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Speaker 1: is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the large nerd Drunk Collider, the podcast that's all

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Speaker 1: about the geeky things happening in the world around us

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Speaker 1: and how very excited we are about them. I'm Ariel casting,

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Speaker 1: and with me, as always is the super Jonathan Strickland. Ariel,

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you, considering that we are

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Speaker 1: talking about super stuff, flight or invisibility. Classic question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do LARP and invisibility would be hilarious. I would

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Speaker 1: never lose a module. What about you, You'd be peeping

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Speaker 1: know where you're coming from. You. I go with flight

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Speaker 1: idea of being able to travel wherever I want, whenever

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Speaker 1: know what I was thinking. Flying anywhere you want, any

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Speaker 1: gonna go to first stop in Hawaii, retail outlet, mall.

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Speaker 1: Second stop in Hawaii, the beach, maybe maybe the Pokak

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Speaker 1: the latest trailer for Raya in The Last Dragon. I really,

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Speaker 1: First of all, the style looks amazing. They made Riya

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Speaker 1: a complicated issue. Like if it were me, I'd almost

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Speaker 1: say like, all right, we're gonna have to start with

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Speaker 1: a fresh slate. Um, some of the casting I might

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Speaker 1: keep because I think that some of the folks who

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Speaker 1: are in their roles are good for those roles, But like,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna do what the comic books do occasionally,

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Speaker 1: which is that you do a big reset. It happens

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Speaker 1: in comics all the time, where you have some sort

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Speaker 1: of cataclysmic event that destroys every relity so that it

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Speaker 1: could start fresh and then you start screwing it up

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Speaker 1: all over again, but at least you can start fresh. Well,

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Speaker 1: And I thought that's what they were doing with the

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Speaker 1: James Gunn Suicide Squad that's coming out, because it's just

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Speaker 1: it's it's not a second movie, it's just another suicide

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Speaker 1: Squad movie. But then they talked. But and you know,

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Speaker 1: James Gunn did great with Guardians of the Galaxy, and

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Speaker 1: the cast for this new movie is pretty spectacular. Um,

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Speaker 1: they all all of the actors ride a good line

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Speaker 1: between action and intense and comedy. But then they did

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Speaker 1: carry over some of the characters like Harley Quinn and

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Speaker 1: Boomerang and things like that, so it's not quite as

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Speaker 1: much of a reboot as I initially thought it was

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Speaker 1: going to be. Yeah, Um, so if you were trying

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Speaker 1: to fix this, like my my argument is to scrap

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Speaker 1: it all and start over. Um, but do you think

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Speaker 1: it's something that you could see as being salvageable, like

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Speaker 1: keeping everything that exists now and just building further upon it. Yes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And my reasoning for that is I've said since the beginning,

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Speaker 1: and if you're a long time Lency listener you'll know

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Speaker 1: this that I feel like the real problem with the

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Speaker 1: Justice League is how dark it is. I feel like

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Speaker 1: they've been going lighter and lighter and lighter. Uh. Justice League,

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Speaker 1: much like the newer Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies. The

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Speaker 1: storyline was not strong, but they got the characters right. Um.

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Speaker 1: Even at the end Superman got to be Superman and

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Speaker 1: that was nice. But I enjoyed watching all the characters

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Speaker 1: and I enjoyed watching their chemistry. So all we need

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Speaker 1: to do is have happy Superman fly around the world

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Speaker 1: reverse time, and then we can continue on with the

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Speaker 1: Justice League, because that movie did the poorest and to

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Speaker 1: me it was one of the most one of the

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Speaker 1: more enjoyable ones. Um. Maybe not quite a from a

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Speaker 1: character standpoint, maybe not as quite as enjoyable as Wonder

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Speaker 1: Woman or Aquaman, which were both I found both of

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Speaker 1: them fun, but far too long. Um And mainly because

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Speaker 1: the Justice League villain was pretty milk chosty. But um, well,

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Speaker 1: now you're going to get dark side in the Snyder cut.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't. Yeah, that's that's exactly how I

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Speaker 1: feel aial, So don't don't feel badly about it. But

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Speaker 1: Snyder cut, but more movies. I appreciate what you say,

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Speaker 1: like I I, I don't deny that. You know, you

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Speaker 1: could continue. Obviously they're going to continue to build on

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Speaker 1: the foundation they have laid. I think the reason, the

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Speaker 1: want to scrap it all and start over is fundamentally

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Speaker 1: I despise the fact that the Kents we're trying to

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Speaker 1: tell Clark to be selfish and to to value self

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Speaker 1: preservation over helping others, because to me, that is fun

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Speaker 1: dem mentally the opposite of what most versions of Superman's

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Speaker 1: origin story point to, like the whole idea being that

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Speaker 1: this is an alien who decides that he wants to

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Speaker 1: protect humans because he was raised by genuinely decent people.

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Speaker 1: And when you take that away, it just like to me,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, you just ruined everything. You just you've

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Speaker 1: soured the whole thing, and yeah, you can get him

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Speaker 1: to come around and choose to be noble. But that's

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Speaker 1: a different character arc art. It's not it's not invalid.

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Speaker 1: It just to me, isn't Superman. I mean, I get it,

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Speaker 1: I get it. You know. I enjoyed Man of Steel,

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Speaker 1: which is is the movie that started that whole path

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Speaker 1: you don't like of Superman. But while I thought it

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Speaker 1: was an entertaining movie, I did not think it was

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Speaker 1: a great Superman movie. It wasn't it. It wasn't a

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Speaker 1: great Superman movie to start off the d C EU with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at the time, I didn't know there was going to

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Speaker 1: be a d C EU, So yeah, I just to me,

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Speaker 1: it was like it was, it started with a wrong

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Speaker 1: turn and then it got more wronger. Fair enough, but

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Speaker 1: you know what, we also admit like that that's down

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Speaker 1: to our personal tastes. There may be many of you

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Speaker 1: out there who absolutely love the DC Cinematic Universe, which

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Speaker 1: you know that's totally valid too, Like your opinions are

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Speaker 1: you said, I've seen the d C EU movies and

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Speaker 1: I will continue to see them. And you know, Marvel

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Speaker 1: has had to scrap some of their properties, or has

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Speaker 1: tried to scrap some of their properties multiple times to

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Speaker 1: relaunch them, X Men, Fantastic Four, things like that, So

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Speaker 1: it's not just parent property specific. Yeah, no, I mean that. Also,

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Speaker 1: Marvel has has caught some flak for not integrating some

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Speaker 1: of their Netflix TV series into the overall Marvel Cinemaic universe.

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Speaker 1: Like that direction only goes one way, where the stuff

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Speaker 1: that happened in the movies gets referenced in the shows,

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Speaker 1: but the shows never get the carry over into the movies,

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Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because Daredevil and Jessica Jones and Luke

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Speaker 1: Cage are all awesome and Iron Fist is also there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we think that Daredevil is going to be in

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Speaker 1: it works, then they might continue it. Yeah, but you know,

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Speaker 1: this was our our DC conversation. If we want to

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Speaker 1: Monday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Okay, Ariel, you

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Speaker 1: picked the two properties that we're going to mash up,

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Speaker 1: and initially I resisted this, but eventually came around what

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Speaker 1: I thought of a joke so bad that I had

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Speaker 1: to do a mash up. But let's explain what two

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Speaker 1: properties you picked? Okay, So we picked the fantastic four

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Speaker 1: mainly because of some conversations happening around one division that

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Speaker 1: we're not going to get into because spoilers. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: we also picked young Frankenstein. So let's talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about these properties, because at least in my mash up,

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Speaker 1: I have some let's call them deep cuts that I

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Speaker 1: reference that I think are going to be lost on

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Speaker 1: probably nine cinemaur audience. Sure, but the basic story is

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Speaker 1: that there's this gentleman Gene Wilder who is uh Dr

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Speaker 1: Franken Frankenstein. Uh, because he doesn't want to be confused

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Speaker 1: with the crazy Dr Frankenstein Um. Who finds out he's

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Speaker 1: got a like a familial house that he's he's earned

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Speaker 1: eventually accepts his name Frankenstein. But there's uh huge amount

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Speaker 1: of comedy. You've got I Gore, who is a play

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Speaker 1: on igor. You've at Frod Blueckhardt, who's the character that

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Speaker 1: Clos Leachman played, who every time they say her name,

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Speaker 1: no matter where she is, a horse whinnies because it

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Speaker 1: sounds familiar to the German word for glue um, which

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Speaker 1: is never explained in the movie. But it just happens.

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Speaker 1: It's a running gag that they never explain, and I

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Speaker 1: love it. And it's just such a lighthearted, fun play

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Speaker 1: on on a really great but kind of dark story.

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Speaker 1: Frankenstein Um. That is just brilliant. Yeah. Uh, Fantastic Four Okay,

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Speaker 1: So in case you aren't aware of who the Fantastic

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Speaker 1: Four are, it's a heroic group of four characters. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There have been different members of the Fantastic Four over

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Speaker 1: who is the invisible first the Invisible Girl, but she

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Speaker 1: manages to it's grew the patriarchy and become the Invisible woman. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: You have Johnny Storm, Sue's brother, who is the human Torch,

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Speaker 1: big rocky orange hulk like guy, and they end up

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Speaker 1: but they also have a enemy in Dr Doom. Dr

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Speaker 1: of mad science, Read leaves his then fiance Alicia masters

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Speaker 1: to see what the ordeal is about. Upon reaching the

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Speaker 1: estate in Latviia, Reshorts meets a beautiful blonde named Susan

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Speaker 1: He thinks he's being clever picking on Reshorts his pronunciation

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Speaker 1: These two are the Storm siblings, who are the assistance

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Speaker 1: that evening. As Reshorts explores these date, he happens upon

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Speaker 1: Susan is gone, but Reshorts can hear her yelling, and

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Speaker 1: John I accidentally ignites, scaring the grim monster thing away.

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Speaker 1: affected by the radiation, having assisted her loved, beloved Nathaniel

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Speaker 1: find this thing. Thankfully, Aba Normal was actually the love

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Speaker 1: just how to find him with his childhood love of pizza.

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Speaker 1: There's only one pizza joint in life area, and tonight

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Speaker 1: is open mic night. When they get there, they find

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Speaker 1: They know they must protect him, being so unique and clever,

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Speaker 1: the the the original Fantastic Four film by that Roger

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Speaker 1: We open in the Baxter Building as the Fantastic Four's headquarters.

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Speaker 1: He's an expert in linguistics in history, and it's clearly

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Speaker 1: a moment of temper, Franklin uses his reality bending superpowers

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Speaker 1: Class dismissed, he says after his lecture, an old man

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Speaker 1: overcome with anxiety, makes arrangements to travel to lat Varia

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Speaker 1: Herby and Franklin traveled to an old abandoned castle used

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Speaker 1: named Inga Summers, who was given instructions to help assist

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Speaker 1: castle was practically unoccupied, but no, there is one person there,

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Speaker 1: Fraud Bluecher, who is secretly Cynthia von Doom, dr Doom's

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Speaker 1: Franklin spends time exploring, attempting to find any signs of

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Speaker 1: what happened to the Fantastic Four. Bluecher tries to embrace

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Speaker 1: him to encourage him to embrace his superpowers, but Franklin resists,

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Speaker 1: unwilling to acknowledge that this is in fact his birthright.

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Speaker 1: What follows is an adventure in which Franklin tries to

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Speaker 1: He builds a robotic human Torch, which just goes around

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Speaker 1: insisting that no, he's the real original human Torch and

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Speaker 1: Torch was a robot, but Franklin points out that if

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Speaker 1: the robot Human torches rampaging through the countryside. Franklin and

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Speaker 1: of a special october Fest celebration, knowing that the robot

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Speaker 1: is particularly fond of Oom Pah bands, and so Franklin

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Speaker 1: inga Summers and Herby play Polka, luring the human Torch

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Speaker 1: is a special German beer mug. Emblazoned on it are

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Speaker 1: the Fantastic Four and on the bottom of the mug

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Speaker 1: it's a message to Franklin with love from Mom and Dad.

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Speaker 1: And then it happens. We finally smash cut to the

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Speaker 1: title of the movie Young Franklin Stein cut to end

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Speaker 1: Doom show up or something. I don't know. I you

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Speaker 1: Young Franklin Stein, Yeah, yeah, we got it because it's

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Speaker 1: a German beer mug. You see, his name is Franklin Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So if any of you think you've got a better

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