WEBVTT - NBA Finals Betting Preview + Game 1 Best Bets (Ep. 709) 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.159 What's up, guys? How are you welcome into the Betting 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:07.960 Pros NBA Finals Preview Terrell Furman, Matt Perrault. We will 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.959 break down the Oklahoma City Thunder and the upstart Indiana 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:16.320 Pacers into the NBA Finals. We go, Terrell, We got 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.560 a really interesting matchup, but it's not so if you 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.120 take it by the book makers. Ok see, heavy favorites here, 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.639 heavy favorites in game one. Will break it all down, 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.040 coming up here today on the program. How are you 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.320 on this? Well, we're taping this on a Tuesday before 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.120 Game one, which will be on Thursday. 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.080 Yeah, I'm good, I'm great. I'm looking forward to this. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.640 Like again, this is the vindication that I wanted, Matt. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.080 I've been betting OKAC consistently, game by game for like 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.240 three years, and I'm telling you only. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.240 The past two years they've been good. Like it's been. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.479 If you've been rocket with OKC, if you're actually a. 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.240 OKC fan, you're like, oh man, there were dark days 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.840 a couple of years ago, and look at us in 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.040 the NBA Finals. I feel very, very vindicated because this 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.160 was a group that I have been married to for 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.240 years and now I get to watch them in the finals. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.280 So let's start with Indiana and then we'll get into 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.440 the Thunder obviously, because the Thunder have home court. If 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.040 you're Rick Carlisle, this has to be the perfect scenario 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.320 for your young basketball team because literally nobody is picking 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.640 you to win this. You are gigantic thunderdogs here to 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.480 the Thunder, you don't have home court advantage, and you 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.560 have one player essentially on your roster in Pascal Siakam 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.680 who has any assemblance of an NBA Finals experience run 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.280 obviously with Toronto winning the championship back when Kawhi won 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.560 it with them. So you have a team that's unproven 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.560 but completely is being I don't want to say overlooked, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.040 but in a lot of ways they are being overlooked. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.360 Do the Pacers have any shot in this series? In 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:49.760 your mind? 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.240 Yeah, I think they got a shot just because of 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.200 the fact that they're playing in the game. Now do 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.680 I realistically think they're gonna win now? Unfortunately, it's just 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.240 because I think, okay, see, it is too good and 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.560 it's nothing again the Pacers. I think the Pacers are 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.600 a good basketball team. And this is coming from a 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.800 guy that's roasted them over the course of the season. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.200 They were very, very unserious throughout multiple portions of the season. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.120 But okay see, it feels like, okay see, one has 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.440 a defense that people really really hate when you compare 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.440 them to the great defenses of the NBA. But like 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.280 when you watch them, they're really one of the great 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.080 defenses of the NBA. So I don't know what to 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.000 tell you, Like, at some point the newer teams are 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.840 gonna be as good as those teams that you missed 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.519 in the past, and it just looks like this OKAC 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.359 defense is that good, and they've been really really good 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.840 throughout the playoffs. I think that SGA is a dog. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.760 He's won the MVP, he's looking to go for the trifecta, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:45.680 and he very well can do it. I mean, yeah, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.639 the Pacers have a shot because they're gonna be playing 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.280 in the game and I picking them. No, But if 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.639 you want to go, take a plus five hundred flyer 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.840 because it's just way overpriced, because I think OKAC should 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.200 probably be like minus three fifty minus four hundred, minus 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:02.680 seven hundred is insane. But I won't waste any money. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.680 I don't think the Pacers are gonna win, but I 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:05.800 think that'll still be fun. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.560 It's one of the biggest numbers we've seen from a 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.240 series price in NBA Finals history. Fandel has it at 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.720 seven point fifty. It's plus five point thirty on the return, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:16.880 and I think you're going to see a lot of 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.840 people just take the fly er bet with the Pacers 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.359 and say, hey, it's five to one. I've bet worse 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.280 things in my life. Indiana won the Eastern Conference, why 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.520 can't they go and beat Oklahoma City. Well, I'm with you. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.080 I don't believe they can beat Oklahoma City. I actually 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:34.079 think this is a massive mismatch between two rosters. And 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.440 last year the Boston Celtics were accused of the path 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.000 it was too easy. They got there without any real pushback. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.960 I'm hearing the same thing with the Thunder that it 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.080 was too easy. They didn't get pushed by anybody. The 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.280 Timberwolves laid down. They've been resting, so it's gonna be 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.320 a rusty team coming up in Game one. I actually 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.080 totally disagree. This is the first time Okase makes the Finals. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.280 This is a young and hungry basketball team, like you mentioned, 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.480 anxious to prove to everybody that the regular season wasn't 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.640 a Fluke, and this wasn't some easy path. They had 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.880 to go seven games against the Denver Nuggets and to 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.000 throw in one of the best players in NBA history 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.640 in Na Kola Jokic. I'm with you, I don't know 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.799 how many games the Pacers wind up winning in this series. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.599 How many games in your mind do you think the 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.120 Pacers wind up winning in this series. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:27.160 One? 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.080 I'm with you. I agree, and I'm not trying to 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.040 be disrespectful. 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.400 No, no, no, So look, I think it's gonna be competitive. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.600 I think it's going to be super competitive. But at 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.560 the end of the day, I don't think that the 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:45.760 Pacers have the defense or are going to be able 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.839 to keep up with all the options OKC has, because 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.520 you got to think where they just came out of 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.960 the Eastern Conference Finals. They played My New York Knicks, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.840 where at the very at the most they might have 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.000 saw seven guys per game, like legitly saw seven guys, 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.880 sprinkle of other here or there, but like they might 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.200 have legitly saw maybe six seven guys per game. This 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.000 OKAC team can play ten deep and everybody can do everything. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.600 Everybody can defend, so you're not gonna be able to 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.360 head hunt Bridge. I mean, brunt Son, You're not gonna 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.400 be able to head hunt Cat because everybody can defend, 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.920 everybody can switch, everybody is good in transition, everybody can score. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.320 It is somebody different every single night. It might be 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:29.000 Caruso that night. It might be Isaiah Joe who has 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.400 been quiet in the playoffs but has had big games 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.080 against the Pacers. It might be Cason Wallace, it might 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.560 be a lot of other people that are that second, third, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.160 fourth scorer for them, And I just think that's gonna 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.280 be the thing that's gonna be the thing that's gonna 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.279 hold them up is when the ball starts moving too 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.320 much and they always find somebody open, and you're like, oh, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.560 it's always something, It's always something, It's always something. So yeah, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.640 I think the Pacers are a good team, and by that, 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.000 I think they'll get maybe one game at home. But 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.919 like other than that, I do think this is a 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.600 short series, competitive but short. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.040 So at FanDuel, you can look a look at the 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.280 numbers for this to go. Four games is plus two 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:11.160 to eighty an exact prediction. Five games is plus two 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.719 hundred plus one ninety eight, six games is three to one, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.760 and seven games is plus three sixty. If you want 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.560 to bet the four to one, it's plus two ten 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.320 and the series price from a total games perspective is 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.360 five and a half. Under is juiced at minus one 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.039 forty eight. To give you an idea as to what 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.000 the books think will happen here in this series, They're 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.919 may be giving the Pacers one game. Doesn't it feel 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.159 like Game three goes to Indiana? That game one and 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:45.440 two in oksee game three, Indiana will win Game four 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.960 and five it's won by Oklahoma City. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.080 Yeah, I mean, if you look at the odds, that's 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.120 actually six to one. If you take that exactly just 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:55.960 like how you said, it is six to one, and 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.120 I saw I think it happens. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.120 I mean, if you if you look at OKAC, as 0:06:59.160 --> 0:06:59.839 good as they've. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.640 Been in the playoffs, they haven't covered the spread at 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.080 all on the road yet. And so that is just 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.920 one situation where I'm like, Okay, they clearly they if 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.080 they go up two games to none, and I think 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.480 that's where Indiana has to go and make a mark 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.120 in this series. They have to try to win one 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:17.800 on the road, and that's unfortunately, I just don't think 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.640 they're gonna be able to do that, but they have 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:20.960 to try to win one on the road, because if 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:22.800 they go up two games to nine, they get very 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.800 comfortable it's all right, we're on the road. I mean, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.720 we can drop one. Really don't need it. But then 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.040 game game three comes around and get to the second 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.560 half and they're like all right. They sit up in 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.800 their game and chair, they got the head set on, 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.920 and they're like, all right, we're taking this serious now, 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:37.440 and we're not gonna play with you because we know 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.200 when we go to game five or ending this on 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.160 our home floor, and it might be a little bit 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.520 of a of a psychological thing that they don't even 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.600 realize that, like, hey, we want to end this on 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.239 our floor. We want to end this on our floor. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.280 We want to end this on our floor. Like I 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.520 just really think that they're gonna steal game. They're gonna 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.880 steal game three. Pacers are that is, and then game 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.440 four is gonna go to OKC and I just don't 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.480 think they're gonna be able to win anything in Oka 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.520 see here. It's really really tough. You got to be 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.520 able to win a defensive game to win one in 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.640 Okay see, or you got to have some magic happening 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:06.800 like Denver did in game one. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.280 So we both agree under five games here for this series. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.400 Most likely it's going to be a four to one final. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.160 I can see a sweep. And somebody proposed, and I 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.040 have not seen a book put this up. But I'll 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.640 ask you, and I think you're going to say no 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.520 to this. But four and oh straight up? And four 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.520 and oh? Ats that the thunder cover all four games 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.520 and win all four games? Any shot? 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:35.240 No, No, I'm not gonna do it. First of all, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.520 the number is going to be big. It's our what's 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:37.959 game one? 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:38.280 Nine? 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:39.000 Nine and a half? 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.679 So they so if they cover game one, they have 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.800 to move it up. So now we're going up to ten, eleven, 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.520 twelve maybe like in the finals. And then you go 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:52.520 on the road, and if they win and cover the 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.800 first two games, now what are you looking at? You're 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.600 probably looking at what seven on the road. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.959 No, but they're gonna be favored. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.600 See the thing this maybe so maybe teams so maybe 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.840 people come by back on the pacers. So what yeah, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:05.640 what is it going to be? 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:06.240 Two and a half? 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:06.560 Three? 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.160 Yeah, somewhere in that range and a half you could 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.600 won possession nine. Yeah, road court is. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.040 The home court is seven points. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.400 Yeah, I mean in terms of what this what we've 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.640 seen with the Thunder this year in terms of their numbers, 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.960 I mean, they've been the best home team at blowing 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.160 teams out at home in the NBA this year. I 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.880 mean they've won over sixty games by double digits this year. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.480 So like laying a nine and a half point number 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.679 for the Thunder is not a big deal. Pros are 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.319 laying that consistently just given what the Thunder are doing. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.000 It scares the public to lay nine or nine and 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.840 a Half's not scaring the pros to lay that much 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.480 with the Thunder. So if they win Game one, in 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.360 Game two, they're gonna be favored, But how many point 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.880 you can't make them six point favorites on the road. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:50.360 I mean, that's a gift. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.680 In Game Minnesota, Minnesota was down two games to none 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.800 and it was three that first game. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:58.120 Yeah, that's what it will be be two and a 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.600 half or three in game three, the same same price. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.760 I mean, Game one and two were easily won by 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.080 the Thunder. Right and get in the Western COVERCE finals, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.719 so then both they cover both one in they cover 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.520 both games and then went to Game three and then 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.040 the number was short. So I just think that's how 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.400 this series is gonna play out. And then if they 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.439 cover game three, then you might see the six or 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.480 the seven in game four, you might see that number 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.840 go for a road favorite in the NBA Finals. But 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.280 it's hard to cover these numbers on the road simply 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.240 because of the distance between the games, Like there's so 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.640 much time. This is a television show, like this is 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.800 not planned out the same way. They milk this so 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.840 much to get as much airtime as possible. So I'll 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.400 be really curious, I you know, we can get into 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.000 game one here and move it into what happens in 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.480 game one, because I really think that the rust versus 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.360 Rest conversation is ridiculous for the Thunder, because I like 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.600 your point about how deep they are. I don't think 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.160 they were tired, and I think there there could be 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.560 a little bit of a slower start. But I think 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.360 in the first quarter, I like the thunder at home 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.040 because of the energy in the building. It's gonna be 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.520 electric in there. And maybe in the second quarter things 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.880 kind of you know, maybe there's some legs issues or 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.520 something to go on from a rotation standpoint. With the Thunder, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.720 but it's minus three in the first quarter. So rather 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.199 than laying the nine and a half, which I do 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.160 think at some point there's going to be a better 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.640 number than that in game that we can take on 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.800 the Thunder six five and a half summer of that 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.079 range and lay that versus laying nine and a half. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.040 I like the first quarter minus three for the Thunder 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.319 to ride the energy of the home crowd because these 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.920 states in which the only there's only one professional sports team, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.959 and the Thunder have the entire state of Oklahoma and 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.600 even northern Texas so locked in to what they're doing. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.880 It's a different environment. It's all this is what they've 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.520 been dreaming about of having the NBA Finals and building. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.920 Might be some loyalist over there as seattleists Pulliford and sou. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.080 Yeah, I agree. So I think that building is going 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.040 to be for the Pacers to walk in there in 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.120 Game one, first time NBA Finals for so many of 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.600 these players. We've seen Halliburton get overwhelmed by the moment 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.320 against the Knicks at MSG at times. I just think 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.360 this is going to be a first quarter. I expect 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.560 a pretty decent lead in Game one here after the 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.920 first quarter. So I'm attacking that just in that market 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.400 with the minus three in the first quarter, But how 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:25.600 are you going to attack game one? 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.960 So you look at the numbers and OKAC has been 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.400 really really dominant in one aspect here at home, and 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.199 it's the opponent's team total. They are one and eight 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.640 opponents are when playing OKAC at home in the playoffs. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:42.920 To their team total. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.360 Great stat, one in eight. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.200 I mean, and guess what the one one one? The 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:52.920 one win was the debacle in Game one against Denver 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:53.839 where Denver. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.720 Came all the way back. Yeah, only time a team 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:57.959 got over their team total that. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.560 Was the overtime overtime game. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:01.480 I don't think it was over time. I think it 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.480 ended in regulation, pulling for overtime. I think the overtime 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.880 game was another one. But yes, that debacle, that's that's 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.640 what it takes for you to get over the team 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.240 totally gets okay. See at home in the playoffs, Oh yeah, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.679 I bet against the Pacers and not making that happen 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.800 again like it and yes, fast paced game. I really 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.480 do think it that that matters for like for an 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:23.839 over and I think a lot of I've seen a 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.440 lot of people taken over because of the fast pace, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.319 and maybe it over still gets there because okay See 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:27.839 just has this. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.280 Great scoring day. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.600 Yeah, but like I think that OKAYC is good enough 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.680 in transition on defense that it doesn't matter the pace 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.080 of the game. And then OKAYC can also change this 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.320 into a game that they feel more comfortable in because 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.400 while okay See plays fast, they can slow the game 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.000 down and they can play out of the half court 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.480 pretty well as well. And let SGA get iceo ball 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.400 a couple of times and start to go off there, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.320 and I don't think that they'll have anything for that. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:50.960 They couldn't stop Brunt and I don't think they're gonna 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.560 be able to stop it SGA. So this is a 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.120 really really good spot where faid the team total for 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:57.960 the Pacers. I think they're gonna struggle with this Oka 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.920 See different defense is gonna be completely different than what 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.079 they saw from the Knicks because they were getting wide 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.280 open shots from the Knicks in the entire series. They're 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.840 not gonna get this in Game one on the road 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.080 here and like you said, that atmosphere is gonna be crazy. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.320 Love the Pacers team sot under I got it at 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:12.280 one cent and a half. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:13.200 And I like it. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.240 Yeah, two thirty one is the total, and the problem 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.520 with that, like you mentioned, is it can be one 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.560 twenty to one hundred and it goes under. Like how 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.320 many points do we expect the Pacers to score? I 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.200 think you're right on this. I think one oh five 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.040 somewhere in that range or under for the Pacers, just 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.160 given the defensive intensity that we're gonna see from all 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:37.160 eight nine ten guys coming at you, whether it be Sga, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.480 whether it be Dort, They're gonna get up in your grill. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.440 And this fast paced Pacers team. Look what they did 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.680 to the Timberwolves. Now, I know the Pacers play faster 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.400 than Minnesota does, but they wouldn't allow Anthony Edwards to 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.280 get going downhill. They just did a great job of 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:57.120 handing him off and stopping his dribble drive in penetration 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.160 to the rim. Halliburton does a very similar thing, Like 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.280 that's what gets him going when he can go up 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.880 Temple in the open court and use his size to 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.720 get to the rim. I think they're gonna shut him 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.640 down and make somebody else beat them. And I'm not 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.040 sure who that's going to be. I know Pascal Siaka 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.240 won the Eastern Conference m v P uh Finals MVP. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.880 I'm not sure that was warranted. I think even Helliburton 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.240 thought he was gonna win the m v P and 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.440 it went clearly he took. He took like two steps forward, man. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.920 Man. He made it from the back of the pile up, 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.440 so I've I've been I've done this before. So that's 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.720 how I know. He made it from the back of 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.680 the pile and conveniently was up at the front like yeah, 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.800 if they call me, I'm right here, Like. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.960 No, it was Saco, so he would so like that's 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.480 my I mean, obviously he can go off and be 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.440 a big weapon here, but I just I look at 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.800 you know, Miles Turner has to be such a big 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.920 weapon here for his length, giving up against Chet and 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.560 giving up against Hartenstein. I just I think there's just 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.960 so many players that the Thunder. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.680 Have can't shoot anymore then more. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.000 I I said this before. I said this on my 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.480 other show and pacer Fan got really mad at me. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.240 But I'll say it again. I think at all five positions, 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.320 the Thunder are better at all five starting positions. I'll 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.720 take the Thunder player in all five and. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.640 Okay, so let's look at this we got point guard 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.400 what SGA you call it a point sure, yeah, yeah, 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:27.880 SGA Haliberger okay, check nem Hard and oh well I 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.840 mean you could put him up Jada or do right, yeah, 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:32.120 any combination of. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.600 Ye, okay, all right, man, alright, man uh. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.200 Hartenstein Hart and sign against Turner. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:41.920 Okay. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:43.560 So if you told me that, if you told me 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:48.480 it was Hart and Stein and Pascal, I'd be like, Okay, okay, maybe. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.000 But I think it's it. I mean, it's kind of 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.200 like it depends. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.000 You know, his position is bad, what depends how you 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.480 put it. I could I could understand if he was 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.640 a little upset if he thought Pascal was better than Hartstein. 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.360 But regardless, there is a very good point to be 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.320 made that that they aren't better at one position in 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:07.480 the starting lineup. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.000 In the bench. Whose bench would you rather have? I mean, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.520 I'd rather have the Thunders bench. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:13.000 Yes. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.200 So I mean you can make a case that maybe 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.239 Rick Carlisle is the better coach. Okay, maybe make that 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:19.840 case if you want to, But I think there's an 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.200 argument that would be and. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.240 So for me, that would just be the fact of 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:24.960 he's old and he's been around the league and he's 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.120 done it before, and yes, and he has a ring 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:28.840 like that's why you're giving it to him. But like 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.400 daznelds outplayed him over throughout the entire year. 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.879 So they've played two times this year, both wild blowout 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.960 wins by the Thunder and the Thunder obviously the one 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.639 seed they have home court. They've been sitting and resting 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.239 because they ripped through the Western Conference. I just I 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:48.800 don't see a path here other than the Thunder giving 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.439 up wide open threes and the Pacers shooting lights out 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:56.159 for four games to win this series. That's why the 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.640 price is where the price is. And I know it's disrespectful, 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.400 and I know people in the public are gonna run 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.360 to the window to take the five to one. This 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.600 feels like a heavyweight boxing fight where there's a big 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.479 favorite and everybody wants the dog to win, and then 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.760 the dog is on the canvas looking at the ceiling 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.359