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Speaker 9: August sixteenth, twenty twenty, episode two sixty three of the

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Speaker 9: Anak and floor In podcast. There's no way if the

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Speaker 4: But it's great to be with you.

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Speaker 9: So, Ken Flow, You're going to Washington, DC tomorrow to

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Speaker 9: help Ryan Hall get ready for his Ricardo Lamas fight.

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Speaker 4: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: I am? I am indeed, I'm just glad that you

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Speaker 2: woke up. Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a fight obviously at the end of

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Speaker 3: the month, but you are a very busy man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this, johm oh on a Sunday, dude.

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Speaker 9: My absolute pleasure. Do you know when that Hall Lamas

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Speaker 9: fight is, by the way, is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, this is pretty much heading into the last

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Speaker 3: Lamas is a beast coming in with a whole lot

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Speaker 3: obviously taking it very seriously. This is the second go

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad these guys are able to run it back.

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Speaker 4: Are you cornering him? August twenty ninth.

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Speaker 3: I will be there. I will be in Vegas. Are

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Speaker 3: my buddy.

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Speaker 4: Ann, So we need to get our schedules more alive.

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Speaker 9: I was in a good mood about sixty seconds ago,

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Speaker 9: and now I am bummed out because I'm still here

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Speaker 9: in Las Vegas. As you can see. If you don't

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Speaker 9: I stand by all three calls in the trilogy. Really

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Speaker 9: don't care if that does not dovetail with your opinion.

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Speaker 9: I respect your opinion, but at this point I slept

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Speaker 9: It was a close fight at times, but I like

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Speaker 3: This guy is as tough as they come. It was

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Speaker 2: Both guys are so we're respected.

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Speaker 3: Have accomplished everything you could possibly accomplish.

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Speaker 9: So it's always hard to write a text to your

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Speaker 3: Think that's an important statement that you just read from Daniel.

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Speaker 3: And I know DC. I don't want to reveal anything,

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Speaker 9: Of course, there was a lot of things that Daniel

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Speaker 3: But you see the way he handles adversity, the way

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Speaker 9: For look at his Wikipedia page and see those two

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Speaker 2: Life, definitely and listen, there's no shame.

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Speaker 3: I mean, DC has accomplished you know what few will

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Speaker 3: He has an awesome career as a commentator and a

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Speaker 3: And you know, either way, this is a legacy that

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Speaker 9: All Right, the ipokes, I buried the lead a little bit,

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Speaker 9: I poke of Steep a on DC. Obviously unintentional, one

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Speaker 9: If a referee doesn't see it, they are not to

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, what makes a referee elite in

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Speaker 3: Of ways, Mark Goddard because of his experience and he's

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Speaker 3: You know, it's one thing to say you didn't see it,

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Speaker 3: Mark, Mark Goddard, you know, it has been one of

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Speaker 3: to recover in a few days. But you know, getting

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Speaker 3: hit in the eye is absolutely brutal. I mean, getting

440
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Speaker 3: hit with a thumb in a boxing glove is not fun.

441
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Speaker 3: But with just the nature of those MMA gloves, there's

442
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Speaker 3: just not a great solution out there, because again, what

443
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Speaker 3: we do is not just striking.

444
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Speaker 2: We try to grapple. We need to grip and grab.

445
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Speaker 3: So until we find a better glove, this is what

446
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Speaker 3: just what's going to happen until the referees just on it.

447
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Speaker 3: About those hands being open and close to the face.

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Speaker 9: And even on the gloves, all the seams and fishing

449
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Speaker 9: and a lot of opportunities to have abrasions and things

450
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Speaker 9: so real quickly on Goddard, you know, he apologized sincerely

451
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Speaker 9: to Team Cormier. But someone commented on his post and

452
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Speaker 9: this would be my criticism or my line of thinking,

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Speaker 9: and I know, Kenny, you agree with this, and I

454
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Speaker 9: apologize for not having the Twitter handle of the comment or.

455
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Speaker 4: But he said.

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Speaker 9: It's one thing to say I can't and call what

457
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Speaker 9: I can't see right, which is what I'm asking for

458
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Speaker 9: a referee to say. It's another thing to say you

459
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Speaker 9: were punched. Daniel, sit down, my friend. Your default shouldn't

460
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Speaker 9: be so confident if you actually didn't see it. You

461
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Speaker 9: have a hard job, no doubt, and I don't mean

462
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Speaker 9: any disrespect, and nor do I, but therein lies the

463
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Speaker 9: rub for me. Don't demonstratively tell Daniel to sit down

464
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Speaker 9: and that you set you saw a punch when when

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Speaker 9: you can't. When the truth is that you can't call

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Speaker 9: what you can't see right absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: I think as a referee you need to balance your

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Speaker 3: ability to you know, be unbiased and stick to your guns.

470
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Speaker 3: But also you also can't just make something up, and

471
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Speaker 3: you know, you also need to be able to listen

472
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Speaker 3: to an experienced fighter like a Daniel Cormier, a former

473
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Speaker 3: champion in two weight classes, and trust him to a

474
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Speaker 3: certain extent, especially if there was something close to his

475
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Speaker 3: face and he's kind of grabbing his eye and turning away.

476
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Speaker 3: We see it a lot, and I think Herbdane is

477
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Speaker 3: one of those guys that does a good job of

478
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Speaker 3: listening to the fighter in those instances and being on

479
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Speaker 3: top of it. But again, what they do is extremely difficult,

480
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Speaker 3: and you know, I'm sure Mark's gonna learn from that.

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Speaker 4: All right, I think we have exhausted the main event.

482
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Speaker 9: In the nature of time, we'll move it on to

483
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Speaker 9: the co main event, the biggest win of the career

484
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Speaker 9: of the Ecuadori and Marlin Chito Vera by TKO over

485
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Speaker 9: Sugar Sean O'Malley, who obviously got injured in the fight,

486
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Speaker 9: but hopefully that does not take too much shine away

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Speaker 9: from Cheetoh, who takes Sean O'Malley's oh in a big way.

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow, what do you.

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Speaker 3: Think, my goodness, what a performance from Cheeto, You know,

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Speaker 3: I thought that sugar Sean O'Malley was doing a good

491
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Speaker 3: job earlier in that flight. He was good, doing really

492
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Speaker 3: well with his feints as he typically does, keeping the

493
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Speaker 3: proper range. But Cheetoh is another one of those guys.

494
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Speaker 3: You knew he was not going to go away. Cheeto

495
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Speaker 3: can't have a tendency of getting off to a little

496
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Speaker 3: bit of a slow start. He was able to adjust

497
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Speaker 3: a little bit and you saw him hit that That

498
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Speaker 3: calf kickfects that peronial nerve, uh, and that affects your

499
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Speaker 3: ability to you know, pflection, both plantar reflection and dors reflection.

500
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Speaker 3: And I think that really affected O'Malley at the end

501
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Speaker 3: of the day. You look at him tried to trying

502
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Speaker 3: to step. We've seen it with Henry s Judo before.

503
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Speaker 3: It affects your ability to flex your foot and get

504
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Speaker 3: rooted to the mat, and I think that's what happened.

505
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Speaker 3: He stepped, he put all his weight on his toes,

506
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Speaker 3: he you know, sprained his ankle and from there O'Malley

507
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Speaker 3: was highly compromised against a killer like a cheato vera.

508
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Speaker 3: You're in trouble. He's going hunting. At that point, he

509
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Speaker 3: sees blood and he's gonna take you out. Cheeto Vera

510
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Speaker 3: did absolutely the right thing. It was unfortunate for O'Malley.

511
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Speaker 3: But let's not pretend that this was just O'Malley, you know,

512
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Speaker 3: stepping in.

513
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Speaker 2: A pothole or tripping it was.

514
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Speaker 3: It was because of Cheeto's calfkick. Those calfkicks are brutal,

515
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Speaker 3: you know, I talk about him all the time. I'm

516
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Speaker 3: glad that wasn't a very popular thing when I was fighting,

517
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Speaker 3: but that could just one kick can really screw up

518
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Speaker 3: your ability to plant your foot on.

519
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Speaker 2: The map properly.

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Speaker 9: So how about Ken Flow just dropping a perennial nerve

521
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Speaker 9: on you like it's absolutely nothing. I mean, he comes

522
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Speaker 9: from a medical family. Doctor Gus Florian is one of

523
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Speaker 9: our most loyal listeners to the Anak and Florian podcast.

524
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Speaker 4: But it's just incredible.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you sound like doctor Kenneth Allen Florian start

526
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Speaker 9: dropping perennial nerves. I am not a doctor, but I

527
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Speaker 9: have heard from one source that perhaps it's only a

528
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Speaker 9: high ankle sprain at O'Malley, which would certainly be music

529
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Speaker 9: to my ears. He had the list frank foot injury

530
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Speaker 9: and the ensuing surgery from that injury sustained in the

531
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Speaker 9: Andre Sukamtat fight. So Tyler Nolan, one of our listeners,

532
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Speaker 9: wants to know, how badly do you think O'Malley's future

533
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Speaker 9: title contention, even getting to the top five is in

534
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Speaker 9: jeopardy with the recurring injury he seems to have. I

535
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Speaker 9: can't sit here on a Sunday after the fight and

536
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Speaker 9: tell you that this is definitely a recurring injury. But

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Speaker 9: I would say for a guy who's twenty five years old,

538
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Speaker 9: who's fought five or six times in the UFC to

539
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Speaker 9: have two of those fights and in some part because

540
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Speaker 9: of an injury, it's not ideal, can flow. I mean,

541
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Speaker 9: this is a setback, and I think mentally it's gonna

542
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Speaker 9: be a big hurdle.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I'm not gonna pretend to be a medical

545
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Speaker 3: expert at all.

546
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Speaker 2: I am definitely not one.

547
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Speaker 3: But I will say that, you know, for O'Malley, here's

548
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Speaker 3: a guy that's only almost six foot tall and he's

549
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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five pounder. You know, he's not

550
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Speaker 3: a guy who's built, Yeah, I don't know, like a

551
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Speaker 3: short squat you know, guy like a Daniel Cormier for example.

552
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Speaker 3: You know, he's lanky, and sometimes those guys can be

553
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Speaker 3: susceptible to injury. For Sean, you know again, he's just

554
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Speaker 3: gonna have to go back the proper rehab and ready

555
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Speaker 3: for that. I think it's just the nature of the

556
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Speaker 3: calf cake more than anything else. Cheto Verry did a

557
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Speaker 3: great job of identifying that, lending it hurting O'Malley and

558
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Speaker 3: you know, when you're built a little bit for lanky,

559
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Speaker 3: you have to be better as far as how you

560
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Speaker 3: take care of yourself. I guess you know there it's

561
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: doing the pro prehab and all that stuff. But even then,

562
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Speaker 3: it's just the sports brutal man. You get hit, you

563
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Speaker 3: get hurt.

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So for Marlin cheeto Vera and I'm trying to not

566
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Speaker 9: be too repetitive, but I had a drink with him

567
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Speaker 9: when he was one and two in the UFC after

568
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Speaker 9: the Davy Grant fight in London. He thought he was

569
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Speaker 9: gonna get caught. He wasn't sure what was going on.

570
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Speaker 9: I assured him that was not going to be his fate.

571
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Speaker 9: But now here he is, todd with TJ. Dillashaw as

572
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Speaker 9: the most prolific finisher in UFC bantamweight history. He's finished

573
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Speaker 9: I think eight of his nine UFC wins or nine

574
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Speaker 9: of ten at this point. Bro, I mean, I would

575
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Speaker 9: certainly stop at calling him an overachiever, but it's incredible

576
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Speaker 9: to think that this is a championship level fighter and

577
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Speaker 9: contender right now. I mean, am I overstating it? Like

578
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Speaker 9: I'm excited to see what he can do against the

579
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Speaker 9: top ten. He's got a lot of tools, a lot

580
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Speaker 9: of good coaches.

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Speaker 3: He really does, man, and that's why I felt like

582
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Speaker 3: he was a guy that you can't sleep on.

583
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Speaker 2: You know, Cheeto really does have a lot of skills.

584
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Speaker 3: He continues to get better, and with the improvement of

585
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: his skills, you're seeing a maturation and I think a

586
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Speaker 3: confidence that he just didn't have from a few years

587
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: ago when we originally had him on the podcast when

588
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Speaker 3: he was early in his UFC career. And he's one

589
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Speaker 3: of those nice guys who had to deal with a lot.

590
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: He takes pride in being able to provide for his family.

591
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Speaker 3: A guy who moved from Ecuador now living in southern

592
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Speaker 3: California has been able to provide an amazing life for

593
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Speaker 3: him and his family. It's just an awesome story. You know,

594
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Speaker 3: these are the kind of story, feel good stories that

595
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Speaker 3: you want to have in mixed martial arts. Cheeto is

596
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Speaker 3: a guy who I do believe will go very far

597
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Speaker 3: in this sport. I think this is just the beginning.

598
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Speaker 3: I think you look at the way that these guys

599
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: were meeting up, something big was going to happen. One

600
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: of these guys was going to really elevate, and Cheeto

601
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: just seemed like he was in the right spot to

602
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: steal everything that O'Malley had worked for. Cheeto also has

603
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: taken that long road, and when you see two fighters

604
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Speaker 3: that are coming up in this fashion, you can't ignore

605
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: the dude who's been there for a long time, and

606
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: Cheeto has been working hard for many years. A lot

607
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: of times we look at undefeated records and how quickly

608
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: guys are finishing other guys, but that's yes, that might

609
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: be a sign of skill, but it might not be

610
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Speaker 3: the sign of the kind of gameness and longevity that

611
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: you look for at a mixed martial arts fighter. Cheeto

612
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 3: has that, and I do believe he's gonna make that

613
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: run up to the belt, I truly do. I don't

614
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: know if he could pull it off, but man, don't

615
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 3: doubt him. He's very determined. Right now, he's confident, he's

616
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: speaking like he truly believes it, and that is a

617
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: dangerous guy.

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Speaker 4: That's well put.

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Speaker 9: He's an emotional guy, but as I said on the broadcast,

620
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 9: he certainly doesn't fight emotionally. I mean, he was so

621
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Speaker 9: locked in during fight week, and I could go on

622
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 9: and on right fifteenth UFC appearance. He's still just twenty

623
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Speaker 9: seven years old. He's never been finished. One of the

624
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 9: hardest workers in the game. Eats clean is in a

625
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 9: championship mindset. Three hundred and sixty five days a year.

626
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 9: He probably works out three hundred and fifty days a year.

627
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 9: You know about his daughter, obviously, his eldest daughter of

628
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 9: three kids, who had the mobius syndrome and couldn't smile

629
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Speaker 9: because she couldn't use those muscles in her face. And

630
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 9: he was able to finance the surgery and now she

631
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Speaker 9: can smile.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Cheeto Vera is on top of the.

633
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Speaker 9: World, and I couldn't possibly express how happy I am

634
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 9: for that young man. On the other side, it's obviously

635
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 9: a setback for O'Malley. You know, I love to talk

636
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 9: about these setbacks. You lose a fight, it's like a

637
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 9: two or three year setback, But we'll see where Sean

638
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 9: O'Malley goes from here. There's no doubting the ability, but

639
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 9: health is now part of the narrative with him, not

640
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 9: unlike a Domina Cruz whose injuries sort of intervened later

641
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 9: in his career. This is really something Sean's going to

642
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 9: have to deal with. You got anything else on the

643
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 9: Komain or can I move on to Biggie Boy?

644
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Speaker 2: Let's do it man Arvonio rosenstrike.

645
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Speaker 9: I just felt like this was such a smart, methodical,

646
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 9: counterattacking effort out of him, and this is a scary individual.

647
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Speaker 9: You know, after this fight, I was thinking, you know what,

648
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 9: now I understand why he called out Francis and Ghana,

649
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 9: because you know, if he fights like that and just

650
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 9: sort of gets on a bicycle for the first sixty seconds,

651
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 9: you know, maybe that rematch is competitive.

652
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Speaker 4: What do you think about Biggie Boy?

653
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Speaker 3: You know, listen, this is a guy who clearly has

654
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Speaker 3: the kind of power where he can knock out anyone

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Speaker 3: in that division. You can get the sense that he

656
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: was really trying to take in what Junior des Santos

657
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Speaker 3: was doing. He was computing, he was analyzing, and then

658
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: he kind of once he figured out, you see him

659
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Speaker 3: kind of start to walk forward more and more confidently,

660
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Speaker 3: looking for that counter shot, looking for shots to who

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Speaker 3: to hurt Junior de Santos. He ended up doing that.

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Speaker 3: It was a brutal knockout. This is a guy that

663
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Speaker 3: is extremely dangerous and doesn't have a whole lot of experience.

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Speaker 2: But with every fight.

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Speaker 3: Man, he's getting better and gaining more momentum and confidence.

666
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Speaker 3: He's one of those guys I don't think a whole

667
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Speaker 3: lot of people want to fight right now, and getting

668
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Speaker 3: a win over a legend like Desantos is definitely going

669
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Speaker 3: to get him a lot of fans and get him

670
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Speaker 3: a lot, you know, get him noticed.

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Speaker 2: By a lot of different people.

672
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Speaker 3: So awesome way to come back there for rosen Strike,

673
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Speaker 3: who suffered one of the more brutal knockouts there in

674
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Speaker 3: the hands of Francis and Gano. You don't always know

675
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Speaker 3: how a fighter's gonna come back, and he was a

676
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Speaker 3: little hesitant early on. I said, oh, man, has he

677
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Speaker 3: changed since that since his fight against Agano was not

678
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Speaker 3: the case.

679
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Speaker 2: He got it done.

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Speaker 9: Tough to see mister congeniality Junior DeSanto suffer a third

681
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Speaker 9: consecutive loss. I know he came in sort of talking

682
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Speaker 9: about these championship aspirations and sort of felt like he

683
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Speaker 9: might be a dark horse to make a second run.

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Speaker 9: But this is obviously gonna make that a distant proposition

685
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Speaker 9: for him. How about Daniel the Pitt Paneda over Herbert

686
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Speaker 9: the Blaze? Burns always nice when the guy who makes

687
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Speaker 9: weight beats the guy who doesn't, right, But for Daniel

688
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Speaker 9: pineda cut from the UFC unceremoniously at twenty eight years old,

689
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 9: comes back at thirty five. He's got more than forty

690
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Speaker 9: pro fights, little baby at home, nothing really amounting to

691
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Speaker 9: a training camp, but a lot of veteran savvy, a

692
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Speaker 9: lot of ability. Twenty seventh pro win flow, twenty seven finishes.

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Speaker 9: What else can you say?

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Speaker 2: That's unbelievable?

695
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Speaker 3: And Pinetta has always been one of those guys who's

696
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,920
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697
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Speaker 3: brings it. But again, this was another guy in Panetta

698
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Speaker 3: just that just seemed different. Even when he was in

699
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: some really tough spots, you could see it in his eyes,

700
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Speaker 2: He was not gonna go away.

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Speaker 3: And I think for Burns, I don't know whether it

703
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Speaker 3: was whatever happened leading up to that weight cut, but

704
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Speaker 3: he just kind of ran out of gas man and

705
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Speaker 3: Panetta was just kind of getting started, and man, when

706
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Speaker 3: it was his turn to step on the gas, he

707
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Speaker 3: did exactly that. The ground and pound was brutal, The

708
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Speaker 3: escapes was the escapes were beautiful. Once he was able

709
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Speaker 3: to get positioned with that crucifix. Dude, he never let

710
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Speaker 3: Burns back in that fight. And again that's at I

711
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Speaker 3: guess a high level Brazilian jutsy black belt and Herbert

712
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Speaker 3: Burns just massacred a man on the ground, which is

713
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Speaker 3: that much more impressive. And it's a great story when

714
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715
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716
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Speaker 3: different dificult for a fighter to keep that confidence and

717
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718
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Speaker 3: It's just a totally different mindset. The way you get prepared,

720
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721
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722
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723
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Speaker 2: I want to make another run.

725
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Speaker 3: The fact that he was able to do this at

726
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Speaker 3: Patata seems like one of those nice guys and good

728
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729
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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna put a whole That's what I want.

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 2: What is.

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Speaker 8: So?

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Speaker 9: I saw you yesterday in Vegas. You're already back in

801
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Speaker 9: Garden City of New York. What you go straight from

802
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Speaker 9: JFK to the gym so you could get your fake mustache?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing?

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Speaker 5: I was so upset and bring my mustaches with me

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Speaker 5: to Vegas. Dad, I had to do this.

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Speaker 2: This one.

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Speaker 5: This one goes out to Heidi Dean. Is there a

808
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Speaker 5: nicer person in the UFC than Heidi Dean?

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Speaker 9: Yes, no, John Best, She's the best. And she has

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Speaker 9: rush on our our video producer, Cody Marrow.

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Speaker 5: I think, oh Cody Merrow, Oh man, we're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Have to fight.

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Speaker 4: So all right, it's great to see you.

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Speaker 9: I told our listeners before you came on the air

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Speaker 9: that I got to touch your hair in Vegas, which

816
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 9: was my highlight.

817
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Speaker 4: A So, dude, how about this Morob Dwallish.

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Speaker 9: Willie and I mean you and him going back to

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00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 9: back in that corner between rounds two and three. This

820
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 9: has got to be the most energetic fighter in the UFC.

821
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 9: He's got to have the best cardiovascular strength of any

822
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 9: fighter in the UFC.

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Speaker 4: You're right up there with it.

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Speaker 9: I'm really excited to see what the future holds now

825
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Speaker 9: that I finally got to see him fight live for

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Speaker 9: the first time.

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Speaker 4: You got to be pretty happy.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, man ecstatic about Morob for a couple

829
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: bunch of reasons. But I think when you meet him,

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Speaker 1: you see the sincerity and the humbleness and the honesty.

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Speaker 1: Is anything that comes out that guy's mouth, he just

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Speaker 1: I think he answers perfectly from the heart, and that's

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Speaker 1: not easy to do. But I think when you come

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Speaker 1: from humble beginnings like he did, he's just so grateful

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Speaker 1: and appreciative of anything. Just have to go to the

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: extra mile for this guy. But I will say it's

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Speaker 1: the first time I was ever stimied in the corner.

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Speaker 1: John was with him. Yeah, I didn't know he Kenny,

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Speaker 1: I've never experienced this.

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Speaker 5: He was so hyped up in the corner. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I'm I short circuited, I'll be honest.

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Speaker 3: One of the greatest thing, one of the greatest things

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Speaker 3: I've ever seen, was you know serious mm A journalist

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Speaker 3: Tommy toehold Uh.

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Speaker 2: He tweeted this, if cocaine was a person.

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Speaker 3: It would be Morob Dullish Philly Kenny. The most perfect

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Speaker 3: tweet I've ever read. So shout out to Tommy toallhold. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: well that's got to be.

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Speaker 5: Accurate and very insightful. I'm gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 1: I questioned that Matt, I go something, Kenny. I went

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Speaker 1: to say something, and he started and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell just happened? Is out

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Speaker 1: of control? Even he listened the games, so the game

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Speaker 1: plan was this. I think he see this is a

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Speaker 1: problem because there is like a little language barrier's getting good.

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Speaker 5: I think he held to the game plan too much.

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Speaker 5: When I wanted to dev and he was like, I

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Speaker 5: love the game plan.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to such a game planner.

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Speaker 5: I don't much change it.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about Oh no, I'm telling you John,

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Speaker 1: it was you were there, but I've never experienced that before.

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Speaker 5: And the guy he just shut me down. He's like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: Because what I love about him is look, if you

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Speaker 1: go back and look at his fights, he's always making improvement.

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Speaker 1: So the game plan really was don't rush in. He's

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Speaker 1: not going to do anything to you if you don't

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Speaker 1: over extend yourself. And that little blitz he had, we

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Speaker 1: had a couple of things for that that he didn't do,

872
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: but he was never in any that. He was never

873
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: in any harm. And I think Morob realized the importance

874
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: of this fight. And it is a big name. This guy,

875
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: like a game, comes from humble beginnings. He knows the

876
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: guy for for the time. He could have very will

877
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: won the title that first fight, very close fight, knocked

878
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: out a lot of good people. They'll is shore. You know,

879
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: he's just coming off and knockout. He's a tricky, tough guy.

880
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: So for Morob to remain that patient, uh, for a

881
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: guy like him who's jacked up on cocaine, Like yeah,

882
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean you know, that's like telling the guy on

883
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: cocons you slow it down a little bit.

884
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: Can you take it down and not?

885
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: And the guy's just racing all over the place. Now,

886
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: this was insanity to the max.

887
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: If you need a shtick, If you need a shtick,

888
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: you should should kind of have him on like like

889
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: some kind of a chain, like you're holding him back

890
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: from the gun as he walks out and then just

891
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: like unleasha, that's what that's what you should do. But listen, man,

892
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: that's the first time I've ever seen someone with a

893
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: wrestling heavy game plan.

894
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: Uh take it to John Dotson like that. I mean really,

895
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: you know you do.

896
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: You see Dotson kind of struggle like that and get tired.

897
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 3: But I think Dawson was kind of waiting for Morob

898
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: to get tired and slow down and allowing to get

899
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: the timing to land those shots. And it just it

900
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: just never happened. I mean, Morob's just not stopped, dude.

901
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

902
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll tell you dots and again if he

903
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: if he's he's waiting for you.

904
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 5: You know, if you just stay busy.

905
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: I just want him to be busier than Dodson, which

906
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: isn't hard to do, but busy and not get in

907
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: trouble because has if you go back and look at

908
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: his piss fights. He does have a tendency to start

909
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: rushing in and that's where Dotson was is, I believe

910
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: is the most dangerous.

911
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 5: Yes, you know what I mean, So.

912
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: Wait for that countershot.

913
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he really listened during the camp, but

914
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: I did try to say, come on, let's pick it

915
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: up just a little.

916
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 5: I mean I could.

917
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: My other thing was maybe he could eat those shots

918
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: and wouldn't even phase them. I don't know, but if

919
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: you run in blind, you know the shot you don't

920
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: see gets you. And that that was what I was

921
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: worried about. I when I went in to just deviate

922
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: a little bit, noot, he reiterated what I was telling him.

923
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: Like for the last two I mean, it's Kenny crazy,

924
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean literally crazy.

925
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 9: It's crazy that he ended up two for twenty on

926
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 9: his takedown attempts and was just so dominant overall. And Dodson,

927
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 9: Kenny too, with just the speed and the package that

928
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 9: he brings to the table to raise point, is just

929
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 9: a tricky guy to fight.

930
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry about that.

931
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 9: So Ray in terms of morob ceiling, right, so you know,

932
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 9: he was two for twenty on his takedowns. But I

933
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 9: think that's sort of neither here nor there. I mean,

934
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 9: he was totally dominant. I gotta think you're super encouraged

935
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 9: given this matchup, given how tricky it is, given how

936
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 9: fast Dotson is, given his credentials in the UFC. I

937
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 9: know you coached the number one contender in this division,

938
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 9: but I just feel like morob is going to be

939
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 9: like among the most avoided guys at thirty five.

940
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: Well, look, you did ask me that I think the

941
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: under oble was going to be twelve, I said, on

942
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: the so we knows he's hard to keep down. But

943
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: if you could blend it in and make the guy work,

944
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: even when he did to him against the cage, you

945
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: must have landed twenty knees to the back of his legs.

946
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: He was kicking his caff. I mean he was beating

947
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: him up, you know, in a different manner than we

948
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: used to see him. But he definitely, uh, he made

949
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: him pain. You could see that Johnson was wearing down

950
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: in the third. So if that's a five round fight,

951
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: that's a nightmare because the other guy could just keep going.

952
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 5: So I really loved what I saw. I loved the patients.

953
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: I love the intelligence again, I love the corrections he

954
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: he's made from the first UFC fight, Remember Ricky Simon,

955
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: he was jumping over him. He was like a wild man,

956
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: you know. But now he's he's a little more patient

957
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: and now when he gets his hands on you, it's

958
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: not You're not going to get rid of him that easy.

959
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: So uh and I love the relationship between him and

960
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: al Joe. And again al Joe, you know he really

961
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: meantors that guy. Yeah, and with that, I do want

962
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Pomie and another guy Wilson.

963
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 5: Uh is that better?

964
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 8: Oh?

965
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: Sorry to have lost your video.

966
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: So but he had.

967
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 5: To have this kid, Pumi Nakuda, which is kid's fantastic.

968
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

969
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: I think I introduced you to him when you saw him,

970
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: but look at look at the size of him and

971
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: the height for Dodson was perfect and he's that kid's

972
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: definitely gonna go somewhere very shortly.

973
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 5: And he had another uh I think Albanian guy Wilson.

974
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: Uh oh man, I'm blacking out on his last name,

975
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: but another South poort heavier than him. So he had

976
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: power and he had speed for this campany again, he

977
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: followed the game plan really to a t uh and

978
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: it was just uh, it was.

979
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: It was.

980
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: It was fascinating look and I think again the I

981
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: think the relationship he has with al Jo to me

982
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: is similar to Kane and DC.

983
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 5: You know, they just push each other.

984
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: They both compliment each other in different ways, and I

985
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: it's just it's just really nice to watch.

986
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: It really was.

987
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: If you go back and listen to his interviews after

988
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: the fight, I think he'll be really impressed. He's like again,

989
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: he's always just he does the right thing. He's just

990
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: a great kid.

991
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 9: He is a great kid, and he is of many

992
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 9: Georgians who are really making their presence felt in the UFC.

993
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 9: And if he didn't have such a great nickname, the Machine,

994
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 9: I think you could call him Cocaine personified.

995
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if the UFC would let you do that.

996
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 9: Can you imagine like saying the number fifteen ranked pantam

997
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 9: weight contender cocaine personified, Rob.

998
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 5: I think I got it, robbed the cocaine cow boy.

999
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: Yes, right, he said I got definitely one hundred percent

1000
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: drug free. So I don't want to go down that route,

1001
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: but I got to tell you, Tommy toe Hold, I

1002
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: agree with the guy one hundred percent whole. Kenny I'm

1003
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: telling you, when I went into it the first time,

1004
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: this is great.

1005
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm like else, Oh man, he's sitting there,

1006
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: he's how am I doing? Am I doing?

1007
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was screaming at me in the

1008
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: corner on how what at the time he was having

1009
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: He loved the game plan.

1010
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: He's that high off of life.

1011
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: I love you know, That's what I'm saying.

1012
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: Never seen that guy in a bad mood, Kenny ev

1013
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: I would that would actually screw me up if I

1014
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: saw him down in the dumps. He's just I don't know,

1015
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: you don't he just kind of love the guys. It's

1016
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: so it's a he's refreshing in this day and age.

1017
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 5: He really is, you.

1018
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: Know of you know, people at a narcissistic and entitled

1019
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: to everything. You know, It's just it's a crazy world

1020
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: out there. Here's a guy just thanking. Everybody's so fortunate

1021
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: to be doing what he loves to do. And that's

1022
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: the way it should be.

1023
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know.

1024
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: I think we could all learn from him, I really do.

1025
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: So.

1026
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 5: It was a great creus, a great great night.

1027
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 9: I'd be curious to hear from our listeners at Anna

1028
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 9: Florian Pod who has the best gas tank at MMA

1029
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 9: right now? I know it's sort of hard to quantify,

1030
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 9: but when you look at the offensive output of a

1031
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 9: guy like Morob Dwallace Squilly, find me a better gas

1032
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 9: tank in MMA right now than Morob. I mean maybe

1033
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 9: there are guys on his level. I'm not sure there's

1034
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 9: anybody better. Hey, so they I'll show you out of

1035
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 9: the arena pretty quickly after the win.

1036
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, oh right out.

1037
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 9: So in terms of Steep and DC, do you go

1038
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 9: back to your hotel room and watch it there?

1039
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: How did that play out for you?

1040
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, we went back to the hotel. We just caught that,

1041
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 5: right we So he has to do media after that.

1042
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: So when we were in the media room, we asked

1043
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: to stay if we could watch the Sugar fight Sugar,

1044
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: O'Malley and.

1045
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 5: Veri fight, and then uh.

1046
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: We took a you know, they have a limo that

1047
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: takes you back to the hotel and we watched the

1048
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: DC fight, which was a great fight.

1049
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: Great fight. What'd you think?

1050
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 5: I thought?

1051
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: You know, I think it was you know, close, but

1052
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: the score was definitely correct.

1053
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 5: I think, sure, yeah, I mean it, but I don't

1054
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: think the score was.

1055
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: Indicative of what a back and forth fight, it was,

1056
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: but I think you had to give the rounds to

1057
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: steep thing. I mean, he really he looked sharper on

1058
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: the boxing. But man, I tell you I had to

1059
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: off the DC. And I tell you this detached rentner

1060
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: and the eye poking. What a shame I mean for

1061
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: both guys, because you know, Uh, Steve A got poked first,

1062
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: right in the first round.

1063
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, man, I hope this doesn't affect it.

1064
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: And then d C got poked and it looked like

1065
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: that definitely affected because you know, he said he I

1066
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: know in the interview he said he couldn't see he

1067
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: see him black.

1068
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: So that that's gotta suck.

1069
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 6: Man.

1070
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: When you got a big guy like Steevee in front

1071
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: of you, you know, who knows how to punch and

1072
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: leverages shots, and you can't see that's thing, So listen

1073
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: the guy.

1074
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 5: Look. I love both guys.

1075
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: Obviously steeve A I'm closer to, but uh at DC's

1076
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: just got nothing. But I mean that's a Hall of

1077
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: Famer and his resume is second to none, you know

1078
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1079
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 5: So I think the guy's done it all.

1080
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: Uh, and he's got acolodes that nobody else is ever

1081
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: going to get probably.

1082
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, so, uh, I know you didn't stick around for

1083
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 9: Mazuki fighting this weekend, but I'm still here in Las Vegas.

1084
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see her fight.

1085
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.

1086
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 5: I mean I was twelve days I was I was strung,

1087
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 5: really have to get back. It was a you know,

1088
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 5: and I'm.

1089
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Gonna tell you I got I started feeling sick the

1090
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: afternoon of mirage, so I was telling Matt, They're gonna

1091
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: have to mike you up.

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00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 5: I didn't think I was making it.

1093
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was, you know, now, really good now,

1094
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: and then your mind starts going on you. So I'm going,

1095
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: holy shit, I made it ten days. I'm gonna I'm

1096
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: gonna get hammed now.

1097
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 5: And I don't know.

1098
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I just pulled it to uh pulled it together at

1099
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: the last minute.

1100
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 5: Somebody got me uh a little uh rectal problem. So

1101
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 5: somebody got me some emodium and say.

1102
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I brought three pairs of underwear and three pairs of things.

1103
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 5: What I was going through all of them? Man, I

1104
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 5: was like, this is I was broude.

1105
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: I get that I'm asking a diarrhea is a sign

1106
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: of COVID thinking, I you know, my head is out

1107
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: of out of control, and then of course everything started.

1108
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: Uh you know, it was tiptoeing around, but uh between

1109
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: feeling like that morob hammer of me.

1110
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 5: In the corner with enthusiasm, I didn't know what to do.

1111
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: This is the content we need right long ago.

1112
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 9: Thank you for that. Yeah yeah yeah. People say I

1113
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 9: need to go on the Joe Rogan Experience. What we

1114
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 9: really need is Ray Longo talking about his ray.

1115
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: Uh, throw a couple of throw a couple of bombs

1116
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: out for our audience.

1117
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 9: I have I have cussed an awful lot today, ray

1118
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 9: if lot today.

1119
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: All right, always great to have very long ago. Here

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00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 4: on the Anik and Florian Podcast.

1121
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 7: It's the Main Event Challenge.

1122
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: And time is most definitely.

1123
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 3: High face. How do you everything possible to win?

1124
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 7: It's the Main Event Challenge, John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

1125
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 4: Oh, it's time for the Main Event Challenge.

1126
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 9: We are joined by the duck Ian Parker on social media,

1127
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 9: Ian Parker m m A. So it was ninety nine

1128
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 9: to ninety fourteen Florian Team Annick, of course, was in

1129
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 9: dire need of a winning week and courtesy of Ian's

1130
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 9: pick on Marlon Cheeto vera at plus two sixty five.

1131
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 4: We indeed win the week five to two.

1132
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 9: That Cheato play worth three points in our scoring system,

1133
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 9: as many of you knows. But is now one oh

1134
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 9: one to ninety nine Team Florian still in control of

1135
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 9: the board.

1136
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: I wanted to propose a new rule to you guys.

1137
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 9: I feel like when you control the board, as in

1138
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 9: you have the lead, you should have the authority to

1139
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 9: pick second. So I don't know, I'm gonna have Ken

1140
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 9: Flow pick second on all three of these. We can

1141
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 9: take that conversation off the air. But Ian, I feel

1142
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 9: like if you have the lead, you should be able

1143
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 9: to pick seconds.

1144
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: So he's a champion.

1145
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 8: But yeah, no, I no, no, I agree with you.

1146
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 8: But I agree with that statement like four weeks ago.

1147
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 8: Terrible rules. How about we just Kenny, you just don't

1148
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 8: even have to pick. You could pick after the fight. Yeah,

1149
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 8: how good I am?

1150
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: After all right?

1151
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1152
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 9: Out of two people, I want to pick third. We're

1153
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 9: gonna do all right, So wait, will table. We'll table

1154
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 9: the new rule at least for now. But Ian, it's

1155
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 9: Stan Arbison that you could have the lead as early

1156
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 9: as next week. All right, let's make some picks at

1157
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 9: UFC Fight Night Moodios versus Edgar and then time permitting,

1158
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 9: we'll get some thought from the duck. On UFC two

1159
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 9: to fifty two, All right, Mike Rodriguez minus two thirty

1160
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 9: Marching Practneo plus one ninety. This is in the UFC

1161
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 9: Light Heavyweight division. Two guys who need to win. So

1162
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 9: Practneo had an eight fight winning streak when he came

1163
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 9: into the UFC, but off to an zero to two

1164
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 9: start in the octagon. Slow Mike Rodriguez out of door

1165
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 9: chest of Massachusetts, but just one win for him in

1166
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 9: four UFC starts and feels like the loser could be

1167
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 9: fine in a pink slip in the locker room ip,

1168
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 9: who do you have?

1169
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I won't go into this too much. In a

1170
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 8: situation where I think the loser does go home, I

1171
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 8: think Vegas has the odds interestingly correct. It's not often

1172
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 8: that you have a guy on a losing streak like

1173
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 8: this at minus two to fifty, so I'm gonna lean

1174
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 8: that way and go with uh, Mike Rodriguez.

1175
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 9: Here, ken floor, What do you think, Rodriguez Pracneo. I

1176
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 9: didn't think the line would be where it is. Any

1177
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 9: thoughts for us you think I'm gonna go against a

1178
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 9: kid from Dorchester.

1179
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: I mean, do you really think I'm gonna come?

1180
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: You didn't even have to ask me, kid.

1181
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 8: No.

1182
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: I think Mike Rodriguez is rightfully sell the favorite. I

1183
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: think he gets it done. Important fight, though, Man, A

1184
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: lot of nerves on the line, a lot on the line.

1185
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: You know, practical could could pull it off. But I

1186
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: like Rodriguez in this.

1187
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 9: One, all right, Rodriguez, the Joe Loson trained fighter, trying

1188
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 9: to produce his second UFC win. That's a feature about

1189
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 9: the comane event was to be Ovien sant Prue against

1190
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 9: Smil gamzat Goamzatov. Let me get that right, But Gamzatov

1191
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 9: is out as of late last week, and in steps

1192
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 9: four to Mma is Alonzo Menifield, who's the minus one

1193
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 9: fifty five favorite against osp who comes back at plus

1194
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 9: one twenty five. This is the Komaine will need the

1195
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 9: round and the method of victory pretty incredibly and right

1196
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 9: for Alonzo Menifield, who can easily distance himself from that

1197
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 9: Devin Clark result if he can step up here and

1198
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 9: beat the credentialed open Saint Prue in a comain event.

1199
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 9: How do you handicap this one, huh.

1200
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 8: I think if you're up money going into this fight

1201
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 8: on a betting standpoint you go with Ovin Saint Prue here.

1202
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 8: I do think Alonzo Menfield can be again who could

1203
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 8: be an absolute freak in the division. But what we

1204
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 8: saw last time is that if he doesn't land that

1205
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 8: nasty shot early, his cardio just wasn't there. His punches

1206
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 8: lose a lot of steam, all that lackic acid. Well,

1207
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 8: those those giant biceps he's got, you know, it's kind

1208
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 8: of hard to imagine him doing that to someone like

1209
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 8: open Saint Prue, who I think will be able to

1210
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 8: use his length here. I think the I can't even

1211
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 8: speak today, I'm sorry. The clear path of victory for

1212
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 8: OSP is getting this fight to the ground, and Menfield's

1213
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 8: takedown defense after the first round not impressed. So if

1214
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 8: we were like three fights down the road and he

1215
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 8: was on a three fight winning street all by knockout

1216
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 8: against guys on this stature, I would say him well

1217
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 8: all day. But as an underdog, I think OSP has

1218
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 8: value here. I think there's a huge difference in the

1219
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 8: ground game. Give me OSP round two by von Flutchoke.

1220
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 9: I gotta think that Fords, MMA's drill Sargent's safe SDE

1221
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 9: has not allowed Alonzo Manfield off the versa climbers since

1222
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 9: the end of that.

1223
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: Devin, I'm not sure it'll pay. Dividends can flow.

1224
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 9: But for Rovin Saint Prue twenty four and fourteen as

1225
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 9: a pro right now twenty two UFC fights, wanting done

1226
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 9: in heavyweight and now going back down to two hundred

1227
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 9: and five pounds and finding a guy that he was

1228
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 9: not preparing for. I'm really intrigued by the matchup. But

1229
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 9: the masses need to know who you think wins it

1230
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 9: and how do they get it done well.

1231
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: Not only do the guys at Fort Simn may need

1232
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 3: to make sure that Menafield has been on the verse

1233
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: de climber, but also you know, if you ever have

1234
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: a guillotine and you know you got Osp inside controller

1235
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: half guard, let go of the fucking thing. Please let

1236
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: go of the damn guillotine. Know your jiu jitsu, So

1237
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: hopefully he lets go of that thing. But you know

1238
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: what I like Menifield here. I think OSP you know,

1239
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 3: has never looked comfortable to me on the feet, and

1240
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: I he just he always looks a little hesitant. It's

1241
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: kind of something that was a little surprising because I

1242
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: expected him to develop into a good striker and it

1243
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: just has never been that way. It's never gone down

1244
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: that way, so for whatever reason. But I do you

1245
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 3: agree with Ian that he's gonna he could give fits

1246
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 3: if he's able to get Medfield on his back.

1247
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 2: I do think that's where OSP can win this fight.

1248
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: I do think that Menifield in his last fight was

1249
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: actually engaging in unnecessary, unnecessary grappling exchanges. I don't know

1250
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: what the heck he was doing there, doing that when

1251
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 3: you're not used to it, and doing against another guy

1252
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: who's a pretty strong grappler. I hope he learned a

1253
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: good lesson there, I do. I do think Menifield is

1254
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 3: a very dangerous, uh and heavy handed striker. I think

1255
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 3: if he's able to keep it on the feed, I

1256
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: think he takes OSP out of there in around the

1257
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: second or third round.

1258
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 9: All right, Ken flow on Menafield, did you say second

1259
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 9: or third?

1260
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you need do you need a round?

1261
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 5: Well?

1262
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: Do you need it?

1263
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: And how don't we give him both?

1264
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: Just give me both? Give me both?

1265
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 8: You know what these rules?

1266
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: So? All right? First, second or third? How's that? Yeah?

1267
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 8: I was gonna say whatever. Listen, if Manfield wins either

1268
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 8: this fight or his next fight, doesn't matter.

1269
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: All right.

1270
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 8: I knew this was gonna happen. I knew I knew

1271
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 8: this was gonna happen on a Sunday after last night's card. John,

1272
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 8: you're looking toasty. I knew these rules were to come in.

1273
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: I also get the win of it to no contest

1274
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: or drop.

1275
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, doesn't happen. It's two points.

1276
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 4: Yes, Round two, Round three? Which one would you you

1277
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: need around?

1278
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: Huh, let's go dose all right? Round two?

1279
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 9: And because uh, Parker's panties are so firmly in a bunch,

1280
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 9: We're actually gonna have you leave the main event.

1281
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 4: Can Flow if that's okay?

1282
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 9: Because I know you are convicted enough in your selections

1283
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 9: your third party track, you're not afraid.

1284
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: I got it.

1285
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 8: That's our next segment. Parker's panties, I like that. I'm

1286
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 8: not wearing any for the record, all right.

1287
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 9: So ken Flow is gonna lead the main event because

1288
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 9: I don't think he much cares to change his pick

1289
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 9: depending on what Ian might or might not do. Pedro

1290
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 9: Munos worthy of this main event showcase, by the way,

1291
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 9: minus two forty Franky Edgars plus two hundred. We will

1292
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 9: need the round of the method of victory, A little

1293
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 9: setup for you, Flow. So the last thirteen fights for

1294
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 9: Frankie have been at featherweight, where in three championship chances,

1295
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 9: one interim, two undisputed. I believe he was unable to

1296
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 9: break through, did not win the belt in a second division.

1297
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 9: Now going down to one hundred and thirty five pounds,

1298
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 9: and he's been light and managing the weight for a while.

1299
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 9: Because of course, Pedro Muno's tested positive for COVID nineteen

1300
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 9: would prevented this fight from happening on Fight Island. Now

1301
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 9: it's a five round main event. You got Munio's number

1302
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 9: five in the world. Seven of eight prior to his

1303
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 9: last fight were wins. Last fight though, all the way

1304
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 9: back in June of twenty nineteen, that was a loss

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Speaker 9: to the now number one contender, al Jermaine Sterling. With

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Speaker 9: that backdrop, can flow, Munio's prohibitively favored here against Frankie.

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Speaker 9: How do you see the main event going down?

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Speaker 2: Man, this is a tough one for me.

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: I do think that Pedro Munios is certainly going to

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00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: be the fresher fighter. I think he's going to be

1311
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: the faster fighter Brazilian jitsu black belt. He's going to

1312
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: be dangerous on the ground as well, but I think

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00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: he does most of his best work if he's able

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Speaker 3: to get on top. If he's not right into a guillotine,

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Speaker 3: I think he would definitely prefer to be on top,

1316
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: working to pass, guard, ground and pound. I think he's

1317
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: way more effective from the top position on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: As far as Frankie, he's got a ton of experience.

1320
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Speaker 3: But what I think made Frankie such a great fighter

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Speaker 3: at one hundred and fifty five pounds and also at

1322
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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five pounds to the fact that

1323
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: he had the speed advantage over most of his guys.

1324
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Speaker 2: I think that has gone at one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: five pounds.

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Speaker 3: I also think that mentally getting down to one hundred

1327
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 3: and thirty five pounds is tough. I think Frankie was

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00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: wrestling in college at like one forty nine.

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00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: So he's wrestling in college at.

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Speaker 3: One forty nine and here he is later in his career,

1331
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: and you got to cut down to one hundred and

1332
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: thirty five pounds.

1333
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: That is not easy.

1334
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: I think Frankie can do it and I'm sure he

1335
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: certainly has changed up his diet and all that stuff

1336
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: since then, since his college days. But doing it later

1337
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 3: in your career like I did at one forty five,

1338
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: like a dummy can can take its toll on your body.

1339
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: So I'm a little concerned for that. Sure, this is

1340
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 3: a tough one, man. I do think that if it

1341
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: goes to decision I like Frankie, I could see Muno

1342
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: maybe hurting Frankie on the feet. He still has some

1343
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: serious power. But man, it's hard for me to go

1344
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 3: against a legend like a Frank Edgar. I hope he's

1345
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 3: able to pull it off. Munnos is a fantastic fighter.

1346
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: Definitely wouldn't be surprised if he's able to get the

1347
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: win and do it impressively.

1348
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: But let's go with Frank Edgar.

1349
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be a motivated FRANKI Edgar,

1350
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 3: a guy who's had a lot of time to prepare

1351
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: for this one.

1352
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: Let's go with Frank J. Edgar by decision all right.

1353
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 9: Camp Flow likes Frankie Edgar plus two hundred over twenty

1354
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 9: five minutes in Parker.

1355
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 4: The floor's yours.

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is a really tough fight. Kenny pretty much

1357
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 8: broke it down, I think perfectly. The only thing that

1358
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 8: I believe here is that Frankie would be the better wrestler.

1359
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 8: But to Kenny's point, the speed is not the same

1360
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 8: factor that it was in the other divisions. It's not

1361
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 8: as unpredictable, and I don't know if Frankie can hurt

1362
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 8: Pedro on the feet. You know that in and out

1363
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 8: style in this division is very different. And I don't

1364
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 8: think Frankie is better than al Jamaine Sterling at all.

1365
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 8: And Pedro fought really well against Al Jermaine. It's hard

1366
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 8: to go against the legend. Uh And I was really

1367
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 8: thinking about going Frankie, but now that Kenny is going Frankie,

1368
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 8: I could actually take a favorite for a change, So strategically,

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01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take Pedro Pedro here. Listen, Frankie's chin is

1370
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 8: not what it used to be. He used to take

1371
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 8: a ton of damage and be able to bounce back.

1372
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 8: We're seeing that that's not the case anymore. And with

1373
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 8: this type of weight cut, to Kenny's point, this late

1374
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 8: in the career, I don't know if it's that band

1375
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 8: of a weight cut. He's always be undersized, you know,

1376
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 8: almost I think for forty five too, But it's still

1377
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 8: a weight cut. It's still somewhere where. I mean, Kenny

1378
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 8: did a crazy weightcut at the end of your career. Kenny,

1379
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 8: you should come back and go up to middleweight.

1380
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, exactly thirty five.

1381
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 8: My real question how much would Kenny have to cut

1382
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 8: right now to get to middleweight or we're gonna expose

1383
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 8: how fat you are right now?

1384
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 5: I just want to know myself.

1385
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm just under middleweight right now.

1386
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 8: I was good to say, yeah, you don't really look fat,

1387
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 8: so I fuck you. I'm way over that. But uh,

1388
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 8: way over that. But yeah, I'm gonna go Pedro here.

1389
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 8: It sucks to think that he could finish Frankie, but

1390
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go by Tko in round two. At the moment,

1391
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 8: I hate that. It breaks my heart, but we're playing

1392
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 8: a game here, and I got I gotta beat Kenny.

1393
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: So it's not a game.

1394
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 9: It's not a game. There's no way you're north of

1395
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 9: one hundred and eighty pounds right now, by the way.

1396
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 8: No no, no, no, no, no no, But I'm close right

1397
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 8: right wait you said one. Oh no, I'm a little

1398
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 8: above that, but I'm.

1399
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: Stocky now, I know. I know you're well built.

1400
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 8: I'm well built. My dad always said we got we

1401
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 8: got that neck and shoulder thing. Why do you think

1402
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 8: I sit like this for every freaking thing. It's the traps,

1403
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 8: the shoulder, the beard covers the double shin. Come on,

1404
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 8: what do you don't think I see how Kenny tilts

1405
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 8: his fucking head.

1406
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 9: I know it's up well, and I know your dad's

1407
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 9: famous quote is be the straw that stirs the drink,

1408
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 9: my man, and certainly that on this show. Before we

1409
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 9: let you go, I need your scorecard on steep A

1410
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 9: and DC. I feel like I'm talking out of both

1411
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 9: sides of my mouth when I say it was a

1412
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 9: close fight, but a clear win for steep A. I

1413
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 9: I felt. I felt that it was. It was a

1414
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 9: clear Steepe win and a lot of respects. How did

1415
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 9: you score it? Excuse me?

1416
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 8: You know I think you just said it best. You

1417
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 8: are talking on it both sides of your mouth. But

1418
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 8: this is where it makes the most sense. Here, I

1419
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 8: thought DC one round four and one round one, round five.

1420
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 8: I really didn't know who won that fight, but I

1421
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 8: watched it back a couple of times, and I could

1422
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 8: totally see why they leaned stepe Uh you know man,

1423
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 8: that I poke. I know DC mentioned that what do

1424
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 8: you say, round three or round four, but it looked

1425
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 8: like that I was already damaged prior to now. Obviously

1426
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 8: he's got he's got a corny a situation going on,

1427
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 8: so it was real that much sucks. Both guys got

1428
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 8: poked in the eye and you hate to see it,

1429
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 8: but I thought it was closer than the way two

1430
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 8: out of the three judges scored it. I don't want

1431
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 8: to get made fun of for saying how I thought

1432
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 8: the fight would have went, But yeah, I thought Steve

1433
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 8: A did win, but I didn't think it was as

1434
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 8: those first two judges scored it. And one way thing

1435
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 8: before you kick me off, I think people have to

1436
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 8: give Cheeto Vera a little bit more credit than thinking

1437
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 8: this was a freak ankle injury. I don't know if

1438
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 8: you guys are in discussed this, but if you go watch,

1439
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 8: I think it was in two minutes at fifty four

1440
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 8: seconds in that kick for sure did damage because right

1441
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 8: after that you saw Mally, you know. And this doesn't

1442
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 8: mean O'Malley sucks. It doesn't mean the hype trains the rail,

1443
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 8: you know. It just means Cheeto hit him with the

1444
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 8: right kick in the right spot and smelt the water.

1445
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 8: And when Cheeto's pissed off and you saw him, I

1446
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 8: never seen him that angry. It is what it is.

1447
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 8: O'Malley's got to get healthy, bounce back, and he's right

1448
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 8: back in the mix, no question.

1449
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, beautiful, all right, that's a wrap on

1450
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 9: this episode. We'll be back next week though, and Ian's

1451
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 9: gonna be with us next week. Of course, we got

1452
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 9: Alexander Rocktch and Anthony Smith. I believe a three round

1453
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 9: middleweight excuse me, like heavyweight main event. So the hits

1454
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 9: keep on coming. I don't see a dark week in

1455
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 9: the UFC's future. Maybe there's one on the schedule, but uh,

1456
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 9: it's gonna be a while. By the way, shout out

1457
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 9: to our VP of Live Production, Zach Candido, for putting

1458
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 9: your tweet on the air.

1459
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 4: Hih you liked that, didn't you.

1460
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 8: You know what, I'm not gonna lie you. I went

1461
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 8: to go to the bathroom and I come back and

1462
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, I'm getting a bunch of tweets

1463
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 8: and one of my buddies who's recently since watching the

1464
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 8: podcast become you know, a Bandwagon UFC fan. He writes Parker,

1465
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 8: Holy fuck man, I had to do a double ticket rewarded.

1466
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: Is that really you?

1467
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 8: I go, well, dickhead, it's Twitter and there's a picture there,

1468
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 8: and what are you talking about? He sent me the screenshot.

1469
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 8: I text John right away. I was like, you're the man.

1470
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 8: This was cool. But now my expectations are I have

1471
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 8: to be funnier than Bala Muhammad for every single fight

1472
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 8: in order to get back on Twitter. So and I

1473
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 8: will never forget that duck emoji ever again. I'm so

1474
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 8: disappointed in myself.

1475
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 9: But the other thing, the other thing too, A little

1476
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 9: at anti Florian Pod wouldn't hurt, right, duck emoji and

1477
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 9: then at anti Florian Pod. I think that's going to

1478
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 9: prevent you from getting on television now.

1479
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 8: But you know what's crazy? Is this the first time

1480
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 8: I didn't post that. I always do duck I oh,

1481
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 8: you could ask Cody. I always tagged the podcasts and

1482
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 8: both of you guys. The one time I didn't do

1483
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 8: it is the one time I got on. So my apologies, Uh,

1484
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 8: that was I didn't expect that, aren't missed. I didn't

1485
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 8: ex me to get on. What do you think I'm

1486
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 8: all we want to do is have a fucking blue check.

1487
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 8: And I'm on I'm on pay per view, so you know,

1488
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 8: I'm sorry. But zach Ndil, You're the man.

1489
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1490
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 9: Hey, wo all, good congratulations, big moment. We got to

1491
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 9: get on out of here. We'll talk to you next Monday.

1492
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 9: Thank you to our guests of course, Ian Parker and

1493
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 9: Raymond Longo. This has been a Cody Marrow production courtesy

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01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 9: of Veracity Media Group. We'll talk to you in less

1495
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 9: than a week. Thanks for everybody listening, subscribing to watching.

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01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 9: Do all those things. Tell your friends, don't text and drive,

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01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 9: try to wear a mask if you can, don't shame

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01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 9: people if they're wearing one and you don't think they should.

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Speaker 10: And uh, we'll talk to you in less than a week.

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Speaker 10: Until then, you'll fuck a.

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