WEBVTT - Bree Melanson 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 Holy Human with Leanne Rhymes is a production of I 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:14.920 Heart Radio. Hello, My Love's welcome to this very intuitive 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:19.720 episode of Holy Human with a very intuitive guest. Brima 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.960 Lanson is a spiritual facilitator with a surprisingly practical approach 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.600 to tapping into the transformative power of our true potential, 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.280 which is by tuning into our intuition. I think you'll 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:35.040 find her way of viewing our spirituality and purpose really unique, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.199 refreshing and insightful. And she's here today to share her 0:00:39.240 --> 0:01:12.040 wisdom with us all on Holy Human. Yeah, yeah, bring, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.320 thank you so much, thank you for coming on here. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.920 I'm so excited to talk to you because I've been 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.560 I've been dabbling in your work and your your offerings 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.720 for a while now. And yeah, it's just all of 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.679 your offerings seems so loving. There's just so much beautiful 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.280 energy behind them. Thank you. What a magnificent honor. And 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.080 uh yeah, I'm already gonna I'm just like, heads up, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.640 this bee's gonna cry. Well, join the club, because it 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.280 happens all the time. I don't I just cried before 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.080 we got on here. I have a thing. I don't 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.640 know what it is. I usually go through some sort 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:51.840 of grief process before I get on a podcast. It's 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.040 really interesting for me, and it's just been I usually 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.920 went through. I used to go through a fear process 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.200 where I was just terrified, and now I've switched from 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.520 fear to grief. Cry for I mean, do you think 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.320 it's grief or do you because I mean, I We've 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.000 talked very briefly about this and I experienced it all 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.840 the time where I feel like there is a higher 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.359 love coming through in which my body short circuits, right, 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.200 and it's me processing that greater love, And it's part 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.639 of being the witness, right, And so I'm not I'm 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.400 not like I'm just asking. I mean maybe maybe you've 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.360 already identified it and you know that it's interesting. Well no, 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.239 so wow, that's really interesting for me because that happens 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.480 to me when I sing. There's a lot of emotion 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.800 that comes through, and I find myself crying often and 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.600 I try to stay out a judgment for that because 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.120 sometimes I feel like, oh, this is my unprocessed emotional 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.160 ship getting in the way of my job. And at 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:56.520 the same time, I know that is also how tapped 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.400 in and tuned and I am to emotion, And it's 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:04.200 just that openness of creativity that flows through is it 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:09.120 brings on, it brings on intense feelings and they just 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.600 I feel like that's part of what I'm here to share, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.840 is that authenticity and to show people that it's okay, 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.720 it's okay to be in these feelings even when you're 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.400 yeah yeah, and maybe especially I mean, I I think, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.919 you know, we're obviously so conditioned to stuff it like 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.720 the barrels of yourself for later and for like when later. Um, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:38.400 but but this last couple of years, whatever shift I 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:44.320 am experiencing whenever I teach larger classes, especially if they're 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.960 you know, looking at me and I'm really in that moment, 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.560 I will ball and like, if you know you've come 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.440 to a couple of my classes, you know she's gonna cry. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.600 But it's just it's from love. I feel. The other 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.960 thing that I consider sometimes, which may apply to this 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:07.080 as well, is I'm feeling the magnitude of maybe what 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:13.000 people in class will experience, but it's not conscious, right, like, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.920 and because time really is an illusion and we're rooting 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.680 in the intention of whatever it is to make people 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:25.359 feel right, but not me right. I'm supposed to be 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.560 the wizard that doesn't feel anything right. So I really, 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.719 you know, learned to surrender to it because it just 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:36.120 wasn't an option, and it really gave permission. Other people 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.560 were like, yeah, I you know, gave them permission to 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.640 feel or cry or and then I make fun of 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.279 myself all the time, but then I'll cry on like 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:48.400 a big stupid baby. Like but it is, and it's 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.960 such an emotional release for people. I know when I sing, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.640 when people are at my concerts, I am creating that 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.279 space for people to feel the things that they don't 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.560 normally feel. And music does that so well. Breath when 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.279 you're facilitating breath work, breath does that. And so it's 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.800 you really are creating that space. And like you're saying, 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.880 if you're holding that, it will come through you. You're like, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.000 this is how it's done. Let her up. Maybe that's 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.000 a new ritual. Maybe maybe that's what's happening. I should 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.200 just roll with it. Well, now that I've talked about that, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.800 let's wind up, backup, press second. How do how do 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.600 you explain what you do to people when they meet you, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.599 Because sometimes it depends like I'll kind of, you know, 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.279 gauge it, but I also don't dance around it because 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.120 I've just over the years, I've just I've done too 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:41.000 much dancing. Yeah, and now I'm just rooted in it, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.200 and I'm like, you could or leave it. And also 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.320 I've created a vibrational field where I don't encounter that 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.800 many people to where it's uncomfortable or they don't understand 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.280 or they don't believe or whatever it is, it's really interesting. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.440 So I mean, I did readings for years, and even 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.440 when I did readings, I was like, you can see me, Frice, 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.120 And I was just like, because I wanted them to, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.960 you know, and then call me when you have another 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.360 great shift in your life. But I didn't want to 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:14.320 be anybody to be dependent on me. If I can 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.240 do this, you can do this. And so I think 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.520 a larger part of my passion or maybe all of 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:27.800 it is supporting others and empowering others and accessing our 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.520 potential or access to a field that we all have 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.120 access to, just most of us have forgotten. And so 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.800 if I were to really basic it up, you know, 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.599 I'm a meditation teacher or um but usually you know 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.520 the nails, Yeah, I just say, well, I help people 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.000 to uh, you know, move past their blocks and and 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:54.520 reconnect with their inherent intuition and yeah, the self heal, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.560 which we all have the capability of. Um, you find 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.680 do you find that when people? Do you find when 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.160 you say I'm a psychic medium or do you use 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.680 those words? Are people super triggered by that? Not anymore? 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.880 I think that's when I first started. I had to 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:14.239 fight for it because my beliefs were that right, Um, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.200 And it was great because then it also it helped 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.520 me to stand more firm and not in a place 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.760 of any type of fighting against But if I'm holding it, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.840 you don't really question it, right, If I'm wavering, I 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.600 think I've I've moved moved through that to where I 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.280 just like literally don't encounter it anymore, which is yeah, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.080 just it's a trip. I love that. I love that 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.840 you're talking about holding holding our beliefs around what we 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.480 what we believe we are, Like, how do we when 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.280 we when we wanted to were wanting to move into 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:53.240 a space of true belief of the thing that we wanted, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.560 the person that we are, but we feel like we're 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.720 not quite there yet, how do we start to really 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:05.320 move in that direction of of of belief around the 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.360 thing that we're not quite but really no we are. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.360 Does that make sense? Give me an example. Is it 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.040 that I can embody? Yes, that I can embody? I mean, well, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.160 for me, it's been interesting because I've been singing my 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.840 whole life and so I I used to have this 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.280 really powerful belief and I still do, of course, but 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.119 there's this something that shifted for me over the years, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.640 this powerful belief that I could do anything. And I 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.959 had no question in my mind about what I can 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.360 do with my voice. And you know, going through life 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.880 UM and it's ups and downs, it got into my 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:47.960 mind that I was somehow less than and it that 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.720 was the one place in my life that the less 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:54.240 than like didn't creep in. UM was was my music, 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.400 and somehow along the way with all the ship I 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:02.079 went through publicly, it did. And so it's really been interesting, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.960 you know, as that ego piece of me UM, which 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.280 I love and it serves its purpose, and I still 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:09.800 have to have it in order to do my job. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:15.360 As that's kind of dissolved into UM and a deeper 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.360 sense of humanity has come into play. I'm finding myself 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.959 really towing the line between the two of those. And 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.480 when we need to step into our power and this 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.960 belief of I can do anything, I can be anything, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.280 I can have anything. How do we step into that 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.680 more fully when we there's a piece of us that's 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.360 and I'm not so sure about that, I mean, and 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.120 that to me, the humanity of that piece it serves 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.360 so beautifully too, So we don't want to demonize that 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:47.800 other side of it. Yeah, tot, what I believe to 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.960 be true is that So if we're talking about that 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:57.360 resistance or doubt, right, usually it's in direct correlation from 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.840 which even a lot of times we're not conscious of it, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.520 of where we're allowing the ego to be the motivation. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.439 And again a lot of times it's not on the surface. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.679 M And the same could be said as for our 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.840 suffering right or where we perceive to be lack in 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.640 our lives. Those are the areas in which the ego 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.840 is driving a little bit more. And as you've said, perfectly, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.040 it's a vehicle for our expansion and we need it 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.880 and it's great, and let's celebrate the lee also love 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.600 that it's is it leally, let's love it. It's it's 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:39.240 land brake, you know, just still celebrate that essence of 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.720 the self and not yeah, and not try to totally 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.080 wipe it out because it is fun, it is glorious, 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:47.600 and it's allowed you to create a lot of things. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.120 So you know, what I always like to take things 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.120 from is in a dualistic way. Is that perspective of 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.160 the ego and soul, and that can be love and fear, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.480 and that can be you know, you can use a 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.680 lot of different words. You know. True, it's an illusion. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.920 And so when we're looking at what we perceive an 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:07.840 issue and or something that we just want to shift. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:13.040 So I'm gonna super quickly break down a process that's 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.000 that I feel that you could have kind of apply 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.920 to everything to get clarity and to embody because change 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.480 doesn't happen, right. We can know it. We can now 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.000 forgiveness is an act of self love. We can know 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.880 these things, but until we actually are able to root 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.800 in it, we don't. We can't transcend, right. We have 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.440 to pull forth that that higher knowing into us. So 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.680 when you're looking at the thing, the belief, the doubt, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.719 the first step is just noticing that it's an invitation. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:43.880 And as you said, again, we don't want to look 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.240 at it as a problem and it's something that we 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:49.080 have to fix. And I'm so broken because because that's 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:50.720 what happens when we try to fix it. From the ego, 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.479 you're just in a wrestling match with the same sonsciousness 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:59.720 that I create. We're like we we love love totally. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:04.840 But so realizing that okay, this is an invitation and 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.200 and that's essentially the choice, right, that is our power 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.680 of our will, which is our greatest power. We can 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:16.000 will the divine force that is within us, or we 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.560 can you know, continue to learn through the pattern and 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.160 will the ego, which again not bad, take as long 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.920 as we want, but noticing it as and this is 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.400 an invitation somehow. And then as soon as you begin 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.600 to switch that and change you know that inner dialogue 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.840 of whatever the story has been or life is happening 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.800 to me, you shift into empowerment. Essentially the transcendence can begin. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:46.600 And so realizing it's an invitation to expand even more? 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:52.320 Can you imagine even more into your brilliance? Um, And 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:57.040 then the second step is the inquiry. So the other 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.840 thing about the ego that I have found most helpful, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.400 and what I always like to offer, is that we 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.920 don't hold on to limitation for no reason. There's a 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:11.720 there's a payoff. Right, Everything in the frigan universe serves 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.120 a purpose, and so we just need to understand the 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.600 deeper purpose that it's serving, and we want to get 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.760 on board with the higher purpose. So the ego, because 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.439 it believes itself to be separate. It's the part that 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.800 you know, deviates from our wholeness and allows us to 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.360 co create. And that's great. We love it, we love 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:34.439 it's great, but it also is stuck in the constructs 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.679 of a linear world and therefore conditional world. So it's 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.600 obsessed with conditions. Right, I need that thing in order 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.760 to feel this. If I had that, then I'd be sued. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.920 If they did this, then I know I love me. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.880 So I like to call it to help switch. It 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.160 is the negotiator, and so just gently being aware of 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.839 not only how is my ego at play, not because 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.200 we tend to think that our like bondom beliefs are 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.840 that we're not worthy, but it's more so what the 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.760 ego is doing to negotiate its worth and or it's 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.480 conditional worth, or it's usually around love or safety, like 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.679 we think we have all these issues around money or 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.240 our body or our love or whatever. But it really 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:16.439 is quite simple and all those things are just their manifestations, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:21.080 you know of kind of like the more root core beliefs. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.360 So the roots, so the root core belief because I 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.120 have kind of believed and I think I still do 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.880 that my core beliefs are around here, I hear by affirmed, Well, yes, 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.960 but I think a lot of people's core beliefs are 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:41.400 does base around like I'm not good enough? So you're 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:46.080 saying and love and safety? What are we doing? So 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.840 I'm not good enough? So what do I have to 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.760 do to get the good enough? And that that's the 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.920 world of the ego. It's that love comes from outside 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.080 of us, safety comes from outside of us, everything comes 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:01.640 from outside of us. And therefore that's where limitations come from. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:06.360 And so just gently considering because we know we are 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.920 not the ego. We know it. I don't care where 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.120 you are and your spiritual bad there is a place 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.000 inside of you. I like mumbles some names. I'm like no, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:20.240 I was like, you know it well, but so so 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.560 not needing to make yourself wrong, but just taking that 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:29.480 gentle gaze of how is my ego um in negotiation? 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.160 So what does it believe that it has to do 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:37.080 in order to feel you know, um safe in the 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:41.120 world or whatever it is. And usually it's like around 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.760 approval or And so if you just look at the condition, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.920 I mean, I'm not I don't want to like, I 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.440 don't mean to be like. And now we're gonna talk 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:54.480 about your childhood, that sounds good. But even if if 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.480 you weren't even just to like give it a really 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.360 general like take a stab at it, like I have 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.040 to blank in order to blank, so or the ego 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.720 I have to perform in order to be loved. Well, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:11.880 she's I got it, baby luck. And it's been a 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.760 beautiful belief, like it's look what it's I mean, not 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.520 that you've created everything from that, but also yeah, it's 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.280 been a lot of it. And but that's what's so 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.400 beautiful and I think it's so interesting is there is 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:30.400 a gift in the wounding, Like there there you can 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.520 take that wounding and create beautiful things from it until 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:39.040 you can't, like, well, and it's not sustainable exactly because 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:43.960 when are you ever going to get it right? Yeah? No, no, 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.680 one can never make us feel love, thank God. Yeah, 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.920 and then you receive it, you what you think is love. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:55.200 You receive the for me, you know, using my own experience, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:59.080 I received all the success in adoration, and then it's 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.080 like turns on you and then it's like, well, if 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.760 it's not coming for me up to me from out there, 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:09.240 then then I feel empty and that is the invitation 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:14.119 then to to create it from somewhere else. And then yes, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.960 so you're saying, which I love this because I I'm 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.480 still in the understanding of creating it from the inside, 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.600 Like I still feel like, yeah, I mean that's true. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.760 I still feel like though the you know, we talked 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.359 about being connected to something bigger, do you still feel 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.480 like that's on Like when I think of that, I 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.680 still feel like that's on the outside of me. And 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.280 it's so interesting that you were doing that with your 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:46.439 hand was something bigger people can't people at see when 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.080 I was going on the right side of my head, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.560 it was like all my hand making a circle all 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.480 up in the air, and yeah, it does. It's very 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.240 that's a very childlike, I think thing for us to think, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.760 especially when we've been raised in religion and all the 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.320 kind of stuff, that it's still still that love is 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.920 on the outside of us, right, Yeah, even God all 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:10.000 of it everything. Yeah, but so then that third step 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.840 is the shift and then you want to just try 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.679 on what would be the perspective of my soul or 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.600 my greater knowing or I was called God g O 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.359 D because I feel like it's like don't say the 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.080 D word or like there's just like people don't like it. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.080 It's not trending. But like it doesn't mean we have 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.320 to be there in that moment. But when we when 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.680 we consider the soul and God, like all of these 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.200 things are for us to explore. I'm not like, this 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.720 is what your soul is and this is what God is. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:45.119 It's like it's really a beautiful um like dance and 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:49.160 exercise to just look at you're So if we're looking 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.800 at the soul, it's like who you have always been, 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:57.000 the essence that has been you throughout even just this 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.760 body in time, it is that self and the essence 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.240 that you feel maybe after breathwork or you could even 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.359 just ask if I had a soul, when do I 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.680 feel the essence of my soul? A lot of times 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.960 it's going to be in nature, in creativity, when it 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:16.119 is not attached outcome, when you are in that flow 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:21.679 of creation and really feeling into defining your soul for 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.520 yourself and but essentially for all of us. It is 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.800 our unconditional essence. It is a part of us that 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:32.520 has not been conditioned and therefore is you know, the 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.919 ethereal and is all loving and is all knowing. Just 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.800 taking like a soft consideration is how what would my 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.639 soul know to be true within that? So we start 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:47.159 to just shift and just ask. And another way that 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.439 I like, beyond the spiritual stuff, you can just say, 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.879 which my guides said to me once where I was, 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.160 they're always dragging like dragged me. It's like always the 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:00.080 best loving way. But they said, what is true on 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:04.439 your perceptions of lack? Or what is true when you 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.720 take your identity out? They said, They've told me that before. 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.520 They said, take yourself out of the equation? And I said, 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:15.800 what do you mean? So when we're looking at that 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:19.680 piece around I have to perform to be loved or 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:25.359 feel loved? What what would your soul or God say 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:30.680 or see about that? What is the higher truth? Well, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.600 I mean the first thing that comes to me is 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.679 that's what I am. I am love, So I can't 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.760 I don't have to perform to be anything. I am 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.640 the love I seek. I am the light I am 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:48.440 in reality, I am feeling the light that I am. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:52.440 When I am on stage, I am resonating truth so deeply. 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.400 I am feeling the reflection of all that I am. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:01.479 I am feeling the oneness that is. And that's so huge. 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:03.840 I think a lot of us have a hard time 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.120 letting that in because I think a lot of people 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.600 can relate to the I need to perform to receive 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.440 love like that is said. I mean, then look at 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.360 look at social media, look at everywhere that's all around us. 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:17.439 Of performance. In order to feel, you know, we have 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.480 to wear the mask in order to to be liked 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:25.080 and um. But then we do get into these places 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:28.639 where we for me it's stage. For some people that 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.760 might be meditation, it might be creating art where we 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:36.560 do drop into this deeper sense of self. And I 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:40.040 know for me, one of the most challenging pieces in 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.520 my life right now is allowing that to fully come 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.600 into play, like to feel, to really embody the joy 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.360 that that brings or sometimes and I think also that's 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.960 why I cry so much on stage. It's like, holy 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.680 sh it, It's like this overwhelming force of love that 0:21:57.880 --> 0:21:59.760 is joyful, and I'm like, I don't know what to 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.840 do with this, Like my nervous system doesn't know what 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.440 to do with it. I think people might get into 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.000 that space and almost resist the higher piece of them 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:13.560 because it's we've we've conditioned ourselves so deeply to feel 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:19.840 the suffering that that almost feels like baseline. Yeah. Yeah, 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:24.600 And because it's a linear well, first I want to 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.240 I'll go right back to the suffering, but before I forget, 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:31.119 my little brain a little hungry. Um. But those moments, 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:35.520 it's like how much is lean there? She's not? So 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:37.280 how could it be? You know what I mean? It's 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.800 like it is actually the most easiest thing is to 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:44.320 just be and to have that. You know. The other 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:47.240 thing I like to think of is like a references 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.960 when you think of how does your soul feel embodied? 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.520 You know, when we're and it may be in those moments. 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.160 It maybe when you're standing in front of a tree, 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.119 like and you're like basking in and you're like when 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.600 you have those moments where and you're so relaxed and 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.399 you're such in a state of being, that is our 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:12.119 natural state, and it's also the truth of every like 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.440 it's where truth lives, is where your soul lives. That 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.520 where it's where in tuition lives. It's like and our 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:22.520 ego is not there, and like and doesn't that give 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:28.840 us enough prove of you know, of how real that are? Are? Unreal? 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.680 Our suffering is if the present cannot hold it? How 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.440 because when you are fully present, your suffering is not 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:39.359 there because your ego isn't there, And so how real 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:42.800 can it be? But yes, you know, and even the 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:47.399 suffering is essentially the same. I have to I have 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.359 to be in lack in order to receive. I have 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:54.960 to be at love or you know, mostly love. Most 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.800 of love um or safety, right, like a sense of safety. 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.040 So it's just the other thing I like to think too, 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.280 about beliefs instead of taking ownership of them, because like 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:08.200 pain is nothing to take ownership of, it's something to feel. 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.600 We have to move through all of these things. But 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.600 it's just a linear concept, right, It's like, oh yeah, 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.359 I was like thinking that love came from other things 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.240 where I was believing in like this this linear perception 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.320