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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up Fire, Praam HiT's me Jason McIntyre Straight

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Speaker 2: Foyer for Thursday, January the eighth A football Orgy begins tonight.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I'm so fired up Miami Ole Miss and the

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Speaker 3: college football Playoff. It's being called the Fiesta Bowl. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't really matter what it's called. The games in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a banger, hopefully, and it thus kicks

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Speaker 3: off a just a rock Us Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Monday of high level playoff games across college football and

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Very stroked for that. I'm pumped up about

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Speaker 3: our guest clev Ta. You guys who have listened and

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Speaker 3: followed for the longest time have remember him from my

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Speaker 3: radio show. He was a guy on the internet. I

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Speaker 3: was like, Hey Jack, what about this, this and this?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, whoa, who are you? What is that?

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Speaker 3: And we started talking. He came on my radio show.

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Speaker 3: Now he goes on a bunch of podcasts, comes on

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Speaker 3: this one and we break down the best bets. Fortunately,

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Speaker 3: his best bet is similar to one that I absolutely love.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that, but first we got to start.

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Speaker 3: Holy cow, I did not see this coming.

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Speaker 4: Just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Trey Young has been sent away from Atlanta. He was

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Speaker 3: shipped to Washington last night. It's so weird because you

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Speaker 3: hear Trey Young and you're like, Oh, that dude's a star,

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Speaker 3: a leader of the Hawks, young guy, four time All Star,

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Speaker 3: very popular. Oh, who'd he get traded for? What was

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Speaker 3: the deal? Trey Young is heading to the Washington Wizards,

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Speaker 3: essentially in a salary dump for CJ. McCollum and Corey Kispert. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is the new NBA where the aprons are punitive,

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Speaker 3: and if you are making forty fifty million dollars a

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Speaker 3: year and not bringing much to the table, then you're

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Speaker 3: not gonna be getting one of those extensions.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 3: And when I say not much to the table, I

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Speaker 3: mean you've got to like outperform your contract to get

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Speaker 3: like Jalen Brown, who are gonna be making like seventy

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough to build a roster around him

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Speaker 3: making forty eight million dollars a year. So I don't know,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think anybody does. Where do the salaries

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Speaker 3: go from here? So Trey Young obviously will take a haircut.

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Speaker 3: But is he now a thirty million dollar guy? Is

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Speaker 3: he a twenty? Is he fifteen? If Trey Young is

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Speaker 3: your third best player, are you a title contender? And

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Speaker 3: the problem is the league is so stacked with point guards.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the deepest positions in the league. That unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: as much as I like Trey Young and his offensive

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Speaker 3: guys in the league, folks, if you just look at

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Speaker 3: the point guards, I don't know that Trey Young is

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Speaker 3: one of the best ten point guards in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that. So we can go Kate Cunningham

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Speaker 3: is obviously very good. I mean, hell, Josh Giddy, who's

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Speaker 3: not much of a shooter and doesn't defend great, is

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Speaker 3: having like a career year. And Josh Giddy, you could

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Speaker 3: argue that he belongs in the top ten above Trey Young. Now,

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Speaker 3: now that might be a stretch to some people, but again,

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Speaker 3: it depends on the metric you want to use. So

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Speaker 3: I'll just humor you guys and go with per PR rating,

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Speaker 3: so they will occasionally let you break it down by

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Speaker 3: point guards. But like Sga is considered a point guard,

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Speaker 3: he's obviously better. If Luca is a point guard, we

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Speaker 3: know he's better. I don't know that Donovan Mitchell is

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Speaker 3: technically a point guard. You know he's better. Tyrese Max

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Speaker 3: he's a point guard. He's way better and has a

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Speaker 3: much higher per than Trey Young as Austin reeves. No, well,

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Speaker 3: he can't be the point guard, right if Luca is

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Speaker 3: Steph Curry. I mean you've got to go a long

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Speaker 3: has a player efficiency rating. He's thirtieth in the league.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking, I still don't see Trey Young. I mean,

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Speaker 3: here we are Denny Avdia, who everybody loves in Portland.

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Speaker 3: He's forty one. So of the front page is fifty

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Speaker 3: He lands at fifty seven now. He has only played

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Speaker 3: he doesn't defend it all, and when he's on the court,

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Speaker 3: does everything good but nothing exceptional. I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: Young up point guard, Keishawn George at the shooting guard,

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Speaker 3: he's twenty two. Billal Kulababi kulabally is your small forward,

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Speaker 3: sar is twenty. Essentially, they've got a young core in

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make us better. I'm gonna carry this team.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to be a veteran presence in the

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Speaker 3: sounds like the seasons over. Guys, they're in the East. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they're only seven and a half games out of the

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Speaker 3: play in. Is it possible for Trey Young to get

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Speaker 3: them to the plane you've got over? You probably got

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Speaker 3: forty five games left. Maybe forty five to forty eight

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Speaker 3: year the Wizard's perform in. I don't know, let's just

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Speaker 3: best case scenario in the East. They finish sixth, seventh,

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Speaker 3: six seventh, somewhere around there. You're telling me that Trey

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Speaker 3: Young all of a sudden doesn't have value. Will look

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Speaker 3: what he can be like around young good players and

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Speaker 3: you prove your worth and I think it could be done.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm not totally selling all my Trey

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Speaker 3: in just a tad simply because he's been awful when

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Speaker 3: he's been on the court for the Hawks. All Right,

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Speaker 3: without further ado, let's get to our guest, the venerable

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Speaker 3: clef Ta.

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Speaker 4: I know what sports dance wants.

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Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome back to straight fire. You know

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Speaker 3: him by now. It's been closed to a decade talking

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Speaker 3: NFL chopping up lines. It's Wildcard weekend. I don't think

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Speaker 3: they're calling it Super Wildcard weekend anymore, but we're bringing

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Speaker 3: in our super guest Ta clev Analytics. How you doing,

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Speaker 3: my man?

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Speaker 4: Good, Jason, I can't believe we're in a playoff time. Uh,

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Speaker 4: it's one of those where it just goes by so quick,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna miss the regular season and watching red

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Speaker 4: Zone and ten games at the same time. But playoffs

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Speaker 4: should be interesting this year.

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Speaker 3: Dirty little secret is these Island games, they're hit and miss.

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of commercials. Red Zone is just

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Speaker 3: moooment we record this Wednesday afternoon. Tay, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: is there a game on the board that that just

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Speaker 3: to talk about like that you already bet?

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Speaker 4: So I bet two. I bet one side and one

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Speaker 4: it was a game that I liked as well. And

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Speaker 4: that's the Chargers getting three and a half. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 4: and it's funny because I've seen a lot of people

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Speaker 3: I mean, sharp people are just randos both both really no, wait,

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Speaker 3: this was it four. I got four minus one twelve,

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Speaker 4: So here here's my case. Like, for one, the Chargers

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Speaker 4: they face nobody and so like to me, this is

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Speaker 4: a big step up. You know, Josh Allen got them twice.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Do you think that's because the Raiders have

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Speaker 4: Because this is efficiency. So this is percentage of play.

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Speaker 4: One thing I didn't mention, and something that you've probably

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Speaker 3: As well for you there or no, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Touching the total, but I think because I do think

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Speaker 4: I'm not messing with the total here, So.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at you know, it doesn't mean a

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Speaker 4: Lost their they lost to Buffalo, they win and win

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Speaker 3: Right, well, they beat Buffalo, they lost to the Steelers

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Speaker 4: They speak, Yeah, they split with buffal I mean Carolina

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Speaker 3: I mean, especially in the first five weeks. So essentially

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Speaker 4: And by the way, that Ravens game, they were down

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big number, and I'll go through it.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's gonna steinmy some of the scoring

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Speaker 3: I like that. And plus, Jacksonville has that huge weapon

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Speaker 3: in Cam Little, So it feels like, if it's a

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Speaker 3: low scoring game, mate, just just take the points with Cam.

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Speaker 3: He's dangerous from inside sixty essentially inside sixty five maybe.

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Speaker 3: And Buffalo's kicker is not great. Their situation is kind

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Speaker 3: of ugly. I'm on the first half Jags here. Have

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Speaker 3: you noticed the bill slow starts starting in November? I mean,

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Speaker 3: so Putrid didn't score an offensive touchdown against Houston, scored

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Speaker 3: one against the Patriots, and that they needed a huge

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Speaker 3: comeback zero against the Eagles. They just, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: they start slow and then Josh Allen puts them on

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Speaker 3: their back. Do you think Buffalo wins this?

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Speaker 4: By the way, By the way, if you exclude the

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Speaker 4: Browns and the two Jets games, so.

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Speaker 3: You know, the three take out the crap games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those those are like the only games that covered

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Speaker 4: in the first half. I don't think they've got cover

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Speaker 4: another game in the first half all year. So against

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Speaker 4: anybody with a pulse, you know they're undefeated or not.

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Speaker 4: The other way, they're they're kind of over I I

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Speaker 4: don't have an opinion on the side. I can make

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Speaker 4: a case for both. I think, you know, on one end,

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Speaker 4: you've got I think the better overall team is Jacksonville.

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Speaker 4: I think the more the more well rounded team is Jacksonville.

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Speaker 4: But then the other side of the wall, you've got

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Like it's it's such a it's almost like

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Speaker 4: the Mahomes effect from prior years that you know, Casey

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Speaker 4: was maybe not as good as some of their opponents,

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Speaker 4: but you always have Mahomes to lean on, especially in these,

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Speaker 4: you know, clutch moments. So it's just really hard for me.

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Speaker 4: I think, if you know, if you if you did

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Speaker 4: blind resume, you'd easily take Jacksonville here. But you know,

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Speaker 4: once I know who the quarterback is and the fact

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Speaker 4: that like if it's tight late, I will say, the

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Speaker 4: fact that the special teams is such an advantage for

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville with their kicker versus you know, I think Matt

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Speaker 4: Prater's out. They had to like sign a kicker off

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Speaker 4: the street, so that's that's gonna be a big deal.

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Speaker 4: I think they'll go for it more often, by the way,

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Speaker 4: which again with Josh Allen it was just fine. But

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a really interesting game.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a toss up and I don't really

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Speaker 4: have a strong opinion either way, but I can make

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Speaker 4: a strong case for both.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember last year. I think

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Speaker 3: it was either you or churn Off. But I in

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Speaker 3: before the season started, you were like you Chiefs Eagles

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Speaker 3: super Bowl, and I think that was okay, and it

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Speaker 3: was just an incredible it was awesome. So I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to duplicate it, and I've got some still alive. But

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Speaker 3: I have like no I had back in August, no Seahawks,

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Speaker 3: no Broncos in the Super Bowl exactly. So I'm just curious,

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Speaker 3: do you have a matchup that you hadn't having value.

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Speaker 3: I know these are kind of a dart throw more

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Speaker 3: so than like first touchdown or what have you, But

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Speaker 3: I just wonder, do you do you think the Seahawks

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Speaker 3: can really are really going to get to the.

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl or the Broncos. So here's the thing, So

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Speaker 4: I was asked this earlier. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 4: most why. I mean, it's not a controversial take. This

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Speaker 4: is the most wide open playoffs I've ever seen, especially

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Speaker 4: in the AFC and to me the NFC. I just

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Speaker 4: think it's Rams. They're the best team. Now they have

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Speaker 4: to face it, they have to play an extra they'll

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Speaker 4: probably have to play back to back road games here.

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Speaker 4: But I just think if you just check, they check

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Speaker 4: all the boxes. They have the fewest flaws they I mean,

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Speaker 4: all of their losses have been close games. You know,

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Speaker 4: they haven't been blown out at all. You could say

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Speaker 4: the same thing pretty much about Seattle too, But I

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Speaker 4: just think the Rams are the better overall teams, especially

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Speaker 4: when you you know you need Donold to win three games,

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Speaker 4: three tough games. I just can't can't get there. As

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Speaker 4: great as their defense is, and we've already seen McVeigh

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Speaker 4: in that offense dice right through Mike McDonald's defense on

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Speaker 4: that Thursday night without Devonte Adams. So they get him back.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's it's Rams on the NFC side

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Speaker 4: and the AFC. You know, I mapped out I think

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Speaker 4: each team has has flaws. Obviously we talked about the

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Speaker 4: Patriots flaws. I don't see them getting I don't see

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Speaker 4: them getting the super Bowl with a new quarterback second

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Speaker 4: year without having to face these You know, they haven't

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Speaker 4: faced good teams all year. All of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna beat three good teams. It's really hard to do that.

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Speaker 4: I don't buy bone Nicks and this Denver team at all.

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Speaker 4: Like I think they're losing a round two no matter

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Speaker 4: who they' play. Give me the Chargers, right, you know?

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Speaker 4: So the Chargers, if they somehow were able to avoid

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Speaker 4: Houston and maybe even Denver, I think they would have

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Speaker 4: a chance. I mapped it out as much as I can.

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Speaker 4: You know what I ended up coming up with the most?

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Speaker 3: Hold on? Let me let me guess one for you?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Texans Seahawks Texans Rams thirty to one is not a

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Speaker 5: bad is like a fund. I wanted to have a

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Speaker 5: flyer prior to the playoffs, and normally I wouldn't do

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Speaker 5: that because it's like you usually get the one or

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Speaker 5: two seed is kind of obvious and it's very hard

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Speaker 5: to beat.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's so wide open, and I wanted

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Speaker 4: to have like a fun flyer. The Texans. To me,

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Speaker 4: first of all, I think they win again. Whether they

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Speaker 4: cover or not, I don't know, but I think they

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Speaker 4: win this week against the Steelers. Well, it depends on

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Speaker 4: the other side, but I believe it would be I

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Speaker 4: believe it would be Denver and.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I thought the lowest seed goes Let's say the.

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Speaker 4: Charger, it's Buffalo. Like let's say Buffalo wins, it would

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Speaker 4: be Buffalo. Then, yeah, it would be it would be

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Speaker 4: you're right, if it's Jacksonville. If Jacksonville wins, then Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: would face the two seed, which would be New England.

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Speaker 4: And then it would be one seed Denver would face Houston,

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Speaker 4: because I believe Jacksonville's higher than Houston. Right, they won

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Speaker 4: the division. Jacksonville's three yeah, one fourth, you know, and

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Speaker 4: then or sorry, one six, three four, So one six

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Speaker 4: would be Buffalo, Denver. Three four would be uh Jacksonville,

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Speaker 4: You're right, Jacksonville, or sorry, Houston, New England. Sorry again,

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I think Houston did a great spot facing Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: By the way.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it wouldn't matter to me whether it's

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Speaker 4: New England or Denver. I guess that's the moral of

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Speaker 4: the story. I'm perfectly Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Neither of those teams scare you, but the NFC is

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Speaker 3: the tougher one. So if the Rams win, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't see the Niners winning. I don't do you.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, the Niners. It's a terrible matchup, looks like,

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Speaker 4: and they're injured. I'll play.

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Speaker 3: So then the other team, who's the other team, Carolina

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Speaker 3: is not it would be the Rams. The Rams are

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Speaker 3: going to be Carolina. Oh, oh, Packers, I guess could

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Speaker 3: win and then they'd go to Seattle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's also yeah Packers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with that game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's talk about the game, because that might

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Speaker 4: be another one. I'm gonna bet I have to look

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Speaker 4: at some of the weather issues. I think green Bay

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Speaker 4: is in a good spot. I think green Bay is

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Speaker 4: a better team Chicago. When you look at some of

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Speaker 4: my numbers, I know you subscribe to my site. So

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Speaker 4: I've talked about what a stat that I've used for

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Speaker 4: a number of years. It's a fourth quarter. It called

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Speaker 4: blended fourth quarter win percentage versus expected It's similar to

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Speaker 4: the Pythagorean point differential, So essentially looking at point differential

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Speaker 4: and comparing it to actual win loss record, and if

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Speaker 4: you see a gap there, that's like potential for you know,

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Speaker 4: a team that's overachieving underachieving. Similar similar idea here, but

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Speaker 4: essentially like if you're if you're winning a bunch of

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Speaker 4: games late in the fourth quarter, you know you're overachieving,

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Speaker 4: and vice versa. In Chicago's is I think the second

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Speaker 4: biggest overachiever behind Denver in this playoffs. Green Bay is

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Speaker 4: one of the biggest underachievers. They you know, they blew

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Speaker 4: that game against Chicago right a few weeks ago on

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Speaker 4: the road, Like that's a perfect example. I think now

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Speaker 4: that that you know, Love's back, Josh Jacob said, today

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Speaker 4: is the healthiest has been all year. They get back

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Speaker 4: Zach thom at tackle. You know, the defense has some holes.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna have to stop the run. But I think

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Speaker 4: when it comes down to it, I think green Bay

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Speaker 4: is the better team. So I do think green Bay

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Speaker 4: is gonna win. My only concern is it looks like

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Speaker 4: there's gonna be a good amount of wind in Chicago

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Speaker 4: on Sunday night or set Saturday night. And you know,

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Speaker 4: green Bay relies a lot on the deep ball, so

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Speaker 4: if that is limited, that's gonna hurt them a bit.

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Speaker 4: But I do think green Bay is the better team.

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Speaker 4: So I personally am looking to take Green Bay. And

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Speaker 4: one thing that I look at, I went back historically

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Speaker 4: over twenty years and said, in the wildcard round, when

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Speaker 4: I have such a substantial difference in again you got

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Speaker 4: the Caleb Williams first start, by the way, just similar

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Speaker 4: to Jake by No, you have when you have a

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Speaker 4: substantial gap between you know, the win percentage versus expected,

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Speaker 4: that that fourth quarter win percentage versus expected and Green

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Speaker 4: Bay is well underachieved versus Chicago. When you have that

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Speaker 4: and you have the fact that the opponent is starting

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Speaker 4: a quarterback who's never started a playoff game, it significantly

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Speaker 4: tilts in the favor of the team like green Bay.

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Speaker 4: On top of like my model like in green Bay

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Speaker 4: and just me thinking they're a better team overall. So

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Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna end up taking green Bay. I just

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Speaker 4: want to make sure that it's not like crazy Wind,

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Speaker 4: because I think from a run game perspective, I do

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Speaker 4: think Chicago does have a little bit of advantage there.

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Speaker 3: Howard was saying that snow is expected now in Chicago,

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Speaker 3: so this game it could be a little wacky. The

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Speaker 3: only thing I don't like for what you said is

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Speaker 3: Packers win means they then go to Seattle. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that they have the offense to beat Seattle.

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Speaker 4: I actually, I mean they're a hit or miss team.

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Speaker 4: They're not like a team that you're gonna get five

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Speaker 4: yards at a time and feel comfortable like they're going

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Speaker 4: to hit a couple of explosives and that's how they

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Speaker 4: beat you. But yeah, I mean it's not going to

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Speaker 4: be an easy game. And not saying I would pick

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Speaker 4: Green Bay, but I think if you're a Rams backer,

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Speaker 4: you know, and you don't have to go go to

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Speaker 4: seatt until you do you absolutely have to, then I

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Speaker 4: feel I feel a lot better about it. But you know,

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Speaker 4: I'd rather play Philly. Like if the Rams play Philly,

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Speaker 4: rams are gonna be favored. It might surprise some people,

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Speaker 4: but they're probably gonna be one and a half two

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Speaker 4: point favorites in Philly.

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Speaker 3: I don't think crushing Philly in that matchup before it

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Speaker 3: come back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then obviously a block field go for a touchdown,

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Speaker 4: but I would I would back I would back the

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Speaker 4: Rams there for sure. And then you know, look, then

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Speaker 4: it's either Seattle green Bay and if you if it's

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Speaker 4: green Bay, then you get them at home. And if

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Speaker 4: it's Seattle, then that they can beat them on the road.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with that. So anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think for fun long shot like matchup ticket, I

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Speaker 4: do think Houston versus Rams is an interesting matchup.

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Speaker 3: All right. The site is Cleve Analytics. He's great, he's fun.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Can I quickly ask you who do

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Speaker 3: you want to coach a Browns?

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Speaker 4: Who do I want? Or who do I think they'll get?

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Speaker 3: Okay, find want and then realistic. I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you want someone awesome.

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Speaker 4: But well, I mean John Harball would be great, right,

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Speaker 4: And and I just think they need like culture kind

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Speaker 4: of culture reset. They need an adult in the room.

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Speaker 4: They've never had a quarterback or a coach like him

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Speaker 4: who demands respect. I do think the game's passed by

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Speaker 4: a tad ye like. I think some of the decisions

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Speaker 4: he made, like not running the ball with twelve seconds

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Speaker 4: left with Derrick Henry and instead going backwards three yards

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Speaker 4: for that field goal was a major mistake. But generally speaking,

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Speaker 4: I think he can really reset the culture in the

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Speaker 4: locker room. And by the way, he does have Cleveland

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Speaker 4: tis his parents were born in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: He's not staying in the division broke.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, you know, it's not impossible, like

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Speaker 4: it's not a complete pipe dream. But otherwise I don't know, man,

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Speaker 4: Like I'm not in these interviews. I've learned a long

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Speaker 4: time ago that I think the best coaches these days,

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Speaker 4: unless you're just an elite play caller like a Shanahan

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Speaker 4: or McVeigh, is really just a good like a CEO

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Speaker 4: type like Tomlin. I don't think is a great quote

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Speaker 4: unquote coach, but he's such a good CEO. He's such

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Speaker 4: a good leader of men. He lets his coordinators do

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Speaker 4: their jobs if you hire the right staff, I just

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Speaker 4: want a good CEO, so you know, I'm open to

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Speaker 4: the best CEO type. And then if you're talking about

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Speaker 4: just pure coordinator like Clint Kubiak, I think is a

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Speaker 4: good coordinator, so maybe he's worth a look. And then

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Speaker 4: I do think that Chris Shula and Jesse Mint are

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Speaker 4: really smart defensive minds, young defensive minds who you know,

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Speaker 4: come with a good pedigree. So those are guys that

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Speaker 4: I think are all interesting for the books.

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Speaker 3: So they cannot wait to coach Door Sanders. All right,

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Speaker 3: cleve Ta, he's the guy. Well, I'm sure we'll bring

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Speaker 3: you on in the office. He's good luck this weekend, buddy,

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Speaker 3: Thanks you too,