

635
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: trying on these different hats and then throwing him away

636
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 6: basically like Okay.

637
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 10: This isn't it. Okay, this isn't it. Okay, this isn't it.

638
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 6: And then at the end it's like okay, cool, now

639
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go and you know, find find a way myself.

640
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel the exactly I think that was.

641
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: I agree completely. I feel like.

642
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: It just reminded me of like, like like I said,

643
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: I think when I look at shit, I always see

644
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: how it relates to my life, right, I try to

645
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: make it personal for whatever reason. I think that see

646
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: how I can connect with the message that's being given

647
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: or whatever.

648
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: And dude, like I grew up super religious, you know

649
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like I would bring my Bible everywhere.

650
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: I think I've talked about that for sure, Like I

651
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: brought it everywhere. People thought it was gonna be a

652
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: precint I mean, it's the thing. I love that.

653
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: But this is the thing, like I was, I was

654
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: out here doing dumb shit, but I was trying not

655
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: to do dumb shit, you know what I mean.

656
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: Like, but I mean, I mean, you you can't.

657
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a high schooler, college student, you know,

658
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: with hormones that are insane.

659
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

660
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: Everything in me is telling me to sin, you know

661
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I kept my Bible, try to

662
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: not to sing. Obviously, I kept.

663
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: Doing doing whatever, but you know I carried it everywhere.

664
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: But like it seems like you know, he grew up,

665
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, listening to doing whatever he was told to do,

666
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: what was right based upon society, based on his upbringing,

667
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: based one of his dad said right. And then he

668
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: had a moment when he was like, you know he

669
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: saw something, was like, yo, I need to experience that.

670
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: And there was this conversation he had I even like

671
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: PopEd I wrote it down. But when he was trying

672
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: to fight away from like steer away from what his

673
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, his dad wanted him to do. And you know,

674
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: he was gonna prove to his dad that you know,

675
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: I will listen to you, but listening to you, like

676
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: in the process of listening to you, like.

677
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: You know, it could potentially kill me, you know what

678
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: I mean.

679
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Because he was like gonna stand certain this one place,

680
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: particular place wasn't gonna eat none of that shit. And

681
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: so like the dad was like trying to get him

682
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: to like you know, to persuade him not to do it,

683
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: and he like he was talking to uh said heart

684
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: about it because he was standing in at one place

685
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: for so long.

686
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: He was like, you will go tired.

687
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: To Hearted, he was like, I will grow tired, you

688
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: will fall asleep, so heart, and he's like, I will

689
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: not fall asleep. He said, you will die. To heart,

690
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: he said I will die. And that ship, that ship

691
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: almost made me. That made me tear up, like I

692
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, Like how devoted he was into

693
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, like into making his own decisions, and I

694
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: kind of related related to that, Like at a point

695
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: in my life where I realized that I was kind

696
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: of different from the rest of my family in general, Like,

697
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't I didn't grow up with my

698
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: dad a whole lot, you know what I mean. Like

699
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: I grew up my step my mom and my stepdad,

700
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, my sister was just like

701
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, my mom, you know what I mean, and

702
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: mother sisters were super young and I was the oldest,

703
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: and I was like my dad, and my dad at

704
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: that point was looked upon as like a bad person,

705
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

706
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: But it was just it was just because you know,

707
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: divorce and shit, it's just weird.

708
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I was like my dad, and I

709
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: realized at one point I couldn't do anything right, and

710
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: I just said, fuck it, I'm gonna just be me.

711
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I can't be somebody else. And I kind of felt

712
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: like that, like, you know, I'd rather get yelled at

713
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: for being somebody else, I mean, for being me, than

714
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: than trying to satisfy somebody and not being happy with myself,

715
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like I kind of

716
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: felt that ship and then he like, you know, he

717
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: experienced other things. I know in life, you got to

718
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: experience a number of things before you find happiness. And

719
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: it seems like at the end of the at the

720
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: end of this, he realizes like yo' I'm alone, you know,

721
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: like he when I love Govinda, he was so cool,

722
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: like a Vinda was tripping when he was like he

723
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: was gonna go join the ascetics and and and he

724
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: took the He was like, don't waste words, go Vinda.

725
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: I thought that was so beautiful, Like, don't waste words.

726
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Like when he was wondering, like you're gonna approach your

727
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: dad and tell him you want to leave? Like how

728
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: are you gonna do that? He's like, and he was

729
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: stressed out. He was like, you know, he'll be fine,

730
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

731
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, like when he when Govinda decides to stay

732
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: with the Holy One Buddha, what they believe is who

733
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: they believed to be bout his name.

734
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: But and he and he's you said, what good time

735
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: of right? Yeah? Yeah?

736
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: And and he leaves and he's like, wow, I'm really

737
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: by myself. And I had a moment like that too,

738
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: where I was like reading the Bible. This is when

739
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: I kind of like, you know, got away from like

740
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: the teachers of the Bible. When I was reading it

741
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: one day and it just didn't make sense anymore. I

742
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: read it from a point of of I was questioning,

743
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: like like I questioned things when I was in college,

744
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It wasn't like I was

745
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: just reading it because when I was reading before, it

746
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: was I was reading it like trying to gain knowledge

747
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: from it without really questioning, you know, where it was

748
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: coming from. And I read it from a point where like,

749
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: yo'm I'm questioning these sources and and I was like

750
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: really looking at you know, looking at it logically, and

751
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: it didn't make sense to me at that point.

752
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: And I remember having a conversation with my dad.

753
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I walked to my dad and I was like he

754
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: was upstairs, like in the dark, and I'm like I've

755
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: said this before, but I was like, yo, you know,

756
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: I was like I looked at him. I was like, yo,

757
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: we're really out here by ourselves. And he was like, yeah, man,

758
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: it's fucked up, ain't it. And and I mean realized, nigga,

759
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's you know, so, and

760
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: I needed to hear that too. But you know, I

761
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: feel like, you know he's having he's at that moment

762
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: at the anywhere it's like he realizes he's it's really him,

763
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: it's really him, His life is his own, and he

764
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: has to figure out for himself.

765
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: He's have to go.

766
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Through things and experience the things before he really finds

767
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: what he wants, you know what I mean.

768
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: And I mean that's super relatable. Bro.

769
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: I still feel like me, like there's some experiences I

770
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: have to have, you know what I mean, I still

771
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: before I can, before I can you know, feel like.

772
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, this is what I want out of life.

773
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, I still have to just some research I

774
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: gotta take to to to to to take part in,

775
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, before I reelize realize what

776
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: I what I really really really all the way.

777
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Want out of this his life experience.

778
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: But I think he's going through that and it's just

779
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's extremely relatable.

780
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 15: Man.

781
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 6: It's it's crazy, but I think I definitely strongly related

782
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 6: to it. It's it's kind of interesting because I don't

783
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: I feel like you almost can think about the book

784
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 6: without thinking about your own life, like to some extent,

785
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 6: I just feel like it's one of those books where

786
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 6: like there's you can read a Great Gatsby or something

787
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 6: and not be thinking about your life, but it's so

788
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 6: personal what he's going through. And I definitely feel like,

789
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 6: like high school an early part of college, I would

790
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 6: have related to the specifics of it super strongly because

791
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 6: I had a feeling it's.

792
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 10: Basically the opposite of the life that I'm living now.

793
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 6: But I had this feeling like, Okay, I got to

794
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 6: get out of my hometown. I need to go move

795
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 6: somewhere else. Like my whole goal was like, let me

796
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 6: buy the cheapest mobile home I can find, and I'll

797
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 6: just write, you know, like twelve hours a day.

798
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 10: Like that's what I wanted to do.

799
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 6: I just wanted to like sort of strip everything away

800
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 6: and get down to that basic part of existence where

801
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 6: I was just creating stuff and like almost you like

802
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 6: wanted to prove that I cared enough about it to

803
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: destroy every other part of my life, you know what

804
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 6: I mean. And I see that like so strongly in him.

805
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 6: The other thing I thought a lot about my dad.

806
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 6: My mom and dad weren't really religious by the time

807
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 6: I was born, so I didn't grow up in a

808
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 6: church or really around religion at all, except for my grandparents,

809
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 6: who were Catholic enough that they snatched me away from

810
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 6: the house for a day to get me baptized because

811
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 6: they were worried that I was going to go to hell.

812
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 10: But they were super Catholic, And as we've talked about

813
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 10: on the pod before, my dad was gay.

814
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 6: So he was gay growing up in a super super

815
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 6: Catholic household. And all those conversations that you were just

816
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 6: talking about John on like an emotional or spiritual place

817
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 6: that was sort of his physical existence was like, he's

818
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 6: growing up in a church that's saying what he is

819
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 6: is wrong. And so obviously you can understand why that

820
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 6: would have had sort of like the long lasting effects

821
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 6: of like shame and trying to hide that that it

822
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 6: had on him, but also why he would kind of

823
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: ultimately run as far away from that as he possibly

824
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 6: could have. Yeah, he's just like, well, I mean, if

825
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 6: you think being gay is evil and I am gay,

826
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 6: that doesn't really leave me a whole lot of places

827
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 6: to go, So right, right, And you.

828
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: Know, I thought a powerful thing was when when he

829
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 5: left his dad, and his dad was like, look, if

830
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 5: you find like the path of enlightenment, come back and

831
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 5: teach me, like you know that was his dad and

832
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 5: mean and Ship the path that I followed on. I'm

833
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 5: down in it too. I might not be writing my

834
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 5: convictions as well, and I'm willing to you know, at

835
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 5: least have an open mind to what you discover on

836
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 5: your own.

837
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 10: His dad is my favorite guy in the whole part one.

838
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 10: To be honest with.

839
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: You, I think since I just I love Govinda, I

840
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: just I just just seemed like such a sweet dude.

841
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: You know, I love the innocence of them. And I mean,

842
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: did you see like how hurt he was. I mean

843
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: even said Arthur was kind of hurt when they were.

844
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, sin Artha just seems kind of a matter

845
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: of fact, you know what I mean. Like I mean,

846
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: but Govinda seems so.

847
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean he Cantha can be a dig sometimes.

848
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: To agree to an agree to an agree yeah yeah,

849
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean like like he was, like like Gavinna was

850
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: all emotional and this sitheart looks at him on some

851
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: on some dry blank face.

852
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: Ship just gives us the facts, like bitch, I don't

853
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: need facts, ug me, motherfucker, you know what I mean? Like,

854
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like, damn nigga shows some

855
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: love for your nigga. I've been here your whole motherfucking life,

856
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like he's followed his path

857
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: and then like you know, he just.

858
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 10: I ran away from home with you, bro, you know

859
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 10: what I mean?

860
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: But uh, I think I think that's I think and

861
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: even like even leaving the aesthetics and going to follow

862
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: uh to follow Buddha or good good Tanama whatever his

863
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: name is. He that that you know, that was sid

864
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Arth Sidhart's idea, you know what I mean. You know,

865
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: Govinda just decided that he was gonna follow the Tanama,

866
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like Buddha, the Holy One,

867
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then sid Hark was like,

868
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: I think I related heart. He's like, Yo, what the

869
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: fuck am I learned from this?

870
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: Niggas teachers? I get that, bro.

871
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: I honestly feel like I feel like, you know how

872
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: I can't learn from me from somebody else's advice, Like

873
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: for me, like people say, you know, hey, smart people

874
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: learn from others' mistakes. Dude, what is a mistake to

875
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: one person can be the like a good decision for

876
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: somebody else, you know what I mean? So for if

877
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: I go off of your mistakes, I'll be living your life,

878
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: or I go off of your experience, I'm be living

879
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: your life or living based off of your knowledge.

880
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: You know.

881
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: For truths aren't absolute, you know what I mean? Like

882
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: what's truth for you can be false for me, you

883
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So I dig the fact that

884
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: he thinks like that, where he's like, Yo, I'm I'm

885
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna figure this out for myself because I

886
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: just don't want to.

887
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: These just teachings anymore.

888
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: I need, you know, I need to gain do the

889
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: research and gain experiences myself and figure out what's best

890
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: for me, you know what I mean.

891
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: I think that's super relatable.

892
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 10: Oh for sure.

893
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I mean I I dig sit hard

894
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: for reasons like that. But yeah, Also the way he

895
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: interacts with people is just so dry. But I mean,

896
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: is that not part of like trying to remain them

897
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: all the time and shit? Like you know what I mean?

898
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: And I mean like his his his ideal of of

899
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: what I said, ideal, Who the fuck am I his

900
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: ideal his idea of you know what, what you know?

901
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: Enlightenment is where you just you just staying even kilter

902
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that's.

903
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that that's probably why he's the way

904
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 5: he is because like to be you know, empathetic, it

905
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: being empathetic or synthetic, it relies on on sorrow. It

906
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: relies on being able to feel the pain of others.

907
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 5: You know, put yourselves and the shoes of other people

908
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 5: who are suffering in that moment. And you know, if

909
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 5: you're seeking enlightenment, you are seeking to rid yourself of suffering.

910
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: So that's probably why he's the way that he is.

911
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 16: In regardless of that, I mean, it's it's definitely just

912
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 16: a very different religious context than we grew up in

913
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 16: in America, you know what I mean. Like I like,

914
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 16: I think, especially if you look at like Protestantism now,

915
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 16: like like this the Eastern idea of like extinguishing the

916
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 16: eye or extinguishing the self, Joel Austin is out here,

917
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 16: like do the opposite.

918
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 10: Of that, you know what I mean.

919
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 6: It's like you are an individual and God loves you,

920
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 6: and that's why he wants you to be rich, you

921
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like he wants you to accumulate

922
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 6: as much stuff as possible, you know, Like yeah, and

923
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 6: like he.

924
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Seems like he's trying to figure out who that I is,

925
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I was I was

926
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: watching something.

927
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: As like dog.

928
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: We know a lot about a lot, but sometimes we

929
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: just don't know who the fuck we are, you know.

930
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: And and I feel like if somebody asked me to

931
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: describe who I am, I don't know if I could

932
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: personally do it. I think that's a very difficult question period.

933
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: But I think part of it is because I'm still

934
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: figuring out about me. You know, we're we're as we

935
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: spend so much time trying to be others. Like, Honestly,

936
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I wanted to be Tupac, I

937
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: wanted to be method man. I wanted to be those guys,

938
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, you know what I'm saying.

939
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: And like, there's certain people that you like there, you

940
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: like certain things about them, and you try to imitate

941
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: that growing up, and as you get older that becomes

942
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: draining and you try to like, you know, let.

943
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: Me figure myself out. At what point are you, like,

944
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: how many years have gone by you're.

945
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Trying to be somebody else before you decide, you know,

946
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: what the fuck do I want? I mean, there's people

947
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: that spend fifty six years on this earth, satisfying others

948
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: before they embrace their own desires, you know what I mean.

949
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 10: So I think we'll get into it more in part two.

950
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 6: But that's sort of if I talk about my change

951
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 6: and feeling from Okay, I want to get out of

952
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 6: my hometown and just write all the time, like it

953
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 6: to where I am now, where I just have like

954
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 6: a very comfortable, stable family life in my.

955
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 10: Hometown two miles from where I grew up, and I

956
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 10: have a job.

957
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 6: That lets me write for a living, but it fits

958
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 6: into my larger life as opposed to the other way around.

959
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 6: Like that realization was sort of even though maybe you

960
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 6: and I end up in different places philosophically about what

961
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 6: it would take fush to get happy, it's sort of

962
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 6: similar flip where I realized this need that I had

963
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 6: to like run away and escape was really more who

964
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 6: my dad was.

965
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 10: You know what I mean.

966
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 6: It was like, Okay, well I don't need to do that,

967
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 6: Like I have people here who care about me and

968
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 6: this is a community that I love, and you know

969
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 6: what I mean, So like why do I have to

970
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 6: cope with the issues that I'm facing the way that

971
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 6: somebody else cope with them, and yeah, it is kind

972
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 6: of funny because it makes you feel a little bit

973
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 6: like some of those choices in life are kind of arbitrary.

974
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 6: It's like, so is it just you start off wherever

975
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 6: you started off, and then when you're about seventeen years old,

976
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 6: you feel like you have to go in the opposite direction,

977
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 6: and then you get a little older and feel like

978
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 6: you have.

979
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 10: To go in the opposite direction again.

980
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like when do we find the

981
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: balance where like, yo, this is what people want from me,

982
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: and this is what I want, you.

983
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Like right, you know what I'm saying,

984
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: Like when do we find you know what?

985
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: And then you realize, you know, this is what I want,

986
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: that I can compromise these things. But I think it's

987
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: important to know, like you, and I think that's a

988
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: very difficult thing to know, is you you know what

989
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean? I think, I think and and like Tyler,

990
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: you were saying, like German stinct, in order to you know,

991
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: to I guess what you were saying, in order to

992
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: like you know, achieve enlightenment or knowledge or whatever, you

993
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: have to go through pain.

994
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: What you're saying the German thought was.

995
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: Tyler, you were saying, like you know that to achieve

996
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: enlightment or to or to like you know, uh, people

997
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: have to go through like pain in order to achieve

998
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: that or something.

999
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's that's definitely and I think that's

1000
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 5: definitely embedded in German people of hermann Hesse's time, you know,

1001
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 5: the author's time.

1002
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that's I think that's the reality.

1003
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: Though I think, like, I don't think like you have

1004
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: to go through pain. I think you have to go

1005
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: through ship. Sometimes it'll be pain, sometimes it won't, you

1006
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But in order to like, you know,

1007
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: gain knowledge, dude, like how many how much have you

1008
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: grown in the good times in your life? Like I

1009
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: grow when I'm i've grown up, I don't even know

1010
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: if I've grown when I'm like up up, you know

1011
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think I've grown in the most

1012
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: difficult times where I've grown the most.

1013
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: I mean I think if yeah, I think if, I mean,

1014
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 6: I think difficult times forced you to do that.

1015
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 10: And I also think you guys would probably agree with me.

1016
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 6: I think you can kind of tell when you're talking

1017
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 6: to someone who's never really been through stuff.

1018
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 5: Right, waste my breath of those types anymore, dude, No for.

1019
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 6: And especially like on Twitter, I feel like I run

1020
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 6: into many, many more of them than I ever talked

1021
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 6: to in my life before.

1022
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 10: But like, but one thing.

1023
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 6: I covered the national champion NCAA men's volleyball team out

1024
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 6: here last year, and the head coach has something that

1025
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 6: I really loved because they went twenty eight and one.

1026
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 10: They lost one match, so they were trying to go

1027
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 10: undefeated and they didn't do it.

1028
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 6: And he talked about, you know, they're all of the

1029
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 6: reporters when they lost, they're like, well, did you learn

1030
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 6: a lot from the loss? You know it?

1031
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 10: Are you going to bounce back?

1032
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 13: Like?

1033
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 10: Did you get some stuff to talk to him about?

1034
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 10: And his point that I loved was our philosophy and

1035
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 10: our program is to learn as much from wins as

1036
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 10: we do from losses, and that like, I've never really thought.

1037
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 6: About life like that, to be honest with you, because

1038
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 6: it's the same way most of us are probably sort

1039
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 6: of defined by some of the hard things we went

1040
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 6: through or whatever, and thinking about that, like, like we.

1041
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 10: Run into that all the time.

1042
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 6: With athletes who talk about like the haters or the

1043
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 6: people who don't believe in them, and I always tell

1044
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 6: them like the people I know who are in the

1045
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 6: NFL did it for their mom who did.

1046
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 2: Believe in them.

1047
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 6: Like, you know what I mean, Like you're not thinking

1048
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 6: about one guy that talked to you six years ago

1049
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 6: that thought you weren't a good defensive. You're gonna find

1050
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 6: more strength in your life thinking about and drawing strength

1051
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 6: from the positive aspects of it.

1052
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 10: But I don't think that's like the story we usually

1053
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 10: tell ourselves, you know what I mean.

1054
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 6: Like it's usually like, oh, I overcame this and got

1055
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 6: to this level or something like that.

1056
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: I think I believe that the reasons I do things

1057
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: is for my loved ones most most, not even just

1058
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: for loved ones. The reasons I make decisions, even my

1059
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: bad ones, is generally out of love, you know what

1060
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean. Like if I would say, like, if I

1061
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: see one of my friends getting in a fight, I

1062
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: gotta throw a punch, not because I'm tough, because I

1063
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: love that nigga, and for you to hurt him makes

1064
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: me want to I physically cannot watch somebody I love,

1065
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, be hurt, you know what I mean? So

1066
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: it ain't no fair fighting with my niggas, bro, you

1067
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm jumping in that funck.

1068
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: What you think about it? You know what I mean?

1069
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: Call me a whole ass nigga. I'll be that you

1070
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: feel me, you know what I mean. But I love

1071
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: my niggas, and that's it. You feel me, And and

1072
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: that's that's a decision I'm that's a bad decision I'm

1073
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: making out of love, you know what I mean? And

1074
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: so like, yeah, I mean I feel like decisions I make.

1075
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: Are out of love. I feel like when I learned.

1076
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: When I'm when i'm learning learning like life lessons, it's

1077
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: generally during the most difficult time and or when I'm

1078
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: coming out of a difficult time, you know what I mean.

1079
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: That's what I'm like, the ones that resonated. And maybe maybe.

1080
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: That is a story I'm telling myself, you know what

1081
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: I mean. Maybe that's not the reality. I mean yeah,

1082
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, what like what what? What I

1083
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: think It's really difficult for people to learn when things

1084
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: are good, because you know, we we I think.

1085
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 10: We're just not critical.

1086
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 6: Not you're good, you don't, yeah, like you don't have

1087
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 6: to think about stuff when things are good, you're just existing, Yeah,

1088
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 6: and then with.

1089
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: Something when something upthing You're like, oh, what's wrong? You

1090
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like what don't need to change?

1091
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: You know? That's that's one reason I got counseling, Like

1092
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: my life is. I really enjoyed my life right now,

1093
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 2: like thoroughly, you know what I mean.

1094
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: But I was like, yo, let me get counseling to

1095
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: maintain because I don't want to like have to go

1096
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: some shit fuck some ship up and then be like

1097
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: have to dig out of a hole you know when

1098
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm in right now where I enjoy it, you know

1099
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. So like like this, I could have

1100
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: probably used counseling much more different times, but I thought,

1101
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, hey, it's important for me to get counseling

1102
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: now so I don't fuck up at least where I'm gone,

1103
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1104
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: But it's just I think it's just difficult. I think

1105
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: it's difficult in good times to learn. But yeah, man,

1106
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: this is some.

1107
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: I didn't plan on all this from this book from

1108
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: this book club, bro, I guess.

1109
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1110
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: I guess itid hearth that will take you there, you

1111
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But one thing that's interesting to

1112
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: me to talking about people not moving forward I'm been

1113
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: talking about religion a lot lately obviously with this, but

1114
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: like when people don't fuck with or whatever, and it's like,

1115
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: it's just really interesting that we make decisions based upon

1116
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: such old thoughts just in life, like even like the

1117
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: thought that you know, fair skinned people are better than

1118
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: lights and people, and that's in many dude, even black people,

1119
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, for a long time, even now you know,

1120
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: put light skinned people above.

1121
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a cast asmanity.

1122
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: We basically have a castism here amongst black people, you

1123
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean, amongst racists and shit like that.

1124
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: But it's just interesting, like where did that thought come from?

1125
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, and I think I was

1126
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: talking to my friend and it's just he said, in

1127
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: India at one point people thought that light skin people

1128
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: were better because the dark snit people worked in the farm.

1129
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's worked and worked outside, you know

1130
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, So like you didn't work manual labor,

1131
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: so you were better and that, you know whatever. That's stupid,

1132
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: but it's also based upon an actual fact.

1133
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 5: But think it was was was that based on on

1134
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 5: like you know, colonialism, because because I mean that's where

1135
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 5: where you know, the colorism in the in the black

1136
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: community comes from.

1137
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this.

1138
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: Is this is more that I think this is before that.

1139
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: I looked up somewhere like where did even nationalism come from?

1140
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: And ship like that, and it was like this was

1141
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: this was like because I was wonder like who who

1142
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: was the first person decided that it was important to

1143
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: connect with your country, like I think your country was

1144
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: better than another country?

1145
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 2: But uh, I think I think.

1146
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: This was before that when like it was it was

1147
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: it was it was like I think it was before

1148
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: like it was India was colonized, you know what I mean?

1149
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: Where but anyway, I don't know for certain, so don't

1150
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: don't quote me on that, but but it came from

1151
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: an actual thing, like there were actual like back in

1152
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: the day, you know, certain like certain tribes felt like, Okay,

1153
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: this woman is heavier, so that shows us he's healthy.

1154
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: So there's a reason why she's beautiful, you know what

1155
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: I mean this, there's a reason why I think she's

1156
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: more attractive or whatever, more attracted to her because like

1157
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: more uh what, I don't know that, I don't know

1158
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: the word, but there's there was a reason at least

1159
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: some type of logic behind it.

1160
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: Maybe it was stupid, it was logic.

1161
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: Now it's like people are just saying that light that

1162
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: fierskin people are smarter, whatever, and.

1163
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: There's no reason behind it.

1164
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: People just held on to that belief even though the

1165
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 1: reasoning but why it started, does not exist anymore.

1166
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1167
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 8: Right?

1168
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: And that's just so weird, how like these beliefs will

1169
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: stay ground, We'll stay connected to these beliefs even though,

1170
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: like you know, they're they're just there's absolutely no reason

1171
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: behind it anymore, you know, like you know certain certain

1172
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: beliefs you know that you know I had as when

1173
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: I was religious.

1174
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: You know, it just doesn't make any sense anymore.

1175
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense, but we hold on to

1176
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: it and try to make it fit our life, and

1177
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: we can't disconnect from that ship. I remember the first

1178
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: time I said I didn't believe. It was the hardest

1179
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: thing ever to.

1180
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 2: Say, was you don't believe, John. But after I found

1181
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: only said it, I felt relieved. As a motherfucker you

1182
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: feel me.

1183
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 1: But I finally admitted it to myself, you know, after

1184
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: years of fighting what I knew in my head.

1185
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But why is why are

1186
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: we so connected to these things. What do we get?

1187
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 1: What value doesn't have to us? Even when we certain

1188
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: people like myself, I didn't think it was good for

1189
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: me anymore, but I still can. I still hold on

1190
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: to it. For others, it's great, you know, like I'm

1191
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: not you know, we've if that's if you believe in

1192
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: whatever religion you know, I support that completely. Is black

1193
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: life is difficult. But why for me was it so difficult?

1194
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: Why for others is it so difficult to disconnect from

1195
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: things when we were proving we know for a fact

1196
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: that you know, these things do not relate to us,

1197
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: and these things to not relate to us anymore, you

1198
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, it's just interesting, man, it's

1199
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: just weird.

1200
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 10: Nobody so let their mom down. Basically, that's what the.

1201
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: Dog comes down to, you know. But it is true though.

1202
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: That's true a degree though, because if I was.

1203
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 6: Like sixteen, and you know, there was there used to

1204
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 6: be people who would preach outside of our high school

1205
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 6: or whatever, and if I'd like if the guy caught

1206
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 6: my ear and I'd taken a Bible from him and

1207
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 6: I'd read it through, and I was like, you know,

1208
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 6: I'm going to join this super evangelical church it would

1209
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 6: have been just as hard for me to tell my

1210
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 6: mom that as it probably was for you to tell

1211
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 6: your mom that you weren't a believer because she because

1212
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 6: she would have seen it as not like a betrayal,

1213
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 6: but almost like a judgment on her, you know what

1214
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 6: I mean, Like why didn't you raise me in his

1215
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 6: church or something? The same way that maybe you're worried

1216
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 6: that your mom was going to feel like you were

1217
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 6: sort of rebuking your whole childhood or the way that

1218
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 6: she raised you or whatever.

1219
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 10: You know.

1220
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: I think what bothers me the most is the pain

1221
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: that my family, like the people that loved me dearly,

1222
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: feel like I'll joke about going to Hill Nigga like

1223
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a joke to me, you know.

1224
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: What I mean, Like I'll you know, like I don't.

1225
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe in it, and if, and honestly,

1226
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: if it does exist, I think it might be more

1227
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: fun than the other option.

1228
00:56:59,120 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 10: I don't. I don't know.

1229
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't like either option to be hundred like Heaven

1230
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: at Hell seems boring to me.

1231
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 6: The idea, the idea of existing forever as myself uh

1232
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 6: is exhausting. I'm good with the amount of tieing that

1233
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 6: hopefully we get on this earth.

1234
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 10: Like I'm good with that, you.

1235
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 6: Know what I mean.

1236
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 10: I don't. I don't. I don't even want to go

1237
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 10: somewhere fun for the rest of my life to.

1238
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: Me, honestly, honestly, I think, I think like perfection to

1239
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: me seems sounds so fucking boring.

1240
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: It sounds horrible like for me, for me not to

1241
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: it's like the way it's just like the way.

1242
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Said heart to lose, you know what I mean, when

1243
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: everything is just eating Like it's just dude, if there

1244
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: if there was no bad ship, how would we really

1245
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: rejoice with the good ship?

1246
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 2: Like I think. I think honestly, the balance between good

1247
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: and bad is perfection.

1248
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 5: Bro.

1249
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes I need to be sad sometimes, I sometimes I

1250
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: need a sad ass day. There was a day where

1251
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: I was playing this sad ass song all fucking day.

1252
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: I needed that day. I needed to be sad that day.

1253
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: It was important to me, and it felt great to

1254
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: be satisfyed, you know what I mean. Like, there's days

1255
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 1: like that, like a rainy ass day playing a sadass song.

1256
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm all in my feelings and I need that shit, bro,

1257
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: you know and then when that day.

1258
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: Is over with them happy that you know what I mean, Like.

1259
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 9: I think all that's important, bro, you know what I

1260
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 9: mean for you to but yeah, but yeah, going back

1261
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 9: to what you said about you know, the whole colorism

1262
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 9: and and people and why people, you know, separate themselves

1263
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 9: and look down on others.

1264
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 5: I think people will always find a way to do

1265
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 5: that regardless of skin tone, dude. I mean, because you

1266
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 5: look at instances in human history, like like you know,

1267
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 5: the rand and genocide with the Uzi and the Tucci tribe,

1268
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 5: like all those two ethnic groups look exactly alike, you

1269
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 5: know what I mean, and they were at each other's throats.

1270
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 5: Or you look at the Parsley massacres and in the

1271
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 5: Dominican Republican Haiti that were carried out by your Hio

1272
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 5: and basically, you know, they couldn't really differentiate the Haitians

1273
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 5: from the Dominicans. Tria was was the Dominican dictator who

1274
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 5: was slaughtering Haitians. They couldn't really differentiate Dominicans from Haitian.

1275
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 5: So what he would do was he would have his

1276
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 5: officers asked them to pronounce Parsley. And there was a

1277
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 5: certain way that Haitians pronounced it that Dominicans, and Dominicans

1278
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 5: pronounce a different way, and they would slaughter the people

1279
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 5: who pronounce it the Haitian way, you know what I'm saying.

1280
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 5: So if you have to dig that deep, you know

1281
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, to find a reason to to to

1282
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 5: you know, view other people as inferior, you'll always find it.

1283
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 5: I think that's human nature. Unfortunately.

1284
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think it's because do you think it's

1285
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 2: because like, if.

1286
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: We look at things from a grand scale, humans are

1287
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: very like our life assured, were really not important if

1288
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: you look at things from a universal standpoint, you know

1289
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, Even humanity as a whole is a

1290
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: very short time period in the universal, in the universe,

1291
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: and so are we are we trying to find a reason,

1292
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: a purpose or something that make us feel important, because

1293
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: if you look at things from a grand scale, like

1294
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, not only am I not.

1295
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: That important, but humanity is not important, you know what

1296
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean?

1297
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think that's part of it.

1298
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 6: I think most of the things we do as human

1299
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 6: beings that aren't providing for food and a place to

1300
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 6: sleep come from They always talk about the first thought

1301
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 6: is the like I think therefore I am right.

1302
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 10: So the second thought or the first question must be, so.

1303
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 6: What if I die? Yeah, you know, or sort of

1304
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 6: like trying to find meaning to that stuff. And I

1305
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 6: think ultimately, you know, you and I have talked something

1306
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 6: about that neurograss Tyson book. But if you kind of

1307
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 6: consider what we've proven the size of the universe to

1308
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 6: be and what we know the age of the earth

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01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 6: to be, you sort of like have to accept the

1310
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 6: fundamental meaninglessness of most of what's out there. And so

1311
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 6: to me that there's like a freedom in that where

1312
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 6: you go, well, if there isn't like a larger meaning

1313
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 6: or purpose, then it's okay to just be happy.

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01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, just do things.

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Speaker 6: That are that that build a good life and that

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01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 6: are fulfilling and not worrying about, uh, some kind of

1317
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 6: cosmic other priorities, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just very odd that there is an enormous,

1319
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: continually growing universe, you know. You know that's anyway, and

1320
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, we will give value on somebody based upon

1321
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: money or things that they have, and that means so

1322
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: much to such a small percentage of the universe, you

1323
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Speaker 1: know what.

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Speaker 10: I mean, Like like yes, like.

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01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: Like if you look at for me, like that means

1326
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: a lot here on this planet. But this planet is

1327
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: so minute, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, compared to you know, like the rest

1329
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: of existence.

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Speaker 10: So anyway, this is the thing that tripped me out most.

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Speaker 6: And I wish I could mention this to Hermann hesse

1332
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 6: Or said, artha is like I read in that book

1333
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 6: that the galaxies are all moving away from each other, right,

1334
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 6: like they all came from something really concentrated and then

1335
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 6: it's like expanding. So yeah, so in a certain right,

1336
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 6: so we don't think of the galaxies as like clouds,

1337
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 6: but they are basically their physical things, right, So as

1338
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 6: the universe expands, there's not more galaxies, so they're moving

1339
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 6: further and further.

1340
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 10: Away from each other. So at some point, like millions

1341
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 10: of years from now.

1342
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 6: Our galaxy will be so far away from other galaxies

1343
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 6: that the light won't reach us, and so we won't

1344
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 6: even know that there are other things in the universe

1345
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 6: unless someone records that information and like writes it down

1346
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 6: and keeps that, you know, if we're still around in

1347
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 6: a million years or whatever.

1348
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 10: You know.

1349
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 6: But isn't that like that's a trip, like you could

1350
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 6: have the best equipment in the world in a million

1351
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 6: years or whatever it is, and the light from the

1352
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 6: other galaxies would not even be perceivable to you.

1353
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 10: Because they'd be so far away. It's like, that's how

1354
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 10: big the universe is.

1355
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: It really interests me that you said the competitive cloud.

1356
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: I wonder what being looks at the galaxies as clouds.

1357
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: If there's a being that does that, like how we

1358
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: look at clouds from our perspective.

1359
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: Is there something else, something that we don't know, that's

1360
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: looking at the galaxies from that perspective.

1361
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: That's interesting as fuck. Man. Anyway, that's a brain fuck.

1362
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: But uh, are we good?

1363
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: Did we did we do a good job?

1364
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 10: I think so?

1365
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 5: I think we did?

1366
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: You think so? We went? We were pretty far in

1367
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: this ship.

1368
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 10: I'm proud.

1369
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: So first one, it is only this is thirty five

1370
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: pages into this motherfucker, nigga. We thirty five pages into

1371
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: our book club as a whole, and we went deep

1372
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: into that shit. Anyway, I'm proud of very Okay, for

1373
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: the next.

1374
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 10: Podcast, we're reading chapters five, six, and seven.

1375
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: Okay, awesome, all right man, And we need to take

1376
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: some emails next time too.

1377
01:03:55,360 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it, all right, man, Captain Daddy did. Congratulations,

1378
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: appreciate it, bro, you Daddy.

1379
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: Did, and missus Captain Daddy did. I wish y'all nothing

1380
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: but greatness. I'm hell out before any the best things

1381
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 1: that life has to offer.

1382
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: Off you fucking experience all of that ship. Anyway. I

1383
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: love y'all, man, I do. I really love y'all, and

1384
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: I appreciate you everybody.

1385
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 10: This was Richard pick for the club? He said, what

1386
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 10: pick for the book club?

1387
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: Yes? All right, friends, all right?

1388
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 6: Man?

1389
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 4: Than somebody.

1390
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 13: Somebody tell me the answers is empty, and so is

1391
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 13: and maybe I'm telling myself that.

1392
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 4: But there ain't nothing that'll change that.

1393
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 16: Well.

1394
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 4: I could for it be I find how he felt

1395
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: about me. It could have been abody, but house home.

1396
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 4: I only think about you know, a.

1397
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 13: Part of me that I can't iss gone, and I

1398
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 13: know that I can't get caught up. We could have

1399
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 13: been and we tried to pretend and we do win again.

1400
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 13: We don't dream about, don't think about, but we could

1401
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 13: have been no one.

1402
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 4: Hole then again, cause I know in the end dream

1403
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 4: about I think about us. But he could have been.

1404
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 13: We could have been well, he could have remember remember

1405
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 13: other not and we hit me.

1406
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 4: First time you put your arms behind me.

1407
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm up.

1408
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 3: I'm in this.

1409
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 13: Thinking about you isn't helping. Thinking about you doesn't tell

1410
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 13: me what could he would do? If I decide to

1411
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 13: face the truth.

1412
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 4: Old it could have been like but I only think

1413
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 4: about you and you.

1414
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 13: Only hit me up with you home, And that's why

1415
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 13: I can't get caught up. He could have been and

1416
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 13: we tried to pretend and win. Again, we don't dream

1417
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 13: up out, don't think about we could have been on

1418
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 13: the whole. Then again, because.

1419
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: I know any end dream up about, I think about us.

1420
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: We could have been. We could have been.

1421
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 16: We could.

1422
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: We couldn't we could have been.

1423
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 4: Mh okay.

1424
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 15: What we could have been? Well, we should have been?

1425
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 15: Five wasn't five? Wasn't to somebody? If we got a

1426
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 15: hot It was the point of trying. I ain't just

1427
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 15: a print on what's the point. I ain't trying to

1428
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 15: sell a story. Ain't nobody buying? Hug being my eyes

1429
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 15: don't go feel ie? Why should have done?

1430
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 4: Baby? I could have been.

1431
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,959
Speaker 15: I could have belave him, bought to go franchise he wasn't.

1432
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 15: When we to make a trail, baby make a push

1433
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 15: beet of one of Quist shut a been a should

1434
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 15: have cut of wood have been Okay, y'all would have

1435
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 15: been yeah yeah

1436
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Speaker 6: H