1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress. Hello friends, 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Today we are joined by a trailblazer. Jenny Kavnar is 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: an American sports broadcaster who is the television play by 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: play announcer of the Oakland Athletics of Major League Baseball. Guys, 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: She's the first female primary play by play announcer in 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: MLB history. She is an absolute legend. She grew up 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: in a baseball family, and she just is so incredibly inspiring. 8 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: She is joining us today. 9 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: From her home in Colorado, where she is managing to 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: juggle her MLB career, a family, young children, and a great, big, 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: beautiful life. Let's get to it, Jenny, I'm so excited 12 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: that you're here today. I as you know, I think 13 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: you know. We're both such lovers of sport, and seeing 14 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the way that women are really changing the game, not 15 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: just in women's sports, but in the sports industry in 16 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: general right now is so inspiring. And so to have you, 17 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: as a literal trailblazer in the space join us during 18 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: Women's History Month feels very cool. Thank you for taking 19 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: the time. 20 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, thank you for having me. 21 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, I'm so excited about women 22 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: in sports right now and what is happening. And I 23 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: think like two words sums it up for me, and 24 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: it's Caitlyn Clark. 25 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Right. If you're not on the Caitlyn Lark train, like you. 26 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: Just better jump on because she has just taken everything 27 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: to a whole new level. And it's so cool to 28 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: see the history that she's made and what she's done. 29 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: And then you know, being part of this conversation of 30 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: women and advancement in sports, it's like I pinched me 31 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: because this is all happening and it's so exciting. 32 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 33 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: Well, and your love of sport takes you all the 34 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: way back to childhood, right. 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, from day one. 36 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: I mean I was definitely born into a family, the 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 3: big sports family. My dad was a long time high 38 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: school baseball coach, so my earliest memories of sports were 39 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: really at the field when he was coaching, and as 40 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: a cheerleader and kind of realizing quickly that, like you know, 41 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: a win or a loss can dictate a mood, and 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: my dad was always so good about not really bringing 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: that home, but you know, you learn to ride that 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: roller coaster of being a fan and the emotions that 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: go along with sports, and then you know, as I 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: got older, clearly wanted to participate. I'm not much of 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: a just sit and watch kind of gal, so grabbed 48 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: a love was often out on the field, you know, 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: whether it was his summer camps or even like you know, 50 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: working the table where the parents come in and taking 51 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: money or going to the snackshack and working, like just 52 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: being involved. 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: It was. 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: It was definitely our family business was high school baseball, 55 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: and we were all kind of all in. And then 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: I think as soon as I picked up a glove 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: and I picked up a basketball and all those things, 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: like I just remember that innate need to be competitive, 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: and then nate drive to like want to be on 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: the court, and you want to be on a field, 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: want to be doing something sports related. 62 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think from the very beginning, it's always 63 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: been there. That's really cool. 64 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: When you were little, Like if you think about, you know, 65 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: little Jenny at eight or nine, were you really focused 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: on sports at that time or was that something that 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: evolved as you got older. 68 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I was really focused on sports, Like 69 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: I was just a really I was late to the 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: party and everything like maturing, you know, growing into being 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: a girly girl like I was definitely always the. 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: Tomboy, hung out with the boys in the block. 73 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: We had a lot of boys in our neighborhood, had 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: an older brother, I had mostly boy cousins. 75 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: It was around my dad's teams. 76 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 3: Like it was a seame of It didn't feel different 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: to be the only girl, because that's just kind of 78 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: how I grow up, right, And so I do remember, 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: you know, there were I guess other things that were 80 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: exciting to me, but it always centered around sports. The memories, 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: whether it was again just us being at the baseball 82 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: field with my dad, or going to my brother's games, 83 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: or you know, going to my own games. And thinking 84 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 3: back to I have no idea how my working mom 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: did it. 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: And carted us to all these events. 87 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: Now that I'm a mom and our kids are starting 88 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: to get involved in activities, but it's it's really cool 89 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: to think that sports has just always kind of been 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: around and evolved that way. And then I think too, 91 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: like we live in such a different culture now where 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: you can watch content all the time, right, Like kids 93 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: are getting fed highlights anytime they pick up their phone, 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: or you know, you can see them just any hour 95 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: of the day and I think for us it was 96 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: more appointment television, where like the big game was coming up, 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: and it was the build up and the excitement, and. 98 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: You'd physically get the newspaper. 99 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: In the morning and you'd read about the game the 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: night before, you'd read about the game coming up that day, 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: and it was this slower process of the anticipation of 102 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: the activity and the sport and what was to come 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: with it. And so I do remember that a lot 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: from being a kid again. Now it's like we're just 105 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 3: we're just watching highlights all the time, which is awesome, 106 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: but it's just very different. 107 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: It's it's really interesting that you can look up anything 109 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: at any moment. You don't have to necessarily tune in 110 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: unless you're trying to avoid spoilers in real time. 111 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: Right right, which is so hard to do nowadays. 112 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: My husband guys all the time and I'm like, what, Like, 113 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: you're on your phone all the time? 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: How are you? 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: How are you to avoid the score of the game 116 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: that's happened three hours ago. 117 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: It's when you were a kid, did you know that 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: you wanted to work in sports because of the way 119 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: that you grew up in your family, or did that 120 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: dawn on you later. 121 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, my earliest memory of picking a career 122 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: was I wanted to be a marine biologist and work 123 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: with dolphins like that. And I also remember writing this 124 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: paper where I wanted to be a gymnast in the 125 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: Olympics and I was going to have three kids and 126 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: be a gymnast in the Olympics. And you know, in 127 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: my eight year old of mind, that sounded like a reality. 128 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: But then those were my. 129 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: First two early career choices. 130 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: But yes, shortly after that, once I realized that you 131 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: could work in sports, I think that it always was like, 132 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 3: that's what I'm going to do. And I think the 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: beginning of those again goes back to just being at 134 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: the field with my dad. We had a wonderful prep 135 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: reporter in Colorado. 136 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: Her name is Marsiha Neville. 137 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: And if Marsha was at your high school game, you 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: guys were the best in the state. Like she you know, 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: she presence meant that your team was amazing. So, you know, 140 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: my dad was fortunate to have some good teams and 141 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: she would be there and she would run right on 142 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: the field after the game to interview him, and I 143 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: was like, she's getting. 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: Out there faster than I am, Like, I'm supposed to be. 145 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: Out there first as the daughter of the coach, So 146 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: I was like, that's a cool job, and I think 147 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: that kind of that seed was planted. And then seeing 148 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: Melissa Stark on TV on Monday Night Football in the 149 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: late nineties was really when like the aha moment for me, 150 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: that reppresentation moment of there's someone that looks like me 151 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: and is TB and at the big event like that 152 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: would be a dream job, and the kind of using 153 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: that as a springboard to eventually creating a career that Luckily. 154 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: I think I was pretty naive in that moment. 155 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: I didn't know how competitive the industry was, and my 156 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: dad didn't either, and you know, just spoke those words 157 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: of truth into me and said you can do this, 158 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: And that's all it took for me to have a 159 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: really big dream. 160 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: That's so cool and what a neat thing too that 161 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: you can really see the way that that phrase, if 162 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: you can see it, you can be it really was 163 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: so true for you. You saw these women in these 164 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: roles and saw yourself in them. 165 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 166 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's what has become so special 167 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 3: about where my career path took me is because it's 168 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: allowed me to look back and realized, like why I 169 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: had such a focus and a narrow focus really at 170 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: the time. If you ask any of my college friends, 171 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: they will all tell you when I what I want 172 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: to do for a living, it was I want to 173 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: be a football sideline reporter. 174 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: And it was just so specific. 175 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: To again that representation that I saw Melissa Stark and 176 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: I think Linda Cohane was on TV doing Sports Center 177 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: at the time, you know, anchoring at a desk, and 178 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: there were a few women, but the majority I think 179 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: of women that you saw in sport with on a 180 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: sideline of a football field specifically. 181 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: And then it just kind of grew. 182 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: It grew into other sports, it grew into other aspects, 183 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: it grew into hosting jobs, and then eventually we started hearing, 184 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: you know, more female voices calling games or being the 185 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: analyst of games, and that's really taken off in the 186 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: last you know, five to ten years, and so just 187 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: to be a part of that conversation and now to 188 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: know that if you could ask if I was in 189 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: college now and you asked me what I wanted to do, 190 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: I hope I would have a broader stroke than just 191 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: this narrow focus, because there are so many jobs that 192 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: you can see women doing in sports, and it's not 193 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: just on camera, and it's not just on radio. There's writers, 194 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: there's producers, there's directors, like it is all around. And 195 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: when I think about baseball specifically, like we now have 196 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: a female and uniform for the San Francisco Giants, Slissa 197 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: n Akin as a coach there, and that presentation is 198 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: so powerful and she like braids her hair and it's 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: just this cool, like oh my gosh, and going to 200 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: a Giants game and being at Oracle Park, I see 201 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: little girls in the stands all the time, either like 202 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: also have a braid or have signs for Lissa. Like 203 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: girls are getting incorporated into the game. Where now MLB 204 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: the show came out today and they have an entire 205 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 3: arena that you can play as a female in Major 206 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: League Baseball. And it's just like, I think the idea 207 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: of representation matters is no longer an idea. It's like, 208 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: we have to make this happen and work, and the 209 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: visual has to be there because you're right, seeing is 210 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: believing and Billy Jean King did it so long ago 211 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: for all of us, and I don't get out of that, 212 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: and she's still on a platform of encouraging women to 213 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: continue in their successes in sports, and it's really special. 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: It really is. 215 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: I feel so lucky I sit on the advisory board 216 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: of the First Women's Bank with Billy Jean, and getting 217 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: to work alongside one of my literal lifelong heroes in 218 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: this equity space in finance for women has been the 219 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: coolest thing in my recent years. And we got to 220 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: do some advocacy around the fiftieth anniversary of her foundation, 221 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm so in awe to your point 222 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: of how all these things that I grew up caring 223 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: about and wanting to work on. Isn't it weird when 224 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: we sit at these points like you and I are 225 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: now as adults, And you go. 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: Like, if ten year old me I had any idea 227 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: that this was my life, she wouldn't believe it. No, 228 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: there's not a way. They're so cool. But I think too, 229 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: like like you just kind of brought it up. 230 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: It's it's your passion and your purpose, like those things 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: you can't remove from from inside of you. And so 232 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: I think having people around you that feed into them, 233 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: like allow it to grow and have allowed it to 234 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: like become you know, where we are today and being 235 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: able to sit at a table with Billy jan King 236 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: and know that you were impacted and influenced by what 237 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: she did so long ago, and now you get a 238 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: work alongside of her to continue the conversation of equity 239 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 3: is like, it's it's really powerful stuff. 240 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: It's so so cool. Do you ever you know now 241 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: from this position that you're in, you're also a mom, 242 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: do you talk to your dad about you know, what 243 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: it was like for him to watch you grow up 244 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: and grow in to the woman that you are? 245 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: Like? 246 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: Is it? 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: Is it sort of a surreal thing to be able 248 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: to look at your kids and also look at how 249 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: you were raised and see all of these familial connections. 250 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it really is. 251 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: And it's com full circle because I think for me, 252 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: my parents have always preached you can do whatever you 253 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 3: want and you know we're going to support you. And 254 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: that wasn't just like a teenager to live out a 255 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: dream and get into college or to go do a career. 256 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: That was like a lifelong. 257 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: Commitment that they made because they honestly are a huge 258 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: part of caretaking for our children now and out That 259 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: like without that support of my mom, especially saying like 260 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: I'm in retirement, this is what I want to be 261 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: doing for you and for your family, Like, we wouldn't 262 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: be able to do these careers. I wouldn't be able 263 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: to take these opportunities because I'm away from my kids 264 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: sometimes in baseball and in the in the chaos of 265 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: that world. 266 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: And you know. 267 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: My husband's a fire fighter and his schedule is so 268 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: different and unique. And so my parents have been this 269 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: extension of our family and my husband's parents, you know, 270 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: my in laws, they don't live in Colorado where we reside, 271 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: but they have all made a priority to like put 272 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: their lives on hold at moments where we just need 273 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: them so that we can keep going in our careers. 274 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: And that, to me is that familial connection. 275 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: Of like, you know. 276 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: That like trust and belief in you to be whatever 277 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: you want to be, but also be like we're going 278 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: to help you do that. 279 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: It's it's cool. And so yeah, we've we've had those. 280 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: Conversations and had those taks, but like I look back 281 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: now more so on our growing up and I don't 282 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: know how it felt so seamless, Like I don't know 283 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: how my parents both held jobs and you know, still 284 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: like figured out and found the time to invest in 285 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: our athletic endeavors and get us to all these games, 286 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: and you know, like the sacrifices that they make as parents. 287 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: They're very special people for sure, and I'm so grateful 288 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: for them. 289 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: That's so cool. And now a word from our sponsors 290 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: who make this show possible. I also think it's so 291 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: nice when you can talk about how it really works, 292 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: because there is this notion that and I do believe 293 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: it's true, we can have it all, but you can't 294 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: really have it all at the same time. It requires 295 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: juggling and planning and scheduling. And I think the way 296 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: it works is when you're in community or in the 297 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: community of your family. It does really take a village. 298 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: And I think it's so important that we kind of 299 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: let each other in on that reality. People don't look 300 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: around and go, why can't I do all of this 301 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: by myself? Why can't I spend all of these plates. 302 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: It's like, you can't. You need it, You need a crew. 303 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: And how lucky you guys are that your family can 304 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: be that crew for you. 305 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you're so right. 306 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: And I think it's we've been sold this message for 307 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: so long, especially as women, to your point of like 308 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: you can do it all. You can be a superwoman, 309 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: super mom, Like yeah, but it's exhausting and it's hard 310 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: and it's hard work, and it's not it's not linear, 311 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: Like it's not like, Okay, you have this career and 312 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: here's that box, and like you have your family and 313 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: here's that box for us in our world, like those 314 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: are constantly intersecting, and the scheduling part is honestly sometimes 315 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: the most draining part of my day and my week, 316 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: because you know, it's the responsibility of like does a 317 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: small human have an adult with them at all times? 318 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: And always who I'm asking for favors for and you 319 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: know we're hiring how as well. 320 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: And you know, I want to. 321 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: Make sure our kids grow up in activities and have 322 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 3: you know, friends and fun. But now I'm asking these 323 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: people that are taking care of them to not only 324 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: take care of them, but get them to and from 325 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: places and make sure they're happy and healthy. And you know, 326 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: I think as a mom, we are constantly like your 327 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: heart is checking in on everyone, and you want everyone 328 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 3: to be in the best place. 329 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: But that means like you. 330 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 3: Know, are you in the best place and you're taking 331 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: care of yourself and it's like, yeah, you're just constantly 332 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: going through and thinking of things. Your brain like never 333 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: shuts off. Our calendar is open all the time. You know, 334 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: best best laid plans, always made a backup plan. 335 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: And then there's a poor dog. 336 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: I did someone take the dog and a walk today 337 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: and play with them, right, So it's it's so wonderful 338 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: and it's so beautiful and it feeds so much of 339 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: my soul that I can have this career and have 340 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 3: this family. 341 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: But it is constant work and it's. 342 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: Hard work, and I think more than anything, we all learned. 343 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: And I definitely point back to the pandemic of like 344 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: this idea where when we had to stop and we 345 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: had to get back into things and we had to 346 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 3: be away from people, like human beings were made for community, 347 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: and it just like circles right back to your point 348 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 3: of I'm so grateful that we get to raise our 349 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: kids in a big community and that our families are 350 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: involved and helpful, and we have wonderful friends involved, and 351 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: our baseball community is involved. I mean they you know, 352 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: welcome our kids to doing things when we're at work, 353 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: and being around the game, and that's how I grew up. 354 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: I grew up with baseball, and my husband grew up 355 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: with baseball. So it's a big part of our family. 356 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: And I love that the intersection happens between career and family. 357 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really special and it's not lost on me 358 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: that as you talk about the you know, logistics for 359 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: both you and your husband, your kids, your families, you're 360 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: not only doing this as you know, one half of 361 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: a working partnership, of a marriage with two careers in it, 362 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: but you're doing this in your individual career where you've 363 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: moved up the ranks as a woman in sports in 364 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: a world, particularly in baseball that has really been primarily 365 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: dominated by men. Yeah, and so it's you're not just 366 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: juggling a big life, but you're breaking these boundaries while 367 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: you're doing it. 368 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: Has How has that felt? 369 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I imagine there have been times where it's been amazing 370 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: and times where it's been hard, and you know, it's 371 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: it's probably been every end of the spectrum. 372 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: That's it, the rollercoaster of emotion in doing it. 373 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: I'm really grateful for the women in our industry, specifically, 374 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: I have a producer, I had a producer with the Rockies. 375 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: That's a female and a very dear friend of mine, 376 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: and she was breaking you know, per barriers on the 377 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: production side, and probably one of the only female producers 378 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: of the Big four sports, you know, really in television 379 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: that is a female, and she has three kids, and 380 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: she was kind of the first representation to me that like, oh, 381 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: you can't have a family and figure this out. 382 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: And she was very encouraging in that. 383 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: And I watched how hard it was, and I watched 384 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: how they made it work, and I took, you know, notes, 385 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: and I. 386 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: Was like, Okay, if she can do it, I can 387 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: do it. 388 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: And she was really a huge factor for me because 389 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: when I had kids, I you know, was trying to 390 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: plan out when I was coming back, and I remember 391 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: her saying, well, maybe we shouldn't say in it. Maybe 392 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 3: you're gonna have a baby, and four weeks later you're 393 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: ready to come back to work, and maybe you're gonna 394 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: have a baby and you're not going to be ready 395 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: for twelve weeks, and like we're going to be here 396 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: and we're gonna support you, and we're going to figure 397 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: that out. But like, you don't want to put a 398 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: limitation on yourself one way or the other. 399 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't think a man would have told me that 400 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: that was my boss. 401 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: I think he would have looked at a schedule, and 402 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: I think he would have said, by law, like your 403 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: date coming back is this day, and that's when the 404 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: team is, you know, in Oakland or in San Diego, 405 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: and you know you're going to be there and then 406 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: you're just going to move on. When I had my 407 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: first baby, I remember asking our company about like breastfeeding 408 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 3: and if I can send like use that milk store 409 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: company and send the milk. 410 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: Back, and like would they pay for that? 411 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: And like, no, you. 412 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: Don't pay for that. 413 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: That's crazy, And I was like, oh, okay, well, I 414 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: you know, this is like a pretty big company. 415 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: We were owned by a pretty big parent company, and. 416 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure they have some sort of policy for working 417 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 3: moms that have to travel, like could you just look 418 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: into it a little bit further so you know, of course, 419 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: it takes forever for them to look into it. And 420 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: I'll never forget. I had just called my first Major 421 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: League game in twenty eighteen. I was six months postpartum. 422 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: I was panicking about like what am I going to do? 423 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: Because I'm on air for three plus hours, is like 424 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: what happens if like I have to, you know, go 425 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: pump and I can't. 426 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: We're doing this game. 427 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: You were trying to figure that out while I'm also 428 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 3: doing something new with my job. And then we go 429 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: on a road trip and I remember thinking, I was like, 430 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: I guess I'm just done. 431 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: Like I guess I'm just gonna have to like dry up. 432 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: And we'll move on and it's okay, And I'm like 433 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 3: mourning this whole situation, and I'm thinking all of these 434 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: things when I'm in the shower and I get out 435 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: and I have a voicemail from my boss and he 436 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: was like, hey, good news, I figured out how we 437 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: can make things work for you. 438 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: And it's just, like anything, this is not the time. 439 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: It's six months too late to figure it out, right. 440 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: So I guess like the idea of just being in 441 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: this world as a woman where you're not getting a 442 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: lot of understanding, especially as you like grow into a different, 443 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: you know, role as a mom, And now I'm growing 444 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: to different roles in my career. And everyone that's had 445 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: this position in Major League Baseball as a primary play 446 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 3: by play has been a man and a lot of 447 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: those men, I would say probably eighty five percent of 448 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: them have a wife at home that's taking care of 449 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: all the home stuff and all the children's stuff, which 450 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: is a full time job. 451 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: And I have so much respect for those women because. 452 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: I know the challenges of that partner is away for 453 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 3: six months and they're very focused on their career. And 454 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: oftentimes I find myself so divided because I have to 455 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: be so focused on my career to make sure that 456 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: I'm just as good, if not trying to be better, 457 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: because I'm a woman in the seat and I have 458 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: all the home stuff to deal, to deal with and 459 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 3: to do, and you know, that's that's the path we've chosen, 460 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: and it's a privilege, it really is. But it's chaotic 461 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: and it's really hard sometimes. And I feel so supported 462 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: on saying all this. I feel so supported by my 463 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: partner and by my husband, you know, doing his poll too, 464 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 3: and having to make a lot of sacrifices because of 465 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: this career I've chosen. But it's just different when you're 466 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: the woman and when you're the mom, and the way 467 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: like you think and process things and want to plan 468 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 3: for your family, like that just doesn't go away because 469 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: you're off doing other big career things. 470 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's so important that we're upfront 471 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: about those things. Yes, and we can give each other 472 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: advice and mentorship about it because it shouldn't have to 473 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: be a binary for us, right, you know that it's 474 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: got to be one or the other. But it does 475 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: require that other people. It requires that other people make 476 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: allowances for us that we've been raised to make for them. 477 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yes, that's such a powerful point. 478 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: And I think like the more upfront we are about 479 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 3: all of that, Like, I will show you these bags 480 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 3: in my head right like it's there, Like there's not 481 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 3: a lot of sleep happening right now, and that's okay. 482 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: And I'm so comfortable in this idea that this is 483 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: our season and this is where we're at. And I 484 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: keep going back to that when I'm overwhelmed or anxious 485 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: or letting the fear set in of how are we 486 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: going to do all of this? Like I just have 487 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: to center back to the experience that we've had to 488 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: this point and the people that we have in our lives, 489 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: and like, it's all going to be okay. But it's 490 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: so important that it's there's a visual for it, because again, 491 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: we're inundated with content, right, and I find myself in 492 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: the same pattern, just like when we were growing up 493 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: it was the magazine's Remember they talked about body image 494 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 3: on magazines. 495 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: That you're seeing. 496 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: Well, now that again takeaway like that comes out every 497 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: week or every month, like now it's every second. Like 498 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 3: if you pull up Instagram, you're just inundated with something 499 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: that is not really realistic. Like I'm seeing these women 500 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: with these beautiful homes and there are kids look like 501 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: they're just all in order, and their kids sleep at. 502 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 2: Night, Like my kids don't sleep at night. How this 503 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: is happening. 504 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: But we're inundated with this world of like perfection because 505 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: content is in really short clips that's just packaged nicely 506 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: for you, and we need to have the bigger picture. 507 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: Sometimes we need to understand that it's not it's that 508 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot going on with it being a working mom, 509 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: being you know, someone who's describing their career, and it 510 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: just we need to help each other. 511 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: We need to have that be upfront beforeward. 512 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 513 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's one of the things that the 514 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: internet's so amazing, right, because it gives us these opportunities 515 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: for community and connection. And I think it can be 516 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: really toxic because we forget that we're looking at content, 517 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: not not at reality right right, So we we forget 518 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: that people have schedules and calendars of deliverables that might 519 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: be planned a year in advance, and that that might 520 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 1: be their life even anymore, but it has to be 521 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: for a job or a contract. And it's hard to 522 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: remember that what we're seeing is very often produced or 523 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: just such a small fraction of someone's life. And I 524 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: think everyone I know is really kind of on the 525 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: seesaw of how they feel about it, like it's a 526 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: real push pull right now. And I think it's what 527 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: makes the ability to do things like this exciting for 528 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: me personally. It's it's why I think, you know, our 529 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: listeners listen because they get to actually hear what you 530 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: have to say, what you know, what my questions are 531 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: for you, and vice versa, Like we can we can 532 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: be together in community, not just in like a ten 533 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: second clip, and then it seems like that's life. 534 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, just package up nicely, make it sound cute, 535 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 3: look yeah things, Yeah, it's it's and I think you know, 536 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: as I were raising kids and going back to that 537 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: mom thing I've watched a lot of my friends who 538 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: have older kids. I really struggle with how early do 539 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 3: you let them look at social media? How you let 540 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: them into this world because you know, back to original point, 541 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: like that provides community for them, and that's so important. 542 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 2: In growing up. 543 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 3: But are their minds even well equipped to like be 544 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 3: able to understand what's real and what's not real? 545 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: Are our minds as yeah, forty year olds even there? No? 546 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, what about for us? 547 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: We all struggle, Like I think, I keep coming back 548 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: to this word, and I was so lucky to go 549 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: through this process. On the Today Show and Hoda brought 550 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: up like imposter syndrome, right, and I'm like, I can't 551 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 3: believe you've been said that right now in this five 552 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: minute interview we're having because it's a phrase I just 553 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: keep coming back to, Like I feel like I'm having 554 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: it in my career and then I feel like in 555 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: your day to day life, it's like it's just this 556 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: constant battle of like what is real, what's not real? 557 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: Who's real? How do we act real? And Yeah, it's 558 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: it's a strange world out. 559 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: There, for sure. Yeah, but a good one to your point. 560 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: And now, a word from our sponsors. Now that people 561 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: do look up so many things, as you were mentioning earlier, 562 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: what a wild, incredible moment in history. You know, people 563 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: can go to look up the MLB and see you 564 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: our first ever female primary play by play announcer. Like 565 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: do you ever go, oh my god, that's me, Like 566 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm the first one. I did it. 567 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: It's crazy because I think I just think there's been 568 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: like women that have been doing it. It's just another 569 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: step of like adding that primary word in right, so 570 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: you look back like Susan Waldman has been doing Yankees 571 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: games in the radio booth for decades and the future 572 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: about the Yankees like a very storied fran and she's 573 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: been a huge part of that. I've been a big 574 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: voice of that team for so long. And after I 575 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: called my first game in twenty eighteen, I remember Melanie 576 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 3: Newman reaching out to me and she was calling games 577 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: at the minor league level, and she eventually got a 578 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: job with Apple TV and with the Baltimore Orioles calling games, 579 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: and it's you know, it's so great to see that 580 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: women are doing it and being represented, and it's just 581 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: one more door opening that out of the thirty teams. 582 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 3: When you look at primary voices on television, it's going 583 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: to be twenty nine men and one female, and. 584 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: I that's a huge honor for sure. 585 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: But I also like the best part about it is 586 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: that the first always comes with the idea that it's 587 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: not going to be the last. 588 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: Right he has told us that, And so I can't. 589 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: Wait to, like, just see how it changes over the 590 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: next decade, because I feel really lucky to have been 591 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: a part of a conversation of a lot of change 592 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: in the game and in the sports TV game for 593 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 3: the last you know, six seven years, And so I'm like, 594 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: what is the next six seven years going to bring 595 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: with newation and new voices? 596 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: And it's so exciting. It is. 597 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: It's exciting, and I imagine it's also not always easy, 598 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, to be the first one in a room 599 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: can sometimes be really hard. And I guess I'm curious 600 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: with everything that's working and the way that you and 601 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: your family and your coworkers and your whole village is 602 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: really figuring out how to make this happen. How have 603 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: you also managed to persevere? How have you managed to 604 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: figure out how to deal with what comes when the 605 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: backlash comes, The sexism, the judgment. 606 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: How do you navigate that? Yeah, I think. 607 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: It's like if this job would have come for me 608 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: ten years ago, fifteen years ago, there's no way, Like 609 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: I was not comfortable enough in my own skin to 610 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: handle what other people were saying about me. Especially, I 611 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: think I grew up like a people pleaser and that well, 612 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: that's yeah, right, I ra'd your going, so, you know, 613 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: battling that those comments can can say they don't matter, 614 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: but as they add up, like, oh no, do I 615 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: need to change? 616 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: Am I doing something wrong? How do I fix this problem? 617 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: Best piece of advice I've gotten in the last couple 618 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: of months. 619 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: I just admire her so much. 620 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: Kate Scott is the voice of the Philadelphia seventy six Ors. 621 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: She's one of two female primary voices in the NBA. 622 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: Lisa Byington and her became the first female voices last year, 623 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: and I, you know, told her I was going to 624 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: be getting this job before it became public because she's 625 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: from the Bay Area and she knows a lot of 626 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: the same people I'm going to be working with, knows 627 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: the market, and then again, you know, she's just done 628 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: the first thing. So I was like, I just need 629 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: you to like, help me, what's come in my way? 630 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: Set me up? 631 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: She just said to me, listen, there will be so 632 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: many comments. There will be good ones, there will be 633 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: bad ones, and everything in between. And what you have 634 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: to understand is the people writing those comments are dealing 635 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: with their own insecurities. They're dealing with the own personal stuff, 636 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: and you're the one in the way of that, and 637 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: that's where this is coming from. And just to put 638 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: a face to that and be like, yes, you are 639 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: so right about that, Like that is that's a hard concept, 640 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: I think to understand now. But can you imagine, like 641 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 3: if we could get kids to understand that concept of 642 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 3: like what they're reading on the internet and that it's 643 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: not necessarily about you or at you, but people are 644 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 3: just dealing with whatever it is biases their own drunk 645 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: in their life, and like you're the one they heard 646 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: and they didn't like, and they're going to just let 647 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: it loose on you, you know. 648 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: So I really have not read a lot of comments. 649 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: I learned a long time ago to just not engage 650 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 3: in that realm of social media. And I think too, 651 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: as you grow, no matter your career, you have to 652 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 3: find people that you trust and that doesn't just mean 653 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 3: people that are going to blow smoke up your wazoo all. 654 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: The time and tell you how great you are. 655 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: It's people that are going to tell you when you're 656 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: not doing a good job, when you're not showing up, 657 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 3: when you can be better, people that are going to 658 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 3: push you to be better. 659 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: And I would not be in this. 660 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: Position of this place if I didn't have those people 661 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: in my career life and in my personal home life. 662 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: My husband's a huge person like that for me. But 663 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 3: the producer that I was mentioning, Alison v. Hill, she 664 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 3: she's one of those people that, like in my career 665 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: she started this. She's the one that's like, why aren't 666 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: you doing We're going to have you do play by play. 667 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 3: We're gonna we're going to do this and we're going 668 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: to be here and we're going to figure it out. 669 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: And Yeah, it's people that like I would have never 670 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 3: been like. And that's the next career goal that was 671 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 3: scary to me, that was weird, that wasn't in my wheelhouse. 672 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 3: But other people seeing something in you, making you get 673 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 3: out of your comfort zone, making you push doing things 674 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: that are uncomfortable. 675 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: That's when we grow, right, and when you're in. 676 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: An entertainment industry, whether it's you know, what I do 677 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 3: in sports broadcasting, what you do as an actress, like 678 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 3: getting out of your comfort zone is like the number 679 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: one thing that we have to do and a lot 680 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: of people don't have to do that in public and 681 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: on this big stage. But that's just the job in 682 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 3: the arena we've chosen. And so so I think again, 683 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: I have to rely on my experiences and I have 684 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 3: to know when I start this season, I game one 685 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 3: for me is not going to be the same as 686 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: Game one sixty two. 687 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: It's there's growth that is going to happen. 688 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: There's growth because I'm now doing play by play every 689 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: day and not just backing up and filling in every 690 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 3: once in a while. So I have to give myself 691 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: grace in that and know like my employers, the people 692 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 3: who chose me for this job, they also are going 693 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: to be doing that because they see the long term 694 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 3: and not just today and what's going to happen out 695 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 3: of the gate. And I also like it is such 696 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: a team thing for me. You talk about the loneliness 697 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: maybe of being the first in a room, but I've 698 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: never looked at it as like me being this female. 699 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 3: It's I'm doing a job with an analyst, and I'm 700 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: doing a job with a particular the whole team of people. Like, 701 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 3: to me, sports broadcasting is the ultimate team sport because 702 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: when you walk you might be a voice of something, 703 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 3: but there are countless amount of people that put in 704 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 3: time to the day to researching, to all the video elements, 705 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 3: to putting graphics together, storylines, and then as the game 706 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: is unfolding, like making sure that everyone is on the 707 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: same page and getting it together and getting the message across. 708 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: And so to me, the men in my life who've. 709 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: Also supported me and the analysts that I've worked with, like, 710 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: that's the team that's they're taking a huge risk in 711 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: this too, because they're stepping into that arena with me. 712 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: And I remember looking back in twenty eighteen when we 713 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: call the game, not just the backlash that I got, 714 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: but the backlash and the comments that my counterpard that 715 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 3: my mail analysts got, some of the phone calls from 716 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 3: their friends that they got, and then them telling me 717 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: about them, And part of me was like, Okay, you. 718 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: Don't have to tell me everything, And part of me was. 719 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 3: Like, this is interesting, opens up this conversation of you know, 720 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 3: it's new, it's changed. There's a different voice that is 721 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: calling a game. There is a female voice and not 722 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: a male voice. And it's a hard change for a 723 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 3: lot of people who've grown up in sports, growing up 724 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 3: watching sports. 725 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: When you've only. 726 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: Heard you know, one one tone and a male tone, 727 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 3: and now you're a female tone, it can be jarring. 728 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 2: That's understandable. 729 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: But I think when we get over all of that 730 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: and it becomes more commonplace, and we're seeing it in 731 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 3: the NBA for sure, right ye a game the other 732 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 3: night and there was a female play by play and 733 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: a female analyst calling an NBA game, and it is 734 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 3: like nothing now to your ears. 735 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't think it's jarring. I don't think it's weird. 736 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: I think the NBA fan has had female voices in 737 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 3: the game for the last couple years and they've adjusted 738 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: and now they're starting to realize, do you know this 739 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 3: game or do. 740 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 2: Not know this game? 741 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 3: Do you are coming with like great entertainment value and 742 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 3: stories and passion and get me excited about basketball or 743 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 3: do you not? 744 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: That's the judgment and that's how it should be. Be Like, 745 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 2: I hate your. 746 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 3: Voice and you're a woman and I don't like this, 747 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: or you know, there is an and calling the game, 748 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 3: and that's better. It should be like, am I enjoying 749 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: my experience of like learning something understanding the game Differently? 750 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 2: If those are your takeaways. 751 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 3: And you can walk away saying like, oh I learned 752 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: something new or oh that was cool, then that's way 753 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: better than just judging something by a male or female perspective. 754 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree. And I think look, at the end 755 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: of the day, sports are for everyone, everyone, everyone, and 756 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: the shifts that we're seeing, I mean for me as 757 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, such a lifelong sports fan and like now 758 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: the part owner of a soccer team, like the work 759 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: everyone in my life has been doing. You know, the 760 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: last ten years have been so major. The last five 761 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: years have been transformational, seeing the national team players sue 762 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: US Soccer and you know, fight for pay equity, seeing 763 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, the attention that women's sports have garnered just 764 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: this year, that cat and the New York Liberty, Like 765 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: everybody's paying attention, and it's really exciting to see the 766 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: metrics in terms of you know, the value add in 767 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: terms of the ticket sales, like seeing you know, women's 768 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 1: collegiate basketball tickets go for more than the Golden State 769 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: Warriors tickets. 770 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't hate it, like so cool and 771 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 2: it's cool. 772 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like it's about time that all of 773 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: these incredible performance athletes are being recognized for their skill 774 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: and really getting to show people who they are, who 775 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: they've always been. 776 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: It's it's so thrilling, it is. 777 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 3: I mean, Jason Sidekis could wear anything he wants at 778 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: any given time, and how we've seen him photographed in 779 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 3: a WNBA sweatshirt. 780 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, he loves that's where he's at. 781 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: He's totally and you know, I've seen it a lot 782 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: and calling women's basketball the last several years. 783 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: Camera Brinko plays for Stanford. 784 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: Her parents went to college with Steph Curry's parents, and 785 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: Steph Curry is often at Stanford women's basketball games. And 786 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: that's not loss like these crazy you know, big time 787 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: pop stars, rappers, actors, other male athletes walking in to 788 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 3: an arena where women are playing sports like that, which 789 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 3: is powerful totally. 790 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: When I was living in Chicago and you know, going 791 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: to Red Stars games and Sky games all the time, 792 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: Like you know, I went to a basketball game one 793 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: night and fifty cent walked in and we were like, 794 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: what are you doing here? 795 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 2: Also, this is so cool and you know that's. 796 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, ten years ago, and it's really it 797 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: is a very thrilling time to see the way at 798 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: least what it looks like. Listen, I'm asthmatic. I'm a 799 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: sports fan. I'm not a sports player. It's never really 800 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: been my thing, but like I as a fan who 801 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: has been paying attention for most of my life, it 802 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: feels like people are finally casting a wider net and 803 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: making room for more of us, and that that just 804 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: feels so exciting. And I'm I guess I'm really bolstered 805 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: because you're the actual expert on this in the room, 806 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: and it's nice to know that you feel the same, 807 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: that there's progress being made, you know, for women in 808 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: traditionally male arenas of sport, but also in female sports coverage. 809 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, I do. I feel I feel the growth. 810 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 3: I see the growth of experiencing the growth, right, and 811 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 3: you're doing it on a level of being an owner, 812 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 3: and so I will go there like that is such 813 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 3: an important space where the equality measures can continue to 814 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 3: grow because without women in positions of power to make 815 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: some of these decisions. This doesn't grow right, It just 816 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 3: doesn't mean I can point directly to the producer that 817 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 3: was a female that started the conversation. And yes, males 818 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: got on board and there were allies and they were like, yes, yes, 819 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 3: let's go, but it was a woman that made that 820 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 3: decision first and foremost. I was just hired at NBC 821 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 3: Sports California by a woman who is a you know, 822 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 3: wonderful visionary. And the decision makers have to change the game. 823 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 3: We can work and we can try, and we can pursue, 824 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 3: but like up top, got to change the game there. 825 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 2: I think the numbers show it. 826 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 3: Like if you just want to go back to being fans, 827 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if we're talking about you know, the 828 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 3: primary four sports, the Big four in just men's sports, 829 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 3: but adding women's sports onto that. 830 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: When you look at the. 831 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: People sitting in the stands, the people spending money, which 832 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 3: is always what it's going to come back to, because 833 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 3: this is a business, after all, there are fifty percent 834 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 3: or close to fifty percent, not more than fifty percent 835 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: represented as female fans. 836 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: And this has been an NFL for so long. We 837 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: have seen these numbers. 838 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: They've been out there and like there weren't really clothing 839 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 3: companies even within the last ten years before Aaron Andrews 840 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: started something that we're even promoting clothing for these sports 841 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 3: teams to female fans, even though the numbers suggested that 842 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 3: that marketplace was there. 843 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 2: And so if that marketplace is there, and we're seeing. 844 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 3: Them in the stands, and we're seeing women talking online 845 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 3: about sports and watching sports, then why isn't the representation 846 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 3: of women on the other side. And so that is 847 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 3: I think we've been just as I mentioned, I think 848 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: it's been flying off the shelves and growing at a 849 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 3: great rate over the last ten years. And I think 850 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 3: there's always room for improvement and always more growth to come. 851 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 3: But it's it's just about it's just about continuing the 852 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 3: conversation and continuing the visual and you know, making that change. 853 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so exciting and it's so cool to know 854 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: that we're going to get to continue the conversation with 855 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: you and that you're just going to continue like charging 856 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: into these spaces and bringing more of us along with you, 857 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean across the whole landscape. It feels like such 858 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: an inspiring and optimistic work in progress. 859 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, right. I think it's always a work 860 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: in progress. 861 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll go back to yeah with Billy Jean King, 862 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 3: like when she set out for the Battle of Sexes, 863 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 3: Like what was her ultimate goal? Was there an end 864 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 3: goal to it or was it a movement? And was 865 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 3: it something that was going to be continuous? And exactly 866 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 3: that was it? Like she had she had a passion 867 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: and purpose for her life and that moment in time 868 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 3: was just like a it was a marker, it was 869 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 3: a beginning. It was a push a little bit, and 870 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 3: we're just that's it, Like we're just going to keep 871 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 3: inching things open and. 872 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 2: You know soon it's it's going to be just the floodgates. 873 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: Really exciting what for you? Because it's i mean, it's 874 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: a big topic we're talking about. It's industries, it's gender equity, 875 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: it's it's big. But when you when you distill down 876 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: that idea and think about it just for you as 877 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: an individual, what what feels like your work in progress 878 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: from this moment in your life and career? 879 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 2: Gosh, that is Oh I've thought about that a lot. 880 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: It's the really challenging right, Like I think, I think 881 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 3: it's always so good to look back because especially when 882 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 3: you're in moments of like uncertainty and scary. And that's 883 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 3: the moment I found myself in last year is our 884 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 3: regional sports network that owned the Rockies was giving up 885 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 3: the rights. So we were all working last year not 886 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 3: really knowing the future of our jobs, not really knowing 887 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: go being in a space of like, like doing what 888 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be doing. What happens if the you know, 889 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 3: run gets out from under me and this job and 890 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 3: like that's it and there's no more opportunities and it's dry, 891 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 3: and like, what real world job am I going to get? 892 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 3: How do you put like talks about sports on a resume? 893 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 3: I think it's more than that, but you know it's 894 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 3: you're just saying your wheels are. 895 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 2: Spinning, Like do I need to reinvent myself? What's happened? 896 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 3: So I went through this whole exercise like throughout the 897 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 3: course of the season, But I think what's always polled 898 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 3: me is this And I mentioned the word a couple 899 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 3: of times, But it's passion, right, Like when you have 900 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 3: such a passion to do something, it lights your fire, 901 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 3: like you always get drawn back to it, no matter 902 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 3: if you're taking lefts or rights, like somehow you have 903 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 3: to circle back to like finding that direction and finding 904 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 3: the light that's guiding you. And so for me having 905 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 3: this be such a passion, I think I can look 906 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 3: back on my experience and my growth of like day 907 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 3: one when I started doing play by play and it 908 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 3: was so foreign to me to learning different bits and 909 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 3: pieces about how to prepare, but better how to prepare 910 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 3: more efficiently, how to put it together. And as they 911 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 3: go into this season, I think that's my growth opportunity 912 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 3: is like I would. 913 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 2: Lie to you if I sat here and was like, 914 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 2: I am so ready for this. 915 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 3: We're going to dominate it, Like I am ready, but 916 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: I also have room to grow, and I have to 917 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 3: live in that, and I have to live in like 918 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 3: there's a voice of fear that lives in the back 919 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 3: of your mind and I have to live with like 920 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 3: quieting that down with just confidence of experience and knowing 921 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 3: that like every day is going to be different. I'm 922 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 3: going to learn something new every day. I'm going to 923 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 3: grow from it every day and I'm not I'm not 924 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: gonna be perfect, and that's okay, and that's that's okay. 925 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 3: That's the space we need to live in and as 926 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 3: long as we're growing and getting better and producing and connecting, 927 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 3: Like that's that goes back to why I love to 928 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 3: do this and the passion of why I love to 929 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 3: do this. And my friend Kate Scott that I was 930 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 3: talking about earlier, she that like left me with that 931 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 3: little piece of advice is She's like, all you have 932 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 3: to do in this job is do the work and 933 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: be yourself. And whenever always comes go back to that, 934 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 3: do the work, be yourself. And I've told myself that 935 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: probably one hundred times a day the last you know, 936 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 3: four weeks, and as we entered this new season, and 937 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: really an athlete, like if you think about it in 938 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,720 Speaker 3: any sport, that's probably their you know, true center as well, 939 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 3: like do the work, work hard, be yourself. 940 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: In the game. 941 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 3: And the second a story that you mentally get just 942 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 3: bogged down and you can't perform right, you can't do 943 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 3: your job as an athlete. So I think that's like 944 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 3: such a great lesson for us as humans too. 945 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,240 Speaker 1: I love that do the work, be yourself. 946 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good one. Do the work. 947 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much, Jenny. You're so inspiring. 948 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: I really I'm so glad we got to hang today. 949 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 2: I know me too, right back after thanks, so it's great. 950 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you and congratulations and we'll be rooting for 951 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: you over here. 952 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 2: Thank you so much