1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Man, welcome back all the smoke with this guy right here, 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: my guy, what episode of this We'll figure that out 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: later sometime. We got one of the young up and 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: coming rising stars in the Gang, Jalen Brown. Man. Appreciate 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: you coming through, appreciate fresh fresh off that new contract. Man, 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: how so year four and you signed a hundred fifteen 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: millions O the deal. Tell me what that's light, coming 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: from a single parent home to being pretty much financially 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: stable for the rest of your life for you and 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: your family. Tell what that's like. It's a blessing for sure, 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: just to be able to have a stability and stuff 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: like that. Just to be able to look at my 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: mom and eyes and be like, be good. Um So 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: that's a great feeling. Um. But for me, I'm still 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: just working. I'm just trying to keep going and build them. 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: You've got more d hundred million dollar contracts, have signed 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: off on anything you bought for your mom, for yourself. 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: With that first big deal, I got my mom a 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: w of course, to be honest, I didn't even get 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: myself a whip. You and I'm still trying to figure 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: out what I'm gonna get. Okay, I got I took 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: care of mom's first. I ain't really got nothing too 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: crazy for myself, to be honest. When I first got 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: to the league, my first like little flex was like 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: a piano. I got like a mini I know you now, 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: I wanted, always wanted to learn, but we couldn't afford 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: piano lessons growing up. The first my first little flex, 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: like I didn't get a car. I got like a 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: grand piano and put it in my out. I mean 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: that's a different direction, but I mean that's kind of 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: what I'm I'm learning about you. I'm a fanily your game, 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: but I'm learning like you're kind of outside the box 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: with things. You know what I mean, You're you're you're 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: very in the tech, You're very I heard you want 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: to learn several different languages. Where does your thirst for 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: education come from? I would say with the O G 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: my mom my upbringing. You know my mom, she she 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: not only she had two degrees, but she was like 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the realist person. I knew like she had to do 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: both roles. But at the same time she was in school, 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: same time, like she wrote a job, she cleaned the house, 42 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: she cooks. You did it all. So I got to 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: see um somebody being in the a dope and multiple 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: fasts and multiple roles. So it told me that just 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: because I do one thing, I mean I gotta be 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: stuck in that box forever. So your mom was your hero, 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: It sounds like yeah, for sure, A lot of people 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: don't understand, like what you learned from your mother, like 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: not having a father there, people don't understand how hard 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: it is for a mother to play that role, you 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, to keep us out of trouble 52 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: when we want to rebel and be men at a 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: young age, Like it's it's really hard. So when we 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: do make it, that's really our only goal is to 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: change our minds. Like because she paid. People don't know 56 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: the dudes and and the stuff she went through for 57 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: us to even be here, to even have a chance 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: to make it to the NBA. So I totally feel 59 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: you up because me and Mat had the same relationships 60 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: with our mom. You know what I'm saying, mad dad 61 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: was around, but my dad wasn't around. But so I know, 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, even though you got this money, it don't 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: stop because you have you have more things that you 64 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: want to do, and that that money just makes you hungry. 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: Facts and keeping crisin saw. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, my mom 66 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: she was a really thing. I know, yeah, exactly right. 67 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: So that's what's up. Yeah, So it's it's great to 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: be able to just do stuff for her and let 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: her travel and have that freedom and see that happen. 70 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Is because I remember it was days she would come 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: home from work. She's sitting in traffic in Atlanta, two 72 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: hour worth the traffic. She come home and like it's 73 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: one shoe in front of the dough. She just go crazy. 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: This is in the scence she crazy, So like, it's 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: good to see her. Now, she's smiling, she kicked back, 76 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: she traveled, so no better feeling. So y'all are off 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: to a hot start. Tell me what it's like right now. 78 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean, because you guys got an early taste. Your 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: second year, you guys go to the Eastern finals. You 80 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: guys are the talk of the league. You know, that's 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: when definitely you was on my radar. I saw you, 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I me and me being from the Bay, 83 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: I saw you a cow and I was just like, okay, 84 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: this kid could play. So third pick come in your 85 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: second year, you guys go right to the Eastern Conference finals. Um, 86 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: tell me what that's like. Um it's great. It's a blessing. 87 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't get that and 88 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: that privilege to be able to play, you know that 89 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs multiple times. Um So I take that. 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't take that for granted, and I just always 91 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: want to keep working and stuff like that. But just 92 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: finding ways to win in this league is tough. Any 93 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: time you can get to win, take it. Um I 94 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: was talked to the vests that's been on different teams 95 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: and people that has been in the league for a 96 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: long time. It'll always go like that. So I try 97 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: to listen and learn from these stories. Um So, anytime 98 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: we try to win, we try to take advantage of it. 99 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: So you guys are basically twenty four minutes from going 100 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: to the finals in your second season. Get Kyrie healthy, 101 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: get Gordon healthy. You guys are expected on paper to 102 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: be that team, and I know that that personally had 103 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: you it looked like it seemed like from the outside 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: looking in, you kind of had to take a step 105 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: back last year with the situation, and we didn't see 106 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: the jump we thought we were going to see. Obviously 107 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: we see it this year, but what walk us through 108 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: that what do you think what was the problem with that? 109 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Or that was that was a tough That was a 110 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: tough transition from me. I was about to be twenty 111 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: two years old going off coming off of a great 112 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: season in the playoffs, and um, it was kind of facilitated. 113 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't really facilitated, but it was like understanding that 114 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna be Terry was the one that I I 115 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: was gonna have to be the ones taking a step back, 116 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: and we kind of really didn't understand that, Like why 117 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: us at all? You know, people, why you know what 118 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean? But um, it worked out the way it 119 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: worked out, and and we don't you we don't want 120 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: to look back on the past too much because it 121 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: is what it is and we're looking for. But it 122 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: was tough for sure. You're coming off of a great 123 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: season young and then and it was almost like they 124 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: wanted to make it a bad thing that you wanted 125 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: more right, make you look selfish, like these young guys 126 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: they don't understand they selfish. I'm like, what we're supposed 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: to want to do, right, Like we supposed to want 128 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: to get better, we posted want to dominate the next level, 129 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: take it to the next level. But They almost made 130 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: it seem like that was a bad thing, like they're 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: being counseled. Yeah, like, but it said a lot about 132 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: you for YouTube as a young guy to be able 133 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: to take that and still perform Like me, I know 134 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: if somebody told me that at that age, I'm gonna 135 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: be in a funk, I ain't gonna play, I'm gonna 136 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: I might have attitude like you handled it like a 137 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: pro at a young age, Like I had to be 138 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: around Tim Duncan and David Robinson to learn how to 139 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: be a professional, to be a professional. For you to 140 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: for you to be able to take that at a 141 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: at a young age like that after the year you 142 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: just had, that's a testament to that says a lot 143 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: about you because a lot of young guys that's put 144 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: in that position at a young at a young age 145 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: on their career, they don't last long. Ain't a lot 146 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: to you. It was tough, ye Like. Mentally, it caused 147 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: a lot of anxieready, a lot of stress, a lot 148 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: of self being the top pick. Being a top pick. 149 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm seeing other guys in the league that's in the 150 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: positions and they're getting so it's hard not to compare 151 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: yourself and just try to stand in your own lane. 152 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: But it was tough. It caused mentally a lot of 153 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: afforded two for me to be able to look my 154 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: helf in the mirror and be like, you know, I 155 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: ain't gonna care what these people gotta say. I'm gonna 156 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: just continue to go forward no matter what the situation is. 157 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: Talk to us about that anxiety, because that's something you know, 158 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: when we first came in the league, like that mental 159 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: health wasn't discussed. And you know you've been vocal with it. 160 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Love has been vocal with that. Other guys have 161 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: been vocal with it putting that out. Did you feel 162 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: like that took a weight off your shoulders or you 163 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: had explained that to me and it didn't take a 164 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: weight off my shoulders, because I know that people still battle. 165 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: It's a battle that's still currently daily, right is going 166 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: on is daily. Everybody deals with it in some ways, 167 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: shape or form, like that that voice is telling you 168 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: might as good as you think you are or what 169 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: you're trying to do, or you're not worthy. You know, 170 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: our kids are, you know, the younger generation, they deal 171 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: with that on a daily basis. So it's just me. 172 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm just using it as a as somebody that you know, 173 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: somebody of influence that goes through it, just so maybe 174 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: they could feel a little bit more comfortable for it. 175 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: But um, for me, Um, I don't say it's like 176 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I overcame it or it's gone. It's just a daily battle. 177 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: Like it was tough because when you get put into 178 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: a situation with adversity, um, naturally you start to question 179 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: yourself and your ability. That's the first thing you do, 180 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: and your confidence, like in mine, as good as I 181 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: thought I was, as soon as you start to question yourself, 182 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: it's over. As soon as you start to not believe 183 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: in yourself. You can kissing goodbye as soon as they 184 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: get in your head, and you're gonna kill it, like 185 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: the self doubt. It's gonna kill you before anybody else 186 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: can even touch you. So for me, I had to. 187 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: That's why I had a rough start to last year 188 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: because I had it took me a minute to kind 189 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: of get out of that to kind of like, Okay, 190 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: remind myself of like what I bring to the table, 191 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Remind myself of who I am, Remind myself that I'm unique, brown, 192 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: god damnit, and I'm okay with that, certain people try 193 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: to make you feel bad and you think different, you 194 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: are different, and they try to, you know, or whatever, 195 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: make it seem like that's a bad thing. I had 196 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: to remind myself like everybody got their own unique qualities 197 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: that they bring to the able, and that's what's beautiful 198 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: with the world because everybody think differently. But most of 199 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: these people they're walking into everyday life and everything is 200 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: the same. Right you walk out, you lead a house, 201 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: and you go act like somebody else, right, you know 202 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I had to realize, like, I'm me, 203 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna walk out the door every single day 204 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: and be me, regardless of what the selfis got to say, 205 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: regardless of what the black Twitter anybody say. I just 206 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: had to do that, and that's what helped me really 207 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: get up out of that. How did you so to 208 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: just really just being able to block all that stuff out, 209 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: Because I mean, people don't understand the NBA is mental. 210 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: You mean, skill is everyone in the league has skill, 211 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: But it's your mental approach and how important your mental 212 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: approach is to your not only your game, but your 213 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: day to day life because normally, when you're not playing well, 214 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: you're off the court, life is kind of dragging too, 215 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: because you know you're here to do this, and like 216 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: you said, there's social media, there's hecklers, there's haters, Like 217 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: how were you able at such a young age to 218 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: block all that out? Did you have help or this 219 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: is something you just talked yourself through. Um my grandpa, 220 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: to be honest, he gave me a book and it 221 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: really helped. It was like on astrology and stuff, and 222 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: it kind of helped me like rediscovered like who I 223 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: was and stuff. But everybody has their own process and 224 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: their own whatever. So UM for me, that was what 225 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: helped me, you know, trying to like figure out like 226 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: what I made of and like what I bring to 227 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: the table. And that made me more confident in myself. 228 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: So when I stepped out in front of people, it 229 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: was nothing they could really tell me. That what really 230 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: bothered me because I was already known when I was 231 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: born with when I came into this world with so um, 232 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: that helped me a lot, my grandpa and stuff like that. 233 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: But everybody has, you know, their own process and things 234 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: like that. But I challenge people to look theirselves in 235 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: the mirror and mind and stuff unique. They are when 236 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: they walk out. Everybody, that's the that's a beautiful part 237 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: of the world. God made each and every one of 238 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: us different, with different qualities, right, So sometimes we forget 239 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: because we go into a world where everybody just want 240 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: to be the same and listened to the same music. 241 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: We're the same clothes, talked to the same girls, like 242 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: all the same stuff, and repeat recycles. So I challenge 243 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: more people to just be different, especially kids. I don't 244 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: know who's gonna be watching this, but especially the young ones, 245 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, because they're the next generation. They're gonna be 246 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: the ones paving the way out. Challenging just be yourself. 247 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: It's hard as hell to look yourself in the mirror 248 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: and hold yourself accountable. You can lie to everybody else, 249 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: but you can't lie to yourself, you know what I'm saying. 250 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: When you're able to look at yourself in the mirror 251 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: and be honest with yourself and not a lot of yourself, 252 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: it's easier to deal with the ship outside. It's it's 253 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: totally because you're not lying to yourself. That's a fact. 254 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: That is fact, and that and that takes au That 255 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: takes a lot to be able to do that. And 256 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: like I had to look myself in the mirror and 257 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: be like, what can I do better and how can 258 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: I make the best? Are you doing something wrong? You're 259 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: not doing nothing. You wasn't doing nothing wrong. You know 260 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: you you got drafted number three ship. I'm supposed to 261 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: be a star on this team. I'm supposed to be 262 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: playing you as I did. This year, we take a 263 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: huge step back. I just really have a you know, 264 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: I really have to commence you. Like I said, at 265 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: a young age, you had a lot, and I think 266 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: it's only going to make you better in the long rue. 267 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: But the way you've handled it and the way you've 268 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: bounced back and the way you're back playing this year, uh, 269 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: you know you're you're You're back with that edge and 270 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: that attack and dunking on motherfucker's and doing what you 271 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: need to do. He's a right leg to leg too, stupid, 272 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: stupid bound, But we do it. What's what's the difference 273 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: between you guys? Like I said on paper, you guys 274 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: were amazing last year. It just didn't work between the 275 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: energy last year in that locker room, in the chemistry 276 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: with the chemistry and energy this year with you guys 277 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: team it's a whole new team, whole new year, whole 278 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: new everything changed. That's a part of the why I 279 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: cut my hair and just a new season. Let her 280 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: everything in the past go, just try to build for 281 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: a new a new frontier. But the whole energy is changed. 282 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Like last year, it was like kind of like everybody 283 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: was competing and we had something. We had a lot 284 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: of dogs in that in that locker room that felt 285 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: like they was that god, you know what I mean, 286 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: And rightfully so like I respect that because it creates 287 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: an environment like our practices was crazy. Yeah, running at 288 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: Kyrie and Jason going at it like it was. It 289 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: was crazy, like some if people from my perspective, because 290 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: it was a good basketball environment from like people just 291 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: trying to get better. But when it came to being 292 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: five on the court, that's when it died. It was difficult. 293 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: You guys on the islands, it almost looked like a 294 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: time because we can't you can't play everybody in the 295 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Brad can't play everybody. We can't play everybody 296 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: you know to start the game. So it was just like, um, 297 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that just drew traction between that 298 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: and and and it was like shared it should have 299 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: been shared, you know, equally between players, front office, coaching staff, 300 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: instead of just being like it was all the players fault. 301 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: They couldn't figure it out. It was It should have 302 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: been more of a conglomerate because it was. It was everything. 303 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: It's a team problem, it's an organizational problem. It's not 304 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: just a player problem. It was tough for Brad to 305 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: be able to figure that out well, though he hounded 306 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: it made it look easy from now, it'side looking in 307 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: you know what. I meant a lot of respect for Brad. 308 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: He handled it in a sense where he didn't like 309 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: belittle nobody, just like in other coaches might not have 310 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: did that. He didn't really strip my confidence completely and 311 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: just say like, you know what, this is not what 312 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna do, and this is not what you're gonna do. 313 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: He kind of just let everything kind of like fizzle out. 314 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: And so Brad, I feel like I did a great 315 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: job last year. And I know he is talking about 316 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: it because he's so focused on this year, and so 317 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: am I because we've got a long season ahead of us. 318 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: But sometimes it's good to acknowledge the past so we 319 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: can just move over. I was someone who said early 320 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: on when I saw your core, you, Kimba being new 321 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: and Marcut smart playing on the USA team. Regardless of 322 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: it didn't really go the way you plan. I just 323 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: I knew that experience and representing your country was going 324 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: to carry over to this season with chemistry, with confidence. 325 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: You got a chance to play with Kimba early. Tell 326 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: me what that experience was like. And then having Kimba 327 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: not only as a USA team but now your point guard. 328 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: It was great. Like when you when you outside the 329 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: country and you like you know, you're not away, you're 330 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: away from your family, you're away from your friends, and 331 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: it's just you and your teammates. You're gonna learn stuff 332 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: about each other that some stuff you don't even one 333 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: of them true, and stuff I'm learning about something I 334 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: already even wanted them, right, But you're gonna learn stuff 335 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: about people, and it's gonna make you, you know, respect 336 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: the more. It's gonna make you get closer to him, 337 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: and it's gonna make you build that chemistry that we 338 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: needed going into the season. So we spent a lot 339 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: of time with each other, and like in China, we 340 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: us in China for about three and a half weeks 341 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: playing video games, talking playing cars, chopping it up, like 342 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: I know stuff about some of these guys that I 343 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: played with them for three years and didn't know. Yeah, 344 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: well that's what we always said, you know. I mean, 345 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: we had an amazing chemistry with that we believe team. 346 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: But it was because I think we funked with each 347 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: other so tough off the court and got to know 348 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: each other off the court and likes and dislikes, and 349 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: got to meet each other's families and really became friends 350 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: and brothers off the court. And then all that obviously 351 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: translates on the court. So you found that obviously to 352 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: be the same. Yeah, especially like we're playing against you know, 353 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: teams that it's coming for your coming for our head, 354 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: like like we're playing against Serbia, We're playing against you know, Greece, 355 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: You're playing against teams countries at France that don't really 356 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: like the Yes, so like nobody likes the US when 357 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: it comes to basketball. We've always been so good and 358 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: you could feel it, so it makes you come together. 359 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: So it's like, man, we're not about to let these dudes, 360 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we can exactly, And and 361 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: everything happened for a reason and didn't work out the 362 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: way we wanted it to, and we still kind of 363 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: decipher what that reason it's gonna be. But you know, 364 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't never question his plan, So we'll see what 365 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: comes of it. How close are you would Tatum, you 366 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: guys both being back to back third picks coming to 367 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: historical franchise like the Celtics. Was he someone that you 368 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: bonded with early on? Um? Yeah, Like I think when 369 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: me and Tatum came in, we had similar situations, but 370 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: we kind of like polar offices in a sense, Like 371 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: Tatum is like even in our game, like I'm more aggressive, 372 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: taking more later, you know what I mean. Like, and 373 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of our personalities is like I'm more probably 374 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: he'll probably I'm a little outside of the box and 375 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: he's probably a little bit more how cutting and simply 376 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: just keep it simple, yeah, you know what I mean? 377 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: So we we in a weird way. It kind of 378 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: like works works because we lack with each other has, 379 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So in a weird way, 380 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: we got like an understanding like if each other respect 381 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: for each other. Our families is close, like my my 382 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: brother like babysit is like, uh, his son and stuff. 383 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: That's right, Um, so we've been special light skin brother exactly. 384 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: We're different, we got different mindsets, but at the same time, 385 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: like I think we respect each other. That can be 386 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: great together for a long time too, bro, I think 387 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: I think in the back of the mind, y'all know 388 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: that too. If y'all can stay together for a long time, 389 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: y'all can be joining pipping all over again. That's dope. 390 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: So what is it like? Tell me what it's like 391 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: playing for historical franchise like Boston. Um, Boston, Uh, it's 392 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: a great city, of course, definitely, Um, definitely something that 393 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: when I came into I had no idea about. Like, 394 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: nobody in my family is itself was a Celtics fan. Um, 395 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: nobody was particularly fond that the Celtics. When I got 396 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: a country boy, you grew up a Hawks fan, I 397 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: would say. I grew up a Hawks fan. N the Falcons, 398 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: you know, I support the home in the city, I 399 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: would say that. So like with my family, like when 400 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: I got there and nobody was there, people had questions 401 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: you know about Boston, the area, the people. People was 402 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: like suspicious about how do people treat you know, people 403 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: of color, No questions and stuff like that. So it 404 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: was a little bit, you know. Um, people was a 405 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: little bit in different. My family, dadum ideas in the 406 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: head about what how Boston was. And as I've been there, 407 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: I've seen some of those ideas, and I've seen how 408 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: the city has progressed in the last four years and 409 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: how eclectic it is. Um, the city of Boston is. 410 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Outside cities are a little bit you know, needs some work, 411 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: um for sure, because you see how like it's still 412 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: like a little bit separate outside. But the city of Boston, 413 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: I think everybody comes together in the city and um 414 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: works together, makes money together, watches the Celtics games and 415 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: the Bruins and all that. Everybody come together like in 416 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: the city. But outside the city it's a little bit 417 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. But I've definitely been able 418 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: to see like the city of Boston grow and being 419 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: able to be a part of it. I mean, I'm 420 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: in there for four years. I'm a part of the 421 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: community now, you know. So it's not just it's on 422 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: me too, you know what i mean. So I'm trying 423 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: to figure out ways to bring the community together. I 424 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: did a gala this year, you know, showing some love 425 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: to places in the community that don't get the amount 426 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: of love they deserve. So I'm trying to find ways 427 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: to bring the community more and more together because I've 428 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: been there for four years and hopefully I'll be there 429 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: for four more. Um, so I'm trying to do something 430 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: to to add to be a part of the solution. 431 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: You used to the snow, like, I don't think I've 432 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: ever man, maybe be like I'm in my rookie year. 433 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: Uh we had a game. I opened the door and 434 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: like literally the snow fell off the roof, like I 435 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: couldn't see out the door. So I'm thinking, like, okay, cool, 436 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: game cancel. I'm like, game cancel. We're good. I'm about 437 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: to go back to sleep. It was like then Lynch, 438 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: he hit hits like big time to shovel out the snow. 439 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: To make sure you get to the game one time, 440 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: leave an hour early. So I'm like, yo, I really 441 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: gotta play in this. Yes, yes, I had to leave 442 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: an hour early for the game, so it took me 443 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: two hours to get there and then I had to 444 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: shovel myself out of the snow like literally we're used 445 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: to that. I was like this. I was like this 446 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: ain't it, man, This ain't it. You're someone that's big 447 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: on social media and having your own platform, your own voice, 448 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: you have your own YouTube channel to kind of give 449 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: people a look at what you do. Talk to me 450 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about that. UM. For me, it was 451 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: just trying to show people the human side. I think 452 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: a lot of times they put athletes on the pedestal 453 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: alongside with the mental help segment. UM, Like, we're humans too, 454 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: like we um some of my father's brothers, you know, UM, friends, 455 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, etcetera. So just showing that side to people 456 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: more and this in this generation, it's cool to be 457 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: a part of it because you see how like that 458 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: is changing, Like the whole shut up in dribble movement, UM, 459 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: it's changed. We got athletes who are rappers like Dan 460 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: Goodwin's too. We've got athletes who are you know, designers 461 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: with closed like Russell Westbrook, Politicians Harrison Barnes, venture capitalists 462 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: VC entrepreneurs sitting right here, you know what I mean. 463 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: We got the game has changed, and I appreciate the 464 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: ogs that came before UM to help change it. So 465 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: it's only like the younger generation to care taking it 466 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: to another level. So it's been cool to be a 467 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: part of it and that change because I don't feel 468 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: so stuck in the box as if I probably would 469 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: have felt ten fifteen years ago, Like if you try 470 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: to do anything else out of basketball, people maybe would 471 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: get you crazy. If it's teen years ago. Now they 472 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: might look at you crazy still, but now it's kind 473 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: of like understood. Like that basketball it's more too it 474 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: than just just a platform. It just opens doors. To me, 475 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: it just opened a lot of doors, you know what 476 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean? It was it was to me. I played 477 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: fourteen years on a handful of different teams, but that 478 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: was just the beginning. You know. I was able to 479 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: get into anywhere I wanted to beget because of that. 480 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: You know, it means so to be able to capitalize 481 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: that off the next step. It's good that you're still 482 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: young in the game and realizing that because, like you said, 483 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: we didn't have it, you know, when we first came 484 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: in the league, you know, a kid, we were at 485 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: the beginning of the social media are you know. So 486 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: I think it's great that you are capitalizing and having 487 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: an understanding of how big your platform is and how 488 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: many kids Like you said, kid, you seem like you're 489 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: real big on educating the next generation, you know what 490 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: I mean, and to be able to understand that it 491 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: is your job to carry the torch. I feel like 492 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: the world is changing. I think, in my opinion, the 493 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: world is changing. I think like um, some of the 494 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: big social constructs we used to lean on, UM is 495 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: they finding ways to become smaller and more efficient because 496 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: like UM, to be honest, UM, it's a million different 497 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: ways to make money. It's a million different ways to 498 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: cut a chicken. And who would have thought, you know, 499 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: ten years from now or twenty years from now or 500 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: twenty years from then that who would have thought that 501 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: you can make money just sitting in front of a 502 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: camera and just talking talking bullshite talking. Who would have thought? 503 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: Like posting on Instagram, you people, it's people making millions 504 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: of it's people making m's just about posting on Instagram, 505 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: Like who is a lot of ways to get it. 506 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy that that that's where the world is 507 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 1: now because like before, like Suit and Todd was like 508 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: the consider like the format of how it's being professional. 509 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Now you wouldn't be taking serious if you weren't dressed 510 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: in the super time at one point, Yeah exactly, Now 511 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: people got red, blue, yellow, green hair and just tattoos. 512 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: And we can go at any meeting right any office 513 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: and talk to anybody and know what we're talking about. 514 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: Smoke all before and and lightening up. Why are we talking? 515 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: And still get you? Still get the deal done? Not 516 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: all the time. I can't on this show one day, hopefully, 517 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: hopefully I can't wait. You're real big in technology. Obviously 518 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: you spoke to M I T. Media Lab the Harvard 519 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: Business Education School. Tell me what you know. You gotta 520 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: come on now, you gotta break all those abbreviations and 521 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: stuff down. We're talking about school now. This is not 522 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: my this is not my strong suit. Break it down 523 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: for me, please, Massachusetts Institution of Technology. Okay, we go 524 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: in my TA right there. You know you didn't heard 525 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: the M T. You heard. You just never knew what stuff. 526 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: I never knew what it the only time my institute institute. 527 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: I think institutions. I don't want to be a dad, 528 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: but talk to me a little bit about you know 529 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: your your fascination with tech and uh where that came from? 530 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: Technology is the world man, technology. I always try to 531 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: be a part of it, just to see where technology 532 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: is going. Um, just y'all, far As came, um and 533 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: stuff like that, just being a part of it. So 534 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: I try to stay tuned in and see what's coming 535 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: them next. When I was like Cale, meantors do Eric Moore, 536 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: he was a VC. He had his own venture capitalist firm, 537 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: so like, UM, I knew I wanted to do something. 538 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: When I went out to Colt that's where I put 539 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: myself in that position. UM. So I just kept hitting 540 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: them up and he was like at first he was like, um, now, 541 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: didn't take me serious. And I just kept hitting them 542 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: up and he allowed me to come and do an 543 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: intern at his VC firm, and he started showing me 544 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: stuff and um, teaching me things that I didn't know 545 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: previously about money, about how you know, the rich people 546 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: make money and how the rich stay rich, and how 547 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: um some of these companies you know, orchestrating things like that. 548 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: So I got to see at eighteen or nineteen a 549 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: bunch of different companies that were being ran successfully, and 550 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: some of them were the same age as me. Some 551 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: of these people were two dropped out of college, started 552 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: their own company, was making two three million dollars in revenue, 553 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: and nobody was bad in the eye. But when I 554 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: was coming out it was a whole conversation. I remember, 555 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to call out the interviewer or the 556 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: analysts or whatever. Saying one and done was like a 557 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: bad thing. So I looked at it the same event, like, Okay, 558 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: I got an idea, right, um, ideas, I'm going to 559 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: the league. My body is my company. Why is it 560 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: a bad thing that I'm um putting myself in a 561 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: position to make a lot of money at the early age, 562 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: rather than staying in school, which is only gonna perpetuate 563 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: me going to work for somebody else eventually and having 564 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: a bunch of student loan debts or whatever, or Sally 565 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: May's getting hurt or something. It's just a hamster world 566 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: they try to put you on. So for me, when 567 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: I got to see that, I really got to see 568 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: how the world work, and I really got to see 569 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: how the similarities between you know, companies and basketball and 570 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: the business and basketball start working. I wish I had 571 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: somebody like that when I was crazy, right, tell you 572 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: I was. I can't only want to tell you I 573 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: was getting my info from an eight team and my 574 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: advice for m oh lord dude named Spooney G and 575 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: the dude named John Johnson and Mike d and All 576 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: was talking man. Spoony G was wenting for Scotch and 577 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: the Huntred gree Weather on the block pocket for the 578 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: cash with beside was a hunting ten degrees. I got 579 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: all my advice from him. You turned out, You turned 580 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 1: out fine. Yeah, but you see what was taking a minute? Though? 581 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: One point seventh great average. When I graduated one point seven, 582 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how they they let me walk out 583 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: of there. I graduated doog goddamnit. Shout out do Kia 584 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: for past taking my class, spoony G. Shout out the 585 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: spoon You met spoony You met Spoody in the playoffs? Well, 586 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: that's the one that was talking about podcasts. Yes, that 587 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: was one of the realest conversations I ever had in 588 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: my life. It was in Dallas and he broke down 589 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: with Popman by standing at the world through my rear 590 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: view mirror, and he said Park was rooting for us, 591 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: and we went and won that series. Shout out spoon, 592 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: shoutout spoon G. How can advancing tech be helpful for 593 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: the NBA? Uh? I think it's been helpful for the 594 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: NBA already. I think as you've seen as a technology 595 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: with TVs and cameras and social media, the game has 596 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: become bigger. Like, um, it's reaching different places that normally, 597 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't have reached its global now and 598 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: the game is everywhere. I've traveled places just off you know, 599 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: the merit of my brand through the NBA, and like 600 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: people would be pulling up to like my hotel just 601 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: to see me or shake my hand. So like I'm 602 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: in Egypt, I'm in places that you ain't even think 603 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: and there's people pulling up just because the brand in 604 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: the NBA has gotten so big, right, So, um, I 605 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: think the technology is a continue saying hands, um, it's 606 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: the NBA state's partner where it is going to continue 607 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: to make the game bigger, bigger and bigger. You're a 608 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: fashion guy to talk about that a little bit. You're 609 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: a big fashion guy too. Yeah, man, I've been going 610 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm in that fashion week, uh for the last two years, 611 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: just really being a fly on the wall. I'll tell 612 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: y'all a quick story. I never told anybody this. Come on, 613 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: all of some my baby, give it to us. It's 614 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: a quick story. Right. So I'm a fast wing. I 615 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: got invited to a few different shows. My first year, 616 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: I went to a lot. Actually I went to like ten, 617 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: I went to Valentino, I went to um Rap Simmons, 618 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: I went to Off Wide. I went to a bunch 619 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: of different shows. But the big one two years ago 620 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 1: was what the LV one with Virgil. I didn't get 621 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: invited to that one, right, So I ain't get invited 622 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: to that one. But I want to tripping, you know 623 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm at the time, I'm the second 624 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: year in the league and I ain't got my my 625 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: merrit ain't like that. I ain't got the cloud. But 626 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't miss that. It's been like they 627 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: ain't never had a person of color being a Louis 628 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: v designer ever like this history. So I'm like, I 629 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: don't got no ticket, but I'm gonna pull up and 630 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: just see what's gonna happen. Like the least I could 631 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: do is say I tried, right, all right, that's typing. 632 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm from Atlantis, So yeah, we're gonna try. So I 633 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: have photographers with me, and I have videographers and that 634 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: manages with me and stuff like that. So I had 635 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: like a little group of people with me. So I said, 636 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: this will be gonna do. I said, we're gonna get 637 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: in the car and we're gonna pull up real fast, 638 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: come to a stop real quick. Everybody jump out. Make 639 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: it looked like the president put it up. Everybody jump 640 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: out quick. When we jump out, everybody opened the door, 641 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: slamming open the driver. You gotta slam on the brakes. 642 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Everybody jump out, slammed the door open. We're gonna walk fast. 643 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: No pictures, no pictures, no pictures. We go keep walking through. 644 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna walk. So everybody like causing the commotion, all 645 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: the people trying to tell the pictures, like who is 646 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: it la? We get to the front, I said, when 647 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: we get to the front, it's probably gonna be a 648 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: list like Italian job. Look, it's probably gonna be a list. 649 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing out. So I told my manager. 650 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: I told it. I was like, we get to the mount. 651 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: When they say, when they say they can't see they 652 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: can't find my name on the list, I need you 653 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: to go crazy. Look, don't even I didn't even think. 654 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: I didn't even think she was gonna be like ready 655 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: for like, I'm surprised, a little small, like I don't 656 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: even think she was gonna be ready for like when 657 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: you see the list, just go crazy like act like 658 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: this is an outrage. She said, yeah, she sold it better. 659 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm she surprised me. So we get to the list 660 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: just like we're not this is this is crazy. He 661 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: should be on this list. They're like, okay, they come down, 662 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: come down, come down, come there, come down, come down. 663 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Just let him go in. And I ended up going 664 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: in and I end up like sitting like right next 665 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: to Kanye and Travis. Oh that's crazy, Like it's crazy, right. 666 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: And I ended up meeting Diddy sons uh in there 667 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: just seeing him and say hey, what up and just 668 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: walked in with them from the jump and just finess 669 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: my whole way into like I gotta at number one. 670 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: You gotta act like you belong. Yeah, good, finess my 671 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: whole white Look that's I'm sitting right next to Kanye, Travis. 672 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm sitting dead across from Rihanna. When the show was over, 673 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: Virgil came out and gave Kanye hug. At the end, 674 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: he was crying and I was I was like, man 675 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: if I was in my right, but I go out 676 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: there just that moment he said getting in the huge 677 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: like Mary, Yeah, felt it man, it was a special moment. 678 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: But you from Atlanta, the home of for nessance straight 679 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: in there cooling it. That's right, and you're being good. 680 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: Ever since people were playing basketball, would you be doing? 681 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I get that question a lot, 682 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't know. Right now. I'm so 683 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: locked in on ball. I can't even see nothing match 684 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: right now. I just feel good to just be able 685 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: to play and play free hobbies. Hobbies. I got a 686 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: lot of hobbies. Man, Uh, what's one? Um? I guess 687 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: I like I like designing, So I'm starting my own, 688 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: my own brand. So so the clothing clothing brands before 689 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: Jack Bag well just sent us because well, no, don't. 690 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna do my bag and late I wasn't 691 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: gonna get a I got. I gotta have a big 692 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: in segment. That's what we called. Yeah, and it's gonna 693 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: have to be at the end. Okay, alright, we're gonna 694 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: save that we don't do some exchanges exactly. I got. 695 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: I got a little note that I wrote for you 696 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: to say and take them, you know, the new George Gay. 697 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: But I got Yeah, I like it. So I got 698 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: a little sketch book and i'd be drawing stuff. I'll 699 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: put a set together. I love music. It's like a 700 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: past time. I don't I'm not trying to be a rapper. 701 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to do nothing with it. But I 702 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: love being in the studio listening to music. It's just 703 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: it's a good past We're gonna start making beats. Somewhat. 704 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna s I did. I used to. Yeah, I'm 705 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: retiring now yea, Yeah, I'm gonna just put all my 706 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: eggs in one basket. But I still like having hobbies 707 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: and stuff to keep myself out of trouble. What's the 708 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: biggest lesson you've learned up to this point in your career? 709 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: And you seem very mature for being a you know, 710 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: for your pro but what what's the biggest lesson to 711 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: learn us far? Basketball wise? Confidence? Everything? People understood that though, 712 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: because there's something to me. You hear people say, oh, 713 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: he can't play the thirteen Twitter, it's all about comes 714 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: because everybody could play, you know. I mean, so the 715 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: second I saw something, you mean, you don't believe in yourself, 716 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: it's a rap, you know, it's a confidence And being 717 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: on that same page with the coach and on that 718 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: the coach has confidence. She does wonders for everybody. Yeah, exactly, 719 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: and uh because if as soon as you once they're 720 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: get into your head and then get into your mind, 721 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: like I've seen a lot of people, you know, their 722 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: spirits broken and it's broken forever and don't find a 723 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: way back from it. Like and I felt like that 724 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: was like where they was trying to send me, and 725 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: I was like, that ain't gonna happen to me. So 726 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: I had to remind myself to be confident in myself 727 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: and and find ways to to find that extra confidence. 728 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: And that was good to circle to circle back. You 729 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: get that from your mom. I know a lot of 730 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: times when I didn't believe myself, when I got cut 731 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: from teams and I broke my foot. Could nobody get 732 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,479 Speaker 1: me back to believe in myself but my mom fact 733 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that's something she taught 734 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: me as a youngster. So I know for you, the 735 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: baby to turn that switch on, your mom got something 736 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: to do it that, because that's when we get all 737 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: our confidence. I'll know him are writing wrongs, what to 738 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: do or not that we get all that from my mom. 739 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: That's a fact. I saw you working out with Team 740 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: Mac because he's someone that you modeled your game after us. 741 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: He's who did you look up to coming into the NBA? 742 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: T Mac? That was it? Tea Mac? Was was it 743 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: great person to look after? Yeah? I loved this game. 744 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: It's cross over, step back to fact everything, you know 745 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: what I mean? Te Max game, Like that's the one 746 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: when I went outside. Like first it was like when 747 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: I when I went outside, it was in the driveway 748 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: and you pretending like you somebody when your little kid. 749 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: For me, it was it was always Team Mac. Then 750 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: the next it was Kobe, and it was d Wade 751 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But think about that, Tatums is Kobe, 752 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: you mean it's his Team Mac. Oh, so what do 753 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: you ask? I mean, you guys see like obviously you 754 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: have enough to win the championship this year. Is that's 755 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: the goal, right? I mean it's championship or bus usually 756 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: for franchises like the Celtics. So you know, you guys 757 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: are taking the game and you know game the time. 758 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: But I mean that's always a goal. I think every 759 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: player that's what they want to do at least one 760 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: time in their career. For me, I'm just like I'm 761 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: not trying to put no expectations on this year. I'm 762 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: just trying to hoot. You know what the goal is. Yeah, 763 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: we know what the goal is. But I don't like 764 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: they the media want uh most of the media and 765 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: the Celtics media, they want you to get You said 766 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this and do that. Now they got 767 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: us on that last year. That's what kind of messes up. Yeah, 768 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: derailed this because everybody got so much pressure on them. 769 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: To be honest, we don't need the pressure on this group. 770 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: Like we're good. We got a lot of young players, 771 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of talent um, and we got 772 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people feeling roles that that 773 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: need to be filling. And we got a lot of 774 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: players playing well. Brad want to make her, Robert Williams, 775 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: Javonte Green, Grant Williams, um Um, everybody man, Carson Edwards. 776 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: Our young guys is playing phenomenal. Tse, Daniel t S, 777 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: Vincent poor Year, a lot of young guys that you're 778 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: prightly don't even know their names, but they've been helping 779 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: us out and getting these wins. Yeah, you just thinking 780 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: about six ain't heard of They've been helping us get 781 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: these ones. Who are the who are the vocal leaders 782 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: in the locker room, the vocal ones? Uh, I have 783 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: a alt. I was that guy was when Alice spoke, 784 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: everybody everybody chief, I was like, you know what, ain't 785 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: know how that ain't no bullshit. You know what I'm saying. 786 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: When he speaks, it means something facts al When Alice spoke, 787 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: it definitely meant something for me for sure, Like if 788 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: al told me to do something, I'm doing it because 789 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: like not only did what he said, what he did 790 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: what he always told us that he was doing. Like 791 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: he was that example, Like he walked in his and 792 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: he's like like Alice and him come to work every day, 793 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: work you no matter what the situation was. He had 794 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: the right attitude, the right mentality. Despite so like if 795 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: I had to follow anybody's character, that's what I was 796 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: leaning towards more than anybody, just because I've seen he 797 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: was an example every single day or that, you know 798 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's hard to to to follow somebody 799 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: if they're not is consistent, even though they might be 800 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: a leader in a different merit, but they attitude inconsistent, 801 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So al was that person 802 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: for me, no question. He liked to him. He had 803 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: to even kill all the time, all the time off 804 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: subject with basketball. What do you are you in there? Shows? 805 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: What are you watching right now? Uh? Snowfall was hottest 806 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: thing y'all. Man, Please tell me, drive motherfucker? Is that 807 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: Samuel little Jackson? No, that was that was frankly safe. 808 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: So every time you argue, every time you beating him, 809 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: we knew. Remember that saying you think I'm gonna blow 810 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: all the ship that I built just because you don't 811 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: like the way I nigga talk. Drive motherfucker. That was 812 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: killing scene right up. And you just killed that right there. 813 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: That he want to be an actor, He got me, 814 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: he got I'm coming. I want to be I'm gonna 815 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: put him in one of my things, so we're gonna 816 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: get in. But that was good times. That scene was 817 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: hard for something. Sometimes your homie, you can't necessarily have 818 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: talked to your homie like you told that. He told 819 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: his homie the best friend. Look, that's what that's what 820 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: it was solid. He held his board, his up board, 821 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: his boy down when he went to talk to Yeah, 822 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: he didn't up, he didn't embarrassing fact. As soon as 823 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: he got away from He had to check him for 824 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: the betterment of the business. For that street ship. Man, 825 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: that street ship, you can take that and use in 826 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: any business they're doing. Man, snowfalls the ship. I'm glad 827 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: you said that. You got me hype. I didn't woke 828 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: up snowfall. It's another season coming, almost that snowfall beginning. 829 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: I'd have been jumping all around this motherfucker. Man, it's 830 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: another season coming. Yeah, gotta be you gotta be right. 831 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: When how it ended, yeah, you know what I mean. 832 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: But if it went back, nobody put a date on it. 833 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: Though didn't nobody put a date on it. But it's 834 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: good that we know. Franklin st knew that the d 835 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: A guy was was working on him all this time, 836 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: the whole time. I've got stomach, ain't seen you. I'm 837 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: looking for a new show to get on. That's wonderful. 838 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: Anything about selling dope and all that, I'm into it. 839 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: Gangster ship, that's my lane, ain't But it was different. 840 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: It was like how they infiltrated the with the hood 841 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: with the dope, like you have no plane, land, no good, 842 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: none of that, none of that. The government was dropping 843 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: that they went to school and found him Yeah, they 844 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: recruited him, right, you recruit me ship. That's crazy you 845 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: think about using that to fund elections, wars, all types 846 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: of stuff illegally, you know what I mean. And they're 847 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: looking at us like we were from the street to 848 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: because we're doing drugs and we're having violence in our 849 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: neighborhood and with the liquor store in this corner and 850 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: we're not supposed to drink or it's guns and cracking 851 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: cocaine in the neighborhood. And we didn't posted you nothing 852 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: about it. We didn't putting none of that. They came. 853 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: It's official. They dropped it off. Snowfall is the perfect show, 854 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: mad when we mastered it, Yeah, and then we were 855 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: selling it to man, we mastered bring me something. I'm 856 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna cook it up and sounding better than you cut it. 857 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: Whatever you need me to do, I'm gonna figure that stack. 858 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: You gotta watch I get excited about that. I'm we're 859 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: gonna end on this. Throughout this interview, you've really talked 860 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: about educating and about the next generation. If you could 861 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: tell them one word, one sentence, what would it be 862 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: to the youth of oh Man, one sentence? That's hard man, 863 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna go first. One? Now, one, what's the question. 864 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: Didn't just hear me? You still think about snowballs. I'm 865 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm in character right now, Frank the Saint like I'm 866 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, man boy, I'm thinking. I'm thinking the whole 867 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: movie right now. Why she had to do the crack. 868 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: She had a good thing. So if you had to 869 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: encourage the youth with one word or a sentence, what 870 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: would that be? Word? Our sentence? Either nothing be to failure, 871 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: but to try. You never know if you're gonna succeed. 872 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: If you don't try, you're gonna sunk up a little 873 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: like that, nothing be to failure but to try. Because 874 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: I think we live in a day and age where 875 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: people are scared to do chase their dreams. So they 876 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: want to talk about our dreams. Scared to fail, right, 877 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: scared to fail, and I ain't gonna lie. That's one 878 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: of That's probably one of my biggest fails. I mean, 879 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: my biggest um beers beer. Was always scared of failure, 880 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: like falling short. So that's something that's real, you know 881 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. And actuality, we're good. You know what 882 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm good. And if you believe in yourself, I actually 883 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: got This call from Marcus Smarty was like pressure come 884 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: from and when you don't know what you're doing, Like 885 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,439 Speaker 1: if you put the work in, you put the time 886 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: and effort them, you should be confident in that and 887 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: you shouldn't question it and failure when you can be options, 888 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: you know. So that's one thing that I would agree on. Like, 889 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: it's a lot of young people that are scared of 890 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: failure and they don't know how to necessarily go about it. 891 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: They get nervous and something they resort to other things 892 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: that they try to fill those gaps with and sometimes 893 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: it's not the best way. And it's up to us 894 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: to let them know that before they walk out that house. 895 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: They have everything in them. They need to be successful, 896 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: everything in them already. You know what I'm saying this 897 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: for us to use our platform and let the younger 898 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: generation know that I agree. Appreciate you, man, Thank you 899 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: for your time, alright, appreciate appreciate already. That's a wrap, man, 900 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: all the smoke, Thank my guy, Jack, Jason Brown. You 901 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: can find us on Showtime, YouTube, Basketball are all platforms, streaming, podcast. 902 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next time. M h m hmmm mm 903 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: hm m hm m h.