1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to this edition of Amy and TJ. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: This is actually part two of our fascinating conversation with 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: the dog Whisperer, Caesar Milan, And what struck us the 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: most is you don't have to be a dog owner 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: to actually glean so much information from this man, because 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: he's talking about being a good human and that's how 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: you end up having a good dog. Hadn't really thought 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: about it in those terms before. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, all you folks out there and think you got 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: bad dogs, No, those dogs are bad owners. That's you. 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: And that's how he explains it. But we never imagine 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: that a conversation with him, the great famous dog whisper, 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: would turn into a philosophical conversation therapy for a lot 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: of us as well. And of course I know you 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: wondering how many dogs does this guy have? Yeah, we 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: got into that as well. So here now part two 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: of our conversation with the man himself, Caesar Milan. Let 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: us know how many dogs do you have? Are you 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: training or you? How many are on the. 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 4: Rain right now? I only have ten, only have ten, 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 4: but I have Lamas, I'll Pacas and EMUs and I 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: have all the I have seventeen different species. They require 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: also to walk, yes, So that's why I slowed down 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: on the dog amount so I can have other species 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: because I like to help people to also achieve for 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: a dog not to have prey drive. So a lot 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: of dogs have prey drive, right, So that's why I 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: bring the farm animals so people learn. Yes, So what 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: happens when a person has an incident or an accident 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: with a squirrel and the dog you know, catches the 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: squirrel that get scared, But they have never had that 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: experience with a lama. So I bring them around the 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 4: lama so have a new experience and so they can 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: see that they can do it. You see it, because 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: once the person achieved the wrong thing, it's really hard 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: to remove that. They can believe and that's not going 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: to happen, you see it. So I bring a new 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: species that you never had a problem with, You never 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: had a trauma with it, so it's not in your 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 4: mind because you only become afraid of what you saw. 41 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: But what you didn't see is a possibility, you see it. 42 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: So that's why I need to bring different because my 43 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: goal is to rehablet the humans do right. So at 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: one point I have to become a human whisper. 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: It sounds like it. Now we've talked a lot on 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: this podcast hell and even our personal lives and dealing 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: with a lot of I mean therapy and trauma and 48 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: people trying to live better and reading. Ekhar totallyan you 49 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: in talking to you now, and look, I'm familiar with 50 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: you over the years. You sound like one of those 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: philosophers who is yeah, we're talking about dogs, but you are. 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: You sound to me like you're finding humans a path 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: forward and being more connected to Earth the moment, the environment, 54 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: what is in front of you is was that I 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: know you need to train the humans to get the 56 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: dog trained. Yeah, but you sound like more in my opinion, 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: you get what I'm saying along those lines. 58 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: Of a spiritual philosopher. 59 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: Yes, but the dog makes it tangible. See, Ekar totally 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: can make it tangible. Right because Kytolia is going to 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: tell you things. They are gonna go to your mind. 62 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you things that you can practice 63 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: right away, and you can see that that your silence 64 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 4: is your spirit. So you're better than that car is no, No, 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: it's a good friend of mine. Yeah, because we all 66 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: go after the better of the human. 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: You know. 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 4: That's what the new show is called, Better Human, Better 69 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: Planet or better human, Better dog, you know. But it's 70 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: definitely my contribution, you know, from all the guys deep 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: At Obrien and Wayne Dyer and er Car Cooley and 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: you know, and Tony Robbins, all of those, they want 73 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: the human to become the best energy, the best philosophy, 74 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: the best action. But where are you going to practice, right, 75 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: So then the dog, because a dog is very forgiving. 76 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: You can practice over and over and over before you 77 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: go into the human. The human doesn't forgive as much. 78 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: So you can make us millions of mistakes with the dog. 79 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: But the day they do it right, boom. They live 80 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: in the moment, so they change and they say, oh 81 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: I finally change. See with a human, they give you 82 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: two three chances. And that's it. Is that he says 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: he's like a dog. 84 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: He makes me want to get a dog. Yeah, because 85 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: to his point, you can practice all these things the 86 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: tools he's given you. You can see the results different from 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: a cart that is I've never thought about it. Yeah. 88 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: And then for guys or ladies who are going to 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 4: become parents anytime, make sure that you practice with a dog, 90 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 4: you said, because pet parent. It requires the same energy 91 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 4: and same actions. The only thing that changes is the philosophy, 92 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: because one is a human the other one is a dog. 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: But a kid or a dog needs patient's calmness, confidence, love, 94 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: joy to be raised a kid or a dog. A 95 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: dog needs exercise, di benefection. 96 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: It's like a starter child. 97 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: I like that. 98 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, well you can make mistakes and and and you 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: can always fix it. With a child, you make me 100 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: mistake that you're traumatized the. 101 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Therapy, you gotta spend money later. 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: You spend money in the beginning, and then with a dog, 103 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: it's just okay, I'm going to get to see myself. 104 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: Maybe you get a second chance after you've already raised 105 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: your children and made all the mistakes, and then you 106 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: can get the dog. 107 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 4: Right. 108 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Can you teach an old dog nu tricks? 109 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: I have? Yeah? 110 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: It must the dogs not humans. 111 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: Is it that much harder once they've already had established patterns? 112 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: Are repetitions right? It's three sixty five repetitions of the 113 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 4: wrong thing. So it just takes a little bit more months, 114 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 4: but not years. I mean the longest case, I it 115 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 4: took me three months and the dog was already six 116 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 4: years being aggressive, but aggressive like already being successful biting things. 117 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: Have you been bit by a dog? 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 119 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: I figured the answer had to be yes. And you 120 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: have you ever had a fear of dogs? If you're 121 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: dealing with an especially aggressive dog, how do you handle that? 122 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: Mentally breathing. 123 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: And then believing? So I believe that I can change 124 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 4: through my breath and my knowledge. See the love and 125 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: the joy is after. I can only celebrate once I 126 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 4: achieved the com surrender because that dog in a fight mode, right, 127 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: So how you remove chaos? You believe you breathe, you 128 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: do it. You believe you breathe, you do it, and 129 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 4: then thought you get it. 130 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: That's actually reminding me. 131 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: So I am a dog owner, but he's this cute, 132 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: little fluffy multipoo who doesn't look like he would harm 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: a fly, and he never has. However, I'm also a runner, 134 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: and I have experienced multiple times very frightening experiences where 135 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: a dog is off the leash or got out of 136 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: the fence, or even worse to me, has been in 137 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: a foreign country where they could be rabid, they're not 138 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: well taken care of, they're aggressive, and I have had 139 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: absolute fear just ripple through me. And I never know 140 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: what to do. I've solely backed away, but I've how 141 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: do you how do you give yourself power or be 142 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: empowered in that moment to find a way to connect 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: with that dog or not have that dog attack you. 144 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: Well, you visualize before you actually go in that situation, right, 145 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: and then you tell your brain, brain, if this happens 146 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: to me, this is how I want to react. And 147 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: then you start practicing on the mirror, right, And so 148 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: you start preparing because you have because remember, the mind 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: believes it's real even though it's not real. Right, So 150 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: you can start practicing this and Ericause says, so you 151 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: already saw it. But then you're telling your mind this 152 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: is how I want to practice. This is how I 153 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: want to behave next time. So you're running, you're running, 154 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: the dog is barking. 155 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: You stop, You breathe, your calm. 156 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: Then you make the energy bigger because as you're moving 157 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: your prey. 158 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: Right, I know that's how I feel. 159 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: Look at the cats when they protect themselves from a dog, 160 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: they stop. 161 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: Sease. I love you. I don't know if I can 162 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: be on board with this one. 163 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 5: Because I've been running on smiling. You know, we have 164 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 5: to figure out where we don't know this path, and 165 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 5: we get up to this neighborhood and you know, there's 166 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 5: some cars on blocks and some construction going on. 167 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I hear a dog. That dog's barking, 168 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: and that dog takes off after me, right, and I'm 169 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: already mid run. I promise you I've done this on 170 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: more than one occasion. Try to outrun that dog. I 171 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: never never crossed my mind. And I'm not going in 172 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: the mirror today season to practice well standing to the 173 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: idea of this whatever dog screaming coming after you full speed, 174 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to stop. 175 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: Remember you're passing their home. Yeah, because you're passing by 176 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: their home, not because they're doing that they want to 177 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 4: bite you. They just want to take you away from 178 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: their territory. So barking and chasing you away from the territory. 179 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: So for them for you to stop, they're not expecting 180 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: that reaction. 181 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: They want me to get the hell out of there, 182 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: and I'm wanting to get out of there, and. 183 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: You will once the dog turns back and said. 184 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: Oh you're too strong, okay, all. 185 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I know, I know. 186 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: Actually I have actually on runs said to myself mentally, 187 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: I am I'm sending you love. I know this sounds 188 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: really fun, but I've just I've tried to like put 189 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: an energy. 190 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Of love to do to the dog. 191 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well they haven't sort of chased me. They're barking 192 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: at me, and they could start chasing me. So I 193 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: actually stop running and I walk slowly and I send 194 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: them love in my head. 195 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: I don't I haven't been bitten yet. 196 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: Knock on works and you will never get bitten. You 197 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: got to create that, okay, you have to. You have 198 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: to send the message of you know, to to to universe, 199 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: to God and tell how you want to be protected, 200 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: direction protection love. So you can't just send love, you 201 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: have to send direction protection energy. That's your calm confidence source. Right, 202 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: that's the one that's the one that creates the leadership. 203 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: That's the one that moved things. 204 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: What does it say about why does a dog bite 205 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: in the first place? We usally all they're misbehaving or something, 206 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 3: But why is the dog bite? 207 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: But when it bites naturally, like when a mom bites 208 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: their children, is to correct them because they broke a 209 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: rule bond limitation. So by it I mean they don't 210 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 4: have hands, right, so they do that. It's just to 211 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: let them know, hey, you broke a rule, boundary limitations. 212 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: That's a normal bite, right, that's not aggressive bite, that's 213 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: a discipline bite. 214 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: Right. 215 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: But when the dog is you know, like and your 216 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: if you're passing by their territory and you don't stop 217 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: and they go after your ankles, it's because you're passing 218 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: by their territory, right, or the dog. You allow the 219 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: dog to overprotect food and then you come close back bites. 220 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: That's because you let him become too dominant. 221 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: Goodness, so he bites the handy feets, which is which 222 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: is wild. 223 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: You've got your halo hoodie on there, tell us about 224 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: So it is a fascinating thing when. 225 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: You do travel with your dog. 226 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: And my dog definitely has to be on a leash 227 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: because he will take off and it has been scary 228 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: a couple of times. 229 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: If you haven't heard, Brody is a problem. 230 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: He's a sweet. He's a sweet. 231 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: It's not the dog. 232 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: It's not the dog, that's true. 233 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: But you know, had him on a hike and yeah, 234 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: he will take off and I know he has to 235 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: say on a leash, But you actually have a remedy 236 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: for folks, especially if they're needing to have some sort 237 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: of boundary that maybe they haven't created or the we 238 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: don't have that connection where he can walk next to 239 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: me without a leash. 240 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Halo is the answer, at least for. 241 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: So AI can help. I mean a smart technology. The 242 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: first smart technology we learn to use as a leash. 243 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: That's what you know, A long long time ago, that's 244 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: how we tought the dog to stick clothes. Right, It's 245 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: a long line. That's how people used to teach a 246 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: dog boundaries. So people will bring a long line to 247 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 4: the beach and the dog will learn that only forty 248 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: feet twenty feet. So that's kind of uncomfortable, right, but 249 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: that's practically what it is, you know, it is to 250 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: tell the dog through technology. Eight. The human forget to 251 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: remind you the rules by limitations, but the collar is 252 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: going to is programmed to remind the dog A don't 253 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 4: touch the turkey, A don't bark at the window, A 254 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: you're going too far. Eight is the limits of playing 255 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: with that dogs overcome back. That's what you want. You 256 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 4: want that that under that reminder to the dog, and 257 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 4: then that's how the dog stays organized. And that's how 258 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: you fear goes away. And then you experience freedom. That's 259 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: what everybody wants, right, nobody gets a dog so we 260 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: can be isolated, right, But they end up being isolated 261 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: because the energy is wrong, the philosophy is wrong, and 262 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: the actions are wrong. That's how a dog ends up 263 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: being on a leash and he can't really you know, 264 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 4: be a leash where the where the person feels that 265 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 4: my dog is not gonna go away? And have you 266 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: ever been at the beach where where his dog dogs 267 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: in it? 268 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: Yep? 269 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: You see when people are at the beach with the dogs, 270 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: those those humans are allow more relaxed versus the people 271 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: who are in dog parks. 272 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: That's so true. 273 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: See, that's freedom and that's what I want people to get. 274 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: That energy that you see people when people go to 275 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: the beach with their dogs, because that's mother nature. That's 276 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: a whole. That's a beautiful combination of mother nature, your 277 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: dog and yourself. What do you go to the beach for? 278 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 4: For peace? How do you want to feel safe? What 279 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: do you feel after that? Love? 280 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: Safe? 281 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: Peace? 282 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: Love? 283 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: Why because you're practicing trash respect? 284 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: Love? 285 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: Why because your dog nows rules by the limitations? Why 286 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 4: because you have connection, communication, relationship, That's what happens naturally 287 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: when you have freedom and no fear. 288 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: You mentioned that it didn't matter. I was talking about 289 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: the breed, and I was doing research and all that. 290 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: But are there better breeds for certain families who have 291 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: young kids or for someone who is older. 292 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Do you suggest different types of breeds? 293 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: Or can any dog be good for anyone given the 294 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: right training and energy. 295 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: I suggest middle of the pack dogs, and then you 296 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: just choose what breed you like. You know, you like 297 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: with no hair, long hair, short legs, you know what 298 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Accents like this, you know, But how do. 299 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: You identify middle of the pack. 300 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 4: I mean they're literally worn like this. 301 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: He's doing a little bit literally like that, lucky. 302 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. So the back of the pack a little bit 303 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: more shy, the front of the pack the po So 304 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 4: if you watch a litter of puppies, there's going to 305 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: be only one that is to pick up the letter, 306 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: and it's going to be the biggest one. Is going 307 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: to take over when mom is breastfeeding. He's going to 308 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: move the brothers and sisters, he said, And it's only one. 309 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: Then the rest when you come and meet and you're 310 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: going to see these guys, and then you're going to 311 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: see the back of the pack, like who are you? 312 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: And you can see. 313 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: Well, but even to a lay person, we'd be able 314 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: to walk in and notice that. 315 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: Now you're looking for it, Now we're looking for you said, 316 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: you need to know what you're looking for, right, which 317 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: is something there we learn later in life. So what 318 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 4: do I want? You know what you need to do. 319 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: You need to make money, but you know where, how, 320 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: with who? Right? So you learn that along the way. 321 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: But once you know, once you have very clear what 322 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: life is all about, that's all you put in your 323 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: head and that's what you look for. 324 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: On the family. Since she was talking about and how 325 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: I think we've known folks recently even who have a 326 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: baby and they get rid of the dog because there's 327 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: an incident or something like that. Is it easier? Is 328 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: it an easier transition? It doesn't matter to have the 329 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: kid first and then introduce a dog into the home, 330 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: or to already have a dog and then introduce introduce 331 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: a child into the home, whatever you want. Either way 332 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: it can work. 333 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Because so if you raise a dog first, 334 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: the dog has rules, by limitations, trust, respect, love, right, 335 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: So then you bring a baby human into the picture, 336 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: and the way you introduce a baby human into the 337 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: picture is the dog is quiet and calm at a 338 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: distance social distance. Okay, it's almost like the way people 339 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: greeted the Queen of England. Right, social distance. You bow, 340 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: then she tells you to come in as a ritual, 341 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: So think about a baby like a ritual when people 342 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: meet the Queen of England. Social distance, come down, where 343 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: your turn? Come in? 344 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: But people get emotion. 345 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, because look at your brother. Oh look, just gonna 346 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: love him. Right. 347 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: But I get nervous when I see people who don't 348 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: know what they're doing, who haven't read your philosophy or 349 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: know about it, and they'll sit there and put the 350 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: dog right next to the baby's face. I get nervous 351 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: as a parent and a dog owner when I see that. 352 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Do you as well? 353 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: I mean, are there some rules that you should actually 354 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: or at least some research you should do before you 355 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: put a dog in a baby's face? 356 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: Yes? Of course you have to be because you're doing 357 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: the introduction right. So you're the link between the baby 358 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: human and the dog. You're the link. You're the one 359 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: that's gonna say, I want safe peace, love between both 360 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: both of you. I want trustrespect with both of you. 361 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: But the baby is going to be the pack leader 362 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: of you. Why because you are giving the energy to 363 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: the baby. This is your genetic pack. He's part of 364 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: the family, it is not. But he's also a stinct one, 365 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: you get it. So it's very important for a dog 366 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 4: to understand that you want absolute come surrender to that baby, 367 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 4: right because if you will have a gorilla, what would 368 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 4: you want the gorilla to feel about your come surrender? Indeed, exactly. 369 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 4: So my point is is in the animal world, if 370 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: you ask for come surrender, they give you loyalty. But 371 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 4: if you want their love and the excitement, they will 372 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: give you the accident wow you because you're talking to 373 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 4: the spirit and the instinct, not the specie. You want 374 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: a cat, a mouse, a squirrel to become surrendered to 375 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: your children, and that's how your child is going to 376 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: be safe because they're giving you their their most respectful 377 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: side of them, which is there comes surrender. 378 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: But do dogs get jealous? 379 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 4: No, they're like to share. They live in a group. 380 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: They live in a group. See, they're very they're very 381 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: family oriented, community oriented. We are the one that creates 382 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: all this new stuff. Oh it's being jealous. Is available right, 383 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: it's available, is available right. It's like, why would a 384 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 4: dog not share home family food? Why would not? That's 385 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: the way to keep the whole packup life. That's how 386 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: they do it right. So the whole jealousy thing is 387 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 4: because a lot of times people say, oh, it's because 388 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: he loves me so much. He said, that's why. No, 389 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 4: it's because you let them. I raised my kids. I 390 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: have two kids who are now thirty and twenty seven. 391 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 4: But when my kids were little, it was sixty. 392 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Five dogs, sixty five sixty. 393 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: Five whites, people's German shepherds in the hood. I was 394 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: in South Central and my kids were born and raised around. 395 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: This pack of dogs. And they're still my kids, still alive. 396 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: They have no urs. Yes, of course they have no choice. Man. 397 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: This is the last one question I have, and this 398 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: has to do everybody deals with this if you have 399 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: a dog or not, especially here in New York. What 400 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: is the proper way to behave when you encounter someone 401 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: dog on the street. First, for someone who is with 402 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: a dog and someone without a lot of people jump 403 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 3: in they want to pite somebody's dog. So tell what 404 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: what's the right interaction there? And also, I don't understand 405 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: dog owners stopping on the corner to let the dogs 406 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: do whatever they do together. Apparently you're supposed to. But yeah, 407 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: all that thing. What's the correct way to interact on 408 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: the street with a foreign dog? 409 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: Well, no touch, no talking right contact right, that's no touch, 410 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 4: no talk, right contact, Let the let the dog be calm, 411 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: surrender and that he comes to you. He wants to 412 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: smell you. He doesn't want to see you, he doesn't 413 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: want to hear. He wants to smell you. And then 414 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 4: you just stay calm, confident. And then there's that human 415 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 4: smells this way, but he wants the front position. So 416 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 4: your energy is what tells them what position you want. 417 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 4: Your scynth is your name. But if you go how 418 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: you doing? 419 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: Look at me? 420 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: That's what everybody does. 421 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, I wanted to smell. The dog can 422 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 4: smell you from me to a mile away like a 423 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like she doesn't come to 424 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: the dogs, The dog goes all the way to next town. See, 425 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 4: the scent is what makes a dog a dog is 426 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 4: his nose. A dog can be blind and deft, and 427 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: he still finds home. He will bring you back home 428 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: even though he's blind. It's the nose of a dog 429 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: and the trust of his instincts that keeps him alive. 430 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: And when when Brody interacts or they come upon another 431 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: dog on the street, what's the right thing to do. 432 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, not excited dogs, because they can 433 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 4: create a fight maybe or an attack, especially a big 434 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 4: dog and a little dog, right or the least can 435 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: take so, you see, and so as best they both 436 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 4: of the dogs going to come surrender. Think about the 437 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: dogs they live with. People with disabilities, you know, people 438 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 4: who are blind. They keep a dog colm surrender, right, 439 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 4: and then when they meet the boss comes and then 440 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: they let him go. So it's from zero to ten, 441 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 4: not from ten to one hundred. 442 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: It's about the calmness ahead of time and throughout the. 443 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 4: Walk everything in life, you know, as we grow, Oh 444 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 4: it's about silence. Oh it's about commonists. Oh, it's about surrendering. 445 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: And then it's the happy, go lucky. And then it's 446 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: the calm confident. Right now, we don't want to be 447 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: in a camp confident all the time. You know. The 448 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: way you learn is by silence, come surrender. The way 449 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: you celebrate is happy, go lucky. The way you make 450 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: things happen is calm, confident, But then you got to 451 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: turn that thing off. 452 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: Caesar, I had no idea that we were going to 453 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: learn about human philosophy as we were talking about dogs. 454 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: That was amazing, SERI, that was phenomenal. I learned so 455 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: much things I probably should have learned a decade ago. 456 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 2: But I am going to be applying this into my 457 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: personal life. 458 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: I was reading Gaby Bernstein and we had her in 459 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 3: studio not long ago. I need to talk to the 460 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: dog to get my life. 461 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 4: Simple. I make it simple. You know, English is not 462 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: my first language, so I have to life simplify words, natural, simple, profound, trouserspect, love, 463 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: ruled by limitation. Everything has a formula, rituals and symbols. 464 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on all your continued success. Just and it's 465 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: it's no surprise after having this conversation. Why you are 466 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: who you are? 467 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: The dog whisperer. 468 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah,