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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers

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Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's been an amazing last couple of

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Speaker 3: months that we've been going through so many dead brand things.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing out down the streets on the sicknesses what

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Speaker 3: do they call that? The uh, the unseeable enemy or

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Speaker 3: something like that with they're talking about the COVID And

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Speaker 3: I think that it's just different to sit here and

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Speaker 3: now be in studio and kind of be you know,

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Speaker 3: not six feet but close to six feet.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we've all been sick in here, and it's like

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Speaker 4: come in here at your own risk. And we're sitting

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Speaker 4: on our table boy, and you know what, as we

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Speaker 4: bring guests. If you want to come, well then fucking come.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If you don't, you know, we can skype you

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Speaker 2: in no big deal, you know.

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Speaker 3: Joe, I think it's it's it's it's different for me

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Speaker 3: because you know, my mom made some valid points and

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Speaker 3: she's telling me. She's like, look, Chris, it's not about,

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Speaker 3: you know, the person that's not afraid of getting sick.

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Speaker 3: It's about the person that's elder that may get sick

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Speaker 3: and actually die, or someone that may be younger that

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Speaker 3: gets sick and takes it home to somebody that's out

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Speaker 3: or that don't is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so those.

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Speaker 3: Those things, you know, be conscious out there, be safe.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's cannabis talk one on one. We want

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Speaker 3: to share something with you. Joe Gronde's here and he

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Speaker 3: just got some new size thirty six pants. He's fitting

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Speaker 3: in thirty six. Is it's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, No, I've lost a few pounds to thank

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Speaker 4: you for recognizing. But I'm a few more than a

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Speaker 4: few months away from a thirty six. Thirty eight I

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Speaker 4: could squeeze into, but it's gonna take me more than

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Speaker 4: a month or so to get into a thirty six.

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Speaker 4: And as I say that, you're you don't know what

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Speaker 4: you're doing. You're hurting Pitt over there, Pitt, who works

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Speaker 4: our show, is sitting there looking at me mad as

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Speaker 4: as shit is going.

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Speaker 2: There's no way I'm heavier than Joe Grande.

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Speaker 4: He even said, Doug one day, like a week after

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Speaker 4: we did a show and I said how much I

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Speaker 4: weighed on the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm not about two forty five.

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Speaker 4: He hits me like, well week lad, He's like, Man,

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Speaker 4: I had to go home and wait myself, going, wait

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Speaker 4: a minute, if Joe Joe's.

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Speaker 2: Been eating good damnit, I got on this s gilt.

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Speaker 2: I'm heavier than you, Joe, and I'm shorter than you.

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Speaker 2: Damn it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think I was bigger than you, like covid

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Speaker 4: add some mirror you're looking at you, brother? When I

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Speaker 4: look at you, I think you're bigger than.

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Speaker 2: Me, just shorter. Yeah. Well, we got an amazing show

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Speaker 2: for you guys. Today.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to some veterans right here about the

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Speaker 3: cannabis industry and how it's helped their lives. Also missing

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Speaker 4: We need to find our You can follow us online

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Speaker 4: at Cannabis Talk one on one. My men, Chris right here,

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Speaker 4: mister Blue is at one Christopher right. I am at

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Speaker 4: Joe Grande fifty two, and today we're going to talk

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Speaker 4: to Jeremy who's a military vet who used cannabis and

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Speaker 4: using cannabis for PTSD. But first off, Jeremy on behalf

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Speaker 4: of all of us. We all seriously which I tell

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Speaker 4: you all the time because we're personal friends, but we

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Speaker 4: really want to sincerely thank you for your service and

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Speaker 4: what you've done to serve our country. Greatly appreciate you

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Speaker 4: doing that right on, Thank you so much. But let's

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Speaker 4: get jump into it. Jeremy, First of all, what were

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Speaker 4: you in the military?

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Speaker 5: So I was in field artillery. They call that a

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Speaker 5: thirteen bravo, which is combat arms. So our basic training

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Speaker 5: is at the time it was just men.

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Speaker 2: Is it our army, Navy, Air Force, Army, So you're

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, what's the difference between the Marines and the

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Speaker 3: Army for those that don't know.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Marines are aquatic like Navy, so they're actually

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Speaker 5: a branch of the Navy. And then Army and air

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Speaker 5: Force are together as well, so the you know, that's

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Speaker 6: But you know, the Marines would be you know, the.

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Speaker 5: Just more aquatic specialist and Army, you know, army would

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Speaker 5: we got airborne and things like that. So yeah, they're

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Speaker 5: they're very similar.

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Speaker 4: But are you biased in thinking that the army has

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Speaker 4: know it's probably hard to say, but you know there's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: where the bad asses are? Do you look at some

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Speaker 4: of like you know, the Navy seals or who's the

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Speaker 4: ones like the seals get a lot of you know.

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Speaker 5: Right right, Well, I'll tell you from my personal experience,

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Speaker 5: it reminded me a little bit of like high school

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Speaker 5: and the different sports like which sport is better? Football, soccer, baseball?

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Speaker 5: You know, we military reminded you of that, right with

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Speaker 5: the different branch.

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Speaker 4: So who was the football players because we all know

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Speaker 2: Soccer was pretty crazy exactly. I don't know, Doug. I

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Speaker 2: was a wrestler, I swam, you know what.

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Speaker 5: We bag on each other at home, but when I

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Speaker 5: was deployed, I noticed that we can bag on each other.

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Speaker 5: But when it comes down to protecting, I mean, we're

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Speaker 5: all Americans, you know.

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Speaker 2: Service the same.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, that's my experience in my opinion. You know,

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Speaker 2: But get into the bagging issue.

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Speaker 4: Like when you bag, I want to know how that

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Speaker 4: what's that close knit bagging? Like like when your boys

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Speaker 4: are in the Navy? Are the Air Force like shut up,

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Speaker 4: what's the stereotypes that you guys know that I don't

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Speaker 5: They well, there's not a lot that I don't pay

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Speaker 2: So the Armies get bashed the most. The Army.

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Speaker 5: The Marines get bashed as being like the jar head

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and their haircuts.

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Speaker 5: The Navy, Air Force, they're always like the princesses. You know,

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Speaker 4: If you learn how to fly a jet, you've got

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the princesses.

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Speaker 2: It's the top guns like Tom Cruise those movies.

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Speaker 4: So is it air Force the prettiest boys or is

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Speaker 6: You know, they kind of go hand in hand. They're

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Speaker 6: like lesbian lovers. They're both pretty, you know.

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Speaker 4: You know it's crazy, as you said, I never met

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Speaker 4: They've all been so damn handsome. And the women are

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Speaker 4: very sharp as well. They're not like you can meet

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Speaker 2: You're like, damn dog. Yeah the Army and he just

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Speaker 3: So being in the Army, yeah, here we go, hand

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Speaker 2: So being in the army, you know what year were

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Speaker 6: So I went in in two thousand and five, right

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then were you deployed anywhere? Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: You know, you went through high school, you went into training.

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Speaker 5: So I signed up when I was seventeen, prior to

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Speaker 5: sign up with your parents.

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Speaker 2: You know, your parents were down right not at.

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Speaker 5: First, but you know, I pretty much told him, look

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Speaker 2: If you sign now, I get the GI bill.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, it's just.

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Speaker 5: I get more time, you know, because they count that

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Speaker 4: Oh really, so if you're in early, if you if

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Speaker 4: you commit early, right, that's when your clicker starts right, Okay.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, at first, she wasn't she wasn't

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Speaker 5: the war was still you know, pretty going on, and then.

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Speaker 2: Uh or was that Iraq.

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Speaker 5: Iraq Warrior and then you know, so we signed up.

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Speaker 5: I graduated in June. Left in July, went to Oklahoma,

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Speaker 5: and on Valentine's Day was the day that I got

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Speaker 6: So we flew to We made a few yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: You know, we stopped in like New York, and then

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Speaker 5: we didn't walk around. They locked us in the airport,

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Speaker 5: so we stopped in New York and then we went

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Speaker 5: to Germany. I believe we went to Germany, and then

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Speaker 5: from Germany we flew to Kuwait and then I think

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Speaker 5: I think we were in Kuwait for a little while,

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Speaker 5: you know, and then they break you down like into

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Speaker 5: where they're gonna go.

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Speaker 6: So, you know, some people stayed in Kuwait.

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Speaker 2: Some people do you know where you're going? Or they

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Speaker 2: just start taking you and you.

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Speaker 5: Start yeah, I kind of, I was, I remember, I

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Speaker 5: don't remember knowing exactly.

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Speaker 6: Who come on, you know, start pulling out huh yeah.

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Speaker 5: So you know, you as you get make way, you're

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Speaker 5: your chain of command knows where you're going. So by

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Speaker 5: they're like, okay, you're going here, You're going here, and

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Speaker 3: So run me by that, because you're probably about eighteen

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Speaker 6: Exactly, I'm better than you because I risked my life. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I've been in for so you know, there's always that

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Speaker 5: You do. So when you get deployed, when you're deployed

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Speaker 6: You get tax free.

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Speaker 2: Oh you do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So everybody out.

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Speaker 5: There is making their their their paycheck tax free, which

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Speaker 2: Not everybody wants to come back.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes they re enlist and they.

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Speaker 4: Stay for a whole other year.

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Speaker 2: Yet out there. Okay, So so let's let's do this.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's go to break and when we come back,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about when you actually landed.

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Speaker 2: There and and and then you know, and when you

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Speaker 2: After we'll figure it out. We'll be right back. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: We're here with Jeremy z.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he wants to do a whole

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Speaker 3: last name out there, we're gonna call him man Zema,

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Man, I mean, I like, I can only imagine and

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Speaker 3: You know, I might salute you our house, so we

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Speaker 4: You know, you guys have made our country rate and

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Speaker 2: For our country. You know, so many found your minds.

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Speaker 3: to if you've just joined the show, and and you know,

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Speaker 3: Jeremy tell us about when you get to deployment.

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Speaker 2: You end up in Iraq, and now you're in Iraq

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Speaker 5: So I ended up near a city called Ntjof, which

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Speaker 4: And it's it's.

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Speaker 4: Did you think of the group outcast when you got there?

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Speaker 2: Because every time I hear bag, Dad, I think about

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Speaker 2: Wow. And that's considered the field military. What was it

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Speaker 5: My technical job was field artillery, which is like to

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Speaker 4: We trained distance, far up and I was like, heystance

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Speaker 5: But but when we got to Iraq, there was only

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Speaker 5: So there's it's for the US military. It's absolutely illegal

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and they know. I mean sometimes they.

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Speaker 4: I mean sometimes got it in the way they got

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Speaker 5: And yeah, they know.

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Speaker 6: It makes that Joe, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It definitely makes its way.

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Speaker 2: Are doing it. Huh, you beat up. You have your

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Speaker 5: we were doing twelve hour shifts, so we would we

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00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 5: would work be on guard, you know, for twelve straight hours,

447
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,120
Speaker 5: and then you'd be off for twelve hours, and in

448
00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,160
Speaker 5: that twelve hours you had to call your family, do laundry, eat,

449
00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,320
Speaker 5: you know, get haircut, watch a movie. You have twelve

450
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,240
Speaker 5: hours do whatever you want.

451
00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,840
Speaker 4: In twelve hours on twelve hours hours on, twelve hours off,

452
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,800
Speaker 4: seven days a week. Wow, if you're sleeping eight hours,

453
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,720
Speaker 4: you're not getting too much leisure time to do some fun.

454
00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,240
Speaker 3: Kind of what kind of food does the military provide

455
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,960
Speaker 3: for you, you know, in Kuwait or Iraq?

456
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,280
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's uh, it's like cafeteria food, you know,

457
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,560
Speaker 5: like school cafeteria. You know, eggs, bacon, sausage. They have

458
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 5: like a very pretty good variety of foods. But it's

459
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,520
Speaker 5: it's all like cafeteria.

460
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:39,879
Speaker 2: Pretty systematic.

461
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

462
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,760
Speaker 4: So at what point, Jeremy, as you were in the

463
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,400
Speaker 4: army and you know, did it get and.

464
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,280
Speaker 2: However comfortable you are with sharing, where did it get?

465
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,720
Speaker 4: Did it get so bad that obviously you come home

466
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,199
Speaker 4: and you're you know, dealing with PTSG and having to

467
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 4: deal with cannabis.

468
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,679
Speaker 2: What do we do that?

469
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 4: Because we're still at base, right, I want to take

470
00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,680
Speaker 4: you want to keep walking through that? Yeah, I want

471
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,600
Speaker 4: to take cause I think it's gonna get interesting, right,

472
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,479
Speaker 4: so from base, where where do you I mean obviously

473
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 4: just don't want to base.

474
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't just stay on base all day? What happens?

475
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 2: Then you you do? You stayed at base the whole time.

476
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 5: Well, unless you're out doing patrols. Okay, so you know,

477
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 5: like I said, you'd be on twelve on, twelve off.

478
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 5: So sometimes we'd be you know, on twelve hours and

479
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 5: then go on patrol and then you come back after

480
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 5: you know, so many hours.

481
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 6: But other than that, you just stay on base.

482
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 5: It's like it's like living on a high school that

483
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,920
Speaker 5: there's nowhere to go. You got a cafeteria, can go

484
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 5: to eat.

485
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 2: So that was your whole analogy. That was it, and

486
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 2: then you came home. Yeah, so you have engagements? Did

487
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 2: you guys have a lot of engagements that you had

488
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,120
Speaker 2: to deal with and.

489
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,919
Speaker 5: You know we had there was people who were shooting

490
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 5: mortars at people. You know, so it was random because

491
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 5: you know, it's not planned. It's not like it's not

492
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 5: like a front line and a front line. So you know,

493
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 5: you have your buddies go out for days and days

494
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 5: and days nothing happened, and then all of a sudden

495
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,360
Speaker 5: they get So.

496
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 2: You would leave for days at a time too.

497
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Speaker 5: I was actually living in the Joff in a building

498
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,919
Speaker 5: with about twelve I would say, about a team of

499
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 5: twelve guys, and we lived in a building in the

500
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 5: middle of the city, not on a compound. We were

501
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 5: actually there was actually Iraqi's working on the first and

502
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 5: second floor. That's how it was, just in the city

503
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 5: and we were on a certain duty to protect someone and.

504
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: We lived in dislike, were you guys protecting an American?

505
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 6: It was an Iraqi official?

506
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: Wow?

507
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 4: Why would you guys have to protect the Iraqi official

508
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 4: because they were given Americans information?

509
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 6: I yeah, you know, we didn't get a lot of details.

510
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: Just get your job, make sure that guy stays.

511
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 6: Alive, pretty much.

512
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 5: And then yeah, you know, because there was like a

513
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 5: sort of civil war going on, because there was obviously

514
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 5: people who didn't like us, didn't like.

515
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 6: Their locals working with us.

516
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 5: So we did have interpreters that lived in the city,

517
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 5: you know, And sometimes they wouldn't show up for a

518
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 5: few weeks, and then they'd show back up and we'd

519
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 5: ask them what happened, and you know, their families were

520
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 5: being threatened or they were being threatened for working with us.

521
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 4: Did home ever, because I'm a a uh dangerous place there,

522
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 4: meaning like where in that building there?

523
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 3: Like did it was there a point where you felt like,

524
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 3: oh gosh, like we're in danger, you know, or did

525
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 3: you just feel cold and comfortable the whole time?

526
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: Was it nice? Yeah?

527
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you're always on edge. But that

528
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 5: fob duke is where we were at. That specific base

529
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 5: had a long road to get to us, so we

530
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 5: were in the middle of nowhere.

531
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 2: So where your base camp was. Yeah, so that when

532
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 2: you're living in that building.

533
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 6: In the building, I mean you're in the city.

534
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get got by four directions easily.

535
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 5: They're just driving. We're in the city, We're we're on

536
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 5: their territories. So we were we there was like one

537
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 5: significant incidents where the Special Forces came and had to

538
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 5: evacuate us out of the building because there's just like

539
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff going on and they're you know,

540
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 5: they showed up and when they show up and say leave,

541
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 5: you leave, And we went and we stayed on their

542
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 5: compound for a few days because there's something real big

543
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 5: going on and they brought us to their compound because

544
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 5: there was no base around us. When we moved to

545
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 5: that city in the job. We did that because we

546
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 5: handed over fob Duke to the local Iraqis and so

547
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 5: my team was on the rooftops. They had this whole ceremony,

548
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 5: handed it over to the local Iraqis.

549
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 6: Then pretty much the entire base evacuated except for us.

550
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 6: They left us there.

551
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

552
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 5: And so that was that alone is already like a

553
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 5: little nerve racking because they gave us a beacon. I'll

554
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 5: never forget this, and it didn't really dawn on me

555
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 5: until later on, but they gave us a beacon and

556
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 5: they said, if you get attacked, the last person alive

557
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 5: can set this beacon off and we'll send in.

558
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 6: You know, everybody support. Yeah, And so they left us, Yeah.

559
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: Send it in the first time as soon as we

560
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 2: get attacked.

561
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean it was you know, like I said,

562
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 5: I didn't like it's even being there because I was

563
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 5: only eighteen nineteen years old. Even being there in that

564
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 5: like moment in time, I still wasn't like I don't

565
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 5: know if it was just me blocking out where I

566
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 5: was or what I was doing out there, but I

567
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 5: still wasn't fully comprehending, like like the realities.

568
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can die any second, anytime, I.

569
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 5: Knew it sucks anymore, and I knew I was miserable,

570
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 5: and I was like, what am I doing?

571
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: Here? Is it?

572
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: When you got home and got older, a little older,

573
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: and started to think about it, that it starts to

574
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 4: affect you more like Y for me, how does the PTSD?

575
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 2: Did you feel it coming? Where? Where did it?

576
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 4: As you say that, I can only imagine mentally, you're

577
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: taking me there, and I'm going, fuck, I was a

578
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 4: young eighteen year old kid.

579
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: When I'm twenty two, I'm going, what the fuck? Was

580
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: I thinking? Like?

581
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 4: How does it affect you? How did you know you

582
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: needed help with PTSD?

583
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 2: Right?

584
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 5: So I didn't know that I needed help? Everyone around

585
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 5: me knew I needed help.

586
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 6: And it started off.

587
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 4: That you're here with most military cats. I mean, they're

588
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 4: trying to tell you, man, you're not being yourself.

589
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know when we came back.

590
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: You still need help. Bro, I'm just kidding. We all do, yeah,

591
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: I mean we all do. Yeah, I'm in the same boat,

592
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: an asshole, But don't talk about my journey. And then

593
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: when you were staring at him right now, you'd be like, I.

594
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 4: Can't even tell which one to look at his eyes,

595
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 4: his lips on his neck whatever either way, but go ahead.

596
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: How did you know?

597
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 5: So when we came back, me and my buddies, we

598
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: partied hard, like more drinking and partying and just just

599
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 5: and at the time, I thought I was just having

600
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: a good time. I just thought it was fun, you know.

601
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: I didn't even think like having PTSD or any sort

602
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 5: of like you know, issues at all.

603
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 6: It wasn't even a thought.

604
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 5: And then it wasn't until I left Texas came home

605
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 5: and I couldn't stop, couldn't stop what couldn't stop drinking?

606
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 5: My drinking was off the charts, and everybody was like,

607
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 5: you got a drinking problem, you got a drinking problem.

608
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 5: And I'm like thinking, I'm looking at him, and I

609
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 5: remember feeling in my brain, like feeling in my heart

610
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 5: like no, I don't like I just like to have fun.

611
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 6: Like you guys are out of your mind.

612
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: I just like to have I'm not abusing it. I'm

613
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: just having fun.

614
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 6: Right.

615
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's what I think. You know, a lot

616
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: of re addiction, yeah, exactly, Almost every addiction is Yeah.

617
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: So people used to tell me too, twenty one years

618
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 4: plus later, Yeah, they were rights, yeah, yeah, yeah.

619
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, It took me losing everything to

620
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 5: like I had nowhere to go, lost my job, my

621
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 5: family didn't want me around.

622
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: You think it was all due to drinking.

623
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was due to drinking and just not. I

624
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 5: just didn't trust anybody. I wasn't trusting people around me.

625
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 5: I didn't trust the people that loved me, you know,

626
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 5: I wasn't so I didn't trust them when they would

627
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 5: tell me something, I.

628
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 6: Just was like blowing it off. I didn't trust anyone,

629
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 6: you know.

630
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 5: And then uh, and then I noticed I was like

631
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 5: paranoid all the time. And I realized that when I

632
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 5: used to go party and hang out with all my

633
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: army buddies, I didn't even realize that, like.

634
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: We were a group.

635
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 6: I felt comfortable. I felt safe, right, I had six

636
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 6: of my boys with me. I was like, nothing's gonna happen,

637
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 6: And nothing.

638
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: Ever did happen.

639
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 6: You know, we always had a good time. We never

640
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 6: had any issues.

641
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 5: But I started going out to these really just janky

642
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: dive bars by myself and just finding myself in these beauty,

643
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 5: stressful situations.

644
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna little basoline on your little back. Yeah, sorry,

645
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm reminiscent of my story. So I apologize. Here we go,

646
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: he's he gets over. Yeah, I remember that day. What

647
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: just happened there, That's how I met Blue. That was Blue,

648
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: not Blue.

649
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 5: There.

650
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: You have a little correction there for Joe.

651
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 6: Got the condom hanging out together.

652
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: No, don't get graphic about my story. He didn't use

653
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: protections exactly. They called me rocked off Joe.

654
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, and he it was what happened afterwards that

655
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 4: made him think about it.

656
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: When we come back to Jeremy, let's break real quick,

657
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: come back and finish that story. Hold on, Jeremy, let's

658
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: let's just go right back. So you're your back.

659
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 4: Your buddies are telling you you got problems and you're like, no,

660
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: I don't.

661
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 2: You're drinking and dive bars. Now it's going to how

662
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 2: bad and darker to.

663
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: Get for It got as low as I ever wanted

664
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: to get in my life. And like I said, nobody

665
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 5: in my family wanted me around.

666
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 6: I had one.

667
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 5: I had a little bit of extended family that was

668
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 5: willing to accept me, and pretty much if it wasn't

669
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 5: for them, I'd be living on the street.

670
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 6: But I mean I was sleeping in my truck for

671
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 6: a little while. You know, no job you know, my

672
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 6: my my.

673
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 5: Tags were expired, my license was inspired, no insurance, no job,

674
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 5: like everything.

675
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 6: Was just falling apart.

676
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 5: And I remember, I don't remember the exact day, but

677
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 5: I remember at one point it was like six thirty

678
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: in the morning.

679
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 6: I stayed up all night waiting for the to be

680
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 6: able to buy beer.

681
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 5: I stayed up all night because they started selling at

682
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: six in the morning, So I stayed up all night.

683
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 6: You know, it was like six thirty in the morning.

684
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 6: I had three thirty two ounce foot ices.

685
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 5: In front of me, and I remember drinking them, and

686
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 5: I remember thinking, you know what, like I don't want

687
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 5: to do this anymore. I don't want to do this anymore,

688
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 5: don't like I just I was sick and tired of

689
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 5: being sick and tired. And uh, I began to, you know,

690
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: start to change my life around. And I began to

691
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 5: start looking for work and I started working. And what

692
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 5: really was kind of the icing on the cake which

693
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 5: solidified everything about changing my life was when my first

694
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 5: daughter was going to be born. So when I found

695
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 5: out that I was going to have a baby, that

696
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 5: was like the whole life everything in life. It's like

697
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 5: my whole world just spun around.

698
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: And you were still drinking at the time when you

699
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: hear I was still.

700
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 6: I was still drinking, still partying, you know, And uh, can.

701
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: I get close and say, what is partying? Is it? Lines?

702
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 5: It?

703
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

704
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 6: Doing coke, you know, smoking.

705
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: Weed, anything harder than coke, like even meth or heroin

706
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: or you know.

707
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 6: So I did do meth one time smoked it.

708
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: I was pissed drunk and had no clue what it

709
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: was or you know what I was doing.

710
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: Watch more I have the Yeah, no, Joe's been so

711
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: for twenty one years, but I love the math. Give

712
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: me a line right now, yelling I've just been sober.

713
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: I still got my labs and hocking Bakersfield.

714
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, No.

715
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: I tried it once and it was probably the worst

716
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 5: experience in my life.

717
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

718
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: I but I completely one hundred percent understand how people

719
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: can get addicted to it. After the first time, I

720
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 5: totally get it, because it was about two or three

721
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: days that I was like, oh maybe I could, maybe

722
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 5: I could smoke one more, maybe I can do it again, you.

723
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 6: Know, And it tricked yourself in and I just kept

724
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 6: telling myself. I was like, don't do it.

725
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: I was like, don't do it, stay away to it

726
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 5: and never sit and then I never touched it again

727
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 5: and I never will.

728
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

729
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 6: It was just like I said, it was the worst experience.

730
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Let's talk cannabis.

731
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And how did cannabis jump in and say this

732
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: is my savior? How does it like help save your life?

733
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: Because I've heard you say this and I heard you

734
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: talk about it. How does only cannabis become the way?

735
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 5: So it started off recreational, you know, it was part

736
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: of my drinking habits. You know, if anybody had you know,

737
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 5: good bud, I'd smoke. And I started to gradually just

738
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 5: shift into smoking more and drinking less. And then I

739
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: started to sort of like dabble into educating myself about it,

740
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 5: and I started hearing more medical things about it and

741
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 5: sort of you know, just in general. As time has

742
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: gone on and information started coming out and people started

743
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 5: talking about the medical benefits, I was like, hmm, maybe

744
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 5: this is something that is like real, you know, maybe

745
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 5: it's something that can help. So I started looking into

746
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 5: it more, and I honestly think the mindset of willing

747
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 5: to accept that it's now medicine and that this is

748
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 5: going to help me get off of drinking or this

749
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: will keep me off of the different pills, you know,

750
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 5: because the VA prescribes you pills like candy.

751
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: Were you on pills as well?

752
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 5: I was at first, and they just make you They're

753
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 5: like it's like being drunk. They make you feel loopy.

754
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 5: I have friends that were taking pills from the VA

755
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 5: and he had a seizure driving his car on the

756
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: freeway and now he has to take pills to help

757
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: wing him off those pills, to.

758
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: Take them, towing them off those pills.

759
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: Guy that I was sponsoring, he was in the v

760
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: A in l A and killed himself after one year,

761
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 4: and you know, thinking maybe it was the pills as

762
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: he was sober for this first year, older gentleman. And

763
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: it's still to this day makes me wonder, going what

764
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: type of pills was he really on?

765
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: Have no clue.

766
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: And it's just, I mean there's so many and and uh,

767
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: I mean it's amazing how many different pills there are.

768
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: And I think I'm going to dive into that fact.

769
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: I'm going to find out how many pills are you know,

770
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: are prescribed world? Yeah, period, I mean just exactly, I

771
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: mean for this, this, this, this, and it's I mean

772
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: all these different times.

773
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: I mean there's probably I can't even imagine that.

774
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 5: Well, they do a lot of somebody on here to

775
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 5: talk about they do a lot of I think they

776
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 5: call it off label prescribing, So they'll prescribe you pills

777
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: based on the side effect.

778
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 2: Is what is what your side effects that you've had

779
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: the side effect.

780
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 6: Of the side effect of the pill? Yeah, wow, do

781
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 6: you want to do how bad?

782
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: You want to go down?

783
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 5: Kid?

784
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: A bad liver? You want the to come say hello

785
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: to your night? Yeah, so some of the some of

786
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: the what can they help you with?

787
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: They're not even prescribing it for what what that pill

788
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 5: was meant for. They're giving it to you because of

789
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: the side effect. And you know, like like they were

790
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 5: giving me sorequil, which is a mild seizure medicine, you know,

791
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: and that was to help me get sleep and stuff

792
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: like that. I mean, I don't have a history of cazuars,

793
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 5: but it was the side effect.

794
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: Of right, and then to help you stay awake, they

795
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: give you a pill. Yeah.

796
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 6: I don't think I had any trouble staying awake. I was.

797
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 6: I still stay awake a lot, you know.

798
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: Anyways, but cannabis has helped cannabis has kept me off

799
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: of all of it. You know, I after doing some

800
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: research and learning, I felt way more comfortable doing the cannabis.

801
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: You know, you can't get addicted to it, can't overdose

802
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 5: on it. You know, there's there's really I mean, the

803
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 5: worst side effects I've experienced.

804
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 6: Is either sleeping too much or eating too much.

805
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: You think it'd be great if the people in the

806
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: military can use cannabis when they're off work.

807
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 6: I think it's I think it should be.

808
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: I don't.

809
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I knowing what we know now, it's it

810
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 5: just boggles my mind because I mean, you could drink

811
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 5: as much as you want in the military.

812
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 6: You can go to the bar, you can buy you know,

813
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 6: bottles and bottles.

814
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 5: But the you know, you get addicted to it, people develop,

815
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 5: you know, issues, and then they start going through withdraws,

816
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 5: and then it it hinders their performance. You know, with cannabis,

817
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: you know you can you're not gonna have withdrawals. So

818
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: then when you're at work, you can be at work.

819
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 5: You're not thinking about you're not addicted to us, you're

820
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 5: not thinking about smoking. You just focus on your work.

821
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 5: When you're off, you know, you take your medicine, but drinking,

822
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: you know, you develop a drinking problem that starts to

823
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 5: become you know, the forefront of your thoughts.

824
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: It's just scary to think what so many people go

825
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 4: through in the military that you know when you're a

826
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: young kid, especially when you enlist that you said you

827
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: were seventeen, and how many others are out there, and

828
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: I mean going back to previous wars and watching movies

829
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: or the Vietnam vets that came back and being treated

830
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: like shit, and in my opinion still till this day,

831
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: a lot of military vets get treated like shit personally.

832
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: I believe that.

833
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 4: Look at the way the vas A ran and how

834
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: fucking horrible they are. They can't get appointments, You can't

835
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: get in there to see somebody when you risk your

836
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: life to serve. They should have more than enough staff

837
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 4: to support the veterans and they don't have it, and

838
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: it's pathetic.

839
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me let me say this.

840
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: The VA Hospital, and I know from from personal experience, Okay,

841
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: they do provide a lot of service, So let's not

842
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: just tear them down.

843
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they don't, but I'm saying to get

844
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: an appointment, to get in there when you need help

845
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 4: and I'm suicidal, hold on, come by on Thursday Friday.

846
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 3: You know what, if you're lucky, that's two weeks Thursday.

847
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: It is.

848
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: It is a service that they provide for a lot

849
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: of veterans. And you know, and my father, my dad

850
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: died in the VA hospital. You know, was there a

851
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: lot of times where he was pissed and definitely, you know,

852
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: upset because of those reasons, or didn't get what he

853
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: thought he should get or whether he thought he was

854
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: told he was going to get when, you know, when

855
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: when being a part of being a veteran.

856
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 4: And my point is they do so much. You're right,

857
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: I think they will need to afford it to have

858
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 4: them do more. No, we need to That's what I'm saying.

859
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 4: I'm not saying what I'm not saying they don't do enough.

860
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 4: I'm saying our country doesn't put enough in the VA

861
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 4: to do everywhere, don't enough budgets. Yes, you know, they

862
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 4: need to do it more. What they're doing is great.

863
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: They need bigger budgets to do more because the country

864
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 4: doesn't take care of them as well. Them and teachers

865
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 4: have always been my complaint on what our country doesn't

866
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: do right in my opinion, But it's random that you know.

867
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: You go to the VA. Did you ever have to

868
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: go to the VA and deal with your drinking?

869
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I've went to I've spoke at many AA

870
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: meetings at the VAS across the lands.

871
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering you did they ever, ye, you're

872
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: looking at that. I did.

873
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 6: I went to several group meetings.

874
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 5: And the thing with my like with the going to

875
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 5: the VA too, is in a way it's almost like

876
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 5: they're kind of playing against you, which makes it hard

877
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 5: to be fully upfront with them, because you know, we

878
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 5: get raided on our disability, and then you get a

879
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 5: certain amount of pay based on this, so.

880
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 2: You can get you don't want to be too honest,

881
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: you can.

882
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 5: Get fifty whatever it is, right. But let's say you know,

883
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 5: you played football in high school and you go to

884
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 5: the military. You come out and you're like, oh, my

885
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: back's all messed up, and then they start interviewing you,

886
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 5: and now the doctor's like, oh, so you played football

887
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 5: in high school. They try to use that to make

888
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 5: it more difficult to get your disability rating.

889
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 6: Wow.

890
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: So so you're like, but I hurt myself, you know,

891
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: falling off of a tank while I was shooting and

892
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: the tank.

893
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: Was and I twisted myself a comet.

894
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 6: But you're a line blacker for four years in high school.

895
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So I get what you're saying. Now,

896
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: that's a that's a horrible thing to feel like, you.

897
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: Know, and then that that goes with physical and mental

898
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 5: you know, if you had some you know, broken family

899
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 5: growing up, if you had some issues growing up, you know,

900
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 5: they'll ask you like, how is your childhood?

901
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 6: You know, how are your parents?

902
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: How they treat you because they want to know if

903
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 5: you had any prior Did you.

904
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: Know that before they started asking you those questions? Oh yeahds, No, No.

905
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: We warn each other, like I had a couple of

906
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 5: older vets and some Vietnam vets and and they tell them, Yeah,

907
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 5: they kind of they warn you because it's like they

908
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 5: they they want to be they act like they're your friend,

909
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 5: but really you say the wrong thing or you know,

910
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 5: and next thing, you know, you just shot yourself in

911
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 5: the foot and you're not gonna he.

912
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: Got abused by his father. You know, he's got a history,

913
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: going to go out there and kill everyone.

914
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: So they cut you from your benefits because it's like

915
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: it's not from wars, from his parents beating him.

916
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: He said it to doctor so and.

917
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 5: So exactly gotcha. So it kind of makes it a

918
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: little bit tricky. So, you know, I'm I'm part of

919
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 5: you know, different outside of the VA. I'm part of

920
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 5: different you know, mental health groups. I'm part of different

921
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 5: veterans groups. You know, I've met a lot of online

922
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: vets that I talked to you that I've never met

923
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 5: in person. But you know, we can relate to each

924
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: other even through online. So even before the whole COVID

925
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: lockdown thing, you know, there's an online community that you

926
00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: can be a part of.

927
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: You need to Well, let's do the high five with you, Jeremy,

928
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: as we like to do with all of our guests

929
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 4: that come on the show, and thank you for doing

930
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: your service in the Army. Question number one, how old

931
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: are you the first time you smoked? And where did

932
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: you get it from?

933
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 6: I think I was about nine or ten.

934
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 4: Wow, so before you went to the army obviously, so

935
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: he did have issues before.

936
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: He's a little stonero gave it to you.

937
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 6: I stole it from my stepdad.

938
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: Oh nice, Yeah, he was ara.

939
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: It was it was in a coin door, and he

940
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 5: always had, you know, a little baggy and and I

941
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 5: would just try to pinch off a little bit here

942
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: and there and be.

943
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: Kind of weird to see if he would if he

944
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: had a big ho deal though in there, he's like,

945
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: wait a minute, there's.

946
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: A pipe in that deal, though, Mom, I wonder why

947
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: you're lipping. That's a pipe, buddy, that's a pipe.

948
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: It's not a that kind of that kind of happened

949
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 5: at a friend's house once, and I'll spend the night

950
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: for me.

951
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

952
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys woke up with it, woke up with

953
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: it in your back pocket?

954
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, show what is put that away? To my friends?

955
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: Question number two of the High five with Jeremy z

956
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: Man Army Fatigues wearing the.

957
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: Guy right now? What is your favorite way to use cannabis?

958
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: Blunt rolls?

959
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: Rolling up? What kind of swister?

960
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 6: I really liked that, the XXL nice ones.

961
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I heard about you.

962
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: Question number three on the High five Craziest place you

963
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 4: ever smoked weed?

964
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 6: Craziest place? No, no, actually there, yeah you're young, your hell.

965
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: I think maybe the craziest place was probably when I

966
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: was in the army in our barracks.

967
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: Oh, so you were back in the army and you

968
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: smoked with hi when you're in the army.

969
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 5: When we came back every periodically we would yeah, and

970
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 5: uh it.

971
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: Was the military is getting high in that's a good idea.

972
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 5: It was sketchy, you know, because we're in the we're

973
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: in the barracks and obviously like you could smell it

974
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 5: a mile.

975
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 8: Oh really catching smoking there, like oh yeah, and I

976
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 8: didn't know that really A quick yeah, you know, I

977
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 8: mean you're not smoking blunt, you know you might Yeah,

978
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 8: I want to hits in there.

979
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 5: But you know, are the barracks that we stayed in,

980
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: we shared one bathroom and shower in the middle with

981
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 5: two rooms.

982
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: No, that's a crazy place to smoke when you're federally illegal.

983
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: You'rey. That's a good one. That's good. That's very crazy.

984
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: Question number four of the high five. What is your

985
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: go to munchie when you get high?

986
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 6: Almond milk and frosted.

987
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: It's all a drink, its home milk. It's the best

988
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: thing Ever's so good. I love it. Costco like every

989
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: we just had to get it yesterday. It's too A

990
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 2: three pack of almond milk please, prot shakes.

991
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 4: Everything else question number five with the High five with

992
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: a very special military veteran who uses cannabis for PTSD, Jeremy.

993
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: If you could smoke with anyone get or alive.

994
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: Who would be you know, honestly, I'd like to smoke

995
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: with my uncle Gil. He passed away when I was

996
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: about ten or eleven, and all of his friends that

997
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: he's friends with. I kind of like, I'm in his spot.

998
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 5: So I hang out with a lot of older gentlemen

999
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 5: you know that were his friends growing up. And uh,

1000
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: you know, his name was Gil and he had cancer

1001
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: and he died, and and honestly, I'd like to smoke

1002
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: with him.

1003
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 6: I smoked with my grandma.

1004
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: So nice. How did that come about? Grandma? How does grandma?

1005
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: Does she pull out her statue? You know, yeah, I've

1006
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: had them both, I've seen. Yeah, how did that happen? Though?

1007
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 5: You know, we're at my aunt Marcy's house. They had

1008
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 5: you know, my grandma lived with my aunt and uh,

1009
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: you know, she wasn't doing too good.

1010
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 6: She was kind of sick, and so I just asked.

1011
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 5: Her that, Grandma, you know, you're a smoke you want

1012
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 5: to smoke? And she was she was like, well, I

1013
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 5: don't really know how, but yeah, I'll smoke with you.

1014
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: And I asked my I go, can we smoke in here?

1015
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 5: She's like, I guess, so grandma said, well, so I

1016
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 5: rolled up a joint, you know, and and me and

1017
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: my Grandma's share to Jay.

1018
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Nice sad she's still with us.

1019
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 6: No, she passed away.

1020
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Speaker 2: So listen.

1021
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: You know, if you're a vegan there and you you know,

1022
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: have PTSD and you want to share with it and

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Speaker 3: be heard on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get

1024
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,279
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1025
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,919
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Speaker 3: leave a message, tell.

1027
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: Us your story about it.

1028
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: I mean, we'd love to hear how it's helped you

1029
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 3: or how it hasn't helped you. You know, if PTSD

1030
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: is something that's real for you and you just want

1031
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: to share it with the world, and how cannabis is,

1032
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: like again, has helped you or maybe hasn't.

1033
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's Cannabis Talk one on one. Thank you

1034
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: Jeremy for being on the show.

1035
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, yeah, and again your services, and to all

1036
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: the veterans out there and to the people that are

1037
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: actually in duty right now, thank you guys all for

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00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: your support.

1039
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: It's Cannabis Talk one on one. If no one else

1040
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,560
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1041
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,239
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