WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Will Bijan Be There? 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.960 Following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.480 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:14.600 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:16.200 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:16.800 Yes? 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.600 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:19.400 Absolutely? 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:21.440 Ready for a break? 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:23.759 Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.200 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:32.080 We were on a Break with Nick Eatman, Brian brought 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.440 us and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.200 It is Wednesday, April twenty sixth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.080 episode number four. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.400 We're living in a s WBC mortgage studios at the 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:51.239 Star and this week this week is the NFL Draft 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.959 in NFL Draft twenty twenty three, happening in Kansas City, Missouri. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.280 He's in Kansasity, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas, I know, but which 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.480 one is miss This one's in Missouri, all right? Got it? 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.240 So Kansas City, Missouri. We'll actually have some folks out 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.200 there covering the draft there. We'll have a whole team 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.160 of people here at the Star covering the draft. Brian 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.200 will be on the Draft show that will be happening 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.640 basically wall to wall, as you guys have come to 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.880 expect from us, Uh, starting on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.040 and we got it all covered. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:18.520 Uh. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.039 There's no better place to get your draft coverage, whether 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.000 you're a Cowboys fan or not than Dallas Cowboys dot 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:25.039 Kyle Cowboys Mobile. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.120 There's gonna be enough people in here to be wall 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:27.679 at the wall. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.760 Yeah, we got a crew this year. We got a 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:30.280 crew this year. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.600 Yeah, Zach is uh from one, O five three. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.160 Zach's sitting out night one, So Sean's host and we 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.160 got our teammates here with Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.759 then Sewn Leaves and then Zach comes in. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.600 So two and three. Yeah, we got a lot of folks. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.520 But you know what we've learned over the years that 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.720 we never stopped talking. You know the thing about it 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.720 is it is a we don't go to breaks on 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.960 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 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Scott was like, we don't have to go 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:12.960 to break on dot com. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.800 Why don't we just keep going straight through it? 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:16.399 His mouth shut. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.840 Literally we get to break and it's like okay, and 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.920 then we're going to break, and then it's like, hey, 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.800 we're back on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Let's talk some 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.600 some draft. And so they just keep going straight. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.679 You don't eat and you hold your pee. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:36.040 Yes, we bring them food. I know, I know, and 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.440 they decided whether they some of them some of them don't. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.240 They eat during the draft upstairs, like you, I never 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:43.400 wanted to leave the room. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.480 I always felt like I was missing something. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:45.799 Yeah. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.440 And the catfish, Yeah, the catfish is the absolute best. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:54.000 Old Eddie Dean would I missing? He is really good. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:55.600 Yeah. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.079 Over when we were over we first started all this 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.959 this journey, when Derek and everybody came up with the 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.119 idea we were k Hill by the way, ed K Hill, 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.480 God bless you, ed K Hill. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.040 Good luck in Atlanta with your draft as well. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.079 But ed uh, Yeah, it was like Eddie Dean used 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.280 to show up and literally you would like. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.880 By the way, restaurant guys, it's not a guy, it's as. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.840 You could smell it, like you'd be working and you 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:25.679 could smell the brisket and the ribs, and so you'd 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.600 just be sitting there and you're like, and then you 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.880 knew at the end of the draft and they were 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.359 they were changing out meals like they had a they 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.720 had a breakfast, they had a lunch, they had a dinner, 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.240 they had a Hey, go have a snack when this 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.520 thing is when you're trying to sign players. So yeah, 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.280 it was man, those were those were the days. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:46.520 What do we have for this? 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.880 We have internal like, don't get me wrong, let's not 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.080 let's know, our food folks here, like the folks here 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.560 in our in our cafeteria here, they do some really 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.800 really Yeah, we will definitely have. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.400 Can I can tell a real quick story? Can I 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.760 tell a real quick story? I'll try and make it quick. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.400 Twenty five years ago I got to run the draft 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.680 in Philadelphia, and I'll never forget because we go on 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.280 the clock. We're getting ready to go on the clock. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.000 And you might have heard this story. I've told it before. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.720 One oh five three, I think. And I'm sitting next 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.960 to Jeff Lurry's wife, Missus Lurry. I'm sitting next to 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:22.120 Christina Lurie. I'm sitting next to her, and it's stead silent. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:22.320 In our room. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:23.760 I mean we're sitting there and getting ready to go 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.960 on the clock. Nobody's saying anything. And she leans over 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.800 to me and she goes, did you try the onwood 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.520 station today? And I go, yeah, missus Lorry, I sure did. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.960 I had crepes though. The crapes were excellent. Yeah, we're 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.800 having a conversation, we're getting ready to go on the clock. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.960 Everybody's kind of looking at this coin and we're talking 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:47.640 about the food that was pre draft, and in a 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.080 way she kind of knew just to break the tension 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.160 in the room, and she came up with she came up. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.400 She just leaned over and. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.240 Says, did you try the onwood station today? And she 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.000 knew that I was going to answer, and I said, yes, 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.839 man did, but I had the crapes. The crapes were excellent. 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.320 I don't know where you got this chef, but he's 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.560 really good. These crapes they were beautiful. They had strawberries. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.480 And she goes, she goes, I thought so too. I 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.480 you know, I was looking at the omwits, but the crapes, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.200 you know, so here we are this whole big conversation 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.880 during the draft. What happens when you go on the clock. 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.800 You know, everybody's thinking, you're just gonna sit in there just. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.600 Like, oh gosh, we're gonna make a pick yere, you 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.400 know that kind of thing. It really isn't that way. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.479 I think fans probably think that they envision what a 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.440 draft war room is and they think it's very always 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:33.200 very intense. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:38.400 Now there are some tense moments in draft war rooms, yeah, yeah. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.200 But by and large, like there is a lot of 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.680 dead time when there's kind of just side conversations where 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.720 there's a little gambling messing around going. I don't know 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.359 if gambling happens in these days. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:48.560 Yeah, I don't think. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.839 That happens, well, not betting on teams, but betting on 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.440 players that maybe you would say maybe back in the day, 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:54.320 maybe that was back. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:54.560 In the day. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.359 These days that that's not all we know about you 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.160 and the gambling thing, And me and Rob Phillips understand. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.600 That they've shut that thing down. There is no gambling 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.480 in the NFL. But but yeah, it's uh, I think 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.479 it's it's it's one of those interesting things that and 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.240 we've even had we have our our behind the scenes 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.000 cameras and microphones. We've had a chance to listen in 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.760 in war rooms and it's not always what you think. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.200 It's a lot of sometimes just kind of a little light, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.520 and then it gets really intense and in the conversations 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.839 they're having where they're talking to not only like getting 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.240 ready for the for the pick. And Brian, you know 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.320 this as well as anybody. I was listening in one 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.720 year and they were reaching out to college coach literally 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.640 called a college coach yah to ask him about a 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.039 player because they were thinking about drafting him and wanted 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.040 to kind of get his thoughts on it. And uh, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.840 and so those kind of things happen as well. There's 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.400 still some due diligence that's happening as you're going along 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.440 and you're making decisions and trying to figure out how 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:46.480 everything's going to play out. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.320 That's how you piss off your scouts. Oh yeah, call 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.960 the coach, call the college coach. They've done all the work, 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.960 when they've done all the work for all these months 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.120 and years. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.560 And then oh, Brian would be turning red. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.280 I'm sure saying, oh, I love all six of Yell's 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.719 reports that are six pages each. But you know what, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.159 I'm gonna call this coach on it. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.000 This is where this is why I'm probably not in 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.120 a room anymore, because I go, what the eff are 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:08.080 we doing right now? 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:09.640 What are we doing? 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.560 Like you know, I would, I would, I would yell, 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:12.920 I would blurt that out. 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:14.880 They called Barry Switzer. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.280 That was what I was talking about, accidently, Okay, to 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:18.280 Marco Murray draft? 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.120 What is for DeMarco Murray? Barry Switzer hading coach at 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.200 Oklahoma in like seventeen eighteen years or whatever. But you 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.040 know when Barry Switzer still tied in, plugged into the 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.440 program of course and all that. But they call him, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.800 I mean, and they had running backs coaches, they had 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.640 all these scouts that it covered him and scouted him. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:36.080 And it's like. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.640 Jerry even said it in the in the post in 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.240 the post draft, like how they got to drafting DeMarco Murray. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.840 He says, Barry Switzer gave his word of approval. And 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.600 I could just feel I could feel everybody that. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.880 Went through Norman that year, the national scouts, the lead scouts, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.200 personal guys, everybody just go just you know, they just 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.280 have to just take this, you know, ball up their fists. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.480 Don't say any kind of a thing. But no, I mean, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.480 you know, yes, you use information. No, everybody uses information. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:11.880 But while you're on the clock, we got our board. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.080 You could hear my fingernails just dig into the desk 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.560 as that was happening. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:18.760 All right, let's jump in. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.200 I wanted to start with a little talk around the 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.760 pre draft press conference that happened earlier this week with 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.040 Stephen Jones Jerry Jones. One of the things that struck 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.240 me initially. There was a conversation and this was probably 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.719 got the biggest play out of anything said during the 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.199 press conference, but Jerry made the comment we may be 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.600 interested in going down or maybe up, or might sit there, 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.240 which is a typical comment from Jerry because he's just like, 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.280 at this point, we're just giving you basically information to 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.120 kind of divert from where we really want to go 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:50.640 and what we really want to do, which is what 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.559 every team does. That being said, the question for you 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.360 guys is what do you think is more likely to 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.679 happen this weekend? They sit and take the pick at 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.360 twenty six, they move up when they move back before 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:02.280 they take their first. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.439 Pick, I would say make the pick at twenty six. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.960 That would be what I think would happen. First, trading 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.400 back would be second, and then trading up it would 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.800 be third. I don't really see a scenario. I mean, 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.480 I see some players there that they could they would want, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.640 but trading up seems a little tough because you've already 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.480 done that. You've already traded some fifth round pick, sixth 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.840 round picks this year next year to kind of improve 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.160 your team with the Cooks and Gilmore's and stuff like that, 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.920 So you've already kind of done it. I'm not saying 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.400 you can't, but they like picks around here, and so 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.880 to move up to get a guy, it could happen, 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.320 but it's more likely that they just make the pick 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.440 right there. And I don't see them trading back very 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.400 much because you're getting out of the first round. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.920 Yeah, I don't think definitely. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.360 They wouldn't trade up because of the value, Like you know, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.040 how much do they care about about their trade value 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:58.640 or their pick value. The only time, the only way 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.160 I would see them trading back is if absolutely everybody 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.480 because he gets to that point where you get to 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.360 the list of guys that you have that could easily 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.880 fall into second round grade. So the only way is 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:16.559 if all their first round people have are gone at 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.920 that point. I think if there is a trade option 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.400 where you get more value that way and just add 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.040 on pigs and pick someone on the second round, that's 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.160 the only way. But right now I do see it 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.800 just staying there, and I think some guys will. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.080 Fall interestingly as a point of Claire, as a point 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.280 of a little more clarity there. They even said in 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.319 the pre draft presser they're thinking fifteen, seventeen, eighteen, Yeah, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.400 the number of players that they have first round grades on. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.520 So the likelihood is when you get to twenty six, 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.520 they're dealing with guys that are second round grades at 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:46.920 that point. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.600 Anyway, I talked to two teams last night that were 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.200 both ahead of Dallas, and they had sixteen and eighteen 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.920 names first round grades. I'd heard whispers of some teams 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.720 only having nine, which seems kind I've never heard nine. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:07.400 It generally is somewhere between fifteen and say twenty. You know, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.200 sometimes you get twenty two, twenty three, but it's very 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.760 very rare that you get. I think last year Dallas 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.600 had fifteen. When Jerry accidentally kind of revealed his board, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.720 you know, he showed his you know, he had fifteen names. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.240 I think they did the research on that. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.760 But yeah, you know, to me, I think that going 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:29.959 up only will happen if somebody is desperate enough to move, 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.440 and I mean, somebody calls Dallas and says, hey, listen, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.400 you interested. Say Let's say Baltimore wants to move at 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.360 twenty two, and that Baltimore's just so adamant about getting 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.880 out of there that they sell their pick for cheap. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.400 That's the only way I see Dallas going up. I 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.840 don't see Dallas paying a premium to have to go up. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.640 I think it's going to be a team the Chargers, Baltimore, Minnesota, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.040 somebody like that that would bail and sell their pick 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.320 for cheap, and then it makes sense for Dallas, like listen, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.120 on a on a short move like this, we might 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.600 have to give our three, but they're they're they want 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.120 to they want a four or five here. Should we 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.760 got to think about this, right guys, you know, and 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.200 if that's the case, that's where you dance forward. But 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.960 trading back, I don't think there's I think there's going 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.400 to be enough players for them there that they don't 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.240 have to trade back. And Stephen Jones will ask you 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.199 the question, and he he was on one O five 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.920 three the other day and he said this, and they 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.160 asked them question, would you trade back? And he said, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.160 who am I trading away from? Who am I trading 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.800 away from? And if that question is one where he's like, no, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.160 I would rather sit in here and pick this player 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.200 than I would trade back. And I think that's where 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.240 that's where you have to they have to make that determination. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:49.920 Do we want to move away from this guy that 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.720 we have at twenty six to say, go at thirty 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.120 or places like that. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.120 I think that's what they'd have to weigh. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.000 And also, you know, that's selling the pick for cheap 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.400 another team. It's got to be that term. We hear 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.080 a lot that that blinking red light of that that 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.800 guy's still up there, because there even if Minnesota or 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.120 Baltimore whoever wants to sell it for cheap, there's still 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.360 got to be a player that's there that you're like, 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.960 I would be crushed if he's not here at this point. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.640 I mean, the Cowboys moved two spots up to get 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.080 Dez Bryant, you know. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.360 And got ahead of Baltimore, got ahead of it. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.480 But you got to get ahead of a team you know, 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.839 in nineteen ninety it's way back. But the teams from 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.960 seventeen to twenty wanted a running back. The Cowboys were 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.360 at twenty one, they knew they needed to get seventeen. 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.120 They wanted to get a guy named Edmitt Smith, so 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.360 they did, you know, but they knew that right then. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.760 The teams wanted them. So it's got to be a guy. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.760 It's gotta be a good deal, and it's also got 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.439 to be somebody that you don't think is going to 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:45.880 make it to you. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.640 But you're right there, you're right there if you're on 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.280 the cusp, say of the eighteen names they have in 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.760 the first round, say they you know that now you're 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.920 no man's land, so you're maybe maybe you catch your 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.920 break along the way that your guys would fall to you, 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.560 but you might be on the cusp of not having 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:04.440 that first round. 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:05.960 The only reason do you do it would go and 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.960 get a guy that you still have in the first round. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.319 Yeah, and that's my question, like, are there some names 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.800 of some guys that I know we've talked about Bjon 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.160 Robinson because he's a guy that because of his position, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.080 people are like, there is a chance that maybe he 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.080 drops to you, Is there a player that you can 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:26.160 think of that's a first round type grade that you 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.720 think there are things that could could could transpire that 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.920 allows him to drop to you, that you could get 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.240 to where he gets to maybe twenty twenty one to 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.400 twenty two, that you would say, hey, this is worth 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.560 us going up to get because he's such a good value. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.800 I kind of feel like there's a couple of spots 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:46.360 there that, for some reason, word is starting to filter 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:51.160 through the drafting world that Joey Porter Junior, the corner 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.040 from Penn State, would be a guy. Now I've looked 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.440 at this a couple of different ways. Joey Porter's the 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.520 ninth best player on my board, of course, the cornerback 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.840 from Penn State. He's the sixteenth best player on Dame 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:08.840 Bruglar's board. He's the twenty third best player on Daniel 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.080 Jeremias board. Okay, Daniel Jeremiah former NFL scout, you know, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.640 been in the league. So he's evaluating guys too. He's 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.600 talking to people. Okay, would Joe would maybe potentially the 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:23.160 best corner on your board gets to twenty three. Now 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.240 you're talking about Wait a minute, is that worth it 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.800 is it worth it to me? Another one I think 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.480 you have to look at if you're looking at edges. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.360 Miles Murphy from Clemson is another one. Miles Murphy for 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.480 on my board is at fourteen. On Dame Burglar's board, 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.360 he's at twenty one on Daniel Jeremiah's board, He's at 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.800 twenty one. Okay, is there value all of a sudden there, Okay, 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.200 one of the best edges in the draft is sliding 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.800 to us. You know, is it worth it to make 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:57.720 a five move trade up to go and get a 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.960 guy that potentially, like I said, could be he might 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.080 be the fourteenth, maybe twelve thirteenth, fourteenth best player on 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.320 their board. All of a sudden, you're making a small move. 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.720 You've gone from basically twenty six to say, you know, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.000 to you know, to twenty to go grab a player 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.200 that has even better value there. Jordan Addison, the wide 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.320 receiver from usc going out a wide receiver here. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:21.680 He's a little bit of a smaller guy. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.200 He's five to eleven wins seventy three, fifteenth best player 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.640 on my board, twenty fifth best player on Dame Brugler's board, 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.640 fifteenth best player on Daniel Jeremiah's board. Okay, where is 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.280 he somewhere in between? If you're into that wide receiver, 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.360 if you feel like that he's the first first wide 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.400 receiver on your board, maybe that's where you think about going. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.240 And you know, you don't want him to slide any 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.960 further because people are seeing the same thing you are. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.680 They're seeing sliding players and they're thinking, how do we 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.640 go and get this guy now? Yep, you know, so 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:52.800 that's what you have to look at. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.680 All Right, Let's let's talk a little bit about that 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.080 running back position, because I think that's the one that 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.320 that's really interesting to a lot of people because of 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.800 the position it's and because of some of the talent there. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.560 The quote that came out of the press was if 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.400 there's a good running back sitting there, I can't imagine 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.160 he's not going to get a lot of attention from 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.359 us about what we could do, what he could do 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.439 if the right guy were there, We certainly look at it. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:15.919 That was a quote from Stephen Jones. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.680 My question for you guys, is is Bijon the only 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.280 running back in that conversation or is Jamiir Gibbs running 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.879 back from Alabama also part of that conversation, as a 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.000 potential first round pick. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.359 I think he's a potential first round pick, but I 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.240 don't know if he's viewed as the most complete back. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.320 I think there are some concerns there with him being 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.360 sort of Tony Pollard like, which is not a bad thing, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.920 but a guy that is an outside perimeter premier. I 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.720 don't know if he is a you know, a guy 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.960 that lives in between the tackles as much. But he's 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.160 a dynamic player, There's no doubt about it. I've seen 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.840 him hit two home runs in the same quarter right 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.960 in front of me there at Arkansas, and he was unbelievable. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.240 So fast is just a dynamic player. But I don't 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.320 I mean, I don't think he's a trade up for guy. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.840 I think he's a guy that if he's there, they 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.240 would I don't know if you they would take him though, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.959 I'm not sure about that. I don't know where they 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:11.919 stand on that. Gibs. 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.159 Yeah, for the first round. The only running back that 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.080