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Speaker 9: You don't eat and you hold your pee.
Speaker 2: Yes, we bring them food. I know, I know, and
Speaker 2: they decided whether they some of them some of them don't.
Speaker 8: They eat during the draft upstairs, like you, I never
Speaker 8: wanted to leave the room.
Speaker 3: I always felt like I was missing something.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And the catfish, Yeah, the catfish is the absolute best.
Speaker 3: Old Eddie Dean would I missing? He is really good.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Over when we were over we first started all this
Speaker 8: this journey, when Derek and everybody came up with the
Speaker 8: idea we were k Hill by the way, ed K Hill,
Speaker 8: God bless you, ed K Hill.
Speaker 3: Good luck in Atlanta with your draft as well.
Speaker 8: But ed uh, Yeah, it was like Eddie Dean used
Speaker 8: to show up and literally you would like.
Speaker 2: By the way, restaurant guys, it's not a guy, it's as.
Speaker 8: You could smell it, like you'd be working and you
Speaker 8: could smell the brisket and the ribs, and so you'd
Speaker 8: just be sitting there and you're like, and then you
Speaker 8: knew at the end of the draft and they were
Speaker 8: they were changing out meals like they had a they
Speaker 8: had a breakfast, they had a lunch, they had a dinner,
Speaker 8: they had a Hey, go have a snack when this
Speaker 8: thing is when you're trying to sign players. So yeah,
Speaker 8: it was man, those were those were the days.
Speaker 9: What do we have for this?
Speaker 5: We have internal like, don't get me wrong, let's not
Speaker 5: let's know, our food folks here, like the folks here
Speaker 5: in our in our cafeteria here, they do some really
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Speaker 8: Can I can tell a real quick story? Can I
Speaker 8: tell a real quick story? I'll try and make it quick.
Speaker 8: Twenty five years ago I got to run the draft
Speaker 8: in Philadelphia, and I'll never forget because we go on
Speaker 8: the clock. We're getting ready to go on the clock.
Speaker 8: And you might have heard this story. I've told it before.
Speaker 8: One oh five three, I think. And I'm sitting next
Speaker 8: to Jeff Lurry's wife, Missus Lurry. I'm sitting next to
Speaker 8: Christina Lurie. I'm sitting next to her, and it's stead silent.
Speaker 3: In our room.
Speaker 8: I mean we're sitting there and getting ready to go
Speaker 8: on the clock. Nobody's saying anything. And she leans over
Speaker 8: to me and she goes, did you try the onwood
Speaker 8: station today? And I go, yeah, missus Lorry, I sure did.
Speaker 8: I had crepes though. The crapes were excellent. Yeah, we're
Speaker 8: having a conversation, we're getting ready to go on the clock.
Speaker 8: Everybody's kind of looking at this coin and we're talking
Speaker 8: about the food that was pre draft, and in a
Speaker 8: way she kind of knew just to break the tension
Speaker 8: in the room, and she came up with she came up.
Speaker 3: She just leaned over and.
Speaker 8: Says, did you try the onwood station today? And she
Speaker 8: knew that I was going to answer, and I said, yes,
Speaker 8: man did, but I had the crapes. The crapes were excellent.
Speaker 8: I don't know where you got this chef, but he's
Speaker 8: really good. These crapes they were beautiful. They had strawberries.
Speaker 8: And she goes, she goes, I thought so too. I
Speaker 8: you know, I was looking at the omwits, but the crapes,
Speaker 8: you know, so here we are this whole big conversation
Speaker 8: during the draft. What happens when you go on the clock.
Speaker 8: You know, everybody's thinking, you're just gonna sit in there just.
Speaker 3: Like, oh gosh, we're gonna make a pick yere, you
Speaker 3: know that kind of thing. It really isn't that way.
Speaker 5: I think fans probably think that they envision what a
Speaker 5: draft war room is and they think it's very always
Speaker 5: very intense.
Speaker 2: Now there are some tense moments in draft war rooms, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: But by and large, like there is a lot of
Speaker 5: dead time when there's kind of just side conversations where
Speaker 5: there's a little gambling messing around going. I don't know
Speaker 5: if gambling happens in these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 8: That happens, well, not betting on teams, but betting on
Speaker 8: players that maybe you would say maybe back in the day,
Speaker 8: maybe that was back.
Speaker 3: In the day.
Speaker 8: These days that that's not all we know about you
Speaker 8: and the gambling thing, And me and Rob Phillips understand.
Speaker 5: That they've shut that thing down. There is no gambling
Speaker 5: in the NFL. But but yeah, it's uh, I think
Speaker 5: it's it's it's one of those interesting things that and
Speaker 5: we've even had we have our our behind the scenes
Speaker 5: cameras and microphones. We've had a chance to listen in
Speaker 5: in war rooms and it's not always what you think.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of sometimes just kind of a little light,
Speaker 5: and then it gets really intense and in the conversations
Speaker 5: they're having where they're talking to not only like getting
Speaker 5: ready for the for the pick. And Brian, you know
Speaker 5: this as well as anybody. I was listening in one
Speaker 5: year and they were reaching out to college coach literally
Speaker 5: called a college coach yah to ask him about a
Speaker 5: player because they were thinking about drafting him and wanted
Speaker 5: to kind of get his thoughts on it. And uh,
Speaker 5: and so those kind of things happen as well. There's
Speaker 5: still some due diligence that's happening as you're going along
Speaker 5: and you're making decisions and trying to figure out how
Speaker 5: everything's going to play out.
Speaker 7: That's how you piss off your scouts. Oh yeah, call
Speaker 7: the coach, call the college coach. They've done all the work,
Speaker 7: when they've done all the work for all these months
Speaker 7: and years.
Speaker 2: And then oh, Brian would be turning red.
Speaker 7: I'm sure saying, oh, I love all six of Yell's
Speaker 7: reports that are six pages each. But you know what,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna call this coach on it.
Speaker 8: This is where this is why I'm probably not in
Speaker 8: a room anymore, because I go, what the eff are
Speaker 8: we doing right now?
Speaker 3: What are we doing?
Speaker 8: Like you know, I would, I would, I would yell,
Speaker 8: I would blurt that out.
Speaker 7: They called Barry Switzer.
Speaker 2: That was what I was talking about, accidently, Okay, to
Speaker 2: Marco Murray draft?
Speaker 7: What is for DeMarco Murray? Barry Switzer hading coach at
Speaker 7: Oklahoma in like seventeen eighteen years or whatever. But you
Speaker 7: know when Barry Switzer still tied in, plugged into the
Speaker 7: program of course and all that. But they call him,
Speaker 7: I mean, and they had running backs coaches, they had
Speaker 7: all these scouts that it covered him and scouted him.
Speaker 7: And it's like.
Speaker 8: Jerry even said it in the in the post in
Speaker 8: the post draft, like how they got to drafting DeMarco Murray.
Speaker 3: He says, Barry Switzer gave his word of approval. And
Speaker 3: I could just feel I could feel everybody that.
Speaker 8: Went through Norman that year, the national scouts, the lead scouts,
Speaker 8: personal guys, everybody just go just you know, they just
Speaker 8: have to just take this, you know, ball up their fists.
Speaker 8: Don't say any kind of a thing. But no, I mean,
Speaker 8: you know, yes, you use information. No, everybody uses information.
Speaker 8: But while you're on the clock, we got our board.
Speaker 8: You could hear my fingernails just dig into the desk
Speaker 8: as that was happening.
Speaker 2: All right, let's jump in.
Speaker 5: I wanted to start with a little talk around the
Speaker 5: pre draft press conference that happened earlier this week with
Speaker 5: Stephen Jones Jerry Jones. One of the things that struck
Speaker 5: me initially. There was a conversation and this was probably
Speaker 5: got the biggest play out of anything said during the
Speaker 5: press conference, but Jerry made the comment we may be
Speaker 5: interested in going down or maybe up, or might sit there,
Speaker 5: which is a typical comment from Jerry because he's just like,
Speaker 5: at this point, we're just giving you basically information to
Speaker 5: kind of divert from where we really want to go
Speaker 5: and what we really want to do, which is what
Speaker 5: every team does. That being said, the question for you
Speaker 5: guys is what do you think is more likely to
Speaker 5: happen this weekend? They sit and take the pick at
Speaker 5: twenty six, they move up when they move back before
Speaker 5: they take their first.
Speaker 7: Pick, I would say make the pick at twenty six.
Speaker 7: That would be what I think would happen. First, trading
Speaker 7: back would be second, and then trading up it would
Speaker 7: be third. I don't really see a scenario. I mean,
Speaker 7: I see some players there that they could they would want,
Speaker 7: but trading up seems a little tough because you've already
Speaker 7: done that. You've already traded some fifth round pick, sixth
Speaker 7: round picks this year next year to kind of improve
Speaker 7: your team with the Cooks and Gilmore's and stuff like that,
Speaker 7: So you've already kind of done it. I'm not saying
Speaker 7: you can't, but they like picks around here, and so
Speaker 7: to move up to get a guy, it could happen,
Speaker 7: but it's more likely that they just make the pick
Speaker 7: right there. And I don't see them trading back very
Speaker 7: much because you're getting out of the first round.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think definitely.
Speaker 10: They wouldn't trade up because of the value, Like you know,
Speaker 10: how much do they care about about their trade value
Speaker 10: or their pick value. The only time, the only way
Speaker 10: I would see them trading back is if absolutely everybody
Speaker 10: because he gets to that point where you get to
Speaker 10: the list of guys that you have that could easily
Speaker 10: fall into second round grade. So the only way is
Speaker 10: if all their first round people have are gone at
Speaker 10: that point. I think if there is a trade option
Speaker 10: where you get more value that way and just add
Speaker 10: on pigs and pick someone on the second round, that's
Speaker 10: the only way. But right now I do see it
Speaker 10: just staying there, and I think some guys will.
Speaker 5: Fall interestingly as a point of Claire, as a point
Speaker 5: of a little more clarity there. They even said in
Speaker 5: the pre draft presser they're thinking fifteen, seventeen, eighteen, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the number of players that they have first round grades on.
Speaker 5: So the likelihood is when you get to twenty six,
Speaker 5: they're dealing with guys that are second round grades at
Speaker 5: that point.
Speaker 8: Anyway, I talked to two teams last night that were
Speaker 8: both ahead of Dallas, and they had sixteen and eighteen
Speaker 8: names first round grades. I'd heard whispers of some teams
Speaker 8: only having nine, which seems kind I've never heard nine.
Speaker 8: It generally is somewhere between fifteen and say twenty. You know,
Speaker 8: sometimes you get twenty two, twenty three, but it's very
Speaker 8: very rare that you get. I think last year Dallas
Speaker 8: had fifteen. When Jerry accidentally kind of revealed his board,
Speaker 8: you know, he showed his you know, he had fifteen names.
Speaker 3: I think they did the research on that.
Speaker 8: But yeah, you know, to me, I think that going
Speaker 8: up only will happen if somebody is desperate enough to move,
Speaker 8: and I mean, somebody calls Dallas and says, hey, listen,
Speaker 8: you interested. Say Let's say Baltimore wants to move at
Speaker 8: twenty two, and that Baltimore's just so adamant about getting
Speaker 8: out of there that they sell their pick for cheap.
Speaker 8: That's the only way I see Dallas going up. I
Speaker 8: don't see Dallas paying a premium to have to go up.
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be a team the Chargers, Baltimore, Minnesota,
Speaker 8: somebody like that that would bail and sell their pick
Speaker 8: for cheap, and then it makes sense for Dallas, like listen,
Speaker 8: on a on a short move like this, we might
Speaker 8: have to give our three, but they're they're they want
Speaker 8: to they want a four or five here. Should we
Speaker 8: got to think about this, right guys, you know, and
Speaker 8: if that's the case, that's where you dance forward. But
Speaker 8: trading back, I don't think there's I think there's going
Speaker 8: to be enough players for them there that they don't
Speaker 8: have to trade back. And Stephen Jones will ask you
Speaker 8: the question, and he he was on one O five
Speaker 8: three the other day and he said this, and they
Speaker 8: asked them question, would you trade back? And he said,
Speaker 8: who am I trading away from? Who am I trading
Speaker 8: away from? And if that question is one where he's like, no,
Speaker 8: I would rather sit in here and pick this player
Speaker 8: than I would trade back. And I think that's where
Speaker 8: that's where you have to they have to make that determination.
Speaker 8: Do we want to move away from this guy that
Speaker 8: we have at twenty six to say, go at thirty
Speaker 8: or places like that.
Speaker 3: I think that's what they'd have to weigh.
Speaker 7: And also, you know, that's selling the pick for cheap
Speaker 7: another team. It's got to be that term. We hear
Speaker 7: a lot that that blinking red light of that that
Speaker 7: guy's still up there, because there even if Minnesota or
Speaker 7: Baltimore whoever wants to sell it for cheap, there's still
Speaker 7: got to be a player that's there that you're like,
Speaker 7: I would be crushed if he's not here at this point.
Speaker 7: I mean, the Cowboys moved two spots up to get
Speaker 7: Dez Bryant, you know.
Speaker 8: And got ahead of Baltimore, got ahead of it.
Speaker 7: But you got to get ahead of a team you know,
Speaker 7: in nineteen ninety it's way back. But the teams from
Speaker 7: seventeen to twenty wanted a running back. The Cowboys were
Speaker 7: at twenty one, they knew they needed to get seventeen.
Speaker 7: They wanted to get a guy named Edmitt Smith, so
Speaker 7: they did, you know, but they knew that right then.
Speaker 7: The teams wanted them. So it's got to be a guy.
Speaker 7: It's gotta be a good deal, and it's also got
Speaker 7: to be somebody that you don't think is going to
Speaker 7: make it to you.
Speaker 8: But you're right there, you're right there if you're on
Speaker 8: the cusp, say of the eighteen names they have in
Speaker 8: the first round, say they you know that now you're
Speaker 8: no man's land, so you're maybe maybe you catch your
Speaker 8: break along the way that your guys would fall to you,
Speaker 8: but you might be on the cusp of not having
Speaker 8: that first round.
Speaker 3: The only reason do you do it would go and
Speaker 3: get a guy that you still have in the first round.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's my question, like, are there some names
Speaker 5: of some guys that I know we've talked about Bjon
Speaker 5: Robinson because he's a guy that because of his position,
Speaker 5: people are like, there is a chance that maybe he
Speaker 5: drops to you, Is there a player that you can
Speaker 5: think of that's a first round type grade that you
Speaker 5: think there are things that could could could transpire that
Speaker 5: allows him to drop to you, that you could get
Speaker 5: to where he gets to maybe twenty twenty one to
Speaker 5: twenty two, that you would say, hey, this is worth
Speaker 5: us going up to get because he's such a good value.
Speaker 8: I kind of feel like there's a couple of spots
Speaker 8: there that, for some reason, word is starting to filter
Speaker 8: through the drafting world that Joey Porter Junior, the corner
Speaker 8: from Penn State, would be a guy. Now I've looked
Speaker 8: at this a couple of different ways. Joey Porter's the
Speaker 8: ninth best player on my board, of course, the cornerback
Speaker 8: from Penn State. He's the sixteenth best player on Dame
Speaker 8: Bruglar's board. He's the twenty third best player on Daniel
Speaker 8: Jeremias board. Okay, Daniel Jeremiah former NFL scout, you know,
Speaker 8: been in the league. So he's evaluating guys too. He's
Speaker 8: talking to people. Okay, would Joe would maybe potentially the
Speaker 8: best corner on your board gets to twenty three. Now
Speaker 8: you're talking about Wait a minute, is that worth it
Speaker 8: is it worth it to me? Another one I think
Speaker 8: you have to look at if you're looking at edges.
Speaker 8: Miles Murphy from Clemson is another one. Miles Murphy for
Speaker 8: on my board is at fourteen. On Dame Burglar's board,
Speaker 8: he's at twenty one on Daniel Jeremiah's board, He's at
Speaker 8: twenty one. Okay, is there value all of a sudden there, Okay,
Speaker 8: one of the best edges in the draft is sliding
Speaker 8: to us. You know, is it worth it to make
Speaker 8: a five move trade up to go and get a
Speaker 8: guy that potentially, like I said, could be he might
Speaker 8: be the fourteenth, maybe twelve thirteenth, fourteenth best player on
Speaker 8: their board. All of a sudden, you're making a small move.
Speaker 8: You've gone from basically twenty six to say, you know,
Speaker 8: to you know, to twenty to go grab a player
Speaker 8: that has even better value there. Jordan Addison, the wide
Speaker 8: receiver from usc going out a wide receiver here.
Speaker 3: He's a little bit of a smaller guy.
Speaker 8: He's five to eleven wins seventy three, fifteenth best player
Speaker 8: on my board, twenty fifth best player on Dame Brugler's board,
Speaker 8: fifteenth best player on Daniel Jeremiah's board. Okay, where is
Speaker 8: he somewhere in between? If you're into that wide receiver,
Speaker 8: if you feel like that he's the first first wide
Speaker 8: receiver on your board, maybe that's where you think about going.
Speaker 8: And you know, you don't want him to slide any
Speaker 8: further because people are seeing the same thing you are.
Speaker 8: They're seeing sliding players and they're thinking, how do we
Speaker 8: go and get this guy now? Yep, you know, so
Speaker 8: that's what you have to look at.
Speaker 5: All Right, Let's let's talk a little bit about that
Speaker 5: running back position, because I think that's the one that
Speaker 5: that's really interesting to a lot of people because of
Speaker 5: the position it's and because of some of the talent there.
Speaker 5: The quote that came out of the press was if
Speaker 5: there's a good running back sitting there, I can't imagine
Speaker 5: he's not going to get a lot of attention from
Speaker 5: us about what we could do, what he could do
Speaker 5: if the right guy were there, We certainly look at it.
Speaker 2: That was a quote from Stephen Jones.
Speaker 5: My question for you guys, is is Bijon the only
Speaker 5: running back in that conversation or is Jamiir Gibbs running
Speaker 5: back from Alabama also part of that conversation, as a
Speaker 5: potential first round pick.
Speaker 7: I think he's a potential first round pick, but I
Speaker 7: don't know if he's viewed as the most complete back.
Speaker 7: I think there are some concerns there with him being
Speaker 7: sort of Tony Pollard like, which is not a bad thing,
Speaker 7: but a guy that is an outside perimeter premier. I
Speaker 7: don't know if he is a you know, a guy
Speaker 7: that lives in between the tackles as much. But he's
Speaker 7: a dynamic player, There's no doubt about it. I've seen
Speaker 7: him hit two home runs in the same quarter right
Speaker 7: in front of me there at Arkansas, and he was unbelievable.
Speaker 7: So fast is just a dynamic player. But I don't
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think he's a trade up for guy.
Speaker 7: I think he's a guy that if he's there, they
Speaker 7: would I don't know if you they would take him though,
Speaker 7: I'm not sure about that. I don't know where they
Speaker 7: stand on that. Gibs.
Speaker 10: Yeah, for the first round. The only running back that
Speaker 10: I would go for would be Robinson.
Speaker 9: That's it.
Speaker 10: I think the more you look at just history and everything,
Speaker 10: I think you can find value in other rounds at
Speaker 10: the running the running back position. So I just don't
Speaker 10: see the need to force yourself to take somebody that, yeah,
Speaker 10: could help you at the position. But you also got
Speaker 10: to remember you have Tony Poler this year. I know
Speaker 10: you have to keep thinking about the future because right
Speaker 10: now we haven't heard anything happening about his contract, if
Speaker 10: they're gonna give him a contract or extend him his
Speaker 10: stay here. But all in all, you've backed yourself up
Speaker 10: with what you got for this year. Yes, you still
Speaker 10: need to draft a running back in this draft, but
Speaker 10: I would look at like in further like maybe third
Speaker 10: round or something like that for a running back unless Robinson.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think I think Robinson makes a lot
Speaker 8: of sense there. I think he would number one to
Speaker 8: be the best player.
Speaker 3: On their board.
Speaker 8: And I'm one of these guys that actually worries about
Speaker 8: Philadelphia not picking him at ten, but moving up ahead
Speaker 8: of you and trying to grab him at you know,
Speaker 8: knowing that they have that thirty first, the thirty, they
Speaker 8: have the thirty, thirty, they have the thirty, and I
Speaker 8: would worry about them just Philadelphia is a team that
Speaker 8: likes to move around if they see value on the board,
Speaker 8: and so I worry.
Speaker 10: About Sorry, what happened with the since we're talking about
Speaker 10: the running back and Philly. What happened with the whole
Speaker 10: campaign of trying to get Zeke.
Speaker 5: I think I thought that was personally and this is
Speaker 5: not something that.
Speaker 9: I know and can by other players.
Speaker 5: My understanding was that that was more of a you know,
Speaker 5: Zeke's people kind of putting agent traitor as these are
Speaker 5: the three teams that Zeke has an interest in, not
Speaker 5: so much Philly saying we want Zeke, right, that was
Speaker 5: my impression.
Speaker 10: Well, I was I campaign am in by, like you
Speaker 10: saw multiple players from the Philadelphia Eagles tweeting out we
Speaker 10: won Zeke or something like that. But anyways, I'm just
Speaker 10: wondering how that plays into what they're doing in the
Speaker 10: draft as far as the running back position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Philly. I think Philly.
Speaker 8: I don't think they would take Robertson at ten, but
Speaker 8: I think they would consider him at thirty. The value
Speaker 8: there's too much and people are you know, I think
Speaker 8: Dallas is doing a good job of not saying anything
Speaker 8: about b Jon Robertson. They haven't thirty visited him. They
Speaker 8: if you listen to his discussions of who's visit with
Speaker 8: I think the two teams were Philadelphia was one of them,
Speaker 8: and kind of can't remember there was two teams, but
Speaker 8: it was it.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 8: It's it's been a very small group because I think
Speaker 8: he's one of these players that know that everybody recognizes
Speaker 8: as a top five player. They just don't know where
Speaker 8: to take him in.
Speaker 5: The draft and they don't want to give their hand
Speaker 5: away exactly. They would take it exactly if he got
Speaker 5: to a certain point.
Speaker 8: If I'm Dallas, I would be concerned if I was
Speaker 8: sitting on waiting for him and see, but you're to
Speaker 8: your point. Spears from two Lane, Bigsby from Auburn, Rosehawn
Speaker 8: Johnson from Texas, those are all third round guys that
Speaker 8: if you drafted they very well in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 8: could be your starting running back. That's that's just that
Speaker 8: this draft is really it's unusual for the number of
Speaker 8: short wide receivers, depth to tight end running back depth
Speaker 8: throughout and then your cornerback. So there's spots. But yeah,
Speaker 8: it's to your point, it's really b Jeon Robinson or
Speaker 8: Bust And what I would do.
Speaker 2: If I was the Cowboys, all right, we're gonna take
Speaker 2: our final break.
Speaker 5: I saw our first break here we're gonna come back.
Speaker 5: We got a few more things I want to hit from.
Speaker 8: The I shouldn't say bust. I should say if I
Speaker 8: don't get him, I can go get others.
Speaker 5: I shouldn't say that's the only running back you'd be
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Speaker 5: It is the second segment of the Break Life from
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Speaker 5: specific names for the draft this weekend, particularly on Thursday night.
Speaker 5: I want to go around the tape. I want each
Speaker 5: of you guys. I told you to prepare for three.
Speaker 5: We don't have enough time for that, so we're going
Speaker 5: to have each of you give us one player that
Speaker 5: is a realistic shot of being there at twenty six
Speaker 5: that you think would be best option, best case scenario
Speaker 5: for Dallas to select at that position.
Speaker 2: Let's start first with you, miss Treatman.
Speaker 7: I'm going last, all right, well first, going last, because
Speaker 7: they let them make the picks the night, I got
Speaker 7: like a one hundred names. All right, let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's go, Brian, Brian, give me yours.
Speaker 8: I think Drew Sanders is a legitimate option there for
Speaker 8: the Dallas Cowboys, a linebacker from Arkansas. Depending on which
Speaker 8: way the draft, I kind.
Speaker 3: Of feel like the draft is going to.
Speaker 8: The draft can fall a couple of different ways for
Speaker 8: the Cowboys. I think they've left themselves open to take.
Speaker 3: A lot of different players.
Speaker 8: Nick's talking about maybe nine names there. Could there, Reguard
Speaker 8: be there, could a wide receiver be there. The tight
Speaker 8: end is a very popular thing, depending on which tight
Speaker 8: end it is.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I.
Speaker 8: Kind of feel like the one player that I know
Speaker 8: will be there when they pick at at twenty six
Speaker 8: is Drew Sanders. That that linebacker there from Arkansas.
Speaker 7: Okay, since Derek has to take a call, I'm going
Speaker 7: to kind of change it up a little bit go
Speaker 7: back to what you said. You said originally we said
Speaker 7: three names.
Speaker 3: Yeah I have three. I had three.
Speaker 7: Let's go for thread.
Speaker 3: Yeah I had three. I have three names.
Speaker 8: But he knew how much how long I talk, so
Speaker 8: he's smart about that. I think I think Dalton Kinkaid
Speaker 8: the tight end from Utah would be a considerate, absolute
Speaker 8: consideration there.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people.
Speaker 7: Have VESD tight in on your board.
Speaker 8: No, actually, the other tight end is the best tight
Speaker 8: end on my board. But King Kate Mayor's number. Mayor's
Speaker 8: number eighteen on my on my stack of two hundred
Speaker 8: and ten, kin Kid is twenty two. So but I
Speaker 8: think if they if they had a choice, one of
Speaker 8: these tight ends is going to be gone kin Kid
Speaker 8: or mar Both tight ends could be gone too.
Speaker 3: But I think if they.
Speaker 8: Had a choice, they probably would take King Kate. That's
Speaker 8: just my that's my guest there.
Speaker 7: All right, we'll stop at two there, because then you'll
Speaker 7: go for two for you.
Speaker 9: It's amazing.
Speaker 7: I'm just changing. I'm completely changed also. But I think
Speaker 7: you were saying tight end maybe one of yours.
Speaker 10: So well, you know, I haven't been necessarily a fan
Speaker 10: for drafting a tight end. This year, just because I
Speaker 10: feel there are other bigger needs.
Speaker 9: But the more I.
Speaker 10: Look at the draft and and everything, you know, whatever
Speaker 10: kind of offensive weapon you can bring in this year,
Speaker 10: you need it wherever that is, whether that's running back,
Speaker 10: whether that's a wide receiver that somehow, if there is
Speaker 10: a trade happening now you fall into the second round,
Speaker 10: you decide to draft a wide receiver there. I think
Speaker 10: that can be very much necessary and impactful in the
Speaker 10: offense as well as a guy that's a titand you
Speaker 10: mentioned Mayor. And one thing I really like about him
Speaker 10: is his blocking abilities. Uh And I know, and we've
Speaker 10: talked about it. People comparing him to Jason Witten. Some
Speaker 10: people compare him to him. But one of my guys,
Speaker 10: like my main guy right now, I think would be
Speaker 10: Steve Avila. Steve I don't know if he's if he
Speaker 10: if he's Hispanic or not. I know he was his
Speaker 10: local from Arlington. I like his name, not the short version.
Speaker 8: We'll see if he speaks of the two people that
Speaker 8: that know exactly how.
Speaker 9: But can he play. I like his ability.
Speaker 10: He has the you know, he's played on in all
Speaker 10: three positions on the on the O line. He has
Speaker 10: experience in all three tackle, center, and guard, and I
Speaker 10: think he can be a guy that although eventually you
Speaker 10: want to find the specific position and keep him at
Speaker 10: a certain spot, he can be someone that the type
Speaker 10: of player that is all I needs right now, that
Speaker 10: has that type of flexibility to move around and be
Speaker 10: put what he needs to put. I think he has
Speaker 10: a lot of power and strength, and one of the
Speaker 10: things I was reading about him that I really like
Speaker 10: is his captain ability, his leadership, the type of player,
Speaker 10: the type of mentality that you need, especially in the
Speaker 10: O line, and that type of uh devotion and concentration.
Speaker 10: So he he would be my top guy right now
Speaker 10: as far as who.
Speaker 9: I think might be available there.
Speaker 10: But like I said before, if Robinson is home somehow there,
Speaker 10: definitely take him.
Speaker 9: But if not, I I'm looking more for alignment.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you nail the description of the player.
Speaker 3: I think he got him absolutely right.
Speaker 7: How do you say his name? I think what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 7: Both? Well, both of those guys there are are plug
Speaker 7: and play guys. You know, you take a tight end
Speaker 7: in the first round he's starting, and you take a
Speaker 7: guard or center. He's a guard at this point he starts,
Speaker 7: and so The thing about Drew Sanders that I like
Speaker 7: is is not comparing him to Micah Parsons, but the
Speaker 7: fact that he is an outside linebacker but he can
Speaker 7: rush from the outside, play different things. There's a lot
Speaker 7: and and if you just watch him, because he walked
Speaker 7: in through the training table on the thirty visits or
Speaker 7: he might have been a Dallas date guy because he
Speaker 7: was local, but he was he was there and I
Speaker 7: thought it was Layton vander Rush. I mean literally thought
Speaker 7: that was who it was. I mean that the big tall,
Speaker 7: you know, same color hair. I mean, it is just everything.
Speaker 7: And so if he can be like a Layton vander Rush,
Speaker 7: you know, especially as a rookie, stay healthy, I think
Speaker 7: he's even moredynamic than that. Who's your third guy? We
Speaker 7: switched it to back to three?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually, actually I.
Speaker 2: Think I give up my right to say anything about it.
Speaker 7: I threw we're talking about kickers and players.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I threw a big curve.
Speaker 8: I threw a big curveball in there at three and
Speaker 8: I went with Emmanuel Forbes, the cornerback from Mississippi State.
Speaker 7: He got six pick sixes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so takes it to the house.
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe this is one of these guys that we
Speaker 8: haven't talked a whole heck of a lot about.
Speaker 3: The thing we've talked about is he is a slight
Speaker 3: built guy.
Speaker 8: He's a combined He weighed in at one hundred and
Speaker 8: sixty six pounds. If you're one of these people that
Speaker 8: believe in numbers and metrics and things like that, there's
Speaker 8: only been two corners that have been drafted that have
Speaker 8: weighed less and played and had success. So I think
Speaker 8: that to me with Forbes, the tape is just that good,
Speaker 8: you know where if you got to the point where
Speaker 8: it's like we're going to take a defensive player, and
Speaker 8: I know people are talking about McDonald and others, the
Speaker 8: edges and things like that, if you're looking at a
Speaker 8: corner that could just lock some people down and their
Speaker 8: situation at corner might not be as ideal looking forward,
Speaker 8: I think that Emmanuel Forbes would be a guy that
Speaker 8: I would keep an eye on as that guy.
Speaker 5: So I have this question I heard I've heard other
Speaker 5: people say a similar thing about him that the tape
Speaker 5: says he can play regardless of his size for the
Speaker 5: Cowboys where they have had some challenges on the perimeter
Speaker 5: being able to stop the run and.
Speaker 3: He's not afraid.
Speaker 5: That's my question is because you got some slight built
Speaker 5: guys like Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 2: To me, he's little.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jordan's geared like he's gonna come up and he's
Speaker 5: gonna he's gonna make the tackle. My question is is
Speaker 5: he a good guy and when it comes to his
Speaker 5: run support.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't have a problem. I don't think there's
Speaker 8: a coward bone in his body. This this guy super
Speaker 8: competitive in the way you watch him play, and I
Speaker 8: think that's the one thing this this class has guys
Speaker 8: that were willing to come up. And the first line
Speaker 8: on my notes is appears real thin on tape, but
Speaker 8: don't let his let his lack of bulk flu fool you.
Speaker 8: He does a really good job coverage, but he also
Speaker 8: has also does a good job of dealing with the run.
Speaker 8: He's more than willing to drive down to try and
Speaker 8: make place, will throw his body in there, wrap up,
Speaker 8: and other times he'll just launch himself. Love the effort
Speaker 8: he plays with in there in that area. So I
Speaker 8: don't have a problem. I mean, I I think he's
Speaker 8: got toughness. I don't think he's scared to make place.
Speaker 9: Who's err guy.
Speaker 5: There's only one guy that I want them to get
Speaker 5: in the first round. And I know it's not a
Speaker 5: likely it's not a likely thing to happen, but I
Speaker 5: am just praying to God.
Speaker 9: Who's number two?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Or at least position wise, where are you looking?
Speaker 2: But see that's part of the problem.
Speaker 5: Like I would look for who's the guy that's the
Speaker 5: the the the guy that I think it's named maybe
Speaker 5: Washington that they think, yeah, no, no, not not not
Speaker 5: that guy, the guy that can immediately plug in at guard.
Speaker 7: Cyrus Torrents from Florida or Steve am It wasn't either one.
Speaker 5: Darnell right, yeah, Donald right, Donald right, that's the one
Speaker 5: that triagues me, just because of Iowa would fit. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's where that that one is, because where he could
Speaker 5: where we would fit. I don't love and I've heard
Speaker 5: all the conversation on Meyer. I don't love that type
Speaker 5: of player. If what they're describing is what he is,
Speaker 5: then I don't love that type of player at twenty six.
Speaker 5: I want a dynamic player at twenty six, or I
Speaker 5: want somebody that immediately is better than what I got.
Speaker 5: I think Mayer right now, if you plugged him in
Speaker 5: based upon what I've heard, I'm not sure he's better
Speaker 5: than what you already have a tight end. Is he
Speaker 5: just he might be a better blocker, maybe a better blocker,
Speaker 5: but you could get a better blocker.
Speaker 2: I've heard you say there's some blockers in the third
Speaker 2: and fourth round.
Speaker 8: To her point about she made Amber made a point
Speaker 8: about the running backs. If you wouldn't take one in
Speaker 8: the first, you could take a tight end in the third.
Speaker 8: You know whether that's you know, we'll see Craft from
Speaker 8: South Dakota State. Laporta from from Iowa is another guy
Speaker 8: that you might you know, you might have to consider
Speaker 8: about that. Schoonmaker from Michigan is another guy they run
Speaker 8: the ball behind. I've got him as the eighty sixth
Speaker 8: best player on my board. So yeah, it's not about
Speaker 8: having to take one of There's a difference though, between
Speaker 8: these top tight ends because of the downfield ability. When
Speaker 8: you get down into the draft, you lose that ability
Speaker 8: to have the downfield threat. You got good catchers of
Speaker 8: the football, but you might have a little bit better
Speaker 8: blockers is what you might have if you look in
Speaker 8: that third, fourth and fifth round for a tight end.
Speaker 9: Yeah, who's your other guy.
Speaker 7: I had Darnell right, and then I also had Will
Speaker 7: McDonald from Iowa State. I think they like him. I
Speaker 7: looked at him some tape on him, and again what
Speaker 7: I'm looking at is more the positive things, So you know,
Speaker 7: you got to be careful when you're watching some of
Speaker 7: those YouTube highlights and all that. But what I did
Speaker 7: like about him is that when they put you know,
Speaker 7: and I also like the circle. You know, give me
Speaker 7: the circle so I can kind of see where he is.
Speaker 7: It lines up, He's all over the place. See him
Speaker 7: at right, tack right right, see him at left. Ind
Speaker 7: I see him kind of coming off the edge from
Speaker 7: like a traditional outside linebacker and then blitz seehims a
Speaker 7: couple of times up the middle a little bit. He
Speaker 7: does seem a little light, but that also kind of dynamic,
Speaker 7: and it's tall enough to put some frame on him.
Speaker 7: And a couple of sacks that I saw in the
Speaker 7: game were like thirty seconds to go, game on the line,
Speaker 7: and he makes the play one against Texas, I think
Speaker 7: to win the game. But I'm just saying, we always
Speaker 7: say that's the type of pass pressure you really want
Speaker 7: when the games on the line, go make the play
Speaker 7: to win it.
Speaker 5: I'll say this real quick to my guy Voch Lombardi
Speaker 5: out there, who does some some fine work covering cow
Speaker 5: was He actually interviewed Will McDonald and one of the
Speaker 5: things that McDonald said was in talking to the Cowboys
Speaker 5: and Dan Quinn, his quote was, they want me to
Speaker 5: play all over like Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: So essentially, you bring in a guy like that that now.
Speaker 5: Has that flexibility where you can throw him at you
Speaker 5: can throw him off ball, you can put him on
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, you can have him rushing, you
Speaker 5: can have him playing a lot of different roles.
Speaker 2: That just gives you even more flexibility in.
Speaker 7: This I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna piggyback on what
Speaker 7: Amber said earlier. And you know, we've been saying it
Speaker 7: since since the end of the since halftime of the
Speaker 7: forty nine ers game. Like they have enough defensive guys
Speaker 7: to stop the forty nine ers from from scoring a
Speaker 7: lot of points and enough to win the game. They
Speaker 7: did not have enough playmakers. And I don't know if
Speaker 7: Brandon Cooks adding him to the mixes just solves the problem.
Speaker 7: I just think these defensive guys are sound great man
Speaker 7: you've got to fix the offensive playmaker.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right about that.
Speaker 8: And maybe maybe Cooks takes you out of like Zay
Speaker 8: Flowers from Boston College and Downs from North Carolina and
Speaker 8: Scott from Cincinnati. The shorter receivers. You've already got. How
Speaker 8: many shorter receivers do you want to add? If I
Speaker 8: could throw one more name out there. That and this
Speaker 8: is a guy that I'm not super super super high on,
Speaker 8: but there are a lot of people that are super high.
Speaker 3: You need to keep an eye on.
Speaker 8: Lucas van Ness, the Iowa defensive end, the edge from Iowa.
Speaker 8: I think there's some things about him that are really
Speaker 8: really good about him the way I feel like this.
Speaker 8: There's some pass rushing stuff. He's not a starter all
Speaker 8: the time, but the rotational stuff. He does play the
Speaker 8: run well enough. He's I worry a little bit about
Speaker 8: his strength. He is seventeen times with the weights for
Speaker 8: defensive end for an edge. I don't think it's great,
Speaker 8: but I know there's a big, big like about Lucas
Speaker 8: fan Ness edge from Iowa. Keep him in mind at
Speaker 8: twenty six if he gets down to Dallas at that spot.
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Speaker 5: It is the final segment of The Break Live from
Speaker 5: the s w BC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Draft
Speaker 5: starts tomorrow night, first round, and so we're going to
Speaker 5: end today's show by doing what we would normally do
Speaker 5: on a Friday heading into a game weekend. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: nail these guys down and make them tell you who
Speaker 5: exactly the Cowboys will pick with their first round selection
Speaker 5: on Thursday night.
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna tell you right now, because I like
Speaker 7: when we do our gut feeling on the game, I
Speaker 7: make sure it's the same pick I am. I am
Speaker 7: I'm subject to check.
Speaker 2: You got your envelope yet? Do you still get your envelope?
Speaker 7: Get envelope? That guy doesn't work here anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe he just knew somebody.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm getting envelopes anymore, and if so, I would
Speaker 7: open it. Dude you're talking about Yeah, he the guy
Speaker 7: a former scout used to give me an envelope, but
Speaker 7: he made sure that I didn't open it until after
Speaker 7: the draft.
Speaker 3: You were good about that too, I remember that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was right twice. He did that.
Speaker 2: He gives you long before, like, yeah, long before the draft.
Speaker 7: Yeah, ripping that thing open. Now, if I got an envelope, Oh, man.
Speaker 2: Who's the pick?
Speaker 7: You're on the clock, I'll say, I'll say Darnell, Right,
Speaker 7: I'll say the man.
Speaker 3: If if that happens, I'll kiss you.
Speaker 7: Seriously changing my pick.
Speaker 8: That's how happy I would be about it. Does he
Speaker 8: play yes everything everything you want to say? Yes, Yes,
Speaker 8: this is a better, more more athletic ron leery.
Speaker 7: This is a tough This is like a better and
Speaker 7: more athletic.
Speaker 9: This guy he's super like. He looks very buff, like
Speaker 9: you compare him to.
Speaker 8: The other three pounds.
Speaker 14: See.
Speaker 8: The thing about it is the problem you're going to
Speaker 8: run into and it's a great pick by you, Nick,
Speaker 8: it's a great pick.
Speaker 3: The problem is you can watch him play.
Speaker 8: Against Will Anderson from Alabama, who's probably going to go
Speaker 8: in the top five, wipe him out, bj Ojelari probably
Speaker 8: gonna go in the first round at LSU. Wipe him out.
Speaker 8: You know That's what I'm saying. He plays against and.
Speaker 7: Even where's the problem? Then?
Speaker 2: Where where is he he's going?
Speaker 3: He's going, he's gonna go. He's I got him at
Speaker 3: nineteen on my board.
Speaker 8: To me, I mean, I I from the minute I
Speaker 8: watched him play, I'm watching those those games where he's
Speaker 8: blocking those edge rushers, and I'm going.
Speaker 3: Well, he's not getting the twenty six. What am I
Speaker 3: doing here? Stop? Stop being an idiot.
Speaker 8: You know the tackle group is not I mean there's
Speaker 8: people might play this guy at tackle depending on I
Speaker 8: mean like Johnson from Ohio State, Jones from Georgia, right
Speaker 8: from Tennessee. Those are the three best tackles in the draft.
Speaker 8: And I'm talking about taking right and moving him to guard.
Speaker 7: Now, he's not going to twenty six.
Speaker 3: If he's at twenty six. That's why I said what
Speaker 3: I said you know, because they'll be there.
Speaker 8: I don't I don't think that, but yes, it's like
Speaker 8: one of those things where you know, like it slides
Speaker 8: to you there and and you're is on the b
Speaker 8: and like you say, he's the nineteenth all the tags
Speaker 8: are gone, he's the nineteenth best player, and you're like,
Speaker 8: that's who we're taking that guy.
Speaker 2: That's what would you be willing to trade up for him?
Speaker 5: Like, if he's that good and he's there at twenty one,
Speaker 5: would you be willing to trade up for him?
Speaker 2: Because here's what I love about it.
Speaker 3: I love the guy.
Speaker 5: What I love about the idea is I look at
Speaker 5: this team and they have the offensive line and slipped
Speaker 5: from where it was years ago when they had a
Speaker 5: dominant offensive line. If you go back to back first rounders,
Speaker 5: you're now rebuilding that and your center's playing.
Speaker 2: Better than you maybe thought he was, and Steel is
Speaker 2: better than you thought he was.
Speaker 5: You now are on the cusp of actually having that
Speaker 5: sort of dominant line again, and they're gonna be primarily
Speaker 5: young guys.
Speaker 2: So I would love that.
Speaker 8: If you could make it happen. Is that worth you
Speaker 8: moving up? It would be worth it to me that
Speaker 8: you know there are guys. I understand, you know, understand
Speaker 8: not trading up for the back.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 8: I'm trying to fill a position right now. I like
Speaker 8: Torrents and Ovula, and I like the those guys. Don't
Speaker 8: get me wrong, but man, if you gave me a
Speaker 8: shot to drive, because I know this about right if
Speaker 8: if something were to happen at right tackle again, he
Speaker 8: goes play right tackle for you. You know, he's that
Speaker 8: type of he is a mean, nasty eliminator of people.
Speaker 7: Where it does Darnell? I love that eliminator of people.
Speaker 3: He did, he eliminated.
Speaker 8: Everybody's talking about what they don't show one highlight of
Speaker 8: Will Anderson rushing against Tennessee. I guarantee you bean pulled
Speaker 8: it up right now, You're not going to see Will
Speaker 8: Anderson rush against Tennessee.
Speaker 7: That's awesome, Because where did Darnell write pliminated, eliminated two years?
Speaker 7: Where does he play in twenty twenty four twenty?
Speaker 3: I want?
Speaker 8: I want, I don't move him, I play him? I mean, okay,
Speaker 8: depending on what's happening at right tackle. And they're they're
Speaker 8: they're kind of giving these mixed signals about you know
Speaker 8: where you know where Tyron Smith is going to play.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I've admitted it.
Speaker 2: I'm wrong.
Speaker 8: I'm wrong about Steel like him at right tackle him
Speaker 8: and Moran.
Speaker 9: How come he wasn't part of your three?
Speaker 13: Then?
Speaker 3: Which one? Because I don't think he's gonna be there.
Speaker 2: I think I don't think he's.
Speaker 3: Going to be there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I would say b Jeon Robinson. I don't think he's
Speaker 3: gonna be there.
Speaker 7: Who's your guy?
Speaker 3: I told you, I told you who I think. I
Speaker 3: feel like it. It's gonna be one of those tight ends.
Speaker 8: It's gonna be if Mayor goes to say the commanders
Speaker 8: at sixteen, that's gonna send. I mean the Cowboy war
Speaker 8: room is going to go yeah, yeah, I think yeah.
Speaker 8: Because they want King Kay. I think they want King Kaid.
Speaker 8: So that's the But if Kinkaid goes first and then
Speaker 8: it's Mayor, now all bets are off. It's Sanders, it's McDonald,
Speaker 8: it's others that are kind.
Speaker 3: Of in the mix.
Speaker 7: Now Forbes, is he too high?
Speaker 3: Is that tight?
Speaker 8: And I just threw him and I threw I threw
Speaker 8: van Ness in there both as guys that I kind
Speaker 8: of feel like the room might like better.
Speaker 3: Again, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not not talking to anybody in about
Speaker 8: I'm just that's how I kind of feel like that
Speaker 8: they're looking at this thing.
Speaker 2: Who's your pick?
Speaker 10: I'm gonna stick to you an no lineman here really
Speaker 10: did a whole spill about right, He's a great option.
Speaker 10: I mentioned Avila, which I think he can still be
Speaker 10: available at that point, and I think he can still
Speaker 10: help you a whole lot this year. I know Torrance
Speaker 10: is a guy that's been talked about as well. I'm
Speaker 10: not a huge fan, just because I don't think he
Speaker 10: has the right size yet to be that guy that
Speaker 10: comes in year one and gives you what you need.
Speaker 10: I think he would need to develop and go into
Speaker 10: year two gain some weight and strength in that aspect.
Speaker 10: So I'm not a huge fan, but I know he's
Speaker 10: been talked about. I just think personally, I hope obviously
Speaker 10: there are those star players like Robinson, but other than that,
Speaker 10: I'm looking for an a lightman because I think that.
Speaker 9: You really need it this year.
Speaker 5: All Right, Well, I'm just gonna say it for the record,
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna manifest B.
Speaker 2: John Robinson will be there. He will be Oh, yes,
Speaker 2: we will. We will have a huge party.
Speaker 5: But I'm just gonna keep thinking he's gonna be there,
Speaker 5: and somehow, some way he's gonna drop all the twenty
Speaker 5: six and Dallas is gonna run up there with the
Speaker 5: car and this offense is I just hope, he said.
Speaker 8: I hope your heart's not broken it at Howie Rosman
Speaker 8: and those guys will be giants, will be giants.
Speaker 3: The giants bail, the giants bail. And because Philly knows,
Speaker 3: you're sitting on the guy, Philly.
Speaker 8: Knows it's like a need, it's not really I mean,
Speaker 8: Philly sees the value in the player.
Speaker 2: Everybody does that does not Philly.
Speaker 5: There are lots of teams that are gonna be sitting
Speaker 5: there thinking, hey, he's down there.
Speaker 2: Everybody's thinking, how do we jump up?
Speaker 5: And that makes whoever's at the twenty third, twenty fourth,
Speaker 5: twenty fifth pick, it makes them opportunity. It gives him
Speaker 5: opportunity to be able to trade back because there's gonna
Speaker 5: be a lot of teams that are thinking like that
Speaker 5: if he gets that far.
Speaker 2: So it's probably not likely, but I'm.
Speaker 5: Just prayerful that that maybe, just maybe the Cowboys picked
Speaker 5: this guy up and because I do think it would
Speaker 5: make a big difference for this offense if you get
Speaker 5: somebody like him involved.
Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate you guys. Jones.
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