WEBVTT - Better Off Jed 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.720 Find Down with Jane Kramer and Michael Coughlin and I 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.920 heard radio podcast. I'm looking at my notes right now 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.959 because I genuinely wrote something down in my notes that 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.720 I wanted to talk about. But it's gone. It's disappeared. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.079 You know, it's funny, it's completely disappeared. And now, But 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.080 it was like one of those things on the other day, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.120 because I kind of know when Jane and I kind 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.640 of know when we do that, because I'll kind of 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.120 see you're just randomly grab your phone, like after we 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:32.320 say something that's kind of interesting or funny or controversial, 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.280 and we'll write it down, and I remember you doing 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.320 that the other day. Yeah, but it's gone. It's gone. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.720 And now I'm really bummed because it was great and 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.120 I want to talk about it because I always want 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.960 to save stuff for the podcast. It was gone. We 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.920 have no idea what it is. No great, Well, that's 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:57.360 our show. Have a great Monday. Whoa, guys. We need 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:04.520 to celebrate though. We're nominated for a People's and the 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.720 only reason that we are is because of our Wine 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:12.399 Down listeners and Amy Sugarman. That is it. Um No, 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.479 We're so excited, it's so cool. I honestly didn't think 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:21.880 because Amy had texted us, hey, there might be maybe possibly, 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:23.720 and you and not put the lid on it quick 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.440 with each other because we're like, we're like, okay, whatever. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.240 We didn't want to get too excited, and honestly I 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:36.240 forgot about it. You did did until you have you heard? 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.280 Have you heard? Have you heard? Have you heard? Honestly, 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.840 I've forgotten until Amy sent it to us. I was 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.400 genuinely surprised. Though it's a great I mean, it's a 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.919 great list of people. And so now we're like, hey, honey, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.200 we have no shot in hell. Yeah, we already popped 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.440 our champagne because like, we won what we needed to win, 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.240 we got nominated. But then again, though I mean not 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.040 saying anything because I love scrubbing Antania and but I 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.040 mean I thought for sure Lady Gang was gonna win 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.680 because they have a bigger following mere on e. Yeah, 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.560 So I mean you never know. I mean, I know 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.560 we don't have Bachelor Nation, So I think it's either 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.640 going to do what I would like to see is 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:22.560 Tania in um, oh my god, Becca to do back 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.760 to back back to back, you know, that would be 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.120 that would be the sweetest one of that. But I 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.240 mean it's like, you guys have your mantle at home. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.800 You got your Heart radio podcast toward People's Choice Award 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.760 right next to it. I mean, look, I would love 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.799 to win. I just think it's but again, I mean, 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:40.799 who knows if you guys vote, though, if you go 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.679 to People's Choice Award and you vote, you can vote 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.880 times up today for wine. I think if they did 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.679 actually call us up there, I'll just be sitting on 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:55.680 the table. Nope, Nope, it's wrong. No, no, we're good. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.399 You like the wine and hanging out and say, way 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.560 too drunk to come on stage right now? Like no, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:02.959 I did not think this is gonna happen. But no, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.440 you can't vote, can but you never know? Who knows? 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.839 But hey, how cool? I mean, who would have thought 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.560 it was funny? Because when I was writing that post, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.880 I never thought it would be how it is now. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.120 I just from everything that we've been through, there's no 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:24.480 chance in hell I would have ever imagined being nominated 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:29.120 talking about stuff that we talked about, even talking you know, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.160 It's just it's really truly crazy, especially from the time 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.360 when I was writing my first book Proposal and you 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:40.480 ripped it up. I'm not I don't want this in 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.000 your book, and but yeah, I mean he ripped it up, 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.280 shredded it out and slammed the door on his way out, 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.080 which I understood, I mean, but at the same time, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:50.680 I was just like, but I want to help people 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.280 and I think it could help people. Then no, I mean, 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.080 well obviously I was like, it takes two years for 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.760 a book to come out, but yeah, but I mean, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.200 get us know it actually sooner than when the book 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:08.160 came we thought about it, yeah, but still we weren't 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.840 talking about it then. Yeah, but again, I mean, look, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.720 it's so crazy. It is crazy, very fortunate, a lot 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:23.880 of hard work, which is why we deserve the award. Please, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.680 so please go bro Um. So do you want to 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.680 do our five minute weekap? Real quick, let's do it. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.159 Let's get that one on the way. Okay, we watched 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:37.760 episode two, episode two of nine seven episodes or whatever 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.679 it is, and uh, what were your thoughts? So what's 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:46.400 the James Lafferty's character's name, Nathan Scott, Sorry Nathan, So 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:51.039 he's an ass Yeah, which you know James, obviously guys 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.560 are buds and you just did didn't you do his podcast? Yeah, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.520 he's gotta he's gotta show that he's doing with Stephen. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:03.880 I was called Stephen Cavalery. Oh my god, Stephen Stephen COLLEENNI. Um, 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:08.160 we need to get James on. Can we get him on? Amy, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:13.360 James Lafferty, keep trying, trying. I really would like to 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:18.760 get chat Michael murrayan too, you did. He has one 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.200 of those holiday movies coming up, different network than yours, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.960 So I am pushing for that. Okay, cool, because I 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.160 would really like I would really because I like to 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:27.800 have his wife and Sarah on and we can talk 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.440 about relationship and Wintry Hill and recap. But because James 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.320 isn't he his character is so mean. He's one of 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:41.240 those characters where it's like, um, god, what was his name? Eastern? 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.400 Did you watch Game of Thrones? No, that's remember we 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.240 already had this conversation where he wasn't into that. He's 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.520 not into like the other fairylands, right, the hard fag guy, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:57.080 more realistic like avenger stuff. Yeah, I get it, um, 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.200 but it's like one of those characters. There's a character 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.520 in Game of Thrones I don't remember. I can't remember. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.279 He's like the king. He's a young King, and it's 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.000 one of those you hate the characters so much where 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.279 I felt like if I saw him that person playing 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.840 that character walking down the street, I would want to 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.800 punch him in the face. Yeah, And that's how James 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.800 Laugherty characters face Nathan Scott, Like, if I saw Nathan 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.920 Scott walking down the street, I would want to drop 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:21.160 kick him in the chest because he's terrible. He's the worst. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:26.120 But Lucas is my man. I really like Lucas and 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:30.159 I really want Lucas and Peyton to be together. But 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.000 I feel like this is what my this is what 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.760 I feel like Joy's character, Hayley is going to somehow. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:41.479 I think she's gonna want to date um, what's his face, Lucas. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.440 I think Hayley is gonna want to date Lucas and 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.440 Lucas is. Um. Don't you know what happens you were 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.280 I don't know anything. That's the thing. I know nothing, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.640 But you know what happened in your season's I know. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.040 All I know is who marries you? That's it. That's 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.159 all I do. So you know the end game. I 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.320 know the n Dish game. I didn't watched last season, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:04.520 so I mean I got a lot of catched up too. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.840 But anyways, two have two things that I wrote down 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.400 my notes a by the episode. First of all, Lucas 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.040 punched Nathan in class right, no mark on Nathan's face? 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.920 What kind of punch was that they could? They couldn't 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.520 even put makeup on him to make it look like 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.800 it had bruised. I mean, I thought it was awesome 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.560 when Lucas took his name off the back of his 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.560 jersey though. That was amazing. That Okay, we probably have 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.240 like thirty seconds left. And the biggest thing we took 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.440 away from that episode was the quote from Uncle Keith 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:40.600 when uh he took the cover off of car said, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.480 it's usually the prettier, the prettier the girl, the messier 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.360 the car. And Jan and I just kind of looked 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.840 at each other because Jane's car is usually a mess 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.560 I really do I have a messy car? I don't 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.200 prettier the girl, the messier the car. I mean, And 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.720 that was our five minute O t weecap. But no, 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.400 what here's the thing though, I'd rather have a cleaner 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:08.240 house than I'm like than having a clean car. Well, 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.400 I got all the kids stuff in my car. I 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:12.920 have the same amount of car seats in my car 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:17.840 as you do. Oh contrary, excuse you, there's a car 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.520 seat sitting in the garage, so yeah, you have one 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.600 live one in the garage right now. I'm just saying, 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.720 I'd rather have a clean house Eastern clean house in 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.160 a clean car. Yeah, oh yeah, clean house by far 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.440 for sure. But I think I spent as much time 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.600 in my car some days as I do in the 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.280 house because I'm the one that always drives fascinating conversation. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:46.920 So yeah, if you really want to hear some more 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.080 fascinating conversations, um, come visit us on the Wine Down Tour, 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.960 which is climbing to city near you. So check Janna 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.199 Cramer dot com. And we would love to hang out 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.000 with you. I'm gonna saying some music, um, so yeah, 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.600 we would love to love to hang and to Also 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.320 we're working on something else new. It's really cool. We're 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.160 doing a talk show. We are doing to download the 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.360 app Telly and you can actually ask your questions on 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.240 our app. So I'm all live interactive at the moment, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.920 So when you're watching us, that is us right there 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:21.559 in Eastern and I love it. So yeah, it's really cool. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.400 We're gonna be able to interact with you guys. Um, 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:27.040 so download the Telly app that is gonna go next week. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:31.080 So that's gonna be exciting. UM. Okay, what else? We 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:35.080 have an interesting guest today? Like very interesting, is very interesting. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:41.480 I'm excited in a way where I don't know, I 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:46.000 think people might be upset with the view that I take. Okay, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.360 I don't think I'm I don't think I'm popular. I 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:53.319 don't think I'm the popular opinion. 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We are in Earth 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.440 and it's the so Cal country at the brewery, and 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.520 I'm really excited because not only we podcasting from here, 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.360 but I'm hosting an event and there's Heart He's playing 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.600 High Valley UM in all sponsored Miller Light, brought to 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.120 you by Miller Light and I heart Radio UM. But 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.880 we also have a UM a surprise guest that's going 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:38.880 to be playing performer. Jed why I have a special 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.439 place in my heart for Miller Corps when he got 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:47.400 kicked out of college. By the way, we do so, Jed, 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.719 Michael and I we had we shared the same car, which, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.680 by the way, this is actually a funny story. So 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.920 I didn't know. I didn't know you were going to 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.200 be on our thing. But and they're Tinnerary kept saying 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.160 like jet, you were attached. I'm like, who the f 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.800 is Jet? And then Tori sends me the thing, um 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.680 like a people interview of you, and I was like, oh, 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.439 this guy. And I was like, oh great, and I'll 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.440 get to you know, my feelings and thoughts in a 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.800 little bit. But um, so I didn't see you at 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.920 the I think I saw you like kind of out 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.240 of the cormab, but I didn't know if you knew 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.640 who I was, So I just I just didn't. I 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.719 played like head down. So then I'm in the I'm 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.920 in the airplane and I was like, Michael, if this 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.680 mother effort checks the bag because we didn't check a bag, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.360 We're only here for a day, and you have to 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.280 wait because he checked their bag. But it takes four 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.440 ever at l a AX, I mean forever. And I'm 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.000 texting Tori and I'm like, look, I was like, welcome 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:43.480 to my health. If this guy checks the bag, I'm 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.160 gonna be so pissed because I'm like, we purposely like 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.920 I do not check bags. I hate anyone who ever 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.280 travels with Jana in the future. If you're listening, um, 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.080 even if you're gone for a month, do not check 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.400 a bag. She will judge you and hold it against 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.120 you for the rest of your day. I traveled the 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.679 equipment for the podcast. It's like this, you have to 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.000 check that, you have to check it. I don't know what. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.480 It just drives me creatase, like to land again the 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.760 car and just go. You know. It's just like I've 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:12.720 been traveling for so many years. I just want to 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.839 get to I just want to get and go and blow. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.600 And so I'm just like, and he's here for like 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.040 two days. So if this guy brings all of his 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.840 like stuff, you know for two days, I know that 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.160 was all like my internal But then instantly once you 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.880 saw he didn't check I love him. He's great. Which 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.319 is another funny point though, which we talked about in 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.560 the car. But uh, there's a sign that had all 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.520 three of our last names on there. Oh, this is 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.000 fun and I never I didn't watch the season, so 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.960 I didn't know necessarily what you looked like or anything. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.400 I think Jannah had her head down, but you walked 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.800 by and I was like, you watched you walked right 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.880 by the sign that said Kramer Cosson Wyatt like this guy. 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.880 I asked Janna, I asked you, and I was like, hey, 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:00.640 it just you looked like you would have been on 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.040 the Bachelor, right or something like that, and you had 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.880 a guitar on your background. I knew you were playing today, 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:07.680 so I was like, classic, yeah, Judge in the book 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.160 by its cover. I was like, my senses say that 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.200 might be Jed and so I so I asked Janna. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.320 And this guy near us like younger twenty something, your 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.400 old guy overhears us. He was like, oh, yeah, that's him. 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.840 He was like, I was just trying to text my 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.600 fiance but she's in the bathroom but I have her phone, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.040 but I was going to text her say that jets 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.360 here and you. I was like, thank you random kind sir, 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.840 And now we know. Let's go, guys, let's go get him. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.760 And we grabbed the driver and I thought it was 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.760 so nice you guys came to get me. And I 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.720 walked right by the sign that I didn't even know 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.320 that toll right now, that's awesome, but I'm like, where 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.760 is he going? And mis well, maybe he checked the back. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.760 You guys might have checked the bag. That's what I 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.640 was looking for. I figured you guys would be at 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.520 the baggage. Now now I know for a fact that 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.840 you were not there. But then when that guy started talking, 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:57.120 I was just like, thank you because of him helped us. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.000 We're good, We're here. So funny. Anyways, okay, let's get 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.280 into it. So for those of you, should I even 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:07.080 recap or did your name just so recognizable right now 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.360 that you don't even have to recap? So Jed was 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:20.680 on Hannah's season. He was the winner. But then no, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.880 oh no no, But then, um, yeah, you guys broke 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.520 up because of a situation because you of some you know, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.760 the girl and that whole issue. So what I which, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.640 Jenny came to your defense before I even knew about 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.080 any of this. I actually and this is what I 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:37.480 kind of told you in the car, but I wanted 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.120 to save a lot of it for the podcast. But 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.200 I actually took your side, and I think it was 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.080 a very unpopular in popular how do you say I'm 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:50.520 popular there, am on, It's very unpopular thing to take 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.200 the side. But I did take your side because I 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.400 thought that it was totally over I thought it was 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:02.360 really overly dramatic. And I thought that a ninety nine 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.080 point nine percent of the dudes that go on that 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.080 show have a girlfriend or someone they're talking to, or 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.600 someone they've slept with before they left, or someone they've 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:14.320 texted everywhere to Yeah, and I think to go, yeah, sure, 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.400 you want to go in with who knows? Because who 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.200 knows right if the show is going to ever work, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:22.440 but who if your cousin kicked off week one? You 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.040 want to be able to go back to the your 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.040 girl that you're talking to. And also there was a 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.320 letter apparently that the girl that you were dating at 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.840 the time you wrote, you know, I'm going to come 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.960 back to you or whatever I'm paraphrasing, and you know 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.120 I love you. And to your defense, again, I have 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:41.200 told plenty of people I love them. Guys didn't mean it. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.880 It's just you know, I don't know if she means no. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.080 But I think, you know, maybe your love addict. I'm 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.400 a love addict. He's a love addict. You know. I 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.920 am a hopeless romantic like the same. And you want, 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.880 like you go there, yeah, and you really want to 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.720 feel that and maybe in that moment you did, but 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.720 then you go through the process and you're like, Okay, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.640 that wasn't actually real. I was just manifesting something that 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.240 I wanted to be real. But now this is real, 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.600 and both of those things can be I think the same, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:17.320 and it can be Okay, sure, no, it's just life. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.320 I think when it when you bring a reality dating 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.760 show into the picture, then everything kind of gets solved, 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.560 twisted out of context. But like if this happened, and 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.200 like the real world, this kind of thing does tend 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:34.840 to happen, and that it's an interesting dating a million percent. 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.480 It's weird there, and I like Hannah. She seems very sweet. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.600 I've met her at an um Wingo tango. But for 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.080 me watching the show, it just felt a little little 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:49.800 bit overly dramatic, where I just was like, you're upset, 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.280 You're just because of that, Like really, I don't understand that. 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.399 I can see how and we haven't experienced it, but 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.399 I can see how that becomes their reality, right, So 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.119 it's all distorted, so maybe to that person, but to 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.280 have to give him the gauntlet that bad, Like, Okay, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.240 he he did end up. Yeah, you should have told her. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.040 I meant you should have told her sooner, you should 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.040 have said something. You should have. But at the same time, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:21.200 but if for him, speaking for jed right here, rest 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.480 of my case, But through the process, you might have 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.000 not felt that, Like you said, you might not have 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.840 felt that anymore. Life you just change, You're you're figuring 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.280 your life out. You're still young. It's like, why I've 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.080 even explained it if it didn't mean anything to him exactly. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:35.960 I get that too, That's what I'm saying. I get 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.359 I totally get that point too. But you know, from 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:39.960 a girl's point of view, I am backing her on 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.399 that point where I think that, yeah, I think he 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.680 should have at least said I told someone I loved 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.840 her once before. So just so you know, I've said 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.000 I love you before. No, I'm no, I do. I'm 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:56.720 just I'm I'm not trying to most of it. I 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.040 thought it was way too dramatic for what it was. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.399 I was just like, come on, yeah, that's what you're 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.240 getting upset about. I mean, in hindsight, I can totally 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:08.240 see where I didn't give Hailey enough closure, Like I 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.320 felt like I had closure because of a phone conversation 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.600 that we had once I landed in l A. And yeah, 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.680 so that's where I felt like I kind of had 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.200 like my my piece. But you know, I can see, 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.159 especially like looking back at the note and stuff like that, 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.800 how it could have been like very misleading and in 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.000 a way like hurtful, because you know, she was in 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.640 love and I was feeling it at the time, and 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.320 I thought that that was love. But then I met 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.200 Hannah and that was it. I felt like that was 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.200 so if and Jane and I kind of talked about 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:44.080 this earlier, you know, we're we're all were in the 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.280 car over here together today and if like she did 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:52.280 really love you, would she and you know, in Janna 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.160 and his opinion, it's like, well then if that was us, 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:56.600 we'd be like, well, if you really love me, then 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.000 stay well. And so I d M Hanna. So this 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.040 is also my beef with her two. I d m her. Well, 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:03.760 she was really sweet and she d M me a 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.400 couple of times, wouldn't from Wango Tango, And I was like, Okay, 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.080 she's really sweet. I like her. After that Rose ceremony, 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.560 because I were the live I d M her and 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.719 I said, look, if you truly love him, come you 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.920 can make this work. Don't let the outside world tell 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.479 you what you're supposed to feel and how you're supposed 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.800 to feel. I mean, I literally wrote her a hopeful 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:26.760 thing something so if jet, if you truly loved him, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.879 I was like, Michael and I went through you know everything, 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.240 and you know, from affairs and all of that stuff. 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.840 I said, if we can get through that, I promise 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.600 you you can get through this and you guys will 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.760 be so much stronger, I said. But I said, so, 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:43.680 don't let the outside world affect what you are, what 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.119 maybe you feel like you have to do, because you know, 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.280 my times, my friends told me to leave Mike a 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.280 million So I'm like, if you truly love him, you 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.760 can make this work. Got nothing response back because I 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.000 was like, all right, whatever. But that bought me out too, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.240 because I was just like, okay, now, you know, but 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:03.240 you're trying to be real. Yeah, But when we were 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.000 talking a couple of times too, so I was just 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:06.480 kind of like, all right, well, I was just trying 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.760 to help, But you know, how has everything been since 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.800 it all like you're you know, you're doing music and 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.560 all that, Like, how has it been when you're out socially? 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.560 You know, any backlash or just how are you feeling 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:20.000 about it there? Yeah, I mean it's it's been actually 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:22.440 pretty positive. Most of the people that come up to me, 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.040 I would say, likecent of the people have been like 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:28.439 really kind and usually just want to take a picture 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.000 and chat for a second and and that's it. But 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:38.400