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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan ANSAs, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: It's kind of going off in its own world in

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Speaker 1: awaited Theology. Um. This is the Monday edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. Thank you everyone for listening. Three

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Speaker 1: with a left index finger injury, which he tweeted after

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Speaker 1: the game will be just fine and he'll play next week.

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Speaker 1: But I thought he looked quicker and more decisive than

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Speaker 1: he did last year when he looked like he was

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Speaker 1: running and cement cleat I liked, uh. I like seeing

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd of the Bengals. All you hear about him

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Speaker 1: that he's a slot guy. He went deep down the

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Speaker 1: field on the down the sideline for a beautiful long catch.

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Speaker 1: If he can be an outside type of receiver, I

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Speaker 1: mean they need him. He's about as important as a

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Speaker 1: rookie receiver I can think in the league, just about

435
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Speaker 1: in terms of they need him to produce and play

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Speaker 1: right away. Don't forget about Charles Johnson forty nine yard

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Speaker 1: touchdown reception in that game, playing ahead of La Kwan

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Speaker 1: Treadwell in your stable of boys, Zack Zenter, Charles Johnson,

439
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Speaker 1: who is closer to a master suite well Zenner. Zenner

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Speaker 1: didn't have a house or a room in that house

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Speaker 1: for a long time. But I do remember enjoying him

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Speaker 1: last summer. I think he's let back in. But no,

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Speaker 1: come on, Charles Johnson, that's I think that um Zack Zenter,

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Speaker 1: who led the NFL in rushing last preseason, has overtaken

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, who used to play college basketball as like

446
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Speaker 1: the most used What about Ryan Patrick went to Harvard?

447
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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. Joan Battis is from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that that's big super Bowl? Like the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty v worst super Bowl over the last

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Speaker 1: ten years in my opinion? Oh, by far and also

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Speaker 1: fraudulent was a super Bowl? And by the way, big

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Speaker 1: announcement and it comes from a note in West is

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Speaker 1: what we learned. Fortune favors the bulb. Remember that when

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Speaker 1: you take freakishly talented Cardinals lead back David Johnson in

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Speaker 1: your fantasy draft, no risk at no biscuit. Yes, coming

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Speaker 1: up later this month two thousand sixteen Fantasy spectacular. Look,

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Speaker 1: if it was that obvious to take him, then the

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Speaker 1: guy drafting first would take him in every draft, or

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be so smart if you If everyone else

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Speaker 1: was onto him, you gotta take it bold, go get

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Speaker 1: the guy who's talented. This guy's right, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's next week the fantasy extravaganza, So we better get cracking.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, if it was obvious the crappy owner in

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Speaker 1: your league would take him, don't be the crappy owner

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Speaker 1: in your league. That's what we're here for. Mark, You're

466
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Speaker 1: gonna be on the corner fantasy corner. I'm gonna bring it.

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Speaker 1: I have some factoids and some in for nation to

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Speaker 1: unleash on you. Oh I like that. I mean particularly no,

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Speaker 1: I mean on the and the listener. How about Canadians,

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Speaker 1: the Canadian listener, specifically the Canadian I don't care about

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Speaker 1: the territory. Uh. Moving on, Let's talk Greg Rosenthal about

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Speaker 1: Matt mcgloy. You're excited about him. The Raiders are good

473
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Speaker 1: at when this comes up. Yeah, he's the preseason m

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Speaker 1: v P. I mean, he's always in the mix at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year for preseason m v P

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Speaker 1: where there's two thousand, fourteen fifteen. He's got the celebrations

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Speaker 1: and it was kind of a Mark like celebration going

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Speaker 1: like that, like pumping his fists in the air. He

479
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Speaker 1: had the MJ moment a few years ago. When you're

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Speaker 1: watching the preseason, you want to find mcglogin the story

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Speaker 1: story that game is Brandon Williams the Cardinals third, But

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Speaker 1: you don't want to double down to McGloin talk. I

483
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Speaker 1: think he's a little those, a little hyperbolic about his

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Speaker 1: two fourteen performance. But other than that, that's fine. Brandon Williams,

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Speaker 1: Cartner's rookie cornerback who had been tearing up training camp.

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Speaker 1: They were very excited about him, and Derek Carr came

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Speaker 1: out and picked on him. Sixteen yard completion the crabtree,

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Speaker 1: and then Amari Cooper burned him down the sideline. It

489
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Speaker 1: was slightly overthrown. Another play down the sideline that was

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Speaker 1: overthrown that that Cooper had beat him on again and

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Speaker 1: Andre Holmes got him on a touchdown. Now, he he

492
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Speaker 1: did some things where he played some receivers tight too,

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Speaker 1: But that's something to watch. He's only been playing cornerback

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Speaker 1: since his last year in college. He was a former

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Speaker 1: running back. I mean, I almost want to forget. I

496
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Speaker 1: watched that game and I and that became a big

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Speaker 1: narrative that the announcers kept discussing. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: these preseason announcers. Is there is there any player in

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Speaker 1: the league that isn't you know, zooming towards an all proper,

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Speaker 1: settled down preseason announcers. But I want to give Williams

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Speaker 1: a couple more games before we kind of it's so

502
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Speaker 1: easy to we're getting our first football want overtacked everyone

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Speaker 1: up and down. I don't. I don't think he's doomed

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Speaker 1: to be a failure. But I do think there's a

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Speaker 1: good chance he's gonna be the most targeted cornerback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And that was that was the position. I

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Speaker 1: talked about it all summer. West thought I was over

508
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Speaker 1: rating this factor, just that they're thin at cornerback. That's

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Speaker 1: it's they know it's the it's the position where they've

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Speaker 1: had some injuries, they've lost some players, and we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I do love though, the the announcer for that game, though,

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Speaker 1: Oh we love him. He used to say, if you

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Speaker 1: need a yard, I'll get you a yard. If you

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Speaker 1: need two yards, I'll get you a yard. Here here

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Speaker 1: are some quotes from Ron during that game. Uh he

516
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Speaker 1: looks like a pretzel. You look like a toothpick. That

517
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Speaker 1: was describing Cardinals six ft six, two seventy pound tight

518
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Speaker 1: and Troy Nicholas. Some guys walk around with a pencil.

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Speaker 1: Some guys walk around with a sledgehammer. He's big. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that that were the voice is. When it

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Speaker 1: comes down to this is the guy who sounds exactly

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Speaker 1: after after a particularly nice throw. You know, you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about dropping a p into a thimble. Here's

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Speaker 1: another one on Khalil Mack. I haven't seen a linebacker

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Speaker 1: move like that since Lawrence Taylor. That's just really good,

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Speaker 1: you know, praise for a guy he played. Yeah, DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Washington's a guy to watch for some fantasy. I like

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Speaker 1: the looks at him. The Raiders back up, burning back

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Speaker 1: in the open field. Key, how about making the leap

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Speaker 1: candidate Clive Walford touchdown? Tell me that guy's not British

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Speaker 1: Dan Clive Walford. Oh maybe I think he's more British

532
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Speaker 1: than Gary Barnet. I'm Clod Walford. Hey, come here, I

533
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Speaker 1: don't know what's wrong with that guy. Head injuries. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, all right, let's move to Saturday. Like an

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Speaker 1: English guy. Uh after taking cough mediciner, drinking a lot

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Speaker 1: of that lean Uh. Moving on, let's moved to Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with there is a franchise now officially

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Speaker 1: officially in the Los Angeles area downtown Los Angeles. After

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Speaker 1: Coli Seum their first game, the Rams, Uh, they played

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Jared Goff had his first pro action

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Speaker 1: after really emasculating UH performance on Hard Knocks Week one.

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Speaker 1: Gets at least do a couple of things, complete a

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Speaker 1: few passes, but he was pretty up and down four

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Speaker 1: and four of nine for thirty eight yards. One turnover

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Speaker 1: did got her get hurt. Bank got a little banged

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Speaker 1: up with nothing serious according to Jeff Fisher, But Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosal it was a man who's got a name that

548
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Speaker 1: sounds like a star quarterback in a in a Hollywood production,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott that stole the show. That you're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: case Keenum, who also sounds like a Hollywood quarter How

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Speaker 1: do they get these names? They always come out with

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Speaker 1: quarterback names, Dak Prescott. Prescott sounds like the sheriff of Tombstone, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: And nine it's a great name. What what did you

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Speaker 1: say during the game? You said he looked like he

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Speaker 1: was playing like a Roman demigod. Roman demigod, I mean

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Speaker 1: there was a point in that game, right thought, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're we're the Los Angeles Rams. This is meant to

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Speaker 1: be a special moment. One second into it, Lucky Whitehead

559
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Speaker 1: has run for a kick return touched on to open

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Speaker 1: up your stadium. I mean, you can't, you can't write

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Speaker 1: it that the on the return to Los Angeles, that

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Speaker 1: Lucky white that you give up the opening play for

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, and that Jared Goff's first past his return

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Speaker 1: uh or is an interception. It's like the worst omens

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Speaker 1: going to remember any of that because you know, but

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Speaker 1: it's just like and it also everyone will forget because

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Speaker 1: less Need and Jeff Fisher are about to get massive

568
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: contract extensions. That's true, and I bet those will be

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Speaker 1: short term ones. But to your point that Dak Prescott news,

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Speaker 1: this is where the preseason can actually be news, and

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Speaker 1: we want to see what does Dak Prescott look like

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks especially, But he was very

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Speaker 1: calm in the face of pressure. He handled some blitz

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Speaker 1: as well. These are the things that other rookie corl

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Speaker 1: placement was really good, like going back shoulder throws right

576
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Speaker 1: like Goff, you know, I'm not gonna get down God

577
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Speaker 1: for that interception, because they had a pretty complex blitz,

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Speaker 1: which you don't expect to see on your first snap

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Speaker 1: of the preseason. That that got him. But Prescott, on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, I mean Gruten was talking about him

581
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Speaker 1: looking off safeties to throw it. I mean, he looked incredible.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he's improved a lot over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And they you mentioned Chris and you're

584
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Speaker 1: what we learned or your comment your column on Prescott

585
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Speaker 1: that they did a very smart thing. They kept they

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Speaker 1: kept as out there. They gave him a great group

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Speaker 1: of players to work with. He looked comfortable in his

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Speaker 1: college career, bad offensive line and a lot of issues

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00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: and his college team, and they talked about him carrying it,

590
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Speaker 1: that he was that team all alone. And you never know.

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Speaker 1: You you think, oh, he's not. He's not going to

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Speaker 1: be Carson Wentz. He's not Jared Goff and then you

593
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Speaker 1: find these guys in the third and fourth round that

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Speaker 1: just kind of get it. And it's it's ripe for overreaction.

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Speaker 1: But that game, I watched that thing live and thought,

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Speaker 1: this dude is fun to watch. Shared Dallas is not

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Speaker 1: gonna overreact to this. Let me come back John if

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Speaker 1: he has to. If he has a bad second game,

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Speaker 1: people will come down on the wave a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But he played, he did everything. But he could earn

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Speaker 1: a job. He could be the backup. It's a week

602
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Speaker 1: to week league, and if he doesn't fall in his

603
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Speaker 1: face the next couple of weeks, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: trade for a backup quarter. It could be actually indirectly

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Speaker 1: bad news for r G three if McCown ends up

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Speaker 1: staying in town in Cleveland. But we'll see how that

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Speaker 1: all plays out. And by the way, we're about forty

608
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Speaker 1: eight hours away from a Stephen Jones headline. We always

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Speaker 1: knew we had something special in dec By the way,

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Speaker 1: on golf, I just wanted to say I thought he

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Speaker 1: looked better than his numbers. And you mentioned the interception,

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Speaker 1: the sack to the sack that knocked him out of

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Speaker 1: field goal range. He throws a really nice pass on

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Speaker 1: the play before that, the J. J. Wilcox knocked out

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Speaker 1: of the receiver's hands. The receiver probably should have held

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Speaker 1: on what Cooper Farrell Cooper, I mean, that was a

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Speaker 1: beautiful throw and that's all what you see. He stood

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Speaker 1: tall in the pocket and he showed off a pretty

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Speaker 1: nice arm. I thought he looked good, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: what Tyler Higbee, who they've been talking up a lot.

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Speaker 1: He could have they need they need receivers. And between

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Speaker 1: him and Hunter Henry, who was on the Chargers, the

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Speaker 1: two kind of relatively hyped up tight ends. I think

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Speaker 1: showed well and looked like guys that will that will

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Speaker 1: matter this year. Let's move on. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titoons or maybe the Titans, because Exotic smash Mouth

627
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: was looking good on Saturday in their preseason opener. Um

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Speaker 1: the thunder and thunder. By the way, we've been doing

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Speaker 1: thunder and lightning? What since? Like work done? And Mike Allstock, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dane and Tiki Barker, can we find something new to

631
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Speaker 1: describe the backfield? It's better than smashing dash, that's but

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Speaker 1: even that feels a little more fresh and smashing dash.

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Speaker 1: Do you even know who's smashing dashes? A big guy

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Speaker 1: and small guy? Um fatty and normal something like that,

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Speaker 1: um de. Marco Murray and Derrick Henry combined for a

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven yards and two touchdowns, and uh West,

637
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. First of all, to Marco Murray

638
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: did he pray to God and get his legs back

639
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: because he just ran by everyone on a sixty or

640
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: seventy one yard touchdown where he looked pretty good there.

641
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, uh look real good. Uh running up the middle,

642
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: making moves, taking guy is with him. That dude looks serious.

643
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: All of you, Mike Malarkey critics keep yucking it up

644
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: about exotic smash mouth with the Titans. Punch you in

645
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: the face bringing the hammer. Speaking of rating too much

646
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: into one preseason game, hold on, let the record show.

647
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: I have been consistently on the Titans since April. Every

648
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: time we brought up team of a t L I

649
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: have mentioned the Titans is my favorite. Derrick Henry look phenomenal.

650
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Dan that he does. He doesn't look like

651
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: a typical NFL running back. I think he looks like

652
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: a like Jamal Charles got into the Superhero Juice. Yeah,

653
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: he's tall, he's big, he's wears number two, and I

654
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: don't know what what's throwing me up. Maybe it's the

655
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: first time I'm a skill player in a Titans uniform

656
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: is getting me excited. That's probably like a decade or what.

657
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: But he just looks different. He does look different. You

658
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: don't see a big six ft three six three and

659
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: a half running back like you. You don't expect him

660
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: to be so smooth. Now, they were crushing these Chargers

661
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: linebackers who probably aren't going to make the team, and

662
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: the Titans went out of their way to keep their

663
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Speaker 1: star t's in against the Chargers backups. And I thought,

664
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Speaker 1: I thought Henry looked unbelievable. But you say this is

665
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: a good day for Mike Malarkey, give me a break.

666
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: This was a terrible day for Mike Malarkey. They let

667
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: the fans call the first two plays. Those were the

668
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, two best play calls of the day. It

669
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Speaker 1: was a huge upgrade on Malarkey. Those fans great in

670
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: six yards in two play point from Greg. But I

671
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: will point out that he missed an opportunity to drop

672
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: what a bunch of malarkey. That's fair Whiskey call these plays. No,

673
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: they auctioned off the Malarkey's offense. Here's in defense of Malarkey,

674
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: because it's not just the running backs. You look at

675
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: how Mariota ran that offense and the running game and

676
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: some of the crazy stuff they were doing. The backward

677
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: hand off right I mean, Mariota looked completely crispy, has

678
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: been well coached, and that's a plus from a lot.

679
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a fun team to watch. I

680
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: know everybody likes to crap on the Titans, but they

681
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: are gonna be fun. Well, this isn't that team that

682
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: we were crapping on. Well, it's a different People are

683
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: still crapping on them because of the Malarkey factor out.

684
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. We got excited last August.

685
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: Remember all that buzz after Week one, and when Mariota played.

686
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: They were fun to watch. And they have two legitimate

687
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: running backs that they did not have last year. I hear,

688
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: you've got to go do it, But see after Marco

689
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: Murray is a legitimate running back. I'm not basing it

690
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: off of one run. He had acres of land around

691
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: like we'll see when when the games start. I think

692
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, this is the type of thing you've never

693
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: seen him play before. You get to see it with

694
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: your own eyes, and obviously is a really talented But

695
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: then good for them for drafting Henry and adding strength

696
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: upon strength. They know what they want to be. You

697
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: need more than one running back and they went out

698
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: and got these pre draft reports that Derrick Henry has

699
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: no lateral jilia. Now it's Garrett Blunt clone or something.

700
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: Give me a brick. Well, it's a reminder that you know,

701
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: players improve, players change, or the scot reports were wrong.

702
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: I like seeing uh, Melvin Gordon by the way looking

703
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: he looked good. It wasn't you know. That's big for

704
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: spice Rack winners and losers this weekend winners spice Rack.

705
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: Not only did Melvin Gordon have some juice in his leg,

706
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: but Jonathan Williams the Bills played pretty well that that

707
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: real deep sleeper well less and I spoke about it downstairs.

708
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh, when spice Rack coming back on? You know,

709
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: will spice Rack be back? It's the buzz all over

710
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: social media. If Melvin Gordon runs for a thousand yards

711
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: this season spice Rack and coming back on the show, well,

712
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to have him on to talk

713
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: about any help. Consider we gave him many chances to

714
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: talk about NFL players, and it was basically eight mentions

715
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: of Nick Van Exel, one of Melvin Gordon, and three

716
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: of Jonathan Williams. And that's it, you know, Gregg doesn't

717
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: like when you dwell on this ugly pass with Spice Rack.

718
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: I love Spice Rack. He's great, but we did give

719
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: him a chance to talk NFL players well. One thousand yards,

720
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: which is not a hard thing to do in the

721
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: modern NFL. Um that's averaging sixty yards a game over

722
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: a season if you play every game. That's Spice Rocks ticket.

723
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Speaker 1: Back to the Around the NFL podcast, Let's move on

724
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: and talk about another running back, another reclamation project. Kristen

725
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Michael Senior, gross I guess he had a child. Oh

726
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: Greg rolled his tongue. What was that sound? If the

727
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: listener dials back about twenty seconds, you can hear that audibly.

728
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna ed all so you are actually turned on sexually,

729
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: Greg by Uh, Kristen Michael Sr. I was just making

730
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: a weird face because you were just looking at me anyway.

731
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: A wait, seven carries forty four yards rushing. Uh. You've

732
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: got Thomas Rawls, who was you know, borderline phenom before

733
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: he went down with his injury last year. But all

734
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Chris Westling, it looks like they might

735
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: have a real stash and dash Uh Fatty and the

736
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: Skinny Thunder and thunder and lumber uh combo. Well, if

737
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: you're one of these uh ostrich head in the sand

738
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: fantasy football fans who stops paying attention in Week sixteen,

739
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: you had your skeptical of Christin Michael because you didn't

740
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: see his Week seventeen phenomenal game against the Cardinals and

741
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: his wild Card round game against the Vikings when he

742
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: looked really good. And then that January the entire coaching

743
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: staff is praising him for newfound maturity all offseason and

744
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: training camp. He's the leader in the running backs room.

745
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: You could see that this push was coming that Kristin

746
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: Michael is a different running back. He's always had the

747
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: talent and now they've got a one two punch with

748
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Roles in Kristin Michael. He will be part of this

749
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: backfield and you can forget about all those rookies you

750
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: were hearing a lot about. Maybe c J. Prosie will

751
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: play on passing downs, But this Alex Collins garbage and

752
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: the other seventh round guy, they're not playing. Baby. A

753
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: little fantasy extravaganza teaser, you handcuffing these guys in a draft. Well,

754
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: I have Roles as a keeper in a dynasty league.

755
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: And I drafted Kristin Michael a month ago to pair

756
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: with him, so I'm in good shape. So that's a yes.

757
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta be able to give out the advice.

758
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for a month. Take Kristin Michael

759
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: and ignore all that I think. I think you could

760
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: take Michael even without Rawles. You called Terence West the

761
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: best running back up Thursday night. I mean, I'm with you.

762
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: I think christ and Michael is the best running back

763
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: of the weekend. And he's kind of a good test

764
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: of do you believe players can change at some point

765
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: in their careers. Of course they can. It happens every

766
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: year and and sometimes they burn you again and again.

767
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: And he's kind of the he's kind of like a

768
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: shorthand at this point for football hipsters who have just

769
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: like wanted him to be good year after year after year.

770
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: But but there's a lot of reason to believe this

771
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: is the year they run black great on that team. People.

772
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: People knocked that offensive line for the most part, they've

773
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: done a good job well. And if you and you

774
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: watch where his early yardage came, it was through that

775
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: guard center guard window. He was plowing through people and

776
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: it was fun to watch Arrow up on this situation.

777
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: Charles Johnson, Clive Walford, Kristin, Michael Mark Sussler's making the

778
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: lead columns. Go back and read them all. They are prophetic.

779
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: When I wrote I like when Mark pumps himself up, Well,

780
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I do it when it's when it's actually needed to

781
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: be done and when it has some meat attached to it.

782
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: My name is Kauaive Wolfe. I'm gonna be a real

783
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: break up player. Sion got Bons gone nothing on me, mate.

784
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: You think when they brought him back that they felt

785
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: like he's close to turning the corner or was it

786
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: a desperation move and they knew who he would they

787
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: brought him back in December, it was a desperation three

788
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: teams kind of all right. So I'm saying teams could

789
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: be like Pete Carroll knew, but it's like I don't think.

790
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he knew, but I think once he

791
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: was there for a few weeks then they knew that, hey,

792
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: this guy is taking it a lot more seriously. He

793
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: had some very rare uh complaints. He would not carry

794
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: the ball in his left hand. That was one. And

795
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: when Diva in their Tom cable blocking scheme. Getting from

796
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: point A to point B is just as important as

797
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: good from point B to point C. And he wasn't

798
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: getting from the hand off to the line and seeing

799
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: the right holes. And it seems like he's doing all

800
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: of that now and in hand is a twenty year

801
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: older in your twenties sometimes changes your view. By the

802
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: way Andy Reid in this game, like, let's cut down

803
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks. You don't need five quarterbacks all getting

804
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: five attempts at more five quarterbacks is an insane amount

805
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. For Tyler breaks final injury, so he will

806
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: hope out of I do like, first of all, that

807
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: game ended on a super depressing hail mary um with

808
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know guys that probably won't be

809
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: on the team involved. And then they cut to Andy Reid,

810
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: who was on the you know hammer end of this

811
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: hail mary on the coaching sideline, and he made a

812
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: face like don't care. He couldn't have cared less. It

813
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: was some of the worst hail mary coverage. Also, it

814
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: was like, I implore everyone to check it out because

815
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: they went with like straight man coverage. Usually a hail

816
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: mary is like a crowd on the field. There was nothing,

817
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: was just one on one coverage down the sideline, game

818
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: on the line. It's fun. It's funny. Let's talk about

819
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: possible calamities, uh, for quarterback situations. The Colts who have

820
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Scott Tolzin up in line to be the new backup

821
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: instead of Matt Hasselbeck who was killed on the field

822
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: last season, but the former Packers back was severely outplayed

823
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: by e J. Manual in that Colts Bills game and

824
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: coming off injury marred season, you're a little bit worried there,

825
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Greg No probably pays. Yes. I tried to watch his game.

826
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: This was the game. I couldn't find any notes other

827
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: than Jonathan Williams, which we already covered our boy that

828
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Colts Bills. By the way, Andrew Luck didn't play and

829
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: then totally unnecessary, but Jim rcay decided to take to

830
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: Twitter and let everyone know one of the reasons why

831
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Luck wasn't playing is because Rex Ryan takes the preseason

832
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: two seriously, which I totally believe in. Yes, I don't

833
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: know that by that logic, A lot of a lot

834
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: of coaches do. Because they were cooking up some blitzes

835
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: this weekend and a lot of these games. Wait, Phillips,

836
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: Son of Bum, took to Twitter to he had some

837
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: issues with people saying that the Broncos are blitzing too

838
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: much against the Bears, and he made a good point.

839
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: And again it shows how football as big as everyone

840
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: is a fan of the sport of football, nobody knows

841
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: what's going on. He like put everybody in their place

842
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: and used all this football jargon to explain that he

843
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: wasn't really blitzing. There were things that looked like blitzes

844
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: but weren't blitz is. Don't talk about what you don't know.

845
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: That's what he was saying. God bless son a Bum.

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Speaker 1: And finally it's moved through the Sunday game and Mark,

847
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: you wrote about it on our website. Oswiler looked like

848
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: a pile of part garbage. Well, it was a small

849
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: sample size. I mean, that's the that's the tweet that

850
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: we're going to use the tweet quote. He didn't get

851
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: much done. I mean, I mean it was it was

852
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: a very you know, quick audition for him. The best

853
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: thing that came out of it for them was I

854
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: thought Lamar Miller looked good in that in that ground

855
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: to them. But that was also also quick, you know

856
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Kenny Hillier there, Kenny Hillier looked great. I mean, they

857
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: the Texans, they with bruck Osweiler. I just think that look.

858
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: I think I went out on a limb and defended

859
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: him last season for the way that he, you know,

860
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: handled a tough situation in Denver. But when you boy

861
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: all it down, he was some of the same quirks

862
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: that we saw with the Broncos just absolutely reappeared on field.

863
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: On the field against the Niners, it was like nine plays,

864
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: it was three three and outs, didn't didn't have a

865
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: ton to prove. But I was watching. The thing that

866
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: concerned me most. I know, this is stupid, and it's

867
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: not the thing that I usually get into. Which is

868
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: the thing that concerned me the most if I was

869
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: a Texans fan, was the interview with the sideline reporter. No,

870
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: it's not. But I just got me thinking, like, he's

871
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: not just learning a brand new offense after slowly learning

872
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: one offense in his career, he is learning how to

873
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: become a franchise quarterback. And the state of the thing,

874
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know, his eyes and that thing and

875
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: the way he was talking. It just I suddenly thought like, oh,

876
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: this is a lot for brock Oswell, it's a lot

877
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: for him to take on, to learn a brand new

878
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: offense and be the face of the team. And you

879
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: could you could just kind of tell he was trying

880
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: to be that, Hey, I'm the starting quarterback now and

881
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to seem too down and get a

882
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: first down. It's just a lot, Wasn't that Dan's analysis

883
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: of brock ost Weather at his introductory press conference, and

884
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: he was basically trying to be well, I mean, he

885
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: grew up under Peyton Manning, and I thought that with

886
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: the Broncos last season he was like dangerously polished in

887
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: his interviews and he he was extremely complimentary of everyone else,

888
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: saying everything that a Peyton Manning boring esque interviewee would say.

889
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: And I think it's rubbed off on him a little bit. Yes,

890
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: for those of you not been with us for a

891
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: couple of years, we were under the impression that when

892
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Tom Savage came out of nowhere to be drafted by

893
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and no one had ever heard of him,

894
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: that might not be except Gil Brandt who had been

895
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: talking him up. Yes, might not be a corporeal enter,

896
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: potentially a hologram, right, but he's real because he played

897
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: in that game and did some things, throw a real touchdown.

898
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: That's something brock ostl didn't want a hot take on

899
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation. Sure, I'd rather just play that dropt

900
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: thirty five times and then leave. But yeah, not only

901
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: would I rather have Paxton Lynch than brock Ostwiler, I'd

902
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: rather have Trevor si No. There were a lot of

903
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: people tweeting that that that Johnny well, but no, that

904
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: was all over Twitter last time. John always never looks

905
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: smarter that he probably has a better starter, according to

906
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: a lot of these people tweeting, and Trevor Simeon than

907
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: brock Osweiler. I've been as I've been at anti Oswiler

908
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: signing as possible, but I don't take much out of

909
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: three series. It's just a reminder, yeah, that of what

910
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: he did. Laughter brock Osweiler, he was not the worst

911
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: quarterback in this game. That I'll tell you that much.

912
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: All Right, you thought Gabbert was Let's let's talk the

913
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: forty niners a little bit. That I mean playing Gabbert.

914
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we won't spend more than a minute on it,

915
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: but he comes right out of the gate. He has

916
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: two easy lobs to Carlos Hide that would have been positive.

917
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: Artisan set the offense up, misfires on both. He throws

918
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: a couple of passes down field that are completely under thrown,

919
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: throws off his back foot on a big chance to

920
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: connect downfield, finally gets saved when he hits Vance McDonald,

921
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: made a good read hit Vance McDonald, who did all

922
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: the work on a forty three yard touchdown. It was

923
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: not a good start for Blaine Gabbert. He is mobile,

924
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: that's the one thing he showed, but it was it was.

925
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: It was ugly. Not a good night for the Jeff

926
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: Driscoll will start games faction, though either there's Connor or

927
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: the only member of that faction now. The San Francisco

928
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: columnists said he thought all three quarterbacks will start three games.

929
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: At least. I'd plug in drist calls like a Danny

930
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: woodhead type guy can move. Gabbert had a touchdown drive

931
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: out it too. I mean, I mean, did they make

932
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: one of those NFL videos about all Blaine Gabbert's throws.

933
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: I didn't see what it was. He was just doing

934
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: everything that you that you thought Blaine Gabbert had grown

935
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: out of That's what he was, those those uh wine

936
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: and cheese parties in Santa Clara. It's gonna be tough

937
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: this year. If you've if you're rolling with wine and cheese,

938
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: it's never really that tough. That's true. You know that

939
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: what the win and loss happens, and they you know

940
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: that rolls right off the back. All right, there you go.

941
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: There's a recap of week one of the preseason. Let's

942
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: now move on, guys, and uh continue our division by

943
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: division preview in our supersized edition of the Around the

944
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: NFL podcast NFC North. Maron and Uh, Greg, you want

945
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: to get us going by telling us who are the

946
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: four teams in the NFC North. I believe the Green

947
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, Lions, Chicago Bears, and they recently allowed the

948
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings into the division. Was it reason these teams,

949
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 1: unlike every other division, have been together forever. It's nice,

950
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: a good call, Greg, Uh and all correct answers. So

951
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: let's just like we did with the NFC's last week,

952
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through four different categories to get a

953
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: better grip on what's going on in the NFC North.

954
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: And we're gonna start with Greg the breakout star of

955
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: the NFC North and is I'm gonna go Teddy Bridgewater

956
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: because I'm sick of no one talking then any Teddy

957
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: Bridgewater this year. And Uh, I think he's got a

958
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: lot of the traits that you look for in quarterbacks.

959
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: I think he's more mobile, he's better against pressure. Deepall

960
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: is not as bad as you think. And he's got

961
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: a great team around him that's gonna make him, uh

962
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: look good if they're if they're winning a lot of games,

963
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: you could throw in. Stefon Diggs is another one, right.

964
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: I think you can put put a lot of guys

965
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: on that team. Eric Kendricks would be one. Everson Griffin

966
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: even though he's been around forever, they could jump up.

967
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: It's I just think with Teddy Bridgewater, it's like we're

968
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: and I'm guilty of it. We're so used to re

969
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: ranking quarterbacks each and every year, it's easy to forget

970
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: at this point a year ago, we liked them all

971
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: better than all the other guys in his class. And

972
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me at all, just because it's for him.

973
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: It's it's mental and once he's that far ahead of

974
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: the pack mentally, I think he can be a guy

975
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: that sticks as a top ten type of quarterback. Do

976
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: you think he has that type of ceiling? Yeah, m hm,

977
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: I big. It's the team around him that can help

978
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: him become that player too. Absolutely. I mean the line

979
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: is a little worried, worrisome. It's not like they're loaded

980
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: with crazy offensive talent. But you have Digs, you have Rudolph,

981
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: you have Peterson. That's pretty good. All right, I will

982
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: throw an out there. I'll move to the Detroit Lions,

983
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know if West's gonna agree with me

984
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: on this, but I'm gonna throughout Marvin Jones, UH wide

985
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: receiver who signed in the offseason, and some really glowing

986
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: reports about UH through camp, about the rapport between Jones

987
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: and Stafford, and actually m live dot com there beat

988
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: reporter wrote that UH that he has emerged. Marvin Jones

989
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: is their number one receiver and it's quote not been

990
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: all that close. Uh So we don't know. Of course,

991
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: we have golden teeth. There was had two very nice

992
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: years in Detroit since he got there. No Megatron, So

993
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: there is a void of those targets over a hundred

994
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: targets um or close to it that needs to be

995
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: filled and Marvin Jones, to me, who I always liked

996
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, can really take the next step as a

997
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: player in Detroit. I would put sandwiches that he won't

998
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: have a thousand yards this year. What really, Yeah, I would.

999
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean these this report that Marvin Jones is the

1000
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: number one receiver. Well, I don't think that Stafford has

1001
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: to work on his connection with Golden Tate, So I'm

1002
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: not surprised that he's not going to Golden Tate every time.

1003
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: He does have to work on his connection with Marvin Jones,

1004
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: So that makes sense to me. But Marvin Jones to me,

1005
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: feasted off at a J Green the single covers provided

1006
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: by him in Cincinnati. I don't know if that's gonna

1007
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: be the case. I would take that sandwich. I'd be

1008
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: on dance side. Well, now I know what sandwich to

1009
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: throw out. Yeah, make a mental know that that's a

1010
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: good one. He's talented by a mark. What do you

1011
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: think about that I have to work anything with Golden

1012
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Tate if there's something going on physically with him, if

1013
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: he's being out shown by Marvin Jones. Because I would

1014
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: take Golden Tate over Marvin Jones any day of the

1015
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: week Tate's I like Tate a lot. That's part of

1016
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 1: the reason why I like Jones because I think maybe

1017
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: he's a little better than he gets credit for it.

1018
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know. I just think Jones will

1019
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: be nice. I think they there's a little that old

1020
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: ewing theory dynamic potentially and play with Detroit's offense. Uh,

1021
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson being out of the picture maybe changes their

1022
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: offense and they can maybe be a little bit. I

1023
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: think Jones has the total skill set of a number

1024
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: one type of receiver. Another another making who's I love

1025
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Golden Tate, and I don't think he's what teams look

1026
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: for in a number one type of receiver where he's

1027
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: gonna go deep down the field especially and dominate on

1028
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: the sidelines. This is not who he is. Who's the

1029
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: current number one receiver with a game similar to Marvin Jones?

1030
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, you know is a better version? One is

1031
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: one that would pop to mind? All right, West Europe

1032
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: break out start. Well, first, let me say that I

1033
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: would if I was doing the Lions, Mir Abdullah and

1034
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: Devin Taylor whom Greg His comment the other night was

1035
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: that guy is really tall. For a second, guy. Those

1036
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: two guys, I like, uh, I'm gonna go Kevin White

1037
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Who Yeah, West talk like a personal

1038
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: connection with Kevin White. I thought he was a really

1039
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: impressive guy at the NFL trip West as White, Uh no,

1040
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: not alone for that reason, they actually met. They met, Okay,

1041
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, So it's a good dude. Well, he's a

1042
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: top ten talent at wide receiver and I think he's

1043
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: a stud. So I think, I mean, if you're that talented,

1044
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna do well. And I guess one of our

1045
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: exercises I was saying I thought he could make a

1046
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: big impact, But then I did hear some things that

1047
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: he was a little raw and had some a way

1048
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: to go. I guess you can't underestimate missing an entire

1049
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: rookie season. How that can maybe mess with your um progress.

1050
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: But the all the tools are there. We hear he's

1051
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: just a stud physically. Yeah, I don't put too much

1052
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: stock in whether he's raw or not. I don't know,

1053
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: but your boy Cutler is prominently involved to can can

1054
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: beat writers tell you how raw a guy is. I

1055
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: don't know about well, Dawell Loggins is involved. That concerns me.

1056
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: That's a fair concern. Lowell Loggins and j Cutler love

1057
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: it when we get our first dollar. Loggins crack of

1058
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: this little bit of a dig. His offense left a

1059
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: lot to be desired in the preseason opener. That does

1060
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: not reflect well. I know it's just one game, but

1061
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: you gotta score a point for his preseason game as

1062
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. All right, go ahead, Mark. I like

1063
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: what you mentioned with Digs in Minnesota, but I'm gonna

1064
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: go with the coach of the Vikings, Mike Zimmer. I've

1065
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: been a prey. It's all offseason. No, I don't think

1066
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: it has to be a player. Think that if the

1067
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Vikings do what I think they're gonna do, he's going

1068
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: to get that buzz and be talked about. Is one

1069
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: of the best coaches in the league. I think in

1070
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: a short amount of time he's improved that roster in

1071
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: a way that few teams have been able to do.

1072
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: Over a couple of seasons, he has mixed it at

1073
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: a veteran mix of his type of players that he's

1074
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: worked with before, along with some good draft picks, and

1075
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings they're ready to roll. I like the idea

1076
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: of Mike Zimmer becoming a breakout star and being like

1077
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: the face of every fashion campaign. I don't know if

1078
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 1: it's going to take on that type of I don't

1079
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: think he would want that. One last name, don't sleep

1080
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: on ha ha Clinton Dick's becoming a Pro Bowl safety

1081
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: this year. M alright. Moving on the biggest concern facing

1082
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: an NFC North team, and as Greg expertly laid out earlier,

1083
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: there are four of them. Go ahead, Greg, I I

1084
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: want to know can the Bears be a run first

1085
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: team with that personnel? Because John Fox desperately wants to

1086
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: be a run first team. You don't think of them

1087
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: as a run first team. No team in the NFL

1088
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: ran more percentage wise in the first half of games

1089
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: last year, and that was with Lankford in in four day.

1090
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: No team runs more when they're trailing in the second

1091
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: half of games. John Fox is trying to come back

1092
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: to a style of football this was under with Adam Gates.

1093
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: But I think he'd still like to do it where

1094
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: where they're gonna run the ball and I don't think

1095
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: they have the personnel to do that. Are they able

1096
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: to flip it and pass a little more with Jeffrey

1097
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: and White and Cutler because that's where their talent is.

1098
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: The offensive line, I don't think is is that impressive. Uh.

1099
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: Their backfield with Lankford and carry and doesn't look like

1100
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: how the rookie is gonna make that big of an

1101
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: impact right away. It's not that good. And I just

1102
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: think that sort of recipe is not gonna necessarily work

1103
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: for this team unless their defense is just dominant. And

1104
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what happening piggyback on yours because I

1105
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: was saying the Bears offensive line, UH is a big

1106
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: question mark to me. Jay Cutler is going to be

1107
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: terrible if they don't give him time. And it was

1108
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: not a good scene in that first preseason game where

1109
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: they got shut out against Denver with Von Miller, DeMarcus

1110
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: ware Keep to leave, and Chris Harris Jr. All out

1111
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: of the lineup, UH, and a lot of their problems

1112
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: were right at up front. They just lost their center

1113
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: for the year. I think if the Bears have any

1114
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: chance of competing and what should be a pretty good division, UH,

1115
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: that old line is going to have to make a leap.

1116
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's gonna happen. Well, I'm

1117
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: gonna piggyback off of travel we gotta pivot with. Let's

1118
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: talk about the Packers, the Lions and Bears offensive lines,

1119
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: both of them. The Bears offensive line gives up seven

1120
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: sacks to the Broncos backups, and you're you said it

1121
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: if I got a they've got a center problem. They

1122
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: need to go out and find a center because they

1123
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: don't have one. And the Lions do you You sang

1124
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: three first round draft picks into a line that can't

1125
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: block anyone. But you could almost extend this to the

1126
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: whole division. I think you talked to plenty of Packers

1127
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: fans who aren't exactly sure that that their tackle situation

1128
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: is is the best in the league, that David batr

1129
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: is just the guy that they're gonna have back there

1130
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: for fifty years. I mean, there cho their draft pick,

1131
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: that's true. Uh, Minnesota is still not sure who's gonna

1132
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: be their right tackle this year. They're hoping Matt Khalil

1133
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: bounces back at left tackle. Seems like in a division

1134
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: wide problem and a lot of good pass rushes in

1135
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: this division. I wonder if Johnny Fox will call up

1136
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: a member of the St. Louis Graybeards, Manny Ramirez, break

1137
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: him out of retirements and he not affiliated with the

1138
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: team once. Spot the time was a big fell in

1139
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: its center to move. I think he retired, yes, but

1140
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 1: if they could get him out of retiring, little Manny

1141
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: kind of like in a Brett farvesque move Polk, go

1142
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: down to his house. He's probably down there's fishing Manny Ramirez.

1143
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: You just pull him out of ATA. I went back.

1144
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: I want the guy who blew the Super Bowl in

1145
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: the first night of the I want that guy. He

1146
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: did retire, yes, Juny Uh listen, he could pull a Jordan.

1147
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: It would be huge news nationally. Mark. What did he

1148
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: just say, I'm back, I'm back press release, uh. Mark

1149
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: biggest concern. I was initially gonna go with Jim Caldwell

1150
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: and the Lions coaching staff because I just don't buy

1151
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: into this they got on the coaches right now, well

1152
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: you know it's from a different but I'm gonna go

1153
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: with Jordy Nelson because I feel like we're waiting for

1154
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: the healthy Jordy Nelson to show up and be the guy,

1155
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: and that's sort of the lynchpin to this whole offense clicking,

1156
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: and he's not on the field right now. I really

1157
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: it's just not a serious injury, but it's the other

1158
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: knee off of what he was dealing with last year.

1159
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: And are we gonna get him at full speed out

1160
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: of the gate or is it going to be this

1161
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: thing that lingers on and on forcing the Packers to,

1162
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, promote receivers up a notch. Well, that's fair.

1163
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's years old, so it's not like

1164
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: this is a year old guy coming back from knee

1165
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: problem and I'm your knee injury. But that's worth monitoring

1166
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: for sure, Jeff Janice. We just found out out a

1167
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: month to six weeks. We'll see if time Montgomery steps up,

1168
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: they want Davanti right, you know what's going on there.

1169
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: Underrated storyline coming out of the four team deep NFC North,

1170
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, we are you laughing? Four teams North? That's true?

1171
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: Uh my. My underrated storyline is the Bears defense could

1172
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: be fun. Going back to the Bears. I don't know

1173
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: if they're gonna be dominant, but I think they could

1174
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: be fun. You think of that that outside linebacker group McPhee,

1175
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: uh Young, Lamar Houston and Leonard Floyd I thought showed

1176
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: up in that first preseason game looked pretty good made

1177
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: some changes. You know, there's there's questions in the secondary,

1178
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: but there's some talent there. I think it could be

1179
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: a fun defense to watch. That has nothing to do

1180
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: with what we're talking about, but I liked it. The

1181
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: question is will they be you know area, will they

1182
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: be forced to hold teams to you know, eleven points

1183
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: to win games? But I do think they were underrated

1184
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I agree with you on the Bears defense.

1185
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: I'll throw one out there. Please do. Greg desperate to

1186
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: talk about the Packers, So let's do it. Randall Cobb

1187
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: underrated storyline. Not only was he banged up last year

1188
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: and at the Combine, I remember I don't know if

1189
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: it was Ted Thompson, but I think it was actually

1190
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: uh Mike McCarthy who was pounding the podium saying, hey, listen,

1191
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: don't get on that guy. He battled through a bunch

1192
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: of injuries. He was never right physically. Now, not only

1193
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: does Randall Cobb come into a season healthy, he gets

1194
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: to now slide back into the role that is much

1195
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: more suited to him and he could once again become

1196
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: the best slot receiver in the NFL and have a

1197
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: monster comeback year. I think that Randall Cobb. No one

1198
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: is talking about not only Jordy Nelson returning, but what

1199
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: that could mean for the rest of the wide receiver group,

1200
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: specifically Randall Cobby coming. Randall Cobb again underrated storyline. I

1201
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: like where you went there, because when you first mentioned him,

1202
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say that. Nobody's talking about that.

1203
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: He played through a couple of injuries. He could be

1204
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: banged up again this year. Maybe he's just not that good,

1205
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: but I agree with you when he's healthy. Two thousand

1206
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: and fourteen, Randall Copp was the best slot receiver in

1207
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. That just got me thinking you could say

1208
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: that description about a few Packers players. I mean, Clay

1209
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: Matthews was not exactly Clay Matthews, and you can blame

1210
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: it all on the position, but I wouldn't. I don't

1211
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: think he was quite as effective as he used to be.

1212
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy, We've talked about Ad Nauseam and Aaron Rodgers.

1213
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: Despite you know, Wessey think nothing of his struggles was

1214
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: his fault last year. I mean, I think he's not true.

1215
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: Maybe not nothing of his struggles, but most of it was.

1216
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: I think it all stemmed from other things. But he

1217
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: started struggling. He definitely changed his throwing motion and didn't

1218
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: get his feet involved. Right. There's there's a lot of

1219
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: great players on that team that weren't great last year.

1220
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: West up to you baby, underrated storyline, something that no

1221
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: one is talking about outside of Detroit. What's going on

1222
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Levy, who was one of the top ten

1223
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: defensive players in the league and two thousand and fourteen

1224
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: mrs almost all of last year with a hip injury

1225
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: that required surgery. He's on the non football injury list.

1226
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: He's not missing training camp because of an injury or

1227
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: because of the hip thing. He's missing training camp for

1228
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: some mysterious reason that Jim Calbwell won't talk about. The

1229
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: Beat writers know about it, but don't feel at liberty

1230
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: to talk about it. I don't know what's going on

1231
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: with de Andre Levy, but there are Lions fans who

1232
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: believe he may never play again in the Lions, and

1233
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: the Lions are saying, yeah, we expect him back for

1234
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: week one. They won't tell us anything that's going on

1235
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: with him. I would like I would know. I'd like

1236
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: to see West. Let's fly him out to the city

1237
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: to Detroit. Get you a nice little apartment there and

1238
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: you just get on this case. Well, I have a

1239
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: I have a better idea. What's old Frank Signetti up

1240
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: to these days, Detective Frank Sinnetti. He's on the case,

1241
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: not much from what we understand. He's in the Big

1242
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: Apple looking to clean up a dirty city. What was

1243
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: the name of the girl he was looking for? An

1244
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: I have forgotten? Rebecca Peterson. Where are those three names? Something?

1245
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: Ellie Anne something or uh? Finally, mark underrated storyline? All right, Lynval,

1246
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: Joseph Sure, Floyd Everson, Griffith, Anthony Barr, Harrison Smith, Xavier Rhodes.

1247
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: The Vikings have a Super Bowl defense in the making,

1248
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: and they're gonna They're gonna take this division down. I

1249
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: believe in this defense more than any other defense in

1250
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: the NFC right now, and they were going to make

1251
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: my opinion correct. By late September, early October, Peter, people

1252
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: will be seeing this. So your underrated storyline is that

1253
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings have a Super Bowl defense, have the

1254
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: best defense in the NFC, better than the Panthers and Seahawks. Yes,

1255
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: I believe that is how it will play out. Interesting,

1256
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: that is, and I don't think it's atlandish or anything.

1257
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting. Things will need to have

1258
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: a little underrated though West. It's definitely underratings here. Things

1259
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: will need to happen, and you know, for this to happen,

1260
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: but I believe it will believe they got they got

1261
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: them pieces. Then they've been there. They were pretty close

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Speaker 1: to the the best last year. Just get a little better,

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01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: a little underrated. That's get a little better. That's their motto.

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Speaker 1: Get a little finally, Um, time to talk a little

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Speaker 1: crossroads campaign? Uh in the NFC North one plus one

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Speaker 1: plus one plus one equals four. Let's go to Detroit

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Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford at some point. Maybe it's not even

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Speaker 1: the crossroads. Maybe you're just the new Jay Cutler. But

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01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: the whole UH Jim Bob Cooter phenomenon was real. Their

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Speaker 1: offense completely changed after Jim Bob Cooter was there. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned they were a terrible run blacking line. They were

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Speaker 1: a great running team after Jim Bob Cooter took over.

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Speaker 1: Top ten UH in football outsiders and running. Once Cooter

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01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: came over, can he keep that going? And especial really

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: in the passing game with Matthew Stafford and have him

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: being approachably better and more consistent quarterback, because that's the

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: only chance. And I'm listening to the lines preseason broadcast

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01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: and the guy was talking about that Matthew Stafford is

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: a top five talent if I talked to people around

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Speaker 1: the league's people around the leagues, and there is no

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Speaker 1: one more talented than Matthew Stafford. And I don't know

1282
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: if I quite died wrongest arm in the NFL. Do wait?

1283
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: During that preseason broadcast, I listened to that too. That

1284
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: was just absolute nonsense. The local guys, they're doing theirs.

1285
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. What was the when

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01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: they threw it down to a sideline report on Friday night?

1287
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Speaker 1: What was it again? We don't even have the name names,

1288
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: but what was the update on a player? Uh? The

1289
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: update was a player had had water and hydrated after

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Speaker 1: they went to the sidelines, because water and hydrating was important.

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Speaker 1: I will piggyback on Greg's point, uh somewhat. I think

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01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: there are two quarterbacks who are safe in their jobs

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: right now in this division, of course, Aaron Rodgers and

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01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. H Matthew Stafford and Jay Cutler not so much.

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Speaker 1: I think Stafford has another year at least where he

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: could be the fire could be under his feet a

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Speaker 1: little bit, even if he struggles this year, Jay Cutler,

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Speaker 1: And I know he's signed through the season, which is crazy, Uh,

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01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: but at a certain point next year could come and

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01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: if they if they don't have a good season this year,

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: and let's say either John Fox gets fired and they

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01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: start with a new a new look, that could be

1303
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: bad news for j Culer or John Fox is told, hey,

1304
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: you got one year more year to get this right.

1305
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: That could force John Fox's hand to maybe look somewhere else.

1306
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: But the Bears just seem to be stuck in football

1307
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: purgatory with this guy at this point. And I wonder

1308
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: if uh Jay Cutler has one more year in terms

1309
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: of being this undisputed, uh number one quarterback before things

1310
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: start to change in his career. Arc, Well, do you

1311
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: want better here? My crossroads campaign is the Bears passing game?

1312
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: A lot of Bears Jay Cutler, all of his guaranteed

1313
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: money is done. They can cut ties with him now

1314
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: whenever they want. All Sean Jeffrey, they already used the

1315
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: franchise tag on him. What are they gonna do next year?

1316
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just gonna let him go to the

1317
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: highest bidder. I think there's a lot on the line here,

1318
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: Doll Loggins. Is he a really NFL caliber play caller.

1319
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot in Chicago with that passing

1320
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: game that could be they might have to start all

1321
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: over again. It's why because they've already have started all

1322
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: over just about. They They had more like new starters

1323
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: on their team this year than I believe any team

1324
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: in the league just about. That's defense and offense. It's insane,

1325
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: Like they are a totally different team than when Fox

1326
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: took them over. Yeah, I mean I had John Fox

1327
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: slash Jake Cutler as my Crossroads campaign, and I think

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01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: it just makes sense. I mean, if you're Fox and

1329
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: you're the Bears, you look at what John Fox does historically,

1330
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: he gets your team to the doorstep, then you bring

1331
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: someone else in to take them further. But if they

1332
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: make if they take step backwards this year, then at

1333
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: this point, I mean, what what is left for? Why

1334
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: do you keep going with Cutler in John Fox? So

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: I I agree with your point there finally, guys, and

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: you can take this wherever you want. But maybe a

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01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: good way to also say who you're winner of this

1338
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: division is uh, let's each pick a song that best

1339
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: explains the NFC North. We'll start with Greg. So you

1340
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: just hear this and you just say, oh, oh, Return

1341
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: of the G by Outcast, Oh, Green Bay's back. You

1342
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: know the album before this comes out. It's it's a Quimini.

1343
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: It's great. It's it's like rappers in Space. Okay, that's

1344
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: how you pronounced I always wonder, you know, uh a

1345
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: T LANs rather before this, you know, okay, it's rappers

1346
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: in Space. That's great. This one Return of the G

1347
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: they're letting you know, first track. This is a different Outcast.

1348
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: This is the old, even better version. They're taking over

1349
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: the division. Vikings in second place, Lines and third and

1350
01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: Bears coming last. I like it. In fact, let's do

1351
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: some more piggybacking. It's my favorite songs. It's harm Mar Superstar.

1352
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 1: I love harm Mark Superstar. How did I get through

1353
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: the day? And it's this is Aaron Rodgers saying, just

1354
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: listen to picture Aaron Rodgers saying, oh what a voice.

1355
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: No Jordy Nelson last year, a rubenesque Eddie Lacy, a

1356
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: bank zoftag, even overmatched and injured Randall Cobb and somehow

1357
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers still willed his team to the playoffs last year.

1358
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: But this year it's gonna be all different. He's got

1359
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: all his boys back and he's just the left to

1360
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: think about how did he get through the day last year?

1361
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: While you're looking up that Harmark Superstar song at Home, Lady,

1362
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: who Lady You Shot Me? And Isn't here are two

1363
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: great songs by Harmark Superstar. I would like to see

1364
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: him live. Interesting, dude, what a talent West Europe. All right,

1365
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: let's stay on the same time. Green Bay Packers Murphy's

1366
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 1: Law type of season. Everything that could go wrong went wrong.

1367
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: Would I trust the quarterback, trust the coaching staff, trust

1368
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: the GM This is a perennial powerhouse in the NFC,

1369
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be back in the high life again.

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01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: We went with Steve Winwood on this because I know

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01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: Mark and Dan loves some Winwood, but Warren's Evon's version.

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: Check that out. You should have well with it. I

1373
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: could have put I think the Packers score five hundred

1374
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: points this year, and you know they're that type of offense,

1375
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: and it looks like all three of us and maybe

1376
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: Marker in agreement. Band of groupthink hobo pot on second place, Vikings,

1377
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: third place, Bears, fourth place, Lions. This is I didn't

1378
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: say mine? Uh? Vikings second place and a playoff spot.

1379
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,879
Speaker 1: Ten wins. Uh there rounding out the group. How daring

1380
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: of you, you group think hoboes? Roll with it? Baby,

1381
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, on my cat. It's clear that there's

1382
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: no connection here. I need last one? Was I touched

1383
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: myself now to sex Mark LS one hit Wonders? All right, Marcos,

1384
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: all right, that's everyone just automatically blindly putting green Bay

1385
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: in first place. I'm too sexy to deal with anyone

1386
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: else in this division. Look at me and the Green

1387
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. The Vikings are gonna win this division. I've

1388
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 1: already mentioned it. And they are a super Bowl legit

1389
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: type team and they're gonna nip Green Bay. I think

1390
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: Green Bay is going to be much better than last

1391
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: season on offense. I'm not taking any of that away.

1392
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: But it's just this automatic hop scotching of the Minnesota Vikings,

1393
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: who played tough football last season, and I really believe

1394
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: they are a playoff team again and they're gonna win

1395
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: the NFC North. I think the Packers have who's who's

1396
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: too sexy? You're sexy? Is everyone just like, look at

1397
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: me automatically putting Green Bay back on top of the NFC.

1398
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm so sexy, and we're right, said Fred in this innet.

1399
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: You guys are walking around saying they're too sexy for

1400
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: everyone else, but you're actually But he was right, he

1401
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: was too sexy. He wasn't have you. I watched the

1402
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: video say he was nowhere realized that Mark went with

1403
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 1: the vinyl as I touched myself and his reasoning behind

1404
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: that song was exactly the same. Right, Well, no, that

1405
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: was afense of the entire division. Yes, it's similar. It's

1406
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: uprist You called us. You said we're hobo group think.

1407
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: I believe group think, so, but you're you're you're crazy wild.

1408
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: Take here is the team that lost by one point

1409
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: in the playoffs will be back to the playoffs, but

1410
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: not be a super Bowl team. No, I think they

1411
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: will be a super Bowl team. Are they're making Okay?

1412
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad I asked and say it. Then say that

1413
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: that I said there a super Bowl team before I

1414
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: said they had a super Bowl level defense. Do you

1415
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: object to the notion that group think hobos an oxymoron? Okay?

1416
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: Loos tend to be independent thinker. Maybe you don't know

1417
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: how many hobos are you hanging out with. Sometimes they

1418
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: all do the same thing. They walk to get on

1419
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: a train together. Give me a cigarette, give me this.

1420
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: They're losers. Well, I don't know about a conspiracy theories

1421
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: floating around with those hobos. All right, by the way, Vikings, Packers, Bears, Lions. Man,

1422
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: we got six more of these. Dan, Clearly, it's not

1423
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: like I think last week. I think we got him

1424
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: pretty deep on this one. How long has this episode been?

1425
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: A nineties seven minutes long? Um? All right? Good talk though, Hey, listen,

1426
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: it's fun football talk. I'm not saying I don't like

1427
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: to say. I'm just saying it's it's a bit of

1428
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: a beast. We'll get it done by September. Hey, I

1429
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: do want to I want to send one. I don't

1430
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: have to have that many categories. Yeah, we can cut that.

1431
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: We'll work on it together. Privately. I want to send

1432
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: out condolences on behalf of the entire on the NFL

1433
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: podcast to Mark Brady, who is a important guy behind

1434
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: the scenes here at the NFL Media and is a

1435
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: big champion of our podcast and does a lot of

1436
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: great work. His father Patrick Brady passed away last week.

1437
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 1: Um so just sending out good vibes to the Brady

1438
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: fam in our thoughts. Uh. We will be back on

1439
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: Wednesday with another edition of the Around the NFL podcast

1440
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 1: with a special guest, perhaps not a indie rapper, but

1441
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: maybe a woman. News to us, all these things are

1442
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: in the air Monday, Wednesday Friday. This week we will

1443
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: all be reacting again off the off the Thursday preseason

1444
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:48,839
Speaker 1: games as we roll on towards another season of football.

1445
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: Until then, this is Dan handsOn signing off for Quiet Storm,

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01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: the mail Man, the Boss, and the Irish behind the

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Speaker 1: Glass Down Wednesday, m