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Speaker 1: created this podcast to open dialogue about some of life's

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Speaker 1: Only about fifty percent of Americans vote in presidential election.

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Speaker 1: In most developed countries, it's closer to sevent in some

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Speaker 1: countries like Australia. Uh in Australia, you are required to

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Speaker 1: vote and if you don't vote, there is a fine.

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Speaker 1: So they have been Australia, it's called compulsory voting, and

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Speaker 1: over of all Australians vote. It's a part of your

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Speaker 1: civic duty, like just like, yeah, you pay taxes, you

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Speaker 1: should be forced to vote. It makes sense and and

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Speaker 1: so and in Australia is not the only country that

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Speaker 1: does that. And so we have just about fifty percent participation.

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Speaker 1: And and what that means is when so few people

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Speaker 1: participate is the average American is a non voter. And

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Speaker 1: even people that we that you and I know, that

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Speaker 1: we think are voting, they're not voting. We should assume

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Speaker 1: that half of our friends, half of our followers, they're not.

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Speaker 1: And some of it is that they're so busy. Some

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Speaker 1: of it is that they're confused on where they vote.

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Speaker 1: Some people don't know if they're properly registered. So we

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Speaker 1: can tweet it and post it an instagram it, but

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Speaker 1: there's still just a real low understanding that people have

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Speaker 1: on how and where to vote. It's it's partly because

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Speaker 1: of our system. It's super unclear. Um and that's what

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Speaker 1: we're recorded. I think that's done on purpose. Because you

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Speaker 1: said something last night we were talking about, is that

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Speaker 1: you can go to an airport now stick your fingers

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Speaker 1: on a device, or let them look at your who

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Speaker 1: the hell you are? Right? How is it possible that

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Speaker 1: we don't have this technology? They'll just vote wherever you are,

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Speaker 1: regardless of where there should be something in place. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can do so many things electronically now, you know,

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Speaker 1: you go to the airport, you look in the machine,

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Speaker 1: clear looks at your eyes, and it knows who you are.

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Speaker 1: Why can't we do something like that? We could, But

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Speaker 1: the real answer to that is there are people in

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Speaker 1: power who understand that they will stay in power when

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Speaker 1: fewer people vote. And we could absolutely have sophisticated technological

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Speaker 1: systems that are safe, secure, just like like you said,

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Speaker 1: just like clear at the airport. We could have those

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Speaker 1: types of things. But our our country also spends so

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Speaker 1: little money developing our infrastructure, not just our voting infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: but anything from roads to bridges, to our school systems

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Speaker 1: to our health care systems. So all of these things

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Speaker 1: are underdeveloped, and it's it's the American way in some ways.

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Speaker 1: And so I was gonna say, we saw just this

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Speaker 1: past week in Origin of people waiting in line for

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Speaker 1: ten to twelve hours to vote, and I and we

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Speaker 1: called that voter suppression. I saw people say, well, why

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Speaker 1: is that voter suppression? Well, it's voter suppression because people

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Speaker 1: were passing out in line, people had to leave and

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Speaker 1: go work, people had to leave and go pick up

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Speaker 1: their kids. Yeah, it's a it's a way to discourage

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Speaker 1: people from voting. And yeah, it's frustrating, super frustrating. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's also now the question to that, you know, what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen at forty five decides that he will

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Speaker 1: not peacefully leave his seat, you know, if he's not

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Speaker 1: re elected in November. So what do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: Are there any legal protections that are in place to

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Speaker 1: prevent this, or how can we prepare for something like

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Speaker 1: this because a lot of people are saying there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a whole civil war if if things don't

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Speaker 1: go his way come November three. Well, first, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: has all but said publicly over and over again that

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Speaker 1: he already thinks this this elect is rigged, that the

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Speaker 1: voting is rigged against him. He's already kind of projected

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Speaker 1: that after election day he's not just going to accept

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Speaker 1: the results the way we've seen every other presidential administration

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Speaker 1: before this. Due the difference is if you go all

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Speaker 1: the way back to two thousand when there was a

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Speaker 1: contested election that went all the way to the Supreme Board.

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Speaker 1: The difference was neither one of them were incumbents. They

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Speaker 1: were Bill Clinton had his final term, and so it

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Speaker 1: wasn't like one of them could just say I'm staying

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Speaker 1: in office. Well, now we're going to get a contested

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Speaker 1: election against someone who already has the position, and we've

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Speaker 1: never really had someone like Donald Trump as president, and

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Speaker 1: so they're they're probably three scenarios. The first is is

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Speaker 1: difficult but possible, and this would be the best scenario,

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Speaker 1: is that Joe Biden wins on election day in enough

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Speaker 1: states that can declare their winner, that he wins by

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Speaker 1: a landslide, in enough states that say we certify that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden wins that on election night, he actually crosses

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Speaker 1: two d and seventy delegates and the media declares him

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Speaker 1: a winner. Joe Biden may not, I mean, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: may not immediately accept it, but that's the best case scenario,

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Speaker 1: is that Joe Biden crosses to seventy. And I've seen

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Speaker 1: a couple pundits kind of show where Joe Biden would

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Speaker 1: have to win for that to happen, he he would

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Speaker 1: have to win almost every contested state if he won

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Speaker 1: in a shocking way, if he won like Texas or

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Speaker 1: something like that, then that would easily push him over

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Speaker 1: that the more likely scenario. And this is not like

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Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory or doomsday. Because of the pandemic, tens

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Speaker 1: of millions of Americans have already voted by mail, and

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Speaker 1: that's okay, and I don't want to discourage anybody from

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Speaker 1: doing that, but about half of American states don't begin

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Speaker 1: counting those ballots until the end of election day. And

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Speaker 1: and so what that means is for twenty states where

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Speaker 1: millions of people have voted by mail, those votes don't

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Speaker 1: start to count until late on election night. In those

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Speaker 1: states are already saying like, hey, it's gonna take us

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Speaker 1: several days to count them. So to be fair to

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and for a moment, if I was if

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Speaker 1: I was president and no one crossed the two seventy

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Speaker 1: thresholds and there were still millions of votes out, if

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Biden or Donald Trump, I'm gonna say no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: You're not a winner because these votes have not all

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Speaker 1: been counted. Now, not only would Donald Trump be right

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Speaker 1: to say that? And we have to say this because

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Speaker 1: the roles may be reversed where Donald Trump tries to

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Speaker 1: declare himself a winner before votes in Arizona and Ohio

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Speaker 1: and Wisconsin have been counted, and say say Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is up on election night in some of those states,

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Speaker 1: but none of the mail in violets have been counted,

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Speaker 1: then Joe Biden has to be the one to say

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Speaker 1: on election night, hold on, tens of millions of votes

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Speaker 1: have not even been counted yet, you can't declare yourself

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Speaker 1: a winner. That's probably where we're going to be. And

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Speaker 1: that's not a doomsday scenario. It's just it's a result

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Speaker 1: of the pandemic. And there is a small chance that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden could win on election night. I don't see

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Speaker 1: a good chance of Donald Trump winning on a let

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Speaker 1: He could still win, but I don't think that he

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Speaker 1: would honestly win on election night. Um, the more likely

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Speaker 1: scenario is it's going to take a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it's gonna be difficult, man. Well, rounding things

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Speaker 1: out with you, Sean, because I know you have a

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Speaker 1: lot going on, so you we just want to talk

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Speaker 1: real quick about we had an opportunity to actually speak

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Speaker 1: with presidential hopeful Biden UM about his campaign, and we,

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Speaker 1: you know, we believe that the conversations like that are necessary,

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Speaker 1: especially for the black community, UM, and especially now. UM.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of people are really feeling like they're

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Speaker 1: just going to have to choose between the lesser of

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Speaker 1: two evils. You have you know, Kamala Harris, her record

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Speaker 1: as a prosecutor, you have him in the legacy of

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Speaker 1: the ninety four crime bill. UM. People are rightfully leery

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Speaker 1: of their willingness to be able to bring positive change,

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Speaker 1: especially to people of color. So, you know, giving their reputations, UM,

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Speaker 1: what what do we have to look forward to if

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Speaker 1: they're elected? How we can how can we continue to

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Speaker 1: put pressure on Harris and Biden to meet our needs

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Speaker 1: and demands if they are to be elected into office.

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Speaker 1: So I was a huge critic of Joe Biden, and UM,

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Speaker 1: I am I'm not a Joe Biden fan. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a Joe by a sup order. UM. I've I've written

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Speaker 1: long pieces about his record on mass incarceration and criminal

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Speaker 1: justice in general. I have to remind people, though, that

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Speaker 1: in all elections, not just presidential elections, but in governor's

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Speaker 1: races and mayor's races, often your favorite candidate doesn't win.

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Speaker 1: So I work with the Bernie Sanders campaign. I love Bernie,

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Speaker 1: I loved his policies, I trust his integrity, and but

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Speaker 1: Bernie's not the nominee. And and so for me, as

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Speaker 1: as I am one of those people who have a

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Speaker 1: huge beef with Joe Biden, I think Joe Biden on

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Speaker 1: his worst day, and then I say this as somebody

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Speaker 1: who was incredibly critical of him, is still better than

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Speaker 1: the best version of Donald Trump. The Donald Trump he

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Speaker 1: has now told. According to the Washington Post, they have

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Speaker 1: a live tracker. Why they tracked how many lives details

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Speaker 1: every day he's told twenty three thousand lies, which is

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Speaker 1: the most any human being has ever been measured to do.

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Speaker 1: Three thousand. That's just in the three and a half

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Speaker 1: years of his administration. And those are just the public

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Speaker 1: lives that we know of. On a good day, he's

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Speaker 1: dishonest on a on a good day for him, he's

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Speaker 1: still a bigot. And and so even Donald Trump's role

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Speaker 1: in mismanaging the pandemic, all of those things. When I

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Speaker 1: go to vote, and I haven't voted by mail, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go either vote on election day or vote on

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Speaker 1: an early voting day. I am not pumped up and

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Speaker 1: charged about voting for Joe Biden. In a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to vote against Donald Trump. With all of

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Speaker 1: that said, I have several friends who work for the

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden campaign, friends and I love and trust. I've

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Speaker 1: had several dear friends who have endorsed him and have

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Speaker 1: helped craft some of his policies. We will have not

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Speaker 1: just more access but leverage with Joe Biden. Um. When

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden appoints judges or Supreme Court justices, all of

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Speaker 1: those things, we are way more likely to get people

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Speaker 1: who not only look like us, but agree with the

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Speaker 1: way we see the world. And I plan on when

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is elected, just for me personally, I plan

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Speaker 1: on going kind of back to my role as a

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Speaker 1: critic of Joe Biden. I've tried to hold some of

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Speaker 1: that back during this campaign, but some of us need

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Speaker 1: to hold him accountable, and that that kind of what

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Speaker 1: I see my role as See It's funny because I've

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Speaker 1: taken this stance and educated myself on American history, understanding

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Speaker 1: that throughout time, the difference between Republican politics and democratic

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Speaker 1: politics has been overt racism versus covert racism, and crime

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Speaker 1: Bill has been in a perfect example of that. But

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Speaker 1: when we're choosing a and I try to tell people,

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Speaker 1: you're choosing someone to sit in a position, but you're

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Speaker 1: choosing someone that's also going to choose a cabinet and

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Speaker 1: also appoint judges. So for me, when it comes to voting,

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Speaker 1: I want to vote someone who was going to I'm

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Speaker 1: going to vote someone in who was going to think

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Speaker 1: about people who not only look like me, but people

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Speaker 1: who are also dealing with similar struggles who don't look

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Speaker 1: like me. Because ultimately, it's not only about just being

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Speaker 1: a black man. What about black women, what about the

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Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, What about all of the other different demographics

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Speaker 1: and misrepresented people in the government. If we continue to

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Speaker 1: vote the same old seventy plus white males into office,

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Speaker 1: they're only going to focus on that demographic. And for me,

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Speaker 1: that's what needs to change. It's not just about the

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Speaker 1: black rhetoric and whatever, because it's important that we've had

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Speaker 1: a black president before, and even during that eight year presidency,

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Speaker 1: we felt neglected once again, we felt neglected and I

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Speaker 1: think it's fair for us to hold people accountable. I

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Speaker 1: feel like now is the time where we use our

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Speaker 1: voices and we speak about not just the policies of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, but the cabinet he's gonna put in and

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Speaker 1: the judges he can appoint. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Well, Sean,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you. We thank you so much for joining us.

646
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Speaker 1: We know you have to run. Hopefully we can do

647
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: this again. You're also an alumni and Black Love Doctors

648
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, I love that. Yeah, those are my people,

649
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad we get to to tell our

650
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Speaker 1: stories there. You know today you're interviewing me, but uh,

651
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: so much of why I am who I am as

652
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: because of my wife and and we've been together so

653
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Speaker 1: I'm forty one, we've been together since we were fifteen

654
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: and sixteen, and you know, so much of what I

655
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Speaker 1: do I do not just because she empowers me to

656
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: do it, but she really makes it, makes my whole

657
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: world work. She's a great I'm a terrible manager, guilty, guilty,

658
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: And uh I've tried to get better. I don't just

659
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to grow and get better every day

660
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: at that. But without her, yeah, you wouldn't even know

661
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: me without her better complementing those those weaknesses and elevating

662
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: the strength. So thank you so much, Sean for taking

663
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: the time. Love to you, Love to your family. We're

664
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: gonna pray for you always, perfect family, Keep fighting. Anything

665
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: we can do to help get the information out, um continue.

666
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: Hopefully we can keep this line of communication any any way.

667
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: We can use our platforms to to push anything that

668
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: you want to push forward. Man, we're here for sure.

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00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate his honesty, you know what I'm saying. If

670
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: people really look at history, anytime a black person, not

671
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: just a black man, black person, black man, a black

672
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: woman decided to speak up for the injustices done to

673
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: black people, they're often villainized. And I can honestly say

674
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: I think that this is happening to Sean, and I

675
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: wish the best for him and his family, because it's

676
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: not easy to sit where he's sitting. It really isn't.

677
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: We can all sit back and throw stones and say

678
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: he should be doing this, he should be doing that,

679
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Why isn't this happening? But until you're able to sit

680
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: down and discuss things and see the work he's doing,

681
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: you can't agree. I agreed. I mean it takes a

682
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: lot to put himself and his family out on the

683
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: forefront like this. So um, major respect out to you,

684
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: Sean King. All Right, you know what, let's take a

685
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: quick break. Um, we had a lot going on in

686
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: this episode so far. Let's move into listener letters after

687
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: we get into some ads. All right, so stick around.

688
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: All right, So we're back. Now. That was a heavy episode,

689
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: very important, very educational, enlightening. Hopefully you guys are registered

690
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: to vote and you get out there and let your

691
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: voices be heard. But right now we're gonna get into

692
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: some listener. I just kind of lightened things up a

693
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Speaker 1: little bit. I see you with the black leather on,

694
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I see you a little Angela Davis makes me feel

695
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: a little you know. So I got on a white shirt.

696
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Speaker 1: Letters are black and it says radical, Right, you want

697
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: to be that radical change? You see that radical? But

698
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: a black letters got to be on the white shirt.

699
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're hilarious. Alright, So let's start with

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Speaker 1: this first. Listen to letter, alright, he says, Listen, I

701
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: have recently gotten to a place where I feel like

702
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: I have done so much growth. I went through therapy

703
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: to work on some of my issues I saw within

704
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: myself and the pattern I saw in my family. So

705
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: I feel like a new person. I'm alright, just graduated

706
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: from grad school, talk about it, and I live on

707
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: my own. I'm at a point in my life where

708
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: i just want to live life to the fullest. I'm

709
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Speaker 1: a seditary, so I feel like it's my calling to

710
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: go see the world. However, that's your favorite word, you

711
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: love saying that it must be a sagittarious thing. However,

712
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I get stuck because I often think

713
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: about what others say. To a certain extent, I feel

714
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: strongly when it comes to my emotions, so I I

715
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: feel hard when I feel guilt. I do what I

716
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: want because I am young and I don't want to

717
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: take for granted my young years. But I do worry

718
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: about what others think, like family members. I always feel

719
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: guilty when I do what is not expected of me.

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Speaker 1: What advice do you guys have for a young black

721
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: man in his twenties wanting to live life unapologetically nice? Alright? Brother? Well,

722
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Speaker 1: first of all, being as super smart sagittarius as I

723
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: can see, um, you seem to be very aware and

724
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: touch you know of your emotions and the way you feel,

725
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: the fact that you've been to therapy, you've already been

726
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: to work through family patterns and all that stuff. I

727
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: think that's a great thing. So you're already ahead of

728
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: the curve, because some people are still trying to figure

729
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: that out well off into their their years. Um, I

730
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Speaker 1: will tell you. For me, I had a very similar

731
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: situation where I got very concerned about what people think

732
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: and people being the collective, just people in general, but

733
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: also yes, family friends, all that good stuff. I will

734
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Speaker 1: say de Voo being the total opposite of not if

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00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: it's about what people think, you saved my life, bro,

736
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: because there was for a long time I was just

737
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: very like, you know, kind of tiptoeing around things that

738
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to do with things that really ultimately made

739
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Speaker 1: me happy. And I really had to assess, like who

740
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: was at fault here, who was going to suffer the

741
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: most if I was not true to myself? And ultimately,

742
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: you do one thing, somebody has an opinion. You do

743
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: the other thing, somebody has an opinion good or bad.

744
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: So if you really live your life riding that roller coaster,

745
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of like what Shawn said in his portion of

746
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: the interview if he was to just like you know,

747
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: relish on the highs and then really beat on himself

748
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: on the loads. Everybody's gonna have an opinion about whatever

749
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: you do, so you might as well do what you

750
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: want to do anyway. Sounding like I know, I know, squeeze,

751
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I've really adopted that philosophy in life.

752
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: Who cares. If we had listened to family members, we

753
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: would not have the platform that we have right now.

754
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: If we listen to people saying, y'all doing too much.

755
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: Y'all doing all this stuff on the internet. What y'all

756
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: doing You're doing it for likes, you're doing it for this,

757
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: and here we are because we didn't listen to it.

758
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: We didn't bro do your thing. If I can go

759
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: back into my twenties, okay, twenty year old, two year

760
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: old ding and be like, sis, here's the team on

761
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: doing what people expect you to do, or like worrying

762
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: about what people have to say, let me tell tell

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00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: you living my whole best life. This is the analogy

764
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I give some of my kids who have the same conversation.

765
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: They're like, man, you know, I don't know what to

766
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: do with people saying that I'm just do this. People

767
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: saying I say this, nobody knows anything. Okay, listen to me.

768
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: They don't know nothing. We all wake up every day

769
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: and we fucking guess. We're guessing. There was a point

770
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: in the world where everybody knew the Earth was flat.

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00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: Think about that. Think about there was a point where

772
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: everybody on Earth knew the Earth was flat. And then

773
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: what happened? We find out the Earth is round. But

774
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: at some point everybody was telling people, don't don't go there,

775
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: don't don't go sail out in the ocean, because you're

776
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna fall off the edge of the earth. So you

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00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: know what happened. People wasn't sailing because everybody was telling

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00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: them what to do. And it wasn't until you pull

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00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: up your own sail and you use the wind to

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00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: gus you analogy through anhalogy, brother, find out that the

781
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: world is around on your own. That's what I'm gonna

782
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: just bring it to that. Put yourself up. If you

783
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: listen to everybody, you're gonna walk around thinking Earth is flat,

784
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say, and be severely unhappy and

785
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: put your sales up. Put yourself up, be the wind

786
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: beneath your own wings or your own sale or but

787
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: the wind beneath you say are the wings? There's a song,

788
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: So I got that. But I was just trying to

789
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: like what you're supposed to be on my You're supposed

790
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: to be the wind beneath my wings. I was sailing

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00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: on my analogy. I was sailing on my analogy. I'm blow.

792
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow under your wings. I love that. See

793
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You see how I go through. I

794
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you, but honestly, honestly, bro, there's no wrong decisions

795
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: in life. You make your decisions and you deal with

796
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: the consequences that you create, and you deal with it.

797
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: And if your family is your family and your friends

798
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: or your friends and they love you for who you are,

799
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna support you either way. And if they don't,

800
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: now you know where you stands period, period, period with you.

801
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: All Right, onto the next one. That was pretty easy.

802
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: Do you want to read for it? Okay? My family

803
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: is from Guyana and moved to New York where my

804
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: mom was a team. She hasn't been a guy. You

805
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: love guying these people, these people too, shout out wayn

806
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: year with shout out my auntie Angie raised me. She's

807
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: guying you finish your homework. She hasn't been a fan

808
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: of any boyfriend I've had on and usually doesn't mind

809
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: her opinion, doesn't give her opinion soil after things have ended. Okay,

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00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm with my boyfriend about a year and I love

811
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: him very much. My mother will smile and keep KEI

812
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: in front of my boyfriend whenever he's around, but if

813
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: he's around for too long, she can be rude and

814
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: snappy behind his back. We recently had a conversation and

815
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: she basically said that she feels he's not good enough

816
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: for me. He works, so you're not good enough for me. No,

817
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: y'all you not good enough for you? Ye? He works

818
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: in mechanics. You know he works in mechanics and has

819
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: stated in the past that he doesn't plan on going

820
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: back to college. Basically, my is did they give you

821
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: a hard time with who you chose to love a girl?

822
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: Why are you going to start? Do you think that

823
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: it has to do with the culture and how parents

824
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: view their girl child. Do you want to do this

825
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: or you want me to take this? I know, devil,

826
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: I know, I understand. Okay, listen, yes, MEMI hated me. Me,

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00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Me hated me, all right. She thought I was a thug,

828
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: a hooligan, a dumb athlete. I thought I was gonna

829
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: just take a door away and destroy her life. Yeah,

830
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: pretty mad. Look now, look that's what happens when you

831
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: do things and don't care what people have to say.

832
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: I literally was like, this is my boyfriend though, and

833
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: I love him, but I don't really care what you'll

834
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: have to say. So here we are. But I do

835
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: understand the perspective of Okay. For example, me growing up

836
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: in my household to very strict West Indian parents who

837
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: did not really want their girl child out in these streets,

838
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: and it was go to school, come home, go to school,

839
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: come home. Like that's just that's just what it was.

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00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: Um so yes, my mon, did No, I didn't. I

841
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: was taking detours sometimes, you know what I mean, I

842
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: was taking I would say, that's awful det I was

843
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: not like that. I wasn't on tour like that. You

844
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I'm just saying, in order

845
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: to just get a little bit of freedom, you just

846
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: start to like, you know, deviate from like the coming

847
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: straight home goodbye to be Sody started his miike off.

848
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: That being said, when time came for me to start

849
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: bringing boys around, okay, and this was until you didn't

850
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: start coming around til we were what eighteen years all.

851
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: At the time, my mother literally said to me, conty,

852
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: you could have walked through the door with Jesus Christ

853
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: himself and I would not care. I wouldn't care. I

854
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: absolutely wouldn't because you're my daughter, and I feel like

855
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: I know what's best for you. And at that time,

856
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: I just wanted you to focus on yourself and schooling

857
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: in career. Jesus Christ, yeah, pretty much, and Jesus not

858
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Speaker 1: good enough for you. No, Well, I don't know. We

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Speaker 1: might be in the rapture right now and not even

860
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Speaker 1: know it, so who knows, um. But no, in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: we I did have a hard time in the beginning,

862
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Speaker 1: just because I think it was my parents idea of

863
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: wrapping their mind around the fact that there was a

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00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: young man who was now going to, you know, share

865
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: my attention, that I would have been taken my eyes

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Speaker 1: off of the prize, and at that time, the prize

867
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: was getting my education, starting a career, building things for myself,

868
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: being an individual, being independent, which were valid points at

869
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: the time, they were valid and they're still valid now

870
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Speaker 1: and it's almost like we look back now. Of course,

871
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Speaker 1: hindsight is deval and I both say that mom did

872
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Speaker 1: have some points she didn't and wanting me to focus.

873
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: She did definitely didn't give you a fair shot in

874
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Speaker 1: the very hold on, hold on, hold on. She did

875
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Speaker 1: have some points, right, But you can have points, and

876
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: then it's being rude. You can't be rude to other

877
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: people kids, because you know what could have happened you

878
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Speaker 1: you You wasn't taking detours then, but you want to

879
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: detour now, right, And I could have deed towards you

880
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: away from your family, because that happens a lot in families.

881
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: Some people are so hard on the significant other, right

882
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: that once the significant other finally grabs the heart of

883
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: that person, they separate them from their family because it's

884
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: like you treated me so bad before. That is very true,

885
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: and you you're going to choose once you choose the

886
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: significantly extended family myself, yeah, me and me too, my

887
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: extended family too. You see the family, you know, the

888
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Speaker 1: families tight That person falls in love with someone who

889
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: everyone else in the family didn't approve of, and now

890
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: they go off and live their life and create their

891
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: own family because that's what people do. There's gonna be

892
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: certain things in your life that I'm going to be

893
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: able to provide that your family and your mom can't, right,

894
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not I wasn't gonna talk about the detours,

895
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But with that being said, there

896
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: has to be a way for you to speak to

897
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: your mom about being rude. There was a point in

898
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Speaker 1: our our core relationship, well, I didn't come to your

899
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Speaker 1: house for about two years, right, and then it becomes

900
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: all it becomes awkward for me because we were in

901
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: college at the time. We would come home on the

902
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: weekends and there was like a well, I want to

903
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: chill with my family, but I want to chill with

904
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: but he was like, I'm not coming to your house.

905
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: So then I feel divided because it's like I want

906
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: to chill with my boyfriend the weekend and kick back

907
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: and you know, have a good time with our families,

908
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: but then I can't because he doesn't feel comfortable in

909
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: my house. So we did have a period of about

910
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: what two years maybe that this was going on, until

911
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: there was finally like, you know, my mom extended the

912
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: olive branch. I think when she saw he wasn't going nowhere.

913
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: When I made to the NFL, it was around that time.

914
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh see, mom, that was a bad time. Yeah, that

915
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: was a bad time. I could could have school drop

916
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: had been gone. And the thing is, it's not even

917
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Speaker 1: like a man woman thincause people said, you know, is

918
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: it a girl? Just that how people treat their girl child?

919
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no. I hear so many horror stories

920
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: about young women who are treated by the young man's family,

921
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why would you treat somebody's daughter like that?

922
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: Would you want somebody to treat your daughter like that?

923
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: I have three boys. I have three boys, right, and

924
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to be very particular about who my young

925
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: men choose. I want them to have a standard that

926
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Speaker 1: they can live up to and be proud of and

927
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: live and have a person that's going to make them

928
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: a better person. But in no way do I plan

929
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Speaker 1: on disrespecting anyone's daughter, because when I have my daughter,

930
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to nobody disrespecting my daughter. You know

931
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Daughter situation that we in season four,

932
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Speaker 1: you still talking about, y'all. Congratulations to mommy and Daddy

933
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: we got a baby out of Pampers. We've retired the pampers.

934
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Speaker 1: Pampers when retired the detour, only the detour still working.

935
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Speaker 1: The's still a chance for me. It's still shot. They

936
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Speaker 1: tell you there is no and in sight for anything

937
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: being normally getting. It's always detours in this life, always

938
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Speaker 1: detours in this life with devo. Oh my god. It

939
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: always comes back to the respect other people's kids, facts,

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Speaker 1: and if they love your child the right way be,

941
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Speaker 1: even if you don't, even if you don't understand everything

942
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: they do. Because even your your father doesn't understand everything

943
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: I do. Your father don't know how I make money right,

944
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: And one thing I see about your father, though he

945
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: was always respectful and I always welcome in his presence,

946
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: That is true. Yes, yes, yes, for sure. You told

947
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: the story all the time when you went to ask

948
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: my father and mother for my hand in marriage, and

949
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: my father was just like sure, fine, by you guys,

950
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: do what you guys do. Your mother was like, Mary,

951
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: just give your daughter away like that. You have not questions.

952
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: You can totally see it. I wasn't there for it,

953
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: but I could see you sitting at the table with

954
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: my mother and my father and my father being his

955
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: usual just laid back, chill, like, hey, you want to drink,

956
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: let's chill. You gonna marry my daughter? All good? Take her?

957
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: Take her. That's one last person for me to have

958
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: to support. What is and my mom just being like,

959
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: you're just gonna give away our first board like that,

960
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: how dare you? The funny thing is your father you

961
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: have questions? You always have questions? What questions you have?

962
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Asked the question? Then he said and got him walked away,

963
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: and it was me and your mother sitting there, and

964
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like, and then you had to get drilled,

965
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: So do you have any questions? And she didn't have

966
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: no question, has no questions, So I'm gonna do this.

967
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: You are be cool. So I gave her a pound

968
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: like I was like, all right, did that? I was

969
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: like that, I'm out most awkward conversation. I love it.

970
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: But then at the actual proposal, everyone was in tears

971
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: and happy and excited and all that good stuff. So

972
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: good luck to you sis. Go ahead and have that talker, mom.

973
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: We gotta sometimes have those talks with our very stern

974
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,319
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975
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