Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 3: US officials say strikes hit dozens of missiles, radars, drone
Speaker 3: and air defense systems in Yemen. At least fifty three
Speaker 3: people have been killed and nearly one hundred injured. Whothi's
Speaker 3: promised to respond, claiming they launched retaliatory missiles and a
Speaker 3: drone at USS Harry Truman in the Red Seat, the
Speaker 3: same aircraft carrier that sent these fighter jets to strike Yemen. However,
Speaker 3: are US officials hells ABC News their claim wasn't true.
Speaker 3: President Trump writing a ron support for the group who's
Speaker 3: targeted commercial vessels and US Navy ships at one of
Speaker 3: the world's most vital shipping routes must end immediately.
Speaker 4: Before we get to Marco Rupe on facinination, Answering questions
Speaker 4: about this reading from The New York Times over the weekend,
Speaker 4: which includes Trump's post on uh, I don't know if
Speaker 4: this was a tweet his truth thingy. The hoothy attack
Speaker 4: on American vessels will not be tolerated, Trump said, on
Speaker 4: social media over the weekend. We will use overwhelming lethal
Speaker 4: force until we have achieved our objective, he said to
Speaker 4: Iran support for Houthi terrorists must end immediately. All caps
Speaker 4: warning the government in Tehran that America will hold you
Speaker 4: fully accountable and we won't be nice about it, which
Speaker 4: is kind of a funny thing to say, as a
Speaker 4: Trump's thing to say, the most powerful man in the world,
Speaker 4: and we won't be nice about it. Here's Marco Rubio
Speaker 4: being asked about how long we're going to do this.
Speaker 5: How long will this campaign last and will it involve
Speaker 5: ground forces.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the problem here is that this
Speaker 6: is a very important shipping lane and in the last
Speaker 6: year and a half, last eighteen months to whosies have
Speaker 6: struck our attack one hundred and seventy four naval vessels
Speaker 6: of the United States attacking the US Navy directly one
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy four times, and one hundred and forty
Speaker 6: five times they've attacked commercial shipping.
Speaker 2: So we basically have a band.
Speaker 6: Of pirates, you know, with guided precision anti ship weaponry
Speaker 6: and exacting a toll system, and one of the most
Speaker 6: important shipping lanes in the world. That's just not sustainable.
Speaker 6: We are not going to have these people controlling which
Speaker 6: ships can go through and which ones cannot. And so
Speaker 6: your question is how long will this go on? It
Speaker 6: will go on until they no longer have the capability.
Speaker 2: To do that.
Speaker 4: The only question about this whole situation is how in
Speaker 4: the hell did the free world? Has the free world
Speaker 4: allowed this to go on so long? Whether it's US
Speaker 4: or Great Britain or whoever, the amount of free travel
Speaker 4: in the seas being disrupted by this group of numbnuts.
Speaker 7: It's absolutely astounding. And I'm going to illustrate the point.
Speaker 7: You're going to think I'm changing the topic, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: Well. This is a clip number fifty eight.
Speaker 7: It's Brooke Taylor of Fox News talking about an immigration
Speaker 7: related topic.
Speaker 1: Fewer migrants are taking the journey to reach the US
Speaker 1: border through the Darien Gap, the treacherous jungle connecting Columbia
Speaker 1: and Panama.
Speaker 2: At its peak in.
Speaker 1: August twenty twenty three, nearly eighty two thousand migrants took
Speaker 1: the journey. A year later, in August twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: it dropped to sixteen thousand, six hundred and this February,
Speaker 1: under the Trump administration, just four hundred and eight migrants crossed.
Speaker 1: That's according to data from an agency in Panama that
Speaker 1: keeps track of migration.
Speaker 2: Now we have a proud to that's that's fine.
Speaker 7: That's fine because Trump's saying don't come, and so people aren't.
Speaker 7: The number of people making the journey through that gap
Speaker 7: to coming to the United States illegally went from eighty
Speaker 7: two thousand a month to four hundred and eight, I
Speaker 7: would suggest to you, And that was while the eighty
Speaker 7: two thousand was wild. Alejandro Mayarchis was saying the border
Speaker 7: is secure. I would tell you that the answer to
Speaker 7: your question about the who the thees is that the
Speaker 7: Biden policy on that was every bit as astoundingly stupid
Speaker 7: and futile and inexplicable as his immigration policies.
Speaker 2: They were as insane and indefensible.
Speaker 7: And it's funny because I don't want to come off
Speaker 7: as merely a partisan shouter, because I try to be fair.
Speaker 7: I don't think you can underestimate how horrifically terrible his
Speaker 7: foreign policy was. It was disastrously stupid.
Speaker 4: Here's more from the Secretary of State sort of on
Speaker 4: that front, as Marco Rubio brings it up on facinination.
Speaker 5: What does US S intelligence tell us at this point,
Speaker 5: because the US had been conducting strikes for some time
Speaker 5: but has not stopped the Hoho thies. So what's going
Speaker 5: to be different right now? Do you have more fidelity
Speaker 5: in the intelligence that would make this more successful.
Speaker 6: Well, those strikes were a retaliation strike. So they launched
Speaker 6: one missile, we hit the missile launcher, or we sent
Speaker 6: something to do it. This is not a message, This
Speaker 6: is not a one off. This is an effort to
Speaker 6: deny them the ability to continue to constrict and control shipping.
Speaker 2: And this is not going to happen.
Speaker 4: He is more critical at various points during that interview
Speaker 4: of the Biden administration for just not responding much. You
Speaker 4: hit one missile launcher, as he said, as opposed to
Speaker 4: like putting them out of business.
Speaker 2: Here's a little more.
Speaker 6: Do We're not going to have these guys, these people
Speaker 6: with weapons able to tell us where our ships can go,
Speaker 6: where the ships of all the world can go. By
Speaker 6: the way, it's not just the US we're doing the
Speaker 6: world a favor. We're doing the entire world of favor
Speaker 6: by getting rid of these guys and their ability to
Speaker 6: strive global shipping. That's the mission here, and it will
Speaker 6: continue until that's carried out. That never happened before. The
Speaker 6: Biden administration didn't do that.
Speaker 2: All the Biden.
Speaker 6: Administration would do is they would respond to an attack.
Speaker 6: These guys would launch one rocket, We'd hit the rocket launcher.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 6: This is an effort to take away their ability to
Speaker 6: control global shipping in that part of the world. That's
Speaker 6: just not going to happen anymore. And it will continue
Speaker 6: until that's finished.
Speaker 4: It's not very many years ago in my lifetime where
Speaker 4: a Democrat or Republican president would have done this, and
Speaker 4: everybody would have thought, of.
Speaker 2: Course, we did that.
Speaker 4: You can't have some crazies disrupting world shipping like that.
Speaker 2: That's not tenable. What was you say to the hoodies?
Speaker 2: Don't don't? Right?
Speaker 4: And Margaret Brennan with her, what's different about this?
Speaker 2: A lot? A lot? I just told you, simpleton. So
Speaker 2: I mentioned the other part of it.
Speaker 4: And Iran is involved in all of this stuff in
Speaker 4: the Middle East is Trump sent a message to the
Speaker 4: Iotola last week that he wants to negotiate a way
Speaker 4: out of their nuclear weapons program, and they had said
Speaker 4: they're not interested in talking, and Trump has threatened that
Speaker 4: that is a really really bad idea and that it
Speaker 4: and we're going to be coming hard if they don't
Speaker 4: give up their nuclear weapon capability. So that is going
Speaker 4: to happen, I think in the next couple of weeks
Speaker 4: or months. Absolutely, whether it's Israel with our help or
Speaker 4: US mostly or whatever, I think that's absolutely happening. I
Speaker 4: was trying to find the quote from I've got from
Speaker 4: Malc Mark Halprin over the weekend on Trump's foreign policy
Speaker 4: around this that I thought was pretty interesting. Basically that
Speaker 4: Trump seems to be in the sweet spot even with
Speaker 4: his non interventionist here.
Speaker 2: Is this it bu.
Speaker 4: No, Trumps seems to be in the sweet spot even
Speaker 4: with is the non interventionist chunk of the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: That he does things that are just.
Speaker 4: Overwhelmingly obviously need to be done and with no risk
Speaker 4: to the United States getting sucked in really and seems
Speaker 4: to be very popular.
Speaker 7: Yeah, getting back to Iran, I've got to believe there's
Speaker 7: some sort of like manual, and it's not even as
Speaker 7: complicated as how to put together your new gas grill.
Speaker 7: It's a fairly simple manual how to deal with the
Speaker 7: United States when they're really really mad at you or
Speaker 7: threatening you, and it has to do with, you know,
Speaker 7: in transigence to belligerence, resistance until you've got to until
Speaker 7: you know the pooh's going to hit the fan or
Speaker 7: the missiles are going to be launched, and.
Speaker 2: Then you say, you know what, I see your point.
Speaker 7: I think we need to negotiate because Iran's really good
Speaker 7: at this. They say, you know what, I've seen the light.
Speaker 7: Trump you're just the guy to get us a deal.
Speaker 7: Or Obama you're just a Biden. You're just a guy
Speaker 7: that we want to deal with. And you string out
Speaker 7: the negotiations for month, months and months and months. You
Speaker 7: obey him for about a week and a half. Then
Speaker 7: you start to violate him. You deny you're in violating,
Speaker 7: bring it to the UN blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 7: And by that time there's another election, right, and then
Speaker 7: if it's the same guy, rinse and repeat. If it's
Speaker 7: the new guy, you know, then you go back to
Speaker 7: belligerents and grabbing everything you want or lobbing bombs at
Speaker 7: our shifts.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm afraid, you know.
Speaker 7: It's like I always say, every system if it exists
Speaker 7: long enough. Those who are trying to scam the system
Speaker 7: get too good at it and it ruins the system.
Speaker 7: And there are days I wonder whether we're there with
Speaker 7: our democracy. But Iran's pretty good at that. North Korea
Speaker 7: is really good at it too, and I'm not sure
Speaker 7: how you get around that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: I just want to play one more. This is from
Speaker 4: Mike Walls, who is the National Security Advisor.
Speaker 2: Is that what he is? I believe that's correct. On
Speaker 2: ABC this week, we have.
Speaker 8: Seventy percent of global shipping is now diverting around Southern Africa,
Speaker 8: adding to the cost of goods, disrupting glowe economies, shutting
Speaker 8: off supplies to the United States. President Trump is founded unacceptable.
Speaker 8: Iran needs to hear him loud and clear. It is
Speaker 8: completely unacceptable and it will be stopped the level of
Speaker 8: support that they've been providing the Hoothies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my final comments on this.
Speaker 4: So seventy percent of global shipping is being diverted because
Speaker 4: of the Hoothies, and only the United States, and only
Speaker 4: now is willing to step up and do something about it.
Speaker 2: It gets to what we were talking about last week
Speaker 2: and how week.
Speaker 4: Great Britain's military is for instance, or any of the
Speaker 4: other European countries that just apparently have no interesting I
Speaker 4: guess we'll just have to divert our shipping around Africa
Speaker 4: and everybody pay a whole lot more.
Speaker 2: What are we gonna do? Crazy?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like the Western worlds of fire department that
Speaker 7: hasn't fought a fire in forty years?
Speaker 2: Can we don't? We don't.
Speaker 7: I don't even know where the hose is. Our ability
Speaker 7: to respond to threats and hostility is. So you know, atropheed, right.
Speaker 4: And then you know when Trump talks tough on NATO
Speaker 4: or says this or that, it's we're abandoning our allies here,
Speaker 4: allies ain't doing crap at least not with this issue.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I would agree. I would agree.
Speaker 7: Final note, because naval power is so important going forward.
Speaker 2: I thought this was shocking.
Speaker 7: Rich Lowry wrote a great piece for The National Review
Speaker 7: about Well, the title is Trump is right to emphasize
Speaker 7: shipbuilding and talking about how China's going crazy and our
Speaker 7: navy has really stalled in its growth and its strength,
Speaker 7: and it's up to datedness, and our shipyards are are
Speaker 7: few and run by foreign companies. How about this stat
Speaker 7: According to a recent report for the Center for Strategic
Speaker 7: and International Studies, the Chinese China State Shipbuilding Corporation, which
Speaker 7: is their big BMS shipbuilding group, built more commercial vessels
Speaker 7: by tonnage last year then the US industry has since
Speaker 7: the end of World War Two.
Speaker 4: Whoa last last year China built more than we have
Speaker 4: since World War Two.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Correct, that's how you get replaced as a superpower status
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is amazing.
Speaker 7: Well and if anybody's thinking, well, let's just build some
Speaker 7: shipyards and start building ships so we can be started
Speaker 7: by what August or spring next year?
Speaker 2: M Wow, that is.
Speaker 4: A troubling stat that scares the crap out of me. Also,
Speaker 4: what scares the crap out of me? AI, Well, it's
Speaker 4: not as great yet as some people had claimed to.
Speaker 4: Got some good examples of that. We'll get to later
Speaker 4: in the hour. I hope you can stick around. We
Speaker 4: got to start our Saint Patrick's Day celebration weekend, right.
Speaker 2: It's Saint Cractic's Day.
Speaker 5: Well, a couple of days I already saw a guy
Speaker 5: puking in the street.
Speaker 2: No I did. It was my stockbroker. I thought it
Speaker 2: was because of Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 4: But it was because of the market drop over the tariffs.
Speaker 2: Not drunkenness, but discouragement. Yes, now I get it, I
Speaker 2: am your nad and green already I have had so
Speaker 2: much green beer.
Speaker 7: Oh, for goodness sakes, welcome ronarm Strong and get these
Speaker 7: dollars and cents.
Speaker 2: Michael played the theme music do we not? Dollars and
Speaker 2: cents was spelled in essay.
Speaker 7: Of course, in a pathetic masquerade of cleverness, job seekers
Speaker 7: hit wall of salary deflation. There was not long ago,
Speaker 7: an almost unavoidable bump. You switch jobs, you're gonna make
Speaker 7: seven point seven percent more come January than if you'd stayed.
Speaker 7: That was five point five percent, So it was a
Speaker 7: little more than two percent gap. Changing job was profitable
Speaker 7: back in when was this twenty twenty three, the beginning
Speaker 7: of twenty twenty three, as people at the labor market
Speaker 7: was actually pretty good for workers. Now it has turned, indeed,
Speaker 7: and it's statistically the same whether you stay or get
Speaker 7: a new gig. And they quote a bunch of people
Speaker 7: from a bunch of different industries who are saying, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm getting offers, And not only is it not for
Speaker 7: more money, it's for less money.
Speaker 2: So I'm staying right here. Makes it hard to justify leaving.
Speaker 7: Yes, indeed, unless you truly hate what you're doing. It's
Speaker 7: interesting now, and to say the least, that the rhythms
Speaker 7: of these things seem to change much more quickly than
Speaker 7: they did. You know, I mean, a business cycle used
Speaker 7: to be a fairly predictable number of years, and now
Speaker 7: it seems like it can be a month.
Speaker 2: And a half an afternoon.
Speaker 7: I'm just thinking back, scanning my memory banks about all
Speaker 7: the times we've talked about you know, it's definitely a
Speaker 7: it's a worker's market. I mean, people can punch the
Speaker 7: recruiter in the stomach and they'll still get, you know,
Speaker 7: a job.
Speaker 2: Off for it. People were quiet quitting exactly. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: not going to fire me when I feel what.
Speaker 4: Was that thing called lazy Monday or what was that?
Speaker 4: There's a name for it, remember anybody slow start Monday
Speaker 4: or something like that. Yeah, take it easy Monday, ease
Speaker 4: into the week.
Speaker 7: So before you tell your boss exactly what you think
Speaker 7: of him or her, perhaps consult the Wall Street Journal's
Speaker 7: article on that topic.
Speaker 2: Female boss.
Speaker 7: Good lord, I know, so I talked about this a
Speaker 7: little bit last week, but I didn't finish the discussion
Speaker 7: in a way that is terrible, unjustified, horrific.
Speaker 2: I apologize.
Speaker 7: We're talking about as Congress is wrangling over the budget,
Speaker 7: and you know, will there be a government shutdown?
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer says yes. Then Chuck Schumer's changes his mind.
Speaker 2: He's getting heat from the left. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 7: It's about the politics, but nobody ever talks about the crazy,
Speaker 7: crazy way it works.
Speaker 2: And the part we did.
Speaker 7: Mention last week is that Congress uses this baseline budgeting
Speaker 7: that the CBO demands.
Speaker 2: That means that even if you keep.
Speaker 7: The current law on taxes, if you continue them past
Speaker 7: you know, when it was supposed to expire, the CBO says,
Speaker 7: you've cut taxes and you've cut revenue because they have
Speaker 7: this assumption that the taxes will go back to what
Speaker 7: they were, and that's what we're all planning on, right. Okay, fine,
Speaker 7: but it does not work that way for spending. The
Speaker 7: Democrats got this going in twenty twelve as part of
Speaker 7: a compromise. So the CBO bases its ten year budget
Speaker 7: estimates on current law, but the way it looks at
Speaker 7: taxes is completely different than expenditures. Expenditures are assumed to
Speaker 7: always go up. They will always go up no matter
Speaker 7: what the law says, even if there is a law
Speaker 7: that sun sets, but not so that's why you see
Speaker 7: Republicans desperately trying to find pay fors for a policy
Speaker 7: that really hasn't changed. It's it's not only a thumb,
Speaker 7: but a foot on the scale.
Speaker 2: There's no way to run a.
Speaker 9: Government Armstrong and Getty and Los Angeles jury has awarded
Speaker 9: a man fifty million dollars after he was seriously burned
Speaker 9: by a Starbucks drink. Security camera video shows hot tea
Speaker 9: landing in Michael Garcia's lap. Garcia blamed an employee for
Speaker 9: not securing the cup in the takeout tray.
Speaker 2: Starbucks says it.
Speaker 9: Disagrees with the jury's decision that it was at fault.
Speaker 9: It also called the damages excessive and plans to appeal.
Speaker 2: Fifty million dollars.
Speaker 4: Now, the person got burnt pretty good, but I had
Speaker 4: to on his junk, on his junk, and says he
Speaker 4: can't have sex any more. Although you would make that
Speaker 4: argument if you're trying to get fifty million dollars. So
Speaker 4: whether that's accurate or not, I do not know. But
Speaker 4: and I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know how
Speaker 4: you work this out in society in a fair way.
Speaker 4: You know, on one hand, I'm going through the drive
Speaker 4: through at Starbucks. I don't deserve to be maimed for life.
Speaker 2: No, certainly, not in my privets. Yeah.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, it's an impossible expectation that nothing
Speaker 4: ever goes wrong ever, And you know, nailing down whether
Speaker 4: it was the employee's fault or the person in the
Speaker 4: car's fault is difficult. I mean, if you ever go
Speaker 4: to Starbucks and you get more than one drink, they
Speaker 4: give you that cardboard holder that the drinks fit in,
Speaker 4: and this person claimed that they didn't secure.
Speaker 2: The tea in.
Speaker 4: It was sitting at an angle and then it spilled.
Speaker 4: Oh maybe it was or maybe you hit it on
Speaker 4: the window or with urob or whatever. I don't know,
Speaker 4: But anyway, you can't get everything perfect all the time.
Speaker 2: Fifty million dollars.
Speaker 4: The problem with this to me is what it's what
Speaker 4: drives so many of the things that make us nuts
Speaker 4: in life. The fact that's the school won't let your
Speaker 4: kid play if it's rain the last two days, you
Speaker 4: have to stay inside for recess because they might slip and.
Speaker 2: Some jury will award one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's an unworkable situation for society.
Speaker 4: So I don't and you know, you wouldn't want Starbucks
Speaker 4: to be able to like, here comes my girlfriend's ex boyfriend.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw hot tea in his face at the
Speaker 4: drive through, and there'd be no penalty for that. I mean,
Speaker 4: so there's got to be aligned somewhere obviously.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think we've gotten so far off tracks
Speaker 7: as a society because it's very different than virtually any
Speaker 7: other legal system on Earth.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get a fifty.
Speaker 7: Million dollar reward like this in Argentina or or probably Britain.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 7: But I don't think we as people understand how far
Speaker 7: off we've gotten. And a big reason for that. What
Speaker 7: is the number one profession among legislators.
Speaker 2: It's not even close.
Speaker 4: You know, it's an attorney, right, and the whole jury thing,
Speaker 4: where this is one of the that we regularly say,
Speaker 4: you know, don't make those jokes about how to get
Speaker 4: out of jury duty. Show up on the jury so
Speaker 4: you could say, so you could be there as a
Speaker 4: smart person, say, fifty fifty million dollars is insane, Yes,
Speaker 4: because you gotta. I'm guessing you got a jury fro
Speaker 4: of peoples of Starbucks is rich, they can afford it.
Speaker 4: I don't like them anyway. You know that sort of thing, right, Yeah, yeah, boy.
Speaker 7: If there's one technology mankind has not perfected, it's the
Speaker 7: getting the cup lid to click on the cup.
Speaker 2: Thing in the world of coffee.
Speaker 7: And you know, granted, I'm a I'm an older fellow now,
Speaker 7: and I I've learned the hard lessons of life, sometimes
Speaker 7: more than once, usually more than once before I absorb them. Boy,
Speaker 7: anybody who has boiling hot coffee and assumes that lid
Speaker 7: is on their right, you are a bold man and
Speaker 7: a foolish one.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just when I heard that, I just thought, oh crap,
Speaker 4: this is gonna lead to even more Sorry, we can't
Speaker 4: allow you to do this stuff.
Speaker 2: Or do you get like room temperature coffee?
Speaker 4: Right, coffee can't ever be? That might be the reaction
Speaker 4: from Starbucks, No more hot coffee. I know lots of
Speaker 4: people order stuff extra hot, because I've known Barista's order
Speaker 4: stuff extra hot. It's already so hot. You can't drink it.
Speaker 4: But it's the idea that it'll be it's so hot
Speaker 4: that by the time you get to work on your
Speaker 4: fifteen minute commute, it'll still be hot.
Speaker 2: Well I'll bet that goes out the window after this settlement. Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I shouldn't say this, but everybody's thinking about it,
Speaker 7: so I will. So this guy got fifty million dollars
Speaker 7: because he could never have sex again?
Speaker 2: Was he any good at it? I mean, does that
Speaker 2: factor into the juries? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean you think they should interview previous lovers and say, so,
Speaker 4: how much of a loss is this for humanity? Well?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean because it's obviously lost to him, no
Speaker 7: matter his skills, but to humanity, because shouldn't that be
Speaker 7: a fifty to fifty thing on loss of consortium, et cetera.
Speaker 2: On a scale of me to Wow? Where was he exactly?
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm asking these questions. I don't have the answers.
Speaker 4: YEA, God, dang it, I saw I meant to get
Speaker 4: to this. Maybe I'll get to it later. National Review
Speaker 4: had a good piece about various laws and regulations that
Speaker 4: Trump people are taking off the books and where a
Speaker 4: bunch of them came from. And there's a lot of
Speaker 4: stuff like this that, uh, you know, if you're a
Speaker 4: ladder company, you have to put warning labels on there
Speaker 4: do not dance on top of the ladder or whatever,
Speaker 4: because somebody did it and fell off and was sued
Speaker 4: successfully with a jury like this for five million dollars.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I wasn't supposed to dance standing on top of a ladder. No,
Speaker 4: they didn't say anything.
Speaker 7: And this all that crap is because of these jury decisions, right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's awful. Speaking of giant trends in American society, coming
Speaker 7: up next hour, we have stopped doing the very thing
Speaker 7: that made us a great country and a great economy.
Speaker 7: I will explain with scholarly back up again next hour.
Speaker 7: If you don't get next hour, grab it via podcast
Speaker 7: later on today Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 4: Who was I talking to the other day that had
Speaker 4: a meeting with their corporate person?
Speaker 2: Who would I have been talking to? I don't talk
Speaker 2: to anyone anyway.
Speaker 4: They met with their corporate CEO for a major corporation
Speaker 4: and they were having a discussion about AI, and I said,
Speaker 4: what was the gist of it? And the gist of
Speaker 4: it was, we're not going to need any of you anymore.
Speaker 4: Who in this gets rolling And we've all heard this
Speaker 4: sort of stuff. If you're paying attention to AI at all,
Speaker 4: that all kinds of different jobs will go by the wayside.
Speaker 2: And a lot of the jobs that were the.
Speaker 4: Most sure thing in our economy are the ones that
Speaker 4: are going to be going first. So that has everybody concerned.
Speaker 4: But we're not there yet. AI search engines cite incorrect
Speaker 4: sources at an alarming sixty rate. A new study shows
Speaker 4: so a lot of people like me, when you google something,
Speaker 4: you're going with the AI version at the top of
Speaker 4: the list for the answer and thinking it's probably close enough.
Speaker 2: It might not be that close.
Speaker 4: AI models incorrectly answered more than sixty percent of queries
Speaker 4: about news sources. They have a tendency too, and this
Speaker 4: has been an ongoing problem with AI. Make stuff up.
Speaker 4: AI is like your five year old.
Speaker 2: It just makes stuff up.
Speaker 4: And you have to realize that if your five year
Speaker 4: old comes in and says, you know, a kid named
Speaker 4: Jimmy down the street punched me, Maybe that happened. Maybe
Speaker 4: there is no Jimmy. They just said that for who
Speaker 4: knows what reason.
Speaker 2: That's the way.
Speaker 7: That's the way AI is it just makes stuff up.
Speaker 7: But sixty percent is that what you said? Yes, hang
Speaker 7: on a second, let me use my chat cheept jack.
Speaker 2: That's almost half.
Speaker 4: They ran sixteen hundred qureries across eight different generative search
Speaker 4: tools and came up with that sixty percent number. Surprisingly,
Speaker 4: premium paid versions of these AI search tools fared even
Speaker 4: worse than certain respects. Perplexity Pro, which is twenty dollars
Speaker 4: a month, and GROC three that's Elon's thing, which is
Speaker 4: forty dollars a month, confidently delivered incorrect responses more often
Speaker 4: than their free counterparts. For some reason, this is around
Speaker 4: the news stuff, so you pay for less accuracy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right again around news stuff. I don't know if, like,
Speaker 4: for instance, Groc's claiming it's good at that. Mostly what
Speaker 4: I see on GROC is its ability to I don't know,
Speaker 4: create music videos or pictures or or hot chicks in
Speaker 4: a cowboy hat if that's what you want, or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: These AI systems seem to be really good at that.
Speaker 4: But in terms of so, they would ask various questions
Speaker 4: about news stories, and GROC might give you a source
Speaker 4: that wasn't the source, or make one up or create
Speaker 4: a link to the information that doesn't exist. It would
Speaker 4: just make up a link. And they don't see help
Speaker 4: people no, and they don't seem to be.
Speaker 2: Well. I'm unashamed.
Speaker 4: They know that they don't know why AI does this right,
Speaker 4: and as we've said before, they're not exactly sure if
Speaker 4: it's fixable. But AI ain't gonna take over the world
Speaker 4: if they can't figure that out.
Speaker 7: I I don't see how that happens right, right, it
Speaker 7: could absolutely take over a significant number of professions that
Speaker 7: are fairly limited in scope. There's a great piece in
Speaker 7: the journal about how high school and college students especially
Speaker 7: are using AI to cheat always, everywhere, all the time.
Speaker 7: Not every kid, certainly, but man, they go into all
Speaker 7: the different ways. They tell the story of a seventeen
Speaker 7: year old girl in New Jersey. He uses it all
Speaker 7: the time. She's only been busted once. Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 7: She turned to open IA's Open, AI's chat GPT, and
Speaker 7: Google's Gemini to help spawn ideas and review concepts, which
Speaker 7: many teachers allow more often. Though AI completed her work,
Speaker 7: she solved math homework problems and ACE to take home
Speaker 7: test chat GPT.
Speaker 2: Did I got a message for this? Kid, you're only
Speaker 2: hurting yourself.
Speaker 7: That is both true and hilarious. Let's see chat GPT
Speaker 7: did calculations for a science lab. It produced a tricky
Speaker 7: section of a history term paper, which she rewrote to
Speaker 7: avoid detection. And again, though she used it in virtually
Speaker 7: every class, she only got busted once.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the math thing, hmm, that's a tough one because
Speaker 4: you problem not probably, I'm sure this is true. I'm
Speaker 4: sure you can have AI even show the work and
Speaker 4: you could just write down the work the whole show
Speaker 4: your work thing. Right, So, but I was wondering about
Speaker 4: so if I'm writing a paper, this would save a
Speaker 4: lot of time. And there's no way you'd ever bust
Speaker 4: me on this. This is just where we are in
Speaker 4: the modern world. Hey, GROC, I need a founding father
Speaker 4: saying something about the importance of borders, and it finds
Speaker 4: me one and I don't have to dig through twelve
Speaker 4: old timey books and go to the index and read paragraphs.
Speaker 4: It's just right there. I mean, that would be kind
Speaker 4: of cheating. It's certainly easier than it used to be.
Speaker 7: But yes, and there's absolutely a loss to the like
Speaker 7: the indirect educational process because like it or not. As
Speaker 7: you're looking for A, you'll also learn B and C.
Speaker 7: It's practically unavoidable.
Speaker 4: And how could they stop you from running, you know,
Speaker 4: having AI read over your paragraph and you know, make
Speaker 4: it a little better and or just summarize everything very briefly.
Speaker 4: I mean, my daughter's in law school, for instance, And
Speaker 4: a big part of it is you read just reams
Speaker 4: of information, then you outline it, you candense it. You
Speaker 4: you know, boil the concert or the actual you know,
Speaker 4: the things that happened in the case down to the
Speaker 4: concepts that you need to remember.
Speaker 2: Boil U down for me. I'll be at the bar
Speaker 2: at Saint Patrick's day right actly.
Speaker 7: And one more aspect of this problem, especially with academia,
Speaker 7: is that the companies that make these tools are not
Speaker 7: so keen on distributing the tools to identify when somebody
Speaker 7: is using it to cheat because students are their big
Speaker 7: customer base.
Speaker 2: Well, I so they hem and haw about we would
Speaker 2: like to release that to you.
Speaker 4: But it's oh, that's interesting right there. So I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to be anti intellectual. But people have been saying
Speaker 4: this since I was a kid, when computers, when calculators
Speaker 4: first came out, what's the point of me learning this
Speaker 4: as long as there's a calculator. Well, that's really true. Now,
Speaker 4: I mean, if every if every homo sapient in America
Speaker 4: over the age of five, is carrying a computer that
Speaker 4: can do all of this math work, is there a
Speaker 4: value in learning how to do it by hand? In
Speaker 4: case you're on a desert island. There's something I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yes, what certainly is.
Speaker 7: A neurologist could probably explain it to you that you
Speaker 7: have a bedrock understanding of what you're doing and it
Speaker 7: helps you in some way that I, as a politics guy,
Speaker 7: can't really describe to you if I think you lose something.
Speaker 7: But I also think that's the modern world to a
Speaker 7: large except if groc or something is going to write everything.
Speaker 7: It's going to write your legal briefs, it's going to
Speaker 7: write up your business proposal. If it's going to write everything,
Speaker 7: is there a reason to learn to.
Speaker 2: Write this is? Well? Wow, wow, that's that's insane.
Speaker 4: And I mean not just to be like a successful
Speaker 4: humo sapien. I mean, well, I do mean, I mean
Speaker 4: to be a financially like to make it in the world,
Speaker 4: you just need to know how to run GROC.
Speaker 2: Don't you to be better at that? Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you need to write well enough to write what
Speaker 7: you want and tell the computer.
Speaker 2: Final note. John B.
Speaker 7: King Can, a chancellor of the State University of New
Speaker 7: York system former education secretary, said at a conference in October. Quote,
Speaker 7: there are probably lots of students K through twelve and
Speaker 7: higher ed who used check GPT to do their homework
Speaker 7: last night without learning anything.
Speaker 2: That's scary.
Speaker 4: They weren't learning anything in many cases before AI, so
Speaker 4: that's a problem.
Speaker 2: Also, this is discouraging all the way around. I'm checking
Speaker 2: out of the modern world.
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, starting some sort of weird fundamentalist you know, society.
Speaker 4: Tired of being in a good mood. Tune in the
Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty Show. I guess more on the way.
Speaker 6: Doctor Michelle Obama's podcast tanked.
Speaker 8: It's evident she's not the Left's answer to Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2: After all, one is a.
Speaker 7: Thick neck hulk who can squat one thousand pounds and
Speaker 7: the other's Joe Rogan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was somewhat predictable.
Speaker 2: Greg Guttfeld with a nice thing to say about Michelle.
Speaker 4: Oh ma, mother, So I have some breaking ish news
Speaker 4: here from the fingers of Donald Trump on Twitter today,
Speaker 4: the pardons that Sleepy Joe Biden gave to the unselect
Speaker 4: committee of political thugs. This is I'm just reading from
Speaker 4: the President of the United States and many others. So
Speaker 4: the pardons that Sleepy Joe gave are hereby declared void, vacant,
Speaker 4: and of no further force or effect in all capital
Speaker 4: letters because of the fact that they were done by
Speaker 4: auto pen. In other words, Joe Biden did not sign them,
Speaker 4: but more importantly, he did not know anything about them
Speaker 4: exclamation point. The necessary pardoning documents were not explained to or.
Speaker 2: Approved by Biden.
Speaker 4: So and it goes on on more about that and
Speaker 4: how they're going to go ahead and investigate people that
Speaker 4: Joe Biden pardoned and everything like that.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, uh, And he's.
Speaker 7: Well, he's alleged a crime because people use the auto
Speaker 7: pen to pardon their buddies, and and this is a
Speaker 7: serious allegation in hidence, this must be followed conclusion.
Speaker 4: You know, the people that may have committed a crime,
Speaker 4: according to Trump said, the fact is they were probably
Speaker 4: responsible for the documents that were signed on their behalf
Speaker 4: without the knowledge or consent of the worst president in
Speaker 4: the history of the country, crooked Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's storializing there in the middle.
Speaker 4: But go on, he's he's he believes or says he
Speaker 4: believes that a bunch of people that got pardoned wrote
Speaker 4: up the pardons, signed it with an autopen without Joe
Speaker 4: Biden's knowledge, and uh, and they are declared null and
Speaker 4: void by Trump.
Speaker 2: I don't know has this ever gone to court? Does A.
Speaker 4: I doubt the next president has the ability to unpardon
Speaker 4: people unless he could prove obviously they were signed by autopen.
Speaker 4: That would be a different thing. But or I don't
Speaker 4: know if autopen matters or not. I don't have the
Speaker 4: slightest idea.
Speaker 7: No, no, it doesn't. It would have to be both.
Speaker 7: I mean, if your arm's tired and you're if that's
Speaker 7: an official thing, because many bills have been signed with autopen,
Speaker 7: then it's got to be both. It's got to be
Speaker 7: you did not know what was happening, somebody else appropriated
Speaker 7: the pardon power of the president for themselves and issued
Speaker 7: those pardons, and then they signed it with you.
Speaker 4: How would you do an investigation of whether Joe Biden
Speaker 4: knew what he was doing when he signed that stuff,
Speaker 4: because it'd be tough given a certain mental state, even
Speaker 4: if he knew at the time what he was signing
Speaker 4: and why he was signing, and he might not remember.
Speaker 2: Now, right. Yeah.
Speaker 7: In fact, I think that's probably an insurmountable problem. And
Speaker 7: so if I'm the Supreme Court and it could well
Speaker 7: end up there, I would be slapping my forehead, thinking.
Speaker 2: Why do we let to see now? Presidents?
Speaker 7: And I would say, I think we've got to let
Speaker 7: them stand because we can't.
Speaker 2: Prove it either way. Right, Yeah, that is a heck
Speaker 2: of a charge to make, though I.
Speaker 7: Wonder if the Justice Department is going to go, you know,
Speaker 7: actually follow this down the trail of evidence, or if
Speaker 7: if Trump just had a It was issued at twelve
Speaker 7: thirty five in the morning, was
Speaker 4: It really Yeah, the middle of the night, right after
Speaker 4: a diet coke, Armstrong and Getty