1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have one of 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: my favorite people here at John Solomon. He is an 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: award winning investigative journalist and the founder and editor in 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: chief of Just the News plus the host of John 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Solomon Reports. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: John, Welcome back to the program. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: Good to be with you, Tutor. 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: So you have so much going on, and we'd already 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: talked to some folks about Russian collusion, and it was 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: funny because in those interviews they're like, oh, well, John 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Solomon's been reporting on this for years, and I was like, yes, 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: I need to have John Solomon come on and tell 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: us all about. 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: This because you have all the history. What's going on? 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'll remind everybody how I got involved with 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: Sarah Carter on unraveling the Russia collusion story, because when 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: it first broke in October of sixteen, I was told 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: flatly by senior FBI officials it wasn't true. Don't make 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: a big deal out of it, It's not going anywhere. 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: In fact, one of the senior officials I talked to 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: use the term no big there there, which Pete Struck 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: would later use in his text messages when they became 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: publicly disgraced that FBI agent. But in March of seventeen, 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: I did break a story on unmasking that in the 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: last year of the Obama administration there had been this 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: explosion of Obama officials unmasking the conversations during the election 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: of Americans that had been accidentally intercepted by the NSA. 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: You're not supposed to do that. We're supposed to have 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: the protection of civil liberties. You normally need a warrant, 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: but they had this back door called unmasking, which is 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: you can ask to see it, and if you want 32 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: to know who the American is that we intercepted, you 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: just get the name, and it basically eviscerates our civil liberties. 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: And it had gone up by hundreds of percent in 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 3: the last year of Obama. It was a very important 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: civil liberty story from my standpoint. Sarah and I got 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: off television that night it was March of seventeen, and 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: I drive home and I pull into my driveway. It's 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: about ten o'clock in nine ten thirty. It was about 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: ten thirty at night, and there's a blue government car 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: sitting outside my driveway with its parking lights on, right 42 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: by my mailbox. I pull in. Two guys get out. 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: They're clearly gi men, and they say you John Solomon, 44 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: and I said, yes, I am. And hey, we saw 45 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: what you were reporting on today and we want to 46 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: let you know it's the tip of a very large iceberg. 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you guys talking about, Like, well, 48 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: most of it's classified. I'm like, well, that doesn't help me. 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: And they said something that now which drove my reporting 50 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: and Sarah's reporting and everyone who's worked on this with 51 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: me over the last seven or eight years. They said 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: something that now I understand how profoundly serious it was. 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: They said, the intelligence community and the FBI were used 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: to carry out a political dirty trick using the most 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: awesome tools that the American people gave us. Were only 56 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: supposed to use them to fight counter terrorism and counterintelligence threats, 57 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: but we use them to carry out a dirty trick, 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: and you need to expose it. And they gave me 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: no more detail. 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: By the way, So you came home and these guys 61 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: are outside of your house like you're onto something secretly, 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: they come to you. 63 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: That's what happened. And they said one last thing, and 64 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: I went right downstairs to my basement office. I said 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: I said hello to my wife, goodbye. My wife went downstairs, 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: and I typed up everything because I didn't have notes 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: at the time. I typed up everything I could remember, 68 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: and I sent an email to Sarah Carter and that's 69 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: what started us. But the last thing they said is 70 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: the most profound thing, which is if Americans find out 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: how we misused and abuse these tools, they will take 72 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: these tools away from us, and we will no longer 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: be safe from the real terrorism threats and the real 74 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: counterintelligence and spy threats that you ask us to protect 75 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: you from every day. And that was profound. I don't know. 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: They never gave me their names, they didn't tell me 77 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: their agencies. I have a theory that they worked for 78 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: a very specific spy agency that wasn't the CIA. But 79 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: that is what started us out. And when you look 80 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: now eight years and I probably a couple hundred stories 81 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: of mine later, you now see that that's exactly what happened. 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: That Barack Obama's told in late July twenty sixteen that 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton is going to hang a fake, dirty sh 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: on Donald Trump's house called Russia Collusion. It's a dirty trick. 85 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: They intercepted it, and Barack Obama and John Brennan decide 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: we're not going to stop the FBI and the CIA 87 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: from going down this path. In fact, we might right 88 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: alongside them and give it credits and credibility even though 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: it's a bogus, dirty trick. And that meant misleading the 90 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 3: FISA court. It meant misleading the American public in an 91 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: official intelligence product of the United States called the Intelligence 92 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Community Assessment. It means launching a special console investigation by Mueller. 93 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: It means a filing false FISA applications on multiple occasions. 94 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: It means when that goes AWRYE And now you've created 95 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: a modus operandi of the government saying whenever Donald Trump 96 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: does something, we can just take a fing shingle on them. 97 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: That means in Ukraine, impeachment is manufactured through a whistleblower 98 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: complaint for which I think there are significant accuracy issues. 99 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: And then it means in twenty twenty, when Donald Trump 100 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: is trying to say there are I'm concerned about the 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 3: integrity of our election, and we get a China report 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: saying China's making fake driver's licenses in Michigan to do it, 103 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: you look the other way. You don't investigate it because 104 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: it might help Donald Trump. And then in twenty twenty 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: two you might be going to mar A Lago and 106 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: investigating Donald Trump for classified documents because you know that 107 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: Joe Biden has a problem and you want to neutralize 108 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: that problem. Now you look at that continuum and you 109 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: understand why those guys who came to my driveway that 110 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: night were so concerned that if it didn't stop in seventeen, 111 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: it might become something that we never would be able 112 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 3: to put the toothpaste back into the intelligence too. 113 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: Well, but have we really because there hasn't been an 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: really haven't been officially exposed. 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: No. And by the way, the temptable what's the penalty 116 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: for doing all the things that we did. There's been 117 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: no real penalty. Some lawyer had to plead guilty to 118 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: a crime and he got a slap on the wrist 119 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 3: by Judge Boseburg. No one else's but yees. Some people 120 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: got fired, some people lost their penn then they got 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: a settlement after they lost their pension. I mean, people 122 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: have failed up in this continuum and the temptation to 123 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: keep doing this in the future, to manipulate future elections 124 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: using the psychological operations, intelligence and counter terrorism tools. It's 125 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: as attempting now as it was in sixteen when they 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: crossed that rubicon. I think we're at a watershed moment. 127 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: If there isn't some significant accountability soon, I think this 128 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: is going to become the norm, not the abnorm, of 129 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: normality in the intelligence community and the America we know 130 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: is not going to be the same. 131 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: And the intelligence tools. Is this like listening in on us? 132 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Oh, it's effisive, right. It's the ability to spy at 133 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: every aspect of a person's life. It's the ability to 134 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: unmask a conversation that you intercepted without a warrant. It's 135 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: the ability to create illusion. I mean, look at how 136 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: brilliant the illusion of Russia collusion was. They never ever 137 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: said Donald Trump was stooge, but they convinced it sixty 138 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: percent of America by twenty seventeen that he was a 139 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Russian stooge working for Vladimir Putin. They wrote an intelligence report, 140 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: knowing that it was predicated on the Steele dossier and 141 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: other dubious intelligence, and they declared that Vladimir Putin's intention 142 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: was to help Donald Trump win the election. People still 143 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: believe that today, thirty forty percent, and they didn't have 144 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: an iota of evidence to base that on. It was 145 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: garbage intelligence. I do think all those tools use psychological operations, 146 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: which is the ability to create the illusion using intelligence 147 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: tools of a falsehood but make it look real. Fis spying, 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: special consuls, investigations, FBI authorities, search warrants, raids on people's homes, 149 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, there are people 150 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: whose reputations will never be restored from what happened to 151 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: them in sixteen seventeen. My journalism reputation will never be 152 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: restored from the bogus allegations of my Ukraine reporting. There's 153 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: no way to fix those people's lives and reputations. They 154 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: were ruined forever, and we now know that they were 155 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: ruined for a false cause. 156 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 157 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. What can those people, including you, 158 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: what can you do now? When we spoke about this 159 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: last week, the suggestion was civil lawsuits and civil lawsuits. 160 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: I think people go, well, oh, there's no criminal effect 161 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: to that, but oftentimes civil lawsuits the loss of some 162 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: financial gain, you know, going after someone's finances and taking 163 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: that money away is a big warning sign to other 164 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: people like, oh, you know, I mean not everybody is Obama. 165 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: Some of these people don't have millions upon millions of 166 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: dollars just waiting for someone to take them. 167 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: Take it. That's it. Well, that's it. And also to 168 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: fund these lawsuits. They don't come for free, So victims 169 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: don't have the money to fight for five years against 170 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: the government that can spend one hundred million dollars trying 171 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 3: to defeat you. Carter Page tried, he lost. Why did 172 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: he lose because the best evidence that would show he 173 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: was a real victim was kept from US for five, six, seven, 174 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: eight years. The government has already won. The people who 175 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: perpetrated this fraud, they've already won. No matter what happens 176 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 3: going forward, they already won. They achieved their goals. They 177 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: convince the American people that Hunter Biden's laptop was not 178 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: real when it was. They convinced the American public that 179 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: Donald Trump shouldn't be trusted as an early president because 180 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: he was Vladimir Putin's asset. They convinced us that there 181 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: was no reason to ask the Ukrainians to investigate Hunter 182 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: Biden when there was a big reason to do that, 183 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: and they gave us four indictments of President Trump to 184 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: try to tell us you shouldn't vote against them. And 185 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: we now know much of that evidence is suspect in 186 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 3: the legal argument, suspect they already got what they wanted 187 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: out of it. All that's left. The only thing that 188 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: Pam Bonni can do, if she has the courage to 189 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: do it, is to create a disincentive that so nobody 190 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: in the future is tempted to do it again, because 191 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: the penalty will be so severe. But eight years of 192 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 3: political history or forever altered. They'll never be gotten back. 193 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: My Wikipedia page, we'll never get back. And that's a 194 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: small thing compared to the people who suffered much, greatly 195 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: greatly I did, Mike Flynn and others. I mean, think 196 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: about Mike Flynn. The FBI decides on January fourth, twenty seventeen, 197 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: he's not committed a crime. They've turned his life upside 198 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: down for three or four months. They want to clear him, 199 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: and Barack Obama decides to have a meeting the next 200 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: day in his office and they concoct a scheme to 201 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: keep him under criminal investigation, maybe trip him up into 202 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: a lie. Is that the sort of president an intelligence 203 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: establishment we want in the future. 204 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: Why Donald Trump, though, why didn't it happen earlier? I mean, 205 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: why didn't Why didn't they go after the Bushes? Why 206 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: didn't they do this to Reagan? Why is it that 207 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: they started this with Donald Trump? Or were there things 208 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: that we just don't know? 209 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: I think the obam era, when we finally find out 210 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: the truth, not the romanticized version that we were force 211 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: fed by the legacy media for most of the Obama years, 212 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: when we're done, Barack Obama created a cultural shift. There 213 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: are certain more rays in Washington. You didn't cross all right, 214 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: You can play a political dirty trick in an ad, 215 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: you can put some oppo research out, but you don't 216 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: use the FBI and the CIA to do it. Barack 217 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: Obama's team crossed that rubicon. And then it's the danger 218 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: now is that it could become the norm for history. 219 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: But Barack Obama's era is the era where people were 220 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: willing to do things that no other earlier generation of 221 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: Americans were willing to do. Whether Barack Obama himself deserves 222 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: the personal responsibility of that or the people he surrounded 223 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: himself does, needs to be determined on the evidence he 224 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: deserves the benefit of the doubt. I want to remind 225 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 3: people that Russia collusion began way before anyone thought Donald 226 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: Trump had a snowballs chance in hell of being the president. 227 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: It starts in December fifteenth with a project that we 228 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: know that Nelly orr is working on, and it starts 229 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: with a poll that I write about in my book. 230 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: A lot of people miss this factor, but I think 231 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: it's really important now. Hillary Clinton commissions a poll in 232 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: late fifteen with her team to find out which of 233 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: all the scandals in her life are the ones that 234 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: are going to keep her from becoming president. And she's 235 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: certain it's going to be the email scandal, which is 236 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: boiling at that point. I had broken that story in 237 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: the summer of fifteen at the Washington Times. But to 238 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: her amazement, the poll comes back and says Russia collusion, 239 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: the fact that her husband took a five hundred thousand 240 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: dollars payment from Donald Trump, I'll jim me from Vladimir 241 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: Putin's people. And in the Obama the Clinton teams reboot 242 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: became a great financial benefit to the Democrats, but didn't 243 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: actually improve our relationships with Russia, our national security that's 244 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: going to be the thing. It was the Peter Schweitzer 245 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: Clinton cash book. That was it, and they. 246 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 2: Stic rise corruption. People don't like. 247 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: It, Yeah, and they start the effort to find Russia 248 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: dirt on whoever the Republican nominees going to be in 249 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: December of fifteen. I don't think they thought Donald Trump 250 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: had a chance in hell of being the president at 251 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: that point, and to their amazement, he becomes the guy 252 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: and they just hang the shingle on him. But they 253 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: needed to neutralize the Russia issue long before the American 254 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: public knew it was going to be an issue. 255 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Why what did the Obama administration do that They didn't 256 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: want a Republican and after them, because obviously it was 257 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: if you're saying this, then they wanted Hillary there. 258 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: Why it's the extension of the Obama legacy. It takes 259 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: it from the eight year and four year cycle to 260 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: the twelve year cycle that Reagan got, which Democrats said 261 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: seldom had over the course of their time. I think 262 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: they didn't like Donald Trump personally. They feared populism. They 263 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: saw what happened in Brexit and they thought Donald Trump 264 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: was the US exit and they had to stop that. 265 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: I mean, the Obama years of the years when the 266 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: globalists begin to merge as the dominant force in the 267 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: Democratic Party. Before that, the Conservatives and the Cheney era 268 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: were the big US police force. And then that the 269 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 3: counter reaction to the big American police forces that we're 270 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: gonna have globalism going forward. America will repress itself and 271 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: we'll all live in a globalist world. And those globalists 272 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: take over all these agencies in that timeframe. And Donald 273 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: Trump was the potential Brexit disruptor, and he posed a 274 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: greater threat than the other Republicans, so as time went on, 275 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: they needed to pin them down. Now we see those 276 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: populous everywhere in the world reviewed as a threat by 277 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: the globalists. And that's why you got the Bolsonaro thing, 278 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: you got the South Korean prime minister being impeached over 279 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: you know, a martial law. They got may been a 280 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: wrong idea, but is it really impeachable? I think I 281 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: think now the playbook is worldwide. America is the one 282 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: place that's kind of counteracting it a little. 283 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: Bit, a little bit so you but you. 284 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: But when you go back to the Obama My era, 285 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't this insanity over we have to have an 286 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: open border. 287 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: We have to let everybody in. We have to. 288 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: We have to have this this situation where well he's 289 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: he kind of started that. They I guess he did 290 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: really start the hate on police. It wasn't fully defund police. 291 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: He started hating on the police, and then we moved 292 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: into defund the police whenever starting. 293 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: All of this, I think Obama is a transitionary period 294 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: to a He had a more extreme agenda, and he 295 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: was very good most of the time at moderating it 296 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: and moving it along a little bit. It's just gay marriage, 297 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: it's not transgender rights, but gay marriage moved on to 298 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: transgender rights and to where we are today, where we're 299 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: willing to physically may make child in the name of 300 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: a transgender ideology. Whether that child knows the consequences to it, 301 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: that starts. But he was very good at masking it 302 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: in moderated language. He was an enormous even listen, whatever 303 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: you want to say about Black Obama, the dude can 304 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: give great speeches. He was an enormous or raider. He 305 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: was one of the great operators of the presidency, and 306 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: he could sell something as not as radical as it 307 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: might have been. But there are moments in his presidency 308 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: where he tipped his hand. Remember the famous dismissing moment 309 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: where he says, all those people are just God's guns 310 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: and Bible people. He knew he looked down on those people, 311 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: the populace, the working class, those who believe that America 312 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: should be put first. And when Donald Trump comes along, 313 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: his ability to keep that course of the country is 314 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: in great danger, much more than if a Marco Ruby 315 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: or Ted Cruz or Ben Carson had been elected. And 316 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: so they go from having to hang a Russian shingle 317 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,479 Speaker 3: on a Republican's house just to neutralize a political liability 318 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: to we got to destroy this guy because he could 319 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: turn the world upside down. Our master plan could be 320 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: set back. And I think that's when we're done with history, 321 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: when we're done with the actual facts, not the ones 322 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: we've been force fed. I think that's what we might 323 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: find behind that dirty curtain. 324 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: So what are we going to find about law fair 325 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: and attempt at assassinations? 326 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: Because are those going to connect back. 327 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: I think the American public has looked now we've stepped 328 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: back from this election, and we've said there was a 329 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: dirty plan to destroy his first term, and they took 330 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that away. 331 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: From him. 332 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they effectively took a lot of his first 333 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: term away. So he has this four years and he 334 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: is overwhelmingly popular. Even though they think they have him, 335 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: they think they've destroyed him. That the I mean, it 336 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: was kind of crazy when you watched the Republican primary. 337 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: No matter what, he's not going to debates, He's not 338 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: out there with those people. 339 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: He is just. 340 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Blowing them away regardless. He is so popular, and they 341 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: start to really panic and you can see it, and 342 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: they start these lawsuits and they raid Mara a Lago. 343 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: They can't be held accountable for that. 344 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, to be determined, right, Cash Mattel has opened up 345 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: what we call the Grand Conspiracy case. He opened it 346 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: up in April. His FBI team did. It's actually not 347 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: him personally. He lets the agents follow the evidence and 348 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: they treat this as a wash, rinse, and repeat cycle, 349 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: much like you would treat the mob in your extortion cases. 350 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: It's prohibition liquor, then it's illegal gambling and taking over Vegas, 351 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: and you can treat the mob and then you can 352 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 3: go back and charge things that are way outside the 353 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: statute of limitations. So Donald Claring Hillary Clinton when there 354 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: was evidence still to potentially indeter is one act in 355 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: an overt conspiracy. Hanging the Russia shingle on Donald Trump 356 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 3: becomes another Ukraine raiding his home. You can tie Jack 357 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: Smith all the way back to Hillary Clinton and James 358 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: Comby the summer sixteen. That's called a grand conspiracy case. 359 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: We used it against the mob, we used it against 360 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: the drug cartels. Will Pambondi go the route that the 361 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: FBI has predicated a case on it, We don't know yet. 362 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: But her first action, the first thing she's actually done 363 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: to address this last few weeks, is she named a 364 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: strike force. A strike force is like an all star team. 365 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: Think of it as a nineteen eighty four Olympic All 366 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: Star team of a basketball player as well. These are 367 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: your best prosecutors the FBI. You put them together and 368 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: you say, see, if this is a conspiracy, That's what 369 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 3: they did to take the mob down. That's what they 370 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: did to take the early Columbian drug cartels down. The 371 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: fact that she chose that tool seems to hint that 372 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: maybe she's going in that direction. And then it will 373 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: come down to what's the evidence. Where are you going 374 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: to bring the charges? Do you bring them in Florida 375 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: with Jack Smith's right, or do you bring him in Washington, DC, 376 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: where John Durham lost two cases that a lot of 377 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: people thought were slam dunks. Those are big questions. The 378 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 3: decisions DJ makes will determine whether we get any accountability 379 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: or just another depressing round of disclosures and no accountability. 380 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: Who do you think should be held accountable? 381 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: I mean, you've talked about Brennan, Joe Biden is apparently 382 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: irresponsible for the unmasking of I think it was Michael Flynn. 383 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: Then he was responsible for the unmasking of Michael Flynn, 384 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: and then you've got Obama and Reason there too. 385 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: So who's who gets held accountable? 386 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: I don't know yet. I mean, I don't think after 387 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 3: all the work I've done, I have all the evidence. 388 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to welch on the issue. Listen, I 389 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: know for certain my reporting has proven that there is 390 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: a political conspiracy of epic proportions. Whether it rises to 391 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: a criminal level that a grand jury would hand up 392 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: an indictment and then a jury would convict, We're a 393 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: long ways from knowing that, and I suspect, even after 394 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: the two three, four hundred stories I've written on this, 395 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: we don't know all the other Listen. I still am 396 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: getting foyas right now that show emphatically that people who 397 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: testified in the twenty nineteen Ukraine impeachment lide they were 398 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: just not telling the truth. I still get foyas every 399 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: day that show things that went on in the early 400 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: Trump years that now we know to be mirages. It 401 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: took us fifty or sixty years to get some truth 402 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: on Kennedy's assassination. It took us many many decades to 403 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: know the truth about al Capone. I don't know how 404 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: long it is before we have the full body evidence. 405 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: So because say that's the quarterback, that was the Godfather, 406 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: that's the Capeoard, that's a lieutenant, these people should be prosecuted. 407 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: And by the way, that's the brilliance of what the 408 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: left did. They made this so complicated it would take 409 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: a decade or more to unravel. 410 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure people understand when you say it's even 411 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: for you to get your reputation back, to get the 412 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Wikipedia page back, what that actually means. And I think 413 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: it's important that the American people understand when you see 414 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: someone I mean, I was listening to you on Fox News, 415 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: like three times a week going through all of this stuff, 416 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: and then you know, suddenly I'm seeing less and less 417 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: of John Solomon. But when you are an investigative reporter, 418 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: your integrity, and this is something my father always talked about, 419 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: was like, don't question my integrity ever, because once you 420 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: have somebody questioning your integrity, you lose all of your 421 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: credibility when you go places. So tell us a little 422 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: bit about what they took from you, so people can 423 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: understand when you say this is a big deal, and 424 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: you are one who didn't end up going through a trial. 425 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen. I don't consider myself a victim, but I 426 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: do realize that there was a significant operation run against me. 427 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: I had succeeded in unraveling the Russia collusion as a reporter, 428 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: and done so enough so that even prosecutors and the 429 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: Inspector General affirmed my reporting, even the Washington Post. I 430 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: to acknowledge that at some point, and then I started 431 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 3: to pivot because at the end of my reporting on 432 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 3: Russia collusion, my sources told me at the same time 433 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: they were falsely of pursuing President Trump on Russia collusion, 434 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: they were turning a blind eye to Hunter Biden that 435 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 3: I get that information. In December twenty eighteen, as I'm 436 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: wrapping up my first round of Russia collusion reporting, and 437 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: I write the first epic stories about Hunter Biden that 438 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 3: President Vice President Biden threatened to hold withhold a billion 439 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 3: dollars of aid if the Ukrainian government didn't fire the 440 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: prosecutor who happened to have an investigation against his son, 441 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden and Burisma. It is March of Time, twenty 442 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: nineteen when that happens. A funny thing happens for the 443 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: first two months after I break that story, because the 444 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: story is factually impeccable. New York Times, ABC News and 445 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: others confirmed the story, and then an operation is run 446 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: to make it look like I was in bed with 447 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: Russian conspiracy theorists and Rudy Giuliani. I was conflicted from 448 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: treating Rudy Giuliani as a source. I couldn't use him 449 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: as a source. I tried to tell every reporter I offered, 450 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: every reporter. I filed a conflict of interest notice because 451 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: The Hill had asked me to work with Rudy on 452 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: a podcast. Because I had a business relationship in my 453 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 3: corporate role, I could not use him as a source. 454 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: I literally filed a document that said, from this point forward, 455 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: I can't use Rudy Giuliani as a source until we 456 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: decide whether we're in business with him. Everybody in the 457 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: Hill knew I wasn't using Rudy Giuliani. Everybody in the 458 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 3: Hill knew my sources were the FBI. But in the public, 459 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: not a single reporter who wrote a story saying I 460 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: had become a conspiracy theorist would look at that evident 461 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: and they wouldn't look at it. And you know, I'm 462 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: named in an intelligence community whistlebower complaint that I was 463 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: talking to Russia. Nope, I was talking to the FBI. And 464 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: at some point in the summer of twenty twenty two, 465 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: my lawyer cooperates with the Justice Department. The Justice Department thinks, 466 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: oh my god, this shows how bad the Justice Department is, 467 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: the Biden Justice Department. They think I'm coming in and 468 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to drop the dime on Rudy Giuliani because 469 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: they haven't been able to prove thank god. And I'm like, Okay, 470 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: here's the deal. I'm going to give my documents. And 471 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: my sources declared me to give my documents but you 472 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: got to put me before the grand jury. That's all 473 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: I want. I want my chance to talk to the 474 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 3: grand jury because my name has been smeared. So I 475 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: walk in and they apparently you know, my lawyer walks in, 476 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: drops these doctums, like wait a second, we were John source, 477 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: Like yeah, you the Justice Department of the FBI, you 478 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: were my source. Look at my documents, look at my notes. 479 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: And then like two days later, Rudy gets his devices back. 480 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: I never got to go before the grand jury, but 481 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 3: once they looked at the evidence, I had to like, 482 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 3: oh my god, he got this legitimately, and no, it's 483 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 3: all true. Now what's happened since then? The very thing 484 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: that I report that Joe Biden personally tried to and 485 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: his team was that Hunter Biden didn't pay taxes on 486 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: his Briessman money in Ukraine. What did we learn? Oh, 487 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: when the FBI irs whistleblowers whose story I broke as well, 488 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: come forward, what did we learn he didn't pay his 489 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: taxes on the Briefema money he was making in Ukraine. 490 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't a conspiracy theory. I had the documents all along. 491 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: But my Wikipedia page says I'm a disgraced journalist. I 492 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: don't get invites to most mainstream journalism events anymore. I 493 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: looked down upon even though I was accurate. Now I'm 494 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: a small victim. I didn't go have to plead guilty 495 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: to a crime like Michael Flynn. I didn't spend millions 496 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: of dollars in legal bills like many other people did. 497 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: So I don't want to cry victim one second. But 498 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: if that can happen to a guy who wrote legitimately 499 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: accurate stories, look what happened to people who couldn't defend 500 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: themselves from the great power of the government. That's what 501 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: those guys in the driveway were warning about. 502 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 503 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. You think that these are victimless crimes, 504 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: but even if you say why, I wasn't a bit 505 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: a huge victim known, But this is your livelihood, this 506 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: is what you do for a living, and discrediting you 507 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: is as significant. They knew they had power in doing that. 508 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: And then you watch that interview. I'll just say this 509 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: really quickly. You watch that interview with Hunter Biden, and 510 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched the entire three hour interview. 511 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: It scared me because he talks like a politician. Well, 512 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: if I were to run for office in three to 513 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: four years, I would go to Al Salvador and empty 514 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: the prisons and have those people flown back here. He's 515 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: telling you what he believes, and I believe that's what 516 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party believes. 517 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: We will just restart this. We've just got a few 518 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: years off. We'll just restart it all. 519 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: He talks about transgenderism, he talks about making sure these 520 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: criminal illegals are here on the streets. To me, that's scary. 521 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: And he wasn't held accountable for anything that he's done, 522 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: and he could run for office. 523 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, he's been pardoned. Yeah, listen, I think 524 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: your description of what's going on is right on. I 525 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: listened to your podcast often and I love it because 526 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: I think you're giving common sense Americans in the Middle 527 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: of America the truth. And the great thing is Middle 528 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: America knows that they were sold an incredible bill of 529 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: Bogi's goods. 530 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: They know they did. 531 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not going to date that same person again. 532 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 3: They're not right, true, but they'll paint up someone else 533 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: to be the next Joe Biden. Hunter Biden, and the 534 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: illusion of falling for that person is high, particularly if 535 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: the intelligence and law enforcement apparatus of this government can 536 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: still put their finger on the scale, which right now 537 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: they could. 538 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: And just as you're talking about why Hillary Clinton was 539 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: afraid that would come back to haunt her at the 540 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Russia collusion and she ended up flipping that script, I mean, 541 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: I look at just Gretchen Whitmer, what she's done here 542 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: with taking the twenty million dollar grant and giving it 543 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: to a friend and taking tax pay dollars and probably 544 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: getting kickbacks on that. I mean, those are the types 545 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: that they is that when you see politicians doing that, 546 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: that person is dirty and you should get away from them. 547 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: And that's why we so enjoy what you do at 548 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: Just the News. John Solomon, thank you so much for 549 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: coming on. 550 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: Great to be with you, Tutor. 551 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: Thanks yeah, absolutely, and thank you all for joining us 552 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 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