1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ. Bucky 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: back with you, Buck? What's up man, man? It's all good. Uh. 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Getting ready for the final weekend of the preseason Week three. 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see how some teams are going 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: to approach this final weekend, uh DJ, because I just 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: I can't determine if people are going to take it 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: off or if some people are going to use it 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: as a launching point to get their guys ready to 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: play in a couple of weeks. It's fascinating to me 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: to see the different approaches. Yeah, I'm curious because this 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: is the first year we go from four preseason games 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: to three preseason games. It's the first year we go 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: from sixteen regular season games the seventeen regular season games, 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: so you hear wildly different approaches. It sounds like Bruce 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: arians is gonna let those guys go. I mean they're 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: gonna get out there and play with their guys for 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: a half. So um, you know, we'll see how other 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: teams decide to handle that. And I'm I'm curious with 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: all these these five rookie quarterbacks. I mean to me, 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think if you're if you're a team 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: like San Francisco, you kind of you know where Jimmy 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: is and you know what Jimmy is. So this would 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: be a great opportunity to give Trey Lance, you know, 25 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: three quarters of football if not, if not more, I mean, 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: I'd be tempted to be honest with your buck if 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: if I'm one of those teams, if you're the Bears, um, 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: if you're the forty Niners, to let those guys play 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: the entire game. Just let it get the sense of 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: going through a four quarter football game. You know, I'll 31 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: relate to my personal experience my uh yeah, my last 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: year in Kansas City as one of the backups. UH 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: coach Schenheimer said, a weak force for everybody else. Started 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: it down, everybody else get ready to play. And I 35 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: would tell you DJ that game. Playing that game was 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: probably one of the highlights of my career because it 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: was like a time where you are locked in and 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: when you talk about being a friend guy, a bubble guy, 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure out if you can make it or not, 40 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: it is almost in the essence you're super Bowl and 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: having played in playoff games and those things. I can 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: tell you that the intensity for all of the others 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: was at that level. And so when you think about 44 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: a young quarterback, Trade Lands or Justin Fields or Mac 45 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Jones playing in that kind of environment. On the outside, 46 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: we can dismiss it and say, oh, it's just a 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: bunch of backups, but let me tell you, that game 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: will give those guys as close to a regular season 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: field as you can get in the preseason, because everyone 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: has the same level of urgency is play well or 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: go home. And so I would absolutely play Trade Lands 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: and those guys in that game because I want them 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: to get used to the speed because, as you know, 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: the speed changes when you get into the regular season. 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Like what we're seeing in the preseason is nice, but 56 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: when they kick off for real in September, it is 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: at a completely different speed. And you want to try 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: and prepare those guys for that increased urgency and intensity 59 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: that they'll face. And I just think it's different too, 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: even from practice to getting on the game field, even 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: if backups are out there, I always found it. You know, 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: you can hear some reports I think we've seen that 63 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: with the Jets, right some some reports of Zack Wilson 64 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: really struggling uh in practice, and all of a sudden 65 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: we seem in these preseason games were like, what the heck, man, 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: this guy's he's dealing. It looks easy. I always found 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: as a quarterback, I I I wasn't you know, I'm not. 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't six five. Zach Wilson's not six five. So 69 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: when you get in kind of a practice setting where 70 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: people are going even when they're going hard, it's still 71 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: three quarters game speed. People aren't going to the ground, 72 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: and it's just kind of like it's just kind of 73 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: like a mush. There's a wall in front of you, 74 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: nothing's defined, the windows don't clear up. And then all 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: of a sudden you get in the game setting where 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: everything's live, the pass rush is coming. It creates these 77 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: lanes you can climb up and step up. You can 78 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: see clearly. To me, I found it just just throwing 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: the football. Wise, I preferred the game stuff versus what 80 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: you didn't practice. The other stuff is this and this 81 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: is why I think we need to be careful about 82 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: going too crazy about the reports they come out about practice. 83 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: If practice is designed the right way, you're supposed to 84 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: struggle and have mistakes. It's not a thing that is 85 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: scripted for you always to have success. And so for 86 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson playing against the same defense for the entire 87 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: spring or whatever, they do have a bit of a 88 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: field for his tennessee'es and what he likes. If cornerbacks 89 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: and secondary members aren't jumping certain routes or aren't doing 90 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: certain things, then to me, there's a problem because they 91 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: haven't paid enough attention to how Zach Wilson wants to 92 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: play the game. I worry less about those reports and 93 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 1: worry more about how they perform in the preseason because 94 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: those are games, and those games are unscripted, and Zack Wilson, 95 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: by all accounts, has been very, very solid during the games. 96 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm more likely to lean on that than the reports of, ay, 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: he didn't perform well than a seven or seven period 98 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, because no matter what we say, you still 99 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: don't know what the intent of the practice script was 100 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: for the coaches and for the players. Yeah, I want 101 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: to hit on some more on that just a second. 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: I do want to let everybody know what we've got 103 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: coming up. A couple of interesting quarterback decisions that were 104 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: made or that will be made going forward, we're gonna 105 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: hit on those as well as a fast any trade 106 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: that just took place within the last week's we hit 107 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: on that as well. But I want to continue on 108 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: this topic, but because I'm reading this book called Effortless 109 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: by Greg McCown and basically it talks about being able 110 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: to take things you know that you do, assignments, work, whatever, 111 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: and go from making things easy, sorry, to go of 112 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: making things easier, then easy, and then effortless. Like the 113 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: goal was to get to where it's effortless. And one 114 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: of the chapters I was just listening to the other day, 115 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: I've kind of listening to this audio book, and uh, 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: it talked about how when he would get a test 117 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: like he started he went back to school, this guy, 118 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: so he was taking like a classes, and he said 119 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: I would do I wanted to do the practice test 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: as fast as I could, because say there's a hundred 121 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: questions and I get half of them wrong, I can 122 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: already eliminate the half I got right, and I don't 123 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: need to work on those now. I know right away 124 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: these are the fifty things I need to study. These 125 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: are the fifty things I need to know. So then 126 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: I just hone in work on those things. Take it 127 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: again now and now I only have thirty things I 128 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: need to study. Then keep going. Now I only have ten. 129 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: So it's like you need to get to your mistakes 130 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: as fast as you can because then you can learn 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: from your mistakes, which feeds right into why I think 132 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: we've both been singing the same song on like justin fields. 133 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: If you can get him out in the field, let 134 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: him get out there and make these mistakes now so 135 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: he can start learning from these mistakes. Yeah. I think 136 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: some people would call it fail fast. Your business leaders 137 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: talk about it right away, fail fast so you can 138 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: learn and recover and grow, because really the growth comes 139 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: from the failures. That's why when you work out, you 140 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: work out hard, you put a ton of weight on 141 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: is negative, and then your body grows as adjust to 142 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: dealing with more weight and more uh conditions or obstacles 143 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: that are placed before. It's the same thing. I like 144 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: what you said so repeated to me those three things. 145 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: So it goes from you want to make it, You 146 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: want to make it easier. Then you want to go 147 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: to where it becomes easy, and then you want to 148 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: go to where it becomes effortless. Yeah, I like that 149 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, I like that thought, 150 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: and I also like the way that you're talking about 151 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: working backwards. Um. I hate to say this, but like 152 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: some of the trainings that we get at NFL Media, 153 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: like some of those things, like I hate to admit, 154 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully it's just us listening. Sometimes I like to 155 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: take the quiz before I fully take the thing, because 156 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: if I if I get eight out of ten, right, 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: then I just need to notice two day ever, mind 158 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: go back and get those chapters. So I'm not telling anybody, 159 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: just kind of if I can, if I can just 160 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: pass forward and get to the quiz, let's get to 161 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: what I don't know already, and then I'll work on 162 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: those things so I don't have to winter. So I 163 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: want to fail fast so I can go back and 164 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: get to it all right, since we're in a confessional 165 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: booth and none of our listeners are gonna tell on us. 166 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: So the way they set these and I'm sure everybody 167 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: that's listening that that's in a company. They have these 168 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: same type of training videos you have to watch right well. 169 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: They design it so like I remember doing one of 170 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: them and I'm like, okay, let me open up another window, 171 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: I can get some work done. I kind of listen 172 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: to this. So but if you open up another window 173 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: on your computer, it stops. They've designed this thing so 174 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: that you can't get distracted. So I'm like, all right, 175 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: I can't do that. Well, then you know what I 176 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: figured out. I'm like, shoot, I got two computers, man, 177 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: So I put the training video on this computer and 178 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm working away on the other and it's kind of 179 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: getting in here, and it's getting in here, and then 180 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: you kind of go back to your you kind of 181 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: go back to your test taking tricks, you know where 182 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: You're like, now, this sure looks like all the above, 183 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: all the so so that's the thing. It is about 184 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: filming fast. And I think for if this is an 185 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: organizational decision and we're talking about quarterbacks, I think there 186 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: is something too. You have to let them play through 187 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: their mistakes. And it was one of the issues that 188 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: we had last year with the Miami Dolphins and two 189 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: a tongued by Lord, if you're gonna put them in, 190 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to see him yo yo in and 191 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: out of the lineup. Let him play through those things 192 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: because you'll never know how to work through it if 193 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: you if you never let him face the tough stuff 194 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: because you've got to get through the tough stuff to 195 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: get to the good stuff. And so when he does that, 196 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: when when you're playing, when you have a young quarterback, 197 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: you have to make a commitment that, hey, there's gonna 198 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: be some ups and downs, but we're gonna live through 199 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: this and he's gonna come through and provided that the 200 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: quarterback is wired the right way in his failures don't 201 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: completely erode his confidence. So let me just let me 202 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: just lobby again one more time for for playing time 203 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: for these guys. So if we look at these situations, 204 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: do you think you know and I think they've already 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: said Field is starting, So he's starting this game. But 206 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: here's a reason for that. Right in a four quarter 207 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: preseason game. Do you think there is the potential for 208 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: a situation to arise that Andy Dalton has not already 209 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: been in or seen during his time in the NFL. 210 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: There is a chance if you let Justin Fields go 211 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: out there for a full game, he's gonna encounter a 212 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: dozen plus different situations um that he's never had to 213 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: deal with before, and maybe he makes mistakes on six 214 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: eight of those. That's great. Now we can check that 215 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: one off the check that box and we can go 216 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: learn learn from that. I would say the same from 217 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: Trey Lanchiman. Grapplos played a good amount of football in 218 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: the NFL, so I don't need to see him in 219 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: in a in a preseason game at this point in time. 220 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Let's give Trey Lance a chance to get these twelve 221 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: twenty thirty different experiences that he has yet to have, 222 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: and and let's let's let him learn from that in 223 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: a game, which, by the way, I don't know if 224 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: you know this doesn't count against your record, So why 225 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: not let them get out there and experience those things? Yeah, 226 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the thing. You never get experienced 227 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: until you go through uh certain situations for the first time. 228 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: And if you have a great teacher on the sideline, 229 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: whatever the position, coaches or whatever, he can walk you 230 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: through those things. But a lot of times, and I 231 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: would say this, the best coaches to me, particularly in 232 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: prectis and I know how you felt about this playing quarterback, 233 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: were the ones who didn't say anything before or during 234 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: a play. Lets they let the play go and then 235 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: they correct you out. But the ones that always bothered 236 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: me with I'm out there playing corner there like, hey, 237 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: move inside, back up here comes this. You never developed 238 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: instincts if someone is always kind of coaching you through. 239 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: So my advice is always let them play, then correct 240 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: them after the play, and then if you want to 241 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: repeat it, repeat it. But I want them to develop 242 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: their natural instincts for playing the game and playing the position. Yeah. Well, 243 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: trust me, every quarterback has dealt with got him, got him, 244 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: got him. And you're like, I don't let me, just 245 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: let me work through my progression. Okay, I know you're 246 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: coaching running backs. He's my fifth option on this play. Okay, 247 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: let me just get through my progression. Oh drive you crazy. 248 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: It is, but and and and it's one of those 249 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: things that with young players and quarterbacks in particular, there 250 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: are things that you have to let them experience. And 251 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: I am actually all four letting quarterbacks young quarterbacks play longer, 252 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: even if they're gonna be starters. I think this week 253 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: for Mac Jones because eventually we have to talk about 254 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Mac Jones being given more opportunities to play working. Yeah, 255 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: the joint practices and by all accounts, the things that 256 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: you hear from his teammates to me are telling in 257 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: terms of guys talking about how he has control of 258 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: the offense, has a great feel for what is going on. 259 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like it's too big for him. And 260 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: we can say practices practice, but as you and I 261 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: both know having been around joint practices, joint practices are 262 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: about as intense as a preseason game because you're finally 263 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,479 Speaker 1: seeing different comps, maybe more so, maybe more everybody. Everybody's 264 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: competing and going after it is fast. It gives you 265 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: a really good gage on where somebody is. To hear 266 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: that Mac Jones completed at one point and I don't 267 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: know if it was one on one or seven or 268 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: seven eighteen straight completions DJ, That's that's what we talked 269 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: about when we had Joe Montana on the podcast and 270 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: he talked about those days is in practice in San Francisco, 271 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: and how they talked about the ball doesn't hit the ground. 272 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: That is when you're beginning to operate at a championship level, 273 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: when the ball doesn't hit the ground. To me, that 274 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: is very telling and rebuilding about Mac Jones. Even though 275 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: you and I both have some reservations about maybe his 276 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: talent in New England, he might be the right fit 277 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: because of how they want to play, the they want 278 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: the position to be played, and how they want to 279 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: play on offense. All right, I'm going back to, uh, 280 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: something that we've talked about on here before. But when 281 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: I pulled up that document from Bill Belichick from the 282 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: early nineties with the Cleveland Browns and he was talking 283 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: about what he looks for in certain positions. Again, this 284 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: is what thirty thirty years ago. So here, here's what 285 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick said he wanted a quarterback thirty years ago. 286 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: Number One is to make good decisions. Then arm sized, physicality, toughness, leadership, 287 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: guys look up to and have confidence in which speaks 288 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: to what you were talking about. A real competitor accurate 289 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: rather than a guy with a cannon. Emphasis on our 290 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: game will be on decision, decision making, timing, and accuracy. 291 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Got a guy. Uh, let me see what else to 292 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: sit here? Needs to be confident. Intelligence is important, but 293 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: not as much as field awareness and judgment. Can't be sloppy, 294 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: fundamentally unsound. Guy with ball handling technique et cetera, footwork, drops, release, etcetera. 295 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: QB has to be able to throw the ball with accuracy. 296 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean if you if you were a 297 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: no vote of law, would that be your closing argument 298 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: if you're Mac Jones. I mean, if you were to 299 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: go back and look at the bottom of the reports, 300 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: your report and my report. When we talk about Mac Jones, 301 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: all of the things that are in the positive column 302 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: would all steer towards intelligence, decision making, accuracy, touching, timing. 303 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: The things that were not as big for him or 304 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: weren't the strong was the game was arm talent in 305 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: terms of big arm, athleticism and those things. But when 306 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: Coach Belichick talks about fundamentally sound, being on it, instincts 307 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: and awareness and decision making, I mean Mac Jones checks 308 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: off all the boxes in that category. And what I 309 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: have said and what we have talked about is when 310 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: you're Cam Newton and your game is not necessarily like that. 311 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: Your game is more built on power, strength of personality, 312 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: athleticism and the ability to just be a unicorn at 313 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: the position. When you open the door, you allow the 314 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: team to find a player that is very comfortable for 315 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: them because that's their preferred way of playing. And you know, 316 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: we all have preferences when it comes to things, and 317 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: when you let people put on those comfortable loafers sometimes 318 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: they find you know, I know these, I know these, 319 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: these penny lovers are a little old, but they might 320 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: work for me. I think I still where these. I 321 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: think that's what you may be getting in New England. 322 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: He is a comfortable set of loafers for the Pages 323 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: because they had a similar player. Not saying any Tom Brady, 324 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: but it had a similar player for twenty years and 325 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: that's what everyone around the building is very familiar with, 326 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: because they wanted a high level with someone that was 327 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: like that. Okay, so I just read you what Bill 328 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Belichick wanted in the in the nineties. You mentioned our reports. 329 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: I just pulled up mine here. So tell me the 330 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: crossover and we can look at it directly. Okay. Average 331 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: size and athleticism for the quarterback position. Operates at a 332 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: shotgun of pistol, showing incredible accuracy, efficiency, and poise. He's 333 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: a high effort thrower with slightly above average arm strength 334 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: at his best on touch throws where you can anticipate 335 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: placed the ball on the proper shoulder of his target. 336 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Shows toughness to hang in versus pressure, although he rarely 337 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: faced it with an elite offensive line. Isn't much of 338 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: a threat as a runner, he lacks a twitch to 339 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: consistently escape him by extra time time. Uh Jones should 340 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: become a starting NFL quarterback, but his lack of twitch 341 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: and athleticism will limit the playbook with the get with 342 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: the way the game is trending. So his negatives were 343 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: on things that Bill Belichick didn't really care about back then. 344 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: His positives are what he emphasized. And this is thirty 345 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: years later. Now you can say maybe Bill Belichick's changed 346 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: and evolved a little bit. Bill Belichick's got a fingers 347 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: full of rings from playing with a certain style of quarterback. Yeah, 348 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: and in DJ and here's what we always say is 349 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: tricky for us and what we're doing at scouts on 350 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: the outside for a team. We're evaluating players, but we're 351 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: evaluating them with maybe thirty two teams in mind. When 352 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: you work for a team, you have a certain list 353 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: of criteria that you're looking for because it's fit for 354 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: your team. And so that is why we've always said 355 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: that the draft boards around the league are like snowflakes. 356 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: Every draft board is different based on what you prefer, 357 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: what you want. What is very very it did what 358 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: are viewed as premium traits and a player. And as 359 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: you match your report up with what Belichick has said 360 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, you can see why Mac Jones was 361 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: a target and why they took him. And now, even 362 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: more than ever, you can see why there may be 363 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: this desire to play him even though he's young and 364 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: he may not have some of the talent that Cam 365 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: Newton has, he might be a better fit. Yeah, Accuracy, 366 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: decision making, toughness. I mean that's what Bill Belichick is 367 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: valued at that position, and those are I mean, look, 368 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: toughness is a wash. Cam Newton is incredibly tough, um. 369 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: But if we're just looking at accuracy decision making, I 370 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: give Mac Jones the edge of both categories. Yeah, I 371 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: mean accuracy as a thrower, for sure, he is there. 372 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: And then when it comes to decision making and judgment, 373 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: like it also includes some of the other stuff that 374 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: you brought into because Belichick you heard him talking about 375 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: not as much about intelligence, but he talked about instincts. 376 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: To me, instincts are part of anticipation and timing. No 377 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: one teaches you that. I feel like that's something that 378 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: you just have. Like when we're playing, it's almost like 379 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: trying to throw, uh, skip a rock and hit a boat, right, 380 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: A motivle is going. You have to just kind of 381 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: have a feel for when I let it go. I 382 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: don't know what you did as a kid man, but 383 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: I'll get you in big trouble, you know. Yeah, they 384 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: have a little level of anticipation to be able to 385 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: let it go when you want to pick it off. 386 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you just can you just confess to 387 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: a felony. I'm pretty sure is what just happened right 388 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: here on podcast Skip a rocket to all Right, let's 389 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: get to a couple of these other quarterback situations before 390 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: we get to a trade that fascinated me. Um, let's 391 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: start first of all, Teddy named the starter and you 392 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: know to me, well, let me just I won't lead 393 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: the witness here your thoughts. Uh, not surprised. And the 394 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: reason why I'm not surprised is look at the head 395 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: coach and the head coach his background. Typically, when you 396 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: have a coach that is a defensive coach, a defensive 397 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: oriented coach, the number one thing asked from the quarterback 398 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: is don't mess it up. Meaning the number one deciding 399 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: factor in football is a turnover battle. And so if 400 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback doesn't give the ball away. From a 401 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: defensive standpoint, you feel like you can play with that 402 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: guy because you feel like I can build a defense 403 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: to manage the game, and if I have a game manager, 404 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: I can be effective. Teddy Bridgewater is a lot of things. 405 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: Is not a lot of things in terms of being 406 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: like a high level UH thrower. He's gonna put it 407 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: on the back or whatever. But typically what he does 408 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: do is he takes good decisions. He understands how to 409 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: play winning football. And when you surround him with an 410 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: environment where he just has to be a part of 411 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: the machine, not the entire machine, he can function. Case 412 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: in point, how he succeeded in Minnesota when they had 413 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: the running game in the defense with Zimmer. How he 414 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: succeeded in New Orleans when he up field in for 415 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and they just had him manage the game. 416 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: That is when he is at his best. And that 417 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: is why I thought Vic Fangio would always select him 418 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: over Drew Lock, because Drew Lock is a bit of 419 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: a wild card as he plays a position. All right, 420 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I have to go, I don't have in front right now. 421 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: But Vic I believe was the defensive coordinator with the 422 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: forty nine when Alex Smith was there. Correct, Yes, yeah, 423 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy Bridgewater is Alex Smith. 424 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: That's they're the same guy. Yeah, the same exact guy. So, 425 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: um yeah, and I know Colin came in there, and 426 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: they had a lot of success with Colin, but um, 427 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: that's as a defensive coach, you hit the nail on 428 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: the head, don't screw it up, don't mess it up. Um, 429 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: protect the football. I get all that. Why he went 430 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: with him, I thought while that, you know, was probably 431 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: the way it was always going to go. I kind 432 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: of go with the two for one theory on these 433 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: on some of these quarterback jobs. We'll get to New 434 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Orleans in just a second. But I felt like with 435 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: a young quarterback with with more tools quite honestly, with 436 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: more ability, Drew Lock does um and was playing pretty good. 437 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: I thought, you you could go with Drew Lock with 438 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: a short leash, because that's a ceiling play, right, We're 439 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: gonna try and have the most upside we can with 440 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: all this, all these weapons that we have, and then 441 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: if Drew Lock struggles at all early, boom we we 442 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: go from him to Teddy Teddy's not gonna be He's 443 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: not gonna be in a bad mental place if he's 444 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: not starting. He's a veteran, he's been around numerous teams. 445 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: He's been a starter, he's been a backup. For him 446 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: to then come off the bench and take it over 447 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: and go with it, no big deal. That's unknown with 448 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Drew Lock. We don't know how Drew Lock and I 449 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: thought he handled himself very well at the press conference 450 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: the other day, showed a lot of maturity. But you 451 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: still don't know. I mean, how deflated you're gonna get 452 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: losing that job. Can he be ready at a moment's 453 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: notice if Teddy were to get hurt, or if Teddy 454 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: for some reason didn't play well four or five games 455 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: in I like the idea. In other words, I like 456 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: the idea of Teddy coming out of the bullpen better 457 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: than I like the idea of Drew Lock coming out 458 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: of the bullpen. I think the thing that uh cloud's 459 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: the situation is this Vic Fangio takes over and George 460 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: Patton is now the news are in Denver, and even 461 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: though their relationship to this point has been pretty good, 462 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: he's still not necessarily George Patton's guy. And so when 463 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: you are Vic Fangioe and you know that, hey, I 464 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: need to win some games. What is the quickest way 465 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: for me to hit the ground running. Let me start 466 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: the veteran quarterback who ah, by the way, happens to 467 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: be the GMS guy. I mean, I mean that is 468 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: also a nice coincidence, but not. But like, let let 469 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: me start a quarterback who's going to give me the 470 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: best chance to not mess it up out the gate 471 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: and give my team the best opportunity to win games, 472 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: to see if we can compete in the NFC West. Yeah, 473 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: And it's a it's a lesson I think that a 474 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks have learned over the years. We always 475 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: talked about in the draft room. He'd be in there 476 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: and you'll be talking about a player and we always say, look, 477 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: every player needs a sponsor. You gotta have sponsor in 478 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: the room. Who is your guy who's gonna go to 479 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: bat for you? And it's it's just kind of the 480 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 1: way the way it works. But when the guys who 481 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: drafted you were no longer there, ty doesn't go to 482 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: the runner anymore. You're not the runner anymore, you know 483 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, you've got to be significantly better 484 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: than the other guy to Wayne Lows win the job. 485 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: That that that really matters. Everybody needs an advocate, and 486 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when we're having these 487 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: meetings amongst decision makers, that voice that sway matters. And 488 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: if you're Vic Fangio, you certainly have to sit at 489 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: the poker table and be able to read the room 490 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: if the room is leaning towards Teddy Bridgewater. Sometimes you 491 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: do that, And but I really believe it is more 492 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: so the ability to be a caretaker of the offense, 493 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: more so than a high risk hyperd war player, probably 494 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: facted more into the situation than the connections with your bat. 495 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: I think this Denver Broncos team it provided Teddy, you know, 496 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: can score enough points, which he should with all the 497 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: weapons they have around him. And improved offensive line over 498 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. You had Javonte Williams into 499 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: that backfield, who we both love. You get Jerry Judy, 500 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 1: your two Courtland Suns come. I mean, they they got 501 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: a lot of dudes man like and then you look 502 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, they can really 503 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: rush the quarterback. I think they've got us a star 504 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: and Patrick's ertan. I mean, they've they've got pieces man 505 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: to be a playoff team right now. They got a 506 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: really good team. They have a really good team on paper. 507 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: And Mike Munchak hasn't got enough credit for the job 508 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: he's done up front. Javonte, We may give Announces an 509 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: opportunity to really talk about the job that he's done 510 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: because he's absolutely fortified their front line and some of 511 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: the issues that the Steelers have been dealing with the 512 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: last couple of years with their offensive line. Yeah, Mike, 513 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: my much as departure. Okay, let's let's get to one 514 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: other quarterback situation before we get to this trade. Um 515 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: thoughts on New Orleans. We saw the game the other night. 516 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about this on the pod the other day. 517 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: We tease we'd hit it today. So just what do 518 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: you think goes on there? You know? And in my mind, 519 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I think this is easy and you and I have 520 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: talked about this. Uh, if you name Jamis Winston the 521 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, you still get the taste m Hill factor. 522 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: If you name Taysom Hill the starting quarterback, you lose 523 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: that added dimension. To me, it is very simple. Jamis 524 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Winston is the starter. I still mix in Takesom Hill. 525 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm still able to do a bunch of different things 526 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: with Taysom Hill, not only as a Wildcat quarterback, but 527 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: as the Swiss Army knife plane tied in h back fullback. 528 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: I like that scenario better then Taysom Hill playing at quarterback. 529 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: And truth be told, I think Jameis Winston is a 530 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: better quarterback than Taysom Hill. I believe his experience. Um. 531 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: I think he has over two thousand past attempts. Taysom 532 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: Hill has less than two hundred. I think all of 533 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: that matters. And if you really I don't want to 534 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: say you dismissed the last year in Tampa because the 535 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty thing is real. But also understand he 536 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: had never had more than twenty interceptions in a year 537 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: prior to playing that one year and Bruce Arian system 538 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: and Bruce Arian system also led to an upticking interceptions 539 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: for Tom Brady. So some of it is Jameis Winston 540 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: being the decision maker that he is kind of like 541 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: that borderline decision maker. But some of it also was 542 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: the scheme where they really pushed the ball down the 543 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: field and he no risk and no biscuit is the mentality. 544 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: I believe James would do a much better job of 545 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: being more efficient and affected in Sean Payton's office, as 546 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: we've seen in the preseason. So this is someone something 547 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: somebody mentioned to me the other day and I didn't um, 548 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: and maybe I've just missed it. I haven't seen people 549 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: talk about this publicly, but I just looked it up 550 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: and there there's articles about it from the beginning of camp. 551 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: But um, did you did you notice that Taysom Hill 552 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: had lost a bunch of weight, So so he he 553 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: wanted to really go for this quarterback job, and he 554 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: thought one of the things he really need to do 555 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: was to change his body, so he leaned out, he 556 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: lost weight. His quote here is, yeah, I leaned out, 557 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: came in a little bit lighter than I would normally 558 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: come into camp, and then my weight room routine through 559 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: the off season was quite a bit different as well. 560 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: So not as much from a lower body standpoint, but 561 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: everything upper body, backside, shoulder was a bigger emphasis and 562 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: so forth. So we've been talking and we've said that 563 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: we were singing the same song. Right you get you 564 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: start jamis and you get taste them and and we're 565 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna get the same tastem we've seen over the last 566 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: several years. Speed, toughness, breaking tackles, And I'm sitting here 567 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: going we'll hold up. If he's lost a significant amount 568 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: of weight and he hasn't been working in his lower half, 569 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: you're not going to get the same tastum in that 570 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: role that you've got otherwise. No, you won't. And DJ, 571 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, like working out for him to go back 572 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: to be in the O tasting, it would take eight 573 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: weeks at a minimum to build that back, and he 574 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: would have to do it in season, which makes it 575 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: even harder because all the running get you're doing in 576 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: practicing those things. Um, I don't really understand, Like did 577 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: Tastem do this with consultation of the Saints. I'm sure. 578 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure they were competing. You're you've got to cheer in. 579 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: You're competing for this job. You've got a chance. So 580 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: you're sitting there, if you're tastom Hill, you're going, Okay, Well, 581 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: I get one shot to try and be a starting 582 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. I'm gonna do a less squatting 583 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get the bands out and I'm gonna 584 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: limber up a little bit and uh and see if 585 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: that can help me with with you know, accuracy and 586 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: throwing the football where you want to throw it. I mean, 587 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: so he has all the pliability and all the things 588 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: that we talked about with the bands. So he's he's 589 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: now become a pitcher not a position player. I mean, 590 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: we'll just think about it. Think about it. You've seen 591 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: the way quarterbacks train versus the way of h back 592 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: would train. That's a different that's a different deal. The 593 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: other thing I worry about is is this man DJ 594 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: has his mentality changed because that's toughness thing is part 595 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: of his mentality. So now if you ask him, all right, 596 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: here we go, put you back in the slot. We 597 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: can have you run up inside. Did he have that 598 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: in him anymore? Did you have that it's a little noisy. Yeah. 599 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: I'll think about the first time that Jamis has a 600 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, three turnover game and then all of a 601 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: sudden you're in the game going like wait a second, 602 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: I can't I'm run out of bounds. I'm not gonna 603 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: take this punch. But I could be playing quarterback next week. 604 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: Like nobody's a lot. There's a lot more there than 605 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: I think people were talking about Yeah. I mean, it's 606 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: great that you brought it up, because I never really 607 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: thought of it like that. But yeah, is he going 608 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: to be the same reckless, fearless player that we fell 609 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: in love with as a Swiss army knife or is 610 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: he in his mind always QB one? Because if he's 611 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: always QB one, he's gonna make decisions based on that. 612 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: It's easier when you got Drew Brees there and say 613 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm embrace this new role. He ain't going anywhere, so 614 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: I better find a way to make this team and contribute. 615 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: And now he might be sitting there same I'm practiced 616 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: next to this dude every day, like I'm I'm better 617 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: than him, you know, I don't know that that's that's 618 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: that's how every competitor think. So yeah, I'm sure there's 619 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: some of that, Like I can't believe they didn't give 620 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: him the starting quarterback and here I a a man out 621 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: here catching passes and I'm blocking. Uh, it changes, it change, 622 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: It can change. Not as simple as ever as as 623 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: I think I've done the same thing that we make 624 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: it out to be. Yeah, you can't. You can't flip 625 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: the switch. Is a very different things. I haven't thought 626 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: of it from mental standpoint. But that's a great observation 627 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: by you, um and great information and insight those people 628 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: that have noticed how he's laid out because I'm asked 629 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: with you, D. I hadn't really paid close attention to 630 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: his body when I got a chance to watch him. 631 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: But that's the significant thing, because remember he was the 632 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: the thick, rugged, muscular, muscle bound guy. And for someone 633 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: as a scout, when we dig back, okay, this is great, 634 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 1: you did all this a pliability, but let's remember when 635 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: you played quarterback extensively at b y U, you are 636 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: hurt each and every year. So he's avoided injuries being 637 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: the Swiss army knife because he's bulked up and been 638 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: a certain way. Is this also going to change his durability? 639 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: I want to know. It's been a couple of weeks, buck, 640 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: Can I get Can we get that in the notebook? 641 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: Can we squeeze that in the notebook? Trying to give 642 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: you one one idea a month, one idea of a month, 643 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: we might we might be able to squeeze that in there. 644 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: I got you, I got your linemen in there. Last 645 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: week when we talked about the size of the Baltimore Ravens. 646 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: I put that in there to take him here of 647 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: thing that is that is a very interesting thing, the 648 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: thing that we have to know. But I think I'll 649 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: change a little bit. Tyrn Matthew quickly came out and 650 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: talked about analytics, and he said that every player should 651 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: be utilizing analytics, and of course NERD Nation went crazy 652 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: and said, yeah, yeah, like this is what we should 653 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: do this and that I would think that you can 654 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: speak on this too, have been worked for the Ravens 655 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: and those things. I believe analytics have always been in 656 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: the pre game preparation process. When I was playing back 657 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: in the nineties, Gunthan Cunningham was a defense court in 658 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: for the CANCI the Chiefs DJ. We used to get 659 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: the scouting report, and in the scouting report it was 660 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback heat map where he personally had ditted up 661 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: where the ball goes and so it's kind of like 662 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: those charts where you see like the densely um compacted 663 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: things where a the ball goes to the right at 664 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: ten yards, the ball is in the middle right around 665 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: here and there. So I feel like we've always been 666 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: exposed to analytics, but maybe it was under the guy's 667 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: of a different name, we would call it a his tendencies. 668 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: This is what they look for, let's scout or whatever. 669 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: But Tyron Matthew shed light on analytics and encourage more 670 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: players to utilize it. In your experiences working in front office, 671 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: how much was it utilized when you were around the 672 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: building in the pregame preparation process. Yeah, I mean you 673 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: had tendencies for everything, every down, every down, every down 674 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: and distance every player. I mean that that stuff has 675 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: been around, I think. Um. To me, the the advancement 676 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: has been with the with the GPS and the analytics 677 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: stuff and and uh and even like you talked about 678 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: the heat maps, so there's the heat maps for quarterbacks 679 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: have been around forever. Uh. And I'm really trying to 680 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: learn more and more about the next gen stats to 681 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: go along with, you know, some of this GPS stuff. 682 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: So on. On my training camp tour, I was asking 683 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people about how they use it, what 684 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: different things they use. And I had never heard of 685 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: this before, but I thought, oh, that makes all the 686 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: sense in the world. The defensive lines and defensive coordinators 687 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: have heat maps on an offensive line, so you can say, 688 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: look at all their pressures for the year, and the 689 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: majority of their pressures are coming in the B gap 690 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: between X and Y. So on this side, this this 691 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: B gap, and then you can say, okay, well, this 692 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: is where we're gonna run our games. This is where 693 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: we want to put our best pass restaurant third down 694 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: because this outside shoulder is where everything's coming on this 695 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: particular player. So you look at across the board, You're like, okay, 696 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: well there's no no action. Nobody's getting home over here. 697 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: So we're gonna run all our games. We're gonna bring 698 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: our stunts. Are Blitzer is all from this other side. 699 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's great, that is next level. But 700 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: it is the advancement of being able to break it down. 701 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: When I was playing defensive back DJ, like they used 702 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: to have the young guys, and I was one of 703 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: those guys. They would say, Okay, I want you to 704 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: take all of the for the receivers, and I want 705 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: you to chart every route today run in a four 706 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: game breakdown. And what happens DJ over time you begin 707 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: to notice they run the same routes. So then what 708 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: you do is when you're playing it's almost like playing baseball, 709 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: right because I hear people talk about this. Uh my 710 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: son talks about it playing baseball. He says, Look, when 711 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: you go out the bat, you're not thinking about every 712 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: pitch that they can throw. You're sitting on We talked 713 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: about it. You're sitting on the fastball. And so it's 714 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: the same thing when you're playing defensive back as you 715 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: do the study a four game breakdown, if they only 716 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: run slants in breaking routes or whatever, you're sitting inside 717 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: and as soon as that shoulder goes inside, you're jumping it. 718 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: And that's when you make your plays. And so analytics 719 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: allows you to play faster if you understand it. And 720 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: you can marry the analytics with the film. All right, 721 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: the last thing, last thing here, real quick. The Sony 722 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: Michelle to the Rams, love it. I love it in 723 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: this factor, I didn't believe they had a high level 724 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: back behind cam Acres. When cam Acres went out, the 725 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: guys they were playing behind, I didn't think they were 726 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: good enough to attract the defense's attention, to make them 727 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: put an extra defenditor in the box and not put 728 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: the focal point on number nine. Sonny Michelle may have 729 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: issues that may prevent him from playing every game. But 730 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: when he is on the fuel, you still have to 731 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: account for him. And because he is a solid receiver 732 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: out of the backfield and those things. He's not cam Acres, 733 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: but he can give you the ability to do some 734 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: of the things that you were planning to do with 735 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: cam Akers, which will allow this offense to continue to 736 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: be balanced. And I keep looking at all these trades, 737 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: and I keep looking at what the Rams could have 738 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: done with picks versus the proven players that they receive. 739 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: And it's something you've been beating that drum for a 740 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: long time about the value of knowing it's clear packaging. 741 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: I don't have to wonder what Sony Michelle's I know 742 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: what Sony Michelle is and more than likely can be 743 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: much better than the fourth round pick that you gave 744 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: up for him. And and that's what they've done. And 745 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing on the counter I just 746 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: saw where the Patriots only have three homegrown players on 747 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: the current roster DJ that is unbelievably in apt production 748 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: in the draft. And so a lot of times we've 749 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: celebrated the Patriots for oh Man, look at them winning 750 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: the draft because they accumulate picks. But eventually you got 751 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: turned those picks into players, and right now they have 752 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: improven in recent history that they can turn draft picks 753 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: into high end players. That's problematic for the Patriots if 754 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: you're trying to build a team. This is hard to 755 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: be build a team through free agency. Well, that's gotta 756 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: be just somewhat recently then, right, because I'm looking at it, 757 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: Isaiah Winn was homegrown, or Michael Awaynew was homegrown, Shack 758 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: Mason was homegrown. Um, Damien Harris was homegrown. So it 759 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: must be in a period of time where they're talking 760 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: about high tower. Yeah, Albert Brier put out there about 761 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: just a handful of players and homegrown players, but the 762 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of their roster, our guys that we're not 763 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: drafted or their draft picks have just since departed. And 764 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: I think that is I mean, I just think that 765 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: is such a major to not have to kind of 766 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: be over over over a recent period of time to 767 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: have a decent number. That's a decent number guys, darn 768 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: near the whole offensive line. I mean, and Trent Brown 769 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: went away and came back. Well he wasn't a homegrown 770 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: though he was. He was a San Francisco pick. So um, 771 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: but no, it is it is uh, a team that 772 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: is not afraid to part with high picks for lower 773 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: picks either. That just it just never that never looks good. 774 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: You get away with it when you're Bill Belichick, but 775 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: it never looks like when you're trading ones, you know, 776 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 1: players that you took in the first round for fourth 777 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: round picks. But okay, so no, Patris now have five 778 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: homegrown first round picks left on their roster, Devin mccorody, 779 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: Dante how Tower, Nikkio Harry, Asiah Win and Mac Jones. 780 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: So that's just three from the last night classes. In 781 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: terms of the first round picks, first round guys. There 782 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: you go the first round guys. So so when you 783 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: think about that, like we always talk about first round picks, 784 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: you gotta nail your first and second round is, but 785 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 1: your first round is for sure have to be guys 786 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: that are the foundation of your team. So only have 787 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: three out of your last nine, Uh, that'd be good 788 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: in baseball, so great, no doubt. Um, all right, I 789 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: want to encourage everybody to listen to the Hard Knocks 790 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: podcast that drops each Tuesday after Hard Knocks runs. It's 791 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: hosted by our buddy Peter Schrager. You can find it 792 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast, so check out the Hard 793 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: Knocks podcast and else you want to add before we 794 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: get out here today. Buck, No, that's it. It's all 795 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: good man. I can't wait to see what happens. Go 796 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: through this last name, get to the final cousin, then 797 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: talk about it. There we go. All right, Well that's 798 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: gonna do it for us. Thank you guys for for 799 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: rolling with us today. We'll catch you next time right 800 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: here on, move the sticks.