1 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and 3 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Jetty and He Armstrong and Getty Strong and the Independence Day. 4 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: It's the fourth of July and it's the Armstrong and 5 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Getty replay featuring bits and pieces of our podcast, Armstrong 6 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: and Geddy. One more thing, don't miss a single moment. 7 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Get every episode on the iHeart app and wherever you 8 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Don't Happy Be Worried. It's one more thing. 9 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: What I was reminded of the Bobby McFerrin classic Don't 10 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Worry Be Happy the other day as it was listed 11 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: on the Worst Songs of the nineties. 12 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: I guess something that very popular. It was a cute 13 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: little ditty. It's fine. I don't know, it's fine. 14 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: People love, you know, slamming other people's choices in music 15 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: too much. 16 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I gotta hate on being happy? Yeah, right, exactly. 17 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: But don't Happy Be Worried is the theme kind of 18 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: sort of a really interesting study that's out. 19 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Researchers from the. 20 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: University of Toronto, Scarborough and University of Sydney, the Canuckers 21 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: joining up with the Australians. Trump will be you know, 22 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: annexing them both soon. But anyway, for now, we'll let 23 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: them have their cute little universities. 24 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: But they they right. 25 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: We live in a happiness obsessed world. Self help guru's 26 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: promise paths to Bliss, Instagram influencers pedal. Happiness is a lifestyle, 27 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: and corporations build marketing campaigns around the pursuit of positive emotions. 28 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: But new research suggests, say surprising twist. 29 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: I doubt yeah exactly. 30 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Trying to art to be happy might make you miserable. 31 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: The researchers that the aforementioned universities found that actively pursuing 32 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: happiness drains our mental energy, the same energy we need 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: for self control, among other things. Says the researcher, the 34 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: pursuit of happiness is a bit like a snowball effect. 35 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: You decide to try making yourself happier, but then that 36 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: effort deplete your ability to do the kinds of things 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 2: that actually make you happier. 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, there's the key right there. What kind 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: of things actually make you happy? 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: So among my favorite books I've ever read in my 41 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: life the Art of Happiness by the Dali Lama, which 42 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: he says, your goal every morning when you wake. 43 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: Up should be to make yourself happy. You should spend 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: all your time trying to make yourself happy. That's what 45 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: you should do. 46 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: But it gets down to the data on what makes 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: you happy and what doesn't. And many, many of the 48 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: things we all do every single day don't make us happy. 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: They've never made us happy. We have ample evidence from 50 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: our own experience, let alone other people's experience, that it 51 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: doesn't make us happy, yet we continue doing it, like 52 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: eating bad food or buying stuff, or promiscuous sex or 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: whatever it is. It has never made us in the happy, 54 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: It doesn't make other people happy, yet we keep thinking 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: that's what's gonna make us happy. So pursuing happiness every 56 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: day is okay. You just need to define what makes 57 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: people actually makes people happy. 58 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: Maybe this is the key. Pleasure is not happiness. Fun 59 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: is not happiness, right, it can be part of it. 60 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: We mentioned all them. No life of purpose is what 61 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: makes people happy? Yeah? Yeah, happy happy. You wake up 62 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: determined to have a great day. 63 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: You plan mood boosting activities and work hard to stay positive, 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: but by evening you're ordering takeout instead of cooking. Mindlessly 65 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: scrolling social media and snapping at your partner, while your 66 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: pursuit of happiness might be the problem. The scientist marketing 67 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: professor puts it bluntly. Quote, the more mentally run down 68 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: we are, the more tempted will be to skip cleaning 69 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: the house and instead scroll social media. 70 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: And they're saying the same thing as the Dalai Lama says, 71 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: I just I like the way he words it. It's 72 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: a little more positive. Pursue happiness all day, every day. 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: That should be your goal in life, that should be 74 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: everybody's goal. But now let's break down what actually makes 75 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: people happy, as opposed to saying don't pursue happiness, because 76 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: then it seems like it's a gotta eat my vegetables, 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: gotta you know, all negative stuff and maybe there'll be 78 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: a payoff. 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: In the end. Right. 80 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: It's like the difference between pursuing money and pursuing the 81 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: skills that will make you money. In a way, Katie, 82 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: do you have something you want to jump in with? 83 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: You look thoughtful. 84 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: I I'm kind of overthinking this, I think Okay, to 85 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: be honest, Well, it's. 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: It's amazing that human beings do things that make themselves 87 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: unhappy all the time, all the time. It's just like 88 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: one of the most common things we do is do 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: things that make us unhappy. Eat stuff that's gonna make 90 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: us either feel bad in the moment or make us 91 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: feel bad long term, or you know, pursue relationships that 92 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: we know aren't good. But there's either sex, prestige, whatever 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: that that makes you do it. Just we regularly chase 94 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: things that we know are bad for us, right right. 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: My brain was going with, like, things you don't want 96 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: to do, but the payoff in the end is good. 97 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: Oh, the simplest one is the stirring at your phone. 98 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: Nobody ever, at the end of the day says I'm 99 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 3: sure glad I spent that much time scrolling on my phone. 100 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Nobody ever, not even for one day, right right. 101 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: I was just going to contrast doom scrolling on Twitter, 102 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: which I have the compulsion to do and I resist 103 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: pretty well most times, versus the other day. I mean, 104 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: this is as mundane as can be. I cleaned out 105 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: my closet. I went through it thin, the herd of clothing, 106 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: you know, shoes that don't where, etc. It's neater, it's 107 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: better organized. It's just it's better. And that made me happy, 108 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: right Like happy. Yeah, like today, I was not pleasurable. 109 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: I would love to lay on my couch all day, 110 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: but I know I have laundry to do, and when 111 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: I get it done, I'm going to be happy that 112 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: it's done. 113 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I. 114 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: Was just reading an obituary of a fella that I 115 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: barely knew, and it was post retirement, I'm pretty sure. 116 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: But he filled his life with the Boys and Girls 117 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Club of the area where he lived, and it was 118 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: really pivotal in guiding them through difficult financial times and 119 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: growing the programs and stuff like that. I'll bet there 120 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: was very little of that that was pleasurable. Some of 121 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: it was because watching kids learn and grow is immensely satisfying, 122 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 2: but there's a hell of a lot of work there, 123 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: and I guarantee that made him happy to his soul. 124 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 5: I think the best happiness comes from accomplishments. It could 125 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: be like mowing the grass. Like you're pushing the mower 126 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 5: and you look back and you see what you've done, 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: and then when you're all finished, you look at and you think, hey, 128 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 5: I'm really feeling happy. 129 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: So why then, evolutionary speaking, why are we is our 130 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: body screaming out to now mow the lawn tomorrow, lay 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: on on the couch watching this football game is what. 132 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: It's going to make me happy. Even though you're absolutely right. Afterwards, 133 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: I think, why did I watch? I don't even care 134 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: about these two teams as opposed to you'll feel happy 135 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: after you all the one. 136 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: Well, the greatest minds of our time are devoted toward 137 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: getting you to do things for pleasure for their profit 138 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 2: in a way. 139 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: That didn't exist. 140 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: I mean even two hundred years ago there's advertisement, but 141 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: it was not nearly as effective, manipulative and scientifically based 142 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: as modern you know, like like Facebook, TikTok. My god, 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: we as a species don't stand a chance against that 144 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: sort of neurological manipul. 145 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've noticed recently. I don't know if my well, 146 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: I just I guess I just started doing the Instagram 147 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: reels thing. I'd never done it beforeth It's kind of 148 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: the American version of TikTok, I guess. Anyway. 149 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: What's disappointing to me is it's not like doom scrolling 150 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: or something where I think why did I do that? 151 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: Or it's pretty good, it's pretty enjoyable. It feeds me 152 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: lots of stuff. 153 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: I really like, I mean like really like, here's some 154 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: rare concert footage that it figured out i'd be into 155 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: that I've never seen before and stuff like that. But 156 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: it kills a freaking hour where I should either been 157 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: sleeping or exercising or whatever. So it's actually it's actually enjoyable, 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: like really enjoyable in the time. So that's what I 159 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: got to fight now is not even start. I am 160 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: going to further parse language. 161 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: You got pleasure, you got happiness, and Michael, to your point, 162 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: you have satisfaction. Maybe that's another word to think about 163 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: happiness and satisfaction as opposed to pleasure. 164 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: If you don't say you're retired and you don't really 165 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: need to accomplish anything. 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: That's when it's the most important, according to everybody I've 167 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: talked to, to have some purpose. 168 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: You don't think you could just look at Instagram reels 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: feeding your stuff that you actually enjoy and be okay, 170 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: or would you be miserable. 171 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: You'll be dead soon. I don't know. I can't state 172 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: that you know with confidence, but. 173 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: I've read a fair amount about retirement, which is funny 174 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: because I don't know. 175 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: Probably like my job too much. 176 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, if you're the sort of person who just 177 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: retires and you have nothing to do. 178 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: It makes people miserable even if you have things to do. 179 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: You have TikTok. You have something to do. And the 180 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: golf course, I just play golf. I look at TikTok 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: Cup of the morning. I go play golf again that 182 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: I look at TikTok. 183 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've since I started on Instagram reels. It's in 184 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 3: the TikTok algorithm. Scares me if it's substantially better. Like 185 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: I was listening to Sarah Iger of The Dispatch saying, 186 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: if you think Instagram reels is addictive, you have no idea. 187 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: Because she got sucked into TikTok and then got it 188 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: off her phone. She says, just so good. It's just 189 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: every day stuff. I love that. I'm super into. 190 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: My daughter did the same thing. That's why I feel 191 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: with Instagram reels, like, man, is it good? With coming 192 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: up stuff that I like? S and l clips, concert videos, 193 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: stuff that I just love. But you can't, you know, 194 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: want to live their life doing that. 195 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, Lord knows, I've lived a checkered life. 196 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: But one gift that I got somehow or other, And 197 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: this may shock you folks. I used to take walks 198 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: on the wild side now and again, not in the 199 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: lou reads and it's not gender bending madness, but you know, 200 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: occasionally in the I could roll a world of the 201 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: eighties and nineties, there were substances about and there are 202 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: a couple of experiences I had where I thought, no, 203 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: I like this too much. 204 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it is with the tickety talk. 205 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: From what I've heard, you realize I am powerless against this. 206 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like an endless. 207 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: They provide you endless entertainment on there, especially when they 208 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: figure out what you like. 209 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you could do that. 210 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: For hours that I wonder if that's what happened. I 211 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 3: wonder if I spend enough time on Instagram that it 212 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: was able to Okay, now we know we got him 213 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: figured out. Yeah, because it just seems like in the 214 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: last week or so, it's like really grabbed me. 215 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: Well, And what sucks about that is because I thought, 216 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: I I'm a dumb ass. I thought I could outsmart 217 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 4: the algorithm because I thought, maybe if I don't interact 218 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: with any posts, you don't like anything. 219 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't interact with any of them, but it picks 220 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: up your eyeballs or no, it picks up your watch time. 221 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: So if you so like let's say you're scrolling, you 222 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: stop on a video and you spend the time to 223 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: watch that video, the algorithm goes, Okay, we kept him 224 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 4: here for such and such a. 225 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: Second because I didn't click on it. I didn't do anything. 226 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: It was just part of a stream. 227 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: It's just because you watched it. I am going to 228 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: rewatch on YouTube. The social dilemma. The thing is so 229 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: good documentary, Jack, you gotta watch that. You got it, 230 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: You just gotta. 231 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: Can They put it in twenty second chunks on a 232 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: Instagram reel. 233 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: Jeez, we can't save him? Was I gonna say? I 234 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: had one more thing to say about this. It's just 235 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: how good it is at figuring out stuff that you 236 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: really really like. It's it's troubling, actually, and there's stuff 237 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: that it would have been hard for me to find, 238 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: like on my own. Oh I was. 239 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: I was thinking about they fixed what used to be. 240 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're old enough for this or not. 241 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: Katie. 242 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: You probably are back when you used to. You want something, 243 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: You sit down, you think, how do I have one 244 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty channels and there's nothing I like? Here 245 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: you click through and there's nothing you like. They fixed that. 246 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: It's the opposite. Now you like every single thing on 247 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: every channel. They know exactly what you're into. They got 248 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: your sports thing, your music thing, your kid's thing. You're 249 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: just every every channel is something you love as you 250 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: click through. It's the exact opposite of what he used 251 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: to be. 252 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: Right, Leggy blonde guitar players playing golf, constant videos, sexy 253 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: golfing guitarists giving me lessons. 254 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: With a dog doing something funny and a kid doing 255 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: something cute. Yes, yes, see. 256 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 5: If you guys agree with this, false happiness comes immediately, 257 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 5: Real happiness comes later. 258 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: You have to wait for real happy. Pretty much always 259 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: is the case. You The Armstrong and Getdy Show. Yeah, 260 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: more Jack, your show podcasts and our Hot Lakes The 261 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getdy Show. 262 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of doing a feature. Maybe I'll do it 263 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: on Twitter someplace called did you eat worse than me today? 264 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah? 265 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: Actually my brother might be even better at that. Put 266 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 3: up against that, like take it at the end of 267 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: the day, take a look at what he ate. See 268 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: if anybody ate worse that? But like yesterday, here here's 269 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: what I ate yesterday. 270 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: I had. 271 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: Uh well, I had like through almost four hours of 272 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: zoom calls with various doctors and therapists after working in 273 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: a variety of other things. So it's just constantly running 274 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: around stressful pain and the ass. 275 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Stuff and to make a person completely insane. But anyway, 276 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: so I just running from one thing to another thing 277 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: to another thing and having to make major decisions of 278 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: this or so. But so I went through drive through, 279 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: got four cheeseburgers and McDonald's and then I went home 280 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: and washed that down with some chocolate birthday cake. So 281 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: that was like the major portion of my eating yesterday. Wow. 282 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: And uh, I just I thought, does anybody, especially my age, 283 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: eating as poorly as me? And how is my body 284 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: just not stopped? Just said, all right, if you don't care, 285 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: we don't care. Drop dead. You know, there's probably somebody 286 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: out there that can best you. But you know, I'm 287 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: guessing there like a six hundred pound trucker or something 288 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: like that. I can't beget us. I tell you what 289 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking to you yesterday. 290 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: I was fighting through one of those miserable situations where 291 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: the tax guy says, you've got to have this form 292 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: I tind to do with a health savings account. 293 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: Oh ah, and the. 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: Benefits people at the one of the fabulous and patriotic 295 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: American corporations that we're associated with. Theoretically they have this 296 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: form theoretically, but you got to get signed in. I 297 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: sign in two accounts that have that same user ID 298 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: every day, every day. But apparently for this sub account, 299 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: that user that password does not count. So it was 300 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: a back and forth with Benefits and HR with various 301 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: double authenticated signing codes and the rest of it. And 302 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: it was my brilliant wife, myself, my iPhone, my iPad, 303 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: and my MacBook. 304 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: All involved in an all ferens. It's like a Mike 305 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Lyons is always talking about how you have to have 306 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: the infantry and air support and artillery and tanks and 307 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: logistics to win the war of getting this heffing form. 308 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: And I thought, there you are trying to deal with 309 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: the fellas, and I salute you. You scrambling parents everywhere. 310 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: It's not easy, you know. 311 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, God dang it. 312 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: So I mentioned the other day about trying to get 313 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: my son on the Hot Lunch. You finally want to 314 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: eat the hot lunch. And it's a different website that 315 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: uses a different log in that has a different password, 316 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: that is. 317 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: A it has a different log in, because you can't 318 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: have the Russians stealing the secrets of. 319 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: Our fish stack. But I'm surprised, no what he's made 320 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: the argument, maybe I'll do this because maybe it would 321 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: help that this has got to be especially tough on 322 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: people with lesser education and lesser resources, people that don't 323 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: have iPads and iPhones and college degrees in everything like that. 324 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: How are they supposed to navigate this crap. 325 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: To take advantage of, you know, your various things that 326 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: you can do in the modern world. You gotta throw 327 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: in people of color. If you don't, you're a fool. 328 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: Whatever it would take to try to streamline this stuff. 329 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: Our native peoples have been shown to have seventy eight 330 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: percent more trouble finding their password yes than white people. 331 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Throw that nobody will check it. Nobody checks any of 332 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: this crap. I love that angle. 333 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start working that angle to see if I 334 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: can get things fixed. 335 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: Armstrong and get you you you, what the hell are 336 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: you talking about? Well, pressure, this is the Armstrong and 337 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: Getty Show, the Armstrong and Getty Show. What. 338 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've got a pretty good immune system 339 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: for stuff like normal diseases that go around. I usually 340 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: don't get them. What would it be like if I 341 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: ate better? I might be impenetrable. 342 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: You could be well, you're you're just at the tail 343 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: and raising little kids. Now you have teenagers, so you 344 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: have been enrolled in the marine boot camp right of 345 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: immune systems raising children. So I've got a number of 346 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: people in my orbit who take nothing when they get 347 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: a cold. They don't they believe it's all bs, and 348 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: they don't take anything. I take a few things. 349 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: Do you take anything? Do you think anything works? Katie's 350 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: nodding her head. We'll start with you. I take theraflu. 351 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: You take theraflu. I have found that to work. I 352 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: don't care if it's PLACEBIA. If I suffer from PLACEBIA, 353 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: doesn't matter to me. As long as I feel better. 354 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: I don't need anybody to tell me it doesn't. Actually, 355 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: I don't care. I feel better. Do you take anything 356 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: like tile and all or I view profen. At one 357 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: point I was down with the zinc. 358 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I couldn't figure out what form, and I 359 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: just kind of remember when nobody got a cold during COVID. Yeah, 360 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: I've fallen out of I don't remember what to do anymore. 361 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: I got a bottle of uh, it's you know something 362 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: or other they say take when a cold first you 363 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 3: first start to get the symptoms of a cold, and 364 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: it's zinc and a couple other things. And I don't 365 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: know if they do anything, but I feel like if 366 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: I take that, if I do get the cold, it's 367 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: much milder. 368 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: Again, might be in my head, I don't care. I 369 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: also use zycham, yeah, which is awesome. I've heard people 370 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: recommend sinuses and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. 371 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: I tend not to trust my own experience because the 372 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: data set isn't big enough. 373 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know. 374 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: I have no information that there's anything wrong with taking 375 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: that stuff, and what the hell it worst is harmless? 376 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: But you're not a take nothing guy or no, I am, 377 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: pretty much, although I'm thinking now that you mentioned it, 378 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: maybe I'll take some tile and all or something. I 379 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: actually my symptoms aren't that bad other than just overwhelming 380 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: fatigue at this point. 381 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 5: Now, do you guys take niq will And that's what 382 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 5: I do, and I go to sleep afraid of it. 383 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: You're afraid of night time niquil? Yeah, Well, with our hours, 384 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't. 385 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: If I wake up groggy or oversleep, that's not good. 386 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. 387 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 3: Alcoholics are not supposed to take NyQuil because it's basically 388 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: taken a shot alcohol to help sleep. 389 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't for the reason Katie cided. I just 390 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: it's hard enough to get up in the morning and 391 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: be semi sharp. Yeah, listeners of the first hour of 392 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: the radio showing not very sharp. 393 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: One thing with giving your kids stuff, you kind of 394 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: have a better gauge of whether it's actually doing anything 395 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: or not, especially when they're little. They're too young to 396 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: like and uh, most stuff I don't think does much. 397 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: All right? Oh yeah, absolutely. 398 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: Remember when that one thing that was ubiquitous on the 399 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: still it drug store shelves of America. 400 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: It's still in every freaking drug I buy, Every cold 401 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: medicine you buy still has that fenel en run or 402 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: whatever it's called in it. And the government announced it 403 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: does nothing. We're completely different. The FDA said it does 404 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 3: zero zero, it's a nothing and it's an iri cold medicine. 405 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: Still, you're wasting your time on the fenel helamelo melo 406 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: till right, yes, hell, well, how do you say it? Katie? 407 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: Looking at it? But so it's on yours. What are 408 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: you looking at right there? 409 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: This is DayQuil. When I had this flu last. 410 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: Time around, I took everything under the sun that I 411 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 4: could get my hands on because I was trying to 412 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 4: get rid of that crap. 413 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in here too. Every cold medicine in every 414 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: aisle of every store that sells cold medicine has drugs 415 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: full of that, and the government announced it doesn't do anything. 416 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: I just think that's weird, just counting on that people 417 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: don't know. 418 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: It's because it's funny to say, oh, yeah, yeah, well, 419 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: the percentage of people you know. Honestly, we've posed this 420 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: question in many contexts in recent days and through the years. 421 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: What percentage of Americans? One of us will ask the 422 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: other do you think knows that anything story or or anything? Yeah, 423 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: And in this case, what percentage do you think could 424 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: tell you? Oh, yeah, Fennel elephant here is it's it 425 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: was worthless. I remember that news story be a very 426 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: very small number. 427 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: I suppose you're right. Okay, this says Feda left freen 428 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: FENI la Freene. That's the way he sat. 429 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: Okay, Fennel left Frene fenelefrine, I like, your guys, is 430 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: better than elephant. 431 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: Well, since it doesn't do anything, I'll call whatever I 432 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: want to call it. It's a bunch of wowches, hilarious. 433 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: What you got too much blood in your body is 434 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: your problem? 435 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 4: Right? 436 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: You got to bleed your feet. You don't have the 437 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: uh stomach to actually slice open your own feet. Isn't 438 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: that what killed George Washington? You? Yeah, well it hastened 439 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: his death certainly. Yeah, I don't know why. 440 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a bit of a history freak and a 441 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: bit of a medical history hobbyist and a great admirer 442 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: of George Washington. That was I listened with rapt attention 443 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: and like committed it all the memory there in his 444 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: bedroom where he died, as you're there by his bedside, 445 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: probably a recreation. But and they explained that, yeah, he 446 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: had what did they think he had? I can't remember 447 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: the disease. I didn't memorize it that effectively, obviously, But 448 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: the doctors in he probably did not have aids uh. 449 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: He was an honorable and elderly man. 450 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: Anyway, that the doctors in treating him for what was 451 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: probably whatever the hell, just kept saying, yeah, we got 452 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: to bleed the feet and let out the bad humors, 453 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: and he'd like grally a little bit, and they'd think, yeah, 454 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: we probably ought to bleed his feet more. 455 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: He died. What if you don't have enough red blood 456 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: cells anemia? He probably died. And it was all that 457 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: for a throat infection, is what the interwebs said. Too 458 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: much bloody is your problem? 459 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, streptococcal infection or something. He should have taken some 460 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: phenahell element, a little bit elephant. 461 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 5: Uh. 462 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: So I started out the podcast. I figure I might 463 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: as well pay it off. And this is this is 464 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: pleasant and delightful. A bread making craze has begun in 465 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: my extended family. Oh cool, Yeah, I remember during the 466 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: pandemic when people started doing that, and so yeah, grub. 467 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: Oddly enough, it began with a relative who has some 468 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: sensory issues, Jack, something you know about, and certainly I do, 469 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: having raised an autistic daughter. But anyway, a certain homemade 470 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: bread seemed to be great, and it happens to be 471 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: unfreaking believably delicious. I'm going to keep things vague to 472 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: protect the innocent, but say my it was my uncle Morty, 473 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: and we would make reference to Morty bread and how 474 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: good it was. And Morty when he would come for 475 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: a visit would always leave a loaf. And when I 476 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: was through with Morty bread, I was very very sad 477 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: because it was so good. 478 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Before I leave work today, Oh god, Jesus boy, you 479 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: know Jack? You know what, Katie, I just do you 480 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: want to go off and do our own thing? Could we? 481 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Would you take me? Wouldn't ever? Yeah, Michael, you're higher 482 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: and here you can watch Jack. We're out of here, 483 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: you can you guess is going to be like? 484 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: And this, this is this happened to me at least 485 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: once in my youth. It was explained to me, Hey, 486 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: the band just got a break up. We just we 487 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: can't do this and it's too much trouble to do that. 488 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: And so we're breaking up. And then a week later here, 489 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: yeah they're playing he just got a different dude played 490 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: your instrument. 491 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. Wow, So that's what we're doing 492 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: to Jack right now. Yeah. We I'm really not gonna 493 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: do it radio anymore. 494 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: That's like the they break up with you because I 495 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: just I just don't think I should be in a 496 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 3: relationship right now. And then you see them walking down 497 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: the street holding hands with somebody. Yeah, next weekend. Oh okay, Oh, 498 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: I'm going into bread making. You guys have fun. Okay, 499 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 3: the bread making, I am that's something I would like 500 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: to actually learn how to do one because I love 501 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: homemade bread and it just seems like could be a 502 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: cool craft. 503 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: And I pronounced, having enjoyed some bread, and then switched 504 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: back to the regular stuff. 505 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just so much better. 506 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: And so Judy got a new mixer because our old 507 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: mixer's motor was kind of funky. And so now she's 508 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: got this big, like industry looking mixer. And she made 509 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: a couple of loafs of what's known as the mort 510 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: He Bred. And my lost student daughter made herself some bread, 511 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: although one of her two cats stepped on the bread 512 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: as it was proofing, which I guess means rising or something. Yeah, 513 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: And so one of the loaves is robust and very 514 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: healthy looking, and the other loaf is really. 515 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: Just excuse me loaf, because I can't ruined it, damn cats. 516 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: The cat stepped on the bread. But you're gonna go 517 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: ahead and make it anyway, doesn't that mean? 518 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 519 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you put it in the oven at 520 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty degrees for a half an hour 521 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: or whatever it is. 522 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: It's fine. I don't know that I want letterbox bread. Yeah, 523 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: this tastes a little like whatever a cat walks through. Well, now, 524 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: I will tell you this. 525 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: Having baby sat my daughter's cats for three weeks over Christmas, 526 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: she does occasionally get ready the bleeper. She doesn't occasionally 527 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: refer to their s mittens because they. 528 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, they pooh out, they poo in the box, 529 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: then they walk out of the box. Sure, that's that's see, 530 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: that's not a tasty term. Like they dip their taws 531 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: and some paus and some sort of disinfectant on their 532 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: way out. Must clean the palls after one poos you there, No, 533 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: they don't do that. That's a great term. 534 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 3: It is, and discuss we've got cats and Michael there, 535 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to use that term patting around in mittens 536 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: all over your house. 537 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start calling people mittens. This is great, Oh 538 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: my goodness, this is many charming folks. I apologize. I 539 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: work at this guy and working with and told me 540 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: the other day, but a bunch of mittens around here? 541 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: Why do I put up with it? 542 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 4: I know? 543 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: Anyway? Where was I? 544 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: Oh? 545 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna talk out the various things that are 546 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: so far superior in their homemade version, right, but we've 547 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: kind of drifted so far away from it. Like I 548 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: brewed beer for a while. My brother brewis beer and 549 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: it's so good. 550 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: He's actually got the cooler with two taps, and anytime 551 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: we visit his house he has home brewed beer in 552 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: kegs on tap. 553 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Wow, icy cold on his patio. It's ridiculous. 554 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so although if I lived like that, I 555 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: would be a flaming alcoholic in three hundred and seventy 556 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: five pounds. But if there's a downside, but I'd be 557 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: happy and I wouldn't be thinking about my problems, and 558 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: people would be more interesting. 559 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: But bread might be at the top of the list. 560 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: Beer is close. I say cookies, and I'm a bit 561 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: of a purest, maybe a bit of a pain in 562 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: the ass. I know that's hard to imagine. I will 563 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: not eat store bought cookies. I just I won't because 564 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: the calories and the taste. 565 00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 5: No. 566 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, those cookies that I sent you guys, the 567 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 4: picture of o her break that I made. 568 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: They were so I know. Homemade cookie is it's it's 569 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: it's just it's like sex. It's so good. 570 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: I grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade butter, 571 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: and homemade butter is just so much better than what 572 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: he did in the store. 573 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: It's like a different thing you for each brother. I 574 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't know if you put homemade, and I had forgotten 575 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: how good it was. So this field trip my son 576 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: went on to a couple of years ago, they churn buttered. 577 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: They I spent more time churning than the kids did, 578 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: but as I was one of the chaperones, but I 579 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: turned up the exactly their weedy little arms. I turned 580 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: up the butter, and I'd forgotten how good it is. 581 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: You put homemade butter on homemade bread and you have 582 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: a flip and treat right there. 583 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: That sounds wonderful. I'm guessing. 584 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm just I'm in the process of trying 585 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: to make sour dough bread because that's my favorite oh 586 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: of life, and I haven't. 587 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten it down yet because it's complicated. 588 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: But we missed the whole getting a starter going during 589 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: COVID thing I wish we had. But yeah, Jack, I'm 590 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: sure there are semi overpriced like electric butter turns you 591 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: can get from you know, sharper imagure whatever. 592 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: We did it the old timy away with a look 593 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: like the thing you've seen in old timey movies with 594 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: a stick in a cylinder with a hole on the top. 595 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: It kind of looks a little sexual. But I mean, 596 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: you're you're doing this thing. Sometimes a cigar is just 597 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: a cigar. But yeah, homemade butter, that's that's what you 598 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: gotta add. You have homemade bread with homemade butter. Oh wow, 599 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: got to do it. I'm looking at how to make 600 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: homemade butter. It doesn't look that difficult. It's not hard 601 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: at all. I'm going to try it today. Do it, yeah, 602 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: and then report back. Oh so good, Get me a 603 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: tub not that sort of stuff to and sell over 604 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: there at the store. Oh, I know it, I know it. 605 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 5: My mom bakes bread and she's the sweetest woman ever. 606 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 5: But when her yeast doesn't rise, f bombs. 607 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Stay to the kitchen man In Danger, Danger, Armstrong and 608 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: the Armstrong and Getti Show. 609 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: My son was playing the drums at the high school 610 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: basketball game, the first time I've watched him do it 611 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: at the basketball game, and I hadn't been banned situation drumline. 612 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: So it's just all drums. But first time I've been 613 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: inside a small high school gym watching a game with 614 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: all that goes on with that in many, many decades. 615 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: It hasn't changed a bit. Really. It was a lot 616 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: more people staring at their phones than the last time I. 617 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: Nobody was staring at some piece of equipment in their 618 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: hand back the last time I was in a gym. 619 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: But other than that, it was all the same. 620 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: And I wish this weren't true. I know this makes 621 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: me a crazy person, but I get just as uncomfortable. 622 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: I was just as uncomfortable last night being in that 623 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: gym as I was when I was in a high 624 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: school myself, and all the dynamics of high school and 625 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 3: everything that goes on with that and everything, and how 626 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: much I hated it, and how how it just freaked 627 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: me out. I feel exactly the same way now, and 628 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 3: it's just it's it's some sort of PTSD, right, It's 629 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: got to be, because obviously I don't need to know 630 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: if the cool group thinks I've got the right shoes 631 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: on or anything now. 632 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: Right, And your shoes are lovely, by the way, We're 633 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: all just commenting on what nice shoes you have. 634 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: Whatever the stupid moronic dynamics of high school are you know? 635 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely anthropological. 636 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: It's at the point that you're really becoming in charge 637 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: of keeping your DNA alive. You take in data about 638 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: what's a danger, what's good, what's bad, and it burns 639 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: permanent pathways in your head so you don't have to 640 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: be reminded of it again just to survive. 641 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I wouldn't call being in. 642 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: The same room with your your first love PTSD good, 643 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: But does that bring on a lot of emotion? 644 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: That's a good loan, that's that's a pretty good. That's 645 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: pretty good. That's per charitable and pretty good. And it's 646 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: so easy. I feel like the spot as I'm sitting 647 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: there in the gym, I can say, Okay, there's the 648 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: cool group. They just walked in, look at the like 649 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: the water's part as they walk through, and everybody stared 650 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: hated them a little, didn't you. I don't know. I didn't. 651 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: I don't think I hated them. I don't think I 652 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: ever hated them. I was scared of them, but I 653 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: didn't hate them. Then there's there's the group that wants 654 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: to be them but not quite is, and there's the outliers. 655 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: They're kind of standing alone over there, and they wish 656 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: they could be part of any group. 657 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: And you can. You can just see all the dynamics 658 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: of high school just right there in front of you. 659 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: You're freaking everyone out. This is making me really uncomfortable, 660 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: which proves your point. 661 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: Now's your chance, Jack. You see that cool group, you 662 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: can tell them off. Listen, you think you're so cool. See, 663 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I never, I don't. I didn't have that feeling. 664 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: Then I don't have that feeling. Now tell them off 665 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: for what? How dare you be attractive and have good 666 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: personalities and good at something? 667 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: How? 668 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: And screw you? I'm I didn't feel that way them. 669 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't feel that way, and that's healthy, that's right. 670 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: You gotta tear them down. Life is a zero some game. 671 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Their happiness is your unhappiness. Look at your DEI training. 672 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: If they have something, it's because they stole it. There's 673 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: no such thing as merits. There's a certain amount of 674 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: happiness to go around. There was a particular guy and 675 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: girl that walked in high school. Guy and girl and 676 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: he was he looked like like something from a TV show, 677 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: and she was stunning and it was just like the 678 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: attention they got when they came over to the bleachers 679 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: and kind of just sat wherever they wanted. Everybody moved 680 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: out of the way, and it's just something to see. 681 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: What is it with human beings? I don't know, do 682 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: bears do the same thing. 683 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they're sitting there eating their berries or overturning 684 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 2: trash cans or something. Then a really hot looking bear 685 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: and her big bear mate come along. Oh my god, 686 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 2: look at them. Yeah, he could be a movie star. 687 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: You and they looked so comfortable and in charge of 688 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: the world, like things could never be better. And then 689 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: all the other peop people you could see the angst 690 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: on their face. So not all of them, but certain 691 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: groups of people. Is just like you know, looking around 692 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: and trying to how should I walk, how should I sit? 693 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: How should I whatever? You know that goes on when 694 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: you're that age. Just oh my god. I wouldn't go 695 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: through that again for any amount of money. Like observing a. 696 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 2: Band of chimps in the forest lest pooh chucking, thank goodness. 697 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: And I don't And one other thing before we got 698 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: to get to Katie's headlines, I don't know. My brother 699 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: was telling me about how like his daughter is a 700 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 3: super stud of high school girls basketball player, and he said, 701 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: girls basketball is so much better now than it was 702 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 3: like when we were younger. 703 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: It's different thing, but so is the boys. 704 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 3: I thought, this boy's high school team, I don't know 705 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: if my high school team could score a. 706 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: Basket on these guys. 707 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 3: Has everything just gotten that much better because of youth 708 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 3: sports or emphasis on sports or something? 709 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, more professionalized. Everything's more professional. 710 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: Games are not to be played for fun, there to 711 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 2: be excelled at to game of scholarship. 712 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. 713 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: But it was a completely different level than the last 714 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: time I was in a high school gym, which was 715 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 3: a very very long time. I was in Black and White, 716 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty