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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hello, My Love's welcome to this very intuitive
Speaker 1: episode of Holy Human with a very intuitive guest. Brima
Speaker 1: Lanson is a spiritual facilitator with a surprisingly practical approach
Speaker 1: to tapping into the transformative power of our true potential,
Speaker 1: which is by tuning into our intuition. I think you'll
Speaker 1: find her way of viewing our spirituality and purpose really unique,
Speaker 1: refreshing and insightful. And she's here today to share her
Speaker 1: wisdom with us all on Holy Human. Yeah, yeah, bring,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, thank you for coming on here.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to you because I've been
Speaker 1: I've been dabbling in your work and your your offerings
Speaker 1: for a while now. And yeah, it's just all of
Speaker 1: your offerings seems so loving. There's just so much beautiful
Speaker 1: energy behind them. Thank you. What a magnificent honor. And
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm already gonna I'm just like, heads up,
Speaker 1: this bee's gonna cry. Well, join the club, because it
Speaker 1: happens all the time. I don't I just cried before
Speaker 1: we got on here. I have a thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. I usually go through some sort
Speaker 1: of grief process before I get on a podcast. It's
Speaker 1: really interesting for me, and it's just been I usually
Speaker 1: went through. I used to go through a fear process
Speaker 1: where I was just terrified, and now I've switched from
Speaker 1: fear to grief. Cry for I mean, do you think
Speaker 1: it's grief or do you because I mean, I We've
Speaker 1: talked very briefly about this and I experienced it all
Speaker 1: the time where I feel like there is a higher
Speaker 1: love coming through in which my body short circuits, right,
Speaker 1: and it's me processing that greater love, And it's part
Speaker 1: of being the witness, right, And so I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not like I'm just asking. I mean maybe maybe you've
Speaker 1: already identified it and you know that it's interesting. Well no,
Speaker 1: so wow, that's really interesting for me because that happens
Speaker 1: to me when I sing. There's a lot of emotion
Speaker 1: that comes through, and I find myself crying often and
Speaker 1: I try to stay out a judgment for that because
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like, oh, this is my unprocessed emotional
Speaker 1: ship getting in the way of my job. And at
Speaker 1: the same time, I know that is also how tapped
Speaker 1: in and tuned and I am to emotion, And it's
Speaker 1: just that openness of creativity that flows through is it
Speaker 1: brings on, it brings on intense feelings and they just
Speaker 1: I feel like that's part of what I'm here to share,
Speaker 1: is that authenticity and to show people that it's okay,
Speaker 1: it's okay to be in these feelings even when you're
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and maybe especially I mean, I I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we're obviously so conditioned to stuff it like
Speaker 1: the barrels of yourself for later and for like when later. Um,
Speaker 1: but but this last couple of years, whatever shift I
Speaker 1: am experiencing whenever I teach larger classes, especially if they're
Speaker 1: you know, looking at me and I'm really in that moment,
Speaker 1: I will ball and like, if you know you've come
Speaker 1: to a couple of my classes, you know she's gonna cry.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's from love. I feel. The other
Speaker 1: thing that I consider sometimes, which may apply to this
Speaker 1: as well, is I'm feeling the magnitude of maybe what
Speaker 1: people in class will experience, but it's not conscious, right, like,
Speaker 1: and because time really is an illusion and we're rooting
Speaker 1: in the intention of whatever it is to make people
Speaker 1: feel right, but not me right. I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: the wizard that doesn't feel anything right. So I really,
Speaker 1: you know, learned to surrender to it because it just
Speaker 1: wasn't an option, and it really gave permission. Other people
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, I you know, gave them permission to
Speaker 1: feel or cry or and then I make fun of
Speaker 1: myself all the time, but then I'll cry on like
Speaker 1: a big stupid baby. Like but it is, and it's
Speaker 1: such an emotional release for people. I know when I sing,
Speaker 1: when people are at my concerts, I am creating that
Speaker 1: space for people to feel the things that they don't
Speaker 1: normally feel. And music does that so well. Breath when
Speaker 1: you're facilitating breath work, breath does that. And so it's
Speaker 1: you really are creating that space. And like you're saying,
Speaker 1: if you're holding that, it will come through you. You're like,
Speaker 1: this is how it's done. Let her up. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: a new ritual. Maybe maybe that's what's happening. I should
Speaker 1: just roll with it. Well, now that I've talked about that,
Speaker 1: let's wind up, backup, press second. How do how do
Speaker 1: you explain what you do to people when they meet you,
Speaker 1: Because sometimes it depends like I'll kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: gauge it, but I also don't dance around it because
Speaker 1: I've just over the years, I've just I've done too
Speaker 1: much dancing. Yeah, and now I'm just rooted in it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you could or leave it. And also
Speaker 1: I've created a vibrational field where I don't encounter that
Speaker 1: many people to where it's uncomfortable or they don't understand
Speaker 1: or they don't believe or whatever it is, it's really interesting.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I did readings for years, and even
Speaker 1: when I did readings, I was like, you can see me, Frice,
Speaker 1: And I was just like, because I wanted them to,
Speaker 1: you know, and then call me when you have another
Speaker 1: great shift in your life. But I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be anybody to be dependent on me. If I can
Speaker 1: do this, you can do this. And so I think
Speaker 1: a larger part of my passion or maybe all of
Speaker 1: it is supporting others and empowering others and accessing our
Speaker 1: potential or access to a field that we all have
Speaker 1: access to, just most of us have forgotten. And so
Speaker 1: if I were to really basic it up, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a meditation teacher or um but usually you know
Speaker 1: the nails, Yeah, I just say, well, I help people
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, move past their blocks and and
Speaker 1: reconnect with their inherent intuition and yeah, the self heal,
Speaker 1: which we all have the capability of. Um, you find
Speaker 1: do you find that when people? Do you find when
Speaker 1: you say I'm a psychic medium or do you use
Speaker 1: those words? Are people super triggered by that? Not anymore?
Speaker 1: I think that's when I first started. I had to
Speaker 1: fight for it because my beliefs were that right, Um,
Speaker 1: And it was great because then it also it helped
Speaker 1: me to stand more firm and not in a place
Speaker 1: of any type of fighting against But if I'm holding it,
Speaker 1: you don't really question it, right, If I'm wavering, I
Speaker 1: think I've I've moved moved through that to where I
Speaker 1: just like literally don't encounter it anymore, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: just it's a trip. I love that. I love that
Speaker 1: you're talking about holding holding our beliefs around what we
Speaker 1: what we believe we are, Like, how do we when
Speaker 1: we when we wanted to were wanting to move into
Speaker 1: a space of true belief of the thing that we wanted,
Speaker 1: the person that we are, but we feel like we're
Speaker 1: not quite there yet, how do we start to really
Speaker 1: move in that direction of of of belief around the
Speaker 1: thing that we're not quite but really no we are.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Give me an example. Is it
Speaker 1: that I can embody? Yes, that I can embody? I mean, well,
Speaker 1: for me, it's been interesting because I've been singing my
Speaker 1: whole life and so I I used to have this
Speaker 1: really powerful belief and I still do, of course, but
Speaker 1: there's this something that shifted for me over the years,
Speaker 1: this powerful belief that I could do anything. And I
Speaker 1: had no question in my mind about what I can
Speaker 1: do with my voice. And you know, going through life
Speaker 1: UM and it's ups and downs, it got into my
Speaker 1: mind that I was somehow less than and it that
Speaker 1: was the one place in my life that the less
Speaker 1: than like didn't creep in. UM was was my music,
Speaker 1: and somehow along the way with all the ship I
Speaker 1: went through publicly, it did. And so it's really been interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, as that ego piece of me UM, which
Speaker 1: I love and it serves its purpose, and I still
Speaker 1: have to have it in order to do my job.
Speaker 1: As that's kind of dissolved into UM and a deeper
Speaker 1: sense of humanity has come into play. I'm finding myself
Speaker 1: really towing the line between the two of those. And
Speaker 1: when we need to step into our power and this
Speaker 1: belief of I can do anything, I can be anything,
Speaker 1: I can have anything. How do we step into that
Speaker 1: more fully when we there's a piece of us that's
Speaker 1: and I'm not so sure about that, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that to me, the humanity of that piece it serves
Speaker 1: so beautifully too, So we don't want to demonize that
Speaker 1: other side of it. Yeah, tot, what I believe to
Speaker 1: be true is that So if we're talking about that
Speaker 1: resistance or doubt, right, usually it's in direct correlation from
Speaker 1: which even a lot of times we're not conscious of it,
Speaker 1: of where we're allowing the ego to be the motivation.
Speaker 1: And again a lot of times it's not on the surface.
Speaker 1: M And the same could be said as for our
Speaker 1: suffering right or where we perceive to be lack in
Speaker 1: our lives. Those are the areas in which the ego
Speaker 1: is driving a little bit more. And as you've said, perfectly,
Speaker 1: it's a vehicle for our expansion and we need it
Speaker 1: and it's great, and let's celebrate the lee also love
Speaker 1: that it's is it leally, let's love it. It's it's
Speaker 1: land brake, you know, just still celebrate that essence of
Speaker 1: the self and not yeah, and not try to totally
Speaker 1: wipe it out because it is fun, it is glorious,
Speaker 1: and it's allowed you to create a lot of things.
Speaker 1: So you know, what I always like to take things
Speaker 1: from is in a dualistic way. Is that perspective of
Speaker 1: the ego and soul, and that can be love and fear,
Speaker 1: and that can be you know, you can use a
Speaker 1: lot of different words. You know. True, it's an illusion.
Speaker 1: And so when we're looking at what we perceive an
Speaker 1: issue and or something that we just want to shift.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna super quickly break down a process that's
Speaker 1: that I feel that you could have kind of apply
Speaker 1: to everything to get clarity and to embody because change
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, right. We can know it. We can now
Speaker 1: forgiveness is an act of self love. We can know
Speaker 1: these things, but until we actually are able to root
Speaker 1: in it, we don't. We can't transcend, right. We have
Speaker 1: to pull forth that that higher knowing into us. So
Speaker 1: when you're looking at the thing, the belief, the doubt,
Speaker 1: the first step is just noticing that it's an invitation.
Speaker 1: And as you said, again, we don't want to look
Speaker 1: at it as a problem and it's something that we
Speaker 1: have to fix. And I'm so broken because because that's
Speaker 1: what happens when we try to fix it. From the ego,
Speaker 1: you're just in a wrestling match with the same sonsciousness
Speaker 1: that I create. We're like we we love love totally.
Speaker 1: But so realizing that okay, this is an invitation and
Speaker 1: and that's essentially the choice, right, that is our power
Speaker 1: of our will, which is our greatest power. We can
Speaker 1: will the divine force that is within us, or we
Speaker 1: can you know, continue to learn through the pattern and
Speaker 1: will the ego, which again not bad, take as long
Speaker 1: as we want, but noticing it as and this is
Speaker 1: an invitation somehow. And then as soon as you begin
Speaker 1: to switch that and change you know that inner dialogue
Speaker 1: of whatever the story has been or life is happening
Speaker 1: to me, you shift into empowerment. Essentially the transcendence can begin.
Speaker 1: And so realizing it's an invitation to expand even more?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine even more into your brilliance? Um, And
Speaker 1: then the second step is the inquiry. So the other
Speaker 1: thing about the ego that I have found most helpful,
Speaker 1: and what I always like to offer, is that we
Speaker 1: don't hold on to limitation for no reason. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a payoff. Right, Everything in the frigan universe serves
Speaker 1: a purpose, and so we just need to understand the
Speaker 1: deeper purpose that it's serving, and we want to get
Speaker 1: on board with the higher purpose. So the ego, because
Speaker 1: it believes itself to be separate. It's the part that
Speaker 1: you know, deviates from our wholeness and allows us to
Speaker 1: co create. And that's great. We love it, we love
Speaker 1: it's great, but it also is stuck in the constructs
Speaker 1: of a linear world and therefore conditional world. So it's
Speaker 1: obsessed with conditions. Right, I need that thing in order
Speaker 1: to feel this. If I had that, then I'd be sued.
Speaker 1: If they did this, then I know I love me.
Speaker 1: So I like to call it to help switch. It
Speaker 1: is the negotiator, and so just gently being aware of
Speaker 1: not only how is my ego at play, not because
Speaker 1: we tend to think that our like bondom beliefs are
Speaker 1: that we're not worthy, but it's more so what the
Speaker 1: ego is doing to negotiate its worth and or it's
Speaker 1: conditional worth, or it's usually around love or safety, like
Speaker 1: we think we have all these issues around money or
Speaker 1: our body or our love or whatever. But it really
Speaker 1: is quite simple and all those things are just their manifestations,
Speaker 1: you know of kind of like the more root core beliefs.
Speaker 1: So the roots, so the root core belief because I
Speaker 1: have kind of believed and I think I still do
Speaker 1: that my core beliefs are around here, I hear by affirmed, Well, yes,
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of people's core beliefs are
Speaker 1: does base around like I'm not good enough? So you're
Speaker 1: saying and love and safety? What are we doing? So
Speaker 1: I'm not good enough? So what do I have to
Speaker 1: do to get the good enough? And that that's the
Speaker 1: world of the ego. It's that love comes from outside
Speaker 1: of us, safety comes from outside of us, everything comes
Speaker 1: from outside of us. And therefore that's where limitations come from.
Speaker 1: And so just gently considering because we know we are
Speaker 1: not the ego. We know it. I don't care where
Speaker 1: you are and your spiritual bad there is a place
Speaker 1: inside of you. I like mumbles some names. I'm like no,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know it well, but so so
Speaker 1: not needing to make yourself wrong, but just taking that
Speaker 1: gentle gaze of how is my ego um in negotiation?
Speaker 1: So what does it believe that it has to do
Speaker 1: in order to feel you know, um safe in the
Speaker 1: world or whatever it is. And usually it's like around
Speaker 1: approval or And so if you just look at the condition,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I don't want to like, I
Speaker 1: don't mean to be like. And now we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about your childhood, that sounds good. But even if if
Speaker 1: you weren't even just to like give it a really
Speaker 1: general like take a stab at it, like I have
Speaker 1: to blank in order to blank, so or the ego
Speaker 1: I have to perform in order to be loved. Well,
Speaker 1: she's I got it, baby luck. And it's been a
Speaker 1: beautiful belief, like it's look what it's I mean, not
Speaker 1: that you've created everything from that, but also yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been a lot of it. And but that's what's so
Speaker 1: beautiful and I think it's so interesting is there is
Speaker 1: a gift in the wounding, Like there there you can
Speaker 1: take that wounding and create beautiful things from it until
Speaker 1: you can't, like, well, and it's not sustainable exactly because
Speaker 1: when are you ever going to get it right? Yeah? No, no,
Speaker 1: one can never make us feel love, thank God. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you receive it, you what you think is love.
Speaker 1: You receive the for me, you know, using my own experience,
Speaker 1: I received all the success in adoration, and then it's
Speaker 1: like turns on you and then it's like, well, if
Speaker 1: it's not coming for me up to me from out there,
Speaker 1: then then I feel empty and that is the invitation
Speaker 1: then to to create it from somewhere else. And then yes,
Speaker 1: so you're saying, which I love this because I I'm
Speaker 1: still in the understanding of creating it from the inside,
Speaker 1: Like I still feel like, yeah, I mean that's true.
Speaker 1: I still feel like though the you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about being connected to something bigger, do you still feel
Speaker 1: like that's on Like when I think of that, I
Speaker 1: still feel like that's on the outside of me. And
Speaker 1: it's so interesting that you were doing that with your
Speaker 1: hand was something bigger people can't people at see when
Speaker 1: I was going on the right side of my head,
Speaker 1: it was like all my hand making a circle all
Speaker 1: up in the air, and yeah, it does. It's very
Speaker 1: that's a very childlike, I think thing for us to think,
Speaker 1: especially when we've been raised in religion and all the
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, that it's still still that love is
Speaker 1: on the outside of us, right, Yeah, even God all
Speaker 1: of it everything. Yeah, but so then that third step
Speaker 1: is the shift and then you want to just try
Speaker 1: on what would be the perspective of my soul or
Speaker 1: my greater knowing or I was called God g O
Speaker 1: D because I feel like it's like don't say the
Speaker 1: D word or like there's just like people don't like it.
Speaker 1: It's not trending. But like it doesn't mean we have
Speaker 1: to be there in that moment. But when we when
Speaker 1: we consider the soul and God, like all of these
Speaker 1: things are for us to explore. I'm not like, this
Speaker 1: is what your soul is and this is what God is.
Speaker 1: It's like it's really a beautiful um like dance and
Speaker 1: exercise to just look at you're So if we're looking
Speaker 1: at the soul, it's like who you have always been,
Speaker 1: the essence that has been you throughout even just this
Speaker 1: body in time, it is that self and the essence
Speaker 1: that you feel maybe after breathwork or you could even
Speaker 1: just ask if I had a soul, when do I
Speaker 1: feel the essence of my soul? A lot of times
Speaker 1: it's going to be in nature, in creativity, when it
Speaker 1: is not attached outcome, when you are in that flow
Speaker 1: of creation and really feeling into defining your soul for
Speaker 1: yourself and but essentially for all of us. It is
Speaker 1: our unconditional essence. It is a part of us that
Speaker 1: has not been conditioned and therefore is you know, the
Speaker 1: ethereal and is all loving and is all knowing. Just
Speaker 1: taking like a soft consideration is how what would my
Speaker 1: soul know to be true within that? So we start
Speaker 1: to just shift and just ask. And another way that
Speaker 1: I like, beyond the spiritual stuff, you can just say,
Speaker 1: which my guides said to me once where I was,
Speaker 1: they're always dragging like dragged me. It's like always the
Speaker 1: best loving way. But they said, what is true on
Speaker 1: your perceptions of lack? Or what is true when you
Speaker 1: take your identity out? They said, They've told me that before.
Speaker 1: They said, take yourself out of the equation? And I said,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? So when we're looking at that
Speaker 1: piece around I have to perform to be loved or
Speaker 1: feel loved? What what would your soul or God say
Speaker 1: or see about that? What is the higher truth? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the first thing that comes to me is
Speaker 1: that's what I am. I am love, So I can't
Speaker 1: I don't have to perform to be anything. I am
Speaker 1: the love I seek. I am the light I am
Speaker 1: in reality, I am feeling the light that I am.
Speaker 1: When I am on stage, I am resonating truth so deeply.
Speaker 1: I am feeling the reflection of all that I am.
Speaker 1: I am feeling the oneness that is. And that's so huge.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us have a hard time
Speaker 1: letting that in because I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: can relate to the I need to perform to receive
Speaker 1: love like that is said. I mean, then look at
Speaker 1: look at social media, look at everywhere that's all around us.
Speaker 1: Of performance. In order to feel, you know, we have
Speaker 1: to wear the mask in order to to be liked
Speaker 1: and um. But then we do get into these places
Speaker 1: where we for me it's stage. For some people that
Speaker 1: might be meditation, it might be creating art where we
Speaker 1: do drop into this deeper sense of self. And I
Speaker 1: know for me, one of the most challenging pieces in
Speaker 1: my life right now is allowing that to fully come
Speaker 1: into play, like to feel, to really embody the joy
Speaker 1: that that brings or sometimes and I think also that's
Speaker 1: why I cry so much on stage. It's like, holy
Speaker 1: sh it, It's like this overwhelming force of love that
Speaker 1: is joyful, and I'm like, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do with this, Like my nervous system doesn't know what
Speaker 1: to do with it. I think people might get into
Speaker 1: that space and almost resist the higher piece of them
Speaker 1: because it's we've we've conditioned ourselves so deeply to feel
Speaker 1: the suffering that that almost feels like baseline. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And because it's a linear well, first I want to
Speaker 1: I'll go right back to the suffering, but before I forget,
Speaker 1: my little brain a little hungry. Um. But those moments,
Speaker 1: it's like how much is lean there? She's not? So
Speaker 1: how could it be? You know what I mean? It's
Speaker 1: like it is actually the most easiest thing is to
Speaker 1: just be and to have that. You know. The other
Speaker 1: thing I like to think of is like a references
Speaker 1: when you think of how does your soul feel embodied?
Speaker 1: You know, when we're and it may be in those moments.
Speaker 1: It maybe when you're standing in front of a tree,
Speaker 1: like and you're like basking in and you're like when
Speaker 1: you have those moments where and you're so relaxed and
Speaker 1: you're such in a state of being, that is our
Speaker 1: natural state, and it's also the truth of every like
Speaker 1: it's where truth lives, is where your soul lives. That
Speaker 1: where it's where in tuition lives. It's like and our
Speaker 1: ego is not there, and like and doesn't that give
Speaker 1: us enough prove of you know, of how real that are? Are? Unreal?
Speaker 1: Our suffering is if the present cannot hold it? How
Speaker 1: because when you are fully present, your suffering is not
Speaker 1: there because your ego isn't there, And so how real
Speaker 1: can it be? But yes, you know, and even the
Speaker 1: suffering is essentially the same. I have to I have
Speaker 1: to be in lack in order to receive. I have
Speaker 1: to be at love or you know, mostly love. Most
Speaker 1: of love um or safety, right, like a sense of safety.
Speaker 1: So it's just the other thing I like to think too,
Speaker 1: about beliefs instead of taking ownership of them, because like
Speaker 1: pain is nothing to take ownership of, it's something to feel.
Speaker 1: We have to move through all of these things. But
Speaker 1: it's just a linear concept, right, It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like thinking that love came from other things
Speaker 1: where I was believing in like this this linear perception
Speaker 1: and then just looking at what is what we said
Speaker 1: is you know, how would my soul see this? But
Speaker 1: it could also be what is the unconditional truth of
Speaker 1: this essence? You know, in this case, you're looking for love.
Speaker 1: So if nobody ever told me what love was, how
Speaker 1: would I define it? What are the moments when I
Speaker 1: have felt the highest states of love? All right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let that question sink in as we cut away
Speaker 1: for a quick break, but we'll be right back with more.
Speaker 1: Brie Melanson, welcome back, my love. Bree has just asked
Speaker 1: me to share the moments when I have felt the
Speaker 1: highest states of love. Wow for a second, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you know I love is something that I talk about often.
Speaker 1: I know you talked about it often. And that's a
Speaker 1: great question because I've really I have asked myself how
Speaker 1: would I define it? But it's sometimes I have fine
Speaker 1: words for it. It is if it's such a feeling,
Speaker 1: but that's good. Then you have that anchor, right, you
Speaker 1: have that you say then once you really maybe you're
Speaker 1: visiting it and doing it in meditation, but you anchor
Speaker 1: it in yourself and you're like, Okay, this is the
Speaker 1: feeling of love. So in this so when then when
Speaker 1: you go out into the world and we get you know,
Speaker 1: it's all very enticing. The allusions um then if then
Speaker 1: you use it as your anchor, just like truth, right,
Speaker 1: because truths felt, it is, it is a it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's similar to love or the essence of the
Speaker 1: soul in that it is based in oneness. Right, what
Speaker 1: is true is with a capital ty, like a divine
Speaker 1: truth is going to be true to all beings, right,
Speaker 1: that that had the higher truth and that is going
Speaker 1: to be in the same kind of expanse of almost
Speaker 1: like an expansiveness or a neutrality or knowing or yeah,
Speaker 1: resonance with oneness. And so then you use that as
Speaker 1: your anchor, be a truth or love. And then when
Speaker 1: you go out into the world, Okay, now where am
Speaker 1: I because of how I'm feeling? Where am I in
Speaker 1: relation to truth and in awareness to that? You know,
Speaker 1: our motions are just feedback. They're literally it's just information
Speaker 1: about where we're standing in relation to our inherent truth.
Speaker 1: And then we can look at oh, and then we
Speaker 1: get to we get to use um our experience for
Speaker 1: our expansion. It's like beyond in the mind are feeling
Speaker 1: is okay, I'm feeling this, so I must have kiltered
Speaker 1: off my truth and that's okay, And then you can
Speaker 1: kind of go through this process truth all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean doing here right. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what. You know. What I've been playing around with
Speaker 1: that I really love is I've been speaking of anchoring. UM.
Speaker 1: I've been really finding what I call my home frequency,
Speaker 1: which I think is the what I what I feel
Speaker 1: like is very expansive UM. And I've been yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been playing I wish, I wish it's there all the time. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm creating a home and I it is there all
Speaker 1: the time that I do know, but I do venture
Speaker 1: off from it all the time, and which we all do.
Speaker 1: But it's a daily practice to start remembering to return to.
Speaker 1: And some days, um, some days that expansive if it's
Speaker 1: it feels like there's a cloud like it feels like
Speaker 1: cloud cover, and I know that it's there, but it
Speaker 1: seems so challenging to tap into because I have all
Speaker 1: this emotional turmoil going on on the inside that it's
Speaker 1: like I said, I know it's there, I can feel it,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a little bit harder to come home.
Speaker 1: And so that's been my new play that I've been
Speaker 1: having with myself. What does my home frequency feel like?
Speaker 1: And can I remember throughout the day, little touch in
Speaker 1: points of trying to feel or I guess it wouldn't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it would be just remembering, remembering what that
Speaker 1: feels like, right, And I think too when we are
Speaker 1: feeling low to like stay away from the condition because
Speaker 1: that's what the linear mine wants to do. It wants
Speaker 1: to fix something, you know, with problem with another condition.
Speaker 1: And so maybe it's a stepping stone and that's okay,
Speaker 1: but can you relax enough into presence or observing beauty
Speaker 1: or you know, it's like it's getting out of the
Speaker 1: head and really into your body too. You know, I
Speaker 1: always kind of joke, but it's really good because Tony
Speaker 1: Robbins says it like he's like, if you're get in
Speaker 1: your head, you're dead, you know, like the way you deliver,
Speaker 1: just like you think of him like you it's like
Speaker 1: getting back into the body, getting back into the present
Speaker 1: and in truth and then approaching it later because again
Speaker 1: that wrestling matches is not fun. Um what do you
Speaker 1: what do you would you know? No, you say getting
Speaker 1: back into the body. But I think for me and
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people out there too, like
Speaker 1: the body sometimes doesn't feel safe. M m so, yes,
Speaker 1: I understand the getting back into the body and getting
Speaker 1: into presence. But sometimes for some of us who have
Speaker 1: really store and a lot of trauma in the tissues
Speaker 1: which most of us have um in some way, shape
Speaker 1: or form like that, bodily feeling can be very uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: which is why I just want to go back up
Speaker 1: to my head and be like, I can exist here.
Speaker 1: It's which easier, right, I'm like, how's that working out? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: It's an infinite process. But I think also reframing um anything,
Speaker 1: but it could be the body, because again we tend
Speaker 1: to think that the soul lives out there, the soul
Speaker 1: is also ingrained within the body, and our body is
Speaker 1: actually our greatest anchor to truth. And when we feel anxiety,
Speaker 1: that is a call back to presence. But what we
Speaker 1: then do you know, Oh, the anxiety is a problem.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. We're not taught how
Speaker 1: to just have a conversation. And it's really amazing how
Speaker 1: quickly the answers can come up to the surface. And
Speaker 1: I don't say that because I say it, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I walk people through it, people that have never done
Speaker 1: it before, and even me having like this head cold
Speaker 1: the other day, I realized how I was giving my
Speaker 1: body all the things. And then then I did a
Speaker 1: meditation and I was writing. I just did some free writing, said, uh,
Speaker 1: if my healing was the healing of God, I would
Speaker 1: because I like to try that on if my body
Speaker 1: was the body of God, if myself my emotions and
Speaker 1: you just like you can play with it in meditation
Speaker 1: and then also free right on it. And I just
Speaker 1: saw that I was like treating my body as separate
Speaker 1: like here body, that my healing wasn't a collaborative like experience.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hello, l babe, you're a part of this.
Speaker 1: When it comes to maybe reframing the emotions um and
Speaker 1: remembering that there are no good and bad emotions. There
Speaker 1: are unpleasant emotions, but those stored things are in there
Speaker 1: to be felt and processed and turned into greater freedom.
Speaker 1: And so even doing free riding around emotion that you
Speaker 1: experience a lot, what would be the perspective of anxiety
Speaker 1: from the perception of my soul? If you know, if
Speaker 1: all emotions are in fact neutral information and feedback, how
Speaker 1: is how is this emotion? Emotion and invitation? And sometimes
Speaker 1: even just you'll be really surprised. It doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be some great in depth visualization, but just literally holding
Speaker 1: your heart or your belly or wherever you're feeling it
Speaker 1: and taking some breaths and just saying what is it
Speaker 1: that you need for me, my beloved or babe, and
Speaker 1: just being really gentle and you may hear you know.
Speaker 1: I did it the other day, just like not even
Speaker 1: connected because I was from this cold. I've been able
Speaker 1: to sleep, and then I was like watching something and
Speaker 1: then I was like, I felt like my heart racing
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is this? And then my
Speaker 1: body was like this isn't relaxing, Like this doesn't count
Speaker 1: as a relaxing because I'm like Netflix dad, And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh okay, but I'm you know, I'm evade.
Speaker 1: I'm essentially trying to evade the present. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: seeing it as an invitation because I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have stored things, but everything exists to serve our
Speaker 1: ultimate expansion. So it's not like the body and you're
Speaker 1: not saying this, but you know, it's not like the
Speaker 1: body is storing things against us or oh no, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's doing its job right, And yeah, they're freedom.
Speaker 1: Would you like somehere freedom? All right? That would be great? Um,
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're right. I mean everything, ultimately, what I
Speaker 1: hear is everything is an invitation back into presence. And
Speaker 1: I was just talking to my friend about this because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm prepping for a tour, and there's
Speaker 1: like my whole life is planning, and I think there's
Speaker 1: so many people out there, moms, like everybody's got to
Speaker 1: plan something. You're looking ahead always in life, and I've
Speaker 1: noticed in the last couple of days that I can
Speaker 1: look ahead, but it's like I don't want to look
Speaker 1: ahead and worry, and then I just get caught in
Speaker 1: this loop of and then I'm so far out there
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back into presence. And so it's it
Speaker 1: really has been this dance of and that I still
Speaker 1: yet to figure out how to plan and plan ahead
Speaker 1: for my life. So I can you know, take care
Speaker 1: of myself and be quote unquote safe as much as possible.
Speaker 1: How can I control as much as possible in front
Speaker 1: of me so that I that I don't feel uncomfortable
Speaker 1: when I'm out there, and then come back into presence
Speaker 1: when I'm done with it. I mean, I think that's
Speaker 1: there's this like dance, and it's if I let myself
Speaker 1: get too far out there, then I'm I'm screwed. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe so that the last use of this process is
Speaker 1: the expansion, which is essentially the embodiment. And it could
Speaker 1: apply to this in different ways. So when we look
Speaker 1: at like, how my soul to see this? You know
Speaker 1: that I am love, that I am like, or that
Speaker 1: I am held. If we're looking at okay, I have
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, circulating thoughts about what could
Speaker 1: happen or the worry or whatever it is, and so
Speaker 1: you know, trying on the perspective of the soul in
Speaker 1: regards to that, and what is true. What is true
Speaker 1: is that I have always been held. What is true
Speaker 1: is that when I let go, I can be carried.
Speaker 1: What is true is that you know, what if you're
Speaker 1: accessing that shift, that higher perception, and then what is
Speaker 1: the embodiment of that in this moment or or today?
Speaker 1: What would it look like two actualize that? I mean,
Speaker 1: it could be like a list of things like sometimes
Speaker 1: if I have this on my plate, the same feeling
Speaker 1: of oh there's a lot going on, I will sit
Speaker 1: and meditate and free right around what does it look
Speaker 1: like if I were to see this day from from source,
Speaker 1: from the light that I am from harmony? Then how
Speaker 1: do I approach it? And then there's your clarity. Then
Speaker 1: you get to let go of those other two dues
Speaker 1: that you've just that you're bringing up right, you can
Speaker 1: give yourself permission to let it go, or you're having
Speaker 1: somebody else to take care of something, or you're whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. But you get the clarity and what
Speaker 1: that that embodiment is. Yeah, so I guess I would ask, like,
Speaker 1: you know, even we've switched topics a little bit, but
Speaker 1: they're all yeah, totally. So if you, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: think about what you've been experiencing as you get ready,
Speaker 1: what would your soul tell you? Like, what is the
Speaker 1: truth about what is? See, here's where I'm like, I
Speaker 1: feel like I have truth that wants to come about
Speaker 1: what is and then I just don't want to believe it.
Speaker 1: Resistant I mean, ultimately, ultimately I know I am. I
Speaker 1: will be taken care of, Like I think that's no
Speaker 1: matter where I go, like, I will I will be
Speaker 1: taken care of. And that's been really coming up for
Speaker 1: me loud and clear, and it's like I still want
Speaker 1: to resist it. Well, tell me what, um, what makes
Speaker 1: it easier? So I'm like, I have the answer in
Speaker 1: my head, but I like for you to try it on. UM.
Speaker 1: I'm able to trust more when I'm carried, when I
Speaker 1: or when I'm blank, everything works out trust and when
Speaker 1: I'm trusted, when I'm in trust, when I'm surrendered. M
Speaker 1: And what helps you to be in that space? UM?
Speaker 1: I mean ultimately that home frequency of expansion, that is
Speaker 1: the trust in that is what helps me be in
Speaker 1: that space. Yeah. And I think also, um, the intention,
Speaker 1: What is my intention when we're when we're dropped in
Speaker 1: the what you said for sure, because it's in there.
Speaker 1: But the purity of service when I am in service,
Speaker 1: it's like how much do we which is the same
Speaker 1: thing to say is when I come from my honing
Speaker 1: home or you know, from my soul, right, But what
Speaker 1: does it look like for me to be in service
Speaker 1: in this day? Which is really just like getting that
Speaker 1: ego out the way. Maybe it's also just like listening
Speaker 1: to that song get out the way exactly, but yeah,
Speaker 1: just sitting with it and trying it on um. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, what does this meeting look like? What is
Speaker 1: this schedule look like, um, because I'm not suggesting to
Speaker 1: be like whatever, you know, like your hell, well that's
Speaker 1: what I That's interesting you say that because I think
Speaker 1: when people hear surrender, and this is something we've been
Speaker 1: talking about um a bit on this podcast through the
Speaker 1: through the season as surrender, and when people, I know,
Speaker 1: my little kid mind, sometimes when I hear that word,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we just give everything up and and
Speaker 1: just open arms and it'll all come. And I know
Speaker 1: that's not the case. Like what is for you? What
Speaker 1: is surrender? How does that take form? How do you
Speaker 1: embody surrender in your life? Well? I think surrender is
Speaker 1: giving up the fight, right, It's that what I know.
Speaker 1: But it's not giving up the thing. It's giving up
Speaker 1: the the linear and limited perceptions about the thing. Really quick.
Speaker 1: When you when you talk about obviously know what linear
Speaker 1: is linear perception? And then what's the opposite of that,
Speaker 1: the more expansive perception like that kind of or the unconditional,
Speaker 1: like what is the unconditional essence of this thing? And
Speaker 1: then another way to look at it is still looking
Speaker 1: at that ego soul. So if I'm like I really
Speaker 1: want this thing, then I want to what am I
Speaker 1: actually looking for through this thing or this person? And
Speaker 1: I think it's the thing, but we know around and
Speaker 1: will go to the next thing. So it's like, if
Speaker 1: I can consider what is the deeper like unconditional truth
Speaker 1: I'm actually searching for because it's what I want, it's
Speaker 1: what I it's my great desire is yeah, is to
Speaker 1: feel it and to embody it. And I'm actually never
Speaker 1: going to get it through those conditions people whatever, And
Speaker 1: so what does it look like then to embody that
Speaker 1: in this moment, that higher knowing or that I am
Speaker 1: love And yeah, you don't like snap your fingers. And
Speaker 1: it is a process, but it's training. It's just a
Speaker 1: reconditioning the mind right to be able to see it
Speaker 1: for what it really is in reverence, Like you look
Speaker 1: at kids and they're clear a f they're just like
Speaker 1: magic and love and I love you and you and
Speaker 1: you and you and they're just like and that's our
Speaker 1: inherent being. We're not withholding because we're not in fear.
Speaker 1: Love is and I give you all love and there's
Speaker 1: play of where that came from, right, And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's also easier to look at what concept
Speaker 1: can I let go of versus letting go of this
Speaker 1: thing that I really really want, because it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that you have to let go of that. It just
Speaker 1: means it can probably be greater, easier, greater. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love giving up the fight because I've noticed recently that
Speaker 1: that is the fight. I felt like I've had to
Speaker 1: fight for everything my whole life. And so there's this
Speaker 1: real deep belief and I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: will do, you know, with this the sense of lack
Speaker 1: and the need to always wrestle with life. Because for me,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, if I fight for it, then I
Speaker 1: I know or I think that I've really accomplished something.
Speaker 1: If it comes easy to me, then I haven't accomplished anything.
Speaker 1: Like there's always has to be some kind of hurdle
Speaker 1: to get over in order to feel like I've worked
Speaker 1: for it. Right, And what a beautiful thing too, to
Speaker 1: move past and to honor again like um, loving that
Speaker 1: belief into oblivion like thank you, like belove it like you,
Speaker 1: just because again it needs it's got a purpose. It's
Speaker 1: like you want to feel worthy of receiving, okay, like
Speaker 1: and so then when we can shift the higher, we
Speaker 1: can shift the purpose into like that higher perspective. Um,
Speaker 1: because we know on some level that you know, abundance
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with receiving or giving or you know,
Speaker 1: necessarily hard work. But we love the journey, Like how
Speaker 1: amazing has it been to like commit to things and
Speaker 1: to do that work. It's not about just like laying
Speaker 1: around and eating cheetos and like being like I don't
Speaker 1: know a little work out, but um yeah, just looking
Speaker 1: at how beautiful that's been and what it's created and
Speaker 1: really loving it so that it can go, not like
Speaker 1: because we want to get read to get ready of
Speaker 1: our blacks, you know, like but just be like just
Speaker 1: like love it, like sit in a meditation and or
Speaker 1: do yoga class, like in adoration of of that what
Speaker 1: we may have perceived as like a negative belief for
Speaker 1: block and what beauty and just like honor it and
Speaker 1: her and all the things that it's come from it.
Speaker 1: And now what to like, um yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: you know, when I when we surrender to our inherent self,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's another way of looking at it. It's
Speaker 1: like how do how do I surrender into my soul?
Speaker 1: And because our soul and our inherent self is like
Speaker 1: the tether too good co creative field, so that it's
Speaker 1: gonna flow. Like you look at nature perfectly freaking balance,
Speaker 1: like when we don't touch it, it is insane, like
Speaker 1: to like the micro micro like it's just it's incredible.
Speaker 1: And that is also our inherent state. And so surrendering
Speaker 1: the struggle, surrendering into our inherent state so that we
Speaker 1: can be guided and carried and so that we can
Speaker 1: catch the inspiration that will be the shortcut, so that
Speaker 1: we don't have to do all the things to get
Speaker 1: to that one place right totally. It's interesting because I
Speaker 1: think that's why a lot of people shy away from meditation,
Speaker 1: and because we've been taught that like that's being surrendered
Speaker 1: in a state of being is we're not doing anything,
Speaker 1: and I know that we're not, but we are, like
Speaker 1: there's so much to be done. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things I've really learned about rest for myself and I'm
Speaker 1: still learning it, is that there's so much going on
Speaker 1: in the being state. And you know, we've we have
Speaker 1: this condition mind around being with being in meditation and
Speaker 1: this being state, and it's people just don't we don't
Speaker 1: know how to be. We just don't know how to
Speaker 1: sit in it honestly, Like I there's a I don't mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be negative, but I'm like it
Speaker 1: was on purpose because within the being is that incredible
Speaker 1: co creative power. Like if you think about it, we
Speaker 1: can understand it. Like as I just said, like the
Speaker 1: souls are tethered to the co created field. It's what
Speaker 1: actually creates. And then you look, you know, and you
Speaker 1: see your doing self. You know, basically it just looks
Speaker 1: like you're pushing around papers and organizing things and instead
Speaker 1: of resting and being so that you catch Yeah, that
Speaker 1: flow of inspiration that is a slight. It's a slight
Speaker 1: doing all of our conditioning and all of the linear stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, I have to do that to get This
Speaker 1: keeps us away from the magic that we're like seeking
Speaker 1: that we know is there, and we're like, well is
Speaker 1: it in that person? Like is it in this money?
Speaker 1: Is it? If we're like looking under all the things
Speaker 1: like yeah, and and within that paradigm of thought, we're
Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't want to say, wasting life force,
Speaker 1: but it's And we are going to replenish here with
Speaker 1: a brief pause, but we'll be right back in just
Speaker 1: a minute. Hello again, my friends Brie and I were
Speaker 1: discussing ways in which we hold ourselves in our creativity
Speaker 1: back comparison judgment, because with the ego believes it's limited,
Speaker 1: We're like, well, I need to judge them in order
Speaker 1: to know I can have it, or you know, or
Speaker 1: to feel better about myself. Yeah, totes, and it's all
Speaker 1: this like undercurrent but um, yes, and that's how interesting.
Speaker 1: The undercurrent is exhausting. I've always I will talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, how thought forms, certain thoughts make us feel
Speaker 1: certain things, that kind of loop that goes on. And
Speaker 1: I've said to many of my therapist I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: not for me. It's not a thought necessarily. It's like
Speaker 1: an energetic current that has no I can I can
Speaker 1: even be, I can be in meditation, and that current
Speaker 1: can still be going through there and it is. It's
Speaker 1: that's the exhausting part of it for me is that
Speaker 1: there's this always this kind of this this current in
Speaker 1: the background that has been created by many different thought forms.
Speaker 1: But sometimes the thought form can go away and that
Speaker 1: current can still be there and it's and that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I think what I'm starting to play with with
Speaker 1: that home frequency. It's like, Okay, how how do I
Speaker 1: how do I get into a different current? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. And so it's it's both. It's it's within
Speaker 1: the being and then it's taking that thought just like
Speaker 1: we're talking about with emotions and saying, hey, babe, what
Speaker 1: do you got? What are you really looking for? At
Speaker 1: which you need? Oh? You wanted this? You want That's
Speaker 1: like that's at all that inner child work. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh you are love like, bab you get totally got this.
Speaker 1: And so when you're in a higher state to maybe
Speaker 1: have a conversation with that thought or just have the
Speaker 1: awareness of oh, I see it's a greater purpose now,
Speaker 1: and then it can served that versus the the lower
Speaker 1: vibrational yeah, because there is no like good or bad
Speaker 1: or you know like higher lower really but yeah, just yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a more productive well even that and I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a gentler way that. Yeah. Then the heaviness,
Speaker 1: So that can feel like that the current that we're
Speaker 1: normally in and it is uncomfortable because we're not used
Speaker 1: to it, but like don't feel good when we just
Speaker 1: like relax into it. And I've really been playing with that,
Speaker 1: like the past couple of years in like you know
Speaker 1: flow or no, like you know, even if it's a
Speaker 1: nice shiny opportunity, but it's not, it doesn't light me up,
Speaker 1: and it feels like you dum be like you're not
Speaker 1: going to say yes to this and yeah and then
Speaker 1: be like now but then it's so wild to see
Speaker 1: then what can come through and beyond that the doing
Speaker 1: self like even you asking me to be on this
Speaker 1: podcast and like and the same week, like I had,
Speaker 1: I've spent a couple of weeks. Um, I'm not good
Speaker 1: with um like medita, I'm like m meditation and I'm
Speaker 1: usually I'm not consistent with it. But I did like
Speaker 1: this twenty one day thing where I connected with myself
Speaker 1: wow freaking wow, like so much opened up and so
Speaker 1: much like serendipity where I was like looking around like
Speaker 1: what the actual left and like within the week like
Speaker 1: not you know, having practiced, I'm not going to reach
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I want to watch hone in on
Speaker 1: my my light so that people can find me right
Speaker 1: like instead of I love that. Yeah, just doing all
Speaker 1: the things and reaching out and getting ready. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I haven't done anything to essentially grow my business.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's the greatest business advice, but
Speaker 1: in this chapter, so anyway, you and then you asked
Speaker 1: me to be on this, and then this like a
Speaker 1: couple of days later, um, like TV producers contacted me
Speaker 1: about and I was, and then there was like something else,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I love that though, I mean, I
Speaker 1: love the growing your lights of that people can find you.
Speaker 1: Like that's so powerful, so powerful, and when you think
Speaker 1: about it from that perspective, like I think about rest,
Speaker 1: like what my what is going on at a cellular
Speaker 1: level on my body when that happened. Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there's a big reframe for all of us two
Speaker 1: recognize that it is, you know, that internal light. The
Speaker 1: more we grow that, the more we take care of ourselves,
Speaker 1: Like the more the things that we truly desire are
Speaker 1: they show up, Like they really do show up, and
Speaker 1: you do have to you don't have to be too
Speaker 1: I mean, like I know when I meditate and I'm consistent,
Speaker 1: the things that just pop in, you know, constantly there's
Speaker 1: pop pop in ideas and then things do just start
Speaker 1: showing up and so much so that it does test
Speaker 1: you on if it's not aligned are you going Are
Speaker 1: you going to say no? Um? Which I I find
Speaker 1: so interesting because it's like all these things can start
Speaker 1: to show up and that you can start to feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have to take if you've been in a if
Speaker 1: you've been in a drought, or you've been in a
Speaker 1: place where you haven't been tapped into are you feel
Speaker 1: like you haven't been tapped into that? Um? It's so
Speaker 1: easy to jump on the bandwagon of whatever shows up
Speaker 1: in my life because it's an opportunity, you know. And
Speaker 1: that's okay too, like however long it takes for us
Speaker 1: to ye to learn, but um, yeah, and just I'm like,
Speaker 1: just try universes Like try me though, why don't you
Speaker 1: try it? It's like just give it a little bit
Speaker 1: of a go and yeah, it is uncomfortable, and I think, Um,
Speaker 1: the other thing that it is is doing it just
Speaker 1: to be in flow, like because again the eagle will
Speaker 1: like seep into end of greasy little hands on anything.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, you want to do flow and
Speaker 1: he goes like, let's do flow. So we didn't get
Speaker 1: the thing and day but absolutely, yeah, just read my mind,
Speaker 1: like let's go do this things so I can get
Speaker 1: the thing totally and you will. But it's you know,
Speaker 1: when you're in that state and you're actually in reverence
Speaker 1: and in appreciation, it's like, what is richer than that? Zero?
Speaker 1: Zero things are better than just being fully in that
Speaker 1: presence and reverence for for what is? Because those other
Speaker 1: highs are so quick, right, you're like totally, and then
Speaker 1: the egos like, well let's evaluate. You're like okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: well and then you all all you want is more
Speaker 1: of that thing mostly yeah, and eventually runs out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tiring, it's tiring, and yeah, I'm so excited. Um,
Speaker 1: I want to really follow and I'm going to I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just keep following this path and see what happens
Speaker 1: because it's like, yeah, it's so beautiful that trust, and yeah,
Speaker 1: how else are we to actually learn it? Right? We're
Speaker 1: like we want to attendance, like we want like flattering July.
Speaker 1: And then we're like we're like, but we ain't gonna
Speaker 1: let go of the way we were absolutely absolutely don't
Speaker 1: you love I love that when you get re taught
Speaker 1: the things in your life that you teach you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I think, and it just comes back
Speaker 1: around all the time. Two, A new understanding, a deeper understanding,
Speaker 1: and you know, when you step out of that for
Speaker 1: a moment, it's like when you show back up in it,
Speaker 1: like you you relearn in a new way all the
Speaker 1: magic that's there. Yeah, it's really an infinite process. And
Speaker 1: I l O l at myself all the time. It
Speaker 1: go just like yeah, seeing myself struggling, and then I
Speaker 1: let go and then things are provided and I feel
Speaker 1: like the universe is like here are you stupid? Be
Speaker 1: like when is this? Isn't this everything you wanted? And
Speaker 1: more like, yeah, you gotta have a sense of humor
Speaker 1: about it. I mean if you don't have a sense
Speaker 1: of humor, then we're seriously speaking of lacking, like you know,
Speaker 1: it would be it would be a horrible, horrible world
Speaker 1: to not have a sense of humor about all of this.
Speaker 1: And you know it's puny a material too, Oh for sure. Absolutely, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on here. This is really fun.
Speaker 1: I loved it. Like talking to you, I am go
Speaker 1: ahead and I was just gonna be like you're amazing,
Speaker 1: because you are, and I just uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's really incredible too. I I I hope you give
Speaker 1: yourself credit for being so young and being in the
Speaker 1: limelight like that is hard. I think about that all
Speaker 1: the time, people that have reached any level of fame
Speaker 1: when they're young, like but they haven't even gotten their
Speaker 1: footing and then they're in this arena. Um yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that is like some intense learning and you've really yeah,
Speaker 1: just some n yeah go o D in your heart. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. Um yeah. Someone asked
Speaker 1: me the other day of like how I when I
Speaker 1: was younger, Like how I We were talking about religion
Speaker 1: and how I new to question things so young about
Speaker 1: me feeling like there was this real sense of hypocrisy.
Speaker 1: This is totally indifferent subject, but also bringing back to
Speaker 1: what you just said, Um, there was. I felt like
Speaker 1: there was a lot of hypocrisy in what I was seeing.
Speaker 1: And I was like six and um someone asked me
Speaker 1: what at that age like made me question things, and
Speaker 1: I said, I think my heart, Like I believe it
Speaker 1: was just it boils down to like, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just my my heart. The things that are there that
Speaker 1: the and maybe it was the creativity and the creative
Speaker 1: energy of you know, just being able to have this
Speaker 1: voice so young that was I was able to touch
Speaker 1: and up on it UM so deeply. UM. And I
Speaker 1: I'm really more than ever, like I think, grateful for that,
Speaker 1: so grateful for that piece of me because it really
Speaker 1: does allow me even though I want to, like I
Speaker 1: want to shut it off and shut it down sometimes
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh I feel so much. It's UM,
Speaker 1: it's such a it's such a beautiful piece. And I'm
Speaker 1: I'm really grateful that it's taken me through hell and back.
Speaker 1: And we will be back to wrap up my conversation
Speaker 1: with Brie right after this break, Welcome back everyone. Brie
Speaker 1: and I were just discussing going through discomfort to find
Speaker 1: greater peace. Well, how else do you get to bless
Speaker 1: you know? I was like, how does the awaken one
Speaker 1: get to the other side? Well, yes, it's so true.
Speaker 1: It's real, real talk. And I shared with you too
Speaker 1: that I, you know, I had that vision of you
Speaker 1: and that you know, all of us are essentially always
Speaker 1: yearning for the light and yearning for that feeling of
Speaker 1: um grace and oneness and God and it's in what
Speaker 1: It's in everything that we look for and everything that
Speaker 1: we desire UM, and you're just seeing that piece of you, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was your call, like that's the calling and then
Speaker 1: through the voice. But I was like, oh my, yeah,
Speaker 1: so beautiful. So the other day someone I saw someone
Speaker 1: say that we have a God shaped whole in our heart,
Speaker 1: we all do, and I thought that was so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I'm like, because it's what basically you just said, it's
Speaker 1: like getting we all want to fill that hole with
Speaker 1: with something, but ultimately we're looking for that connection and
Speaker 1: that feeling and that feeling of oneness. And I love
Speaker 1: that idea of that is something that within the oneness
Speaker 1: that we all, um we all connect did through is
Speaker 1: this God shape whole. Hey, I have an album out
Speaker 1: coming out called God's Work, so I totally understand the God.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I just I just want to say it
Speaker 1: all the time, gott got got got got God. It was.
Speaker 1: I used to be so triggered by that, like growing
Speaker 1: up the way I did and now and then like
Speaker 1: there's a whole reclamation of that word for myself un
Speaker 1: noticed too when I like, if I channel something and
Speaker 1: then I go to like record it on those channel
Speaker 1: transmissions or they're kind of like meditations, and sometimes when
Speaker 1: I take the word got out, it just like it
Speaker 1: feels so different It's so funny because I'll try to
Speaker 1: replace it with like wholeness or source or and sometimes
Speaker 1: I can, but I sometimes I and then I'll hear
Speaker 1: it and I go, oh, baby, shouldn't just rest God?
Speaker 1: Re insert God? Well? Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I have before you leave. I have. I always asked
Speaker 1: my guests this, Um, I have something called the Holy Five,
Speaker 1: which is all about music. So if you can hit
Speaker 1: me up with like five songs either that you're loving
Speaker 1: right now or that maybe over your lifetime, have become
Speaker 1: your favorites, thank you. I loved this. It was so
Speaker 1: cool to like think about it. You really understand a
Speaker 1: person by doing this and like asking them their their
Speaker 1: five songs. It's like and it's like such vulnerability. You're
Speaker 1: like sharing a playlist. You're like, well, I guess this
Speaker 1: is who I am. That says it does. It says
Speaker 1: a lot about people, and that's why I love it
Speaker 1: so much because I can learn a lot about people
Speaker 1: on their music. I love it. I also like love
Speaker 1: hip hop and like just like trapped, like Ratchet, and
Speaker 1: I also like love like cheesy French and Spanish pop
Speaker 1: and my it's all over the place. My first one
Speaker 1: that I is not. I'm like, in no particular order.
Speaker 1: Grace Land by Paul Simon, I, you know, going to Grace,
Speaker 1: Grace for families, and we are going to Grace. I
Speaker 1: don't think I know that's Oh, it's so good. It's
Speaker 1: such a high vibe and I just yeah, it's it's joy. Um.
Speaker 1: It also kind of reminds me of Elvis. Which do
Speaker 1: you love Elvis? I was going to ask that obsessed.
Speaker 1: I feel like all my soulmates are not on this
Speaker 1: plane anymore. Like right, I can understand that feeling. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: Into the Mystic by Van Morrison, just that went back
Speaker 1: in the day of the move. Yeah, guess that's sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's also spiritual notes but keep it earthy and
Speaker 1: Garth Brooks if Tomorrow never comes. I cry every damn
Speaker 1: time I hear that song. If morow will you know
Speaker 1: how much a dry every Some of those songs he
Speaker 1: has are just heartbreaking that the dance like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I love so many of his and I could be
Speaker 1: interchangeable about that one, like yeah, that really rips muscle out,
Speaker 1: and then partition might be once roll up the Partition please,
Speaker 1: I don't need to your say on how niece took
Speaker 1: What if I'm minutes took it? I'll just even oh
Speaker 1: my God to scot have a running red listick mood, nice,
Speaker 1: a moment, scorpio moment, Are you scorpio? Yeah? Yeah, and yeah.
Speaker 1: I also used to have a burlesque company. Fun. Now
Speaker 1: that's fun. And I've listened to this song an unhealthy
Speaker 1: amount of times. It's called whole a lot of money,
Speaker 1: A whole lot of money, A lot of money. Is
Speaker 1: that the artist or is that the song? That's the song?
Speaker 1: Is I put on my jury just to go to
Speaker 1: the Botego and I keep it women to show that
Speaker 1: I'm feeling safe for sending on my body. But my
Speaker 1: feet is in Botego, which I'm getting money give a
Speaker 1: funk about? Is that your manifestation song? Not like in
Speaker 1: my bank account, but like that we are abundant. That's fun.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start. Yeah, okay, thank you for fun and
Speaker 1: not easy and also an act of vulnerability. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: thanks for sharing with us. I appreciate it. Wait, can
Speaker 1: I ask you one question? Yes? Um, if you could
Speaker 1: do a duet with any buddy dead or laugh all
Speaker 1: those terms are relative, but right on this plane or not. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was so hard because it's like three,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to offend anybody exactly. I don't
Speaker 1: want them to hunt me in my dreams at night.
Speaker 1: I mean I would always I've been compared to Patsy
Speaker 1: Climb my whole life, so I think that would definitely
Speaker 1: be one of them. Um, I'm gonna go with all
Speaker 1: the dead people for a moment. So the other plane people, Um,
Speaker 1: I would say, Um, oh my god, the who's the
Speaker 1: guy from hold On? He was an audio slave. He
Speaker 1: passed away a couple of years ago. Chris Cornell. I
Speaker 1: don't know Chris Cornell. You don't know Chris Cornell, Chris
Speaker 1: Christmas in um black holes Son, Well whence you come?
Speaker 1: Sound Garden? Oh? I love his voice? His voice is
Speaker 1: so um And then who else would I? I might
Speaker 1: bring back some Judy Garland I loved, Yeah, I love like,
Speaker 1: I mean just her voice was. It was stunning, such
Speaker 1: a control, such a gorgeous singer. So yeah, those are
Speaker 1: the first three that come to mind. Okay, I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was curious. There are many. There are many, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, And then you can like call them
Speaker 1: into right, like absolutely. I mean, we can always do
Speaker 1: a hologram, can always do the hologram. They can be
Speaker 1: right there on stage with me. I don't know, call
Speaker 1: in their essence you like be with me, that's true.
Speaker 1: I think I do that anyway. I think I do
Speaker 1: that with many female voices because I don't feel like
Speaker 1: any of us are original anyway, like we're we're all.
Speaker 1: I mean we are. And at the same time, when
Speaker 1: it comes to what we've been influenced by, we've been
Speaker 1: We've I've pulled from so many people that I feel
Speaker 1: like the essence, like of all of these women are
Speaker 1: live on through what I how I create. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of people that are always with
Speaker 1: me when I sing. Yeah, I know, I'm sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Off to take a little gander behind the curtain,
Speaker 1: but the physical curtain. No, But thank you and thank
Speaker 1: you for your light and all the work that you've
Speaker 1: done within. Thank you m yeah, and your courage and
Speaker 1: just what you're sharing with the world and what you
Speaker 1: will continue to and it's strong and it's felt and
Speaker 1: we have no idea, we will just never know. Always
Speaker 1: you know that our light affects others and yeah, I
Speaker 1: see you and thank you for your path and your courage.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for being here. That was fun
Speaker 1: and that wraps up this episode of Holy Human. I
Speaker 1: want to thank me for joining me for a very
Speaker 1: thought provoking chat. And please don't forget to share your
Speaker 1: thoughts me and the comments wherever you're listening, because you,
Speaker 1: guys know, I love hearing your feedback. And the next
Speaker 1: Holy Human is our season three finale, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: go out in spectacular style. My special guest will be
Speaker 1: the beautiful and uncomfortable Mickey Guidan. In addition to being
Speaker 1: a country superstar, she's truly one of my most favorite
Speaker 1: people on earth and I can't wait for you to
Speaker 1: get a glimpse into why. I can promise you a
Speaker 1: lively and entertaining conversation filled with laughter. I'm sure if
Speaker 1: your tears, and who knows, we might even break out
Speaker 1: into this song. You never know, but no matter what,
Speaker 1: it's going to be one that you won't want to miss.
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