Speaker 1: What's up, guys? How are you welcome into the Betting
Speaker 1: Pros NBA Finals Preview Terrell Furman, Matt Perrault. We will
Speaker 1: break down the Oklahoma City Thunder and the upstart Indiana
Speaker 1: Pacers into the NBA Finals. We go, Terrell, We got
Speaker 1: a really interesting matchup, but it's not so if you
Speaker 1: take it by the book makers. Ok see, heavy favorites here,
Speaker 1: heavy favorites in game one. Will break it all down,
Speaker 1: coming up here today on the program. How are you
Speaker 1: on this? Well, we're taping this on a Tuesday before
Speaker 1: Game one, which will be on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good, I'm great. I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 2: Like again, this is the vindication that I wanted, Matt.
Speaker 2: I've been betting OKAC consistently, game by game for like
Speaker 2: three years, and I'm telling you only.
Speaker 3: The past two years they've been good. Like it's been.
Speaker 3: If you've been rocket with OKC, if you're actually a.
Speaker 2: OKC fan, you're like, oh man, there were dark days
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, and look at us in
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. I feel very, very vindicated because this
Speaker 2: was a group that I have been married to for
Speaker 2: years and now I get to watch them in the finals.
Speaker 1: So let's start with Indiana and then we'll get into
Speaker 1: the Thunder obviously, because the Thunder have home court. If
Speaker 1: you're Rick Carlisle, this has to be the perfect scenario
Speaker 1: for your young basketball team because literally nobody is picking
Speaker 1: you to win this. You are gigantic thunderdogs here to
Speaker 1: the Thunder, you don't have home court advantage, and you
Speaker 1: have one player essentially on your roster in Pascal Siakam
Speaker 1: who has any assemblance of an NBA Finals experience run
Speaker 1: obviously with Toronto winning the championship back when Kawhi won
Speaker 1: it with them. So you have a team that's unproven
Speaker 1: but completely is being I don't want to say overlooked,
Speaker 1: but in a lot of ways they are being overlooked.
Speaker 1: Do the Pacers have any shot in this series? In
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they got a shot just because of
Speaker 2: the fact that they're playing in the game. Now do
Speaker 2: I realistically think they're gonna win now? Unfortunately, it's just
Speaker 2: because I think, okay, see, it is too good and
Speaker 2: it's nothing again the Pacers. I think the Pacers are
Speaker 2: a good basketball team. And this is coming from a
Speaker 2: guy that's roasted them over the course of the season.
Speaker 2: They were very, very unserious throughout multiple portions of the season.
Speaker 2: But okay see, it feels like, okay see, one has
Speaker 2: a defense that people really really hate when you compare
Speaker 2: them to the great defenses of the NBA. But like
Speaker 2: when you watch them, they're really one of the great
Speaker 2: defenses of the NBA. So I don't know what to
Speaker 2: tell you, Like, at some point the newer teams are
Speaker 2: gonna be as good as those teams that you missed
Speaker 2: in the past, and it just looks like this OKAC
Speaker 2: defense is that good, and they've been really really good
Speaker 2: throughout the playoffs. I think that SGA is a dog.
Speaker 2: He's won the MVP, he's looking to go for the trifecta,
Speaker 2: and he very well can do it. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Pacers have a shot because they're gonna be playing
Speaker 2: in the game and I picking them. No, But if
Speaker 2: you want to go, take a plus five hundred flyer
Speaker 2: because it's just way overpriced, because I think OKAC should
Speaker 2: probably be like minus three fifty minus four hundred, minus
Speaker 2: seven hundred is insane. But I won't waste any money.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Pacers are gonna win, but I
Speaker 2: think that'll still be fun.
Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest numbers we've seen from a
Speaker 1: series price in NBA Finals history. Fandel has it at
Speaker 1: seven point fifty. It's plus five point thirty on the return,
Speaker 1: and I think you're going to see a lot of
Speaker 1: people just take the fly er bet with the Pacers
Speaker 1: and say, hey, it's five to one. I've bet worse
Speaker 1: things in my life. Indiana won the Eastern Conference, why
Speaker 1: can't they go and beat Oklahoma City. Well, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't believe they can beat Oklahoma City. I actually
Speaker 1: think this is a massive mismatch between two rosters. And
Speaker 1: last year the Boston Celtics were accused of the path
Speaker 1: it was too easy. They got there without any real pushback.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the same thing with the Thunder that it
Speaker 1: was too easy. They didn't get pushed by anybody. The
Speaker 1: Timberwolves laid down. They've been resting, so it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a rusty team coming up in Game one. I actually
Speaker 1: totally disagree. This is the first time Okase makes the Finals.
Speaker 1: This is a young and hungry basketball team, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: anxious to prove to everybody that the regular season wasn't
Speaker 1: a Fluke, and this wasn't some easy path. They had
Speaker 1: to go seven games against the Denver Nuggets and to
Speaker 1: throw in one of the best players in NBA history
Speaker 1: in Na Kola Jokic. I'm with you, I don't know
Speaker 1: how many games the Pacers wind up winning in this series.
Speaker 1: How many games in your mind do you think the
Speaker 1: Pacers wind up winning in this series.
Speaker 3: One?
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I agree, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be disrespectful.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, So look, I think it's gonna be competitive.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be super competitive. But at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I don't think that the
Speaker 2: Pacers have the defense or are going to be able
Speaker 2: to keep up with all the options OKC has, because
Speaker 2: you got to think where they just came out of
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals. They played My New York Knicks,
Speaker 2: where at the very at the most they might have
Speaker 2: saw seven guys per game, like legitly saw seven guys,
Speaker 2: sprinkle of other here or there, but like they might
Speaker 2: have legitly saw maybe six seven guys per game. This
Speaker 2: OKAC team can play ten deep and everybody can do everything.
Speaker 2: Everybody can defend, so you're not gonna be able to
Speaker 2: head hunt Bridge. I mean, brunt Son, You're not gonna
Speaker 2: be able to head hunt Cat because everybody can defend,
Speaker 2: everybody can switch, everybody is good in transition, everybody can score.
Speaker 2: It is somebody different every single night. It might be
Speaker 2: Caruso that night. It might be Isaiah Joe who has
Speaker 2: been quiet in the playoffs but has had big games
Speaker 2: against the Pacers. It might be Cason Wallace, it might
Speaker 2: be a lot of other people that are that second, third,
Speaker 2: fourth scorer for them, And I just think that's gonna
Speaker 2: be the thing that's gonna be the thing that's gonna
Speaker 2: hold them up is when the ball starts moving too
Speaker 2: much and they always find somebody open, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's always something, It's always something, It's always something. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think the Pacers are a good team, and by that,
Speaker 2: I think they'll get maybe one game at home. But
Speaker 2: like other than that, I do think this is a
Speaker 2: short series, competitive but short.
Speaker 1: So at FanDuel, you can look a look at the
Speaker 1: numbers for this to go. Four games is plus two
Speaker 1: to eighty an exact prediction. Five games is plus two
Speaker 1: hundred plus one ninety eight, six games is three to one,
Speaker 1: and seven games is plus three sixty. If you want
Speaker 1: to bet the four to one, it's plus two ten
Speaker 1: and the series price from a total games perspective is
Speaker 1: five and a half. Under is juiced at minus one
Speaker 1: forty eight. To give you an idea as to what
Speaker 1: the books think will happen here in this series, They're
Speaker 1: may be giving the Pacers one game. Doesn't it feel
Speaker 1: like Game three goes to Indiana? That game one and
Speaker 1: two in oksee game three, Indiana will win Game four
Speaker 1: and five it's won by Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you look at the odds, that's
Speaker 2: actually six to one. If you take that exactly just
Speaker 2: like how you said, it is six to one, and
Speaker 2: I saw I think it happens.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you if you look at OKAC, as
Speaker 3: good as they've.
Speaker 2: Been in the playoffs, they haven't covered the spread at
Speaker 2: all on the road yet. And so that is just
Speaker 2: one situation where I'm like, Okay, they clearly they if
Speaker 2: they go up two games to none, and I think
Speaker 2: that's where Indiana has to go and make a mark
Speaker 2: in this series. They have to try to win one
Speaker 2: on the road, and that's unfortunately, I just don't think
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to do that, but they have
Speaker 2: to try to win one on the road, because if
Speaker 2: they go up two games to nine, they get very
Speaker 2: comfortable it's all right, we're on the road. I mean,
Speaker 2: we can drop one. Really don't need it. But then
Speaker 2: game game three comes around and get to the second
Speaker 2: half and they're like all right. They sit up in
Speaker 2: their game and chair, they got the head set on,
Speaker 2: and they're like, all right, we're taking this serious now,
Speaker 2: and we're not gonna play with you because we know
Speaker 2: when we go to game five or ending this on
Speaker 2: our home floor, and it might be a little bit
Speaker 2: of a of a psychological thing that they don't even
Speaker 2: realize that, like, hey, we want to end this on
Speaker 2: our floor. We want to end this on our floor.
Speaker 2: We want to end this on our floor. Like I
Speaker 2: just really think that they're gonna steal game. They're gonna
Speaker 2: steal game three. Pacers are that is, and then game
Speaker 2: four is gonna go to OKC and I just don't
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be able to win anything in Oka
Speaker 2: see here. It's really really tough. You got to be
Speaker 2: able to win a defensive game to win one in
Speaker 2: Okay see, or you got to have some magic happening
Speaker 2: like Denver did in game one.
Speaker 1: So we both agree under five games here for this series.
Speaker 1: Most likely it's going to be a four to one final.
Speaker 1: I can see a sweep. And somebody proposed, and I
Speaker 1: have not seen a book put this up. But I'll
Speaker 1: ask you, and I think you're going to say no
Speaker 1: to this. But four and oh straight up? And four
Speaker 1: and oh? Ats that the thunder cover all four games
Speaker 1: and win all four games? Any shot?
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not gonna do it. First of all,
Speaker 2: the number is going to be big. It's our what's
Speaker 2: game one?
Speaker 3: Nine?
Speaker 1: Nine and a half?
Speaker 2: So they so if they cover game one, they have
Speaker 2: to move it up. So now we're going up to ten, eleven,
Speaker 2: twelve maybe like in the finals. And then you go
Speaker 2: on the road, and if they win and cover the
Speaker 2: first two games, now what are you looking at? You're
Speaker 2: probably looking at what seven on the road.
Speaker 1: No, but they're gonna be favored.
Speaker 2: See the thing this maybe so maybe teams so maybe
Speaker 2: people come by back on the pacers. So what yeah,
Speaker 2: what is it going to be?
Speaker 1: Two and a half?
Speaker 4: Three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhere in that range and a half you could
Speaker 1: won possession nine. Yeah, road court is.
Speaker 3: The home court is seven points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in terms of what this what we've
Speaker 1: seen with the Thunder this year in terms of their numbers,
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been the best home team at blowing
Speaker 1: teams out at home in the NBA this year. I
Speaker 1: mean they've won over sixty games by double digits this year.
Speaker 1: So like laying a nine and a half point number
Speaker 1: for the Thunder is not a big deal. Pros are
Speaker 1: laying that consistently just given what the Thunder are doing.
Speaker 1: It scares the public to lay nine or nine and
Speaker 1: a Half's not scaring the pros to lay that much
Speaker 1: with the Thunder. So if they win Game one, in
Speaker 1: Game two, they're gonna be favored, But how many point
Speaker 1: you can't make them six point favorites on the road.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a gift.
Speaker 2: In Game Minnesota, Minnesota was down two games to none
Speaker 2: and it was three that first game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it will be be two and a
Speaker 1: half or three in game three, the same same price.
Speaker 1: I mean, Game one and two were easily won by
Speaker 1: the Thunder. Right and get in the Western COVERCE finals,
Speaker 1: so then both they cover both one in they cover
Speaker 1: both games and then went to Game three and then
Speaker 1: the number was short. So I just think that's how
Speaker 1: this series is gonna play out. And then if they
Speaker 1: cover game three, then you might see the six or
Speaker 1: the seven in game four, you might see that number
Speaker 1: go for a road favorite in the NBA Finals. But
Speaker 1: it's hard to cover these numbers on the road simply
Speaker 1: because of the distance between the games, Like there's so
Speaker 1: much time. This is a television show, like this is
Speaker 1: not planned out the same way. They milk this so
Speaker 1: much to get as much airtime as possible. So I'll
Speaker 1: be really curious, I you know, we can get into
Speaker 1: game one here and move it into what happens in
Speaker 1: game one, because I really think that the rust versus
Speaker 1: Rest conversation is ridiculous for the Thunder, because I like
Speaker 1: your point about how deep they are. I don't think
Speaker 1: they were tired, and I think there there could be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a slower start. But I think
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, I like the thunder at home
Speaker 1: because of the energy in the building. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: electric in there. And maybe in the second quarter things
Speaker 1: kind of you know, maybe there's some legs issues or
Speaker 1: something to go on from a rotation standpoint. With the Thunder,
Speaker 1: but it's minus three in the first quarter. So rather
Speaker 1: than laying the nine and a half, which I do
Speaker 1: think at some point there's going to be a better
Speaker 1: number than that in game that we can take on
Speaker 1: the Thunder six five and a half summer of that
Speaker 1: range and lay that versus laying nine and a half.
Speaker 1: I like the first quarter minus three for the Thunder
Speaker 1: to ride the energy of the home crowd because these
Speaker 1: states in which the only there's only one professional sports team,
Speaker 1: and the Thunder have the entire state of Oklahoma and
Speaker 1: even northern Texas so locked in to what they're doing.
Speaker 1: It's a different environment. It's all this is what they've
Speaker 1: been dreaming about of having the NBA Finals and building.
Speaker 2: Might be some loyalist over there as seattleists Pulliford and sou.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. So I think that building is going
Speaker 1: to be for the Pacers to walk in there in
Speaker 1: Game one, first time NBA Finals for so many of
Speaker 1: these players. We've seen Halliburton get overwhelmed by the moment
Speaker 1: against the Knicks at MSG at times. I just think
Speaker 1: this is going to be a first quarter. I expect
Speaker 1: a pretty decent lead in Game one here after the
Speaker 1: first quarter. So I'm attacking that just in that market
Speaker 1: with the minus three in the first quarter, But how
Speaker 1: are you going to attack game one?
Speaker 2: So you look at the numbers and OKAC has been
Speaker 2: really really dominant in one aspect here at home, and
Speaker 2: it's the opponent's team total. They are one and eight
Speaker 2: opponents are when playing OKAC at home in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: To their team total.
Speaker 1: Great stat, one in eight.
Speaker 2: I mean, and guess what the one one one? The
Speaker 2: one win was the debacle in Game one against Denver
Speaker 2: where Denver.
Speaker 3: Came all the way back. Yeah, only time a team
Speaker 3: got over their team total that.
Speaker 1: Was the overtime overtime game.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was over time. I think it
Speaker 2: ended in regulation, pulling for overtime. I think the overtime
Speaker 2: game was another one. But yes, that debacle, that's that's
Speaker 2: what it takes for you to get over the team
Speaker 2: totally gets okay. See at home in the playoffs, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I bet against the Pacers and not making that happen
Speaker 2: again like it and yes, fast paced game. I really
Speaker 2: do think it that that matters for like for an
Speaker 2: over and I think a lot of I've seen a
Speaker 2: lot of people taken over because of the fast pace,
Speaker 2: and maybe it over still gets there because okay See
Speaker 2: just has this.
Speaker 3: Great scoring day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I think that OKAYC is good enough
Speaker 2: in transition on defense that it doesn't matter the pace
Speaker 2: of the game. And then OKAYC can also change this
Speaker 2: into a game that they feel more comfortable in because
Speaker 2: while okay See plays fast, they can slow the game
Speaker 2: down and they can play out of the half court
Speaker 2: pretty well as well. And let SGA get iceo ball
Speaker 2: a couple of times and start to go off there,
Speaker 2: and I don't think that they'll have anything for that.
Speaker 2: They couldn't stop Brunt and I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 2: be able to stop it SGA. So this is a
Speaker 2: really really good spot where faid the team total for
Speaker 2: the Pacers. I think they're gonna struggle with this Oka
Speaker 2: See different defense is gonna be completely different than what
Speaker 2: they saw from the Knicks because they were getting wide
Speaker 2: open shots from the Knicks in the entire series. They're
Speaker 2: not gonna get this in Game one on the road
Speaker 2: here and like you said, that atmosphere is gonna be crazy.
Speaker 2: Love the Pacers team sot under I got it at
Speaker 2: one cent and a half.
Speaker 3: And I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two thirty one is the total, and the problem
Speaker 1: with that, like you mentioned, is it can be one
Speaker 1: twenty to one hundred and it goes under. Like how
Speaker 1: many points do we expect the Pacers to score? I
Speaker 1: think you're right on this. I think one oh five
Speaker 1: somewhere in that range or under for the Pacers, just
Speaker 1: given the defensive intensity that we're gonna see from all
Speaker 1: eight nine ten guys coming at you, whether it be Sga,
Speaker 1: whether it be Dort, They're gonna get up in your grill.
Speaker 1: And this fast paced Pacers team. Look what they did
Speaker 1: to the Timberwolves. Now, I know the Pacers play faster
Speaker 1: than Minnesota does, but they wouldn't allow Anthony Edwards to
Speaker 1: get going downhill. They just did a great job of
Speaker 1: handing him off and stopping his dribble drive in penetration
Speaker 1: to the rim. Halliburton does a very similar thing, Like
Speaker 1: that's what gets him going when he can go up
Speaker 1: Temple in the open court and use his size to
Speaker 1: get to the rim. I think they're gonna shut him
Speaker 1: down and make somebody else beat them. And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure who that's going to be. I know Pascal Siaka
Speaker 1: won the Eastern Conference m v P uh Finals MVP.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that was warranted. I think even Helliburton
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna win the m v P and
Speaker 1: it went clearly he took. He took like two steps forward, man.
Speaker 2: Man. He made it from the back of the pile up,
Speaker 2: so I've I've been I've done this before. So that's
Speaker 2: how I know. He made it from the back of
Speaker 2: the pile and conveniently was up at the front like yeah,
Speaker 2: if they call me, I'm right here, Like.
Speaker 1: No, it was Saco, so he would so like that's
Speaker 1: my I mean, obviously he can go off and be
Speaker 1: a big weapon here, but I just I look at
Speaker 1: you know, Miles Turner has to be such a big
Speaker 1: weapon here for his length, giving up against Chet and
Speaker 1: giving up against Hartenstein. I just I think there's just
Speaker 1: so many players that the Thunder.
Speaker 3: Have can't shoot anymore then more.
Speaker 1: I I said this before. I said this on my
Speaker 1: other show and pacer Fan got really mad at me.
Speaker 1: But I'll say it again. I think at all five positions,
Speaker 1: the Thunder are better at all five starting positions. I'll
Speaker 1: take the Thunder player in all five and.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's look at this we got point guard
Speaker 2: what SGA you call it a point sure, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: SGA Haliberger okay, check nem Hard and oh well I
Speaker 2: mean you could put him up Jada or do right, yeah,
Speaker 2: any combination of.
Speaker 3: Ye, okay, all right, man, alright, man uh.
Speaker 1: Hartenstein Hart and sign against Turner.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So if you told me that, if you told me
Speaker 2: it was Hart and Stein and Pascal, I'd be like, Okay, okay, maybe.
Speaker 1: But I think it's it. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like it depends.
Speaker 2: You know, his position is bad, what depends how you
Speaker 2: put it. I could I could understand if he was
Speaker 2: a little upset if he thought Pascal was better than Hartstein.
Speaker 2: But regardless, there is a very good point to be
Speaker 2: made that that they aren't better at one position in
Speaker 2: the starting lineup.
Speaker 1: In the bench. Whose bench would you rather have? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the Thunders bench.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: So I mean you can make a case that maybe
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle is the better coach. Okay, maybe make that
Speaker 1: case if you want to, But I think there's an
Speaker 1: argument that would be and.
Speaker 2: So for me, that would just be the fact of
Speaker 2: he's old and he's been around the league and he's
Speaker 2: done it before, and yes, and he has a ring
Speaker 2: like that's why you're giving it to him. But like
Speaker 2: daznelds outplayed him over throughout the entire year.
Speaker 1: So they've played two times this year, both wild blowout
Speaker 1: wins by the Thunder and the Thunder obviously the one
Speaker 1: seed they have home court. They've been sitting and resting
Speaker 1: because they ripped through the Western Conference. I just I
Speaker 1: don't see a path here other than the Thunder giving
Speaker 1: up wide open threes and the Pacers shooting lights out
Speaker 1: for four games to win this series. That's why the
Speaker 1: price is where the price is. And I know it's disrespectful,
Speaker 1: and I know people in the public are gonna run
Speaker 1: to the window to take the five to one. This
Speaker 1: feels like a heavyweight boxing fight where there's a big
Speaker 1: favorite and everybody wants the dog to win, and then
Speaker 1: the dog is on the canvas looking at the ceiling
Speaker 1: in the second round saying what the hell happened and
Speaker 1: they got knocked the bleep out. I just I don't
Speaker 1: want to say this is not gonna be a great series.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's going to be a great series.
Speaker 1: I think Okac wins game one and two. I think
Speaker 1: more than likely they cover games one and two and
Speaker 1: then game three, like I mentioned, is a toss up,
Speaker 1: probably goes to the Pacers and then four or five
Speaker 1: goes to the thunder. If that's the case, can anybody
Speaker 1: else besides SGA be given the MVP in your mind? No, yeah,
Speaker 1: probably not.
Speaker 2: You have to you have to get thirty. You have
Speaker 2: to be at thirty points per game to win the MVP.
Speaker 2: You have to be north thirty points per game because
Speaker 2: SGA is gonna be at thirty, and I think the
Speaker 2: only hope that you have for him not being at
Speaker 2: thirty is that OKC beat the crap out of them
Speaker 2: so bad that he didn't get the chance see even
Speaker 2: be in the game in the fourth quarter at times.
Speaker 1: But like it is human, I mean, humans are voting.
Speaker 1: So that's the one issue with this is the human
Speaker 1: beings are the ones awarding this thing. So to your point,
Speaker 1: you know, if SGA just is pedestrian scores twenty five
Speaker 1: a game, which is still great but not great by
Speaker 1: his standards.
Speaker 2: Maybe, like even for that, you have to have this
Speaker 2: other thing that you did that makes you even somebody
Speaker 2: that they consider because at least Andrea Godala. His claim
Speaker 2: to fame was that he stopped Lebron and that's where
Speaker 2: they were like, oh wait, he stopped Lebron, Like okay,
Speaker 2: that's what Igo Dalla had, Like what did Jada you
Speaker 2: stop Halliburton? Nieman Like like look like, what is it
Speaker 2: if you're not scoring? What is that other thing? Like
Speaker 2: you have to have a triple double? Like what is
Speaker 2: that other thing that you're gonna have over SGA? There's
Speaker 2: nothing that you're possibly gonna have outside of the scoring,
Speaker 2: other than maybe you averaged a triple double or some
Speaker 2: in crazy other stat But like, no, I don't believe it.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a SGA's all right, let's say I'm wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say the thunder it's seven pacers winning seven. It's
Speaker 1: an amazing series, amazing historic anybody besides Halliburton win the MVP.
Speaker 2: They told you they already set the primed it with Pascal.
Speaker 2: They did it last year with Jaylen Brown. They primed
Speaker 2: it and you knew That's why I bet him for
Speaker 2: finals MVP last year because like they already told us
Speaker 2: who they like better, Like they told us, like why
Speaker 2: are we we don't have to go back and forth
Speaker 2: like they told us who he liked better, because I
Speaker 2: truly believe at this point it's a popularity award by
Speaker 2: the voters, not a popularity award by the fans. The
Speaker 2: popularity award by the voters. Who do those tim bodapins.
Speaker 3: Who is it?
Speaker 2: Reggie Miller? You saw Reggie Miller had Haliburton. That's his
Speaker 2: popular that's his guy, that's his favorite guy. He never
Speaker 2: talked about Pascal like he talked about Halliburton because Halliburton
Speaker 2: played his position, shoots threes like you know, they played
Speaker 2: like they played like each other. So it's a it's
Speaker 2: a it's a personality. What's the what's the word I'm
Speaker 2: looking for us?
Speaker 3: A personality contest and popularity contest.
Speaker 2: Popularity, that's it. Poplar contest. Yes, yeah, I think it's Pascal.
Speaker 2: If if the Pacers win, is clearly Pascal.
Speaker 1: And that's da wins it. If it's going to be
Speaker 1: the Thunder, I think you're probably right on. That's why
Speaker 1: it's mis five point fifty.
Speaker 2: On SGA to win the seen the Finals MVP be
Speaker 2: different from the because I know the award is new.
Speaker 2: The Eastern Conference in the Western Conference. They're only like
Speaker 2: a couple of years old or something like that. Have
Speaker 2: we seen somebody be different?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Brown didn't win the Eastern Conference m
Speaker 1: v P, right, he won the MVAS conference, won them both. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 3: MVP passed winners. Let me look this up real quick.
Speaker 1: Has it been different? I don't know, it's it's a
Speaker 1: great question. Yeah, so it would makes sense.
Speaker 2: Pascal Sam, Jalen Brown, Jimmy Butler, Jason Tatum. So the
Speaker 2: only person that won the championship there was Brown, and
Speaker 2: Brown won m v P.
Speaker 3: So Western one for one on one and then let's
Speaker 3: see Western Conference. Uh, here we go.
Speaker 4: We've got uh wait, hold on, so Luca and then
Speaker 4: Jokic stuff, Steph wanted, yolks want it, and then you
Speaker 4: know Luke Laws.
Speaker 1: Yep, so it goes. Let me ask you a couple
Speaker 1: of fun prop questions for the series. And this is
Speaker 1: coming from our friends at FanDuel. So just different books
Speaker 1: are going to have different markets, but this is one
Speaker 1: unique one. Seventeen to one. Well, either team beat the
Speaker 1: Celtics single game NBA final scoring record for a single
Speaker 1: game one hundred and forty nine points is what Boston
Speaker 1: scored to set the NBA Final scoring record for a
Speaker 1: single game. It's seventeen to one. Obviously, we think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be the thunder that would do it. But the
Speaker 1: score they've scored one hundred and forty eight in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: We well, I'll say they they opened the door for
Speaker 2: it to be Indiana two because if you remember Game
Speaker 2: three in the Western Conference Finals, Minnesota put up.
Speaker 1: One forty three, true, So the.
Speaker 3: Door is open for it to be Indiana as well.
Speaker 1: Either team, it's gotta be one fifty. Either team do it.
Speaker 3: At seventeen one.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's actually I don't think it's horrible
Speaker 2: because both of because at one point it's just will
Speaker 2: somebody give up?
Speaker 3: That's all you're hoping for.
Speaker 2: Somebody just give up that day, because it's not gonna
Speaker 2: be like a close like it's not gonna be a
Speaker 2: close game where both teams are at one forty one
Speaker 2: and trying.
Speaker 3: To push it. It's got to be somebody gave up.
Speaker 2: And Okac has the bench where all of them in
Speaker 2: the finals are gonna continue to put up threes, are
Speaker 2: going to continue to put up shots and keep going.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's likely, but it's a chance. I mean,
Speaker 2: both of these two teams can put up one thirty
Speaker 2: if I feel like you're, if I feel confident of
Speaker 2: you to put up one thirty, then it just takes
Speaker 2: a little bit of giving up on the other end,
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, you're at one fifty. So
Speaker 2: and then probably won't bet it. But I think that
Speaker 2: at seventeen to one, it's not horrible.
Speaker 1: At thirty to one, well, either team break the single
Speaker 1: quarter NBA three point made record, which is over ten.
Speaker 1: No eleven made threes thirty to one hit eleven threes
Speaker 1: in a quarter. I don't know that given where the
Speaker 1: NBA is, if somebody gets goes crazy, it hits five
Speaker 1: by themselves and the other guys hit six.
Speaker 2: I don't think either team is that good of a
Speaker 2: of a three point shooting team that they just go ahead.
Speaker 1: And bomb it away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like.
Speaker 2: I don't, because you have to put up the attempts
Speaker 2: to even get there for one and then yeah in
Speaker 2: one quarter. Yeah, I don't know, Like because's who's says consistent,
Speaker 2: Like who's as consistent to be able to do that?
Speaker 3: Nah, I don't think that I don't like that one.
Speaker 2: I like the I like the one fifty seventy point
Speaker 2: one better than that at thirty to one.
Speaker 3: Actually.
Speaker 1: And finally, this would probably only be Halliburton, but Magic
Speaker 1: Johnson's at the record for the single assists.
Speaker 3: Twenty two two. They asked this every year.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred to one.
Speaker 2: They asked this every year, And I just think all
Speaker 2: like those are the records that I think are gonna
Speaker 2: stay in the record books, like the Magic twenty two.
Speaker 3: Uh, there's even more. Like there's the rebounds one.
Speaker 2: It's like forty something rebounds that you have to get
Speaker 2: to break the rebounds record. It's like, all of those
Speaker 2: are the ones that are just gonna stand the test
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 1: Like let's see the rebound they have that up about
Speaker 1: the rebounding ones not up. The steals one is up.
Speaker 1: That's Robert Ory's eight steals. That's one hundred to one
Speaker 1: to get nine steals in a game. Curry's single quarter
Speaker 1: NBA Finals seven made threes by one player, that's one
Speaker 1: hundred to one. And then the block record set by
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard, that's two hundred to one to record eleven
Speaker 1: blocks in an NBA Finals game. You just don't see
Speaker 1: that anymore from players. No one's blocking eleven shots. We're
Speaker 1: not seeing back to the basket.
Speaker 2: That's something that you just got to wait and like
Speaker 2: watch because at some point I think Wemby will be
Speaker 2: in the finals. Watching is in the finals. That's when
Speaker 2: they dropped the price. They conveniently dropped the price on
Speaker 2: that win. When win, he makes the finals. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I'm good the playoff records. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: here's the rebounds one. The rebounds one is forty one
Speaker 2: plus rebounds you need Bill Russell one hundred No, yeah,
Speaker 2: one hundred.
Speaker 1: To one, one hundred to one. Yeah, they're all.
Speaker 3: Forty one rebounds.
Speaker 2: Like, come on, I feel like I want better than
Speaker 2: one hundred to one if I gotta get forty rebounds.
Speaker 1: Coo on how many how many rebounds in general are there?
Speaker 1: I mean, like most teams get forty in a game.
Speaker 1: If one player get forty, it's a lot of misshots.
Speaker 2: Because the one that I was looking at, the one
Speaker 2: that I was looking at for a while that I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, SGA might be able to get that
Speaker 2: one is the points one.
Speaker 3: But then I saw what the number one and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, sixty two points in a game, yeah,
Speaker 3: forget it, and only sixty.
Speaker 2: To one for sixty two points, Like that's not even
Speaker 2: I could build a parlay with sixty points that it'd
Speaker 2: be more than sixty to one.
Speaker 1: Fair, fair, fair, All right, as we wrap, let's get
Speaker 1: to our plays here for the NBA Finals. In game
Speaker 1: number one, what are you playing for the finals?
Speaker 3: All right? We both talked about it.
Speaker 2: Under for the series total games five and a half
Speaker 2: played that and I did play in game one the
Speaker 2: Pacers team total under one ten and a half. I
Speaker 2: will throw I don't like to throw out any type
Speaker 2: of lanes or anything like that. But one thing that
Speaker 2: I am considering, and I haven't gotten there yet, is
Speaker 2: Jay Dubb. His points per game for the series is
Speaker 2: at twenty two point two, I think something like that,
Speaker 2: and I think that's a little bit too much, just
Speaker 2: because again, they've been bad on the road, and if
Speaker 2: you have, and when he's bad, he bottoms out like
Speaker 2: he's like six points per game, And if you have
Speaker 2: a six point per game, that's gonna bring your average
Speaker 2: early down. So I'm getting very very close to betting
Speaker 2: Jadub's under points per game for the series. I haven't
Speaker 2: gotten there yet though.
Speaker 1: For me, I bet before Game seven of the second
Speaker 1: round against the Denver Nuggets. It was plus one ten.
Speaker 1: It was gonna be the last time the thunder would
Speaker 1: have been plus money, and so I jumped on that.
Speaker 1: So it's not fair to give out a number that's
Speaker 1: been gone for two and a half weeks with a
Speaker 1: thunder plus one ten. But I'm letting that ride if
Speaker 1: I was gonna something, though, I think your under five
Speaker 1: and a half games is a really good play shop
Speaker 1: though I wouldn't pay the juice like FANDL is a
Speaker 1: bit ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I think so it's a one twent last I checked
Speaker 2: on betemgum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so shop around. There's gonna be different prices at
Speaker 1: different books. Definitely find the under five and a half
Speaker 1: games at a price that's gonna be cheaper than what
Speaker 1: Fandel has. Uh. I'm sure there'll be some books that
Speaker 1: will have better prices. So find the best price on
Speaker 1: that and bet under five and a half games. I
Speaker 1: think that is a gentleman sweep. I think it's a
Speaker 1: four to one. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.
Speaker 1: If you ask me who I want to win. I'm
Speaker 1: okay with either one. I think the Thunder or a
Speaker 1: really cool story. I think it's awesome for the NBA
Speaker 1: to have a team that has been somewhat maligned because
Speaker 1: of what happened with Kevin Durant and that whole James
Speaker 1: Harden Russell Westbrook iteration that never really lived up to
Speaker 1: the hype, and now this iteration with SGA and Chet
Speaker 1: and company. It's it's wild to watch them be this good,
Speaker 1: and I think they are a historically good team that
Speaker 1: I don't care about the path. I think they're really good.
Speaker 1: They're really well coached, they play great defense, they're fun,
Speaker 1: they're up tempo. I don't care about the referees. If
Speaker 1: I hear about Pacer Vans crying about SGA getting calls,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna freak out. Okay, that's not why they're gonna
Speaker 1: lose this series. It's not the guys in the stripes.
Speaker 1: It's because the players on the Thunder are really damn good.
Speaker 1: So like the Thunder four and a half, but for
Speaker 1: Game one, I'm gonna use the environment. I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: the energy in the first quarter and lay three. Don't
Speaker 1: lay three and a half, but lay three here, it's
Speaker 1: book dependent Summer three and a half. Summer three, lay
Speaker 1: the three on the Thunder to go ahead and have
Speaker 1: a three point leader or better in the first quarter
Speaker 1: after the first quarter of game number one. I do
Speaker 1: think the under in game one is a decent Look,
Speaker 1: I know you talked about leans under two thirty one.
Speaker 1: I think everyone's betting over everyone's assuming pace, and I
Speaker 1: think your point is completely accurate. They're overlooking the defense
Speaker 1: for OKAC, They're overlooking just how good they are in
Speaker 1: the wing and how just fundamentally sound the are defensively
Speaker 1: that This is not the Knicks, this is not anyone
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. The West has been very I
Speaker 1: don't want to say, you know, wide open outside of
Speaker 1: the Thunder, but like you look at the teams and
Speaker 1: how they've played, it's been okay see. Everybody else's it
Speaker 1: was okay see, it was okay see, and then everybody else.
Speaker 1: It was a massive difference. The East was far more
Speaker 1: jumbled up with the Cavaliers and the Celtics and then
Speaker 1: the Knicks and the you know, there's just a lot
Speaker 1: more teams in the East. Now with the Pacers coming
Speaker 1: out of it, we overlooked the Thunder. We didn't give
Speaker 1: them enough respect all year for just how good they were.
Speaker 1: I think the under two thirty one in Game one
Speaker 1: to good. Look, but your look at under team total
Speaker 1: four uh for the Pacers. I like that as as well.
Speaker 1: Coming up, all right, fast break bets Terrell. If guys
Speaker 1: want to go and watch, what are they going to
Speaker 1: see when they listen to you each day talking both
Speaker 1: WNBA and NBA basketball.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you're and I mean it's gonna be even
Speaker 2: more basketball as we get into the summer, because man,
Speaker 2: I'm a degenerate. I love watching different basketball leagues. Big Three,
Speaker 2: oh wow, one with there. Yeah, we're gonna have fun.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have fun with Big Three, TBT. I love
Speaker 2: the TBT tournament. That's fun, that's nostalgic. So we're gonna
Speaker 2: continue this going. When NBA stops is WNBA, then we
Speaker 2: got all the auxiliary leagues that we talk about as
Speaker 2: we roll on along here. So basketball never stops is
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven all year round, there's always a
Speaker 2: basketball league going on.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool for myself. With the Daily Juice podcast,
Speaker 1: you guys have got that every single day, either on
Speaker 1: your audio, podcast platforms or on our YouTube channel for
Speaker 1: betting pros Baseball. Obviously, we're heavily into that. The look
Speaker 1: the Cup finals for the Hoffer Hockey, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: hyper competitive. I don't think the NBA Finals will be,
Speaker 1: but we know that the Panthers and the Oilers are
Speaker 1: gonna go six or seven games. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: really fun series back in back to back. So we'll
Speaker 1: have that cover for you obviously with the Major League Baseball,
Speaker 1: and we'll even maybe get into college baseball at some
Speaker 1: point during the month of June because we're gonna run
Speaker 1: out of things to bet, unfortunately, because I do think
Speaker 1: this NBA Finals is gonna be over kind of quick,
Speaker 1: so I don't hate all baseball days, so I might
Speaker 1: be coming to get into the exotics and as you
Speaker 1: call the auxiliary leagues with comed Hey, come on.
Speaker 3: Come over, Summer League, Come on.
Speaker 1: Over the summer. That's here, that's in Vegas. I can
Speaker 1: bet that live, that's here, I can bet that in person,
Speaker 1: so I can go watch that. Let alone bet that
Speaker 1: he is Darrell Furman. I am parol. Thank you guys
Speaker 1: for watching. This is the last time we're gonna be
Speaker 1: talking to you guys for the NBA season. Let's see
Speaker 1: if Terrell and I are right the thunder. You're twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five NBA champs. I say in five,
Speaker 1: so is Terrell. Let's see what happens. If you disagree
Speaker 1: with us, tell us in the comments, make your own
Speaker 1: predictions on this one, and then'll be back next year
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