1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: gets going right now. We're going to dive into all 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: of the news with you, as we always do. 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Clay. 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: We've got a few things here, including Scott Bessant, the 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary, giving a bit of a reality check to 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: anybody who thinks that this administration does not know what 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: they are doing on the economy. The Conclave of Cardinals 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: is underway to elect a pope. Very important for those 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: who are members of the Catholic flock, but very interesting 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: to the media, I suppose because of all of the 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: well because it's one point five billion Catholics, and also 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: a lot of pageantry and ceremony and smoke coming out 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: of the chimney. To say whether the conclave has elected 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: a pope or not, I think they've vote a few times. 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Today. We're going to have Raymond Arroyo on this right. 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: We've got somebody who follow this, Yes, from Fox News, 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: follows this closely. He is joining us live from Rome. 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: Oh man, pretty cool. That's that's tough. That's tough duty. 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: You think he's I. 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Was as well. 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: First of all, you might. 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Escape is the second plate of Carbonara in order to 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: hang out with us. 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 5: This is the perfect story to be covering because you 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 5: really don't even have to You can't interview anybody, right, 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 5: I mean, the the all of the cardinals are locked 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: in the conclave. You just kind of sit and wait 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 5: for the white smoke to emerge from the Saint Peter's 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: chimney that they put in. Uh, this is going to 34 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 5: be fun to follow, Buck. I don't know if you 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 5: because you're far less flawed than I am when it 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 5: comes to gambling. Did you know that there is wagering 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 5: you can bet on who the next pope is going 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 5: to be? Twenty sounds million dollars has been wagered already 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 5: with people putting money out on the table on who 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 5: they think is going to be the next pope, which 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 5: is amazing and also probably not very saintly, but that 42 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 5: is going on right now. That is the number one 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 5: way to track the odds market from what's going on 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 5: in the conclavet because everything else is shut down. 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Now we've got that and a bunch of other stories 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: we're going to be getting to with you here, including 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: that there's been military strikes inside of Pakistan by India. 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: I know it's far away in countries we don't talk 49 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: about that much, but they're big countries and they have 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: nukes and they are now on the well, there's limited 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: hostilities going on since you'd call this an incursion, Clay, 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: this is just like the exercises during CIA analyst training. 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: We would have to come up with ways to assess 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: is this an escalation or is this a limited strike? 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: Is this going to result in crossing a red line? 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: And right now they've gone after non the Indian military 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: and Indian Air Force has gone after non military terrorist 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: training camps in Pakistan and they're saying this is quote 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: non escalatory. But you know, if you go up to 60 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: a guy in a bar and you slap him across 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: the face, you could say, hey man, that was non escalatory. 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: I didn't use a fist. Doesn't mean he's gonna agree 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: with you, right, So. 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 2: We got to see where this goes. Hopefully things calm 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: down there, because yeah, war is bad and nuclear war 66 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: is very bad. I don't think that's gonna happen. I 67 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: think this is all gonna calm down. But you know, people, 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: it's worth paying attention to, worth understanding that there are 69 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: hot spots that can crop up very quickly around the globe. 70 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: But Clay, I wanted to start with this, you know, 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: because I think we do a fair amount of high 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: fiving the team, so to speak, for the administration so 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: far doing a great job, which they are, and a 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: lot of members. I think we had a great conversation 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: with Senator Rampaul yesterday. I was really pleased to hear 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: him explain he's not opposed to all tariffs, but he 77 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: doesn't think that blankets tariff's you know. He wants it 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: targeted and precise. He understands we're not in some free 79 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: trade shangri la, you know, we're not in the Xenado 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: of free trade. But he also doesn't want things to 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: escalate unnecessarily. Anyway, we do a lot of good work 82 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: is being done. We want to tell you about that. 83 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: The administration wants to tell you about that. But we 84 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: also sometimes have to have a conversation when someone on 85 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: our team, so to speak, Team Republican comes up way 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: short and Clay and I have been looking into looking 87 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: into what's happened here with Senator Tillis in North Carolina. 88 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: We have a lot of North Carolina listeners. He made 89 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: it clear yesterday that he would not support ed Martin, 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: who was Donald Trump's nominee for US Attorney for Washington 91 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: d C. And so essentially he went and said, I 92 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: will not I will not go forward with this. I 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: will not be will to support Tom Tillis is not 94 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: willing to support Trump's US attorney for DC. This is 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: a really important position. This is not just something that 96 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: is another US attorney. Some US attorneys are more important 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: than others in terms of the kinds of cases politically 98 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: that they handle. But Clay before we dive into this, 99 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: this is what Senator Tillis, a Republican mind, you had 100 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: to say about why he will not allow Ed Martin, 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: Trump's nominee no longer former nominee, I guess for US 102 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: Attorney d C. 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Play two. 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 6: I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been 105 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 6: in prison for some period of time. 106 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 4: Whether it's thirty days or three years is debatable. 107 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 6: But I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the 108 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 6: building on January the sixth, and that's probably where most 109 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 6: of the friction was. Mister Martin did a good job 110 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 6: of explaining how there were people that probably got caught 111 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 6: up in it. 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: But they made the stupid decision to come through. 113 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 6: A building that had been breached and that the police 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 6: officers and others were saying stay away. So the difference 115 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 6: wasn't that they to be charged in my estimation, it's 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 6: by how much. 117 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 4: That's an argument I'm willing to have. 118 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 6: But we have to be very very clear that what 119 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 6: happened on January the sixth was wrong. 120 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: It was not prompted or created by other people to 121 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: put those people in trouble. 122 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 6: They made a stupid decision, and they disgraced the United States. 123 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: I've never heard Tom Tillis speak this angrily about anything 124 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: else with this kind of force. I am so ticked 125 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: off by this Clay He's saying that that basically taking 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: the position that because ed Martin worked as an attorney, right, 127 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: we all know about what happened with John Adams and 128 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: the British and the Boston massacre and defense Edmond worked 129 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: as an attorney on behalf of j six people who 130 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: were treated horrifically unfairly by the system, and now we 131 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: have a Republican senator blocking him from being US Attorney 132 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: Trump's pick in the maybe the most important seat in 133 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: all of d In all of the country. Yeah, I 134 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: think it's unacceptable, and I don't even know we've reached out. 135 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: We should say to Tom Tillis's office, Yeah, I want 136 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: him on the show. I want him on the show. 137 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: I want to have it out with him on this 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: January sixth. They needed to be punished more severely. 139 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 5: Well, look, I've donated money to the Defense Fund for 140 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: January sixth defendants. We've had Julie Kelly on the show, 141 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 5: probably more than almost any single guest. 142 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: Tom Tillis would say, you shouldn't be able to be 143 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: a US attorney play anywhere in the country, even though 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: you're a lawyer and you know a lot of excellent 145 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: things about you. 146 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: We don't have to get into that right now. 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, look, I mean I think that Tom Tillis 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 5: should come on the show. We have extended an invite 149 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: to him to explain this decision, and I'll just kind 150 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 5: of continue to hammer my perspective on this. President won 151 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: a victory landslide. Every all fifty states moved more conservative. 152 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 5: He won all seven battleground states, including North Carolina, by 153 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: a substantial amount. I'm confident that Trump is more popular 154 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 5: in North Carolina than Tillis's and this particular appointment, as 155 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 5: you just laid out, is very important relative to the 156 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: power that it wields. Trump is making Washington, d C. 157 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 5: Better in conjunction, honestly with Muriel Bowser, who showed up 158 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 5: for the White House event announcing that the draft would 159 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: be taking place there. Buck, I was just up in 160 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: a couple of months ago. I'm gonna be up. You're 161 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 5: gonna be up in June. I was just up two 162 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: weeks ago. I think that that DC is and you 163 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 5: lived there. I went to college there. We spent a 164 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 5: lot of time in the in the over the past 165 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 5: several decades. There they are making it safer. They are 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 5: starting to put violent criminals in prison. But make no mistake, 167 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 5: when Joe Biden came into office, they decided through the 168 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 5: US Attorney's Office in DC, that they were going to 169 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 5: drop almost all serious felony charges of a violent nature 170 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: to misdemeanors, except they were going to elevate a lot 171 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: of misdemeanors related to January sixth to felonies. So it 172 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 5: wasn't just that they went soft on crime. It's that 173 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 5: in this particular office they went soft on crime, on 174 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 5: actual danger that people faced in the day to day 175 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 5: lives in DC, while drastically over punishing people who found 176 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 5: themselves in any way affiliated with January sixth. Some, as 177 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 5: you pointed out, and we pointed on the show, just 178 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 5: people who walked inside open doors grandmas with selfie sticks 179 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 5: were being put in solitary confinement, being locked up for 180 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: potentially years and a DC goolag and nobody talked about it. 181 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: This appointment is very important. The idea that Tellus would 182 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 5: be saying, oh, January sixth was somehow Look, I'm not 183 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 5: defending January sixth, but in the context of how BLM 184 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: rioters and protesters were treated for months, January sixth was 185 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 5: very different treatment in d we see in other places, 186 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 5: and we need some semblance of justice to return. I 187 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 5: think that this is an easy decision ed Martin should 188 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: be in and I think it's shameful that there would 189 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: be a Republican senator stopping it from happening. 190 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: Frankly, I know that North Carolina is a competitive state, 191 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: and people will make the argument, oh, well, maybe Tillis 192 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: is you know the best we can do. No, it's 193 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: not Maine. You can do better than Tom Tillis. Because 194 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: this is a guy who doesn't know what time it is, 195 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: doesn't understand, or I should say, lacks the courage to 196 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: be in the fight the way that he needs to 197 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: be right now. His problem, apparently with Ed Martin is 198 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: that as an interim US Attorney, Martin opened up an 199 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: investigation into the DC hand l the DC US Attorney's 200 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: office handling of J six cases, and there were some 201 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: federal prosecutors who were fired during during that you know, 202 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: that period, and I think it all should have been fired. 203 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: I think that using your office to destroy American citizens 204 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: to make some kind of political point when they haven't done. 205 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Anything bad or really bad. You know, depends on who 206 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about here, right, Yeah, I mean, am. 207 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: I pro trespassing? No, I'm not pro trespassing. I think 208 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: you could get a fine, you know, it depends on who. Now, 209 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: are you able to punch cops in the face and 210 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: get away with it? No, unless you're a Democrat Biden voter, 211 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: then it's okay to punch cops in the face. 212 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: You just have to say you're doing it. For George Floyd. 213 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: We have all seen the way that this game was played, 214 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: and we are furious about it. And I think what 215 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: Tom till us to me, Clay, this is like somebody 216 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: who was, you know, supported like faucyite vaccine mandates. This 217 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: is a one and done for me. To stand in 218 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: the way of a of a solid choice from the 219 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: Trump administration to clean up the obvious weaponization of the 220 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: DCUs Attorney's office is outrageous. It's and I just hope 221 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: that people we got a lot of North Carolina listeners. 222 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: I hope they remember. I hope they spread the word 223 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: you can do better than Tom tillis some of the worst. 224 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: Hat tip our friend Jesse Kelly on this. He's totally right. 225 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: The worst Republican betrayals of the base come from Republicans 226 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: who are in red and sometimes very red states. 227 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: Yes, and they get away with it. I agree. 228 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 5: I mean, it's partly because when you get elected, people 229 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 5: don't really pay attention to what you do. 230 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: This is the truth. 231 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 5: When you win in a red state, and Jesse's been 232 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 5: on this for a while, primary turnout it's almost non existent. 233 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 5: We'll see what happens in the state of Texas because 234 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 5: there is probably going to be a huge red state 235 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 5: primary battle between John Cornyn and Ken Paxton and we 236 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 5: will see how exactly that all shakes out. But I 237 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: think there may well be Tillis challengers in North Carolina, 238 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: and I just for the life of me, I don't 239 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 5: understand how in the world this could have occurred, which 240 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 5: is why we've offered him an opportunity to come on. 241 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 5: It feels buck to me, very personal, as if there 242 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 5: is something that is not being said publicly that actually 243 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 5: is motivating this privately. Does that make sense to you 244 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 5: because arguing, hey, he was too lenient on Jan six 245 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 5: protesters and therefore I can't support him to be US 246 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 5: attorney when he's otherwise very well qualified doesn't add right. 247 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 5: It's you have to look at this from the perspective 248 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 5: of a quizzling, and it's not smart for the quizzling 249 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 5: to do this unless there's something where unless he thinks 250 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 5: that he's going to be able to just edge things. 251 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: He's up for reelection in twenty six. So but I 252 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: don't think anyone is. I don't think anyone cares about uh, 253 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: you know, like, I don't think this would be a 254 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: strike against it with any Republican in North Carolina or 255 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: even independent voters. 256 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 5: I don't understand how that would be even for his 257 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 5: own political viability. This doesn't add up to me because 258 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 5: it doesn't seem to me to be a significant enough 259 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 5: issue that it would motivate turnout either way. 260 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there might, There may be. There may be something 261 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: else that is at work here, something else we should 262 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: be aware of in this all right. 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There are, 289 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 5: like we said, many different things that I think are 290 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: occurring that are making Washington, DC better, And I do 291 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: think sometimes you need to shine a light as you 292 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: said on opposition but positive story here. I think the 293 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: real impact that's changing DC is workers have to go 294 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: into their offices now and for years since COVID shutdown, 295 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: nobody has been in the DC federal office buildings and 296 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,479 Speaker 5: it's a ghost town. In many of these blocks. Businesses 297 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 5: have shut up, shut up, shut down. If you are intant, 298 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 5: for instance, selling coffee, you're used to being able to 299 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 5: have federal workers come in and out of your buildings 300 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 5: on a regular basis. Heck, if you're selling hamburgers, Nobody 301 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 5: was going into any of these businesses. When I was 302 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 5: just back up in DC. It was a very noticeable 303 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: vibe shift in terms of just the walking foot traffic 304 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: on the streets. People are back in the district and 305 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: that matters because it helps to make things safer because 306 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 5: there's more people there who are not engaging in violent 307 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 5: crimes and virtually empty cities. And I think it's going 308 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: to lead to a very positive return for DC. And 309 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 5: I think Trump deserves some credit for this, and we 310 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 5: need to add more positivity to it by having a 311 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: guy in charge who could put violent criminals behind bars, 312 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 5: which is something that everybody who lives in DC honestly wants, 313 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 5: even if they may not be big time Trump supporters. 314 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 5: So it feels like a no brainer to me. And 315 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 5: again offers out to Tom Tillis, Senator from North Carolina 316 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 5: to come on the show and explain to you guys 317 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: why he's making the choice that he is. 318 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think he should because if he feels 319 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: that strongly about it, he should be willing to address 320 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: his constituents. In part because, like I said, we have 321 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: a lot of listeners in North Carolina as well as 322 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: across the country, and I want him to explain why 323 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: somebody working for the rights of Jay six defendants makes 324 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: them not okay to be. 325 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: A US attorney? What is that? 326 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: Think about the scumbags that Democrats and high profile Democrat 327 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: lawyers and you know will work on behalf of Democrats 328 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: have just I know you're gonna say, it's not all Democrats, 329 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: pretty much is They've raised a million dollars for the 330 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: Luigi Defense Fund. Okay, but now we're drawing the line 331 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: at Ed Martin for US attorney, he would have been 332 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: very effective. This is a this is a very disappointing 333 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: moment here for those. 334 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Of us who care about this stuff. 335 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: All right, Alaska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Texas, Wyoming, just 336 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: some of the states across the nation that have a 337 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: sovereign wealth fund. If you're a resident of those states, 338 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: you know all about the benefits of establishing such a fund. 339 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: Case in point, Alaska's plan is reported to have more 340 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: than seventy billion dollars in assets. On a national case. 341 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: There are more than a few folks out there who 342 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: think that our nation has an asset that could be 343 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: worth as much as one hundred and fifty trillion dollars. 344 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: This endowment, so to speak, so large could pay off 345 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: our national debt four times over. Why has it been 346 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: kept secret? Well, thanks to a new Supreme Court decision, 347 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: President Trump could soon release it to the public. 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He was interim 358 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: US Attorney in DC, and they wanted to get him 359 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: voted in on a permanent basis. And Tillis said, nope, 360 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: you're too nice to j six defendants to Ed Martin, 361 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: and so here here we are, I can see are 362 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 2: like I said, all along a lot of North Carolina listeners, 363 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: and I'm not a surprise they are unhappy with what 364 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: the senator who's supposed to represent them has done. Here 365 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: we have Sean in Asheville, North Carolina, where my some 366 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 2: of my in laws live. 367 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: What's going on, Sean. 368 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 8: Hey Man, thank you for taking my call, just you know, 369 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 8: steal with Kevin from Helene here. 370 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 371 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: How is it? How is it there now? 372 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: Sorry to cut you off at how is it for 373 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: people in the Asheville area? How much supporter are you getting? 374 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 5: Is there enough help in the Trump era so far? 375 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 8: I think it is better now than initially. I mean 376 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 8: the first couple of weeks was like you're chaos. No 377 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 8: one was doing anything. My local towel officials did absolutely nothing. 378 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 8: I mean we were without water like three weeks. They 379 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 8: had no distribution centers, they didn't come around with loud 380 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 8: speakers in the police cars. And I live in a 381 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 8: very small town just north of Asheville. None of that 382 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 8: was happening. But then things started to open up a 383 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 8: little bit better. It's been better since Trump has gotten in. 384 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 8: Actually have gotten some actual response from them after it 385 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 8: came to light that maybe if you had a Trump 386 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 8: sound in your yard that they you know, they turn away. 387 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 8: But I mean, as I look out my front wind, 388 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 8: I have a pile of root balls. Because you can't 389 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 8: haul those off for like two thousand pounds apiece. I 390 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 8: can't pick them up and get them down of the roadway. 391 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 8: And well it's been you know. They keep saying, well, 392 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 8: we'll get back to you if we can help you 393 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 8: with that. And I'm you know, thirty thousand dollars into 394 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 8: grading equipment, trying to get these things out of here, 395 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 8: and still no help. So it's coming, but it's very slow. 396 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, hopefully people are listening in the Trump team 397 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 5: and they are going to continue to give you guys resources. 398 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: But I wanted to know how things were going there. 399 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 5: Thank you for that feedback. Now you wanted to tell 400 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: us also about Tom Tillis, Yeah, you know, and. 401 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 8: I've already called his office. I have been a long 402 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 8: time supporter of Tillis, but I can't understand the logic. 403 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not an attorney, but my understanding is 404 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 8: is that every person is innocent to proven guilty, and 405 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 8: they have the right to legal counsel, which this attorney 406 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 8: provided to them. I don't think it's the attorney's responsibility 407 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 8: and you guys can straighten out. I'm from Rome. I 408 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 8: don't think that attorney has to decide, Oh, I can 409 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 8: only represent a person that's going to fall on this 410 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 8: side or that side. Their job is to represent that 411 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 8: person to the best of their abilities within the legal 412 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 8: specifications and the parameters. 413 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: So yes, we agree. 414 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 8: He's I don't know what he knickers in a ward for, 415 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 8: but I'm certainly extremely disappointed. And I've already called his 416 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 8: office and let him know that, you know, no more 417 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 8: he must be. The only logic I can come to 418 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 8: is he's part of the swamp. 419 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you for the call. Is take a couple 420 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: more of these calls here in North Carolina. But you 421 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 5: and I, it just doesn't add up to me. And 422 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: this is why I would like him to come on 423 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 5: the show and explain there has to be something else 424 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 5: other than this that is truly motivating the decision. 425 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: Remember remember when Mitt Romney was marching with a mask 426 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: on outside outside behind you with his mask on, he 427 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: was like, I'm here because black lives matter. It's like, really, Mid, really, 428 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: this is what it's come to with you. You're part 429 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 2: of the BLM march with your mask on. Really yes, 430 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: you know, and it turned out we learned who mid 431 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: Rodney really was. 432 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: So yeah, no, I mean, and maybe it's just that 433 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 5: Dave in Outer Banks, North Carolina, what's your take? 434 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 9: Hey, great show, guys, Miss Rush, But you guys are 435 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 9: doing a great job. My take and Tillis, as I've 436 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 9: called his office. It took me two days to get 437 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 9: through and I spoke to spoke to his one of 438 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 9: those people going to get a response. But I want 439 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 9: to remind you guys that the North Carolina Republican Party 440 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 9: censored Tom Tillis in twenty twenty three for his banking 441 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 9: of g LGBTQ plus rights, immigration and gun violence pallaces. 442 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 9: He was back in the red the red Flag law, 443 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 9: and he was against moving military funds, military construction funds 444 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 9: from matt to the building or of the border wall. 445 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 9: We have never been, Tilli, says my wife, and I 446 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 9: only voted for him because President Trump becked him and 447 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 9: said he had turned a corner. Well, I think he's 448 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 9: going to turn around and has gone back to his 449 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 9: little ways. He doesn't show up at our conventions, he 450 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 9: never comes to the eastern portion of North Carolina, and 451 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 9: we're through with him. 452 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: Do you think you might get primaried. 453 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 9: We're looking for somebody. 454 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: I figured you might be. Well, you know, you're putting 455 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: the word out to a lot of people listening right now. 456 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some exceptional patriot out there in the 457 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: state of North Carolina who may want to give them 458 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: better representation in the Senate. Sharon in Raleigh, North Carolina, 459 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: you're up next. 460 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: Hi, Joy, listen to your show. And I just wanted 461 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: to voice the same sentiments that the gentleman just basically stated. 462 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: Mister Chillis sends out emails to his constituents and asked 463 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: about how he doing, how he wants to you know, 464 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: how we think he needs to proceed. And I feel 465 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: what most everybody's probably given him the indication that we 466 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: want him to support mister Trump. And as you stated earlier, 467 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: I think this is to do with the upcoming re 468 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: election issue, and I feel like he needs to reconsider 469 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: his position. And I'm hoping I called him up the message. 470 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: I've not heard back from him, and I've also told 471 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: him I think he needs to call your show. He 472 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: needs to voices why why he needs to stands this 473 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 3: way if as constituents we need to understand, but what 474 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: you stated, it makes no sense basically because anybody that 475 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: supported Trump is aware of the January sixth issue, and 476 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: like you said, it really just doesn't Uh, it's not 477 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: logical for his dease it. 478 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: It feels like it feels a bit sharing to me, 479 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: like moral preening or some kind of just vain show 480 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: voting maneuver. I don't get it. I mean, and maybe 481 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 2: he thinks it'll do better for him in re election somehow, 482 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: but that's a political calculation that I can't square. I 483 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: don't see that. So to me, it just feels like 484 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 2: it just feels like really bad judgment. I think that's 485 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: the easiest way to put it. Thank you for calling in, Sharon. 486 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: We'll take one more here. Alan in eastern North Carolina. 487 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: What's going on? 488 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, I've always thought of Tom Tillis as a Rhino, 489 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 10: but I covered I used to work in the local 490 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 10: news here and I covered him when he was first 491 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 10: running for the Senate. At the time, it was held 492 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 10: by a Democrat his seat and so people were excited 493 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 10: about him. 494 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 11: But he was a John McCain Republican. John McCain came 495 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 11: here and campaigned for him, and it just seems like 496 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 11: ever since he's been in there, he's been that opposition 497 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 11: with Trump on a lot of things, even though he's 498 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 11: changed his vote on dozens of things. 499 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, thank you, thank you. I just 500 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: don't get it. 501 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: And again, open invite to Tom to to come on 502 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 5: and explain this guy. Ed Martin is already the acting 503 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 5: director of the office, so he's already doing the job. 504 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 5: It feels personal to me, and sometimes senators have personal 505 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 5: conflicts with individuals that otherwise would be confirmed. That's not 506 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 5: necessarily uncommon. But the rationale that he has provided so 507 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 5: far to me is not compelling as to why Ed 508 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: Martin shouldn't be able to get this job. And again, 509 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 5: this is a very important job when it comes to 510 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 5: who's in charge of justice in Washington, d C. He's 511 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 5: come in and tried to clean up the office. He's 512 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 5: fired a bunch of people that he thinks are two 513 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 5: left wing in their prosecutorial basis. 514 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: I think here's a good data point to add into this. 515 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: They made damn sure that every j sixter k stayed 516 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: in the DC US Attorney's docket because they didn't want to. 517 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: They didn't want him to get a fair trun Yes, right, 518 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: So what does that tell you They knew that it 519 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: was like the legal wood chipper for anybody who had 520 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: been been involved with Trump j six, any of that. Well, 521 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 2: clearly there's a problem there when the when the weaponized 522 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: Justice Department, or rather when the weaponization of justice is 523 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: so consolidated that they clearly would rather have everybody who 524 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: was I think there was not a single change of 525 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: venue Clay was there. I'm not aware of a single 526 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: change of venue out of the district of Columbia. It 527 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: was not almost because they knew, Yeah, they knew that. 528 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: It was just it was a an assembly line of 529 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: destroying and humiliating Trump voters who were at the Capitol 530 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: on January sixth. That was the whole point of what 531 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: the US Attorney's Office was doing. And all the people 532 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: who got fired deserved it. 533 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 5: And by the way, I said, and I still would 534 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 5: echo this, they need to give everybody who gets charged 535 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 5: with federal crimes the opportunity to take those cases to 536 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 5: their actual location, that is your your particular domisi. You 537 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 5: shouldn't be able to prosecute someone in Washington, d C. 538 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 5: Without them being able to remove it federally to their 539 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 5: local jurisdiction, That to me, would be one way to 540 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 5: try to take away some of the power that Democrats 541 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 5: have embedded in the DC court system in general. But 542 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 5: in the meantime, here's a question for you, and maybe 543 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 5: some of you can find them. Did any nominee that 544 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: Joe Biden put forward not get confirmed by Democrats? Did 545 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 5: this happen anywhere to Joe Biden? Did any major office 546 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 5: in the Department of Justice that Joe Biden wanted an 547 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 5: appointment confirmed? Did any Democrat senator stand up and say no, 548 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 5: I won't allow this. Elections this is when Barack Obama 549 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 5: got right have consequences, and one of those consequences is 550 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: the president should get to pick the people that he 551 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 5: wants to represent him in important offices. 552 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: I'm also says I don't like this blue slip thing, 553 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: which I know un has said he's going to he's 554 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: going to, uh, you know, agree to. This is just 555 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: when the Senate Judiciary Committee has this practice of making 556 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: sure that the senators in the home state they get 557 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: a blue piece of paper to put their opinion of 558 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: the nominee on. 559 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: And so you you know, why do we do this? 560 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna tell you something the Democrats get through 561 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: their communist left wing legislate from the bench people under 562 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: the guise of remember Tom Tillis voted for Merrick Garland. 563 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: I know, like Merrick Garland is okay with me, aok Merrick. 564 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: But if this is the thing, we always get screwed 565 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: by this game of oh well, we have this idea 566 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: that there's gonna be a you know, we're gonna cool 567 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: things down with the blue slip process. We should be 568 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: we should be, you know, letting the freight train loose here. 569 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: We should not be slowing things down for these Democrats, 570 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: not now, not after what. 571 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: Happened amen opening in. 572 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 5: We'll see if Senator tell Us wants to come on 573 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 5: and explain his decision making. In the meantime, Israeli residents 574 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 5: continue to need our help. For more than a year 575 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 5: and a half now, the country has been in a 576 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 5: near constant state of high alert. 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We've got a bunch of different 600 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 5: reactions obviously pouring in not a surprise to the Tom 601 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 5: Tillis decision and how it does not make a great 602 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 5: deal of decision. Here's Mike from North Carolina one oh 603 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: six point one FM talk radio. Uh here's his reaction 604 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 5: as well. 605 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 12: Listen, hey Clayon Buck Mike here in North Carolina, and 606 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 12: I gotta say, I am super ashamed to hear Tom 607 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 12: Tillis take that position. 608 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: And I think I speak. 609 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 12: For a lot of like minded, level headed people here 610 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 12: in North Carolina that he will now be the Senator 611 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 12: for much longer. He's not going to win the next 612 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 12: the next selection, No way. 613 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: We'll see these incumbents in red states. 614 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: Sorry, they somehow managed to hang on. 615 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 5: The amount of money that's going to be spent against 616 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 5: him from Democrats is monumental because the board is not 617 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 5: that great for them. Again in twenty twenty six, and 618 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 5: now that we have opened up a three Senate lead 619 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 5: and have the tie break, that means Democrats would have 620 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 5: to flip four different seats, which frankly, I just I 621 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 5: don't think is possible in twenty twenty six. Now, Unfortunately, 622 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 5: if you look at the Senate map, there have been 623 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: individuals out there that had good chances to win Brian 624 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 5: Kemp and Georgia, for instance, the current governor who's been 625 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 5: very popular, decided not to run for the Senate. So 626 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 5: flipping Democrat seats, whether it's in Michigan, whether it's in Georgia, 627 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 5: whether it's in some of these places, Arizona where in 628 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 5: theory there may I believe be opportunities to flip seats. 629 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 5: May not be as easy as we had hoped. New 630 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 5: Hampshire another location there. I mean, the map is not 631 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 5: bad for Republicans, but the candidate quality is not elite 632 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 5: so far in terms of who's going to be able 633 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 5: to win those treasons. 634 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: What always ends up happening is you say, how could 635 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: this state have such a bad incumbent Republican? They should 636 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: be able to get a great and then people say, oh, 637 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: he's better than the guy who tried to beat him, 638 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: or the gall tried to beat them last time. She 639 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: was even bigger rhino. Okay, well, how do we fix this? 640 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 2: I just think it's an easy answer. 641 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 5: And look, if I were in the Senate and a 642 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 5: Republican president won election, I would unless it was something 643 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 5: totally outlandish in terms of a nominee, I would sign 644 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 5: off on all the presidents dominations and the guy is 645 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 5: already the acting US attorney. Some of you may be 646 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 5: better proceeds, certainly, some of you out there listening right 647 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 5: now are better procedurely than I am on this. Can 648 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 5: the president? How long can someone be an acting US attorney? 649 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: A long time? Other a long time? 650 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 4: Right? 651 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 5: So, if it doesn't become official, what is the timeframe 652 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 5: under which this gentleman ed Martin would have to be removed? 653 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 5: And also are there any recess appointment opportunities if Trump 654 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 5: wanted to make him? I'm not sure again how this 655 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 5: works for US attorneys. Some of you out there are 656 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 5: procedural experts when it comes to issues like this. I 657 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 5: haven't seen it written or talked about, but I do 658 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 5: wonder if Tillis refuses to change his opinion on this, 659 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 5: what restrictions are in play here such that and options 660 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 5: that the president would have if he wants this individual 661 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 5: at Martin to be and remaining in the office. 662 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: Hees are already in Clay. You have us at the 663 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 1: top of the next hour. 664 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: What incredible journey are you going to be leading us 665 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: on here into the world of news, analysis, commentary and 666 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: all things. 667 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: Did you see Buck that Disney. I want to have 668 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: some fun with this. 669 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 5: Disney has decided to build a new theme park in 670 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 5: Abu Dobby, Okay, Middle East. Remember they were angry at 671 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 5: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis over the so called Don't Say 672 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 5: Gay Bill. They filed a lawsuit over at everything else. 673 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 5: Were you aware Buck that in Abu Dhabi, if you 674 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 5: are gay, you can be beheaded. 675 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: I was aware, Yes, I was aware. 676 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 5: Seems a little bit tougher than kindergarten. First second, third 677 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 5: graders can't get taught sexuality related issues. I think this 678 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 5: is a really interesting moment, and I'm curious if people 679 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 5: are going to hold a company like Disney accountable over 680 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 5: how their policies apply around the world versus in this country. 681 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: We'll have some fun with that. 682 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 2: More head