1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: My husband did shrooms once, and I don't know if 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: our marriage will survive. This comes from shrooms kill marriages, 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: who says I thought we had the best marriage. I 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: thought we were the lucky ones. It wasn't perfect, but 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: it was really really great. I never worried about other 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: women because I thought we were strong enough that other 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: people don't matter. He's very cute and cute women have 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: flirted with him right in front of me before, and 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: it didn't bother me because I knew that his heart. 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: That's the best kind of relationship. 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: And confident in your marriage. 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: King and Queen, we love to see it. 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: He did drooms three months ago. He loved it. He 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: said it changed his life. He said he understands now 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: that everything in the universe is exactly how it's supposed 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: to be. Classic shrooms, classic shrooms trip. We love that 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: everything is going to be okay and nothing matters. He said. 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: Again, Babe, Babe, everything in the universe is how it's 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: supposed to be. Everything's going to be okay, and nothing matters. 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Nothing matters, and everything matters. I mean, I do, I 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: I see, I see I'm picking up. I am picking 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: I see the vision, I see the vision. Yeah, exactly right. 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: He said he could see me in a way that 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: he has never seen me before. That is the question. 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: He cried with me on the couch and shot love 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: beams into my parts, love beams. I just shure to 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: wear protection when you're shooting love beams. Yeah, guys, watch out. 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: I thought we were growing closer. He has been talking 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: about how much more he loves me, and he interacts 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: with me on a daily basis. His friends is difficult 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: co workers. It all sounded platonic to me, and I 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: assumed his love for me was special and unique. He 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: has a crush on someone else. Now his love beams 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: were shooting a little too hard. Yeah, exactly Okay, it happens. 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: I would be lying if I never said I had crushes. 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: But he is intentionally seeking out opportunities to interact with 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: this person. I told him that felt a little disrespectful 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: towards me and towards our marriage. I asked him if 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: it was a good idea to put himself in a 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: position of continuing to develop feelings for someone else, and 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: he agreed that it wasn't. No craft pray, But but 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I noticed that he wasn't reassuring me in this conversation, 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't telling me that his crush didn't matter, because 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: his love for me dwarfs how he feels about that 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: other person. I thought it was weird that he didn't 46 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: say anything like that, and I asked him about it. 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: The next day. He said to me, I'm not gonna 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: lie to you and tell you that you're irreplaceable and 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: that you have nothing to worry about. 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: And there lies our questioned. 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. You're replaceable. That's it. 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: And around the door. 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I got to pull my love beescuse guys, the 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: man I'm married would have never said this to me. 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: We have been talking about this over the past few days. 56 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: He tells me that he's not attached to me because 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: he's not attached to anything anymore. Floating into serial world, 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: I've just I have no attachment. Nothing matters, but everything matters. 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: That's the same man, don't matter to me. But don't worry. 60 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Don't No one matters to me. 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: Nothing matters, and no one will ever matter to me again. 62 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Don't you feel better? 63 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: Baby? 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: He chooses to be with me, but he's not dependent 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,559 Speaker 1: on me for his happiness. 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay, Yeah, that's fine, that's okay. 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't think you should be dependent on your partner 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: for your objectly. 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: You should be independently happy, and you and your partner 71 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: should bring your happinesses together. 72 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: Let your happiness mingle. 73 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you are like two bodies of with the rising 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: tide come together in a blissful union of waters. 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: But I also wonder again, is that like after all 76 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: of this, Even though that's true, is that also with 77 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: everything else? I am just specifically focused on this one 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: specific It seems to me that he doesn't value our 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: marriage anymore because his love for everyone in the world 80 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: has grown so much that his love for me is 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: no longer unique or special to him. Babe, I'm married 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: to the universe. 83 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: I love everyone so much. 84 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: I love the trees. I love trees. 85 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: It would be selfish of. 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Me to love just you. 87 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: I have so much loved again, and. 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: I need to shoot my love beams at trees. 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: They're so strong. Don't do that to the trees. Yeah, 90 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: come on, I asked him, do you not want to 91 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: be with me anymore? So he can go out and 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: love the world, And he took several seconds to answer me. 93 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: My heart completely shattered, waiting for him to answer, because 94 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: I would have never expected this to be a difficult 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: question for him. 96 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: He's going guru mode, you know. 97 00:04:54,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: He's gone full guru into the universe, takes shrooms one time. 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, comes on to the universe. Gotta love it. Eventually, 99 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: he answered, I don't think. 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: What do you mean, I don't think so, I don't. 101 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: I don't as in, I don't want to leave you 102 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: for the universe. Yes, yeah, okay, but she's hearing the pause. 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's hearing. She's hearing, he's hearing, break the pause. 104 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: I was devastated during this conversation, and he showed zero emotion. 105 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: The man I married would not have been able to 106 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: see me in that much pain without having an emotional 107 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: response on troms. It's like it's like he grew so 108 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: much emotional awareness and then has a complete emotional blind 109 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: spot for his own wife. Yeah, he's going to start 110 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: seeing a therapist. But I'm just completely lost and I 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. I can't believe my marriage 112 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: is falling apart because of a two gram troom trip. Man, 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: that's not even that much, right, Yeah, get your numbers up, bro. 114 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: I needed. 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I can't seem to connect with him or to get 116 00:05:54,680 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: through to him. I don't understand who actually though she 117 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: comes out of it, She's like they I'm married to myself, Sophia. 118 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: This episode is coming to with what and the first 119 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: second seems like the wrong path, But then do you 120 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: think about it, and you're like, wait a minute, it 121 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: is the right path. I can't seem to connect with 122 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: him or to get through Tim. I don't understand why 123 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to care. I guess I'm fishing for 124 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: advice or wondering if anyone has had similar experiences. This is. 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: We've read a lot of stories. This is a pretty 126 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: unique experience. 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: I've had a similar experience of this. 128 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh there you go, ah yeah, yea yea ye. I'm 129 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: hoping someone will tell me that the effects will fade 130 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: over time and I will eventually get my husband back. 131 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: I've read so many accounts of Stream's experiences, and I 132 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: have never heard of something like this happening to someone else. 133 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: I've seen accounts of other people falling deeper into love 134 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: and devotion to their spouses, and the opposite is happening 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: to me. I'm just extremely sad. I don't know what 136 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: to do, we have relevant comments, we have an update. Well, 137 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: let's take a pause right here, okay, and break it down. 138 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: Then in terms of what like, oh, he should do 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: if she like, if she if she actually wants to 140 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: understand what her husband is going through, she can. But 141 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: I think like a lot of these effects do wear 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: off with time too. 143 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: He's just been cursed momentarily with knowledge. 144 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the shroom of knowledge. Yeah, I feel like I 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: don't know if I would suggest this, but I feel 146 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: like if I was in a peace position, I would 147 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: take shrooms, if anything to maybe like if okay, yeah, 148 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: already drugs, get ready? If it really is this like 149 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: fake ego death meaning like he's using uh, this like 150 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: alleged but probably not true ego death as a means 151 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: of like, oh I am superior, I am the enlightened one. 152 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Then then yeah, she takes a room. She's like, well, 153 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: now what I'm on your table, So you're not the 154 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: only one enlightened here. 155 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so I think I think what he 156 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: is kind of he's probably like a little bit dissociated 157 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: right now from like his emotions. 158 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: How recently after this the shrooms experience, did they have 159 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: this conversation. 160 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: I think it was very recent. I think it was 161 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: maybe not the day, but I think it's like maybe 162 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: a couple weeks in. Yeah, those those those kinds of 163 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: feelings of like disassociation from like emotions and reality can 164 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: persist for like weeks slash months slash of lifetime. So 165 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: like he, I don't know, it's the crapshoot of whether 166 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: you want to stay with this guy in this state, 167 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: especially if it seems like there's like he doesn't understand 168 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: you and you don't understand him anymore. 169 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: I mean there has been I would say there has 170 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: been good open and honest communication so far, but you 171 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: can he has. 172 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: Good open, honest communication. That's true. 173 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm specifically meaning that OPI is like OPI 174 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: could sit down and have the come to Jesus moment. 175 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: She's already communicated a lot of this already, but it 176 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: could be like, hey, we're just like not neshing anymore, 177 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: and I feel like I don't feel loved anymore. 178 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: Connection with the universe, Yeah, I don't I connect with humans, 179 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: and like if if we can't, like I don't know, 180 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: find some sort of like like semblance of of of 181 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: what we had or like kind of align on our love. 182 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: Then I don't know if I can continue in this. 183 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all it's all like what do you 184 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: what do you want out of a relationship? Like he's 185 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: I think he's being extraordinarily blunt and not really thinking 186 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: of Opie's feelings. 187 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: He is. 188 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: I think he is being honest. 189 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: A lot. 190 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: I think he's, like we've talked about, he's lost this 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: kind of ability, hopefully temporarily to communicate in a way 192 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: that's like kind. 193 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's And I think he is aware of 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: other people's feelings. I think he is trying to be 195 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 2: honest and like in that way, he's trying to be kind, 196 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: But I don't think he's tuned into what op is 197 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: really feeling. And this could be like a you know, 198 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: like a somewhat permanent change or at least on this 199 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: like closer on the spectrum to this than whatever he 200 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: was before. And so it's like up to op do 201 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: you want to he is telling you the truth? Do 202 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: you want to live in this new truth with him? 203 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: Or do you want to. 204 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: Not red shroom or blue shroom? Choose your path wisely. Well, guys, 205 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: we have more to the story specifically. Some relevant comments 206 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: say God Wibbly Wobbly says he may have experienced an 207 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: ego death. Some people will take very large doses to 208 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: intentionally achieve this. When a person has an ego death, 209 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: they are no longer attached to their identity. They learn 210 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: their identity is illusion created by our ego. It's a 211 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: hard concept to try to explain, so I want to 212 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: try to has he stop showing interest in things he 213 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: used to enjoy music, sports, hobbies, et cetera. Look up 214 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: on Google Dark Knight of the Soul. It might help 215 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: you understand what he is experiencing, which Loki The comment 216 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: is a little bit giving the vibes of like I 217 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: know about the ego death is not quite the same. 218 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: But I mean it is. That's the thing. Like I've 219 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: experienced ego death on second elic before, Yes, terrifying. 220 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: Who is Sam? 221 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: I don't even know what I don't know. 222 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: Opie says he has not lost interest in things and 223 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: says he is generally happier since his trip. His sport 224 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: of interest changed, which was very surprising to everyone that 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: knows him. But he's still very interested in sport. 226 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 3: Sport. 227 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: We have talked about ego death, and he's not sure 228 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: if he would classify it as ego death. It's a 229 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: little bit too high if alloted to concept. For you understand, 230 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: it's beyond the ego. It is ego reverse amen resurrection, 231 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: ego resurrection. Let's go. He thinks it's a possibility. I've 232 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: had a few dark Knight of the Souls and it 233 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: doesn't look like that to me. 234 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: Do I think it looks also different for different people, right. 235 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: So Opi is essentially saying that she herself has experienced 236 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: ego death yeah, and is like, I don't. 237 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: Ego death looks different for every like everyone, right, But 238 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it's like it's I don't know it's 239 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: and I think the effects are different for everyone. 240 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: Throwaway vc Goop says, I don't think this was solely 241 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: the shrooms. I think your husband just wants to go 242 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: outside of your marriage and the shrooms just opened him 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: up to it. Dare I say blossom? Shrooms don't blossom? 244 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: But fu Opie says it's just weird because I have 245 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: some poly family members and he was always extremely opposed 246 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: to it, more so than I was. I know that 247 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: doesn't rule out this is exactly what's happening. It's just 248 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: hard to swallow. And then OPI added to that comment, 249 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't believe in soulmates, but that doesn't mean he 250 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: is replaceable to me. We've grown together and grown something 251 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: that I will never have with someone else. He had 252 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: a near death experience a few years ago that made 253 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: me face his mortality. I had to think about how 254 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: I would react if he passed away. I knew it 255 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: would take years to make myself hole again, and that 256 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: I would find it like a large important piece of 257 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: my mind self died. He doesn't seem to feel this 258 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: way about me right now we have an update. I 259 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: don't know if we've asked this explicitly yet. Is the 260 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: husband the a hole? I'd be very curious to start 261 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: a pull. 262 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: I mean, he'd said he doesn't care about like he's Yeah, 263 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: he's definitely not communicating in a way that is empathetic. 264 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: But wasn't the streams? 265 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 3: Well, But that's the thing, even it doesn't really matter 266 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: if it's the streams, because you can say that like, 267 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: like there are certain people who. 268 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: Like struggle with like mental illness, like. 269 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: Well, just how they with empathy and how they you know, 270 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: say things to certain people. But I don't think that 271 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: that necessarily, you know, like it's if it hurts someone 272 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: that's still. 273 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, you can. 274 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: You can understand why they're saying it with while still 275 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: being hurt by. 276 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: You can't write off the fact that someone went through 277 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: pain hearing what he's hearing what the husband said. 278 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think I think Opie's husband is the ahole, 279 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: But I think it is also good to know this 280 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: information and with this information, like now is this something 281 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: that you want to stay in or do you want 282 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: to leave? 283 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 284 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Because now you know this, it's like like he is 285 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: changing the context and contract of your relationship by like 286 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: flirting with these people. 287 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: Was he flirting? 288 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: Did he say he was flirting or she said he 289 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: was like intentionally like placing himself in scenarios where there 290 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: would be interaction with this crush and not being like okay, 291 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: let me let me fall back. 292 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: So he was and he was saying like I'm going 293 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: to do this. He was like I am going to 294 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: do this thing. Yeah, that's and like that that's an 295 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: a whole move because in a relationship, when you establish 296 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: like this is how we're going to operate in a relationship, 297 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: and then you say, hey, I want to change how 298 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: we've established it, and if you want to change then 299 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: it is like on either party if they want to 300 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: opt out of it. And I think now, like it 301 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: seems like they've come to this thing. So yeah, he's 302 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: the a hole for like changing it without like full 303 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: consent of his partner. Yeah, but I would love to 304 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: know what you think. Do you think, Oh, he's the 305 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: a hole answers in the comments below chat. 306 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: So let's get into this update. I showed the original 307 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: threat to him last night. Y'all completely broke his brain 308 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: again best way? Yeah right, how many times I love beames. 309 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: You guys were able to reach him from a place 310 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: of understanding I didn't have access to. I'm incredibly grateful. 311 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: He read every comment at the time, and then as 312 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: soon as we made eye contact, tears just started streaming 313 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: down his face. This was the first time he cried 314 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: since his trip. As soon as I saw him crying, 315 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: I knew we would be okay. We just had a 316 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: big sudden moment of oh there you are, welcome, homew 317 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: and we hugged cried together. I really think the issue 318 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: is Slash was integration. I mentioned his optimism in the comments, 319 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: and it leads to him doing things like trying substances 320 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: without doing any preparation or research first. So he wasn't 321 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: familiar with the concept of integration and wasn't prepared for 322 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: how big of a deal this turned out to be. 323 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: We might get a definition of it, but do you 324 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: know what Opie means when? 325 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: So integration is this idea of when you go on 326 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: this like big journey, which is like when you have 327 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: like a big trip, you are literally taken away from 328 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: reality and are exploring these things that are above comprehension 329 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: for like your brain as it is right now. And 330 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: so what people talk about with integration is you come 331 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: back and you have all these experiences and you're like, 332 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: what what does that even mean? And so you can 333 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: take a lot of interpretations of what it means. And 334 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: so integrating in the right way of like going out 335 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: and like essentially traveling, like being like a psychoonaut traveling 336 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: in this weird, this weird area and then coming back 337 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of ways that you could look 338 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: at it, and it's important to look at it in 339 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: ways that benefit your experience on Earth as a human. 340 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: Damn did a whole series I did. 341 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: I talked to like JOHNS. Hopkins professors and people who 342 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: are like the first to synthesize LSD in like the 343 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: sixties and seventies, and so I would did a huge 344 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: deep dive and have also done a lot of psychedelics myself. 345 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 3: And John, I think a psychonaut, would you know, contextually 346 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: an astronaut. But like in your own. 347 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: Line, thank you for the breakdown. I appreciate it, you said, 348 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: that's what he asked. What it was, right? No, I said, 349 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: I love that term cyclic. Oh, they said, what's a psychot? 350 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I appreciate the explanation. Nonetheless, thank you, 351 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: Sophia winning Psychonauts discords. I don't know what emore. Okay, 352 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: he was, as many of you said, lost in the sauce. 353 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 4: WHOA. 354 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: I loved this. It really seems like he suddenly snapped 355 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: out of something last night. Over the past three months, 356 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: he has talked about being able to access something that 357 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: never went away after his trip. Last night was the 358 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: first time he said he couldn't access it. He laughed 359 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: and said that he felt like he had just come 360 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: down from a three month trip. We covered all the 361 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: concerns I expressed in my post that I could think of. 362 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Does he want to be Polly No? Does he feel 363 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: attached to me now yes? Would he be upset if 364 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: I passed away or left him? Yes? Does he see 365 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: me as replaceable no? Is he confident that he wants 366 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: to be with me? Yes? 367 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 3: But but is he now able to lie? 368 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: That? 369 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: Is he just not telling the truth anymore? The truth 370 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: serum has gone away? 371 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: Right? Does he understand and value the concept of family? Yes. 372 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: I didn't write about this one in the post, but 373 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: it was another thing we weren't able to see eye 374 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: to eye on. He also shared that his crush feels 375 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: like nothing to him now, and he apologized a thousand 376 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: times for it. The shrooms definitely revealed some underlying issues 377 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: in our marriage, but I don't think it's quite what 378 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot of comments suggested that he had always wanted 379 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: an open marriage. We discussed last night that he had 380 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: some unmet needs that he hasn't been communicating to me 381 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: because I'm autistic and he usually treats me like I'm 382 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: very delicate. Despite how he came across in the post, 383 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: we are going to continue working through this piece. I'm 384 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: just very thankful to have something we can work for 385 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: those saying that I just need to do shrooms John's 386 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: advice and then I will understand and everything will be fixed. 387 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: Not what I said. I have done more shrooms than 388 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: he has. Mike freaking drop. 389 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: Honestly, that is great contact. 390 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: That is very good. That's really important and great context. 391 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: That was the problem for those communicating the dosage two grams. 392 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: It was a lemon tech, which I guess I don't 393 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: know what that is, type of something I experienced for 394 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: myself a few weeks ago. What a massive impact this 395 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: has on intensity? Okay, I guess increases the intensity. 396 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: Oh, a lemon dech. I think that's like maybe introducing 397 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: like a like acidic properties, like where you drink like 398 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: orange juice in it, Like the properties can magnify the effects. 399 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: Like a different form that like enhances. 400 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but I'm not sure. I just 401 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: know that like acidic things like lemons and. 402 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 3: Lemon tech is a popular method for those looking to 403 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 3: maximize the potential of their magic mushroom experience. Lemon tech 404 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 3: is a It's based on the premise that by mixing 405 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: magic mushrooms or truffles with lemon juice, a faster conversion 406 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: of silas silaban yep, psilosybin, pilocybon. There we go. Psilocybin 407 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: and silicen can be promoted due to the properties of 408 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: citr acid, which allows enhancing the effects of magic mushrooms. 409 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: Are we sure it's not someone who works on lemons? 410 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: Just throwing that out there? 411 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: Look that up. 412 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: Thank you for those thinking it's a manic episode. He 413 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: does not have a history of depression at all. He 414 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: still mentions this to his therapist, but I think it's unlikely. 415 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: We have some new fun things to work on. But 416 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: I really feel like I have my husband and my 417 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: best friend back. And he looks at me with googly 418 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: eyes again. Oh then we're love beams. So thank you, 419 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Thank you to everyone that took 420 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: the time out of the day to write out thoughtful comments. 421 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: And there are a few comments to close us out. 422 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: Firecracker Jinks says, I'm really glad it worked out. I 423 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: was hoping to get an update on this post. I 424 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: have a follow up. Is there any way you can 425 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: find out if he asked his new crush out and 426 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: if she rejected him. I'm asking because I tend to 427 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: hide intrusive thoughts like these, and I don't know. I 428 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: guess I thought right it would be a good place 429 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: to share them. Opie says, I'm one hundred percent sure 430 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: nothing happened. He thinks she's interested in him, and he 431 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: has been keeping me posted on anything borderline inappropriate. She says, 432 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: or does before and after I knew about his crush. 433 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: Most of it is not even inappropriate in my opinion, 434 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: but he has been really airing on the side of 435 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: caution the whole time. Definitely, nothing blatantly inappropriate has happened 436 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: on either of their parts. Jellia Jerrold says, right on, 437 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: and even if he has not had a full on 438 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: psychotic break, it could be just some lingering effects in 439 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: a temporary state of induced psychosis detachment f him self, teta, 440 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: et cetera. People are too fast to pass judgment. Opie said, Hey, 441 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: I see it. Thank you for this. We are in 442 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: a much better place, but we know we are not 443 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: out of the woods yet. We are both pretty confused 444 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: about what the f happened. He has an appointment with 445 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: a psycho just later this week, fingers crossed. 446 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: And also this disclaimer. Yes, we do not endorse the 447 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: use of illegal substances. This episode is purely for educational purposes. 448 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: We do not endorse, no exactly, not today. But should 449 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: we hear from some of our community about what they 450 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: think of the story? 451 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a will right here. 452 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: Everyone's all right, so we're gonna spend the wheel. Here 453 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: we go. 454 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: That wheel and it is sleepless all right. 455 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 3: Now, we're gonna get sleepless nights. 456 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: Opinions on the matter? Here we goes, Hello, sleeps. 457 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: Can you. 458 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: Hear us? 459 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can hear you, guys. 460 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: Nice to see your face. 461 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: So nice to finally see you face to face. So 462 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: what do you think about the story? Do you think 463 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: op was right and sticking with the husband after his 464 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: existential shroom crisis. 465 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 4: Granted I have never done those kinds of things, but 466 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: I can assume that they're not good for you for 467 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 4: a reason, and it'll cloud your judgment. But at the 468 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 4: same time, like we say, you know, when you're drunk, 469 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 4: you know, you do things that you're not supposed to do. 470 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so. 471 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: It's like this cloud is the judgment a bit? 472 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: Alternately? 473 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't like basically like the husband 474 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: did something that clouded his judgment in the relationship and 475 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: wasn't able to show up as the best partner to 476 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: his wife and so like for that, maybe a little 477 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: a hole move, But do you think it was the 478 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: right decision to stay with him past that? 479 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 4: It's all a judgment call. It's all about like how 480 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: you see a person. You may know them as the 481 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: loving person that you think that they are, and then 482 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: they do that and then immediately most people will run. 483 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 4: But I mean, at the end of the day, if 484 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: you're willing to work with them and they're work willing 485 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 4: to work with you as well, like, that's what's the 486 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: most important thing. 487 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, completely agree. Thank you so much for calling 488 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: it sleep. Let's to give you your perspective. 489 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: Thank you? Yeah all right, oh so great, so cool? 490 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: Yeah dude. 491 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: First first, right, okay, story time history, Liz, you. 492 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: Are the first face to face calling of Okay, storytime history. 493 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: Sleepless has been a part of many historical moments. 494 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, but what do you think should you ever 495 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: lie in a relationship? Let us down the comments below, 496 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: but if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 497 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: We love you and see it tomorrow.