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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, March seventeenth, and Florida it's

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Speaker 1: scheduled to carry out its fourth execution of the year tonight,

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Speaker 1: and it's for a crime that made national headlines and

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Speaker 1: ultimately changed the way nine to one point one operators

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Speaker 1: function in the state of Florida.

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Speaker 2: And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes.

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Speaker 2: In terms of how long people spend on death row,

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Speaker 2: this is actually, first of all, point out a case

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Speaker 2: that happened pretty quickly to go from conviction to execution.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was convicted in two thousand and nine, the

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Speaker 3: crime was committed in two thousand and eight, and yes,

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Speaker 3: less than twenty years on death row is actually a

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Speaker 3: speedy period of time between conviction and execution.

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Speaker 2: These days, unheard of, it seems almost this is really

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Speaker 2: certain under two decades, that's something.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and this was a tremendous case. It's interesting when

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Speaker 3: we have been covering a lot of these executions, many

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Speaker 3: times we will focus on the inmate who is being executed,

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Speaker 3: correct his appeals, his claims of innocence, and he due

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Speaker 3: process that was denied him. This story, in so many ways,

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Speaker 3: is more about the victim and what happened because of

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Speaker 3: the crime, and.

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Speaker 2: We should certainly point out that should always be the case,

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Speaker 2: that should always be the focal point. But this one

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Speaker 2: for unique reasons that you'll hear hear why this crime

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Speaker 2: made national headlines. It's understandable now and robes. Michael Lee

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Speaker 2: King is the name. He's fifty four years old years

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Speaker 2: old now, but he is scheduled to die by lethal

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Speaker 2: injection tonight. They do a three drug cocktail down there

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Speaker 2: in Florida, but's supposed to happened around six o'clock. We

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Speaker 2: do end up seeing robes usually by six fifteen, six'

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Speaker 2: twenty that we get final confirmation of the. Deaths but

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Speaker 2: this is always it's something we go through in this,

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Speaker 2: country almost, ceremony it feels sometimes and the steps that are,

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Speaker 2: taken but just will always want. Acknowledgeable these are solemn

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Speaker 2: moments and times that we are executing someone and usually

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Speaker 2: always the case because they killed someone. Else so this

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Speaker 2: is these always difficult days and certainly for the families.

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Speaker 3: By all, accounts and tonight in the execution chamber this

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Speaker 3: will be a packed room because the victim in this

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Speaker 3: case at the time was just twenty one years. Old

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Speaker 3: her Name denise Amber. Lee she was a mom of

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Speaker 3: a toddler and an, infant and her, husband almost twenty years,

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Speaker 3: later has still spent almost every day of his life

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Speaker 3: fighting for, change fighting for, justice and he will be

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Speaker 3: in that execution chamber witnessing the death Of, king alongside

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Speaker 3: her oldest, son her, mother her, father her. Sister so

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Speaker 3: many members of her family all say they plan to

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Speaker 2: Tonight, yeah and they're all. Different sometimes some of these

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Speaker 2: go so, long they've lasted so, long and it's up

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Speaker 2: to forty years sometimes that most of the family members

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Speaker 2: and people who are closer affiliated with the the cases

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Speaker 2: are already passed. On but this is one that's Again,

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Speaker 2: robe it's just so rare that we see something like.

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Speaker 2: This and this is one that the year, Started it

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Speaker 2: was not on the, books, right there are only so

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Speaker 2: many in the country that we had executions, planned and

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Speaker 2: we knew robes along the way that more death warns

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Speaker 2: would be, signed and we know That desanta's down In

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Speaker 2: florida is not shy about signing. Them and this is

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Speaker 2: one he, SIGNED i believe In, february and it has

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Speaker 2: been scheduled and here we Go florida on pace again this.

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Speaker 3: Year, yes this Is DeSantis's i believe thirty second. Execution

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Speaker 3: it will be the fourth For florida this. Year and

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Speaker 3: it's interesting because the husband said he wanted to explain.

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Speaker 3: First he, SAID i don't want to have to think

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Speaker 3: about this guy. Anymore but he said when he got

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Speaker 3: the word That DeSantis signed his death and gave him

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Speaker 3: an execution, date to excuse me, specifically he said he

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Speaker 3: said all of us are going to be there For.

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Speaker 3: DENISE i don't want to be. There it's not something

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Speaker 3: that you grow up THINKING i want to see an execution.

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Speaker 3: Someday that's not SOMETHING i think we're all necessarily excited

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Speaker 3: to be a part. Of BUT i think we're definitely

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Speaker 3: relief so to, speak that this man who took so

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Speaker 3: Anymore you.

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Speaker 2: Know the other thing we often hear about, Families, yes

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Speaker 2: having that, finality but what they've had to deal with

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Speaker 2: oftentimes for ten twenty thirty forty, years, appeals core, hearings,

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Speaker 2: delays parole board, hearings keeps showing up for. It it

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Speaker 2: becomes a part of their entire. Life what's the latest

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Speaker 2: on the. Case where do we have to show up

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Speaker 2: now to try to get resolution or get what the

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Speaker 2: court system says is, justice which is an. Execution, YEAH

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Speaker 2: i think about that.

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Speaker 3: TOO i was just actually going through all the still

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Speaker 3: photos from the trial and it really brought it. Home

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Speaker 3: just to see the emotion from the friends and family

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Speaker 3: Of denise in the, court reacting to all the, witnesses

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Speaker 3: and certainly Seeing Michael king's face there as the. Defendant

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Speaker 3: it brought it. Home but imagining living through reliving this horrific,

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Speaker 3: crime which we will get, into and then you finally

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Speaker 3: get the guilty, verdict you finally get the sentencing where

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Speaker 3: he is sentenced to be, Executed but as you point,

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Speaker 3: out it's not. Over it, continues and it goes on

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Speaker 3: and on and, on and if you're committed to seeing this.

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Speaker 3: Through oftentimes family members do show up to every hearing

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Speaker 3: they show up to every court. Hearing they show up

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Speaker 3: to make sure that they see this through to the.

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Speaker 2: End and the end is supposed to be. Tonight but

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Speaker 2: this all started back In january of two thousand and.

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Speaker 2: Eight these, two as far AS i could, understand this was.

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Speaker 2: Random he drove by and saw her at her house

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Speaker 2: with her kids at the. Time what was a baby?

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Speaker 3: One, yes. One she had a two year Old noah

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Speaker 2: Man life is just, unfair, right this the randomness of

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Speaker 2: life and crime and something like. This she was doing,

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Speaker 2: nothing was nothing you could tell this woman to do

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Speaker 2: any differently that wouldn't have put her in the danger

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Speaker 3: This, yeah you're literally in a neighborhood on your own

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Speaker 3: Day they, say this was broad daylight In. Florida you

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Speaker 3: anything to look out. For and so he actually kidnapped

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Speaker 3: but the story gets even, like, oh it's so chilling

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Speaker 2: One this was AND i don't know if they got.

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Speaker 2: CLARITY i never heard that fully. Explained but, yeah she's

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Speaker 2: in the, vehicle she is held, captive she is tied,

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Speaker 2: Woman this was a, severe, awful awful, crime ends up

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Speaker 2: taking her somewhere shooting. Her DO i have it right

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Speaker 2: Crime the issue, here which has been front and center

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Speaker 2: robes is the behavior or the lack of proper training

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Speaker 2: of nine one one dispatchers while all this was going,

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Speaker 2: on because there are at least two separate occasions. Robes while

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Speaker 2: she was in the trunk of this man's held. Captive

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Speaker 2: she has a cell phone trying to call nine one.

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Speaker 2: One someone else here's. Her another motorists also tries to

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Speaker 3: One it's actually head. Scratching but there were a total

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Speaker 3: of four nine one one calls over a period of

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Speaker 3: herself and then nine to one one call was played

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Speaker 3: one and, says, please my name Is. Denise i'm married

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Speaker 2: it's complicated stuff law. Enforcement this is, complicated but broke

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Speaker 2: we have an, emergency all hands on, deck there is

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Speaker 3: Done, yes there WERE i believe three different dispatchers involved

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Speaker 3: the fact that nothing was coordinated and no usable information

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Speaker 3: led to significant. Change when we come, back we will

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Speaker 3: talk about What lee's family has done in her honor

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Speaker 3: and how they have made life saving changes to make

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Speaker 3: sure something like this never happens. Again and welcome back

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Speaker 3: everyone to this episode Of amy AND. Tj there is

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Speaker 3: Another florida execution happening. Tonight it is the fourth of

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Speaker 3: the year For, florida the thirty second execution For Governor.

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Speaker 3: DeSantis but this story was something that captivated the country

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Speaker 3: nearly twenty years ago When Denise lee called nine one

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Speaker 3: was bound and was fearing for her. Life she along

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Speaker 3: with several other people who witnessed her in the back

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Speaker 3: of this car calling nine one, one and yet police

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Speaker 3: only found her body two days, later naked in a

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Speaker 3: yes her family wanted. Change they sued the. COUNTY i

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Speaker 3: they founded The denise Amber Lee foundation to improve nine

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Speaker 3: one one training and it. Changed it changed how nine

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Speaker 3: one one dispatchers are trained in the state Of. Florida

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Speaker 3: it changed their mode of. Operation so trying to do

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Speaker 2: Again, yeah and they passed legislation down there In florida

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Speaker 2: something like, this like you, Said, robes nine to one

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Speaker 2: one operator was this was sure mistakes and things get

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Speaker 2: with knowing that there were who's to say if she

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Speaker 2: could have been ultimately. Saved but, Man, robes there was a,

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Speaker 2: On she called nine one one and begging somebody please

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Speaker 3: Tough yet one of the drivers who, called who was,

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Speaker 3: for nine. Minutes you start thinking about this and it's

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Speaker 3: hard to imagine how this. Happened BUT i thought it

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Speaker 3: one one dispatchers are the first. Link if they don't,

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Speaker 3: work nothing else. Does if you think about, that we

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Speaker 3: i always, think you know, what as long AS i

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Speaker 3: have my, PHONE i can call nine one. One that

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Speaker 3: is your connection to, Safety that is your connection to,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't, Work he's, right nothing else.

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Speaker 2: Does we've seen a lot and we do watch a

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Speaker 2: frankly and quite often really impressed by one how cool they,

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Speaker 2: that person was working so hard to save a man's

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Speaker 3: Oh my, god they are calm when everyone else is,

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Speaker 3: just their ability to react and to know how to

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Speaker 3: to distinguish between print calling what's a real, emergency what's?

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Speaker 2: REACTION i give them credit because the other part they

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Speaker 2: operators needs some, love because from WHAT i have heard and,

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Speaker 3: Job, yes, absolutely Thank, God Thank god for the nine

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Speaker 3: one one operators out. There but we will certainly be

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Speaker 3: watching what happens this. Evening. Again king's execution is scheduled

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Speaker 3: for six pm this. Evening he will die by lethal.

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Speaker 3: Injection right, now we've been keeping this, count but two

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty nine inmates currently on death row in

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Speaker 3: the state Of, florida and there are already two more

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Speaker 3: executions on the books in the state Of florida in

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Speaker 3: the coming. Weeks James Aaron duckett is scheduled to die

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Speaker 3: On march thirty, first And Chadwick Scott willisey is scheduled

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Speaker 3: number at six right now For. Florida but you can

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Speaker 3: be Sure Ron DeSantis is looking ahead Beyond, april and

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Speaker 3: we will of course keep you updated on all of.

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Speaker 3: This We thank you as always for listening to us every.

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Speaker 3: One I'm Amy roebock ALONGSIDE. Tj. Holmes we'll talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Soon