1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. So 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 1: and ahead, he got jacked. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: This is the big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: Sacked again Koalis Campbell slammed the ground by Budda Baker 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 3: like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: The rage is brought to you by Emergency Air. The 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: difference is we care. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: What to grab by Trainmick Bright That was spectacular. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: And by Arizona Cardinals podcast visit Azycardinals dot Com slash podcast. 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: All Red Seeds Rising up, jimp but you rising vision 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: blurring rage, take it over. 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 5: Here's Paul Calvic. 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: And Ron Wolfley, it doesn't get any better than that. 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 5: Wolf I'm gonna need a little help here. I got 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 5: an honest question right off the top. What do you 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 5: get an all time Arizona Cardinal who has basically achieved 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 5: everything hashtag winning at life and has seemingly been everywhere? 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: You know what? 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 5: I got it? I got it? What wait for it? 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 5: Because it has been a five year weight you know what? 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 5: You get him a gold jacket? That's what? 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: Well, Paully, I was gonna say a West Virginia. 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 5: Hat unless you want to get punched, because you know what, 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: for as well dressed as Larry is, and boy Larry 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 5: was always best dressed on those Cardinal road trips back 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 5: in the day, he doesn't have a gold jacket, not 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: quite yet. As we welcome you in to the Big 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Emergency Here Paul calvic Ron Wolfley, 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 5: soon to be joined by a longtime voice of the 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals, Dave Pash, basically came into the NFL with 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 5: Larry Fitzgerald. We'll talk to Dave Pash about fits Hof. 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 5: In fact, you know what the Big Red Rage landscape. Yes, Larry, 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 5: we're gonna talk about the Hall of Fame. We're getting 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 5: into Mike Lafleoor. We're gonna go across enemy lines here 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 5: from a couple La rams about Mike Lafloor and will 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 5: have a sit down or Danny Sirek in exclusive one 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 5: on one with Mike Lafleur and then Super Bowl talk. 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: Wolf has some opinions and thoughts I'm not sure I 41 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 5: really want out. We'll entertain those as well. So Wolf, 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 5: give us your reaction, just initial reaction when there's Larry 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: up on the stage NFL Honors and like Kurt said, 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: a career cardinal getting honored. 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul for me right now. I just I know 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: that I'm biased. I know we all are a little 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: bit when it comes to Larry Fitzgerald, But as I 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: was watching it, I just don't think there could be 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: a better guy to actually be a first ballot Hall 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: of Famer. I don't care if you're a player, I 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: don't care if you're a coach. I'm talking about a 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: first ballot guy. When I think of Mary Fitzgerald, the 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: player that he was, the way that he played, how 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: he went about his business, the class act that he 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: was on the field and off the field, and just 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: how prolific he was. And yet never really had a 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: Joe Montana and a Steve Young, if you know what 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean, had the Gray Beard, had Carson Palmer, had 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, of course, but it wasn't like he had him. 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: For thirteen of those seventeen years he did not, and 61 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: yet he still posted Hall of Fame numbers incredible. 62 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 6: No doubt. 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: Just I mean, look, if sports is entertainment, Larry would 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 5: win an Oscar for Best Drama right in those biggest moments. 65 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: He was always at his best. Some of the greatest 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 5: catches he would make in preseason games or in practice. Man, 67 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: you know, I just his competitive fire, the example he 68 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 5: set for everyone else. And to your point about he 69 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 5: would interrupt with everyone. He seemingly knew everyone. You know, 70 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: he'd be down. I remember down to the sideline in Atlanta, 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 5: He's talking to a thirteen year old ball boy because 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: that's what he did for the Vikings. And then moments later, 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: Arthur Blank, the CEO of Home Depot, came over and 74 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 5: started talking to Larry. He just he could schmooze with 75 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 5: anyone and everyone. So when we saw him up on stage, 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 5: I think everyone in Arizona just felt that pride. And 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 5: then conversely, yeah, Larry was asked in NFL honors. You 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 5: know just what the Cardinals and the state of Arizona 79 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 5: has meant to him. 80 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 7: You know, for somebody to be able to stay in 81 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 7: one place for that long, you know, it's not always 82 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 7: the player's choice. You know, there's I played for two 83 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 7: general managers, I played for four different head coaches, you know, 84 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 7: so like any one of those points, they could have said, hey, 85 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 7: we can move on. And I told Michael how much 86 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 7: I appreciated him just believing in me, you know, even 87 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 7: when my skills started diminishing, and still found me, you know, 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 7: to be valuable enough to stay on the team, you know, 89 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 7: later in my career. 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 6: And you know that that means a lot. 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 7: And obviously the community of Arizona, what they've done in 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 7: terms of poring into me, it has been an unbelievable 93 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 7: journey and one that I'm just so so thankful for. 94 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 5: That's an interesting comment from Larry. I'm not sure we've 95 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 5: heard before where he acknowledged, Okay, you know he had diminishing, 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 5: declining skills at the end, had to sort of reinvent 97 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 5: himself in a way as a receiver. I thought that 98 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 5: was interesting. 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauly, no, I agree with that. But what's amazing 100 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: about that just listening to you and listening to Larry 101 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: and the fact that you said in big moments, Larry 102 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: always seemed to step up in big moments. And you 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: know why, Polly. I think even when Larry was covered, 104 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: he was open. Yep, throw the ball, he'll catch it, 105 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: He'll go get it. Even when he was covered, he 106 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: was open. And I think a lot of the quarterbacks 107 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: that played with Larry Fitzgerald really came to realize that 108 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: truth that even if he's covered, throwing the ball in 109 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Larry's incredible catch radius and his ability to go attack 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: the pig and stab it out of the air, it 111 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: was going to come through. And I think it's one 112 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: of the reasons why in big moments, quarterbacks were not 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: hesitant at all to throw the ball to Larry even 114 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: when he was covered. Yep. 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 5: And look, we could do a whole show on his 116 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 5: stats in his career numbers and all that, but look, 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: the hands arguably the best hands in the history of football. 118 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 5: I mean they put him in commercials. He caught a 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 5: lot more than Football's right, He's catching everything in those commercials. 120 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 5: That's how legendary they were. 121 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just love it, man, Larry couldn't have been 122 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: a better guy. PAULI to go in on the first ballot. 123 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 5: No doubt, and he knows his football history and he's 124 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 5: still a huge fan of the team. In fact, you know, 125 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 5: he talked about seeing the recent news Mike Laflor hired 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: as the Cardinals next head coach, and he comes from 127 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: the Rams last three years offensive coordinator under Sean McVay. 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 5: Really close with Pooka Nikua, for example, and I fully 129 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 5: expect Michael Wilson to be Pooka nikooa light in this offense, 130 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: by the way, but there was Mike Lafleur, and he 131 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 5: who was asked Pokole was asked about his former OC, 132 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 5: a new Cardinal's head coach with Kay Adams on up 133 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: in Adams recently, Hey Arizona hiring your OC. 134 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 8: Everybody's trying to steal from the coach mcvatree. 135 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, it you. 136 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: Every year, But what do they get him? 137 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 9: Mister Mike lafore. 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 8: Coach Lefores is an absolute dog. I'm like, there's nobody. 139 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 8: I called him as soon as I saw the news 140 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 8: and we started a good moment. And he's a competitor 141 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 8: and in every which way when we walk out there. 142 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 8: He asked me before every single practice if I still 143 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 8: love it, and I hope he knows that I do, 144 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 8: and I know that he does too. But there's somebody 145 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 8: who's been by my side through the ups and the 146 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 8: downs that I call him every time I face him, 147 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 8: and me and his son are are really good friends. 148 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 8: He's the best. I'm like, his family has been awesome 149 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 8: to me. We spend time in Hawaii's he's got me games. 150 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 8: I showed him a couple of meals that he should 151 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 8: have in Hawaii every time he goes. So I'm sad 152 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 8: that I have to beat him up for two times 153 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 8: a year, but I'm sure we'll still be friends after. 154 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: Oh okay, calling the shut over there. By the way, 155 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 5: note to self, never call him Mikey. That's not that's 156 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: not gonna happen. Not call him Mikey. I'll tell you what. 157 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: It's interesting because we know the legacy of coaches under 158 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 5: Sean McVay who have gone on to greatness, and we 159 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 5: could do a whole show on that as well. Here's 160 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 5: Sean McVay recently talking about always having to replace his assistance. 161 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 9: We got a lot of great coaches in house, but 162 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 9: our job is to continuously build, and it's like putting 163 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 9: together a team. You know, your coaching staff, and we've 164 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 9: had a lot of reps at it for a lot 165 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 9: of the right reasons. But I am excited about diving 166 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 9: in and it never fails. Every time and my wife 167 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 9: go on vacation, somebody's usually getting a head job, and 168 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 9: then I'm spending too much time on my phone. 169 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: That really is incredible though, when you stop and think 170 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: of how many offensive coordinators, specifically Paul he is lost. 171 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's truly incredible when you think about it. 172 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are where is he finding these 173 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: guys that are stepping right in as coordinators and doing 174 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: the kind of job that they're doing. I'man at some 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: point in time, that coaching tree has got to thin out, 176 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: doesn't it, Paul. 177 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it's Matt Lafleur, it's Kevin O'Connell, it's Liam Cohen, 178 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 5: Zach Taylor was a quarterbacks coach. He's been to a 179 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: Super Bowl with Cincinnati. I know Michael Laflour was talking about. 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: Then you go through the Kyle Shanahan tree, guys like 181 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald, right, it was just recently the head coach 182 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 5: and play caller for the Miami Dolphins. Obviously. What's intriguing 183 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: to me, though, is Lafour follows it up by saying, 184 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 5: the foundation to those schemes are all very similar nuts 185 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 5: and bolts McVeigh and Shanahan. But what each and every 186 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 5: coach has done, and this has enabled their success, is 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: the McVeigh and Shanahan are firm believers. You have to 188 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 5: structure the offensive identity to your roster. Yeah, it's gotta 189 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: fit the players. The players are gonna dictate. So the 190 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 5: good news Wolf, when we've seen this before, different teams, 191 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 5: different coaches, where you have one scheme that you know 192 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 5: really well, well, if you don't have a roster that 193 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 5: fits your scheme, you're at a competitive disadvantage. That's not 194 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: Mike Laflor. I think he's dead set on He's gonna 195 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 5: figure out what does he have in terms of personnel 196 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: that's gonna dictate his scheme. 197 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think you're right on that, Paully. Now 198 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, again, coming from the tree that he does, 199 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna have preferences. I'm sure you know 200 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: the the zone scheme by way of example, I think 201 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: that would be a preference for Mike Laflor. Could be 202 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: wrong on that, Polly, but I don't think so. What 203 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: I love about Mike Lafleur in the coaching tree comes 204 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: from they believe you have to be whatever you need 205 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: to be in order to feat your opponent. And I 206 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: love that. 207 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: Hey, just over a week away February twenty first Cardinals 208 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 5: climb Wolf is participating He's got a team. Go to 209 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: cardinalsclimb dot com. How about Dave Pash, Voice of the Cardinals. 210 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 5: Next on the Big Red Rage presented by an emergency. 211 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: Air, Palmer takes the snaff play action pass. Palmer's setting up. 212 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: He's in trouble. He's hit, gets out of there, rolls right, 213 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: grows back to the left fences. 214 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: Why not in fun of the thirty five moments there 215 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: he's in the fording of the fifth. 216 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: He turns the field of the forty five. 217 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: Put the corning thirty five stick, I'm thirty. 218 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 10: Twenty five twenty fits to the near. 219 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: Side, ten to the five and tackle there. 220 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: Parson Palmer somehow got out of trouble. 221 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: Oh baby, Carson Palmer doing a whirly bird in the 222 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: pocket and Saul Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of 223 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: the field, and then Larry Fitzgerald the legend to go 224 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: over and did the rest second down and go with 225 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: the five. 226 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: They can win it with a touchdown snap. The Palmer 227 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: rolls off and it's a pitch to fifth Runnicks right 228 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 3: ahead head of the hands. 229 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: Down the shovel pas and it touchdown. 230 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 11: Of the wind. 231 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 12: But Cardinals it dance to the NFC Championship game. 232 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: On a shovel pass, of all things, and one of. 233 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: The craziest games ever knows, winning it overtime twenty six 234 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: to twenty. 235 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: Put your heads in the air, head, step away from 236 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: the football, Larry Fitzgerald, not the shuttle pass. 237 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: What an incredible call. 238 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: And if I may say so, because I know the 239 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: Red Sea, the Bird Gang echoes this thought. An incredible 240 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 5: call times two on the play sheet and in the 241 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 5: radio booth as we get Ron Wolfley and Dave Pash 242 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 5: packed together here the band's back together on the Big 243 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 5: Red Rage, presented by Emergency Air Paul CALVC with you 244 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 5: and I mean, look, I literally get chills to some 245 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 5: degree listening to you guys. How about when you guys 246 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 5: listen to yourselves in the magnitude of the moment in 247 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 5: that one. By the way, Dave, welcome, Welcome into the 248 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 5: Big Red Rage. 249 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 12: How you doing, Hello, boys, gonna talk to you, how 250 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 12: about it? 251 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: What I gotta say, Polly for myself just listening to it. 252 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: The thing that absolutely blows my mind to this day 253 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: is pass actually called the stiff arm, the stiff arm 254 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: that was in that. I mean, I gotta tell you, 255 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: and he did it without even bad and I to 256 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: me one of the greatest calls I've ever heard. David 257 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: go ahead and lay down on radio in He's had 258 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: many of them as well. 259 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 5: So Dave, considering you guys were both in your twenties 260 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 5: when you started with the Cardinals, what was your reaction 261 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 5: to Larry Fitzgerald had his name announced last week NFL Honors, right, 262 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: and he's now a Hall of Famer. 263 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 12: Well, thrilled obviously for fits and what he embodies goes 264 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 12: beyond the football field. We all saw that up close 265 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 12: and personal with Larry. The thing that I always appreciated 266 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 12: about Larry that people outside the organization never got to see, 267 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 12: is well, you'd be in the meal, you'd watch Larry 268 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 12: Fitzgerald kind of go from table to table over the 269 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 12: course of the season. You know, one day for lunch, 270 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 12: he's sitting with his teammates. The next game he's sitting 271 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 12: with us, the next game he's sitting with the training staff, 272 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 12: the doctors. He made you feel like you were part 273 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 12: of the team, not just part of the organization. And 274 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 12: you know, he's got a great relationship. Like I saw 275 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 12: the other day he tweeted about Mark Dalton and the 276 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 12: relationship that they have. I think Larry has that relationship 277 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 12: with a lot of people that don't necessarily touch the 278 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 12: football on game day. And yes, he's in the Hall 279 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 12: of Fame because of what he did on the field. 280 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 12: He's one of the greatest receivers to ever play. But again, 281 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 12: those of us that got to see it up close 282 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 12: and personal, how he interacted with all of us, how 283 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 12: we interacted with people, whether they own the team or 284 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 12: were at the bottom of the food chain. He treated 285 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 12: everybody with respect, He treated everybody the same. He made 286 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 12: you feel part of it. And that is what to me, 287 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 12: a franchise player, a franchise changing type player is all about. 288 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 12: And that's why Larry Fitzgerald, you know, he's could be 289 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 12: in many halls of Fame, and I think we all 290 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 12: appreciate the type of person that Larry is. 291 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think Paully for the most part, when 292 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: I make Larry Fitzgerald, his superpower was definitely his humility. 293 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: This is something that I've talked about in the past 294 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: with you. I know both you guys know I feel 295 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: this way, but it's so true, the humility as a player. 296 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying he was walking around and he 297 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: didn't know who he was. Larry was well aware he 298 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: was one of the best receivers in the National Football 299 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: League and a future Hall of Famer. But his humility 300 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: as a player, it allowed him to look at himself 301 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: with a jaundice eye. It allowed him to look at 302 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: himself and say, where do I need to get better? 303 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: And he was always trying to get better as a 304 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: football player, as a man, as a wide receiver in 305 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: the National Football League. And it's because of his humility, 306 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: and even right down to taking the ball. Every time 307 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: he'd catch a touchdown pass, what did he do with it? 308 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: Save for one? Yeah, what did he do? What did 309 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: he do with the pollie? He handed it to the zebras. 310 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 5: Look really well said by both you guys. I was 311 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 5: and we could talk about the numbers, a lot of 312 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 5: the obvious stuff. I love those insights from two guys 313 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 5: who saw Larry behind the scenes as well. I was 314 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 5: talking the other day about Look, there were different iterations 315 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 5: of Larry Fitzgerald over a seventeen year career. To me, 316 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: there was one trick Pony Larry early in his career. 317 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 5: Then there was after Todd Haley and Ken Wizena. You know, 318 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 5: yards after catch. There was the guy went from X 319 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 5: receiver outside receiver to the slot because of BA. There 320 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: was the guy who Wolf used to call the best 321 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 5: blocking receiver on the planet. Larry never liked that, by 322 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: the way, did not like. And then there was playoff 323 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 5: Larry twousand and eight, two thousand and nine, twenty fifteen. 324 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 5: We just heard, I mean, Dave for everything that Larry did, 325 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: and you called more than fourteen hundred catches and more 326 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: than seventeen thousand receiving yards by Larry Fitzgerald. Was it 327 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: that two thousand and eight postseason that is most memorable? 328 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 12: Well, first of all, there are a lot of things 329 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 12: Wolf said that Larry didn't like, including nickname. 330 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 5: That's right. 331 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 12: Yes, I think Larry had a running total of everybody 332 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 12: that in the organization that had witnessed every snap. Because 333 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 12: I fell off that list, I missed. I had to 334 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 12: miss the second half of the end of the Cardinals 335 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 12: Rams game maybe years ago to do a Lakers game, 336 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 12: which which by the way, was the last game that 337 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 12: Kobe Bryant attended before he passed away. So I remember 338 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 12: that in great detail, along with the fact I had 339 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 12: to miss the card those regular season snatched for the 340 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 12: first time. But I'd think about that two thousand and 341 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 12: eight postseason because we all knew. I remember Larry came 342 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 12: and he's twenty years old, and you mentioned kind of 343 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 12: how he got pushed by the Ken wizen Hunt coaching 344 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 12: staff and Todd Haley to grow as a receiver, and 345 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 12: you never know how guys are going to take that. 346 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 12: You know, he was already pretty accomplished at that point. 347 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 12: He had put up a lot of good numbers, but 348 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 12: doing it into the postseason is a different thing. And 349 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 12: those guys pushed him, and he obviously accepted that and 350 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 12: was willing to be pushed. And then that twenty eight 351 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 12: postseason was the greatest on record for an NFL receiver, 352 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 12: and it got better the twenty fifteen you guys just played, 353 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 12: you know, to be seven years removed from that great run, 354 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 12: which was capped by the touchdown run in the Super 355 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 12: Bowl running away from the defense looking at the jumbo tron, 356 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 12: to then have the moment that he had, or actually 357 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 12: the two moments that you played in twenty fifteen to 358 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 12: get the Cardinals to another NFC have your game, and 359 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 12: that's what legends are about. That's where these guys are judged. 360 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 12: How you do in the biggest games and the biggest moments, 361 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 12: and Larry Fitzgerald always met. 362 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: Those moments, you know. For me, Paully, can I also 363 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: just jump in here and you mentioned BA, and I'm 364 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: thinking about Bruce arians his first year, and there they are, 365 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: they're out there in training camp and they're practicing at 366 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: their practicing on the field, and I remember BA specifically 367 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: chewing out Larry Fitzgerald in front of the team, chewing 368 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: his butt because he didn't get a block on twenty 369 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: two and twenty three double. Remember, oh, remember how big 370 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: that was. BA really was big on twenty two and 371 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: twenty three double and Larry, here's Larry Fitzgerald, one of 372 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: the best wide receivers in the history of the National 373 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Football League, at least in the making at that point 374 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: in time, getting his butt sheed by BA for not 375 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: getting a block on that play. And it just goes 376 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: to show you who Larry Fitzgerald is all about, because 377 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that was a situation where if BIA 378 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: could chew Larry, he could chew anybody. 379 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 6: No doubt. 380 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 5: All Right, So the guy who's on a first name 381 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 5: basis with the state of Arizona is now first ballot 382 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: Hall of Famer Larry Fitzgerald. Let's talk about the first 383 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 5: year head coach in Mike Lafleur, who was named recently. 384 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 5: Dave Pasch is our guest here in the Big Red 385 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 5: Rage presented by Emergency. Here nearly a quarter century is 386 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: the voice of the Cardinals. Give us your take, your thoughts. 387 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 5: What stood out about the naming of Mike Lafleur is 388 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 5: a Cardinals next head coach? 389 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 12: Well, first, Paulie. You look at his resume and he's 390 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 12: been around a lot of successful people, whether it's his brother, 391 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 12: Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan. Those are the most successful offensive 392 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 12: coaches right now in pro football, and he has been 393 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 12: around them. He has called plays, He's called plays a 394 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 12: couple times for the Rams, and he's been on winning teams. 395 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 12: I loved his press conference. I heard you talk about 396 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 12: him with Larry Fitzgerald. That was one thing that really 397 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 12: stood out to me was listening to him. He was 398 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 12: genuinely thrilled about the opportunity to be an NFL head coach, 399 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 12: to be with this organization. I thought it came from 400 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 12: the heart. He even said going into it, this is 401 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 12: going to come from the heart. You could tell how 402 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 12: much it meant to him to have his family there, 403 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 12: and man, that's refreshing. It's really refreshing to hear. So 404 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 12: I'm really excited for what the future holds. I think 405 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 12: he's going to put together a very hungry staff. I 406 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 12: think you're going to see you've already seen it based 407 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 12: on some of the reports that we've seen, with a 408 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 12: mix of veterans, and I'm sure there'll be some young 409 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 12: guys in there as well. But I think based on 410 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 12: all of the people that he is connected to, he 411 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 12: is going to work extremely hard to grow in this 412 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 12: role and be successful. 413 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: You know what I love about it as well, David, 414 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: is the fact that, again you mentioned Sean McVeigh, the 415 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: Sean McVay coaching trade. I love the fact that he 416 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: comes from that tree because I think it is special. 417 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: I really do. And when you look at some of 418 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinators that Sean McVay has lost, it's truly 419 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: amazing that the rams are still as good as they are, 420 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: and it really speaks to who Sean McVay is and 421 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: what he's all about. I also like the fact that 422 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: it's taking one of the coordinators from the Rams, because 423 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: at some point in time, Sean, you're a human being. 424 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: At some point in time, you're going to get a 425 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: dud as a coordinator, whether it's defense or you're going 426 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: to get a dud at that position. And I like 427 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: the fact that you've got to force Sean McVay to 428 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: look for another offensive coordinator. And then, lastly, let me 429 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: just say this, guys, I love the fact that Mike 430 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: laflor has knowledge of the NFC West. You are talking 431 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: about the absolute best division in the football universe. The teams, 432 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: the coaches, the players. Mike Lafleur is has got intimate 433 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: knowledge of these guys, who they are and what they 434 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: like to do. And I think that is a benefit 435 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. 436 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 5: Hey, last week in the Big Red Rage, we had 437 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: DeMarco Farr Rams radio analyst. He was really bullish on 438 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 5: Mike Lafleur said he is a Sean McVay type in 439 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 5: the making, and then saluted him for installing the offense 440 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 5: and calling a lot of the game against the Cardinals 441 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: week fourteen, where the Rams put up forty five and oh, 442 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 5: by the way, the last two games of Rams against 443 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 5: the Seahawks defense. They put up over four hundred and 444 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: then five hundred total yards. So to your point, Wolf, 445 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 5: it's nice to have that knowledge of the division. And 446 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 5: it's always nice to have day Pass join us here 447 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: on the Big Red Page. Dave enjoyed the offseason thanks 448 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 5: to the insight. As always, I know Wolf will call 449 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 5: you later and he'll talk about how he didn't get 450 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 5: any sleep last night. 451 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 12: Okay, all right, fellas, all right, get it doctor. 452 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 11: Yeh. 453 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 5: There we continue with a Big Red Rage presented by 454 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 5: Emergency Aircas. 455 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 13: We went through the interview process. The clear winner was 456 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 13: Mike Lafleur. He's ready for this. He's innovative, he's smart, 457 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 13: he's been training under the brightest offensive coaches in the 458 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 13: NFC West and arguably in the NFL, and we're super 459 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 13: excited about all the things that he's going to bring. 460 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 11: Let's be real, I mean, this is a bottom line business, period. 461 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 11: This business's cutthroat. It's about wins and losses. The one 462 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 11: thing we're not going to talk about is what happens 463 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 11: in February and in January and even in December. I'm 464 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 11: not even worried about the first game in September right now. 465 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 11: I'm worried about getting relationships with these guys, building the 466 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 11: best staff we can, improving the roster because we owe 467 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 11: it to these guys to do that, and then getting 468 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 11: going with them. 469 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 5: And there were nearly two dozen Cardinals players in the 470 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 5: back of the auditorium for the introductory press conference. Michael 471 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 5: Lafleur as introduced by team owner Michael Bidwell. It's the 472 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 5: Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air Special thanks once 473 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 5: again to day Pash. We're gonna hear from Michael lafour 474 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 5: sit down with our Danny Sirek, Paul calvic, Ron, Wolfley 475 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 5: and wolf. He said it it's about winning games, period. Yeah, 476 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 5: there is such a thing as winning the press conference. 477 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 5: And I'd say that Miche Lafleur's career record right now 478 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 5: as a head coaches one to zero. I thought. I 479 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 5: thought he did a I mean a spectacular job of 480 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 5: just being himself. There was no script. He was honest, 481 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 5: he was capable. I think he was earnest. I think 482 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 5: it resonated, he was energetic. I know Dave Pash mentioned 483 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 5: a lot of the same. I mean, maybe just give 484 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 5: us your initial takeaways. You played for a lot of 485 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: different coaches. You've been in a lot of different coaching 486 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 5: press conferences. I don't know what stood out to you 487 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 5: the most. 488 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, Paul, it really was the first ten minutes. 489 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Did what did Michael Lafleur do the first ten minutes 490 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: of its press conference? Thanked everybody that has ever poured 491 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: in to him. True, he even brought up Robert Salad. Yeah, 492 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: which it was pretty surprising to me. Yet at the 493 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: same time, he sat there and he took about ten 494 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: minutes of that press conference and it was his first 495 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: remarks and thanked all the people that had allowed him 496 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: to get to the point that he is at. I just, Paul, 497 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: a heart of gratitude. There is something about that. It 498 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: is strength in a human being to be able to 499 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: have a heart of gratitude and take all of that 500 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: time to acknowledge everybody else when here he is at 501 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: a press conference where you know what, coach, this is 502 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: all about you, This is all about you being the 503 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. And he took 504 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: the first ten minutes of that to talk about everybody else. 505 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 5: He's got to do that to me hit me like 506 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: a ton of bricks, And you know, what to your point. 507 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 5: He joked with us on the radio side that he 508 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 5: looked down at one point during the press conference in 509 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: the front row and he saw his wife and kids, 510 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 5: he saw his parents, saw his big brother. He's a thought, 511 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 5: I felt like I was at my wedding right. So 512 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 5: he's got he's got a good sense of humor. You know, 513 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 5: he's good in the moment. He also said he had 514 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 5: a moment during the Southern California wildfires the playoffs twenty 515 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 5: twenty four season when that game was moved to State 516 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 5: Farm Stadium, and speaking of gratitude, he thanked the Cardinals 517 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 5: and Michael Bidwell for stepping right up and hosting that 518 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 5: game on very short notice. And he said he had 519 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 5: a premonition walking around the building that he was going 520 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 5: to be head coach of the Arizona Cardinals one day 521 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 5: that he told his wife just that, So that was 522 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 5: very intriguing. And for more, our Danny Sirek sat down 523 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 5: with the Cardinals new head coach Mike lafor for a 524 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: little Q and A. 525 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 14: You've had success as an offensive coordinator in New York. 526 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 14: Garrett Wilson had one thousand yards receiving as a rookie 527 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 14: most recently in LA, you led the most prolific offense 528 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 14: in the NFL, averaging neiling four hundred yards and thirty 529 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 14: points a game. What elements as a coach are transferable 530 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 14: to Arizona regardless of personnel. 531 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, well we got players here, There's no doubt. 532 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 15: I mean again, I've been in this division for seven years. 533 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 11: Obviously roster's changed a year and a year out, but 534 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 11: playing this team this year, just talking about the offense, 535 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 11: there's players there, you know, and well, there's foundational aspects 536 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 11: of what we'll do offensively that are very similar to 537 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 11: New York, that are very similar to LA. But it'll 538 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 11: be fit around these guys. You know, you talk about Marvin, 539 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 11: Michael and obviously Trey you know, I mean, people die 540 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 11: to be able to work with those guys, and we'll 541 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 11: continue to elevate this roster and put them in his 542 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 11: position to be successful. 543 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 14: You've coached a handful of playmakers and Matt Ryan one 544 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 14: MVP when you were in Atlanta, Matthew Stafford, George Kittle. 545 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 14: You mentioned your three headed monster and Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, 546 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 14: and Marvin Harrison Junior. Let's turn in in that offensive 547 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 14: mine of yours. When thinking about your new g oh, 548 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 14: I just. 549 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 11: Want to get working with them, you know, because they 550 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 11: are I mean, they're and then they're good dudes. 551 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 8: You know. 552 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 11: When I came here for the interview, I walk right 553 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 11: through that front door, right into the cafeteria, and the 554 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 11: first three people that were there were those three, And 555 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 11: I said, this is a great omen right here, because 556 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 11: they're in here in the off season. 557 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 6: It's February, let alone April, and they. 558 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 11: Were the three getting breakfast, hanging out together, getting ready 559 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 11: to go to work. 560 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 15: So it's gonna be fun. We're gonna get thin, you know, 561 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 15: this staff together. We're going to evaluate this roster and 562 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 15: figure out. 563 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 6: How we can add even more pieces to it. 564 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 14: Well, qualities in a quarnerback best fit your scheme. 565 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, Guys that can process and rip through you know, progressions. 566 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 11: But more importantly than that, just toughness. I mean to 567 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 11: be able to sit back there. Not everyone's going to 568 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 11: throw the same. You want what we call natural throwers. 569 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 11: What does that mean? Does it look right right? Does 570 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 11: it come out you know, on time? And all that 571 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 11: ripping through the progressions, like I said, But ultimately they 572 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 11: play in the pocket. 573 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 6: They got to be tough. 574 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 11: And you know, the guys that you just talked about, 575 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 11: Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford, two the best really to 576 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 11: ever do it. 577 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 14: We've learned from two of the most creative minds coaching 578 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 14: football today. And Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan. What have 579 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 14: those two taught you about what it takes to win? 580 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 6: You know? 581 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 11: I mean there's that'd be countless, you know, and we 582 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 11: could go on for hours on that. But the thing 583 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 11: that stands out to me with both of those guys 584 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 11: that I really took right right off the rip in 585 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 11: twenty fourteen with Kyle as an offensive coordinator in Cleveland, 586 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 11: it's just daily urgency, like like we to go. 587 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 6: This league doesn't wait for anyone. 588 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: Now. 589 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 15: We're gonna thoroughly and thoughtfully, you know. 590 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 6: Do what we got to do. 591 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 11: But it's got to get done, and we got to move, 592 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 11: you know, and we got to have a bounce in. 593 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 6: Our step when we go. And when we do that, man, 594 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 6: the players file suit with it, you know. 595 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 11: So again, this league doesn't wait. The fan bases don't 596 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 11: want to wait. We understand that that's the league we 597 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 11: signed up for. That's what makes it so cool. 598 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 5: You know, that's the most popular question, obviously to Michael Laflores, 599 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 5: What have you learned the most from McVeigh and Shanahan 600 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 5: And rightfully so. And he uses that word urgency now 601 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 5: he has elaborated on that a little bit. Wolf to say, 602 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 5: it means you have to have the urgency to make 603 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 5: sure you're staying ahead, staying ahead schematically, staying ahead in 604 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 5: your physical conditioning, big picture in the off season, make 605 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 5: sure you're evolving, you know, to your players, and evolving 606 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 5: with the rest of the league. And if you don't, 607 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 5: if you don't have that urgency to evolve and stay ahead, 608 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 5: as he calls it, it's over, you know, because the 609 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 5: NFL will define you and they will defend you. 610 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I like that as well. Daily urgency, you know, 611 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: take care of business right now, get better now. I 612 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: like that. But my favorite, I have to tell you 613 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 1: what qualities of a quarterback do you want in your scheme? 614 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: Toughness is what he said. I mean, Palie, you've got 615 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 1: to be kidding me right now. Toughness when I'm sorry, 616 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: but I don't think of a quarterback and I don't 617 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: think toughness immediately. There was one guy. I will tell 618 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: you one Arizona Cardinal quarterback that I did think, Wow, 619 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: he's a lot tougher than I've ever thought. Carson palmer 620 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: d was that guy, PAULI, he was that guy. Carson 621 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: was tough. What qualities of a quarterback do you want 622 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: coach in your scheme? And he said toughness? And you 623 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: know what, honestly, I just didn't think I'd ever hear 624 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback in the or a head coach in the 625 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: year twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six ever point 626 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: to toughness as the first quality he needs in a quarterback. 627 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 5: And he cited Matthew Stafford, who will hang in the pocket, 628 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 5: no doubt, a Matt Ryan who would hang. 629 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 6: In the pocket. 630 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 5: You know, Kurt Warner would definitely hang in the pocket 631 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 5: waiting for. 632 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: That extra split in the pocket. 633 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Wolf, how many times, Jacoby said, I 634 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: don't know if the TV cameras caught how many times 635 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 5: he came over to the sideline just seething in pain, 636 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 5: and like trainers are like you good, and they're ready 637 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 5: to get up Keaton Slovas and he's like no, He 638 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 5: shook it off, and he was out there for the 639 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 5: next procession. So the other thing about Michae Lafleur and 640 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: I found this out asking the question of the press 641 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 5: conference just how much he's looking forward to calling plays? 642 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 6: I missed it. 643 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 11: There's something about calling plays like you're just kind of 644 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 11: in it, you know, and there's a tone at which 645 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 11: you talk of that quarterback as well. I really believe that, 646 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 11: you know, like what they're hearing in that moment. It 647 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 11: is so hard to play quarterback in this league. And 648 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 11: you know, obviously he has the harder job as the 649 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 11: quarterback compared to the play caller, but you are in 650 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 11: it with him, and it's a it's a aspect of 651 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 11: football that I missed. 652 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 5: You could just hear the competitive juice is percolating inside him, 653 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 5: can you not? 654 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: Yes? So, Paul, Okay, So he says the number one 655 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: quality wants from his quarterback is toughness, and then he 656 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: talks about tone, tone in calling place. Paul, would you 657 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: ever have thought stuff like that? Honestly, your tone really 658 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: matters when you call a play. I never even thought 659 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: about stuff like that. Yet, at the same time, the 660 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: emotional up and down that a quarterback is riding the 661 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: vast majority of time in an NFL game. It's pretty incredible. 662 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: It makes a ton of sense. 663 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,239 Speaker 5: How many times have the Cardinals played the Rams And 664 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 5: we cited Sean McVeigh trailing the line of scrimmage on 665 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 5: the Rams sideline by a good twenty to thirty yards, 666 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 5: so he can get that angle of the defense. He 667 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 5: wants to see what sort of scheme. And yeah, especially 668 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: in the young days of Jared Goff, McVeigh would get 669 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 5: him up there right away and you would tell him, Okay, 670 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 5: you're looking at you're looking at man, you're looking at zone. 671 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 5: And then you know, they would have tells and he's 672 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 5: talking to the quarterback right up to the fifteen second cutoff. 673 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 5: And in that McVeigh relationship with the Q, it sounds 674 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 5: like that's something that Mike Lafore believes in wholeheartedly. 675 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: Yes, Paulie, not only that too, the three headed monster. 676 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: You're telling me the first three people he saw were 677 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: Trey McBride, Michael Wilson at, Barvin Harrison Junior at That's 678 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: what are the odds of that? 679 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 5: And then you had Elijah Higgins and Trey McBride at 680 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 5: the Phoenix Open talking about Yes, they took notice of 681 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 5: how many thirteen personnel snaps. The Rams ran this past 682 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 5: year that the red zone no doubt. So hey a reminder. 683 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 5: Learn more about Cardinals ticket options go to Hazycardinals dot 684 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 5: com slash tickets. We continue with a big red rage 685 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: presented by Emergency. Here we'll talk about this Super Bowl 686 00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 5: and a reminder in regards to the Cardinals. Next, it's 687 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 5: third and one. 688 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 10: Here's the shot bench Champ de Mayon of Sidearm Delivery 689 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 10: got it to his running back. Henders entertains a minefield 690 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 10: goalmantor Sideline forty Dominator Sideline thirty five Chaplin of the thirty. 691 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: The clock is tigging two one, and that's it. 692 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 13: MF. 693 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 10: Seattle Seahawks have won Super Bowl sixty in pretty dominating 694 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 10: fashion twenty nine thirteen. Then win their second Vince Combardi 695 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 10: Trophy and he'll win over the New England Patriots and 696 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 10: Mike mcconnald, the Seahawks head coach, becomes the third youngest 697 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 10: head coach to ever win a Super Bowl, and tonight 698 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 10: with the confetti flying wins Super Bowl sixty. Here in 699 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 10: Santa Clara. 700 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 5: The Great Kevin Harland on Westwood One. Speaking of Santa Clara, 701 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 5: you might have seen the Holy can only stat Wolf 702 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 5: that the Seahawks defense had more sacks and takeaways in 703 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 5: two games at Levi Stadium this season than the Niners 704 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 5: did in their eight home games combined. The Seahawks had 705 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 5: nine sacks they had four takeaways in two games at 706 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 5: Levi's this year, while the Niners banged up defense minus 707 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 5: Nick Moosa most of the year, Fred Warner and company 708 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 5: in their eight home games had seven sacks and three takeaways. 709 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 5: Oh is that Seahawks defense that good? 710 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: Yeah? I believe that they are that good, Paully, I 711 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: really do you know. Let me just say this right now, 712 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: when you think of rush four drop seven, if you 713 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: ever heard that, Polly, you ever heard rush four drop seven? 714 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: Right when you think of rush four drop seven, I 715 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: want you to think of Super Bowl sixty, Okay, because 716 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: that ultimately in a gross simplification of the truth. There 717 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: were a lot of plays and a lot of players 718 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: who made plays in this game. But that was the 719 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: reason why, in my opinion, the Seattle Seahawks won Super Bowl. 720 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: They were able to rush for drop seven, play an 721 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: awful lot of zone, get pressure on Drake May and 722 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: win the game because they were able to dominate that 723 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: part of the game. 724 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 5: And guess what it wasn't just a young Drake May, 725 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 5: who by the way, led the NFL and completion percentage 726 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 5: during the regular season. It's not just Drake May that 727 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 5: struggles against that sort of pressure on the quarterback, when 728 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 5: you're getting hit and harassed, when your left tackle is 729 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 5: given up fourteen pressures in a single game. Oh, Will 730 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 5: Campbell just astounding. But we'll think about it. Think about 731 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 5: the New York Giants rushing for dropping seven and beating 732 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 5: an undefeated New England Patriots team back in the day, right, 733 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 5: I mean. 734 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, Polly, it is, you know, and even 735 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: last year. You can go back to last year it 736 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: was the same thing. But man, I also want to 737 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: say this quickly, Paul. You mentioned Will Campbell, the left 738 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: tackle for the New England. It felt so bad for 739 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: him in the game I did as a former player. 740 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: My heart went out to this guy. I don't know 741 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: if there was something wrong with him. We haven't heard anything. 742 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything in regard to whether he was 743 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: hurt or there was some type of injury. But fourteen pressures, Paul, I, 744 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: I remember saying out loud as I'm watching Super Bowl 745 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: sixty on the couch by myself. I remember saying, you 746 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: know what, I don't think i've ever seen an offensive 747 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: lineman destroy a team's chances of winning such an important 748 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: game before in my life. You know what, it was 749 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: stunning to watch that. 750 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 5: The only example I'll cite, and you'll remember this because 751 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 5: you called the game. Now, it wasn't nearly the same magnitude. 752 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 5: It was a season opener of twenty twenty one. Taylor 753 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 5: Luwan gave up five sacks to Chandler Jones. That's okay 754 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 5: in Nashville. Did I remember when Chandler Jones went for 755 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 5: five and JJ Watt was in the sideline going, are 756 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 5: you serious? 757 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: Yes? First of all, it wasn't the Super Bowl. 758 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 5: And that's what I'm saying. It wasn't. It wasn't nice, yes, 759 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 5: but look. 760 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't that. And not only that, I don't think 761 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: fourteen pressures were allowed counting those sacks. Fourteen I've never 762 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: even heard that stat Paul. 763 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 5: So look, that might Mike McDonald's scheme. And it wasn't 764 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 5: just you know, it wasn't just one guy either. It 765 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 5: wasn't just Chandler Jones having a career game. I mean, 766 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 5: think of the depth Y had Derek Hall and some 767 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 5: fifth round rookie named Riley Mills and Byron Murphy the 768 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 5: second and Yu Chenna Nwosu with a forty five yard 769 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 5: pick six and aj Barner, an unknown tight end for 770 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 5: the most part in the NFL, with a touchdown catch. 771 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 5: I mean that Seattle team is really deep. On the 772 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 5: other hand, here's my other takeaway from the twenty nine 773 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 5: to thirteen domination by the Seahawks. This was the only 774 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 5: the sixth Super Bowl ever featuring two teams that missed 775 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 5: the playoffs the previous season. And I bring that up 776 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 5: for a league that gives you hope every single year. Well, 777 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 5: if I want to take you back to the end 778 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 5: of the twenty twenty four season when the New England 779 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 5: Patriots came to town, you were calling the game with passion. 780 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 5: I'm down on the sideline. We had a moment. I 781 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 5: think it was a commercial break. We all concurred. This 782 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 5: New England Patriots roster is awful. They have Christian Gonzales, 783 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 5: they have a nice up and coming rookie quarterback by 784 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 5: the name of Drake May and a bunch of other 785 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 5: guys first named jack last name squat, and they turned 786 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 5: it around in one offseason. They nailed the head coach 787 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 5: and Mike Rabel. They nailed the quarterback with the guy 788 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 5: who finished second in the MVP voting in Drake May. 789 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 5: But with some free agency and a really good draft, 790 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 5: they changed around their fortunes and went from four wins 791 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 5: to fourteen wins in one year. 792 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Polly, I mean, there's no lot about it. You 793 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: think of the Jacksonville Jaguars as well. Yeah, when the 794 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals played the Jaguars, where you're thinking to yourself, 795 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, this is a this is an awesome 796 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: football team. I really wasn't thinking that, Paully for the 797 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: most part. And they took out. They took off after 798 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals played, and Trevor Lawrence as well took off. 799 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: So you know, it's just a situation where it is 800 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: a work in progress and teams can develop at a 801 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: different rate depending on where they are. But man, they mesh. 802 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: We see it year after year after year, Paully. We 803 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: see teams go from worse to first and first to worse. 804 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: It happens in the NFL, and I think it's one 805 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: of the reasons why. Michael Bidwell actually pointed to that 806 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: in his press conference and said, you know what, that's 807 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 1: the expectation. Well, now they got to go make it happen. 808 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 5: To your point, the Cardinals can point to the bye 809 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 5: week twenty twenty four, a year and a half ago, 810 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 5: and where were the Cardinals in first place? They lost 811 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 5: five out of seven down the stretch after the bye. 812 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 5: They were two and zero to start this season. They 813 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 5: obviously a traumatic loss against Tennessee, but it was all 814 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 5: part of losing three in a row on walk off 815 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 5: field goals. You lost seven games by four points or fewer. 816 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 5: These are all things cited by Mike Lafloor and taking 817 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 5: the job. So do you reside in the NFL's toughest division. Yes, 818 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 5: you do, there's no doubt. But if you can make 819 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 5: some improvements in the off season and then, oh, I 820 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 5: don't know, you know, maybe your competition, you know, they 821 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 5: suffer some losses and all of a sudden, maybe that 822 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 5: gap isn't as vast as you thought. Don't forget in 823 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 5: weeks three and four, the Cardinals lost on walk off 824 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 5: field goals to the Seahawks and forty nine Ers. 825 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: This year, Yeah, Paully So what would you say is 826 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: job one for Mike Lafloor. What do you think it is? 827 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 5: I think we're gonna agree, we don't agree much. I 828 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 5: think it's O line and I think you concur with that, 829 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 5: do you not? Offensive line? 830 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: I would say the offensive line, Yes, there's no doubt 831 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: about that. But at the same time, I think you 832 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: have to figure out who your quarterback is going to 833 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: be put out ye quarterback is or who he needs 834 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: to be, and then you need to pursue that. But yeah, 835 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: offensive line, I'm with you. You've got to fix the 836 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: offensive line and a lot of that is many Austin 837 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: for it as well. 838 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 5: All right, so what sort of headache getting back to 839 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl? The NFC Western quarterback? Is Sam Darnold 840 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 5: going forward? You gotta worry about Matthew Stafford, who says 841 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 5: he's coming back. Brock Perty got the big money, you know, 842 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 5: and we know he's really clutch. Sam Darnold, you pointed 843 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 5: this out. Wolf went from leading the NFL in turnovers 844 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 5: in the regular season and how many turnovers did he 845 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 5: have in the postseason? Zero staggerant. It's amazing, No. 846 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: It really is. He did an incredible job. But what 847 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: is also amazing is Super Bowl sixty. When you think 848 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks in Super Bowl sixty, Oh my goodness, 849 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: did Drake May struggle poly Tank And especially in that 850 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: first half he looked. He looked like he was a 851 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: young quarterback year two in the league, just making his way. 852 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: He really did. And yet at the same time, he 853 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: actually finished the game with a higher quarterback rating than 854 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who did not. And again, Sam Darnald did 855 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: not turn the ball over. He managed He managed Super 856 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: Bowl sixty well. And that's the reason why the Seahawks 857 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: also won Super Bowl sixty is because he protected the 858 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: ball more than anything. But man, yeah, you know what, 859 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: it just didn't unfold the way that I thought it 860 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: was going to for Drake May. He really struggled in 861 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: that first half, brought it up in the second half, 862 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: but ultimately in the end, Sam Donald played better because 863 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: he didn't turn it over. 864 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 5: So Drake May had three turnovers, they punted on their 865 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 5: first eight drives. Sam Darnald at zero turnovers, and Drake 866 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 5: May finished with a higher passer rating. I did not 867 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 5: know that. Yes, yes, I might want to look at 868 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 5: the formula here in the offseason. On that one special 869 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 5: Banks says Always. Executive producer Jim A. Mohundro, Associate producer 870 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 5: Cody Fincher, Technical director Ali Narini for the great Dave 871 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 5: Pash who joined us. Special thanks Todave for Ron Wolfley 872 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 5: on Paul Calvic. This has been the Big Red Rage 873 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 5: presented by Emergency Air. 874 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: Chaw, You've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented 875 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 2: by Emergency Air. 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