WEBVTT - Nightcap Hour 1: Pro Football HOF INDUCTIONS + How LONG Will Antonio Brown WAIT for HOF? + Deshaun Watson STEALS Shedeur’s REPS

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<v Speaker 2>Guys who had a big day for the NFL. The

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Football Hall of Fame officially enshrined five members, Drew Brees,

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Craig, Luke Keigley, Laugh Fitzgerald, and Adam Vnitarry went

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<v Speaker 2>to the Hall today. I played against Drew, I played

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<v Speaker 2>against Roger Craig, and I played against Adam Vanity. Did

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<v Speaker 2>not play against Keighley or Laugh Fitzgerald. I think fitz

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<v Speaker 2>came the year after I had retired, So congratulations.

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<v Speaker 4>To all these young men in football Heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to tell the NFL story without telling these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>without these guys being involved in the NFL story. So

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<v Speaker 2>congratulations to these five men, much deserved earned. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I played against Roger when he was actually he was

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<v Speaker 2>at the Raiders at the time, not in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously Drew when he was at the Chargers. And

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Vnitaria obviously he was in New England. So congratulations

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<v Speaker 2>to all these men.

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<v Speaker 4>But the story now, O Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty seven first time eligible players, Rob Graham, cost,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Gronkowski, dunk, Adrian Peterson a dunk, Big Ben Roethlisberger.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be very very It's gonna be This is

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<v Speaker 2>where it is interesting, this is where it gets interested.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Sharon, we got cam we got Antonio Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a Levy Yall Veil, Andrew Whitworth, Alex Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>Gerald McCoy and Gerald McCoy and Eric Weddle.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, I think Rock, Gronk and ap all Day. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>how many get in.

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<v Speaker 2>You can, you can put up to seven. But they've

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<v Speaker 2>been backing it down. They've been putting in five the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years. A couple of years ago they

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<v Speaker 2>only put in free.

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<v Speaker 5>So like obviously everybody that's that's that's that's eligible, is

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<v Speaker 5>worthy of being in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>But my slam dunk, I want to add one more.

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<v Speaker 5>And despite what he may have done off the field

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<v Speaker 5>and some of the antics on the field as well,

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<v Speaker 5>Antonio Brown, Antonio Brown had a six seven year stretch

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<v Speaker 5>maybe eight unk where there's never been a receiver to

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<v Speaker 5>ever put up those type of numbers. Joe that did

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<v Speaker 5>some of the things he did. Now most of the

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<v Speaker 5>time voters are going to judge also on what occurs

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<v Speaker 5>off the field as opposed to on But his numbers

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<v Speaker 5>is speak for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>What he was able to do.

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<v Speaker 5>He's one of the best in the history of this game.

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<v Speaker 5>In the history of this game, and the story of

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<v Speaker 5>the receiver position cannot be told without mentioning Antonio Brown.

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<v Speaker 5>Not know, it probably will hurt him, you know, with

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<v Speaker 5>it being his first time, being the first ballot, based

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<v Speaker 5>on some of the things that have occurred that probably

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<v Speaker 5>rubbed some of the voters the wrong way. So they're

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<v Speaker 5>probably gonna make him. Wait, I mean your your picks

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<v Speaker 5>with all day. Adrian Peterson, that's a no brainer. Gronk,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a no brainer. Andrew Whitworth and what he was

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<v Speaker 5>able to do well he was able to do in

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<v Speaker 5>Cincinnati and in LA being a centerpiece, you know, for

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<v Speaker 5>the left tackle position, he was great, great as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Richard Sherman being a part of that legion, the legion

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<v Speaker 5>of Boom leading the Boom being one of the best

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<v Speaker 5>defense ever you know, to be assembled.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can't tell that defense the.

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<v Speaker 5>Story, especially without Sherman, how well he played during his time.

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<v Speaker 5>So so many of those players are worthy for the

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<v Speaker 5>slam dunks.

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<v Speaker 3>Of those three out that did mention, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Joe, it's just hard for me to see, don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see. Yeah, if they don't let t o

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<v Speaker 2>in on the first ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and I know A B and AV were phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 2>And you and I have talked about this sister inception

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<v Speaker 2>of Nightcap. I said, A b Oh, Joe, AB didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize how special he was. That like you said, he

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<v Speaker 2>had a six or seven year stretch that was as

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<v Speaker 2>good as any receiver that has.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever played the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But his behavior both on and off the field is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hurt him, and you're gonna have to wait some time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about some a very long time because his

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<v Speaker 2>antics are fresh in people's mind that and maybe for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people the last straw or show is

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<v Speaker 2>that what he did.

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<v Speaker 4>At the Jets when he.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna see it, they said, Now they said, All

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<v Speaker 2>I know is they say behavior now matters where it

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<v Speaker 2>never mattered before, and t O never had any issues

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<v Speaker 2>of the field.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to see how we judge Ben Roethlisberger. Hmm. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>Eli Manning comes back up on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know they're not gonna let a man

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<v Speaker 3>and wait that long.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know that, well is this will be his

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<v Speaker 2>third third try baby three times a charm a.

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<v Speaker 1>So y'all telling me out of all these guys right here,

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<v Speaker 1>they only gonna take about five of them.

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<v Speaker 2>If they take that, I don't know if they take

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<v Speaker 2>that many. Now, now, oh Joe, they might be some

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<v Speaker 2>guys gout. There's some guys that didn't get in this

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<v Speaker 2>year that's gonna be on the ballot next year. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's some old timers that's gonna be coming up. So

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<v Speaker 2>some senior guys. So it might be. You know, Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Taglibo is gonna come back up. I think Mike Shanahan

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<v Speaker 2>is starting to get Hi some support, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he should because they're guys that have less Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>wins than Mike Shanahan.

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<v Speaker 4>What he did in Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you tell the story of the Broncos in

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<v Speaker 2>the back to back champion without telling Mike shanahan story

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<v Speaker 2>being a part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's more of a deserving And.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the cast I look down on anybody else

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<v Speaker 2>because I believe I can shine a light on Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Shanahan without dimming the light on someone else. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>the way I feel. But yes, I am biased. I

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<v Speaker 2>make no bones about that. We do not become back

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<v Speaker 2>to back super Bowl champs without Mike Shnahand that being said, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe cam is on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>Searn. They came out in the twenty eleven draft that

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<v Speaker 4>was a loaded draft.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough, they said, from what they've what I've told

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<v Speaker 2>is that the first ballots, those are for the Jared Rices,

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<v Speaker 2>the Joe Montanas, the Tom Brady, the Peyton Manning, those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>the John l Wad's, the Reggie White's the Lawrence Taylor's. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>how many of those guys you see comparable to that?

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I think Gronk is one of the two

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<v Speaker 2>best tiens in football ever. I think he and Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 2>I got Kelsey a slight nod for what Kelsey's been

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<v Speaker 2>able to do in the postseason. You've never seen with

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<v Speaker 2>the exception and the Super Bowl in which they lost

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<v Speaker 2>to the uh But he's been big every Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>he shows up, every playoff game, he shows up. He's

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<v Speaker 2>rivaling Jered Rice as far as catching yards shut down

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<v Speaker 2>he might have surpassed him in a few of those.

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<v Speaker 2>So he and Kelsey and Gronk, those are.

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<v Speaker 4>My guys for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not a knock on anybody else, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know there's some hell of a tight ends from Winslow

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<v Speaker 2>to MACKI and Dicker Gates myself, Ozzy. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of guys, a lot of guys that belong in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But for what these guys were able to do in

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season and the postseason and the touchdown that

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<v Speaker 2>Gronk's go I mean, I mean, I mean, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you say, Chad?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 2>And Kelsey is still still going strong thirteenth out where

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<v Speaker 2>he had thirteen thousand yards a thousand catches.

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<v Speaker 1>A Hey, y'all, don't think Cam Newton is sure in

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<v Speaker 1>first ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean considering the fact hold on, hold up on,

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<v Speaker 4>hold up on not.

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<v Speaker 1>Only did get to the Super Bowl, bo we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably the leading rushing in the NFL when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to quarterbacks and touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>At my right or wrong, I think I think what

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<v Speaker 2>you call him, it's pasted him. I think Lebar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we have to look that up, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's I feel like Cam Newton kind of

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<v Speaker 1>started that dual thread. Strong physical quarterback who can run

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<v Speaker 1>and pass.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see how he ain't gonna. I don't see

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<v Speaker 4>how he ain't first ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just basing it on what what the what they've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing since I've been following it. Yeah, Eli went

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<v Speaker 2>back to back. ELI won two Super Bowls and he

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<v Speaker 2>beat Tom Brady to do it, and he didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>in on first ballot. Hel Yo, he's coming up on

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<v Speaker 2>his third ballot. Kurt Warner is a two time league MVP,

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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl MVP with the three Super Bowls. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get in on the first ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>They are very, very particular who they let in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you think about Luke Keickley played eight years. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>fire time first team All Pro in eight years, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was Defensive Player of the Year and Defensive Rookie

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year, and they didn't let him.

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<v Speaker 4>In on the first back.

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<v Speaker 5>Even though his career was short, his impact during that

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<v Speaker 5>time was phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>He was Joe. He was different Joe in that eight

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<v Speaker 3>year span. I'm talking about. You turned the tape on,

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<v Speaker 3>well you see fifty nine every.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir, unbelieved unbelievable career even though it was only

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<v Speaker 5>a year.

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<v Speaker 2>He got my vote for Defensive Rookie of the Year

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<v Speaker 2>and Play of the Year and defensive player.

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<v Speaker 4>He got my vote absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Alex, Alex Matt I'm trying to say what he played.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't he play at the Jets, Alex mack No, he

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<v Speaker 2>played at Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>He just start up for Cleveland McCoy. Hell, they even

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<v Speaker 4>let Johnny Randall in on the first ballot. And I

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<v Speaker 4>held and yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I used to think. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>used to think the first ballot, Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>It all comes It all depends on the player. It

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<v Speaker 5>all depends on the player. It all depends on obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>those that are doing the voting, that are letting the

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<v Speaker 5>players in. You you have to you have to align

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<v Speaker 5>with them and their core virus and what they think

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<v Speaker 5>a player should be like in getting it on their

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<v Speaker 5>first on that on that on that first ballot. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's different sometimes. But I don't like about those in

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<v Speaker 5>a position of power to vote those in is they

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<v Speaker 5>hold grudges based on things that have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 5>with the game of football.

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<v Speaker 3>They have nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 5>What did you do in between them lines on Sundays

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<v Speaker 5>at one o'clock and at seven point thirty and sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>it vote. That's all for me, if I was voting,

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<v Speaker 5>what you did on that field?

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<v Speaker 4>How how impactful were you?

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<v Speaker 3>Not just one or two years.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm talked about consistently every single year, especially when your

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<v Speaker 5>off as a player, and their scheming to stop you

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<v Speaker 5>and they know you coming and you they'll get it

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<v Speaker 5>done consistently over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, o Cho, they still got Tory Hope on the ballot,

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<v Speaker 2>They still got Reggie Wayne on the ballots.

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<v Speaker 5>Too many greats, too many and we're not to buy

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<v Speaker 5>just regular players.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither too many greats you mentioned in legends.

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<v Speaker 2>But you said something very interesting. You said, the guys

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<v Speaker 2>men and women, there are fifty man and women voters

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<v Speaker 2>now because when I went in there were only forty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're fifty. With that being said, they changed the

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<v Speaker 2>bylaws with y'all to keep t On from getting it

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<v Speaker 2>in on the first ballot. They changed the bylaws. They

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<v Speaker 2>said what you did on the field could negatively impact

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<v Speaker 2>when it came time to voting. They changed those bylaws

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<v Speaker 2>proud of that. Nothing they said, nothing other than football

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<v Speaker 2>impacted whether or not you got in. Based on that alone,

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<v Speaker 2>you already know ab not getting it on getting in

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<v Speaker 2>anytime soon. Also with that being said, o Jo, you

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<v Speaker 2>say people hole grudges. You got to realize, I understand

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<v Speaker 2>these are fifty minute women.

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<v Speaker 4>That are humans that have emotions, that have feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, it's just like you, somebody wrong

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<v Speaker 2>you and then come down the line they want you

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<v Speaker 2>to do them a solid.

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<v Speaker 4>What you how you gonna have.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you when you're right, I'm with you when

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<v Speaker 3>you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>But come on, people are like, oh, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>set down aside.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't sit it aside.

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<v Speaker 2>But people always you know what I noticed on your

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<v Speaker 2>people always ask you to do something that never do hey.

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<v Speaker 3>But but also you have to think about it.

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<v Speaker 5>The people that are voting, the people that in these

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<v Speaker 5>positions to power, they understand the controls that they do have.

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<v Speaker 5>They enjoyed that satisfaction to be able to control whether

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<v Speaker 5>you want to get in or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>But also, whatever these players did that they might not like,

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<v Speaker 5>it didn't affect them in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't actually affect you in general. It doesn't so

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to grudge against something.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a reporter. Let me ask you, you porter, So you

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<v Speaker 2>come to me after the game. Hey, miss Selle, what

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<v Speaker 2>you think may get out my face? Now, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give you my butt the kids for about a decade.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's gonna come time for me to be a

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of fa getting the Hall of Fame vote, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna need your vot.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't Joe tell me how you thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>You see you're going with it.

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<v Speaker 5>So now now that that situation, that situation in general,

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<v Speaker 5>that comes down to Bill Belichick not going in first ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, there you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, Joe prime example, six Super Bowls, nine Super Bowl appearances,

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<v Speaker 2>two Super Bowl wins.

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<v Speaker 4>As a defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so great that they took the game planning

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<v Speaker 2>in which you used in nineteen ninety to stop the

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<v Speaker 2>k Gun.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>As you and I talked today, he didn't get in

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<v Speaker 2>the first ballot because why behavior now? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Belichick, I think the world. I think Coach Belichick

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<v Speaker 2>is the greatest NFL coach in NFL history. Oh man, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are a lot of people that do not like.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach Joe, and they don't like me the Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do you think I had I had put my

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<v Speaker 5>Hey do why you think I put my own jacket on?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Got time to play with y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>I already know it all. Hey, look, that's cheating hell

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<v Speaker 4>and Belichick didn't go in.

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<v Speaker 2>For so who was the first best? So what of

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<v Speaker 2>the p what coach is that? I mean, y'all gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it there, gonna make Andy Reid?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, no, so Andy?

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<v Speaker 3>And Big Red absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Big Red with the tiny coach you coaching

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<v Speaker 2>my brother now he was he was up there. And

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<v Speaker 2>John Gruden, Yeah, he was in Green Bay, Yeah Bay, Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>All of them.

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<v Speaker 2>When Homer and got the job in ninety two, he

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<v Speaker 2>took all those was on the staff in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>He took all those with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Steve Marriucci did Jeron, all of them was on

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<v Speaker 2>the staff. Ray Rhodes, yeah, Gruden, all of them was

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<v Speaker 2>on that staff.

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<v Speaker 4>Andy Reid, Sharan. Sharan was the offensive coordinator. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing, though, you see, and the thing is

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<v Speaker 2>is that. But that's the only way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how else can you get a Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Fame unless you have somebody vote on it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we hate subjectivity.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's why, you know, if I'm gonna die,

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<v Speaker 2>if I die before I do gymnastic o Joe, it's subjective.

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<v Speaker 2>I might hit the most difficult thing in somebody. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's all right, right, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I want to win. I'm the first one

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<v Speaker 4>to the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>I touched the wall first, I broke the finish line first,

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<v Speaker 2>I lift the most weights, I threw the thing the farthest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>So the whole Bill Belichick thing, now, I know, obviously

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<v Speaker 5>he didn't sit right the way he did he did

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<v Speaker 5>reporters obviously not being really given too much information.

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<v Speaker 3>His answer was short. And the thing about him is

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<v Speaker 3>he was consistent. It was him. It was always him.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people didn't like the way he did things,

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<v Speaker 5>but he did it his way, in his way.

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<v Speaker 3>It did one thing. He won. He won doing it

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<v Speaker 3>exactly like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And to have a coach like that, that basically says

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<v Speaker 5>the standard on what every coach would want to be like,

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<v Speaker 5>you want to consistently win like that time and time again.

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<v Speaker 5>He had a twenty year run which was unbelievable in

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<v Speaker 5>New England and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm precedented yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So to leave him out, man, I mean, he is

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<v Speaker 3>the standard.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll never see another run like that. Aa And I

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<v Speaker 4>did not know that they made the man.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, Joe, yeah, Joe, Yeah, yeah, he was He

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<v Speaker 5>was up last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he didn't go in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So now guess what, Joe, He's on the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seventh ballot, alone with Reggie Wayne, alone with Tory hot Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying. Yeah, with Eli Manning, with

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Roethlisberger. So the names that we just mentioned on

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<v Speaker 2>the first ballot, you got six more people that came

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<v Speaker 2>in that might be on the second, third, fourth, or

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<v Speaker 2>fifth or sixth ballot.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, ah yeah, ah yeah, oh yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 4>see to day, I see what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said, look, we we we were putting too

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<v Speaker 2>many people in. We were diluting the product. So they

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<v Speaker 2>made a conscious decision. Like I said, I think, what

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<v Speaker 2>was it a couple of years ago? It was only

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<v Speaker 2>three I think yeah, three, maybe four? Uh with Gates

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<v Speaker 2>when Gates went in, uh Alan, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>the other guy was, but it wasn't that many guys

0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.440
<v Speaker 2>that went in that year. But it's it's it's tough

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody if you get if you get to this

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<v Speaker 2>point when you make the final, when you make the finals,

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<v Speaker 2>because they started out with like one hundred and twenty people, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they will let down to seventy five, they

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<v Speaker 2>will let down to fifty, they will let down.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Joe, Hey, Joe, Hey Joe, hey, I inducted myself, Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>I made me made me a gold bus.

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<v Speaker 5>I see hey, hey chat, this is this is me.

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<v Speaker 4>Turn it to the sign just like me. Don't it

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<v Speaker 4>look like I a Robot.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Joe, Hey, Chack.

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<v Speaker 5>I want you all to understand, right, I love I

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<v Speaker 5>love I love the Hall of Fame. I love the

0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 5>voters that in the position of power to control the

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<v Speaker 5>narrative on who they want in and who they don't.

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<v Speaker 5>So I I hey, Joe, I inducted myself. I made

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<v Speaker 5>me a fourteenth. This is fourteen carry gold bus Hey, Joe,

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<v Speaker 5>wait by weigh about thirty pounds.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe love bus Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have people. I have people in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now is I'm trying to track down that jacket

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<v Speaker 5>I put on when we played the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was Thursday Night football, that jacket I

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<v Speaker 3>put on.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to find it so I can frame it

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<v Speaker 5>in the background. And you know, I had my own

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.000
<v Speaker 5>little Hall of Fame ceremony and all Joe in the

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<v Speaker 5>locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>After the game, he ain you deserve joepreciate you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know I sometimes sometimes Joe, when they don't celebrate,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to give yourself your own flowers.

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<v Speaker 4>You hit me. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I agree. I agree

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<v Speaker 4>with you, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's gonna be it's gonna be very very, very

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<v Speaker 2>very very interesting to see this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Boy, this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, because, like I said, the guys that haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 2>in in the past couple of years because the problem

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 2>that I have, and this is what I said, what

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get in guys, I said, if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>love my numbers this year, you're gonna hate them next

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<v Speaker 2>year because they feel I'm not gonna add you. Because

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 2>think about it, if you don't like Tory Holt and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Smith, you don't like you don't like Reggie Wayne's

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<v Speaker 2>numbers in two to three years when these guys come out,

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<v Speaker 2>these guys gonna have twelve hundred thirteen catches. Yea, so

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.200
<v Speaker 2>so so now you're like, you don't have the five

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<v Speaker 2>and catches?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, five and catches back then with a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>damn catches.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we marvel at the guys that came that

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<v Speaker 2>that had those kind of catches and the like Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>starting to then we started seeing guys get a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>because they were running the football back then.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just and when you get to this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody feel that they're more than deserving, that they've earned

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<v Speaker 2>the right because there are a lot of guys that's

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 2>been to five six seven, eight, nine, ten Pro Bowls.

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:20.400
<v Speaker 2>They've been a two, three, four time first team All Pro.

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 2>They've been an all decade player. So what's the how

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<v Speaker 2>the I mean to say, Well, you know, I gotta wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta wait, man, Hell, I want my family to

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 2>see me. I want to you know, I don't want

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 2>to go up there a minute. Damn wheel chik walk

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 2>and kant enjoy it. Hell, let me enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>He I love it. It's awesome. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm being in being able to watch Larry Fitz and

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 5>Looke up there, man, and seeing them boys talking and

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 5>Larry you know, giving this his his flowers to Randy,

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 5>and then how he inspired and motivated him. It was

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 5>a dope thing to see. It was a dope thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's a good thing. He honestly, Joe, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>good thing. They don't with me in boy, you hear me?

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<v Speaker 4>What Joe? What?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? You you never see an interest or a speech

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<v Speaker 3>like that ever? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I shall hope. I shall hope your your team

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<v Speaker 2>do like most teams do. Those teams they put the

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.120
<v Speaker 2>bill for their players. I don't know what Cincinnati gonna do, Ah,

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 2>mister Bee coming everything, mister Bee covering everything for me.

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>You hear mister Wilson, he covered things for his players

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 2>when they got there. Uh, the forty nine of guys

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<v Speaker 2>Edite de partlope, probably Jerry, I'm assuming.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me.

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I know mister Wilson what he did for Bruce and

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and and Thuram and those guys. I know what mister

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Bowling did for me. So I can't speak for anybody else.

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be presumptuous. And I know I

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<v Speaker 2>was taken care of. The reason why they have it

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 2>in the stadium now was because of Jim Kelly. It

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 2>used to be on the steps of the Hall of Fame.

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Jim Kelly brought a thousand guests.

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<v Speaker 4>What hem.

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Jim Kelly brought damn near everybody in Pennsylvania and one

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 2>thousand people. So that's why, now, Joe, that's why. Now, guys,

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.919
<v Speaker 2>it's in the stadium becoming Kim damn.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing else, when I went to the Ring

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 2>of Fame, he brought my family, brought my family, he

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 2>brought my coaches, he brought my homeboy, he brought everybody.

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Put us up, had a sweet to ourself the night

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 2>before Mike Hey eighty four, I want to do something

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 2>for you, like, well, you know I might. It's like

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 2>once you get to fair I said, Mike, here's a

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>I said, Mike, here's a bunch of us. Don't worry

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:45.360
<v Speaker 2>about it. Before we got.

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<v Speaker 4>The ass, Why man, don't nobody drank no wine?

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Man with Drake Morgan David Where I grew up Joey

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about some some protruser all that board dog and

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>all that other stuff came Nah, man going to get

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:04.880
<v Speaker 2>some Morgan David and you know we call it a knight.

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 4>I like it. Hey, listen, listen, they gonna take care

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 4>of No.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, don't do that, Joe, don't don't do that.

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 3>I like it the way it is.

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 5>No, you don't understand, Joe, and no, no disrespecting the boards,

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, getting in But you have to understand, Joe is.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 5>I understand the meaning of it, right, But it's not

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 5>something that I actually need because I understood when I

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 5>was playing, I'm gonna conduct myself in the manner where

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people aren't going to like the way.

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I do things they're not, and I was. I was

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 3>okay with that.

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 5>So the fact that remains that I was able to

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 5>be authentical myself, and if that didn't sit well with

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 5>those that are in the positions of power that do

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 5>the voting, I'm good.

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 4>That's why I put who caught the yards? Who called

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 4>them yards? Who put them?

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 2>All the INDs on what I'm saying, all that, all

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 2>that other stuff, the proposed.

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Stuff.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 5>They look at all that though you and I understand,

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, they don't they should.

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm good, but.

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 4>You were not.

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Look, you were not disruptive on the field. Because the

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>thing is is that others when they be yelling and

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 2>kicking and sling, it's not They call that passion. They

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>called us a mild content. They call us being disrupted.

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I called y'all to kiss my you know what I mean.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 2>That wasn't my personality together. I did everything behind closed

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 2>doors because I knew everybody was looking. But nah, no, no, no, no, no,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 2>no no no, don't don't don't try to now say

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 2>what because one guy does it. He's passionate. He this

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 2>is how what he cares the game. He's show you

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>how he cares. And then somebody else they're being disruptive,

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 2>they're being mal content. Nah, that's something that they that

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>they put onto the receiver because the line share of

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the receiver, they kind of look.

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 5>I like it though, Joe doing doing just doing it

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 5>my way. Joe being the villain I enjoy I enjoyed

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 5>being a villain. I embraced that. And I think if I,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 5>if I, if I tried to be anything else other

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 5>than myself and the way played the game as a kid,

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 5>I think I wouldn't have been good.

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 4>No really so no, I agree, Hey, so you enjoyed

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 4>being at Yeah, I.

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Had to, Joe.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 5>I had to talk trash every week. I had to

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 5>because I had to add pressure to myself. For one,

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm in a situation. We were losing, we were playing.

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 5>We were bad during my time during my tenure. Hey

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 5>what I played eleven years. I had one good season.

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean totally as Joe, I had no choice. I

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 5>could fill up a stadium. Joe and we had we

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 5>were winning four game seasons. But I could fill up

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 5>a stadium based on ain't no telling what you gonna do.

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 3>I got to go watch. Yeah, I think you got to.

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 4>I had.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 5>I had to do what I did, and I mean

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 5>the cars I was dealt. I did the best I

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 5>could with the hand I was dealt Joe. You know,

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't able to play you know what I mean.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 5>Carson was phenomenal. It's just it's different where I went

0:29:58.200 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 5>the situation. I'm not with the forty nineers. I'm not

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 5>with the Packers, you know, I'm not with a franchise

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 5>that is known for winning.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 3>So Joe had to get that ship out of the mud.

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 4>Joe, you already know it. You had to get dirty. Yeah.

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed it, though, Boy I want I want.

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 5>Hey, if I if I had to do it again,

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 5>boy I do it the same way and add a

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 5>little bit more seasoned on it.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean I left, So I left many celebrations.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Because just think about it. Had you gone to a

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>coach like park Sales, he ain't having that. You go

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 2>to a coach like Belichick, So you would you would.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a it's a it's a fine It's

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>a fine line between being who you are, winning and

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.719
<v Speaker 2>like you were great, you were a great player.

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 4>There are some people that are great in the role

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 4>that they play that ain't you mm hmm.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>So they gotta let you in order for you, in

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 2>order for you to function. And I believe this. That's

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>why you were able to be your because I.

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Told you the first words Bill told me when I

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 3>got there, what do you doing? Oho?

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad to have you. It was awesome going against

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 5>you over the years. But you know you can have

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 5>to change.

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Who are to be here? And boy, from that day on, Joe,

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 3>I was walking.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 5>On eggs shells amongst the other why you why you

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 5>brought me here?

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Hey?

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Hey?

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>In other words, Bill will tell you, hey, look, look, look,

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>don't come here with all their yeah we need.

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 3>About it is.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 5>He ain't have to tell me that because when you

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 5>walk in, you already know what time it was.

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 3>I took I took a back seat. I was quiet.

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 3>I ain't do no media. I ain't what I got,

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 3>what I got to talk about?

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 5>Hey, hey, hey, he didn't have to say that because

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 5>I often to walk.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>A straight line anyway.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 5>You hear, you hear the stories even though you're not

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 5>playing for the Patriots. You hear the stories by Randy

0:31:56.360 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 5>Voss coming off a twenty three touchdown season, come playing

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 5>about his contractor was going in forty eight hours.

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 3>You think I'm for the company, agon for you?

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, man?

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Please see you go to the Ravens. Don't change nothing.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Just go be a raven. Just go play hard, do

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to do. Long long you ain't harming nobody.

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna play football. All those antics that don't mean nothing,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>don't mean nothing. I'll just say, hey, be you boy.

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:31.959
<v Speaker 2>If you talk, talk, don't come here. Be quiet.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Hey.

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm making a huge difference to where you

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>get drafted at. You know, in any sport, bro, it

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>makes a huge difference because absolutely it's coaches out here

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>who can hinder you, know your talent, and have you

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>pulling back versus trying to go forward.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean. So I think fit.

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Is key and who you get drafted to, you know

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, meaning the type of system you're playing in, Bro.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 4>That means everything I tell you. Oh, and I've been

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 4>saying this.

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>It ain't how high you go, it's where you go

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>that is the most important thing. And I know everybody

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>wants to be I want to be the number one pick,

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>and I want to go here, and I want to

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>go there. And you be the number one pick or

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>the number one pick overall, or a first round draft

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 2>pick and go into the wrong situation and then people

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 2>look at you like.

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 4>It's you're crazy, and your career it absolutely will, you know,

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 4>so where you go it's very important.

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 5>And obviously if you go that high and you go

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 5>to a bad team, do you know how good you

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 5>have to be? Do you know how good you have

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 5>to be the overshadow how bad the team is?

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's very likely, very very likely.

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, especially when you're when you when you play position

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>in the position. That's why you know you look at

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 2>a guy like a d hop like bro, do you

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 2>realize before before he got to Shawn who he had

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>thrown to it?

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Now? I think he had Matt Sean for a little while.

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Matt should be throwing the thing now, but he has

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>some he had some quarterbacks in there like.

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, and he still made it work.

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Yes, absolutely.

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 5>Hey, I got a question to h about about this,

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 5>to to find when it comes to the voters, the

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 5>people obviously we don't know who. Yes, do you think

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 5>it would be better at the fifty people that were doing

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 5>the voting were those that actually played the game or

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 5>should that not matter?

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Because there there are a couple of them now, I mean,

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>there are a couple of guys that's in the Hall

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 2>of Fame. That's on the committee. But it's gonna be

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 2>just like they did. It's gonna be just like they

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 2>did whenever we used to vote for the program. You

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 2>remember how they used to how they used to vote

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>for the Pro BOWLO.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, did they take a seas? See?

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 2>People forget see. Everybody keeps saying that. But you and

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I both know we voted, and we know. Hey, man,

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 2>go ahead, right, hey, whatever you said, whatever you think

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm just me how it is. I'm gonna

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 2>give you off I'm gonna feel some t. Oh, you're

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 2>not gonna feel some t. That's how they did it.

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to go in there and vote as a

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>as a collective group. Obviously, you can't vote for anybody

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>your team. Offense, vote for defense, defense, vote for offense.

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 2>The man shop, I got, man shop, I gotta go,

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>man go hey, whatever you say, man, you know, hey,

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 2>you know better than anybody.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 4>Man. You like it. You study them. But that ain't

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 4>the point.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 3>All the receivers. But who you got? Who are you

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 3>putting down?

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Thank you?

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay? Okay? Who okay? Bet I got I'm put him.

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 5>To him, put him to yeah, hey, Joe them boy,

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 5>being there Man boyd Jazz, who you done.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Hung out with in Miami, you hung out with it

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas. So that's why the lineman, for the most part,

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 2>you see the same offensive lineman go every year. That's

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.479
<v Speaker 2>why most lineman they get five t they get eleven, nine,

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 2>ten to twelve Pro Bowl selection.

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's funny too, because first of all, they

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 5>can't get stats, especially when it come to the lineman, Joe,

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 5>the lineman that duco over and over.

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Then actually beat them boys though. Yeah, if you beat

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 3>them dogs and beat them dogs.

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 5>That show up every week on film, you know as alignment.

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 5>If you go to Pro Bowls continuous a year in

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 5>the y'all, you you really good.

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 3>You're really good.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 5>There's no other way to measure you outside of what

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 5>you do on goddamn film.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.280
<v Speaker 3>It's no other way, especially your office alignment.

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 2>But I have seen some situations guys got their ass

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 2>in on reputation too. Don't let them fool yes, Joe, Yeah,

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 2>some guys get their ass in on reputation because they

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>were they were good and the year and I'm not

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 2>saying because you know, sometimes you you you miss a

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>year that you should have got in and there's sometimes

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 2>you get in on the year you should have kept

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 2>your ass at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm like,

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:53.439
<v Speaker 2>how the hell, bro, I'm like, man, cause you ain't.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 2>And guys and it started getting getting like, well, week twelve,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 2>week thirteen, guys start politickets. Hey boy, thats you boy,

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 2>get that vote? See you say, oh yo, note that's

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 2>exactly what they said.

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 4>Hey, that's a good one. Hey hey Sean, let you

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 4>boy get that vote.

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Now, that's a good one, man, Because back.

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 4>Then, guys used to, like everybody had.

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>For the most part, guys have football camps, so you

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>build you know, you built up a bond. You know,

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>you go out, you do the football cam, you go

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 2>out to e you know, you have a put time together.

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 4>But nah, oh Joe, I think uh.

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>In basketball, we used to vote to the players used

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to vote to for the MVP and all that they then.

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 4>Y'all did until nineteen eighty.

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen eight was the last year, the last year that

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 2>the players voted for the MVP prior to up until then.

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>So all those years, that's why Oscar the year, think

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 2>about it, the year Oscar tru had the triple double.

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>That was the same year that Will had fifty to

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty five and hold on, Wrussele won the MVP. That

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 2>was the greatest statistical season ever. You want to go

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>back and look at that season and look at those guys.

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Look at what walk Bellamy did, Look at what elgim

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Baylor did.

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 4>Look at what Jared West did. Huh, what's so boy Russell? Looked.

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Russell was fifty and twenty five and didn't win the

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 2>MVP and Oscar had a triple double. I think elgin

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Baylor was like thirty one and eighteen. Walk Bellamy was

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 2>thirty and fifteen. Jared West was like thirty five and six.

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Go look at those numbers and you voted, and you

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>went back Wade bag yonder hell I thought, I thought,

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.919
<v Speaker 1>I thought the players. I thought something much. I thought

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I was voting At one point, I thought we were voting, not.

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 4>On the MVP.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 2>You might have vote for then All Star, but not

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 2>the MVP. I think that man eighty was the last year.

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Damn yeah, man, they gonna they gonna get it, They

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep they gonna kick us players out of there,

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and because of favoritism for real. That that that's why

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, these analytic guys are really locked in bro

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>because they gonna give him an opportunity, you know what

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's a little different now, Fellas.

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Joe, But Joe, they say that was the greatest.

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>If you go back and look at Chad, do us

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>a favor. Go back and look at that sixty one

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>sixty two season and look at the MVP candidates that year,

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and if I'm not mistaken, hold on elgim hold one

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 2>because somebody, somebody served time in the military. It might

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 2>have been Baylor. One of those one of those MVP

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 2>guys missed part of the season because of it's military service.

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, I don't know where this boy be

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>getting his information from, but he be tapped in over

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that man, Chad.

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Look, I mean, I'm almost certain that I'm almost certain

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>one of those guys. I want to say Baylor. Don't

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 2>quote me on that, but I think it was Baylor.

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 2>But Baylor had a hell of a year. But that year,

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>go back and look at those those MVP candids numbers

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, what the hell Now, rebounding guys were

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 2>shooting for excuse me, f thirty percent, So there's gonna

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 2>be a lot of rebounds to grab joeyjo.

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 4>Damn it ain't like it. You look at it. Look

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 4>look at the numbers.

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Joe hold on, what was the numbers from when sixty

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 2>one sixty two? That season when will was fifty twenty five?

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I think, or what you call it was like eighteen

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and twenty two, eighteen twenty three.

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>That man, say, fifteen twenty five. I can't even imagine.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine somebody averaging them numbers, bro.

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 2>But then he said, y'all thought I was a fluke.

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 2>And he came back the next year and put up

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 2>fifty forty four and twenty seven. Ain't nobody gonna ever

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>break Wilson up. Go back and look what he did

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 2>his rookie year. Ain't nobody gonna beat there. Ain't nobody

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the rebound, the numbers, y'all would just say, start all

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 2>over scratch. Ain't nobody getting twenty three thousand rebounds?

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's crazy. Twenty five boys, A game is wild.

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Fifty point four man, Come on.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Man played every played forty eight point two minutes a game,

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 2>played every minute of the game.

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 5>Hey hey, hey, hey, Joe, man, he played in converts too,

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 5>didn't he that why I finished?

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Boy?

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Probably that was the only thing you could play here

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 2>a pro kids.

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Hey, think about it. And he had to have some

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 1>hard bottoms, you know what I mean? Playing all how

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 1>many when they playing eighty two back then?

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 4>U mm hmm back then too, they played eighty real.

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 6>He ain no orthitics, none of that, just straight straight

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 6>socks and socks and shoot, no cut, ain't know nothing, boy,

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 6>No cold tub, ain't no red light. Veryy hey Joe, Hey, hey, hey,

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 6>hey them boy build different back then, boy. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 6>they were built like hard cars back then. You know

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 6>now these cars made you touch them.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 3>They yes, Hey.

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 4>You remember, hey, you remember how you how your your

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 4>uncle's member was built.

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how hard your grandfather and hard they was. Yeah, man,

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 2>it ain't like that. No, they don't make them. This

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:33.240
<v Speaker 2>bit was hard, yes, oh, Joe. Change of plan. In Cleveland,

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Sean Watson and your Door Sanders had been rotating first

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 2>team reps on day when your Door was scheduled to

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 2>practice with the starting offense. DeShawn took every rep within

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 2>the one unit. Your Door split the remaining reps with

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.959
<v Speaker 2>Dalli Gabriel. In fact, Todd Munkets just said minutes before

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 2>practice DeShawn might end up with seven on seven, but

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>your Door would take the majority of the reps with

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the ones that did not happen. Monken did not speak

0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 2>to the media after practice, but according to Mary Kay

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Cap Brown's team spokeman, said there were personal groupings coach

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Munkin wanted to see Deshaun with today. He took all

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.919
<v Speaker 2>the first team reps on what was supposed to be.

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Obviously, it's what I already said was gonna happen too. Obviously,

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 5>you want to evaluate your talent. You want to evaluate

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, your quarterbacks, which the ones and those who

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 5>are going to actually be in the game. As we

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 5>get closer to the first preseason game, the one he

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 5>to work with the ones as much as possible. Why

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 5>he's probably ramping up the reps for Deshaun Watson with

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 5>the number one crew who on starting day in September,

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 5>whatever the first game is, it's probably going to be

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 5>Deshaun Watson again.

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Chat.

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 5>As much as I love as much as I love

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.800
<v Speaker 5>your Door, I would love for him to start. I

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 5>would love for him to play right now. But when

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 5>it comes to business, those that make the decisions, and

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 5>because how much Deshaun Watson is making this year, he

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 5>will be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 5>There's no if ends but about it. Who you might like,

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 5>who you don't like. I'm just just from a business

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 5>stand point. You're not having a forty million dollars quarterback

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 5>sitting on the bench because the rest of the world

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 5>wants to see she do her play.

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 3>That's not the way it works. Now.

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 5>If things don't go well, I say, maybe week four

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 5>or five, if things aren't going well and they're losing,

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 5>Shoulder would make his entrance and he would probably hold

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 5>on to that starting quarterback position for their remind of

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 5>the year and Deshaun going elsewhere next year.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>But it's gonna be too late. Then by that time,

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you you already know. You know how the NFL live.

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 2>It's hard you lose that you start out losing and

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 2>make it and make the playoffs. They're not built like that.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 2>They don't have that type of roster, they don't have

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that type of weaponry. And I'm just trying to figure

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.240
<v Speaker 2>out why you want to see him on personnel groupings

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.760
<v Speaker 2>when it's my day, when it's come to his day. Okay,

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 2>now you can see it. So what about tomorrow? Why

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 2>so we can't we can't do these groups tomorrow.

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 2>So, so what was so special about my day that

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to get the reps? We're supposed to alternate,

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 2>so we you didn't want to see him the group tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>Hunh Hey, hey, hey, I'm with you on this with oo,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you give Deshaun Watson a fast shake, you know,

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you give him an opportunity or to really come out

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and show and prove if he can get back to

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the elite quarterback play.

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<v Speaker 4>That he that he once was. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but but I think it's gonna be

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a short leash though, y'all. I don't think it's gonna

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>be like y'all saying five six weeks.

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it gonna take that.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 5>Hey, listen again, Deshaun Watson's success is going to be

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 5>contingent on those that are surrounding him.

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 3>Judy conception, bond them.

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Boy, he got some he got somewhere.

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Them boys have to be on point. They got to

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 3>be on point.

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm talk about every rep, no mistakes, no errors, getting open,

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 5>being effishing, you know, yack, run after catch.

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean every they got to be on point.

0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:59.879
<v Speaker 4>Did did they beep up? Did they beep up that off?

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 4>It's a line I don't know, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>About that, huh unk. Did they do something in the

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 1>offensive line? Man, that's gonna make the biggest difference right there?

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 4>You a all the weapons sound and look good out there.

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but hell, if I ain't got no blocking back here,

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 5>See Nathan they God damn, I can't. I can't wait

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 5>to see what's fo foll last name Fanning?

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 4>Fanning Fanning cut the rug last year.

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 3>I like young bull that boy, I like him boy.

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the thing is Joe you said, maybe

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 2>he can get back. If he get back to that

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 2>elite status, it'll be the greatest turnaround in NFL history. Hell,

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 2>no player has ever faught had such a precipitous drop

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:49.280
<v Speaker 2>and recapture it.

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 4>It's hard. Now.

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 2>We've seen players drop off a year and come back,

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Okay, in twenty nineteen played bad,

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 2>came back in twenty twenty, hit it up and went back,

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 2>went back like he was. But to have this many

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>years off and to pick back up where he wants,

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 2>we've never we've never seen that in the history of

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Never it's gonna be tough to do that, man, Yes,

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>especially there.

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 4>You think.

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>But my thing is the only reason why I say

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:23.720
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be tough, Uncle Ojo, because he hadn't played

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.959
<v Speaker 1>elite in quite some time.

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Because I think he got the weapons.

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Man. Hell, at the end of the day, it's uh okay, now, Joe,

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>let's not get carried away. He ain't throwing, He ain't

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 2>got Cincinnati welluids, he ain't got what the Rams got.

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:38.399
<v Speaker 3>He got he got, he got, he got.

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 5>Every team can't be loaded like Cincinnati or the Rams,

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:43.280
<v Speaker 5>or or or like the Seahawks.

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 3>But what he does have, they can't be like Detroit.

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 2>When you loaded like that, what do you do? And

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 2>when you're not loaded like that? What do you do?

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Missed the playoffs, middle around.

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 4>Wins. As much as we want to say, oh this

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 4>and that all this is.

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 3>The NFL, This is the best of the best, Now

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 3>we can't you. You got to work with what you got.

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 5>So what what they do have, even if there's different

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 5>levels of said talent, spread it around throughout.

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.240
<v Speaker 3>Your teams, right whoever the office is a coordinator.

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 5>Is for the Cleveland Browns, you got it. It's all

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 5>about knowing your personnel. Knowing not only knowing your personnel,

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 5>but knowing your player strengths, plan to their strengths, putting

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:32.320
<v Speaker 5>them in positions to make the plays, Understanding your quarterback

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 5>strengths and weaknesses.

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 4>That's all.

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 3>That's all I mean.

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.400
<v Speaker 5>Listen, I make it sound easy, but it's not easy.

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 5>But putting them in positions to make plays, knowing their

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 5>strengths and their weaknesses is going to be extremely important.

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 3>I know you've got an office to run. I know

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 3>you have a scheme. I know why you have a

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 3>way of that. You like to do things.

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 5>But if you don't have the personnel to do what

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 5>you like to do, you got the finagel a little bit.

0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 2>You can't finesse that much. Oh Joe, you thirty? You thirty?

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 2>What you thirty cent away from a dime? He you

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 2>mean for Nago. Let me ask you a question. Do

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>they got more talent than the Texans offensively team or

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>however you want to put it offensive defensively? What about Jacksonville?

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.439
<v Speaker 2>What about the Coats? What about the Broncos? What about

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City? What about the Chargers? What about Cincinnati? What

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 2>about the Ravens.

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I just went through so somewhere.

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 5>They they like, so I put it to you like

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 5>that matter of fact.

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 3>What you did. What you just did is you named

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.720
<v Speaker 3>tier tier tier one team. But it comes to talent.

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 4>I named teams in the AFC.

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm going by tears.

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we're gonna take the mission.

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's do they got more talent in Baltimore, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 2>and that that that might be, that might be that.

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 4>Even?

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let let's go to the AFC South Houston up

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:02.399
<v Speaker 2>there they would they got more talent in Houston, yes,

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 2>and no.

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:04.919
<v Speaker 4>Jacksonville.

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 5>Jacksonville got the edge offensively, well, go ahead, the Coats,

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:12.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh the Coases loaded.

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 4>Boy, Okay, now we got Tennessee.

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 3>That's about that's about even. That's about even.

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's not even. Let's go to the Let's go

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to the a f C, the l C West, the Broncos.

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 3>A different ball game, the Chargers, different ball game.

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 4>Kansas City ball game, the Raiders.

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're back even again.

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 4>Okay, AFC eve, So now you got the.

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 5>Patriots, different ball game, Buffalo in the class of their own,

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 5>jess in Miami.

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 3>All right, we're back even.

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 2>So, so you got sixteen teams, you tied even with

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:57.919
<v Speaker 2>four of them. So twelve team you got, you got

0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 2>twelve teams better than yours.

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Hey, totality.

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.360
<v Speaker 5>Now we can go position put position by position, position

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:08.360
<v Speaker 5>by position. There might be areas with Cleveland might have

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:10.439
<v Speaker 5>better players at Pacific position.

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 2>And every team, every team that we talked about, Joe,

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:18.359
<v Speaker 2>what do they have that's better than Cleveland quarterback there, Yeah,

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 2>every last one of those teams.

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 5>Listen, now you now that's why, that's why I'm trying

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 5>to nitpick. Now if we go by positions. Now, were

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 5>talked about Denzel Ward, we talk about the top three

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 5>corner NFL. That's just yeah, that's just one person though,

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 5>brother brother Jared Versu who's now there taking taking over

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 5>Miles Garrett.

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 4>I like it.

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I like them befitting absolutely absolutely, But.

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Guess what, they had a guy that got twenty three

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>sacks last year and they still couldn't make the playoffs. You,

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 2>no matter how good your defense is, you can't overcome

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 2>NFD offense. Your offense got to do something because guess

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.200
<v Speaker 2>what if they keep throwing your ass back down the field,

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.279
<v Speaker 2>guess what's going think about it?

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 4>What you call. They had five sacks.

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Then a Miles Gun had five sacks and they got

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 2>beat by twenty four points.

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.320
<v Speaker 5>The fact that he was getting all these sacks and

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 5>the other team and they planned from behind, I don't understand.

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.319
<v Speaker 5>I don't understand the team. The team they're playing again

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 5>doesn't even have to throw the ball and he's still

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 5>getting sacks.

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 2>So so that's the thing, and the thing is like, look,

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.359
<v Speaker 2>I wish to sew nothing but the best, but it's

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 2>just hard for me to see a scenario, guys where

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 2>he picks up and became what he became in twenty twenty.

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:32.319
<v Speaker 4>I just don't see it.

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't, And I think he has to be that

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:39.120
<v Speaker 2>in order for them to get to be playoffs because

0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 2>those teams that we mentioned, those teams are good. Houston's loaded,

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:43.720
<v Speaker 2>crazy Houston.

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 4>The Texans are loaded.

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 2>If CJ, if CJ can, if CJ plays like he

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:52.240
<v Speaker 2>did his rookie year, that's.

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.839
<v Speaker 3>A seasonal team. So there was a sold on. Hey Joe, Hey,

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:56.439
<v Speaker 3>there was a super Bowl team last year.

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Their defense until he later, but you boy, you saw.

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>That man play, Yeah, like four picks four or five?

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 5>I think I think also it also hurt Nicolls.

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 4>Some times he had three in the first half.

0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:14.359
<v Speaker 5>I think, hey, hold on, they're gonna be straight this year.

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 5>Tanked are coming back. I'm seeing Tank some of the

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:18.479
<v Speaker 5>clips with Tank dal Boy, I.

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 4>Saw him too. Yeah. I love David Montgomery. I love David.

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Montgomery even looking good.

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that defense gonna be every time man

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:30.800
<v Speaker 2>their defense.

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 4>And they defense always a one. But C. J. Stroud,

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 4>he got henna have to put up a shut up

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 4>this year.

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:40.040
<v Speaker 3>You're right, You're right.

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:42.759
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if we have a segment tonight and

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 5>we talked about any of these rookie receivers, but it's four.

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 3>I got on my radar. Boy, Jesus Christ, what's that?

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:53.760
<v Speaker 5>Jordan Tyson over there is acting a fool over there

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 5>in New Orleans.

0:53:55.440 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Cornell Tate over there acting a fool in Tennessee, young bull.

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, Chad, I don't know. Is it Anthony

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:05.920
<v Speaker 5>Robinson is out of Clemson? Am I saying his name?

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 3>That's over there with the commanders?

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Who are he cutting up? Please?

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Chad?

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 4>Please?

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I didn't I don't watched out.

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 5>I didn't had the people send me some of his

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 5>one on ones and some of the seven on seven stuff.

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 3>He's cutting up Jesus Christ.

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm saying his name right, Anthony Robinson, I

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 5>think so all he what it reminds me of.

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 3>He looks like a mon ros Saint Brown, his rock running.

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 5>His ability to create separation, his neck, you know, for

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 5>manipulating the dB in front of him. Man, he looked nice.

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:40.320
<v Speaker 5>And young Bull over there in Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 5>Antonio Williams. Antony Williams, I'm probably you'll probably see this clip.

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:47.760
<v Speaker 5>B Brah brought you the real deal. There's no reason

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:52.280
<v Speaker 5>he should be the number three. Case closed, no questions asked,

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 5>Antonio Williams.

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 3>Sorry for butchering your name.

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm bad. I got excited for a minute. But boy,

0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 5>you look good. You hear me, you look real good.

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 5>And now young bull Cyrus Allen over there in Kansas City.

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:05.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard I heard about him.

0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 5>Man, Yeah, that that that's gonna be another security blinker

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 5>for Patrick Mahomes based on what I've seen from him

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:12.320
<v Speaker 5>as well.

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Man, them four, them.

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 5>Four right there probably gonna come in. I think conception

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 5>is gonna play well obviously in Cleveland. But those four

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 5>right now.

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:26.240
<v Speaker 3>About Immediate Impact Day one. Welcome to the NFL.

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 2>I hope you're right. No, I hope you're right with

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:36.880
<v Speaker 2>a Cleveland because I show won't even if DeShawn is

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:39.680
<v Speaker 2>not there. I want him. I want him to I don't.

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want him to be I want him to

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.800
<v Speaker 2>have a couple of good years, a couple of good years.

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 2>So this is not like man man DeShawn was this

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 2>and then he just stepped off a cliff. Yeah, put

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 2>together a couple of good years if you can, Shador,

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I want your door to get an opportunity to play

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:55.879
<v Speaker 2>and to show that he can play at this level

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 2>and he can play at an elite level because he's

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 2>been very good at every level that he's played. You

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 2>look at what He goes to Jackson State and he

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<v Speaker 2>does good there, and he's like, well, yeah, but that's

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Jackson State. He goes to Colorado and he turns that

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 2>team around and it's it's over Colorado. All he does

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.919
<v Speaker 2>is win, and then everybody makes excuses for why he's

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<v Speaker 2>winning and how he won.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of the day, did you win?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, Joe, you know who else you got to watch?

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<v Speaker 5>For two uncles that God damn Jacobe Lane over there

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 5>in Baltimore. Yeah, Mikayle Lemon, I haven't seen much from

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.359
<v Speaker 5>Mikayle Lemon that you know. Philly doesn't put put out

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:34.560
<v Speaker 5>enough clips as opposed to the other teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, honestly is Kansas City is what you call him,

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:43.400
<v Speaker 2>K nine hitting people, hit the ball and he's everybody.

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I've seen that too. Damn he said he Hey, hold.

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<v Speaker 3>On, you saw to fight You saw to fight with

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<v Speaker 3>with Miles Garrett. Not Miles Garrett. God damn Kirk Cousins.

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<v Speaker 4>And oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't know somebody got that video.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I ain't see what happened.

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.200
<v Speaker 5>Hey, he must he must have touched you know, you're

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 5>not supposed touch the quarterback.

0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:10.800
<v Speaker 3>You never touch the quarterback.

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.239
<v Speaker 5>He probably flashed by him to you no more than

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<v Speaker 5>one time, and Kirk probably got frustrated.

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Probably threw the ball at him. Myself. I hope somebody

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<v Speaker 3>got They gotta leak that clip. I got to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about We're gonna talk about first Cousins later.

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Mikayle Liman is currently sidelined with a hamstring injury, so hopefully, hopefully,

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 2>uh he gets that rectified, They're gonna be caught you

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<v Speaker 2>with that, because the last thing you want is a

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 2>guy limping into the season. Yeah he ain't, No worry

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I mean, you took the guy with the

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:40.840
<v Speaker 2>first first round draft picks, so obviously you have very

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 2>high expectations.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, he's more than cable doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, don't be fooling around with that, because that's the

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 2>last thing you don't want that.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate the fact.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate the fact that people are getting hurt in

0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 5>training camp, not training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate I hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Like, Hey, that means they first off, that means

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<v Speaker 1>they go on an extra hard okay ojo. And if

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got a lot of guys, man who

0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 1>use training camp to get in shape.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You couldn't do that back then.

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 3>You can't do that, man, came well.

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Back at the back in the eighties, Joe, they would

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 2>go to they would go to camp for.

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Like eight twelve weeks, long time, damn.

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, you had time for you to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell now, with the kind of money that they're paying you,

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and with the kind of money that they pay these guys, now,

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<v Speaker 2>o Joe, why would you not want to be in shape.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what it is.

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, for the most part, your top got I mean,

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean the average salary got to be like.

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Three million dollars a year. Probably would you take when

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 4>you take.

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 2>The minimum sound the minimum salary and all the way

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to the top you condense it down, it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be like three million dollars. Astupid favorite look at what

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<v Speaker 2>the minimum salary, but what the average salary of the NFL.

0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be like two or to have three

0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 2>million dollars gotta be man, youse. Ain't nobody making no

0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 2>making those sixty thousand dollars like I did when I

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 2>gave it the league? Hell, everybody make it three four

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:09.600
<v Speaker 2>hundred five of at least hell practice squad guys on

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 2>yo making ten eleven thousand.

0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Dollars a week. Hey man, you know how easy camp

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 4>you day? Five point two million? Ojo?

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 2>That is the average salary. You mean to tell me

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you couldn't hire a trainer with that ojo? You could

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 2>hire you a nice trainer even if you wanted to ojo.

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 2>You could get you a self for one hundred and

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.280
<v Speaker 2>fifty two hundred thousand dollars to cook for you in

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:35.200
<v Speaker 2>the off season to get your butt in shape in

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a trainer. So I spent so ojo and somebody told you, say,

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 2>oo Jo, I'm gonna give me three hundred and fifty thousand.

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm at the end of the year, I give you

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 2>five point two million.

0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 4>Would you do that?

0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do that.

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 4>I do that.

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 3>But a one thing, one thing you ain't got to

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 3>worry about me is coming into.

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 5>Shape, because hell, I don't even play it. I ain't

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 5>stop moving yet, Joe, I got to be doing something bright.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Man, That's what I don't get.

1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 1>It makes a world of a difference when you going

1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to camp in shape already in camp.

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<v Speaker 5>Is you know, I think I think most of the

1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:13.960
<v Speaker 5>receivers come in shape anyway because they spend the off season.

1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:16.760
<v Speaker 3>They always doing something. They always doing something.

1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:19.800
<v Speaker 5>They take them a little break, they especially the lead ones,

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:22.960
<v Speaker 5>they take them a little break, you know. But about

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:25.480
<v Speaker 5>working all of them posts, they workout stuff, and half

1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:27.840
<v Speaker 5>of them work out here in Miami throughout the whole

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<v Speaker 5>the whole off season.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I pushed myself.

1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:35.120
<v Speaker 2>I need camp. I need camp to be easy. I

1:00:35.160 --> 1:00:37.600
<v Speaker 2>need camp to be a breeze. So I'm gonna push

1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:40.960
<v Speaker 2>myself in the off season. Get plenty. I'm gonna get

1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:43.920
<v Speaker 2>plenty of red. Stay hydrated. Hydration is a big thing

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 2>because you'll pull your if you got something weak or

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:50.720
<v Speaker 2>if something that's not hydrated properly, muscles not hydrated.

1:00:51.640 --> 1:00:52.720
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna tweet something.

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't always. Sometimes they'll start tingling. You're like, okay,

1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 2>let me back this thing off. I'm up for today.

1:01:00.840 --> 1:01:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Let me go get hydrated. Hey, let me get a massage.

1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Let me ice this thing for a couple of days,

1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and see why I'm at in a couple of days.

1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes that things just like, ah see, you weren't doing

1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:11.960
<v Speaker 2>what you're supposed to, so I got to get you down.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to get you down.