WEBVTT - How Alcoholism Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to stuff you should know Friendhouse Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles

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<v Speaker 1>w Chuck Bryant, and Jerry, and Chuck's got a noise machines.

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<v Speaker 1>It was could turn into like Morning Zoo type episode. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna use it. It's a lame one. It

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty lame. Like is it marked? What does it do?

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<v Speaker 1>How many different functions does they have? Chuck down two

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<v Speaker 1>three four one two three four five, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. Nice job. You just use multiplications, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>like I said when I first sat down, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even have a fark sound. So how good of a

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<v Speaker 1>noise machine could it be? How does it not? It's

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<v Speaker 1>got a burp? I mean they make sound machines. They

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<v Speaker 1>just have that sound. Well, yeah, it's called a whoopie cushion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's a machine though probably not. Okay, device,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I said this stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>in case you hadn't figured it out. Well, someone just

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled upon this and they're horrified. They turned it off

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<v Speaker 1>a good minute ago. Yeah, and we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>alcoholism and there's nothing more fun than that, right, This

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<v Speaker 1>one should be a laugh riot. Right, Well, you can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely perk things up with your little noise machine over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that. Uh, so alcoholism, Chuck turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>in researching this, um, we should say, let us shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to some previous episodes that really tie into this totally.

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<v Speaker 1>We did prohibition. Colin turns out America really loves to drink.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one episode we did addiction, Yeah, good one. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did one on rehab yep, another good one. Um. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you want to count like beer, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the booze ones or I think we did one on moonshine,

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<v Speaker 1>we did one on and Whiskey Runners. Do we do

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<v Speaker 1>one on Whiskey Runners? We ended up doing like two

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<v Speaker 1>somehow on Whiskey Runners. Yeah? What else? Oh, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there are others, but I think the ones on addiction

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<v Speaker 1>and rehab definitely factor in. Indeed so um. In running

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<v Speaker 1>across this though, I was reminded that yes, America loves drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>the world does, but not necessarily. I saw a statistic

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<v Speaker 1>that blew me away. Sixties six percent of the human

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<v Speaker 1>beings over age. I believe fifteen worldwide have not had

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<v Speaker 1>a drink in the last twelve months, according to a

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<v Speaker 1>major survey like World Health Organization Type level survey. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember where I saw it because I saw so

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<v Speaker 1>many different statistics here there, but like, the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the population of the Earth has not had a drink

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<v Speaker 1>in the last twelve months. Interesting. Yeah, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting too. And of course there's entire countries that

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<v Speaker 1>are basically teetotally, yeah, And there are entire countries that

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<v Speaker 1>are drunk, right, so, UM in America is definitely one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Right, America loves to drink. We drink very regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>At other countries, they don't drink necessarily during the week,

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<v Speaker 1>but they really plow into it on the weekends. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this falls, it turns out, falls under

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<v Speaker 1>this umbrella called UM. Alcohol use disorders, binge drinking, alcohol abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>and alcoholism three different things they are. Although you could

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<v Speaker 1>say that binge drinking is a type of alcohol abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a behavioral pattern drinking behavior UM. But yes, alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>abuse is not necessarily alcoholism, and neither has binge drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Alcoholism is its own thing. Yeah, alcohol abuse is if

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<v Speaker 1>you are drinking, if there's a problem with your drinking. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's affecting your school, your work, your personal life, your family,

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<v Speaker 1>your friends. You could be an alcohol abuser. Um. Alcoholism

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<v Speaker 1>is a chronic disease where you are physically dependent on alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to drink, You've got to have that drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you start drinking, you have a hard time stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>You develop a tolerance for drinking, so you need to

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<v Speaker 1>drink more. And if you stop drinking, you suffer withdrawal symptoms.

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<v Speaker 1>That's alcoholism, right, And you suffer withdrawal symptoms because, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you've become physically dependent on it. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how in this episode. But yes, alcohol abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>that just means you need to get your your act

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<v Speaker 1>together big time. Sure. Alcoholism a chronic disease. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>means you need medical help. And and beyond medical help

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<v Speaker 1>psychological help, you need treatment. Yeah. You're probably not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do it on your own now,

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<v Speaker 1>and with alcohol abuse you may need treatment as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's different. Uh yeah, Yeah. I don't think we should

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<v Speaker 1>chase people away from seeking treatment alcohol abusers and not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily alcoholics. I think probably if you're a serious abuser

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<v Speaker 1>of alcohol, you probably feel like an alcohol like in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways. Yeah. I mean, if you woke

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<v Speaker 1>up this morning and you don't remember where you were

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<v Speaker 1>last night for five hours, abuser of alcohol, you may

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<v Speaker 1>want to you know, check into that a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>or you may not. Well, yeah, and it depends. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people think that, um, if they

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<v Speaker 1>if they are an abuser of alcohol, that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to just stop entirely for the rest of their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily. I mean back in nineteen yes, that was

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<v Speaker 1>probably the case. These days, there's been a different approach

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<v Speaker 1>to managing alcoholism and alcohol abuse to where you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to abstain, although it's still like the model.

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<v Speaker 1>And again it depends on the person. Some people can

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Um. Some people can drink socially, uh and

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<v Speaker 1>never have a problem. Some people can have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>go back to just drinking socially. And some people need

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<v Speaker 1>to just they just can't have it anymore. And they

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<v Speaker 1>know that, you know. And the key is to find

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<v Speaker 1>out what kind of person you are, you know, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>by stopping, that's how you find out. Probably, so you

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens when you stop, Yeah, exactly. Uh. There

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<v Speaker 1>are more than seventeen million Americans who are either alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>or abuse alcohol more men than women, um, apparently ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent to three to five. And uh, this says that

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<v Speaker 1>if you have fourteen or more drinks a week as

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<v Speaker 1>a man, or seven or more drinks per week as

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, you are at risk for alcoholism. And do

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<v Speaker 1>you know why because the National Institutes of Health themselves

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<v Speaker 1>define moderate drinking as fourteen drinks a week or less

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<v Speaker 1>for a man, in seven drinks a week or less

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<v Speaker 1>for a woman. Like, that's moderate drinking in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States as far as like a couple of beers a night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems about right to me. It does. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you are um enraged by this gender disparity, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's all just calm down because it has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with uh usually body type and metabolism. Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like, little lady, do you only get

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<v Speaker 1>half the drinks because we're drinking the rest I've done,

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<v Speaker 1>We're drinking your share. None some ladies that can drink

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<v Speaker 1>me under the table. Sure, but it's the average, that's right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It is more prevalent among younger folks than older people

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Uh, and it will touch many people's lives,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not you or an abuser an alcoholic. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that more than Americans have been exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>alcoholism somewhere in their family. Um, I'm surprised it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a little more than that. I was surprised by that

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<v Speaker 1>statistic too. I wonder, um, this this article is fairly old.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to go through an update some of the stats.

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<v Speaker 1>But UM, I'm wondering if if that's more or less

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<v Speaker 1>these days, because it does seem low. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about your extended family, because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>say idiot family, and and that's I mean, that brings

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<v Speaker 1>up you know, one of the things. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons everybody's like you shouldn't be an alcoholic. Alcoholism is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem is not just because of what it does

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<v Speaker 1>to the individual, but because the effects that has on

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<v Speaker 1>people who are raised by alcoholics. Yeah, you're I think

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<v Speaker 1>four times more likely to become an alcoholic if one

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<v Speaker 1>of your parents is an alcoholic. Yeah, you also are

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to experience anxiety, depression, behavioral problems. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of programs that are geared towards helping

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<v Speaker 1>children of alcoholics cope. Yeah, my grand paternal grandfather was

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<v Speaker 1>a nasty drunk. Uh. He died when I was like five,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't know him very well. But um as

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<v Speaker 1>went with my father. My father like didn't drink. So

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<v Speaker 1>it can go both ways. You know, you might become

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<v Speaker 1>an alcoholic or you might be like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that was your dad's dad. Yeah, I'm not touching that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I don't think my dad. Maybe he drinks

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit here and there now, but he pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much was just like now, Like, I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>a household withou no alcohol because my mom didn't drink either,

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<v Speaker 1>So I wonder what happened to me. I went to college.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I was gonna say, I don't have anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in my family who with a history like that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this though, and going through the adoption process,

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<v Speaker 1>it really makes you take a look at your own

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<v Speaker 1>lineage and not be super precious about it. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you pick out tolerances of what you will accept

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<v Speaker 1>in birth parents, like if they have disease or mental

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<v Speaker 1>illness or alcoholism or drug abuse and there, and you

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<v Speaker 1>start to think about your own family and extended family.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, wait a minute, there's alcoholism and drug

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<v Speaker 1>abuse and mental illness and suicide attempts, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>you think, oh, well, it's not like my seed is

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<v Speaker 1>anything special, you know. So I thought it was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh does a growing experience. It was a growing experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, some people, like we said, can drink and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't become a problem as an abuser or as

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<v Speaker 1>an alcoholic. Some people do and they think there are

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<v Speaker 1>give me a combination of factors including genetic, physiological, psychological,

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<v Speaker 1>and social. Yeah, the genes they haven't. They don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the gene. They're pretty sure that there is a genetic link. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, surely this article is old enough that if

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<v Speaker 1>I just do a search now I'll find well, they

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<v Speaker 1>know this gene and this gene are involved. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't find any genes named. The reason why they think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a genetic link is thanks to twins studies. They

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<v Speaker 1>found that alcoholism is more prevalent among identical twins than

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<v Speaker 1>among fraternal twins, which suggests that there is a genetic

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<v Speaker 1>component to it. And they also think that genes play

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<v Speaker 1>a role in for for like an individual whose um

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure circuit is like just really highly tuned. Ye, So physiologically,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're dope, I mean just goes off the charts

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<v Speaker 1>more than someone else's might, then you might be more

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<v Speaker 1>at risks. Yeah, you're gonna be like, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that again, Give me another, give me another beer?

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<v Speaker 1>Right whatever or ten? Right? Yeah. Well yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing we didn't necessarily point out early on, is

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<v Speaker 1>an alcoholic there's no stopping. Like stopping equals like falling

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<v Speaker 1>over and blacking out or being arrested or um running

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<v Speaker 1>out of um alcohol in the entire house and not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to like find their keys to go get more. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's like a daily thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>there are alcoholics who drink every night and don't drink

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<v Speaker 1>too blackout proportions, um, but that certainly can happen. Uh Psychologically, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you suffer from depression or if you don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>very good about yourself, you have low self esteem, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably be more likely to develop alcoholism as a drinker.

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<v Speaker 1>And then socially, of course, Uh, we talked to I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we've done one just on pure pressure, but

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it a lot. Yeah, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big reason why kids will uh start drinking and then

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<v Speaker 1>factor in what they see around them every day, having

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<v Speaker 1>advertisements and TV and movies like whatever, Bill or whatever. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like bud Light, like they put together

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<v Speaker 1>a whole town that's just like one big party all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, fueled by by light. Yeah. Man, And then

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<v Speaker 1>like these new absolute ads that are's just like these

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<v Speaker 1>crazy like eyes wide shut parties and everybody's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so incredibly rich and glamorous and having like like

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<v Speaker 1>they're just so out of control having a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're also clearly like snorting ecstasy or something too.

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<v Speaker 1>But like it's an absolute ad, you know. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like fourteen, you're like, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>at that party. As a matter of fact, maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>I open this bottle of absolute right here and invite

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<v Speaker 1>a few friends or that party will start in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>They definitely said to the wrong message, And I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that this stuff is allowed and not a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I guess I can't do anything. There are

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<v Speaker 1>regulations for alcohol advertisements, but yes, you can't. You can't

0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:19.360
<v Speaker 1>suggest that alcohol is fun. You like, you might have

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<v Speaker 1>to rethink every campaign we've ever done. Uh, some signs

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<v Speaker 1>that you may have be an alcoholic is if you

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to eat anymore, you don't really care

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<v Speaker 1>about food, if you drink alone, that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>big ones. They say. If you're lying about your drinking

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<v Speaker 1>or secretly drinking. Um, that's a big one. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling you know your family like have stopped, have stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're mixing the vodka with orange juice in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got like a bad sign. Yeah, very bad signs.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna say, you got like booze stashed

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<v Speaker 1>around the house. Uh. And then if you're drinking to

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<v Speaker 1>forget your problems, which I think that's why a lot

0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of people drink. If you're unhappy when you're not drinking

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<v Speaker 1>and super touchy and irritable, or if you're suffering from

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<v Speaker 1>those blackouts, if you're blacking out a lot. Then although

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol efficts some people differently, I'm not a blackouter. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I've had times where I've had way too

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<v Speaker 1>much to drink, I never really black out. But some

0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.520
<v Speaker 1>people black out pretty easily. So that might be a

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<v Speaker 1>sign that alcohol affects you differently. You might want to

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<v Speaker 1>take a look. Yeah, and that's another argument in favor

0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:39.480
<v Speaker 1>of genetics. It's people experience things differently, you know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are going to dive into your body, the

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<v Speaker 1>body of the alcoholics right after this message, So chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>The drink has been taken. Um. And the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happens when it hits the gut as it starts

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<v Speaker 1>getting absorbed. Well, the first thing that happens is it

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<v Speaker 1>says here I am, and it starts irritating your stomach. Lining. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny that that. It's not funny. But like you

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<v Speaker 1>take an alcohol in your body, and your body immediately

0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like, no, it's not like your body doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>the alcohol, right right. It starts trying to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of it in every way possible as soon as it

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<v Speaker 1>enters your body. Yeah. So alcohol is a poison start with,

0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.600
<v Speaker 1>but your body metabolizes it into an even worse poison. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it wants to get rid of it immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>so which is why you vomit sometimes. That's right. It

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<v Speaker 1>is absorbed in the stomach and the other is absorbed

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<v Speaker 1>in the small intestine. And depending what you're drinking, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be absorbed quicker or more slowly. So like

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<v Speaker 1>vodka will be absorbed faster than beer because vodka has

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<v Speaker 1>a higher alcoholic content. That's right. It's a concentration of

0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:20.720
<v Speaker 1>alcohol higher than beer. That's right. When you go, when

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<v Speaker 1>your body starts to metabolize it, Um, about ten as

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<v Speaker 1>removed in urine and breath by the kidneys and lungs,

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<v Speaker 1>and then your liver takes care of the rest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes takes a beating in the process. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because again it's a toxin. It's also a carcinogen. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that? I found that out researching this um.

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<v Speaker 1>And as your lungs are or as your liver is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to just get rid of all this stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>metabolize it and break it down into other parts. Um,

0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you're you're drinking more and more and more, which can

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<v Speaker 1>kill you, Like in a night, it can kill you

0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 1>can die very easily from consuming too much alcohol in

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<v Speaker 1>a single sitting. Yeah, apparently they have that quantified um

0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:11.000
<v Speaker 1>is your blood alcohol content or blood alcohol concentration goes up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you drink faster than your liver is able

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<v Speaker 1>to metabolize it and process the alcohol, which results in

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting drunker and drunker, right, Um, but after you

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<v Speaker 1>get to a blood alcohol content of point three five um,

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<v Speaker 1>two point five percent, which I guess is like if

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<v Speaker 1>you just take any and like a cube excent a

0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.920
<v Speaker 1>leader of blood point three of that would be alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like a lot. Well, that's what puts you

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<v Speaker 1>in an alcohol induced coma, So I would think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. So up to a half of a percent,

0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you're you're only at risk of a coma. After a

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<v Speaker 1>half of a percent, you're facing death. Like Alexander the Great.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh did he die from alcohol poison? Allegedly he

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<v Speaker 1>did from a wine drinking contest. That's never a good

0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.679
<v Speaker 1>idea food and drinking contest in general. We did one

0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.480
<v Speaker 1>on those on food contests, but I don't think those

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.920
<v Speaker 1>are ever a good idea. No, you know who else

0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.840
<v Speaker 1>does it? Ryan Reynolds hates eating contests? Oh really? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What did he make a stand? Like? Uh, just a

0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.159
<v Speaker 1>social media stand? Probably? No. He wrote a essay in

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<v Speaker 1>the Huffington Post about how just disgraceful and what a

0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.239
<v Speaker 1>waste it is. It's just it's such an arrogant thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do in eating contest while people are starving. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you would love this essay and he put a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of his six pack. Abs said, plus, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>look like this, bam uh. Let's talk about the brain,

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<v Speaker 1>because it definitely affects your brain. Specifically, it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to alter the levels of your neurotransmitters, and those are

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<v Speaker 1>what sends those chemical messages all around and your body.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why you're gonna end up slurring and stumbling

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and losing motor function because it's dumbing you down. Yeah,

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 1>your brain is not able to communicate with itself or

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your body the way it's supposed to

0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.800
<v Speaker 1>because the neuro transmitters are being affected, and two in

0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.960
<v Speaker 1>particular are being affected. Gabba, our friend that puts us

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, is increased. Gabba release or GABA production is

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<v Speaker 1>increased when alcohol is introduced to the body. Right, and

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:33.800
<v Speaker 1>then glutamate actually, which is an excitatory neurotransmitter get you up,

0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:38.200
<v Speaker 1>up up, gives you some PEP, is actually reduced when

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you drink alcohol. So you go from sleepy to sloppy

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 1>because gabas increased and glutamates decreased. Yeah, and this whole

0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.960
<v Speaker 1>time you go from sleepy to sloppy, but your dopamine

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.920
<v Speaker 1>is through the roof so sleepy or slappy you're going,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't this great? This is the best thing ever. Speaking

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.120
<v Speaker 1>of great, I think you're great. Uh. And that's all

0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.440
<v Speaker 1>because of dopamine. You know. When I saw this, now

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<v Speaker 1>I saw glutamate. It makes me wonder if the brain

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.920
<v Speaker 1>has a new mommy taste to it. Gross, But don't

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you wonder though you need brains? Yeah you can. You

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.200
<v Speaker 1>can get them in like a can at the grocery store. Yeah,

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.199
<v Speaker 1>you can get You can get them in a fancy

0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:27.640
<v Speaker 1>restaurant else, other places that you quick trip, quick trip.

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Sure you can get everything a quick trip. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was impotted meat. I'm sure there's some impot of meat,

0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.439
<v Speaker 1>but I think potted meat makes like a brains brand,

0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a brains brand brains. Yeah, so gross. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>work at the Golden Pantry, you know, in Athens, and

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.439
<v Speaker 1>we had dudes that would come in there, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>road workers that would get their like pack of salt

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.479
<v Speaker 1>teas and potted meat was there lunch. They would get

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<v Speaker 1>on the way to work and like a ninety eight

0:20:54.600 --> 0:21:01.200
<v Speaker 1>ounce mountain dew that's healthy living, brother, their arm would

0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 1>just fall off on their way out the door. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And a few packs of cigarettes to probably um. So

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<v Speaker 1>how specifically their regions of the brain that are specifically

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<v Speaker 1>affected in different ways. I guess we should go over

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:18.119
<v Speaker 1>that too. Sure, Like the cerebral cortex, Well, the cerebral cortex, right,

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that's your That's where your executive function is located. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where things like maybe I should stop drinking for the

0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 1>night decisions are located, or um, maybe I shouldn't get

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.960
<v Speaker 1>in a fight with that cop um, or maybe I

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't start that fire. Whatever. All of this stuff is

0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.719
<v Speaker 1>located here in your prefrontal cortex, right, and it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>impaired again because your neurotransmitters are reduced, they're being affected,

0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and your brain is not communicating with itself any longer.

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>So the boss, the executive function is basically silenced, and

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<v Speaker 1>that actually has a one to punch as far as

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol consumption is concerned. Not only is your judgment impaired,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning you're behavior just takes all sorts of left turns

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<v Speaker 1>while you're drunk, right, but also remember we said the

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<v Speaker 1>reward pathway is activated by alcohol and your dope means

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy. Well, your prefrontal cortex is also responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>um judging whether a pleasurable experience has an adaptive um

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<v Speaker 1>benefit to it. Yeah, whether it's worth it. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>when this is impaired, you're that part of your brain

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<v Speaker 1>is not able to judge drinking is not worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all totally worth it. So it's all pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>So it has like this this really um, this crazy effect.

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, alcohol is so smart. It knows what it's doing. Yeah,

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean it lowers your inhibitions and that. Uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're abusing alcohol, that's a bad thing. Um, if you

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.760
<v Speaker 1>have a glass of wine before you have to, you know,

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 1>go up on stage, that's a different thing. Oh, well

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.439
<v Speaker 1>you're the exception. I guess. Huh that said a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of wine, not twelve classes. Why I was speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>this is fresh air I've been meaning to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>with an author named, um oh, Sarah Hippola or Hippola.

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I haven't listened yet, so I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>say her last name, but she as a recovering alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>and she apparently, it says in the description she got

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<v Speaker 1>up and spoke in front of like a crowd of

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred um and was so drunk that she had

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<v Speaker 1>no recollection of it the next day. Can you imagine that? Man,

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.479
<v Speaker 1>that's my worst nightmare. I mean, like going on on stage.

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 1>You're like, okay, am I all right, Like I'm relaxed,

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not too relaxed, right, Like being blackout drunk

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 1>on stage. That's wow, that is a scary thought. So, Chuck,

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that's just the prefrontal cortex we've been talking about. There's

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.160
<v Speaker 1>other regions of the brain that gets smacked around by

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:53.479
<v Speaker 1>alcohol's effect. That's right, the cerebellum. That's your movement and balance.

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>So that's why you're stumbling around because that is impaired. Uh,

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 1>your hypothalamus, simpituitare e um hormone release and automatic brain functions.

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.959
<v Speaker 1>So they depressed the nerves and the hypothalamus and they

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about sexual arousal. You might be more aroused,

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>but you might not be able to perform sexually at

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the same time. So that's a it's very negative. That's

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a mixed message alcoholics. You know, like, hey, go talk

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>to that that girl over there and uh, maybe see

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>what happens. And then physically you're like, well, nothing's happening.

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It's embarrass yourself time. Yeah, Like what you set me

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<v Speaker 1>up alcohol. And then there's the medulla. That's right. The

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>medulla is located at the in the brain stem, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very um ancient part of the human brain, right,

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and it controls things like breathing, body temperature, UM, really

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>important stuff, automatic stuff, right, And alcohol impairs this the

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>medulla's function, so you may pass out and stop breathing.

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Your body temperature can go hey wire, which can lead

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to all sorts of other problems. UM. And your gag

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 1>reflex is centered in your medulla, so you could end

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:12.120
<v Speaker 1>up like John Bottom passed out, throwing up and um

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:17.399
<v Speaker 1>choking to death. Yes, that's sad stuff. Uh, we've already

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.199
<v Speaker 1>talked a little bit about blackouts. But you can have

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>that short term memory loss or it can lead to

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>long term uh memory loss and like onset of dementia.

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>You've heard of or may have even known people that

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>have been described as pickled from alcohol, and uh that's

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>just you know that someone whose body is just not

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>in brain are not functioning. Yeah, there's actually there's a

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>specific vitamin deficiency that can come from alcohol because UM

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>prolonged exposure to alcohol or prolonged consumption of alcohol over

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the years, UM reduces your body's ability to absorb diamin

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>or vitamin B. And vitamin B is a very important

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>vitamin that you need. It's an assent a vitamin, meaning

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>that you need to get it elsewhere, like you need

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.159
<v Speaker 1>to eat it because your body is either doesn't produce

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>or it doesn't produce enough. So UM, with vitamin B

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it helps brain cells UM turn carbs into energy, very important.

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>It also helps nerves transmit information, also very important. And

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.239
<v Speaker 1>when you have a thiamine deficiency, you can end up

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>with what's called UM We're Nikki cors Coughs syndrome where

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>basically your brain shrinks, you become confused, disoriented, UM, you

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>essentially lose your mind in a lot of ways because

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>your brain is no longer able to function correctly or

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 1>communicate with itself, not just while you're drunk overall. Yeah,

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>they call it wet brain UH. And there are actually

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>two different things that are often described together Wernicke's UH

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and cephalopit and cephalopathy and Corsicov syndrome, but they often

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>go hand in hand. And one of the scary things

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>about this is it's has a very high rate of

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>UH being not diagnosed. So like I think only of

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>cases are diagnosed before death, and a lot more after

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, it turns out they had wet brain.

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Nothing you can do about it now. So that is

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>certainly also sad as our withdrawal symptoms. If you have

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>an actual dependence and you're an alcoholic, when you stop

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>drinking um within a day to three days, probably closer

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to a day, UM, you're gonna be experiencing some pretty

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>nasty withdrawal syndromes, right. And the reason why is because

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>your your brain becomes dependent on alcohol. Right. It basically says, Okay,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy's gonna drink all the time. I don't see

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>a time when he's ever gonna stop drinking. So I

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>need to adjust my output of neurotransmitters to change my

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>brain chemistry completely to account for this, this introduction of alcohol.

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Because the body seeks homeostasis, right, this is its way

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>of adjusting itself to see homeostasis in the presence, the

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>constant presence of alcohol. Um. And so when you remove

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 1>that alcohol, the brains chemistry has been altered over time.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.479
<v Speaker 1>And now you're probably suddenly removing alcohol and you are

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>going to go through withdrawal symptoms and actually people have

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.959
<v Speaker 1>died from acute alcohol withdrawal. Oh, I'm sure where they

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>They probably should have weaned themselves off rather than just

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>quit drinking cold turkey, because again, the wholemark of alcoholism

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is a physical dependence on it, and that part of

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>your your physical dependence is your brain chemistry. Yeah, and

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more more and more people are thinking

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that weaning off is a safer approach. Well, I think

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what happened to Amy Winehouse. Like you just quit

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>cold turkey and died very quickly. Yeah. Uh. In withdrawal,

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get this be disoriented. Um, you might have hallucinations, nausea, sweating, seizures,

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>delirium tremens. The d T s uh actually has the

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>same effect as a lot of these hallucinations. Sweating. Your

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>heart rate is gonna be funky. You're gonna be shaking

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and shivering. Uh. Just watch Leaving Las Vegas and Aunt

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Cage if you want to be scared away from booze. Yeah,

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>that was a tough movie. It was What about when

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a Man Loves a Woman? That was a tough one. Yeah.

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Days of Wine and Roses. I never saw that classic.

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Jack Lemon was an alcoholic in

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that one. Uh twenty eight days, not to be confused,

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty days later days that's when Sandra Bullock played a

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>zombie a right, right, just kidding, Uh what else? There's

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>surely there's more. Oh yeah, it seemed flight. Have you

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>seen Flight with Denzel Yeah, that was pretty good. But

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>here's a big time alcohol that was shot here in Atlanta. Um,

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>yes he was and uh clean and sober, the Michael

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Keaton movie. These are all off the top of my head,

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>but there've been it's been an off covered subject and

0:29:56.200 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>it's they're usually very tough to watch. Agreed. So let's

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>take a break in uh hug each other so we

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>can get through the rest of this thing and we'll

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit more about what alcohol does to

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>your body and things you can do to uh stop. Yes,

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, So we talked a lot about the health

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>damage you're going to suffer as an alcoholic. Um in

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the brain. Yeah, internally, you're gonna your liver is gonna

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>take a beating. So your kidneys, your heart, your brain,

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>your central nervous system, your liver. Actually you can the

0:30:55.720 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>first step two bad alcohol damage is alcoholic hep titus,

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>which is inflammation of the liver, and then you have

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>about a seventy chance if you have alcoholic hepatitis to

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>develop full blown cirrhosis. And that is when a little

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>bit by a little bit, your liver just turns into

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>scar tissue and it becomes an unusable organ and it

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>is nasty if you see pictures of like cirrosis damaged livers. Yeah,

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>because again, your your liver while it's metabolizing alcohol turns

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it into acetylale hyde, which is really toxic. Like alcohol

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.719
<v Speaker 1>is toxic, but for some reason, while we process it,

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>we turn it into something even more toxic, and the

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>liver suffers as a result. Your stomach, the lining of

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the stomach can just get eaten away, and your intestines

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>can lead to ulcers and obviously in the moment nausea

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and vomiting your pancreas could lead to pancreatitis and cancer

0:31:56.480 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned, Yeah, because cancer. Alcohol is a carcinogen

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and exposure over the years by being an alcoholic um

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>can result in all a bunch of different alcohol alcoholic

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>cancers or what they're called. Like you can get him

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>of the throat of the larynx um. You can get

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>liver cancer obviously, just from being exposed to alcohol over

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and over again. I had no idea you could get

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>cancer from alcohol. It makes sense, but I just never

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>thought of as a carcinogen. Uh. If you're over sixty five,

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you're in bigger trouble because your body just doesn't metabolize

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>alcohol as well at that point. Um, And like we said,

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>men have a little better time metabolizing alcohol than women, right. Um.

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember that my bar in l A, the drawing room,

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>there was this old drunk there. I won't say his

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>name because I found out he's still alive. But it

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>was just remarkable to me that this guy was alive. Yeah,

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was into a seventies and just dropped

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>dead drunk every single time I saw him. And I

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>checked back, and this was in the late nineties, and

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>then I was in l A last year. I went

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to the bar asked if he was still around, and

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>they said, oh, yeah, he will be here in a

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>few hours. Wow. I was like, man, how is he alive?

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Milk thistle? What's that? It's a like it's a I

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>think you make a tea out of it or whatever.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a very famous um liver cleanser. Interesting. Maybe he's

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>on the milk thistle. Milk thistle and he's eating a

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of meat, so he's getting tons of vitamin B.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>That's how that guy is alive. Maybe he was a

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>straight vodka guy, which is always a kind of a

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>can be an indication. I think that that helps though. Also,

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>if I remember from one of our other episodes, like

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the clearer the alcohol usually the fewer the impurities. Maybe

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what it is that's keeping him alive, the vodka,

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't mix it with anything. But I mean,

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>look at like Boris Yell. Some people like he was

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>old when he died. Yeah, he that knows. It was

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>like a cantaloupe the gin blossom, which doesn't necessarily mean

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>you're an alcoholic. People take it for that though. Yeah,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's rosation, but alcoholism definitely will. It doesn't

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:21.760
<v Speaker 1>help the gin blossom situation. Um. And then there's fetal

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>alcohol syndrome, which is the saddest thing you can imagine. Yes,

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it sets here that um fete. Fetal alcohol syndrome is

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the number one preventable cause of mental impairment. What yeah,

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>what Wow, it's pretty amazing. So if you're drinking too much,

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>you should't drink at all when you're pregnant. You some

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>in Europe there like you can have a glassworm here

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>as well too, Like apparently you know, it's it's gained

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>acceptance that like you can you can have something occasionally

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, like wine usually is what they say. Right

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>But um, and I realized this article is old, but

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's specifically says like the Surgeon General is like, do

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>not drink while you're pregnant. Well, I think that's the

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>fallback recommendation is. I think that if it feels like

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>a tricky thing to say, well, you can maybe drink

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>this a little bit here and there, I think it's

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>easier for them to say just don't drink for nine

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>months and and everybody says it's easy for you to say.

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>In general, then you have zero chance of any complications

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>like this, right, well, at least fetal alcoholic syndrome. Yeah,

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>so that's when your your little baby's brain cells are developing, uh,

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>informing connections in utero and alcohol explosion there is going

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to disrupt that from the get go and lead to um,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>you can have a physical problems like your head might

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:51.959
<v Speaker 1>be smaller than normal microce, you might have some facial abnormalities. Uh,

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and then later in life you could be in big

0:35:54.200 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>trouble as far as cognitive functioning, memory, learning disability. So

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a pretty rough one. And it's all

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:08.399
<v Speaker 1>because alcohol impedes cellular division during development. Right, So when

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the fetus is exposed to alcohol, which easily crosses the

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>placental barrier um the cellular division, it doesn't go according

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 1>to plan. So not good. And again with adoption, that's

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>one of the things you have to consider because most

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of these birth mothers have some sort of issue with

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>drugs or alcohol and fetal alcohol syndrome that's the one

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that even the agencies says, like, you don't want to

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>mess with that really, Yeah, like do your research on

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>drugs and how they affect the baby and you'd probably

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>be surprised. Alcohol is worse than unfetal development. Absolutely, yeah,

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's the worst. Um, yeah, it's pretty it's pretty scary.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>So this number I don't think is right anymore. Eight

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>five billion per year in medical expenses. It's either to okay,

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's in the United States, and that's crime, lost productivity, accidents,

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>medical expenses. The economic impact of alcoholis Yeah, that is

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>close to three billion dollars. That's amazing, all right, So

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>what can you do? There's a a pot of gold

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 1>at the end of this rainbow. There's a For many,

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>many years, there was, um, your only hope was Alcoholics Anonymous,

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>not even twelve step programs, specifically Alcoholics Anonymous, which is

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>founded in either nineteen thirty or nineteen thirty five. Do

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you remember, Um, there's some pretty great articles about Alcoholics Anonymous,

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know it's effectiveness that it's a tributes to

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 1>it just it's this, it's its own thing, and it's

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>helped undoubtedly tons of people. Um. But there's been alternatives

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.959
<v Speaker 1>that have developed over the years, but it took a while.

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Supposedly it wasn't until like the sixties or seventies that

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>alternatives to a a grew up. Um. And some of

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>them say, no, you don't need to believe in a

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>higher power to get over alcoholism. You can find that

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.720
<v Speaker 1>in yourself. Um. Other people like UM, I think one's

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>called moderation management. So you don't have to abstain from life.

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>You can try to just you know, become a moderate

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>drinker and then if that doesn't work, then yeah, you

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>probably should abstain for life. UM and some others say,

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>twelve step programs are great, but you could also do

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with cognitive behavioral therapy UM and so.

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>But some sort of treatment program that involves like a

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>change in behavior through either twelve steps, support groups, one

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>on one counseling. UM. That's the gold standard for treating alcoholism.

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.240
<v Speaker 1>But over the years, especially lately, people have been turning

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>more and more to prescription drugs. They become increasingly promising

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 1>as well, especially as we start to learn how genes

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>interact with specific drugs. The more we can learn about

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a person genes and how they interact with drugs, the

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 1>more targeted treatment of alcoholism will be. It seems like, yeah,

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>this article I found in the New York Times, drugs

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>help tailor alcoholism treatment. That the wish is that one

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>day they will be able to because everyone's different, like

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>we were saying, as far as alcoholism goes, Uh, so

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't have one treatment for such a varied group.

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>So they're hoping one day to be able to tailor

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>drug treatment programs pharmaceuticals for alcohol treatment the same way

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>they do with depression or anxiety or any mental it's

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 1>like this doesn't work, well, then try this one. That

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>one's kind of working. We'll add this one in and

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it's really gonna make it pop, you know. And right

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>now I think there are three approved f d A

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>treatments UM. Two of them now chrekzone and i CAM

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>pro sate reduced cravings to drink. And then there's anti

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>views which I've heard of for a little while. And

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>that's the one that makes you sick when you drink. Yeah,

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty rough, Like only a drug like that could

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>find its roots in purity in America, you know. UM,

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>but that mal trek zone. There's a good article about

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>UM in in the Atlantic called The Irrationality of Alcoholics

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Anonymous and the author experiments with mal trek zone and finds,

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:24.879
<v Speaker 1>like amazingly to her astonishment, like it really works. Yeah,

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>it says in't here um in studies and clinical trials

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>they found one in seven alcoholics. Uh, it works for

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>one and seven alcoholics. Those two now track zone and

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>outcome pro state and with UM mal trek zone, probably

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>both of them, but definitely with mal trek zone. It

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>targets your pleasure center when alcohol is present, so it

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>targets your pleasure center. But it's not like you go

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.839
<v Speaker 1>through life like a hedonic. You know, you can still

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>experience joy and happiness and pleasure, but specifically with alcohol,

0:40:56.080 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it reduces the effect that it has on the olympic system,

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>so you don't crave it as much or when you do. Right,

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and when you do crave it, I think in that

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>New York Times article you found somebody's somebody who takes

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>nail trek zonn as saying I still get cravings, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're short lived and they're not nearly as intense because

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<v Speaker 1>of the nail trek. Right, But again it only works

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<v Speaker 1>for about a seventh of the people who take it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a modern thing. Years ago, offering to

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<v Speaker 1>treat a drug with another drug was scoffed at, But

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<v Speaker 1>now people are embracing it a little bit more as like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, a lesser of the evils. Yeah, at least

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<v Speaker 1>you're not killing your body with alcohol abuse. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things Chuck that came up when we did

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<v Speaker 1>the Addiction podcast um was that alcoholism and all addictions

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<v Speaker 1>are chronic disease and relapse are to be expected, as

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<v Speaker 1>with any chronic disease. It's you. You go through relapses

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently Alcoholics Anonymous did a UM survey in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand seven of like eight thousand of its members in

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<v Speaker 1>North America and found that thirty three percent of them

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<v Speaker 1>were still abstinate after ten years. So a lot of people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people relapse, and I bet, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you anything, those are the ones that are still work

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<v Speaker 1>in that program regularly. Well, yeah, you have to, like

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<v Speaker 1>part of a A is you still go to meetings

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<v Speaker 1>UM at least occasionally years for the rest of your life. Basically. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a really good article that came out in Harper's

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand eleven called The Drunks Club The Cult

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<v Speaker 1>that Cures Totally worth reading. I posted a PDF of

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<v Speaker 1>it on our site for this podcast page. It is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best article it's ever been written about alcoholics Anonymous. Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a gift because the author is an alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>and Alcoholics Anonymous attendee and an incredible writer. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>great recovered alcoholic or recovering or I don't remember, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've probably recovered or recovering. That's why they that tag

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<v Speaker 1>sticks with you for life. I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things they teach you is that you should always

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<v Speaker 1>consider yourself an alcoholic. Right, you have a disease, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in recovery, then that's, uh, you're on the

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<v Speaker 1>right path. Yeah. And there I was reading an article

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<v Speaker 1>about alternatives to alcoholics anonymous, and one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>like women on sobriety or something like that. Everything we're

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<v Speaker 1>saying like that, we don't agree with that, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a temporary tag, it's not for life. Um. And the

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<v Speaker 1>spokesperson for that organization is saying, like, if I used

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<v Speaker 1>to smoke and then I quit after a certain time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like, yeah, I'm a smoker for life, like

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 1>you you used to smoke, or you just don't even

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even a thing. It's not a label you

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<v Speaker 1>have to carry around for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>I see the value in both, to be honest, in

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<v Speaker 1>in the reward of being able to say I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>an alcoholic anymore, right, or the recognition that you used

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<v Speaker 1>to be and you need to remember that every day

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah. I think it's probably as as varied as

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<v Speaker 1>people's reaction to alcohol, Like if that great, if you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be free of that eventually great. Well said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are an alcoholic, go get help. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't have to go any further than your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>search engine to find a lot of resources that UM

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>can get you help. People are dying to help people

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<v Speaker 1>kick alcohol and drugs. They love to do that stuff.

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>They're crazy. It's like their life's work. So go meet

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people. Don't be afraid of them, and

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid of your life after, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>lead a rich, fulfilling existence. Yeah. I think that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people from wanting to kick it fun. Yeah, yeah,

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm friends with recovering alcoholics and they're great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they love life just the same. Uh if you actually

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<v Speaker 1>they're better. They're not just the same because they're not

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:57.280
<v Speaker 1>blacking out and hungover mad all the time. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know more about alcoholism, you can type that

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<v Speaker 1>word in the search part how stuff works dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And since I said search parts, time to a listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this letter from from an old Geezer

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<v Speaker 1>because he says he's a old geezer. I would never

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<v Speaker 1>call it of age that this automatically has seen. Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Geezer, seventy four years old and a regular listener.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your show. Listen all of the time when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm driving. I'm also a musician and living a smallish

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<v Speaker 1>town restricted to Geezers south of Tucson, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just listening to the podcast on auto tune. I share

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>your hatred of it. No, you didn't say that in

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<v Speaker 1>so many words, but it came out loud and clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm writing, however, about the little snippet you've been about rever.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was a senior in high school late nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a rock and roll band in Tucson

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<v Speaker 1>called the Night Beats. We cut three records for a

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<v Speaker 1>record company named Zoom Records that was started and run

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<v Speaker 1>by two of our school friends. The guy who ran

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<v Speaker 1>the recording studio on Phoenix where we did the session

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<v Speaker 1>could put echo on the voice in nineteen fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>long before manufactured reverb was widespread. He did it by

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<v Speaker 1>placing a speaker and a microphone and an empty water

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<v Speaker 1>tank behind the studio. He piped in the sound through

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<v Speaker 1>the speaker and picked it up on the mic to

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<v Speaker 1>get an actual physical echo or reverb sound for the

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<v Speaker 1>vocal it's pretty smart for es tu soon aren't too bad? Right? Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He even was able to move the mic in and

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<v Speaker 1>out to change the reverb time for the desired effect.

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<v Speaker 1>One more interesting fact is that our singer was Pete Ronstad,

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<v Speaker 1>his little sister and not yet made it big time.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbers tried, is she from Arizona? I didn't know that,

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<v Speaker 1>Linda Ronstad. Yeah, that explains the Spanish language albums. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>maybe so, h. I hope you find this senior plow

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<v Speaker 1>nos Boyano, Well that was that one of the songs.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, she was on one of the Simpsons episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you find this interesting and worth the time

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<v Speaker 1>it took to read it. Uh. Sure, it was an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting time in my life. Thanks for the great podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is from land Hoops. Nice Lance, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Yeah, man, I love hearing from our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>of age. I like hearing from twelve year old and

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<v Speaker 1>like seventy plus. Yeah, I mean too. I even like

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from uh, two year old, two hundred and three

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<v Speaker 1>year old? How about that? Nice? That's I always felt bad,

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<v Speaker 1>not always, once I came to understand that people live

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<v Speaker 1>beyond um nine two, that that Christmas song excluded a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. Oh sure, yeah, oh, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>we should point out too. I was going to read

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<v Speaker 1>a full mail on it, but the Pete Frampton effect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a vocoder. It's a talk box. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel really bad because I know that, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the heat of the podcast. Man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad. I say all sorts of stuff where I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>why did I say that? Or why didn't I address that.

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<v Speaker 1>I even thought I said the words talk box, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought you knew something I didn't about a

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<v Speaker 1>different name for it, or something I should have spoken up.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, that's what a talk boxes. The tube is

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<v Speaker 1>acting as it's a rubber tube that runs from a

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<v Speaker 1>speaker and the sound is going through that tube into

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth. And so you're basically playing a guitar through

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny little tube. Yeah, and you're able to make

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<v Speaker 1>change his the shape of your mouth and his pop

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<v Speaker 1>fix prae that you that's a good song. Pe Frampton's

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<v Speaker 1>opening up for us. He's actually playing the same theater

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<v Speaker 1>as US, and that oh yeah, yeah, the acoustic to her,

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing like the week before the week after US.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he'll play all I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>as by his thought. Uh, if you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more about Pete Frampton and want to get in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with us, actually we don't know anything more about Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Frampton than that. Oh we know a little more, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't feel like talking about it on social that.

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