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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nice. I'm your host

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Speaker 3: from Shoot Around. It is Tuesday, which means our dear

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Speaker 2: Of course it's Tuesday too, He's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Here Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. We have a ton of gossip

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Speaker 3: to get to a big exclusive interview that's out there.

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Speaker 3: Jennifer Anderson has sat down with Vanity Fair, So let's

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Speaker 3: jump right in. What time is it? My friends? It

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Speaker 3: is see time. So Jenna sat down with Vanity Fair,

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Speaker 3: and he's really opening up. Jen has do lots of

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Speaker 3: interviews over the years, including Vanity Fair before, but she's

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Speaker 3: never really been this honest. She's talking about Brad Pitt,

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Speaker 3: she's talking about Angelina, Joe Lee, she's talking about Greyneth

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Speaker 3: Paltrow used to date Brad Pitt. Really juicy, juicy stuff.

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Speaker 3: But I think what is fascinating is we have Brad's reaction.

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Speaker 3: Sauces tell us that Brad is flattered that Jen and

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Speaker 3: Gwyneth talk about him. So in this interview, she admits

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Speaker 3: that when she gets with Gwyneth, they do have a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a chat about about Brad because they

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Speaker 3: don't share incredible moments. She said, they like reminiscing and

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Speaker 3: they are girls. That's her quote. She said, yes, of

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Speaker 3: course we talk about him. Brad sauces are telling me

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Speaker 3: this makes him kind of happy. It's lovely to have

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Speaker 3: people reminisce about you, even if they saying stuff that

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Speaker 3: might be a little bit cheeky. It's better than being ignored. Mister.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's like, oh, I don't like Garsie. If I don't

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Speaker 3: like it, the alternative is just to be ignored. That

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Speaker 3: isn't so great either. So they do chat about Brad.

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Speaker 3: He's flattered, he wishes them well. I think it's very

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Speaker 3: very interesting too. She does talk quite gently. But for

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Speaker 3: Jen this is a big thing. She never talks about

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Speaker 3: Angelina Jolie. She called it a quote love triangle, and

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Speaker 3: she talked about how she took it very very personally,

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Speaker 3: and she said all the coverage, all the magazine covers,

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Speaker 3: it was a really personal, really really difficult time for her.

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Speaker 3: She didn't go any further than that, but I do

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Speaker 3: She's quite uptight isn't she we cover all the celebrities mistake.

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Speaker 3: Genza always been the hardest to get any information, and

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Speaker 3: she keeps us attle really really tight. She doesn't gossip

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Speaker 3: that much with her friends, and the friends she does

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Speaker 3: nice to have a little insight into Jen's real life.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody gets to that point where they want

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Speaker 1: little bit more honest, and I think for Jennifer Aniston,

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Speaker 1: she's just at that point in her life. We know

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Speaker 1: she's been seeing a new mayor and so she's a

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean girls do talk about their exes. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: lie it's true. I don't think she and Gwen get

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's great to see a little insight into

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Speaker 1: her life. And I think the only thing that I

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Speaker 2: It's not going to happen, guys, So don't even start it.

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Speaker 1: Does internet about them having some kind of reunion. She's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think wrong?

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. You're got to see some shady stories

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Speaker 3: this week that they're friends again, they're talking again. Not true.

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Speaker 3: My sources said. He was flattered. He's obviously read the story.

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Speaker 3: He's interested in Jen. She was a big part of

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Speaker 3: We've known that for years and there's been reporting about that.

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Speaker 3: We know that Jen loves to gossip with a fraid.

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Speaker 3: She loves to know what's going on. They all do,

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Speaker 3: these celebrities that have attended like, oh I hate gossip.

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Speaker 3: weekly in all the magazines, and so I love that

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Speaker 3: Finally she's in a place where I can she can

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Speaker 3: sit down with Vanity Fair, that's a big outlet, and

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Speaker 3: tell her story. She looks incredible. She doesn't talk much

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Speaker 3: I don't think Jen was talking about the new boyfriend

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Speaker 3: She looks fantastic. She's always going to be Jen. She's

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Speaker 3: about it. Would it be flattered if your exes gossiped

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Speaker 3: would be flattered. What do you think? It depends on

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk about Kelly Clark because she

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Speaker 1: is in no shape for her talk show return this September. Basically,

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Speaker 2: Now. She moved to New York.

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Speaker 1: Robbie always have the inside scoop. So what's going on

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Speaker 3: Really rough time. I think we're all putting all our

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Speaker 3: But it's more than that. This is something that has

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think for Kelly Clarkson, it might be a

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