1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: How Are you. 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four, and if 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: you somehow miss part or all the show, you can 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: always get it on the iHeart app. The podcast version 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show on demand gets posted shortly after four o'clock, 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: so there's no excuse. It's available twenty four to seventh, 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: and we've got much much to do. I'm going to 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: start right away because this story broke just half an 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: hour ago. The guy who attacked two women in near 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: the Venice Canals. Let's see, one of them happened on 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: April the sixth, and then a second woman was attacked 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: about an hour later. So it is today, the fifteenth, 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: is nine days ago. This guy attacks two women near 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: the Venice Canals. You know, a crazy, mentally ill, drug 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: addicted vagrant, all right, the worst kind, the kind that 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: everybody what's off the street. But Karen Bass won't get 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: them off the street. And these two poor women were attacked. 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: And what's funny is, at first they were attacked. One 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: of them was hurt pretty bad, bad enough to go 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: to the hospital. But there weren't a whole lot of 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: details about what happened and what the extent of the 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: injuries were. And then we had Tracy park On a 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: few days ago, and she's the La City councilwoman there, 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: she's my counsel woman. She's replaced the odious Mike Bonnan, 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: and Tracy was really upset and I sense that there 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: was more to this story just based on her level 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: of emotion. And now it's finally come out. This guy, 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Anthony Jones is being prosecuted by George Gascone of all people, 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: with multiple counts of forcible rape at one count of 32 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: attempted murder, and Gascone said at the news conference, these 33 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: are probably some of the most heinous sexual assaults I've 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: ever seen. The level of brutality that was engaged in 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: was very reprehensible. Now, obviously Gascon is, you know, twenty 36 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: five points down in the polls to get reelected. But 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 2: I wonder if this really, I mean, this must be 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: a vicious crime, because you rarely see a criminal Gascon 39 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: is willing to criticize and one of the most heinous 40 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: sexual assaults I've ever seen. Charges against Andrew Jones include 41 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: one count of sexual penetration by use of force, one 42 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: count of sodomy by use of force, one count of mayhem, 43 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: one count of torture, and if convicted, could face a 44 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: maximum sentence of life in prison. Now, this just broke 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: at twelve twenty five and the LA Times. What I 46 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: want to play is a KTLA report by Chris Wolfe. 47 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: This was done before the official charges were announced by 48 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: Gascon's office, so there could be some things in here 49 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: a little dated. But one of the attack victims was 50 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: speaking out for the first time in this report. So 51 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: this is KTLA Chris wolf play cut fourth and then 52 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden the canal and all of a sudden, 53 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: I just get knocked out. 54 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: I just get knocked out. 55 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Was it from behind? 56 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: I have no idea my teeth got knocked out, teeth 57 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: knocked out, but. 58 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: I have raptures here. 59 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: He hit my fast, He punched you. 60 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 61 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: Married Klein, the soon to be fifty five year old 62 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 3: victim of the Venice Canal attacker, speaks with KTLA from 63 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: her hospital bed, battered, bruised, but in many ways not broken. 64 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: A stranger jumped her from behind while she was taking 65 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: a walk near her home around ten thirty pm Saturday night, 66 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: April sixth. She's not sure about the first blow, but 67 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: says it sent her immediately into a daze. She does 68 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: remember falling to the ground and being bludgeoned, punched in 69 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: the face and head repeatedly, as well as other elements 70 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: about the attack. 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 5: I think he has tried to kill it. I think 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 5: he tried to kill it. But I very tall. 73 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: That's think she tall. 74 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: So I think they know I had hard for him 75 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: to keep you down. 76 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know the other. 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: Girl she knows in a column. 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Yes, so I don't know how she kill it? 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 6: Did he? 80 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: Do you remember him saying anything to you or just 81 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: the poundings, the beating, healing and hitting. 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 5: I just knowing that I was on the ground. That 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 5: that's like getting hit by a truck. 84 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: A second female victim was severely beaten that same evening 85 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: and at last word. 86 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: Was in a coma. 87 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: Off He's flooded the area in the following days, and 88 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: on Friday announced the arrest of twenty nine year old 89 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: Anthony Jones. Detectives say he is shown in surveillance footage 90 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: recorded near the canals of Venice. 91 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: They made an arrest, But how do you feel. 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 4: Ilish crime because I show her enough that purl the 93 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: other girl, and I hope she'm lucky that Aude. 94 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: So said. 95 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 7: Enough with the ridiculous soft on crime, defund the police, 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 7: catch and reliefs, harm reduction. Criminals are the victims policies 97 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 7: that got us into this mess. 98 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: I want predators and violent attackers to be held accountable, 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 4: have longer sentences, and just not be out on the 100 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: streets with our family members. 101 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: Mary Kleine wants to thank the LAPD for its very 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: hard work in this case. Anthony Jones was arrested last 103 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: night in San Diego. Today in Los Angeles. He was 104 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: booked on two counts of attempted murder. His bail is 105 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: set at three point two five million dollars. 106 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: Okay, And just to add to that, not only two 107 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: counts of attempted murder, multiple counts of forcible rape, as 108 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: I said, account one count of sexual penetration by use 109 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: of force, one cantosodomy by use of forest, one count 110 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 2: of mayhem, one count of torture. 111 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: This is this, This is a guy. I want to 112 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: know what his background is. I want to know how. 113 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: Many times was he caught and was he prosecuted? Was 114 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: he sentenced, did he serve any time? How many breaks 115 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: did this guy get? 116 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Because this, this, this. 117 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: Crap has got to stop. This is outrageous that this 118 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: guy was on the street twenty nine years old. This 119 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: is not somebody down on their luck. This is somebody 120 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: with extreme mental disorder and terrible drug addiction most likely. 121 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: And he's acting like a wild animal. And I don't 122 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: know which woman suffered which beating, or if both of 123 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: them had sexually been sexually assaulted. You know, The Times 124 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: is such a terrible, terrible paper, a terrible news outlet. 125 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: It I've read this story like three times and it's confusing. 126 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: One of the two said she was out on a 127 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: walk and she had eight fractures to her jaw, a 128 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: laceration to the back of her head, and facial bruising. 129 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the woman that the Channel five reporter spoke with. 130 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if she suffered a sexual assault. She'd 131 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: mentioned it in the interview. Maybe the other woman suffered 132 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: the sexual assault. Maybe both did. I don't know, because 133 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: these are half baked stories with a partial information. Maybe 134 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: the police aren't releasing it. Maybe there's some woke reason. 135 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, But by the way. It's not just 136 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: this story, it's every story. Trying to figure out every 137 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: freaking crime story. It takes about two hours and gives 138 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: you a headache. It's a jigsaw puzzle with half the 139 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: pieces missing. This is how the media covers all this 140 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: stuff because yeah, either they don't want to stigmatize the homeless, 141 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: they want to stigmatize anybody because race or ethnicity. Blah 142 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. I mean, it is absolutely frustrating. 143 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: I want this guy's record should be public immediately. I 144 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: want to know who allowed him back, if he's got 145 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: a if he's got a bad felony record, who let 146 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: him out? And then those people ought to ought to 147 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: lose their jobs. It's time heads roll. There's no excuse 148 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: for a guy like this to be on the streets. 149 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: No excuse. And you know we're gonna get to Karen Bass, 150 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: you know, is asking wealthy people to start donating money 151 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: to help the homeless. No, before anybody donates a dollar, 152 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: get these bastards off the street, put them away somewhere, 153 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: get them out. She hasn't done that yet. They're still 154 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: out there. I see them, they're inside safe crap. No, 155 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: the real crazy people. The violent people don't go into 156 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: a motel to live peacefully, and there aren't that many 157 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: that went into the motel. That inside Safe is the 158 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: most overblown pile of propaganda I've ever seen. I'll get 159 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: to that next, but we'll be on top of this 160 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: because there should be more information. I don't know where 161 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: we're going to get the information from, since nobody's telling 162 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: the truth that nobody's given a straight story anymore, but 163 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: we'll get it. Coming up, I'll talk about her Bass's 164 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: plan to loot rich people, get rich people to volunteer. 165 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 166 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: six forty. 167 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: All right, we just told you about the gas Cone 168 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: actually announced at a press conference a whole long list 169 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: of charges against Anthony Jones, twenty nine years old, who 170 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: did committed a brutal attack on two women, sexual assaults 171 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: and punching and smacking him in the head with some 172 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: hard object. Both women were really terribly injured, and he 173 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: said some of those heinous sexual assaults I've ever seen. 174 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: The level of brutality that was engaged in was very reprehensible. 175 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: This is criminal lover. George Gascone is offended. Now he 176 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: got arrested in San Diego, Anthony Jones a suspect, and 177 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: we are looking. Really, if anybody's got any information, want 178 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: to let us know what this guy's criminal record is, 179 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: because I don't see it, and I don't know. We 180 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,479 Speaker 2: got six television stations in town and the Elsi Gundo Times, 181 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: nobody seems to be digging up his background, even though 182 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: we've known about him since Friday. Karen Bass, meantime, had 183 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: her State of this City address yesterday. I did not 184 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: watch it the so I'm looking at a report. The 185 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: only thing that was mildly interesting here is that she 186 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: would like and this is the kind of thing that 187 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: gets a big headline, but it's really nonsense. She would 188 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: like wealthy people to help out with the vagrants, either 189 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: give their money or so they could purchase or lease 190 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: buildings that they can convert into units for the homeless. 191 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: Canvass wants to buy property, but she doesn't have the 192 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: money because the motel idea has hit a wall. If 193 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: you ever hear her or anybody else bragging about inside Safe, 194 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: put on your propaganda filter, because even if her numbers 195 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: are right, and I imagine that they're inflated and distorted. 196 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: She claims to have moved twenty six hundred people in 197 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: doors from street encampments. That's after a year and a half. 198 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: We've got forty six thousand people on the streets as 199 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: of as of January twenty twenty three, forty six thousand. 200 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: So if she's gotten rid of twenty six hundred, that 201 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: still leaves over forty three thousand. I don't know how 202 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: many years that would take. You're doing two thousand a year, 203 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: take you what twenty three years to cover them all, 204 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: and by then you'll have an entire generation of new 205 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: homeless people, because the old generation is probably old. They'll 206 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: all be dead. And out of the twenty six hundred 207 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: they moved indoors, six hundred they admit to have moved 208 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: back out doors. They have returned to homelessness. First they 209 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: fell into homelessness, they climbed out of homelessness, and now 210 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: they stumbled back into homelessness. Forty two have ended up 211 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: in prison. Should should be all of them? Thirty eight 212 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: have died. And she's making a pitch that these homeless 213 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: people will cost us a lot of money. Yeah, thanks, 214 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: didn't notice that, Because there's thousands of thousands of fire, 215 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: paramedic and police calls. Yes, because they cause a lot 216 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: of trouble. They're not peaceful, because they're crazy. If you're 217 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: getting if you're getting thousands and thousands of fire paramedica 218 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: police calls, then they should all be forced off the 219 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: street against their will at gunpoint if necessary. Can you 220 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: imagine a group invading a city and causing thousands and 221 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: thousands of calls that are dangerous when you're calling police 222 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: or fire a paramedics, something's dangerous as happening. But best 223 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: sits there. And her big idea is, hey, can the 224 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: rich people give us some money so we can put 225 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: them in a apartments? 226 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: Rich people? 227 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: And they found one sucker, this investor and philanthropist to 228 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. He's from. His name is Stephen Klubeck. I 229 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: guess he's got unlimited money. He actually he donated a 230 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: million dollars to her new initiative, It's got a cashy 231 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: name La for La. So Kluebeck blew a million of 232 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: his dollars and then praised Bass for her work on homelessness, 233 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: calling her a disruptor. I don't know when you leave 234 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: at least forty four thousand people on the streets, and 235 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: you got Anthony what's that guy's name? 236 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: You got Anthony. 237 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: Jones running around and nearly murdering two women and committing 238 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: brutal rapes on the women. Yeah, I guess that's a disruption, 239 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: isn't it. I just can't believe the BS in a 240 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: normal time, just Anthony Jones's crimes alone would galvanize a 241 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: government to say, Okay, enough is enough, everybody off the 242 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: streets now. Why are we paying for thousands of calls? 243 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: This is just going to go on forever. It's already 244 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: gone on forever. They're crazy people, the drug addicts. A 245 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: lot of them came from out of the state. I've 246 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: seen surveys more than half have come from out of state, 247 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: out of the city. Why do we have to take 248 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: care of them? We don't know them anything. We have normal, 249 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: no moral responsibility to take care of these people. They 250 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: chose to shoot up and do drugs, the heroine, the 251 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: fent to know. They chose to snort the meth of 252 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: the cocaine, they chose to drink. They chose this life 253 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: and they're not getting out of it. How many hundreds 254 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: and hundreds of care facilities do we have nonprofits aid centers. 255 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: Huh. 256 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: They all have smartphones. They could google homeless aid and 257 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: walk go take care of it already. 258 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: They don't. 259 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: They'd rather sit in a tent, soil their pants, shove 260 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: another needle in their arm, and we all get to. 261 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Pay for it. 262 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: Maybe we should stop showing up, stop showing up at 263 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: the police and the fire of the paramedics. Maybe the 264 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: public ought to go on strike and say nothing of this. 265 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: And then Karen Bass comes out in bloviates about her 266 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: LA four LA plan. Hey, well, the rich people throw 267 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: more money, even though you're among the highest tax people 268 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: in the world. Hey, more money from the rich people. 269 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: They're not that big a sucker. 270 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A. 271 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: Six after two o'clock. 272 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: We're going to talk with Dave Packer from ABC News 273 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: Day two of the Trump jury selection. They have six 274 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: jurors they've picked so far, and I think they I 275 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: think they called in ninety six. So far six have survived. 276 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: Trump also got fined three thousand dollars. We'll tell you 277 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: all about it with Dave Packer from ABC News, and 278 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: coming up, Michael Monks Now is with US from KFI News. 279 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: There's a case. 280 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: The city of la is accused of illegally throwing out 281 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: homeless garbage. Not only that, but doctoring the paperwork afterwards 282 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: to cover up their trace. This is actually an infuriating 283 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: story because now now the city is going to have 284 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: to pay the homeless and these these irritating homeless groups. 285 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: Let's get to Michael monks on to talk about it. 286 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: Good morning, John from downtown LA. 287 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: Good to hear from you. All right, afternoon, by the way, 288 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: in this part of town. 289 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it is the afternoon. I've been hard 290 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 5: at work on this and other stories. Afternoon, all right. 291 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 5: So you know, this is a case that dates back 292 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 5: to twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, when the City of la 293 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 5: was conducting some homeless sweeps removing some camps from various 294 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 5: parts of the city. Well, seven of these homeless folks 295 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: who were impacted, as well as an advocacy group called 296 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 5: k Town for All, determined that these sweeps were violations 297 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 5: of their fourth and fourteenth Amendment rights. And that's illegal 298 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 5: search and seizure and due process because of the materials 299 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 5: that were collected by city officials and disposed of. So 300 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: we are talking about tents, we're talking about clothing. Some 301 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 5: of the plaintiffs say that medication, a laptop, some items 302 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 5: used for jobs were taken during this and so they 303 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 5: filed suit against the city. Now this has been ongoing 304 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 5: as a legal proceeding since twenty nineteen, five years. 305 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Five years. 306 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: And as I reviewed these documents on the Federal Court 307 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 5: a website, a lot of documents, a lot of documents. 308 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: Have been filed in this. 309 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: I don't understand and I don't expect you have the 310 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: answers to all this. But if they threw their they 311 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: had their junk out on the street, right, so the 312 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: city cleans it up all they're not supposed to touch that. Well, 313 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: it's pretty cut and dried. I mean, either the junk 314 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: was there or not, either the city was allowed to 315 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: throw it out or not. What are they arguing about? 316 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: For five years they're arguing about that. But what's happening 317 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: is in the course of this proceeding. What's caused some 318 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: delays in recent months, dating back to earlier this year, 319 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: is that some of the documents, as you know, an 320 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: illegal proceeding a lawsuits, there's a discovery phase. Now you 321 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: think after five years, this may have already been done, 322 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: but that's still ongoing, so documents from parties are still 323 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: being reviewed, including documents about this case from the city 324 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: and the plaintiff's attorneys from the Legal Eighth Siety here 325 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: in LA were able to determine that it appeared the 326 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: city had altered some of those documents that were requested, 327 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: and what has been reported is in the process of 328 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: changing file formats john from like a Microsoft word document 329 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: into a PDF, date stamps and those sorts of things 330 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: were taken, and that some originals of these documents had 331 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: been modified. 332 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: Or what was the reason for the cover up? 333 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: Were they trying to cover up that they had thrown 334 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: out the wrong type of garbage? 335 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 5: The city says this isn't a cover up at all. 336 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 5: Although Judge del Fisher, a George W. Bush appointee who's 337 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: been at this a long time on the federal bench, 338 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 5: admonished the city quite harshly. She does say that, look, 339 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 5: you know, they've got a forensic examiner involved in this. Okay, 340 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: this triggered a forensic examiner to take a look at 341 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 5: all of the documents that have been submitted to see, 342 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 5: you know, wish ones have possibly been manipulated. By the defense, 343 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: which in this case is the City of la And 344 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 5: what the judge said is, you know this happened, that 345 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 5: the city concedes that this happened, and quote, the court 346 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 5: finds that the City of Los Angeles has all through 347 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 5: modified and created documents relativant relevant to the plaintiff's claims 348 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 5: during the course donation. 349 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: Do we know what they were changing other than hiding 350 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: the time stamps. Were they changing the record of what 351 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: actions they took. 352 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: I don't think we can know a lot about what's 353 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: happening in the discovery phase or what they're looking at 354 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 5: until we start to hear very specific parts. 355 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: Of the trial. 356 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 5: But what the city is saying is, hey, this is 357 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 5: standard procedure. It's not unusual for city employees to review 358 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 5: reports and documents. They want to check for accuracy, they 359 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 5: want to check for errors, they want to look for 360 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 5: the completeness of the forms, they want to look for 361 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 5: missing forms, or oh. 362 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: My god, it just takes five years, it takes a line. 363 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: It's a bunch of junk. It's a bunch of homeless garbage, 364 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: is what it is. 365 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 5: Well, the judge says that the city quote, the city's 366 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 5: conduct cannot be excused as imperfect document management. So she 367 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 5: ordered the city to turn over a Google Drive so 368 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 5: that the original documents could be reviewed, and also to 369 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 5: trail for any additional documents. Apparently that Google drive has 370 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 5: been turned over, other documents are not is this city. 371 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: In other words, the taxpayers are going to have to 372 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: pay a fine for this or throw somebody in jail. 373 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 5: Sanctions are a possibility, and that was made clear in 374 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 5: a filing that we saw from earlier this month. In 375 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 5: order I should say from the judge earlier this month 376 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 5: that because of the city's actions, the plaintiff will be 377 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 5: able to seek sanctions against the city for the behavior 378 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 5: that they've engaged in here with these documents. And apparently 379 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 5: that will be up to the plaintiff about wish wish 380 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 5: to wish sanctions to seek, and that attorney told the 381 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: La Times today that she's not yet sure wish ones 382 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 5: to pursue. 383 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: All right, very good, Michael, thank you for coming on. 384 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: Got John Michael monks KFI News. 385 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: You believe this. 386 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: So the these homeless people throw their junk all over 387 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: the place, and the city finally cleans up the encampment 388 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: and throws the junk out, which is what you do 389 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: with garbage junk. Right, This concept that you're we violate 390 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: the Fourth Amendment when we leave things out in public. 391 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: Is nuts. 392 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: We throw things around in public, then the public has 393 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: to clean it up for you. So if you don't 394 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: want the stuff thrown out, don't go leaving it on 395 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: the ground unattended. 396 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: I know that. 397 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: I know if I took stuff out of my house 398 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: and put it out on the street. 399 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna take it. 400 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna call the city to take it if they 401 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: don't steal it themselves. And then you've got these ridiculous 402 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: with the Legal Aid Foundation k Town for all these 403 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 2: ridiculous groups fighting for the right, fighting for the right 404 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: to the the for the homeless people who have their 405 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: junks strewn all over the place. I mean, it must 406 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: have been pretty bad, because we're talking twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. 407 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: City wasn't squad of that cleaning up LA back then. 408 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: They weren't clearing any encampments, So there must have been 409 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: a reason they went here. All right, we got two o'clock. 410 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: Trump's day two of the trial. They've got six jurors. 411 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna be picking juriors for a while yet and 412 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 2: he's been fined money. We'll have that coming up. 413 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI. 414 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: What has gone on in the Trump trial today? Day 415 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: two jury picking, we'll find out what. Dave Packer from 416 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: ABC News. The environmental wackos have been trying to get 417 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: human rights for for for objects in nature. I don't 418 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: know how to describe this exactly. I saw this story 419 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: the environmental radicals. They wanted right granted to the Great 420 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: Salt Lake in Utah, that the Great Salt Lake would 421 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: have legal rights, so if it was harmed in any way, 422 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: the lake would have standing to sue in court and 423 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, get damages. And you may think this 424 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: is fringe, right, not even worth discussing, except I found 425 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 2: out that thirty cities and towns in the United States 426 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: have granted rights to nature, including get ready for. 427 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: This, Santa Monica. 428 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: Santa Monica recognizes nature as having the same rights as 429 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: human beings. Not making this up, which is odd because 430 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: Santa Monica is almost entirely paved over. But I guess 431 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: better late than never. I mean, after you flatten nature 432 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: with the hundreds of miles of asphalt that you could say, hey, nature, 433 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: you have some rights. Go sue anyway. In response to 434 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: the environmental nuts trying to get rights for the Great 435 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: Salt Lake, the Utah legislators have passed a bill out 436 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: of the House saying that a government entity may not 437 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: grant legal personhood or recognize legal personhood in the following categories. 438 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: For example, a body of water like the Great Salt Lake. 439 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: See the environmental wackos wanted nature to give them the 440 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: same rights as a person. So in Utah, now body 441 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: of water cannot have rights. Land cannot have rights. Atmospheric 442 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: gases so the atmosphere cannot have rights because otherwise the 443 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: atmosphere can sue when we polluted. Artificial intelligence cannot have rights, 444 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: So fake people invented on the internet, ah, no rights. 445 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: Do whatever you want to them. An astronomical object, I 446 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: guess that's the sun, the moon, a medior that passes 447 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 2: that lands in Utah. A plant. A plant cannot have 448 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: legal personhood. So if you tear the limb off a tree, 449 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: the tree may cry. No lawsuit weather they actually did this. 450 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: Weather has no rights. Any non human animal has no rights. 451 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: Look at that. 452 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: In fact, any member, any member of a taxonomic domain 453 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: that is not a human being. 454 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: So I guess that. 455 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: Covers birds and lizards and anything else alive on the planet. 456 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: They actually had eleven different Oh, inanimate objects have no 457 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: legal personhood either. In the past, in various states and countries, rivers, glaciers, 458 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 2: and some animals have been granted rights. It's you know, 459 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: so it's a The opinion of the Utah legislature is 460 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: you have to be a human being. And as Wesley 461 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: Smith and The National Review wrote that, he can hear 462 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: now the critics saying, well, what about corporations. Corporations have rights. 463 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: Corporations are made up of humans. Their actions come from 464 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: the direction from the intelligence of human beings. It's a 465 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: it's an organized extension of what humans of what human 466 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: actions are taking place. And that's why corporations have rights. 467 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's see next hour, we're gonna have Blake 468 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: trolley on. There was a bill today that would criminalize 469 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: homeless encampments. 470 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: Hmm. 471 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: It would make it a crime for a person to say, well, actually, 472 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: that is a slanted headline. I'm sorry I read that. No, 473 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't criminalize homeless encampments. It would make it a 474 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: crime for a person to lie or sleep or camp 475 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: within five hundred feet of a school park or a 476 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: transit stop. What do you think this Senate committee did 477 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: with that bill? Senate Public Safety Committee. We'll get into that, 478 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: and then Dave Packer coming up next for ABC News 479 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: on the Trump Trial. All right, that's all I had, 480 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: and we've got Ashley Johnson live in the KFI twenty 481 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John 482 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show live 483 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: on KFI AM six forty from one to four pm 484 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on demand 485 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app