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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you

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Speaker 2: our special guest, Anna Maria Menello. Her website is linked

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Speaker 2: up at Coast tocoastdam dot com. She got how many

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Speaker 2: books do you have on now?

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Speaker 3: Anna?

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Speaker 4: I have eight now and then another one coming out

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Speaker 4: late summer early fall.

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Speaker 3: We'll go through most of them today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell us about the other stories you were going

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Speaker 2: to get into before the break.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, well real quick here, I know we only

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Speaker 4: have an hour there.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, you're with us next hour for phone calls.

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Speaker 4: Oh excellent, that's great.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm going.

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Speaker 4: To tell you a couple of UFO stories and then

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Speaker 4: I'm going to step off from that one and go

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Speaker 4: into the paranormal realm, because there's a lot of that

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Speaker 4: as well. It's just really what you're interested in, what

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Speaker 4: the audience is interested in. This one is closer to home.

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Speaker 4: This once again involves a body of water, and George,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is about UFOs and water.

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Speaker 4: These two gentlemen were coming home from work. There were buddies.

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Speaker 4: One gentleman happened to have just had an infant, a baby,

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Speaker 4: and they decided they would go to a local watering hole.

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Speaker 4: So they crossed the bridge into New Jersey and promptly

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Speaker 4: parked a very very busy parking lot where everybody was

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Speaker 4: already inside, you know, having relaxing, having drinks, etc. And

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Speaker 4: the one gentleman then approaches the door. They were parked

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Speaker 4: like right in the middle of the parking lot, a

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Speaker 5: I can't tell you the name of the restaurant.

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Speaker 4: But the other guy then says, oh, wait, I forgot

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Speaker 4: the pictures I was going to show you of the baby.

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Speaker 5: Da YadA, YadA, YadA. I gotta get back there.

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Speaker 4: He said, okay, I'll will for you inside, and then

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Speaker 4: the guy dashes out, goes back to his car and

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Speaker 4: whatever they were in, and as he pulls himself out

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Speaker 3: Only thought did surprise him?

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, so we're talking just a few minutes here

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Speaker 4: from when he left the door of the restaurant and

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Speaker 4: told his friend. He was going to go back and

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Speaker 3: In all the All the cars are gone.

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Speaker 5: All the cars are gone.

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Speaker 4: He then looks at his watch, and you know when

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Speaker 4: people are leaving work. Let's say it's five point thirty

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Speaker 3: Watch, missing time again.

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Speaker 4: Uh, and so he's he walks over but frantic, to

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Speaker 4: for you. Where have you been? I even called the police.

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Speaker 5: I called your wife? Where have you been?

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Speaker 4: And he to this day he couldn't explain what had

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Speaker 3: Yet his car was always where it was.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yet the car was always where it was for

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Speaker 4: some inexplicable reason, something happened to him as soon as

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Speaker 3: Now did he have did he have marks on his

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Speaker 3: body like the other lady did?

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Speaker 5: No, this time he didn't. There was nothing this time.

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Speaker 3: But he wasn't hurt, nothing like that.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't hurt, nothing like that.

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Speaker 3: What does he think happen to himself?

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Speaker 5: He doesn't know, he.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was at some point laughing thinking maybe

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Speaker 5: But he wasn't inebriated.

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Speaker 3: When would they have scooped him up?

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Speaker 4: That's the good question, George, and I wonder about these

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Speaker 4: me to the next story, which also happened on another

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Speaker 5: Ye, those bridges.

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Speaker 4: So this is a bridge that's further up, I would say,

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Speaker 4: A couple this time was approaching a bridge and they

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Speaker 4: But moving, and finally it lost momentum. And then he

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Speaker 4: So I don't know how you explained something like that.

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Speaker 4: So that was another case that came to my attention

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Speaker 4: that was reported, and in this particular one, they ran

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Speaker 4: back to the car. They had a very strange feeling.

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Speaker 4: The gentleman who was talking to me told me that

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Speaker 4: for some reason, there were no sounds along that river,

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Speaker 4: no sounds, everything was drowned out, and he just got

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Speaker 4: the creepiest feeling. He ran back to his own car

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Speaker 4: made a y turn and went back, probably crossed another bridge.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Your first not was called The Way through the Woods.

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Speaker 2: Your titles are as scary as the books.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about this without giving away

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, this came to my attention very strange situation.

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Speaker 4: I was attending a child's birthday party. And the birthday

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Speaker 4: and everything else was there. They were probably in excess

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Speaker 4: World War Two. This woman actually went through the Bavarian

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Speaker 4: Woods to escape the Gestapo. She was only at the time,

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Speaker 5: Who had a disability.

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Speaker 4: And you know, George, anything that the Germans felt was

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Speaker 4: And then one day she decided to escape. She walks

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Speaker 4: that were being replayed. It was really not happening anymore,

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Speaker 4: the tragedies that were happening. Things were being replayed before

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Speaker 4: took her several weeks to get through them, and by

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Speaker 4: And you know what I'm alluding to, George, these are

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Speaker 4: all disembodied people, even animals that had passed away because

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Speaker 2: So what you've done in some of your books is

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Speaker 2: you've taken real stories and have created them as novels.

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Speaker 4: Right, yes, So what I do is I take. What

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Speaker 4: I do is I set it up in such a

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Speaker 4: true events. In this particular case, because it is considered

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Speaker 4: creative nonfiction, it's about eighty five to ninety percent true.

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Speaker 4: And in this particular case, what really and I still

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Speaker 4: don't understand it to this day, is how she ended

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Speaker 3: You've got a book called Haunted Heirlooms.

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Speaker 2: I assume that has to do with artifacts that have

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Speaker 2: been handed you know haunted by ghosts.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so there's four stories in Haunted Heirlooms. They

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Speaker 4: were all from actual antique dealers that I had met

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Speaker 4: because I used to collect a lot of antiques in

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Speaker 4: my time, and having now learned about them and their lives,

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Speaker 4: it's been quite a number of years. They finally opened

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Speaker 4: they had a problem trying to They didn't know what

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Speaker 4: correct to sell it. Some came into them because they

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Speaker 4: were traveling. And once she traveled to Czechoslovakia and ordered

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Speaker 4: an urn and it came shipped to her door in

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Speaker 4: did not realize what it housed. She couldn't open the lid.

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Speaker 4: It was what they call a blue and white arms beautiful.

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Speaker 4: She doesn't have possession of it anymore at this point.

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Speaker 4: They had to bury it, but it was an urn

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Speaker 4: that was about two feet tall.

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Speaker 3: Were there remains in the urn at that time?

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Speaker 4: Yes, not to give you the spoiler, but yes, but

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Speaker 4: there was something that was around it that was protecting it,

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Speaker 4: and that is what terrified her family and led them

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Speaker 4: to consult other people. At the time, they were living

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Speaker 4: to it, and they were it wasn't even unwrapped yet

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Speaker 4: out of the wrapping. Picture a big package, a big container,

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Speaker 2: I'm in Saint Louis right now, Anna, and they have

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Speaker 2: arrested a guy who stole forty browns urns from cemeteries.

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Speaker 3: Oh jeez, these urns would.

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Speaker 2: Be on top of the gravestone and they'd be the

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Speaker 2: cremated remains of the loved one, and he stole the

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Speaker 2: bronze urns. Now, eventually he's going to get haunted, isn't he.

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Speaker 3: You would think, so, My gosh.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting to me, George, that people don't realize. I know,

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Speaker 4: it looks like a black eyed kid and you know,

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Speaker 5: It was for sale.

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Speaker 4: They always wanted to see one, They always wanted to

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Speaker 4: get a haunted doll. And here's a cautionary note. You

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Speaker 4: never know what you're acquiring. When you're actually intending or

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Speaker 4: hoping to get something of that nature. The next thing

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Speaker 4: you know, you encounter one, to see one, or actually

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Speaker 4: hold one, and to actually own it. It's not what

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Speaker 4: you want. With these particular objects, they're rare. I have

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Speaker 4: it is incredibly difficult to get rid of them, if

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Speaker 5: The havoc that happens afterwards.

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