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Speaker 1: Some guys are dropping like flies. Dak Prescott practiced for

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Speaker 1: And as someone who loves the summer, you know, a

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Speaker 1: some finality and listen. Like many of you, I became

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Speaker 1: You either know how to handle relationships or you don't.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know Brian Goodikins at all, never met

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Speaker 1: what you witnessed last year from Aaron Rodgers. He's like,

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Speaker 1: toxic now, and given how much money he makes, like

426
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Speaker 1: he has no value and he's hers Obviously, he's not

427
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Speaker 1: even tradeable unless you you're not gonna get him away

428
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Speaker 1: for like a six or seventh round pick. You have

429
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Speaker 1: to when you sign your own guys, you better know

430
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: because the moment now, listen, guys started declining physically, that happens.

431
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: But when guys mindset are like, yeah, I'm gonna get

432
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Speaker 1: a surgery right before camp, so basically I won't be

433
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Speaker 1: available at minimum the first half of the year. Where

434
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Speaker 1: if I would have got this surgery right after O

435
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Speaker 1: T A S, I might have been healthy at least

436
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: four week two or three. Do you think Davante Adams

437
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: have done that, would Keenan Allen have done that? Would

438
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: Julio Jones have done that? No? The answer is no,

439
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: So I can no longer. I don't take this guy seriously.

440
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: And listen, I was someone I didn't know that much

441
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Speaker 1: about him coming out of Ohio State Beide. Once he

442
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: hit the scene, He's his Twitter handle was can't guard Mike,

443
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: Like God, this guy is sweet and he was only

444
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: running like slants and outs and he was unstoppable. And

445
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: now it's like I wouldn't want that guy, would have

446
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: pay in the ass, can't get along with Sean Payton

447
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: in an offense Taylor made to for you to dominate.

448
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: You're doing You're pulling this crap like Jack pulled that

449
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Speaker 1: like a decade into his career. Had you know a

450
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Speaker 1: couple of super Bowl rings or I mean not super

451
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Speaker 1: Bowl rings but uh finals m v p s and

452
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: NBA and Champion Chip rings they give rinks to in

453
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: the NBA. But like, damn, I think the Saints learned

454
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: a hard lesson. You signed the wrong guy to that

455
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: type money problem. Oh you know, it's funny with the

456
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Speaker 1: practice starting and all the teams going back up. I

457
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Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm gonna go to some practice,

458
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Speaker 1: but I don't go to the practices. I'm not a

459
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Speaker 1: beat reporter, and they just go really to bullshit. Watch

460
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Speaker 1: a little gives me some content, Uh you know, maybe

461
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Speaker 1: talk to some important people, try to get him on

462
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Speaker 1: the podcast that type thing. But I don't go till

463
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Speaker 1: the pads come on. So usually if practice starts, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, pads are on by like Friday, and I

465
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Speaker 1: text a couple of people that you know, like beat

466
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Speaker 1: writers for the Niners and a couple of people that

467
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Speaker 1: work for the Niners, and like when do pads come on,

468
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: and I got a bunch of text back. They don't

469
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Speaker 1: come on until Monday, and I started thinking, we live

470
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Speaker 1: in a completely different world than football has always been

471
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Speaker 1: when it comes to the NFL. As funny, as I

472
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: was texting with someone who's a high up executive for

473
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Speaker 1: a team and he worked for Belichick on several Super

474
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Speaker 1: Bowl years, and I said, do you know what's crazy

475
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Speaker 1: about just two one? You guys really don't and every

476
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Speaker 1: team is the same. Have that many practices in paths

477
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Speaker 1: before week one? You get these couple of weeks and

478
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Speaker 1: if you're not in the Hall of Fame game once,

479
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Speaker 1: you get two preseason games. If a preseason games on

480
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Speaker 1: a Saturday, well I'm not practicing in paths on Friday

481
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Speaker 1: or Sunday. So basically that week is like Monday, Tuesday,

482
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Speaker 1: ease in the Wednesday, and by Thursday we're walking through

483
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Speaker 1: Friday's nothing. Saturday we're playing Sunday's recovery day. And he's like,

484
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Speaker 1: do you know what's funny Mike Vray Bowl? Because I

485
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: was like, got Belichick, this has to drive him nuts.

486
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Now he adapts, but his quote, the only way to

487
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Speaker 1: get better at football is playing football is true, and

488
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: we've never played less football now we played more actual games, right,

489
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: seventeen games. But a huge part of the sport is practice,

490
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Speaker 1: and in the history of the sport in the seventies,

491
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Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties, even the two thousand's, god, we

492
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: have way more injuries now than ever. And he's like,

493
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, what's funny, I'm like, Belichick practices and like, oh,

494
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: four probably looks a little different. He's like, yeah, Mike

495
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: Vrabel used to call them the junction boys. You're talking

496
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Speaker 1: about Bear Bryant Alabama back when he wouldn't give him

497
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Speaker 1: water a month of double days. But practice used to

498
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Speaker 1: be really, really hard. Practice now is kind of a joke,

499
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Speaker 1: which again, it doesn't matter to me one way or

500
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Speaker 1: the other. And it's clearly better, easier on the player

501
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: in August, but at the rate of the injuries, there

502
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Speaker 1: has to be something. I'm not a doctor, but there

503
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Speaker 1: is a reason these fighters, when you get ready for

504
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: a fight, they spar constantly to harden their body to

505
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Speaker 1: be able to take the shots forever. In the eighties

506
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: and the nineties, obviously the game was really violent, and

507
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: we've changed for hopefully the better to keep player quarterbacks healthy.

508
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Speaker 1: But in terms of guys, we get a c L

509
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: and Achilles injuries happening NonStop because back then you would

510
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: have full team scrimmages during the season, so you were

511
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: used to I don't know, tackling, breaking a tackle, blocking,

512
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: hitting people. Nowadays, especially for a star player, you know,

513
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: practice hit or miss, right, they limit my reps and

514
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: then I don't really play in the preseason all in

515
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Speaker 1: Week one starts and if I'm a wide receiver, I

516
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Speaker 1: just got Jalen Ramsey across from me, or I'm a

517
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Speaker 1: star senter guard and we're playing the Rams, I got

518
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald or Fletcher Cox in front of me. Its

519
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: fucking full go ninety mile pedal to the medal. I

520
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: do think if we look back, when there were less

521
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Speaker 1: injuries and the game was quote unquote more violent, guys

522
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Speaker 1: were much more or prepared for games. I think intellectually

523
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: now guys are prepared right, more meetings than ever, the

524
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: game more offensively driven. Uh. Schematically, it's much more diverse

525
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: probably than it's ever been. But you can't tell me

526
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: physically now, and I'd argue guys are physically bigger, stronger,

527
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: faster now. It's just the evolution of humans and training

528
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: that's not debatable. So they're actually faster and stronger probably

529
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Speaker 1: than they've ever been, but they're less prepared to just

530
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Speaker 1: do what you have to do to play football. Like

531
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Speaker 1: Bill said, you get better playing football by playing football,

532
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: and I there's not really I don't really have like

533
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: an endgame to this. There's no solution because I've said

534
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: it all along. The NFL owners have consistently won the

535
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: arguments with the players because they have always given them, Okay,

536
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: you guys want a day off, you have two days

537
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Speaker 1: off a week. No padded practice is uh? Back to

538
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Speaker 1: back days cool? No double days, no more. No guaranteed

539
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: money though for us. And they have always thought for

540
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: the money, and it's why the owners have never made

541
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Speaker 1: more money. I was talking to a guy in the

542
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: mortgage business today. He was he giving me his take

543
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: on the upcoming uh just the housing market and why

544
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: we might be in for a little slow down, that

545
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: little forbearance period where you couldn't kick out, uh, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: the renter. And he was covered in states like California

547
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: and Arizona by the federal government that ends August one,

548
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of owners that are going to sell

549
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: their homes have not put their homes in the market,

550
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: so there have been a limited number of supplies of

551
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Speaker 1: homes that drives up the market, and obviously the rates

552
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: are down. So it's been this confluence, perfect storm. It's

553
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: different than O eight oh nine, but it does make

554
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: some sense. It's it just I don't think what we're

555
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: gonna see what happened, you know, twelve years ago. But

556
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: there is a curveball, and it's called the corona forbearance

557
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: and just corona in general. We just got a lot

558
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: of things happening right now that are a little out

559
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: of whack. I noticed, like I went to my CBS.

560
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: If you noticed the supply chain in America trying to

561
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: get off on a tangent here, supply chains all messed up.

562
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: Some stores just have empty shelves. I know someone that

563
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: needs a new oven for their house. They tried to

564
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Speaker 1: get it fixed. They couldn't get it fixed with the parts.

565
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Speaker 1: They looked to get a new oven one it was

566
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: like two grand more than it was a year ago.

567
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: And they're like six months behind, so you couldn't even

568
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: get one for six months. That's not normal. So it's just,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, weird things are going on. Keep an eye,

570
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: keep your head on a swivel. Right now, cars, you

571
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Speaker 1: want to get a new like escalade that used to

572
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: be it's a hundred grand right now. My mom is

573
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Speaker 1: a Mercedes. They call her all the time, try to

574
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Speaker 1: buy that bad boy back from her. It's like two

575
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: years old. But back to training camp that, uh, I

576
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Speaker 1: just you know, I don't think we can be shocked.

577
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: Why are they all these guys getting injured? Because we

578
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: don't really practice football anymore. And the only way to

579
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: practice football is literally in pads. That's how you improve.

580
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: We know that. In shorts and a teacher, it's just

581
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: not the same thing. Hell, even in pads, if you

582
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: can't sack the quarterback is not or even hit a

583
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: guy to the ground. It's not true football, but at

584
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: least it's close. We just don't do that anymore. I

585
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: saw a clip today of Ceedee Lamb, who, by the way,

586
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: no player since training campus started has more Holy Moly

587
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: tweets than Ceedee Lamb highlights. It looks awesome. I think

588
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: in like ten years, Ceede Lamb might be one of

589
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: the best players from that draft. But like the practice,

590
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: like they're like tapping it on his ass. That's a tackle.

591
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: That's not when you play you know whoever they open

592
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: up with. You play the Giants like you gotta tackle

593
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Segue in Gala Day. So you can be like you

594
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys Mike Nolan and trust me, I was

595
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: someone pounding the table. You cannot hire Mike Nolan. He

596
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing. But part of it is

597
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: like your middle linebacker, you're starting safety. He's not really

598
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: making an open field tackle in training camp because you're

599
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: not tackling anyone into the ground. You're just touching them. Well,

600
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: in real football, you actually gotta bring him to the ground.

601
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: And then because you're scared of injuries, you don't even

602
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: play your starters in the preseason games. So maybe part

603
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: of the reason these injuries have happened and some of

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00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: the poor defensive plays have happened, we don't really practice

605
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: defense anymore. One job you get when you first get

606
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: hired in the NFL in a scouting department is training

607
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: camp is just an eye opening experience because you are

608
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Speaker 1: covering the entire league and keeping tabs on the entire NFL.

609
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: So you go to training camp, you take your four

610
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Speaker 1: or five pro scouts and your GM or your assistant GM.

611
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: Your GM is kind of doing other stuff, and you

612
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: basically divvy up the entire league of one. You're like

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Speaker 1: your main pro scouts, your for your couple high end guys.

614
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: They covered the teams you're gonna play, so like your

615
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: divisional opponents, your team's early in the season, and then

616
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: some of your younger guys just covered the rest of

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Speaker 1: the league. And when I say cover, you get a

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00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: print out of every story written on that team every day.

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Speaker 1: You also, I mean we use Rotor World and I

620
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: still use it to this day. You're in charge of

621
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Speaker 1: following Rotor World and inputting injuries for every team that

622
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: you're supposed to follow. And actually when you're the young guy,

623
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: they highlight all that information and give it to you.

624
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: Now with technology, you know, seven eight years later, they

625
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: maybe they email it to you, maybe they put it.

626
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but basically your entire scouting department, every

627
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: single team in the league does this, monitors the entire league.

628
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Speaker 1: So every day and once practice start, guys start getting hurt,

629
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Speaker 1: and every team has several guys getting hurt as well

630
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: as now with COVID protocols, guys getting corona and guys

631
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: coming into the season on pop. You have to keep

632
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: tracks of it all. My first year in the NFL

633
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: was I thought training camp was overwhelming. It was intense.

634
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff going on, a lot of

635
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: information been flying, and you gotta take care of your

636
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: own team. Usually gotta pick guys up at the airport.

637
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: I had to like chart special teams at practice. It

638
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: was wild. There's a lot of moving parts at training camp.

639
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: And one thing you see is injuries. You just kind

640
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: of keep track injuries, and I've done it ever since.

641
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Just you can just feel injuries, right. You see something

642
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: and you just remember it, and there is nothing like

643
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: And I've been lucky, and maybe some people listening, if

644
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: you're a season ticket holder for whatever your team is,

645
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: maybe you've gone to a training camp practice, and obviously

646
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: if you've gotten to a game, it can happen. But

647
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: in a game, like you know, a guy can have

648
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: a serious injury and the cart comes out. It sucks,

649
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: but it's it's part of the sport, and at least

650
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: it's the game, Like the guy made it to the game.

651
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: I think the worst thing in all of football is

652
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: when a cart has to come out for a player

653
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: in practice and it's obviously you never wanted to be

654
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: a star player. But I think it doesn't matter even

655
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: if it's a guy that's not gonna make the team.

656
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: It stops practice when there's a major injury. And that's

657
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: the worst, you know right away, A blown out knee,

658
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: a blown out arm, whatever, right guy carted off. You're like,

659
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: that's probably pretty bad. But I and listen, so have you,

660
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: Like I kind of take every injury serious, and I

661
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: know every team loves to kind of leak out or

662
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: put out this. Injuries minor, This is not a big deal.

663
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, because little injuries, especially with older players,

664
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: but same with younger players can linger like J. J.

665
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: Watt pulls a hamstring or tweaks a hamstring running gassers

666
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: to check his conditioning. When he got there, you'd be like, Oh,

667
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: what's the big deal, John, Well, I don't know. The

668
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: guy's always hurt and now he tweaks a hammy in

669
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: conditioning drills, like he's just gonna stay healthy. I don't know.

670
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, while he gets you know, throwing shoulder tightness, whatever,

671
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: gonna miss a couple of weeks, Like you can tell

672
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: me that's minor. I'm sorry, I I can't take that

673
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: as minor. He had a major injury last year, so

674
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: he probably didn't throw for a long period of time.

675
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: Then the Cowboys get a training camp before everyone else

676
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: gets a training camp, he's probably throwing a ton and fairness,

677
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: he's trying to show everyone like, I'm worth forty million

678
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: dollars a year and now his shoulder hurts. Now it

679
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: might be nothing, but is that something that could linger

680
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: all season long or at least early in the season potentially.

681
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: You know, all these guys on pop like what is

682
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: the injury? And I know, like luckily knowing people in

683
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: the league. Sometimes you'll be like, what's up with so

684
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: and so on your team. They're like, yeah, it ain't good,

685
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, but they'll be telling the media, no big deal,

686
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: he should be back for a week one. He ain't

687
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: coming back for a week one, so listen. I take

688
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: the strategy when it comes to injuries as someone who

689
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: started as making his living in the NFL, as typing

690
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: them into the system knowing that these things linger. And

691
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: obviously an a C L and achilles, you know, a

692
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: torn pack, like there are certain injuries we know our

693
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: game changers but I take hamstrings seriously because you know

694
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: what happens with hamstrings. It's like, okay, the guys full go,

695
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: and then he has a couple of weeks and then

696
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: week four holds it again, or the or the soreness

697
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: or the tendonitis or the nie swelling comes back. I

698
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: saw Javon Kidlaw to du the Niners drafted fourteenth last

699
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: year got nie swelling flying. I'm like, that ain't nothing

700
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: so to me, any guy that has any lingering injury, now,

701
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: some of them do go away, and some of them

702
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: are fully healthy. But with older players, it's just something

703
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: whenever you see your coach. Because of course it's a

704
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: minor deal, no big issue. We're just being precautionary. How

705
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: often does that turn into yeah, we know it's been

706
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: a week, but he's gonna be okay. These are Ferrari's, right,

707
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: All these guys in the league, the high end guys

708
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: are Ferraris. I've never owned a Ferrari, but from what

709
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: I've read, I actually don't even know anyone that's own

710
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: a Ferrari. But I would imagine if you ding the

711
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Ferrari on the way into the garage and you need

712
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: to take that bad boy into the body shop. It

713
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: ain't cost you three. Right, if you have like a

714
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: your shooty car, you don't even care. But that Ferrari

715
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: a little thing, it's costing you a lot. That's why

716
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: high end cars like your oil change costs you a

717
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: couple grand. So these guys like it's someone maybe I'll

718
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: get to the d M had asked me a question about, like,

719
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, with mental stuff coming up and Simone Biles,

720
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: did I ever experience that in the NFL? And I didn't,

721
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: But I wasn't really paying attention to that stuff. I've

722
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: been a lot of coaches have guys that, you know,

723
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: can just handle stuff, compartmentalized stuff better than others. I

724
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: do think one thing though, that mentally, some guys can

725
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: clearly handle better than others. And we're all different. Right,

726
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: I stubbed my toe, I'm probably saying three efforts, you know, Uh,

727
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cock stubbs a toe, he might not even notice.

728
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: We all have different pain tolerances. And one thing that

729
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: separates guys in the league is some guys are just

730
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: better at playing through injuries and pain, and some guys

731
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: can't play through pain. Right, It's it's definitely hard historically

732
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: for like speed wide receivers or speed corners. You know

733
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: they can they can play through that. I remember a

734
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, it was actually probably five or six,

735
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: when I lived in my other place before I moved

736
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: from talking right now. One day after a radio show,

737
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe just going to work out, and

738
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: I was walking barefoot and I stubbed my toe. But

739
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: it was more than a stub toe. I felt like

740
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: I shattered it. And it was in so much pain,

741
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: and for like a week, I limped around and I

742
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: eventually went to my doctor, who was the doctor for

743
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: all the professional teams around here, at least in the

744
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: East Bay at the time, the Raiders, the Warriors and

745
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: the Ace, and I was in so much pain and

746
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, Doc, and we took an X ray and

747
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: it was broken. I had broken a bone. I'm like,

748
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: what do I gotta do? How do how do we

749
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: fix this? He's like, you know, he just just takes time.

750
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: It'll heal on its own. And then we were bullshitting

751
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, Doc, if I was the right

752
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: guard for the Raiders, I don't know if I could

753
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: play this week. And he laughed at me play this week?

754
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: He's like those guys play all season with broken toes.

755
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: You know that's not even a major injury, and you

756
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: just realize, like, man, now, I mean, you know, I

757
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: probably get a shot up, but still you just take

758
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: that bad Boy episode Rocking and Rolling. Have you ever

759
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: been played pickup basketball and caught a ball on a

760
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: pass where it doesn't hit your hand, it hits the

761
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: top of your finger and it jams your finger and

762
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: it feels like you break you shatter your finger. Well,

763
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: it happens all the time in the NBA, and they

764
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: just retape it up and they keep going. And that's

765
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: why I'm when I see all these injuries, all these

766
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: guys on Pop, you just you have to be cautiously nervous.

767
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: Cautiously I don't even I wouldn't even say optimistic. I'd

768
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: say there's just an unknown. You have no clue because

769
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: we see year in and year out a guy that's like, oh,

770
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be should be back by middle

771
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: of training camp. Then all of a sudden, it's middle

772
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: of September. It's like, know, we're just gonna put them

773
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: on Pop after six games. Little things can turn into

774
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: big things really fast, and older players with injury histories.

775
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: That's another thing that I really proke up with. So

776
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: anytime an older player you could be a little injury.

777
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: It's something I'm keeping an eye now. I'm not trying

778
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: to act like Dak Prescott seasons over, but we can't

779
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: act like it's nothing. I'm not saying it's something, but

780
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: it's definitely not nothing. Okay, let's get to the Middlecoff

781
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle Let's

782
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: rock and roll baby. I love the pot from Nick Nikki.

783
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: What do you hear around the league about Goodikins? Seems

784
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: crazy that he would not at least talk to Rogers

785
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: about some personnel decisions. I can see wanted to keep

786
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: some degree of separation. Is it possible with FLOORA talks

787
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: to Rogers and knows what he wants and then reiterates

788
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: to the GM or have they literally taken zero input

789
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: from the quarterback on these things. I hope the golf

790
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: game is going well. Let's get around next time you're

791
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: in MAUI ship. I'd come to Mauie tomorrow. I love Mauie.

792
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty so I don't think they asked

793
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: him anything. I think Goodikins came up under Ted Thompson

794
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: and they like most organizations, you don't ask your players

795
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: or anything. This is not the National Basketball Association. You

796
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: don't ask players anything. I think Belichick asked Tom Brady anything. No,

797
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: So Aaron Rodgers, who literally they short it. Let's face it,

798
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: they shorted like a stock. And in fairness to the organization,

799
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: eighteen he looked off right. That was McCarthy's last year

800
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: when he wasn't playing well. And then in nineteen in

801
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: the new offense. Now granted it was the first year

802
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: of the offense, he wasn't great, and they drafted Jordan's

803
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: love in. It backfired. Aaron Rodgers shot to the moon,

804
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: won the m v P and then it was too late,

805
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: like Goudakins, what I don't understand? And I text someone

806
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: in this in the in the NFL yesterday and I said,

807
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: because he texts me, he's like, did you watch the

808
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers Prescot because he thought it was incredible. I'm like, yeah,

809
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: I did. He was pretty impressive and Aaron's smart. So

810
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch the press conference again. Anyone who gets

811
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: to speak, if I get to speak, if you get

812
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: to speak, if you're get in a huge fight with

813
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: your wife right over whatever. And let's say you're half

814
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: wrong and she's half wrong. If I brought you into

815
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 1: my office and I gave you a microphone and I said,

816
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: tell me everything that happened, I'm gonna get your perspective,

817
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: and your perspective is going to be your side and

818
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: the moment if I can go grab her after and

819
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: I say give me your perspective, it's gonna be different.

820
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: So Aaron's very you know, well spoken, articulate, really into

821
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: he's he's smart, so he sounds really really good. When

822
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: one he doesn't give a ship, which is I appreciate.

823
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: He was very candid, but he can just say whatever

824
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: he wants from his side. So you watch that press conference,

825
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: you go, God, Aaron's kind of getting screwed. And you

826
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: watch Gouda Kins. I mean he's okay, He's is like

827
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: a normal GM talking. So you watch Aaron and then

828
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: you watch Gouda Kins, you go, God, I believe Aaron. Well,

829
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: of course you are. Any anytime you get to watch

830
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: someone that's smart and they speak, and then someone that's

831
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: not as smart and they speak. I'm not saying Gouda

832
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: Kins is dumb, but Aarons is smarter. You're gonna take

833
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: his side. But is there a chance Aaron is leaving

834
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: some parts out and making you know, it sounds a

835
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: little different than it actually is for sure. What I

836
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: don't understand though, is the moment Aaron starts killing it

837
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty. How do you start not figuring

838
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: it out? You know, by like October last year Like

839
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: that to me's on Gouda Kins, like once he started

840
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: dominating and it was clear he was an elite level anymore,

841
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry. It's on you to figure it out.

842
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: It's on you to get back into his good graces.

843
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: It's called business, one on one. Be a relationship guy.

844
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: Figure it out. That's your cash cow again. The Greenway

845
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Speaker 1: Packers one of the biggest brands in the history of sports.

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00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say Aaron Rodgers is the

847
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: best player in the history of their franch us and

848
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: he's having the best season of his career. You're the

849
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: general manager and a young one. It's on you to

850
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: kind of figure it out. Kiss his ass. And when

851
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: I say kiss his ass, like just make him feel wanted,

852
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: make him feel good, which Goodikins did not do. What

853
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: do you think Andy Reid would have done if a

854
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: player was Matt Adam and then the player starts killing

855
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: it again, you think he would have left the season

856
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: piste off, especially if you're an NFC championship team. No, Like,

857
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I put it on good akins, I

858
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: I really do. What do you think of the Jets

859
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: this year? I know it's first year head coach O

860
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: C d C, but I think they're headed in the

861
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: right direction and could surprise some people. I think the

862
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is going to be that guy, and the

863
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: receiving corps isn't as bad as people think with Davis,

864
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: MEM's crowder Cole and more. Let me know what you think.

865
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Any thoughts, Uh? Yeah, I mean I think obviously they

866
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson miss to day, no big deal for the contract.

867
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: I just think the divisions really hard, so like they

868
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: could be much improved. Like you watched last year, they

869
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: were a joke, they were an embarrassment. They were you know,

870
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: at one point in time, I felt like the worst

871
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: team we've ever seen. Now, once Sam Donald came back

872
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, they won a couple

873
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: of games, But I would say they could be a

874
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: four or five win team and exponentially dramatically improved from

875
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: last year, like a completely different level. I think that's

876
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: on the table, but I don't see many wins. I mean,

877
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: think of your division. The Bills are a powerhouse, the

878
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins are freaking good, and the Patriots are gonna be

879
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: way better. So you could easily go in six. I

880
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: mean I would say five, and what would the record be?

881
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: Five and four, five and twelve, five and twelve, and

882
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, get a top five pick. That'd be a

883
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 1: step in the right direction. But like, look a lot better,

884
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: lose a lot of tight games. I think that's the

885
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: best case. Uh A Washington fan from Virginia, your takes

886
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: your gold. Appreciate that. Got two part for you? If

887
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: it's Magic said a few days ago about going to

888
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: Washington football team, it's the best situation I've ever gone into.

889
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: Do you agree with this quote? Realistically? How do you

890
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: see him or the team performing this year? Well, I

891
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: saw a headline on a road to world rdal world.

892
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if you're just an NFL fan and

893
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: you just you know, Twitter gives you, like you know,

894
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: from politics to corona, you just want to get football.

895
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: Go to Rodal World. No politics, just it's basically like

896
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: a website, but it's based on Twitter, like a Twitter

897
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: formula set up and you just get to see everything

898
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: that's going on in the NFL. And I saw that

899
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: fits magic on my Rodal World. Timeline was competing with

900
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: Heineke to be the starting quarterback. Now his best situation.

901
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: I have to bring up his where he's been, but

902
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: I would say when when he got with the Bills,

903
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: they weren't as good. When he showed up in Miami,

904
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: they clearly weren't as good. Okay, I'm I'm bringing it

905
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: up right now. I didn't know he was from Gilbert,

906
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: Arizona when he showed up with the Rams. Yeah, Bengals sucked,

907
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: Bills weren't very good. Titans stunk Houston Texans. Bill O'Brien's like,

908
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: I think the first year they stunk the Jets. That

909
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: Jets team actually was a bad Bucks. They were bad Dolphins. Yeah,

910
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: you're probably right, but that I mean looks like that.

911
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick hasn't exactly played for the Packers, Steelers and Seahawks here,

912
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean he's I think he's telling the truth.

913
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: They have an excellent defense, they have some good offensive pieces.

914
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is a playoff level coach. I think Fitzpatrick

915
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: should beat him out. But I think the NFC is

916
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: pretty wide open. Like if Syriani is just a decent coach,

917
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: maybe the Eagles won't be as terrible as we think.

918
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Da DA's already hurt. Every Ceedee Lamb video I've seen.

919
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: The defense looks terrible. Uh. The Giants, I mean their

920
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: quarter act might not be any good. I think that

921
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: division is pretty interesting. I think there are a lot

922
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: of things on the table. My question is this The

923
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Daily Sports podcast and shows like this podcast Coward Show

924
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: and podcast The Ringer Podcast, etc. Always seem to have

925
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: great guests and quality information. How much do you your

926
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: show pay for guests? How much do guests on Coward

927
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Show get paid? Or do they get paid? I understand

928
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: some will come on to promote something, uh and so

929
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: some maybe they don't need to get paid. But I've

930
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: always wondered about the money that guests get. I don't

931
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: need specifics or anything, but would you just but would

932
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: really just love to get a ballpark figure about guests? Yeah,

933
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think when Colin Coward asked you to

934
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: come on a show, or Dan Patrick right, or you

935
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: know some of the bar stool shows. They have enormous audiences.

936
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: Howard Stern, you know Joe Rogan, you go on for

937
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: free because you get to talk in front of you

938
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: know whatever, million people, two million people, five million people.

939
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: I have never paid for a guest. Now, when I

940
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: was in radio, you would pay, Like we had Joe Panic,

941
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: who was the second basement of the Dodgers. You know,

942
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: some like radio shows like the local radio show in

943
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: the Bay Area that has the war that has the

944
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan in his contract has that he has to

945
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: go on once a week, so the Niners pay that,

946
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: and then through the contract through the radio station. It's

947
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: like all kind of feeds in. But any guests that

948
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: you see on, I mean, again, I can't speak for Colin,

949
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: but I've got a pretty good idea. I don't think

950
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: they're paid now. I think repeat guests, like if Greg

951
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: Cosell comes on once a week on certain shows, maybe

952
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: he gets a couple hundred dollars, five dollars Peter King,

953
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, Adam Schefter. Local radio stations pay for that,

954
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: but big national broadcast don't need to because their audience

955
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: is so big. So if that answers your question, I

956
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: hope it does. UM listen to your show, And I

957
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: was thinking about what it would be like if the

958
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Houston Texans Green Bay just swap a rod into Shaun Watson.

959
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they have Jordan's love until Watson resolves the

960
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: issue and could give you a chance to see what

961
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: you have in Jordan's I don't know, just want to

962
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodger for as

963
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: great as Watson, great as Watson is strong, Watson is

964
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: a really good player, like a top six seven quarterback

965
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: in the league. He's a really good player. Aaron Rodgers

966
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: in a different fucking universe than Deshaun Watson. And again,

967
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is a pro bowler. Aaron Rodgers is one

968
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: of the greatest players to ever touch a football, Like

969
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: in a short list of like three or four players.

970
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: He is the greatest player in the history of the Packers.

971
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 1: And they have had Brett Farve, Reggie White, like, They've

972
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: had some good players, and Rogers is their best player.

973
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: If I just had a list my top five quarterbacks,

974
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: then I've watched play you know, I didn't really watch Montana,

975
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: but I know he's too, so I'd go Brady Montana honestly,

976
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: Elway right like you could. I mean, I think Roger's

977
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: right there with Elway. You're talking about one of the

978
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: greatest players at the most important position of all time.

979
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: So I think the Packers under no cirtain. And here's

980
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: the other thing, like I'm sorry Deshaun, like I've said,

981
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: Like whether he did it or not, I don't know,

982
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: but he's got to deal with this. Like Rogers gets

983
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: up in his feelings and he gets mad. He doesn't

984
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: get any trouble. You don't never have to worry about

985
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: Aaron like dealing with massage therapists. He dates bless actors, actresses.

986
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I know you have some inside information information. How interested

987
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: are the Eagles and Deshaun Watson and what would a

988
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: trade look like for him with the players? Picks Hurts

989
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: Hurts to first in a second. I know, nothing going

990
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: to happen until things clear up. But even if they

991
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: were by week three or four, would you take this chance? Yeah,

992
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll take the chance till things clear up. Now,

993
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: I I've been around Howie for years. Uh, when I

994
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: worked in an office. Well, I didn't really have a

995
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: true office. I guess my second year, right did. But

996
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: my office was right next to his. He had a

997
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: huge office. I just had like a little cubicle. He's

998
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: aggressive and he's there. They're keeping an eye on it,

999
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: of course they are. I mean it's it's his job too.

1000
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: I I just until this stuff goes away, like he

1001
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: ain't getting traded at least, all be shell shocked. If

1002
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: he does. I don't see it happening. Now. If he does,

1003
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: all get cleared and he's just like Listen, he was

1004
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: just having sex with massusas he didn't do anything wrong,

1005
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: I would say a fair trade. Urch is going to

1006
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: be a free agent. I don't know why the Texans

1007
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: would want Arts, because Arts would not stay there Jalen hurts.

1008
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: They just drafted Davis Mills, so I don't even know

1009
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: if they want Jalen Hurts. I think how we would

1010
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: do two ones and two twos right now? For Deshaun Watson.

1011
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: Does he want to get three ones? I don't know.

1012
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: For a guy that just had some trouble, and I

1013
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: even if he's innocent, it's like, what is he just

1014
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: do stupid stuff again? You could never get I've never

1015
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: been arrested. I've done some stupid things in my life.

1016
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: Would I have invested fifty million dollars into my maturity?

1017
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: And I would not have. So it's like, and I've

1018
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: been around lucky enough to be in the NFL, Like

1019
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: there's some really mature guys you know you don't have

1020
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: to worry about. It's like Zach Hurtz. You know certain

1021
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: guys you just don't worry about at all. If I

1022
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: gotta worry about my quarterback, that's a problem. And I

1023
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: I think this stuff truly needs to go away for

1024
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: teams to feel really really confident like this was a

1025
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: hit job. If I don't, if it doesn't come out

1026
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: like that, I'm just speaking for myself. Maybe I'm overly cautious.

1027
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know, man, given what I

1028
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: have to trade for him, it'd be one thing. It's

1029
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: like you're trading a second round pick. They're asking for

1030
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: multiple first round picks and second round picks, like they're

1031
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: asking for a lot a one. I mean, the Niners

1032
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: traded two first round picks and swap this year's first

1033
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: for rookie quarterback. You're trading potentially three first round picks,

1034
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: like a second for a guy making thirty five million dollars.

1035
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: That's a lot. Now, he's a good player, but holy moly,

1036
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: so again, I'm pro Deshaun Watson as a player. But

1037
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: the massage thing makes me a little nervous. Not because

1038
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: I you know, again, I got a little inside information

1039
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: about what teams think and this. You know that they're

1040
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: probably more open minded to it than me. But I

1041
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: like my quarterback to be like fucking Mahomes or Rogers

1042
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: or Brady, Like I don't even want to think. Every

1043
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: now I go to bed, I think about other players,

1044
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: like is this guy gonna get in trouble? My quarterback

1045
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: is the last human being I ever want to think

1046
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: about in my life. If I'm a general manager, the

1047
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: last because I'm paying the most, He's gonna be the

1048
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: highest character in the least of my worries. That's how

1049
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: every deem did you know, I think ideally wants to

1050
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: build their squad. Have a great weekend. Football's back, Enjoy

1051
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Audios,