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Speaker 1: Fellow conspiracy realist. We are returning to you this evening

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Speaker 1: with episode a classic interview we did back in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty with good friend of the show and personal friend

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Speaker 1: of ours, the legendary Payne Lindsay.

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Speaker 2: Indeed talking about a super cool show called Radio Rental

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Speaker 2: you might be familiar with, where in Pain and his

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Speaker 2: team find incredible, weird stories on Reddit and various other

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Speaker 2: places and then recreate them along with input from the

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Speaker 2: actual people who lived these stories.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and it's usually the actual person telling you

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Speaker 3: a story in first person about what they went through,

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Speaker 3: and dang, is it cool. It's still one of my

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Speaker 3: favorite shows.

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Speaker 2: Guys, all grounded by the wonderfully bizarre Terry Carnation. Let's

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Speaker 2: just address him like he's a real human, because he really.

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Speaker 2: He is portrayed by the incredible Rain Wilson, But boy

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Speaker 2: does he inhabit that character holy and it's impressive and

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We're a vast, we contained multitude. It can be more

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Speaker 1: than one person in once. That's where those guys have

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Speaker 1: some depth. So let's roll the.

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Speaker 4: Tape from UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History

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Speaker 4: is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now

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Speaker 4: or learn this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: A production of iHeart Radios How Stuff Works.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 3: my name is Noela.

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Speaker 5: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 1: We are joined as always with our super producer Paul

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Speaker 1: Mission Controlled decad. Most importantly, you are you. You are here,

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Speaker 1: and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: This is a this is a special episode for us.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty excited about this. We have a returning guest today.

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Speaker 1: Today we're joined by our colleague, longtime friend of ours,

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Speaker 1: Paying Lensy. That's right, the CEO, co founder of Tenderfoot TV.

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Speaker 5: Pain.

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Speaker 1: People will recognize you as the creator and host of

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Speaker 1: podcasts such as Up and Vanished, The Atlanta Monster, and

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Speaker 1: your latest project, which is why we wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: to you today, Radio Rental.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, yeah, thanks for being on the show man. Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Ye yeah, yeah, we've been listening to Radio Rental and

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Speaker 3: with the lights on, well, well yeah for me to start.

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Speaker 3: For me, I actually try and get to the darkest

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Speaker 2: I'd like to listen to it in my sensory deprivation.

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Speaker 5: That's the best place.

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Speaker 3: Actually for me, it's in the car at night after

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Speaker 3: I've driven home from work, like it's getting late so

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Speaker 3: early now here in Atlanta where we are, by the

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Speaker 3: time I'm getting home, if it's like six seven something

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Speaker 3: like that, I'll sit in my car and keep listening

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Speaker 3: to an episode on purpose because the the show itself,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to tell you exactly what it is

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Speaker 3: after this, but the show itself has such an eeriequality

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Speaker 3: to it that it almost intensifies the experience. If you're

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Speaker 3: just alone in a car and it's kind of cold,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I would.

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Speaker 5: Spooky driveway moment.

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Speaker 3: Well, the purpose there is to like in my mind

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Speaker 3: and for me personally, is to it is to enhance

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Speaker 3: the experience, like to to get a an even further

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Speaker 3: sensory experience from something right. And to my mind, what

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Speaker 3: Radio Rental does with the sound design and the way

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Speaker 3: the stories are told, it does give you this sensory

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Speaker 3: experience of being there in a lot of these things.

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Speaker 3: So let's let's let's start off by pain tell us

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Speaker 3: what Radio Rental is, you know, as an overview, and

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Speaker 5: I mean, basically, at its core, Radio Rental.

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Speaker 6: Is just weird bizarre stories, kind of an homage to

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Speaker 6: Are You Afraid of the Dark, And it's presented in

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Speaker 6: this weird way where Rain Wilson is playing this video

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Speaker 6: store clerk who works in this old kind of eighties

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Speaker 6: retro video store called Radio Rental. Radio Rental means it's

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Speaker 6: like British Cockney slang for mad or you've lost your mind.

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Speaker 6: Gone radio rental and rhyme yellow and British Cockney rhyming

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Speaker 6: slangs yea. And so it's my first anthology series where

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Speaker 6: each episode is a new story, and there's about two

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Speaker 6: They're all real stories, and it's the real people telling

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Speaker 6: you them. And so there's other stuff like this out

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Speaker 6: there where people do retellings of stuff, but we put

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of work that has to go

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Speaker 1: on behind the scenes, right, like just for the process

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Speaker 1: questions before you get into some of the real spooky stuff.

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Speaker 1: How from germination of the idea, genesis of the idea,

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Speaker 1: did you and your team have to put into, as

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Speaker 1: you said, finding these people, vetting them, and speaking with them.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it must have been a pretty involved process.

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Speaker 6: It was like every other podcast I've made where I

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Speaker 6: was like, this is a cool idea, let's do this,

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Speaker 6: and then like a few months in, I'm going, this

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Speaker 6: So this was that on a whole new level where

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Speaker 6: I'm very reliant on these people to want to do

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Speaker 5: It will always evolve from there.

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Speaker 6: But I need to set the standard for what is

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Speaker 6: a radio rental story. And you know, it's not every

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Speaker 6: single story that you hear, it's not every scary story.

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Speaker 6: It's this kind of in between area where you know

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Speaker 6: another story. And if you've heard radio Rental at this point,

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Speaker 6: if you hear another story out there, you would know, Okay,

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Speaker 6: that's probably a radio renal story. And so I wanted

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Speaker 6: It was very difficult just to kind of find these

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Speaker 1: So let's dive in a little bit deeper to something

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Speaker 1: I was thinking of the entire time that was listening

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Speaker 1: to the show, which is out now and available wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Do you want to point that out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the full first season, right is, it's.

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Speaker 1: All out and this is so we don't want to

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Speaker 1: spoil too much of the specific episodes, but we do

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Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the things. And one

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Speaker 5: Of fact and fiction.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is a lot of this feels like

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Speaker 1: there's some modern folklore elements to it, sure, which is

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Speaker 1: why I love that you point out are you afraid

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Speaker 5: It could be true element.

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Speaker 1: These are true stories because you did find again, this

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Speaker 1: real people who told you these stories.

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Speaker 1: Were there ever times where you felt the little line

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, I mean there's definitely this line of where

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's a few stories in there for sure

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Speaker 6: I wanted to have a good balanced mix of stories.

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Speaker 6: this is just like unbelievable stories. I don't believe any

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Speaker 6: So and that's how I feel about some of these

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Speaker 5: About it like scratching your hand, like what the what

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Speaker 3: I think there's a pretty good example of this in

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Speaker 3: the news. So let's talk about I'm just I'm calling

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Speaker 3: it the flight. I don't know what you called it

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Speaker 3: in the within the episodes, but we hear about this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it starts off he's a kid at

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden, this flight attendant starts screaming the

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Speaker 6: word no. And obviously anyone's screaming on an airplane, Nope,

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Speaker 6: not a good thing.

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Speaker 5: Even if they're screaming, Yes, it's still.

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Speaker 6: Exactly even that, you're like, come on, give me a Yeah,

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Speaker 6: screaming on an airplane not a good thing. And so

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Speaker 6: eventually that escalates to even louder and he sees this

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Speaker 6: His name was Richard Reid. And this is right after

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Speaker 5: I'm still pissed at Richard for that. Yeah, me, absolutely, Look,

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Speaker 5: Okay, dead eyed robot like Jesus.

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Speaker 6: Physical, enjoy your males, Yeah right, enjoy your one hour.

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Speaker 5: You can't go to Chili's anymore.

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Speaker 1: We'll pause here and return to Radio Rental after a

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Speaker 5: Well that's where we're talking about one miss out.

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, that's one episode in episode or that's one

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Speaker 6: Right, there's a lot of stories, and there's at least

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Speaker 6: So I mean, even when you think you've got it

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, we're familiar calling from inside

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well where you going in and interviewing the person.

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Speaker 3: It's like, uh, now, I you know, have to listen

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys heard this one, but

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Speaker 6: also in the neighborhood that no one knows who lives there,

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00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 6: and you know, you never see him go in and now,

442
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 6: but you know someone's in there. Everyone knows everybody but

443
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 6: these people, right, And so he's playing by the creek

444
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 6: right outside of this house, and he gets this overwhelming fear,

445
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 6: a feeling of just fear, and he turns around and

446
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 6: he sees this girl who's standing there, and as he

447
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 6: tells you the story, your first thought is that this

448
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 6: is a ghost because it's so surreal. It doesn't make

449
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 6: any sense, right, this person's out there. She looks really weird.

450
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 6: She's younger, but she has this weird hair, and her

451
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 6: outfit doesn't really fit her right. But either way, he

452
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,239
Speaker 6: becomes friends with her, and you're like, okay. And so

453
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 6: he spends several weeks that summer playing with her out

454
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 6: there in the woods.

455
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: And like physically doing things with.

456
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 6: Her on the swing and you know, just physically playing

457
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 6: out there in the creek.

458
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 3: Even she showed him what a cigarette is.

459
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 6: Right one day, she was like, hey, I want to

460
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 6: show you something. She took him to this tree and

461
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 6: she had carved her in am in it Laura. And

462
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 6: she put her hands a little hole in the tree

463
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 6: and pulled out this pack of marble red cigarettes and

464
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 6: taught him out of smoke. And he felt a little crazy,

465
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 6: like all bad, Oh man, I'm doing something real bad.

466
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 6: And she chiefed like ten cigarettes he smoked maybe a

467
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 6: half a cigarette.

468
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 5: Probably coughed his gut stead bite puked afterwards.

469
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, he he became friends with this girl,

470
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 6: and you know, he told his sister about it, and

471
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 6: they're like, okay, they got a little girlfriend in the woods.

472
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 5: Whatever.

473
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 6: And then one day he went out there and she

474
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 6: was just gone, just nowhere to be found. Weeks went by,

475
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 6: months went by, never saw her ever again, and he

476
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 6: was like, what happened, you.

477
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, where did she?

478
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 5: God, you move whatever?

479
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 6: And she had told him that she lived in that

480
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 6: creepy house, right, she told him that he that she

481
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 6: lived there on the third floor, and that she was

482
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 6: an only child, and you know, she had a mom

483
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 6: and dad who lived with her too, but she was

484
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 6: the only child and she was homeschooled. So he thought, okay,

485
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 6: maybe she's back, and maybe she got in trouble or something,

486
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 6: or she's just back in her house. Anyway, school starts

487
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 6: back up again and he goes back to the public school,

488
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, that house, that creepy house,

489
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 6: it goes up for sale, and so everyone of the

490
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 6: neighborhood's like, I want to go see the inside of

491
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 6: this house, right, and he's like, mom, we have to

492
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 6: go in here.

493
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 5: Also, I want to see if Laura's in there, right, like,

494
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 5: where's Laura?

495
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 6: And so they go to this open house right and

496
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 6: the mother is giving the tour and he sees what

497
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 6: is obviously her dad and then what is obviously her

498
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 6: mother because it looks just like Laura, like almost exactly

499
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 6: like her in the face.

500
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 5: So he's like, okay, there has to be your mom.

501
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 5: You know, where's Laura?

502
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 6: And so they're going through the tour and then they

503
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 6: stop on the second floor and the lady's like, yep,

504
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 6: and that's the whole house. And he's like, I know

505
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 6: that there's a third floor because I know that's.

506
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 5: Where Laura lives.

507
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 6: And his mom asked the lady it was like, hey,

508
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 6: you know, like I'm so glad to finally meet you.

509
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 6: We've been here for years and we never knew who

510
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 6: lived here. It's you know, we're so curious. And she

511
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 6: was like, yes, sorry, we don't want to leave the

512
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 6: house much after our daughter died a few years ago.

513
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 5: And he's like, holy shit, well what or who was

514
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: I playing with in the woods.

515
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 6: And then the mom does this really creepy thing where

516
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 6: she looks at him and says, what's wrong, boy, It

517
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 6: looks like you've seen a ghost.

518
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 5: And he's like, stop, chill.

519
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 6: And so all of a sudden, his mom and his

520
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 6: sister both looking at him, like, what the hell have

521
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 6: you been playing with in the woods?

522
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 5: Whatever is going on? You can't go out in the

523
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 5: woods anymore. You're in trouble.

524
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 6: And so he said one time he broke the rules

525
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 6: and he did go back out there because he was

526
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 6: convinced that Laura was being held captive in the house,

527
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 6: that something bad was going on.

528
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 5: It made no sense. There was no way it was

529
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 5: a ghost. The third floor makes.

530
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 6: Sense, right, she was being weird, the ghosts comment, and

531
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 6: he physically touched her. He smoked the cigarettes with her, right,

532
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 6: And so he goes out there one day and he

533
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 6: looks up at the house and the mom's just on

534
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 6: the third floor looking down at him, just staring at him,

535
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 6: and he said, it scare the sh of him.

536
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 5: And he never went back after that, And.

537
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 6: So for decades he lived with this story where he's like,

538
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 6: you know, what the hell happened? He told a few people,

539
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 6: and then years later he was back in that same

540
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 6: property because one of his family members and his uncle

541
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 6: bought the property nearby, and so like they were out

542
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 6: there in the woods, very close to where that area

543
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 6: was in that house, and someone in his family just

544
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 6: brought up, hey, remember.

545
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 5: The whole Laura the Woods story. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

546
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 5: They're like, let's go see it, man, Let's go see

547
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: that tree.

548
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 6: And says like, all right, whatever, And so he takes

549
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: his whole family over there, and as they kind of

550
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 6: wind through the woods, he sees the tree Laura carved

551
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 6: in it. He walks up to the tree, pushs his

552
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 6: hand in the hole, pulls out a pack of Marlborough's

553
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 6: Red cigarettes.

554
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 5: Decades later, cigarette still in there.

555
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 6: Wow. Everyone in his family's like, okay, this this is terrifying.

556
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 6: And he's like, okay, what was my childhood? What was

557
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 6: going on this whole time? And he said that weeks

558
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 6: later it was on his mind every day and he

559
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 6: was just having this really vivid nightmare one night and

560
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 6: he basically woke up and came to the conclusion that

561
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 6: he had this nightmare where he's walking through the woods

562
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 6: and then he saw Laura sitting on a bench and

563
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 6: then he like taps on the shoulder and she turns

564
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 6: around and looks at him, and she grabs her hair

565
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 6: and starts pulling on her hair and starts coming off,

566
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 6: and it's a wig. And it was literally the mother

567
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 6: the whole time, pretending to be a little girl in

568
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 6: the woods. And he's once he kind of snapped, I

569
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 6: guess into reality and realized what it was. He kind

570
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 6: of realized that he knew this all along, that he

571
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 6: and he was just somehow suppressing it or something. And

572
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 6: it was I mean, for decades it was a mystery.

573
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 6: But to me it was the scariest because it wasn't

574
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 6: a ghost. What's scarier than a ghost an old lady

575
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 6: pretending to be a little girl in the woods because

576
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 6: she's like snapped because or something out of grief or whatever. Right,

577
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 6: that's to me really scared me. And the guy was

578
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 6: so genuine. It's a real story, and just like the

579
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 6: way he was talking about it, I just that's the

580
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 6: one I just couldn't shake.

581
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 5: I was like, this is just gives me the I

582
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 5: don't even know it was like.

583
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: But it's like that wouldn't have been in the news

584
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: or anything. How do you find this guy?

585
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 6: I found this story on Reddit and what's funny is

586
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 6: actually actually Mike found it on Reddit and it didn't

587
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 6: have that many likes even. It was just kind of

588
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 6: just buried in some subreddit I'm not even sure which one.

589
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 6: And I saw in the comments that some guy said, hey,

590
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 6: that's my story. You stole my story. This didn't happen

591
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 6: to you. I originally posted this on some other random

592
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 6: like band's website, like in their like forum, and so

593
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 6: we go to that, and sure enough, this guy posted

594
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 6: this story years earlier. This was like back in twenty ten,

595
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 6: this guy posted this, and I was like, what are

596
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 6: the chances this guy gets back to me? And sure

597
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: enough he did, and I was like, man, this is

598
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 6: like the scariest story ever. I hope he doesn't bail.

599
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 6: And literally he messed at the hotel and the first

600
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: thing he said was, hey, guys, not gonna lie. I

601
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 6: almost bailed in the lobby. I was like, dude, just

602
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 6: because he was like having second thoughts on should I

603
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 6: tell this story?

604
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 5: Like should I? You know, is this dumb? I was like, no, man,

605
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 5: this is like, this is a genuinely scary story, and

606
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 5: I believe you. Let's tell it.

607
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 6: I mean, like, that's the thing about you know, some people,

608
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 6: you know, if they're like doubters, might want to say,

609
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 6: you know, this story isn't true or you know whatever,

610
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 6: but like to be honest. On the other side of this,

611
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 6: the production side of this, most of these people were

612
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 6: very reluctant at times to tell all the details because

613
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 6: they are real stories and they're just like any other

614
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 6: interview subject to experience something scary, they're like, yeah, no

615
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 6: one's gonna believe me, or you know, it was a

616
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 6: horrifying experience that they're you know, cautious about reliving.

617
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: You know, that's really what we're experiencing most of.

618
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 6: The time, is like people being like, I don't know,

619
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 6: they're not just chopping at the bit to tell me

620
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 6: their story for radio rental, right, right, exactly, futal experience

621
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 6: that it's kind of scary, right Yeah.

622
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: And there's one there's one thing that I respect avenously

623
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: is I know that you and your team did did

624
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: a lot of fact checking too, like does this match up.

625
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 5: With this chronology? Right? Absolutely?

626
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: And what's interesting about Laura and the Woods in particular,

627
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: which goes to something that you mentioned, is this absolutely

628
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: this absolutely could happen, and until there is a crime

629
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: committed an actual crime, there's no there's no reason law

630
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: enforce would be involved. It's not there's not a law

631
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: against dressing up as your deceased child.

632
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, how would you write it?

633
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a quick break and have a word

634
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: from our sponsor and then back with more from pain lendsy.

635
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: And we are back. Can I bring up a story

636
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: that it feels very similar to this to me. It's

637
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: one that's just titled ham and cheese, like it's it's

638
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: just a ham and cheese sandwich or whatever you exactly.

639
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: I was written terrifying, So it's a perfect it's a

640
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: perfect story for us to discuss on this show. It's

641
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: it's about a man who's working as a sandwich I

642
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: forget the title of it, but he makes sandwiches with

643
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: subway right, yes, and he's just at work one day.

644
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: He says he lives in kind of a CD part

645
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: of town, so people are a little cautious, but it's not,

646
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: you know, terribly scary out there. He's just at a subway, right,

647
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: and he's going about his every day. Some dude walks

648
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: in and I don't I can't remember exactly how he

649
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: describes him. All I remember is he looks. I think

650
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: he's got like dark dark features, like dark.

651
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 6: He was middle Eastern, okay, and he said he described

652
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 6: him looking a little bit like him, not like exactly,

653
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 6: but kind of same kind of dark features, uh you know,

654
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 6: dark eyebrows, yeah, thing.

655
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: And kind of a younger man. And the one thing

656
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: he really noticed was the man always kept his hand

657
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: in his like his waistband in the.

658
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: Back, yeah, behind his back, kind of thumbing his waistband, Like,

659
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 6: what are you doing back there?

660
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: Man?

661
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 6: And he got this vibe when he walked into just

662
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 6: like just kind of instincts like something's not right about

663
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 6: this guy, Like, you know, is.

664
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: There a gun behind his back? Is there a knight?

665
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: Like?

666
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 5: What is he doing?

667
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? And he's being really quiet and just you know

668
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: if he's going to say, if he says anything, it's

669
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: quick and and that's it. And the dude is super

670
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: nervous there making. He asked him, you know, what do

671
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: you want? The dude just says ham and cheese.

672
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 5: Or ham and Swiss and Swiss, yeah, Swiss.

673
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: And so you know, as a sandwich professional there, I

674
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: forget this artist. Sandwich artist artist, he's making the sandwich

675
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: and everything. And then he has to ask him, do

676
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: you want it toasted?

677
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 5: Right?

678
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: And there's this moment where he knows he's getting this

679
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: vibe off of this guy, like something's wrong.

680
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: Is this going to be a robbery?

681
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly totally, And he he has to ask him,

682
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: do you want it toasted? And he knows that to

683
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: toast it. If he does want it, He's got to

684
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: turn his back to the dude for a little bit.

685
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 5: Wait, they toasted subway. I thought that was only quiz

686
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 5: exclusive man been toasting in California somewhere. This is in

687
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 5: La somewhere, Okay.

688
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: So so he asked him this and the guy's just like, yeah, fine, whatever, Yeah,

689
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: toast it. So he turns around to do this thing.

690
00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: Are our protagonist here is really really nervous and there's

691
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: nothing on this sandwich but bread, ham and Swiss, and

692
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: he just turns around to do He's like wrapping it

693
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: up to put it in the toaster, and for some reason,

694
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: his nerves get to him, everything gets to him, and

695
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: the sandwich falls, right, he drops the sandwcharps the sandwich man,

696
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: and it lands in a very certain, a very certain way.

697
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 7: Right.

698
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: It's almost like a pattern with this.

699
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, he just kind of like as soon as he

700
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 6: dropped it, which he'd never done in a thousand times,

701
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 6: and he drops the sandwich and like right as he's

702
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 6: dropping it, it's like time slowed down or something, and

703
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 6: this overwhelming rush of deja vu kind of hits him.

704
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 6: And so as the sandwich is falling and the way

705
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 6: the cheese landed, he was like really kind of taking

706
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 6: note of what it looked like and was like, just

707
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 6: had this dejau vu. I've been here, I've seen this

708
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 6: before a thing. And like right after he gets out

709
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 6: of his own head, he looks up because he's like,

710
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 6: oh shit, that guy's here. And he's just gone, like

711
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 6: not there at all. Didn't hear the door open or close.

712
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 6: Had only been a couple of seconds maybe, And his

713
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 6: first instinct is where is this guy? So he runs

714
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 6: out in the parking lot. There's not even a car

715
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: in the parking lot. There's nothing there. He even goes

716
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 6: around the corner. There's just no people around. Right now,

717
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 6: He's like, that makes no sense. How did that happen? Like,

718
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess he ran. Was there a getaway car?

719
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: No see in the restroom or something that would be

720
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: the only other option no.

721
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 6: No, nowhere to be found. And he's like, okay, whatever, right,

722
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 6: weird enough, but it gets weirder, Yeah, because I think

723
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 6: it's a week or so.

724
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: A little while out. Yeah, and he's back, you know,

725
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: at work doing his thing and here's the door open

726
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: and looks up and it's really strange because it looks

727
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: like pretty much the same guy but older. Yeah, like

728
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: really really similar almost, if not the same guy, but older,

729
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: Like yeah, discernibly older. Right, Yes, dude comes up ask

730
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: for a sandwich? What does he asked for?

731
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 5: Ham and Swiss.

732
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 6: He's got that same vibe to this, just kind of like, okay,

733
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 6: the same vibe that the other guy gave him as

734
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 6: soon as he walked in and then we said hamm

735
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 6: and Swiss. He's like, okay, what's going on? But I

736
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 6: mean also, you know, common sandwich. But then when he

737
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 6: noticed him thumbing in his waistband, yeah, he's like, oh,

738
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 6: you're kidding me, right, Like wow, what is this person doing?

739
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 5: Is he messing with me?

740
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 6: Is this it?

741
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

742
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 6: And so he gets to the part where he has

743
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 6: to ask him if he wants it toasted, and this,

744
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 6: to him is like the drum roll ultimate test. If

745
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 6: I'm gonna die or if this is just the weirdest

746
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 6: thing ever, if he says yes, I'm gonna die.

747
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

748
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 6: And so he asked the guy do you want it toasted?

749
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 6: And he's just like, nah, I'm good. And he's like, oh, okay, cool,

750
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 6: So he's good.

751
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 5: It's all good.

752
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 6: Is fine, and then he goes through the checkout process

753
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 6: and he goes it's kind of tangent about how and

754
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 6: I guess there's some tax or something in California if

755
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 6: you want it.

756
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 3: Or for hot food.

757
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 5: For hot food, if you wanted it toasted.

758
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: It's been cooked. Basically, if you used energy in order to.

759
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 5: Write cook the food, it's like ten cents or something.

760
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 6: But they have a conversation about that, and then the

761
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 6: guy kind of gives him a snark remark back and

762
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 6: was like, you know, I would have paid the tax.

763
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 6: It's not why I that's not why I didn't it

764
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 6: come on, and he was like yeah, obviously, and so

765
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 6: he's kind of like whatever, and he pays for the sandwich,

766
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 6: and then he walks to the door and he's just

767
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 6: turns around and looks at him, and he kind of

768
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 6: gives him this all knowing grin, and he just says,

769
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 6: I still want you to drop it and then walks

770
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 6: out the door. It's like what and he said, it

771
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 6: literally just scared the out of it.

772
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 5: Beautiful.

773
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: And then, for a background for anybody who's not too

774
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: familiar with the Sandwich Change Subway, a lot of people

775
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: probably hearing this story, hearing Radio Rental and thinking, well,

776
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: doesn't he have co workers or something? Not really subway

777
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: is yeah, the subway is notorious for having one to

778
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: like a maximum of three people, you know, totally, totally,

779
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: So Souders said, you know, if I'm paraphrasing that, the

780
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: mark of a good story to him is that when

781
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: the story is over, you don't want it to end.

782
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: You want to know what else happens to the characters.

783
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: And that's one thing that I think is powerful about

784
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: this this story in particular, because like everybody listening now

785
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: to this episode, listening to Radio Rental is probably going

786
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: to say, well, what happened to la Sandwich guy?

787
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 5: Is like, is he all right?

788
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: So I wanted to pose it to you guys, like

789
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: for potential possibilities of what happened there, and we you know,

790
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: assuming that this is an absolute true story and it

791
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: happened the way this this person said it happened, right,

792
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 3: So is it possible that it's like like a father

793
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 3: and son who are incredibly similar and like the son

794
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: told him a story. What do you think? Is it

795
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: a time travel situation or is it a.

796
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: Really elaborate kind of stalking kind of like troll kind

797
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: of situation that's him?

798
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe, but why did he

799
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: look so different and so much older only a couple

800
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: of weeks later?

801
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: And elaborate prank sounds a little Rube goldberg Ess for this,

802
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: a little like the mouse trap game. But the first

803
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: thing I had thought of was, you know, a familial

804
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: relation uncle son, father son, something like that, given the

805
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: age difference.

806
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: But to what end though, I don't understand, Like, like

807
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: what what's the what's what are you accomplishing?

808
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: We travel to La a lot man, that place is crazy,

809
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: that's a weirdo. Yeah, but that the familial relation could

810
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: also explain certain physical habits like tucking one arm back.

811
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: Just a major coincidence, right, maybe maybe, but that's the thing.

812
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: You know, that's uh, there are like we can we

813
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: can all rationally accept one to two coincidences, right, but

814
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: as a coincidence as they accrete over the course of

815
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: something with the similarities the sandwich, even though I think

816
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: we're all being pretty fair in our skepticism, Like you

817
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: pointed out pain, You're like, well, it's a common sandwich,

818
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: but they have they make many different kinds of sandwiches.

819
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: So we've got physical similarity, right, We've got physical similar mannerisms,

820
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: same sandwich. We've got what appears to be a reference

821
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: to the earlier situation.

822
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 7: Right.

823
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: One of the questions I would ask is did the

824
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: door ding when the guy opened it and walked out,

825
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: because we see him walk out. She remembers no sound

826
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: of the dan in the first time.

827
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the first time. So yeah, I don't know. I

828
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 5: don't know.

829
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: It's a it's a almost like trying to figure out

830
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts behind a magic trick.

831
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Yeah, I did have one printed question. He

832
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: is in California, Yep, A certain substance is legal there.

833
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: He is at work, Yeah, Like, were you high?

834
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 5: He said he wasn't.

835
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, because that that moment, I'm not saying I

836
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: recognize this moment or identify with it, but the moment

837
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: of like something happening, like oh man, I just dropped

838
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: the sandwich I was making for somebody, and I watched

839
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: it hit the ground, And it's intriguing to me for

840
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 3: some reason or another. If in that state, I could

841
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: imagine that it takes longer than you thought, Like you

842
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 3: spend more time staring at the cheese than you thought totally,

843
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: and maybe you're like tuned out a little more. That

844
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: dude just like takes off and you're just like, oh man,

845
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: this feels weird. Wait where did that guy go?

846
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, And this guy was totally willing to accept

847
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 6: that as what happened, right, He's not like this had

848
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 6: to be some ripple and time. He's like, you know,

849
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 6: rationally he's speaking. It was probably a guy who was

850
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 6: gonna try to rob him. In the beginning, he freaked

851
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 6: out and like didn't realize how long he looked at

852
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 6: the ground and was super nervous in his own head.

853
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 6: And the guy just darted out of there quickly and

854
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 6: just got the hell out. And then the next week

855
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 6: or two was just a super strange coincidence. And that

856
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 6: guy has no idea how much it terrified him, but

857
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 6: it was really kind of just the way that it

858
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 6: felt to him. It was like you know, and maybe

859
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 6: he just played it up in his head, because I mean,

860
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 6: the guy when he looked at him leaving the second time,

861
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 6: he just said he had this vibe, this feeling about

862
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 6: him where he's like, gotcha, you son of a bitch,

863
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 6: And he was like, it just felt like that to me.

864
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 6: Maybe that's in his own head, but like it was

865
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 6: really just the feelings and the way that like his

866
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 6: own sensory was kind of going on off, coupled with

867
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 6: all the coincidences and just the strangeness of it that

868
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 6: made him feel like maybe it was something more.

869
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 5: Maybe it could be something more, but like what and

870
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 5: he doesn't know.

871
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that that ambiguity too, is a

872
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: huge part of it, because everybody has had We've all

873
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: had some moment in our lives where something at the

874
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: very edge of the map of things we can explain occurs. Right,

875
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Speaker 1: And you know, as people are listening to this episode,

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Speaker 1: we're probably hearing stories. As a matter of fact, you

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Speaker 1: know what, right to us, right to nol Paine, Matt

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Speaker 1: Paul and I with your own strange stories.

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Speaker 5: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you guys still accepting stories.

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Speaker 5: For the future?

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Speaker 3: We are.

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Speaker 6: We've had a bunch of amazing submissions. We have an

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Speaker 6: email if you want to send them. It's just your

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Speaker 6: Scary Story at gmail dot com. So if you have

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Speaker 6: what you think is your radio Rental story and you

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Speaker 6: want to tell it, then we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well, you know we're we're getting close to

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Speaker 3: time here. I do want to bring up just before

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Speaker 3: we close here, there are some stories in there about

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Speaker 3: real encounters with killers. Oh yeah, in in Radio Rental,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not going to spoil those because those are

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Speaker 3: some of the most impactful stories within the show, and

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Speaker 3: for me, we can. I just want to mention some

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Speaker 3: of the names. So, like, if you're interested out there

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Speaker 3: listening to this and you want to look up some

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Speaker 3: of these killers that I was somewhat unaware of before

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Speaker 3: listening to this. You guys touch on Mark Goodou, the

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Speaker 3: baseline killer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah in Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a story in there that is so

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Speaker 3: freaking creepy.

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Speaker 5: That's one of the scariest ones. I think.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree. I mean, talk to you stop, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who was that, by the way, and who said can

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Speaker 3: I talk to.

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Speaker 6: So the lady that I was interviewing, she was really

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Speaker 6: sweet and she had a great voice, and she just

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Speaker 6: went into the character and was like, yeah, I went,

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Speaker 6: you know, open the window, and.

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Speaker 5: He just said can I talk to you?

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Speaker 6: And so she that's her ddit and we just kind

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Speaker 6: of like altered her voice a couple of times to

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Speaker 6: kind of make it, but she whispered it several times in.

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Speaker 5: Her interview and I was like, Wow, it was creepy

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Speaker 5: hearing her just imitate him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not right, And that's a story. I don't

919
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Speaker 3: want to spoil any of that. It's just it's there's

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Speaker 3: another story about another serial killer that ends up getting

921
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Speaker 3: encountered in Baton Rouge, in Bad Rouge, where there's that

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Speaker 3: moment where this guy could have been picked up by

923
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Speaker 3: police that night. If things that would have gone one way,

924
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Speaker 3: he could have also killed this person's girlfriend that night.

925
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Speaker 3: And so when you think about just the concept of

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Speaker 3: multi universes, which we like to have talked about a

927
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Speaker 3: lot on this show, where all of these different things

928
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Speaker 3: are occurring, you know, somewhere out there within this realm

929
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Speaker 3: that the story that you have exists in this version

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Speaker 3: of our reality where again I won't spoil it, but

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Speaker 3: what happened happened in that story.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: So what our Pain and Matt talking about. We won't

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Speaker 5: tell you, but.

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Speaker 1: You can learn for yourself when you dive into radio rental.

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Speaker 1: The first season is available in its entirety now wherever

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Speaker 1: you're listening to podcasts, wherever you found this show, probably

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Speaker 1: and we guarantee you it's a wild ride. Also, I

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Speaker 1: love that we mentioned this earlier. When I hit it again,

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Speaker 1: you may end up being part of a part of

942
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Speaker 1: the narrative in subsequent seasons.

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Speaker 5: If that is, you have a story of your.

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Speaker 1: Own and you email Pain and his team in the meantime.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Paint as always, thank you so much for

946
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Speaker 1: being so generous with your time. Man, Sure coming on,

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure. If you have not checked out

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Speaker 1: Up and Vanished, then do check it out. If you

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Speaker 5: Those are both available in their entirety.

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Speaker 1: You can also check out uh, the the second iteration

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Speaker 1: of Monster Matt and are you okay if I if

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Speaker 1: I plug this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: It's a Monster Monster Zodiac which features our own Matt

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called Monster the Zodiac Killer and last thing,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go for it. Monster DC Sniper is

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Speaker 3: it's really great hosted by Tony Harris. He's a word

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Speaker 4: Done.

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