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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and

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<v Speaker 1>Jetty and He Armstrong and Getty Strong and the Independence Day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the fourth of July and it's the Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>and Geddy. One more thing, don't miss a single moment.

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. Don't Happy Be Worried. It's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>What I was reminded of the Bobby McFerrin classic Don't

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<v Speaker 2>Worry Be Happy the other day as it was listed

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<v Speaker 2>on the Worst Songs of the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess something that very popular. It was a cute

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<v Speaker 1>little ditty. It's fine. I don't know, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>People love, you know, slamming other people's choices in music

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<v Speaker 2>too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta hate on being happy? Yeah, right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't Happy Be Worried is the theme kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a really interesting study that's out.

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<v Speaker 1>Researchers from the.

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<v Speaker 2>University of Toronto, Scarborough and University of Sydney, the Canuckers

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<v Speaker 2>joining up with the Australians. Trump will be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>annexing them both soon. But anyway, for now, we'll let

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<v Speaker 2>them have their cute little universities.

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<v Speaker 1>But they they right.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in a happiness obsessed world. Self help guru's

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<v Speaker 2>promise paths to Bliss, Instagram influencers pedal. Happiness is a lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 2>and corporations build marketing campaigns around the pursuit of positive emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>But new research suggests, say surprising twist.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to art to be happy might make you miserable.

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<v Speaker 2>The researchers that the aforementioned universities found that actively pursuing

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<v Speaker 2>happiness drains our mental energy, the same energy we need

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<v Speaker 2>for self control, among other things. Says the researcher, the

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<v Speaker 2>pursuit of happiness is a bit like a snowball effect.

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<v Speaker 2>You decide to try making yourself happier, but then that

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<v Speaker 2>effort deplete your ability to do the kinds of things

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<v Speaker 2>that actually make you happier.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, there's the key right there. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things actually make you happy?

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<v Speaker 3>So among my favorite books I've ever read in my

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<v Speaker 3>life the Art of Happiness by the Dali Lama, which

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<v Speaker 3>he says, your goal every morning when you wake.

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<v Speaker 1>Up should be to make yourself happy. You should spend

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<v Speaker 1>all your time trying to make yourself happy. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>you should do.

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<v Speaker 3>But it gets down to the data on what makes

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<v Speaker 3>you happy and what doesn't. And many, many of the

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<v Speaker 3>things we all do every single day don't make us happy.

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<v Speaker 3>They've never made us happy. We have ample evidence from

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<v Speaker 3>our own experience, let alone other people's experience, that it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make us happy, yet we continue doing it, like

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<v Speaker 3>eating bad food or buying stuff, or promiscuous sex or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is. It has never made us in the happy,

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make other people happy, yet we keep thinking

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<v Speaker 3>that's what's gonna make us happy. So pursuing happiness every

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<v Speaker 3>day is okay. You just need to define what makes

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<v Speaker 3>people actually makes people happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe this is the key. Pleasure is not happiness. Fun

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<v Speaker 2>is not happiness, right, it can be part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned all them. No life of purpose is what

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<v Speaker 1>makes people happy? Yeah? Yeah, happy happy. You wake up

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<v Speaker 1>determined to have a great day.

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<v Speaker 2>You plan mood boosting activities and work hard to stay positive,

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<v Speaker 2>but by evening you're ordering takeout instead of cooking. Mindlessly

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<v Speaker 2>scrolling social media and snapping at your partner, while your

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<v Speaker 2>pursuit of happiness might be the problem. The scientist marketing

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<v Speaker 2>professor puts it bluntly. Quote, the more mentally run down

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<v Speaker 2>we are, the more tempted will be to skip cleaning

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<v Speaker 2>the house and instead scroll social media.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're saying the same thing as the Dalai Lama says,

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<v Speaker 3>I just I like the way he words it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a little more positive. Pursue happiness all day, every day.

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<v Speaker 3>That should be your goal in life, that should be

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's goal. But now let's break down what actually makes

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<v Speaker 3>people happy, as opposed to saying don't pursue happiness, because

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<v Speaker 3>then it seems like it's a gotta eat my vegetables,

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<v Speaker 3>gotta you know, all negative stuff and maybe there'll be

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<v Speaker 3>a payoff.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the difference between pursuing money and pursuing the

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<v Speaker 2>skills that will make you money. In a way, Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have something you want to jump in with?

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<v Speaker 2>You look thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 4>I I'm kind of overthinking this, I think Okay, to

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<v Speaker 4>be honest, Well, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing that human beings do things that make themselves

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<v Speaker 3>unhappy all the time, all the time. It's just like

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most common things we do is do

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<v Speaker 3>things that make us unhappy. Eat stuff that's gonna make

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<v Speaker 3>us either feel bad in the moment or make us

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<v Speaker 3>feel bad long term, or you know, pursue relationships that

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<v Speaker 3>we know aren't good. But there's either sex, prestige, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>that that makes you do it. Just we regularly chase

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<v Speaker 3>things that we know are bad for us, right right.

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<v Speaker 4>My brain was going with, like, things you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to do, but the payoff in the end is good.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the simplest one is the stirring at your phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody ever, at the end of the day says I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure glad I spent that much time scrolling on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody ever, not even for one day, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just going to contrast doom scrolling on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>which I have the compulsion to do and I resist

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well most times, versus the other day. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is as mundane as can be. I cleaned out

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<v Speaker 2>my closet. I went through it thin, the herd of clothing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, shoes that don't where, etc. It's neater, it's

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<v Speaker 2>better organized. It's just it's better. And that made me happy,

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<v Speaker 2>right Like happy. Yeah, like today, I was not pleasurable.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to lay on my couch all day,

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<v Speaker 4>but I know I have laundry to do, and when

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<v Speaker 4>I get it done, I'm going to be happy that

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<v Speaker 4>it's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just reading an obituary of a fella that I

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<v Speaker 2>barely knew, and it was post retirement, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But he filled his life with the Boys and Girls

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<v Speaker 2>Club of the area where he lived, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>really pivotal in guiding them through difficult financial times and

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<v Speaker 2>growing the programs and stuff like that. I'll bet there

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<v Speaker 2>was very little of that that was pleasurable. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>it was because watching kids learn and grow is immensely satisfying,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a hell of a lot of work there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guarantee that made him happy to his soul.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the best happiness comes from accomplishments. It could

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<v Speaker 5>be like mowing the grass. Like you're pushing the mower

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<v Speaker 5>and you look back and you see what you've done,

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<v Speaker 5>and then when you're all finished, you look at and you think, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really feeling happy.

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<v Speaker 1>So why then, evolutionary speaking, why are we is our

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<v Speaker 1>body screaming out to now mow the lawn tomorrow, lay

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<v Speaker 1>on on the couch watching this football game is what.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to make me happy. Even though you're absolutely right. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, why did I watch? I don't even care

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<v Speaker 3>about these two teams as opposed to you'll feel happy

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<v Speaker 3>after you all the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the greatest minds of our time are devoted toward

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<v Speaker 2>getting you to do things for pleasure for their profit

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<v Speaker 2>in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean even two hundred years ago there's advertisement, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was not nearly as effective, manipulative and scientifically based

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<v Speaker 2>as modern you know, like like Facebook, TikTok. My god,

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<v Speaker 2>we as a species don't stand a chance against that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of neurological manipul.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've noticed recently. I don't know if my well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I guess I just started doing the Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>reels thing. I'd never done it beforeth It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the American version of TikTok, I guess. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>What's disappointing to me is it's not like doom scrolling

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<v Speaker 3>or something where I think why did I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Or it's pretty good, it's pretty enjoyable. It feeds me

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<v Speaker 3>lots of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like, I mean like really like, here's some

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<v Speaker 1>rare concert footage that it figured out i'd be into

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<v Speaker 1>that I've never seen before and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>it kills a freaking hour where I should either been

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping or exercising or whatever. So it's actually it's actually enjoyable,

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<v Speaker 1>like really enjoyable in the time. So that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>got to fight now is not even start. I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to further parse language.

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<v Speaker 2>You got pleasure, you got happiness, and Michael, to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>you have satisfaction. Maybe that's another word to think about

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<v Speaker 2>happiness and satisfaction as opposed to pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't say you're retired and you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>need to accomplish anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when it's the most important, according to everybody I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked to, to have some purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think you could just look at Instagram reels

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<v Speaker 3>feeding your stuff that you actually enjoy and be okay,

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<v Speaker 3>or would you be miserable.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be dead soon. I don't know. I can't state

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<v Speaker 1>that you know with confidence, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read a fair amount about retirement, which is funny

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably like my job too much.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if you're the sort of person who just

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<v Speaker 2>retires and you have nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes people miserable even if you have things to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You have TikTok. You have something to do. And the

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<v Speaker 2>golf course, I just play golf. I look at TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>Cup of the morning. I go play golf again that

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<v Speaker 2>I look at TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've since I started on Instagram reels. It's in

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<v Speaker 3>the TikTok algorithm. Scares me if it's substantially better. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I was listening to Sarah Iger of The Dispatch saying,

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<v Speaker 3>if you think Instagram reels is addictive, you have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Because she got sucked into TikTok and then got it

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<v Speaker 3>off her phone. She says, just so good. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>every day stuff. I love that. I'm super into.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter did the same thing. That's why I feel

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<v Speaker 1>with Instagram reels, like, man, is it good? With coming

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<v Speaker 1>up stuff that I like? S and l clips, concert videos,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I just love. But you can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>want to live their life doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's you know, Lord knows, I've lived a checkered life.

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<v Speaker 2>But one gift that I got somehow or other, And

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<v Speaker 2>this may shock you folks. I used to take walks

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<v Speaker 2>on the wild side now and again, not in the

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<v Speaker 2>lou reads and it's not gender bending madness, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>occasionally in the I could roll a world of the

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<v Speaker 2>eighties and nineties, there were substances about and there are

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of experiences I had where I thought, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I like this too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so it is with the tickety talk.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I've heard, you realize I am powerless against this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is like an endless.

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<v Speaker 4>They provide you endless entertainment on there, especially when they

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<v Speaker 4>figure out what you like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could do that.

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<v Speaker 3>For hours that I wonder if that's what happened. I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if I spend enough time on Instagram that it

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<v Speaker 3>was able to Okay, now we know we got him

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<v Speaker 3>figured out. Yeah, because it just seems like in the

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<v Speaker 3>last week or so, it's like really grabbed me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, And what sucks about that is because I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>I I'm a dumb ass. I thought I could outsmart

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<v Speaker 4>the algorithm because I thought, maybe if I don't interact

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<v Speaker 4>with any posts, you don't like anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't interact with any of them, but it picks

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<v Speaker 1>up your eyeballs or no, it picks up your watch time.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you so like let's say you're scrolling, you

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<v Speaker 4>stop on a video and you spend the time to

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<v Speaker 4>watch that video, the algorithm goes, Okay, we kept him

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<v Speaker 4>here for such and such a.

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<v Speaker 3>Second because I didn't click on it. I didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just part of a stream.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just because you watched it. I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>rewatch on YouTube. The social dilemma. The thing is so

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<v Speaker 2>good documentary, Jack, you gotta watch that. You got it,

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<v Speaker 2>You just gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>Can They put it in twenty second chunks on a

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram reel.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez, we can't save him? Was I gonna say? I

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<v Speaker 1>had one more thing to say about this. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>how good it is at figuring out stuff that you

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<v Speaker 1>really really like. It's it's troubling, actually, and there's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that it would have been hard for me to find,

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<v Speaker 1>like on my own. Oh I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about they fixed what used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you're old enough for this or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>You probably are back when you used to. You want something,

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<v Speaker 3>You sit down, you think, how do I have one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty channels and there's nothing I like? Here

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<v Speaker 3>you click through and there's nothing you like. They fixed that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the opposite. Now you like every single thing on

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<v Speaker 3>every channel. They know exactly what you're into. They got

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<v Speaker 3>your sports thing, your music thing, your kid's thing. You're

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<v Speaker 3>just every every channel is something you love as you

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<v Speaker 3>click through. It's the exact opposite of what he used

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<v Speaker 3>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Leggy blonde guitar players playing golf, constant videos, sexy

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<v Speaker 2>golfing guitarists giving me lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>With a dog doing something funny and a kid doing

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<v Speaker 1>something cute. Yes, yes, see.

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<v Speaker 5>If you guys agree with this, false happiness comes immediately,

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<v Speaker 5>Real happiness comes later.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to wait for real happy. Pretty much always

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<v Speaker 1>is the case. You The Armstrong and Getdy Show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>more Jack, your show podcasts and our Hot Lakes The

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getdy Show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking of doing a feature. Maybe I'll do it

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter someplace called did you eat worse than me today?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually my brother might be even better at that. Put

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<v Speaker 3>up against that, like take it at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, take a look at what he ate. See

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<v Speaker 3>if anybody ate worse that? But like yesterday, here here's

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<v Speaker 3>what I ate yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I had.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh well, I had like through almost four hours of

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<v Speaker 3>zoom calls with various doctors and therapists after working in

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<v Speaker 3>a variety of other things. So it's just constantly running

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<v Speaker 3>around stressful pain and the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff and to make a person completely insane. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just running from one thing to another thing

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<v Speaker 1>to another thing and having to make major decisions of

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<v Speaker 1>this or so. But so I went through drive through,

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<v Speaker 1>got four cheeseburgers and McDonald's and then I went home

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<v Speaker 1>and washed that down with some chocolate birthday cake. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was like the major portion of my eating yesterday. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I just I thought, does anybody, especially my age,

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<v Speaker 1>eating as poorly as me? And how is my body

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<v Speaker 1>just not stopped? Just said, all right, if you don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't care. Drop dead. You know, there's probably somebody

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<v Speaker 1>out there that can best you. But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing there like a six hundred pound trucker or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I can't beget us. I tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking to you yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I was fighting through one of those miserable situations where

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<v Speaker 2>the tax guy says, you've got to have this form

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<v Speaker 2>I tind to do with a health savings account.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh ah, and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Benefits people at the one of the fabulous and patriotic

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<v Speaker 2>American corporations that we're associated with. Theoretically they have this

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<v Speaker 2>form theoretically, but you got to get signed in. I

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<v Speaker 2>sign in two accounts that have that same user ID

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<v Speaker 2>every day, every day. But apparently for this sub account,

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<v Speaker 2>that user that password does not count. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>a back and forth with Benefits and HR with various

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<v Speaker 2>double authenticated signing codes and the rest of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was my brilliant wife, myself, my iPhone, my iPad,

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<v Speaker 2>and my MacBook.

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<v Speaker 1>All involved in an all ferens. It's like a Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Lyons is always talking about how you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the infantry and air support and artillery and tanks and

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<v Speaker 1>logistics to win the war of getting this heffing form.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, there you are trying to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>the fellas, and I salute you. You scrambling parents everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not easy, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, God dang it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mentioned the other day about trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>my son on the Hot Lunch. You finally want to

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<v Speaker 3>eat the hot lunch. And it's a different website that

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<v Speaker 3>uses a different log in that has a different password,

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<v Speaker 3>that is.

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<v Speaker 2>A it has a different log in, because you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have the Russians stealing the secrets of.

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<v Speaker 1>Our fish stack. But I'm surprised, no what he's made

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<v Speaker 1>the argument, maybe I'll do this because maybe it would

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<v Speaker 1>help that this has got to be especially tough on

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<v Speaker 1>people with lesser education and lesser resources, people that don't

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<v Speaker 1>have iPads and iPhones and college degrees in everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>How are they supposed to navigate this crap.

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<v Speaker 3>To take advantage of, you know, your various things that

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<v Speaker 3>you can do in the modern world. You gotta throw

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<v Speaker 3>in people of color. If you don't, you're a fool.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it would take to try to streamline this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Our native peoples have been shown to have seventy eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent more trouble finding their password yes than white people.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw that nobody will check it. Nobody checks any of

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<v Speaker 1>this crap. I love that angle.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna start working that angle to see if I

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<v Speaker 3>can get things fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and get you you you, what the hell are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? Well, pressure, this is the Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Getty Show, the Armstrong and Getty Show. What.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I've got a pretty good immune system

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<v Speaker 3>for stuff like normal diseases that go around. I usually

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<v Speaker 3>don't get them. What would it be like if I

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<v Speaker 3>ate better? I might be impenetrable.

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<v Speaker 2>You could be well, you're you're just at the tail

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<v Speaker 2>and raising little kids. Now you have teenagers, so you

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<v Speaker 2>have been enrolled in the marine boot camp right of

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<v Speaker 2>immune systems raising children. So I've got a number of

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<v Speaker 2>people in my orbit who take nothing when they get

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<v Speaker 2>a cold. They don't they believe it's all bs, and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't take anything. I take a few things.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you take anything? Do you think anything works? Katie's

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<v Speaker 3>nodding her head. We'll start with you. I take theraflu.

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<v Speaker 3>You take theraflu. I have found that to work. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care if it's PLACEBIA. If I suffer from PLACEBIA,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter to me. As long as I feel better.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need anybody to tell me it doesn't. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I feel better. Do you take anything

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<v Speaker 3>like tile and all or I view profen. At one

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<v Speaker 3>point I was down with the zinc.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I couldn't figure out what form, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of remember when nobody got a cold during COVID. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've fallen out of I don't remember what to do anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a bottle of uh, it's you know something

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<v Speaker 3>or other they say take when a cold first you

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<v Speaker 3>first start to get the symptoms of a cold, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's zinc and a couple other things. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if they do anything, but I feel like if

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<v Speaker 3>I take that, if I do get the cold, it's

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<v Speaker 3>much milder.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, might be in my head, I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 1>also use zycham, yeah, which is awesome. I've heard people

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<v Speaker 1>recommend sinuses and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend not to trust my own experience because the

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<v Speaker 2>data set isn't big enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no information that there's anything wrong with taking

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff, and what the hell it worst is harmless?

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<v Speaker 2>But you're not a take nothing guy or no, I am,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much, although I'm thinking now that you mentioned it,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll take some tile and all or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually my symptoms aren't that bad other than just overwhelming

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<v Speaker 2>fatigue at this point.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, do you guys take niq will And that's what

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<v Speaker 5>I do, and I go to sleep afraid of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're afraid of night time niquil? Yeah, Well, with our hours,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>If I wake up groggy or oversleep, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Alcoholics are not supposed to take NyQuil because it's basically

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<v Speaker 3>taken a shot alcohol to help sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't for the reason Katie cided. I just

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard enough to get up in the morning and

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<v Speaker 2>be semi sharp. Yeah, listeners of the first hour of

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<v Speaker 2>the radio showing not very sharp.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing with giving your kids stuff, you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>have a better gauge of whether it's actually doing anything

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<v Speaker 3>or not, especially when they're little. They're too young to

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<v Speaker 3>like and uh, most stuff I don't think does much.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Oh yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when that one thing that was ubiquitous on the

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<v Speaker 2>still it drug store shelves of America.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still in every freaking drug I buy, Every cold

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<v Speaker 3>medicine you buy still has that fenel en run or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it's called in it. And the government announced it

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<v Speaker 3>does nothing. We're completely different. The FDA said it does

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<v Speaker 3>zero zero, it's a nothing and it's an iri cold medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, you're wasting your time on the fenel helamelo melo

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<v Speaker 1>till right, yes, hell, well, how do you say it? Katie?

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<v Speaker 3>Looking at it? But so it's on yours. What are

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<v Speaker 3>you looking at right there?

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<v Speaker 1>This is DayQuil. When I had this flu last.

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<v Speaker 4>Time around, I took everything under the sun that I

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<v Speaker 4>could get my hands on because I was trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of that crap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's in here too. Every cold medicine in every

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<v Speaker 1>aisle of every store that sells cold medicine has drugs

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<v Speaker 1>full of that, and the government announced it doesn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that's weird, just counting on that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because it's funny to say, oh, yeah, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the percentage of people you know. Honestly, we've posed this

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<v Speaker 2>question in many contexts in recent days and through the years.

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<v Speaker 2>What percentage of Americans? One of us will ask the

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<v Speaker 2>other do you think knows that anything story or or anything? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And in this case, what percentage do you think could

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<v Speaker 2>tell you? Oh, yeah, Fennel elephant here is it's it

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<v Speaker 2>was worthless. I remember that news story be a very

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<v Speaker 2>very small number.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose you're right. Okay, this says Feda left freen

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<v Speaker 1>FENI la Freene. That's the way he sat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Fennel left Frene fenelefrine, I like, your guys, is

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<v Speaker 2>better than elephant.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, since it doesn't do anything, I'll call whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it. It's a bunch of wowches, hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>What you got too much blood in your body is

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<v Speaker 1>your problem?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You got to bleed your feet. You don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>uh stomach to actually slice open your own feet. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that what killed George Washington? You? Yeah, well it hastened

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<v Speaker 1>his death certainly. Yeah, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a bit of a history freak and a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a medical history hobbyist and a great admirer

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<v Speaker 2>of George Washington. That was I listened with rapt attention

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<v Speaker 2>and like committed it all the memory there in his

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom where he died, as you're there by his bedside,

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<v Speaker 2>probably a recreation. But and they explained that, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>had what did they think he had? I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>the disease. I didn't memorize it that effectively, obviously, But

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<v Speaker 2>the doctors in he probably did not have aids uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an honorable and elderly man.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, that the doctors in treating him for what was

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<v Speaker 2>probably whatever the hell, just kept saying, yeah, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to bleed the feet and let out the bad humors,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd like grally a little bit, and they'd think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we probably ought to bleed his feet more.

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<v Speaker 1>He died. What if you don't have enough red blood

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<v Speaker 1>cells anemia? He probably died. And it was all that

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<v Speaker 1>for a throat infection, is what the interwebs said. Too

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<v Speaker 1>much bloody is your problem?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, streptococcal infection or something. He should have taken some

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<v Speaker 2>phenahell element, a little bit elephant.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So I started out the podcast. I figure I might

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<v Speaker 2>as well pay it off. And this is this is

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 2>pleasant and delightful. A bread making craze has begun in

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>my extended family. Oh cool, Yeah, I remember during the

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 2>pandemic when people started doing that, and so yeah, grub.

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Oddly enough, it began with a relative who has some

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 2>sensory issues, Jack, something you know about, and certainly I do,

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:27.479
<v Speaker 2>having raised an autistic daughter. But anyway, a certain homemade

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 2>bread seemed to be great, and it happens to be

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<v Speaker 2>unfreaking believably delicious. I'm going to keep things vague to

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<v Speaker 2>protect the innocent, but say my it was my uncle Morty,

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 2>and we would make reference to Morty bread and how

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 2>good it was. And Morty when he would come for

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>a visit would always leave a loaf. And when I

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 2>was through with Morty bread, I was very very sad

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 2>because it was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I leave work today, Oh god, Jesus boy, you

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>know Jack? You know what, Katie, I just do you

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>want to go off and do our own thing? Could we?

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Would you take me? Wouldn't ever? Yeah, Michael, you're higher

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and here you can watch Jack. We're out of here,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you can you guess is going to be like?

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<v Speaker 2>And this, this is this happened to me at least

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 2>once in my youth. It was explained to me, Hey,

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>the band just got a break up. We just we

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<v Speaker 2>can't do this and it's too much trouble to do that.

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 2>And so we're breaking up. And then a week later here,

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 2>yeah they're playing he just got a different dude played

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<v Speaker 2>your instrument.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah. Wow, So that's what we're doing

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to Jack right now. Yeah. We I'm really not gonna

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>do it radio anymore.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 3>That's like the they break up with you because I

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 3>just I just don't think I should be in a

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.239
<v Speaker 3>relationship right now. And then you see them walking down

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 3>the street holding hands with somebody. Yeah, next weekend. Oh okay, Oh,

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm going into bread making. You guys have fun. Okay,

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 3>the bread making, I am that's something I would like

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 3>to actually learn how to do one because I love

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 3>homemade bread and it just seems like could be a

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 3>cool craft.

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<v Speaker 2>And I pronounced, having enjoyed some bread, and then switched

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<v Speaker 2>back to the regular stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's just so much better.

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>And so Judy got a new mixer because our old

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 2>mixer's motor was kind of funky. And so now she's

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>got this big, like industry looking mixer. And she made

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 2>a couple of loafs of what's known as the mort

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 2>He Bred. And my lost student daughter made herself some bread,

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 2>although one of her two cats stepped on the bread

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 2>as it was proofing, which I guess means rising or something. Yeah,

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>And so one of the loaves is robust and very

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>healthy looking, and the other loaf is really.

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<v Speaker 1>Just excuse me loaf, because I can't ruined it, damn cats.

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>The cat stepped on the bread. But you're gonna go

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.479
<v Speaker 1>ahead and make it anyway, doesn't that mean?

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you put it in the oven at

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty degrees for a half an hour

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is.

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>It's fine. I don't know that I want letterbox bread. Yeah,

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>this tastes a little like whatever a cat walks through. Well, now,

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 2>Having baby sat my daughter's cats for three weeks over Christmas,

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>she does occasionally get ready the bleeper. She doesn't occasionally

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>refer to their s mittens because they.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they pooh out, they poo in the box,

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>then they walk out of the box. Sure, that's that's see,

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not a tasty term. Like they dip their taws

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and some paus and some sort of disinfectant on their

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>way out. Must clean the palls after one poos you there, No,

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't do that. That's a great term.

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 3>It is, and discuss we've got cats and Michael there,

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to use that term patting around in mittens

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 3>all over your house.

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start calling people mittens. This is great, Oh

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>my goodness, this is many charming folks. I apologize. I

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>work at this guy and working with and told me

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the other day, but a bunch of mittens around here?

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Why do I put up with it?

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 4>I know?

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Anyway? Where was I?

0:27:58.760 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna talk out the various things that are

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>so far superior in their homemade version, right, but we've

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of drifted so far away from it. Like I

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>brewed beer for a while. My brother brewis beer and

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>it's so good.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 2>He's actually got the cooler with two taps, and anytime

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>we visit his house he has home brewed beer in

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 2>kegs on tap.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, icy cold on his patio. It's ridiculous.

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's so although if I lived like that, I

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>would be a flaming alcoholic in three hundred and seventy

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>five pounds. But if there's a downside, but I'd be

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>happy and I wouldn't be thinking about my problems, and

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 2>people would be more interesting.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>But bread might be at the top of the list.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Beer is close. I say cookies, and I'm a bit

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of a purest, maybe a bit of a pain in

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the ass. I know that's hard to imagine. I will

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>not eat store bought cookies. I just I won't because

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the calories and the taste.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh, those cookies that I sent you guys, the

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<v Speaker 4>picture of o her break that I made.

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>They were so I know. Homemade cookie is it's it's

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's like sex. It's so good.

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade butter,

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 3>and homemade butter is just so much better than what

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 3>he did in the store.

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like a different thing you for each brother. I

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't know if you put homemade, and I had forgotten

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>how good it was. So this field trip my son

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>went on to a couple of years ago, they churn buttered.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>They I spent more time churning than the kids did,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>but as I was one of the chaperones, but I

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 3>turned up the exactly their weedy little arms. I turned

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 3>up the butter, and I'd forgotten how good it is.

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>You put homemade butter on homemade bread and you have

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>a flip and treat right there.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds wonderful. I'm guessing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, I'm just I'm in the process of trying

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 4>to make sour dough bread because that's my favorite oh

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 4>of life, and I haven't.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I haven't gotten it down yet because it's complicated.

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>But we missed the whole getting a starter going during

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>COVID thing I wish we had. But yeah, Jack, I'm

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>sure there are semi overpriced like electric butter turns you

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>can get from you know, sharper imagure whatever.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 3>We did it the old timy away with a look

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 3>like the thing you've seen in old timey movies with

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 3>a stick in a cylinder with a hole on the top.

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>It kind of looks a little sexual. But I mean,

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you're you're doing this thing. Sometimes a cigar is just

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a cigar. But yeah, homemade butter, that's that's what you

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta add. You have homemade bread with homemade butter. Oh wow,

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>got to do it. I'm looking at how to make

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>homemade butter. It doesn't look that difficult. It's not hard

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>at all. I'm going to try it today. Do it, yeah,

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and then report back. Oh so good, Get me a

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>tub not that sort of stuff to and sell over

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>there at the store. Oh, I know it, I know it.

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 5>My mom bakes bread and she's the sweetest woman ever.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 5>But when her yeast doesn't rise, f bombs.

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Stay to the kitchen man In Danger, Danger, Armstrong and

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the Armstrong and Getti Show.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 3>My son was playing the drums at the high school

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>basketball game, the first time I've watched him do it

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>at the basketball game, and I hadn't been banned situation drumline.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 3>So it's just all drums. But first time I've been

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 3>inside a small high school gym watching a game with

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 3>all that goes on with that in many, many decades.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It hasn't changed a bit. Really. It was a lot

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>more people staring at their phones than the last time I.

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Nobody was staring at some piece of equipment in their

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>hand back the last time I was in a gym.

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, it was all the same.

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 3>And I wish this weren't true. I know this makes

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 3>me a crazy person, but I get just as uncomfortable.

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I was just as uncomfortable last night being in that

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 3>gym as I was when I was in a high

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 3>school myself, and all the dynamics of high school and

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 3>everything that goes on with that and everything, and how

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>much I hated it, and how how it just freaked

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>me out. I feel exactly the same way now, and

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's it's some sort of PTSD, right, It's

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>got to be, because obviously I don't need to know

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 3>if the cool group thinks I've got the right shoes

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 3>on or anything now.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, And your shoes are lovely, by the way, We're

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 2>all just commenting on what nice shoes you have.

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Whatever the stupid moronic dynamics of high school are you know?

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>It's it's absolutely anthropological.

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 2>It's at the point that you're really becoming in charge

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>of keeping your DNA alive. You take in data about

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 2>what's a danger, what's good, what's bad, and it burns

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>permanent pathways in your head so you don't have to

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 2>be reminded of it again just to survive.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I wouldn't call being in.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 2>The same room with your your first love PTSD good,

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 2>But does that bring on a lot of emotion?

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a good loan, that's that's a pretty good. That's

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. That's per charitable and pretty good. And it's

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>so easy. I feel like the spot as I'm sitting

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>there in the gym, I can say, Okay, there's the

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>cool group. They just walked in, look at the like

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the water's part as they walk through, and everybody stared

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>hated them a little, didn't you. I don't know. I didn't.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I hated them. I don't think I

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 3>ever hated them. I was scared of them, but I

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 3>didn't hate them. Then there's there's the group that wants

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>to be them but not quite is, and there's the outliers.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 3>They're kind of standing alone over there, and they wish

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>they could be part of any group.

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>And you can. You can just see all the dynamics

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of high school just right there in front of you.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>You're freaking everyone out. This is making me really uncomfortable,

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>which proves your point.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Now's your chance, Jack. You see that cool group, you

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>can tell them off. Listen, you think you're so cool. See,

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I never, I don't. I didn't have that feeling.

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Then I don't have that feeling. Now tell them off

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>for what? How dare you be attractive and have good

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>personalities and good at something?

0:33:58.720 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 5>How?

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And screw you? I'm I didn't feel that way them.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel that way, and that's healthy, that's right.

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>You gotta tear them down. Life is a zero some game.

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Their happiness is your unhappiness. Look at your DEI training.

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>If they have something, it's because they stole it. There's

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>no such thing as merits. There's a certain amount of

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>happiness to go around. There was a particular guy and

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>girl that walked in high school. Guy and girl and

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>he was he looked like like something from a TV show,

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>and she was stunning and it was just like the

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>attention they got when they came over to the bleachers

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and kind of just sat wherever they wanted. Everybody moved

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>out of the way, and it's just something to see.

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>What is it with human beings? I don't know, do

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>bears do the same thing.

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're sitting there eating their berries or overturning

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.959
<v Speaker 2>trash cans or something. Then a really hot looking bear

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 2>and her big bear mate come along. Oh my god,

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 2>look at them. Yeah, he could be a movie star.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You and they looked so comfortable and in charge of

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the world, like things could never be better. And then

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<v Speaker 1>all the other peop people you could see the angst

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<v Speaker 1>on their face. So not all of them, but certain

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<v Speaker 1>groups of people. Is just like you know, looking around

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to how should I walk, how should I sit?

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<v Speaker 1>How should I whatever? You know that goes on when

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<v Speaker 1>you're that age. Just oh my god. I wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>through that again for any amount of money. Like observing a.

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<v Speaker 2>Band of chimps in the forest lest pooh chucking, thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't And one other thing before we got

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<v Speaker 3>to get to Katie's headlines, I don't know. My brother

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<v Speaker 3>was telling me about how like his daughter is a

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<v Speaker 3>super stud of high school girls basketball player, and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>girls basketball is so much better now than it was

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<v Speaker 3>like when we were younger.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different thing, but so is the boys.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, this boy's high school team, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if my high school team could score a.

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<v Speaker 1>Basket on these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Has everything just gotten that much better because of youth

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<v Speaker 3>sports or emphasis on sports or something?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, more professionalized. Everything's more professional.

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<v Speaker 2>Games are not to be played for fun, there to

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<v Speaker 2>be excelled at to game of scholarship.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was a completely different level than the last

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<v Speaker 3>time I was in a high school gym, which was

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<v Speaker 3>a very very long time. I was in Black and White,

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty