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Speaker 1: Are you leaving?

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Speaker 2: I you wanna way back home?

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Speaker 3: Either way you want to be.

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Speaker 2: There, doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give

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Speaker 2: us time and a terminol and gay.

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Speaker 1: We want to send you off in style.

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Speaker 2: We want to welcome you back home. Tell us all

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine?

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Speaker 2: Malborn? Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 1: Ride with Karen and Chris.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Do you need to ride? This is Chris Fairbanks,

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Speaker 4: my guest and co host. He's pulling double duty. You

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Speaker 4: know him from the We Watch Wrestling podcast. You know

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Speaker 4: him from Monday Night Beers. I know him from the

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Speaker 4: Monday Monday Night Beer is golf balls He's given me.

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Speaker 4: He's the He's very knowledgeable about merch. We know that

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Speaker 4: going in. He also is the husband of Georgia Hartstark

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Speaker 4: from My Favorite Murder. Karen's other podcast, Everyone put your

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Speaker 4: hands together for Vince Abril.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, man, wait to put me over? Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Oh of course, yeah, I mean that was all off.

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Speaker 4: That's just knowledge I have off the top of my head.

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm glad you have to read it, you know, no.

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Speaker 1: No, God forbid, you can always tell when someone's reading.

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Speaker 4: My reading comprehension is not I never I was watching

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Speaker 4: a movie the other day and I know they still

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Speaker 4: do this, and it blows me away when they still

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Speaker 4: think we weren't thrown off by a five to five

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Speaker 4: is reading something, they read it out loud and it's

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Speaker 4: always so very awkward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just done drama.

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Speaker 3: I was just watching something the other day where I

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Speaker 3: was like, this seems like it's too like high of

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Speaker 3: does it cheapens it immediately you're like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: what am I watching a Rockford Files.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lately they have been.

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Speaker 4: They take the time someone in production goes and I

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Speaker 4: don't know, purchase is a phone number, so we aren't

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Speaker 4: taken out of the story because I hear that five

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Speaker 4: five five and I'm like, what is it nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: But I will say in the same way that my

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Speaker 3: I do find that my ability to read out loud

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: For one, I've gone blind in the past year. It's

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Speaker 4: an eye doctor. But yeah, I get I get really nervous,

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Speaker 4: even just now just announcing something something other than comedy

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Speaker 4: comedy show. There's times where the club has been like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I get so nervous for that, not the show, but

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Speaker 4: just saying, hey, everyone, how are you doing tonight? Well,

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Speaker 4: tonight we have tonight's guest and it's also me, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, put your hands.

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Speaker 4: Like I I I absolutely lose it.

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Speaker 3: I have no It's second only to when you like

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Speaker 3: you're you are in charge of hosting and someone gives

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Speaker 3: you a joke to bring them up on, like this

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Speaker 3: and it's just like, I don't want to. People are

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Speaker 3: do your shitty joke to bring you up. Can I

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Speaker 1: It's funny.

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Speaker 4: When I first started in Austin, I was nervous to

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Speaker 4: I thought that would be and all my all my

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, that was a joke. Please.

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Speaker 3: I think there would be some value to a thesis

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Speaker 3: I feel like you'd find that people were like, no,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially now, every comic is supposed to be open

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Speaker 4: I don't want anyone to know anything about my real life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, there does seem to be that school of

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Speaker 4: I when I do stand up, I do my old

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Speaker 1: About my life, so I'm done lying.

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Speaker 4: Now here's the truth segment, which is I've gotten away

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Speaker 4: the middle. Well that's what I've Maybe you don't have

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Speaker 4: them confused about who I really am. I think that's okay.

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Speaker 3: I am. I'm very pleased to see that, even off duty,

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Speaker 3: off the golf course, you still rock the headband, which

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Speaker 3: deserves to be rocked at all times. So there's nothing

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Speaker 4: There and I have gotten to know each other through golf,

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Speaker 4: and I think I've told you this. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: You're no longer being beat up for it outside of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it used to be you go to the shop

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Speaker 4: and you just wait for for trucks filled with angry

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Speaker 4: Yeah if I knew, and they would say terrible things

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Speaker 4: Even the last time I was in Montana, things have

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Speaker 3: I do also have a little I mean, I guess

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Speaker 3: I don't. I've just started in the last whatever six

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Speaker 3: I got my own bag, and like there's just something

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Speaker 4: And the problem is I'm thinking about it so much

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Speaker 3: The point where I think the first time I showed

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Speaker 1: I don't want to look like a golfer man. I

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Speaker 4: I'm I am going eighties tennis with it. I just

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Speaker 4: that's a look that I'm nostalgic for. I literally googled

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Speaker 4: Andre Agassi headband and then I just shorts and everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have a lot of it in my

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Speaker 3: Of that light lycra some some neon colors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of it used.

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Speaker 4: So when I wear it, I'm activating some dead tennis

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know that's all part of the experience. Uh.

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Speaker 4: This headband belonged to my friend's mother. I believe it

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Speaker 3: But oh, you actually procured that from a friend.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, and then modeled my look after this headband.

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Speaker 1: So I have a Justin Kroft's mother to thank for that.

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Speaker 3: You were just bumping around the crib and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: I've met my buddy.

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Speaker 4: He's from Montana and I've been going He lives in

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Speaker 4: Santa Barbara now in the mountains. When anyone is frustrated

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Speaker 4: that they can't get hold of me, it's because I'm

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Speaker 4: at Justin's cabin that does not have I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: because of that. But yeah, sometimes I get nervous when

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Speaker 4: Every time I go there, he's like, do you want

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Speaker 4: worried that they're saying goodbye in some way. I'm like, wait,

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Speaker 4: How have you been feeling?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, we've just been giving each other things. I

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Speaker 3: Up at the cabin, I'm holding I picture the you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, looking through a photo. I have a chest

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Speaker 4: because sometimes I don't want to be confronted by memories.

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Speaker 3: But you know, some of your some personal belongings or

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Speaker 3: otherwise artifacts from your life are in there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, photos, man. I brought it up for the photos

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Speaker 1: When I.

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Speaker 4: Used to do illustrations for this aptitude test in Texas,

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Speaker 4: the Toss test, very strange specific drawings where they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: It would just be like, we need a fifth.

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Speaker 4: Grade Asian boy checking a water meter on a fence

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Speaker 4: So I would draw these really specific drawings, never knowing

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Speaker 1: Question was about. So and I look at.

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Speaker 4: These drawings now and they are hilarious and I want

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Speaker 3: Wait, so there's so d So would you have like

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Speaker 3: here's ten of them?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, totally.

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Speaker 4: They'd give me like ten, and I'd be on the

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Speaker 1: But guy, I used to be such a hard worker.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this is just a teaser of what may

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Speaker 3: be in there. If people want to join Chris's Patreon,

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Speaker 3: he's going to open it up. That'll be the first

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Speaker 1: The unboxing of my memory chest.

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Speaker 3: Some people to get in the mail. You're just actually

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Speaker 3: going to open old shit of your own that you

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Speaker 3: forgot what's in.

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Speaker 4: I had no idea how many cordless adult pleasure toys

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Speaker 3: Some of these were for my back. Some of these

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Speaker 3: were definitely just for my back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: You never know scoliosis, you never know when it'll hit.

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Speaker 1: That's why I have old purple here.

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Speaker 3: The treatment has changed over the years, so there's no

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Speaker 4: I did a little research of Megan Gaily, who I

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Speaker 4: she will be a guest, I think right after this.

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Speaker 4: But in researching her, I researched you, and there's some

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Speaker 4: things I didn't know about you, Like you had a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I started a label with the money for my

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Speaker 3: our first release, we immediately disagreed on what to do next.

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Speaker 3: So then I started my own, which I sort of

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Speaker 3: recently I've I've done hardcore records still, but I occasionally

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Speaker 3: will do like I did at Matt McCarthy seven inch.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing andre do new record like I so I'm

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Speaker 3: sort of now doing comedy with it too.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if I wasn't held under the same name.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Capsule Records has been the same name since nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety five or something like that.

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Speaker 1: That's so crazy.

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Speaker 4: See, I've I'm only learning about your your you know, touring, managed,

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Speaker 3: Yeah you were.

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Speaker 1: I had a hardcore l.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm saying in a hardcore band right now,

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Speaker 3: curact as I sit here. Yeah, that we have a record,

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Speaker 3: which is a hardcore label out of Hunting and Beach

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Speaker 3: and then we're starting to work on our album.

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Speaker 4: Now the thing, why do I not know these things?

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Speaker 4: Do I just not listen? Do I not pay attention?

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Speaker 1: No? I mean, on the.

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Speaker 3: Course, you know we're cracking wise about a squirrel. We're

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Speaker 3: talking about who's shot was terrible or more terrible, and.

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Speaker 1: You've gotten it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't usually angrily thrash around swearing from

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Speaker 4: the bushes. I hope you know that I'm generally a

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Speaker 4: and Mike that have gotten to know me through golf

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Speaker 4: and have seen how there's always anger under the surface

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Speaker 4: or I try to curb it once I see it surfacing.

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Speaker 1: I don't like throw clubs, but.

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Speaker 4: I when I was younger, I did, and that's kind

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Speaker 4: I clearly shouldn't do this if it makes me this angry. Well,

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Speaker 4: and then I realized, well, I throw my skateboard and

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Speaker 1: I during that too, but I yeah, skateboarding.

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Speaker 3: What has curb to me on the course is that

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Speaker 3: there's another person who will occasionally play with us, who

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Speaker 3: be like, no, no, no, don't don't do this, or people

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Speaker 1: Right, you saw that happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen you lose it at all. You stay

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Speaker 3: Just bottle it up and then go home and drink

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Speaker 3: it away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let it.

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Speaker 4: Let it surface with something trivial at home with your

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've been trying hard, especially when you're golfing with strangers.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, do not do this, do not do not

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Speaker 3: Things begin to fall apart, and then I've also seen

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Speaker 3: you know, like, how can you not be upset?

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Speaker 4: I already yeah, specifically I was cursing myself out and

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Speaker 4: When things get that bad, you have to.

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Speaker 3: Actually you pull back a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: When I think hardcore music, though I don't, I think

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's definitely, uh, a sect or a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but then there was also hardcore to me, and

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Speaker 4: I think I might be wrong, but it is a

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Speaker 4: specific part is a band from DC and those bands

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so those are all hardcore bands. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: Oh, of course.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Fugazi and very a very

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Speaker 4: I was into other like Fishbone and this ban twenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't like a scene that wasn't just generally punk

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Speaker 3: Because it's also like, to me, like punk and hardcore

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Speaker 4: And the only way I ever learned about I mean,

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Speaker 4: Steve Caballero was.

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Speaker 1: In the film.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all that I didn't. I would just record

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Speaker 3: Mean, you had to You had to do what you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I'm so lucky that I had an older sister that

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Speaker 4: which is what.

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Speaker 4: I didn't talk to my friends about it because they

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Speaker 4: Audio Dynamite or Public Image Limited. They have these harder

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Speaker 4: She was a good curator of music for me. So

443
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 4: I was lucky.

444
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to have an older sibling or access.

445
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: One of the I mean this is a generalized statement,

446
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: but one of the negatives kind of around hardcore, at

447
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: least in my experience, and I don't think i'm alone,

448
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: is that it would become very narrow in like what

449
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 3: was accepted, you know what you wore, what you listened to,

450
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 3: what you did this and that, and so like led

451
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 3: Zeppelin's my favorite band of all time, and I was

452
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,479
Speaker 3: coming into hardcore with all these other things. And so

453
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: I remember like my first year of college with the

454
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,239
Speaker 3: dude who I started the original label with, like there

455
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 3: were certain records that I just I would I had

456
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 3: in another area and if he was out, I might

457
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 3: play him. But it was not going to be like

458
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: where if you're flipping through my shit, you're gonna be like, oh,

459
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 3: what's this? You know, like because you can still come

460
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 3: under fire when you're fucking like in college for like

461
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: liking the wrong thing.

462
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: It's insane.

463
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all my buddy is in college. That turned

464
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: me onto things like Pavement and Built to Spill and

465
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 4: all that stuff that at the time we called emo music,

466
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 4: but that turned into something completely different. I don't mean

467
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 4: like AFI and the scream right right right melodic scream rock,

468
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: but whatever you call that indye, I guess just India

469
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 4: the rock.

470
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

471
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 4: I privately was listening yes to Faith No More and

472
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 4: Mister Bunkle and all this and all my you know,

473
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 4: Cocteau Twins and stuff like that, which I still you

474
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 4: know what, that's probably my go to now ye melodic

475
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: like shoegazy shoegaze music or whatever it's called that the

476
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 4: Sundays and stuff like that, and I'm I'm just open

477
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 4: about it now. I let people now I like melodic

478
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: lady music.

479
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: I just love that.

480
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: It's so funny. I don't know if you remember, there

481
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: was like this DJ from the UK in the mid

482
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: to late nineties, Roney Size, and he was like big

483
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: for a hot minute, I don't even know what if

484
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 3: you'd call it drummond bass or whatever. And so you know,

485
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 3: I'm starting to like just get into other stuff. And

486
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: I was at this Roney Size show in Detroit and

487
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I like run into this you know,

488
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: big hardcore dude and he's like, oh my buddy, uh

489
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: he my buddy, like got me in here whatever? And

490
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I'm in here. There's no money to

491
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: make any excuses. We're both in the room.

492
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: Like what.

493
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 3: You didn't see me walk in? You're fucking in and

494
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm in. It's fine, Like who cares?

495
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, oh well, it's normal that you're here,

496
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: but you probably look up to me, so I should

497
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: explain why I'm here because I should be above this, right,

498
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: I'm three years older than you, totally.

499
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, certain, Yeah, you just got to fucking you know.

500
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: It was all the people who were who were willing

501
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: to do whatever the fuck they wanted at any stage

502
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: of life, were always the coolest, no matter what ridicule

503
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: they would take, you know. Yeah.

504
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: Even my buddy James that I worked with in Austin.

505
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 4: He was a screen printer at a shop where I.

506
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: Did the art.

507
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: He he we became friends really quickly, and he was

508
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 4: in a lot of eighties Vegas punk bands. Okay, like

509
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 4: one of his drummers in this band, drop Kick, was

510
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 4: the drummer in Dri. It was it was like this crossover,

511
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: which is the name of a Dri album. But there

512
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: was that time where it was like he was in

513
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: he had long hair and he looked like a metal head,

514
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 4: but he was in all these punk bands, and he talks.

515
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: About how he had to hide his.

516
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: Love of of you know, rock things like Zeppelin, which

517
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: to this day he is into, so he would seem

518
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: punk rock because he's in all these punk rock bands.

519
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 4: I think it's always been a thing where you have

520
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: to hide what you really.

521
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 3: Like seven seconds, right, they were from Vegas. Remember seven seconds?

522
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 4: He has tons of He was also in a band

523
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 4: called fifty one fifty and he had all these flyers

524
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 4: and seven seconds was all over those Yeah, all over

525
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: those flyers and dri But man, talk about a guy

526
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: with stories.

527
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: Every story he would tell me.

528
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: Because of the era and because it's Vegas, it made

529
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 4: me think of that. What's that movie with Matt Dillon,

530
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: one of his early movies where everyone's riding on BMX BI.

531
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, only is.

532
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: Over the edge, over the edge? Yeah, that was his childhood.

533
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: He's as a.

534
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 4: Teenager, He's like, yeah, and then my friend stabbed someone

535
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 4: and he went to prison, and there's an HBO documentary

536
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: about him. And I watched this documentary and the guy

537
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 4: was a scary murderer.

538
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: But it was his punk rock friend when he was little.

539
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 4: He just said he changed a lot over your time, apparently, But.

540
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vegas. I just hearing his stories.

541
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 4: It made me really glad I didn't grow up as

542
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: a kid in Sin City.

543
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I can't imagine what I mean. Even

544
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: when you you know, go there now and you sort

545
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: of travel out of the strip, like maybe even just

546
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: going to the airport over. I'm alwaying, what is this like?

547
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

548
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you a Vegas guy? Do you like gambling?

549
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: Yes?

550
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: I do, But but I'm like, I need about maybe

551
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: forty eight hours maximum, Like I don't, Okay, I don't

552
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: need to be very long.

553
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: Man.

554
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 3: I'll come in and do everything I need to do

555
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: at its maximum, and then I need to get out.

556
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: So it's like I like it every once in a

557
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: while for a very short period.

558
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I should get into it on some

559
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 4: healthy level, just so I have something to do when

560
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: i'm there. Or I used to be there a lot. Yeah,

561
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: for an old job, writing job I had. We'd go

562
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: to events there, like and I'd interview people. But then

563
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: at night I'm like, I don't know what to do here.

564
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: I am so careful with money. Yeah I'm not cheap,

565
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: but I really feel bad when I slide twenty bucks

566
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: over to someone. A wheel turns and then they just

567
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: take it away, and I'm confused.

568
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: I would say, And you know, I don't you know,

569
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: necessarily want to get called from your sponsor when this

570
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: all goes to shit for your gambling addiction. But as

571
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: an introduction, I first of all, I never stay anywhere

572
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: but downtown because it's everything is cheaper, the gambling is cheaper,

573
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: everything's cheaper, and it's all right together. Like when you're

574
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: on the Strip, it's like hard to even find your

575
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: way out of some of those hotels. And then you're like,

576
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: I'll just go to this next one, and it's a mirage.

577
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: It's like fucking half a mile walk downtown, bunch of

578
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: stuff right together, and it's still kind of a little grittier.

579
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: So you've got the like covered street walk where there's

580
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: like people dressed up. Is weird ship there's just concerts

581
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: going on.

582
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, is that the old part of it? Like old

583
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: downtown is old Vegas Flamingo and all that.

584
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: No Flamingo's on the strip, but it's like gold Nuggets, binions,

585
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: soloor queens.

586
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Circus circus, that's forr it.

587
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: No circus is at the end of the strip to.

588
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: Vegas. What if I keep trying it's a part of Vegas.

589
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: Then I got a holiday in down there. But it's Yeah,

590
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: there's just like little lounges where there's just cover bands.

591
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: It's just a it's just a much funner chiller uh

592
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: old vibe. You know.

593
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I am I am. I do like

594
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: nostalgic vegas. I do in movies and stuff like, I

595
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: do like to be reminded of that. But I don't

596
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: need to see Blue Man Group again. Why do you

597
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: keep throwing rolls of toilet paper? Stop with the drumming?

598
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: And also they scare me, the Blue Man Group, I'm

599
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: gonna be I'm just gonna admit they kind of give

600
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: me nightmares, which is what.

601
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: You should have led with.

602
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: You should have just admitted straight up that you're scared

603
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: of them, rather than try to take jabs like you

604
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: did there.

605
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: You're You're right.

606
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: That was mean and it was just me trying to

607
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: make up for the fact that I'm scared.

608
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm scared of the Blue Bang Group. They give me nightmares.

609
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: And you've got Carra Top up.

610
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: There on the strip, You've got you know, Thunder from

611
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: down Under, whatever you're whatever you're looking.

612
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: For, Yeah, yeah, you could do.

613
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: You could keep listing them, and I'm afraid it's not

614
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: what I'm looking for.

615
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: That's why you gotta stay downtown, man.

616
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: Listen.

617
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: The best time, maybe one of the best times we

618
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: ever had downtown me Georgia Jesse Pop and Lizzie Cooperman.

619
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: We drove because they said Gallagher is doing his final

620
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: week of shows in Vegas.

621
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: I very much would go see that.

622
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: We go to the Gold Nugget to see what is

623
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: about to unfold, and we show up. Every light in

624
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: the room is on. At a certain point he just

625
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: walks out. No, there's no announcement, no lights change.

626
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Now he's on stage, trampoline couch there was like there.

627
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: Was no trampoline couch, but there was a few other

628
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: items out.

629
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: There, and he starts going, watermelons.

630
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: He starts going and he's immediately saying crazy racist, homophobic stuff.

631
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

632
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: The room is like not even half full. This is

633
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: Gallagher's big send off. And at a certain point we

634
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: we go to leave. I think I think Jesse tried

635
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: to stay a little longer to see what white possibly happened.

636
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: We couldn't even make the sledge of matic. We're going out,

637
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: and as the usher opens the door for us, George

638
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: is like, this is terrible, and the usher goes, at

639
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: least you can leave, and that was.

640
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: That's the best. It was Gallagher's big send off.

641
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: It was terrible. It was terrible, but but ultimately a

642
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: great story and fun.

643
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: He yeah, he I had the pleasure working with him

644
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: twice in my life.

645
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: Oh.

646
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: When was the seventies reality show on MTV where they

647
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: had you know, JJ Dynamite, Jimmy Walker, Yeah, and people.

648
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: And I was just like, I played a neighbor that

649
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: drove a trans aam and played with nunchucks and then

650
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: I'd give a pop quiz to these poor kids and

651
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: get them kicked off the show.

652
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: It actually wasn't very fun, and I was sick the

653
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: whole time.

654
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: But anyway, Gallagher was on an episode and the saddest

655
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: part was he was totally bald, but he would put

656
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: on this hat reminiscent of his eighties days, with hair

657
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: stapled to the inside brim of it. So he just

658
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: put on this hair wig, this hat, hair wig, and yeah,

659
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: conversationally just went into hate speech.

660
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it would just right wing.

661
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 4: Stuff that I perceive as hate speech the way I

662
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: was raised, But also, like you said, just straight up

663
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: racist yeah stuff.

664
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Is there a difference? I don't know.

665
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: Also, I mean if anyone still cares or even knows

666
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: who Gallagher is, I don't think people realize that he

667
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: sold At a certain point he sold his act to

668
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: his brother, and so then Gallagher too would tour the

669
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: country doing his act.

670
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: Gallagher, Yeah, he and I remember him coming to Austin.

671
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: He had a Janet Jackson microphone set up, I give it, yes,

672
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 4: and a power point laser pointer one night and then

673
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: one night he just tried this this collapsing antenna pointer. Yeah,

674
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: but it was a very clinical PowerPoint presentation on I

675
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: believe wordplay, very boring. And then I thought that he

676
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: got in trouble with Gallagher one Gallagher two. Maybe didn't

677
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: have permission. Yeah, well they are, I think. On the

678
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: seventies House show he was also talking about his brother.

679
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: He just didn't have a lot of nice things.

680
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: To be a fly on the wall at the Gallagher

681
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: family dinner, you know, the Christmas or whatever they're celebrating

682
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: over the Oh.

683
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: God, I am just terrible, silent grumbling, no one looking

684
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: at each other in the eye.

685
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: And then he was at Bridgetown one year. Oh yes, yes,

686
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: he's like, oh all.

687
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: You young kids just have me here to make fun

688
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 4: of me, and he's like, whoops, he's on to us.

689
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: He was not happy to be there.

690
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 4: He just seemed like a really grumpy man and yeah,

691
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: if you don't know he I think he had seven

692
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: HBO special.

693
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I mean in the early days of the

694
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: video store in Milford, Michigan. One we'd have to rent

695
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: the VCR as well, but we rented those Gallagher tapes, man,

696
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: for sure, because I used to blow my mind when

697
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: I was a little kid. I'd be like, yeah, why

698
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: is there a lock on the door at seven eleven?

699
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: It's never closed? You know, like that, I'm going like this.

700
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: A lot of his stuff was kind of thought provoking.

701
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: You know, why is this? Why is this called this?

702
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: And this is called this? I mean George.

703
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: Carlin went through a similar phase with his stand up.

704
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: That parked on the driveway and drive on the parkway.

705
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

706
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: That's a Carlon bit, right, That's what I I couldn't

707
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: remember if that was a Gallagher or.

708
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: I don't know either, but I just I just remember

709
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: that one from what.

710
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: They couldn't have ended up being different, more different, but.

711
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: That could you know, the driveway parkway thing could be

712
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: like a couple of guys that I encountered coming up

713
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: in Michigan who were arguing over whose joke it was

714
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: that they were calling their dick the truth, you know,

715
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 3: you can't handle the truth. And there was a little

716
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: bit of heat backstage. Well they tried to figure out

717
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: whose joke it actually was. When I was thinking, this

718
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: might be one hundred people's joke.

719
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: Guys, right, yea, and none of them are the winner.

720
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: Right on. No one's coming out ahead on this. But

721
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: also I think you both needed to cut it out

722
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: right now.

723
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: I want to do a joke where I'm like, what

724
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 4: is a parkway? I've never heard that phrase before. Do

725
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: you think that I don't know what that is? A

726
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: British freeway?

727
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: Maybe?

728
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: Well I think you know, if you've got, you know,

729
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: a nice bit of park land and the road that

730
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: goes through, it might be a parkway.

731
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: Oh okay, like going to the Sun Road in Glacier Park, it.

732
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: Might be a parkway, although I mean you know it

733
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: will actually sometimes it will have that whatever you call it,

734
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 3: the pk wy on the end there instead of RD

735
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: or st things of this nature.

736
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So it's just like saying boulevard, right.

737
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: It could be a terrace, it could be a road,

738
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: it could be a Yeah, it's just a it's just

739
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: another made up word for something you drive on.

740
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: I love when on my own podcast I learned things

741
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: finally that's been bothering me.

742
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to ruin your bit, dude, but I'm

743
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: trying to help you because some people might, you know,

744
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: find a little breakout.

745
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: I'm not bailing on it. That bit's got legs.

746
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: That.

747
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: Bits got Hello, Yellowstone.

748
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 4: You have a podcast with our buddy Matt McCarthy about wrestling.

749
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: You probably talked about it a lot every time you're

750
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: on a podcast, But I'm I when did you have

751
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: you had a lifetime like childhood life.

752
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: We're into rests since probably nineteen eighty five.

753
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: Are you as freakishly knowledgeable as McCarthy is where he

754
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 4: can take any conversation and somehow weave it into wrestling.

755
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: Well, so here's the thing. There's there there was a

756
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 3: point in history. I don't know if that if that's changed,

757
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: But Matt would say that I've forgotten more wrestling than

758
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 3: he had watched.

759
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: Now.

760
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: I think he's definitely gained on me. And I do

761
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: know more about wrestling than anything else that I that

762
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: I know about. But I think he's a little you know,

763
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: I touched on it before. I'm not I'm obviously openly

764
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: a wrestling fan. I love wrestling, but I don't seek

765
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: to try to jam it in. So I probably have

766
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: the ability, but I I usually try to just you know,

767
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: if someone asks me, I'm happy to do a filibuster,

768
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: but I don't.

769
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: You're saying Matt kind of forces it, Well, I kind

770
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: of shoves it.

771
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: I think he's a little more.

772
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: Willing to, yeah, to just put it in there, which

773
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: is you know, I'm not saying it's a negative, but

774
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 3: for me, I just like I have to be very

775
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: safe and comfortable before I into.

776
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: And it's Tom Sibley. Is he a regular?

777
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: So he what was is when we started, it was

778
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: the three of us and the dynamic thing. Yeah he's gone,

779
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: but the dynamic was at that point that he never

780
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: watched and didn't know anything, so he would be the

781
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: guy who asked the questions and all that. But he

782
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: left a couple of years ago.

783
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: He yeah, podcast changed.

784
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 4: He was the equivalent of actually driving to an airport, right, Yeah,

785
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: things change and you find well, yeah, it's still work.

786
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: He was the vehicle.

787
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: But I think I think he finally realized that, you know,

788
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: he had learned all he wanted to learn about wrestling.

789
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: So he was he didn't want to get too deep.

790
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, because you can't come back.

791
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: No, you can never return. You can never return. It's

792
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 4: the Hotel California of sports.

793
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: And as much as I love wrestling, there is you know,

794
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: plenty of times where I'm watching it going like man,

795
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm really glad no one else is here. I would

796
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: hate to have to explain to anybody like why I

797
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: think this is cool or you know, like there's plenty

798
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: of times when it's bad.

799
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, it's I just keep those things, golf

800
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 4: and skateboarding, they're they're my private loves. I've stopped trying

801
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: to turn people onto that. I will defend skateboarding in

802
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 4: a way you've had to do with wrestling your whole life,

803
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: where I'm like, it's not for kids.

804
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Here, watch this like I'll pull out visual aids.

805
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: I'll really depending on my mood, I have shoved it

806
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: down people's threats before, but I try not to.

807
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: But because they asked, like I said, now it's cool.

808
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, you're not walking up to a conversation

809
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: that's about you know, house siding or something and going like, well,

810
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: you know, as it relates to skateboarding. You're not jamming it,

811
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: but if someone wants to talk shit, you're there to

812
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: take up for the thing that you believe in.

813
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of vinyl siding, you know, for a while

814
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: skateboards made of plywood and they used a composite. Oh

815
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: why is everyone leading know what a slick is?

816
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I do? I just yeah, I might have access to

817
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: a slick right now. Actually, my first.

818
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 3: Real skateboard, you know, because you get you get to

819
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: like the nash or whatever from the toy store, and

820
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: then you finally get to have a real deck in

821
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 3: my first my first real skateboard was a Matt Hensley Mini.

822
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 3: That was a slick.

823
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: Oh see I went for the king size. Okay, I

824
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: went Matt Hensley King size.

825
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: He was.

826
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 4: Matt Hensley was one of the people I had on

827
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 4: my wall. It seems I had like a wall of

828
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: Matt Hensley at a wall of Jason Lee. Jason Lee

829
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: went on to become an actor. The guy in my

830
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 4: name is Earl and Matt Hensley quit skating at his

831
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: peak and became a Billiard's pro like pool player, and

832
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 4: then he was in flogging Mollie's.

833
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: So that's how people might know those guys.

834
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: But I always and now I respect that both those

835
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: guys retired during their peak of being good at something. Yeah,

836
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 4: even though when I was a kid, I'm like, why

837
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: they're so good? Why am I going to keep doing this?

838
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: If those guys are going to choose to quit? Now

839
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: I understand, it seems.

840
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Like Kensley's kind of come back, though I keep seeing

841
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: him now. It seems like he's skating a little bit again.

842
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: The same with Jason Lee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's uh.

843
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: You know, at some point you get tired of being

844
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 4: a rock star and an actor and skateboarding perseveres. Also,

845
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: I never wanted to mention skateboarding on this podcast because

846
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: I assumed Karen wasn't into it, and then one day

847
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: I found out that she was a closet admirer of skateboarder.

848
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: I think she has like a childlike crush on a

849
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: bunch of pro skaters. And then so all of a

850
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: sudden we were starting to talk about skateboarding. It's such

851
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 4: a There are entire episodes where we've talked about skateboarding

852
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: and the whole time I've known her a decade, and

853
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 4: I'm like, I can't believe, you know, who Milton Martinez

854
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: is like, that's how it started. She's like, I like

855
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: this guy, Milton Martinez. I'm like, that is a current

856
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: Wait what are you you're paying attention now? It wasn't

857
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: like Tony Hawk or whatever. You know, she didn't bring

858
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: up some but yeah, with wrestling, do you stay current

859
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: on current wrestling or are you more nostalgic for eighties everything?

860
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: All of it. I will dip. I will dip in

861
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: and out, like like right now, ww, it's probably the

862
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: least I've watched it in the last because it's just

863
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: gotten It's just gotten real bad.

864
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: But that's how wrecks that, theatrics of it.

865
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: I think it's just the way wrestling works, right is

866
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: you have to have you know, people that you can

867
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: invest in, you like, and then there's a good story

868
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: and you want to see the conclusion, which is always

869
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: you know, them having.

870
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: A far I guess.

871
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: And I think that Vince McMahon, who even though they

872
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: have writers and everything, he's he is the most hands

873
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: on with every element. He's he's an old man and

874
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: he just has lost the plot a little bit, and

875
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: so now he's more concerned about like this pay per

876
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: view a weekend or two ago, they had zombies around

877
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: the ring. So at that point, I'm just like, this

878
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: is you know, like these are two different things. Like

879
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 3: if I want to watch zombies, I don't. I don't

880
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: need to see that here.

881
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: But it's like so Vince McMahon showed up one day

882
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 4: and said, my grandson like zombies, and then he went

883
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: to how I like the Lorne Michaels or something like that.

884
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: Those two are very similar. I've heard many times that

885
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: that they have very similar personalities and and so yeah,

886
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: so I think that I don't prefer that right now.

887
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: But there's wrestling in Japan that I'm really into right now,

888
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 3: wrestling in Mexico. There's a second second company that runs

889
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: on TNT. Anyway, So yes, I'm watching current product. I

890
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: always like to watch the old ship. I watch it all.

891
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 4: There was a time that Jordan Morris and I when

892
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 4: we worked at Fuel TV, that that network that brought

893
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 4: me to Vegas and stuff, we sat in for the

894
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: Luca Leebre wrestling Lucha vavoum, which, uh, yeah, what what

895
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: kind of wrestling?

896
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 3: And is that again that that's yeah, it's it's those

897
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: are it's Luca.

898
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: It's Luca.

899
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: That's yeah, it's it's Mexican wrestling, Luca Luca doors.

900
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: And for a segment they had me, I was like, yeah,

901
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 4: I'll let these guys throw me around.

902
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: I thought that was a good idea. Uh.

903
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 4: And they did not hold back. Mostly it was slapping.

904
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, go ahead and slap me and leave hand marks.

905
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: But then they started body slamming me. And if you

906
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: aren't used to being thrown against ropes and then being clotheslined, uh,

907
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: and you don't know.

908
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: How to fall.

909
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: I mean you can learn this from watching David Arquette

910
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 4: or his Weird Ass documentary.

911
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: I was I.

912
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: I was looking into getting a neck brace, like when

913
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: it didn't go away for a week, I had bruises.

914
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: I was really messed up, like they beat me up.

915
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: That was fair a separate thing, that was.

916
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 4: But then Jordan and I commentated. Guests commentated with I

917
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: think Tom Kinney and Dana Gould, who know how to

918
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 4: talk about literally very wrestling without saying anything disparaging, whereas

919
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, that guy's dressed like a chicken.

920
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 4: Let me yeah, let me make chicken jokes. And I

921
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: offended the audience by making light of the characters that

922
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 4: they were rooting for. I didn't know the storylines. Yeah,

923
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I was just trying to be funny.

924
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, if i'm funny, I'll do well with this.

925
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 4: Because I did watch it later, I'm like, wait, that

926
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: was funny. Why are they throwing things? I did not

927
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 4: know what I was getting myself into. It was overwhelming.

928
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: It was so fun to go to that. But the

929
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 4: whole crowd interaction and the whole hot rods pulling up,

930
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: like all the it's like a classic car show, costume show,

931
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 4: and and the effects, yeah, the burlesque and just the

932
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 4: general like the presentation of it. The value is I

933
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: was blown away by it. And but I know there's

934
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 4: also like these underground wrestling things where you can drive

935
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: out to Pacoima or whatever.

936
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: Well, Recida wasn't a.

937
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: Big one for a long time. Recita was Like there's

938
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: a point when I was going to recieda once a

939
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: month where I thought it was the highest point of

940
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: the art form. Like watching everything in the world at

941
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: that time, I was like, the best ship that's going

942
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: on right now is in Resita. And it was the

943
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: people they had, But also that room, this like American

944
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: Legion Hall. It felt like a hardcore show. It was

945
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: like hot, it was tight, it was it was incredible,

946
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: and slowly you start to see, you know, Joe Manganello's there,

947
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: and then like it became a thing where it was

948
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: like a hot enough ticket where people who I don't

949
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: even think give a shit about wrestling, like what's that guy?

950
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: Uh that when you start to see actors and shit anyway,

951
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: just like ye show up?

952
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

953
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 4: But well, Ron funcches was when he moved to LA

954
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: from Portland. He was the one like everyone needs to

955
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: go to these shows so fun and I never made

956
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 4: it happen. I think even back then I was scared

957
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: to leave the house pre pre uh virus, but I

958
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: I should have gone for some reason.

959
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong.

960
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: It was like there's more like diving off ladders onto

961
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: tacks and getting hit by light bulbs and stuff.

962
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: Is that element?

963
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: Not that one? So you mentioned the arquette thing like

964
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 3: in that documentary you'll see me because during that match

965
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: where he gets stabbed with a light tube, I was

966
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: me and Matt and a couple other guys were right

967
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: in the front row on the stage like we could

968
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: grab the rope, but I had been to enough shows

969
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: where they use light tubes that I fucking I bailed

970
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: out because as soon as the two breaks, like, I

971
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: don't want to breathe that shit in.

972
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: Blow it's like glass powder.

973
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: So so there are some promotions that are like that

974
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 3: that run here, but the one that was in receipt

975
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: it it was just more of an athletic style. So

976
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: there would be a lot of dives and stuff, but

977
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 3: not so much like people getting stuff broken over their

978
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: head or or like that kind of stuff, but just

979
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: super action packed and just you know, I think someone

980
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 3: who's only watched wrestling a little bit or hasn't watched

981
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: it since the eighties would immediately see moves that you

982
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: were like, like, if you watch the skateboard video now

983
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: as compared to whenever, you'd be like, oh shit, like

984
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: I didn't even know this was possible now, you.

985
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: Know, right right right? Yeah, Yeah, it's hard not to commit.

986
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: I compare everything to skateboarding, Yeah, but I didn't.

987
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. It always makes me.

988
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: I think of the movie The Wrestler, which I thought

989
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: was really well done, and I couldn't help but to

990
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: compare that with being an aging road, especially when they're

991
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: all in a room with catheters selling their merch. I

992
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: was like, oh God, maybe I should get a writing job.

993
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know Fuel TV.

994
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: Oddly enough, there was a movie that I saw on

995
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: there at some point when that channel existed called Little

996
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: Foss and Big Halsey And it's a a Robert Redford movie.

997
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: But it must be a movie that him or someone

998
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: else has wanted to not have exist, right because I

999
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: saw it and I was like, holy shit, it's like

1000
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: it's like him and the guy from like if it's

1001
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: Harold and Maud or one of those, and they're like

1002
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: they're motorcycle racers like in the seventies, and it's a

1003
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: crazy movie. And then I eventually found a like bootleg

1004
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: copy at Midtown Comics in New York or something, but

1005
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: you can't at least I haven't looked in a while,

1006
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: but it was like it'lled Little Foss and Big Halsey

1007
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: and like it's got fucking Johnny Cash does the soundtrack.

1008
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 3: Like everything is in place, but for some reason, it

1009
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: just it's not on DVD, Like it just doesn't it's

1010
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: not around anywhere.

1011
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Wow, did you watch it?

1012
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: And maybe there's some off colored jokes in it or

1013
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: something that they're like, oh, I can't play.

1014
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 3: It was like, I mean, there was a little bit

1015
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: of like so it's him and Redford's definitely a womanizer.

1016
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: And it's not a very good movie. It's like a

1017
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: it's like a buddy movie where they race motorcycles. But

1018
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 3: there wasn't any in my recollection. I haven't seen it

1019
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: in a while. You know, I don't want to, you know,

1020
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 3: but but I don't recall anything overtly like like what

1021
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: the fuck in there? You know?

1022
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: So you're defending this movie no matter what you find.

1023
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: I definitely I'm on board for all of it.

1024
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want because I've always kind of been fascinated

1025
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 4: with Evil Canevel, just because he's a stuntman and I

1026
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 4: kind of respect that. But he's from Butte, Montana, so

1027
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 4: I grew up knowing that he was from the town

1028
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: near us near Missoula. But I found in Walmart a

1029
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: ninety nine cent DVD starring George Hamilton the Story of

1030
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: Evil Canevel, and so I bought all of them. I'm like,

1031
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: because it had a ridiculous look and cover, but it

1032
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 4: was actually a pretty good movie and it was shot

1033
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: actually in Butte, and there was really specific jokes about

1034
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: the mining sinkholes there and and I don't know if

1035
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: it was a storyline they made up for the movie,

1036
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 4: but he was like a Robinhood guy that was robbing

1037
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 4: banks and giving it to poor people in Butte. I

1038
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 4: don't know if there's any truth to that. But as

1039
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 4: you watch it, I realized, Oh, the reason no one

1040
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: has seen this is they make light of sexual assault,

1041
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 4: like there the rape word is in that as a joke.

1042
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: So many times that I was like, oh, that's why

1043
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 4: this is not available anyway. It's it is riddled with

1044
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 4: things that you shouldn't and can't say.

1045
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: Hey, what about love at First Bite? You know that

1046
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 3: George Hamilton movie.

1047
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Wait a minute, is that the

1048
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 4: one with Jim Carrey. There's another there's a no that's

1049
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: once Bitten. Yeah, there's a Jim Carre vampire movie.

1050
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, love it first bye. George Hamilton's the most tan

1051
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: vampire in the history of vampires.

1052
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, you've been dead three hundred years. You're

1053
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: not supposed to You're supposed to be pale.

1054
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: Especially when you know, when you hit the sack kind

1055
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: of early, you know, and you stay there.

1056
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: It's uh, yeah, I'm.

1057
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: Not supposed to be getting them, but you know it

1058
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: doesn't mean to say that you can't use self tanner

1059
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: or whatever.

1060
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, they they Every vampire has their own fashioned choices.

1061
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: Maybe it was hanging upside down for a long time

1062
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: all the blood went to his face.

1063
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 3: Also a fair point.

1064
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, George Hamilton is someone that has been

1065
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 4: I've known who that was since I was a little kid,

1066
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: and until you mentioned that vampire movie and I said,

1067
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 4: I don't remember why I knew who he was.

1068
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: He was just on everything in the In the Evil

1069
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: can Eevil, do they showcase his like crystal cane that

1070
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: you would keep wild turkey in?

1071
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: Yes, yea, there is specific That's why I that's what

1072
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 4: I liked about the movie is the specifics in it

1073
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: actually taught me about Evil Knevil like he was.

1074
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: He accidentally got into jumping.

1075
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 4: Over cars on a motorcycle when a rodeo wasn't doing well.

1076
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 4: According to this movie, yeah, they're like, well, I know

1077
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 4: how to get more attendance at your rodeo. I'm going

1078
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: to jump this motorcycle over a car and people that

1079
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 4: went really well, you should do more cars like it

1080
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: just became. But he was a very unlikable character in it.

1081
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1082
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 3: But the early days of thrill seeking.

1083
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you had to find it where you could

1084
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 4: the thrills, and sometimes it was out of rodeo.

1085
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: Chad Pastrana would not have had anything to do in

1086
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: those days. They were still trying to figure out what,

1087
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: you know, how to dive off of shit and jump

1088
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: on things. So evil was on the forefront.

1089
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that Travis Pastran It's maybe the Musha channel.

1090
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: Sorry, No, he's a real Chad though.

1091
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: I mean when you look at his face, he's a chant.

1092
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1093
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Travis is more like, uh, you know, he travels

1094
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 4: at least, but yeah, yeah, he he is the most.

1095
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: He's the Tony Hawk of that motocross.

1096
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 4: Like he can be on a talk show and answer

1097
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: questions and be charismatic, but he is a lunatic.

1098
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

1099
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 4: One time Jordan, the guy worked with, they did like

1100
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 4: a thumb wrestling thing as a gimmick. We always had

1101
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: to and for no reason at all, and I still

1102
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 4: don't understand it. Uh, during the I declare a thumb

1103
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 4: wre right at the he just punched.

1104
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: Jordan in the nose.

1105
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 4: What and Jordan didn't miss a beat and turned the

1106
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: camera and did the outro for the segment as blood

1107
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 4: came down to each nostril. And I think we aired

1108
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 4: it and it probably scared a lot of parents. But

1109
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: pro after that, I was like, Oh, this guy's he's

1110
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 4: just a thrill sneaker. He was trying to seek thrills

1111
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 4: by punching.

1112
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: He's like, listen, man, I was just trying to get

1113
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 3: your adrenaline up.

1114
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1115
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 4: I'm I'm an adrenaline junkie, even when it's someone else.

1116
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1117
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: The guy after that, he made me nervous all the time,

1118
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 4: and I always had to be in the same room

1119
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 4: as that guy.

1120
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: Well yeah, because you're going like, at what point will

1121
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 3: he decide it's time to punch me for fun?

1122
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: Gag? Yeah.

1123
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: One time in Vegas, I went as a magician, kind

1124
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 4: of a Sigfried and Roy magician, and interviewed these guys

1125
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 4: because they had the Nitro Circus was in Vegas, and

1126
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 4: they all of them wanted to fight me.

1127
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: They didn't know who I really was.

1128
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: I was really in character, and I was like, you

1129
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 4: guys know that I'm doing a thing right now. I

1130
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 4: would bail on it and like, turn off the cameras. Hey,

1131
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: this is how I really talk. I respect motocross, I skateboard,

1132
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: and you can stop flexing your jowls and your fists

1133
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 4: while you talk to me, because I'm picking up on

1134
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 4: how angry you're getting. And then they'd snap out of it.

1135
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, back to the magician character like.

1136
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: And then slowly they get wound back up and you'd

1137
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: have to remind him again.

1138
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, remember what I said when we turned

1139
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: the cameras off.

1140
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of memory of the previous

1141
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: I've hit my head a lot.

1142
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about the hold in the Roman Candle.

1143
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 4: One of those Metal Militia guys boxed Dave Mirra BMX

1144
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 4: guy that sadly passed away, but they both trained and

1145
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 4: there was a boxing match, and I think Mike Tyson

1146
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: trained them. It actually ended up being an amazing boxing match.

1147
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 4: Two guys that a year prior to that had no

1148
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 4: knowledge of boxing, and they got really good.

1149
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I interviewed the uh.

1150
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 4: I can't remember the Metal Malaysia guy's name, but yeah,

1151
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: at the end of it, he punched me in the stomach,

1152
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: like they just I just remembered I got punched by

1153
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 4: those Motorcross guys like to punch you during interviews.

1154
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: Man, it's everyone has a different you know, love language

1155
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: or whatever. But it just seems a little weird that

1156
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: the these adrenaline junkies have to physically assault people their

1157
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: love language.

1158
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: That was just how they were letting me know they

1159
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 4: were somewhat attracted to me.

1160
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: Yes, it reverts back to the earliest days on the

1161
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: playground at Recess.

1162
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 4: It was like when the girl that I like used

1163
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 4: to steal my hat and I thought she's being mean.

1164
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: She really just wanted to kiss me, getting me Travis Pastrana,

1165
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 4: you want to kiss me on the.

1166
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: Mouth, didn't you?

1167
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: He needs to come clean.

1168
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 4: Other than golfing during this thing, What have you been

1169
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 4: getting into hobbies?

1170
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: No, let's see, man, you know, recording the old podcast,

1171
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: I think I've told you. You know, I spent about

1172
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 3: the first six or eight months, you know, making sure

1173
00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: I drank about.

1174
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: Fifteen beers every night.

1175
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I realized that that wasn't going to

1176
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: be a sustainable hobby for me.

1177
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: Well, Georgia, did she stop? She like decide not?

1178
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: She has? Yeah, she's not doing it right. Now, so

1179
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: I'm sort of make me yeah, in solidarity at home.

1180
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm not I do obviously when I when I call

1181
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: for if I'm out of the house, you know, which

1182
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: has been good anyway. But yeah, so I was definitely

1183
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: because you know, I think early days pandemics like I

1184
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 3: don't really know what's going on and just stuck at home.

1185
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: So it's five o'clock, let's just do it, you know.

1186
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of people were doing that.

1187
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 4: It was so similar to my normal life where I'm

1188
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: just waiting for shows at night that I was right away,

1189
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 4: and I was scared. I was scared about I'm like,

1190
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 4: do I need to outfit my car for traveling across

1191
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: the country. Do I need to buy gas canisters? I'm

1192
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 4: going to work out. I bought all this gym equipment,

1193
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: rubber bands and stuff, and I was watching videos and

1194
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not going to drink.

1195
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm just but I was alone. I was like kind

1196
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: of going.

1197
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 4: I didn't have a voice of reason with like, hey,

1198
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: it's going to be okay, you can have a sip

1199
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: of wine. Let's just I thought it would unre you know,

1200
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 4: I'd go off in some weird directions. So I was

1201
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: doing such a good job in the beginning, and it

1202
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 4: wasn't until I start to see everything getting back to

1203
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 4: normal and others thriving and getting back to working that

1204
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, I'm going to start drinking again.

1205
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to create my own obstacle.

1206
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1207
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but everyone else has sorted it out.

1208
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 3: Now it's my turn to.

1209
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, if other people are doing something, I don't like

1210
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: it anymore.

1211
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: Kind of like Red Hot Chili Peppers.

1212
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: I really liked that band, and then once they had

1213
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 4: a song on the radio, I'm like, boy, they suck.

1214
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 4: That's a bad example, because they do indeed suck now,

1215
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean.

1216
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: The other weird thing is, so I I've kind of

1217
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: always been into trading car cards, baseball, basketball, hockey, stuff

1218
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: like that, and I don't know if it's the pandemic

1219
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 3: or what happened. It definitely happened during the pandemic where

1220
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: they just have gone insane in popularity, where like on

1221
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: a national level, like Target doesn't sell them in the

1222
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: store anymore, Walmart doesn't because people were being crazy. But

1223
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: like as part of that, like a box of cards

1224
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: that cost let's say, fifty dollars in twenty nineteen now

1225
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: cost one hundred and fifty or something like.

1226
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: Everything has just gone insane.

1227
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: And I don't know. I don't know if people were

1228
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: home and then I was reading articles like, well, the

1229
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: card values are outpacing the like stock market, so people

1230
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 3: are investing in cards rather than that. I don't know,

1231
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: but it's.

1232
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that is classically a hobby. I think

1233
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 4: older folks are probably getting back into stamps. I and

1234
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was keeping it to myself

1235
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 4: a little bit, but I got into miniatures and found

1236
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 4: out a lot of people like Sarah Shaefer made a miniature.

1237
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: I saw that comedy.

1238
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, so like it is, it is professional level.

1239
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 4: I still if you if you don't know Sarah Shaeffer,

1240
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: she her and Nicki Glazer at a podcast together.

1241
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: She's a great comic.

1242
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 4: But on the side, I think she just got into

1243
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: it in the past year like I did. But she

1244
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: made a working a comedy club with like a little

1245
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: menu like Henry little detail. But but yeah, but from scratch,

1246
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: like I think she built the walls out of masonite

1247
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 4: and measure and built. I used a kit and then

1248
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 4: modified my little kit, but she started from scratch and

1249
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: it's go to her instagram if you are interested. And

1250
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 4: a lot of people are interested in it. I found

1251
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 4: because I think I was talking about it a little

1252
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 4: bit before.

1253
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: I was into it. Before the pandemic.

1254
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 4: I just wasn't actively making stuff, but people were always

1255
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 4: bringing me tiny little things.

1256
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: Here's a little coke bottle. Here's so.

1257
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 4: I have accumulated many miniature accessories.

1258
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 3: But so do you paint them or what's the.

1259
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 4: No, it's not like the figures or because I'm into

1260
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: that too. And I when I was a kid, I

1261
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 4: was into train sets. I wanted a train set like

1262
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 4: in Arthur where his train set is his alarm and

1263
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: he wakes up to it. That I always thought was

1264
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 4: so cool, little ice skaters and stuff. Yeah, now I

1265
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 4: think this is more like I'm into backgrounds of animation

1266
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 4: like Wallace and Grommet, like t you know, one twelfth

1267
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: size brick walls and stuff like that. Like I'm just

1268
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 4: into it. I always have been, even when I was

1269
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 4: a kid. I want my dad and I to I'm like,

1270
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 4: I want to make this a dollhouse, I think, And

1271
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 4: he's like, what about a wild West facade like a mercantile,

1272
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: and like, I think he was scared that I wanted

1273
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 4: to play with dolls.

1274
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: But I've stressed this before.

1275
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 4: I'm not into the dolls. I just like where they live,

1276
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: and I like tiny furniture.

1277
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 3: What a shame that you have to even qualify that.

1278
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't anymore.

1279
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: I like dollhouses, and if someone gave me some dolls,

1280
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 4: I would maybe position them in the little rooms that

1281
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 4: I've built and probably enjoyed that.

1282
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 3: Maybe get a little sewing machine and make some clothes.

1283
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: The best part would be outfitting them. Are you kidding me?

1284
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1285
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

1286
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: I have a buddy who makes who will occasionally make

1287
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: like paper dolls, which is all really really cool to me,

1288
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: just like the ability to sort of do that shit.

1289
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 4: But you know, I was thinking maybe that because I

1290
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 4: was gonna make a little clamation old guy in my

1291
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 4: library here, like grabbing a book, just try and learn animation.

1292
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 4: But I was thinking pieces of paper would maybe be

1293
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 4: easy to manipulate, and so maybe.

1294
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: I should do paper dolls. Yeah, it would be kind

1295
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: of cool. M M. Yeah.

1296
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 4: I got to get into it. I keep putting it off.

1297
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 4: I keep going outside and getting sun it's getting in

1298
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 4: the way of my indoor time.

1299
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need to spend a little more

1300
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 3: time in there getting a queen.

1301
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm are you. We might be golfing tomorrow together, right,

1302
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: are you golfing tomorrow?

1303
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 3: Golfing tomorrow? Just the not both, but but the early

1304
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: I'll be there.

1305
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I'm just doing the early.

1306
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 3: Early the next three days.

1307
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 4: Well, I'll see you soon. Awesome, And it might as

1308
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 4: well wrap up here. Yeah, we've done long enough. But yeah,

1309
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 4: I'm glad that I've gotten to know you this year.

1310
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, it's been awesome and I appreciate you having

1311
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 3: me on here as well. But very cool finding out

1312
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 3: who Chris Fairbanks is after all this time.

1313
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah good good finding out about the mysterious Vince cool Man. Yeah,

1314
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: thanks for being on. You've been listening to Do you

1315
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: need a ride? D y n Ar?

1316
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 4: That's I've always done that, Vince the kind of outro

1317
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: cool Man usually at the end, I homed Hong Kong.

1318
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't do the Hong Kong. Are you leaving?

1319
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: I you wanna way back home?

1320
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 3: Either way, we want.

1321
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: To be there, doesn't matter how much baggage you claim

1322
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: and give us time and a Turmano and gay. We

1323
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: want to send you off InStyle. You want to welcome

1324
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: you back home. Tell us all about it.

1325
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine?

1326
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: Malcorn?

1327
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

1328
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

1329
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride?

1330
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?

1331
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need with Karen

1332
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: and Cress

1333
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 3: M hm