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Hey everybody, Welcome 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.000 to the large nerd Drunk Collider, the podcast that's all 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.600 about the geeky things happening in the world around us 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.440 and how very excited we are about them. I'm Ariel casting, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:54.480 and with me, as always is the super Jonathan Strickland. Ariel, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:02:02.160 I have a question for you, considering that we are 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:14.360 talking about super stuff, flight or invisibility. Classic question. Yeah, 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.680 so I I had I think I'm gonna have to 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.160 go with invisibility. I've had dreams all the time where 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.119 like I'm a kid and I can fly, but it's 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.400 never like high up in the air. It's always like 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.840 you start running and then you're just a foot above 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:32.360 the ground. I'm kind of afraid of heights and falling, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:37.160 so uh I I don't think i'd want to fly, However, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.680 I do LARP and invisibility would be hilarious. I would 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.880 never lose a module. What about you, You'd be peeping 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.200 in the locker room. I understand, I got you. I 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.720 know where you're coming from. You. I go with flight 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.160 because I'm not a deviant like you. I like the 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.080 idea of being able to travel wherever I want, whenever 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.480 I want, soaring through the air jestically like some sort 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.920 of bald pigeon. Yes, flight for me all the way. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.560 I'm not I'm not gonna do that whole like like 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:15.560 invisible Man, creepy motif. I'm not going to do a 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.040 creepy motif. Look, I'm just gonna hide in the woods 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.800 and jump out at people. You're right, that's I don't 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:27.600 know what I was thinking. Flying anywhere you want, any 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.680 time you want is not great because let's say you 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.680 want to fly to Hawaii. You didn't say that super 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.160 strength comes with your flights. So you're just gonna be 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.960 carrying that very heavy suitcase with you through there all 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.800 the way to Hawaii're gonna get so much perfect. I 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.920 plan on just buying everything once I get there. I'm 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.480 gonna go to first stop in Hawaii, retail outlet, mall. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:54.200 Second stop in Hawaii, the beach, maybe maybe the Pokak 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:58.480 because that that place is the bomb. Okay, well, we've 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.440 got We've got that, but we have news to cover. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.200 But before we get to any of that aerial I've 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.880 got some fast breaking news. Here's the breaking news. It's 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.920 super important. George Clooney has signed on to become an 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:18.280 executive producer and star of a TV series Buck Rogers. Okay, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.599 oh that's great. What what details do we have on that? 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.800 George Clooney has signed on to be an executive producer 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.400 and star of a new Buck Rogers TV show. That's 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.400 all I got. I guess it wasn't I guess I 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.799 wasn't that important. No, I mean it's something to possibly 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.960 look forward to, so that, you know, in a couple 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.880 of months when we get details about it, you go, oh, yeah, 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.200 I remember that. I like Buck Rogers. Did you ever 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:50.240 watch the TV series The Camp like nine seventies era? Oh? Man, 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.200 I watched that too, And whenever I think about that, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.600 I think of mel Blank doing the voice of Tweakie, 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.920 the little robot Batty Baby Batty. Uh So, I'm not 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.160 sure it's going to be the same, especially since I'm 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.880 pretty sure they're going to go back to the original 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:11.400 reference material, which doesn't have a spunky little sidekick robot. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.200 But yeah, I saw that news and thought, well, we 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.200 should include this because you know, it's it's nostalgic for 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.680 for me and you and all the young listeners out 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:27.800 there are like what Buck who that? You know what? 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.600 It's okay, because the next news item we have is 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:35.760 four young listeners, uh, which is that the Guinness Book 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:41.320 of World Records is trying to do, uh like make 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.600 is set a record of the most people singing a 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.400 song from the Greatest Showman ever. So that the idea 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.359 being that it's a it's a big collaborative effort, right, 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.040 that you're going to have the most people singing and 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:56.360 they're going to create a collaborative video of all these 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.680 different people singing a particular song from the Great Showman, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.920 which is is from now on. Uh. They are trying 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.920 to get at least five thousand participants. It is a 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.240 benefit for the Actors Fund, which, if you are not familiar, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.880 is a financial fund for the Broadway actors who really 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.360 need it right now since Broadway is still closed a 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:25.760 year later and probably will be for most of one Unfortunately, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.720 I want to go see my shows. I know me too. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.599 But as of listening to this episode, you can still 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.560 be a part. They want you to record the video 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.400 and challenge four friends using the hashtag b Way World 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.600 Record uh and shared on social media. They also say 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.440 that you can tag Broadway stars and challenge them. You 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.440 know that Hugh Jackman is going to be part of this. Yeah, 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.760 they've already got some actors committed. They've got Alice Ripley 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.720 from Next to Normal, John Tart tag Lea from Avenue Q, 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:05.440 Kristen Anderson Lopez from Frozen, and Jay Armstrong Johnson from 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.760 Family the Opera. Uh, you can be a part of 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.480 this up until February, which is the deadline. I think 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.000 I think I'll give this one a skip because my 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:20.720 singing voice isn't strong enough. And also, uh, I'm like, 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.440 I'm at best a casual fan of the Greatest Showman. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:30.240 At best, I was about to say, like, they don't 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.480 say anything about having to sing it, well, so that's 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.840 just an excuse. But I do understand the Greatest Showman 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:40.600 I'm not a huge fan of. You know what, I 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.920 would have actually would have enjoyed it a lot more 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.760 if they had not said it was supposed to be P. T. Barnum, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:53.800 because I had real issues with the the lionization of P. T. Barnum, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.440 who was a much more complicated person than the musical 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:01.800 would have you understand. But that's that's But I don't 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.680 want to yuck anyone's yeah either. I know a lot 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.840 of people really love the Greatest Showman, and there's nothing 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.600 wrong with loving it. I mean, that's that's you do 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.600 you for me. There was one song in that show 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.000 that I really loved and another song that I liked, 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.320 but um, but that was that. Everything else neither of 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:25.520 them are from now on fair enough. I mean, it 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.880 is interesting to say they've gotten permission from Disney to 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.240 do that. Yes, yes, this is this is something that's 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.119 got full clearance. To me. It's again another remarkable example 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:39.000 of Disney giving the go ahead for some creative uses 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.480 of their properties, which, as we've pointed out in previous episodes, 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.640 is remarkable considering how protective Disney has been of its 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:51.760 I P in the past. Also weird but delightful was 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.520 the latest trailer for Raya in The Last Dragon. I really, 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.160 you know what, I hadn't seen anything I knew about 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.319 this movie. I knew it was coming out, but hadn't 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:04.679 seen any trailers, hadn't watched anything of it until we 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.360 were making this episode. And uh, and the trailer is. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.520 First of all, the style looks amazing. They made Riya 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:18.920 look like a total um kick butt warrior. I was 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.599 trying to think of a good, family friendly way of 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:25.079 saying it. She looks amazing in it. The antagonist is, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.800 at least from what I can gather from the trailer, 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:32.120 also a woman, and then the dragon is a a 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:37.679 female dragon. So we've got a film where multiple characters, 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.040 important characters to the story are all women, which I 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.840 also thought was awesome. It's not no one draws attention 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.120 to it in the trailer, but I noticed it just 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.719 because it's something that we haven't seen a lot of 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.439 until fairly recently, and I like that that trend is continuing. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.880 I do too. I also really like that, Um. I 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:04.080 like that the character is such a kick but character, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.400 Like you said, um, there it's it almost feels like 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.920 Disney wanted their take on the Avatar the Last Airbender. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.959 To me, yeah, I was getting a lot of that. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.319 I was getting a little bit of Mulan vibes. Um. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.120 There were a couple of other like properties I would 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.200 think of, even a kuba and the two strings. Um, 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.520 there's a little bit of that in there. There. There's 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.760 there's definitely some stuff you can tell where some influences 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.319 came in. Um. The attitude of the dragon feels like 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.560 very much a nod to sort of Wosho and Mulan. Um. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:43.720 I mean, it's Aquafina and it's a it's a good trailer, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.280 and the action looks like it's going to be really 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:51.559 really interesting. I am eager to see this. You know, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:55.000 it's interesting because it doesn't it doesn't look like the 0:10:55.120 --> 0:11:00.120 kind of typical feel good sort of Disney stuff like. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.280 It doesn't seem all warm and fuzzy and squishy. It 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:07.520 seems a little more action oriented. Um, which is great too. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.520 I think that looks really interesting. I think I haven't 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:15.480 been as excited for a Disney computer animated movie as 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.680 this since Record Ralph, which I know that you don't 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.280 feel the same way about that movie as I do. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:22.800 For me, I think i'd have to go with if 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.240 we're not talking picks are, if we're just talking about 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:29.240 Disney proper Big Hero six, Yeah, I can see that 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.319 as well, which has a very similar kind of actionly 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.959 vibe to it. This will be available on Disney Plus 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.120 on their premier for premium on March five, which means 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.800 eventually you'll get it on your regular subscription, but I might. Honestly, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.480 I think I'm going to pay for it too, because 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.160 I really want to see it, and I don't want 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.559 I want that that experience of discovery and not have 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.040 everything kind of laid out for me before I get 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.760 a chance to see it, because the discovery part, you know, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.839 I'm sure we can talk about this in a longer 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.200 section at some future or episode, but the discovery part 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.720 of a new property is one of the great joys 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.319 for me. Like I can handle going in hearing spoilers, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.480 but I really love that that experience of discovering something 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.800 as it's playing out. Um, you just can't really, you 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.959 can't replicate that if you already know what's happening before 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.240 you go and see it. It's different. You can still 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.960 enjoy it. There's nothing wrong with it, but it is different. Mhm. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.880 I agree. I agree. Something on Disney Plus that you 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.160 I don't think you're going to have to pay premium 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.719 for is the Black Panther show that's in develop or 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.720 at least a Wakonda show. It's a show set in Wakonda. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.920 What whether or not it director, whether or not it 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:48.319 involves a Black Panther character, uh played by sure, you 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.559 would imagine, we don't know. It may be that it 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.480 may not even be set in the quote unquote modern 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.320 day of the Marvel Cinematic universe. There's no real telling, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.360 but we know that the director of Panther is going 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.400 to be behind the development of the show, and that 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.400 it is set in Waconda, and bring it on. I 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.480 am eager to see more of that world. Yeah. Yeah, 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.000 it was such such great creation, and we only got 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.240 a small part of it in the first Black Panther movie, 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.199 so and and and a little bit in Infinity War 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.439 a little bit, not near enough, not near enough. You 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.840 can tell that there's a whole bunch of written richness 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.080 in that world that we didn't get to see. Uh. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:35.880 Something I did get to see this week. Uh is this? 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.320 This was something Ariel shared with me that I had 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.719 not seen, And I'm so thankful that I have a 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.280 co host like Ariel to bring this into my life. Yeah. 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.400 Is Uh. Some fans took the Jurassic Park trailer and 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.679 mashed it up with pee wee Herman making all of 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.760 the dinosaurs pee wee Herman. When you hear that concept, 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.719 you say, oh, I know what this is gonna look like. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.400 But no, it's way better than what you imagine in 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:05.400 your brain. For for one thing, they resisted the urge 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:09.400 of making a dinosaur sized peee Herman. It's a Peewee 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:14.959 Herman sized pee Wee Herman, and the the integration of 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.760 peee Herman shots into Jurassic Park scenes is done pretty 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:24.280 darn well. Like there are bits where you're looking at 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.400 a Jurassic Park character and Pewee Herman is popping up 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.360 from behind a tree, and you know, you can tell 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:34.800 there was some compositing done, but it looks really good 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.040 for for a for a joke. Yeah, And there's only 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:44.600 one time where they skipped to like a not Jurassic 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:49.120 Park scene and it's brief, yes, I think, yeah, yeah, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.360 where where it's him over at on the corner of 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.720 a house and he's just doing his little pee Herman laugh. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.280 Everything else is essentially Jurassic Park with some Peee Herman 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:01.640 integrated into it, including the missequence where the t Rex 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.880 is chasing the jeep and it's the must go faster, 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.640 must go faster. And I don't want to say anymore 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.560 than that other than you need to see it to 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.920 really appreciate it. But we'll put that link in our 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.520 show notes on our website when this episode goes live 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.600 so that you can watch it too. We just wanted 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.680 to give it a shout out since we love mashups. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.600 We had to love on this mashup, yes, and that 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.480 wraps up our quick headlines for this week. When we 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.600 come back, we are going to have a deep discussion 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.440 about the DC Cinematic Universe and what we would do 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.960 if we were put in charge of it in order 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.880 to kind of fix it. Seems like it's really presumptuous, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.400 but I'm going to say fix it. And then also 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.320 stick around because at the end of this episode with 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.880 our mashup we are we have chosen a mash up 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.200 topic that is in part a tribute to the late 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:03.400 great Chloris Leachman, a phenomenal comic actor who we lost, 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.680 uh just recently, and so you want to stick around 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.960 for that too, But first we gotta take this quick break. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.360 Still living in and manually taking notes, start the new 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.440 year with auto dot ai to generate automatic notes for meetings, interviews, 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.280 or lectures. With auto dot ai, you can search the 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.560 meeting notes, insert images, playback the audio, and share them 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.360 with your friends or coworkers. 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Thank you for asking me about this. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.880 Uh I know I I I've made it pretty clear. 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.399 Anyone who listened to old episodes of Large Nergron Collector 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:54.280 the classic ones from like tent seventeen, you know that 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.960 even back then I was complaining about the way d 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:01.520 C was going about their cinematic universe, that that that 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.000 dead horse is still continuing to be beaten by yours, truly, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.480 because I don't think it's necessarily gotten much better. I 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.800 have multiple problems with it. Problem one is that the 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:17.919 whole Zack Snyder take on making everything dark and grim 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.520 doesn't sit too well with me, largely because like, I 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.600 think there should be some dark and grim nous in there. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.480 I think there need to be stinks, Like without steaks, 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.399 there's no conflict, and without conflict, there's no drama. But 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:38.160 I feel like heroes need to occasionally be i don't know, heroic, yeah, 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.120 and inspiring and that sort of thing, which is why 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.920 Wonder Woman, the original Wonder Woman film from this this 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.800 latest match is still I think my favorite of all 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:50.879 the ones that have come out so far, with the 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:55.520 possible exception of Shazam, which feels almost tangential, but it 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.639 was also pretty dark. It was pretty dark, but it 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.639 had more lighthearted moment than any of the other DC films. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.000 And then the other part kind of ties into that 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.440 tangential thing, which is that there is no coherent or 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:14.840 cohesive strategy right like there are so many different DC properties, 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.200 and there are disagreements about which ones actually fit into 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:22.320 the mainline DC universe versus being some sort of offshoot 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.879 like Joker. The movie Joker, which a lot of people loved, 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.520 is not part of the mainstream DC cinematic universe. There 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:35.800 was talk of another Jared leto Joker movie, which never, 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.280 as far as I know, is not happening, But that 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.040 also wasn't going to be part of the mainstream DC universe, 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.960 And you start to wonder, well, why are you bothering 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:49.720 crafting these I mean, I understand the appeal of having 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:56.040 heroes from different uh, different franchises, are different lines crossover. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.520 There's always like it's that dream, Oh yeah, it's Batman 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:01.479 and super Man. Like, I get it. That's a big 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.399 deal in the comics, it's a big deal in the movies. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.960 But if you're not going to craft a really strong, 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:12.720 coherent universe, then it almost seems like you should really 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:16.960 just be developing one shot films that are good stories 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:21.080 featuring these characters, but there's no necessary connective tissue to 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:25.800 everything else. I agree. So I mean d C to 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.560 the Dark thing. D C is not a Stranger two 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.520 Dark storylines in the comics. But I do feel like 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:37.359 you need to you need to set up the hero 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.000 in that story as the hero, like you said before, 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:45.800 you can enjoy that journey down down a path that 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:50.399 they maybe shouldn't go. You're more invested then, um and 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.439 then yeah, the continuity is hard. I feel like they 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.399 they tried so hard to catch up with Marvel, but 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.760 by that time, they already had a bunch of TV shows, 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.119 and they already had all of these one off movies. 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:06.159 We've had so many Batman series, um, that it was 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:10.159 almost like an afterthought. I do feel like they up 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.280 until the Snyder cut, I feel like they had been 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.240 slowly edging away from everything being super dark, even through 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:20.000 this latest wonder Woman movie. UM, but I still feel 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:24.400 like trying to add that levity to what little through 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.240 line there is, it just makes the stories extra long 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:32.320 and extra convoluted. Yeah. Yeah, no, there's there's no efficiency 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:36.639 in storytelling in the DC Cinematic universe. Everything is a 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:42.320 little too bloated and uh, I mean when when there 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:47.000 are important block points that hinge on such silly things 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:50.000 like the fact that two characters have mother figures who 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.359 were named Martha and somehow that's what brings them together. 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.240 I mean, I get it, like that's been that's been 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.720 mean to death, right, but it's still ridiculous. It's why 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.200 it's and mean to death. It is a ridiculous point 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.200 in a film. And uh, you know, there's just so 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.680 many decisions that I disagreed with, especially in those early 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:14.560 Snyder films, like without as you say, without making the 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:19.200 hero heroic, you have no one to cheer for, You're 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:21.960 It's like they decided they wanted to skip straight to 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:28.800 the Frank Miller version of Old Batman and show him 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.800 as you know, someone who is who is still plotting along, 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:38.040 but it's very cynical and very um uh pessimistic about 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:42.720 things and um pragmatic in a way that's extremely dark. 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.080 And they didn't want to get to any of the 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.280 stuff that led him to that journey. They just wanted 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.480 to jump to that. Same with them with the fact 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.040 that they didn't go through the same setup that Marvel 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:57.840 did when it began to establish all these individual characters 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.879 and then the connection they had with one another to 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.600 lead into the Avengers titles. And you know, we didn't 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:09.880 even get into the Thanos storyline until we were probably 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.920 about halfway through those initial Marvel films. It was only 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.560 in the back half that the Thanos storyline really started 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.240 to play out, and to the point where some people 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.320 were even asking like, why should we care about Thanos? 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.399 And then in fanity war happened and everyone suddenly really 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.840 cared about Thanos. But it just showed that they did 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.040 a very long lead up to that, whereas d C 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:35.320 was almost like, dump all the toys out on the floor, Okay, 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.639 now they're all together, let's make them do stuff. But 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.520 they didn't build any of that individually. Like I said, 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.000 I feel like it really was them playing a game 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.960