1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody out there hanging out with us. We get 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: ready to roll into the third hour of the program. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: We're about to be joined by former Vice President Mike Pence. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: But first some breaking news. The New York City subway 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: shooter has been arrested. The suspect in that shooting has 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: been arrested. According to multiple reports, it was one about 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: thirty hours that he was on the loose in the 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: wake of that mass shooting in the New York City subway, 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: but that has just happened in the last couple of minutes. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: He now is in New York Police Department custody. So 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: thank you to the officers there who helped to apprehend him, 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: and potentially some of you out there who may have 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: helped to let those officers know where he was some 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: thirty hours after this alleged shooting. We are joined now 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: by a former Vice President, Mike Pence, who has founded 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: Advancing American Freedom of five oh one s four organization 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: advocating for conservative values and policy proposals. And I want 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: to start, mister Vice President, appreciate you joining us. Want 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: to start here. You had your own battle over the 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: First Amendment here recently at the University of Virginia. This 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: has been a huge topic on this show. Elon Musk 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: buying nine point two percent of Twitter. What should happen, 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: what needs to happen for the full marketplace of ideas 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: to be protected in our country. And thanks to the 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: University of Virginia for letting you speak. But what are 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: you seeing as you travel around the country in terms 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: of freedom of thought, freedom of expression in this country. Well, 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: we just we've got to continue to take on and 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: challenge cancel culture welc America and you both have done 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: an extraordinary job stepping into big shoes. Now it spend 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: some time, but congratulations on your success and being such 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: great champions for conservative values around the country. But now, 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: last night I was at University of Virginia, but a 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: few weeks ago the student newspaper on campus wrote an 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: editorial saying that I should be banned. This is nothing new. 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: We've seen conservatives attempted to be canceled all across the country. 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: But I must tell you, because of the great young 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: people with the Young America's Foundation chapter on UVa's campus, 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: and frankly, because seventeen faculty members stepped forward on behalf 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: of freedom of speech, we went forward. Last night. We 43 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: had hundreds of students turnout. I think it was a 44 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: very diverse crowd. We had a great discussion, and I 45 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: said to them, I'll say to your listeners, the antidote 46 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: to cancel culture is freedom. The antidote to woke America 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: is freedom. And we need look no farther than the 48 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: Bill of Rights, we need look no farther than the 49 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: American Founding and to know the pathway forward for America 50 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: is a freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right 51 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: to peaceably assemble. It's all there in writing. And last 52 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: night I challenged them to come together, whatever their political perspective, 53 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: come together, let's rally around freedom in America and the 54 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: ideals that have made this country great. And we had. 55 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: We had a big night. And so I'm going to 56 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: continue to visit campuses around the country. Anybody that's interested 57 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: in the great work of Young America's Foundation should check 58 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: out their website, check them out on Twitter. Myself, Ben Shapiro, 59 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: Scott Walker, who leads the organization We're taking a conservative 60 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: cause the campuses, and I'm honored to be a part 61 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: of it. You should invite Clay and Bucket some point 62 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: to join you on this campus tour. We're pretty good 63 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: at that stuff there, Mike. You are on. But you know, 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: I tell you I was at Stanford. I gave a 65 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: speech at Stanford about a month ago, guys, and I 66 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: tell people, almost everybody stayed. You know, it was that's 67 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: a win. Protesters, protesters in the you know, in this auditorium, 68 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: hundreds of people outside. But you know, that's that's what 69 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: That's what freedom sounds like, right, I mean, it's all right. 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: I just we've really got to challenge woke America. We've 71 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: got to challenge the woke left in this country with 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: the fundamental principles of freedom. And I got to tell 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: you we we ended up having a great night last 74 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: night at UVA, and I'm truly grateful to the school 75 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: and really proud of the conservative kids on campus that 76 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: made it happen. I mean, Mike, this audience obviously is 77 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: with you, with us on the notion of free speech 78 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: and just individual freedom as a as a general foundational 79 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: idea for this country you live in. How do we 80 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: win though, How do we actually take it beyond knowing 81 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: that we are right, knowing that this is intrinsic to 82 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: our founding, to our most basic freedoms in this country, 83 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: to actually being able to exercise free speech rights in 84 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: a world of social media platforms, mega corporations cancel culture. 85 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen some of the things going on. 86 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: It feels like in Florida there's been substantial pushback against 87 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: those who tried to attack Governor On de Santist for 88 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: the parental rights. But you've seen other places where you've 89 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: had conservatives fight back. Elon Musk, who's not really a 90 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: conservative but a free thinker, has taken a big stake 91 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: in Twitter. What are ways it felt like at the 92 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: end of the Trump presidency, of which you were obviously 93 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: vice president, Section two thirty got a lot of attention. 94 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: I think that that's faded a little bit, and now 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: it's just how do we win back the culture? How 96 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: do you think we do that? Well? I actually think 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: we'd do it just the way you describe. First and foremost, 98 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: I think we've got to speak out on behalf of freedom. 99 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: I talked to some young people on campus last night 100 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: who feel a little put upon being conservatives in a 101 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: largely liberal student body and largely liberal faculty. They said, 102 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: what do you suggest I said, speak up and smile. Right. 103 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: It was one of the great things about your predecessor 104 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: on this program, who was an inspiration to me and 105 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: the millions of Americans for decades, is you know, he 106 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: was a conservative, but he wasn't in a bad mood 107 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: about it. You guys are the same, right. Let's we 108 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: have the right ideas, let's go out and advocate them. 109 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: It was part of why my organization in Washington set 110 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: up what's called the Freedom Agenda. People can go to 111 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Advancing American Freedom dot com. We worked with people like 112 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: nud Gingrich and Kelly and Conway and Larry Cutlow, and 113 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: we literally assembled a comprehensive agenda of what conservatism is 114 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: all about, from Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump, and it 115 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: gave us a place to really go and remind ourselves 116 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: and what our positive agenda is. But at the end 117 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: of the day, the real answer, guys, is what Vince 118 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Lombardi said, Sometimes, you know, there's no substitute for just 119 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: going out and winning the ballgame. And we got big 120 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: elections this fall and I'm campaigning around the country supporting 121 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: great conservatives running for the House and the Senate, running 122 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: for state house seats and governorships. And I'll just tell 123 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: you it has maybe never been more important in the 124 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: life of this nation for us to elect men and 125 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: women at every level who can stand for freedom. And 126 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: I know the millions of listeners of your great broadcasts 127 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: are going to do just that. We're talking to former 128 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Vice President Mike Pence. I think you probably expected things 129 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: in the Biden and Kamala Harris administration would be bad. 130 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Are they worse than you anticipated they would be? I 131 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: thought it'd be bad. I never imagined to be this bad. 132 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, President Joe Biden has done more damage to 133 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: this country in fourteen months than any president in modern history. 134 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, think think about where we are. A crisis 135 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: at our southern border, gasoline prices seventy percent, inflation at 136 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: a forty year high, the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan that 137 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: clearly emboldened our adversaries around the world. North Korea is 138 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: firing missiles again, Iran is threatening their nuclear program again, 139 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: and of course we're continuing to watch the horrifying Russian 140 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: invasion of Ukraine, and I just I think that that 141 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: all of it, all of it cries out for people 142 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: that believe in this country, people that saw a strong 143 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: and prosperous and secure America during the Trump Pens administration, 144 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: to be willing to step forward and get behind candidates 145 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: that are going to make a difference. But look, we're 146 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: going to get it all back. People stopped me an airport, 147 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: and they stopped me on street corners all the time 148 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: with a worried look on their face. And I just 149 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm an optimistic guy, but I'll tell 150 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: you from everything I see is I travel across this coach, 151 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: we're going to get it all back, and then some 152 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna win back to Congress in twenty twenty two, 153 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: and we're gonna win back America in twenty twenty four. 154 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you this one, former Vice President Pence, 155 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us year. By the way, as always, 156 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: you know Vice President Pence Clay It was actually interviewed 157 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: him on my mom's birthday and he did a quick 158 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: happy birthday video for my mom, which was like the 159 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: coolest birthday president I was ever able to give anybody. 160 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. 161 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, sir. I always remember that, you always 162 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: remember people who do nice, nice things out in the world. 163 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: But I want to know, what do you think the 164 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: Democrat play is. I'm gonna be talking about immigration here 165 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: in a second. What do you think the Democrat play 166 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: is for just essentially flooding the country with the legals entirely. 167 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: I know the long term reality of they want amnesty, 168 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: they think these are Democrat voters. That's going to enlarge 169 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: the state. I get all that, But between now an 170 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: election data end Title forty two and to put us 171 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: on track for a million in six weeks, possibly not 172 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: in six months, six weeks, it just feels like electoral suicide. 173 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Is it just they're so incompetent they can't figure out 174 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: how to stop it. They can't stand the way the 175 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: left wing base or or what you know, their mind. 176 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? The President Donald Trump put border security 177 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: at the center of the national debate, and in three 178 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: short years we reduced illegal immigration at our southern border 179 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: by nine We built hundreds of miles of border wall 180 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: that the Biden administration, you know, stopped the day they 181 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: came into office, I negotiated with Secretary of State Pompeo 182 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: on behalf of the president what came to be known 183 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: as the Remain in Mexico policy, where we got we 184 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: got Mexico to agree that people that are applying for 185 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: asylum wait in Mexico while they apply literally ended asylum 186 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: abuse at our southern border. Day one, President Biden gets 187 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: rid of remain in Mexico, even though it's been challenged 188 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: now in the courts, they're being ordered to put it 189 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: back into effect. That the very idea that they've announced 190 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: that they're going to resend Title forty two, which allows 191 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: us to return illegal immigrants immediately across the border, it 192 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: makes absolutely no sense. I mean, we literally are seeing 193 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: record numbers of people coming across the border every day. 194 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: The number number about a week ago is about eight 195 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: thousand people a day. But I actually, I actually read 196 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: in the New York Times one official estimate that after 197 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: they repeal Title forty two they expect that to go 198 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: to eighteen thousand people a day now once their play here. 199 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: I look, I think you're giving them too much credit. 200 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: I think it's an open borders crowd. I mean, we 201 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: know that a nation without borders is not a nation. 202 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they buy that. I think they are 203 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: an open borders crowd. They're an amnesty crowd, and I 204 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: don't think I mean, certainly some of them may think 205 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: of the long term implications of that, but I think 206 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: the reality is in our administration, we made enormous progress 207 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: in growing support among Hispanic Americans. We said, we've got 208 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: the largest percentage of votes from Hispanic Americans in twenty 209 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: twenty that any Republican ticket in history, and that's because 210 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: we stood for law and order. We stood for border security, 211 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: we stood for free market economics, the American dream, the 212 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: right to life, traditional values. So I don't don't I 213 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: don't know if they're thinking the long term play. I 214 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: just think they're open borders people. And you need to 215 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: understand what's happening down there is not a result of incompetence. 216 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: It is the designed work of a left wing open 217 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: borders agenda that is driving the Democratic Party and the 218 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration today. Mister Vice President, I'm sure you've seen 219 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: fifteen day extension on federal mask mandate for airplanes and 220 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: airports and trains and everything else. Can you look back 221 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: now it's been a little bit over two years since 222 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: fifteen days to slow the spread. Doctor Fauci is still there, 223 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: directing a lot of the guidelines and national response. Should 224 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: he still be there? In your mind? Is he one 225 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: of the most, if not the most destructive bureaucrat in history? 226 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: How do you assess him? I know you know him 227 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: well personally, but two years after the fact that we're 228 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: still extending things for fifteen days, what are your thoughts? Well, 229 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you that day in the end 230 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: of February twenty twenty, when President Trump asked him to 231 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: leave the White House Coronavirus Task Force, we only had 232 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: a handful of COVID cases in America and no fatalities. 233 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: But I'll always be proud of the way the people 234 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: of this country responded. You know, we reinvented testing from 235 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: a standing start. We developed billions of supplies for doctors 236 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: and nurses and the American people. We develop therapeutics and 237 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: in record time developed not one but two vaccines, and 238 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: we'vevaccinating a million people a day along the way, in 239 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: the midst of that historic pandemic. In those early days, 240 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: we stepped forward and we asked the American people to 241 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: essentially take a pause for as you said, first for 242 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: fifteen days and ultimately extended another thirty days so that 243 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: we would have time to stand up the largest national 244 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: mobilization since World War Two. But I must tell you 245 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: lockdowns were never intended to be a long term solution 246 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: to COVID. I mean, it was what we intended to do, 247 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: and we did. I mean, I grieve for every life 248 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: that was lost in that first year. I'm saddened that 249 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: more lives were lost in the first year of the 250 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: Biden administration of COVID. But I think it's a testament 251 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: to the American people that no one, no American ever 252 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: went out went without a hospital bid, no one ever 253 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: went without a ventilator that needed one. But it was 254 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: because we bought time at the begin beginning. But in 255 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: my season of service in the COVID task Wars, I'll 256 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: tell you we had a broad range of people at 257 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: the table. We had we had the doctors there, but 258 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: I also had the our economic people like Larry Cudlow. 259 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: I also had the Secretary Treasury, Stephen Nutche. We balanced 260 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: and developed a balanced approach, made recommendations and let governors 261 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: and states and local communities decide what was best for them. 262 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: When the Biden administration came in, I think they put 263 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: the doctors in the lead chair, and to no surprise, 264 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: we got the doctor's prescription ever since and the heartbreaking 265 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: results in their first year. We really speak for themselves, 266 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: mister Rice President. We so appreciate you coming to join us. 267 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: What's your initiative again? The name of it, Yes, it's 268 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: called Advancing American Freedom. 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And if nobody else will say 338 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: it again, thank you because we got police officers all 339 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: over the country who listen, and I will say. One 340 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: of the consequences of the overwhelming rise in violent crime 341 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: is a lot of people are looking around and saying, hey, 342 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: maybe we should be praising police instead. Of arguing that 343 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: we should defund them and that they're awful human beings, 344 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: like you're saving an inordinate amount of lives by doing 345 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the job that you do and you don't get any 346 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: credit for it. So we want to make sure that 347 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: we continue to support you guys when many are not 348 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: doing that. We bring in now a former New York 349 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: City resident, Carol Markowitz, who's been covering this New York 350 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: City subway shooting. I've seen you tweeting about it, Carol, 351 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: what have you heard from the people that you have 352 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: been talking to? We talked, began the show. She's not 353 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: with us yet, but we began the show by playing 354 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: you some of the violent racist videos that are out 355 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: there from this alleged shooter. I'm glad that he's been captured, 356 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: but I am curious Buck, how exactly this is going 357 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: to be covered by the media. Is it going to 358 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: be memory hold like what happened in Wauka show when 359 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: the SUV mode over everyone. Is it going to be 360 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: covered and kind of disappear like the BLM shooter in Louisville. 361 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: We now have Carol Markowitz. Carol, appreciate you joining us. 362 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: What are you hearing? We're talking about the New York 363 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: City alleged subway shooter being arrested. What have you heard 364 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: about the investigation that is going on there? So I I, 365 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: you know, I had known that they picked him up 366 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: today in the East Village, and I don't know what's 367 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: going to happen, you know, going forward, but it's a 368 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: very interesting case where they have known about him for 369 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: a while and he was on their radar. I'm looking 370 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: forward to hearing what happened here. But yeah, from what 371 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm told it was, it was not somebody unknown to 372 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: them caroling authorities, Carol, you know, the Governor HOCl went on, 373 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: some of New York went on some long winded you know, 374 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: this will never happen again, and there's been too much, 375 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: and it honestly just felt sort of bizarre. I mean, 376 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: if nothing else, she's making promises that she clearly cannot 377 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: keep without any ideas or policies or anything behind it. 378 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: It just feels like this is this is a woman 379 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: who at a moment of real seriousness, real crisis in 380 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: New York City, which is what is going on here. 381 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: This place is rough. It's why you left, It's why 382 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: many people are considering leaving. She is not up to 383 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: the moment. It felt like yesterday at all. It felt 384 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: really tone deaf. I completely agree. The thing is look 385 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: a lunatic. You can shoot up a place, that can 386 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: happen anywhere. The fact that it happened on the entering 387 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn yesterday's obviously very sad and horrible. But what's 388 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: really going on is that this crime spree in New 389 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: York City is really serious. So last night there was 390 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: unstabbing on the subway that you know is barely getting 391 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: any coverage, and these stabbings happen all the time now, 392 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: so we have a situation where, yes, this obviously this 393 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: event is atrocious and horrible, and my heart really goes 394 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: out to all New Yorkers. I still consider myself a 395 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: New Yorker. I feel very strongly about that city. But 396 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: what we're really missing is that the subway in disarray 397 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: and the city is in disarray. And so just targeting 398 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: or focusing on this one event by the governor, I 399 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: think that she's really miss seen the mark because these 400 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: stabbings are happening all the time and nobody's stopping them. Carol, 401 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: you had a You've continued to talk about the freedom 402 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: that you have in Florida compared to what's going on 403 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: in New York. I'm sure you've seen Philadelphia has reinstituted 404 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: an indoor mask mandate. Kids ages two to five, basically 405 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: in preschool are still required to wear masks in New 406 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: York City, which is crazy. And as we began the 407 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: show today, a fifteen day extension of masks in airplanes 408 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: by the Biden administration and the CDC. How does this 409 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: ever end? Buck and I were talking about this. I'm 410 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: curious what you think. Are we basically going to enter 411 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: into a world where ten or fifteen percent of people 412 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: wear masks forever? Because at this point, I don't know 413 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 1: how this ever ends. Yeah, I also don't know how 414 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: this ends because two weeks obviously, who believes this is 415 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: going to end in two weeks? Like two weeks to 416 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: flatten this curve again. I think we're in a crisis 417 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: because there's this mania that has taken hold, and people 418 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: have become so afraid of COVID and so terrified to 419 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: live their lives, and thinking that, you know, the masks 420 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: that they wear on an airplane is going to make 421 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: an iota of difference is terrifying. I think we really 422 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: need to move away from this mass hysteria. But of 423 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: course all these blue areas are really catering to it. 424 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want to sound like, you 425 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: know when all you have a hammer the whole world 426 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: and nail. But I think a lot of these issues 427 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: that we're having across the country are all related. So 428 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: when we talk about violence on the subway, I really 429 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: do think it's still COVID related. When you have a 430 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: masked to year old, you're sending the message that the 431 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 1: city remains unsafe due to COVID. So people are not 432 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: returning to the offices, and they don't return to the 433 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: office as the subways are emptier. When the subways are emptier, 434 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: crime is more likely to happen. When crime is more 435 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: likely to happen, it lends an atmosphere of chaos, and 436 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: that's what we have right now in a lot of 437 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: major cities. And I think all of this it could 438 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: just be tied back to an insane and intense COVID 439 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: mitigation policy. That speaking Carol Markowitz, New York Post columnist, 440 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: friend of the show, Carol, it feels like a huge 441 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: difference maker because we talk about accountability a lot here 442 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: and Clay talks about a reckoning in the midterms, a 443 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: tsunami of Republican wins. And this isn't just I like 444 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: my team to win, It's I want America to go 445 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: back to normalcy, like I want an end to the 446 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: psychological pandemic. And the only way we get there is 447 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: if Democrats get destroyed at the ballot box, and therefore 448 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: their power is contingent upon no longer catering to the 449 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: double massed lunatics walking around by themselves outside looking at 450 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: people breathing air like normal human beings, like they're the problem. Parents. 451 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: I just think it's so essential that parents remember who 452 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: betrayed them and children during this pandemic. Do you think 453 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: that are enough Republicans making this case? And what can 454 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: we do? I think there needs to be a huge 455 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: campaign to remind parents all across America and places that lockdown, 456 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: shut down schools, who is responsible for that madness? Who 457 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: bent any of the teachers' unions? How do we do that? 458 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: How do we make sure that all the parents remember? Yeah, 459 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: you know, I hope that Republicans all across the country 460 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: are running on these issues. I'm not sure that they 461 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: all of them are I think, especially in kind of 462 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: blue cities, it gets tougher and tougher for them to say, 463 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, we should have had schools open. A lot 464 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: of people in these blue cities agree with them. And 465 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: as you watch migration to places like Florida, you know, 466 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: I can't help but think that, you know, Florida's getting better, 467 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: but places like New York, New Jersey or where people 468 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: are coming from are getting bluer. There's conservatives who are leaving. 469 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: I have not met a single person who has moved 470 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: to Florida in the last two years who has been 471 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: on the left. All of them are conservative. All of 472 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: them have left places with crazy policies and moved to freedom. 473 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: So as these places get bluer, I worry that these 474 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: insanees are going to continue. Like yeah, in purple places, 475 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: they might be able to send a message with the 476 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: next election and say, look, you did crazy things, We're 477 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: going to punish you for it at the ballot box, 478 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: and maybe that'll shift some opinions. But in place of 479 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: like New York City, people want this, people like the 480 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: asking it. I don't see a large ground swell of 481 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: people saying it's insane that we masked two to four 482 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: year olds. Nobody else in the world is doing this. 483 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this? There's so few people that 484 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: protested it. Really, it scares me to the future. Carol, 485 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: You're a mom and I've got three kids, and back 486 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: in August, as all of this sort of domestic terrorism 487 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: rose up at school boards, you could feel the budding 488 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: anger and I think that definitely fueled what happened in Virginia. 489 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: And to your point, if people hadn't bailed on New Jersey, 490 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: maybe Murphy would have lost there. Right, A couple hundred 491 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: thousand people could have made a big difference. A lot 492 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: of those people have relocated to other places. Do you 493 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: think the mom anger is going based on the people 494 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: that you interact with and you talk to, is going 495 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: to retain its cogency and fire through this November election 496 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: so that we get what Buck and I want. I 497 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: think what you want as well, which is a reckoning 498 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: on COVID policies. Or is it going to fade in 499 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: the next six to seven months. How do you see 500 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: it playing out? No, I think through November and absolutely 501 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: stage sky high. There's so much wrong right now with 502 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: the country that I think that parents will be sending 503 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: a message parents will happen last two over it the 504 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: fact that, for example, in New York City, private schools 505 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: opened but public schools didn't. They're not over this kind 506 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: of thing. They're not over at Randy Weingarten. Uh, you know, 507 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: perhaps that kept schools closed. I hear, thank you. You're 508 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: you're breaking up a little bit there at the end, 509 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: but you're always fantastic. You're hacking her phone. I think 510 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: I think they're afraid of the mom revolution and they're 511 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: trying to take out one of the moms there. But 512 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: Carol does fantastic work. New York Post will talk to 513 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: her again soon. Heading into the break here, I want 514 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: to tell you about Hillsdale. You want to talk about 515 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: how to make a difference. Too many people around the world. 516 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: They see America as a nation of free people from 517 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: all walks of life, representing all nationalities and all colors, 518 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: a melting pot, one term we often use. We define 519 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: ourselves as American with pride, but more and more of 520 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: us have started defining ourselves by sex, race, and what 521 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: divides us instead of what unites us. Doctor Victor Davis 522 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: Hanson has has some thoughts on this and some suggestions 523 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: his work is renowned and well regarded. He's partnering with 524 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: Hillsdale College on a new online video series on this 525 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: very topic, free for you to watch and learn from. 526 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: New courses from Hillsdale and American Citizenship will inform you 527 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: equip you to restore the parts of our nation's conversation 528 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: that need attention. You can go. You can sign up 529 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: for free. Encourage you to do this at Clay Buck 530 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: four Hillsdale dot com. You'll learn about topics like the 531 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: history of citizenship, the deep State, even the Great Reset. 532 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: Please sign up today to take Hillsdale's free course at 533 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck four Hillsdale dot com. One more time, 534 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: that's Clay and Buck four Hillsdale dot com. We are 535 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: closing up shop here and Clay in Buck for the 536 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: day and parting is such sweet sorrow from all of you. 537 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: But we'll be back with you tomorrow. So thanks for 538 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: hanging with us. If you happen to miss our discussions today, 539 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: some of our fantastic guest Merinda Divine of the Hunter 540 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Biden Laptop latest there. I mean she I don't know, 541 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: does she get like if you guys get a Porterhouse, 542 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: does she get the filet? And you get the New 543 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: York Strip or whatever, because she's sounded like she thinks 544 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: he may actually hunter Biden may may get hit with charges. 545 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm still standing strong. The Bucks are over here. I 546 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: think they're gonna They're gonna give him an out somehow. 547 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: But we'll see. We need to get together a good 548 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: group because eventually, when I'm able to go, I can 549 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: go into restaurants to get in New York City. Right, 550 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm back to being able to people. Say so, First 551 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: of all, she should get I know that these journalism 552 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: awards are total crap, and you can just look at 553 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: Russia collusion and the amount of Pulitzer Prizes that were 554 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: given for stories related to that which all were lies. 555 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: The New York Post and Miranda Divine in particular. Buck 556 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: they should go back and take away all of the 557 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Pulitzers that they gave to all those idiot Russia collusion 558 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: stories and retroactively give the New York Post and Miranda 559 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: her clitzerists for Democrat activists who write and call themselves 560 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: journalists to give other Democrat activist kudos for helping the 561 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: Democrat party. That's actually why the Pulitzer exists. Now, I 562 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: don't want to go full the office and create the 563 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Dundee Awards or anything. But should we create with Clay 564 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: and Buck, actual awards for actual people doing good work? 565 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: You know we could give I'm just tossing out some 566 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: nominees Alex Barrenson, who's banned on Twitter. If you really 567 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: look at speaking truth to power and wanted to award 568 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: someone Alex Barrenson, Miranda Divine, Like, why wouldn't we create 569 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: the CNB Awards and actually give an award for people 570 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: who are in the face of great uh? And by 571 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: the way, these could be college kids who speak out. 572 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there's this. Can do this the clayon Buck Awards. 573 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: You know we could we could give out something. You know, 574 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: you could give out a pair of golden cowboy boots. 575 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll give out a scarf of some kind, or a scooter, 576 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: a gold plate, an electric scooter. I mean, this is 577 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: not an awful idea, is it? Like every summer we 578 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: could do our own awards presentations for people who actually 579 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: spoke truth to power and made contributed to the larger 580 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: national discourse. Just so you all know who are listening 581 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: all across the country. Clay and I basically sit around 582 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: and try to come up with excuses to throw big 583 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: parties where we can hang out with you our listeners. 584 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: We're just like, it would be fun if we went 585 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: to this place. We basically got as many people. What's 586 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: is that going to happen? Are we gonna do the 587 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: event in New York? Yea happen. It's happening. Yeah, we're 588 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: partying NYC. Stepping into Bucks Thunderdome here, Travis, get ready 589 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: for it? Well, it's the one year anniversary of the 590 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: show coming up, so and I can actually enter into 591 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: restaurants and uh and and professional establishments in New York 592 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: again because I still haven't gotten to. Although it is 593 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: funny me if we had Fauci on, I would love 594 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: for Fauci to get asked, if you know, if someone 595 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: so far has not gotten a COVID shot, do they 596 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: need to get six? Like? What is the what is 597 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: the official CDC perspective on? Like me, I think they 598 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: shot one. But I think what's fascinating is that means 599 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: you're at the oldest version of the vaccine, which is 600 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: most likely to be out of totally totally worthless. You're 601 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: you will get the spirit airlines do they can you 602 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: even get? Is the J and J shot Now, is 603 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: it sort of like a Nintendo we like? Is it 604 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: a collector's item you get on eBay? Do you know 605 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: what I mean? Because I don't even know if you 606 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: get a J and J shot anymore? Well? And can 607 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: I am I basically getting if I wanted one? The 608 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: COVID fast pass where like all of you guys had 609 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: to stand in line who got the COVID shot and 610 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: you're like four or five in a row now, and 611 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: then I just show up and I'm not gonna get it. 612 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: But if I wanted to, could I cut ahead of 613 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: the line and I only need to get one shot? 614 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: And I just kind of look back over my shoulder 615 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: and wave at all you guys with your five five shots. 616 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer, I legitimately don't. I do 617 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: not know anybody who has not gotten the shot up 618 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: to this point who has decided to enter the shot factory, 619 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. I don't know anybody 620 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: who's done it. I just love to know what the 621 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: official CDC perspective is for people who have never gotten 622 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: a shot. How many shots do they need? Still? Good question? 623 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't even know, don't. Yeah, I don't think what 624 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: is international travel like if I want to go if 625 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: I want to go to the Caribbean, and I, you know, 626 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: do I have the J and J are they not? 627 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be like, excuse me, sir, the Spirit 628 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: airlines of vaccines. It's not accepted on this idyllic island. 629 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: Remember when I told you I was going to go 630 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: to Columbia, the country, not the Columbia, you know, like 631 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: in there's like fifty different Columbia as you can travel 632 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: to inside the United States, including in Columbia, South Carolina 633 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: and Columbia, Missouri, both great college towns. But um, I 634 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: was gonna go, but you're required to have the COVID 635 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: shot to get to Columbia. And they said, oh, we 636 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: can get you in. And I told you this off air. 637 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: I guess I could say it now, like the last 638 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: thing I want to do is get stuck in Colombia 639 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: over lying about getting the COVID shot. And I don't 640 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: want to be in some Colombian prison because they probably 641 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: put there. I don't want you know, you in Colombian prison. 642 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: Although I will say, Clay, you know that this audience, 643 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: we could we could pull together a rescue team here 644 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: that would make the a team blush Man. We could 645 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: probably if we put out if we put out the 646 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: Clay and Bucks signal out in the sky like the 647 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: bat signal, we'd have you broken out of any hell 648 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: hole anywhere in the earth within within five days. I'm 649 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: telling you this Crewdasis as an attorney in the US 650 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: Virgin Islands. That's where I started practicing law and licensed 651 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: here in Tennessee too, where I live now. But I 652 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: repped criminals inside of prisons, and based on what a 653 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: Virgin Islands prison looks like, I cannot even imagine what 654 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: some of these tropical Colombian era prisons look like. It's terrify. 655 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, prison is nowhere is fun, but some of 656 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: these tropical, like country prisons. Have you seen locked up abroad? 657 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: It's always some British guys who's like I was in 658 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: Paradise and then I'll decided to make a little extra 659 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: money to send back to the UK by sending some 660 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: hashish through my bag and then I got caught. It's 661 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: always like, oh, that's not I was inside of those 662 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: Virgin Islands, you know, Caribbean prisons. I was like, oh, man, 663 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine being stuck here, and I can only 664 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: imagine how bad things would have been in Columbia. So 665 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: I didn't go because I didn't get the shot up 666 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: talking about the worst prisons to go to. At the 667 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: end of the show, it's quite a ride here playing Bucket. 668 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say, never know what we're gonna end up 669 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: talking about. Thanks for hanging with us. More greatness coming 670 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow twelve noon, nine am Pacific. Coming Sleet, Travis and 671 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.