1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has spent all over the field. 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: in the stratgere of normalcy. All right, there we go, 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: fired up. It's training Camp Week one. Bill's Live, Chris Brown, 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you here on a Monday, joining you 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: a little bit late after the Instigators got on the 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: horn with Sabers number one pick Owen Power. So we 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: will donate a few minutes of our time to them 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: so they could bring owen power to you. So hopefully 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: you enjoyed that right before we got on the air. 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: And uh man, there is a lot of stuff going on, 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: and it's crazy like training camp is fast approaching, and 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's like news galore here, there 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: and everywhere. The Aaron Rodgers saga continues. In Green Bay. 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: There's Deshaun Watson news as he reports the training camp. 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: It makes it clear he has no interest in putting 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: a Texans helmet on ever again, and that the Texans 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: are listening two offers and it looks like it's gonna 20 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: be pretty steep if you want. Deshaun Watson on your 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: football team, and this despite the fact that his off 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: the field issues have yet to be cleared up, not 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: to mention the fact that nobody knows for sure what 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: repercussions there might be in terms of penalties from the league, 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, not even on the commission, which is amazing 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: because as sordid and distasteful as all these charges are 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: and egregious, that they haven't put him on it some 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of commissioner's examples whatever list there is, they haven't 29 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: put him on any of that, and you know, makes 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: people speculate that they have gotten end that at least 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: some of the charges aren't believable, but the ones I've 32 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: heard are so their civil litigation, it's a mess. It's 33 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: an absolute mess. And admire Yeah, it makes you want to, 34 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: It makes you want to, you know, wash your hands 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: when you hear about the stories. But it's awful. And 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: but that is that's telling that the league, obviously or 37 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: not obviously is purported or two or at least speculated 38 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: that there's a reason he's not on an exempt list 39 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: for the stuff that he's been accused of doing. Yeah, 40 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know what it would be, but man, oh, man. 41 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: I I have a tendency to believe the victims in 42 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: these things, particularly when there's twenty two. Right. But whatever 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: they're up for, they're trading him now, which is that's 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: probably going to come to pass and the course, and 45 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: like we've seen here in Buffalo with the with the 46 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: hockey team, the asking price is exorbited. Yeah, Chris Mortenson 47 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: is reporting four to Shaun Watson. The Texans price has 48 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: been some combination of five high draft picks and starting 49 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: caliber players. That's according to two league executives that Chris 50 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: Mortenson spoke with. Field Yates chimed in after that tweet 51 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: by mort and said, a huge price for any team 52 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: to trade, but no two teams are better equipped to 53 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: do so than the Eagles or the Dolphins. Yeah, really 54 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: don't want him to go to the Dolphins. Really don't 55 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: want that. And I'm kind of banking on the time 56 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: element here because you're going to camp, you're getting ready 57 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: for the season, not that that would necessarily be a 58 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: roadblock by any means for a team that really wants 59 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson. I mean, it's a top five quarterback 60 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: in the league. So if you're committed to paying the 61 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: price you're comfortable with how the off the field stuff's gonna, 62 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, work out, and that's a big if. Ye, 63 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: then yeah, it could absolutely happen, But heck this, there's 64 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: no reason it wouldn't happen in mid October, in Week seven, right, 65 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: and then one of those teams maybe has him for 66 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. So it's a big 67 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: price tag to pay. I mean five draft picks. High 68 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: draft picks are you're assuming Day one or Day two 69 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: picks for high it's first three round, five picks in 70 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: the first three rounds over a series of years presumably, 71 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: and then starting caliber players plural. Yeah. And also the 72 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: fact that this happens after Deshaun Watson has reported a 73 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: camp I remember he said in the obviously he hated 74 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, he was lied to by what they did, 75 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: you know with JJ Watton all these guys, and he 76 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: was never gonna suit up again for that franchise. Then 77 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: all the off this field stuff hit and the club 78 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: was saying, we're never gonna trade him. And then secretly 79 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: we've heard now that they have been open to the 80 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: fact that they would trade him, but obviously for a 81 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: steep price. Deshaun Watson then reports to camp and by 82 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: all reports has it's awkward. He does not want to 83 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: be there, and he's let it be known that he 84 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: does want to go there, and he has made it 85 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: clear that his the way he feels about the club 86 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: has not changed. So now their neck deep in mud, 87 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: to put it nicely, and they're trying to find their 88 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: way out of it. And it's yeah, it's a mess um. 89 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: And they're not the only team dealing with this um. 90 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers had a shareholders meeting today in 91 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay, which meet and as some of you may 92 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: not know, the Packers are owned by people like stockholder. 93 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: It's a community owned entity, so they have to report 94 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: to those stockholders every year. Today was the day eleven 95 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: am the you know, the Mark Murphy and Gutkunst and 96 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: all those guys came up and had to stand on 97 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: a stage in front of all these thousands and thousands 98 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: of shareholders and you know, given the state of thing. 99 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: They also publicized their numbers their financial report, which was 100 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: the first time ever they had an operating deficit. This 101 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: last year's you might imagine because of the pandemic, but 102 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: they ended up, I guess making money because of the 103 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: investments that they had. Yeah, so the club is not 104 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: destituted by any stretch of the imagination. No surprise there. 105 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: And they've got Aaron Rodgers, who it has been reported 106 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: over the last week that he is contemplating retiring for 107 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: at least a year so he can get his rights 108 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: off the Packers books and then come back and play 109 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: for another team. Really, what should happen here? And even 110 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: NFL Networks seeing rap report has floated this around. He's 111 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: certainly not the only person with this idea, because it 112 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: came to mind. We actually talked about it a little 113 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: bit last week. He's under contract for two more years 114 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: after this season to the Packers. What the Packers? So 115 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: the Packers tried to sign Hip to a two year extension, thinking, oh, well, 116 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: he wants his future secure. He does want his future secure, 117 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: just not in Green Bay. He doesn't want to be 118 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. So that's the bottom line. If the 119 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Packers are smart, what they will do at least to 120 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: get him to play this year. If they're smart, what 121 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: they should do is tear up the last two years 122 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: of his deal, say hey, come play this year. You know, 123 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: one more run with Davante Adams in the group, and 124 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: then you know you're you're off and running or whatever 125 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: where you want. The problem with that is the Packers 126 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: obviously are going to want something in return. They don't 127 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: just want a franchise quarterback to walk out the door 128 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: and they have nothing. Right what we saw that in 129 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: New England? Right? How did that go? Not too well? Well? 130 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how you navigate all of that so 131 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: you can get what you want and trade an asset. 132 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of assurances you can give 133 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to convince him that you will in fact 134 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: trade him in the off season to play for another team. 135 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: And then even then, I don't know if Rogers is 136 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: satisfied with that, because now you're at the mercy of 137 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: them finding a trade partner and it might not be 138 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: the partner you want it. Right, Well, here's the thing, 139 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: and Aaron, this isn't this is what Aaron Rodgers I 140 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: would say if I was Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, you're gonna 141 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: do that. Tear up the last two years of the 142 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: deal and let me have free agency, or or keep 143 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: the two years of the deal and trade me to 144 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: somebody else and let me do a new deal with them, 145 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: and the Packers said, you know, we need something in 146 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: return for you. You know, you're a franchise quarterback MVP. 147 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: And my rebuttal to that, if I'm Aaron Rodgers, is 148 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: you drafted my replacement two years ago. Shut up? Yeah, 149 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: if you want me to play for you, don't draft 150 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: the guy to replace me. And he just like you 151 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: did with me and Bret Farbo. It's never for four 152 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: years he sat on the bench or at least advised 153 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: me that this is what you're doing. Because Aaron Rodgers 154 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: found out that the Packers were drafting a quarterback from 155 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: his from his marketing rep. His marketing rep texted him 156 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: because he had he knew somebody that was I don't know, 157 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: in the draft room or whatever, and he says, quarterback coming. 158 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: That's how he found out that he saw they were 159 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: trading up. So he perked up a little bit. And 160 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: then right after that his marketing rep texts him quarterback here. 161 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: That's how he found out. So okay, and then you know, 162 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: taking it a step further, it's pretty apparent after they 163 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: offered him a two year extension, he turns it down 164 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: for giant money. It's about his freedom to choose where 165 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: he plays next that is most important to him. And 166 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: if he can't get some kind of assurances from the 167 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: Packers that this is the last year he'll be on 168 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: the roster in Green Bay, then yeah, I think retirement 169 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: is a real possibility because it's the only card he's 170 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: got left to play to get to get out of 171 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: the contract and then sit out a year to play 172 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: the following year, at which point he'll be what thirty 173 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: nine I want to say, because he turns thirty eight 174 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: this year, I believe, so he'll be thirty nine before 175 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: he takes the field again. I know he said he 176 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: wants to play into his forties, but here's the thing. 177 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: He's going to be able to and he'll be able 178 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: to get another three or four years at least, even 179 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: because of the way he played last year and the 180 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: lack of deterioration there is in his skills and the 181 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: way that the game has changed in his favor by 182 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: protecting guys in his position physically. So he'll probably, i'd 183 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: say in finger quotes, probably be able to avoid a 184 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: catastrophic injury going forward. But he is. It comes down 185 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: to this, and we found that out when we found 186 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: out that the Packers offered to make him the highest 187 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: paid guy in the league. It ain't about the money 188 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, he wants to play someplace else. He 189 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: wants to know what it's like, like Tom Brady did, 190 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Like Peyton Manning did, same thing. It's the exact same 191 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: desire in his heart. I want to see I can 192 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: do it, And both of them did. Both of them did. 193 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Both Peyton Manning and Tom Brady left long time Hall 194 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: of Fame careers behind to start a new chapter in 195 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: their career and both of World one World Championships as 196 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: a result. Aaron Rodgers gotta be sitting there going I 197 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: can do that. Yep, I'm going to do that too. 198 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: On the vaccination front, there are new vaccination updates from 199 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. Eighty three point six percent of players have 200 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: been vaccinated overall, which means they have at least received 201 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: one of the two shots. Ten clubs now have ninety 202 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: percent or more of their players vaccinated, which is certainly 203 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: good news. We heard late last week that sixteen teams 204 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: have reached an eighty five percent vaccination threshold. However, eighty 205 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: five percent has been this number that has been thrown 206 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: around an awful lot as the necessary threshold to get 207 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: to business as usual. That has not been ratified by 208 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: both the league and the players Association, so nobody really 209 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: knows what the number definitively is. As training camps are 210 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: about to widely start now. JC Treder, the NFLPA president, 211 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: issued a tweet that provided a link to the NFL 212 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Players Association website where he put together a write up 213 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: that says, clearing up the facts on our COVID protocols. 214 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: First thing he lays out there is that the protocols 215 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: that were implemented last year are nearly identical to that 216 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: of this year. There are only some relaxed guidelines for 217 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: players who are vaccinated. He points out that the vaccinations 218 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: are not mandatory for NFL players. He reiterates the fact 219 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: that yes, while it's possible games could be postponed, it's 220 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: no different than the circumstances they faced last year, and 221 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: they got through an entire season before a vaccine was 222 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: even available. The interesting one was this, He poses the question, 223 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,359 Speaker 1: what will happen when a team reaches eighty five percent vaccinated? 224 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: Will the protocols be lifted for all players? No, this 225 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: was never the case and is currently not even being discussed. 226 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know where it's going to go. No 227 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: matter what your vaccination rate is. Obviously, if it's one 228 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent, I would suppose you would be free to 229 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: just do it the way he always did, because everybody's vaccinated. 230 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: Then he threw this one out. What about the wrist 231 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: bands that the NFL wants unvaccinated players to wear. I mean, 232 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: this is almost like a scarlet letter. There was talk 233 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: about having unvaccinated players wearing a wristband to identify them 234 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: as unvaccinated. To me, that's even more than mandating they 235 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: get vaccinated. That's interesting. The next question was why are 236 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: unvaccinated players being threatened with new rules, restrictions and punishments, 237 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: and he points out they are not new rules. These 238 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: are all rules that the union and the league had 239 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: agreed to. So it's an interesting read if you have 240 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: a chance. I think the most important thing and the 241 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: most encouraging thing is Tredder, who is the president of 242 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: the players Association, points out, we are still in a 243 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: pandemic and we do need to work together to make 244 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: it through another complete season. Given the rise in cases 245 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: nationwide and the emerging data on how the vaccines holds 246 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: up to the virus's variants, we should expect the unexpected. 247 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: So it was an interesting take. I know he's trying 248 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: to defend, you know, the players, which is his job, 249 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: but I thought he was at least somewhat open minded 250 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: to the fact that they do have to work hand 251 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: in hand with the league to get another another season 252 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: successfully completed. Right, there is a lot of there's a 253 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: lot of this going around about you know, how it's 254 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna change. And I think what happened was and j 255 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: C mentioned it in his and his rather lengthy explanation 256 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: of what was going on. The league put that memo out. 257 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: We talked about when they put that out like a 258 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: shot across It was a shot across the bout, but 259 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: it made it sound like everything had changed, when in reality, 260 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: not much had changed. And that's what bothered him. That's 261 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: what bothered him and it and it He's right, I mean, 262 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: because we it sounded egregious that what the league was doing. 263 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: People were outraged, like, hey, they've gone over that and 264 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: it was all already agreed to. And not only that, Steve, 265 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: it did prompt some players across the league to go 266 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: get the vaccine. One of them was Emmanuel Sanders, of 267 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: the bills. He put it out on his Instagram post 268 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: and there it is his vaccination record card July twenty third, 269 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: the day after the memo came out, and he basically 270 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: said on his Instagram post account ability availability, don't have 271 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: time to deal with nobs during the season hashtag chasing greatness. 272 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: So you can say what you want about what the 273 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: league did, but it's certainly convinced some people, you know, 274 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: what the hell with this, I'm just gonna get the 275 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: vaccine so I don't have to deal with all these 276 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: fiery hoops that they're gonna make us jump through if 277 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: we're not vaccinated, which you know, it's clear the league 278 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: was clearly pushing buttons to try to incentivize more players 279 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, and Emmanuel Sanders is proof that it 280 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: did have an effect of some kind to prompt some 281 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: players to get vaccinated. Now, you're always going to have 282 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: the players that are staunchly against it and probably won't 283 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: before they were report to training camp, but Emmanuel Sanders 284 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: is one of the people that's included now in those 285 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: recent vaccine numbers. Ten teams now have ninety percent or 286 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: more players with at least one shot eighty three point 287 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: six percent of players league wide have at least one shot. 288 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders is now in that number. So it we 289 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: only have one tiny example in the effect that this 290 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: league memo had. But it had an effect, I think 291 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: we can safely say that. To what degree, we don't know, 292 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: but it did prompt some guys to go ahead to 293 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: their local pharmacy and get a shot, right. I mean, 294 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: that's it's that simple. And well, wait, it looks as though, 295 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: no matter how things play out, that not very many, 296 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: if any teams will be fully vaccine one hundred percent vaccinated. 297 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: There's always going to be a percentage of guys who 298 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: are not vaccinated, and those guys are going to, however 299 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: many there are are going is going to dictate how 300 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: the team has to what you know, how high a 301 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: hoop the heat team has to jump through to accommodate 302 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: social distancing and all of those things that go into that. 303 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: This just in as well, this came across Frank Reich, 304 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: a friend of mine, of er teammate, former Buffalo Bill's quarterback, 305 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated. He's the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. 306 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: And if you don't know who I'm talking about, you're 307 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: not listening to the show. So asymptomatic. He's asymptomatic and 308 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID and is under quarantine. It's a 309 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: breakthrough infection. He's fully vaccinated and he didn't know he 310 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: had it until he got tested and found out that 311 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: he did. Right. That's the kind of thing that that 312 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: plays on both sides of the argument of whether get 313 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: vaccs right. You can still get the disease, like five 314 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: percent of the people who get the vaccine because it's 315 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: ninety five percent effective, So ninety five percent of the 316 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: people who get it are fine, but the other five 317 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: there's five percent, five out of every hundred people who 318 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: get are gonna get it again if they're exposed. They 319 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: won't suffer symptoms, they won't risk dying or being hospitalized, 320 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: but they will have the infection. And that is a 321 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: whole nother layer to this because just this month, thirteen 322 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: and NFL staffers, one of which is Frank Reich, and 323 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: four players, including one of each this weekend, has tested 324 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: positive for COVID despite being vaccinated. The NFL and the 325 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: Players Association have been in discussions to increase testing four 326 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: vaccinated staff and players as an extra layer of precaution 327 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: because what is unclear where there is not enough data 328 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: or science yet is when there is a breakthrough infection, 329 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: like you describe, a vaccinated person still gets infected with COVID, 330 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: how much how contagious are they? Are they more contagious 331 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: or less contagious than an unvaccinated person. That is, there's 332 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: still not enough data on that. They're saying that because 333 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: they're asymptomatic. And you can say this too, We knew 334 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: this even during the heat of the pandemic. Some people 335 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: got it and just didn't show very bad symptoms, but 336 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: they were spreading it to other people. Yes, but the 337 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: viral load for asymptomatic p POLL is less than lower 338 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: than it is for the people who are, you know, 339 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: obviously showing symptoms. That's why for people who are asymptomatic, 340 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: whether they've been vaccinated or not, that's why they don't 341 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: seem to spread it at the higher at a higher 342 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: rate than people with the symptoms, which it makes a 343 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: lot of sense to me, but but that's so. And 344 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: that's also why I guess because of the data that 345 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: if you're vaccinated and you're asymptomatic or whatever, you can 346 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: come back very a lot quicker if you get two 347 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: negative tests in a twenty four hour period. Now, Frank 348 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: Reich is probably gonna get tested like every twelve hours, 349 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: so that you know, if he gets two in a 350 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: row that are negative, he can come back into the 351 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: to the regular population of the team and be fine. 352 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: That's how that's how long his quarantine will last, and 353 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: presumably could be as little as twenty four or forty 354 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: eight thirty six hours from when he got tested positive. Positive. Uh. 355 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: He did release his statement. He said, I'm excited for 356 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: training camp, However, I'm disappointed I won't be there with 357 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: the team as we start. I'm fortunate to be fully 358 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: vaccinated and I'm asymptomatic. I'm feeling well and I'm looking 359 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: forward to returning as soon as I'm medically cleared. So 360 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: fortunately for him, he was vaccinated, so he's probably not 361 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna you know, he he's symptomatic, he had no symptoms, 362 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: but he does still have to quarantine until he can test. 363 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm negative on two successive tests. It's amazing now because 364 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: it's now you know, the Rubber Meets the Road training 365 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: camps the beginning this week, and we got there's players 366 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: running around the building they're they're all showing up this week. 367 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: Guys are getting into town, and it's gonna be really 368 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: nice when they actually hit the field and can start 369 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: playing football. Because you know, both you and I we 370 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: talked about this all the time, but we hate talking 371 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: about this, the vaccination thing and the pandemic. And last 372 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: year at this time, we've come a long way, There's 373 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Last year proved so much and 374 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: the way the league got it underway, got all two 375 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six games in, and we didn't know 376 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: even right now, we didn't know if they were even 377 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna play at all. Remember, Oh yeah, we didn't even 378 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: know if they were going to kick it off on 379 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: September or thirteenth or whatever it was. Last year, we 380 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: didn't know if they were gonna be able to do it. 381 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: And not only did they, they did it with pretty 382 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: much with flying colors. Many they got all these games in. 383 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: It was pretty amazing. And now this year a totally 384 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: different atmosphere. It's it's more games, and you know what 385 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: it's about. It's more about competitive advantage now this year 386 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: than it was last year. It's depending on who's vaccinated, 387 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: it is, right, and who's not. It's gonna be weird. 388 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: But I don't think any team's gonna be one hundred 389 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: percent vaccinated, right, I mean there might, yeah, but that 390 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: means they're like that means ninety and above. I mean 391 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: some teams could be right there. They might be right 392 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: there maybe. I mean the Chiefs I know were almost 393 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated back in June, right, so they could be 394 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: all the way there by, right, And that's that makes 395 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: a difference. So it's now we're talking about competitive advantage, 396 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: and that's that's different than what we were talking about 397 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: a year ago. Still, we seem, because of our conversation 398 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: just in the last fifteen twenty minutes, it seems we're 399 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: light years away from being normal, well, normal off season, 400 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: normal training camp where we can go out and we 401 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: do our show from Rochester. Well that's not hap Oh 402 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: my gosh, we're light years away. Yeah. Before we take 403 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: a break, we do want to set the table for 404 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: you because we don't want to talk vaccination rates and 405 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: stuff for our whole show. We do want to talk 406 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: more football related things and so on the Twitter poll today, 407 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: we are asking you what will benefit the Bills the 408 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: most going into the twenty twenty one season because the 409 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty offseason was very different. It was like nothing 410 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: anything anyone had ever seen before, and this offseason has 411 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: been a little more closer to the normal preparations that 412 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: teams go through. So we ask you what will benefit 413 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: the Bills the most going into the twenty twenty one season. 414 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: Is it a full offseason program and training camp, new 415 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: personnel on the roster, preseason games being played, or something else? 416 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: What will benefit the Bills the most going into twenty 417 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: twenty one season. You can let us know at eighth 418 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: three fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty, 419 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: or you can hit us up on the tweet sheet 420 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: at one Bills Live out in front as a full 421 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: off season program and training camp. But if you think 422 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: it's something else, definitely weigh in or let us know, 423 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: give us a call here Steve and I step aside. 424 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: There are some more news and notes to get to, 425 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: including a certain pass rusher in the NFC West who 426 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: is not exactly happy with his contract and has reportedly 427 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: requested a trade. We'll let you know who that is 428 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: when we return here on one Bills Live, presented by 429 00:24:53,760 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: a Collada Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to 430 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here in training 431 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: camp week as the players will report tomorrow. Veteran players 432 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: will report tomorrow. The rookies have been here for just 433 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: about a week already, and the players hit the field 434 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and Stevill, Steve and I'll have a covered 435 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: wall to wall here on one Bills Live for you, 436 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: so be sure to keep it here all week long 437 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: as we let you know who's looking good, who's got 438 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: their game locked up tight as a drum, Who's you know, 439 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: performing admirably and putting themselves in good position to win 440 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: a job. You know, we'll cover all of that for 441 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: you here on one Bills Live. There is some other 442 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: NFL news and notes we wanted to pass along before 443 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: we dive head first into our twitter pool today. One 444 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: of them comes out of Cincinnati, which Mike Brown, owner 445 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: of the Bengals, has basically said, Joe Burrow, who is 446 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: coming off of ACL knee surgery. It was like mid 447 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: till two thirds of the way through the season last 448 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: year ACL injury. He will not play in any preseason games. 449 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: They want the risk to be zero for Joe Burrow, 450 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: so he will not be playing in any preseason games 451 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: this summer in advance of the regular season. So the 452 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: Bengals have decided we are going to reduce the risk 453 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: to zero and not have the unfortunate happened somebody falls 454 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: on his leg and he reinjures the knee something like that. 455 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: They want to get to the regular season with Joe 456 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: Burrow as their starting quarterbacks. So he is not going 457 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: to play in any of the three preseason games for 458 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals. What do you think of that, especially after 459 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: not playing for a year. Yeah, I get it. I 460 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: don't think he needs it. I mean, I see it's 461 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: too short after the injury. I think. I mean, just 462 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: given that extra month of not going live, not risking it, certainly, 463 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: and from my experience and the you know, the surgeries 464 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: I've had and the and that all my friends who 465 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: have had acls. The simple fact that matters this, when 466 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: you come back from an ACL, you know, stereotypically everybody's different, 467 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: but are stereotypically speaking, most guys say, the knees fine structurally, 468 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: but it's different. Yeah, so it feels different, but it's 469 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, you're not any more likely to injure it. 470 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: Except because of the strength and the fact of your 471 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: body feels a little bit different on that leg h 472 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: and it takes time for your body to understand that 473 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: that's the new normal before you live your life never 474 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: thinking about it, and during that time, that transition is 475 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: what takes those last month or two of rehabbed where 476 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: you get that full calendar year and even beyond that 477 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: to say, wow, you know what, I can actually play 478 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: and I can actually play better than I did before 479 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: if I work hard enough. And that's so giving him 480 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: that month off in the preseason, no preseason games, that's 481 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: just a nod towards he's probably not feeling normal yet, 482 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: even though physically there's not much wrong with him. The 483 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, as Steve mentioned at the top of 484 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: the show, we're addressing their shareholders at the stadium today 485 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: GM Brian Gutencoused According to Rob Demofsky We've had on 486 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the show longtime Packers beat reporter and now working for 487 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: ESPN dot Com. Gutencous quoted as saying, we have been 488 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: working tirelessly with Aaron Rodgers and his representatives to resolve 489 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: the issues that Rogers is raised, and we are hopeful 490 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: for a positive resolution, but he did not really answer 491 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: directly any of the questions about whether Rogers will be 492 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: reporting to camp tomorrow or whether any of the differences 493 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: have been resolved. So he says they're working on it, 494 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: but there is no indication and he probably Chris has 495 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: been made in that regard. So that's where that kind 496 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: of stands. They did say, however, as well, and I 497 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: didn't know this, that Gudekunst and Mark Murphy and the 498 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: head coach whose name escapes me right this minute, Lafleur 499 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: all traveled out to California or wherever it was and 500 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: sit sat down with Aaron Rodgers. They all communicated with 501 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: him in person, went out and visited him, and you know, 502 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: and how to give and take conversation, and so there's 503 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: it's not like Aaron has shut the door and just 504 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: like walked off and you know, took his football and 505 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: went home. He's mad seemingly made it clear to them 506 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: what his intentions are and what he wants, and it 507 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: doesn't his future does not include the Green Bay Packers. 508 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: How it comes that, you made a good point, Brownie. 509 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: Today we're talking help. Aaron Rodgers will probably show up 510 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: at the last minute play the season for the entire 511 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: season and make it known that this is it for him. 512 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: There's not going to be another Yeah, maybe I'm out 513 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: of here, and Aaron Rodgers wants to do it as 514 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: soon as he can so he has more football with 515 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: another team left. He'd love to go someplace now, no doubt. 516 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: But who can really make a deal like that happened 517 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: at this point, late day, late date and make it 518 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: worth it for the Packers. Well, anytime a top flight 519 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks involved, there's always going to be interest, no matter 520 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: what the date on the calendar says. The question is 521 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: who would be willing to part with major capital and 522 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: many of the national reporters are reporting that the Eagles 523 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: would be one of the number one teams interested in 524 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. The Dolphins have also been floated out there 525 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: as a primary contender for those for the services of Watson, 526 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: and then I still don't think you can count out Denver. 527 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: But are they more interested in Rogers or are they 528 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: more interested in Watson. They would probably take either one happily, 529 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: provided the price was right for them, But it's all 530 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: speculation right now. There's no deficitive clarity on when or 531 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: if a deal will come to pass for either of 532 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: those two quarterbacks. Then out in Arizona, there is this 533 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: all pro pass rusher. Chandler Jones requested a trade from 534 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals at some point this offseason. We don't 535 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: know exactly when, but ESPN's Jeremy Fowler was reporting this. 536 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: He said Jones has been unhappy with his contract and 537 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: his future with the team. The Cardinals don't want to 538 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: trade him. They do expect him to report to training camp, 539 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: but it is a situation to watch so much like 540 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: the Watson situation, where he's showing up to camp but 541 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: has made it clear I do not want to be here, 542 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: don't want to put the helmet on, don't want to 543 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: go on the practice field. I want to be moved. 544 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: We wonder if Chandler Jones takes the same approach, reports 545 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: the training camp and then says, hey, look I'm here. 546 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm just here so I don't get fined basically, and 547 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: then doesn't practice or whatever. Yeah, and it says if 548 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones available via trade, it would be a long 549 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: line at a long list of teams in that line 550 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: trying to get that guy. Yeah, I mean we should 551 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: mention there are still some other veteran pass rushers out 552 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: there on the market where you don't have to give 553 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: up anything but money. Justin Houston is a pass rusher 554 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: who's still out there on the free agent market. I 555 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: think he's a year older than Chandler Jones, who is 556 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: thirty one. I've got to believe, though, Steve, when when 557 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals signed J. J. Watt, they did it under 558 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: the assumption that Chandler Jones would be on the other 559 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: side of the pass rushing formation. There and Jones and Watt. Yeah, 560 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 1: that's a hell of a tandem, and it's probably one 561 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: of the biggest reasons why they didn't resign their former 562 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: first round draft choice at a temple whose name is 563 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: going to escape me now, because he landed in Carolina 564 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: as a free agent signing. I gotta look it up, Dank, 565 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: got it. Sorry, I just kicked me off so much 566 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: I can't help you. Um, he was an outside linebacker. 567 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: He was a top fifteen pick. Um, not Simmons. No, 568 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: that that's two years ago. Year he signed the past, Carol, 569 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: I gotta find it. I'll find it any in any event, Um, 570 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: they probably thought they would have Jones and Watt Hassan 571 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Reddick is who I'm thinking of. Hassan Reddick. They didn't 572 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: resign Hassan Reddick because they signed Watton free agency and 573 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: assume Jones would just be on the other side. Two 574 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: veteran pass rushers coming off both edges for them, so 575 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: they didn't resign Hassan Reddick. Now Chandler Jones wants out, 576 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: so that could get sticky and we'll have to see 577 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: where that goes going forward. I wonder how long they've 578 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: known about his discontent with his contract. I mean, did 579 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: he just show up to training campuses oh by the way, 580 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: or did they know this was brewing for a while? Yeah, 581 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean it said Jeremy Fowler said, sometime this offseason 582 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: he made a trade request. Is not immediately clear, so 583 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: maybe that will come to light in terms of the 584 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: when that was first made plain by Chandler Jones and 585 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: his representatives, because we don't know that is not clear 586 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: at this point in time. It doesn't sound like it 587 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: is something that just came up. However, it's only coming 588 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: to light now as training camps are about to open. 589 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: So it's a storyline that a reporter if he gets 590 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: news of that, it's certainly worth reporting because it's like, 591 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: well as Jones going to come or not because he's 592 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: apparently been unhappy for how long? We just don't know, 593 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: so I'm sure we'll know more once Chandler Jones either 594 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: does or does not report to training camp later this week. 595 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: Break time for Steve and I, But when we come back, 596 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: we'll get to some of your initial thoughts on the 597 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: tweet sheet in terms of what you believe will be 598 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: the biggest benefit to the Bills in preparation for the 599 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season. Is it a full offseason program, 600 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: full training camp. Is it actually getting to play preseason games? 601 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: You know how much the defense was behind last year 602 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: without playing real football and pats until I got to 603 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: the regular season, or is it something else you let 604 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: us know? Eighth three, five fifty Back in a second 605 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live presented by Kalata Health. It's 606 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. We will get to the tweet sheet 607 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: in just a minute, But there is an update on 608 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers situation NFL Network Scene and Rappaport is 609 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: reporting that Aaron Rodgers has indicated to people close to 610 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: him that he does plan to play for Green Bay 611 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: this season. Sources say that is the expectation. Many factors 612 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: at play, but with GM Brian Gutencous saying he is 613 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: quote hopeful for a positive outcome, there is a glimmer 614 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: of optimism, and that's what I interpreted. You know, far 615 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: be it from me to be an expert on Instagram hostings, 616 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: But when Aaron Rodgers and DeVante Adams put the same 617 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: Instagram post out with the same photo of basically Scottie 618 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: Pippen and Michael Jordan, you know, knuckle pumping each other. 619 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: And the most recent memory of those two is the 620 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: documentary The Last Dance, which chronicled the last season they 621 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: spent together as a dynasty type team. Everybody, along with myself, 622 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: began to speculate, well, this is probably them saying, hey, 623 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: let's just play for twenty twenty one, and then that's 624 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: probably it. So Tan He'll and Aaron Rodgers will come 625 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: in and dutifully go through the motions for the preseason. 626 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: And it's interesting too. Kevin Cole from Pro Football Focus 627 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: put this out. He said, once it came out that 628 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was going to play this season for the Packers, 629 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: he said, a ps, you're welcome NFL media for giving 630 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: us giving you something to talk about for three months. Yeah, 631 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: he's right, He is right. And the reigning MVP was 632 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: disgruntled with a team that drafted him and he's played 633 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: for for sixteen years and won World championship with And 634 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: I know Andrew Brandt, who actually worked in the Packers 635 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: front office and who has been on this show several times, 636 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: has said to us more than once, especially when we 637 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: were dealing with the new CBA last year and all 638 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: of that stuff. He says this a lot, and he's 639 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: probably not the only person that says this, but he 640 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: has said oftentimes deadlines is what creates movement and most 641 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: usually progress. And here we are on the cusp of 642 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: training camp, and it looks like things might be moving, 643 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: even if it's at a glacial like pace. Right now, 644 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: there is some thought that there is some kind of 645 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: movement going on here because it wasn't long ago that 646 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was adamantly against even wearing that uniform again. Right, 647 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: So there, but you forget I mean these And here's 648 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: the interesting part that has come about in this generation 649 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: of players that has made be a little different than 650 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: former generations of players because of the open nature of 651 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: free agency and the fact that players can cross talk 652 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: across the aisle, you know, across the sidelines from each other. 653 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, these players have the same agents, they have, 654 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: the same marketing people they have you know, they they're 655 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: friends basically, and they have, more so than at any 656 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: other time in history, confidence that there's going to be 657 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: a market for their services even if they raise a stink. 658 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: You know, if they don't like what's going on with 659 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: their club, and they can be patient enough, they can 660 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: hit free agency and hit a home run that will 661 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: make it financially worth whatever hardships they had to do 662 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: to that. Aaron Rodgers knows that as well as anybody, 663 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: and it's been played out, like I said, for other 664 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: players around the league in the same position. So more 665 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: so than any of the time. The players are starting 666 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: to flex, and I we had this conversation earlier in 667 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: the offseason as well. It'll start out like this. It'll 668 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: be quarterbacks where they kind of flex and then you know, 669 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is actually trying to do it. Now. You know, 670 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: some of the elite players in the NFL, the one 671 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: percenters in a league full of guys that are one percenters. Uh, 672 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: they're going to be start flexing and slowly but surely, 673 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: over the passage of time, and each generation of new 674 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: player comes in, it'll be quarterbacks, then it'll be the 675 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: pass rushers, then it will be the left tackles, then 676 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: it'll be corners, you know, and it'll be you know, 677 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: those guys will flex and they'll start to say, hey, 678 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: here's what I want to play here, here, here, I 679 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: want to I'm not signing that deal unless it's a 680 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: one year deal, not a five year deal. So that'll happen. 681 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: And this is I think this is the you know, 682 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: the embryonic stage of that change. I do find it 683 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: interesting that Rogers has chosen to back channel this almost 684 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: completely from the word go. He has rarely said anything 685 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: publicly first person. It's all been back channels and it's 686 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: only continuing now. I mean Ian Rappaport, Aaron Rodgers is 687 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: indicated to people close to him that he does plan 688 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: to play for Green Bay this season. Sources say like 689 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: that is classic back channeling, and then the Packers have 690 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: wisely kept the peace. I mean Mark Murphy did it 691 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: again today when he was asked about Aaron Rodgers. He said, 692 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: we want him back. We're committed to him for twenty 693 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: twenty one and beyond. He's our leader. We're looking forward 694 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: to winning another Super Bowl. I mean, that's basically the 695 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: best way possible for a guy who's got his fingers 696 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: and toes crossed to keep the fan base calm. So yeah, 697 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: So here's so they don't riot and turn on Aaron Rodgers. Now, 698 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: the cynical guys in the media that you know, the 699 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: guys who cover the stuff and take every look at 700 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: everything as if it was a dead at a dead lie, 701 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, dead ineeye lie. They're all saying, oh that 702 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: this is just Aaron Rodgers wanting attention. It's you know, 703 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: this was drama. This says we all knew this was 704 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: going to happen. I think it's more than that he 705 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: turned down a deal, that's true. That makes it more 706 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: than that he was going to turn He turned down 707 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: a deal to be the highest paid player in a 708 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: league where that means something. That's I mean, that makes 709 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: this more than just Aaron Rodgers wanting attention. It makes 710 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: it more than him just flexing. This makes it about 711 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: him after this year, not being a part of the 712 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers going forward and it's another top flight quarterback, 713 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: hall of fame quarterback who at the quite twilight of 714 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: his career, wants to see something. He wants to look 715 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: at a different face as a head coach, wants to 716 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: look at a different logo on his helmet, wants to 717 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: see himself in a different jersey. They want to see 718 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: They want to get out and see what it's like 719 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: to play on another team. And so I don't you 720 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: can say what you want about Aaron Rodgers coming back 721 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: to Green Bay. It was gonna be hard for him 722 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: out of them because it came out of the blue. 723 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: He's an MVP last year, they were that close to 724 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: get into the Super Bowl and having a chance to 725 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: win it. And why you know, that's all honky dorry 726 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 1: for the players on the planet. And you can argue 727 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: that some less than ideal coaching may have cost them 728 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: an opportunity in the Super bwl kicking the field goal 729 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: in the right NFC title game. So why so, I 730 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: don't think this was about Aaron Rodgers being board with 731 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: the offseason, wants some attention and liking the attention and 732 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: being one of those guys and the Jeopardy thing and 733 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: all that. I think the guys, listen, if I'm gonna 734 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,959 Speaker 1: play this game from now on, I've made I've made 735 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: two piles of money. I'm gonna do it on my 736 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: own terms and play where I want, when I want. 737 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it how I want. And this is 738 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: he started laying groundwork for that. And as hard as 739 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: it will be to get out of that contract in 740 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay, but this does lay that groundwork for this 741 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: next offseason. We'll just wait and see. At this point, 742 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: will it sabotage this season has the potential too if it, 743 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you right now, Aaron Rodgers might come back, 744 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: he might be preparing to play and everything, but this 745 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: guy's on a hair trigger. All that's gonna take is 746 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: somebody saying the wrong thing. I don't know, you know 747 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, I mean, like who depends on 748 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: who it is. His teammates, Yes, his teammates, the front office. 749 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: Front office says, management says the wrong thing. All bets 750 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: are off. I don't know if I don't know if 751 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: he's come on, man, you're making him out like it, 752 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, like he's a diva. I don't think he's 753 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: got a little diva at the beginning you know what, 754 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a diva. I think he's an assassin. 755 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: He does not a silent assass He does not let 756 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: emotion get in the way of anything, and if he can, 757 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: he'll ruthlessly take your life. And that means Gudacunst, Mark Murphy, 758 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: he does not care. I am not to be trifled with. 759 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: He is an execution and I don't think he's a 760 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: diva in any way, shape or form. I think he's cold, 761 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: hard and calculated and he's got a plan. Well yeah, 762 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: but the only thing is he doesn't hold all the 763 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: cards in that plan, and that's why he's gonna probably 764 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 1: have to come crawling back to the team and play 765 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: this year. That's probably what's gonna I hardly think coming 766 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: back as the reigning MVP is crawling back. Well, I 767 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: think we can agree he doesn't really want to play there. 768 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: Those that may be, but that's why Guda Kunst and 769 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy are going to be there shining his shoes 770 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: when he gets there. Well, right, but he's still playing 771 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: in a place where he clearly doesn't want to be 772 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: right now, Yes, but it does make for a little 773 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: different atmosphere when the entire with the top guys at 774 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: the organization are like vacants. You're like not to be scenes. 775 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: Get out of the way, stay out of the locker room. 776 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: Don't talk to my teammates. Yeah, if you do, it's 777 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: gonna be in the media and we're gonna have a headache. 778 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean that is Yeah. I don't think he's a diva, 779 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: like his feelings are hurt and he's gonna come crawling 780 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: back to this team. I I think he's coming back 781 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: and he's carrying a stick with a nail stuck through 782 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: the other end. All right, we'll see. I'm telling you, man, 783 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: that could see that guy is cold and calculated. Yeah, 784 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: in my opinion, I could see it. I could see it. 785 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me, maybe because I just don't think 786 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: like that. He doesn't hold all the cards, which is 787 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: what has him so rankled in the first place. I 788 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: think he took some of the cards out of their 789 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: hand this offseason. Well, he as much as he could, right, 790 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: but he still doesn't have all of them. He shuffled 791 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: the deck this offsea, he shuffled the deck, but he 792 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: still is not holding all the cards. And that's why 793 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: he's in this situation. He's in because if he did 794 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: hold all the cards, he wouldn't even be going thinking 795 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: about going back to Green Bay. But he's not in 796 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: that position. But you know what he did, and if 797 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: we're using this analogy, he forced I know we're splitting hairs. 798 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: He forced the packers to show their cards. Yes, and 799 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: maybe that was the best he could do in this situation, 800 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: and he did it. Break time for us. When Steve 801 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: and I come back, I promise we'll get to the 802 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: tweet sheet as we are asking you at eight oh 803 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two 804 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: five fifty what will benefit the Bills the most going 805 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty one season that they really didn't 806 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: have at their disposal in the twenty twenty off season 807 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: in the throes of the pandemic. We understand the COVID 808 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: protocols are still in place for the unvaccinated people. Where 809 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: there was a full off season, there's gonna be a 810 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: training camp that actually has padded practices, new personnel on 811 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: the roster, preseason games will be played. What will benefit 812 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: the Bills the most as they get ready for a 813 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: highly anticipated twenty twenty one campaign. You can let us 814 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: know at eight three five fifty back in a second 815 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: Here on one Bills Live, presented by collid to Health, 816 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. At a Steve Tasker who has 817 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: been all over the field. Kind of unique. He was 818 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you. Stave, Steve 819 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the strated fere of normalcy. 820 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to our number two Monday edition at one Bills Live. 821 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: Here in training camp week, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. Court 822 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: day is tomorrow for veterans. First practice on the field 823 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: is Wednesday. We'll have wall to wall coverage not only 824 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live, but also on Buffalo bills 825 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 1: dot com for all your training camp information needs. Twitter 826 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: poll today deals with what you feel will be the 827 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,280 Speaker 1: biggest benefit to this Bills team going into the twenty 828 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty one season. Knowing the twenty twenty season was a 829 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: unique one in every way, shape and form due to 830 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: the pandemic, how will this roster as it's currently constituted 831 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: benefit the most going into this regular season? Will they 832 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: benefit most from the full off season program and a 833 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: training camp that will have padded practices, among other things, 834 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: new personnel on the roster or playing preseason games, and 835 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: there's some interesting choices here. I know, it's been heavily 836 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: slanted the voting anyway towards the full off season program 837 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: and training camp. And if you remember Steve last year, 838 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: there was a run up to full training camp practice 839 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: because of the extended layoff and truncated offseason program that 840 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: everybody had, which was almost entirely virtual because of the pandemic, 841 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: and so basically there was not a single practice in 842 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: training camp in which the pads went on and they 843 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 1: had even thud, like full blown thud, let alone full 844 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: contact for a series or two like they have every year, 845 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, down around the goal line, you know, six 846 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 1: twelve plays whatever. It made a different for the offenses, 847 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: but man defenses across the league were woefully behind. Scoring 848 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: was at an all time high. And I'm not saying 849 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: that's the only reason, but if you ask defensive players, 850 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: a lot of them will tell you we didn't practice 851 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: real football until Week one. Right. It's and I don't 852 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: know that it's that it helped the offenses as much 853 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: as hurt the defenses, and as well as you know, 854 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: a couple all that with the way the game was 855 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: officiated early on in the season and throughout. They didn't 856 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: call holding penalties an offensive linemen they let They spotted 857 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: the ball quick and haphazardly. At times, they didn't you know, 858 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: narrow it into inches and inches. They were giving them 859 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: yard lines as to the half yard lines or third 860 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: yard lines or an inches short of yard lines. The 861 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: games played a little faster, and because the games went 862 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: at such a brisk pace, particularly early in the season, 863 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: everybody was just kind of shrugging their shoulders, said, Wow, 864 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: this is not too bad for the offseason we had, 865 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: plus the distraction of are they gonna play? Once the 866 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: games got there, everybody just kind of said, okay, great, 867 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: and they didn't really Most people, particularly casual fans, didn't 868 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 1: notice how different the game was than what had been, 869 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, the year previous and what it has been 870 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: in years past. The physicality was less. There were a 871 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: ton of mistackles all over there, not just you know, 872 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: I just here in Buffalo, like we're talking about, you know, 873 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: the Bills team and all the stuff they said about 874 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: not really getting a chance to practice. It was the 875 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: same all over the league. Scoring was way up. The 876 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 1: Bills were a beneficiary that with their offense and certainly 877 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: they took a step on their own in conjunction with that. 878 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: But every defense across the league struggled early on with 879 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 1: the physicality of it, Tackling, mistackles yards after contact were up, 880 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: I believe, and you know, and the officiating for me 881 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: just as me, like you'd see offensive lineman come off 882 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: and man, they had bear hugs on guys and it 883 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,479 Speaker 1: was you know, it's just like, you know, let them play. 884 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: So this year may or may not be different than that. 885 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they saw some things as a league office and 886 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: the officiate and the officiating arm of the NFL saw 887 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 1: some things they liked and want to continue. You can. 888 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: They are constantly evaluating how it looks and how it 889 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 1: feels on the air, and what football people say about 890 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: the consistency of it. And I've said time and time 891 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: and time again, the players, coaches, they do not care 892 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: what the rule book says you can or can't do 893 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: as is. Just tell us and officiate it consistently weekend, 894 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: week out, ye game to game across the league every weekend. 895 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: Call it the same all the time. That's all we ask. 896 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: And as long as they do that, the players and 897 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: coaches will adjust their techniques and their attack and defense. 898 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: Everything they'll they'll adjust accordingly. But last year at the 899 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, there was a lot of that 900 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: that was subtle. There were many things that were subtly 901 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: different because of the pandemic, and I think it all 902 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: conspired to, for the most part, make the game kind 903 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: of attractive, particularly here in Buffalo. It's easy to say 904 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 1: that because then it was a fun team to watch 905 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: last year, but it was a completely different team than 906 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: we any of us thought we were going to get. Yeah. 907 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: I think the other when I was looking at the 908 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 1: poll today, I was saying to myself, Okay, there's there's 909 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: some choices here that you would almost just knee jerk 910 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: and pick. But as you go down the list, it's like, okay, 911 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: full offseason program, full training camp. That's obviously going to 912 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: be a benefit in comparison to last year. That, yes, absolutely, 913 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: but is it more beneficial than preseason games? Like you 914 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: think about the rookies on this roster or the unproven 915 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 1: players in the secondary. I mean, think about the cornerbacks 916 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: on this roster right now, outside of tarn Johnson, Tredavious White, 917 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: sirand Neil and Levi Wallace. I think in terms of 918 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: games played, Dane Jackson has five and Cam Lewis has five, 919 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: So then Rashad Wild, Goose, Elijah Griffin, Nick McLeod, I mean, 920 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: you've got some unproven players here that would benefit in 921 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: a huge way lining up in three NFL preseason games. 922 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: Well where they Here's the thing, Greg Rousseau, boogie bash them. 923 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: You might need these guys and you say they could 924 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 1: benefit from it. Here's how they benefit. They're if they're 925 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 1: good enough, they're gonna they're good enough. They benefit from 926 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: being able to show how good they can be. How 927 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: are you gonna how are you gonna win a job 928 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 1: as a physical corner if that's your game? Last year 929 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 1: when you couldn't even tackle, you couldn't you couldn't bang guys, 930 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 1: You couldn't be physical because you know, you don't have 931 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 1: pads on. How many guys couldn't showcase what their skill 932 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: set was, specifically because of the preseason constraints that are 933 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 1: normal not there guys like that. You'll see him come 934 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,360 Speaker 1: in and you know, defensive lineman, same thing, pass rushers, 935 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: How you know, how are you going to do that? 936 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: How are you going to convince a coaching staff as 937 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie, free agent, or even a free agent 938 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,439 Speaker 1: at all, a guy who's not a draft pick or whatever, 939 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: or anybody. How are you going to convince the coaching 940 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: staff that you've got the physical nature it needs to 941 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: play your position when you never get a chance to 942 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: see it. That's what they were up against last year. 943 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 1: This year, if they're if you're good enough, you're gonna 944 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 1: make it, you got to think. But not if they 945 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: don't see it, and in preseason games they get a 946 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: chance to see it. That's right. Let's go to the 947 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: tweet sheet, which is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, 948 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. As 949 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: we dive right in, and let's see we lead off 950 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: with Tiffany, who says, I believe the investment on the 951 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: d line through the draft will have the most positive 952 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: impact on the team. The competition for a roster spot 953 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,240 Speaker 1: will make for an interesting training camp battle. It should 954 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: bring the best out of the incumbents and the young 955 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: guys trying to win a starting job. Yeah, we know, 956 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: competition raises the level of everybody involved. I don't think 957 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 1: there's any question about that. Is that the thing so 958 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: she's going with personnel. Obviously, in the Twitter poll she 959 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: went with c for her choice. And while I think 960 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: everybody is encouraged by the influx of youth that this 961 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: team acquired via the draft, maybe even to a certain 962 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: extent undrafted free agency, I don't know that, even with 963 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: the best training camp, that Gregor Rousseau and Boogie Basham 964 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: are going to be playing a ton at least at 965 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: the outset of the season. Do you mean in the 966 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: regular season, Yeah, regular season, I think it will. I don't. Well, 967 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: it's easy to say probably, don't think so, because we 968 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 1: have so much to prove, right, there's no doubt that 969 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: they can work themselves in there. They could, but we've 970 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: just seen how coach McDermot and his staff handle it 971 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: like they usually force you to earn it. Now, if 972 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 1: you prove you're good enough, like Trdavious White did, you'll 973 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: be on the field. And Gabriel Davis right, I mean, 974 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: there's there are examples, Yes, Cody Ford. I mean there 975 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: have been guys who have gotten on the field, even 976 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: with Cody Ford switching back and forth and not, you know, 977 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: not getting a chance to really find his feet at 978 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: any position. But he was on the field for sure, 979 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: because he was just physically better than the guys behind him. 980 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: You'll get guys like a Greg Russo or a Boogie 981 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: Basham and um who will say, you know what, Week one, 982 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: the Bills kick off to start the game and that 983 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: front four runs out there and Greg Russo's there and 984 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: in place of whoever you pick, that's that says a lot. 985 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: And what are you gonna do if they roll that 986 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: first guy first and ten ball on the twenty ball 987 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: kicks out of the end zone. Opening day, September twelfth 988 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Bills kickoff, kick it out 989 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: of the end zone snap number one. Defensively an outroll 990 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: at Oliver Starlotu La Boogie Basham and Greg Rousseau and 991 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: and Jerry Hughes is standing over there beside. Yeah. I'm 992 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: not saying it can happen. I'm not saying it can't either. 993 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to ye, but I'm saying 994 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I will go out on this is 995 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: as much as I will say if they if they 996 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: earn it, if they are the guys, they will Oh yeah. 997 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: That's the one thing that Sean McDermott and his staff 998 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: does not do not quibble about it. They don't play favorites, 999 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: they do not they don't care who it is. You 1000 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: earn it, you get it, and that is why people 1001 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,439 Speaker 1: love playing for these coaches. You get what you earn. 1002 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 1: And if you do it when nobody's watching and nobody 1003 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: else can see it, like on the practice field or whatever, 1004 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna make sure you get into a spot where 1005 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: everybody will see it. Yeah, that's that is an enormous 1006 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: carrot that is out there for all of the players 1007 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: on this roster, and I that word has spread beyond 1008 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: the walls of one Bill's drive. I mean they're you 1009 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: know guys, you know other players Arizona and Miami and 1010 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: all these places where the players have gone and come 1011 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: back to this place or gone from this place. Out there, 1012 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: they tell those guys, listen, you get it. You got 1013 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: to go every day. And but if you do, you 1014 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: get it, you know you earn it. And it's I 1015 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: think that, as much as anything else, is the hallmark 1016 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: of why Sean McDermott has been so successful thus far 1017 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Vito on the tweet sheet says last season, 1018 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: the defense was much improved during the second half of 1019 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: the season. A full training camp should get the defense 1020 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: up to speed quicker. I'm hoping for a top ten 1021 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,919 Speaker 1: defense this year with a top three offense, and let's 1022 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: go win a Super Bowl. I agree with Vito one hundred. 1023 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: I really just listening to Micah Hyde after the Week 1024 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: one game, or maybe is like week three, after a 1025 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: couple of games, explain why it was so hard for 1026 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: defensive players to adjust to regular season football. It crystallized 1027 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: it for me. They hadn't tackled anybody for real since 1028 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: the previous January in Houston in the playoff game. So 1029 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 1: now you come in and yes, you're executing plays, whether 1030 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: it's a walkthrough or a padless practice, but the fundamentals 1031 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: of actually wrapping somebody up and tackling them, outside of 1032 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: tackling those rolling donuts at the practice that they roll 1033 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: out there in the drills and done it right, it's 1034 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: easy to think two. And here's the thing you can 1035 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: say about offensive linemen. I don't know if I can 1036 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: speak to that. I mean, it is different for them 1037 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: not having gone live against it, but particularly in the 1038 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: throwing league where these guys are backing up and it's 1039 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: more about getting in front of guys than it is 1040 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: going out and attacking them like you would in a 1041 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: run game. But you're talking about it is vastly different 1042 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: for a defense that doesn't have contact drills in the preseason, 1043 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 1: then it is an offense. Your skill position on offense, 1044 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: it's choreographed and the contact happens after you have the 1045 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: ball in your hand, when it's instinctual. It's not technique 1046 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: oriented like it is on the defensive side, where you run, chase, 1047 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: and react and you got to fill a gap and 1048 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: then do so in a physical manner whether the balls 1049 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: there or not. It's it's completely different for the defensive 1050 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 1: side of the football to get acclimated to the physical 1051 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: nature of the game that it is the offense. Offense 1052 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: is all the skill positions in offense. You know, certainly 1053 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe the running backs in pass pros stepping up into 1054 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: a gap and getting a hat on a guy, certainly 1055 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 1: that's something they have to adjust to. But everything else, 1056 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: it's easier for offensive guys to come out and just 1057 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 1: run through, run the round, catch it, and then you know, 1058 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: flinch for contact. You know, that's it's vastly different for 1059 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: the guys on the defensive side. And that's why I 1060 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: think it's a real good a real point to be 1061 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: made about how much we can expect that's going to 1062 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: be different about this year for defenses across the National 1063 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Football League. Nick says on the tweet sheet, I'm hoping 1064 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 1: the preseason will help our defense get into a rhythm 1065 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: before Week one. I don't think it was a coincidence 1066 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: that the one year under McDermott that our defense wasn't 1067 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: great was the same year that we didn't have a preseason. 1068 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a return to twenty nineteen four. How 1069 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: good with a full preseason? How buttoned up should we 1070 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: expect this defense to be? Granted, there will be some 1071 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 1: changes in terms of personnel. We're assuming someone somewhere is 1072 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: going to win a starting job, maybe that we did 1073 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 1: not anticipate, you know, maybe aj ep Andes. It completely 1074 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: rips it up in training camp in the preseason, it 1075 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: ends up being the starting left hand. That could happen. 1076 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Star Latoula is back cam Lewis. Cam Lewis could push 1077 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: tarn Johnson in the slot, Dane Jackson, whoever Dane Jackson. 1078 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: So there, you know, you arguably you could have three 1079 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: new starters on a defense, but the vast majority of 1080 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: those guys have been together for three or four years, 1081 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: full training camp, full preseason to get tuned up. They're 1082 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna be loaded for Bear in Week one. That group, Yes, 1083 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: especially after I think they felt they they underachieved their 1084 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: own standards, especially through the first two thirds of the season. 1085 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: I would agree with that completely. I would. And I 1086 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,919 Speaker 1: think they're gonna have it turned up an arch. Plus, 1087 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna be playing against a team that they've seen 1088 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: on a regular basis over the last two years. They 1089 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 1: played Pittsburgh, you know, the last couple of years, and 1090 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: so it's not it's all, it's not quite as familiar 1091 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: as it is for a division opponent, but it's not 1092 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: somebody like an out of out of division, out of 1093 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 1: conference team, you know, like like the NFC West was 1094 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: a year ago, that kind of thing. They see. They 1095 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: seem to see Pittsburgh, you know, once a year, so 1096 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,919 Speaker 1: they'll be ready to show up on you know, opening Day. 1097 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: And you got to know, two, Pittsburgh's trying to evolve 1098 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: away from what they devolved into at the end of 1099 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: last year, where they you know, it was a hundred 1100 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: percent throw and never more than five yards down the field. 1101 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a devolution for the Steelers, right, 1102 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they regressed and so you'll get more of 1103 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 1: a complete offense against them on opening Day. But I 1104 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: think the Bills will. You're right, I think the expectations 1105 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: the Bills will have of themselves this year coming into 1106 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: Week one are going to be vastly different than they 1107 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 1: were even at the end of twenty twenty. It leaves 1108 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:43,439 Speaker 1: me very encouraged because we think about the top five 1109 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: defense that was in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, and then 1110 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: last year they slide off a little bit in certain 1111 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: areas and we've gone over the deficiencies that they had. 1112 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: They did get better in the last quarter of the season, 1113 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: even like our most recent Twitter Nick pointed out. So 1114 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the the ability, I think very much is still there 1115 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: for this group to be a top five defense if 1116 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 1: they can be even in the top ten and the 1117 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: offense can have a similar similar success to what they 1118 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: experienced last year. I mean, there are very few teams 1119 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: that are top ten on both offense and defense that 1120 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 1: don't go a really long way in this league, right, 1121 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 1: very few. Certainly it can happen, but you know, particularly 1122 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: when you get into the playoffs and it's one and 1123 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: done and you and you cough it up three times 1124 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 1: unexpectedly or something like that. But that's where both sides 1125 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 1: of this, the line of scrimmage on this team have 1126 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 1: got to have their expectations really high. I think it's 1127 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: a I don't want to say it. I don't think 1128 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen's going to regress or become somebody different 1129 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:54,919 Speaker 1: or go back to who he was two years ago 1130 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: or three years ago. I think he is who he is, 1131 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 1: who he saw him be all of last year. But 1132 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: statistically they may be they may be a plateau. And 1133 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's scoring five hundred points is a big number. 1134 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: It's a big number. So I don't know that they're 1135 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: going to continue at that pace, but certainly their production 1136 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 1: and they have every reason to think that they're going 1137 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 1: to be very good comparatively speaking to the other franchises, 1138 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 1: and the Bill's defense I certainly think can take a 1139 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: bigger step forward this next year, this next season. So 1140 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: if they do that, if the office just can't can 1141 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: maintain and the defense takes a step forward to where 1142 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 1: it was two years ago with virtually the same lineup 1143 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: and even better lineup now supposedly a better lineup. Yeah, 1144 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 1: that's why we're sitting where we are thinking that the 1145 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game is the beginning, not the end. Break 1146 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: time here for us. Steve and I come back with 1147 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: more of your thoughts on the tweet sheet, as well 1148 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,439 Speaker 1: as maybe a little what's for lunch? It's been a while. 1149 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: They need to see what's on the menu. When we 1150 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 1: were turning Here on One Bills Live presented by Kalid 1151 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 1: to Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. Second half of the 1152 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 1: show underway Here One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 1153 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: with you, and we are discussing the benefits of a 1154 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 1: let's just say, closer to normal run up to a 1155 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: regular season. This could be construed last year was a 1156 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 1: was zero preseason and it was a totally different type 1157 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 1: of preseason. This one would be more of a different preseason, 1158 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: not just yeah, you know, let's just in the group 1159 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: in the gray scale of you know, whatever it is. 1160 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: This one's not near the bottom like last year. Was 1161 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 1: only three preseason games instead of four, although in many 1162 01:06:54,800 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 1: respects the fourth is a throwaway. Oh my god, thank 1163 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you so much, thank you for nothing because we forget 1164 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. We're gonna be it's gonna be 1165 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: great off and about ten minutes into that first preseason game, 1166 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna be like this. I'm trying to I'm trying 1167 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:18,919 Speaker 1: to remember how we felt last summer when we knew 1168 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 1: preseason games were not part of the equation. Were we like, 1169 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: did training camp drag because of that? It started later? 1170 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 1: It started what a few what was it a week 1171 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 1: later than it was support supposed to. I know, but 1172 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 1: you're like, we don't even see it. No, I know that, 1173 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like, we didn't even have 1174 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 1: that to chew on for a couple, if you know, 1175 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: for two or three weeks, as hard as they were 1176 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 1: four real football training camp was a rumor last year, 1177 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 1: right they'd pop on a little computer screen, said, yeah 1178 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: we're practicing. Yeah, stuff's going on. We're doing this thing, 1179 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,439 Speaker 1: and that's it. I know, But I'm just I can't 1180 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 1: even remember what my thoughts were at that time last year, 1181 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: knowing there were no preseason games to kind of evaluate 1182 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 1: like younger players on the roster. How was Zach Moss 1183 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: gonna look, what does think you happen out, you know, 1184 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,440 Speaker 1: like in a game setting. They pop out on opening 1185 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: day and Gabe Davis is out for snap one yea 1186 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,440 Speaker 1: four wide. I'm like, what what what is that legal? 1187 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Like you can't play a rookie like that. You know, 1188 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: that was it. It was totally and I forget, don't forget. 1189 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Last year every head coach in the NFL was dealt 1190 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: a hand of cards, I get it, and all of 1191 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 1: them had the cards together, face down in a safe, 1192 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 1: locked inside a cave under a volcano. Nobody knew what 1193 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,600 Speaker 1: anybody was doing, and they loved it. They loved it. 1194 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 1: They were lapping it out. It's so training. We're such 1195 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 1: a challenge. We're just struggling to get everything. And we're 1196 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: just struggling to get everything, and you know, installed the 1197 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 1: players are working hard, but man oh man, we're really 1198 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 1: up against Meanwhile, they're like burning the candle at both ends. 1199 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,599 Speaker 1: They're they're in stalling all this stuff. And they they 1200 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 1: all come out on opening day and everybody scores thirty points. 1201 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: You know, they were like just going crazy. They we 1202 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about what the bills were gonna look like. 1203 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,719 Speaker 1: We did. We thought Josh Allen was gonna complete maybe, 1204 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he gets up to sixty if if 1205 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 1: if everything goes perfect and he gets a couple of breaks, 1206 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: maybe he'll complete sixty four sixty five percent of his 1207 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,639 Speaker 1: passes and you know, things will good. You know, as 1208 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: it was, he comes out and they're looking like you 1209 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: know then the early eighty forty nine ers. Man, they're 1210 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: throwing it all over the joint. You know, there was 1211 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 1: a run and shoot offense. Four wides, let's go, and 1212 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 1: I myself included, nobody could have been more surprised at 1213 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: the way they looked. And the other thing too, was 1214 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, you're the fans, Yeah, you didn't really know 1215 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: what to expe act. Neither did we, And as I said, 1216 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 1: that's just the way the coaches wanted it. But the 1217 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: opponents were as in the dark, maybe as they've ever been. 1218 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, we hear it all the time in the preseason. Ah, 1219 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: they're playing very vanilla with their schemes and everything, but 1220 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: you can still get a feel for personnel groupings. You know, 1221 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: who they want on the field quote unquote starters, those 1222 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 1: kinds of things, whose second string, Who can we anticipate 1223 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: on the field in the event of an injury, you 1224 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 1: know that kind of stuff. Packages for downs and distances, 1225 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 1: sub packages on defense, who's their top two gunners, all 1226 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. You didn't know any of that as an 1227 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 1: opponent of any team in the league. And that's probably 1228 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 1: now that we're talking about it, it's really contributing factors 1229 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 1: to how fast the team's got off offensively starting because 1230 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 1: nobody knew nothing. You had no idea who they liked 1231 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 1: or what they like to do. The bills were probably 1232 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 1: the biggest benefits year. That are one of the biggest 1233 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: beneficiaries that because everybody thought Josh Allen was gonna, like, 1234 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:09,759 Speaker 1: you know, not be that good, and he was. Plus, 1235 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: you can spend all your time, Brent, and I get it. 1236 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 1: When you install an offense, particularly when people are watching, 1237 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: you stall the basics. Then you go. Then you work 1238 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,480 Speaker 1: off you know, you work into different areas of offensive philosophy, 1239 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: like the zone running scheme and the power runs game, 1240 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 1: and the intermediate passing game, the short passing game, the 1241 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,679 Speaker 1: vertical passing game, the screen pass game, all these different 1242 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 1: areas and facets of every offense that you have, and 1243 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 1: you work on those. You put them start from the foundation. Here. 1244 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,759 Speaker 1: You didn't have to do that because you could say, okay, guys, 1245 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't care what our offensive words are, here's the 1246 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 1: first twenty five plays we're gonna run against the New 1247 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,759 Speaker 1: York Jets on opening day. Let's run them fifty times, 1248 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 1: and that's where we're gonna That's how we're gonna install 1249 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 1: our offense. You're gonna run. We're gonna know these plays 1250 01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 1: against every coverage, every defensive front, every look, here's every 1251 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,720 Speaker 1: check and balance, and here's every alert, everything they could 1252 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 1: possibly do against us. We're gonna have these fifty plays money, 1253 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 1: and we're going to run them all the time. And 1254 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,680 Speaker 1: you never have to show anything else to anybody in 1255 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,639 Speaker 1: a preseason game. But that's why I think offenses were 1256 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: able to dictate play through those first couple of weeks 1257 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: of the season, because there's no roadmap whatsoever, no intel 1258 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 1: like zero. And while I know the defense, you can say, wow, 1259 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: the defense is the same thing. They don't know what 1260 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 1: the defense is going to throw at them. True, true, 1261 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know how you feel 1262 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,560 Speaker 1: about this, but sometimes I feel like it's easier for 1263 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: offenses to come up with answers to things than defenses. Sometimes, Yeah, 1264 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: defenses a lot of times play catch up. Yeah, and 1265 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 1: it's very rare that a defense will maybe maybe you know, 1266 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: hop skip, you know, skip over what an offense development. 1267 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: Now you can guess right defensively as well. And then 1268 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: defense has a lot of other things going for it. 1269 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 1: For instance, ten guys on the defense can stink and 1270 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 1: get dominated one guy makes a play. Hey, great defense, right, 1271 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: So there's that going for the defense. But you're right, 1272 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 1: defenses they know there's you know, you got to cover 1273 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 1: the field, and for every guy that's eligible, you gotta 1274 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 1: have somebody on him. You can't leave somebody, you know, uncovered. 1275 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,640 Speaker 1: So you've got to be sound in your adjustments. So 1276 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,680 Speaker 1: if the offense all of a sudden shifts from one 1277 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 1: formation to another, you got to have a plan pre snap. Yeah, 1278 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,800 Speaker 1: he say, okay, if he's going over there, now he's 1279 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 1: not your guy anymore. He's this guy over here, you're 1280 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 1: going to cover him. That kind of stuff. All of 1281 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: that's basic football. But it's all reactionary defense, right, So 1282 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: you and you can say, listen, if they get into this, 1283 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 1: send the blitz from the other side, because there they can't, 1284 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 1: you know. Then that's that's game planning. When they get 1285 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 1: into this formation, they're vulnerable. Here, take advantage of it. 1286 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,640 Speaker 1: That's how a defense attacks, and that's you know, you 1287 01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,160 Speaker 1: can do that unless the offense never gets into that 1288 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:05,439 Speaker 1: formation against you. Yeah, so it's reactionaries a defense. And 1289 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 1: you're right, I don't know how those guys do it 1290 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 1: on that side of I've never played defensing, you know, 1291 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 1: high school I did, but I don't know how they 1292 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,280 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, but that is why scoring was at 1293 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: an all time high last year, because the offenses were 1294 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 1: dictating to the defense what was going down, because nobody 1295 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: had intel on what was coming at him through the 1296 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,920 Speaker 1: first two, maybe even three weeks of the season, knowing 1297 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: how deep offensive playbooks go, and I felt like defensive 1298 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 1: coordinators were playing catch up almost the entire season, not 1299 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,799 Speaker 1: only because they had no intel, but because their players 1300 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:45,280 Speaker 1: hadn't tackled anybody in eight months. It usually happens in 1301 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 1: early in particularly in preseason. You'll hear it all the time. 1302 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 1: The defense is always ahead of the offense because, like 1303 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: I said, the defense just reacts and runs. The offense 1304 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: has to be choreographed. If you do this, the guy 1305 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 1: next to you has to do what he's supposed to do. 1306 01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 1: Especially on the offensive line, he got to do it. 1307 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 1: He's and even in the outside on the offense with 1308 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,559 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley and Gabe Davis and Dick's if one guy 1309 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 1: runs a route, they have complimentary routes to runs. So 1310 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 1: it's got to be choreographed and that's hard to do. 1311 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 1: Out of the gate. A defense just getting the right air. 1312 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, if you're in his own defense, look at 1313 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,479 Speaker 1: the quarterback. If he's looking towards you, be ready for 1314 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 1: the ball and find the guy break on. It pretty simple, 1315 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what anybody else on the other 1316 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,000 Speaker 1: side of the field, as the ball's not going over there. 1317 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 1: You could have six guys open over there. But if 1318 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 1: he's throwing to this side, who cares. Defenses have always 1319 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 1: been ahead. They just react and go and when you're 1320 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 1: in training camp, that's all it takes. So last year 1321 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 1: I was shocked that I think we might I might 1322 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 1: have said early on the season it was gonna be 1323 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 1: just the opposite of what it actually was. Because the 1324 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: defense is just read and reacts. It's gonna be hard 1325 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 1: for offense to come up to speed and be ready 1326 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: for this and you know, be choreographed. Technique wise and stuff, 1327 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 1: and it was just the opposite of what I thought 1328 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 1: it might be. Like it has been in time immemorial 1329 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, defense comes out, they read and react 1330 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,680 Speaker 1: and they look great early in the preseason. You know, 1331 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 1: it was just the opposite of that. When when it 1332 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: kicked off last year, I was surprised. I still am. 1333 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 1: It was like, where is all this scoring coming? I mean, 1334 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: think about the Bills. I mean, now, the Bills proved 1335 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 1: to be a worthy point scoring It was more than 1336 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,719 Speaker 1: just all season long. Yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised 1337 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 1: if it helped build their confidence and give them some 1338 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: good early season momentum. And then credit to them, they 1339 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 1: not only sustained it, they built on top of it. 1340 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean because after that Arizona game, a game by 1341 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 1: the way, that in which they scored thirty points, they 1342 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 1: were off the chain. I mean they were just obliterating 1343 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:45,519 Speaker 1: opponents and scoring it will essentially. Yeah, it's you know, 1344 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,879 Speaker 1: we've talked about a lot, and we've all off seasons. 1345 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 1: Reared his head where some of the fans out there thinking, 1346 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's always the Chiefs at the end of 1347 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 1: the rainbow, right, I Mean, they're the ones that Bill's 1348 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 1: got to get by and I get that. But last year, 1349 01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,559 Speaker 1: if you'd taken in generally speaking, we've talked about a lot, 1350 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs had been to the AFC Championship game two 1351 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 1: times in a row, and I was on a team 1352 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,639 Speaker 1: that did that as well. You get to the point 1353 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 1: where that's the game that that's the only game that 1354 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 1: you gotta get to and win. So all this other stuff, 1355 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 1: and I've said it a ton, the Chiefs virtually coasted 1356 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,800 Speaker 1: through the regular season. That's how good they are. They were. 1357 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 1: They were winning games by three, winning games by four, 1358 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,200 Speaker 1: winning games by six, winning games by five. You know, 1359 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 1: they were just winning. And while it sounds simple, they 1360 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 1: never looked spectacular doing it, save the fact when they 1361 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,160 Speaker 1: turned it on when they played the Buccaneers early this season. 1362 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 1: You know, Tyreek Hills got four touchdowns in two minutes 1363 01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: or whatever it was. It was just unbelievable. They just 1364 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,639 Speaker 1: turned it loose, and that's when you saw all four 1365 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 1: gears of their offense. The Bills, on the other hand, 1366 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 1: they were still trying. They are trying to get to 1367 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship games, so they were playing their best 1368 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,479 Speaker 1: every week. Let's get there. We gotta do this, we 1369 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,760 Speaker 1: gotta go, we gotta get there, and the Chiefs are 1370 01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 1: just waiting for that game to happen, fully confident they 1371 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna get be there. The Bills got there and 1372 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: didn't didn't know from that point on what's now? What 1373 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 1: you know? They played not their best game and the 1374 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Chiefs that's the game they've been waiting on them. They 1375 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,559 Speaker 1: showed up big and it turns into a two touchdown game. 1376 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,120 Speaker 1: Even the Chiefs the week before against the Cleveland Browns, 1377 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,719 Speaker 1: the Browns could have beaten them, right, We should remember 1378 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes did go out in the fourth quarter with 1379 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 1: the injury. The Browns were all over those guys. Yeah, 1380 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,760 Speaker 1: but that wasn't the game that the Chiefs were focused on. 1381 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 1: You know. Now it's gonna I think the Bills now 1382 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: are saying, Okay, we're gonna get We got the guys 1383 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,599 Speaker 1: that get, we're gonna get there, and when we get there, 1384 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 1: watch us that. I think that's that's the kind of attitude, 1385 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 1: you know, or in the overarching scheme of things that 1386 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 1: you gotta, that you've got. It's gonna be interesting to 1387 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,800 Speaker 1: see how both the Browns and the Bills feel as 1388 01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,600 Speaker 1: it pertains to the Chiefs, because the Browns have the 1389 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs in week one, right, and then the Bills have 1390 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 1: them in week five, So it's going to be a 1391 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 1: major litmus test for both of those teams to say, 1392 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 1: what have you done since you played him last? How 1393 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 1: different does it look? Are you better, if at all? 1394 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 1: Are you a more complete team? Can you truly threaten 1395 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,639 Speaker 1: this group? Can you run with these guys? Let's see. 1396 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,479 Speaker 1: That's I think it's really intriguing. It is break time 1397 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 1: for us, Steve and I back shortly. More of your 1398 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet, and we've got some other 1399 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 1: stuff to dive into as well. On the NFL landscape. 1400 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Mort Cup here on One Bill's Live presented by Collid 1401 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, closing up 1402 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 1: our number two of a Monday edition of One Bills Live. 1403 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as always and as 1404 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 1: we wait with bated breath for veterans reporting tomorrow first 1405 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 1: practice Wednesday, and we will have it covered for you. 1406 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 1: Wall to walk here on One Bill's Live as well 1407 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,600 Speaker 1: as on Buffalo bills dot Com. Steve, I know you 1408 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,680 Speaker 1: saw this, so I'm not going to ask you. But 1409 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 1: the question I will pose is what was your initial 1410 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:26,720 Speaker 1: reaction upon seeing Tom Brady's tweet where he wrote the 1411 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 1: following training camp starts this week. I'm looking forward to 1412 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,560 Speaker 1: have some actual receivers again. And there is an accompanying 1413 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,600 Speaker 1: video which our MSG viewers are viewing right now. He 1414 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: is ten yards away from a jugs machine that is running. 1415 01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,040 Speaker 1: The wheels are spinning. He has a football in his hand. 1416 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 1: He throws it straight at the jugs machine, into the 1417 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: crevice between the two wheels, and the ball appears to 1418 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,960 Speaker 1: spit right back out to him. He takes a second throw, 1419 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,800 Speaker 1: puts it right in there again, throws it back to him. 1420 01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,920 Speaker 1: He backs up about another five yards throws a third 1421 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,639 Speaker 1: pass right into the teeth of the jugs machine. Again, 1422 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,200 Speaker 1: it falls over from the weight of the pass, shoots 1423 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,639 Speaker 1: it straight up in the air. Tom looks at the camera, 1424 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 1: walks off and says, let's go, what was your first 1425 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 1: reaction after you watched it. He's got a really good 1426 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,559 Speaker 1: camera crew. I mean it's not real. I mean it's 1427 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a great concept. Though it 1428 01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,320 Speaker 1: is a great concept, a neat little, you know thing. 1429 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 1: It looks great too. But yeah, it's I mean it's 1430 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I never even for a split second thought 1431 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 1: it was real, But I thought it was a good idea. 1432 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 1: It's a neat idea. I would venture to guess he 1433 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,680 Speaker 1: had a good portion of the Twitter population fooled with 1434 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,240 Speaker 1: this video. That he is in fact that accurate, that's well, 1435 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 1: that's because he may be that accurate, But the simple 1436 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,000 Speaker 1: fact matters. If you've ever seen a juge machine and 1437 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,000 Speaker 1: been around a juge machine and washed him, we're going 1438 01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,599 Speaker 1: you know that, that's it's impossible. Well, as long as 1439 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,839 Speaker 1: the wheels are spinning, which obviously is in the opposite 1440 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 1: direction that which to which Tom is throwing the ball, 1441 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,479 Speaker 1: it's not going to like envelope the ball. It's not 1442 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,679 Speaker 1: going to suck the ball in. It's going to reject 1443 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,920 Speaker 1: it and repel it outward. Yeah, no matter how hard 1444 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 1: you're throwing it. I mean, it's a great idea. I mean, 1445 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,320 Speaker 1: I love it. It's it's cool and it makes it 1446 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, I mean it's do we have 1447 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: to start calling him slick Tom? Now? Maybe? Maybe? Um, 1448 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 1: he's got it. He's got a great media press. Yeah, 1449 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,000 Speaker 1: he's he's got whoever is in charge of his social 1450 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,720 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to pretend to know all the 1451 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 1: ins and out of the video tricks involved here, but 1452 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,920 Speaker 1: it's great, it's really good. I gave him credit for creativity. 1453 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,880 Speaker 1: But I will say this, I was not for even 1454 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,639 Speaker 1: or not a second I thought it was a cool video, 1455 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,599 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, there's no way even Tom Brady 1456 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 1: can pull this off. And then I was thinking about 1457 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: the workings of the jugs machine and how you have 1458 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,639 Speaker 1: to because the ball sits in a little for lack 1459 01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,840 Speaker 1: of a better term, holster, and the person operating the 1460 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 1: jugs machine has to then push the holster forward into 1461 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,280 Speaker 1: the wheels of the jugs machine to get the ball 1462 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 1: to fire out. So if you're working at the other 1463 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,839 Speaker 1: end of this thing and throwing it into a jugs machine, 1464 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: you have to throw it hard enough not only to 1465 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,919 Speaker 1: overcome the momentum of the wheels that are spinning outward 1466 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 1: at you, but it's strong enough to get it through 1467 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 1: that and then sit back in the holster and then 1468 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 1: reload and come back out at you. I mean, you're 1469 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 1: defying about five laws of physics there. Well, yeah, I 1470 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: mean there's it doesn't work at any on any level 1471 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:39,400 Speaker 1: that does not work. Did you see his other posts? 1472 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:44,919 Speaker 1: I did not. So this was on Friday. He posts 1473 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,680 Speaker 1: how it started versus how It's going, and there's a 1474 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 1: photo of him as a rookie throwing a football. There's 1475 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 1: another photo of him with a shaved head as a 1476 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 1: rookie presumably you know, rookie hazing and whatnot. And then 1477 01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 1: there's a photo of him with all seven rings on 1478 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 1: his fingers. Ye can't deny that one one and made 1479 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 1: me want to throw up. Yeah, that I had. I 1480 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,200 Speaker 1: had an issue with that. I saw they also he's 1481 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:18,439 Speaker 1: got so he's got seven rings and he's got him 1482 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,080 Speaker 1: all on his fingers. And then there's a you know 1483 01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,160 Speaker 1: the you know, Twitter's under you know, the Internet's undefeated. 1484 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 1: So in his empty, in his empty, they've got they've 1485 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:33,800 Speaker 1: got them all labeled like, um, the Falcons choked the 1486 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:38,680 Speaker 1: Patriots defense. Uh, there's empty fingers. Two of them are 1487 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Yeah, the other one is Peyton Manning. And 1488 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 1: there was another one that was called Malcolm Butler, right, 1489 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler game right, So they were all all the 1490 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:52,640 Speaker 1: rings were labor was the empty fingers that yeah, so 1491 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:58,760 Speaker 1: good for him. The Internet remains undefeated. Uh, yeah, it 1492 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,880 Speaker 1: was pretty good, good stuff. But yeah, I gotta tip 1493 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 1: my hat to him. I don't think there's a Um, 1494 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,800 Speaker 1: there is not a pro athlete out there who has 1495 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,879 Speaker 1: gotten my attention in a more pleasant way this offseason 1496 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 1: than Tom Brady has in multiple occasions. Yeah, I know 1497 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 1: you because you've met him, talk to him surely with 1498 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 1: all your CBS interviews and stuff, and I know you've 1499 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 1: said it. And Jim Kelly says the same thing. He's 1500 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 1: a hard guy not to like. Yeah, he's he is, 1501 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 1: which sounds like such a foreign concept for Bills fans 1502 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 1: who have hated him forever. He is who he seems 1503 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:36,040 Speaker 1: to be. He there's nothing, um, there's nothing fake about 1504 01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 1: him at all. And he's genuine, he really is, and 1505 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 1: that's why you know, that's why guys rally around him. 1506 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 1: That's why guys play want to play with him, you know, 1507 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,600 Speaker 1: on his team, and that's why they play hard on 1508 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,839 Speaker 1: his team. Um, he does. And he's a great competitor 1509 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 1: and a great teammate. So you know, he's You don't 1510 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,600 Speaker 1: get seven rings like the ones we're seeing on on 1511 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 1: MSG right now. You don't get seven of those things 1512 01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: without being pretty special. He is his face. Yeah, he's 1513 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,680 Speaker 1: just special, dude, um, and he found his spot in 1514 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:10,840 Speaker 1: the perfect location and has put together the greatest career 1515 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,200 Speaker 1: by any quarterback ever. So what are you gonna do? Yeah, 1516 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,800 Speaker 1: in terms of championships, ye, give him his due and 1517 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:21,600 Speaker 1: be thankful. He's forty three, right, that, which begs the 1518 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 1: next question. How much longer, dude? Like two more years 1519 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,760 Speaker 1: playing for the Bucks? Now? Right? Yep? The Bills will 1520 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 1: see him, as we know, in December, late in the 1521 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 1: season down there in Tampa four twenty five. Kick, I believe. 1522 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,600 Speaker 1: So I get. Yeah, I've got people, buddies who you know, 1523 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 1: I get access to tickets one you know, we do. 1524 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 1: I gotta pay for him it once in a while 1525 01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 1: for a tough game I can get if I have 1526 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,599 Speaker 1: enough lead. Right, Yeah, you can't get tickets for the Tampas. 1527 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,880 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't get a tough one already. Go 1528 01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,760 Speaker 1: on the secondary market and pay through then. Yeah, that's 1529 01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,200 Speaker 1: that's who the guy. The ticket executives here and they're 1530 01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:02,080 Speaker 1: like asking, nna be tough. I okay, you know it's 1531 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,760 Speaker 1: that everybody wants to go to Tampa Bay because it one. 1532 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 1: It's people go to Miami all time. Bills fans love 1533 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,760 Speaker 1: Miami because you know, and Bill's mafia. I'll tell you, 1534 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,720 Speaker 1: it's like going to watch their dad beat up somebody, right. 1535 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 1: So then because it's your daddy game, Yeah, that's the 1536 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,080 Speaker 1: Josh Allen game. And then Tampa Bay is another team 1537 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,600 Speaker 1: you don't get to go that often, you know, so 1538 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,519 Speaker 1: it's nice to see new cities, you know, and it's 1539 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,639 Speaker 1: a destination. Go down to the beach and whatever. It's 1540 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,920 Speaker 1: a month it's going to be and have fun. So 1541 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,280 Speaker 1: that's a big game for the for the away crowd. 1542 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,760 Speaker 1: This year it seems to be. Yeah, I mean, let's 1543 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 1: not forget Nashville is still on the schedule, and that's 1544 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 1: always a popular spot for Bills fans, and Nashville is 1545 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,519 Speaker 1: that hasn't changed. Nashville is my favorite. Other NFL city, 1546 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,719 Speaker 1: the one that they unfortunately missed last year was Las Vegas. 1547 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 1: They could have been one of the first road road 1548 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: team fans to christen that one, and yeah, it would 1549 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,599 Speaker 1: have a heck of a christening, shall we say, would 1550 01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,080 Speaker 1: have been fun. But now they got to wait, what 1551 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:08,000 Speaker 1: is it eight years? Is that right? Well, unless you 1552 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 1: have a cross divisional thing, like if the Bills finish 1553 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 1: in first and the Raiders win the division in the West, 1554 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,480 Speaker 1: and you play them as your non division in conference. 1555 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,320 Speaker 1: You know those two games you have and shure of that, 1556 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 1: and there's a coin flips to where they play here 1557 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: or there. Short of that, you're seeing them on the 1558 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 1: road and yeah, eight years years break time here, final 1559 01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,559 Speaker 1: hour of the show coming up. More of your thoughts 1560 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,160 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet or give us a call eight 1561 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,479 Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five 1562 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,560 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. What will benefit the Bills the 1563 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 1: most going into the twenty twenty one season. It's a 1564 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 1: different lead up to the regular season than it was 1565 01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,120 Speaker 1: last year. What will benefit this team the most as 1566 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,719 Speaker 1: they get ready for a highly anticipated twenty twenty one campaign. 1567 01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 1: More of that next Here on one Bills Live presented 1568 01:28:55,520 --> 01:29:15,679 Speaker 1: by Kalata Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve 1569 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Tasker who has been all over her fields. Kind of unique. 1570 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual roll of thunder for you, 1571 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:27,760 Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strato beere 1572 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:36,840 Speaker 1: of normalcy. Here our number three Monday edition one Bills Live. 1573 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,719 Speaker 1: As we sit on the precipice of training Camp twenty 1574 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:46,880 Speaker 1: twenty one and to the dramatic music danta Um. So 1575 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,680 Speaker 1: we're eagerly anticipating it in case you couldn't tell, as 1576 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,519 Speaker 1: we will have more real football to discuss instead of 1577 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:58,360 Speaker 1: prognosticating and projecting and things of that nature. But we're 1578 01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,920 Speaker 1: not there yet. So with that in mind, we dive 1579 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,000 Speaker 1: into one of the Camp countdown topics that were covered 1580 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot com. The countdown is continuing. Who 1581 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Are the Training Camp Sleepers was the latest edition, so 1582 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,040 Speaker 1: check that out on Buffalo bills dot com. We are 1583 01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:22,040 Speaker 1: going to dive into this one though. Three potential breakout 1584 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,760 Speaker 1: players on offense this season. Certainly you would put Cole 1585 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:30,160 Speaker 1: Beasley in that category from last year. Maybe yeah, you 1586 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 1: probably put Gabe Davis in there, even though he only 1587 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 1: caught thirty five balls. For a rookie fourth round pick 1588 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,880 Speaker 1: who had seven touchdowns and tied for the team lead 1589 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:42,000 Speaker 1: in receiving touchdowns with Stefon Diggs at seven, you'd say, yeah, 1590 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 1: breakout season for him, and I guess even though it 1591 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 1: was widely anticipated he would be the unquestioned number one 1592 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,960 Speaker 1: receiver in this offense, leading the league in receptions and 1593 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,680 Speaker 1: receiving yards. It's a breakout season for Stefan Diggs in 1594 01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:00,479 Speaker 1: terms of being stamped universally as elite. So I guess 1595 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 1: those are different ways of breaking out. But who do 1596 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 1: you think on offense has the ability to break out 1597 01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:13,040 Speaker 1: this season? Are who are your top candidates for something 1598 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:17,439 Speaker 1: like that? Offensively, yes, we are Offensively speaking, I think 1599 01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins has got a chance, But I think the biggest, 1600 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,280 Speaker 1: the guy who's going to get the most opportunity is 1601 01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,320 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. I think he's got a chance to rush 1602 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,639 Speaker 1: for a thousand yards, maybe like eleven hundred yards. Given 1603 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 1: the atmosphere around the offense and what they're going to 1604 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,280 Speaker 1: need to do and what teams are going to do 1605 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,400 Speaker 1: to combat what the Bills were a year ago, I 1606 01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,000 Speaker 1: think he'll get chances to be better. I think the 1607 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,439 Speaker 1: offensive line is going to be a tick better than 1608 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 1: it was a year ago, particularly in the run game. 1609 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,560 Speaker 1: And I think that you know, falls the fact that 1610 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,479 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary may be that guy. I think teams will 1611 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 1: do whatever they can to invite the Bills to run 1612 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 1: a little more than they did last year, and Josh 1613 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,920 Speaker 1: will be an unselfish quarterback. He'll check out of a 1614 01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,479 Speaker 1: pass and give it to Devin Singletary and they'll do it. 1615 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:05,519 Speaker 1: They'll they'll get first downs that way. So I think 1616 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,559 Speaker 1: he has a chance enough. Of course, I've always said 1617 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,320 Speaker 1: I think Dawson Knox is gonna gonna develop this year 1618 01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,600 Speaker 1: as well. I think he's gonna be I think this 1619 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 1: will be the year where people say, oh, Okay, there's 1620 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,040 Speaker 1: the guy we thought we wanted, that we kind of 1621 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 1: get and we've been waiting on. Yeah. I like Singletary 1622 01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:24,519 Speaker 1: a lot for this, just knowing the offseason that he's 1623 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,360 Speaker 1: put in the work on the speed element of his game. 1624 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:34,479 Speaker 1: We had his trainer, his offseason trainer on our show, 1625 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,120 Speaker 1: what's his name, Nick Hicks? I think yes, we had 1626 01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,599 Speaker 1: him on our show just before Mini Camp, I want 1627 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:46,400 Speaker 1: to say, and he basically said, motor has a motor now. 1628 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 1: That was his direct quote. And it's his estimation that Singletary, 1629 01:32:54,600 --> 01:33:00,160 Speaker 1: who never really was taught the mechanics of having the 1630 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,479 Speaker 1: most efficient explosive stride possible as a runner, has been 1631 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:09,800 Speaker 1: taught that now. And in hicks estimation, he believes that 1632 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Singletary has hacked off two tenths from his forty time 1633 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,840 Speaker 1: and he claims that coming out, Singletary was running in 1634 01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,639 Speaker 1: the mid four fives. He had a horrible combine run 1635 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,840 Speaker 1: at four to sixty six. But it needs two tenths 1636 01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,120 Speaker 1: off that he is going to be moving faster than 1637 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:32,840 Speaker 1: anybody's gonna anticipate. It'll be interesting into this season. I 1638 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:37,920 Speaker 1: mean it's a big statement, and to be honest, if 1639 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 1: it's true, we'll all see it. It's not gonna be like, 1640 01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,559 Speaker 1: well like, you won't have to take the coach's word 1641 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,879 Speaker 1: for when you see a guy who's that has improved 1642 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,639 Speaker 1: that much. It's gonna be like Josh Allen from twenty 1643 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,160 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty twenty. You're gonna see that when Devin Singletary 1644 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 1: hits the field with the ball in his hands, and 1645 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 1: if he has indeed improved as much as his trainer 1646 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,080 Speaker 1: has said he as, you will notice it absolutely. So 1647 01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 1: it's out there and perhaps that'll be enough. But I 1648 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,760 Speaker 1: also think there's gonna be a little bit more opportunity 1649 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,639 Speaker 1: this year. When the Bills said, and we've talked about 1650 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: it at gazillion times, they said, they want to run 1651 01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,960 Speaker 1: the ball better, not more, just better. But when you 1652 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,160 Speaker 1: run it better, you're more inclined to run it more. 1653 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,160 Speaker 1: Because you have more faith in the fact that it's 1654 01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,280 Speaker 1: going to come up big for you in certain situations 1655 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,000 Speaker 1: that maybe a year ago you didn't have faith in. 1656 01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,519 Speaker 1: So you will give it a little extra in the 1657 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,679 Speaker 1: running game in certain situations. May it won't become dominant 1658 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,160 Speaker 1: part of your offense. I don't think at any point 1659 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,400 Speaker 1: this season, but there may be a few more situations 1660 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 1: whereas you're more willing to hand it off having faith 1661 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:44,240 Speaker 1: that you're going to be able to pick up the 1662 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,920 Speaker 1: first down or get done what you need to get 1663 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:50,680 Speaker 1: done on that down. So because of that, yeah, I 1664 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,720 Speaker 1: think Devin Singletary has got a chance to break out. 1665 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 1: But I still think for me, the guy that we're 1666 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,000 Speaker 1: going to see do some things that help this team 1667 01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,800 Speaker 1: win on a consistent basis, it's going to be Dawson 1668 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,720 Speaker 1: the tight end. You would you would say that it's 1669 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:08,040 Speaker 1: all lining up favorably for him, chiefly because him Knox 1670 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:13,960 Speaker 1: you mean, yeah, Knocks, because they did not sign some veteran, 1671 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,280 Speaker 1: some proven veteran tight end. They did sign Jacob Hollister, 1672 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:24,599 Speaker 1: but he's not all that much older the Knox Um. 1673 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's played four seasons in the league. This 1674 01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:33,599 Speaker 1: will be Knox's third, so you know, and he hasn't 1675 01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:39,720 Speaker 1: been a major primary target in his career as a 1676 01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,519 Speaker 1: receiving tight end. I mean his best season is the 1677 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,400 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season with Seattle when he had forty one 1678 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:49,680 Speaker 1: catches and three touchdowns. So last year, I mean, his 1679 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 1: numbers were around where Dawson Knoxes were. It's what role 1680 01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:58,000 Speaker 1: does he have? Could he be could he impede potentially 1681 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,519 Speaker 1: the progress of Dawson Knox or do you think, well, 1682 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 1: how do you see that shaken out? Well, depending if 1683 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,519 Speaker 1: the way I would anticipate it without ever having seen 1684 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,519 Speaker 1: any either of them play this season, I would you know, 1685 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,160 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox is going to be the number one guy, 1686 01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,080 Speaker 1: and if they go four wide a lot, they're gonna 1687 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, that means Dawson's in and you know knocks 1688 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,160 Speaker 1: is in and Hollister's out. But I do know this 1689 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 1: last year we saw a ton of tight ends down 1690 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,280 Speaker 1: in the red zone and in short yardage, goal line 1691 01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,640 Speaker 1: kind of situations. So Hollister would be a factor in that, 1692 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:35,599 Speaker 1: much like Tyler Croft was a year ago. So that's 1693 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:39,040 Speaker 1: where I think Hollister will get most of his snaps offensively, 1694 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,479 Speaker 1: Certainly they'll have two tight end packages, three tight end 1695 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,120 Speaker 1: packages where Hollister will be in that mix as well. 1696 01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,559 Speaker 1: But I think and there will be times when Hollister 1697 01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 1: will come in to give Knocks a break for whatever reason, 1698 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 1: or there may be some plays where they like the 1699 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:59,680 Speaker 1: way Hollister runs it better. But I you know, I 1700 01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:01,760 Speaker 1: think the lead dog's gonna be Dawson Knox. I don't 1701 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,439 Speaker 1: think the tight end I don't think the two tight 1702 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:08,479 Speaker 1: end set is going to be vastly more used this 1703 01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,400 Speaker 1: year than it was maybe a given week or two. 1704 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,759 Speaker 1: Where it happens right, it'll matchups dictated. Say, for instance, 1705 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,479 Speaker 1: if if over the course of a thousand plays in 1706 01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:21,760 Speaker 1: the regular season or maybe maybe twelve hundred plays in 1707 01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:30,240 Speaker 1: a seventeen game schedule, the offensive personnel used the two 1708 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,960 Speaker 1: tight end set will probably be used one hundred and 1709 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:37,320 Speaker 1: fifty times, you know, maybe a little less than fifteen percent, 1710 01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, twelve or ten percent, eleven percent, maybe four 1711 01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:44,360 Speaker 1: or whatever. And I think eighty percent of that will 1712 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,439 Speaker 1: be in like two games, three games, you know what 1713 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,519 Speaker 1: I mean. They'll go through two or three games during 1714 01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,080 Speaker 1: a seventeen game schedule where the two tight end set 1715 01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,720 Speaker 1: will be a massive part of their game plan. That 1716 01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:57,160 Speaker 1: kind of situation where Hollister will be is where it'll be. 1717 01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It'll be a matchup kind 1718 01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 1: of thing, and defense matchup because we know, I mean, 1719 01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,320 Speaker 1: Brian Dabel's not going to hesitate if he sees an 1720 01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,680 Speaker 1: advantageous matchup against a given opponent where if they go 1721 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,080 Speaker 1: Hollister and knocks on the field more than just going 1722 01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 1: ten personnel with four wide receivers, he won't hesitate. He'll 1723 01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,639 Speaker 1: do it, whether it's a package, whether it's the full 1724 01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,120 Speaker 1: blown crux of the game plan. In a given week, 1725 01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:23,559 Speaker 1: he'll turn to that page in the book and say, 1726 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:25,120 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing because this is going to 1727 01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:29,120 Speaker 1: work the best against this team. You know, maybe it's 1728 01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,639 Speaker 1: a team that's got really good corners, so you put 1729 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:34,599 Speaker 1: two tight ends on the field to maybe have them 1730 01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,600 Speaker 1: put an extra safety out there or an extra linebacker, 1731 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,240 Speaker 1: and because you like your tight ends against linebackers and 1732 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,200 Speaker 1: safeties better. Whatever it is, whatever matchup you're trying to 1733 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,640 Speaker 1: force them into or get them to switch to. We 1734 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:52,519 Speaker 1: know that Dabel is really good at manipulating defenses and 1735 01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,519 Speaker 1: creating space for his receiving targets. So Josh can find Answers, 1736 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,040 Speaker 1: So there's that. Is there any so Knocks and Singletary, 1737 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,480 Speaker 1: I would, I would agree are probably the prime candidates. 1738 01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:06,560 Speaker 1: Is there a third? Is there a third that we 1739 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,719 Speaker 1: can get to? I know you mentioned Hodgens. I suppose 1740 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,800 Speaker 1: we Hodgens is he's not gonna play that much, even 1741 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:14,280 Speaker 1: if he's you know what I mean. I mean, it's 1742 01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,400 Speaker 1: just the opportunity he's not going to be there for him. 1743 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:22,000 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't know. It's a it's a short 1744 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,599 Speaker 1: list because the roster is so set and all those 1745 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:30,479 Speaker 1: guys are all the guys around that, you know, Beasley, Digs, 1746 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:37,840 Speaker 1: Manuel Sanders, Gabe Davis, Devin Singletary, they're all established. They 1747 01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,559 Speaker 1: all kind of had good years last year. Now, Imanuel 1748 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 1: Sanders is new to the Bills, but he's a guy 1749 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,640 Speaker 1: who's you know, you've got expectations for him. You I 1750 01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 1: would think you've got to at least expect the production 1751 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,559 Speaker 1: per game when he's on the field that you got 1752 01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:55,360 Speaker 1: out of John Brown. So who else is it gonna be? 1753 01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 1: Could it be? I mean, do you account you don't 1754 01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,599 Speaker 1: even factor in linement? Well, I was gonna say, could 1755 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,880 Speaker 1: you factor in the fact that maybe Spencer Brown takes 1756 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 1: right tackle, and what if, like Bucker is the starter 1757 01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 1: at left guard and he starts the whole year there, right, 1758 01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 1: that would be that could be a breakout kind of thing. 1759 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he started a handful of games last year 1760 01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,920 Speaker 1: in place of Cody Ford after the season ending knee injury, 1761 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,839 Speaker 1: So I guess you could maybe list him as a candidate. 1762 01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,120 Speaker 1: But that's going on the assumption that he's not only 1763 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,280 Speaker 1: beating out Cody Ford, but he's beating out a guy 1764 01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,640 Speaker 1: like for as Lamp. He's beating out a guy like 1765 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 1: even the draft choice Jack Anderson. So you know, it's 1766 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,439 Speaker 1: it's not just beating one guy. You're beating a handful 1767 01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,760 Speaker 1: of people on this offensive line this season coming out 1768 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,120 Speaker 1: of camp, you know what I mean. So yeah, I 1769 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,120 Speaker 1: mean I think you can quantify that with a lineman, 1770 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:50,639 Speaker 1: although it's not the traditional sense of breaking out per se, 1771 01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,080 Speaker 1: but why should they be excluded, you know? And I 1772 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,800 Speaker 1: think if you do have an offensive lineman that has 1773 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,800 Speaker 1: a breakout year, I mean you got to have a 1774 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,680 Speaker 1: guy that like goes to the Pro Bowl. I mean, 1775 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,720 Speaker 1: it could be a guy like John Feliciano getting the 1776 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,680 Speaker 1: nod for a Pro Bowl. Berth that kind of thing, 1777 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:10,360 Speaker 1: or Dion Dawkins for that matter, one of you know, 1778 01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,639 Speaker 1: one of those guys, Mitch Morse. But I think that's 1779 01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,080 Speaker 1: what you kind of had to look at because it's 1780 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,960 Speaker 1: hard because it's such a group oriented thing. You'd like 1781 01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,960 Speaker 1: to have, well, you'd love to have all those guys 1782 01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:22,680 Speaker 1: have breakout years and all of a sudden you've got 1783 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,040 Speaker 1: the best offensive line in the National Football League. That's 1784 01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 1: that's how you win championships as well. Let's go back 1785 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,800 Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet where you guys are answering what 1786 01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 1: will benefit the Bills the most going into the twenty 1787 01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,840 Speaker 1: twenty one season. Bills Fanatic three one five says, perceptively, 1788 01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,960 Speaker 1: for that front office, it is a they have continuity, 1789 01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:47,479 Speaker 1: but this roster is no easy way in of any sort. 1790 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,679 Speaker 1: The coaches are absolutely watching this leading up to the season, 1791 01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,640 Speaker 1: So preseason would fit in the category with option A. 1792 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,960 Speaker 1: Either way, we're in a good position. So he sounds 1793 01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:00,200 Speaker 1: a little divided between choice A and choice C, which 1794 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:05,040 Speaker 1: was preseason games as opposed to full training camp. Eli 1795 01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:09,320 Speaker 1: says full offseason program and training camp has its advantages. 1796 01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:11,479 Speaker 1: It will help the rookies get acclimated to the NFL, 1797 01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:15,200 Speaker 1: then the preseason games. It's basically a huge scouting program 1798 01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,160 Speaker 1: to select your best players to put on the field. 1799 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,680 Speaker 1: It gives opportunity to lower picks and undrafted players. You know, 1800 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,360 Speaker 1: there's a point that we were I remember us talking 1801 01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:27,800 Speaker 1: about last year at this time. Without preseason games and 1802 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:32,560 Speaker 1: without padded practices in training camp, it really was a 1803 01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:37,960 Speaker 1: disadvantage for the undrafted rookies, maybe those street free agent 1804 01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,000 Speaker 1: guys that are trying to make an impression and make 1805 01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,439 Speaker 1: a roster They were robbed of the opportunity not only 1806 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,720 Speaker 1: to convince the coaching staff they were practicing in front 1807 01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,360 Speaker 1: of every day in terms of a real football setting. 1808 01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,639 Speaker 1: They weren't even putting game tape out there for thirty 1809 01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,599 Speaker 1: one other teams to look at if they weren't good 1810 01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,040 Speaker 1: enough to make this team. Yeah, they lost that opportunity 1811 01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,559 Speaker 1: without preseason game. We spoke about this little earlier. It's 1812 01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,519 Speaker 1: hard for a young player to showcase his entire skill 1813 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,360 Speaker 1: set when he doesn't ever get to do it in 1814 01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:10,800 Speaker 1: a live setting, particularly for defenders. The physical aspect of 1815 01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:15,960 Speaker 1: playing pro football is something that is a coveted characteristic, 1816 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,920 Speaker 1: and how do you know who has it? If you 1817 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,920 Speaker 1: never get to showcase it. So it was lacking in 1818 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:28,200 Speaker 1: their ability to evaluate the young players in particular, think 1819 01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,479 Speaker 1: about guys trying to make the team on special teams 1820 01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:36,640 Speaker 1: and never taking a live rep, not one that's you 1821 01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,439 Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, that's it's an impossible task for the 1822 01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,400 Speaker 1: coaching staff. And I don't know what you use to 1823 01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:48,360 Speaker 1: evaluate if it's not live game reps. Yeah, because coaches 1824 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,680 Speaker 1: like to go with what they know, and if they 1825 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,280 Speaker 1: don't know where they're not sure that they can trust 1826 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:57,720 Speaker 1: because of lack of exposure to a given player in 1827 01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:00,960 Speaker 1: game type settings where that's where you evaluate and say, 1828 01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,120 Speaker 1: can I trust this guy to do the right thing 1829 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,880 Speaker 1: when something maybe goes off the page? Does he still 1830 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,719 Speaker 1: react properly? Does he revert back to our base rules 1831 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,320 Speaker 1: and still make a good play even if it's not 1832 01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,880 Speaker 1: the best play? Like those are the kinds of things 1833 01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:20,200 Speaker 1: coaches are looking for, and absent padded practices which resemble 1834 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,719 Speaker 1: real football, and certainly absent preseason games, the coaching staff 1835 01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 1: has had a whole lot less to go on. Last year, Yeah, 1836 01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,280 Speaker 1: it was, I mean they came up and did the 1837 01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,000 Speaker 1: best they could to put guys in a in a 1838 01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,120 Speaker 1: position where they could you know, see him athletically, but 1839 01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:43,400 Speaker 1: it totally became an exercise in technique and intellect and 1840 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,360 Speaker 1: being in the right spot. It was never about the 1841 01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:49,200 Speaker 1: physical part of the game. And that's a place where 1842 01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,040 Speaker 1: a lot of football I don't think anybody's ever been 1843 01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:53,800 Speaker 1: before in football, right, I mean, it's you always want 1844 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:55,439 Speaker 1: to see guys mix it up and you always talk 1845 01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,679 Speaker 1: about particularly back in the day, and it's changed somewhat 1846 01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,040 Speaker 1: evolved away from this, but it's like, man, the guy 1847 01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,679 Speaker 1: came into training and he hit everything that will stand around. 1848 01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:05,600 Speaker 1: It was just he was a physical player and he 1849 01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:09,120 Speaker 1: just had to make the team. Nobody could do that 1850 01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:14,200 Speaker 1: last year. So it'll be different and it will make 1851 01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,120 Speaker 1: an enormous difference, but so much so that you know, 1852 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,479 Speaker 1: coaches will be more confident in the players they pick 1853 01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,519 Speaker 1: and they feel like they probably will make fewer mistakes 1854 01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,760 Speaker 1: in their roster if they made in at all. Yeah. 1855 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,559 Speaker 1: I mean, for lack of a better term, the long 1856 01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 1: shots became longer shots last summer because they just didn't 1857 01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:34,000 Speaker 1: have the opportunity. Yeah. Kyle on the tweet sheet says 1858 01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:38,680 Speaker 1: it's preseason games. The lack of preseason left rust on 1859 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,519 Speaker 1: some players for week one, and with the return of Star, 1860 01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,000 Speaker 1: preseason games would be perfect for him to loosen up 1861 01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,439 Speaker 1: and get back into action. Will also allow the coaches 1862 01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:51,840 Speaker 1: to decide returners and the potential of Christian Wade. And 1863 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,880 Speaker 1: there it is. I was waiting for someone to mention 1864 01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:58,200 Speaker 1: Christian Wade because there is an example of a guy 1865 01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:01,559 Speaker 1: who lost a chance to not only make an impression 1866 01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,559 Speaker 1: on this Bill staff how far has he come, how 1867 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,679 Speaker 1: far has he progressed, but also to put another three 1868 01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,840 Speaker 1: games of tape out there in some way, shape or 1869 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,400 Speaker 1: form for a team that might be looking for a 1870 01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,960 Speaker 1: developmental running back. But they but Kyle brings up another 1871 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:19,080 Speaker 1: good point. Steve, a veteran opt out. I mean, I 1872 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,760 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna take three preseason game for someone 1873 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,120 Speaker 1: like Star Latulala in the experience that he has in 1874 01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:26,200 Speaker 1: this league to be ready for the regular season. But 1875 01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,000 Speaker 1: you certainly want him to knock some rust off in 1876 01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,439 Speaker 1: a game setting. You want to see him back in 1877 01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:32,880 Speaker 1: there for sure, and he wants to get in there 1878 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,720 Speaker 1: and do it as well. It doesn't take long at all, 1879 01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:41,360 Speaker 1: But you gotta do it. I mean, you gotta get 1880 01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:45,240 Speaker 1: ready somehow, some way, And there's with as close to 1881 01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:48,200 Speaker 1: the real thing as possible, and there's no way, there's 1882 01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:52,200 Speaker 1: no way to get ready without doing what you think 1883 01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,800 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. I mean, you know what I mean, 1884 01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,880 Speaker 1: there's nobody to do it without going through it. And 1885 01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just Yeah, Christian Wade was probably 1886 01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,719 Speaker 1: one of the guys who was probably the hurt, probably 1887 01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,320 Speaker 1: hurt by the lack of preseason last year than any 1888 01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,800 Speaker 1: of the player on the roster because of all the 1889 01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:14,720 Speaker 1: things he has to learn and has to go through 1890 01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:19,680 Speaker 1: to get ready to be in the NFL. He's been 1891 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,760 Speaker 1: here for two years, but he's only been practicing. He 1892 01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,439 Speaker 1: had two games to showcase what he did, and we 1893 01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,800 Speaker 1: all saw it. I mean, the guy almost scored every 1894 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,519 Speaker 1: time he touched the football and it was pretty exciting 1895 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 1: to see. But how do you evaluate a guy like 1896 01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:42,000 Speaker 1: that without playing preseason games. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard 1897 01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:44,960 Speaker 1: because because even if you like what you see from 1898 01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:49,080 Speaker 1: him in the practice setting, you have to also remind yourself, hey, 1899 01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:50,960 Speaker 1: this guy has seen these guys every day for the 1900 01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,479 Speaker 1: last three weeks. He's seen a lot of these plays 1901 01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,240 Speaker 1: from the defense already. He kind of knows these reads 1902 01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,559 Speaker 1: like the back of his hand because he's seen him 1903 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:02,000 Speaker 1: so much in practice. I want to see him when 1904 01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,799 Speaker 1: he doesn't know what's coming right, how does he adjust? 1905 01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,519 Speaker 1: And you got to ask him and I said this 1906 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,759 Speaker 1: one when they signed Christian Wade as a rugby player. 1907 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,200 Speaker 1: The instinctual part of it, with the ball in your 1908 01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:17,479 Speaker 1: hand will come more naturally than the part where it's 1909 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,479 Speaker 1: a pass playing. He has to step up and block 1910 01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,000 Speaker 1: someone because that's something he's never done before at all ever. 1911 01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,559 Speaker 1: And he even saw when he broke had the ball 1912 01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,799 Speaker 1: in his hands, he broke the long pass play against 1913 01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:33,560 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. He didn't understand how to use his 1914 01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:37,679 Speaker 1: own blockers. He reverted to rugby, which is completely different 1915 01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:41,280 Speaker 1: than American football. Whereas in rugby you can't have anybody 1916 01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,360 Speaker 1: blocking for running interference for you, so you don't you 1917 01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,840 Speaker 1: run away from your own guys and not towards them, 1918 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:48,599 Speaker 1: and in football it's the opposite. You run. He get 1919 01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of them so they can block guys 1920 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,760 Speaker 1: away from you and keep you safe. He didn't know that, 1921 01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,240 Speaker 1: didn't and that's not instinctual to him. So that's stuff 1922 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,800 Speaker 1: that shows up in games that otherwise you wouldn't have 1923 01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:01,560 Speaker 1: got a chance to see there's so many nuances to 1924 01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:05,440 Speaker 1: the game like that, and you know he's got ostensibly 1925 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,640 Speaker 1: had further to go than anybody else and lost an 1926 01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,960 Speaker 1: entire season preseason for it. Yeah, and that was the 1927 01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,479 Speaker 1: Carolina game. That was the Carolina preseason game where if 1928 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:17,439 Speaker 1: he just stayed outside and ran off the rear end 1929 01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,960 Speaker 1: to Duke Williams who was blocking down field on that play, 1930 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:23,040 Speaker 1: he might have had another touchdown run to pair up 1931 01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:25,320 Speaker 1: with the other one that he had in that preseason 1932 01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:28,800 Speaker 1: where everybody went gaga. It was fun. Man. It was 1933 01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,240 Speaker 1: like he was like a cult hero for like two weeks. 1934 01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,840 Speaker 1: It was crazy. So it was kind of cool to 1935 01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,120 Speaker 1: see all of that unfold. And then we all got 1936 01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:40,800 Speaker 1: robbed of seeing how much further he could take his 1937 01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:44,280 Speaker 1: game last summer because says, we know there were no 1938 01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,519 Speaker 1: preseason games. Break time for us here when we come back, 1939 01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,600 Speaker 1: a little NFL True false comes your way, Steve and 1940 01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,920 Speaker 1: I will dive into that when we return here on 1941 01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,759 Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Collot of Health. It's Buffalo 1942 01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:12,280 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Well, welcome back, final half hour of the 1943 01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:14,680 Speaker 1: show here on One Bills Live, and it's time for 1944 01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:19,200 Speaker 1: us to dive into a little NFL true falls, Steve, 1945 01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:23,320 Speaker 1: are you ready? Yes? NFL true false? Brought to you, 1946 01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:27,920 Speaker 1: as always by Yancy's Fancy New York's artists in Cheese, 1947 01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:32,680 Speaker 1: And we begin in the AFC South Urban Meyer, new 1948 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,720 Speaker 1: head coach. As we know, Bills will be playing the 1949 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:40,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars this season. So the question, Steve, NFL true false 1950 01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:45,600 Speaker 1: Number one, Urban Meyer's coaching style will not transition to 1951 01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:50,559 Speaker 1: the NFL, I will say false. I think it probably 1952 01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:54,960 Speaker 1: will transfer to the NFL. And the reason I say 1953 01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:59,320 Speaker 1: that is because Urban is to me, he's a leader 1954 01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:03,760 Speaker 1: that inslates right, that translates. I do think a big 1955 01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,080 Speaker 1: ted Lasso fan, so I think he can do that. 1956 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:08,960 Speaker 1: I think he will have to. I think he will 1957 01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,240 Speaker 1: have to too. I'm taking full credit for your ted 1958 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,680 Speaker 1: Lasso fandom. By the way. I think he will have 1959 01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 1: to tweak his approach to some degree because I think 1960 01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:25,360 Speaker 1: we can agree that professional athletes are not the same 1961 01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,720 Speaker 1: thing as college players. Sure, and I'm not saying that 1962 01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,519 Speaker 1: he's going to coach the Jacksonville Jaguars exactly like he 1963 01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,040 Speaker 1: coached the Ohio State Buckeyes or the Florida Gates or 1964 01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,200 Speaker 1: anybody like that. I'm just saying he's going to be 1965 01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:38,639 Speaker 1: a really good pro coach. I will say that because 1966 01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:41,120 Speaker 1: I think he's a no nonsense guy. Players respond to it. 1967 01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,040 Speaker 1: He's a leader, he knows how to and I've listened 1968 01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,200 Speaker 1: to some of the things he's spoken about on leadership, 1969 01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:51,439 Speaker 1: and I think that translates. So I think, yeah, he's 1970 01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:53,360 Speaker 1: not his team is. He's not going to be the 1971 01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:56,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State Urban Meyer, but he is going to be 1972 01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:02,639 Speaker 1: a coach that that team can win with. I I'm 1973 01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:07,160 Speaker 1: conflicted here because I that's how I kind of interpreted 1974 01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:11,280 Speaker 1: the question here, or the statement that his coaching style 1975 01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,880 Speaker 1: will not transition to the NFL. I'm thinking back to 1976 01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:22,920 Speaker 1: his what's the best word here, his ignorance in hiring 1977 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:27,760 Speaker 1: the coach that had been fired elsewhere due to some 1978 01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:33,360 Speaker 1: off the field incidents inappropriate behavior with players, and he 1979 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,760 Speaker 1: just blindly hired the guy, not thinking there would be 1980 01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 1: any repercussions. And it's just like, well, you know, you're 1981 01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,680 Speaker 1: not the dictator anymore at Ohio State. You're in the 1982 01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:44,320 Speaker 1: NFL and people are watching and there are going to 1983 01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,479 Speaker 1: be issues there. And so I was thinking to myself, 1984 01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, Jeys, is he completely on the ball? 1985 01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,200 Speaker 1: Here with what he has undertaken now that he is 1986 01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:54,439 Speaker 1: an NFL head coach and the Tim Tebow hunt. You know, yeah, 1987 01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:58,080 Speaker 1: that's different. The other thing bothers me more, or at 1988 01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:00,320 Speaker 1: least gave me pause and said, is he really ready 1989 01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:06,360 Speaker 1: for this? I think, knowing how obsessed he is and 1990 01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,240 Speaker 1: what a perfectionist he is, I think the vast majority 1991 01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,040 Speaker 1: of what he will do will be beneficial to the Jaguars. 1992 01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,680 Speaker 1: I think they could win six or seven games this 1993 01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:21,960 Speaker 1: year with him. So I will say false, but with 1994 01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:25,759 Speaker 1: a bit of cautious optimism that you know, his coaching 1995 01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:27,880 Speaker 1: style will translate. I think he will figure it out. 1996 01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:29,840 Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's all gonna If he's 1997 01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:31,519 Speaker 1: gonna figure it all out in year one, well it's 1998 01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,400 Speaker 1: not gonna. Yeah. Coaching coaching the NFL is a different 1999 01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:37,960 Speaker 1: job description than coaching the head coach at Power five 2000 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,599 Speaker 1: conference in college. It's a different job. Football is at 2001 01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,360 Speaker 1: the core of both of them. But you don't recruit 2002 01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:46,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL, you know what I mean? Yea, and 2003 01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:49,960 Speaker 1: your players are not going to be better than everybody 2004 01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:54,800 Speaker 1: else's players top to bottom. You'll have different matchups and stuff. 2005 01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:58,679 Speaker 1: But but that to me is something you know going 2006 01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:03,280 Speaker 1: in and like you said, there's certain things he's got 2007 01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,040 Speaker 1: to learn about. Hey, you know what's important in the 2008 01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 1: NFL and what you know, what are dues and don't 2009 01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:11,000 Speaker 1: I get that. But once he gets through this season, 2010 01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,240 Speaker 1: if he gets a taste for it and likes it, 2011 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:14,439 Speaker 1: I think that's what it's going to be. If he 2012 01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:16,040 Speaker 1: likes it, I think he's going to pursue it and 2013 01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,280 Speaker 1: continue with it. And I think because there's been some 2014 01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:21,360 Speaker 1: college coaches like Nick Saban in particular, and others who 2015 01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:23,320 Speaker 1: have said I'm just not that good at it Lou 2016 01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,120 Speaker 1: Holtz back in the day, there have been other guys 2017 01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,080 Speaker 1: who came from college to the pros who did not 2018 01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:33,600 Speaker 1: like it, and for whatever reason, Nick Saban. So you know, 2019 01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:38,000 Speaker 1: we'll see, yeah, we'll see yeah, well yeah, But I 2020 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:39,720 Speaker 1: think he can coach. I don't think yeah. And I 2021 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,920 Speaker 1: think he'll feel the competitive side this season. I mean it. 2022 01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that the Jags are going to be 2023 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,080 Speaker 1: a gamming at all. And I think there might be 2024 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,120 Speaker 1: some teams that make the mistake of assuming that this 2025 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,440 Speaker 1: season it might get victimized by this team. But we'll 2026 01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:57,920 Speaker 1: see NFL true falls Number two. This is probably the 2027 01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:02,040 Speaker 1: lightning round question. It's an easy answer for me. Cam 2028 01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,880 Speaker 1: Newton is guaranteed to play better in twenty twenty one 2029 01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,320 Speaker 1: guarantees a big word. But yeah, I'll say, yeah, I 2030 01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:14,120 Speaker 1: expect it. Yeah, Okay, I expect it. I I don't 2031 01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,720 Speaker 1: know how they go back to him without knowing that 2032 01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:22,800 Speaker 1: there's more under the hood, and certainly the bar is 2033 01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:28,800 Speaker 1: not that high. The biggest question mark for me and 2034 01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:33,560 Speaker 1: Cam Newton is how's he going to be better physically 2035 01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,600 Speaker 1: at this age with another year of wear and tear 2036 01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,280 Speaker 1: on him? You know what I mean, He's got to 2037 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,760 Speaker 1: throw it better. Otherwise he's gonna, you know, by week 2038 01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,080 Speaker 1: four or five, if he's a starting quarterback, he's gonna 2039 01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:46,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be Man, I'm getting beat up, you know. 2040 01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:54,240 Speaker 1: I Um, I know, I ruthlessly beat on this guy 2041 01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:58,680 Speaker 1: after what we saw from him last year. And like 2042 01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:02,600 Speaker 1: I he was a fantastic talent in his prime. I 2043 01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 1: just think those days are long gone. And when you 2044 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:11,600 Speaker 1: throw guaranteed to play better in twenty twenty one, I 2045 01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:15,680 Speaker 1: will guarantee you who knows the offensive system better. I 2046 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:21,640 Speaker 1: will guarantee you that he can know going into a 2047 01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,800 Speaker 1: play what he's supposed to do. I just am not 2048 01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:29,840 Speaker 1: convinced that his execution is going to be demonstrably better 2049 01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:33,600 Speaker 1: than it was last season, a year later, a year older, 2050 01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:38,480 Speaker 1: especially with the first round quarterback pushing him, whose skill 2051 01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,600 Speaker 1: set is in stark contrast to his own, and who 2052 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:45,880 Speaker 1: I think blends better with what Josh McDaniels, the offensive coordinator, 2053 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:47,640 Speaker 1: wants to do in New England. It would not shock 2054 01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,280 Speaker 1: me if he doesn't even get the opportunity to play 2055 01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:54,680 Speaker 1: better in twenty twenty one. So I will say I 2056 01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,120 Speaker 1: will say false, because I don't know if he's even 2057 01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:00,480 Speaker 1: going to get that chance. I think with the two 2058 01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:02,680 Speaker 1: tight ends they signed in free agency, and the wide 2059 01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:05,400 Speaker 1: receivers and the and the what they can do with 2060 01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:07,720 Speaker 1: two guys at the end of the line scrimmage outside 2061 01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:11,920 Speaker 1: both tackles, I think the Patriots feel like they could 2062 01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:17,720 Speaker 1: start small with mac Jones offensively and grow at an 2063 01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,200 Speaker 1: accelerated pace to protect him and give him more things 2064 01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:23,560 Speaker 1: to do, and you know, week by week, give him 2065 01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,360 Speaker 1: more and more to handle, and by the end of 2066 01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:28,440 Speaker 1: the season being a spot, particularly with a seventeen game schedule, 2067 01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,840 Speaker 1: where you got more time just that much, you know, 2068 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,960 Speaker 1: much more time to get it done. I just think 2069 01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Cam Newton doesn't see the 2070 01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:41,640 Speaker 1: field either. As a starter. I think, you know what 2071 01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, just go with mac Jones right off the 2072 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:47,480 Speaker 1: get if they feel like they can start him slow enough. 2073 01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:50,840 Speaker 1: And then you know what I and I it's it's 2074 01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:57,120 Speaker 1: a Patriots. You know, Cam Newton's a short yardage quarterback. Yeah, 2075 01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,600 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. They'll do that. I mean, 2076 01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,400 Speaker 1: they'll air what he thinks. He'll jump on board with it. 2077 01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:06,160 Speaker 1: Belichick will sell it to him. Mac Jones will run 2078 01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:07,920 Speaker 1: the offense when he's under center, and then when they 2079 01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:09,880 Speaker 1: get into a third and one or fourth and one 2080 01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,800 Speaker 1: or fourth and two, Cam Newton comes on runs a 2081 01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:19,680 Speaker 1: package because that guy is a dynamite short yardage quarterback. Okay, 2082 01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean I could see it. But if that's the case, 2083 01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:24,520 Speaker 1: he ain't playing better than he did last year. No, No, 2084 01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:28,080 Speaker 1: if that's what he's reduced to, certainly not right. NFL 2085 01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:35,160 Speaker 1: true false Number three, name image and likeless lawlessness. Name 2086 01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:39,440 Speaker 1: image and likeness laws will sway the NFL draft early 2087 01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,720 Speaker 1: entry decisions. We had a conversation about these last week 2088 01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,920 Speaker 1: with one of our guests, Think Matt Miller. I think 2089 01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:49,440 Speaker 1: it's a hidden facet of the nil legislation in the 2090 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:53,120 Speaker 1: NCAA that gives college athletes a chance to make money 2091 01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:55,920 Speaker 1: on their name, image, and likeness at the collegiate level, 2092 01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:59,160 Speaker 1: where some of them, and I mean a large handful 2093 01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,440 Speaker 1: of them will make less money turning pro than they 2094 01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:05,520 Speaker 1: are in college. In certain programs, there are some that 2095 01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,520 Speaker 1: are making six figures. There are some that are almost 2096 01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:13,240 Speaker 1: making seven yeah, and haven't played a snap Alabama quarterback. 2097 01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,080 Speaker 1: So if you're doing that, I mean, why would you 2098 01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:21,680 Speaker 1: come out early? Yeah? You know what, go in bolster 2099 01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,280 Speaker 1: your stock in the NFL while still making enough to 2100 01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:26,720 Speaker 1: help your family, which is the big draw to some 2101 01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:28,680 Speaker 1: players coming out. They want to help their family as 2102 01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:34,280 Speaker 1: quickly as possible. Why, you know, do it? Stay in school? 2103 01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:37,720 Speaker 1: You got that. It's guaranteed. There's nobody on that roster 2104 01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:41,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna beat you out right. I'm most interested in 2105 01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,320 Speaker 1: how this is going to impact the twenty twenty two 2106 01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,480 Speaker 1: draft class, because if you remember, the twenty twenty one 2107 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:54,360 Speaker 1: draft class was uncharacteristically small in terms of the total 2108 01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:56,880 Speaker 1: pool of draftable players. It was like six hundred and 2109 01:59:56,960 --> 02:00:01,880 Speaker 1: fifty and it's usually closer to I want to say 2110 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:06,240 Speaker 1: it was thirteen or fourteen hundred. It's closer to that 2111 02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:10,280 Speaker 1: number on most years. Where does that number go? In 2112 02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two? A reason a lot of the kids 2113 02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:15,160 Speaker 1: came back was because the NCAA granted a lot of 2114 02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:18,280 Speaker 1: players an extra year of eligibility after their seasons were canceled, 2115 02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,280 Speaker 1: either at the FCS level or depending on what conference 2116 02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,240 Speaker 1: you played in, so they weren't losing a year of 2117 02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:25,400 Speaker 1: eligibility because they didn't play. So you can come back 2118 02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:28,480 Speaker 1: for another year, you know, exhaust your eligibility and then 2119 02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:32,440 Speaker 1: enter the draft. And a lot of players did that. Well, 2120 02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:34,920 Speaker 1: I wonder how much this shifts it the other way 2121 02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:37,360 Speaker 1: there's not and shrinks the pool. I don't know how 2122 02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:41,280 Speaker 1: many juniors usually come out, but the fourteen hundred number 2123 02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,600 Speaker 1: you're talking about, it is graduating seniors from Power five 2124 02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,120 Speaker 1: conference schools and other schools who are you know, senior 2125 02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Bowl guys and stuff. Because of the upwards of one 2126 02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:53,480 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty junior eligibles. Right, so that's like ten 2127 02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:58,480 Speaker 1: percent of the class that's juniors. Yeah, that ten percent 2128 02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:02,360 Speaker 1: will probably shrink. Yeah, the question is to what degree? 2129 02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:04,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm curious about it'll be. And if you're 2130 02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,160 Speaker 1: a good enough player to be a first or a 2131 02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:08,440 Speaker 1: second round draft joys, when you're a junior, you're not 2132 02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:12,600 Speaker 1: waiting an extra year now necessarily unless you're making a 2133 02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:15,440 Speaker 1: good buck breakup bucks. Yeah, unless you're making six figures 2134 02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:18,480 Speaker 1: or whatever. And because you know too, that's six figures 2135 02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:21,880 Speaker 1: for a guy of that caliber at that level is 2136 02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:25,120 Speaker 1: guaranteed because he's nobody's beating him out. Nobody's gonna come 2137 02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:27,240 Speaker 1: in and take Trevor Lawrence's job. Nobody's gonna come in 2138 02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:31,680 Speaker 1: and take Naji Harris or Travis Atn's job. You know there, 2139 02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:34,000 Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen. It'd be like thinking back and 2140 02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:36,920 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna take Sam Doarnold's job at USC's. It's just 2141 02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:40,760 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And schools like like Alabama and USC 2142 02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:44,600 Speaker 1: and those there, that's where these guys are getting ahead 2143 02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:49,400 Speaker 1: financially doing that. So that guaranteed money on a chance 2144 02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,080 Speaker 1: that you might get drafted in the NFL in the 2145 02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:54,320 Speaker 1: second round, third round. It it becomes a math problem, right, 2146 02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,000 Speaker 1: Crunch the numbers. Crunch the numbers, say, you know what, 2147 02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,040 Speaker 1: it's guarantee. I'm gonna stay right here for another year 2148 02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:00,480 Speaker 1: and see if I can get that number. When I 2149 02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:02,560 Speaker 1: do go to the NFL, I'm gonna play well and 2150 02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:05,600 Speaker 1: see if I can inflate my draft value. Yeah. So 2151 02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,960 Speaker 1: with respect to nil laws, I will say true. It 2152 02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:12,560 Speaker 1: will sway NFL draft early entry decisions. Are you true 2153 02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:16,680 Speaker 1: on that? Your double true? That is NFL true false? 2154 02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's artists and cheese. 2155 02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,640 Speaker 1: Steve and I back in a sect to close things 2156 02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:39,560 Speaker 1: up here on a Monday on One Bill's Live. What 2157 02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,400 Speaker 1: have we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official 2158 02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:47,120 Speaker 1: construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. We have 2159 02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:52,880 Speaker 1: learned from reports that Aaron Rodgers, with his back channel communicating, 2160 02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:57,040 Speaker 1: is indicated he will intend to suit up for the 2161 02:02:57,120 --> 02:03:02,360 Speaker 1: Packers this season for all intents and purposes. At least, 2162 02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:06,280 Speaker 1: that's what we're being led to believe. As Ian Rampaport 2163 02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:08,680 Speaker 1: and some others have said, Aaron Rodgers is indicated to 2164 02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:10,720 Speaker 1: people close to him that he does plan to play 2165 02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:14,560 Speaker 1: for Green Bay this season. That is the expectation. Many 2166 02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:17,800 Speaker 1: factors at play, but with J M. Bryan gutencous saying 2167 02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:19,680 Speaker 1: he is hopeful for a positive outcome. There is a 2168 02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:25,320 Speaker 1: glimmer of optimism. So where does it go from here? 2169 02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:27,840 Speaker 1: We shall see. But quarterbacks kind of ruled the roost 2170 02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:30,520 Speaker 1: all offseason with all the movement we saw, and now 2171 02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:32,600 Speaker 1: we're heading into training camp and it looks like it's 2172 02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:34,880 Speaker 1: going to still be the case with him and the 2173 02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson situation. Just yeah, I'm loading out there. I 2174 02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:40,720 Speaker 1: can't wait to get to training camp in the season 2175 02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:42,440 Speaker 1: because I want to see all the stuff that happened 2176 02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:46,440 Speaker 1: that was more normal. The first offseason transaction we heard 2177 02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:49,880 Speaker 1: about was Matthew Stafford to the La Rams and Jared 2178 02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Golf to Detroit, and that's completely seems like a lifetime 2179 02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:56,760 Speaker 1: ago that that happened. I want to see Matt Stafford 2180 02:03:56,800 --> 02:04:00,400 Speaker 1: play for the Rams. I think that's a base deal 2181 02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:03,600 Speaker 1: that has gotten forgotten in all of this he said, 2182 02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:06,160 Speaker 1: she said stuff, and all the debate that's been going 2183 02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,040 Speaker 1: on about how this training camp is gonna look and 2184 02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:10,120 Speaker 1: who's gonna be good in the word, if Aaron Rodgers're 2185 02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:14,960 Speaker 1: gonna play, Deshaun Watson's problems and all the other stuff. Yeah, 2186 02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:18,400 Speaker 1: it was a it's been an offense an offseason dominated 2187 02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:23,800 Speaker 1: by quarterback movement and quarterback strife. But when it doesn't 2188 02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:25,800 Speaker 1: look like that's going away, well, when that yeah, but 2189 02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:27,520 Speaker 1: when they kick it off, everybody else is going to 2190 02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:29,320 Speaker 1: have a say in how those guys are doing, too, true, 2191 02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:31,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's gonna be interesting to see 2192 02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:33,880 Speaker 1: what happens with the Pack, not only going down the 2193 02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:37,200 Speaker 1: road but right now. Yeah. We also learned what the 2194 02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:42,720 Speaker 1: likely asking price is from the Texans for Deshaun Watson, 2195 02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:45,760 Speaker 1: although I don't think anybody believes the trade is imminent. Now, 2196 02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:48,480 Speaker 1: why would the Texans trade a player who's off the 2197 02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:52,280 Speaker 1: field future is uncertain at best. You'd be dealing from 2198 02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:56,960 Speaker 1: a position to weakness, not strength. But five high draft 2199 02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:02,320 Speaker 1: choices and two starting players. That's what Chris Mortenson reported 2200 02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the Texans are looking for after talking to a couple 2201 02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:07,360 Speaker 1: of executives around the league. Ben Voland from the Boston 2202 02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:10,720 Speaker 1: Globe on the show Tomorrow, we are radio only tomorrow, 2203 02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:13,480 Speaker 1: So if you watch us on MSG jump on the 2204 02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Bills app, you'll be able to listen to us live 2205 02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:19,160 Speaker 1: there even if you are outside the listening area. Steve 2206 02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:21,400 Speaker 1: and I'll be here. We'll see you tomorrow on Veteran 2207 02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Report Day for the Bills. We'll see it in here 2208 02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:24,560 Speaker 1: on one Bills Live