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Speaker 1: Your Tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goals, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's going on Steelers Nation Radio. Good afternoon, It's the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. West Shooler and

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson with you as we put a bow on

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Speaker 2: this week, Matt and a bow on the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five preseason. All three games now in the books.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll break this game down. And it wasn't

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Speaker 3: the most eventful football contest I've ever witnessed, and a

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Speaker 3: lot of me's happy that the preseason is over. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk about Harrimon, of course, at some point, but for

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Speaker 3: the most part, the team was unscathed, and I think

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Speaker 3: there's definitely more good than bad big picture from these

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Speaker 3: three games, and probably more good than bad yesterday as well.

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Speaker 3: Man Panthers didn't play anybody, No, I mean, I can't.

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Speaker 2: We can't stress that, not even their backup like they

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Speaker 2: barely played some backups.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know the league pretty well, and there

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Speaker 3: weren't many Carolina Panthers I knew, and watching that whole game,

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Speaker 3: who's that guy? You know? I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of court accountants and lawyers and dishtiggers out there, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so they just wanted to get over to

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Speaker 2: They just wanted to get it over as well. And listen,

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Speaker 2: there's always some element of that in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think this is maybe the most kind of I know,

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Speaker 2: you and I we all talk about the hurry up

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Speaker 2: and wait nature of what we do for a living.

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Speaker 2: Like you get real excited for training camp, and then

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Speaker 2: after a few practices you're like, all right, can we

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Speaker 2: get a preseas again? I'm excited for the preseason and

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Speaker 2: then it's like, can we get to the regular season please.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing with like the combine in the draft. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: we're all we're all jacked up every year and we

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Speaker 2: get to endy and then like by day five on

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Speaker 2: radio row, we're like, all right, killing going home will

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Speaker 2: be we just get to the actual draft here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the speculating and that's kind of where we're at now.

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Speaker 2: But as you mentioned, I think certainly still plenty to

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Speaker 2: get into there. Yeah. Yeah, and let's jump right into it.

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Speaker 2: The Derek Harmon storyline is I think obviously going to

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Speaker 2: be the most significant thing that comes out of of

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Speaker 2: last night's game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you use the word significant because you

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Speaker 3: know me, I'm not a reporter, I'm not a beat writer,

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Speaker 3: you know. And Dale would often correct me and pursued

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Speaker 3: it did last night in the postgame show, where I

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Speaker 3: was kind of acting like a fan, going, oh, look,

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Speaker 3: he's on the bench, he's laughing, he's giggling. They kept

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Speaker 3: showing him and tjme cam and you know, originally everyone

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Speaker 3: saw him on the going on the town on his head. Oh,

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Speaker 3: that's the end of the end of it, and even

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Speaker 3: pursued it then was like, yeah, we'll see, you know,

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Speaker 3: and then he said on the bench he's happy and

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Speaker 3: everything like, oh he's fine. He's like, we'll see, we'll see. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like that doesn't mean anything. And why I said the

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Speaker 3: word significant is coach Tomlin. You know, he after every game.

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Speaker 3: One of the first things he does, of course, is

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Speaker 3: the injury report, and he said it's a knee strain,

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Speaker 3: but he prefaced it by saying, branded the only significant

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Speaker 3: injuries are Brandon Johnson and Derek Harmon. The other ones

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Speaker 3: were like bumps and bruises of play or whatever. However,

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Speaker 3: he says that, you know, he says the same thing

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Speaker 3: every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, associated with play right what he says.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh, only strain, no big deal, will

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Speaker 3: words significant. This guy never says a word he doesn't mean.

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Speaker 3: He did say significant, And through much of the postgame show,

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Speaker 3: Mike kept saying, well, we'll see if he ends up

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Speaker 3: a d tackle And I'm sitting there thinking he was

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Speaker 3: happy with his buddies, you know, like, what are we

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Speaker 3: talking about? So we'll find out, and they're not gonna

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Speaker 3: tell us anything soon, No, I would imagine.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have to for Anut two not

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Speaker 2: even know, you know, I think I think everything that

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Speaker 2: PURSUITA said there is spot on. I do think there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a middle ground though that.

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Speaker 3: We knew it's not a blowout or in season.

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Speaker 2: That's if it was a And again, there's a difference

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Speaker 2: between significant and like devastating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I need to see Ice on it

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Speaker 2: But that also doesn't mean he's gonna be gung ho

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Speaker 3: Either exactly exactly, So we'll have to kind of play

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Speaker 3: that by ear. I'm totally guessing. Maybe it's just optimistic.

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Speaker 3: I doubt he ends up on any injury list, but

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Speaker 3: I bet he'll be not practicing for a while, and

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Speaker 3: maybe he's even questionable for week one when it's all

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Speaker 3: said and done, when we get to like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 3: Jets week, I mean, I bet there's some speculator. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I would be surprised if there wasn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And you know there's like all those now. I guess

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Speaker 2: you could call him like social media doctors. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: people who have legitimate but I don't mean social.

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Speaker 3: Media like I went on Google Williamson.

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Speaker 2: No, like people who were legitimate athletic doctors. There's the

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Speaker 2: guy who worked for the Chargers forever whose name is

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Speaker 3: Doctor Charles. Yes, the footballdoc dot com.

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Speaker 2: And they kind of give you good they're they're very accurate,

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Speaker 2: and they give you kind of a a broad brush,

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Speaker 2: but a typical time frame of what it looks like

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Speaker 3: Doesn't look like this is ripped, so it could be

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Speaker 2: And they were saying it could be anywhere from two

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Speaker 2: kind of question verse Jets game and hey, in the

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Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, we would love capital

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Speaker 2: maybe he misses the first game, maybe two, I also

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Speaker 2: don't think that's a disaster either.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a pretty deep position is it's not gonna

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Speaker 3: take long for us to get to. But his counterpart, Why.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly where I was going after this.

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Speaker 3: Might be better than him. I mean he is a

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Speaker 3: bad dude. I mean he now the people trying to

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Speaker 3: every time I watch Why Black, I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's been doing it to everybody for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I want to talk more harmon. But

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Speaker 3: it was like Black originally was like, man, they got

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Speaker 3: That's that's really cool. Now I'm like, he's going to

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Speaker 3: be a plus starter soon. Like I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 3: next Joe Green, but he could be really good. And

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Speaker 3: he might. When analysts from national analysts go back and

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Speaker 3: let's review the twenty twenty five draft, they might be like,

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Speaker 3: this was one of the best bargain picks of the

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Speaker 2: Right, this guy should have been a top twenty pick.

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Speaker 3: What didn't we see in this guy? You know, strong, quick,

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Speaker 2: And again and again there was the and I know

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Speaker 2: I've brought this up to you before. I know Dale

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Speaker 2: has brought this up before. There was a lot of

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Speaker 3: Yeah that like all did some real research, and the

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Speaker 2: If Kirk ference was basically didn't directly say this, but

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Speaker 2: basically inferred that, Like, if we would have had a

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Speaker 2: this guy would have lasted until Day three of the draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they he's one of our best players and

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Speaker 3: maybe our best player, and everyone here knows it.

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Speaker 2: I filled in for Max in the locker room this

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Speaker 2: morning with Kinger and I went back and looked this

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Speaker 2: up for Kinger and I's discussion purposes. Iowa went eight

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Speaker 2: there's a fine season. They only played they didn't play Orgon,

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Speaker 2: they didn't pay play Penn State, they didn't play Indiana,

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Speaker 2: they didn't play Michigan like, they didn't play a lot

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Speaker 2: and they got to it was like thirty thirty five

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Speaker 3: I remember that.

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Speaker 2: So it was kind of like, hey, if we would

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Speaker 2: been playing Oregon, in Penn State and Indiana these top

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Speaker 2: ten teams as well. Two, the secret on this guy

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Speaker 2: might not have lasted like it did.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point. Maybe they ended up six and six, but.

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Speaker 2: Again that's not to say he would have been a

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Speaker 2: first round pick. No, but maybe he's a third round pick,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe he's at the end of Day two.

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Speaker 3: And two things definitely hurt him as a draft prospect

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Speaker 3: was it was an unusually good and deep defensive tack

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Speaker 3: and the Shielders took two of them, not on accident.

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Speaker 3: Probably knew that going in the draft. There's a very

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Speaker 3: good percentage we're going to take two of these guys

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Speaker 3: because it's a great class. Let's go fishing in waters

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Speaker 3: that have a lot of fish. And he's he doesn't

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Speaker 3: have pass rush production. You know, we just know run

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Speaker 3: stuffers don't go high, you know, I mean they're considered

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Speaker 3: dime a dozen. He pushes people around the past much.

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Speaker 3: He's just not a space.

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Speaker 2: Eater guy, you know, he's absolutely not. And if we

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Speaker 2: were listed listing things to be most optimistic about, I

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Speaker 3: Almost like the most pleasant surprise of the whole camp

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Speaker 3: or the whole team.

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Speaker 2: It was July twenty third, I think that we reported

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Speaker 2: to La Trobe right. Does that sound so it's been

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Speaker 2: essentially it's the August twenty second today, it's been eventually

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Speaker 2: If I were listing like trending upwards, trending downwards, you know,

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Speaker 2: says I'm most positively by arrow up, arrow down, man,

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Speaker 2: he might be at the top of the arrow uplists.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sitting there, like what's in competition? I mean

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Speaker 3: being around Rogers is really cool. But I can't say

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked that Aaron Rodgers has a presence.

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Speaker 2: I think you can talk defensive depth, like, I think

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Speaker 2: we all thought that that was going to be a strength.

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Speaker 2: Now we really know that that's going to be a strength.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm pretty confident Ramsey is exactly what he.

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Speaker 2: Thought secondary with the arrow pointed way up as well too.

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Speaker 3: But Peyton Wilson, there's a handful of them. But when

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Speaker 3: your fifth round pick is a potential, you know, immediate

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Speaker 3: impact guy and maybe a star, maybe I'm getting ahead

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Speaker 2: Even if that's still a year or two away.

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Speaker 3: Then right, right, if he's at the Benton Harmon level, now,

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Speaker 2: Steeler's victorious down in Carolina nineteen to ten, relatively uneventful,

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Speaker 2: Right now? That's what if Aaron's out and Mason you

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Speaker 3: You don't want to put him in an NFL game.

434
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Speaker 2: On the shelf for a month.

435
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: I mean, don't forget what the stadium itself is, even

436
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 3: like I know he played in huge games at Ohio State.

437
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 3: The National Championship is huge too, But I mean it's

438
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 3: just a different world. Okay, go beat the Ravens, or

439
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: go beat the Bengals or even the Jets.

440
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it's Sunday night football and we're hosting

441
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: the Packers. Go out there and go get them.

442
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 3: And what I mean is the blitz packages and the

443
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 3: speed of the defenders and all the stuff they're going

444
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 3: to throw at you. That's too much to ask. And

445
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 3: the way pursuita is cut, the chase he's like, all right, listeners,

446
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 3: who do you think would who would you rather win

447
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 3: a game with today? Skyler or Howard? Right in the

448
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: answer Skyler, So he should be three.

449
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 2: And again I think even if you are.

450
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 3: Because you wouldn't lose Howard, that's that's smart or the

451
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: other you could have both totally yeah, yeah.

452
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 2: And again, like I said, I think even the biggest

453
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: Skyler Howard support.

454
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 3: Skyler Howard Skyler, Howard Skyler, I just can't.

455
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 2: I just poor Skyler. I just have to mess up

456
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 2: his name sometimes. The biggest Will Howard hard supporter in

457
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: the world, I think can like understand he's he's gonna

458
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: need some time to get back.

459
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 3: It'd be different if he was in all these preseason

460
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: games and looking good and I gotta pick one to

461
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 3: the other, you know, team Howard, team Skyler. Probably we had.

462
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: Seen him play a dozen drives over this preseason. It's

463
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: a different conversation.

464
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: Right right, So just didn't we were robbed of that?

465
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: We were And that's a bummer for the fans, for

466
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 2: the media, for him obviously certainly.

467
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: And he'll be like one of our most anticipate if

468
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: it goes that way, we'll be super psyched to see

469
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: him in camp next year.

470
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Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome, especially if the Steelers have a first round

471
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: draft pick quarterback too, and then it's like, hey, could

472
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 2: we potentially have our our Ben and Batch here for

473
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: the next decade. Sure, you know, there's a lot to

474
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Speaker 2: look forward to in that regard.

475
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: But I'm not moving Rudolph. I'm not there with Skyler.

476
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: I'm not either.

477
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 3: I'm very fine with him being a three. He's on

478
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Speaker 3: the fifty three. He'll be an active in Week one.

479
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 2: Because that in that goal, that conversation goes the same

480
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 2: way to win if you move, If you move, Mason,

481
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: Skyler's your two, Will's your three. Aaron Rodgers goes down

482
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 2: for a week or two, Yeah, you are one play

483
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: away from Will Howard being the only guy option, the

484
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 2: only option right right, And hey, listen, the Steelers have

485
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: navigated worse, but that's certainly still not a situation you

486
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: want to know than.

487
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: Your season shot. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, it's

488
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Speaker 3: it's really shot. No matter any team that goes to

489
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: their third quarterback, it'd be if it's more than a

490
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: game or get you out of the game or whatever.

491
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 3: You know that that's probably not going to get to

492
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 3: your goal. But if it comes to me, it comes

493
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 3: down to one simple question, is who gives you a

494
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 3: better chance to win an NFL regular season game? If

495
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: you had to line one of the two up today

496
00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: and it's Skyler.

497
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Speaker 2: It's very very easily Skyler. Yeah, yeah, all right. One

498
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: thing that I got to ask you from last night

499
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: as well too, is maybe we wrap up some fine

500
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: on I don't know if there's anything else you want

501
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: to get into the from the preseason game.

502
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do like roster cuts in our fifty three

503
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, probably next week.

504
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: Next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But along those lines, I

505
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: did not think last night, unless there's something unknown, which

506
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: is certainly a possibility, I did not think last night

507
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: was good for Beanie Bishop. I'm starting to think the

508
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: writing might be on the wall in that regard. So

509
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: didn't play. I say he had zero, zero snaps after

510
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: I think, like Tuesday, whenever the coaches spoke and the

511
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: coordinator spoke, Tara Austin said it's gonna be a big

512
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: game for a lot of guys, and he listed off

513
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 2: like four or five people, and Beanie was one of them.

514
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: And then he doesn't play a single snap okay that

515
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm reading into tea leaves, that doesn't

516
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: sound great.

517
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 3: Okay. As I often do pull back the curtain, I

518
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,239
Speaker 3: like just tell people how my process works, because if

519
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: you call me out after here in this twenty four

520
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: hours after, I just want to be full disclosure where

521
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: I'm at in my process. When I've been on the

522
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: air all morning doing national stuff, my other podcasts as things,

523
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 3: I'm not breaking down the Steelers third string nickel at

524
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: the time at the time on those podcasts, so I don't

525
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 3: want to hear about it. No, got you guys do,

526
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: which is awesome. So when I had started to hit

527
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: record on my other podcasts, the Steelers snapcounts had not

528
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 3: been published on PFF, so I'll check back. I'll check back.

529
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: I saw that they were right before I left to

530
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 3: come here, so I haven't dug into him. But I

531
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: got two tweets asking about Beanie Bishop. They said he

532
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 3: didn't play a snap like, yeah, I don't remember seeing him,

533
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: but that's the first I heard that. I believe you.

534
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: And the question was, and I'm curious what you think

535
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: about this is do you think the Steelers? I think

536
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: the exact question was, do you think the Steelers wrested

537
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: Beanie Bishop because they might trade him.

538
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: That's certainly just to.

539
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: Keep him healthy, you know what I mean, Like there's

540
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: an enough of him to go off of. It's not

541
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 3: possible a Will Howard situation where I've never seen any

542
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 3: NFL tape of this guy.

543
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: No, maybe it's the opposite actually, where the Steelers are like, hey,

544
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: he had four interceptions last year as an undrafted rookie.

545
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: Someone will want to take a chance on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right,

546
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: not only to protec him from getting injured, but like

547
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: if you think maybe he's getting exposed a little bit

548
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 2: in that department as well too, Yeah, because that's being

549
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: a little cynical in the thought process.

550
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: But so again, not quite what you asked. I know

551
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: you love these I.

552
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: Do love it when this happens. But here comes the

553
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: good stuff.

554
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: But PURSUEDA and I were chatting about this last night

555
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: and kind of came the conclusion and we said the

556
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: exact same thing that you and I have been talking

557
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 3: about last week that I thought, I think you thought,

558
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: I know, he thought that there were two roster spots

559
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: for Pierre Trice.

560
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: Bishop, and I might take Pierre out of that equation now,

561
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: the way he's played and his special team's value, like

562
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: I might. I think he might say it's two yes,

563
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: Trice and Beanie for one two dogs, one bone.

564
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: And Mike threw this out there, and I tend to agree.

565
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 3: Trice hasn't played forever either. I think they're both gone.

566
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: Instead of keeping six, just stink, you keep five because

567
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: because I can't count on either, I've got a really

568
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: diverse group of corner If that were.

569
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: The case, I bet you they'd try and at least

570
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: keep one on the practice squad.

571
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but in some of the corners they've signed what's

572
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: his face that play at wu is darn Porter? Yeah,

573
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: I mean he's shown well I want him on the

574
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: practice squad. They'll be two or three corners on the

575
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: practice squad, maybe one of those two. So if neither's

576
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: going to make the team and you're only keeping five,

577
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: which is fine, that's not unusual. You know, that's unusual.

578
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: Quecially when that's the five that they would be keeping,

579
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: right all proven?

580
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

581
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 2: If Pierre's your fifth, that's a that's pretty good.

582
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: You gotta break a lot of glass to get to

583
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: him to be a defensive player, especially with all the

584
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: versatility that Echoes and Ramsey provide. You'd hate to lose

585
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: Trice just because he's six two, six to three.

586
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: He's still in a lab. He's never in the field,

587
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: and that's the biggest thing to me.

588
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 3: And wait forever.

589
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: And when you and I did our I think our

590
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: first kind of fifty three man thoughts and predictions last week,

591
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: I told you the asked like the fifty third spot

592
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: to me was Trice er Beanie. And the only reason

593
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: I said Beanie was because the health thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

594
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't care how much they love you if you

595
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: can't stay on the field for three years in a row,

596
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: you know.

597
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: See, only wait so long, right, And that's why you

598
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: fell in the draft. And we all like that last night.

599
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: And again, it could be for a litany of different reasons.

600
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: It could be for trade reasons, it could be for

601
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 2: a lot of different stuff. But that was surprising to

602
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: me that after he after he was mentioned by name

603
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 2: by t A, well, you know, two days earlier, like

604
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: when when t A had his his press conference he

605
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: mentioned a few, not not a bunch, just a few

606
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: of the guys who it was going to be a

607
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: big game for and Beanie was one of them. And

608
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: then we don't see him, you know, for a little

609
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: over forty eight hours later, we don't see him play

610
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: a snap.

611
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, I didn't realize I misunderstood you earlier. I

612
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: guess I didn't realize his name was actually brought up.

613
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: I just thought it was.

614
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: That he was one of the ones who was directly

615
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: named by t A.

616
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: So I wonder. I mean, this is a half full

617
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 3: way of looking at it, and I'll be proven wrong

618
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: and laughed at in a couple of days when they

619
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: cut him. But did a GM call with Omar and

620
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: be like, hey, I'll give you a pick for we

621
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: just lost a slot. Certainly give me a pick for him,

622
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: keep him out of action, send him our way on Monday. Okay,

623
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: you got a deal. We're gonna come anyways. Yeah, I

624
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: got enough film against NFL players in regular season on

625
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: that guy. I don't need you to play him against.

626
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: Carol, right, he played. He brought hundreds of snaps last year.

627
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: He's good enough for us. I'll give you a seventh

628
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: or whatever, a pick swap. You're probably gonna cut him.

629
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: We need a nickel and it'll be that's really weird.

630
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: He played zero zero, you know, zero.

631
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: Weird.

632
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be one thing if he played three or

633
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: four or five snaps. Yeah, but zero is that stands.

634
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: Out any injury stuff, and he didn't that obviously didn't

635
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: get injured in the game, you.

636
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Know, And because I think if it was injury stuff,

637
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: I think they would have just came out and said it, like, yeah,

638
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: quite some Beanie had a hip and so we kept

639
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: them all. He kept him out to play a lot.

640
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: We know what he is. Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting

641
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: term event.

642
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued when we get to Tuesday afternoon when

643
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 2: the fifty three initial fifty three comes out, what they

644
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: do with that cornerback group. Yeah, that's maybe where I'm

645
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: most intrigued at this point.

646
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: But Trice would be too frustrating for me to wait

647
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: around much longer, think so test My doctors were like, oh,

648
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: it'll be fine, you know. Yeah, I don't know.

649
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: But this is the third time in third year, right,

650
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: Like this is a and over and over interesting stuff,

651
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Speaker 2: interesting stuff. We gotta get to another break, continue the conversation,

652
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Speaker 2: wrap up the first hour of the show. On the

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Speaker 2: other side, when we return, well Shooler, Matt Williamson is

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the first hour of the Drive

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Speaker 2: I have on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

659
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Speaker 2: and Matt, the Steelers have announced that they have cut

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Speaker 2: eleven players today.

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Speaker 3: I guess you might as well. I mean, there's no

662
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Speaker 3: reason to hang around.

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Speaker 2: You know, we saw them release a few earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week. Correct, Rock Taylor being one.

665
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Speaker 3: Of those guys that surprised me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Surprising to us, thought that he would at least hang

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Speaker 2: around for another preseason game. Yeah, you know, potentially maybe

668
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Speaker 2: even be a practice squad guy. Not to say that.

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Speaker 3: That's still impossible, right, Yeah, but the Steelers have.

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Speaker 2: Cut eleven players. Here running back Evan.

671
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Speaker 3: Hall doesn't shocked me, because I really think, sermon, and.

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Speaker 2: Are we drawing a blank right now? Yeah, he had

673
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Speaker 2: the big run on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: He's look good. That's It's a shame I'm missing his name.

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Speaker 3: But I think the two of them, Nickels, Blue Nickels.

676
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Speaker 3: I think the two of them are really battling to

677
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Speaker 3: be the fourth running back, which is probably a practice

678
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Speaker 3: squad guy, but they're both a head of hall.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's spot on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Outside line backer Kenny Wilkes okay, Corners Kyler McMichael, cam

682
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Speaker 2: Alexander and Mikey Victor.

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Speaker 3: Okay again, that's okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense. Uh, Safety Quindel Johnson fine, quarterback Logan

685
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Speaker 2: would side obviously.

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Speaker 3: It goes to camp arm thanks for Yeah, you give

687
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Speaker 3: him a favor, though, you give him some tape.

688
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: Tight end Kevin Folsch okay. Offensive tackle Julian Pearl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of the guys they just signed, and

690
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he even played last night. That

691
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Speaker 3: have the look.

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00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: Guard Doug Nester eh. And I think the most significant

693
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Speaker 2: one here the long snapper Jake McQuaid.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: That's why. That's yeah, Yeah, that seems like very good

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Speaker 2: news for their synopsis on Christian Kids.

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Speaker 3: I assume, right, well, we got seventeen days until opening day,

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Speaker 3: sixteen sixteen, okay, over two weeks. Good. They must feel

699
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Speaker 3: like he's just need to borrow you for a game,

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Speaker 3: you know, backup long staffer guy. Thanks, you know, and okay, cool,

701
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: that's good news.

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00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: That's the most significant piece of information there to me

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Speaker 2: is you.

704
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: Know so real quick. It used to be there were

705
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Speaker 3: different stages.

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Speaker 2: Of cutting, yeah, which I kind of miss.

707
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: I kind of miss. But I also look at like

708
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: Carolina last night. They need everyone they could with the

709
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: way they decided to play things to keep there. It's

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00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: a good point thirty most important guys, healthy your team, right,

711
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: you got to put five right, So there's that. But

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Speaker 3: I was joking before we hit record here. I was

713
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Speaker 3: kind of feel for those like position group position coaches

714
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Speaker 3: this late in the process because like pursued and I

715
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Speaker 3: were joking last night fourth quarter, I'm like, I made it.

716
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: I cracked them up. I'm like, all right, this is

717
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: when the desperate players realize they only have a couple

718
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: more snaps probably left in their bodies the rest of

719
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Speaker 3: their life, and they're going to do something stupid to

720
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Speaker 3: get the attention or try to take someone's head off,

721
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Speaker 3: or try to get the coaches attention one last time.

722
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Speaker 3: And where I'm going with this is like not to

723
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: pick on these three, but you said there's three corners

724
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: that were released. You know, if I'm the cornerback coach,

725
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: I want to steal. It's time for me to start

726
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: talking to Porter and Ramsey and Echols.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not these three guys ready for the Jets in

728
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: two weeks, right.

729
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: Not these three that are doing everything possible to get

730
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Speaker 3: my attention and to get better. And they're probably great

731
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Speaker 3: workers and great human beings. But I got a big

732
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Speaker 3: enough room for I don't need ten corners to coach.

733
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Speaker 3: Give me six or seven right now, and then we'll

734
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Speaker 3: pair it down to five or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 2: That makes a ton of sense. Yeah, yeah, And it's

736
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Speaker 2: not a slight on those guys, No, it was just

737
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Speaker 2: we got stuff to do. Like those guys all got

738
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Speaker 2: invited to training camp for a reason. Yeah, you know

739
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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like they can play some football.

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Speaker 3: We chose to put them on the field at times.

741
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Right, exactly right. But then there becomes a a very fine.

742
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: Line of all right, now you gotta go. You say

743
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: the party too long? I mean, when you're best friends

744
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: at your party at three am, it's like, well, this

745
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: is fun. When the jag they wanted, they weren't sure

746
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: if you're gonnavite him anyways, it's like, why don't.

747
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: You get out of here? Taking up the prime seat

748
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: in the living room right around the campfire.

749
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: You put my bourbon down to get out of here.

750
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Speaker 3: Time for you to go.

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00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: And that's it. Like those guys all were at training

752
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: camp for a reason. They're not Jabbroni's they obviously played

753
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: for it.

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00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 3: Really is a privilege, you know.

755
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: But now you're getting to like the you know, the

756
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 2: one percent of the one percent. Yeah, and it's time

757
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 2: to narrow that road and to start to get ready

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Speaker 2: for September for the Jets.

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00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: Right, that's the goal now is go beat the Jets.

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Speaker 2: That that makes a lot of sense. And again that

761
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: from a position coach standpoint, I think everybody can understand that.

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00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: If you like, if you're a teacher in a classroom,

763
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: right and you've got thirty kids in your class, but

764
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Speaker 2: you know a.

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Speaker 3: Couple of them don't care.

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Speaker 2: You know, a couple of weeks from now, ten of

767
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: them are going to be gone. When you say, can

768
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Speaker 2: I just teach the twenty who are going to be

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Speaker 2: here and who are really trying to learn? And you know,

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00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: as opposed to uh, yeah, some room exactly.

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Speaker 3: Right and day And I'm not going to tell you people, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to coach you, but I don't want

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Speaker 3: to coach you anymore.

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Speaker 2: So that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Eleven the long snappers actually the biggest deal.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, that'll probably be.

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Speaker 3: That actually has ramifications for like now is I.

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Speaker 2: Was gonna say, unless the Steelers sign a wide receiver

779
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: or make a trade between now and Tuesday, or we

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00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: get a significant update on Derek Harmon, which you and

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00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: I both don't think is in the car. Yeah, week

782
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: on a list, though, you know that probably feels like

783
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: the most significant news that we're gonna get here in

784
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: the next four days probably is the fact that it

785
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: sounds like, if you're again reading the tea leaves, it

786
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: sounds like Christian Koons will be ready to go week one,

787
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: which is which is fantastic news.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they could make a punter move,

789
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: which would be equal. Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean,

790
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: I know you have a buddy asking about Ben Soles.

791
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: Maybe somebody is interested, but there you're not gonna pick

792
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: for him, Matt.

793
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: Matt and I were laughing about that. I did. I

794
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: had a buddy who was hypothesizing about the uh, the

795
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: Steelers getting a Day three pick for Ben Saul's and

796
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, everybody in the world knows they're gonna

797
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: cut him that's you know, he's not that special, and

798
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: he's not that special, right, you know he I hope sure.

799
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: And he did go four for four in this preseason game,

800
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: but he also missed one, you know, against against Tampa Bay.

801
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: Now that could have been because of snappy issues. We

802
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: don't know the inner working mechanisms that right. I'd have

803
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: to go out to go talk to Danny Smith, and

804
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: he's got more important things to do.

805
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: Holder took the ball to forever to get.

806
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: Back exactly right, and that messes up his rhythm and

807
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: all that stuff. It could totally get I mean, it's

808
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: like a golf swing, you know, like one little thing

809
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: wrong with the mechanics and it all, it all gets

810
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: thrown out. But I think that was the onus for

811
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: them all the time, is like, hey, here's this guy

812
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: Ben Saals that played right next door for four years.

813
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: He was a very good college kicker. Yeah, let's give

814
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: him the opportunity come out here, see what he's got.

815
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: We'll keep him on speed dial if we ever need

816
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: in the future.

817
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's your first goal.

818
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: And he and he'll also get to put you know,

819
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: three games of preseason tape out there for the other

820
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 2: thirty one teams across the league.

821
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's probably five teams that. Well, everyone

822
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: watched them as a pit player.

823
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: As a he was one of the best kickers in

824
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: college football.

825
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: Acts. Yeah, I ma, everyone knew who he was. Everyone

826
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: watched them. And if there's someone going, man, the kicker

827
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: we're counting on is junk, I'm at least going to

828
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: bring him in for these two weeks, or bring him

829
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: in for a tryout and give it a shot. You know.

830
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: So the Steelers have actually done a lot of those

831
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: kind of favors to kickers, especially during the Boswell Euro

832
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: where it's like, come join us. We know that you

833
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: won't beat out boss, there's no chance. But I've I

834
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: ask your other agent buddies. I got a long history

835
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: of guys that have come in here that end up

836
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: getting a shot in the league because they're going to

837
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: swing their leg quite a bit. And you can add

838
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 3: that to their already scouring report from their college or whatever,

839
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: you know, Mastually Wright or whatever.

840
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: You know, that's a great that's a great example. And

841
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: you know, again that relationship that they have with him

842
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: next door and see, I'm sure that to helps. I'm

843
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: sure they've seen him work for the last few years,

844
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: and they know like the type, they know the type

845
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: of character in person that they were bringing in as

846
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: well to.

847
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: We'll be honest with you and you know right right.

848
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: They probably when they first brought him in, they probably

849
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: said that like, hey, unless something happens the boss.

850
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: But and if this guy has any clue he worked.

851
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: He went to college next door to bos Well during

852
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: his best season ever, he knows he's not being that

853
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: guy out.

854
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: They probably had a relationship somewhat of at least a

855
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: specialist specialist because they have so much downtime to be.

856
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: The indoor kind of just watching each other and asking.

857
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: And asking questions and and how all that works. Yeah. Absolutely,

858
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: and so h not in all that to say not

859
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: the Ben Saws didn't deserve it. I mean he absolutely

860
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: earned it. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

861
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: He give it to anybody. You'll give it the next

862
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: pick kicker. It stinks, you know, if the next.

863
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: Pick kicker is a disaster, the Steelers aren't just going

864
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: to invite him too. And Ben Saws, I'm sure like

865
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: he probably had some other options. I'm sure it wasn't

866
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: just the Steelers who Yeah, because because again he was

867
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: a very good collegiate kicker.

868
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Speaker 3: And if it was a team that had a bad

869
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Speaker 3: kicker last year, he would have taken that that spot

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Speaker 3: absolutely not not the one I know I'm getting cut spot.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But yeah, there's kind of some some news of

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Speaker 2: the day, if you.

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Speaker 3: Will, not that it affects our conversation, but I wonder if,

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Speaker 3: like the Panthers Giants, everyone that played last night will

875
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: start getting rid of ten guys, you know, might as well.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question. Yeah, might as well tell you

877
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: what the giants to feed him anymore.

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00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: You don't have to you know, you don't have to

879
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: tape their ankles anymore, massages, right anything that, you know,

880
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: all that stuff. Yeah, getting their their maintenance.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, absolutely. Hey, the only thing they're doing in

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00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: New York right now I think is getting Jackson Dark's

883
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: gold jacket ready.

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Speaker 3: They're pretty psyched about him for.

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Speaker 2: When he like forty seven pass attempts in a preseason game. Though,

886
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: that is crazy, is that he.

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Speaker 3: Threw it was. I didn't see any of that game obviously,

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Speaker 3: we were tied up with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't either. I just saw this morning, like

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Speaker 2: some highlights, and I know he left.

891
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: Briefly with concussion issues, but people have been super impressed

892
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: with him. I didn't love him coming out of all

893
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Speaker 3: miss but I think he's in a really good situation.

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Speaker 3: Say what you want about Russ. He's a perfect guy

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Speaker 3: to hold the fourth down and be respectable.

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Speaker 2: And you know, forty seven passing attempts thirty two of

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Speaker 2: forty seven, three hundred and seventy two yards, three touchdowns,

898
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Speaker 2: no turnovers.

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Speaker 3: Wow. No, I know there's been a lot of buzz.

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Speaker 3: I definitely will go watch at least his raps.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting, Jackson. I'm sure it's happened, but a quarterback

902
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: throwing forty seven times in a preseason game. That is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah again fun.

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Speaker 2: I should watch some of it too. I'm sure going

905
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Speaker 2: to quick hitters and get it out of not having

906
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Speaker 2: them stand back there for three four seconds and try

907
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Speaker 2: and pick people and.

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Speaker 3: Had to go for concussion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, protocol exactly, That's what I mean. Like, I understand,

910
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Speaker 2: he's not your day one starter. You've got some time

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Speaker 2: to bring him along, but that seems like a lot

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Speaker 2: of exposure putting that guy out there for forty seven different.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a fan, but I can always change my

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Speaker 3: opinion and guys are allowed to get better. That is

915
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: a drive theme. Guys are allowed to get better. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they should have picked Dart and said

917
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Speaker 3: Harmon or any of those things either.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I thought Baker Mayfield was a jabbroni

919
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Speaker 2: for years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, And now.

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Speaker 2: I think he might be a top ten clock in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Yep.

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Speaker 2: He's probably in that eight to twelve range, which is

925
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: pretty stinking good, especially for a guy that's had a

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Speaker 2: million offensive coordinators in his career like he has Matt Hour.

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Speaker 2: The books will reset on the other side, maybe get

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Speaker 2: into some more league stuff and uh some of these

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess kind of the back end of

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Speaker 2: list season and all that different as we have some

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Speaker 2: more kind of big picture time as well too. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into some of that.

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Speaker 3: There's college games this weekend too, right.

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Speaker 2: How about tomorrow tomorrow in Dublin, Ireland. Knew that Kansas

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Speaker 2: State and Iowa State. Fun to kind of if you

936
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Speaker 2: if you're trying to to wet your Irish football palette,

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Speaker 2: it's the week zero in college football. There's like a

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Speaker 2: couple you know a lot of the games are they're

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Speaker 2: not sc school plays. You know FCS program, but there

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Speaker 2: are a couple intriguing ones, including that that game in

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Speaker 2: London or in Dublin. Part of me.

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Speaker 3: Labor Day weekends good though right.

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Speaker 2: Labored weekends, great Ohio State, Texas, Texas. I think there's

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Speaker 2: like like Florida plays like somebody good, yeah Utah or

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Speaker 2: someone like that. We're getting there. We're getting to some real, meaningful,

946
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Speaker 2: tangible football, which is which is always good our number

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Speaker 2: two when we return on the other side. Why you larn,

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.