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Speaker 1: learned with a son, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. You were hearing our

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Speaker 1: friend Peter van Zante at forty eight hours. Originally ruled

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Speaker 1: murder suicide. That's tough to take in with me an

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Speaker 1: all star panel to make sense of it all with

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Speaker 1: me Jessica Sanders, private investigator clear View Investigations on the case,

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Speaker 1: renounce Psycho Ana. Let's out of Beverly Hills, doctor Bethany

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Speaker 1: Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, forensics expert Cheryl McCollum, the

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Speaker 1: now to Anne Emerson WCIV ABC for Charleston, and let's

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Speaker 1: to Katie's mom, Vicky Hall. All right, so at that point,

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Speaker 1: never came and hugged anybody. There. Was the sickest thing

427
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: I've ever witnessed my whole life. Two days after the funeral,

428
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: Aaron went in for surgery to mend his broken hand. Okay,

429
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time taking that in. Did I

430
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: understand that right? Vicky Hall, Katie's mom. He ate McDonald's

431
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: and drank out of a big McDonald's cup. Yes, ma'am,

432
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: he did, yes, on the front road at the funeral home. Yeah,

433
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: It's like he kind of guarded the bodies. He'd sit

434
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: there and eat and like nobody could get, you know,

435
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: get up there to them. But yeah, he just sit

436
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: there eating, eating French fries. A hammocker had this really big,

437
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: the biggest drink from McDonald's you can get, sitting on

438
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: that I want to get something clear regarding the timeline.

439
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: Vicky Hall, this is Katie's mom. Everybody, immediately after she

440
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: goes missing. You observe along with Sarah that his hand

441
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: is swollen up, really swollen, as she said, like a

442
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: quote monster hand. Yeah, is that correct? Yes, Okay, take

443
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: a listen to this. Sarah, remembering that swollen hand, was

444
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: convinced Aaron broke it while killing her sister. It just

445
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: made me think, like, did he hit his hand on

446
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: the train and pushing her into the train or fighting

447
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: with her. That's what made me know in my heart

448
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: in my head that he was involved. Both Sarah and

449
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Vicky say they had seen Aron's injured hand the morning

450
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: the bodies were discovered, but Alex's investigation turned up another

451
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: explanation that Aaron injured it two days later at the

452
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: funeral home when he punched a wall while choosing a coffin.

453
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: We inquired with the funeral director and she said, yes,

454
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: I witnessed him puncha send a block wall. At first,

455
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: Aaron tried to make the funeral private, tell Vicky and

456
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: her family they were not invited. Everything was a fight

457
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: from the very moment they died to have things done normally.

458
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Mother and daughter were in the same coffin. Miraculously, Katie's

459
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: face was largely undamaged, and the family wanted an open

460
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: casket for Katie. And River climb stories with Nancy, Grace, Vicky,

461
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: and Jessica say there were more damning clues back at

462
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: the house. Some stuff was knocked off a River's dresser.

463
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: There was clothes on the floor, all of these jewels,

464
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: they were all open in the whole bathroom. What does

465
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: that suggest to you? There was a fight. I believed

466
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: there was a fight and she was trying to leave him.

467
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: Do you believe that Katie Major may have died inside

468
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: her own house? I do. I think it's very possible

469
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: that she died at the house. Their house, a potential

470
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: crime scene, was never properly processed. There's no photos, no

471
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: forensics search at all. If there was a fight, that's

472
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: starting there luminal tests easy. They did nothing. Okay, that's

473
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: very disturbing. You're hearing our friends at forty eight hours

474
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: to Cheryl McCollum, From what I have learned regarding Katie Major,

475
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: her home, especially the baby's room, would never have looked

476
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: like this. Things knocked off rivers. Dresser just knocked off

477
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: clothes all over the floor, drawers were open that that

478
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. But no forensics were done at the home.

479
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand it, Cheryl McCollum. I don't understand it either, Nancy,

480
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: and there's just no excuse for it. Another thing that

481
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: goes toward them having a fight. Her wedding ring was

482
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: in her pocket. Now she supposedly drives this car and

483
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: abandons it, but there's no car keys, but her wedding

484
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: ring is the pocket That to me is indicative of

485
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: somebody that is angered. Take that ring off, like I'm done.

486
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: So there was something that should have been followed up.

487
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: To me, that house should have been combed through with

488
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: every forensic agent they had. If I could say something,

489
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: not only do they not forensics the house, they never

490
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: went to the house and looked around when their bodies

491
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: were found. There's been nothing done. Fleet Lord, take a

492
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: listen to this. Lewis and Cooke, Kenda did what Paulick

493
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: and his team didn't do. Hello talk to Katie's closest friends.

494
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: Monday Cookenda says the cold case unit has confirmed that

495
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: Aaron told the original detective a huge line a potential

496
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: game changer. That's when I heard on talk radio ninety

497
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: four point three that there had been a person and

498
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: a young child hit by the train in Berkelen County.

499
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: And I and just as Vicky had said, that was

500
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: a bold faced line. There was no radio report. There

501
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: was no radio report. Well, why would he have told

502
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: a story about hearing this report? Do you think I

503
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: think he wanted Katie and River fawn? Okay, that is

504
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: one of the single most disturbing facts to me out

505
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: of so many. First the hand was swollen like a

506
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: quote monster hand. And then later at the funeral home,

507
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: many many hours later, he suddenly hits that same hand

508
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: against the wall, thereby explaining the swelling. But this radio

509
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: report to Vicky Hall, this is Katie's mom, Is this true?

510
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: He told, and I'm talking about the husband, Aaron Major.

511
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: He said he found out about the train tracks on

512
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: the radio, but yet that never happened. Yes, ma'am, knew

513
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: he found out. He called me and told me to

514
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: go to Oakley Road that a train hit a vehicle

515
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: and two people are dead. And the radio station said

516
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: they did not say that. He told me to go

517
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: to Oakley Road. Oakley Road was never announced on the radio,

518
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: whether Berkeley County. Could you know there could have been

519
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: an announcement of Berkeley County. Berkeley County is huge. His

520
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: mistake is he sent me to Oakley Road and there

521
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: was never Oakley Road was never announced on the radio,

522
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: and there was no announcement on the radio period. When

523
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: he called me and said he just heard on the radio,

524
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: you know that there was a train hit a vehicle

525
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: and no train hit a vehicle either. So okay, that

526
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: is a huge red flag to Cheryl McCollum. In my mind,

527
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: that's one of the strongest pieces of Evans. Before it's

528
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: out there, before the bodies have been found. He, according

529
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: to Vicky Hall, is directing his wife's mother to where

530
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: the bodies are. Yet it had not been made public.

531
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: The keys to the vehicle were gone, although everything else

532
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: was still in the victim's pocket. Who drove the car there?

533
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: Who had the keys? How did he fabricate a radio

534
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: report that never existed? He knew where the bodies were, Cheryl.

535
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: Not only did he know where they were, he had

536
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: already set the stage for what happened to them. He's

537
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: already telling you a train hits them. So no matter

538
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: what you see, he wants you to accept that. If

539
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: you already heard the pis say that a cow would

540
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: be hit a hundred yards, that baby was fifty yards

541
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: from her mama, she would have gone much further. Nancy,

542
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: and somebody's punched in the stomach just with a fist,

543
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: they go forward, Their face goes forward. Her face was

544
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: without injury. The baby has no additional injury. The baby

545
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: was alive when she went in the water. Her little

546
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: loans will show that that statement alone is a money

547
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: tree and a game change with the wise cat. To

548
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: doctor Tim Gallagher, a medical examiner for the State of Florida, doctor,

549
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: how could you tell if the lacerations on her body

550
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: half a mile away from her car, we're from a train. Well,

551
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing more devastating to the human body than being

552
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: hit by a train going at the reported seventy miles

553
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: an hour. The injuries would be on every part of

554
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: her body, including broken spine, severed spinal cord. Sometimes the

555
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: intestines are then ejected from the abdominal cavity. A lot

556
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: of times the brain is ejected from the cranial cavity,

557
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, So there's nothing more devastating to the human

558
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: body than being impacted by a train, and certainly there'd

559
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: be no doubt that that was the cause of death,

560
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, in her case, you know, I'd like to

561
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: see the her injuries how to come from someplace, you know,

562
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: so it would be important to see what the pattern

563
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: of that type of injury was. But it certainly doesn't

564
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: appear to be that of being struck by a train.

565
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: We also know that Katie had just seen her doctor

566
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: the day before. Vicky and Jessica went to work determined

567
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: to show that Katie was not psychotic. They spoke to

568
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: dozens of witnesses, including Katie's obstetrician, Christine Case, who examined

569
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: her the day before her death. I do not think,

570
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: in my professional opinion, that she had any depression or

571
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: postpartum depression. Back then, Olik and his team did not

572
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: speak to doctor Case, and Vicky says would not listen

573
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: to what she had to say. She says she was

574
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: never questioned about her daughter's state of mind and what

575
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: had happened in the hours on that day that she disappeared.

576
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: How could someone not have interviewed the family about those things.

577
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't recall when she was interviewed, and they should

578
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: have been interviewed for those things. Are you darn right?

579
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Our friend Peter van zandt there's so many theories abounding.

580
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: Vicky Hall, Katie's mom. According to her own she was

581
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: not depressed. She was not having any type of psychosis

582
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: the very day before. So these stories about her being

583
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: paranoid don't make sense to me. No, they make zero sense.

584
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: I actually was with her after her ultrasound and before

585
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: her ultrasound with doctor Kase. She was so excited for

586
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: finding out she's having a baby boy. I was so excited.

587
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: Our whole family was so excited would be our first grandson.

588
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: And then she called me the night that she died.

589
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: She called me when she got home. She called me,

590
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: and I talked to her at six forty three that night.

591
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: I was driving and and I don't know what happened,

592
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: but I talked to her that night and she was fine.

593
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: When she got home, she was in the house and

594
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: she called me and she was fine. So Aaron's story

595
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: doesn't add up that she's scared, paranoid, shake and tremblin

596
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: don't want to go in the house. Tell me about

597
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: their marriage, VICKI, Yeah, they were high school sweetheart. I'd

598
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: known Aaron for ten years. They dated for five years

599
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: before they got married. They were like best friends. Aaron

600
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: was a very private man, Katie was very more outgoing,

601
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: and I just noticed changes after river Lyn was born,

602
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: my first granddaughter, where he just seemed to really be

603
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: distant himself. I was getting concerned that he wasn't bonding

604
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: with river And then Katie found out she's pregnant again

605
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: with a little boy the day before, but he just

606
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: seemed to be distant in himself. I'm not sure he

607
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: wanted the children. White she found out she was pregnant

608
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: the day before. He found of tooth having a baby

609
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: boy the day before she died. But I'm not sure

610
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: he wanted a family. I believe he wanted Katie, but

611
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he wanted the children. You know, I

612
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: was getting concerned. Okay, so I didn't realize she had

613
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: just found out the day before she died. Did he remarry? No,

614
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: he has not remarried him. From what I understand, he

615
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: has not dated another woman. What do you think is

616
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: the problem with the law enforcement. I don't understand what

617
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: the hold up is. Vicky in Berkeley County. It's called

618
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: the good O Boys system. We have a new sheriff,

619
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: a new corner, but they're all related colleague wide to

620
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: the old administration, and I feel like they do not

621
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 1: want to make changes here, change the manner of death

622
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: from suicide, because they're looking out for the previous administration.

623
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm just trying to take everything into Jessica Sanders

624
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: private investigator clear View investigations. In my mind, there is

625
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: so much evidence it was actually reopened by the Sheriff's department.

626
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: What a piece of evidence that I would like to

627
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: add is that I had found any computer records, the

628
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: same computer records that they hide back then. That at

629
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: ten am was like ten oh seven, which was an

630
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: hour and a half before Aaron called the he to

631
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: send her to Oakley Road. He had searched on his

632
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: home computer two people found at Berkeley County, so he

633
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: was already looking to find out if they were if

634
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: they were found, yes, before he ever even talked to

635
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: Victor Cheryl McCollum. This reminds me so much of the

636
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Heidi Brussard case where her friend Megan Feara mousco is

637
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: there at the delivery room and then ends up according

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Speaker 1: to police, killing her best friend Heidi Brissard to get

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Speaker 1: the baby, but before it was announced that the bodies

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Speaker 1: were found, she was looking up frantically, over and over

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Speaker 1: and over deaths in the county, bodies Heidi Broussard. She

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Speaker 1: was looking up all of that online before anything had

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Speaker 1: been said about Heidi missing. So it's very damning if

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Speaker 1: that time is correct. Vicky Hall is the timing of

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Speaker 1: the husband, Aaron Major's Google searches. I understand he was

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Speaker 1: searching for train deaths, train accidents. Was that before the

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Speaker 1: bodies were found at ten o seven am. I believe

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Speaker 1: I could have been ten h six, but he searched

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Speaker 1: on the computer Jessica found it two people dead Berkeley County.

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Speaker 1: He was searching to see if they were found. We

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Speaker 1: didn't know they were dead. No one knew except law

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Speaker 1: enforcement that they were dead. We didn't know. And then

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Speaker 1: after that he starts heading out of this area. He's

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Speaker 1: driving halfway to Columbia, South Carolina, which is an hour

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Speaker 1: and a half drive. He's halfway there when he calls

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Speaker 1: me and tells me to go to Oakley Road. So

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Speaker 1: he's getting himself out of town at the same time.

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Speaker 1: You know, far enough halfway out of town, and then

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Speaker 1: he called me and tells me what he heard on

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Speaker 1: the radio, which we've proven. What was his excuse about

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Speaker 1: why he was halfway out of town so far away?

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Speaker 1: He told me he was going to go search hotels

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Speaker 1: in Columbia, South Carolina, and it made no sense. He

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Speaker 1: was supposed to go to Somerville, a town, you know,

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Speaker 1: right in the area and look at hotels, while I

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Speaker 1: would go into another local area to look at hotels,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he starts headed to Columbia

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Speaker 1: and it made no sense. Vicky. When you speak to

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Speaker 1: the sheriff's what do they say. They led us to

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Speaker 1: believe that they were going to be moving forward on

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Speaker 1: the case up to the point of Colin Aaron the

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Speaker 1: one and only suspect to the media, and now they're

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Speaker 1: backtracking and they're not doing anything. They won't change the

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Speaker 1: ruling on the man or death. It's like they're protecting

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Speaker 1: the system. What do you make of the note in

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Speaker 1: Katy's pocket? Some people believe she was documenting her husband's

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Speaker 1: Internet searches. Yes, it looks to me like them are

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Speaker 1: titles of what you would find on the Jeremiah project,

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Speaker 1: and whether she was seeing next to him. You know

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Speaker 1: that that document, that paper only showed up the last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours that it could have been written on.

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Speaker 1: Whether she was sitting next to him as he's going

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Speaker 1: through this Jeremiah Project stuff and she's just making notes

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Speaker 1: of what he's saying, or whether she went on and

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Speaker 1: saw his search history and was writing down the titles

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Speaker 1: that he was looking at and getting concerned. What was

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Speaker 1: on the note of a woman could be the anti

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Speaker 1: Christ sacrificing a virgin baby. I might, you know, I

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Speaker 1: might not have every exact word something about Halloween, so

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Speaker 1: just titles that I know, looking back in the archivage

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Speaker 1: of Jeremiah Project, it looked like titles on there. What

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Speaker 1: about it? Jessica Sanders, I do believe that as well,

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Speaker 1: because we went on the Jeremiah Project and there is

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Speaker 1: a search bar there where you can if you type

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Speaker 1: in one thing, it'll actually drop down and show you

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Speaker 1: interesting that's been typed in there, So you know, after

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Speaker 1: that and some of the other stuff he was looking at,

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Speaker 1: we do believe that that's what she was doing. She

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Speaker 1: was worried and she was writing down the stuff. He

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Speaker 1: looked at the paper that she wrote those things on

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Speaker 1: was actually a worksheet of her brothers that had been

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Speaker 1: sacked to the home the day before. So that's how

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Speaker 1: we know that paper was fresh. It was only twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours. Was it in her handwriting? We haven't had

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Speaker 1: it analyzed, but just from looking at it, we believe

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Speaker 1: some of it is. Katie's family has never believed she

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Speaker 1: was delusional, or that she would take her own life,

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Speaker 1: or that she would murder her own child. If you

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Speaker 1: believe the case should be investigated as I do, please

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Speaker 1: call Berkeley County Sheriffs eight four three seven one nine

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Speaker 1: four four six five repeat eight four three seven one

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Speaker 1: nine four four six five. Also, if you want to

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Speaker 1: donate to help the private investigation to help Katie and

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Speaker 1: her babies get the truth and get justice, go to

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Speaker 1: her Baby's case get truth and justice. Nancy Grace Crime

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Speaker 1: Story signing off, Goodbye friend,