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Just Wednesday, 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: July ninth, and welcome to a brand new episode of 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: Three Rounds with Daniel Cormier, presented by Total Wireless, the 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: official wireless provider of you have seen here in your 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: corner with unlimited five G data that will not slow 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: you down. Hey, turn the volume up in my ear piece. 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: Turn the volume up my ear piece because look. 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: I hate him. 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: Last week body shot, body shot, body shot. I ate 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: his ass up, but he came back. Dean Thomas back 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: for another fight. D I mean you came back? 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm back, Baby, I can't. 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: I might. 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: I might have went down for a little bit, but 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: I'm back for the rematch. 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Man, bring it then, go let me tell you something 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: this dude right here Dean, and thank you guys all 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: for watching. Dean came prepared to fight last week, but 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: as you guys know, I'm always ready to go three 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: rounds with Dean Thomas, Chris Widman, you, Dominic Cruz. It 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: don't matter who steps up to the player, who steps 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: in this octagon with me. When there's talking, the boy 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: DC is ready for a fight. 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: So let's go. 52 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm experience round one Dean. John Jones retired a couple 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, said he was done, no longer is 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: he ready to fight in the UFC. But then on 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: July fourth, a tweet comes out, I have just re 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: entered the uside of testing pool, figuring we keep everyone's 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: options open. 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: What was your initial thought when you heard that from 59 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: John Jones. 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: My initial thought when I heard that was this dude 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: just love attention. 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 4: He love attention. He's just trying to keep his name 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: out there. He love attention. 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: He like dangling his status over our head, and I 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: hate it. I'm gonna tell you right now, man, I 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck if John Jones ever fights again. 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: I don't care. 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Man. He's the greatest to ever do it. For sure, 69 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: he's great, He's super great. But I don't care if 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: he ever fights again. Just sit off and rode up 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: until Sunday. You know it was Sun said you don't 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: I care about I care about Illiotdaporia, Dustin Poirier, the 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: dudes that's out there putting a life on the line 74 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: for us. I care about those dudes. John Jones, I 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: don't care if he fights again. 76 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So my initial thought was why why? 77 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: Right? 78 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: So I figured he was trolling. I thought he was trolling. 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: I thought he was messing with the kind of giving 80 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: him a hard time because he knew how much they 81 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: wanted him to fight Tom aspinall. But then he didn't, 82 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: and he says, you know what, this don't mean. 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: Enough to me. I'm done. 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: My biggest issue is why are you playing with people's emotions? 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: It seemed like that's something he's been doing quite a 86 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: bit lately. 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: Now, I will say this, Dean, we have not seen 88 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: John Jones fight often, and I don't like you put 89 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 2: me in a very uncomfortable position because you say stuff 90 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: like you don't care I fights again. I don't want 91 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: to be the guy. You don't make me be the 92 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: guy that's like, well, we need John Jones. You try 93 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: to do this shit to me on purpose. 94 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: No, no, you could agree with me on this. I 95 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: mean you said it. I've read the news lines. Man, 96 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: you said it you wanted to see him. 97 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: Fight at the White House. 98 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be kind of cool, right if we 99 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: need an American to go to fight at the White House. Yeah, 100 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: John Jones is the guy, probably, But man, I just 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: don't like when these dudes we spent a year and 102 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: a half talking about him not fighting a year and 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: a half. 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, just wride off, dog. 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: You had a great career, you had two great Hall 106 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: of Fame careers, just right off into the sunset. 107 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 4: Stop playing with our emotions. Man, I'm tired of it. 108 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: Hey, you know so John Jones had the two o 109 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: five pound career that was Hall of Fame. John Jones 110 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: had a heavyweight career where he's champ, defended the belt. 111 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. 112 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: John Jones is like the last person we saw that 113 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: had two careers that were Hall of Fame where it 114 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: was Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds and Pittsburgh was a Hall 115 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: of Famer. Barry Bonds in San Francisco was a Hall 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: of Famer. But he's not in the Hall of Fame. 117 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: So my question to you is, when he walked away, 118 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: John Jones, he comes back, does he get I mean, 119 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: he gets into the Hall of Fame. 120 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: Right, Barry Bonds is. 121 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: Not in the Hall of Fame because of all the 122 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: drug stuff. John Jones is going into the Hall of Fame. 123 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: Right, He's going into the Hall of Fame. 124 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's sad, it's hard to say that, 125 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: but he's going into the. 126 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: Hall of fame. I know he's got so many different. 127 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: Transgressions, the drug stuff, his personal life is all like 128 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, obviously you don't want to roll 129 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: use him as a role model for your kids. Yeah, 130 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: but what he's done inside the octagon is definitely hall 131 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: of fame worthy. 132 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: You could never take that away from him. He's hall 133 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: of Fame worthy. 134 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: But I'm not telling my son to look up to 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: him as a role model put it. 136 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but so so Dean. 137 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: You said you don't care if he fights again, But 138 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: you're telling me that if if Tom Aspinall and John 139 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: Jones comes back, because here's the deal. If John Jones 140 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: says I'm fighting again, it has to be Tom Aspinall. 141 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: How in the world can you say, I'm not really 142 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: buying into that. Is it just because he's been gone 143 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: so long that. 144 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: You just push it out out of your mind? 145 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 2: Hasn't become like Conny McGregor's become like con McGregor. 146 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 4: It's Connor McGregor saying. 147 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Now, if John Jones came back signed on the dotted 148 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: line that he was fighting Tom aspinall, yeah. 149 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: I'd be excited for it. I'd be in the front 150 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: row to watch it. 151 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: But the fact that he's dangling his carrot over our 152 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: head about fighting it completely is despicable. Like, just leave, man, 153 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: just leave it, Like, I mean, do you is it 154 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: really for attention? 155 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: Does he need attention that bad? 156 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: It feels like it feels like that, right if he 157 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: was kind of both do that every big moment. They 158 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: kind of attached themselves to the story to try to 159 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: make sure that their name stays relevant. 160 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: And I agree, I don't like that. 161 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: I don't love that so much when guys do that 162 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: when the story should be about to active fighters. But 163 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: if he decides he wants to fight, sure, I don't 164 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: think he has to have an option but to fight 165 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: that guy. Though he said it's good to be the 166 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: hunter now and not the hunted, I don't think. 167 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: It changes anything. 168 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: He's still the champion, right he walked away. 169 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: With a bill, He's still the champion. 170 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: He walked away, I mean, and you can't take away 171 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: what he's done in his career. It's Hall of Fame worthy. 172 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: John Jones is the greatest ever. But make a decision 173 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: and leave it at that. 174 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, make a decision. Leave it at that. 175 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: Don't keep rolling around playing with our emotions and the 176 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: fans emotions because you know they want to see you fight. 177 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, either fight or you hit the door. 178 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: Dean, and I actually agree, even though I just said 179 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: it much nicer. 180 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: Than my man Dean Thomas. 181 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: All Right, Dean, Alex Perrera just turned thirty eight years old. 182 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: Alex Purra has been a world win of a fighter 183 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: in the UFC. He's been an amazing ambassador for the UFC, 184 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: has been the most active champion for the UFC. Ultimately, 185 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: though he just lost his championship and as you age 186 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: it gets a little more difficult to keep up what 187 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: he was doing in terms of performances. So my question 188 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: to you, Deane is is it too late for Alex 189 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: or can Alex Perrera at this age still recapture what 190 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: made him such a lightning bolt of energy and positivity 191 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: in mixed martial arts. 192 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: There's no one in mma harder on older fighters than 193 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: I am. I've said it about Kamara Ousman and all 194 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: these other guys as they get older, I've said it's 195 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: too late for him. But I think Alex Paheeda is 196 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: the exception in this case for a couple of different reasons. 197 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 4: First Off, I. 198 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: Think he's got a style that limits or that actually 199 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: helps him in terms of his age. He doesn't move 200 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: his feet a lot, he doesn't wrestle a lot, and 201 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: he's just got power. The guy has running into so 202 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: he's not putting a lot of wear and tear on 203 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: his body and training probably and he definitely doesn't put 204 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: a lot of wear and tear on his body during fights. Secondly, 205 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: he is in top three worst divisions in the UFC, 206 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: top three worst divisions in the UFC really, which means 207 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: which means. 208 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 4: That all he's gotta do is probably not even fight again. 209 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: He could he should probably get in the media rematch 210 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: because there's no one else in the division really that 211 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: warrants a rematch or fight against Magematic and Coliath. 212 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: So what are the top what are the worst divisions 213 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: in the UFCD Light heavyweight So. 214 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: I'd tall light heavyweight is the is the three is 215 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: the number three, then I would say heavyweight, and then 216 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: I would say Women's bandonm weight. 217 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: Really you think those are the three worst divisions? Kill 218 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: Harrison is the champ there. 219 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: And I mean she came in and just beat everybody 220 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: up and seconds, So I mean, I mean it's the worst. 221 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: It's the three worst divisions in the UFC, right, Heavyweight, 222 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: heavyweight and Women's bandon weight. So Alex Maheta at thirty 223 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: eight can still go out there and win a championship 224 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: and still defend it probably three more times. 225 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: So my thing with Alex Feerra's right, I don't understand 226 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: how a guy who had such a long kickboxing career 227 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: doesn't carry more of the damage that you sustain in 228 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: that type of environment, especially when it's all striking. Right, 229 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: Alex Ferrera was a world champion kickboxer, and he doesn't. 230 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: Bro when you met when I met Showgun and I 231 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: met No Gerra, those guys they were walking like they 232 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: had the longest careers of all time. 233 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: Yo. 234 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: Them dudes are like in there or they were in 235 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: their early thirties, bro Jose, all those like thirty four 236 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: years old. But he like he carries the years of competition. 237 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like Para has that. 238 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: I don't understand and either. 239 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, I saw Minetoe at the fights a couple of 240 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: weeks ago. 241 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 4: He's my age. He looked like he was in his 242 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: early hundred. Yeah. I was like, how's this dude? How 243 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: is this dude my age? I mean he was. He 244 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: gave me a little deadfish handshake. 245 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: He looked hard, hard careers and hard training and hard 246 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: spar Remember the stories that we were to hear about 247 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: those guys back in the day, and I had I 248 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: trained with that guy when he was younger. Those were 249 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: some hard training sessions and those take a toll on him. 250 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: Pray hasn't seemed to have that now. 251 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: He got knocked out bad versus at a sign that 252 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: was a that one is very damaging. 253 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 4: Uh. 254 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: But outside of that, right, even the Unclaiath fight, he 255 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: didn't take that much damage. 256 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: He got controlled. 257 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: But my question to you is this right, does he 258 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: get an immediate rematch or does he want the media rematch? 259 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: Because how much better can he fight against Uncle Elijav. 260 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: Than he did the last one? Because Uncliab never took 261 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: him down? 262 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: I know, and you're right about that. I mean, that's 263 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: kind of the the big question and he do something different. 264 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he can do anything different, but I 265 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: do think that maybe he's just he's always one punch 266 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: away from changing the course of the fight. So that's 267 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: why I think that if you give him another twenty 268 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: five minutes against an Calive, he might find that punch. 269 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's his best chance of winning that 270 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: fight is to be able to find that punch. I 271 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: think he should get an immediate rematch because I don't 272 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: trust as much as I like Khalil Rowntree. 273 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: As dangerous says he is. 274 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: That abysmo performance he had in where was it uh 275 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: in Iserbaijan against Jamal Hill that did that despicable performance. 276 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: I mean he won the fight, but I thought it 277 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: was a terrible performance for ABC. 278 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: I thought, when you go out there you get a 279 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: this they play college football at that time, you're supposed 280 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: to go out there and show out. 281 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: I think dominated he dominated Jamal Hill. 282 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta, you gotta do a little more. 283 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: So I don't think he deserves the shot at the title. 284 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: I say give it to alex Pahea. 285 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, give for her another opportunity or help put Uri 286 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: in there, and maybe Yuri gets past Unclejab with Perrera. 287 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: I believe, even at thirty eight, is still very, very 288 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: valuable to this weight division. 289 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: Experience. 290 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: Round three D Sean. 291 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: Strickland is a lightning rod for information. So now he's 292 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: kind of getting into it with Dan Henderson, a great 293 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: legend from mixed martial arts history. He said, you know, 294 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: he got in a little argument matches with some of 295 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: the guys that thought he was going too hard. Dan 296 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: talking about practice. He said, then he would go online 297 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: and talk shit about him, and he did it a 298 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: little bit too much. It just more socially. I didn't 299 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: care what happened in the room. When you send it 300 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: out to everybody to hear all that shit, it's disrespectful 301 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: for your training partners, guys that are in there training 302 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: with you to help you out as well. 303 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 3: He just did it to in times. I warned him 304 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: a bunch. Finally, I said, hey, dude, you're done. You've 305 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: got to go. 306 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 2: Seawan replied on the Overdogs Instagram page, he said, none 307 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: of it's true. I was Dan's main training partner for 308 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: his last he retired. The fight team fell off, and 309 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: when it was time to renew my membership I left, 310 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: But he is correct. I would make fun of the 311 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: fight team constantly. They would do yoga and skip sparring, 312 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: laugh all about I'm talking Keith Barry, I'm talking about you. 313 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: Funny thing is we're both at extreme culture now and 314 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: we spar regularly. What do you make of all this 315 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: with Sean Strickland. 316 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: I think it's depressing. 317 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: Actually, really, I really do think it's depressing to hear 318 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: Sean Strickland tough like this, because the stories you hear 319 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: about Sean Strickland from every high level guy that I 320 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: noticed ever worked with him said that he's like the 321 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: best guy in the room. 322 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: And I believe that he could possibly be. 323 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: The best one hundred and eighty five pound fighter in 324 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: the world right now. 325 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: If he put his energy into actually fighting in the fight. 326 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: Sean. I gotta say this, I gotta say this. I 327 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: gotta say this. I like Sean Strickland. I think he's 328 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: I think he's an amazing fighter. 329 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: But after watching the Last Drinkers fight, I cannot allow 330 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: you to sit up on this and say he's the 331 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: best one eighty five. 332 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: That's my point list, that's my point. 333 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that I'm not doing it. 334 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: That's my point. 335 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: If he put the same amount of energy that he 336 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: does on fighting YouTubers and have him be with other people, 337 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,359 Speaker 1: If you put that energy into fighting the top contenders 338 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: in the big fights, he would be winning. 339 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: But he doesn't get that. 340 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: But he still fights hard, but that Drake has just 341 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: shut him down completely last time. 342 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: Look, I don't like I don't like gym stories getting 343 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: out like that. 344 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: There's one of the oldest rules in all of mixed 345 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: martial arts, and I don't even know where it started. 346 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: They have some things that are said time and time 347 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: again that just don't make sense, Like to be the man, 348 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: you gotta beat the man. If you win a belt, 349 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: you gotta defend it to be a champion. All that 350 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: is nonsense. Once you get that belt, you're a chance. 351 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: You don't have to beat the man to be the man. 352 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: That was Rick Flair, that was in professional wrestling. 353 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: Shit don't matter. 354 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: But when the band somebody said, what happens in the 355 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: gym stays in the gym, that's true because you see 356 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: people getting knocked out, you see some bad stuff inside 357 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: of a gym that you don't want to let the 358 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: world know because you want to protect your training partners. 359 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: So I gotta agree with Hiders here. I also saw 360 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: Sean Strickland getting to a fight with a guy that 361 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: choked out one of his teammates in the UH in 362 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: A in the smallest shot that was tough enough. Chris 363 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: Curtis was involved, too, mean, when is it enough? 364 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: It's enough? It's I mean, that's my point. 365 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: If he would take that energy, if he had that 366 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: energy against DDP in the in the fight with DDP, 367 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: he still had a belt. 368 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying, I'm it's depressing. 369 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: It's just the fact that he's so in the weeds 370 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: right now he can't see the big picture. Because when 371 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: his career is over, he's gonna look back and go, damn, 372 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: like he can't see it right now, your knucklehead. And 373 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure Eric Nixon tells him all the time, Hey man, 374 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: you gotta focus on your career, focus on doing the 375 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: right things, because you let these dudes beat you and 376 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: you better than them. 377 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: It's just it felt like last fight was the first 378 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: time I saw him and Eric not on the same page. 379 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Because for everything that Sean was, Sean and I have 380 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: had some great moments. I interview him every time he fights. 381 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: We've had some great. 382 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: Moments, all my stealing from Walmart and all kind of. 383 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: Stuff, but like he is, he usually is pretty locked 384 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: in in those regards. But last time was the first 385 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: time I felt like him and Eric weren't on the 386 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: same page in that fight. I don't like seeing pros 387 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: going into fights, especially the UFC caliber guys world champions, 388 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: fighting with guys on the smaller level because they beat 389 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: a team. I don't know what happened in that situation, 390 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: but you, as an elite mixed martial artist, especially a 391 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: UFC champion, you gotta be the guy that takes the 392 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: high role because we always have to. 393 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: Take the high role. I'm constantly getting disrespected. 394 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: I know, man, that used to bother me DC. I 395 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 4: ain't gonna lie to you, man. I know you, my dog. 396 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: I know we go on here, we go back and forth, 397 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: but you my dog. 398 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: Man, and I feel disrespected when people forget how good 399 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: you were and how much of us, how much of 400 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 1: an imprint you have on the game. I'm disrespected by that, 401 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: And you're right, Sean Strickler needed to take the high road. 402 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: On that and just let it go because he's supposed 403 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 4: to be the man. 404 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: When you saw that, what are you thinking? Like, those 405 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: guys are fighting in the occoland would have got it 406 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: just saw you gotta at least respect the guy enough to. 407 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: Floor that he just thought a fight exactly. 408 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: But I'm but for me, I'm more thir thinking like, dude, 409 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: where was that guy in the third round against Drinkus 410 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: while you just jabbing against Dracus. 411 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you throwing big right hands on the dude who 412 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: just had a fight. 413 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: Well, you gotta be careful, right, You gotta be careful. 414 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes whenever you are the biggest, baddest, right because he 415 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: does fight with YouTubers and he does beat up on 416 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: professional mixed martsh lardist, you gotta be very careful when 417 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: you meet that match that you're ready to step up 418 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: to the challenge. 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I saw him training 457 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: with coach Calavina in the garage down in Los Angeles. 458 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: And if you're training with that man, there is nothing 459 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: wrong with you. Because the way that he pushes his athletes, 460 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: the way that he works him to exhaustion, the way 461 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: that he really does test you mentally physically, that means 462 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: you cannot be injured. And if Hamsat Jamaia was to 463 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: have any issue with Drakens du plus C as we 464 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 2: saw with Gilbert Burnsa Kamora Huzman, it would be the 465 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: longer fight in the cardial There's a guy that can 466 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: get him ready. 467 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 3: It is coach Cal. 468 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: It seems like he's doing all the right things. But 469 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: hold on a minute. You do not look past DDP. 470 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: Time and time again, people want to disrespect this young man. 471 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: He is a dominant champion and he intends to get 472 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: the job done again at UFC three nineteen down in 473 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: chicag I can't wait. I was so bummed when I 474 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: heard that that fight may be canceled. But now that 475 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: I know Chamaiah's here, Chamaiah's in the United States, it's 476 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: all systems go, and there's nothing better in terms of 477 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: that thought to me as a guy that gets sitting 478 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: next to the octagon. Boy, it's gonna be good. I 479 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: cannot wait to USC three nineteen. Dan, Thank you again 480 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: for coming on, bro. I love challenging, I love going 481 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: back and forth with you. It's amazing. I love I 482 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: love this concept, and I love having you on the show. 483 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Dino, my man. 484 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 4: Always You're the man. 485 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: Guys, Until next time, like subscribe and tell your friends 486 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: to tell their friends that DC's got a YouTube channel. 487 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: I'm doing things like three rounds, check ins and so 488 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: much more every single week until next. 489 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: Time, Peace. 490 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: Hey and also been asking got his lung time transplants, guys, 491 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: So he's on the mend. I hope to have an 492 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: update for you guys next week on the Bend. But 493 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: I spoke to Amy recently and they were very happy 494 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: and thankful for all the love and support you guys 495 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: have given them, and also for the people and the 496 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: families that donated the lungs that are now allowing Bend 497 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: to start his road to recover. So again, until next time, Peace,